March 21, 2010

LKL Sunday!

Posted: 06:00 PM ET

The showdown over health care reform!

As the house gets ready to make its historic vote, we're bringing you the latest as the Democrats and Republicans battle it out!

Don't miss this special Larry King Live!


Do YOU want the health care reform to pass?

Let us know!

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AlphaPoe1   March 21st, 2010 6:14 pm ET

We absolutely NEED this bill passed. I cry every time I hear opponents yell "Kill the Bill" because I think of my friend John, who has a brain tumor and can't afford or get health insurance because he has a pre-existing condition, all the older workers under 65 who lost their jobs and health coverage and whose Cobra expired, and myself, who is also sick with no affordable insurance available to me, nor can I afford the medications I need anymore. This is America, and this situation is just wrong.

Gerald Jolly   March 21st, 2010 6:34 pm ET

Well Well Well folks, it's now a sure thing that the health bill will pass both houses.

Here's some up to the minute news.

Health Care Providers, Pharmacutical Companies, and Health Care Insurance companies, are not wasting time.

Given that it's a done deal these health providing companies are "DEMANDING" the return of $460 million dollars they have contributed to the Repugnant-Cans for their election financing.

The claim is that the Insurance, Health care, and Pharmacutical companies were promised by the Repugnant-Cans party that the bill would be defeated and this issue was guaranteed by every sitting Repugnant-Can member in the House and Senate, and that guarantee was not lived up too.

The head of the lobby group representing those "SCARLET" companies, had promised that they would deliver on their promise to "KILL THE BILL" and failed to do so.

Unfortunately much of the $460 million dollars in donations can not be retrieved, because the Repugnicants that accepted the bribes have spent most of the money on their election re-election campaigns.

Is'nt it amazing how one group of crooks, gets cheated by another group of crooks.



Gerald Jolly   March 21st, 2010 6:37 pm ET

The Dems, have promised to send every REPUGNANT-CAN a large box of "KLEENEX"

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 6:49 pm ET

While all Americans certainly deserve affordable health care, I do have major concerns as to how this bill is written. Many Americans are unaware that Illegal Aliens can apply and receive lifetime SSI benefits without ever making a $ contribution. We have a specific agency that specializes in acquiring SSI benefits for Illegals so the burden of providing costs for expensive medications falls on the state and federal funds, not county funds.

Between two unnecessary wars and outsource of major corporations along with many now out of work, the tax payers are no longer numerous enough or make large enough contributions to float this country. I strongly feel affordable medical care should be linked to unemployment benefits.

@ AlphaPoe1

There is a hospital near San Francisco that is providing free Cancer treatments to illegals from Mexico. I have a very good friend MD that works there. I will be back this week and provide you with the information so your friend can also be treated at no cost. ...

@ Gerald. I find that very humorous.. one group of crooks become the victims of another group. That happens when too many crooks are drawing from the same pot!

Hank Ahonen   March 21st, 2010 7:03 pm ET

Canadians and americans are similar in many ways when it comes to politics, religion, sports, fashion, art, entertainment, travel etc. Hovever, when you ask a canadian if they would like to move permanently to the USA, you often hear them commenting about american healtcare system which some say is unfair, costly or even out of reach for an ordinary person. May this March 21, 2010 (the first day of spring) be a day that goes to history books as the day when the great country of The United States of America emerged from the dark ages when it comes to providing universal health care to its people.

Ronn Brourman   March 21st, 2010 7:11 pm ET

This is a tremendous, historic and very valuable bill! It will help to insure over 31 million Americans who were not previously covered, prevent all of us from being dropped by insurance companies due to preexisting conditions, arbitrary caps on coverage or other quirky rules that insurance companies can use to terminate coverage and reduce their overall business costs and many help all Americans in a wide variety of ways.

It will greatly help people who for no fault of their own become very ill or get into an accident from facing financial ruin in addition to their illness and accident condition.

The arguments that the conservatives are making seem to be attempting to confound these points by talking about all types of red herring issues, many of which have absolutely no relation at all to this bill.

Last but certainly not least, this will help the economy by preventing Americans from the real threat of financial ruin, by providing much more comprehensive, preventive healthcare decreasing the higher costs that result from untreated cases become more serious and many other ways. It will not only help the economy in the long run, I believe it will have a number of short-term effects due to the increase in company activity helping Americans by providing preventative healthcare.

The conservatives' claims that the cost is too high are utter nonsense–making Americans more healthy and the stimulus to business as a result of this will make our country financially stronger!

In sum, this is truly historical and a tremendous enhancement of the quality of life to all Americans now and in the future!

Pam   March 21st, 2010 8:40 pm ET

Higher taxes during the state of this economy is not a good thing, so no. Fix the ecomomy first so that people and businesses can afford their own chosen insurance. Obama want to succeed at passing this bill so he go down in history for healthcare reform at the cost of America's economic stability. Shame on him and anyone who supports this action.

shasta2001   March 21st, 2010 8:43 pm ET

The doctors in America will now be jumping ship like rats when the boat is on fire. The greatest doctor shortage in history is on its way.

Pam   March 21st, 2010 9:00 pm ET

To Gerald Jolly,
No more crooked than the closed door and back alley way Obama and Pelosi have manipulated trying to get their bill passed. This vote reeks of bribary and deceit and you know it. Let me just ask you or anyone out there who supports our current president's policies, something. If you are in debt, do you go out and borrow tons and tons of money to rectify the situation? When you are trying to get out of debt, do you do borrow and spend and borrow and spend again? Nobody in their right mind does that so why do you support doing it to your country? Be realistic!

Pam   March 21st, 2010 9:04 pm ET

By the way, Gerald. That box of "Kleenex" you say has been promised to all the Repulican, will now be bought out of YOUR pocket, along with soooooo many other things and you can do NOTHING about it, hahahah!

Anne D   March 21st, 2010 9:10 pm ET

@Gerald Jolly,
My first point is for you. I have no idea what your sources are for the various pieces of information you post on LKL, but you certainly missed the boat on this one. Unlike many, I do not claim to be an expert on all issues. However, I am quite comfortable telling you that you might want to remove pharmaceutical companies from your list of unhappy campers. Actually, they are in support of the bill.

As for the bill, it seems that people want to make it about the RePUGnants and the DemoncRATs instead of looking at the facts. Many Americans will be very surprised when they fully understand this healthcare bill. It has nothing to do with healthcare reform and a little bit to do with healthcare expansion.

I wonder how many understand that about half of the 30,000,000 to be covered will be shuffled into their state Medicaid program. How will Medicaid cover everyone without raising state income taxes? For sure the fed won't be giving them enough money. Many states are currently removing people from Medicaid benefits.

As for healthcare expense, we talk about people going to the ER because they do not have insurance. Well, the biggest challenge with the state Medicaid programs is that members quite often chose to go to the ER instead of seeing their physician. Some have even tried to place 24-hr clinics near the ERs. hoping people would go there instead of the ER. Didn't happen. Is there some reason to think newly enrolled Medicaid recipients will do anything differently? Additionally, physicians taking Medicaid patients make about 66% of what other physicians. So what next? Force them to take these patients? If we keep it up, maybe we can get them to practice for $25,000 or $30,000 a year like some commercial airline pilots who didn't hold up (literally).

It is a major problem that there was not bipartisan support of this bill. As Obama said, many presidents in the past wanted healthcare reform. We can place at the top of the list President Nixon. He had the support of the Democrats also. Ben Stein, who is constantly criticized by LKL bloggers, wrote the plan for medical coverage for indigent patients and middle class citizens who could not afford coverage. If not for Watergate, we may have had a bipartisan bill years ago.

Now some want to push back or file a lawsuit because they are going to be penalized if they do not buy health insurance for themselves. But then they will be first in line for coverage as soon as they are ill. So I guess we are saying many still want to contribute nothing but want the benefits.

I don't believe there are any Americans who want healthcare denied anyone for a pre-existing condition. There are several points on which everyone agreed; one has to wonder why they didn't start there.

It is said this bill will reduce the deficit. It would be good if it were stated accurately, meaning that some feel it will reduce the projected deficit. The key word is projected. The government has never accurately estimated the cost of anything; Medicare being the best example. It cost billions more than estimated initially.

There is greed everywhere. Some say those not in support of the bill are greedy. Some say greedy are those who don't care that their children and grandchildren will never stop paying for this bill and other government actions. So perhaps everyone is only for themselves.
And if I may mix church and state...God help us all.

shasta2001   March 21st, 2010 9:11 pm ET

Everyone should get ready to wait months and years for necessary procedures.

Pam   March 21st, 2010 9:19 pm ET

Good post Anne, but the country still needs to improve it's economy before doing ANYTHING else. If we have to do something, I think improving or expanding the existing Medicaid program would have been a far less expensive way to go. But that would not have given Obama the historical impact that he wants his legacy to carry.

Eddie   March 21st, 2010 9:38 pm ET

I'm praying America will come out of the dark ages and help its people! You only see greedy people who can afford insurance protesting. Plus those haters that don't know what the hell their talking about just to stand in the way of OBAMA! This is going to save American lives......Regardless to what; the system hasn't been working for "the people" at all....At last there is a chance........"GOD HAS BLESSED AMERICA WITH OBAMA"!!

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 9:39 pm ET

@ Pam

Our country’s economy will NOT improve while supporting hundreds of billions in two wars with always a 3rd peering around the corner. Combined with the outsourcing of mega corporations supporting slave labor in other economies…..
Until these two issues are extinguished there will be no change in our economic situation other than possibly spiraling downward.

eve pilli   March 21st, 2010 9:56 pm ET

My question to all the CNN Anchors and Reporters is first one that never seems to be answered on any news network and that is what is this new health care reform bill going to do for people who can not afford any type of insurance? I am speaking of the poor, the ones who cannot and do not file taxs returns to gain tax credits. Not those living below poverty level or the middle class; but, of the thousands of Americans who are the poorest of the poor living and dying on the streets of American soil due to the greed of others? How will this bill improve the quality of medical care that they would receive under this reform? We give the poor, health care reform before we give them food or shelther- when the lack of food, clean shelter, and clean water are the very reasons why so many of the poor are sick and dying here in America and across the Globe. I say this; before we have health care reform, we need to fix the things make people sick in the first place- Universal Health Care: Love One Another

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 10:06 pm ET

I understand this is not a popular stance; however, I am very tired of walking down a one way street!

Since people have major problems with government funding paying for abortions. Then it needs to be addressed at both directions. Neither should government funding pay for any medical costs birthing children.

Cajazz76:24:8   March 21st, 2010 10:08 pm ET

I still find it so very amusing that very little is made of the fact that this U.S. Government will spend all of their budgeted $682,000,000,000, and then some, on defense and I, for the last 40 years of my life, have not heard more than a whisper of flatulence in the wind to debate it.

Yet, we allow nearly 20,000 registered voter's to die each year, because they have no health care. In the 8 year's of the Bush-Cheney debacle, which of you raised your voices in question to whether a healthcare bill or a revamp of Medicare or Medicaid would even be tabled for debate?

The unfunded prescription drug addendum to supplement an already crippled Medicare and Medicaid program, to reduce the cost of medicine to those recipient's who are caught in the so-called donut hole debacle, costing you billion's in unnecessary and wasted tax dollar's, was the only healthcare related issue your previous President ever signed .

President Obama did something to correct it, he challenged it and was successful in getting prices rolled back by 50%. Who of you even remember that?

He showed his leadership abilities throughout this entire debate by never allowing the status quo to suffice.

Today, after the votes were realized that would pass the healthcare bill, John Boehner, R. Ohio, the cry baby minority leader, continued his onslaught of evil this and unsuccessful that and cost you this and deficit that.

When his word's became mute, over the louder murmur's of it being successful, you then heard the following: Christopher Smith, R., N.J.; Joe Pitts R.,PA.; Mike Pence, R., IN.,; Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R., WA.; jumped on their band wagon proclaiming your taxes used to fund the health care bill would pay for abortion's, which will be removed in any form from the Senate bill by executive order, once the bill is passed, later today.

The one thing that made me close to spilling my lunch was the invocation by Joe Pitts that the Catholic Church was already in action to use their Republican headed influence to gather your support in a last ditch effort to defeat the legislation.

Separation of church and state...never. How laughable to put the fear of your God into the debate that could extend your life.

Those of you who still gather around your Republican idol's and just want to see them spend your, as well as, your children's future on what goes boom, then becomes inert, then fine. You will have to wait until they are the leader's of the band to do it. That could come as early as November or as late as never, hopefully the latter. Sorry for any error's in grammar or whatever, this was not edited.

rob   March 21st, 2010 10:09 pm ET

It's amazing to hear the republicans talk about how Cristian your country is. Jesus did say love your neighbor as you love yourself and when you care for the least among you, you are taking care of me. How can you be a Cristian and only care about the unborn. Being pro-life is caring about all living creatures on this Earth. I'm Canadian and would not give up my government health care for anything. In 54 years I have never received a bill for anything. I see quite a bit of Hypocrisy. I'm glad we don't hate and mistrust our government the way U.S. citizens do.It's time for America to move forward into the 21'st century.

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 21st, 2010 10:10 pm ET

Hi everyone
@Gerald Jolly and @Dodie

I wish all the best to America in it's health care reforms.
I pray President Obama succeed in this bid which will benefit all Americans and not only the rich.
It's time America has the best health system, befitting its status as the world's greatest nation.

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 10:21 pm ET

@ Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Thank you Idzan Ismail. I, too, am hoping there will be affordable health care for all American Citizens and removing the pre-conditioned clause!

Cajazz76:24:8   March 21st, 2010 10:26 pm ET

Idzan Ismail

If you climb to the top of the Petronis Twins, look for a blue flashing light to your northwest. I will be sending you a signal when the bill passes.

eve pilli   March 21st, 2010 10:28 pm ET

My solution for Health Care Reform is simple: a reform in government.

Universal Health Care: Love One Another

The lack of love is what truly makes people all over the world sick!
Sickness has its roots in poverty and poverty has it roots in greed.
Find the Greedy, hold them accountable and we will feed and care for all the needy.

Nancy Anderson   March 21st, 2010 10:39 pm ET

Absolutely, this needs to pass! Every informed voter with a heart knows that this was critical. The worn-out Republican excuses are an insult to our intelligence. This has been over a century in the making. They can't use the death panels, or socialism, or start over and do it right line of hooey with anyone who has an iq over room temperature who isn't a Fox/Rush follower. They have incited hateful people with inaccurate information and downright lies. They should be ashamed of themselves for hiding behind the Christian religion in performing their atrocities. Without a doubt, President Obama is the one who has turned the other cheek and kept working hard to do what is best for the citizens of our country.

I will work even harder in 2010 and 2012 to continue this progress. God Bless America and have mercy on the hatemongers led by the Republican Party. I don't know how they sleep at night.

A. Smith, Oregon   March 21st, 2010 10:58 pm ET

Despite every attempt by the Republican congressmen to obstruct, delay and distort the pending American Health Care bill, the Democratic led majority more than held their own, they kicked the Republican's back to Texas! And were last seen staggering out of the White House congressional chambers with a large boot inserted up their rear ends.

Tea Party members and their Republican party were rumored to be thinking about burning some crosses in their home States as part of a recruitment drive for more members during the Congressional spring recess.

Pam   March 21st, 2010 11:00 pm ET

@ Dodie

No spending, including that which has been spent on all the wars combined, comes close to what Obama has spent on his pet projects in one single year!! He is a JOKE and so is anyone who supports him and his extravagant ways. You all talk about the greed of people opposing the healthcare bill, what kind of greed do you think it takes to spend trillions and trillions of dollars that are NOT available, no matter how badly you want them to be, as he has done! So people will now have a sub-quality insurance, but no money for anything else after paying the extreme tax hike for it. Brilliant, once again!

eve pilli   March 21st, 2010 11:01 pm ET

What continuously divides us will eventually destroy us. We are not democrats nor republicans-we are a people. Let us care for all by simply following the words of our Founding Fathers, "We the people........... we all know the words; now let us put those words into action not just into a historical bill. Our Government spends and invests more money in protecting and persevering the Historical Documents of our Founding Fathers then on the people those very documents where meant to protect and preserve. I believe that this bill was passed more to make history than to change our history; and a change in direction is what this country needs.

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 11:18 pm ET

Thanks Gerald. I will go there next... but wanted to make this statement first....

Just typical of the Republicans… calling out “babykiller” Talk about immature! How about what the Republicans are doing to our Children at war in Iraq and Afghanistan??? What about the life of those people? Our bombs covered in Depleted Uranium killing many American military. The supreme irony is that our own D.U. weapons are going to kill infinitely more American soldiers than the Taliban or Al Qaeda. What a tragedy! What the hell are we doing to our military men?

A. Smith, Oregon   March 21st, 2010 11:26 pm ET

Billions of American taxpayer dollars are lost to fraud by corrupt MD's who submit claims for non-existent MRI's and CAT-scans. American's new Health Care bill places stiff regulations and policing on MD's that own their own MRI and other diagnostic medical equipment to prevent the massive fraud which the Republican party apparently voted against fixing.

All told, America's Health Care bill is not only a deposit on all American's for a brighter future, it is the largest public debt reducing bill ever passed and signed into American law.

Willie Rockett sr.   March 21st, 2010 11:30 pm ET

Why would anyone waste time appealing this Bill. Try appealing the same sex and the abortion issues in our Nation. There are cruel people in this world that would rather see babies murdered and gays married but hate to see people get the health care that they need.

Gerald Jolly   March 21st, 2010 11:32 pm ET

Repugnantcans are now in a state of complete panic

John, and the Repugnant minority whip are begging their constituents to bail them out of the $460 million dollars they recieved in bribes from the Insurance, Health providers and Pharmacutical companies Industry.

They plan to have a cookie sales and candy apple sale to raise some of the bribe money, they squandered on their girlfriends and young male pages on Capital Hill.


Jennifer Smith   March 21st, 2010 11:32 pm ET




Jennifer Smith
(Honolulu Hawaii)

Dodie   March 21st, 2010 11:33 pm ET


Before making strong statements with out the backing, I strongly suggest you research the exact costs of these wars and how much was borrowed without American’s awareness. When President Obama entered office, we were already trillions in debt with a good 6 more trillion go into effect the of starting 2012. Unless the 9 trillion dollars went into Cheney/Bush’s pocket, I suggest a majorly of it was spent for our huge and hungry defense contractors….

Remember, a part of the cost of our wars is taking care of our Veterans which we seem negate in past years which is an abomination. Our Vets will come home sick due to the depleted uranium coatings on the bombs. This is broken down as dioxin contamination is what was also found in Agent Orange. This caused many birth defects along with killing many soldiers in a slow horrible death during the Vietnam war. So these soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan will be facing many years of medical conditions.

Cajazz76:24:8   March 21st, 2010 11:44 pm ET


Please google Debt Clock and log on to it and come back and make a valid argument instead of showing your race and Republican status...Your far too uninformed and bias.

Cajazz76:24:8   March 22nd, 2010 12:00 am ET

Willy Rockett sr.

How unique your missile flies in both direction's...up up and away Rocket Man!

Jim Carroll   March 22nd, 2010 12:01 am ET


RickFromDetroit   March 22nd, 2010 12:04 am ET

Does Wolf Blitzer and the CNN crew ever sleep?

Rebecca Taylor   March 22nd, 2010 12:06 am ET

Is it just me, or has the addition of David Plouffe back on the presidents staff in January totally energized and focused the White House? Plouffe turns Obama back into the guy I voted for and got health care passed!

RickFromDetroit   March 22nd, 2010 12:08 am ET

We already have a shortage of doctors in this Country, one doctor per 400 people as reported by CNN Lou Dobbs last year. Hopefully this reform bill will help with this problem.

Donald L Allen   March 22nd, 2010 12:28 am ET

I,M hare four the fit ween it start the man is starting it and his name is OBAMA I,M just trying to have my Own Life and he is casing trouble if you no were I live than you no what I mean I well start in Russia and than I well try to be good but if I can not you sued look out my friend it Global and I hop the word stick out to the end of the world yes we must live this country and start A new Life so what do you say what do you think see you Larry King what well they do now not about the US no more about trouble Donald L Allen we got the fair power what do you think

Henya, Ca   March 22nd, 2010 12:29 am ET

I hope that people see the true faces of the Rpubli-CON it is a great day for all American and what a great awesome President we have he just made history, and in my opinion they will suffer in November they plain angry evil people and the biggest losers,

Joanne Gainen   March 22nd, 2010 12:31 am ET

CNN did a great job of covering the House vote tonight. Now, I hope CNN will NOT dwell on the unseemly comment during Bart Stupak's courageous address, but will take up the facts, practical implications, and policy directions represented by this vote. I urge CNN to help educate the public objectively about the "rest of the story" especially when speakers make one-sided claims. Costs going up? Ideas for making a difference? Let's hear about them. Tax increase – ?? For the 12% or so of Americans who make over $200,000. Will that destroy the economy? I don't think so. Haven't we heard these claims before – and found them to be untrue. It seems to me it's the duty of the media to bring the history to light, not just to let representatives of either party, or various "talking heads," voice their opinions as though they were facts. CNN claims to be the most trusted name in news, and this would be a great time to live up to that distinction.

frankie   March 22nd, 2010 12:33 am ET

Please tell Boehner to stop lying about me. I am an American citizen on Medicare and I am happy that the government finally listened to ME. I have wanted health care reform since the days of the Clinton administration. I do not fear Medicare being tightened up. Health care reform is what I have been asking for and praying for and hoping for. I would like to no longer have myself lied about. Thank-you.

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 12:35 am ET

@frankie, you are one person, not the entire Medicare population. Did you not hear Wolf say he had been asked by concerned Medicare enrollees.

Ann-Virginia   March 22nd, 2010 12:35 am ET

What country is Rep.Issa from?It certainly isn't my country,the United States of America.He is fantisizing if he believes any of the garbage spewing from his lips.Boehner & the rest of the GOP are cutting their own throats with their opposition to HC.They say Americans are opposed to this bill & that's just not true.Those Americans wise enough to research the bill & learn the truth are for the bill & those who have listened to the lies,misinformation & misrepresentation of facts by GOP,talk radio & the insuranse industry are the only ones against.Americans are sick & tired of the negativity from the right & they will pay at the polls.

JSOBlog   March 22nd, 2010 12:37 am ET

Wolfe, Republicans has missed a great opportunity to be part of Health Care Reform. It has passed and surprisingly after admiting over 200 amendments from Republicans, it has zero votes from them. All that will benefit under the new reform will remember Democrats in Nov and 2012.

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 12:38 am ET

@Ann-Virginia, aren't those opposed talking about the cost of the bill more than the contents? Are you saying you have read the bill and could explain it all to us?

RickFromDetroit   March 22nd, 2010 12:39 am ET

After four years of fighting with my insurance company, I wonder if they are ready to start paying for my medical bills. I had to go on the public option 3 years ago. [SS and VA]

nina   March 22nd, 2010 12:41 am ET

I am delighted that the health care passed. I am sick of the Republican refrain, repeated every time a Republican speaks, that the American people do not want this bill. That is a flat out lie. We voted for Obama especially because we DO wnat it.

I have had three separate "opinion poll" calls on my home phone. All three were worded in such a way that almost required that I answer "No" (that I don't want health care reform that will jeapardize my future and the tuture of America).

Thank you for offering this forum

Ann-Virginia   March 22nd, 2010 12:44 am ET

to:Pam,you have been listening to the lies & misinformation put out there to keep you from being the least bit in favor of this bill.Why do think the Ins.industry was so opposed to this bill??A good guess would be that it would make the Ins.industry accountable to it's clients(which they aren't now).Stop listening to everyone who's agenda is just to take Obama down & research the facts,then you will change the way you feel or at least be more informed.

RickFromDetroit   March 22nd, 2010 12:52 am ET

I haven't heard "Baby Killer" since I left Viet Nam 35 years ago.

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 12:55 am ET

I did not see the gentleman sitting beside Wasserman rolling his eyes, shaking his head and saying "No, it didn't" or "no" this or that while she was speaking. She was rude; if you watch politicians sit side by side on Meet the Press and other programs, you will notice most have the professional courtesy and political savvy not to do that. What is sad about people like you is you never concede a point to anyone who has a different opinion than you. How much intelligence does that take. I am not as ugly as you so I will not tell you to SHUTUP! Besides, I don't really want you to; you're make me laugh.

Judy   March 22nd, 2010 12:55 am ET

Boy, this is great. Thank you CNN for your coverage of this historic event. I'm not crazy about this bill or how it was put together but it's a start. I don't think the Republicans lost. I think, in the long run, everyone won.

Ms Lee   March 22nd, 2010 12:56 am ET

You know, I am increasingly sickened by the republicans and their actions (yelling out 'you lie', calling a senator the N word, now yelling out babykiller). They are so determined to defeat this president that they are becoming extremely immature and reckless. I ask this question to ANY republican willing to answer.... WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE LAST SITTING PRESIDENT SENT THOUSANDS OF OUR MILITARY SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN TO THEIR DEATHS IN WAR BASED ON A HUNCH? WHERE BILLIONS OF OUR DOLLARS WERE SPENT IN A COUNTRY WHO COULD GIVE 2 CRAPS ABOUT US?WHERE WERE THE TEAPARTIES, AND THE DISRUPTIONS AND POLITICAL OUTCRY THEN??? I am certainly concerned about the cost of this bill... I'm one of the millions of taxpayers who pays into a Medicare system that wont be around for me to use. I am also self employed as a Realtor, just turned 30 and my health insurance is almost $400 a month!!! And I have no health problems...not a smoker, etc.... So I am happy to see this bill come to pass... I will pay taxes one way or the other, so i'm estatic to know that some of my dollars will actually go toward US, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! Perhaps if we hadnt spent so much money in Iraq, we would have money to take care of our own.

Henya, Ca   March 22nd, 2010 12:57 am ET

Thank you President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and the democrats in Congress job well done, and let the Repobli-CON to continue shooting themselves in the foot they are all idiots,

dENIS   March 22nd, 2010 12:59 am ET

I have to say that I am a conservative.

As a conservative ,I am really having a hardtime understanding the philosophical /logical/ and ethical contradictions of some of these Teaparty proposals /affirmations/beliefs.

I would like your help to help me understand.

As a conservative I believe in the doctrine of Sin.

This means I believe that man is imperfect, makes mistakes, and sinned ( Apple from Eve) , because of this, our institutions and traditions are very important. ...

Why are our institutions important?

Because they represent a nations wisdom /cumulative knowledge /experience passed on from one generation to another.

This is much like a father /mother pass on their advise to their children....

The most important institution for me as a conservative and a christian is the family.

A strong America can only exist if the American families are strong.

You cannot have a strong house/home if the bricks are weak.

The family is the basic unit of a nation.

So, a nation were millions of americans do not have healthcare means a weak nation!

One example :

If if a disease /epidemic breaks out, millions that do not have insurance could spread infection and this is a security threat to all America and all American families.

If Americans are dropped by insurance companies , this hurts and weakens the family and thus hurts and weakens all America.

I can give many other examples to support this point but I think you understand what I have problem with this...

I also have problem as a Christian...

You see the bible is clear on this. The Good Samaritan.

Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

If we follow this, then we need to love all our fellow Americans in their time of need .

I think this means Jesus would want us as individuals and as a society to ensure that all of our injured, sick, ...have access to quality , affordable healthcare.

To do other wise is to walk past . close your eyes, ignore your neighbour that is in need!

I believe in constitution :

-All men are created equal
-right to life , liberty and pusuit of happiness...

All citizens must have the same "equal right to Life"
Life was put first (before liberty )for a reason.

These are the 2 most important elements in the constitution.

No life, no equality -> all the rest is meaningless...

So since Life is directly connected to health, how can anyone block public healthcare ?

It would be like blocking some citizens right to life!

Many cannot afford insurance , many do not have insurance, many cannot get certain treatments because insurance will not this creates inequality with respect to right to life!

As a soldier I would never let an injured member of my platoon down.

Why would I let a fellow citizen that is sick down?

How can Americans fight and give ones life for Human Rights in other countries and yet not stand up for the right for all Americans to have the basic right to healthcare?

I do not want to be disrespectful. I am merely seeking to understand how you can be Christian, soldier. patriot, and ignore these things?

To have a strong America you need to have certain basics in America to create equal opportunity for all.

Every child should have good education. healthcare, and basics like food, shelter and clothing along with good values( spirit of community ) .

To achieve this the state /government of the people, should guarantee the basics.

If you want more, then work hard , make money and pay for the extras!

So if a child is you are born of a poor , or orphant it will still have equal opportunity, skills/education to suceed in life.

Then this child cannot have any excuse ...

As things are now, there is no equality!

The rich can send their kids to best schools while many poor cannot even afford to send their children to the dentist!

How can we help these Multinational and Wall Street companies that caused the economic crisis with corporate welfare and yet not help the American middleclass and Americans poor?

These multinationals (pharmacetical companies included) are blocking healthcare.

They are the same multinationals that build their fortunes in America and then took the jobs to other countries so they can exploit children and their poor!

They are telling us not to allocate money to americans, but they grabbed ll the money when they were about to go bankrupt!

They give money and manipulate Christian Groups .

Now they are giving money and manipulating Teaparty Groups!

All this for power .

They are sabotaging our democracies and spinning a web of lies trying to pit Americans against Americans with their spin doctors and ads, and money !!

They divide Americans and pit Americans against Americans !

These companies lost Trillions of Americans hard earned money!!!

Later they begged and asked for over a Trillion Dollars from Americans to bail them out!!!

They were not worried then about putting our nation into debt!!!!

Now all of a sudden they are quick to scream that we cannot afford public healthcare because it costs too much.....

Do not forget thatt the middleclass bailed these multinationals and yet these same multinationals that were bailed out by the American taxpayer were throwing Americans out of their homes because they could not pay their mortgages !!!!!

The American Taxpayers bailed these Multinationals from a crisis these multinationals created!!!!

These same multinationals were seizing the homes of the very people that were bailing them out!!!!

As a Christian , life is sacred.

This mean the fetus and the living! I cannot let my fellow neighbour die and so cannot stand against public healthcare. Poverty leads to weakend family.

Weak families lead to degrading families, degrading familes lead to degrading family values,.

Degrading families and degrading family values lead to increased ...

Suicides, increase in abortions, divorces, children out of wedlock, abandoned children, single familes, .....

This will lead to the deterioration of American society.

So in conclusion, you now know why I have real difficulty understanding how any American can sabotage public healthcare!

All Americans can only be equal if they all have same Rights!

Right to Healthcare is a Human Right!

You cannot have equal right to life if you do not have equal right to healthcare!!!

JSOBlog   March 22nd, 2010 12:59 am ET

I'm happy people called the right "REPUGNANT-CAN"

Jonie   March 22nd, 2010 1:01 am ET

I am so sick and tired of hearing republicans saying what the american people don't wont. I am an american who happen to have health insurance for now, but would like to see all americans with health insurance. It should be a right just as voting. I say for all those who are against health care should lose there coverage. How say they then.

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 1:04 am ET

And someone so brilliantly labeled the left DemoncRATS recently. Gotta love all of them.

Donald L Allen   March 22nd, 2010 1:09 am ET

it don't need to be a question I no they rely did not get the American people to voy age aint there solv It A Lie it not true you no it so do I if they want to pass a bile way don,t they do Ansley what do you think you think I wood give my right to them ether way you I no if I get a tick and than I go to a cuter than they well take my driven right away see I already been under gov care they wood have took my driving privately away if I had not ween to a daughter and I think there a joke right don,t you think so it a fit I wood not miss see you Larry the King PS see you it A deal between the doter and the US you can see as plan as day but it not gonna work with me Donald L Allen they don,t need to be in cgarg of you or me we need to runn or own live,s

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 1:15 am ET

@Jonie, I think a lot of people are confused. Most Americans do want healthcare reform. Only about 45% of Americans support this bill, with the remaining 55% not supporting it. That's just a fact with all polls showing basically the same.

Brian P   March 22nd, 2010 1:25 am ET

I am an Independent, to declare my affiliation right up front here.

Why is that the Republicans keep using the term "the American people...did not want this", "the American people are angry", "the American people are going to replace those who voted for Health Care.." THEY don't want this, THEM. They are not "the American people" and they surely do not speak for all of us.

Personally I think the Republicans are only making a ruckus about this because after a embarrassing loss for the Presidency, they are now being marginalized in the worst way by the DEMS.

They had their chance to fix health care instead they started a war, mismanaged and pillaged the government, ran up the deficit to historic proportions AND gave billions of our money away to wealthy bankers to fix the mess your bad Republican policies started.

I say this bill is redemption in the sweetest way. We the People finally get something that helps US.

Next stop....JOBS.

Dennis   March 22nd, 2010 1:26 am ET

I am opposed to this legislation. I am not opposed to some of the features of the bill, however, any bill that is crafted behind closed doors and must have special deals and arm twisting to get passed is WRONG!. Any good bill should be able to stand up to debate, be able to be easily explained to the public, and have ALL the players at the table to determine the best way to do health care reform. The process used in this instance has created a divide among the Ds & Rs and the American public that will take years to heal. The pendulum always swings and when it does, I can only hope that the Rs will not strong arm the Ds in the same manner because all the people that like this bill will be just as incensed as those that oppose it are now. Reasonable people should be able to sit across the table and decide how to reduce health care costs most efficiently. There were no doctors at the table. There were no representative from the pharms, or medical supply industry nor the insurance industry as well as any Republican at the table. Is this the way that everyone wants to have bills created? Do you really believe that this is the best that a coalition would have created? Stop being so angry at the other side and come together as a nation and then cooperatively work for the right solutions.

Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 1:31 am ET

@Brian P,
I, too, am in independent. If you look at any of the polls, more than half of the Americans are opposed to this particular bill. So it's not just something Republicans are saying. And, of course, barely a fourth of the country is Republican; thus, more than 50% certainly represents far more than just Republicans. I assume you know that almost all of the banks have paid back the money with very healthy interest. You don't really sound like an independent.

Cindy   March 22nd, 2010 1:49 am ET

It was said tonight that the state of California will need another $3 billion or so to cover the Medicaid enrollees the healthcare bill will send their way. I live in California and as everyone knows, the state is broke. Where will they get the additional billions? Increase taxes which are already some of the highest in the nation?

Theresa   March 22nd, 2010 2:09 am ET

I as a Canadian am very glad that my neighbour to the south has @ least made the 1st step to help their fellow citizens. i hope soon there will be noone denied healthcare because of preexisting conditins or lose their home because of exorbitant health care costs & ins. premiums. You should be very proud of your Pres. ,,,that he didn't give up the ship with all the naysayers. I remember watching the health care town hall meetings lasst summer. It saddened me to watch citizens of the same country , spew hatred towards each other. To me the Republicans & Tea Party movement participants used scare tactics, hate ,& racism to attempt to get their message out.March 21st proved the party of NO was not in the majority.

Donald L Allen   March 22nd, 2010 2:10 am ET

Donald L Allen well I,M saying it not the right of the house to adopt what I share over the net worth or Internet that is what I mean and if there on my side there gonna have a hard time proving it I still think there a joke and I do not Believe them PS my business witch has never got off it feet problem never well with the congress and I,M telling you there not ON my side and I,M no foul see you Larry Be good

Yakini   March 22nd, 2010 2:34 am ET

Abuse of power? Secret deals? Have Fox News and the far Right forgotten how Republicans get things done in Washington. They are the biggest hypocrites ever created. Our great President Obama tried to appease you all for too long and was losing in base in trying to do so. I am glad that he finally realized that it was personal and NOTHING he does will satisfy you. You want your country back from the black man (the one you stole from the Indians) and until you get it back to conduct your own abuse of power and secret deals, you are going to carry on like a 2 year old. Wake up and grow up! I am not pleased with this Bill, it does NOT go far enough! I work for my County government and have pretty decent insurance but you know what, many others do not. They are my fellow human beings so I care about them! So I am glad that President Obama took this first step. THAT IS WHY WE VOTED FOR HIM. TO DO JUST THIS SO YES ... HE IS LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. He won the election promising to sign an even bigger bill. Why are you now saying we do not wan this? Why are you surprised that MOST Americans (maybe not the "real Americans) voted for him despite his promise to fix our awful health care system and he is doing it? How often does a politician keep his or her promises? Be glad this MAN brought dignity, respect, and honor back to these here United States of America and learn some love, tolerance and care for your neighbors.

On the abortion issue, I would like to get this off my chest!
Republicans says they are Pro-life. But what that appears to mean is that they are “pro Pre-Birth”. Once that child is born, they could care less about that child's life! It makes no sense to me. They argue day in and day out that they believe in the "right to life" but think about it: only women who DO NOT want to have children consider abortions, if you take out the young teens whose parents insist on one because they would be caring for that baby and not the teen mom... But I digress. Women who plan to raise a baby and love it do not consider abortions. That means only those who do NOT want to be a mother considers this procedure. Are you saying that she should have the baby because some tissues growing inside of her body has a right to life and what she does with it after it is born is of no concern to you? Have you looked at the amount of children in foster homes and on the streets? Of course you do, right before you cut the "social programs" that fund the roof over their heads and put food in their mouths. You are the Party of "tiny government and no welfare/social programs" aren't you? Aren't these the programs that take care of these fetuses that you insisted become babies, then homeless unwanted children? Before you speak again on the issue of what a woman does with her body: Ask yourself these question: 1) Have you ever engaged in unprotected sexual activity; 2) Have you ever experienced a broken condom or otherwise failed BC method; 3) Have you ever been raped and became pregnant as a result of that rape; 4) Has your relationship that you counted on ended shortly after you discovered you were pregnant and you know you cannot do it alone; and 5) How many adopted or foster children do I (yeah, YOU!) now have or plan to have in MY HOME to lessen the burden on the social programs that care for them and to which my Party is vehemently opposed? I am a woman who had an abortion in college. I am now single mom. I am a professional with a graduate degree not currently in need of the typical social programs’ assistance. That could change at any minute! I had a child when I knew I could be a good parent. My child is my world. This is not because of anyone, any questionable principle from any questionable religious books, or from anything outside of me doing what is best for me! How dare you interfere in a woman’s life this way! The average woman does not use abortion as a birth control method no more than the average Republican male engages in the homosexual behavior that he preaches against. When you deny a woman a right to an abortion, you hurt the women listed above. Most of all, you hurt the children that you help bring into this world unwanted, unloved, raped in shelters and foster homes, and on whom you feel the Democrats want to spend spend spend. You cannot just be Pro-life while the cells and embryo are growing. You must be Pro-Life once that child is born and without a home. To cut and preach against the programs that feed and house that child only re-iterates the notion that Republicans are hypocrites. Are you Pro-Life or only Pro Pre-Birth? Forget about when life begins: When do you bow out of “the best interest of the child”?

A. Smith, Oregon   March 22nd, 2010 2:44 am ET

I recall in the short term of 4-5 years or so that the Federal Govt. would reimburse States 100% of the extra costs to States for the additional Medicaid enrollments as a result of America's Health Care bill. White House Press Secretary Gibbs mentioned this yesterday, I'm sure he'll mention this again and again as Republicans are often hard of hearing.

lyle m   March 22nd, 2010 3:08 am ET

The cost issue is a red herring. The $940 billion will come from Americans and will be paid to Americans who will be taxed and will purchase goods and services from other Americans. The pile of money will stay the same. This could create an economic explosion unlike the 'trickle down' system. Money that is made available to the population base will 'rocket up' to the top through the hands of the most effective and intuitive service providers.

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 22nd, 2010 3:53 am ET


Like you, I watched it live since it is morning for us..
I was excited just like you Americans.
Glad that it got passed for the benefit of all especialy the 32 million ununinsured.
That's a staggering amount for a wealthy country like yours.
The passing of the bill validates President Obama since he's got a lot of stake hinging on the bill.
I like the part when he said this is the change you like to see.
I hope after this, his rating will go up.
Americans have realised this dream. Kudos.
Ted Kennedy is smiling in his grave, I presume..

Cajazz76:24:8   March 22nd, 2010 4:42 am ET

Idzan Ismail

So appreciative we should be to know that, like you, there are those who see what so many in this country cannot.

I always like reading your comments. You're so correct in seeing that we spend so much on bombs and bullets and cannot afford a few Band-aids for our ailing citizen's.

You may have read that China spends a little less than 10% to protect themselves from the world, about $68 billion, as opposed to our $682 billion, that we spend.

We spend about the same as China to protect ourselves from ourselves, $68 billion, to keep 2.3 million of our citizen's in prison. We are a nation of 308 million people, whereas China has a population of 1.4 billion, yet they imprison only about 1.7 million of their citizens.

We all make error's in judgement and mistake's in our lives, Teddy Kennedy has made his, but he was a champion for the people. This bill should carry his name attached to it somehow, because it was his baby, so to speak.

As for the President so many just call Obama, he is my President, and the best I can remember, and I have seen plenty come and go.

We are still a nation of racial and religious bias, both we would do best without.

There is no perfect system anywhere and this political garbage we have to view from our elected officials certainly makes us look below Third World status.

It is just another form of blind bias, something on the order of a sports team rivalry. But in their game when cooperation, communication, and mutual respect should be common place, we see what is common on a school playground, childish behavior.

I want to thank for being on the outside and looking in, so many in this country need to know how the rest of the world sees us. By you giving us your views, it may encourage some to change theirs and do the correct thing.

My best to you Idzan...please continue to do exactly what you have so freely done for us..allow us to see ourselves through your eyes..

Serge Borel, Geneva   March 22nd, 2010 5:58 am ET

Congratulations and welcome to civilized world at last, USA!

Apple   March 22nd, 2010 7:41 am ET

Larry, WE WANT HC Reform. Congrats President Obama and America!!

I have never taken a poll. My family is big and have not taken one either so how can they say most Americans do not want it? Propoganda!

Apple   March 22nd, 2010 7:53 am ET

For YEARS, blacks have voted and supported white politicians and presidents.

For ONCE a black man wins the presidency and yet so many white people still fight against him. This means that they are fighting us blacks!

Many refuse to acknowledge it but they are giving him such a hard time because he is B**L**A**C**K but face it, he has already made history and that you cannot take back. Even if he fails, he will make history again.

Am glad that HC bill has been passed. America needs it!

eJay   March 22nd, 2010 8:00 am ET

It's about time the U.S. catch up with the rest of the world, it time to stop denying people coverage, and denying people with pre exsisting conditions. it seems that the Republicans only care about lining the pockets of Insurance executives and themselves.

DR GARY   March 22nd, 2010 8:58 am ET

The majority of the democraps (I did spell it right.) took a major step as one commentator said, “shereading the Construction.” Muslim, Husain said in his speech to the nation. “We proved that we are still a people capable of doing big things and tacking big challenges.” Muslim Husain left out one line, “and moving closer toward destroying America’s foundation., I put Husain and Panokio (oops, Pelosi) on the same level as Hitler and Castro. Same mentality and moving toward the same direction. They do not care about what the Americans want. Those are BIG DEMONS that they operate under. THINK ABOUT THIS. IF THE health care reform plan IS SO great, WHY DOES IT EXEMPT, Michelle, Congress, Senators and their families? See PAGE 114 LINE 22. IN MOST CASES, it’s going to be the same people who have no health care FOR GENERATIONS. YOU CAN’T DRAIN BLOOD OUT OF A TURNIP. Most are, “GENERATIONAL WELFARE FAMILIES.” THEY’LL BE PUMPING OUT MORE BABIES BY THE MULTITUDE AND WE’LL PAY FOR THEIR ABORTIONS. The Grandma’s will get board. They won’t be raising them while they go out to reproduce. (Meow) The Middle Class Americans will be taxed eventually to pay. Muslim Husain needs to be Impeached and Nancy Panokio removed. THE ONE GOOD THING THAT WILL COME FORM THIS. It will be a long, long time before another democrap is elected as president. WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT. God’s Word says,

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 22nd, 2010 9:09 am ET


Thanks so much.
I learn a lot from you and all the bloggers on LKL.
I love going to this blog because everyone have their own views but at the same time respect other opinions.
I also love to share my views in the NY Times, Washpo and Chicago Tribune.
My interest in American politics was re-ignited when Bill Clinton came to power.
When JF Kennedy was shot, I was in elementary school. But my dad made me read the story in the papers since our country did not have TV then.
Later he bought us Grolier encyclopaedia - the Book of Knowledge which is all about America.
Though we were taught English the British way since we were once England's colony, I try to write to write Americanized English to communicate with you guys.
(Note the Z instead of the S spelling for civilisation).

CANADIAN   March 22nd, 2010 11:37 am ET

I am happy for my friends across the border that the bill got passed...and won't get denied for help for pre-exiting conditions...which was sooooo begin one will be refused we are not refused in Canada........

James Jones   March 22nd, 2010 11:40 am ET

To whom it may concern,
My name is James. I am 38 years old. I have a 4.0 GPA in IT after two years of collage online! I have a few thoughts and questions.

I think it is sad that Republican representatives act as if they “can be” the only people on this Earth to think things through.
I think it is sad that the only solid arguments they have is “what will my position be on Election Day?"
I think it is Socialist to stand in the way of the country as a whole in making important decisions.
I think it is sad that lies and semantics controlled the Republicans entire debate over healthcare. I think it’s sad.
Do you?
Is it Socialist to lie to the public as a member of our Government?
Were the people in those town halls paid to stand up and shout to totally drown out the purpose of the meeting?
What are the facts?
Is it Socialist?
Is it Socialist to mislead the public to the point of fear to save your own Social status and vote?
What are the actual facts?
The example about Canada and their citizens coming to America was exactly the wrong thing to do. Do most Republicans think that Canada has as many people in their country as in the US? Is that statistic they used a small fallacy or false statistic used to make it look a different way? Was that semantics?
What is Canada’s population compared to the US? How many doctors are in the smaller population?
Do the Republicans have a point at all other than lies?
Does Boehner look like a criminal? He looks like he is hiding something to me. Why do I feel this way? Is he Honest?
Is their hope at all anymore?
I wanted to register to vote this year. Why have I “never” trusted politics? Why does it look like “Greed” controls the Republican party?

A concerned student of life and South University Online in Savannah Georgia

Gerald Jolly   March 22nd, 2010 12:15 pm ET

@ Dr.??? Gary

Yes you got that right!

Dr. of what??

Is'nt it a prerequisite that a doctor should know how to spell easy words.???

AHHHHHHH! I got it, you're one of those PREACHING Doctors Hu!

Did you get your degree out of a POPCORN BOX or a CORNY FLAKES BOX???

Do you talk to GOD everyday, just like George the Bushwacker used too.???


Are you familiar with the word "PARASITE"??

Cajazz76:24:8   March 22nd, 2010 12:20 pm ET

@Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur,

You never fail to impress with your knowledge and insight. There is a whole group in our Legislature and Senate that would benefit immensely from a set of Grolier's. Many would do well, just to read the morning newspaper's or these blogs.

I have gathered from watching and listening to some of them, that most of the information they obtain to cast their votes comes from either CNN or Fox News, depending on their party affiliation. How odd is that?

But, as i have aforementioned and possibly undermentioned, it's our way of government and we have to protect it while, at the same time, we are free to criticize it. That's the enchantment of a democracy with a constitution that starts with "We the people" and addresses our freedoms first, instead of how we will be adjudicated.

Not a perfect system, by no means, however it has been doing as it was designed.

Now about that 'zed'. It has always puzzled me because if our z to them is zed, then how do you say zoo? Would that make it zedoo?

Mary   March 22nd, 2010 12:26 pm ET

Shasta for those dotcors that want to bailout ..well MOST OTHER



Gerald Jolly   March 22nd, 2010 12:27 pm ET

Just imagine folks.

If George the Bushwacker had not of squandered more than a $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Trillion dollars on a war that was based completely on lies, the cost of universal health care for every American Citizen would not even be an issue.

Just imagine folks.

If George the Bushwacker had of initiated tighter restriction on banks and Insurance providers, and lending institutions, as the Democrats and the majority of the American public begged him to do, the $867 billion dollars of bailout money that the American taxpayer has been burdenned with, would not have been necessary.

Just imagine Folks.

If George the Bushwacker, had of kept his eye on the Ball in Afghanistan, Bin Laden would be dead now, and we would not be required to spend $ 8 billion dollars a month, and risking the lives of hundreds or perhaps thousand of younf American lives.



Veronica   March 22nd, 2010 12:46 pm ET






Cajazz76:24:8   March 22nd, 2010 12:56 pm ET

Serge Borel, Geneva

Your one-liner may have skipped passed some, but I know exactly where your coming from.

Many of the countries in Europe have had a leg up on health care decades ahead of us. We do appear Neanderthal, when you look how advanced we are in the methods of destruction, with the price tag to match.

If we could rewind our clocks and come to the realization that fighting for peace is a radical concept that makes very little sense, the entries into this country would have been gilded in gold, rather than adorned with battleships.

That should be a priority for us to reduce those expenditures and use the taxpayer's funds much more wisely. It seems the paranoia that we are under siege because of our freedoms or ideals is beyond the galaxy in reality.

We must stop pretending we are Joe the cop and turn our noses closer to our derrières to find the smell that causes the distaste in the world for our brand of stew.

CHM   March 22nd, 2010 1:40 pm ET

@Serge Borel, Geneva

You said, "welcome to the civilized world"

Yes, perhaps now that you are no longer hiding the billions of tax-free dollars of some of our citizens, we will have the money to become a little more civilized. While some Americans are eager to criticize us to our neighbors around the world, I think it is important to note that none is exactly pristine.

Dodie   March 22nd, 2010 3:16 pm ET

@ RickFromDetroit

I am so sorry. The American public was horrendous in how the Vietnam Vets were treated when coming back to the US. I was enraged then and still very irritated even to this day. You were willing to give the ultimate sacrifice. No one has any conception of what it is like to fight in a war without being there. You do whatever it takes to survive and then painfully live with that knowledge for the rest of your life. Words cannot change what has happened; however, I want you to know there are people out there that have some compassion and do care.

Gerald Jolly   March 22nd, 2010 5:35 pm ET

I have been doing volunteer work with the Alcohol and Drug rehab center in my city for the past several years.

I do not profess to be an expert on the subject of Alcoholism, but I have witnessed many cases of serious alcoholism, and the one trait that is identifiable in most alcoholic patients is the pronounced redness on their faces.

I would be willing to bet my last bottom dollars that "JOHN BOHNER" is a chronic alcoholic, so addicted to the bottle that he cannot go a day without consuming large quantities of alcohol.

Now I ask the question: How is it possible for a person under the influence of alcohol to be able to render any kind of sensible resolution to any kind of a problem that would require a person to be sober when he/she was being asked to do so.

I will stand behind my opinion and would ask the bloggers on this format to voice their opinion based on the very last photo of him when he addressed the house last evening.



Was he drunk last night when he ranted about the health care bill, in your opinion folks.

Dodie   March 22nd, 2010 7:00 pm ET

@Gerald Jolly

You are correct. The red face and large pores on the swollen nose comes from the liver unable to process and everything in the system is backing up. Alcohol isTHE MOST TOXIC DRUG KNOWN TO MAN!!!!! It attacks everything... all organs including the bloody brain. One would think................. the US would make alcohol illegal and Cannabis legal. Possibly due to problems with taxation..


@ Cajazz76:24:8

"Lucifer of Illiteracy"? Very witty and cute! I will have to add that with so many others from your blogs to my now named "Cajazz dictionary" of terms and short quotes!

Gerald Jolly   March 22nd, 2010 8:04 pm ET

John Boehner Ohio, arrest record for D.U.I. in the early 80's has been expunged because it is more than 20 years old.


Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 22nd, 2010 8:45 pm ET


Yep I agree with you on the z letter. To you its zee, to the Brits its zed. Another word worth pondering is bosun. The English spelling is boatswain but it is pronounced bosun.
I much prefer the Americanized spelling. It's easier for learners of the English language.

Bill Petitt   March 22nd, 2010 9:37 pm ET

I thought Stupak was the John Wayne/ Clint Eastwood of the White House. I was wrong, he caved.

Cajazz76:24:8   March 22nd, 2010 10:16 pm ET

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur,

I had to get a tease thrown your way with the zed. My daughter who is an editor for Viva and Decor magazines in Amman, Jordan had to learn the British enunciation and writing styles.

I would like for you to go on YouTube and search "Its an IPod' ...a funny segment from 99.6FM radio in Amman. It's a funny parody between a friend of my daughter's, the DJ, and a winner of a giveaway program..Enjoy it. You'll see quite quickly how difficult language barrier's can be..Tell me how you like it. Keep up the steady stream of blogging...later. cajazz..

Serge Borel, Geneva   March 23rd, 2010 7:48 am ET

Our banks are still hiding billions of $, the ones that aren't hidden on the virgin's, the cayman's, in singapore, in delaware. and I'm not particularly proud of swiss bank's behaviour. But I guess the first ones to be blamed are those (not the poorest by the way.. the richer you get the greedier you become apparently) who try and succeed in not contributing to society by refusing to correctly pay their taxes... wherever they live.
My point on health care is that I just cannot believe that some representatives (still) call this bill (the one that just passed is a very soft one anyway) soviet-style socialism.. It is not a question of socialism, it's a matter of solidarity. But for all the people who call this socialism, solidarity seems to be very low on the totem pole.

Ted   March 23rd, 2010 10:13 am ET

@ Serge Borel

As long as the swiss banks do not aid with tax fraud they cannot be made responsible for the tay evasion practiced by tens of thousands of americans. You take the monies offered to you, however, if you give advise on how to cheat, you are commiting a crime.
I bet your sweet life that quite a few of our politicians have money hidden off shore or in other tax havens.

Serge Borel, Geneva   March 23rd, 2010 1:41 pm ET

@ Ted

You're absolutely right. Banks who advise their clients on how to cheat are dealing with stolen goods. But even accepting money without knowing exactly where it comes from and whether it's "white money" or not is far from being "elegant". The swiss government is actually working on a plan on how to weaken or hopefully abolish bank secret. I doubt that it's going to be for tomorrow though. Financial institutes have tremendous power in this country and I believe it's not going to be very different in the US. And as long as other tax heavens practice the same way swiss banks do, it will give them and certain parts of our government the perfect excuse to try letting things the way they are. As to politicians hiding money... if only it was "just" money they're hiding...!

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Larry King's King of Hearts

Saving a heart a day is the goal! Learn more about the Foundation and it's efforts to help the uninsured

Visit the Larry King Cardiac Foundation.

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