December 1, 2009

Washington Post: 34,000 troops will be sent to Afghanistan

Posted: 01:14 AM ET

Washington Post Staff Writer

President Obama will outline Tuesday his intention to send an additional 34,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan, according to U.S. officials and diplomatic sources briefed Monday as Obama began informing allies of his plan.

The new deployments, along with 22,000 troops he authorized early this year, would bring the total U.S. force in Afghanistan to more than 100,000, more than half of which will have been sent to the war zone by Obama.

The president also plans to ask NATO and other partners in an international coalition to contribute 5,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, officials said. The combined U.S. and NATO deployments would nearly reach the 40,000 requested last summer by U.S. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the coalition commander in Afghanistan, as part of an intensified counterinsurgency strategy.

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A. Smith, Oregon   December 1st, 2009 1:50 am ET

It is time for America to stop propping up extremely corrupt leaders in foreign country's with the blood of American men and women.

Tell the CIA that America is no longer going to promote its ancient cold-war era of interference in world affairs that are clearly contrary to American values and world democracy.

Both the Afghanistan President Karzai and his brother have been on the CIA payroll for many years, and it appears to be public knowledge that President Karzai's brother is one of the major Opium exporters in Afghanistan working closely with the CIA to flood Russia and the Middle East with cheap Heroin.

No American lives are worth propping up corrupt foreign leaders

No American lives are worth flooding the world with cheap Heroin..

The US Department of Defense has 1 Trillion US Dollar reasons for NOT finding Osama bin Ladin and they along with their partners in the defense contracting business would lose hundreds of Billions of US Taxpayer dollars.

The current war in Afghanistan is a Proxy War between India's backed Pashtun Afghanistan Tribal fighters and Pakistan's imported Taliban fighters. With the cooperation of the Indian Prime Minister, America should be able to pull America's solders out of Afghanistan now.

Dodie   December 1st, 2009 2:26 am ET

The Afghanistan War is now the Afghanistan-Pakistan and India War. Unless the US pulls out of Afghanistan, Pakistan as a political entity will be threatened. The survival of Pakistan now depends on a reversal of course in Afghanistan. India wants the US in Afghanistan so Pakistan does not assert control through the Taliban.

Insurgency is being fed by Afghanistan and Pakistani anger at the civilian casualties resulting from the US combat tactics, especially the rising number of air strikes.

The war in Afghanistan is getting much worse for both our troops and for the Afghan civilian population. The strategic benefits are non-existent and the risks of a widening the war are alarming. The humanitarian consequences are appalling

The governments of both India and Pakistan are on a road to disaster. Both India and Pakistan have been fighting over Cashmere for years. The terrorist attack on the Indian parliament last year by armed men who killed 14 people; now the Indian government claimed that this was an attempt by the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) of Pakistan to wipe out the whole political leadership of India.

The Indian and Pakistan economies have almost one fifth of the world population. They both have more than 70 percent of the world’s poor. The economic impact of this war will be disastrous for both. Pakistan’s economy is already on the verge of economic collapse. The Afghanistan war is ruining the Pakistan economy. A war between India and Pakistan will bring degradation to all and drop the standard of livings of the masses to an unprecedented level.

America is being used by India to collapse Pakistan’s economy through the war in Afghanistan.

This is a Lose–Lose war. This is even worse than the Vietnam War!!!

President Obama, Please Bring Our Troops Home NOW!!!

From California

Dodie   December 1st, 2009 2:33 am ET

@ A. Smith from Oregon

Excellent point about the Opium exporters!

Rahul   December 1st, 2009 3:14 am ET

A response to Jesse Ventura's argument for putting a war tax: I agree that we should all pay for the incredible work our troops do for our country. It is unfathomable. But in defense to Ben Stein who says that it doesn't necessarily make sense right now:

As an educator and counselor I have seen countless times where schools and non-profits lose funding. Kids and staff suffer while simultaneously the military has received blank checks (under the previous administration). I find it hard to believe that the money we have spent on wars have not affected our incredibly poor education that currently exists.

Also, I along with most people I know, opposed the Iraq war. I was in San Francisco where about 100,000 people would protest the war. The media barely covered the event and I feel that to make everyone pay for a war that was obviously criminal just adds to the unethical act.

It is all very complicated, I agree. And maybe you're right that we just shouldn't be there at all. I just think it is weird put a tax to pay for war, when we don't have proper funding for education. I know I have suffered burn-out due to the lack of funding in non-profits where I have counseled abused youth. I trust this current administration more than any I have been alive to see. But I don't know what the solution is. Complicated.

Patrice Palmer   December 1st, 2009 3:20 am ET

I agree with Jesse Ventura on a couple of points.
1. Iraq and Afghanistan are both like Vietnam, and
2. Those in Congress and the Administration who vote for/push for war should have someone in their family required to serve and be deployed. The reason: it's more difficult to send someone you love to war, so you'll think much harder about declaring war.

I, too, question why we're really there. However, it's always a great idea to follow the money. Who has financially benefited the most from the war and what are their ties to the Administration and Congress?

I absolutely disagree with Governor Ventura about imposing a war tax on American citizens. We are struggling to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table, plus pay for other necessities, while the very corporations and companies primarily responsible for this recession have been bailed out with our tax dollars.

robert mcintyre   December 1st, 2009 4:29 am ET

if they did sneak in to the white house i think they should be thanked. why do i say this? because if they were able to sneak in the most powerful building of the world with the most powerful man what does that say about our security not just for the president but for our country? we should ask them how they were able to get in and use this as a learning tool to strengthen our security for our president.

from dubuque

Rahul   December 1st, 2009 4:41 am ET

Good point Patrice. Corporations should pay more since they profit while others suffer.

Scott Jackson   December 1st, 2009 5:05 am ET

Larry, have you thought about using subtitles when Ariana is on your show?

Ted   December 1st, 2009 9:46 am ET

Going to war when you are not attacked is a crime against humanity and your own citizens!
Yet our congress has no problems with the idea of sending hundreds of thousands of our young men and women thousands of miles away to attack countries that did nothing to harm us. Our recent President, whom we voted in office in hope to break the steady line of wars we start and finally bring our troops home and declare peace, is about to announce to send even more troops to die in Afghanistan.

Except the WWII when we were attacked by the japanese, all other wars were started by us with either provoking it or by using simple lies:

We provoked the Spanish-American war in 1898, all stories of the incident in the harbor of Havanna are false. We simply wanted to control Cuba and the Philippines and declared war on Spain.

The Korean civil war was no danger to us, yet we entered it and lost it, paying the price of over 50,000 dead. It was for geopolitical reasons and still have there over 50,000 soldiers stationed to keep an eye on that part of Asia.

The incident in Tomkin Bay, the reason we entered the Vietnam civil war, has never happened, it is a pure invention of our military and Pres. Johnson so we can go to war.
We lost that war, too, paying the price of over 50,000 dead americans and a financially ruined country. Over 2 million local people were killed in that war, mostly by our military. Our agent orange chemical warfare poisoned the land and now, 30 years after the end of the hostilities, still thosands of children are born with deformation caused by the same agent orange!

Kuwait was always part of Iraq, only the british created it during 1922 to cut off Iraq from the sea. This was in revenge for being kicked out of Iraq.
Historically speaking Saddam Hussein had the right to claim it for Iraq and we did not like the idea so we attacked him using uran covered artillery shells that poisoned not only a great part of that land, but our own troops.

All 9/11 terrorist were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jemen, so the reason to attack Afghanistan was again false as the Taliban was the creation of our own CIA and had nothing to do with the WTC incident.
Although Bin Laden were supposedly living there it is not a good enough reason to invade and bomb a country and kill thosands of women and children.

Saddam Hussein of Iraq was also a creation of the CIA und waged a war in our name against Iran in the 1980s.
We needed Iraq for its oil and for the excellect position of being in the middle of all those islamic countries, so again we invented the story of WMDs Iraq was developing and a connection to Al Quida, both proved wrong.
How many people had to die for this lie from Bush and Cheney?

We are getting us into a situation of being in the middle of a major upheaval in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Cashmire and India that we cannot control and will bury us under a mountain of dead americans.

Mr. President, I am sure the decision is already made and my plea is useless, still do not do this to our country. We had enough wars that we lost and that should make even an idiot to think.
Governor Ventura is right, we are getting into something that will be worse than Vietnam was.

Mr. B   December 1st, 2009 10:41 am ET

In this country were quick to lay claims on the Holy Bible, JESUS CHRIST, Christiananity, Christmas and all the good things we believe about GOD and His Commandments, but what about true LOVE, he said blessed are the PEACEMAKERS, you can't have peace with WAR or guns, violence, arguing, fighting, racism, fascist, discrimination, injustice, no moral character, no integrity, no truth, pure lies, deception, swindling, outrageous interest rates, disrespect for elderly, abusing children, causing innocent bloodshed, and much more etc. America wants to say they are a CHRISTIAN, celebrating of JESUS CHRIST nation, GOD FORBID, may GOD have mercy on the fools, and extra mercy on the few believers in & of the truth.

Judith   December 1st, 2009 12:33 pm ET

While Bush/Cheney kept two wars going for 8 years they threw bills on the tab we owe to China and other Countries.This time is double the time of War World 11.
When is the pipers going to come calling?

Yes we Need a War Tax to pay as you go.We can't keep charging and not paying as many Americans know how credit cards work.Pres Obama won't be the first President to do this.
If we support the troops fighting then it's up to the American people to pay the bills to support them being there so the tab is not added at the end of Bush/Cheneys tab.
We can not give these soldiers more added debt after they come hnome by throwing bills on tabs.

Maybe than the GOPs who love war so much will whine and say bring the troops home.

Have a certain tax right across the board just like the GOPs wanted.
Their 1% will add up more than the adv person's 1% Tax

Judith   December 1st, 2009 12:38 pm ET

By taking more troops into the War we will end up like Nam in and then out spending to rebuild.Added dollars to Americans.

Russia and the English tried and it was fail.Bush said in and out within a few years while it lasted to be handed to the next new President. How many more years 15-25 years.How much can America take?

Bottom Line to Win is to get out.

Shirley Jones   December 1st, 2009 1:01 pm ET

I do not think that Tiger Woods accident is any ones business, but his. It is not our place or the media to judge him, we all need to look at our own lives before we judge others.

Joe G. (Illinois)   December 1st, 2009 1:11 pm ET

The American war in Afghanistan cannot be won with the eagerly anticipated “Last Bullet” from the Americans. Paying them money to stop shooting American soldiers won’t work either. Training their military and local police with the latest and the best from the American Military as if with “Willful treason” during war time won’t work either. Sending more raw meat “34,000 more troops” in the grinder won’t work either. If Americans would only give up their quest to spread Hip-hop, Rap and all that other Filthy Liberal Progressive Lifestyle rather than going after women who wear veils for example..! But no.. Obama is in charge and he cares about the women in Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq. Like about how they can dress and if they are allowed to Abort children and have immoral liberal progressive lifestyles with freedom like Americans.

Dodie   December 1st, 2009 1:40 pm ET

@ Ted
What a passionate and heart-felt blog! So beautifully stated.

I, too, am very saddened to hear more troops in Afghanistan. More dead Americans and innocent Afghanistans. We will never “win” a war when it is targeting a specific group of people in another country! We tried in Korea, Vietnam. It has never worked and it will never work! All we end up doing is killing our troops and innocent bystanders.

I wonder if the decision was made because the Prime Minister of India, Manmohan Singh, was just here and talking to our president. The war we are waging on Afghanistan is for India! It has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or Bin Laden! There must be something we need from India in order to be willing to continue with this war.

Ted   December 1st, 2009 2:08 pm ET

@ Dodie,

India is in a desperate situation, it has an over 150 million moslem population that do not match with the hindu majority.
Should Pakistan go up in flames, the moslems in India may follow suit and rise against their supressors, creating a problem that will shake the world. On the east border of India is Bangladesh, also an islamic country, with millions of brother folks just across the border. Please remember, those borders were drawn by the british colonists with disregard to which nations will be separated.
In India burning mosques and beating up moslems is a daily routine.

In the middle of all that will be our soldiers, a pure nightmare for any military commander. In my opinion our president is screwing up bigtime if he listens to the generals.

peter   December 1st, 2009 2:13 pm ET

WE are very disappointed in Pres. Obama's many lives lost..& the 2 wars are costing us 90 billion a month ??...any comments ?..

Ted   December 1st, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Those companies making huge pofits from the wars should be paying a windfall profit tax, after all they can thank it for those american soldiers who died in vain so they can sell more weapons and bombs.

Also all taxable income of over $50,000 should pay an extra 10% surcharge on the tax they pay. We did not want the war, however we are in it together, like it or not.

harry   December 1st, 2009 4:17 pm ET

Pres. Obama will not win a 2nd term..& that saddens me because he is a decent man..he's gotten sm bad advice doing this...Gov Ventura said it right" the chicken hawks who began these wars never went to war, Bush, Cheney"...I remember FDR,,I say, Bring the troops home !...Let's solve all the problems we have here in the many lives lost needlessly....

Thomas W   December 3rd, 2009 2:01 am ET

About Afghanistan: I SMELL ANOTHER "SECRET WAR"...
Right off the bat the reasoning for our involvement in this war has been nothing but NEBULOUS. We were left in the dark about our involvement in the last war, and now we have been led right back into the dark again! Unbelievable!! When are we going to stop being fools?!? When are we going to stop settling for flimsy answers?!? There are too many holes in the reasoning for this war. So perhaps we are REALLY there for OIL. Perhaps we are REALLY there to channel funds into THE WAR MACHINE. Perhaps we are REALLY there to POSITION U.S. CONTROL OF THE REGION. One thing is certain: Obama is obviously not giving us straight answers. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE STENCH OF OBAMA'S DECEPTION!!!!

Ashlee Guy   December 4th, 2009 2:53 pm ET

The war in Afghanistan is getting much worse for both our troops and for the Afghan civilian population. The strategic benefits are non-existent and the risks of a widening the war are alarming. I, too, am very saddened to hear more troops in Afghanistan. More dead Americans and innocent Afghanistans. We will never win a war when it is targeting a specific group of people in another country!

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