October 10, 2010

Tonight on Larry King Live!

Posted: 12:00 PM ET

Hilary Swank & Sam Rockwell!

How far would you go to free

your innocent brother from prison?

Hilary Swank and Sam Rockwell on

the incredible real-life drama

that inspired the movie ‘Conviction’.

The all-star cast sits down with Larry!

Do YOU know anyone who has served time in jail?

Filed under: Entertainment • Justice

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paul   October 6th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

yes,police and district attorneys in america are crooks,out to make a name for a former police officer,and know men who were framed for crimes they din't commit.

witchhunt   October 6th, 2010 9:13 pm ET

David Leonard Wood of El Paso has been cleared by DNA evidence for the serial killings in El Paso, Texas.. No DNA, fingerprints, or physical evidence linked him to the crime and women continue to disappear and be murdered on the borderland. Wood can still be executed. Don't let an innocent man die

Save David Leonard Wood

Steve Crawford   October 6th, 2010 9:20 pm ET

I have spent a total of five years in the Missouri Dept of Corrections for DWI. The Last two years were spent in a Long term drug treatment program run by two different organizations along with the MODOC. It was a one year program but due to my prior convictions, I was required to serve at least two years. The ironic thing about the way Missouri laws are set up is that I was assigned to a room with a man who had 27 different drug and theft felonies who only had to do one year. I learned a lot while I was there. The most was not from these three organizations, KCCC (Kansas City Community Center), Gateway Foundation, or the Missouri Dept. of Corrections. The best information I received was from the other inmates in meetings. It was not the fault of these three organizations but the fact that they do not get the funding to do the job so it is run by the lowest bidder. Missouri Dept. of Corrections is full of very uneducated people. In order for an inmate to be considered for parole, they must have a high school diploma, a GED, or be actively enrolled in GED class. In order to be employed by the Dept. of Corrections, you have to know someone there or be related to someone in the DOC. Paul Harvey once said that if you want to see the most corrupt people in society, just go to any Missouri prison at shift change.
I grew up in the seventies with parents who where drug dealers. My grandparents on my fathers side were a prostitute and her pimp. My grandfather died in an Arkansas state prison and my father only met him three times. My parents were meth addicts until they were in their late fifties. I became an alcoholic. I suffered what I can only describe as a terroristic childhood. Never knowing when things were going to go from calm to hell. My children never had to suffer that kind of fear. They never had to witness their mother being beat unconscious. I still have nightmares from my childhood and I have only just recently started to address these issues. The only psychologist I have seen said I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. I know I was self medicating with alcohol and until recently was not ready to face these issues.

Ana   October 6th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Leonard Peltier, an American Indian activist, was imprisoned and convicted of double murder for two consecutive life terms - with little/no evidence that he was the murderer. If you were to look into his case, you'd see that his it's sort of a federal conspiracy as well. He's been imprisoned for 33 years now.

Kevin   October 6th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

Yes. Our friend, Bernard P. Hatch (DIN 75C0200)
, has been imprisoned in NY State for 37 years; having been convicted in a circumstantial case with all of the faulty forensics, jailhouse snitch testimony and compromised representation that Mr. Sheck just highlighted as promblematic on tonights show.
Mr. Hatch has from the beginning, to this day has faithfully proclaimed his innocence. Mr. Hatch has also experienced the "spiritual transformation" that Mr. Scheck so beautifully characterized as what helps those who are wrongfully convicted survive.

Lynn   October 6th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

My son is currently incarcerated for a crime he did not commit. He is convicted because he had an ACCIDENT. He had an appointed attorney that had no clue about the law. Evidence has come up missing, one fracture became two concave fractures. A six hour interrogation with no food, drink, cigs for over 2 days (because he was in the hospital with the victim – after the mother would not take him – the day before and went to bed at 4am. This gave him no sleep as well) Was he a reasonable person, probably not. They took pictures of his unmarred hands and the "scene". All which have come up missing. No one will allow us to see any of the transcripts or any of the "evidence". Our attorney lied to us and the DA (of course) lied. The judge belittled us because we were from the North.

That same year – a lady with the eerily similar circumstances – who ran a daycare and sent home two children with blood coming from the ears. The parent took the children to the hospital – the day care was not there....and the lady who ran the day care got 2 years suspended – ONE county away.


I know I do not know the circumstances surrounding her incident but my son was a Marine and did NOT have any prior convictions. Not sure where the justice is.

We want to make sure that the public understands that IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU! Be educated!

pbsd2010   October 6th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

@ Steve Crawford

This is an area where Education fails. The best scenario would have been hiring professionals and also individuals who were arrested, participated and graduated a drug treatment program and has been sober for a number of years. It provides hope plus grounded information that often only those who experienced the situation could provide.

Excellent program Larry. I will miss you!

Jonney Harvie   October 6th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

A family member who recieved life with out parole, and died at age of 30 while spending most of his prison time in solitary confinement, he was severly mentally ill...

Steve Crawford   October 6th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

The justice system only works for people who can afford it. Too many times people who have the means, manage to keep committing crimes while the people who are of lower means don't have someone to fight for them. In most smaller counties, if you manage to bail yourself out, you don't qualify for a public defender. So if your arrested you have to either stay in jail and lose your job, residence, possibly everything you own because you are not there to pay the bills, or you spend the 10% of whatever your bond is and then can't afford the 1500 to 25,000 for an attorney to prove your innocent. I have actually seen a man get convicted of possession of a drug that they could not prove was a drug but he did not have the money to fight for his innocence so he accepted a plea for probation so he could get out of jail and go on with his life. There was not enough of the substance to be tested but they still charged him. The judge should have thrown it out but it never go to arraignment and the Public Defender was so overworked she never even tried to prove he was innocent. Public defenders are nothing more than traffic cops in these poor counties.

Alice Gianakos   October 6th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

My son's been in prison for 11 years. Without a doubt, there was 6 of us that knew where he was. We know for a fact that my son is innocent for kidnapping resulting in death. We live in a smaller area, and we know who did it. His wife did it. How do we get help? We have no money. How do we find someone to help us to prove that he's innocent? Just by reading the trial transcripts knows that Michael didn't do it. Prosecuters all advantaged in their careers from this case. Would appreaciate some help. Thank you very much.

Alice Gianakos

Mona Baghdadi   October 6th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

Thank you for your extensive converge of this immoral, uncivilized practice here in the United States. I could not help but notice the disparity in the race of the men released. There was an overwhelming number of innocent men who were African American, a issue not discussed in your program and I have to ask why?

Steve Crawford   October 6th, 2010 10:26 pm ET

@pbsd2010 You are very correct sir. Unfortunately, these organizations don't pay enough to get quality professionals. With the MODOC employees, the best thing about working there is the benefits package. They are lucky if their pay puts them above the poverty level. There are quality people who work for MODOC, but I think it is safe to say that a good portion could not get jobs anywhere else. While I was at the Long term drug treatment camp, I witnessed three correctional officers charged with crimes. Two were sex offenses and one was a theft I believe. One was charged with 7 counts of forcible rape and one with sexual misconduct. The one charged with forcible rape pulled me and others off the yard to strip search us (normal procedure), but he always started with me and made me stand naked while he searched the others and then he would release me to get dressed. I could not complain about this because of the fear of reprisals from his fellow officers. They would have gotten me kicked out of the program which would have caused me to do up to 7 years instead of the 2 that I ended up doing. The day this correctional officer was charged, I was sitting on some bleachers waiting to re-enter the camp after working a ten hour day for the department of transportation cleaning up the sides of the highway. While on the bleachers, all the inmates were talking about this correctional officer. The Major, who is the head C.O. of the camp, walked up behind me and then took me to the hole because he wanted to make an example of someone so people would stop talking about it. I did not get in trouble but they just wanted to scare me. As it turns out, this rapiest was a favorite of all the C. O.s at the camp.

There was one drug counselor who had graduated from the same program many years prior. He was a very good counselor who disagreed with the way the program was run. He could not change it though because the staff did not even take him seriously. He was never accepted because he used to be a convict. There was one captain whom I would frequently discuss politics with. He was the only one I would talk politics with. He was capable of agreeing to disagree with. The majority looked at us as lower than whale crap. If you disagreed with them, they would find ways to write you up. The whole system is set up as a old boys club and if you were not a neo conservative, then you were not accepted into that club.

Vicky   October 6th, 2010 10:30 pm ET

I have served time in jail and it's because America has a faulty legal system.

Diane Seltzer   October 6th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Paul Cortez has been in prison for almost 5 years being punished for a crime that he emphatically denies he committed. Justice ,although not meant to be, is exclusionary and arbitrary in our society and comes with a very hefty price. Paul Cortez could not afford the fee and DID NOT have a fair chance to prove his innocence. Please do not think this cannot happen to you. Get involved and fight wrongful convictions while it is still in principle rather than about someone you love. The only way that this can continue to happen is if all fair minded people turn their heads. Remember..."An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere".

Truth   October 7th, 2010 12:28 am ET


Pam   October 7th, 2010 12:53 am ET

I have an adopted son serving a life sentence for rape, which I have always felt was a terribly wrong conviction and to which Steve claims innocence. Recently we received DNA results which show him to "not be a contributor" and should prove his innocence but I no longer know who to trust with this evidence or how to proceed on his behalf ????

Toni Jackson   October 7th, 2010 12:58 am ET

Not surprised to see that most of the men shown on this show was Black since Black men have been wrongly accused since slavery! Every last one of them should sue the Governments ass!!!!!!! This is very sad that the system has and continues to fail our Black men in America this has to stop!!!!!Stop this racism.

Tall   October 7th, 2010 1:03 am ET

Hopefully this movie will help society to look at situations much closer and not so quick to judge. This is really sad that these mens life's have been ruined and that they can never obtained those years lost. Very sad!!!!

Families Victimized   October 7th, 2010 1:04 am ET

Look how the families of inmates suffer (mentally and financially) when they're loved ones are 'OVERHARSHLY SENTENCED'....see 'MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCING GUIDELINES'...we have a family member that was given essentially the same sentence as Brian Nichols....LIFE/!...BUT our family member NEVER killed anyone or committed treason..neither did our family member kidnap, molest or rape anyone...he is charged with he gets the 'Death Penalty' ???? The Federal Judge has no
Decisions...the Jury has NO idea how much time the defendant will serve!
Our legal system is turning into a Dog and Pony Show....only they're using real Human Beings....I think there are some courageous Lawyers and Judges; but they're not speaking out...they have too much to lose (loose!)

Tall   October 7th, 2010 1:07 am ET

I would never want to be a Juror not really knowing if someone is guilty or not . I could not live with myself if I had sent someone to prison and find out that he or she was innocent wow!!!!

Conduit   October 7th, 2010 1:26 am ET

My heart aches for this injustice. I wish that the counties that wrongfully in prison these people and the jury that convicts them should pay if they were wrongfully imprisoned. Maybe if someway, the jury that agreed to the sentence, had to personally pay these people back or serve time themselves, for what they sentenced an innocent person for, may make the justice ruling less easy to convict. I also had an idea for those who are on probation who have an inner drive to stop a particular crime be allowed to serve the community under a supervision to help other people from becoming victims of criminals. Like women brutalized by their partners, let strong willed women who have a drug conviction who have gone through their sentence and are on parole do their community service to make a difference. Have a hotline for them to arrive at the callers home to help her if the cops can't get there as quickly. Just a thought of having a "Dog Hunter" of several types in all communities.
Remembering "Hurricane Carter" is proving the system needs a great deal of examining. Also learned that all babies born in Florida have their DNA stored at birth without parents knowledge for life! All people born there should have it looked up.
I pray for all of you that true justice be done.

Free Courtney Bisbee   October 7th, 2010 1:26 am ET

Manifest injustice in Maricopa County, Arizona. It's time to Free Courtney Bisbee and demand an outside independent investigation of the mishandling of the Courtney Bisbee wrongful conviction case in Maricopa County Arizona. She was falsely accused, wrongfully convicted and wrongfully imprisoned for and alleged crime that never happened.

She was falsely accused in Scottsdale, Arizona by one 13 year old on bogus child molest accusation. The Scottsdale detective failed to follow established protocol. He gave false information to the IA Court and the media which created the "rush to judgment" guilty-by-media.

Where was the presumption of innocence? NO search warrant – computer and camcorder taken and never re-appeared; NO arrest warrant; NO Miranda rights; NO investigation of the alleged crime scene; NO medical physical exam for the police report which would have impeached the accuser's false statements; held NON-bondable for 66 days. 2nd Grand jury called and said there was administrative error by the detective, that this was a "he said, she said" case and they made Courtney bondable at $100,000 cash bond, then she was still held illegally for 17 more days in Maricopa County Estrella jail. Why? The lawyer said the jail computer said she was Non-bondable.

It's time to end this cover-up and scam for political and financial gain. It's time to release Courtney, reunite her with her beloved daughter and family.

Barry Scheck offer your services to investigate Maricopa County cases. Former County Attorney Andrew Thomas bragged about his 200,000 convictions (since 2005) during the Republican Primary for his run for State Attorney General.

She convicted January 2006, and sentenced to 11 years flat time. New Evidence-proof of innocent was given to former County Attorney Andrew Thomas, who chose to swept it under the rug, slam the lid on her PCR/Rule 32 so an Evidentiary Hearing would not called to hear the New Evidence, recantations, affidavits, Experts reports, deposition that where a friend of the accuser said nothing happened and they were going to sue the Paradise Valley School district and "get" all her (Courtney's) money. Adults colluding, using children for financial gain should be investigated for a fraudulent scheme. Courtney's case crosses all courts - starts in the Family Court with child support/child custody issues, criminal court, civil court, probate court where the money is dispersed. Insurance companies pay-off the accuser's. How many millions upon millions have been paid to those devious enough to play this sick game?

Michael   October 7th, 2010 2:29 am ET

Great show to help people become aware of what is going on in the legal system. At 58, you can not have a cleaner record then I until Dec. 30 2009. I have been self employed in the home repair business for 8 years. On that date I walked into my customers house unaware that someone in the back room sufered from severe post traumatic stress disorder. I was attacked but would not fight back because I am a passive non-violent person. In a long chain of events by that someone, he became injured in my desperate attemp to flee. I was arrested, I was stripped seached, I was blood tested, I was throw in a holding cell for 6 hours only to be placed in jail for 6 days. At the time I faced life in prison. Life had come to an end as I knew it.

Outcome today? DA admits to over charging and reduced the charges but I am told by my attorney that he will not drop them because he needs to save face. My attorney says that he doesnt know what I am even doing in his office.

Larry I have had many sleepless nights with night sweats over this. It is what nightmares are made of. I have lost so much faith in the justice system where the victim becomes the accused. EVERYONE I tell the story to that knows my personality, just stands there in amazement with there mouth open, speechless.

I believe there is enough justice left in this country for the case to be thrown out where it belongs but it has certainly opened my eyes and feelings towards tonights topic.

Sonya   October 7th, 2010 3:26 am ET

I have a grandson who is in prison wrongly convicted and won't get out until Jan 2012. He had no way out of this charge if he pleaded not guilty he could of gotten 21 years so he made a plea deal with DA for lesser charges which he didn't do.

JWP   October 7th, 2010 3:32 am ET

I'm catching the 2nd run of this program as I type. Until my own husband was accused, I dindn't know so many accused are innocent and still found guilty. My husband was found not guilty by two lower agencies and THEN even the state dept. But here we go again with the Feds. They have a special unit/office that make it a practice to CREATE cases against innocent people! My husband was aquitted due to lack of evidence, credible and uncredible but the Feds, of course appealed it, prolonging their paperwork until they were able to "draw" the 9th dist. judges that would overturn my husband's aquittal. And sure enough, this is what happened. THEN, they illegally pulled my husband's trial judge off in order to have another judge (probably within their choosing, again) sentence him for charges he did NOT commit. An impartial presentencing officer background checked my husband and read the trial then recommended that the judge sentence my husband to 6-12months house arrest with 3yrs probation, but with a last minute ditch effort from Federal prosecution, they brought in unproven acussations of my husband doing drugs, bringing drugs into his workplace and claiming him to be in a Nazi gang! Hello... his wife and extended family are ALL hispanic! Still this judge took all of this in and sentenced my husband, the loving father of our two young children, to 51months in prison with 3yrs probation and mandatory drug testing that we would have to pay for! We are fighting this to the end... NEVER giving up.. JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL.

michael anthony williams   October 7th, 2010 3:42 am ET

At age 16; I was tried convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment at Louisiana State Penitentiary in 1981. 1989 Barry Scheck and the innocence project took my case and DNA was done on the evidence the districts attorneys office thought was destroyed. March 2005 after 24 years I was freed through DNA evidence with a 10 dollar check and no where to live

Ted   October 7th, 2010 10:00 am ET

Is Lady Justice blind?
Looking at those 12 men who were innocent, but jailed, they are all black.
Would they had the same faith if they were white or by black people we have a different system; you must prove that you are innocent.

Sara Brown   October 7th, 2010 10:01 am ET

This is wonderful...if you have an innocent imprisoned, a crack in the door has just opened. The most powerful political positions need to be carefully and thoughtfully filled by voters. Prosecutors need feet held to the fire when they are wrong.
When the non-DNA imprisoned, women, are included in innocence programs, THAT will be truly telling of the broken society in which we are living. Too many prisoners, too few tax payers, too little, but not too late to correct grievous wrongs done in the name of badly written laws.
Thank you for the start of something good.

teri vanderberg   October 7th, 2010 10:15 am ET

My husband has been given a 25 to life sentence without any evidence, just the words "he touched me" This is not an isolated case,its happening across the country and the DA's are richly rewarded for this easy to convict 'Witch hunt". My husband of 30 years was and continues to be an amazing father, and husband. Now i get to "visit "him,maybe once a month. They strip you emotionally, and financially .Our church just had a fundraiser for our family to help our legal defense team. They know an innocent man is in prison. When will the public be passionate about the falsely accused. We fight for gay rights, aids,and animal rights......Why are we not up in arms about this?

Joanne Walsh   October 7th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

Thank you for bring to light wrongful convictions. My husband has been in prison 18 years for defending himself from two attakers high on cocaine. The justice system is very corrupt . This happened to my husband in a small upstate town in New York. He was not from around there. The court covered up the fact that the man who passed away tested positive for cocaine. They accually did 3 tests. Two in New York the third in PA. The third out of state test came back negative. This test was done in secret by the coroner. There was no chain of evidence. There own state tests came back positive. With the freedom of information act I now have all 3 blood tests. People do not believe how corrupt the police and court system is. No one seems to care. They are convicted criminals. My husband is 41 now. He was 24 when he went into prison. He was very beligerant and outraged. He refused a plea bargin because he did not kill someone willfully. He was stalked followed outside a bar and attacked. He defended himself. if he would of not fought back and died himself this hometown boys would of gotten off scott free. There is no justice in America. none ! I'm so happy movies are coming out like this and the movie Felon in 2008 that bring attention to this epidemic. New York state has opened up a task force because the state has so many wrongful convictions. It will not help my husband. The new procedures are for new cases only. I think it's a joke. They had procedures in the past. They dont follow them. No one makes them accountable if they dont. Meanwhile my husband sits in prison 27 years to life. An outrageous sentance because he refused a plea and took it to trail. The lies the prosecution came up with were so out there it's just unbelievable. His legal aid attorney was a joke. They work for the prosecution. If you are poor forget it I always tell people to just take the plea guilty or not take it. The only way you will win is if you have money period. I pray that something will happen and the truth will come out in my husbands case. He does not belong in prison. To read more about my husbands case it is on Facebook under Justice for Donald Walsh.

Catherine Wadley   October 7th, 2010 10:17 pm ET

Larry, saw your show on wronful conviction. My son is in jail now because it was convicted of a sexual assulting a 6 year-old littsle girl without removing her clothes. Because a a crooked judge who would not let the lawyer defend his client and a a crooked DA and investigatorsmy child was convicted withn evidence . He has a Public Defender who is still on the case. The judge has recluse herself from the case and so all of the other Judges. yet he is still in jail awaiting to be sentences.Why he is in jail, I think he is being mistreated : His toothrush has been taken away, they have taken his pen apart so he can only write with the inside portion of the pen, not receiving his mail like he shouldand maybe some other thing are happening to him that
I don't now about, because if retribution from the guards. My son was an Investigator: never been in trouble in his life

William Newmiller   October 8th, 2010 10:10 am ET

Thanks to all who continue to raise the issue of wrongful convictions. We know, from the many cases of exoneration, how these tragic cases go astray. And we now have an idea of how often they happen. Since our son's conviction for a murder he did not commit, our eyes have been opened to this problem. It's something that can happen to anyone, to any family. Perhaps the awareness raised by movies such as this one and the attention these receive will help people see that the implementation of remedies for wrongful convictions–their prevention and remediation–is something that fair-minded people of all ideologies and political can agree upon.

Lexington Vanderberg   October 8th, 2010 11:47 am ET

Teri Vanderberg is talking about my dad.....I haven't seen him since i was 11,now i am 17. He can't have minors visit. We write and he calls me everyday..I need my dad , we need justice .A movie like this is a start. Please continue to expose the "Injustice System", bring my dad home my sister and i need him...Thank You

Steve Golden   October 8th, 2010 12:11 pm ET


I DO know someone who is innocent and is currently serving a LIFE sentence for a crime that he did NOT commit!!


MaryAnn Lubas   October 8th, 2010 1:23 pm ET

Our justice system is horribly broken! When we can convict without evidence, only he said/she said cases and have exculpatory DNA evidence, our justice system is corrupt.

Our son has been wrongfully convicted, refusing a plea of 11-18 months for a crime that never happened and was sentenced 8-16 years!!!! This is with eyewitness testimony! But jurors slept during defense testimony, ate with the victim and family and smoked with them outside of the courtroom and that was deemed as harmless error.

When is SOMEONE going to stand up and say enough is enough!!!! This movie is just the tip of the iceberg. It is estimated that over 700,000 innocent men and women are in prison!!!!! We need to resolve this NOW. Mike DeLoe is an innocent man and we want nothing more that to Free Mike DeLoe!

Connie Molen   October 8th, 2010 7:38 pm ET

I would walk to hell and back to free my husband who was wrongfully convicted three years ago. Unfortunately there was no DNA to help prove his innocence so we have a very long road ahead of us. We ask that Mr. Moore do a documentary on wrongful convictions, show how often they happen and why...then stress how horrific it is trying to fight a corrupt justice system that did whatever they could, whether legal or not, to get their convictions.

Diane Anderson   October 8th, 2010 9:23 pm ET

I have seen all these abuse of authority tricks, blaming the vitim, "losing "evidence, and other legal fiction antics manifest in Idaho cases, over and over, by the thousands, these past 6+ years. Prosecutors not held to rules of evidence, cops arresting people with no charges of what "crime" they were being charged with, judicial reviews, and corrections dept. abuses overlooked in by fellow judges,(and some Legislators), to the detriment of families all across the state and apparently , the entire nation.
It won't get better until we stand firm, with our neighbors, to overturn the power we've entrusted in these officials, that they have abused, ( our criminal justice system was described as in Stage 4 cancer- terminal.) think it is because we have lazily ignored the lack of accountability until it reached out and grabbed us personally.
Unemplyment has been worsened by putting innocent people in jail, causing them to lose their jobs, etc, etc, and once imprisoned can't get a job even in better economic times. It's time to cut the cancer out.
Pray for help from the Chief (Eternal) Surgeon to restore our system of gov't to the hands of righteous and honorable people, who are once again accountable to the People. We have to take on the responsibility- He will help us.

Terri   October 8th, 2010 11:03 pm ET

My son is serving a sentence of three to five years because the attorney he ended up with was incompetent. We hired an attorney and paid $10,000 and he died within a few months of the trial date. We were never informed of his death my son found out from an inmate who read it in the paper. He was determined to bring down the alleged victim because he could see through her story. That is why he chose to go to trial. The charges were on a “He said, she said” case and it is wrong! She wanted Justin out of the picture so she could go back with her ex boyfriend. She did indeed go back with him and within a matter of a ½ hour of the alleged incident they were together. The attorney died and we had no more money so we ended up with an attorney from the firm and he was incompetent. He said maybe two words during the trial, did not put anyone on the stand for the defense, and his closing statement was maybe five minutes. There was no Proof at all, only circumstantial!!! The judge initially said, he did not want to send him to prison but he had to and gave him three to five years. The DA stood up and demanded a longer tail which gave him three to 15 years. We figured it was a longer probation but later found out it his maximum. The attorney said outside the court house that day, no need to worry he’ll be out in two years. Later, after I became frustrated from trying to reach the attorney and never got a call back, I enrolled in college and majoring in criminal justice. I’ve learned so much and how wrong the case was handled. If I knew then what I know now… things would have been entirely different. Of course by the time I learned what we could do and how wrong this case was handled, the one year appeals dealine was over and even though we tried for a post conviction relief, we were denied twice. Out of money and no one would even look at it. There is too much corruption…. There is too much interest in self gain rather than justice! Also… the programs that are required is absurd… you must admit guilt or you will max out on your sentence. That is crazy for those that truly did not do anything. The counselors in the prisons should work with these inmates and help them if they feel they are truly innocent. We have been told over and over again by CO’s and sheriff’s office that my son does not belong there. Please help set my son free… so he can get on with his life. Please tell them to check over these cases that are shouting innocence and leave room in the prisons for those that truly deserve to be there.

Joan Zeledon   October 8th, 2010 11:28 pm ET

How far will I go to free my brother wrongfully convicted? I will fight until justice is served! Not only for him but for all the wrongfully convicted.

I urge everyone to attend and support FREEDOM MARCH, listen to the speakers. Most people are green "how' "why" "well there must have been something for a jury to convict". Let me tell you how the system has failed! My brother was out walking my dog one day and was pointed out, taken in for questioning, then arrested and convicted on NO EVIDENCE. In fact there was evidence that the court supressed that proved my brother was innocent.

I read the comments above regarding people of color. In our case it was reversed (and I am NOT prejudiced). Bronx County New York, a jury made of all black and hispanic, a hostile black judge, a hispanic prosecutor. When the jury was told on a Friday late afternoon if they didn't come to a verdict they would be sequestered over the weekend they came back with a Guilty Verdice in 45 minutes. My brother has been in prison since 1996 and he will sit there till 2021 before he admits, takes "programs" or shows remorse for this crime (Rape 1)

People trust me it can happen to you! Some don't get it until it happens to them or a loved one. If for nothing else, just think of all our tax paying dollars being spent on the wrongfully convicted we are talking millions and millions!

Me? I have faith that "THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL" I just wish it didn't take this long. Oh and we had a paid attorney and appelatte attorney and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on this nightmare.

JUSTICE DENIED! Don't let it be YOU

Linda Cassidy   October 9th, 2010 12:36 am ET

This injustice is beyond my understanding. When will this stop. Please help these Dads, Brothers, Moms, Sisters, Cousins, Friends, all who are stuck in this nightmare. How do they have a voice if the Justice system is so over loaded, Someone or some thing has to be put right.
Someone who cares

Madison   October 9th, 2010 5:18 am ET

I'm so glad to see films that tackle this frequently ignored issue of the falsley accused. This is not an isolated case.

My father has a life sentence for a crime he did not committ. My normal nuclear middle class family was completly blindsided when these false allegations arose. The public needs to be aware that too many men are facing false jail times because of children are being coached what to say and do not realize the weight that their words can carry. Like the film "witchhunt," and the mcmartin case, children are accusing men of crimes they did not do and there is literally no way to prove it. It's one persons word against anothers.

It took years for people to realize there is no stigma surrounding gay rights and the AIDS epidemic, we need America to listen to and champion this cause now. Free the falsely convicted from this injustice system.

Patricia   October 9th, 2010 10:44 am ET

My son is innocent in prison after faulty fire science was used to convict him of arson and murder. No evidence of arson was found through lab testing. and the electrical was not eliminated by the states fire investigator before my son was arrested. The state fire investigator interogated him until he confesed and then eliminated the electrical that he could not previoulsy eliminate. The state fire investigator used faulty science while investigating this fire and did not understand fire growth We are trying to prove it My son had a very unfair trial in which evidence of innocence was not presented to the jury .

Rhonda Schmidt   October 9th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

My fiance (who is also a black man) is going through what these gentlemen have gone through. He was found guilty by an older all white jury panel (not 1 black person from 45 people) for rape and aggrivated burglury to a single white mother in less than 2 hours after 3 long 8 hour days of trial. It was Sept, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Labor day weekend... He is innocent. They arrested him and interogated him for over 2 hours. Telling him that they got his fingerprints and matching DNA and matchng foot prints and of course he kept telling them he didn't do it. Since they couldn't didn't get what they wanted from him they came to our apartment with a search warrant and took me out at 4 am and put in the back of a police car. The police officer read me my rights and told me if I didn't cooperate I would be arrested and taken to jail. I asked what was my fiance being arrested for , he wouldn't tell me, but told me had confessed. He made me write a statement basically stating what they wanted me to say. In court they tried to say they had a fingerprint but couldn't use it and he threw his shoes away and she flick off his DNA from her nails, She said she ID ed him from his accent that he does't have and she use to be our neighbor so she knows what he looks like. My fiance has been in jail for almost 5 months now for something he did not do and I don't want to see the same thing happen to him like these other gentlemen whose lives were ruined.

Karanja   October 10th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

I'm hoping that you address the question of the elephant in the room which is that it is clearly no accident that eleven of the 12 men who had wrongful convictions are black!

Racism is smack bang in the middle of false, wrongful and erroneous convictions, with either crooked cops or prejudiced cops just being too quick to jump to conclusions, cut corners and sometimes just be too willing to lock up black men whose lives our society treats as dispensable! Truly sad.

Please let us stop pretending that racism ended with the civil rights act at worst, or at best upon the election of President Obama as many would like to think.

The case of Shirley Sherrod who was a victim of racism from a black President's administration is clear evidence that we have too far to go still... This was a clear example that all of society including black people who have internalized racism, find it unacceptably acceptable that black people are dispensable in all situations!

Caryn   October 10th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

I find the innocence project noble, however, Barry Scheck is the same guy who defended OJ. The DNA evidence was overwhelming against Simpson, yet Scheck was on a team who sought to get this murderer off. Why is Mr. Scheck such an advocate of the innocent wrongly accused? I would say his feelings of guilt for getting OJ off!

Meg   October 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Yes, and the stories are horrible about what a horrific society it is in the prisons. Regardless of innocense or guilt, the system is so corrupt and cruel that it;s a disgrace to any American. It's a blessing that this cruelty is brought out to the public and OPEN our eyes.

Cathy   October 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Shocking! It makes me sick to think the police and district attorneys are so twisted they would convict these men that were not guilty of anything

Willard   October 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Larry, I am watching your programme where you have just introduced many wrongfully convicted men. I am astonished that the overwhelming majority of these wrongful convictions were perpetrated on black people. Maybe this problem runs deeper than just botched trials?

Yellowroselady   October 10th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

I thought it was interesting when the issue of "innocent until proven guilty" was discussed. The consensus of opinion is just the opposite and that is totally against our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Also, if you noticed 8 of these folks were convicted of a sexual crime which is always the case of "guilty until proven innocent" or the defendant is told if he goes to court to "prove" he/she didn't do it and is told if he goes to court and is convicted they will spend 15 to 30 years in prison. There is no burden of proof from the accuser in many of these cases. There are over 750,000 registered sex offenders in the U.S. and most are for non-contact and non-violent offenses. And as one judge said very put someone on the registry is a death sentence. It costs $23K per year to put a person in prison and there are documented studies that this is not the answer. Also, Google SORNA to see how much your state will be spending to implement Title 1 of the Adam Walsh Act. Even John Walsh said the system is broken......yet the politicians keep throwing money at it.

cole   October 10th, 2010 10:17 pm ET

do they get paid for all that time???/

Miss Betty   October 10th, 2010 10:27 pm ET

Imma go somewhere and report this mess. This is AGAINST my constitutional rights!!!!

Maxie C. Sprott II   October 10th, 2010 10:42 pm ET

It is indeed a sad comment on our so-called justice system that the zeal for prosecution and punishment far exceeds our compassion for truly objective and rational examination of the facts in criminal investigations. In addition to the wrongful convictions, our legal process routinely incarcerates the majority of persons, not for their actual crime, but for probation violations. My stepson is a poster child for the types of ridiculous sentences being handed out on a daily basis here in "the land of the free and the home of the brave." Have Larry and his team take a look at the injustices being perpetrated on the public in the name of "being tough on crime."

cathy stroud caldwell   October 11th, 2010 1:00 am ET

My Son Theron Lee Caldwell serve 5 years in prison and was wrongfully convicted. He was not apologize too nor can he get a job. or finance too go too college. My other son was convicted in 2006 for murder and he is still serving time. He was only convicted because I could not afford a lawyer. so he was represented buy a public pretender. His name is lincoln caldwell and he is serving time in Still Water Prison. Minnesota.
The person who have done the crime admitts and is in prison. But since we could not afford attorney, the public depfender did not have time for my sons case. He had about a hundred more cases too attend too. He was even denied an evidential hearing. because the judge and the prosicuter do not want tooo admit they were wrong unjust. and didn't care.

Lovelycajun   October 11th, 2010 1:04 am ET

I think it's sad how the justice system just throw people away. My family is going through what your reporting now and DNA has shown that my brother is an innocent man however he's still sitting behind bars. This is a serious problem here in America. Thank you Mr. King for bringing this issue to the surface.

LTanya Wright   October 11th, 2010 1:12 am ET

Yes, I know of someone whom is currently serving a 21 year sentence for rape that he did not commit. DNA testing was done and it came back that there was no signs of rape. They didn't have no hard evidence but he was still charged. How can we get help? He has spent 2yrsso far for a crime he didn't commit. My children and I are having a hard time dealing with him gone, He is not guilty of this crime. His public defender didn't seem to care just wanted him to sign a plea. Why would you if your not guilty? However, we will continue to pray and keep believing that 1 day soon his case will be overturned. GOD is good all the time and all the time GOD is good.

debra jackson   October 11th, 2010 1:14 am ET

my son has been incarcerated for 7 yrs for a crime he didnt commit. he was coerced into taking a plea. which is 30 do 15, where as hwe were told he would've gotten 5LIFE w/o parole sentences which came out to about a 100 yrs. where can we get help in securing his freedom, i became broke with hiring the last attorney who only took us for our 10,000 if not more. PLEASE help me an my son Aundrus come home. THANKS LARRY this is a subject that really needs addressing. debra jackson

Nene Kidd   October 11th, 2010 1:17 am ET

I was so happy I saw Mr. Barry on Larry King,But,10 years ago ,I wrote to the innocence project and they turned my son down. He's serving 22 years for wrongful conviction ,the innocent project stated they took murder cases only ,thank God it wasn't murder but he had a p.d. in Chicago ,and we know how corrupted the system is there. There was no evidence ,or dna ,just a statement of she said. I have been fighting this case with my son for 10 years he had a co-defendent and he served 2 years and was released,I know this is a dileama that can be rectified only if I had the money. If you know anyone that can help please email me,I'm devastated about the whole situation. Thanks

Enoch   October 11th, 2010 2:17 am ET

I say to all those who have posted on this blog and believe themselves (or family/friend) to have been wrongfully convicted...FIGHT ON! I was wrongfully convicted of child abuse in 2006 and subsequently spent 3.5 years in prison. My case is currently in the Supreme Court of the state I live in because my Appellate Attorney assigned by the Public Defender's office fought for me. Some PD's get a bad rap but some actually care and do a great job.

I did not have the financial means to hire a private attorney to fight my appeal because all of my funds were exhausted after hiring two private attorney's for the trial and sentencing. If you believe in your innocence, it may take years but do not stop because justice will eventually prevail. Yes, there are many corrupt cops, state's attorney's and judges out there. But remember, only the squeaky wheel gets the grease!!!

Manideepa Patnaik   October 11th, 2010 5:53 am ET

The INNOCENCE PROJECT should be adequately quipped to give the corrupt police and incompetent attorneys worst of hells for their criminal activities. Jail in a corrupt system is a horrible place. People steal huge money and go there to hide. Innocent people get trapped by scammers with authorities and they get murdered in the jail with a declaration that they got sick and died natural death inside jail. Criminals are sent out of the jail as stewards of the scammed money with a positive pre-plan that they would be made to do more crime and be brought back to jail again. Shocking stories are plenty. Shocking is – when one makes people aware of how shocking is the shocking process and people still pretend they have got nothing to do with it. Jail is a den and club of crafty officers and politicians in corrupt nations. The civilization seems to be on decay – no matter how many alternatives we come up with to loss of rain, climate change and all that. There is likely to be nature revolution for what humans have made of humans. Anyway, the INNOCENT PROJECT must branches everywhere and citizens of all nations must form such projects so there will be sanity. Injustice and cruelty turn many great people what you they call "scroundels( Is this spelling right?) Manideepa

Janice McLean DeLoatch   October 11th, 2010 8:07 am ET

Try being a black, woman, journalist with a NON-DNA case and the wrong county employees in the right county positions conspire against you because you educate the people of their rights and because they can.

In Harford County, Maryland, "American Violet" and " Conviction" happen every day. Always unfavorably to minorities and women. Specifically under two particular judges and 2 particular prosecutors who work jointly to imprison woman getting any kind of assistance from Department of Social Services, etc.

Harry C   October 11th, 2010 9:33 am ET

My brother served 26 years in NYC for a murder he did not commit. The person who did commit this murder wrote a letter (from prison on another charge) to the judge stating that my brother had been wrongfuly convicted. The judge refused to re-open the case. Mom passed away while my brother served time never to see her son as a civilian again. My brother passed away while we worked on his next parole hearing. Justice in good ole America? The justice system is in dire need of repair. It's broken and only works for those who can afford it.

Harriet Ojile   October 11th, 2010 3:31 pm ET

What a great show. If people only could see just how many people are in prison wrongfully convicted, andhow corrupted the systom really is. Ireally wish there was more of this subjuct to be shown. I fell Berry is doing a great job with his innocent project and pray he keeps it up. And I wish more people would get involed. My heart goes out to familys in this devastating justice. The systom is corrupt everywhere. To much power, and not enough justice, everuone whats conviction and are guilty before proven innocenced. I am so ashamed of or systom, when is something going to be done about it. Thank you Larry for this program I hope there is more on this subject.

UNIQUE SPENCER   October 11th, 2010 4:56 pm ET

I am from london in england and the injustice here has got to the top of its game.They have now started to use a 300 year old law called jointenterprize which enables you to be charged and sententced to life even if you was not the murder. The law basically says that a nod or a wink to encourage that person to commit a crime makes you as guilty as them you can image how the justice system is abusing this to their advantage. People who was just a witness to a crime is taking someone elses punishment . I was 17 when my cousin was convicted of murder and two years down the line i have lost my adolesense to our so called justice systems trying to fight for my cousin innocence . so many familes have been affected it really is time to put a stop to injustice.AN INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE -JADE BRAITHWAITE IS INNOCENT -JOINTENTERPRIZE IS A COURT FULL OF LIES

jim   October 11th, 2010 6:27 pm ET

Bob Hatton is in prison in Kentucky for murder, using a van he was NOT driving. The (KSP). Kentucky State Police did fabricate evidence against this man. Bob does have proving showing his innocence which came from the KSP Lab! This evidence was turned over to the attorney general (Jack Conway) who has done NOTHING with it! The woman judge who sentenced Bob, had a husband who was also sentenced to 21 months in federal prison for jury tampering,and voter fraud. Drugs and voter fraud is plentiful in eastern Kentucky and still very much exists there today.The corruption in Bath county and surrounding counties in Kentucky is overwhelming. Again, Bob is innocent and needs to set FREE!!

J. Clark   October 11th, 2010 6:46 pm ET

Prosecutors must have a job description that is not related to how many convictions they make and whistle-blower protection for any revealed attempt to bribe them. This rush to judgement/blame/closure/revenge fantasy/rightousness is a corrupt justice system. Corrections officers have a herd mentality even in Canada, I have witnessed this myself.

Dr, Arria   October 11th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Why we Afghans living abroad can not vote???

Joan StoneI   October 12th, 2010 9:05 pm ET

I have a brother who is an innocent man has been sitting in a federal prison for a crime he did not committ for 10 years. According to the federal guidelines estatlished by the United States Congress the sentence was 7-10 years (aiding & abedding). But because the judge didn't like him he enhanced the sentence and deemed him a terroist and sentenced him to 30 years.

He was in the US Navy for 25 years. Retired with honors and had an immecable militrary career. He was an ABH aviation fireman on four US aircraft carriers, the man never received even a driving violation in his entire life. He was handpicked to serve aboard the USS George Washington. He was the Admiral's Driver when stationed on the NATO Base in Naples, Italy. Also chauffered Bob Hope when he was doing the USO shows in Vietnam.

The arrest was based on lies.

Dwight   October 12th, 2010 11:30 pm ET

Finally, the dark plan that has been into play for decades is slowly coming into the light.
My spouse has been wrongfully convicted and incarcerated by a jury of only 1 black (my husband is black) for the past seven (7) years for a murder he did not commit. What’s even worst; is the behavior of our so-called court officials; DA’s sheriff, detectives, NCIS agents, SBI agents and defense /court appointed attorneys. Mr. Barry Scheck statement of hope and faith is 100 percent correct. Without Faith in God’s justice and the knowledge my husband’s innocence of the murder he is accused, our family could not stand and fight this injustice. Never in a thousand years could our military family (a family who has fought and who currently fights for freedom) imagine such an injustice could happen to our family. However, God has allowed our family to realize; He has chosen and trusted this family to stand up and fight for what is right. God allowed Job to go through his plight, because God knew Job would not turn his back on his God. For those of us who have been selected to STAND; do so with everything He has given you, He has empowered you for the Journey. Encourage your wrongfully convicted loved one to get involved in the prison system by way of teaching, or going back to school, participate in the prison ministry, etc. Encourage them to keep their mind free of satan’s tactics. Remember satan has come to Kill (the spirit and your faith in God) Steal (your dignity, hope, and freedom) and Destroy (the family, happiness, love and joy),. satan is the author of lies, Innocent individuals who have been wrongfully convicted have been falsely accused (lied upon),. Remind your convicted loved one, God told us 365 times (everyday) in his word not to be afraid, that Jesus overcame the world. Pray for those who prosecute and don’t support you, don’t allow them to block your passage to God, or God to you, He can not enter an unforgiving heart.
Mr. Schneck and the Innocent Project, thank you for bringing (what I call) the new method of Slavery “Wrongful Imprisonment” to the public view. This form of slavery has been enforced for several reasons, and is permitted by The U.S. Constitution Amendment 13 Slavery Ended: Section 1 reads: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude (work done against one’s will) EXECEPT as a punishment for having been CONVICTED of a crime, is allowed in the United States, or any of its territories or possessions. (2) Amendment 14 Section 2 reads: This Amendment was to protect the BLACK Vote: If any state takes away the right to vote for: (1) electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, (2) United States senators and representative, or (3) any state executive, legislative, or judicial officers from any males (woman was not allowed to vote at this time) of that state who are (a) twenty-one years of age, (b) citizens of the United States and (c) have not been convicted of a crime or rebellion against the United States. Blacks rights to freedom and the right to vote is being revoked by wrongful convictions and excessive sentencing. This is why we have witness more Blacks convictions at an alarming rate.
STAND: I would like to see a March at the U.S. Justice Department/Supreme Court of citizens who have loved ones wrongfully incarcerated. I believe the thousands possibly millions attendees will bring public awareness that will change a mind set “one wrongfully convicted is one too many” doesn’t actually mean one.” If every family member of a wrongful convicted person, and family members whose loved ones have been freed, donate $1.00 a day to the Innocent Project, we can send a message that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and STAND together against this injustice.
Thank you Barry Schneck ,and the Innocent Project.
Larry King I will miss you, you are the Best in the business.

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Charles Lee   October 13th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

I can not believe that the United States Government does not intervene in this case, of corruption since it was a U.S. Citizen's apparent murder in Mexico that sparked the beheading of a Mexican Homicide Police Officer. These big drug cartels seem to think they are above the law, or that they are the law. The drug cartels pay off Mexican law enforcement authorities to look the other way of incidents like this. One honest Mexican Law Enforcement Official finally steps up, and is beheaded for not looking the other way. The U.S. has the capability to bring home the body (dead or alive) the U.S. Citizen that was alleging to be shot by these drug cartel members that import drugs into the U.S., while Jet Skiing off the coast of Mexico. If the Mexican Government can't or want stand up to these drug cartels, the United States Government should step up to the plate to ensure this type of behavior will not be tolerated to flow into the U.S.A.! Charles / UC

Madeline Jones   October 24th, 2010 5:26 pm ET

Yes, I know someone who is serving time in a maximum prison for a crime he didnot conmitt.Is on "Death Row"/ is often-punshed/ unable to visit... Would like to talk with Barry Scheck; concerning his innocence; to find out what can be done...need answers..Prayerfully submitted

Qiana Gray   November 11th, 2010 2:48 pm ET

I had contacted the INNOCENCE PROJECT a year ago for my husband and they will tell you that they are over run by cases everyday. I got a hold of the innocence project of indianapolis, and they don't take cases that don't have DNA to be tested. I have called wrote bagged and pleaded, Nothing! I want to scream sometimes to think that this can happen. My husband case is a lot like what I 've seen on this blog. There was no evidence, the investigatior didn't do his job, no clothing was collected, no bed sheets. How can witness that would have cleared him not be called to trial? He was convicted on hersey alone, the teen who sad her touched her laughed as she got of the stand. Her mother, my husbands ex girlfriend is the one who told her daughter to say that he touched her. Michael, had no defense. He was told the day of trial that none of his witnees could testify by the public defender becase he failed to submitt an intent to witnees form to the court. This public defender has been a defender for marion county over 30 years and has done nothing but, send people up to got to prison. I wish we had know that he would ve been convicted with no evidence before he went to trial maybe we could've prevented this.
Lately, this girl – who lied- and her mother has been asking about how my husband is doing to his family. I want her to tell the truth but , to who? It is obvious that the state can't be trusted.
It is so sad to see that this has happen to so many people just so the fat cats can get paid. Remember that prisons are a industry.
I want to make a donation to the innocence project to help them continue the fight for justice. Thank you Larry king

Kathy Hastings   November 25th, 2010 3:32 am ET

obtained money. When I tried for 15 years to report criminal acts as crimes and evidence unfolded to me; no attorney or law enforcement agency would allow my evidence and reports to be of record. Instead, I learned by writting the Freedom of Information Act that while my reports and evidence was concealed from FBI, police and court records from 1995 to 2010; insiders with the bank that I sought to report and parties within the FBI and some judges, police and attorney's did in fact create fraudulent documents of FBI, police and court records. I now wait to see if the FBI or any law enforcement agency sends me to prison or has me killed. I've been sit up by law enforcement agencies, attorney's and associates of Sandy Pofahl Drug King Pen Lord Attorney and his associates from 1987 to now. The system has failed me due to a cover up.

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