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Hundreds of Billions of American taxpayer dollars being given to Pakistan during the utterly corrupt Republican administration of Bush-Cheney appears on official US Military documents posted on Wikileak tracking them to have funneled those free dollars to the Pakistani ISI spy agency who used that free money to equip, train and fund the Taliban killing American and NATO troops in Afghanistan. It appears the American taxpayers have been funding both sides of the Afghanistan War!

White House spokesperson Gibbs is stating 'the present administration' has been fully aware of the US military information that was leaked to Wikileak. Really? You knew Billions of free American taxpayer dollars had been funneled by the Pakistani ISI to the Taliban??!

Doesn't this directly contradict the sworn oath CIA employees take to protect America? Here are US Military documents showing the CIA hip deep with the ISI and the ISI giving Billions of American taxpayer dollars to the Taliban who are using that free money to kill Americans. This explains how the Taliban were able to afford and obtain shoulder fired heat seeking missiles to destroy US Helicopters in Afghanistan. The Taliban simply couldn't afford them and wouldn't have access to them, but with free Billions of American taxpayer dollars to the ISI, the Taliban obtained them. Mission Accomplished Bush-Cheney!

Hi Larry,
American public has the right to know the truth.
Precious American lives being lost almost every day, billions of dollars of tax payers money being poured into the two wars, why shouldn't we know??
The public lost their trust of the administration during the Bush-Cheney era of infamy, lies & deception, the Iraq disaster.

The leaked documents just confirm what the public always suspected. That the war is not going well & we have not abandoned the policies of the previous govt.
Its time to pull out & not commit folly after folly. Learn from the history of that region. Get down to finding political solutions.

For the sake of this country, learn the ways of diplomacy & statesmanship. Stop listening to special interests & lobbies.

In regards to Rick Sanchez's question, 'hero or bum'? Wikileak's Julian Assange is an absolute Hero to the free world. A Hero of inspiration to journalists and actual investigative reporters. A Hero standing up to give voice to the mass majority of American's that are only fed the lies and fictions from the US Military complex propaganda machine.

US and Afghanistan Military Classified documents posted on Wikileaks also include posting about free American taxpayer funding to the Pakistani ISI spy agency who has close, long ties with America's CIA. Those documents outlined some of the ISI covert operations to murder US Military troops and destroy the Karzai Government.

Classified Military Reports describe:
Multiple Covert ISI plots to train legions of suicide bombers
Smuggle surface-to-air missiles into Afghanistan
Assassinate President Hamid Karzai
Poison western beer supplies in Afghan cites and that bound for US bases.

Larry,
Why should Wikileaks be criticized for revealing the truth to the world? Afterall they are not giving their opinionated/biased comments but just exposing the truth. Didn't we ridiculed Iran for blocking internet during their election protest? Didn't we raise our voices against China for blocking media on Tibetean's protest during olympics? USA is the country that fights for freedom of speech, now why this double standard, when it comes to the interest of our own government? If Wikileaks is condemned by government of the USA, I don't see a difference from Iran and China who also tried to save their image to the rest of the world. May the history books not be written by winners alone, but by all the people involved.

Director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, states there are only between 60 and 100 Al Qaeda left in Afghanistan. This does not require 150,000 troops present with a cost of over $200 billion a year and loss of troop lives. Not to mention the cost of countless civilian lives numbering in the hundreds of thousands creating increased anti-American sentiments. What we're trying to accomplish in Afghanistan goes against the grain of country and its people. To build up a large state bureaucracy and counterinsurgency are manifestly failing. The Taliban is not going away due to the Pushtun representation in the community. The US should be working much more directly with locals around the confines of Afghanistan as it is made up of many tribes even though the majority is Pushtun. I find it quite synchronous that a web page describing leaked documents exists. Especially since these wars are currently 9 years old.

Parthiban Delli

It also depends on the information contained in these documents. If they could place lives at risk, they should not be published. Again…..If the information contained places your husband, son, father in dire straits, I am sure you would prefer not to have them published. Not everything is as simple as black and white.

"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it."
–Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure."
–Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823.

I have several questions about this whole issue. For instance, if Julian Assange is ever officially considered an "enemy combatant", or one of a handful of other labels, and/or his organization considered a terrorist organization, what happens to all of the people who financially, physically or materially contribute to Wikileaks? Will they be held as well?

Why is it even assumed that Julian Assange has broken the law when he has gone to great lengths to make sure that he WILL NOT be breaking the law? As a matter of fact, he traveled to Iceland and helped reform legislation connected with protection of international journalists. Also, it's been reported that the website's servers are intentionally partially located in Sweden where legislation is in place to protect journalists.

Is it considered a Federal Offense to re-upload and host the documents from here in the United States?

I also wonder why people would even consider him a traitor to the United States? He isn't a citizen of this country. He's from Australia. Furthermore, the documents are not supposedly aimed at demonizing the U.S. at all, but merely exposing deception, mistakes, casualties, etc., from many different sides including Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the United States.

How is it that Washington condemns something so swiftly before they've even had time to begun reading and assessing it? I understand that the documents are considered "Classified" but they've had months to prepare for this because Julian already informed the public that he had the documents and planned to release them. He took the time to make sure that some documents, 15,000 of them, were not released because of potential harm or damage. To me that sounds like someone that is not out to "demonize" anyone or any nation, but wants to get to the truth and through the spin of mainstream media it's difficult to do that.

I remain ambivalent though.

Does this leak have anything to do with General McChrystal ?

Payback

I believe that Wikileaks is completely in the right for releasing these documents. Many of us don't realize the level of corruption in our government. The United States of Lies likes to tout when another government or its military do something wrong, but we freak out when it is let out that ours is also doing things wrong.

The US has no right to condemn these leaks.

Hasn't the government heard?...

Privacy is dead, Get over it!

I would place publishing these documents in the same category as the paparazzi chasing celebrities. While it is within the law, is it advisable?

IF the information leaked in those documents is 1/2 as bad as the media makes it out to be, then these 2 people, the originator and the publisher, should be prosecuted for treason/espionage/and high crimes against the United States and her allies; and punished
appropriately for the crimes.

Those that pay attention to the Middle East should not even shudder a shoulder, knowing how the Pakistan Govt. would try to keep an even keel with the Taliban, while keeping Americans guessing. Come On!

Come on, have we fogotten Korea??? Have we forgotten Vietnam?? Vietnam Vet)??? In this war if you are not America, then you are the emeny!!!

Absolutely not! Those journalists are what's wrong with journalism today. They are scum!

NO

Julian;

Totally a self-serving individual who thinks only of his own potential fame and fortune. He has no regard for the individuals who risk their lives daily. Julian get out on the front line and then let's see what you think – get shot at or see a solider perform his job – you sit home in your comfort and security.

Julian Assange from Wikileaks should be tracked and arrested by US forces, no matter where in the world he is...Regardless of if you agree or dis-agree with the war in Afghanistan, American policy, etc. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE to leak classified documents in a time of war!! You can not do this with men and women on the ground fighting, and especially putting the civilians in Afghanistan who are helping us at risk because you think this is protected by freedom of the press and speech...

Doesn't anyone remember what the Soviets went through back in the 1980s when they occupied Afghanistan? The region is doing the same thing to the U.S as the did to the Soviets, and we all know that in the end the Soviets were eliminated from the world scene, and the communist regime ended just after leaving the region. Truly this shows that the Afghans live in the land of the graveyard of empires, and that this war may end the U.S. and that is what the U.S. government is afraid of.

Do a youtube search for Alex Jones to hear interviews about wikileaks being a CIA front.

Most informed people knew that there were more civilian casualties than reported as evidenced by the number of patriotic resisters in Afghanistan. If we are kept from the truth then we are being used as part of a propaganda campaign. I need to know the truth in order to put the appropriate and truthful pressure on politicians.

Larry,

We have a right to know and I appreciate Wikileaks.

We should be very aware of the connection between our tax dollars and death of citizens in these proxy wars.

Because journalism has turned into news shows that are partisan...we have to have wikileaks to get the unadulterated truth.

I am relatively shocked that any member of the White House and the current administration would even comment on this matter. To suggest that it is "alarming" is a gross understatement. To give any indications, one way or the other, that the information contained in those pages could compromise military efforts of the U.S. is unconscionable. Sometimes, false information is intentionally leaked as part of a larger plan to trick the enemy - take a look at that great movie about WWII - "The Man Who Never Was."

Publishing those Document is absolutely wrong we have troops in Afghanistan it is very dangerous for our troops, I don’t get them the should be prosecuted as terrorists and shot down there website,

Bush threatened our national security when his administration contrived the lies about WMD's and their whereabouts to go to war over there. This war is a farce, and those who have been FOR IT these last nine years do not represent my values as an American.

@Colonel Walter E. Kurtz

Well stated and you bring out some very interesting questions.

What you stated: "….the documents are not supposedly aimed at demonizing the U.S. at all, but merely exposing deception, mistakes, casualties, etc., from many different sides including Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the United States."

If that is true, and no lives are at risk due to these documents being published, I would concur with your statement. However… I am also ambivalent.

I certainly hope the documents were thoroughly read and investigated prior to being published. We have this tendency of "shooting ourselves in the foot"

Unquestionably, WikiLeaks has very courageously served both the public good as well as our brave soldiers in Afghanistan, by publishing the truth of this hideous, misbegotten war. After all, they "exposed" our very own U.S. military classified documents – which are not made-up propaganda. WikiLeaks will potentially be saving hundresds if not thousands more lives (American, coalition & Afghani) by bring this mad, mad war to a much sooner end.

Yes. But through the traditional publishing houses, and in a nice set of collectible, hand-tooled-leather-bound hardcover editions.

Daniel Ellsberg is a true patriot, in every sense of the word. His decision to make the Pentagon papers public was the beginning of the end of the Vietnam War.

Yes i think any kind of information that is given to the public should be truthful and not edited to hide critical information from us taxpayers.
Alot of U.S. citizens believe what the media puts out because they (media) are convincing at SOMETIMES hiding the truth,and making americans appear to be the peacekeepers.Are we really the peacekeepers?
I think that Julian Assange brought to light some of the propaganda our country puts out!
Maybe this is why some other countries HATE the USA.
Signed-Tom

Hi Larry,

My son is in Kandahar, Afganistan. I worry about him and pray for him daily. It bothers me enough to know he is in harms way. It has interferred with my work and my peace of mind. All the stories on tv and on the news is enough. Leave the military strategy to the ones responsible. I know a lot of people want to hear about all of this, but I am mother who loves her son and I feel sure the President is doing all he can to protect these men and women who are fight for our country. They chose to go and volunteer, they weren't drafted. I don't need to worry anymore. Leave it to the professionals who are trained to deal with this. Sometimes less is better. Support our troops in a job they chose. My son said this is what he wants to do and feels in heart the right thing to do for his country, friends and loved ones. He is proud and I am proud of him. They all know what can happened when they sign the little dotted line. Don't give us the families and friends more to worry about. We hear enough and when we don't hear from our sons and loved ones, we worry something has happened. This may be negative on my part, not to know what is in the "leaked information", but my heart can't take much more.
Thanks for listening. I hope you spread this comment.

Susan, the proud mother of an Army soldier

Bob

Your right, with his self serving ideals, he should head up an oil company

Considering that there is no reliable over site in a world where corporations run our government and lies run amok in order to push corporate government agenda, of course the documents should have been published. In what other way would we be able to uncover the real truths involved in such wasteful operations undertaken regularly by the groups of rich men whose interests are the sole reason we wage war anymore. By the way, WHERE IS OSAMA BIN LADEN! After all, he is the one we sent all of our brave men and women to go find so that he might answer for the tragic crimes of 9/11. Do the pubic criticizing these documents being published even remember our original intent of invading Afghanistan? Our government is wasting BILLIONS of dollars for something having absolutely nothing to do with we the general public of the U.S. I am glad someone has the where with all to bring such things to light. What puts our troops in danger is sending them on such fruitless and questionable operations, not these leaked documents.

Why should Julian Assange feel guilty? HE didn't illegally invade Iraq or Afghanistan, then send job-hungry troops to fight there. I'm grateful to him for making it possible to do my civic duty and keep track of what our government is doing and keeping secret unnecessarily. I hope he stays safe.

This guy thinks he is the worlds policman. Why in the world would we or anyone else that claims to be an american ally at anytime tell the enemy what we are going to do, when we are going to do it, and how we are going to prosecute it. This clown has a lot of nerve thinking he can be judge, jury, and executioner in terms of what is right or wrong as it relates to our involvement in this war.

I hope someone leaks where this guy sleeps some night so he can feel the absolute disregard for safety and security that he has enabled. Dan Ellsberg is a liberal who thinks this is the same as the Nam; it's not! If you want to find out what is going on in Afghanistan and Iraq then suit up like the rest of us did.

The American public, and all of the people praising the leak of these documents have no grip on reality. Clandestine, covert, and classified operations and things of that nature are vital to the protection of your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. As a U.S. Marine and an Intelligence analyst, I can tell you that the relase of these documents will cause the death and injury of even more servicemembers in Afghanistan. The blood is now on your hands, and no matter how "wrong" you may think the things in the documents are, two wrongs do not make a right.

I would like to ask Julian if there was anything in the papers that suggests the Taliban were beheading people or other like actions.

Wikileaks has published unit equipment lists that can be used to identify armor and weapons systems. They have shown a disregard for the safety and security of US Soldiers. This is a "WAR CRIME"!!!!! Ever hear of a crime punishable by death? TRY TREASON!!!!!!!!!! Freedom of the press is one thing publishing information that can get American citizens killed is another!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is totally wrong what he has done and should be considered and classified as a spy. The service man who gave him the information should be tried for treason. This type of behavior can not under any circumstances be acceptable. War is an ugly business and sometimes the lost of civilian life is going to happen. Once you take the loss and suffering out of war then you have lost the will to solve problems peacefully.

Julian Assange rocks.

It's blatantly obvious that Julian Assange's only motive in the release of these documents is to put himself in the spotlight even more. It'd be one thing to release documents that highlighted government misconduct, but to release raw military data from the front-lines does nothing more than put our troops in a position to experience violent backlash over what information those documents might contain. I can only assume Assange doesn't have loved ones currently participating in this conflict, otherwise he might think twice about potentially endangering their lives through his own self-serving actions and complete lack of judgment. What I find the most disappointing are the Americans that are lauding this fool as some sort of hero for publishing these documents. Assange, if you don't agree with the war, that's perfectly fine.. Hell, I don't agree with it either. But to release information that you damn well know is capable of putting coalition forces further in harm's way all for the sake of having your face put on TV is absolutely disgusting. I'll be a happy man when your 15 minutes are up.

If the people are not informed, they can not make fair opinions. If only a select number of people have access to this information, who is to determine right and wrong? These problems will continue unless we look at things from another perspective. We should be looking to solutions that do not allow this behavior to come about. The next logical step is self governance, the Internet today could be the portal to real change.

Larry, this breach of information has been done under the banner of false freedom. The false and adolescent notion is that freedom is the opportunity to do whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever you want, without the interference of any other person or party. This is not freedom – certainly not freedom of the press.

This is irresponsible journalism taking many documents that are sensative, classified and out of context to a public without any cognitive, logical or legal thought.

All should be prosecuted.

If we hunted and arrested the folks criticizing these documents being published we would have a much more peaceful world.

Gibbs is lying when he says the excuse for these war crimes is a reponse To 9/11..What gives us the right to kill untold tens of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan because we were attacked and lost 3000 in this 911 conspiracy cooked up here in the US , also Europe and the Middle east . I applaud Julian+Wikileaks and hope they keep this up on the air and online.
Because there really is no reason to be in either Iraq or Afghanistan..
We are wasting time money and blood over there. Osama B Laden hand picked his top Al Queda ops from Saudi Arabia’s elite privliged recruits for 9/11, not Afghanistan ‘s backward medieval Taliban…..This “War” is a Sham !

And the Mantra that the US must keep killing for the honor of the already dead vets is sick. It’s bad karma . Pls don’t BetrayUS Obama..
Stop these wars Now! New boss is same as the old boss.

Watch CNN after noon for more RICKI LEAKS…: )

Bamas got some 'splainin to do! Hillary too !

Where is Daniel Ellsberg reporting from? It does not look like a U S city. If he feels what he did was so right why doens't he live here? What is he afraid of? of crouse, he will tell you he is not afraid of anything, as will Julian Assange, but you notice they are far away from our shores when they talk so big. Isn't America a great country? Our troops are doing more than just talking and don't get half the credit these so called leakers do sitting in their comfortable surroundings and eating well, too. Let them do some real combat!

Hey Laura Elsburg, Is this the same end to the war Obama promised when he fooled, I mean was elected to office??? Obam wants this war as do the Senate and Congress, If this is not the case why do they continue to fund this war??? What the war is costing would more than fund the health care bill as well as the the banking mess!!!!

I believe we should use this document to convict are insane troops for they're war crimes against the Afghanistan civilians.

If leaking these documents compromises our sons/daughters/husbands/fathers who are serving Afghanistan, then this is highly irresponsible Journalism.

Freedom of press is in the Constitution.

Wiki broke no laws here. For all you so called
Americans- READ AND KNOW IT- It's the best
in the world.

It makes everyone accountable.

If forces are put in harms way you need to explain why
before making the statement.. At this point it's only embarrasing
and has highlighted war crimes for which there is no protection. For anyone.

Pakistan is not our ally. They are our bitter foes. All these hideous women who call themselves, Taliban, Al Queda know what we are doing without Wikleaks. Our government tells everyone when we are going to leave Iraq and Afghanistan. When Afghnistan was fighting Russia we went to Bin Laden's rescue, helping with weapons, etc. When we helped Cuba with Castro, he turned on us. We need to worry more about Pakistan. They are hiding Bin Laden and the rest of them. Always seems when we have a drone strike we get a leader in that area.

"It is so difficult to draw a clear line of separation between the abuse and the wholesome use of the press, that as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth and falsehood. And hitherto the public judgment has performed that office with wonderful correctness." –Thomas Jefferson to M. Pictet, 1803.

@ Linda,

You speak of these job-hungry soldiers looking for a fight? Go back a few years and move from sunny Arizona to New Orleans. When the levies failed and the waters rose ask your neighbors in one of the flooded parishes who was there to HELP as a volunteer. Those job-seeking soldiers, sailors, marines, and coast guardsmen. So your civic duty as a citizen of Arizona is to pay your taxes to your government and expect your freedom to talk trash about those aforementioned troops. If you dont like they way things are going get off the golf course and go VOTE in English!!!!!!!!!! You have that right thanks to those job-hungry troops.

Hey Cohen how about if Wikileaks leaked what the Israelis did during their last Gaza incursion?

Kudo's to Julian Assange for blazing a way that should help Democratic politicians pull the plug on further Afghanistan War spending. It appears Julian Assange went to great lengths to insure the documents posted were not entirely damaging ongoing operations in Afghanistan, however they did expose the utterly corrupt ties by the Republican administration of Bush-Cheney and the Pakistani ISI spy agency.

American taxpayers funding both sides of the Afghanistan conflict explains the immense resources given to the Taliban Afghanistan Occupational Resistance fighters. Exposes the ISI connection with heat seeking missiles which have brought down multiple US troop helicopters and the US Military refused to even tell the American public and fallen soldiers familys the exact circumstances which downed that helicopter.

Wikileaks also exposes the ISI connection leading to a Proxy War between Pakistan and India for the future outcome of Afghanistan. I suspect the Wikileaks documents also reveal the depth of involvement between the Pakistiani ISI and the horrific violent attack in Mumbai, India which murdered a hundred Indian civilians.

My question is why is America's CIA even legally allowed it's close ties and support to the Pakistani ISI, and why has the Republican administration along with the CIA turned their back on India, a long term supporter of America? Why are they actively working to destroy India?

I think Julian Assange went about this in a responsible way, he had experts look over these files, and decided that it didnt put anyone in harms way so llets make them public..... I say good for him.

Those who think that the press can do anything in the name of freedom of information, think again. When the leaked info jeopardized our men in the field, get them killed, who will protect our freedom of information, freedom of anything.

Larry,
Absolutely not. Loose lips sink ships was the say during WWII.
While the war in Afghanistan has been questionable in my mind all the time – given historical precedents – making these documents public puts lots of Canadians, US and NATO troups in harms way and only feeds the insurgency to see the country fall back into the middle ages.
The people who will be damaged the most are the Afghans.

If there are documented names, dates, and actions in these "war docs" released by wikileaks, why release them during the war? could you not prosecute suspected war crimes after the war?

I served in the USARMY and spent a 10 month tour in afghanistan. Many of my friends are over there now.

So these docs contain no tactical knowledge? If the you were the Taliban would you be reading these?

I don't understand what people think the Taliban is. You know those teerible hate groups in America that call for the death of all blacks, jews and homosexuals? Imagine them armed with heavy duty weaponry all collected together. The taliban commits rape, murder, kidnapping, etc. Almost every village we visited was elated to see US troops.

Wikileaks was highly irresponsible.

While these document leaks do put our soldiers at risk, I am looking at the positives. It will alter the course of this conflict and hopefully bring our soldiers back sooner. US needs to get out of these countries which can't be reformed. Why bring democracy to countries that want islamic law which is incompatible with western values.

@ T.A.

Truthful is nice. Not edited would be nice unless lives are in jeopardy! So, you would be willing to have information published even though it could put our troops at risk???

hmmmm reminds me of the paparazzi and celebrities. All is fair in journalism I guess! Even if it ends up killing the person (people) Very nice!!!

Where is Ellsburg ??? Can you spell dual citizenship Ellsburg, How about Israel??? Ask him Larry!!!

Help me understand how a journalist has the insight to determine what is secret and should remain so and what should be leaked? Who put Julian in charge? What is Julian's agenda? Who pays for his Armani suits?

Ed just keep drinking the Kool Aid and being delusional about the Dems pulling the plug. They get paid by the same folks as everyone else in the government, they just found huge mineral deposits in Afghanistan..think the politicians that get paid by big business are just going to walk away? Keep dreaming hippies,

America's Shadow Government scans, studys and reads well over 1.5 Billion emails per day. Unwarranted phone and cell wiretaps which record all text messages, record conversations and scan them for content. 24/7 NSA, DHS updates on all American's banking accounts, credit reports and yet Who is wining now about private information being collected and shared for all to see?

Bush-Cheney greatly abused 'secrecy' when of course it favored whatever corrupt or depraved program they were operating. They were the one's that outed Valrie Plame when it was politically convenient to smear and attempt to discredit a critic of the Bush Family push to oust Saddam at any cost of American lives and treasure. Cheney's 100 day backdoor meetings with Big Oil CEO's including BP's Tony Hayward likely included brokering the Libyan Oil leases worth multi-Trillion dollars and that is falsely being deemed 'secret' by Bush-Cheney.

Linda- Get your facts straight. Iraq could be considered an illegal war, but Afghanistan, illegal, really?!?!?!!!!??? Where were you on September 11, 2001, did you not read the news or talk to anyone since that date? Obviously, the USA was ATTACKED and that was an act of war, and thus we had every LEGAL right to go into Afghanistan where the Taliban were hiding Bin Laden and other terrorists who attacked us first! Just if you are going to post, please be truthful!!

P.S. The war in Afghanistan is a war with NATO and is fought by the "ISAF" (understandably mostly US forces, but still, ISAF)

Chris,

War conflicts don't take place because of sons and daughters, they take place to build (or destroy) nations. This talk about Freedom and Sons & Daughters is nothing more than advertising. Most Americans unfortunately live in a bubble that is painted (tainted) by the media. What did the Iraq War do for our Sons & Daughter, or the Vietnam war, or the Korean war, and now the Afghanistan war?

Where is Ellsburg ??? That is no American city! Can you spell dual citizenship Ellsburg, How about Israel??? Ask him Larry!!!

Those who don't learn from history are doomed!
Starting with the King of Persia, Alexander and Ghengis Khan, who refused to enter that rock pile called Afghanistan. Then the English fought three wars and lost. Then the Soviets tried to be smarty pants and withdrew with their tail between their legs. Why do we Americans think we are better. I don't think so. This is not a national security thing, this is just another way of lining some pockets of the rich at the cost of some young innocent americans who will never be able to bounce their children or grandchildren on their knees.

For the question regarding Freedom of the Press.

In Lovell v. City of Griffin, 303 U.S. 444 (1938), Chief Justice Hughes defined the press as, "every sort of publication which affords a vehicle of information and opinion."

Note, Freedom of the press, like freedom of speech, is subject to restrictions on bases such as defamation law, and disclosure of 'sensitive information, etc.

Dan and I discussed this over 35 years ago (LA 1974) and we now see how our leaders, ignorant of the past, now choose to repeat it. Those in the Bush adminstratioin chose to involve us had an agenda, but now they are gone, but Obama has chosen to follow their flawed agenda much as Nixon followed Johnson. So sad that we must now await the decision of the American people to determine our exit. And the signs are becoming clear, at least to those who first saw them 4 decades ago. And we have a Westmoreland look alike.
We should recall that Dan tried to interest important Congressional leaders in the folly of VTNM but they proved faint hearted. Only then did he go to the NYT. And Mr. Nixon killed another 30 thousand Americans before he got reality.

Didn't Mississippi pass a "truth in sentencing law" some years back?

Basically people were fed up with criminals being given justifiably harsh sentences for heinous crimes only to be back on the streets in a short time. The idea was to ensure that people would serve most to all of the time sentenced by the court before being let out.

Of course, that added to the over-crowding problem in the states penal system. Frankly I'm not sure whatever happened to that law, but obviously it has either been over-turned or ignored.

Please help our family:

Seven on Your Side News aired an interview with Assistant District Attorney, Jay Ronald Parrish in which he was very plain spoken about recent releases. One that prompted Mr. Parrish's ire was the announcement of the release of Mike Reeves after only 9 years on the grounds of good behavior. Reeves had been sentenced to serve two consecutive 20-year terms after killing his estranged wife Ellen and her boyfriend Kelly Perret.

Two lives taken and the man only serves a total of nine years! We agree with the Assistant D.A.

@ silvertop, and other's down on what Wikileaks did and represents:

US Soldiers have died in Afghanistan BECAUSE they weren't told heat seeking missiles supplied by the Pakistani ISI were being used by the Taliban.

US Soldiers have died in Afghanistan BECAUSE they weren't told CIA Special Op's either on purpose or by repeated errors had slaughtered large numbers of Afghanistan women and children in a series of midnight raids and those villages and surviving familys took up arms, planted IED's and joined the Taliban as a direct result.

Keeping that critical information 'silent' was wrong for the Soldiers Familys and wrong for the American people. Kudo's to Wikileak for exposing that to the public.

@Matt

The OUTRAGE is the war. The civilians who are collateral damage don't count? Look at the nearly 1.5 civilian casualties in Iraq and tell me who is at categorical risk. I greatly respect those who serve this country and they have been put at great risk by a former president who was being more selfish than serving. Now, like Viet Nam, they are fodder until an acceptable method can be agreed upon to get us out. There is no winners coming home from Afghanistan because you cannot win a war against a nation that has nothing more to hold onto than their belief's. Those belief's cannot and will not be changed by TNT tonnage. They hate the U.S. and cannot and will not be convinced we are there to leave a brighter future behind for them. It's time to know the dirty truth's that have been hidden from the ones that pay for the carnage...YOU.. and all who are taxed to continue this farce. I would like to hear one solid reason we are there. Osama bin Laden could have been dispatched long ago and over 1000 Trade Centers built for the current price tag that essentially proves that this WAR IS STUPID. It will leave history books lying to convince posterity otherwise.

Why is Larry even letting Ellsburg talk....guys from an entirely different war and time. He is entirely caught up in his own hype, he stole classified material, makes him a criminal last time I checked.

@ James, Dick Cheney floated the carrot 'notion' of the American taxpayers recouping their Iraqi War costs by obtaining the Iraqi Oil leases when the fighting ceased. Bush-Cheney gave the multi-Trillion dollar Iraqi Oil field leases to the Chinese for pennys on the dollar, American taxpayers got HOSED.

@ James, Bush-Cheney brokered the immense Copper deposit mineral lease in Afghanistan to China for pennys on the dollar, American taxpayers again gave their lives, blood, sweat, tears and another 1 Trillion dollars and got HOSED.

@ James, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese also obtained the Lithium mineral rights in Afghanistan and that 'news' has simply been suppressed.

Nail down absolutely what time period these documents were leaked. I read that they were leaked during the time period 2004-2009. What month did this leakage stop? Or is it still leaking? This is important because I think the blame is going to be put on the Obama Administration. I 'smell' something odd here. This nonsense has got to stop. Who did the leaking?

John, I do honor our troops, and I want them to come home. I didn't say they were "looking for a fight". They're being used. I don't play golf.

First of all Art I don't believe you have any American values. I have no problem with publishing once there is no danger of causing any life to be lost; The Pentagon papers individual should still be in jail. There is no excuse for betraying your country. Mr Julian should be run out of any country on a rail.

Wish tonight's LKL would be expanded to two hours...the topic is that important.....and that Mr King would quit interrupting his guests and let them make their statements. American tv is too in love with the moderators and not comitted to letting the people making the news or having thoughtful comments have the time to discuss the events or topics.

The majority of 9/11 high jackers were all from Saudi Arabia. They appear to have been given shelter in Afghanistan as was CIA payrolled Osama bin Ladin. America didn't attack Saudi Arabia over what it's citizens did to America on 9/11, America attacked and occupied the country where those dozen men were said to have been hiding out at.

So America would attack Brazil if some outlaws fled to Brazil after a crime in America?

Hundreds of thousands of Afghanistan civilians murdered or severely maimed because a handful of people born in Saudi Arabia came to hide out in Afghanistan? That is the reason floated and continues to be floated for blasting the hell out of the Afghanistan people, few if any ever met the 9/11 high jackers.

Citizens of EE.UU. do you remeber Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the Nation
Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex.

War is a business for a few, a factory for many, and a living way for people tha work in this factories and the young boys and girls that need to work and some times in exchange of theire lifes.

The question is: Does the United States of America can sustain his economy with out making wars?

@ Smith...yeah keep blaming Bush and Cheney for what Obama keeps doing...got to protect the messiah right?

It really doesn't matter that they were leaked or published. I am a soldier and we get a lot of crap labeled top secret. Most of those things never have anything important on them unless you have the rank to support it. So chances are if you are an enlisted soldier E-5 and below, you will never receive something that important. I think the entire thing was blown way out of proportion.
Besides, it's time the U.S. military takes some responsibility and start telling people the truth about how much money, paper, and unnecessary crap we use to say and do a whole lot of nothing. And the military also needs to stop making things seem way more complex and serious then they actually are.

Time Warner Cable blocked audio on regular cable subscribers on the LKL show tonite. No Audio on this whole show. Also starting Anderson Cooper the audio was again blocked. We also have 1 digital cable box that did have audio. Do you think this was an accident? I think the White House controlled my CNN tonite. I think Obama's plan to control our media was in full implementation tonite. It also took me 30 minutes to get on this CNN site tonight. Guys, was this one Raleigh NC isolated broadcast?????

A tempest in a teapot. Has anyone found anything in these documents that really matters to the outcome of this fiasco I call Vietnam two?

I choose to say it again. If your going to go to war, have a damn good reason for our young men to die. Execute your decision with every intent to be victorious with as few KIA and wounded as possible, and as quickly as possible. Have an exit plan that is in line with your objectives.

I am a veteran of Vietnam. I think I know something about the above. The last war, in which there was a decisive victory, we were in involved in was the civil war. Both sides were in it to win.

Determine they are your enemy. Do your best to destroy that enemy, as quickly and efficiently as possible. If occupancy is not to our advantage then go home.

Yes some of our young men will die. That's part of the consequences of making the decision to go to war. Let's just make sure it's done for the right reasons.

Mrs Wood if your a soldier you know all about BDA right? Doesn't matter what YOU think is secret or crap!. I was a soldier as well and did my time in Iraq. If its labeled as not for general circulation, then ITS NOT FOR GENERAL CIRCULATION!

Hi Larry,
Hi folks.
This gives the American public the opportunity to question the wisdom of continuing the war in Afghanistan.
Are we going to do that or do we continue seeing lives being lost & tax payers money pouring down that end less pit?

This nation has suffered enough & America lost its credibility, its clout & influence world wide & notably in the Middle East & Asia due to the policies formulated during Bush-Cheney era of infamy.

Do we continue on like this or do we tell the politicians & our leaders – enough already ??

@James

What is President Obama doing? He is for one not listening to Fox News where you draw your rhetoric from and he IS cleaning up the mess left by the BUSH-CHENEY eight years of idiocy. Go watch your 'failed to be anointed one O'Hannity'...

There seems to be a revolt from within the military itself against these
insane clear and hold and die policies of the U.S. in Afghanistan.

I suspect these so called classified documents (really nixonian/cheney censorship) came from someone inside the pentagon’s inner sphere, who want changes and wants out of this war immediately,,,to help protect their valuable /vulnerable brothers and sisters serving such exhaustive tours in the military. I totally disagree with General W Clark—who says we must conform to orders and obey like some kind of nazi-zombie…when
this war is so damaging and illegal to all .

2 smith : the Shadow Knows…hear hear !

There seems to be a revolt from within the military itself against these
insane clear and hold and die policies of the U.S. in Afghanistan.

I suspect these so called classified documents (really nixonian/cheney censorship)
came from someone inside the pentagon’s inner sphere, who want changes and wants out of this war immediately,,,to help protect their valuable /vulnerable brothers and sisters
serving such exhaustive tours in the military. I totally disagree with General W Clark—who says we must conform to orders and obey like some kind of nazi-zombie…when
this war is so damaging and illegal to all .

2 smith : the Shadow Knows…hear hear !

War crimes, nothing new really. It happens in every war conflict. There is always a fall-guy! Plus the government does a good job of concealing the truth from the American people.

Just take a good look at American History, it reveals all, many years down the road. I figure within the next 50 years or so, the truth will come out about who really killed JFK back in the sixties.

In my opinion, the United States of America has become the U.S.S.R.!
All done nice and legal and the use of fancy words in order to cover-up the truth.

The war is not about oil nor money! The wars will make the working American Class "A Poor" American! The American Dollar is worthless piece of paper!

As a U.S. citizen I feel so grateful for wikileaks – we are all so lulled into sleep by our own media machine owned an operated by who? Remember RFKs speech to the media shortly before his demise, urging them to fight the dark forces that fully intend to strip Americans of their freedom to know what is done in their name? Let's wake up and act like Americans instead of prosecuting an Aussie for having more guts. Thank You.

@ Cajazz...I don't follow FOX or Limbaugh or any of the extremists...President had his opportunity to withdraw from all of our conflicts...if you recall he rallied against the "failed war in Iraq" he said that there are hardly an Al Qaida in Afghanistan, that they are all in Pakistan. Yet here we are for at least another year and change, with conditions providing for a draw down. I'm not a tea party, republican, democrat or liberal everyone has good points and bad...but don't pretend that he's the one politician that is untouched by corruption and lobbyists. Dems have just as much to be held accountable for as well as Reps. plenty of blame to go around ace.

Sorry, JFKs speech, not RFK, and it can be found on youtube. Have a listen.

Many of us see clearly that the world is on the brink of catastrophe.Never has there been a time that the world view of the power elites needs to be questioned and challenged. We see clearly the news outlets that are on the side of damage control for the status quo. Well done Larry King for hosting a debate with Julian Assange and Daniel Elsberg. General Wesley Clarke, and Peter Berger had nothing to offer at this critical time.It's important to recognise people that have a new vision of the world and not cling to outmoded views that condemn all of us to suffering and hell on earth.Wake up CNN.
cheers
Michael Allen

@ Florencio Mendiola Jr., your analogy with the USSR is not without notice. I also submit the corrupt and depraved East German security agencys which turned on it's very people and made their lives a living hell prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

America's enormous Shadow Government known as the secretive 4th. branch of Government just like the KGB in the former USSR probably won't go quietly into the night when American taxpayers pull the plug on that immense and utterly worthless security agency. When massive cut-backs force many of the thousands of agencys within that Shadow Government to shutter their offices and lay off some of the 2.8 Million secret employee's, they'll likely fold into organized crime and plague humanity for many decades in the future, much like former KGB agents did and now work for organized crime as enforcers, drugs, weapons dealing and slave trafficking.

The major concern for all Americans in the near future is if this new Shadow Government will create multiple conflicts and wars to continue it's corrupt existence along with it's Trillion dollar American taxpayer gulping appetite.

Bush-Cheney easily had enough taxpayer funding for true Universal Health for ALL Americans, they choose instead to spend those funds on two foreign wars and create the immense 4th branch of Government.

Make BP and the other big oil companies have at least two ways each to stop similar leaks before oil drilling
off shore is resumed. President Obama kicked BP'S ass and made them put 20 billion dollars in a fund over republican
objections We need to put BP'S balls in a vice until everyone gets paid!
If BP fails to come up with the money, nationalize all their assets in America.

@James

Every think how long it takes to stop a war? The right wing put intense pressure on the president to comply with McChrystal's wishes and you know the military is deeply wrapped around right wing ideologies. Most know that the military doesn't start wars, it is the politicians, as an infamous General once said.

Do you know it took Congress until the spring of 1951 to stop WWII? It took three years beyond the end of combat operation's and a total collapse of South Viet Nam to end that war. It's not a light switch conclusion to end the war in Afghanistan, it is pure politics. Trust, no winners will evolve from it and a greater hatred for the U.S. and less nations that we are welcome in will be our future.

President Obama, if left to a single decision of his own, would, no doubt, end it now. He is literally a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest with the right-wing politicians..

As far as lobbyists in D.C...President Obama banned them from contributing to his campaign, didn't he? He also put a 6 year ban on federal employees, post service also, I think...

I agree 100% that accountability should not be considered partisan and there is enough egregious culpability in all of Washington that should not be overlooked.

As a reporter for decades, and the publisher of Green Heritage News, I am appalled that liberty has become license in the news. The press, according to my understanding of the principal author of its definition under the Bill of Rights, Thomas Jefferson, is to educate, inform and hold power to account. Holding power to account is done through the democratic process, which means presenting information to members of government through established means of communication and fact-checking. In the case of Shirley Sherrod the rush to judgment by the press was swift and decisive before checking facts, and it is this press behavior that is taken for granted, when people should stand up and declare it should not. And neither should the leaking of classified material, even if it is just repetition of what is already known. That was not known at the time of the leak

If men in war did bad things, they should be held to account; but that is not done during the war itself. Does anyone think Allied Forces smiled politely before bayoneting Japanese and Germans? And we also killed thousands of civilians in the dropping of bombs. All wrong for those who oppose war. But in that opposition one does not violate basic democratic principles, and those principles mean vote people out of office if you don’t like the way things are going.

The press that does say "wait a minute" and is guided by those rules established for the press which is to hold feet to the fire but not build the fire, burn the feet that need to run, and then run the hell out of the forest on happy feet afterward.

This was not a demonstration of liberty, it was license; and because of that, it should not be sorted out by the media as something we can all vote on. These days everything is up for a vote, including, at one time, on The View a discussion about whether the world is round. Well the world is round and leaking classified documents is against military law. At another time in history the fellow would be shot.

NO! How could ANY American broadcast CLASSIFIED MILITARY INFORMATION?! And to call it patriotism! Are you insane? Of all the idiotic things to do...Not only will citizens of our country see the documents, SO WILL THE REST OF THE WORLD! It doesn't matter what the papers say, if you do it, so will others.
Great example you're proving to be. Intelligence must be a recessive gene, because you just screwed America over.
Congratulations.
-E

Is this guy from Wikileaks currently in the United States? And if so, why has the FBI not arrested him as yet and sent his sorry ar*e to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba? Better yet, transfer him to Afghanistan and drop him in the middle of a Taliban stronghold. Let's put his butt at risk rather than that of my two nephews who are there now.

Assange should go to jail.

Since it is a leak, The Boss is in possession of stolen goods.
As such, he is in big trouble for fencing them on his website.
I hope that he enjoys his jail time.

Larry,

Come on, why the suprise? The information provided gives credence to what the American people have always suspected but know that our own military and the people who represent us are afraid to tell us.

Even more scary.... How did this "leak" get the material out of a highly secure military fortress when I can't get my shaving lotion through homeland securit at any airport? Maybe consider moving homeland security personnel to the Pentagon?...

Russ

Noyhing is wrong with telling the truth, its wrong to hide the truth. Soldiers are diying and people want to know the truth all of it not bits and pieces.I think thats the jobs of reporters. If u do whats right it shouldnt be incriminating.

I would like to see pretty boy Justin Assange do a tour of duty in Afghanistan. He'd probably be calling out to his mommy when he got some dirt on his pretty blond hair. What goes around, comes around.

Amen!

Yes I am glad to see real journalism since the war is not televised. We need to get out of afganistan and stop spending all our tax dollars. This does not threaten our national security it gets us out of this bottomless war

This man from wikileaks both makes me sad and disgusted. His intentions are extremely dishonorable. I understand people want truth but at what cost? I do not believe they should release these papers while the troops including my husband are there. The fact that he is bringing up the fact that insurgents are getting killed in large numbers when he is not there and he is not fighting... Step In soldiers shoes, instead of uncovering secrets.

Yes, yes, yes,
we the AMerican people have a right to this information. a great majority of people opossed this war, and our taxes are financing this instead of financing our schools, families loosing homes, the families in the Gulf, the war on crime and drugs.
it is about time someone put this out
thank you

to say that this is a threat to our security, please, even the way this is worded is offensive.....
this is a free democracy.. we need more brave people doing this
our soldiers and the innocent Afghani people are dying for a war that we should never gotten involved with........
we all know it has to do with the oil in the area, and now the minerals

I applaud Julian, and those who seek the truth. If anything is treason it is the war in Afghanistan. As an American citizen, paying outrageous taxes in the face of unemployment, and the deteriorating conditions of our nation, it is a crime to have our troops in a backward country like Afghanistan (or Iraq/Pakistan) for no justifiable reason, when our own nation is on the verge of total collapse. What are we defending if our nation is completely deteriorating and our people need justice; the war machine and the profits for those select few who are implementing these treasonous policies? I don't know one single person who believes we should be in these "wars" and certainly no one wants to continue to pay for it when getting a job and food on the table is becoming impossible for so many. Telling the truth and exposing lies should never be treason and there should certainly be no charges whatsoever. I disagree with President Obama on this one.

@Erin

Get a grip...the rest of the world saw it first...and Assange is NOT American. Now what do you say?

As far as I am concerned, This guy should be tried for treason. If the result of those leaks results in our soldiers being hurt in anyway, then I think the death penalty or a really long sentence is in order. I am sick and tired of these lefties putting our troops in jeopardy of wanting to defend these tugs who attacked us in the first place. In the fifties or before this would have been a very serious offense and it should treated as such!

No the documents should not have been public, but brought to a legal review board for these so called war crimes that might have been committed. The documents could cause bodily harm to the forces present on the front line. The troops already place their lives in harms way so people can have freedom, but when freedom places other lives in harms way – it not freedom anymore. This matter could have been handled without placing classified documents availible to the enemy.

So
Please, let's stop this seemingly endless war. These people are tribal and have been , and want to remain so. Why don't we let them sort their own government out for themselves? How many more lives and how many billions of dollars will we dump into this quagmire?

as a former marine!! from the old man bush to his moron son! shoulda listened to stormin norman!!!!! this would not even be a news subject!!! for all you people who live a blind life war is war and people die thats a reallity!!!! your kids nieces and nephews are a part of the american way. those who died for our country my thanks and prayers go out to them!!! the fire power we have this should not be happening nor should never happen!!! ps im not the ceo of BP!!!!!!!

@ jack

well stated. We seem to want to make a large government operation out of a country build out of tribes of people. They are not like us and it would be nice to allow Afghanistan to be their own entity. We seem to think that our way is the only way for all countries of the world. A little egocentric! Nice to see you Jack. How are you tonight?

Not to get too off topic, but to those of you saying "our troops don't need to die, we should bring them back home": Death is inevitable; we decide how we leave this earth.
We choose to join, knowing we'd risk fighting in some God-forsaken place for reasons no one is allowed to know yet, not even us. But it IS our choice. So don't think you're doing us any favors making what we do out to be a lie to placate the American public. We choose to reenlist, knowing full well if we ever have to fight, we might not make it back.
Don't turn our choices into mistakes.

I feel a lot of confusion about the entire thing for me.
1. What happened to the transparency of our Government that we were promised last election?
2. Ok I guess I can understand some secrecy about some thing when we are at war. So if these are classified documents that may cause harm tour solder’s over there. Why has not anyone from Wikileak been brought up on charges?
3. How can we fight with someone and not have civilian casualties if the Terrorist’s, Al Qaeda or Taliban are going to shoot at our solder’s then hide behind their Woman and children? What a bunch of Sissies. If they are right about them doing what God wants and we are wrong then they would not need to hid. They would not have to brain wash there children to strap on a bomb and kill them selves in the name of ala.

We the people must now come out in open to let our corrupt government know we're tired of war. War is an abomination. War is introduced by warped and confused men and women. Especially the republican party is made of mad men who would rather waste our money on war than on the people's welfare.

We have become a sick nation–looking out for people to kill all the time. We must stop killing people. Enough is enough for God sake.

What I see we do in Afghanistan–to the children and their parents make my stomack turns. I'm very sic k that human beings can do this to another human beings. The Us–we the people take pleasure in this. We must stop. We must bring our men home. Please.

Just because all of your four guests including your Julian Assange think it's ok to disclose these documents doesn't mean they're right. The decision to disclose shouldn't be theirs to decide. If we don't change Afghanistan then more terrorists will train there and then make there way back to the U.S. Do you want another 9/11?

Was anyone shocked to know that Pakistan was probably befriending the Taliban...if it did then you are very naiive!

I don't think the documents should have been aired.Our military leaders and soldiers know what they're doing.They have certain strategies.Leaking info could very possibly put our military men and women in danger.There's a reason they call the documents"Classified".Now I suppose the military strategists will have to change everything and put a tight lock on every piece of paper.Yes,I think releasing those classified documents that could cause harm to our military should be considered Treason and the offenders prosecuted.What if their son,daughter,neice,nephew or cousin was in harms way right now,because of their leaked documents?

Now that the Republican politicians and most of its ultra-conservative moral right members have ditched the term 'extending America's Democracy in Afghanistan', what is their spin words now for continuing to dump ten's of billions of American taxpayer dollars each month into Afghanistan under the failed guise of 'nation building'?

The American public are slowly wakening up to the fact that Karzai's hand picked Mayor for running Marjah was initially in a German prison for murder. That convict was brought over to Marjah on the American taxpayers first class dime, and under a platoon of Marines providing protection made a couple speeches in the scheduled PR move and then left with the Marines.

The rest of the McChrystal 'shake and bake' Afghanistan Government officials for Marjah? Didn't even show up! Didn't even go to Marjah with the new 'mayor'. Meanwhile the American 'shake and bake' strategy is plowing ahead in it's cookie cutter approach of doing the same now in Kandahar. But wait, you call Marjah a 'shake and bake' success? No? Then why applying that strategy in Kandahar and expect it to be successful?

The Republican Potty'ticians buzz words of extending America's Democracy in Afghanistan has proven to be a utter falsehood. Hamid Karzai was not majority elected, all nations worldwide view it as a sham election. Hamid Karzai is a dictator and the office of President in Afghanistan is nothing but a dictatorship propped up by the machine guns of the US and NATO troops occupying Afghanistan. And the West is shocked and surprised to see and hear the Afghanistan people trust the Taliban far more than Hamid Karzai and his hand picked thugs.

Larry, I served a full year in Afghanistan. its people like Julian and his wikileak bullcrap who get my brothers killed. All he is doing is tieing our hands behind our back when we leave for a patrol. We keep letting people like this guy influance the war, and we might as well leave our rifles at home.
Cpl Bias/USMC

Also, ask for statistics. There might be one case of a heat seaking missle attack on a NATO helocopter but hes making it out to sound like it happens everyday. From experience, it doesnt...

Larry,
This guy is revolting. Why doesn't he go after the real bad guys, the ones that got us there in the middle east in the first place, instead of the soldiers who are doing our bidding? My duaghter has been deployed twice, and she will be soon be deployed again, as part of our special operations command. She thinks she is doing the right thing as a soldier. I worry about her all the time. I worry about her many earnest fellow soldiers who are in our service. Please don't let creeps like this Julian help put our soldiers in further danger. If this Julian was really brave, he would be going after our former president, his former vice president, and their corporate raiders, instead of the poor soldiers.

What's next?

Enough is enough. First McChrystal speaks out against the war effort and is rewarded to full retirement with military honors no less. Now this. The difference will be that this person will be prosecuted–another example of the double standard of justice in this country. What message is this sending to Afganistan, Pakistan and whomever our government deems is our enemy? Bring our troops home yesterday! I doubt that our elected nonrepresentatives will listen to the will of the people to end the wars as corporate America is running our now incompetant government. Afganistan and Iraq did nothing to us but Bush lead us into these wars. The 911 perpetrators came from Dubai! More military has died in these wars than in 911 not to mention the at least one suicide daily. How many more lives have to be destroyed? How many more innocent civilians have to die? Stop this insanity!!!!!!!!!

As I suggested before this story broke, the leak originated out of Pakistan.

Nothing new there.

It's how they operate.

Beware of the threat, it may not be coming from the middle east.

Case in point.

The atempt in New York in recent weeks was planned and executed by a Pakistani individual.

nobody can deny the use of the document which will benefit the people who want to know more about the war, including tax payers and, well, especially the people who keep surppoting the war.
lets put an end to it.

folks read up on the history of Afghans.
No foreign invader has ever been victorious or an occupation endured for long.
As @Dodie said.
Afghanistan is made up of tribes who more often than not are at loggerheads with each other. They are basically warriors & carrying an automatic slung on the shoulder of every Afghan is part of their culture. No outsider can rule them.
You kill them, bomb them & they will be there to fight you for generations. If you bring up the specter of a religious war as some morons among our politicians & in congress (Newt Gingrich is one example) are wont to do,they will unite to fight whoever threatens their religion or way of life.
@Dapo
most thinking Americans share your sentiments.
@gerald Jolly
the report about Pakistani Intelligence seems to be an oximoron.As Peter Bergen pointed out last night on LKL that the number of Pakistani army personnel killed by Talibans far exceeds the number of Americans or Nato troops.
And so also the Pakistani civilians murdered by Talibans
Why would their army stand for this & let their intelligence collaborate with Talibans? A little confusing.

The documents reported by Karzai Govt who blames every suffering in Afghanistan is due to Pakistan and its intelligence agency ISI. In fact if a mosquito bites some one in Karzai Regime or Indian Regime, the blame it to be an ISI's agent. This has been a common practice of Indian and Karzai Regimes becaus they need an escape goat after all their failed war scheme. In the past from attack on Indian parliment to indian train bombing and all other terror attacks they have blamed Pakistan for them without any proof. An attack on Indian parliament in which no indian parliamentarian was ready to give his life to make it feel a real terrorist attack. Bravo India. Excellent indian drama scheme but still a drama is a drama.

After exposing the names of those in Karzai Regime who said that ISI is involved in this or that attack, first they loose their trust from Pakistan by giving false reports and secondly confirming their strong alliance with Indian mission.

American army is in Afghanistan and controlling most of them area, is it possible that ISI gose in Afghanistan and helps taliban in the northern Afghanistan.
This report just serves a way to produce more hate between India, Pakistan and Afganistan. It also shows how much Indian lobby can influence Capital Hill or Pentagon through its Jewish allies

The documents reported by Karzai Govt who blames every suffering in Afghanistan is due to Pakistan and its intelligence agency ISI. In fact if a mosquito bites some one in Karzai Regime or Indian Regime, the blame it to be an ISI's agent. This has been a common practice of Indian and Karzai Regimes becaus they need an escape goat after all their failed war scheme. In the past from attack on Indian parliment to indian train bombing and all other terror attacks they have blamed Pakistan for them without any proof. An attack on Indian parliament in which no indian parliamentarian was ready to give his life to make it feel a real terrorist attack. Bravo India. Excellent indian drama scheme but still a drama is a drama.

Cpl_USMC...

Semper Fi and thank you for your service.. While you may still have fellow Marines in Afghanistan, I wonder if you feel the war is worth it? One nasty place to live without a war, isn't it? Do you feel the U.S. has an obligation to fulfill due to the 9/11 attacks by enacting Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld policies on an entire nation that had nothing to do with 9/11? You can argue that bin Laden was hiding there, but what did the more than 32,000 dead civilians have to do with him? You do realize that is 1000% percent more than died on that September day in 2001, don't you? Why, in your own words, were you there? Just asking..caj

My thoughts have not changed about the ill conceived wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we need to get out of there as quickly as possible....from what I can tell Wikileaks is just supporting what we already know.

U.S. and its NATO ALLIES...STOP THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN....

Could this be a hydrogen bomb retaliation from some irked and disgruntled big wig (ex) officer (s) or their shipish admirers? But we should not jump into conclusions. The FBI and The CIA have their works cutout for them. Now is the time for them to prove their competence. We want to know who opened the flood-gate. We have to know. This isn't what you can brush aside and say 'oh its not important or its old news'. If who,when,why and possible accomplices are not disclosed, then all in the chain of command past and present, high or low are all suspect. I don't care what the justifyers say, this is neither good for defence and security nor for peace and prosperity. It is an exercise in breakless, borderless, reckless and run-away liberalism that does no one any good. Only the AlQuida/ Taliban're any wiser and better off from this, cause it is a costless and sophiscated source of inteligence and propagander. They really scored big time, a veritable home runner for them and would be enemy. Fact is that most liberals and conservatives all over the world can't fathom how you can achieve peace and reconcilliation by openning such a potent can of worm. The information on those documents could've been used better. Megaphone diplomacy seldomly succeed nor shock and awe a prudent war strategy as Ronald Rumsfeld must've learned. Well, somebody must have gotten his revenge and some other their fifteen minutes notoreity or infame. This is an ill- wind that blows no good.

@Cajazz

Amen to that.
When our we Americans going to wake up & take notice? Or have we become the monks who endure self-flagellation or macho-sadistic to continue suffering the consequences of what transpired during the Bush-Cheney era of infamy.

Call our troops home, for goodness sake & sake of our blessed country.

I have used bear spray on a black bear and he did not respond to it. This was in Alaska

Karen Bangel

Did you use brown, polar, or black bear spray? In Arizona they have it down to a science...and in such colorful cans..