March 9, 2010

ICYMI: Ventura Vs. The Tea Party

Posted: 04:32 PM ET
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bweaver   March 9th, 2010 4:59 pm ET

Jesse Ventura is so right. Dems and Republicans are crippling our country by following party lines. Republicans just will not give credit where credit is due. Congress is sick. Respect our President whether you are of either party. Saying no to everything is counter productive.
They better get off their happy butts and start getting some things done or it will be pretty lucrative to run as an independent. The cost to those of us that have health ins to cover the uninsured has become a heavy burden. The uninsured should have to pay something even if they are getting welfare, unemployment or any other form of compensation. They take medicare premiums right out of social security check. All of these are funded at the working mans expense so they can buy top shelf steak and not worry about health care.

Rose   March 9th, 2010 5:57 pm ET

Go Jesse! Say it like it is. Ventura was awarded the National Defense Service Medal and the Vietnam Service Medal. I agree with Ventura when he said he had no respect for Dick Cheney because he is "a guy who got 5 deferments from the Vietnam War. Clearly, he's a coward. He wouldn't go when it was his time to go". Ventura has spoken up against torture as being ineffective.

His comments about the Tea Party are accurate. They claim to defend the Constitution (what a joke). Yet where were they when 'habeas corpus' was being taken away. In the US, an American can be arrested, held without charge and denied an attorney. All that has to be said is: the accused committed an act of terrorism (without firm evidence). These are far more serious issues than the Tea Party's sorry agenda of creating ridiculous fears about socialism.

He said this about Palin:

"If she is (a part of the Tea Party), then I won’t be a part of it. She’s a quitter, you make a commitment to the voters when you tell them you want to be Governor…you don’t quit halfway through to go reap profits and make millions of dollars. That’s what she did."

Right on Jesse!

Rose   March 9th, 2010 7:01 pm ET

Tea Party-er Palin admitted last Saturday to Canadians in Calgary, Alberta that her family used the Canadian health system when she was a child. They went over the Alaska border to Whitehorse, Yukon in Canada where facilities were available. Palin is a critic of the Canadian health system, saying it should be dismantled (!)

Perhaps Palin quietly pondered if the "evil socialist" Canadian health care system has true merits such as treating anyone regardless of ability to pay, regardless of cost of procedure. Perhaps she was too busy laughing at the Canadians who paid her a substantial fee to speak. Perhaps she was thankful her family escaped any potential Canadian socialized medicine "death panels" in Yukon and fled back to Alaska safe and sound. Whew! The hypocrisy and irony continues.

A. Smith, Oregon   March 9th, 2010 7:08 pm ET

@ Rose, well said.

The Tea Party appears to be entirely happy with the American Freedom stripping series of laws known as The Patriot Act. Which strips away protection so numerous Govt. agency's can now:

Wiretap peoples homes without warrants or cause.
Wiretap public conversations in America's library's.
Wiretap cells phones without warrants or cause.
Read private emails and texts without warrants or cause.
Enter and search private homes without warrants or cause.
Download your computer files without warrant or cause.
Read private banking information without warrants or cause.
Perform biometric readings on your drivers photo without warrant or cause.
Track your personal movements thru your cell phone's location without warrants or cause.

Maggie   March 9th, 2010 7:35 pm ET

Posting after the fact I know, but I like what Jesse said about time to change the way things work in this country. The good of the country MUST come first for all national office holders, just as the state MUST come first for all state level leaders. This has got to change, or I don't think we will make it as a civilization.

Gerald Jolly   March 9th, 2010 7:37 pm ET

My reason for disliking the tea party so much is that they only offer black tea and no green tea,

The same as they only offer the same old same old and not one new creative idea.

They really punk me out.

I suggest that everyone consider the garbage they are spewing when DUNKING YOU BLACK TEABAG.

Rose   March 9th, 2010 7:59 pm ET

@ A. Smith

Exactly. The Tea Party is throwing around words such socialism, communism, marxism, patriotism (or Hate-riotism as I call it) all to "take back our country". They should instead reconsider why they support the LOSS of our rights – which is an actual "fact" instead of socialism fairy tales.

Let's contribute to their scare-bucket and toss in the concept that what Tea Baggers support is actually similar to a Police State. This means control may be exerted upon citizens outside the boundaries normally imposed by a Constitutional State. Losing our right to representation (habeas corpus) for starters. Losing our civil rights, privacy rights.

A police state? An exaggeration of course? Not any more than claiming universal health care will usher in the next Great Red Scare – except that elements of a police state do exist in the US.

TED TROUTMAN   March 9th, 2010 9:16 pm ET


John H   March 9th, 2010 11:56 pm ET

@Rose...As a Vietnam Veteran, I remember well the old cry of "Tell It Like It Is!" Problem is that normally what it really resulted in is Tell It Like I See It or Tell It Like I Believe It To Be. Of course, we can always go back to the well know argument of it all depends upon what "is" "is." Ten people standing on seperate corners of an intersection are witnesses to an accident. Each one has a different view of what actually happened. Has anyone actually seen all that occured and knows with certainty what caused the accident? I like Jesse Ventura and he has always been a straight shooter in my view but that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with everything he says. You mention some of the name calling that is so much in vogue such as Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Facist, Liar, Crook, Thief, etc. but from where I stand, some of those accusations also rub off on you. I am not a Tea Party Member and have never attended one of their meetings or demonstrations but I refuse to simply write them off as a group of crazies. That may be the way you see them since they apparently espouse viewpoints that are in opposition to your own but before you thrown around such allegations, you would do well to look at youself in the mirror. I know, A. Smith gave you an Atta Girl and a well said but while A. Smith has shown a deep knowledge of just about every subject under the sun, it doesn't mean he is always right. What many of you are doing on this blog is indulging in a Mutual Admiration Society where birds of a feather all flock together and thrive on the verbal Pats on the Back that makes you all feel so self rightous and all knowing. Sorry but that is my opinion and I suppose I am welcome to it.

Kat   March 10th, 2010 1:51 pm ET

These politicians who are now resigning had already planned to IF the black Pres O won the presidency. They could not have just walked out right after he won because it would have been too obvious so they waited awhile. They made sure that they made enough mess and caused enough delay to get him to fail before resigning. Soem of you people make me want to SICK!! RACIST! None of them wants to admit it but we know that many are agaisnt him this much becaus eof his skin shade. I would suggest that you stop burning yourself in the sun if you have such an problem with our skin tone. It is ok for black men to die in Iraq and Afghan but not ok for them to be president? McCain acts as if the presidency is owed to him. At least he lived to tell the bloody tale. Many of our black young men died! Heard that McCain, they died so stop fighting Obama and do what is best for America's healthcare. You are not running the country, Pres O is! You all had your chance and you screwed it along with the mistresses!!

alaenart   March 10th, 2010 2:03 pm ET

thank you to A KING with a big HEART again thank you for what you did for HAITI Larry may GOD bless you always

Rose   March 10th, 2010 2:44 pm ET

@ John H

I don't throw around "allegations". Look at Tea Party demonstration photos and videos and the words (socialism etc) I noted in my previous posts are held up by Tea Party supporters. No one contends that blogs are "pats on backs" – rather if a person agrees with a post, they can state it and if a person does not agree with a post (such as you) can also state it.

The racist portrayals of Pres. Obama at Tea Party events is unacceptable. That particular group does indeed have it's share of "crazies". Their support of Palin (to me and many others) displays a very strong weakness. Others are free to disagree. You can find far more "birds of a feather" as you stated within that group. Rather than commenting on "mutual admiration society" I suggest you direct remarks to the merits or demerits of statements made.

Rose   March 10th, 2010 3:07 pm ET

@ John H

Any group that promotes racism today in America has major problems. The opening night speaker at the Tea Party convention recently suggested a return to a "literacy test" to protect America from presidents like Obama – a segregation-era method employed by southern US states to keep blacks from voting.

Former Republican congressman Tom Tancredo invoked the loaded pre-civil rights era buzzword, saying that President Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country." Southern states used literacy tests as part of an effort to deny suffrage to African American voters prior to Johnson-era civil rights laws.

Prior to passage of the federal Voting Rights Act in 1965, Southern (and some Western) states maintained elaborate voter registration procedures whose primary purpose was to deny the vote to those who were not white. In the South, this process was often called the 'literacy test.' In fact, it was much more than a simple test, it was an entire complex system devoted to denying African-Americans (and in some regions, Latinos) the right to vote.

To hear this in 2010 is disturbing. This is only a fraction of the issues pertaining to the Tea Party. As you "refuse to simply write them off as a group of crazies" – don't assume others have not. The issue isn't how "I" see them – the issue is "what they promote". The subjective "I" can be removed from this overwhelming regression by the Tea Party.

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