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October 12, 2009

New Michael Jackson song released

Posted: 09:52 AM ET

A brand new song by Michael Jackson was released on the late singer's Web site early Monday.

However about 45 seconds of "This Is It" did the rounds online Sunday after being leaked ahead of its scheduled release on Michaeljackson.com.

"This Is It" will be followed by a two-disc album with the same title on October 26.

The album features music that inspired the film "Michael Jackson's This Is It," which is scheduled for release October 28.

The album's first disc features some of Jackson's biggest hits, arranged in sequence as they appear in the film. The disc ends with "This Is It," which includes backup vocals by The Jacksons. Do you think this new release has come too soon?

Disc two offers previously unreleased versions of some of the artist's classic tracks.

The song will play at the close of the film, which will feature Jackson's career highlights and last rehearsals, his publicists said.

Filed under: Entertainment • Michael Jackson


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MourningMJ   October 12th, 2009 9:57 am ET

For Michael Jackson.. The Real Michael Jackson in Heaven….

Michael, you really have outdone yourself this time.. Even from the other side, you have yet cusped another brillant, magical masterpiece. Nothing but angelic composition so eloquently designed. If “This Was It” Michael, then you truly shall leave us no margin to question if your talent could ever take you higher than you already are now- In Heaven. You reached it, Michael. You are there. The absolute highest you can go. I will miss you endlessly Michael.
“This is it”, Michael… for now.
ILYMJJ xoxo


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 10:00 am ET

Good Day MourningMJ....how are you today dear ????

I loved the song....but I have to honestly say it is NOT exceptional compared to the hits MJ had always released.

Great to hear that exceptional voice of him again......


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:01 am ET

Yeah a new blog!

MourningMJ

Could not have said it any better1


Mara   October 12th, 2009 10:03 am ET

MMJ – Happy Monday hag mama – THIS IS IT! I love it but I cried! =(
Have a great day!


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:05 am ET

hi evryone here


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:07 am ET

this is it well not for us girls we triing to get justice for michael just what he derserve


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:07 am ET

HI Mara, MMj

Hags rule..


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:10 am ET

when i heart the song i feel sad i got gosebumps allover i keep saiing why you michael


Patty Anderson   October 12th, 2009 10:11 am ET

Hello everyone. Just checking the blog out.
I have not yet been able to hear the song. I have been listening all morning. i am very upset with my radio stations here. They can't seem to play Michaels song, but they an sure make rude comments about him
It is not going to be a good day. I feel like calling everyone of them and giving them a piece of my mind.
Cannot wait to get my laptop bacj so I have sound again. This old desktop is really hagging out.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 10:12 am ET

I heard the 'This Is It' for the first time this morning and I was left captivated once again.......

I'd like to share the following quote:

"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory."

Michael's music definitely falls into the latter as it is nothing but PURE MAGIC!


Raychil   October 12th, 2009 10:13 am ET

Great song.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:13 am ET

I LOOOOOOVE this song! Reminds me of another one I heard either on History or Invincible....doesnt come to mind! or was it on Dangerous!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:13 am ET

-Michael Jackson

From just the minute I listened to this song a wave of excitement came over me, It was just like before MAGIC.
Then the sadness came and I could not listen to anymore.
I will try again today and hopefully get through the whole song.

You are the KING no question.
RIP we miss you forever and you will get justice.


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:14 am ET

sam nice words


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:15 am ET

Patty

they wont let me post link but go to michael jackson dot com link the song is there


Patty Anderson   October 12th, 2009 10:16 am ET

Thanks Lora I know. The sound on this old desktop quit working for some reason. But thanks


blackorwhite   October 12th, 2009 10:16 am ET

great song this is it
michael hi miss you 🙁


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:16 am ET

We cant pre-order this is it cd here in Canada...yet!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:17 am ET

@Samantha,

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I heard the ‘This Is It’ for the first time this morning and I was left captivated once again…….
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He had a way of captivating us no matter what he did.


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:18 am ET

those words this is it makes me really sad becouse dr death and others take him away from us


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:18 am ET

Patty

do you have speakers? if yes check connection and go to Control Panel "sound" and check that it will show the problem....on mine it does anyway!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:19 am ET

Patty

There u go good old youtube!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:21 am ET

Judie

I know what you mean....makes me excited then sad just thinking about the whole fiasco!

His children must be feeling the same!


Patty Anderson   October 12th, 2009 10:21 am ET

Thanks Ladies but I have no sound. Have to have computer checked somethings wrong


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:22 am ET

Samantha,
Ok I just listened to the whole song. Its wonderful.

THIS IS IT Michael you are the light of the world.

Can't wait to buy it.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 10:23 am ET

@Jacqueline

Yeah,Michael was indeed gone too soon!


Céline - FR   October 12th, 2009 10:24 am ET

OMG !! I love it .... his voice is soo.. great
but I cried a lot when I heard it

life was so unfair and cruel with Michael

WHY MICHAEL ??
WHY YOU'RE GONE WHY ??


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:24 am ET

Lora,

Too many mixed emotions yes, but then we have had that feeling since June 25th...


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 10:26 am ET

Good Morning!!

I love this new song!! Didnt I read its from 1979?


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 10:26 am ET

@Judie

Even though it was done by Michael as a demo,this track is awesome!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:26 am ET

Morning Patty sorry you can't hear it 🙁 IHUG

Morning Céline – FR How are you?


Cali MJ Fan   October 12th, 2009 10:26 am ET

RE: Do you think this new release has come too soon?

I think it sounds too forced, not up to Michael's standards and definitely the background vocals (ahem, his brothers) drown him out in parts. It would have been nicer to try and use technology to put his voice back into the song rather than slap together a mix that doesn't meet Michael's standards.

I love the song, because it's Michael's music. I already pre-ordered the collectors' edition but have since found it a bit disappointing that the soundtrack to the movie is just re-releases of music I already have (and I have them ALL). Ok, I will get the new song, the orchestral version, a booklet and poster and his poem.

I'm happy with that– but McClain had better put some more effort in future ventures of Michael's music before releasing something that is half-baked. Michael was a perfectionist and I don't think This is It came anywhere near his level of uniqueness.

And for heaven's sake– please don't put the brothers on any more songs! Janet, yes! Brothers/La Toya, no!

As a fan, I am willing to purchase almost anything that comes out about Michael from the Estate. But now that the movie and CD (and future DVD of the movie) will generate some money to repay his debts, how about the Estate making sure the quality of the things that are being approved come up a few notches. Personally, I've spent a few thousand - re-ordered ALL his music for gifts. Purchased $400 bucks worth of stuff from Bravado, pre-ordered Moonwalker and MJ's Opus.

I feel rather duped on the CD soundtrack. I will wait in the future to pre-order until the tracks are released rather than running to pre-order as soon as it hits the web. Team Branca is under the gun right now, I know, but please make sure the quality is up to Michael's standards– not that of the industry's... because he always surpassed the industry!


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:28 am ET

judie i know thi is not goiing away it stays whith us in our haerts forever and ever when we haer a song from michael or see him on dvd and in the movie it wont dissapear


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 10:28 am ET

I can just imagine what it would be like when the movie plays out to this song at the end,I'll be walking out of the theater soaked in tears!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:29 am ET

jacqueline from holland,

Yes but mabe that's a good thing too.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 10:30 am ET

Do we think the song is released too soon ????.......... considering the fact that the song is part of the coming same titled movie, ofcourse it leaves some question why it had to be released indeed now, when the people could otherwise have been more motivated and thrilled into buying it after hearing it as a soundtrack.

MOP tells me normally the excitement of a song as a soundtrack alone sometimes add up that twist in pushing up sales....... anyway, lets wait see how the sales go like on the 26th and 27th october for the album .....


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:30 am ET

judie yes it is


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:32 am ET

MJ autobiography out on October 13 – here is a review!

This review is from: Moonwalk (Hardcover)

Okay, we all may know what Michael Jackson is all about these days. We know that he dangled his youngest child over a balcony in Germany, he has totally altered his face since the earlier days,and yes, his skin is currently white, but wait! Stop there for just a second.
Go back to the year 1988. Michael Jackson is still capitalizing on the success of his first two major-label albums and has just released his third album, Bad. He is wondering what's next for him. He decides to write a tell-all autobiography, explaining his past, present, and future in music and the entertainment business. He also explains his love life, his ability to come up with extraordiary music, short films, and even dance moves, and also tries to clear up some of the nasty rumors that have since plagued his career.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the single greatest autobiography I have ever read in my life! Not only does Michael express his feelings about music, children, and personal life, but he also displays true detail and emotion within every single sentence. If you are a die-hard Michael Jackson fan, you will really want this book!

No matter what anybody will ever say about him, Michael Jackson is, has been, and always will be the greatest musical artist in the history of this world!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:32 am ET

I can see all the stores now KLEENEX sold out!


Céline - FR   October 12th, 2009 10:36 am ET

Hi Judie
how are you doing ?

I' m ok .. soo SAD after listening to the song

MICHAEL we LOVE YOU and MISS YOU ..


Sladjana   October 12th, 2009 10:36 am ET

@Cali MJ Fan

I agree. The brothers are unnecessary.


MourningMJ   October 12th, 2009 10:42 am ET

@COCO- Coco- I have been reading your posts! You are so funny, as always. Always speaking your mind with your heart and loyalty.. I absolutely love it! You know... I'm bias I guess (about This is It)- My soul is broken... He could have sang my grocery store receipt and nothing could be more triumphant. We shall keep seeking Justice for our beloved...

@LORA, Canada- Thank you Lora for you commentary... I really appreciate it so much.... And of course, Happy Thanksgiving to you today, Lora. What perfecting timing: I'm thankful to have another piece of Michael today...

@MARA ((IHUG!!!))- Mara, I cried as well. I listened to it again after we left Jax and I sobbed. I just cannot believe this incredible talent so quickly disappeared from us so needlessly. Michael will bring us much for beautiful masterpieces, Mara.... you'll see! IHUG !

@PATTY- Patty, you keep coming back! I'm sorry you have no sound! Maybe you can go to a Borders or another bookstore to hear it? It is a musical composition out of this world, Patty.....

@JACQUELINE, Holland- Good Morning, how are you? Haven't spoke to you in a long time! Hope everything is well...

ihmj xoxo

JUDIE@10:13- Touching, Judie. Of course he will remain, undisputedly the King of Pop forever. We miss him endlessly and painfully. We shall over come the TBFP and continue to seek justice for Michael! {{{IHUY}}}}


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:43 am ET

I'm gonna ask Santa for the book Moonwalk and Opus too.

I better start being good now. lol


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:44 am ET

mmj im also jacqueline\nl if the blog dont work on this name i have to go to my daughters accont and than im \nl


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:45 am ET

much better than yesterday mmj thank you


mariau   October 12th, 2009 10:47 am ET

ohh Jacqueline thanks.. 🙂


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 10:49 am ET

Where did my comment go?

What the heck?

Anyway, I said I love the song, and that it was recorded in 1979,but still great to hear his voice sing something we have not heard yet.

Love you More Michael.

RIP


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Isnt this song from 1979? Or did I read wrong?


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:52 am ET

billiejean, I hope you are doing better now..It sounds like it.
Keep up the faith.
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Morning mariau sweetie how are you today?


mariau   October 12th, 2009 10:54 am ET

oohh Judie my dear i'm ok thanks and how are you too???

did you see last night the boggledykygook???


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:55 am ET

I love his new song......he really has the most beautiful voice i've ever heard......


jacqueline from holland   October 12th, 2009 10:55 am ET

im goiing now make dinner [ tortelini ] if i can icome back later
love


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 10:58 am ET

Patty Anderson October 12th, 2009 10:21 am ET

Thanks Ladies but I have no sound. Have to have computer checked somethings wrong
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maybe your sound is muted?


rose   October 12th, 2009 10:59 am ET

when are people going to stop making money out of michael as even in death they are trying to get their last onces of flesh for god sake let the poor man rest in peace and leave him alone,hasnt he paid off his debts by being killed?? as the scavangers soon came out of the wood work to try and get what was theres while his family had to suffer and try and stop them,i for one will not be buying the cd as i want to remember michael when he was alive not from memrobilia made from his death as i know michael made hundreds of songs while he was alive but he fully intended to release them while he was alive so vidoes could be made for some too not after his death,,,,they will do and make anything these days for profits and linning their pockets,,,its a sick world that money is more important than a human life !!!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 10:59 am ET

mariau,
boggledykygook, Yes I did.


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:01 am ET

Judie – 😀 😀 we should not waste these precious BLOGS OF LARRY KING..


Mara   October 12th, 2009 11:04 am ET

♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫MMJ thank you!♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫

Judie – Good morning to you too hag bag I missed you last night on Jaxson St. BBFF..

Patty – Goodmorning!!

denise/Tink – Happy Thanksgiving my Canadian Hags.

Hi MARIAU, Samantha South Africa..

jacqueline Holland – no need to apologize for re-posting the dog article – it's all good.

Lora Ottawa – I love your comment "can put an apple pie together before the page refreshes" LOL

LORI JFM – where are you? HAG gone MIA? PUHALSKA TNO

Have a nice day! Talk later.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 11:04 am ET

@ billie jean
Thanks for the info on the song. About it being from 1979. Geeeez I was only 9 yrs old!! Just a young'n!! LOL


Milagros Mendez   October 12th, 2009 11:05 am ET

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I think Michael deserves everything good that is happening in relation to his success with his movie and his new CDs. It was time something had to happen that we all appreciate the good ensenera the living god us to realize how great and talented he was as an artist and human being, although others say the opposite. Michael was always there to hurt us a lot of us did not realize how important it meant for, I think that if he were among us would be laughing out loud all the good that is happening now at this time. The frame pattern among all his followers and so today and will always be remembered as a special that gave the best of himself to the world. Today October 12 sounds at a time, beginning with a song that will make us remember him as the first time I sing her first single and we danced for a long time but now will be different because failure will be here to enjoy her as a protagonist extito their own history in film, which is why I want to dedicate today if you support me!; this success to her 3 kids for giving the best to his father, every smile, every word, every gesture that meant for you your greatest happiness and I know from where Hueber will find the monastery wanted to share the stage with his three children ... Please give the moments of feliciades when most needed ... Prince Michael I, Paris, Blanquet ... L enjoy success that his father left him as a gift! For you all the best of this world, and Keep it forever linked the 3 together as the Three Musketeers .... All for one and one for all!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:06 am ET

hi hOTTY mARA - how are you my dearest????


Judie   October 12th, 2009 11:08 am ET

mariau,
I agree I just do not comment anymore.
It's useless anyway. Just ignore the trolls.


Judie   October 12th, 2009 11:09 am ET

Mara,
I was on late after you left. Have a good day. IHUG


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:10 am ET

Lora Otawa Canada – thanks for your post..


Maria   October 12th, 2009 11:11 am ET

With that distinct youthful, serene '80s feeling, the song reminds me of how happy I felt when I listened to Off The Wall. Only that now I can't feel any happiness, especially when I hear the lyrics.

I don't think MJ was ever ashamed of this song, but he chose not to develop and release it as his song, as long as he and Paul Anka wrote it for Safire and she included it on her 1991 album.

Now it's interesting (in fact saddening) how conflicting are the reactions to the song.
Some fans have found out that This Is It will not be released as a physical or digital single (though it is a radio single) and made a petition to Sony to release it, saying that Sony deprives MJ of the chance to have another No.1. In the meantime, the same fans encourage the illegal download of the song and are already posting links to filesharing sites. Others, on the contrary, bash Sony for releasing it, saying the song is not good enough for any official release, not to mention to be a single.

Obviously, it can't be other than a radio single. But it's better to release it in the context of This Is It than to leave it buried in the vaults or at the discretion of pirates (I'm talking about the many "MJ unreleased" and "MJ demos" that have surfaced for years on filesharing sites).

So I don't think it was released too soon. I hoped that the vaults will be searched and new demos from the '80s and '90s will be released, as it happened with The Ultimate Collection. Business wise it's the correct pairing between This Is It the old, serene song and This Is It the last tour that never took place.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:18 am ET

Hi Coco, MMJ, mariau, jacqueline, Judie, Sam and all the other girls 🙂


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:19 am ET

In the meantime, the same fans encourage the illegal download of the song and are already posting links to filesharing sites.
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That is so wrong............


Luda   October 12th, 2009 11:19 am ET

Great song!
Should be in the top 10.

Thanks to Michael.


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 11:20 am ET

Judie,
Thank you for asking, you are really sweet. It gets harder everyday. hearing this song brought me to tears. I just wish the pain would start easing up instead of getting worse. I think when there is an arrest made, maybe I will have the closure I need.

it is hard. As I am sure it is for you as well.

Michael was a gift from God to us. And I miss him dearly:(


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:20 am ET

stealing from his children....


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:22 am ET

2bad

Safire also recorded the Michael Jackson/Paul Anka written song "I Never Heard" featured on the CD.

On wikipedia


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 11:22 am ET

2 bad,
it sure as heck sounds like it huh? WOW..wth?


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:24 am ET

billiejean

It is the same song, it was written for her by MJ and Paul Anka! 1991!

Safire also recorded the Michael Jackson/Paul Anka written song "I Never Heard" featured on the CD


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:25 am ET

Maybe MJ didnt find the song good enough for his own CD?

Now it is appropriate for the movie!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 11:27 am ET

Good morning Allure,
How are you? Happy Monday .

Lora thanks for bringing up that point! stealing indeed.


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:30 am ET

allure / Luda / Lori Quebec/ Maria sweetie.. how's your day? and to all.. 🙂 🙂


Maria   October 12th, 2009 11:31 am ET

mariau – 🙂


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:35 am ET

The Safire rendition with the beatbox element sounds more like what Michael would have opted for as a final product. One question: THis Is It was a demo tape recording from the 80's-90's corrrect? (sounds like a younger Michael's voice) and they used his demo and put the brothers in and polished it up as a new single – right? Was this the intended theme song for the 02 concerts or was this song pick after the fact? Sorry – I haven't read all the way thru the info – I'm sure someone here knows.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:37 am ET

@Cocovelvet
I agree, I listened to the song 4 times and in my opinion it's not a masterpiece. But I am convinced there is more to come in terms of new songs. As far as I remember Michael once in an interview stated that he never stopped composing, writing, etc. even during traveling. There are for sure more albums to come, hopefully with the help of Bruce Swedien. Furthermore I think that Sony will not stop the MJ money machine so soon.............


Iva   October 12th, 2009 11:37 am ET

Hi all..
@Lora..or perhaps the song didn't fit the theme back then but he really liked it so he gave it to Safire 🙂

I agree with Samantha..his songs somehow are like magic..really move your emotion at some point. Even the non fans will admit that..


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:38 am ET

Dianne - ooh girl where have you been??? i missed you 🙂 🙂 and where's Linda from new york?? are you busy guys..


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:40 am ET

Judie, mariau
HI! Fine, thanks for asking. I have a day off and enjoyed the sun...


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:41 am ET

Hi Mariau –

The bloggledy gook was not worth my energy so I left for awhile. Same thing with Linda only she won't be back for awhile if ever. I have to fish the blogs for any sign of GOLD PANTS activity too 🙂


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:42 am ET

Are the Hags still on here?


Iva   October 12th, 2009 11:42 am ET

@ Allure..but if i'm not mistaken, Michael only owed Sony two set of songs or i don't know the exact figure and the contract is off. So the new songs for the last 5 years practically don't belong to Sony anymore..the question is who gets hold of his hard drive? the one where he kept his recent fresh tracks? if latoya said she didn't take it then who?


Maria   October 12th, 2009 11:42 am ET

@ Diane: No, the song was not intended for the O2 concerts.
From today's New York Times article:

Mr. Jackson died on June 25, and Sony and the Jackson estate have only begun what is expected to be a long process of musical archaeology.

“We probably have at least 100 songs in varying degrees of being finished,” said Rob Stringer, chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, a Sony division. “And we think there probably is a lot more. We haven’t gone into the archive to search it properly yet. It’s just too complicated to do that.”

If “This Is It” is any guide, the provenance of leftover Jackson songs might be difficult to establish. It is not clear when the song was written or recorded, Mr. Stringer said, and Sony originally believed that the tape was made around the time of Mr. Jackson’s 1991 album “Dangerous.” But it could have been much earlier, perhaps even as early as the album “Off the Wall,” from 1979.

“We just found the song,” Mr. Stringer said. “It was titled ‘This Is It.’ It was in a box, and we listened to it.”

“This Is It” was also to have been the title of Mr. Jackson’s 50-concert run in London, although the synergy is unclear; Mr. Stringer and others with knowledge of the production say the song was not part of it. It will, however, be included in the soundtrack for the film, along with a poem titled “Planet Earth,” standard versions of 14 of Mr. Jackson’s hits and a few 1980s demos. The album goes on sale Oct. 27, and the film is due out the next day, but the newly released song will not be sold separately as a single.

Mr. Jackson recorded with a variety of collaborators and often left his vocals incomplete, Mr. Stringer said. Since Mr. Jackson’s death numerous producers have come forward saying that they had recorded with him. One likely project, Mr. Stringer added, would be a 30th-anniversary treatment of “Off the Wall,” for which Sony and Mr. Jackson had been in discussions.

Sony has rights to release any music Mr. Jackson recorded while under contract. But since there could be as many as two albums’ worth of material made after that deal expired, around five years ago, other labels may also be able to cut deals, and the Jackson estate has held talks with Universal about those recordings, according to people familiar with the discussions but not authorized to speak publicly.
(...)
Enterprising fans online, however, quickly found that “This Is It” is not exactly new. It bears a strong resemblance to “I Never Heard,” a 1991 track by the R&B singer Sa-Fire that was written by Mr. Jackson and Paul Anka. Mr. Stringer said that until this was pointed out by sleuthing fans, he had not known about the connection. “I really have no idea what the origins of the song are,” he said.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:43 am ET

Another question: the new authorized biography Moonwalk coming out in late October – is that updated or a re-release?


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:43 am ET

Right now I am listening to "I just can't stop loving you". Every time I hear this song it's kind of a hug to me, cannot explain why. I can absolutely feel this song. Maybe it takes some time and I'll feel the This is it song too.......


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:44 am ET

mariau October 12th, 2009 11:30 am ET

allure / Luda / Lori Quebec/ Maria sweetie.. how’s your day? and to all..
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My day is going ok thanks for asking Mariau......how is yours?


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 11:46 am ET

What I don't understand is if Michael did not think it was good enough to be on his record, why are they releasing now? Michael wanted all his released things to be flawless. He obviously was not a big fan of how the song turned out, or we would of heard it 20 years ago.

It is a beautiful song, he should have been proud of it.

I'm just not sure of the stradegy of this I guess..


Lori Quebec Canada   October 12th, 2009 11:46 am ET

it is thanksgiving here......


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:46 am ET

Thanks Maria!

I think his voice on this new song sounds like the early 80's as opposed to the Dangerous period.


Judie   October 12th, 2009 11:48 am ET

Diane,

Hey hag I'm in and out but I saw you. We need gold pants soon to make us smile 🙂 because we know there is nothing wrong with that.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 11:48 am ET

@ Lora:

Ok, thanks!

I'm still wondering why they renamed the song and released it as a "new song" when it's not really new...I sorry...I am not good at figuring this stuff out 🙁


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:48 am ET

Happy Thanksgiving to the Canucks! We have snow here today and the leaves have not finished changing and falling. What a mess!


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 11:49 am ET

I heard it was recorded in 79...does anyone know if this is true?

I agree it sounds like Off The Wall era, nnot the danguerous era.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:50 am ET

Hey Jude –

I am in and out as well. HEaring his voice from back ago is kind of sad. So very talented he was.


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 11:50 am ET

We have snow here too Diane, and I am not a happy camper. It is too early.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 11:50 am ET

@ billiejean:

I don't understand it either. It's a beautiful song, but I think Michael would have tweaked it a lot more...


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:51 am ET

Hi Iva
the question is who gets hold of his hard drive? the one where he kept his recent fresh tracks? if latoya said she didn’t take it then who?

Very good question, I would like to know that too. Did Michael have a home studio at Holmby Hills where probably some masterpieces were stored and just wait to be discovered??
I mentioned Bruce Swedien as I read times ago, that the two guys worked very well together.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 11:52 am ET

@ billie jean
I read on the other blog about the album cover and someone last night mentioned it was from 1979....


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:52 am ET

about his new songs.. people feel free to buy it if this the only chance to keep MJ alive .. for me whether it's revivial, old in new version doesn't matter... as long as people will to hear it.. even MJ's song was 2 decades ago.. i think the promoter said it.. new released.. although it's made 1991..
People would love to hear it, as far as i'm concerned about MJ's legacy, his music should always be in the market..
Mj's death still very painful, some people would like to hear everything's about Michael.. they will grab the chance to buy and keep as memorabilia..
the only thing that we want to make sure if this profit goes to MJ's estate???


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:53 am ET

Hi Diane
Here in Europe the German version of Moonwald was released in September and I already red it. It's a re-release with some new pictures.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:53 am ET

oupsssssssss .....read it


Maria   October 12th, 2009 11:54 am ET

@ Iva (11:42 am ET): There are 2 different topics:
– the songs written while MJ was under contract with CBS/Epic/Sony, that is almost all of his career including Invincible. Until 2011, Sony has the legal right to release any unreleased or previously released song from those years.

– the songs written after Invincible (the famous stolen hard drives and maybe others too) – all these songs belong to his estate, Sony has no right over them and if the estate wants them to be released, any recording label can bid for them.


Iva   October 12th, 2009 11:54 am ET

@2 Bad..i think because the first three words fit the concert and the movie title..so perhaps it's a coincidence.. and the song is beautiful, they probably said why not..


Céline - FR   October 12th, 2009 11:54 am ET

right .. his voice seems like in the off the wall era

indeed those Sony guys are very smart ..

Michael on t'aime à la FOLIE


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:55 am ET

LaToya had said that a lot of stuff including jewelry and cash as well as the hard drive disappeared before the family went there. The LAPD also reported that the bedroom surveillance tapes from the morning of the 25th were missing. The kids went to the hospital following the ambulance and so did Murray so I don't know who was left in the house that day.


mariau   October 12th, 2009 11:58 am ET

Dianne – then do you think Sony has something to do with the lost of hard drive?
it's sickening.. and AEG AND SONY IS CASHING IN MJ'S death...


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 11:59 am ET

Mariau –

I feel the way you do. I am buying MJ stuff because I want his legacy to be good and because 40% goes to the kids. Branca and McClain can make decisions that will hopefully get the debt cleared up – that is also a legacy and should not overshadow his contributions and talent.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 11:59 am ET

@Maria
thanks a lot for the article from the NYT!

"We probably have at least 100 songs in varying degrees of being finished,” said Rob Stringer, chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, a Sony division. “And we think there probably is a lot more. We haven’t gone into the archive to search it properly yet. It’s just too complicated to do that.”

WOW, at least 100 songs! I really hope they will search them!!


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

@ Iva:

Yes, that does make sense.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 12:01 pm ET

Céline
Oui, absolument!! 🙂


mariau   October 12th, 2009 12:03 pm ET

so it means Sony was behind with Murray.. to think Murray was the only can do it with security alvarez.. i smell fish..

lots of speculation and rumours.. until now Murray still free hanging out in a strip bar.. so funny..

if Murray could speak and reveal the truth maybe these allegationas and inuenda.. will be clear very soon..

AEG AND SONY.. still doing their best moves to sell out MJ's until the soup is still hot..


Iva   October 12th, 2009 12:04 pm ET

@Maria
Thanks for clearing that up..i see, so I think Sony will keep releasing whatever they can find in Michael's vaults at theirs..mm i may sound cynical towards Sony, but i just don't like what they did to Michael back then..As long as they can uphold his legacy within his standards and the profit goes to his children, it's fine with me..
But i'm more interested in the second one..the fresh ones..wonder if any label can finally release it. I'm sure many are ready pieces..like several of his collaborators said, akon, will am etc..is it true that the hard drive is missing? it's too bad.. 🙁


Céline - FR   October 12th, 2009 12:05 pm ET

@ Diane in Minneapolis

WHO STOLE THE TAPES, MONEY, HARD DRIVE, JEWELLERIES ..??

there's many possibilities:

*the houskeepers/bodyguars ??
*sony ??
*LaToya??

well I don't know .... but I think Sony


Cali MJ Fan   October 12th, 2009 12:06 pm ET

(Article) (MyFOX NATIONAL) – With the midnight release of Michael Jackson's single "This Is It," some are now claiming this song is not so new.

That stems from reports that a similar song was written by Jackson and Paul Anka back in the 1990s under the title "I Never Heard" for the female Latin singer SaFire. A version of "I Never Heard" has been posted to YouTube .

When Sony was asked by The New York Times about the origin of the song, Rob Stringer, chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, a Sony division, said that until this was pointed out by fans, he had not known about the connection.

"I really have no idea what the origins of the song are," Stringer told The New York Times .

On SaFire's official MySpace blog , the singer referenced the song after Jackson's death.

"Michael touched my heart and soul in so many different ways I feel blessed that I had the chance of recording an original song he wrote for me with Paul Anka titled "I Never Heard" . Michael was someone who I admired and who's career I followed. I drew inspiration from Michael as I watched his talents take flight on so many levels ... R.I.P. Michael you will truly be missed but you will live on in every song. - Love Always SAFIRE."

SaFire was not a huge commercial success, but she is well-known in the genre of Latin Freestyle music. Her most commercially successful hit was the ballad "Thinking of You" in 1989.
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(I Never Heard was released in 1991).


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:07 pm ET

Mariau –

I don't have an opinion about Sony or AEG's involvement in the death or the theft. I have been giving them the benefit of the doubt until there are more hard facts. I have been thinking it is only incompetence on Murray's part and that's all. Some of the weird things that have occured make me think that it could go deeper than Murray. For now I am going with "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" which is what Michael asked for himself on TV after his arrest.


Céline - FR   October 12th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

I've just watched Latoya's interview on youtube..

WHY SHE'S DOING THIS TO MICHAEL?? WHY??

I mean why she keeps talking about the paternity issue..and how Blanket was conceived – OMG!! –

doesn't she know that she's hurting Michael and his children

if Michael was alive .. he would never accept this!! never..


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

Celine –

That is baffling to me as well. I don't know why she is digging up that old argument. Paternity seems to have died down and is a sleeping dog. Let that sleeping dog lie!


Mariam   October 12th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Another great masterpiece its a shame you had to go too soon. Its a shame how people only knew your value after your death. I hope you get justice and instead of them putting you on trial. You get your right in court. MJ seemed to be such a gentlemen. A well raised, eloquent, polite person that was very successful and targeted because he was black.


Holland   October 12th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

This is old news, but I wasn't aware that one of the three calls Murray made was to Klein.
______________________________________________
MICHAEL Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray was accused last night of spending 47 minutes phoning another medic, a lawyer and a mystery associate after the star stopped breathing.
Panicking Murray rang fellow doc Arnold Klein for advice on what to do as Jackson lay dying.

He also allegedly called a LAWYER before finally telling a security guard to dial 911 and summon paramedics to the star's Los Angeles home.

Both Murray and Klein are being investigated by police over their role in Jackson's death, which is being treated as homicide.

Murray has claimed he tried to revive the star, but leaked court papers reveal he spent 47 minutes making three separate phone calls around the time Jackson died.

And last night Dr Steven Hoefflin – who treated Jacko for 25 years – said: "Murray definitely called Klein because Klein taught him how to administer propofol.

"There were two in-state calls then one out-of-state. He was calling an attorney – he had to because Michael was dead.

"He tried to cover it up by telling everyone Michael had a weak pulse, but Michael was dead."

Lethal
Dr Hoefflin, 63, a respected plastic surgeon who is carrying out his own probe into Jackson's death, added: "Murray would have counted on Klein to be the source of propofol and guide him in its use."

Skin specialist Klein is being probed for giving potentially lethal prescription drugs to addict Jackson.

Murray has admitted giving the star FOUR different painkillers, including propofol, on the night he died. But he never told paramedics he had administered the knock-out dose of propofol, drastically undermining their attempt to save Jackson.

The leaked warrant also reveals Klein has ignored a subpoena demanding he hand over his records.

Murray's lawyer last night claimed much of the affidavit was "police theory" and contained inaccuracies.

Court papers show Jacko, 50, had "lethal levels" of propofol when he died in June. The drug is used to anaesthetise patients for major ops. Authorities have demanded records from at least five doctors, but only Murray is named as the target of a manslaughter probe
.


Maria   October 12th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Sorry, but I don't think LaToya is above any suspicion, even if Frank DiLeo isn't exactly the most credible source in the world.

Aug 6
Jackson’s manager Frank DiLeo told Rolling Stone that there are over 100 songs that remain unreleased, but the hard drives removed from Jackson’s Los Angeles home feature songs Jackson worked on with Akon, Will.i.am and Ne-Yo.

While DiLeo says some of the material was “not up to [Jackson's] standards,” there were six songs from recent sessions that were potential hits. “I said, ‘Produce them,’ ” DiLeo told Jackson. “And he said, ‘Naw, I’m not ready for you to listen to them.’ ” In the weeks following Jackson’s death, DiLeo says every day brings a new discovery into the singer’s unheard musical vault. “There are a couple of songs we recorded for the Bad album that we had to cut that are just sensational,” DiLeo adds.

However, as Rolling Stone’s Claire Hoffman writes, the Jackson family, patriarch Joe Jackson in particular, is trying to wrestle away power of the estate away from attorney John Branca and John McClain, the two men named as executors in Jackson’s 2002 will. “They are trying to rewrite the will, trying to get control,” DiLeo tells RS. In the hours after Michael died, the family cleaned out his Los Angeles house, removing everything including the hard drives. “They thought Michael owned it all, so they took even the rented furniture,” DiLeo said.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Céline
what clip are u talking about? Can you give me the link please?


Luda   October 12th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Mila,

Just to say you were great yesterday on the other blog, you made me laugh!


Iva   October 12th, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Diane..i'm on the same boat as you..probably there was never intention in the death, yes, they're pushy, careless, only think about profit. Michael was like a walking money to them..and killing him intentionally, i doubt it..but..we'll never know human hearts particularly when it comes to huge amount of instant money..i'm still waiting for the facts being laid out..


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Cali MJ Fan October 12th, 2009 12:06 pm ET

(Article) (MyFOX NATIONAL) – With the midnight release of Michael Jackson’s single “This Is It,” some are now claiming this song is not so new.

As if Sony didnt know it was released by anothe artist? are they that incompetent.....as we all know there are royalties involved....with Sa-Fire, MJ estate and Paul Anka......you would think! Another law suit perhaps!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:25 pm ET

Iva October 12th, 2009 12:21 pm ET

In MJ's daughter's own words "they worked her father too hard".......they had no consideration for MJ's physical or mental state whatsoever! Obviously!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Céline – FR October 12th, 2009 12:05 pm ET

Was this information accurate....Latoya answered those questions and she said the place was ramsacked when she arrived and she asked the security people who had done this and they shrugged their shoulders!!!!

Could have been anybody that was in the house immediately after MJ was rushed to hospital!

I believe LaToya!


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Iva –

I go back to the flip side when Michael was accused in '93 and then arrested in 2003. Diane Demon and all of those reporters and the cops wrote stories and swore they had evidence and witnesses and MJ was tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. He asked on TV " Before you judge me, give me my day in court. It is my constitutional right as a citizen." I don't think he thought that principle appiled to just him – I believe he applied it to everyone. JMO.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Hey guys.....I just remembered it's my 35th wedding anniversary today!

Wow! Cant believe it!


Iva   October 12th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

@Lora, yes, it's so obvious they only think of $ without carefully thinking about his health..i think they were as shocked as we were when finally the end was like that..They should be responsible for this..what i was saying killing as in planned murder..but like i said, it could also be the case..i'm still waiting..


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

Lora – Thanksgiving plus anniversary. Good for you! That means you are "up" in my age category so you grew up with MJ.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 12:33 pm ET

@Lora
How would an 11 yr old know her father is being worked too hard?


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

Elisabeth USA

11 year olds are not morons! They have a keen sense of observation and MJ was extremely close to his children....his fatigue would have shown at the dinner table when he was with them......would it not......or he might have told them!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

hi everyone


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis October 12th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

Yes Diane I grew up with them and so did my kids LOL! I still have the vinyl records!


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Linda !

I'm here too.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

LindaNY

Bonjour/Hi

Welcome back!


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

@ Lora.
Ok, no need to get testy. I dont have any kids so I wouldnt know sorry.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Lora-
I agree-i think the older children would absolutely have noticed.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

All –

It looks like Christmas in Minneapolis. Two inches on the ground and strill coming down. Yikes!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Elisabeth USA October 12th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Sorry if I came across as testy! Didn't mean to!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis October 12th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

I know saw that on the new "NASTY"........and the cold is coming my way.......it could freeze....but keep the snow away!!!


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

@ Lora....

No worries!!


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:40 pm ET

Lora –

We get "testy" at our age LOL!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:40 pm ET

This is It is playing right now on my radio at work

Michael sounds wonderful.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Im from Detroit, but I live down south now and I miss the snooowww!! You guys are lucky ducks!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Diane

Yes, too much sometimes.....women our age are at a "dont give me that crap" stage! I'm not taking it any more!


Luda   October 12th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Lora,

I agree with you.
Children see a lot more things then adults imagine.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Linda-

That is so cool. Did the DJ announce it or say good things?


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

@ Diane in Minneapolis

WHO STOLE THE TAPES, MONEY, HARD DRIVE, JEWELLERIES ..??

there’s many possibilities:

*the houskeepers/bodyguars ??
*sony ??
*LaToya??

___________________________

We many never know who took the tapes, money, etc. Kai Chase said that everyone was asked to leave the home before Michael was moved and taken to the hospital. She says she didn't see Michael moved . So it seems that no one was left inside the home, no one saw Michael moved except maybe for the paramedics and Murray.

And yes Michael loved his food... gumbo, fried chicken, KFC, BBQ chicken, corn on the cob. Wow, he should have invited me to dinner sometime. LOL


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

Diane

DJ-said he sounded great –and she loves it-people are commenting on it periodically and saying he sounds great.


Judie   October 12th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

Diane testy at our age lol

Hi Linda glad you are back.

All the new kids on the block must be in school.
Watch out for 3:00 is that when they get home?


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Elisabeth-

I should have qualified. I love the snow too and the cold believe it or not. All of the seasons. That's why I live here. I am happy to see the snow it's just that I would have liked to see the fall colors first! LOL!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Judie
lol


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:49 pm ET

thanks Judie
Missed you last night at Jackson Street


mariau   October 12th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

lindafromnewyork- so happy you're back 🙂 🙂 🙂 i love you sweetie.. .


Iva   October 12th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

i never saw snow in my life..lol..i would love to one day..:)
Wow..without realizing, i kept replaying This Is It..i miss his voice..i miss him..it will probably become my LSS (last song sydrom)..lol


Lora2303   October 12th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

Love the song, i can picture Michael singing.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 12th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I am not sure Michael, as a perfectionst, would have wanted this unedited song to be released. It's great to hear his voice again, but I have mixed feelings.


mariau   October 12th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

hi eli my dear how are you? 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

Hi mariau-thanks


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

@ Diane

Fall is the best ever in my book. then Christmas.
I tell people here in SC that I miss the snow and they look at me like Im nuts. I dont care though...they dont understand.
I guess there was a 50 car pile up in Colorado....I didnt hear if anyone got hurt/killed though....


Judie   October 12th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

Linda,
I was on very late after 12:00 no work for me today hee hee 🙂


Lois   October 12th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

Lora Ottawa Canada October 12th, 2009 10:16 am ET

We cant pre-order this is it cd here in Canada…yet!
___________________________________________________

Lora – I live in BC and ordered it through amazon.ca. They will deliver it to me once the movie is released. I pre-ordered it a week or so ago.


Jan   October 12th, 2009 12:55 pm ET

125. 471. You know what, because of MJ I made music my career. Seriously. I was 10-years-old and saw the Making of Michael Jackson's Thriller on MTV and in that moment I knew music was it for me. One thing everyone who ever worked with MJ in the studio will tell you is MJ never "rushed" a release – EVER – and he would never allow a sub-par product to be released in his name.

This track is bullsh!t & you can bank on this... THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE ALMIGHTY $$$ & MJ FANS ARE BEING HAD BIG TIME!!! This song is NOT NEW. This track was co-written by MJ and he recorded the DEMO for it MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO! The MJ vocals you are hearing are NOT NEW! (That's why The Jackson's backing track & orchestra music was necessary and added to try and punch it up and ready the track for release.) THIS and THE FACT THAT THIS SONG WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A PART OF HIS LONDON SHOWS IS AN OPEN SECRET IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY! This is nothing but EXPLOITATION & PROMOTION OF THE LOWEST KIND TO PROMOTE SOUNDTRACK & TICKET SALES. This is also why in the upcoming "THIS IS IT" film release you WILL NOT see MJ performing this song – or anything close to it (other than MJ saying the phrase in conversation) – it's being pushed over the closing credits.

You have NO REASON to believe me when anyone can post anything in these forums (and that's OK) nonetheless EVERYTHING STATED ABOVE IS TRUE. This whole thing is the brainchild of Randy Jackson for the Jackson brothers upcoming "reality" show on A&E so the cameras could film the brothers recording – w/ MJ's vocals – in the studio. (A way to incorporate MJ and the THIS IS IT film production into their show.) I bet there were hi-fives all around when Randy realized he had a DEMO of MJ singing a song that included the hook "This is it".

Look, I cannot name names for professional reasons and I apologize for that because it is a cop-out, but that's the way it is. I have NO DOUBT this will ALL COME OUT in the next few weeks (especially once the film premieres.) PEOPLE ARE TALKING! Don't believe me, I understand, just remember what you read here. For those interested, I HIGHLY suggest you all keep an eye on the websites, blogs, MySpace and FaceBook pages of the musicians & producers who have worked with MJ over the years.

MANY, MANY FOLKS – with names you know well – IN THE MUSIC BIZ WHO WORKED WITH MJ ARE COMPLETELY DISGUSTED THAT THE JACKSON'S – Randy, in particular – WOULD INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATE THE INTEGRITY OF MJ'S ART IN THIS FASHION. Not cool. Releasing unfinished work product is one thing AS LONG AS IT IS LABELED AS SUCH. No Artist wants their work product messed with – especially in their name – by anyone else. And certainly not once they no longer have artistic control. Unfortunately, this is probably just the beginning. Peace all.

Posted at 6:06AM on Oct 12th 2009 by MusicGal

tmz.com/2009/10/11/michael-jackson-this-is-it-song/32#comments#ixzz0Tj1pczFH

Posted at 9:29AM on Oct 12th 2009 by mmmmmmmmmm

tmz.com/2009/10/12/michael-jackson-katherine-jackson-kids-inheritance-trust/9#comments#ixzz0Tk024BCm


Victoria J   October 12th, 2009 12:55 pm ET

I listened to Michael very early this morning and was swept up in an overflow of emotions ... and then I got in my car and the CD I had in came up with "Little Susie," followed by "Smile." It is raining here, gray and gloomy ... I am in a somber mood ... and the tears just keep falling ...

To Michael....

Thank you, Michael, for sharing with us your beautiful and pure voice which always poured forth from the essence of your soul. Thank you for listening with your entire being to grasp from that voided space the music that lay waiting to be transcended through you into something magical and mystical so that the emotional well of our souls could be filled up. You gave us more than we ever gave you and it seems you will never quit giving because your light will never be diminished in our hearts and your music with its symphonic melodies will continue to transport us to places beyond the depths of our being. We only rest here for a little while knowing you have finally received the grandest reward that awaited you in heaven ... we are happy that you are now able to rest in peace forever.

With loving gratitude for the life God breathed in you....


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 12:56 pm ET

Eli –

I like the song but I have mixed feeling too because he would have wanted to be at the mixing board, pick his background singers, and maybe add beatbox or something. I will support it though because I want him to live on. Just goes to show – no one can doi it like he did!


Jan   October 12th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

I saw that and thought people would want to see it. I like the song though.
It's the thought of sony making tumps of money out of it all that I don't like I want the children to the majority of it.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

Bonsoir Linda
je suis très contente que tu as trouvé de nouveau le blog 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

Hi Eli–How are you?

I agree with you on Michael being a perfectionist, but I think that one of the endearing things about the song is that you hear Michael's voice almost pure and untouched. It is as though he is singing live.


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

Dianne and Linda – i'm getting confused why some has negative comment about this is it song.. and why it is important to know whether it old or revive.. for me it's really makes me happy that MJ songs and album is in the market again. means people dont bother if it's old or revive.. like Elvis and Beatles as long as people would like to buy it.

secondly, so what if this old.. it's good to hear MJ's music just keeping him alive and preserving his legacy.

that's why i'm confuse..buying MJ's cd's means keeping his legacy and the who would be beniffited of these?? it's sickening.. i couldn't imagine the AEG/ Sony...

until now Murray is free..


Sandy-Houston   October 12th, 2009 1:02 pm ET

I, too have mixed feelings about the song. But I don't want to dwell on negative today. Oh...Michael. What could have been.

Linda from NY-
I'm visiting family in upstate NY this weekend. Hoping to see some fall colors. We won't see fall in TX until December! How are the colors where you live?


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:02 pm ET

Bonsoir Allure–Comment vas tu?

J'ai lu ce que tout le monde a écrit et a décidé qu'il était plus logique de continuer à défendre Michael Jackson.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Mariau – people will have differeing opinions on the song but.......if anyone tries to step into those GOLD PANTS – that's where I draw the line! LOL


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 1:06 pm ET

Mariau – have you seen the levi jeans in the "They Don't Care About Us" video? OMG.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

Linda October 12th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

All the new kids on the block must be in school.
Watch out for 3:00 is that when they get home?
--------------------------------
My kids are home...no school today. It's Columbus Day!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 1:08 pm ET

Elisabeth USA October 12th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Im from Detroit, but I live down south now and I miss the snooowww!! You guys are lucky ducks!

Snow is fun at the beginning and around xmas....after April you are sick of it LOL!


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

I agree that MJ was/is a perfectionist and he would never let this song out the way it is. I LOVE the song, dont get me wrong, but it just seems like it couldve used a little more work maybe? I dont know, JMO.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

@2bad
What?–


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

Dianne – ok, then let it go for the sake of MJ.. in my opinion it was released because of his Movie This is it.. this is one way of promoting the movie..
as fans we can not decide too.. if this is right to released or not.. the promoter of the movie..

this is up to us .. up to the people .. if they want it they will buy it.. whether its old or revive.. who cares.. still it's MJ's music..


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

***Sorry, that last post by me was for Judie, not Linda!!***


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

@Lora,
After I lived in Detroit, I moved to Buffalo, so......yes April comes and Im ready for SUMMER!! 12ft high snow drifts can be a little much day in and day out...I still miss it though.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Diane

Yes I have--Gorgeous-


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

@ Linda:

Sorry, I meant to say that to Judie not you! I am bad at this posting stuff...


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel October 12th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I am not sure Michael, as a perfectionst, would have wanted this unedited song to be released. It’s great to hear his voice again, but I have mixed feelings.

Hi Eli

I know the feeling....I thought and it came across that it was a BRAND NEW SONG and it turns out it's not....Sa-fire recorded it under "I Never Heard" in 1991.....and "I" believe they are re-using it and changed the title to benefit the movie! Do you think MJ would be turning in his grave right now?


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

2bad
no worries


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Elisabeth USA – yes MJ said it he is a perfectionist, during Oprah interview.. he created his music by his blood.. putting all his energy and uniqueness.
this is song it's wonderful and beautiful match to his movie.. i don't care if it's old or revived.. as long as you will his magical voice.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

ElizabethUSA

Did you say you live in BUFFALO


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

No matter what....MJ sounds wonderful and I am going to buy CD when it comes out and I am going to see move 3x! Another 2 weeks!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

Linda
bien, merci! Excellente décision. Notre group ici a besoin d’une supportrice comme toi.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:15 pm ET

@ Elizabeth:

I live about an hour from Buffalo!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

Lora Otawa – i gree with you this is song just to promote his movie this is.. and i could see nothing wrong about it.
whether this is song was 2 decades ago..


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:18 pm ET

Lora me too no matter what.. i'm going to buy it and watch his movie 10x and wait the release of DVD this is it..


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

I do think that regardless of how we feel about the song we need to suppot Michael. I never tought it was new song–Michael had tons of unreleased music. When you think about it, It is new song, we never heard it before. Michael sounds great. His voice is totally pure. I like the fact that the song was not messed with. We are hearing it the way Michael recorded it and I think that is special.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

2bad
where are you?albany?


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

linda – very well said.. as usual.. 🙂 you're great


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

lindany

Right on!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

Dianne – i'm serious today.. yes.. i've seen that Levis jeans at they dont care about us.. oooohhhh MJ has huge ______ heart i mean 🙂

as i said i'm serious today.. without god pants.. 🙂 LOL
come dianne let' take some coffee..


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

I received my copy of Moomwalker and I started to read it–I didn't get it when it was originally released because I thought I knew everything about Michael–was I wrong? anyway do you know that he mentioned in the book that when he was little The Jackson played at club called the Regal. Talk about coming full circle?


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

where is my L for my gold pants.. hahaha.. need to drink coffee now 🙂 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

Of course I meant Moonwalk-–


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

thanks mariau and lora


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

linda – sweetie.. i will buy Moonwalker.. i send you message in your facebook

Lora Otawa – i'm looking your name on vegas fans tribute.. i couldn't find you.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

@ Linda and 2 Bad...

Yes, I lived in Buffalo....Amherst to be exact. Now Im down south and I hate it!! Too flippin hot!! I cant do anything with my hair........EVER!.
I like the ocean and dolphins and palm tress though...


janice   October 12th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

I'm livid!

I OWN EVERYTHING MICHAEL JACKSON HAS EVER RELEASED. I am 45 years old! I have cried every day since he died! His death has hurt me more than even my own first degree (yes siblings) death. For one, I guess I thought I would never live to see him die and the thought of him dying never crossed my mind…not once! Secondly, because he has single handedly shaped my views on almost every cultural issue there is, as well as racism, world peace, charity, not judging others, bearing false witness, parenting. You name it…I learned through his music, his charitable acts of kindness, etc. There was no one else and never will be anyone that brought me the personal joy that I received from him. He was the ONLY star in my world and always will be!

I own every DVD, every CD, bootleg copies of live concerts from all over the world, bootleg copies of televised acceptance speeches, humanitarian speeches and interviews, Moonwalker, Dancing the Dream, Moonwalk. You name it, I OWN IT!

Michael was a PERFECTIONIST. He never wanted anything but PERFECTION for his fans! He LITERALLY killed himself in his quest to deliver PERFECTION for all of us….because he cared about the quality of his craft and his creations.

This song was not good enough to make it on his Off The Wall album and it is OBVIOUS now why it did not make it on that album. No one can miss Michael anymore than I do. There are millions who miss him as much, but no one any more than I do! Nor is there anyone who defends him more passionately than myself. His name is always on my lips. I have defended him through all his trials and tribulations and have been an active voice and advocate of his. I daily promote Michael Jackson Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones, The Untold Story of Neverland by Larry Nimmer, and Redemption by Geraldine Hughes. I own a copy of the entire 2005 trial transcripts, 13000 pages and have read every one of them.

I will not stop doing defending him now by "pretending" that this "new release" is “great” or even “good.” He would be absolutely ashamed at what Sony has just done to him and his legacy. Yeah, the judge approved it and the Jacksons approved it because they are trying to make a quick buck and to hell with Michael's legacy. They don't care.

As Michael always said about those who betrayed him….ANYTHING FOR MONEY! And SONY (and his brothers) can now be included in that group!

They definitely will not be getting MY MONEY!

Love and defend you forever, Michael!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Janice – very wonderful post.. you're words speaks mine too.. very well said.... and God bless you my dear.. brilliant message for all us..


Allure   October 12th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

so you guys will not buy the CD This is it? I will definately, though I have already all songs on different CD's and even though the "new/old" song does not convince me yet. I'm gonna buy the CD because of the poems spoken by Michael himself. I just can't wait the hear his voice..........!!!!!!


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Hi everybidy!Eny news?


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

@ Janice
Are you the same Janice from the other day who thought MJ was still alive? Saying a double was sleeping at his house on the 24th-25th and HE was the one that died? Was that you?


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

allure – 😀 😀 my dear


Iva   October 12th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

i will..i've preordered.. 🙂 that's how desperate i'm at hearing his voice!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

@janice
"they definitely will not be getting my money!"
Janice
you are right but I'm sure the fans will buy the CD anyhowm just because there IS something new – MJ poems!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

mariau 🙂
I suppose you agree, right????


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

@ Linda and Elizabeth:

I live in a small town called Wellsville. It is a really backwoods sort of place! I don't like it here at all and my husband and I are looking to get out of "Hillbilly Haven"...lol!
I grew up near Rochester, NY and will hopefully be back there again soon...


janice   October 12th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

@ Elisabeth, USA

Not me! Michael was murdered. And the truth about that will soon come out. My first post was last night after I heard the song at michaeljackson dot com. I stayed up to hear it and I have been furious ever since. Michael alive? Are you kiddin' me? Are there that many people out there that don't know what really went on in the days before his death? He missed rehearsal on June 13, 14 and 16, and mysteriously John Branca resurfaces as being executive of his will....written in 2002, on June 17th and eight days later he is dead? The John Branca that Michael was having investigated in 2005 over his interest in the Sony Cataloge? Wake up people!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:50 pm ET

allure – of course i agree 100% 🙂


DCT   October 12th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Hello everyone!

Guys, what if the real This is it song will be released only in the movie, with a video, and maybe, with a new dance move?
I mean, what if this ¨old¨ song was released just to promote the movie and the ¨new¨ song will be the surprise at the end of the movie?

Michael sweetie, I love you so much! You are a GENIUS!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

Mariau

Look for "Laura Munroe" LOL!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

I just saw on TV how the This is it single has been brought to the Sony headquarter in London last night. Perfectly staged, big show!


mariau   October 12th, 2009 1:55 pm ET

Lora – ah ok... 🙂 🙂 i will


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 1:55 pm ET

Flawless, I just heard the song again. When did he take a breath.. it seems like the sound, the words the voice...just come out of him without ever having to take a deep breath to sing the words. I notice that about his singing....its like the songs just came out effortlessly.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

@ Janice:

I agree. He was murdered. I just hope the truth DOES come out. There are too many things that don't add up and people are covering things up big time. I just hope and pray that these people will be exposed. Sometimes I think I am fooling myself when I feel that the truth will come out.? It's just too big of a mess...


Tina (Germany)   October 12th, 2009 2:01 pm ET

I have hard times listen to that song, I wonder if I can really watch the movie. Maybe in one year. Don't know. I will buy the movie but I am sure I will just put it to the other DvDs and will wait. No idea when I will be able to really watch it. Who knows.....


Tink   October 12th, 2009 2:04 pm ET

Michael; you shared with the world your exceptional gifts of music and dance which you took great pride in and worked so very hard to achieve and hone to perfection. Thank you so much for sharing your special gifts with us all and know that what you did and what you gave of yourself was not in vain. I’ve said it before you were the Master Michael then, now (with This Is It) and for always. They say the heart misses what it loved most and this is so true because that fateful day we your fans not only lost the greatest artistic genius/entertainer the world has and will ever know but most of all a very kind, gentle and compassionate human being which sadly the world needs more of these days and even though there are many of us especially my bbff's who never met you or had the opportunity to tell you so in person but please know that WE TRULY DID LOVE YOU MORE.


StrInMos   October 12th, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Michael, don`t be offended at people who talk about your "death" and don`t try to convince or correct their souls and minds.
It is simpler to love you like a "deadman" for them.
Just do all you have to do!
And I want you to know we have supported you anyway
We have just tired remain in the dark and media games with our poor brains.
And tell us please – why your country doesn`t send to retire people who makes the total nonsense on TV screen?
  And also we hope you don`t angry at events at Septembre 1993 but than you did make an amazing song!
Now the situation is more civilized))
I`ll see you in July......Which one of Julys you had kept in mind?
Explain to us, please. because we are still wait for it.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

Tina

You seem so confused hon!


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

2 bad

__________________________________
The only hope we have is that the official's in charge are doing their job..they have to. We are taking about Michael here. The the most recognized person on the planet...believe me people are watching and the authorities know that. They know they can not do this unless it is done right. And I hope that Murray will start talking when it looks like he may take the fall alone for something that many people were involved with. I still have hope that justice will prevail.

As for the song I pre-ordered.. only because it is Michael and I want to keep his legacy alive. I don't like the thought that other are profitting but it is Michael.......his work.....his legacy.


lola   October 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

Janice-
I like the song "This Is It". Maybe not his best, but that beautiful voice is unmistakenly HIS. After his passing, his voice and music has even more meaning than before. His past work is all we have of him now, therefore I will support all his music, past, present and whatever is released in the future. A bit annoying that his brothers are singing backup on the song. I do feel they are pushing themselves into all aspects of MJ to make a profit for themselves at the fan's expense.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

@ Janice.
Relax. I just asked a little question. Im sorry I upset you....wasnt my intention.


Tina (Germany)   October 12th, 2009 2:11 pm ET

@ Lora – not confused, just sad and tired of people asking me what is up when I am not funny like I am normaly are and when I answer honestly I receive a uhhhhhh don't you think it is enough by now.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

janice
I remember you said that MJ's double was killed on June 25th and that MJ is under police protection


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

Tina

Understand! Feelings are not easily understood by all!


Anne   October 12th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

If only Sony had promoted his Invincible album they way they are promoting this "new" song This Is it..........


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

Could she be a different Janice??
I remember reading that too, but maybe it's a different person.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

@ Allure

THANK YOU!! I knew I read that from her!! Maybe a different Janice.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:20 pm ET

Hallo Tina
I can understand u very well. I felt the same when we were talking about the Tribute concert in Vienna, end of September would have been too early and though I leave near Austria I didn't get a ticket, couldn't just handle the fact that other people will perform Michael's songs. But I think June next year will be great.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

Tina
what I tried to say is Zeit heilt alle Wunden..............
Take your time


janice   October 12th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

@ 2 bad and Anne

This blog is crazy. Is there another Janice on this blog? I don't know...but I would assume there are thousands of women named Janice.

All I want to say to Michael's loving fans is that we need to find justice for him because he was murdered. I'm at work and have to get off.

What I wanted to say can be found at my posts written at 1:33 and 1:49. As for another Janice.......I have no idea where their posts may be. I didn't see anyone named Janice on the blog I posted on late last night or on this one today.

Love you and defend you forever, Michael.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

@mariau
do u have any idea where Stu is? Can't belive sh's not here today


lola   October 12th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

lva-
I loved the article you posted...Funny, I wasn't aware he was an under rated singer..I always thought his talent was so obvious .....
I wanted so much for this song to be successful and for all generations to realize his talent and what a tremendous loss to the world occurred on June 25, 2009. After reading the article, I am hopeful I may get my wish.


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

I am here 🙂


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

@ Janice:

I know all too well that this blog can get crazy. It's hard to keep track of who's who when people steal other people's "name's".
I read a couple of days ago a post from a Janice that said Michael had a body double and he was the one in the bedroom that got murdered.
I realize that there are many women named Janice, so I am not accusing you of anything 🙂


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

I was here.I was wrighd few times today,but never nobody answered,so i give up.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Is there anyone on here who believes Michael to be alive?


Jan   October 12th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

there was a Janice on here the other day saying mj was alive.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 2:32 pm ET

@ Elizabeth
Yes, I beLIEve


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

Elisabeth USA October 12th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Is there anyone on here who believes Michael to be alive?

I dont personnally.....but why drudge up what was said a day ago....that "Janice" is not here and lets let it go at that!


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Hi Tunde, Hungary


Marianna (B)   October 12th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Michael,

you are really a tough taker – all these microscopic eyes on you.
Hope you have a good giggle over it all.
Take care, hugs and many smiles,

Marianna


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

@ Lora..

My question was a whole different question and had nothing to do with Janice. I was just asking for my own curiousity, thats all...


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 2:40 pm ET

@ Elisabeth:

I don't think he is, but everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

HI Tunde I have to get use to the name on here– Hi Tink


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

@ 2 bad......

From what Ive seen, it seems as though if someone believes him to be alive then they get slapped around....which isnt fair.


Butterfly   October 12th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

I've been listening the song for all day long and crying...
Oh Gosh! I miss Michael a lot...day-by-day, more and more 🙁


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 2:44 pm ET

Elisabeth and 2 bad
My sister use to live in Saratoga–do you know where that is-
Buffalo–has a hell of a winter.


Jan   October 12th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

this is on the conrad murray blog from 9.10.09:

janice October 9th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Stu,

MJ called Frank Dileo in the wee hours of the morning on the 25th stating he was not feeling well. I think the double was at Holmby Hills that night and yes, he (the double) is the one who got the lethal dose of propofol that night.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

@Anne
Hi,
yes, that's what I often think too. The Invicible CD contains many great songs from a grown-up man who gained a lot of experience of life


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

Hi everybody 🙂
I see,CNN blocked the fake guy


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

@ Elisabeth:

I don't think that's fair either. I have talked to people who think he is still alive and that's fine with me. I am very open minded and I do not judge people on their beliefs at all. I try to listen to all sides.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

@ Elisabeth
Glad you noticed that. It's a shame too because we are all here for one purpose, MJ. We all want to know the truth. We all examine the evidence. But the fact I think he is alive and well makes me just as much an outcast as Michael was made by the media. Sad really if you think about it. It's not a good way to honor this kind man in anyway to resort to bullying and name calling. My advice, try to avoid the dark side as much as possible. It just gets worse.
L.O.V.E. and hugs


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

@ Jan...

I think I know who you are !!! LOL!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Elisabeth
I agree everyone is entitled to their own beliefs absolutely, but the problem I have is someone coming on here claiming to be Michael Jackson.


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Looks like we have 1 Jan and perhaps 2 Janice's.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Anyway- I don't want get into that today–Lets keep the peace–lol


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

Hi Jan.Nothing would be suprice me.Ther is not one point of the storie,what is correct,and have only 1 version.The guy here call **mj** i am sure not Michael,but i am so not sure,what realy happend.Non of the news is korrect,matbe yhis one eider.Now i am on the 50-50 position.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

Tunde October 12th, 2009 2:46 pm ET
Hi
Yes and I am glad he is.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

@lindafromnewyork:

Is Saratoga in the Adirondacks? That's quite far from me.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

Allure

I agree, the Invincible album has great songs....all......of them!


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 2:52 pm ET

@ Linda..

Yes, Buffalo really sucks in the winter. REALLY sucks. Its especially fun when there is black ice on the road and your driving up a hill!!! And, yes, I have heard of Saratoga....I think. It sounds familiar.

@ 2 bad and ibelieve...

I happen to be a girl who thinks he is alive so....Ibelieve, you and I are on the same page then. YAY!! Woooot!!

@ Tunde...how do you know they blocked **mj**?


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

@ Elizabeth
Never give up the good fight. Do not let them shake your faith.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

Stu took a walk over to the light side


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

I'm new here,but I also think Michael is alive. So...I guess that makes 3 of us lol.


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

did they really block **mj**?


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

@ Brittani.
Welcome, but guess what? You are not alone! and there are more than 3 of us as well.
L.O.V.E


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

2 bad–Saratoga is near Albany

Elizabeth–oh yeah-Fun, fun, fun.


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Jan,i dont understand,how come from the information,thet Miclahel called FD,that the duble wwas in hes home.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

Tunde

Do you really think MJ would have someone killed?


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

@ lindafromnewyork:

Oh, ok. I bet it's beautiful this time of the year but horrible driving conditions in the winter, like it is here.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

lora and allure

I love Invincible-Speechless and Butterflies–Wow-well okay all of Invincible.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

@ Brittani
Nah, I am sure **mj** will show back up at some point. **mj** just has something to say, but gets slammed. I think that's a form of censorship if I am not mistaken. But who I am to say that, I am just one of the believers.


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

@ ibelieve

Thanks for the welcome! I think it's awesome that there are more than just 3 of us. Actually, I think that more and more people are starting to realize that Michael is alive and well.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

@ ibelieve......

NEVER!!!!! That is one thing I never allow people to do. If I believe in something, they can try to dissuade me all they want, but I never falter from my own feeling in my heart. I do, however enjoy taking in all sides of the situation. I like to hear everyones opinion....and I RESPECT their opinion. So, all I ask is the same respect for mine.


Jan   October 12th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

I posted the above just too illustrate there was a janice on here 9/10/09 who believes MJ is alive. She posted a lot on that blog that has since been removed.


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Elizabeth,i dont know... 🙂 But i know,Patty was send e-mail to CNN,and now he is not here.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Why does there have to be a divide between believers and non-believers? We are all here because we love Michael Jackson 🙂


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

@ Brittani...

Hey Brit!! You know me....I have talked to you through email...please dont say my real name though ok? LOL
How are you today?


Butterflies   October 12th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

That makesfour of us lol!!


jasmine   October 12th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

i to also believe michael's alive somewhere
we just have to keep fighting
keep the faith!!!


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

I believe 🙂 i took a walk everywhere.I said,i am not gonna be in any groop,i dont know,whats the trou,and i whant to love everybody


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

@ Elizabeth. I also like to look at both sides, in a calm respectable manner. We are all seeking the truth, whatever that means for each of us. Wouldn't it be more productive to do it together, than bicker? Just my opinion. You can't put together a puzzle when you don't have all the right pieces. And you should be open minded to look at other's opinions, even if you don't agree. Plus, allow those who have something to say, ANYTHING to say, do so without the name calling or threats. Just my opinion.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

@Brittani
Hi!
just because I'm curious........ "MJ is alive and well"
But where is he??


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:08 pm ET

Stu..we love you too. HUGS


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

I started to say the "dark side" thing,not becouse i was thinking about believers and not believers,but i was thinking about negativitis and pozitivs,so the peaples on the dark side,who are arguing...


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

2 bad October 12th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Why does there have to be a divide between believers and non-believers? We are all here because we love Michael Jackson

So right, we are not here to differentiate our beliefs we are here for one main cause Michael Jackson and the esteem and love we have for him and we will be here till justice is served!

If people want to believe that is fine....but let's talk about Michael's legacy and not if he is alive or not....everything will come out soon! I hope1


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

@Lina
T'as vu? On recommence....... c'est pas possbile..... 🙂


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

oupssssss @Linda 🙂


Anne   October 12th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

Jan That was a great interview. Thanks for sharing!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

Jan-yes-Thank you


Judie   October 12th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

@Tink,

IHUG nicely said.. bbff 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

Allure–you do that alot–lol


Butterflies   October 12th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

@Lora

You summed it up beautifully!!


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Lora,why not?Its possible.We was talk this over million times.he had power,that Sony didnt whant.Or he was not strong inough for 50 koncerts and rehearsels,and ARG didnt whant to luse money.Or simply just Murrey was an idiot...Everithing is possible.We have never see a true version of the storie.

But the "pains" at the memorial is very strange.How that could be?Recorded earlier,just nobody knows?


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Tunde ?????????? 🙂


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

@ Lora
Thanks. That's how I feel, can't we all just get along? By pulling together we might find that truth faster, whatever that truth may be.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:15 pm ET

Linda
what? Saying oupssssssssss?? 🙂


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:15 pm ET

@ Ibelieve...

This is true!!

@ Tunde

I saw over the weekend what Patty did and it infuriated me. Why would she do that? She has NO PROOF that Mj is dead so Im not really sure why she did that. NO ONE has seen a body except for the fake ass ambulance pic, sooo........I almost posted something to her but I held my tongue or else I would have regretted it. I hate when people are dead set on ruining things for other people. she should have just ignored it. Why go through all the trouble?
I really enjoy reading the real **mj** posts and it gives me a sense of peace (dont beat me up) to know he may be here. And I really resent someone trying to take that away from me.
He'll be back though...I can feel it!!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:15 pm ET

Lora
I totally agree-Beatifully said-We all loved Michael–How long are we going to keep going at each other-


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:16 pm ET

@ Stu, you are correct, at this point there are so many variables. Only a few know the truth. What we have been fed is lies. All of us, no matter what your opinion is. Now, are we going to continue to be the sheep led to slaughter?


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

I must say one thing; I haven't been here long,but since I've been posting here,I've noticed that **mj** was one of the more nicer people here to chat with. He was always calm,friendly, and never belittled or said a bad thing about anyone here. Even when he was being bashed and personally attacked,he NEVER, not once retaliated. I think that says alot about his character and him as a person. It's disgusting the way people attacked him,when he didn't do anything but try to make peace and spread L.O.V.E


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

@ Lora...

Believers and non-believers UNITE!!!! Cmon peeps!! I dont wanna see anymore fighting on here or you'll have to answer to me!!! Grrrrrr!! LOL


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

So, if we can all get along, since I am new here, can we talk about why there are 4 different 911 calls? Each one, the same male callers, supposed to be only "one" call, and why it never was dispatched over the radio? Did the firetruck and ambulance operators have ESP?


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

Allure–call me Lina


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

@ Elisabeth.
Super Soakers work the best in my opinion.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

ibelieve
check the name...........


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

Hi Elizabeth! Yes I know you,haha. I'm great, but a little tired,from all the studying I've been doing today. How have you been?


Judie   October 12th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

IMO,

I think no news is good news on the investigation..
I don't want them to rush through this, and make sure when they take someone down he or they go down for good.

We must be patient if we really want justice.

You can't fool the fans.

TNO


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

Butterflies,ibelieve,,indafromnewyork

Thanks, we should really try harder......I, myself included, difficult somtimes!

We are "only human!!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

Linda 🙂 🙂 🙂


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

@ Allure.
Sorry don't understand the statement?
You mean my name?


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

@ Allure

I know he's alive,but I have no idea where he currently is.


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

Elisabeth

LOL LOL! You have to step back and laugh at this arguing!!! or should I say disagreements!


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

I feel really good right now! Everyone is getting along...that's great 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

Judie
Lets hope LAPD does an excellent job-I have doubts but I try to keep the faith-I am ready to see that Quack on the News–in handuffs-


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

@ Lora
Don't give up. Trying to keep an open dialogue is the best route. Like I said, we all want the truth.


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

@ ibelieve

You are ABSOLUTELY right. There are 4 different 911 calls. Why is that?


blackorwhite   October 12th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

the dome project....this is it..this is the movie!!!!


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

@ ibelieve..

Ah yes....Super Duper Ultra super Soakers!!! LOLOL!!!
And water balloons!!! I really suck at water balloon fights. I mean REALLY suck.... I NEVER wear a white tee shirt durng a water balloon fight!! HAAA!!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

correction–handcuffs


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:25 pm ET

Elisabeth,yes,she dont believe,MJ is a life,but the problem was not that.You could see some of **mj** answeres,that this guy is not Michael,and he made somuch peaples confused,and that what she whant to stope.I agree,that guy was fake,i am sure after 2 of hes comments,and i dont agree olso to pley peaples feelings and make them so confused by a stupid game.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

And why wasnt the "burial" ever called a funeral? Ive never heard anyone call it the funeral...."Oh, Im sorry, I cant go to dinner tonight, Im going to Michael Jacksons burial"......NOT!


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

@ Brittani
That I do not know the answer to. It certainly adds to the mystery. It's another piece of the puzzle. One I had hoped that others would have input for here. I am open to all viewpoints. It's just one way of showing the world you can not trust the media. It took people from all over the world to catch this. Each 911 call was "leaked" to a different media outlet. Each one was a little different. Curious.

@ Blackorwhite
I think they are 2 separate projects.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

@Brittani
OK. And do u think he will show up later on, in a year or two?
Don't get me wrong, I just try to understand


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

Another fan mentioned this to me thought I would share with you guys

I've found Thriller and Sabu the two Bengal Tigers that belonged to Michael, he was forced to give them away after he left Neverland. Since 2006 they have been living at Shambala Preserve in Antelope Valley -CA. Tippi Hedren is the president she is Melanie Griffith's Mother and the preserve lives on donations so I thought that maybe we could spread the word and help her keep them living well. You know how much Michael loved those animals and I am sure he missed them very much I only imagine how hard it must had been for him to give them away.
Anyway, here is their website: shambala.org you can see Thriller and Sabu's photos they are beautiful.


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

Michael- even after all these years, you still da man!

Love you Michael ♔


Just Wondering   October 12th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

ibelieve you sound alot like unbreakable hmmm


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:31 pm ET

@ 2 bad

Thanks for posting this! This is my first time seeing him tap dance. He's absolutely adorable here.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

OMG!!! Ive never seen that video before!!! I LOVE IT!!!


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

@ Allure
No one can answer that question fairly because none of us really knows Michael Jackson. We all know the persona, not the man. I for one will not speculate on how or when he will appear. He may never appear. Only time will tell. Meanwhile, can't you be open and join a friendly dialogue of trying to get to the truth?


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:33 pm ET

@ Allure

Honestly, i don't know if and when he will return,but I also think he's leaving clues for a reason.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

@just wondering
Nope. Unbreakable I am not. I am me. Have never posted under any other name but this one. See what happens when someone offers you an intelligent comment? You immediately become suspicious, why is that?


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

Is there anything this man can't do?! Wow


Jen   October 12th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

The song is great! Not like his others, but no one could do it like Michael. We can't expect every new release (or re-release) song to come out to be a masterpiece even though he was a master at music. Everyone has work that they aren't happy with and this one may have been on the back burner for some time and like the article said it was titled "This is It", they listened to it, thought it went with the theme of the tour and ran with it. It probably shouldn't have been rushed, but in any respect we get to hear him again.

Unfortunately this whole money making situation is a double edged sword. The world wants to hear more from Michael and keep his legacy alive but in the end someone is going to make money off this, that's the way the world works. It may not be who we would like to see make money but at the same time all the fans want to hear more from Michael, so much that they will never get enough. If we want his legacy to live on it has to be accepted that Sony, AEG, Lawyers, Managers and whoever else involved are going to make money, right now they have the copyrights and authority to do so. Could you imagine the chaos if they said "Nope where not going to release anything." They never would, they are set for life now if the whole industry goes down, but could you imagine? The fans would be screaming for the music and be outraged that his musical legacy was left in the dust. No matter the feelings anyone has for Sony, AEG, Lawyers, Managers etc they are seeing that his fan base and legacy are being fullfilled and will be for generations to come, to some extent you have to appreciate this and be thankful. You might not like where some of the money goes, but support it for the Katherine, the kids and the charities he left his estate to. I won't download any music of Michael's I'll go out and buy the CD's. DVD's etc and tell my self everytime "it's for the kids".

I haven't posted in a while but I have been reading the blogs and trying to keep up to date, but I must say that I was really disappointed to read that there was some hurtful and mean things being slung around the boards. I know each of you have Michael in your heart, but I am afraid his message tends to get lost. Where is the love? I hope that those that posted in distain are remorseful and those that were hurt by others words can be forgiving.

How can we help make the world a better place if we can't come together to show love to eachother in an online community? People come to the blogs to laugh, to cry, to share memories, to brighten someones day, to discuss the latest news etc.. We all come together every day because of Michael 🙂 I guess my main point is to remember to have an open heart and an open mind when reading other peoples posts there are many different views out there and we have to show acceptance to others opinions and beliefs. You don't have to share in the beliefs but be respectful of those that are different than you.

Just my thinking for the day!

Happy Thanksgiving my fellow Canadian bloggers! 🙂


Diane in Minneapolis   October 12th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

All –

Where did the information come from regarding several 911 calls made as opposed to just one 911 call made? I have not seen this before.


zzddog   October 12th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

The kept the best music OFF the Radio for years and now they put out a demo and want you to buy it.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

@Jenn
Very well stated. Thank you.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

@ diane
Try looking on youtube. You should find it there.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

ibelieve
u think I'm not friedly?? I am a realistic person and when I am questioning you guys means that I try to understand why do u think what u think (hope u can understand what I mean, English is not my mother language)


lola   October 12th, 2009 3:39 pm ET

Happy 35th Anniversary Lori- Wow! That's a big number....Congratulations!


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:39 pm ET

@ Diane

I've watched a video on youtube, about the four 911 calls.


Judie   October 12th, 2009 3:40 pm ET

@ 2 bad,

Thank you I never saw that before.Do I see a little Fred Astaire in him?
His talent always amazes me still.


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

I think,you can see in hes pop dance the step dance stuf.Its not suprice me,but i olso never see from hem this klassic step dance before.But i was sure,he is based on stepdance.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

I beleive
Why do we even have to get on that topic at all–it seems it cause snothing but anger. There is so much that we can be discussing about Michael Jackson. Why don't we all just keep our personal beliefs to ourselves and talk about how we can help to get justice for Michael, The media persecution of Michael, why don't we talk about what we are going to to about that, etc. So many things that we can talk about. I am not dictating what we should talk about–just saying that we need to Come Together as Michael Jackson Fans.


rfergy   October 12th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

I agree time to stop fighting! The reason I always came back to these blogs were to talk with other Michael Fans and too see all the interesing articles, photos, and youtube videos that everyone posts. We should go back to when it was all about loving MJ!!!!


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:44 pm ET

@ Allure
I am also realistic. From the very beginning something never quite added up. I haven't always been a believer. But, once I rationally read people's opinions, view evidence for myself, I came to my conclusion. That's why it's my hope for everyone to get along. I think you all are missing some key pieces that is not being shared because those who have it, are afraid of the name calling and personal attacks. Does that make sense? If you don' t have my viewpoint, that's ok, I will still respectfully listen to you. Yesterday I was personally attacked, so you can understand why I might be defensive. I think wacko was used. Well, folks, Michael was called wacko, so I am in good company. Look at what it did to him? We are the only ones who can band together in large numbers and stop the madness. Find the truth, no matter what that is. And if he is truly gone, I will gladly accept that. Think for a moment, just a what if: What if the one person we all love and adore was posting on here, and was being attacked by his fans who claim to love him so much. Then you found out later who he was. Would it make you feel good about yourself? No. Would you feel guilty, yes. So stop that before it happens. Let's find the truth together.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

@ Diane...
Yep, Ive seen it too. There is areal call, and 2 others that were chopped up. I'll see if I can find it for you.

@ Jen...Its called Supply and Demand.....


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

Brittani
I never saw that either-can you fill us in on it–can't watch you tube at work.


Just Wondering   October 12th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

ibelieve

how do you even know who unbreakabel is? hmmm


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

@ linda
Justice begins from the beginning, would you agree? I am not here trying to change your mind or your opinion. You want justice, then you have to start at square one. I thought the 911 calls were a great topic to start with. Is there some reason you disagree?


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

2Bad

He was such a natural at everything he did! Where in heck did you find this video?


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

@ just wondering
Because I have read the blogs. Unbreakable has many posts in them.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

i beleive
no I don't disagree-I didn't see that post for some reason–I always had a problem with that 911 call-I've always said that I thought that Alvarez sounded like he was orderint take out-too damm calm for me.


mary u from ohio   October 12th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

**mj**....
I'm waiting.... One hand i have the Water Balloon & in the Other hand is the Super Soaker... You won't see me til around 7:00pm....til Then it's Hide & Seek... Love You Mary


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

@ linda
sorry you didn't see it. It's the best place to start for justice. It was too rehearsed and if you listen carefully, well, you make your own judgment, ok? Like I said, I am not here to change your mind, rather work together.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

Hey Guys!

@Linda

I agree with your comments regarding Alvarez and the 911 call.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

i beleive
My judgment is that michael was already dead when that 911 call was made and that is why that Alvarez was so calmed–


Anon   October 12th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Well just to add to the list. You have another believer here.

Looks as if our list is growing.


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

@ ibelieve

I hear Michael in the background.


Mila   October 12th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Why are there no news yet about how the song did ?
The suspense is just killing me.

CNN,
Question for you too:
How come Kate and Jon make it to the top news almost every day and you mention MJ only in your blogs ?
Give us 'the' top news in entertainment – topic of the day – THIS IS IT 🙂


rfergy   October 12th, 2009 3:56 pm ET

@Elisabeth USA

Thanks for posting that!!!!! SO HOT!!!


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 3:56 pm ET

And also, have you guys seen the stretcher pics?


mary u from ohio   October 12th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

ibelieve ...
Just stopped bye for a minute. keep it going... peace....


Jen   October 12th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

@Elizabeth USA

Yes, totally understand supply and demand, but have read a lot of posts lately saying that Sony, AEG etc shouldn't be profiting. Sony, I believe, holds the majority of his copyrights therefore they are in the position to do so. It is what it is if we want the legacy to live on.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

@ linda
That's ok you believe that, but why are there 4 different calls? And why did that call never go out across the radio? The fact it did not, would explain why no police presence was there, and that there was only one pap there. If it had gone out on over the radio, the media who scans those frequencies, would have flocked to Carrollwood. None of that makes logical sense.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

Brittani
you hear Michael in the background?
Which tape are you referring to where you hear Michael–on the original 911 call tape that was released? I've listened to that tape many times–I only hear the dispather, Alvarez and Quack Murray–


Mila   October 12th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

@scarecrow,
how are you today ?

do you know how's the song doing so far ?


Judie   October 12th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

Gold Pants and Yellow shirt someone give me a fan cause it's hot in here. 🙂


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

Elisabeth USA October 12th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

@ rfergy….or this vid!! So fiiine! **sigh**

Oh my! Was he gorgeous or what? He sweated so much during his performance.....oh Michael!


Brittani   October 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

@ ibelieve

I also find it weird that Jermaine announced Michael's death,and not a law enforcement officer.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

Hi Samanthat
How are you today?


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

Hi All !
Hi Linda ! 🙂
Are you dicussing the 911 call ? Did you see the Jacques Piretti documentary ? He interviewed the 911 department who took the call.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

@ Mary. Peace and love always. Talk to you later tonight.


Serenity   October 12th, 2009 4:01 pm ET

I also believe that MJ is very much alive and that the entire truth will eventually be revealed. There are just too many inconsistencies and coincidences; too many holes and unexplained events. Start putting the pieces of the puzzle together and you begin to see that something else is going on here...

Love you more Michael!
It's all for love, L.O.V.E.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:03 pm ET

@Linda

Yes,its highly likely that Michael was already dead,in fact may be much earlier than what Murray told authorities!Actually I heard somewhere that when Michael was turned over on his back either by the paramedics or doctors at UCLA,blood had settled which is consistent with hypostasis commonly known as post mortem staining and this is ONLY present in bodies who have been dead for about two to six hours.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:03 pm ET

Hi Maureen
how are you today?


Lora Ottawa Canada   October 12th, 2009 4:04 pm ET

Hi Maureen

Bye All!

Going for the rest of day....I have people coming over for dinner!

Celebrating Thanksgiving and my 35th wedding anniversary today!

Happy blogging....till tomorrow

Good videos guys!


Brigida, Italy   October 12th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

good afternoon/evening!

I heard the song many times now and I like it. Sounds like the old Jackson5 and the early Michael as he starts his Solo career. But perhaps I'm mixing my memories? Reading your comments about Sony and other things... hm. Obviously they all try to cash in in all ways possible but this is business all over the world and not only by Sony. Don't like it but we can hardly stop them. I will not buy the CD, only wish I can get the DVD of the movie when I'm not able to see it on big screen. And, like Tina, I don't know if I will be able to watch it soon.

I'm also upset with the story about Randy Jackson. If it's true... I thought he was not that bad – like I thought always about Jermaine and even LaToya. But I try to understand them. They have to earn money now without Michael and perhaps making new albums will be the only way. So sad!


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

Maureen,no!Please,give us the video!


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

@ Maureen
I did not see that documentary, do you know where I might find it? I would be interested to see that

@ Brittani
Yes, very strange that no one from UCLA made the announcement. They are lots of things strange. Let's see is we can focus on one first together, please? I have more as well, but it's going to be a process.

What else did you notice in the 911 calls? Well, the first thing I noticed, is that first he collapsed, then it was he was in a chair, then it was he was in his bed....see the trend here? No wonder why all the stories we got were so confusing. All from what is supposed to be THE 911 call.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

@ Lora and rfergy..........

I know!! Sorry Mike!! Thats just what you do to us females!!!


Anne   October 12th, 2009 4:07 pm ET

Anne Powers LA Time blogs
What is the new Michael Jackson single, really?

Michael Jackson's first posthumous release has only been circulating for a few hours and already it's controversial. We shouldn't be surprised: Despite the unified field of emotion that formed during his mourning, the late King of Pop always has been a polarizing figure, not only because of his troubled personal life, but also because of his music.

The Jackson hits that helped shape an era of blockbuster pop - especially ballads like "Man in the Mirror" and "You Are Not Alone," which are close in spirit to the newly released "This Is It" - were scorned by many critics as saccharine, overly smooth and sometimes grandiose. Now, in the light of Jackson's passing and with studio-smooth, slow-danceable pop enjoying an artistic renaissance, those units of inspiration have a different impact.

For creatively ambitious stars such as Ne-Yo and Alicia Keys, as well as for many younger music writers and other taste makers, Jackson played the same role as the Beatles did for baby boomers. He wrote the book on pop as art, and his "mushy" songs are their "Let It Be," their "Yesterday."

Sony's selection of "This Is It" as the first of what should be many posthumous releases is an obvious attempt to benefit from the prevailing reverent mood regarding Jackson's music. Its provenance is mysterious, and label reps aren't offering much illumination. Musically, it's extremely close to "I Never Heard" by the Latin freestyle artist Sa-Fire, a song co-written by Jackson and Paul Anka and released in 1991.

Jackson's version could be an older demo or a later reworking of the song. It lacks the popping bass and round-the-way funkiness of Sa-Fire's interpretation, instead residing firmly in the realm of worship music as the King of Pop imagined it: non-secular but reverential, hitting all the musical buttons that signify divine presence (a heavenly choir, a stately rhythm and melodic ascent) and built around a lyric in which love causes the kind of personal transformation that's otherwise associated with religious experience.

The wondering-boy vocal, which shows Jackson's mastery of breath control, is carried forward by churchy piano, a very adult-contemporary guitar line (possibly provided by one of the studio pros with whom he was working circa 1991, or by a member of Toto, also in his life during that time) and that cloud of backing vocals.

Just as they were his pallbearers at his memorial and funeral, Jackson's brothers form the choir on this single - according to Sony spokesperson Lois Najarian, their vocals were added after his death. That move raises some troubling questions, considering the complicated relationships within the Jackson clan. But it does serve the agenda of this release, which is to further recuperate Jackson's image and stimulate longing for the grace of his presence.

It's no "My Way," but "This Is It" is, in fact, a eulogy spoken by the departed himself. The song title is unintentionally tragic; the verses pain the singer as a romantic hero upon his bier, or as a kind of Jesus figure, waxing tender with his Magdalene before departing Gethsemane.

Then there is Jackson's singing. His high tenor billows and crests, but never breaks; this is ecstasy without resolution. It feels great, but unfinished. It simultaneously makes you want it to keep going and to become something else, something more.

And of course, "This Is It" will become more - a movie, a whole series of archival releases, a resurrection of Michael Jackson, the music industry savior, if not the artist (and certainly not the person). Those curious about the direction Jackson was taking in his more recent collaborations with Akon and will.i.am will have to wait. For now, the agenda of his record label and the other caretakers of his legacy is not to create excitement for what might have been. It's to reinforce the longing for what's already missed - for the mythical Jackson who came into being the day the man himself died.

It will be fascinating, if sometimes disturbing, to watch and hear that fantasy Michael take form. We've already witnessed many such manifestations in pop: Dead Elvis and the prolific specters of Jimi Hendrix and Tupac Shakur; accusatory ghosts such as Kurt Cobain; some who became known only in death, like Nick Drake. Michael Jackson is the first gigantic pop star to enter this afterworld during a time when disembodied existence has become normal for living people, too, through the Internet and the ever-changing state of "reality" entertainment.

How will he keep reappearing? Only time will tell, but as an initial visitation, "This Is It" makes perfect sense.

- Ann Powers


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:07 pm ET

Maureen (UK),
Hey girl how are you today...

Samantha and Linda hi to you guys too ... 😉


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:09 pm ET

Hi Maureen!

@Linda

I'm alright and you?By the way,good to see you back on here 🙂


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

The one BIG thing that has happened for me since June 25th, 2009 is that I have learned so many things about Michael that I did not know before.

I have listened to musical masterpieces, read poetry and saw samples of Michael's drawings that until now I didn't even realize existed!

Since June 25th, I became familiar with another side of Michael of which I was unaware. I had been in the dark all this time because previously, I saw Michael as an entertainer only.

Gone from this earth or not-who really knows for certain...these past few months have opened doors for me and helped me see Michael in a different light. Not just as an entertainer, but as a brilliant, multi-talented-and most importantly-kind man.

To me that is more important than whether or not he hoaxed his death. If anything-his leaving us has helped us learn more about him and who he really was.

I am almost certain that everyone on this blog has learned at least one new thing about Michael that they didn't know before June of 2009. All because we fans came together and were willing to share our experiences, feelings and wisdom.

And I am sure that is something Michael would have wanted.

Love you Michael ♔


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 4:12 pm ET

Hi Lora-Happy Thanks giving & Wedding anniversary !
Linda, I'm fine, pleased to see you ! how are you ?
Ciao Brigida,
Tunde, I'll see if there's a link.
They said in the documentary, that paparazzi listen in to the 911 calls for the exclusive area Michael lived in & they try to not give names away.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

Hey Judie!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

Barbara

Me too-I have learned to see Michael as a human being. Special yes–Always Special–but a human being


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

But i heared about the 4 kinde of 911 call firstime today.


Kara   October 12th, 2009 4:16 pm ET

loved it! most definatly a michael jackson song... cant wait for the cd.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:16 pm ET

maureen
can you image the media circus that would have been out there?

Hi Judie


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

hi Brigida
how are you


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

Samantha,

I have looked every where to find the MTV version of Wanna Be Startin
Something...do you know if or why I can't find it?
I have seen many versions from concerts, but not the MTV video.
I know you are a very good investigator.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

ibelieve
I respect everybody's opinion though they are different from mine, that's OK and that's the way it should be. I don't know for how long you've been reading these blogs, but I can tell u that only since a couple of weeks there are discussions about whether MJ is still alive and almost every discussion touched his topic in order to make leave some of the "old" bloggers and that is so sad. I've been following MJ's career for over 30 years and I therefore will stay here, in any case. In my private life they call me the rock, so u see.... 🙂


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

@Barbara

So true!I don't even know where to begin regarding some of the stuff that I had only learnt about Michael after he had passed.


Elisabeth USA   October 12th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

See ya guys...I WILL be back this evening and hopefully I can finally talk to **mj** myself!! It will mean so much to me.
See ya!!

BTW...I really enjoyed speaking with you today being my first day and thank you for respecting my belief that MJ is alive. I really appreciate that. That is one of the reasons it took me so long to join in...I was afraid of being trashed. But that didnt happen and I really want to thank you all!!
**hugs and kisses**

Elisabeth


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

@Judie

Are you talking about the video for the Thriller 25th version of Wanna Be Startin' Something?


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Ciao Brigida,

I love reading all your posts. Don't worry we understand you perfectly.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:23 pm ET

linDa


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

@ allure
It is not my intention to make anyone leave. It is my hope we explore it together. Well, rock, in my private life they call me the kind rationale one, so we should have no problems! I want the same as you, justice.
Just because I believe he is alive, does not mean he still doesn't deserve justice for everything the media has put him through. Looking forward to many more conversations with you.

@ Barb
See you later, you know the place.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

ibeleive
Here is the thing–I cannot even allow myself to believe that Michael Jackson is still alive as much as I love dMichael–I was devastated when I heard the news on June 25-I will never forget it–I am still crying–so–for me to think that he is still alive–would be a dangerous game for me to play with myself-if I did believe that Michael was still alive–than I would be totally devastated again when Quack Murray is convicted instead of celebrating.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

linDa
T’es vraiment très gentille, merci beaucoup 🙂


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

Ciao Brigida
È da tanto che non ti fai vedere........... che piacere rileggerti


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

Samantha,
I don't think so. Every time I go to You tube it says video not available?


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

Judie
what video?


mjpyt   October 12th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

@ibelieve
Hi hun the lunatics have taken over the asylum
im a believer to wheres theres love theres hope
and wheres this hope theres possibility unleash
your self like a braden horse in battle more

The dude is alive well and blithe away from the shackles
from a lifetime of being in an unselfish trap
He ROCKS MY SOCKS HEEHEE

Love is not a synomn for careing
Careing is often part of love
You go michael you find a rainbow
youve got your pot of gold in your winning
children go and find your new neverland
and be blithe youve earned it

LOVEU4EVER HEEHEE YOU ROCK MY WORLD
SMILE


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

Jan,

I always read your posts and I like the way you always analyse situations........... I basically agree with your post at 12.55 p.m. ET. The same opinion I had and I stated it before in one of my posts.

How can SONY really mess up with MJ like that ????...... I wonder if there is a motive behind all this. I listened to this song about four, if not five times, and I felt that it appears that song was actually not polished enough or simply was a crude one and finishing touches were supposedly still going to be added up to it. If one is aware of that perfection in all of MJ'S released songs, you can evidently hear that it was sang like in a rehersal way........ somewhere the lyrics don't properly match or go together perfectly with the rhythm and sound of the instruments.........

Oh Gosh !!!!...... I am just sooo sad about this. MJ would never want his masterpiece of work to be thrown into an unfinished released thing like this.....


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

Hi cocovelt


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:29 pm ET

Ciao cara Maureen!

Hi Sam!


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Hey Coco!!!! 🙂 🙂
I was just about to meet u in another place....


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Hey Allure!


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 4:32 pm ET

I'm glad you all enjoyed the Tap dancing video! I just stumbled upon it about a month ago and was thrilled when I saw it 🙂

I have learned so many new things about Michael since his death. I've always been a fan (since Thriller) and I'm continually amazed by what Michael has done entertainment wise and as a humanitarian. He was an exceptional being!

I like to read LKL blogs to keep up on all your wonderful posts. Most of you have so much insight and I appreciate your contributions! I feel bad though, because I don't have much to offer as far as the investigation 🙁


Tunde,Hungary   October 12th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

Linda,i dont say,he is a life,but i dont daubt it.There are not 1 point in the storie,that is not quastianable pr have only 1 version.Very strange.Then this word at the memorial in the song !pains".Now i see a picture,that Michael dother was wering the nekless,whenn Michael was a life,but La Toya said,she was by after Michael death.Why thay lie?Around Michael death everything is wrong in 25.juni...So i dont know.We never see the body eider.Murray after all still free.


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

@Coco

Thank you addressing that!As much I love the song,I feel Sony could've done more,after all Michael recorded it as a demo!!!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

Tunde
You know that I have had alot of issues with the whole thing–Jermaine, Latoya, Dileo, Randy Phillips, Quack Murray, etc.
What said was just my personal opinion about myself.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:43 pm ET

2bad-you are a Michael Jackson fan–that's all that matters–


Erica From PA   October 12th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

@**mj**

Hello:-) I have no questions but I do have something to say. Something I've wanted to say for many years but never had the nerve (I'm so nervous now!) I know it sounds corny but I have been a fan for a very long time. Thriller was my first cassette and to me, the best gift I received. I also remember watching Motown 25 with my mom and was in awe of you! You've been in my heart a long time. You shared your amazing gift with the world and I want to thank you. Thank you for being you. I have loved you for a long time and I always will (as a person, not just a personality)
Erica


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

@ mjpyt
Again, your words make me smile. Keep being your wonderful self. You got it all under control. lol.
See you later on the other side.

@2 bad
You have a fresh set of eyes to offer! Please never discount any contribution you can make. Be informed, look other places besides here. There are many out there. When you stumble on the one I am at, we'll talk, ok? I use the same name, not hard to find

@ allure
I have met some of the good folks who used to come here. I speak to them daily. They left because of all the chaos and name calling.
Me, I just want to get along and find the truth.

@ Linda
I cried all day too. As well as every night for a week. I spent countless hours reading other boards, blogs, forums, you name I was there. I watched youtube, TMZ, CNN, the list goes on. But please make no mistake, I had doubts he was gone, just as you had your opinion he was truly gone. Even though I beLIEve, I still find my self tear up over a MJ song. We are not any different, merely separated by one opinion. I would like to ask you one thing. I plan to honor MJ on Oct 25, noon CST, by releasing no more than 6 red balloons with messages of love or even a lyric pinned by Michael. (Latex balloons are environmentally safe as they are made from maple syrup). If one balloon goes a certain distance, does not pop but finds its way to one person who might need a word of encouragement, then I have done Michael proud. And no matter where he is, on earth or heaven, I hope that he will see people all over the globe doing the same thing.


carol kesling   October 12th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

once again this man can transport you to wherever you want to be !!!! he is trully missed, and loved alot.... thank you michael !!!!!!!!!!!!


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

Samantha,
That is not it, I have seen this one before but it was nice of you to post it for me...
I'm looking for the original music video that was on MTV.
--------------------------
@ 2 bad,

I also don't offer much to the investigation except my thoughts about what I think.
No worries though we learn from all our friends here that do know.
I also have learned many things, and continue each new day.
You are a very thoughtful person, nice to meet you.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

@ lindafromnewyork:

Thank you!

I wish I had done something more for him (as a fan) while he was alive, but hindsight is always 20/20.

I miss him so much.


Marianna (D)   October 12th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

Hi Linda,
il ne faut pas trop de soucis.
En fait, je te comprends très bien, tes doutes et les douleurs de ton âme.
Ne crains rien. M va bien ici ou ailleurs et le doc verra la vérité comme tout le monde.
Bises, je t'embrasse


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 4:48 pm ET

ibelieve
that is a Sunday-I will be off from Work I will do that-Thanks

Where do I find these latex balloons–Target?


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

@ Judie:

Thank you so much! That means a lot to me.


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 4:51 pm ET

@ ibelieve:

Thanks!


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

@ linda
Yes, you can find them at Target or Wal-Mart. If anyone else would like to join us, please do. Can we show Michael we all love him and thank him for all he has given us?


Samantha - South Africa   October 12th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

@Judie

I'll try asking around about the video as I was not aware that there was even video that was made for Wanna Be Startin' Something on the original Thriller album.In fact,the only videos that were made were Billie Jean,Thriller & Beat It and Michael even mentioned this in Moonwalk.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 4:55 pm ET

ALLURE !!! heee!!!heee!!!...wie gehts dir heute???. Du heißt jetzt der Rock ??? 🙂 🙂

Okay the Rock, what have you got for me today ???

..... ( Smooth criminal ) Hey man !!! okay... show me what you got. Is that all you got ???......


Victoria J   October 12th, 2009 4:56 pm ET

@Anne

Thank you for the LA post.

I have read several music critics' reviews today and it just hurts way down deep. Most are very positive and are pointing out many of the same things that have been discussed here over the past few days. Where were these people when Michael was alive and releasing new music that was good, too? I have lots of thoughts on the song, but I am just too weary and tired to expound on it other than to say his voice is lovely. That's enough for me. I am trying to let go of all the negatives associated with the release of the song because it is just too difficult for me to process today. From others' posts and thoughts... Michael had to put up with too much "stuff" in his life ... it seems the good ones always do, but Michael's sensitivity made it much too hard to handle, I believe.


Allure   October 12th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

Coco
what about some good night cookies :-)??


Judie   October 12th, 2009 4:59 pm ET

Thanks Samantha,
If anyone can find it, it would be you or Eli. You 2 have a nose for this kind of stuff. lol


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:00 pm ET

Marianna
Je ne comprends pas – vous dites que vous pensez que J'ai des doutes sur Michael Jackson est mort ou êtes-vous me dire de ne pas s'inquiéter que le doctorant sera d'obtenir ce qu'il mérite -


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

Hurrrayyy !!!....... For LINDA, I didn't notice you for sometime dear. How are you doing ??? I missed you.... I am happy you are back here !!! heee!!!heeee!! 🙂 🙂

Hi SAMANTHA........... how did you like the "new" song ??

Guys on the bloggie, how are you all doing today ???


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:02 pm ET

Ciao Allure, Hi Coco ! 🙂


maggie (uk)   October 12th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

hi I am maggie from the UK

The new Michael Jackson song is wonderful, i cried buckets when i heard it nice to hear the mans voice again and weather it is an old one ro revived i dont care it is michael and thats all taht matters to me. I am going to see the movie on october the 28th cant wait and will be going to go and pick up the album on the 26th.

Love and miss you Michael
xxxxxx


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 5:10 pm ET

Hi MAUREEN !!!.......... how did you kick off your day with the new song ???

2 BAD,

i just loved that video clip you posted of MJ doing that tap dance..... I also do tap dancing ; I love it. I have always heard MJ also could tap dance and its definately true.


mjpyt   October 12th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

I believe in fairies in the garden down below
fluttering gayly pranceing from flowers
to and throw
I believe in santa claus
all red and beard and laugh
bringing children presents from a sack
upon his back
I believe in fairy tales beginning to the end
I believe in moon drops like my little fairy friends
I believe in mj and the truth it will prevail
we will see him do the moonwalk
time and time again
I belive in love it makes us smile with glee
But most of all my friend i believe in me
YOU ROCK MY SOCKS LOVEU4EVER MJ SMILE


Ioana - Romania   October 12th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

@ 2 bad

Thank you for your comments and for the videoclip... I think is better to share magical moments with MJ instead loosing time with fake fans...
Please share with us your favourites with Michael!

@ Jan

Very goods interviews... only you can discover this! You're more than an expert!

For all of you, I am always here, reading your really comments...


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

cocovelt
You know how much I loved Michael-how long have I been on the blog? I found this blog after I went to the Apollo theater on June 26th.


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 5:15 pm ET

And lest I forget...these blogs have also helped me develop a new appreciation for the colour gold 🙂

Love you Michael ♔
"There's gold in dem dar hills!"


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Cocovelvet 🙂
I loved Michael's voice, (in his lower register). Kept wondering what his "Midas touch" would have done to the finished product. But I would buy anything of Michael's, even if he just sang my shopping list !


Anne   October 12th, 2009 5:19 pm ET

A Victoria J
Thanks! It is a long article but she has a lot of insight. The release of the song makes me sad for many reasons. I read that it is his first posthumous song. I found just those words to be upsetting. I know he has died but I keep getting that fresh stab of pain all over again. I just heard the song on my local tv news. The song is everywhere. Why couldn't they give him just a tiny amount of positive press while he was living?


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:20 pm ET

Diane Demon
There's a good close up shot of her on the other new blog. It's callled, "Anti Livestock claims."


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:20 pm ET

Maureenuk

Me too–Like I said earlier-I think hearing Michael's voice untouched–makes even more special. I love it.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

Barbara

Me too–LOL


Marianna (D)   October 12th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

Linda,
vous avez des soucis à cause de votre amour pour M.
C'est ca qui m'a touché.
Si vous pensez que M soit mort oui ou non ceci n'est pas vraiment important. Il y a beaucoup qui a été discuté si oui ou non. Moi, j'assume après ces mois de lecture et des études des circonstances que la possibilité soit plus grande que M soit vivant que celle qu'il soit décédé. Maintenant je suis plus calme, j'ai lu assez, j'ai vu assez, je ne pleure plus, j'attends la justice si le doc a fait qc de terrible – je n'ose pas le dire comme je ne sais pas si lui soit coupable. J'ai pris une bonne distance et en regardant de loin, il n'y a pas une preuve jusqu'à aujourd'hui, seulement les quotidiennes, le "j'ai entendu d'une source". M a toujours dit de ne jamais croire aux quotidiennes. Ca m'a beacoup aidé avec ma tristesse. J'ai interrogé tous les reportages et images.

J'espère que vous trouverez le comfort dont vous avez besoin pour votre incertitude et tristesse. Je trouve ces éspaces de discussion formidables – on trouve des gens impeccables ici.
Je vous embrasse, vous êtes une de ces femmes incroyables.
Faith...


2 bad   October 12th, 2009 5:23 pm ET

@ Cocovelvet:

I'm glad you liked the video! You tap dance? I can only dream of moving my feet that fast...LOL!

@ Ioana – Romania:

Ohhh, I have so many favorites of Michael! I am also a fan of the GOLD PANTS 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:24 pm ET

maureen uk-LOL


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:25 pm ET

Lindafromnewyork
Did you notice too ! I would love to hear one of Michael's hidden treasures (which hopefully La Toya has hidden away) set to a spanish guitar !


Erica From PA   October 12th, 2009 5:28 pm ET

@**mj**

I am so sorry. I forgot to tell you that I think your new song is great 😀
With love,
Erica


nanda tiwari   October 12th, 2009 5:34 pm ET

couldn't have said it bettr
we luv u michael
we'll never forget you
PS: you are totally hot 🙂


Allure   October 12th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

@Maureen
thank u for the video post!!


Marianna (D)   October 12th, 2009 5:41 pm ET

Impatiently waiting for the movies. Will have fun to find my jaws...
LOL


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Marianna

J'ai été fan depuis près de 40 ans. J'adorais Michael Jackson et à cause de ce que j'ai à faire face à sa mort de manière réaliste.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:47 pm ET

Allure
Prego. I'm not sure if the documentary has been aired elsewhere.
Did you see post 5.20 re Demon ?


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:48 pm ET

Did you guys ever hear Michale sing I Just can't stop loving you in French or Spanish?

Sexy


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:49 pm ET

Michael


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 5:51 pm ET

Maurern
I knew that picture reminded of someone? thans–Yep Diane Demon


rfergy   October 12th, 2009 5:54 pm ET

TMZ just posted that Paul Anka is taking legal action because 'this is it' is stolen!


Anne   October 12th, 2009 5:58 pm ET

That really blows my mind. How could Sony not make sure who owned the song?


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 5:58 pm ET

Linda- LOL
Did you see the youtube above documentary Linda ? They mention the contract. 2 years, up to 31 concerts. Part 2, 4.30.
Have you heard "Don't walk away," Invincible ?

2 Bad, LOL priceless ! I suppose they've taped Michael sneezing some where too !


mjpyt   October 12th, 2009 5:59 pm ET

Let others cheer the winning man,
There's one I hold worth while;

'Tis he who does the best he can,
Then loses with a smile.

Beaten he is, but not to stay
Down with the rank and file;

That man will win some other day,
Who loses with a smile.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

rfergy–Are you kidding me?

Sony-Screwing with Michael again?-this is unbelievable-Anne obviously idiots-


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

rfergy
More income for the lawyers ?


Anne   October 12th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

New York Times October 12, 2009, 5:27 pm
Paul Anka Says He Was Not Credited for New Jackson Single
By Ben Sisario

When Michael Jackson’s new single, “This Is It,” was released on Sunday night, many listeners were surprised by its resemblance to “I Never Heard,” a 1991 track by the R&B singer Safire, which gave songwriting credit to Mr. Jackson and Paul Anka.

But no one was more surprised than Mr. Anka, who said in an interview on Monday that he had not been contacted about the use of the song, and was not given proper writing credit for the single, which now credits only Jackson as a writer.

“They have a major, major problem on their hands,” he said. “They will be sued if they don’t correct it.”

For Mr. Anka, the song has a long and painful history. He said that he and Jackson wrote and recorded it in 1983 in Mr. Anka’s studio in Carmel, Calif., and that it had been intended as a duet for Mr. Anka’s album “Walk a Fine Line.”

But shortly after it was recorded Jackson took the tapes, Mr. Anka said. He threatened to sue to get them back, he said, and now has the original multitrack tapes in his possession, along with documentation that the copyright for the song was held by both men. “It’s exactly the same song,” Mr. Anka said. “They just changed the title.”

“This Is It” was based on a tape that Jackson left behind containing only his piano and vocal. John McClain, a record executive and producer whom Jackson named in his will as an executor, built a full arrangement around it, including backup vocals by Jackson’s brothers. Aside from a few major differences in the lyrics, the composition of the song is almost identical to that of “I Never Heard.”

Rob Stringer, the chairman of the Columbia/Epic Label Group, said in an interview on Sunday that he did not know when Mr. Jackson’s original tape had been recorded and that he had not known about its similarity to the Safire track until Jackson fans discussed it online over the weekend. He declined to comment further on Monday.

Representatives of the Jackson estate did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


Jan   October 12th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

Ioana – Romania, thanks for the compliment , I really want justice
for MJ like many others on the board.


Habib Hayat   October 12th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

I think its a little earlier but at the same time I am sure it will smash the records of MJs hit list songs and his lovers will not let this go away for a long time...


Allure   October 12th, 2009 6:07 pm ET

@Maureen
no I haven't seen that before, I think they did not aire it elsewhere.


mary u from ohio   October 12th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

**mj**….
I’m waiting…. One hand i have the Water Balloon & in the Other hand is the Super Soaker… You won’t see me til around 7:00pm….til Then it’s Hide & Seek…I'm Starting to count....I Love You


denise   October 12th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

hello Lindafromnewyork - glad to hear from you 🙂 ihyg


Allure   October 12th, 2009 6:10 pm ET

Anne
Oh my god, that sounds bad, very bad........


Anne   October 12th, 2009 6:19 pm ET

Paul Anka did not have to say such a mean thing about having to threaten MJ to get the tapes back. He actually didn't have to say anything at all to the press. He could just tell Sony he wants credit for writing it and payment as appropriate. He did not have to generate negative publicity for MJ today. It seems like MJ cannot catch a break from anybody..ever.

Doesn't make Sony or McClain look good either. I wonder how much $ McClain got for producing a song he should have known MJ did not want released?


Anne   October 12th, 2009 6:20 pm ET

According to TMZ John Branca should have known.

Anka tells us he called the lawyers who repped both he and Jackson - ironically one of them was John Branca - and threatened them with a lawsuit if he didn't get the tapes back. Anka got them back but insists Jackson made a copy of the tapes and used the track with his voice from "I Never Heard" - and simply retitled it, "This is It."


Allure   October 12th, 2009 6:25 pm ET

Coco!! 🙂
are u still in??
The cookies are ready.........


mjpyt   October 12th, 2009 6:28 pm ET

Sony
Still not had your pound of flesh easiar for the fatted calf
to be led than sacrifised
your havin a laugh but the jokes on you the mask of the insider
has two faces we continue through the spiders web but you
think youve got your fly the butterfly flys higher with transparent
wings a float still keeping the bees happy from flowers with
sensouous fragrance for yonder years amore

MJ YOU ROCK MY SOCKS LOVEU4EVER smile


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 6:30 pm ET

Tamara
Thanks for the lyrics for TII.
Noticed a crytic in an artcle was asking why Michael said ,
"I'm the Light of the World," ?

The lyrics are, "In the Light of the world."


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 6:33 pm ET

Allure
Do you like TII ?


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 6:39 pm ET

I love This Is It !!!!!!!!!!


Brigida, Italy   October 12th, 2009 6:42 pm ET

Hi you all, greeting me so kindly. I hug you back : )
Allure, I was here yesterday but i have so little time due to my job, I can't write so much here. And it takes a lot of time catching up, esp. today with all this videos and informations.
Thank you all for updating on so many things.
I agree with Barbara, we all have learned much more about Michael as we knew when he still was among us. But I have to say for my part, here in Italy they didn't show so much if it wasn't for his concerts and TV-appearances. The private side was not so known here and I'm glad to know it now than never : )

I have to go to bed, tomorrow I will start very early and can't miss my sleep-hours so often like I would like to. So, see you tomorrow and hope you have good news here!
Good night you all and thank you again! : )


janice   October 12th, 2009 6:45 pm ET

About the 911 call clip above. It is called editing. All stations play different versions/snippets of almost everything that comes across the television set. Once again, it is called editing. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out. The call is identical in all four clips, the tone of the voices, the timing of the words....just different editing from different stations. EDITING!


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 6:49 pm ET

Brittani

__________
have you heard the 911 call that the German stationed got ?


Jessica   October 12th, 2009 6:52 pm ET

I know it's a great song, because after I heard it I coulldn't stop singing it out loud. Michael had a gift for knowing a lasting melody. It may not be as memorable as some of his top hits, but still awesome. The lyrics fit where he was at in his career and life. Can't wait for the movie-so excited.


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 6:55 pm ET

Michael hated the name Wacko. What people didn't understand back then or even now is that he is a human being that has all the emotions and feelings that you and I have.


Letta   October 12th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

@mj

Love this song. This such a beautiful song to listen to. Now, just by listening to the word's it truely makes me think that all of this was plan.

Now, that all is actually coming to light, and the this it movie is about to hit the screen soon, what shall we exspect of you next? Looking forward to hearing you response.


ForAllTime   October 12th, 2009 7:03 pm ET

"Sony has rights to release any music Mr. Jackson recorded while under contract. But since there could be as many as two albums’ worth of material made after that deal expired, around five years ago, other labels may also be able to cut deals, and the Jackson estate has held talks with Universal about those recordings, according to people familiar with the discussions but not authorized to speak publicly."

Well, that's exactely what makes me believe that Sony has either digged through its "own" archive of MJ unreleased songs until they found this demo, than "switched" the song originally planed to be included in the shows in favor of the old demo for which they still had the rights and could cash in! With a new "This is it" title written in the recent years, Sony would have gone "empty hands".

Makes sense?

Just my 2 cents ...

But it's a nice song anyways 🙂 and personally, I like it


secret   October 12th, 2009 7:05 pm ET

I'm glad Paul Anka came forward and will probably get half the profits from the TII song. Sony was being too greedy and it just blew up in their face.


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 7:11 pm ET

I can not even believe Paul Anka. Wouldn't you think Sony would get thier ducks in a row before releasing this song?

It sorta seems they may have jumped the gun on this one. Poor Michael even in death Sony is trying to milk him for all he is worth.


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 7:12 pm ET

Secret-- Sounds like you are not a Michael jackson fan. If you were you wouldn't be wishing another law suit on him. Hasn't he been through enough of them already?>


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 7:15 pm ET

Serenity
why would Michael change the lyrics from, "In the light of the world, love is grand." To, "I'm the light of the world, I feel grand,"
That would only provoke the cynics. Maybe it's been edited.


billiejean   October 12th, 2009 7:19 pm ET

Sernity,
were you in a MJ chat a while ago? There was someone in there a while ago with that name..Trying to tell everyone MJ is alive, and I tried running ya'll outta there.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 7:21 pm ET

For All time
That'll be good news if there are albums written after the Sony contract expired. I keep hearing that it expires in 2011, so it's a bit confusing.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 7:23 pm ET

One article said they found the tape in a old box of MJs. It is just him singing and playing the piano.The rest was added very recently. They have plagarism checker for English papers so they must have them for lyrics, too. It should have taken them two seconds to figure out that MJ held the copyright with Paul Anka. It is going to cost them a lot since the song is not just on the music cd but also in the movie playing at 25,000 theaters and on all the dvds. Paul Anka is going to get a lot of money because the cds and movie are already made. He did not have to make MJ look bad about it. It wasn't his fault but his estate will suffer. At least it does make Sony look bad. There are probably a lot of really angry people at Sony right now. This is a big embarrassment.


secret   October 12th, 2009 7:24 pm ET

Marguerite...This has nothing to do with Michael. It has to do with greed from Sony. It is my opinion that they are trying to make every dime off of Michael that they can. Someone at Sony is in VERY big trouble and will probably be out of a job because of this. But I ain't shedding any tears. They got what they deserved.

I think Michael would want Paul to have his rightful share of the profits. He was a good man and would want to do the right thing.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 7:25 pm ET

An old demo made w/Paul Anka, remixed w/crappy harmonizing of those greedy Jackson brothers-MJ would have never released this garbage. And his so called brothers teamed w/SONY and AEG-disgusting. They must be terribly upset knowing Katherine will not be able to will her part of the estate (to them) when she dies-it goes to MJ's kids. Uncle Mikey is done supporting that clan. So, watch the mad dash to capitalize while they can-while the gettin is good! Reality show w/funeral highlights is first on the menu-they are just as disgusting as AEG/SONY/Murray. Sad.


rfergy   October 12th, 2009 7:25 pm ET

Whether Paul Anka does anything or not means nothing. The song was written by both of them so the most he can get is a percentage in royalties! As for the lyrics..... They are both beautiful! Everyone should feel they are a light in this world and everyone should feel grand!!!!! Critics just need something to say!!!!!!


Marina   October 12th, 2009 7:27 pm ET

Kat-Aust, secret and others

Thank you for the wishes about my dogs happy return home. I will be on the forum but visiting randomly and reading posts, I have to work today, I really want to get it over with so I can be on the forums more.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 7:28 pm ET

Carey
If Michael wanted to leave his estate to his family that's perfectly normal.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 7:29 pm ET

Buying anything MJ from SONY/AEG is contributing to those who killed MJ! And the brothers desperately attempting to cash in is unbelievable. MJ needed them when he was alive, but they only wanted him to join them in for profit ventures-just more people trying to get something from him. So much for his 'family.' RIP MJ.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 7:36 pm ET

Carey
Michael's family were with him at the trials every day. They wouldn't have known that Michael would be leaving his estate to them so soon. I think they're ok. JMHO.


Sheryl   October 12th, 2009 7:38 pm ET

@ Barbara: You said this on an earlier blog:
"The one BIG thing that has happened for me since June 25th, 2009 is that I have learned so many things about Michael that I did not know before."

WOW! Exactly. I think so many of us have opened our eyes about so many things! I, too, have learned SO much about Michael AND SO MANY OTHER TOPICS because of him! This year I have two wonderfully mannered students that follow the Jehovah's Witness faith in my 8th grade class. While I've had students of this faith before, now I feel like I have a much better understanding of why they don't vote in class elections, say the Pledge, etc. AND it's because of the research I did this summer when learning about Michael. I've also been reading about Fred Astaire, Charlie Chaplin, the Mesai African tribe, the geography of California, journalism's ethical standards, the demographics of Gary, IN, not to mention hundreds of more hours increasing my knowledge of child development and abuse and the effects on later life. The list could go on and on and on, and IT'S BECAUSE OF MICHAEL.

My heart continues to grieve for a genius I didn't know very much about when he was alive, but his death has made me a better person, I hope.

I love reading these blogs when I have the chance. I agree with so many on here that have said that Michael's legacy is what matters, not whether we agree or disagree about whether he's still physically alive. What matters is that his spirit continues to move us to all be better people in our every day lives all over the world.


janice   October 12th, 2009 7:38 pm ET

@ Carey

WELL SAID! I hope you read my posts at 1:33 and 2:22. If anybody needs any further PROOF that Michael is no longer with us....well THIS IS IT! Guaranteed!


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

For those who believe no proof is necessary. For those who don't no proof is possible.


mjpyt   October 12th, 2009 7:46 pm ET

Michael
So the sorcerer started the work and the apprentices took over
You can never be surpassed its the craft you do so unique
effortless and time less i mourned for you in the song the magic
was a mere puff of smoke you where there but then gone
I pray this isnt just an hors oeuvre from a banquet of bland
appetizers your worth much more than that
Your benevelent you inspire with every beat of every heart
you are a purist an enigma to all your inimitable YOUR mj
MJ YOU ROCK MY SOCKS LOVEU4EVER SMILE


Luda   October 12th, 2009 7:52 pm ET

Linda, 5:48 pm

Where can we find the french version?


Carey   October 12th, 2009 7:55 pm ET

MJ's family was w/him through the trials because publicity is publicity-they needed him even then. Jermain introduced MJ to Tohme-and MJ said he did not trust him. Yet at the hospital, there he was right next to Jermaine. And all the talk shows that were done during and after the trial-they had nothing to lose. If MJ were found guilty/not guilty, they won....probably better for them. (and they wanted to be sure his $ was safe if he was sent to prison!). Just like his death-now they are singing bacground on MJ's cd?! WTF!! Team AEG/SONY/Jacksons!! YUCK! Janet and Katherine wre MJ's true family.


mary u from ohio   October 12th, 2009 7:56 pm ET

**mj** ...How are you? I'm not sure if you will be here tonight LoveYou .


janice   October 12th, 2009 7:59 pm ET

@ Corey

It SONY wanted to truly honor this man's legacy. They would have picked a song off his INVINCIBLE album which they TOTALLY SCREWED him on, as well as the media and the critics! Invincible is some of Michael's finest work and almost any song on that CD would have been a beautiful tribute to this man....especially the song Whatever Happens. That song is absolutely one of Mike's best works and SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED as a single. Not to mention others they could have used, Speechless, You Are My Life, The Lost Children, etc. OR they could have even used "What More Can I Give" if they truly cared anything about this man's legacy. To take a demo that sounds like "crap" and that is why Michael DID NOT want it released and change the title of it just because it has the words "This is It" in it is an ABSOLUTE disgrace.

If you truly love this man...for his talent, his genius, his humanitarianism, his charitable works, etc. then you should fight for his legacy. I hope everyone will contact SONY and let them know how they have betrayed him!


Carey   October 12th, 2009 8:02 pm ET

Janice @ 1:33-so well put and right on target!! I too have all the cd's from b-days, etc. I saw MJ live in '87 when I was 10 years old and it was MAJICAL!! But I will never buy another MJ cd, or contribute to those who helped kill him. Thank you for your great insight!!!


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:05 pm ET

Now this is all getting really nasty !!!...... my fears and thoughts about the release of this song since I heard it today seem to come to reality.

Really, how can SONY act so unprofessional ???!!!!. I just can't believe I hear it properly....... but thanks God that along the way this SONY will reap the seeds of their sow. Now those who have always slundered MJ will have to start thinking twice with this utter embarassment and unprofessionalism carried out by this recording company ; was MJ on the other side lying about them anyway !!???

MONEY TALKS IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT TONES !!!....... INCREDIBLE STUFF......


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 8:06 pm ET

Sheryl and Barbara
_________________

I too have learned so much after Michael passing. Please let the children be children.....let them live their childhood. The one thing they will never be able to get back if it is lost.


janice   October 12th, 2009 8:08 pm ET

@ Carey

Forgive me, I called you Corey earlier. I agree. I will, however, go see the movie. 90% of those profits go to his estate. I, like everyone, want to see what he wanted to share with us, his vision. I feel so privileged to be able to see it and in fact bought 14 tickets to it at my local theater. I'm going every day! BUT, I also know that the movie is a lie, taken from the best of performances, and is not a true picture of what was really going on behind the cameras. They murdered him because he could not go through with the tour AND because the Beatles catalogue comes up in 2010 for renewal. I will watch the movie as a bittersweet reality of what could and should have been.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:08 pm ET

Anne
I agree with you . Paul Anka could have handled it the Branca and McClain Pivately.. He did not have to this. His action is only giving the media fuel against Michael.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 8:10 pm ET

TMZ
Michael Jackson's estate just got a partner it didn't bank on - because we've just learned Paul Anka is now a 50% partner in the publishing rights to "This is It."

Anka will get other profits as well, but the publishing rights are usually the big ticket item, and sources say Michael Jackson's estate has agreed Anka gets 50%.

It's amazing ... when Paul Anka woke up this morning he had no idea he'd get the same cut as Jackson's estate. Sadly for Sony ... they didn't know either.

It looks like Brana And McClain are taking responsibility for the mistake and the estate is the loser.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Janice-what does it mean that the catalogue is up for renewal? I may seem ignorant but I don't understand that. I worry about those kids inhereting that $-it was what contributed to MJ's demise-and what will it do to their future? $$$ creates the devil in even the best people...$$$$ is evil.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:13 pm ET

JANICE,

AMEN !!!!.... I agree with you completely, why didn't SONY really not choose another option if they absolutely cared about putting any honour into that great man's legacy, instead of brewing up things like this into such a disgrace ???

GEEZZZZ !!!!.... what is this SONY going to give as an explanation to all the fans and those who loved MJ's music ???!!!


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:15 pm ET

Janice
very well said-I will also see This Is It because Michael wanted us to see his vision, but I also know that if we do go see it we will be lining Sony's pockets even though the estate is getting a large chunk. Yes, Michael was murdered AEG and Sony are imost likely n business together.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 8:17 pm ET

Serenity
No I didn't think you knew Michael. Don't worry too much about the lyrics.

Coco- are you still up ?

It's a poor outcome for the estate ?


janice   October 12th, 2009 8:19 pm ET

@ Carey

The Beatles catalogue comes up for renewal/buy-out option every 5 years. Michael has always REFUSED to sell it. Sony cannot sell without his consent and cannot buy Mike's 50% back without Michael's consent. Michael was having John Branca investigated in 2005 for possibly engaging in some shady deals to sell it in 2005. John Branca resigned as Michael's top man concerning the Beatles catalogue in 2006. Access was cut off to Michael starting June 10th. No one could get to him, not his family, not his friends, no one. Only the inner circle of AEG and those involved in the tour. However, miraculously and mystically John Branca is re-instated as executive of Michael's will on June 17th. And Michael dies 8 days later? Come on. There is a lot more to this story than anyone is getting! We have to fight for justice. There is a massive cover-up going on here!


Raychil   October 12th, 2009 8:20 pm ET

I'm glad that the estate worked it out with Anka as it was the appropriate thing to do. What I hate is how unprofessional Anka was in calling up a sleazy tabloid like TMZ to air this in public. He had to know TMZ would try to sensationalize it. Anka could have picked up the phone and spoke to the executors like most adult men would do if there was a dispute.

I guess Anka forgot to put on his big boy pants.


Mila   October 12th, 2009 8:21 pm ET

Janice,
I don't know how to write this without offending you but I really don't understand your sentiments about the song.

It's OK if our opinions differ but the fact remains that I have been listening to the song the whole day and I'm not planning to change it just yet.

Why do you think that a song with simple melody and simple lyrics is a disgrace to sing or release ?
I personally find it beautiful because of it's simplicity – it sounds very sincere – like the feeling of first love.

To my heart, it is an absolute treat to hear Michael sing a balad one more time.
While it is true that the fast songs are his true masterpeices, the love songs that he sang are rare pearls that let his angelic voice just conquer the heart.

It is possible that Michael might have wanted to add some final touch-ups to the song before releasing it – I wouldn't know.
I remember Michael sharing the memory of Quincy Jones telling him "if the songs needs somthing it will tell you".
Well, it seems songs used to speak only to Michael and tell him what they need.
Now the best we have left is to just hear them unfinsihed and dream of what might have been.

The 2nd CD of This Is It will include an orchestra version of this song – I expect it might be something grand similar to Andre Rieu's take on Ben and Earth Song.

Regarding changing the name of the song – you're not correct – "This Is It" is the original name of this song – it's documented in the book "Michael Jackson: For The Record".


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:25 pm ET

Mila

I agree–I think Michael's voice sounds wonderful. I always loved when Michael sang ballads–he voice sound so pure.


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Mila- People have pigeon holed him and they are so small minded to believe he can do any other style.

I believe this song is Michael all the way.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

i think the song demo was recorded in the '90's and that is what we are listening to. Although MJ's voice is sweet, the value of the whole presentation-the mediocre harmonizing, and weak accompanying music-were not in keeping with MJ's style. He broke away from the J5 long ago-he would not wnat his music to sound so vegas lounge. It just doesn;t sound/represent MJ. My opinion.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:27 pm ET

MAUREEN,

Yup !!!, I'm still here girl..... where have you been ??? Or you were at Jax Street for a change ???


Jacquelyn   October 12th, 2009 8:27 pm ET

What Anka is doing may be the right thing. It will not make MIchael look bad, but it will show us how greedy people really are when it comes to making money off of Michael's name. So no it should not be handle privately. It will all play out the way it suppose to.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:27 pm ET

Janice
There is a massive cover up and we have felt that way from day one on this blog.


janice   October 12th, 2009 8:28 pm ET

@ Mila

I respect your opinion...but you're asking me why I feel the way I do? Read my post at 1:33 and you will find all of your answers there. Mike was about PERFECTION and nothing less. He devote his life to giving us nothing less than PERFECTION! This is a demo. It is full of mistakes! Vocally and lyrically! Yes, we've heard some of Mike's demo's on CDs, but NOT FOR RADIO AIRPLAY! They should have honored him with something that he was proud to have completed himself...like ANYTHING from Invincible, his last living CD, which they basically canned although it is some of his most brilliant work and then no one could question their integrity and they would not have jeopardized his legacy.

I'm so sorry. I am so angry that I cannot even type with putting in exclamation points everywhere!


Alyssa   October 12th, 2009 8:35 pm ET

Beautiful song!! <3

So much love Michael.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 8:35 pm ET

Cocovelvet
I've been flitting in & out. I'll have to pop over to Jax st, especially if i'm missing out on something ! 🙂

I think all this news about Anka must have been part of the hype. It will cause a dilemma. Fans not sending Michael to no. 1 if they don't buy or if they do, the estate doesn't make anything on it.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

Michael's estate will lose half the publishing rights to his song. This song was not part of the O2 concert. It didn't need to be on the cd or in the movie or dvd of the movie. If they had bothered to find out that it was co written by Paul they could have either paid him a lot less for giving up his rights or just chosen another song.

This way they are paying him whatever he wants to stop the negative publicity. I am so surprised that McClain and Branca messed MJ up this badly. This album was put together too quickly. This is probably basic stuff in the entertainment industry – checking copyrights.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Janice

I do see your point aboubt Invincible-I love it. SONY would never release something from Invincible because if they did Invincible would become the Major Hit for Michael like it was suppose to have been in the first place had they not screwed him. SONY wants none of that because it would prove just how mean and nasty they were to Michael.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:37 pm ET

JANICE and LINDA,

.........and this massive cover-up have to be brought out into the spotlight for all the eyes in this world to see , one way or the other. That is actually what everyone is waiting for infact across the world to see and hear justice being done for MJ.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:39 pm ET

Anne
Of course it is–I believe it is called Copyrighting 101-LOL.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 8:40 pm ET

It's all deliberate.


lindafromnewyork   October 12th, 2009 8:41 pm ET

Hi jacquelyn


janice   October 12th, 2009 8:41 pm ET

@ Cocovelvet

I pray that you are right. I have and am worrying myself sick over this. Especially with the chief of police stating he is stepping down after having just given a speech about how he hoped to remain in that position for many years to come. I am so scared...the ones who are really responsible for his murder are going to go free. Murray was the fall guy...but someone else was calling the shots. My life is consumed with this investigation and preserving Michael's legacy as I know so many on this blog are.

God bless you.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:44 pm ET

MAUREEN,

I start to believe that as well that it might be a deliberate plight by SONY to through MJ'S image and his song in this situation. I believe they are a recording and marketing company, wouldn't anyone think they should have better known the consequences of releasing that song in the way they did ???. This is their field of work and they should have handled it the way they had always done with others before.....


Anne   October 12th, 2009 8:45 pm ET

Another source puts the blame squarely on Sony for not researching copyright.


Pat   October 12th, 2009 8:49 pm ET

IMO, Paul anka's behavior is just despicable and unprofessional. If he went to Michael's estate FIRST, and was turned away, then he might have some recourse to go the tabloid route, but he went about things wrong from the start.

He said Michael ripped him off, got a big head during the Thriller era, and stole his music. Come on, they wrote that song together, where is the stealing part? Thankfully it appears paul is only entitled to profits from the This Is It song and not the movie. The movie proceeds belongs to MJ3

This is not the first, nor the last time that someone will try and go after MJ's estate for money.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Coco
It's a real dilemma. If the fans don't buy because of the "treachery" Michael won't be no.1. If the fans do buy the album, the estate won't benefit. I even wondered about the lyrics (!). Editing.

Well at least Londell McMillan will have due cause to get rid of them now !


Mila   October 12th, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Janice,
Calm down – I can see that you're upset.

Michael's legacy can never ever be jeopardized.

It is clear that they picked the song because of the title and because it fits perfectly in the theme of the "This Is It" project – it's all for love.
Simple pure love.
I think this simple heartfelt song is just perfect for the message.

As for his other unreleased songs – I hope we will some day hear them all – every single one of them would be a treasure to me.

You probably know that Smooth Criminal almost didn't make it into Bad .. imagine how many songs like that are lying in some vault.

I wish they would all to find their way to the radio air.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:51 pm ET

JANICE,

I heard some few days back about that resignation of the Chief of Police, and if that happens, it could through the investigation back to square one or even to zero like you are saying , ending up with conman Murray also getting away with it.

I just get chokes in my stomach when that thought comes across my mind, and the fact that MJ will be deprived of all the justice in this world.........


Carey   October 12th, 2009 8:52 pm ET

Janice-truthfully I don't think we will ever know what really heppened to MJ-it is all so tragic. Those responsible saw their window of opportunity, when MJ was vulnerable and addicted, and seized that moment. It is so unberable to think that he was trusting this doctor, and was killed in the process. To put that level of trust in someone-to be put to sleep and depend on that person to ensure his safety and to wake him up-it just tears me up at the thought. Tragic.


janice   October 12th, 2009 8:54 pm ET

@ Mila

I am upset. I'm very upset. Smooth Criminal almost didn't make it, but at least when Michael decided it was going to make it, he was able to perfect the way he wanted to.

I'm aware that Michael is not here to perfect all of his songs that are in his vault. I'm fully aware of that. But surely there are people somewhere that have Michael's best interest at heart and will finish those songs as best they could the way Michael would have wanted them finished . He is not here to do all the layering effects vocally, but this new song is a disgrace! JMO.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 8:54 pm ET

MAUREEN,

Absolutely . Now Katherine and Mcmillan will have a very clear reason for putting their feet down and getting rid of those two shady characters.


MourningMJ   October 12th, 2009 8:54 pm ET

@LINDA- newyork R: 8:22 p.m. Video Post

Linda,
Michael would sound breathtaking in ANY language... I just can't stop Loving you in French has always been one of my favorites. I just could not listen to it since he passed away, Linda. My heart caved. Thank you for posting it.
ihmj xoxo


Maria   October 12th, 2009 8:57 pm ET

@ ForAllTime (7:03 pm): It would make sense if Sony had announced officially that This Is It is a newly written song intended to be sung at the London shows (by the way, how did we arrive to think it's a newly written song?). Sony's rep said to NYT that it is an old song, used for the closing sequences of the movie.

If there was a This Is It song written recently (after 2001 anyway), Sony would have had to bid for it, like any other recording company.

It's obvious it was a question of negligence, since both Sony and the estate will pay for it in money and negative publicity – nobody can win from something like this. I would say "plain incompetence" instead of negligence, but I saw the song was indeed registered as a MJ song, according to the US Copyright Office.

This is it / Michael Jackson.
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16
Title: This is it / Michael Jackson.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson.
Names: Jackson, Michael
Mijac Music

So this could have been the source of confusion. But then why did Stringer say that Sony didn't even know if it was a song from the Dangerous era or from Off The Wall and they found the song "in a box"??


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 8:57 pm ET

Michael wasn't addicted when he was in Ireland or prior to then.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 8:59 pm ET

There should not be any new songs now that Michael is gone. No one can make the level of music he did the way he did it. That these 'people' are taking his private demos and remixing them (half assedly) and selling them is a disgrace. This is not the way to build his legacy-his previous work does that. He built his legacy, and all that need to be done is remembering his genius.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 9:01 pm ET

Where were these two administrators when all this happened ?? Are they not there to safeguard the interests of the estate ??? Now just see what happened and just infront of their eyes...... I mean Branca has been working with MJ for so many years in that field of music production, and isn't Mc Clain supposed to be a professional in executive music productions ??? I just don't understand what went wrong here.

I am just so sad.......


Luda   October 12th, 2009 9:01 pm ET

Linda,

Thank you very much for the French link!


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 9:02 pm ET

Coco
Perhaps there is a "cold war" & they know they are going anyway, so it's their revenge.


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:03 pm ET

@ Carey & Cocovelvet

I think we can make a difference. I really do. But we really need to make noise. Whether that means writing to the LAPD, the DA's office, leaders such as Rep. Cheryle Jackson, Al Sharpton, Gov. Schwarzenegger, etc. If we are content to accept whatever the media tells us and let this be an "old news story" and "he died four months ago" let's move on, then I'm afraid they will get away with it. I have contacted all those people and continue to do so on a daily basis. Everyone has to follow their own heart and their own beliefs and I understand that.

The media tore this man to shreds, and it was one lie after another after another after another. I'll be damned if they are going to get away with trying to tell me that he contributed to his own death in ANY way or that this was some kind of ACCIDENT by Dr. Murray. A licensed physician couldn't make that many mistakes by accident if he tried!


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:03 pm ET

It feels like such a huge betrayal of MJ by Sony in more ways than one.


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Anyway ladies, let me cry my way to bed now. Its already 3 05 a.m. here.

sweet dreams.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:06 pm ET

Janice-Exactly!!! Murray was a DOCTOR!! How in the hell could he botch something up so horribly-especially when he was doing this for weeks prior. It really makes no sense, and unless Murray himself admits to what really happened, we may never know. He is the key-and we can only hope he tells the truth...and does not end up dead himself before he goes to trial!


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Coco Good night. It does seem very sad. I wonder how we will feel after the movie?


TXmom   October 12th, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Sony meet karma. Karma meet Sony. I've been at work all day, has their finger pointing begun yet??


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:08 pm ET

i was thinking that if there was anybody else involved Murray would be singing his heart out.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 9:10 pm ET

I always thought that the family wouldn't have tried to have the executors removed for nothing. Michael had been let down by Branca before. I still think it's odd that no one else out bid Sony for the film rights.


TXmom   October 12th, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Forgot to add...how the hell did someone miss this?? Even on the youtube video that I watched that had the other singer's version of the song, pretty sure the title on the video said "written by Michael Jackson and Paul Anka"


Cocovelvet   October 12th, 2009 9:11 pm ET

MAUREEN,

....you can say that again. How long have there been speculations that Katherine want it out with them ???? don't forget their time to be reconsidered is just around the corner.

JANICE,

...i second you on that one. MJ has been slundered soo very much in his life, and now still in his resting place.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Goodnight Coco !


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Sony had everything to gain by MJ's death...and that is evident. How is it they are involved in ALL MJ stuff?-he despised them! Murray may have been paid to take the fall...or his family/children threatened. God, I hope it all comes out!!! Karma is right!!!


Luda   October 12th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

I think may be the mix feelings about the song comes from the fact this song is made for a movie not meant to appear on a pop album....
It's not produce the same way... and maybe people were not expecting a movie song...
I don't know if you understand what I mean....

I could be wrong naturally! lol
As I don't know what Michael's plans with that song were...


Jacquelyn   October 12th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Hi Linda


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

@ Carey

The MEDIA told you that Murray had been his doctor for three months. That is a LIE. Murray had been employed for only 11 days by AEG before Michael's death. That is one of the facts that the media has not reported truthfully yet. It is all a lie.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

The brothers recorded backup vocals for the song recently and might be in the movie or reality series at the recording studio working on it. So they were working with McClain to make the song. I think the rush to sell it made people sloppy. How can you be someone's trustee and also produce their music for Sony to sell? The song is in the movie so Paul will get money for that, too.


Lois   October 12th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

What was the name of the tour that MJ announced back in March?


Cali MJ Fan   October 12th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Paul Anka gets 50% of the proceeds– just unclear if it's of the CD, the movie, or if it's out of MJ's portion. TMZ has a few videos from Mr. Anka on their top stories.

Cocovelvet– LAPD Chief Bratton announced his resignation on August 5th, to be effective October 31.


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

How do we really know if Anka co wrote the song. Maybe Michael did 95% of it himself.


Pat   October 12th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Can someone explain, when did Branca let Michael down before?

despite all that is going on, I would still rather John Branca in charge of Michael's estate, especially over someone in his family. At least Branca is doing right by Michael and his kids.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Janice
It seems like only 10% of what we hear or read is true. But people believe all of it . I wonder if the case has been sent to the grand jury yet?

Maureen
You are absolutely right. And the song wasn't worth much till this morning!


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Janice-What is your theory as to what went down? Timeline-who began this plot and what were the steps up to MJ's death? I am not as knowlegable on what transpired (obviously) as you, and I would like to get a clear picture of how this all played out-at least to the best of you knowledge. I am truly blown away by the depths some will go for $$$$$$$$!


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

@ Anne

The grand jury has been hearing testimony for weeks.


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I think the tour started with a "TH"
Ummmm.....Thriller.....no ummm....This....Is..........I can't remember the last word.
IT has escaped me.

Love you Michael ♔


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I like John Branca. I think he feels terrible about what happened. He is trying to make lots of money for MJs kids. I wonder who found the song and whose idea it was to use it. I am assuming this is Sony's fault not Branca. I don't understand how McClain can be a trustee and a music producer.

Janice I knew they heard the girlfriend but I thought once all the evidence was put together it would be presented to ask for an indictment. Is it the same grand jury?


Mila   October 12th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

If John Branca was representing both Anka and Michael at the time this dispute over this song started how is it possible that he didn't remember it on time ?
Especially if it got so much out of hand that Anka was threatening them with a lawsuit back then.

I think today Branca and McMillan are just trying to contain the situation but there must be much more to this story – we'll probably be hearing other sides of it in the future.

It somehow didn't become clear to me what proved that Anka's claim was legitimate and whether he paid any royalty to Michael when he gave the song to Safire


Maureen (UK)   October 12th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

I don't think the lawyers should be paid millions of $ out of the estate trying to resolve this mess.
Why did McClaine say,
.." he knew Michael didn't write the song himself, it's not his style."
That proves nothing. It's a set up.

Goodnight All !


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

@ Carey

First signs were on May 20th when AEG had to postpone the opening performance from July 8th to July 13th. AEG swears this was due to production issues and not Michael's health but those who saw Michael on a daily basis have given testimony stating that it was due to Michael's health. Randy Phillips, president of AEG, said in an interview that can be found on youtube "if he can't get on stage, I'll throw him over my back and carry up there. He's light enough." He also said that in the last week of rehearsals, he brought in someone whose only job was to "feed Michael."

Something happened on June 10th. Access to Michael was restricted severely. He missed rehearsal on June 13, 14 and 16th. Branca was reinstated on June 17th. Murray was hired on June 13th. Michael is dead on June 25th. The truth will come out if we make enough noise and not accept corruption.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Real good point-did MJ get any royalties when Safire recorded the song? It was a collaboration. Frank Sinatra supposedly stole 'My Way' too-hmmm!!:)


Mila   October 12th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Anne,
When they first reported that McClain was co-producer of the movie/album I said the situation was a 'conflict of interest' but everyone was trying to convince me there was nothing to worry about.


Lois   October 12th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Barb – did he not announce his "THIS IS IT" tour back in March – correct me if I am wrong?


Valerie McAfee   October 12th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I wish this wasn't it. Micheal left this world to early in life and my heart really pain for him. I will always be a fan years to come.


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

@ Anne

They have been hearing testimony for weeks. They will continue to hear testimony. Just as they did with Michael in 1993 even though there were never any criminal charges filed because there was no evidence of wrongdoing on Michael's part.

As for Branca, Michael trusted Branca wholeheartedly for many years, but all of that changed in 2005. He had Branca investigated over his dealings regarding Michael's interest in the Sony catalogue in 2005. This information is documented by testimony in the trial transcripts from the trial in 2005. I have a copy of the entire court transcript, 13000 pages. Branca resigned in 2006.

I agree with you 100% that Michael would never want any family member to be executor of his estate, and I sure hope that does not happen. HOWEVER, I fully understand why Katherine wants Branca removed. So it is double-edged sword. The best thing that could happen is that Katherine could win in her pursuit to get Branca removed but for that position to be filled by someone else, not Katherine or any other family member. It is well known Michael never liked any of his family his business.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Janice
Do you think AEG was ignoring MJ's health and assuming eventually he would cancel the contract and pay the penalty? Do you think they thought he would be able to do it? I had no idea Murray was hired so late.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Janice-thanks for that timeline of info. I cringe to think what happened to MJ during those last days. It is so sad...and whatever we can do to see justice prevails, sign me up!!!


Mila   October 12th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Thanks Carey


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the god's.


Wendy1955   October 12th, 2009 9:46 pm ET

@ Carey
@Cocovelvet

I agree. We cannot see Michael's legacy be cheapened like poor Elvis.
I swear I could not handle seeing that. Greed. It is so cold and distasteful. As supporters of MJ we all love everything that he does/did. This was something he never wanted released.
So as the story goes....Sony is the Devil. His words not mine.

Love U Michael Forever and ever and always
Wendy1955


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:46 pm ET

AEG stated MJ hired Murray against their wishes-during an interview. It is so frustrating MJ does not have someone to speak for him. Murray needs to speak for him. Tell the truth!


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

That's it-thanks Lois!

What would I ever do without you!
Now I am going to go listen to my Chiller album.

Love you Michael ♔


denise   October 12th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

lindafromnewyork - WOW that beautiful voice!!! thanks for the video.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Is the Branca/Sony from 2005 the one where if MJs cds did not sell then Sony would get more ownership of his Beatles etc catalogue?


Pat   October 12th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Anne October 12th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I like John Branca. I think he feels terrible about what happened. He is trying to make lots of money for MJs kids. I wonder who found the song and whose idea it was to use it. I am assuming this is Sony’s fault not Branca. I don’t understand how McClain can be a trustee and a music producer.

**************************************************************

I totally Agree on Branca!! I like him too and I think he's doing his best for MJ's legacy and his kids. Just reading some of his comments, I sensed that he feels bad about what transpired and tried to right the wrong.

McClaine I believed found the song and was also instrumental in getting the j-bros to sing backup.


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

@ Anne

Okay, you're asking me to state a personal opinion about the murder. I would rather just state the facts. The only thing I know is they had to recupe their investment somehow. Michael could not go through with the tour and as indebted as Michael was, cash-flow wise, it is unlikely he could have bought his way out of the contract. Randy Phillips also said and I quote "we can cash in the insurance policy if Michael's death was an accident". Sends chills up and down one's spine, doesn't it.


Stacey   October 12th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Song is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it


Carey   October 12th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

If Branca is still in charge of the estate in 2010, can he 'influence' the other member(s) to sell the catalogue in the 'best interest' of the estate? Per his Sony connections, could he do this?


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

@ Anne

Same Branca. Once very trusted by Michael but not since 2005.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Thanks Janice, I have learned a whole lot tonight. It is so complicated.
Randy Phillips also said it was a "do or die moment" for MJ.


Pat   October 12th, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Mila October 12th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

If John Branca was representing both Anka and Michael at the time this dispute over this song started how is it possible that he didn’t remember it on time ?
Especially if it got so much out of hand that Anka was threatening them with a lawsuit back then.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

maybe some due diligence was not done, by SONY and/or whomever else, but why should John Branca remember this incident involving Michael and Paul from 26 years ago, even if he did represent them. From what Paul said, he got the tapes back from Michael after threatening a lawsuit, the song had a different name and Michael changed some of the words on it, so once again, why should John have known?

A LOT has happened over the past 26 years!


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

@ Carey

Actually, there are a lot of people speaking up on Michael's behalf to the police and the grand jury and aiding in the investigation. Unfortunately, as always was the case with Michael, the media will never lend a microphone to those voices and so the media coverage is one-sided. But those in charge of the investigation are hearing those voices...thank God.


tatiana   October 12th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Michael:
Todo mi amor eres tu....................
Te amo
Te queremos Michael...........

Thanks for the video, Still

Muchas gracias


janice   October 12th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

@ Anne

Yes, that's what he said "do or die moment". He couldn't "do" so he had to "die."


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:03 pm ET

@ Carey

Of course!


gigi   October 12th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Could someone consider writing a letter that everyone could send to the LAPD, DA, and political leaders expressing our concerns about Michael's case?

I'm not very good at writing a letter myself, but I really want to do something and communicate my concerns surrounding this whole case. I really do feel that it goes much deeper that just Dr. Murray. I believe that the FBI should investigate everyone that had contact with Michael such as Tohme, AEG, SONY, Dr. Murray, Tom Sneddon Santa Barbara County Police, LAPD, the security, certain individuals in the media, etc.

As far as the song I listened to it 3x, Michael's voice sounds wonderful. Compared to other demo songs that Michael released himself such as "Sunset Driver", "Fall Again", "Beautiful Girl"; this song is "This Is It" sounds like a song in it's rough stages. Even in the ebony interview Michael was listening to and talking about his "PYT" song (you can hear it in the background) and said that he would do a song in a ragged rough stage just to see how it sounds.

IMO. I think this song that SONY was so quick to release was just a ragged rough version of a song that Michael laid down, but didn't want to fully develop and release for himself.

The 3 songs that I mentioned above are all demos and they are complete fully worked out songs. I remember watching the Ebony: Our Icon special and a guy in that special mentioned that Michael would do demos of songs and they would sound just like complete full version songs.

I'm an children's illustrator and can sort of make a comparison of how Michael probably worked from conception to the final product. As an artist there's a conception of an idea, then the rough sketch phase laying those ideas on paper. In Michael's case he would laid down his ideas on tape, then from the rough sketch phase I would pick which rough sketch I would like to develop more into a final sketch. It was probably the same for Michael. Next from those final sketches I start to decide which one I feel would be the right choice to develop into the final piece of artwork. During that whole process I'm thinking about what colors to use, tweaking the composition, get all the details perfect. Michael probably went through a similar process, selecting the instruments, selecting who he would like to work with on a song, the timing of the song, and all the other details that most people don't even think about to create the final version of a song that he was satisfied with himself.

At this point really don't know what's up with SONY, AEG, and every other person that's involved or tries to be involved that has anything to do with Michael.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

I just get so pissed that MJ would take propofol to get rest...he put himself in such a vulnerable and obviously deadly situation. He was too trusting-the thought of anyone taking advantage of anyone in such a vulnerable state sickens me to the core. They will feel the karma!


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 10:07 pm ET

janice
________

I wonder was Branca actually let go because it was something Michael felt he had to do or was Michael already surrounded by people who were controlling everything in his life and Michael was advice to let Branca go. For some reason I tend to trust Branca, he did very well for the estate early on, I think the copywrite thing with the song was just a mistake.


Anne   October 12th, 2009 10:08 pm ET

This is making me nervous about the case. If they had the goods on Murray, wouldn't they have charged him by now?


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:09 pm ET

gigi-lovely comparison!


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Would it be wise for Branca, being under the microscope as he is, to press the sale of the catalogue-and can anyone keep this from happening? Can lawyers for Katherine/kids stop this from happening?


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:15 pm ET

@ gigi

Sure, I'll be happy to.... just copy and paste this if you want. Let's see...

To ______________

I am demanding justice for Michael Joseph Jackson. I do not believe the media. They have told the world nothing but lies about Michael Jackson for almost three decades.

I believe there was foul play involved in his death. I will not be content to stand by and allow any corruption or any attempt at corruption be successful regarding his death and this great loss to myself and to the world.

I, along with millions of others who admired the man, the musical genius, the entertainer, the humanitarian, and the gift of Michael Jackson, demand that the truth be found and that the truth be told.

Sincerely,

P.S. And then on the outside of the envelope, write Justice for Michael Jackson!


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Carey

______________

I can't even imagine how desperate he must have been to go to that extreme as to ask for propofol just to sleep. I can only guess that he got the first dose during surgery but who supplied it after that? I would like to know who actually supplied him with the first dose that made it possible for him to have it for home use. The investigation has to dig deep.


Lois   October 12th, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Don't look too far
To see the star
Illusive as it may be
Perhaps we over see?


Anne   October 12th, 2009 10:17 pm ET

The AP is reporting that the "estate" gave Sony 50 songs and Sony chose This Is It because of the title. They thought it was from the 80s. So I guess it is Sony's mistake about the copyright. Although it does seem like the lawyer Branca and music producer McClain could have thought to check it out themselves before sending it over.

Sony presented an old song to the public as part of a huge movie promotion campaign as though it was newly recorded by MJ and as though he had chosen it for the cd and concert. None of that was true. So now the critics are saying this is a new song? and then he didn't even write it all himself? I hate what they are doing to his legacy.

I hope the movie is what we expect it to be.


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:18 pm ET

@ still a new name

Please see my post at 9:33. I can only say what is documented in the trial transcripts in 2005. Michael did not trust Branca at that time and was having him investigated. Up until then, Branca was one of Michael's most trusted business partners. But that all went down the drain in 2005 and Branca finally resigned in 2006.

Those are just the facts. One can draw their own conclusions. But I don't think Michael wants Branca sitting at the table in 2010 when the Beatles catalogue comes up for renewal because that is what he was having him investigated over in the first place. Those are just the facts.


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 10:24 pm ET

janice
___________

I just remember I saved the YouTube videos about the deposition back then. I will make it a point to watch them. Well now it makes sense why Katherine was fighting to get the executors removed. And people were bad mouthing her saying she was just being greedy. I guess she knew and remembered something many of us didn't.


TXmom   October 12th, 2009 10:26 pm ET

I don't know if this helps his hire date timeline discussion or not but here it is:

Murray's patients have said that they got a letter from him 10 days before MJ was killed...the letter said that he was leaving his practice "indefinitely".
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But then you have to wonder, why did he and AEG get into a public hissy fit with each other a few days after 6/25 with Murray complained about being owed money and AEG saying that he would have to take it up with the estate because AEG considered any advance money given to MJ as going towards the doc's salary (their words, not mine). Forget the $150,000/month, he didn't even make it that long..was publically whining about TEN days pay worth the backlash of a potential jury pool thinking him an ass for complaining about not getting $$ while being a, uh, person of interest who was present as someone was killed???


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Never assume the obvious is true.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:28 pm ET

still me just a new name–

Yes, I hope they do dig deep. His song Morphine 'relax, this wont hurt you...before I put it in, close your eyes and count to ten...don't cry, I wont convert you...no need to dismay, just close your eyes and drift away'-you can just feel this is how his addiction started, and how scared he must have been when he first had to take the pain medication. Propofol is supposedly extremely addicitve...he seemed to have an addicitve personality (opinion) to perfection, etc. It;s just tragic. More tragic are those who took advantage of his vulnerability the wees prior to his death. Sickening.


still me just a new name   October 12th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

TXmom “indefinitely"
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That a strange word to use. I would have thought he may have said a year or two while Michael was touring. But "indefinitley" like he knew he would not be going back.


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:31 pm ET

@ TXmom

Thanks for that information. I hope everyone is beginning to see the truth for what it is. The facts are everywhere but we have to dig for them and we have to demand that those involved in the investigation and all government and state officials are digging for them. Excellent "dig" from you TXmom.


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Janice - Was you unsptairs with Michael and Murray? Did you see everything the press stated as what actually happened?

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Information is not knowledge.


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:40 pm ET

@ Marguerite

The press has not told what actually happened. Thank you.


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

@ Marguerite

Oh yeah, and I forgot, hugs and kisses, and hugs and kisses, and peace and love and all the other.

Right now, we are trying to find justice for Michael Jackson. We can all celebrate after that goal is accomplished.


Pat   October 12th, 2009 10:43 pm ET

from the la times article paul said he was basically going to do the same thing – re-release the song. Hmm, makes me wonder if he would have been as generous (50%) with Michael's estate??

"Anka, who is currently working on a book for release next September, said he had limited interactions with Jackson after the meeting in 1983. He said he recently was listening to the vocals on the songs he recorded with the pop star in the early '80s and was thinking of way to repurpose them.

"I was going to go in and do a duet with him and another artist because I own that track," Anka said. "I was having dialogue with [producer] David Foster, who’s a friend. I was going to take that track and do exactly what they did with somebody else ... But I love what they've done and I do think it's an honest mistake.""


Anne   October 12th, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Janice
People say the leaked autopsy report is not accurate about his weight or maybe even other meds. Do you think it is accurate?


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Does Anka have a vested interest in AEG?? SONY??? Just wonderin! Things that make you go hmmmmm!


Marguerite   October 12th, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Just so you know I am still a believer. I am not an unbeliever.

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True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.


TXmom   October 12th, 2009 10:49 pm ET

still me just a new name and Janice..

Notice how he contradicts himself in the letter...he goes from "ceasing" practicing medicine indefinitely to "my absence will not be permanent". So which did he mean?? Indefinitely or not?
And given all the financial problems we have heard about that practice, WHO in their right mind would WANT to take it over at that point?
And...how exactly was he planning on practicing medicine in the UK? Cuz, even if he was a "private doc" to someone over there, he would STILL be considered to be practicing medicine. Unless he knew that it would never get to that point (having to go over there).
Ditto if the concert had gone onto OTHER countries. HOW did he expect to present himself as a doctor in any capacity if he was not licensed in those countries?


Mila   October 12th, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Pat,
I just think that someone would remember things like this – it seems it was a big conflict.
I would expect that Branca as the lawyer who helped resolved it would have known that Anka gave the song to Safire and that Michael recorded his own version. In fact I would think that Branca probably represented Michael for the copyrighting of the song. He must have heard the song and he must have known Michael renamed it.

I know I would have remembered something like this.
You're right it's been a long time and it certainly not the only dispute for Branca to have represented Michael but it should have rang a bell for him.

There is one more thing I am puzzled by – why did Michael copyright this song alone ?
We know Michael is no song thief (as TMZ called him)
He must have had some reason to believe he owed nothing to Anka for this song.

That is why I said we may hear more sides of this story in the future.


Maria   October 12th, 2009 10:50 pm ET

But fact is also that the witness who has testified about the private investigation on Branca, Mottola and others stated that they couldn't find any wrongdoing. It can be read on the same 2005 trial transcripts.

The witness, MJ's lawyer David Legrand, hired a private investigation company named Interfor to investigate several people from MJ's inner circle – John Branca, Tommy Mottola, Marc Schaffel, Dieter Wiesner, Ronald Konitzer, Al Malnik. Schaffel and Konitzer had suspicions that Branca and Sony had set up an offshore account to funnel money, so they could defraud MJ. But Legrand said the private investigator only found that Sony was depositing money in some offshore account, but no evidence that Mottola or Branca were defrauding MJ in any way. So where is the proof?


Carey   October 12th, 2009 10:51 pm ET

How do these 'leaked' reports get out and what part/s of them are accurate? Half truths? What was his weight-and is 136 really acceptable for a man of 5'9? I'm a woman, 5'5 and weigh 110 and am considered too thin. And no pills, but what other injected drugs other than propofol? This will drive me bananas until the start providing truthful answers-if that ever happens!!


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:54 pm ET

@ Anne

Do I believe it? No I personally do not. The coroner's office says they have not released any information to anyone and they have no idea where that leak came from.

From looking at the movie trailer, he certainly did not look like he weighed 136 pounds for his height.

Lou Ferrigno said in a televised interview that "Michael weighed 58 kg when he first met with him for the tour (128 pounds) and he lost a lot of weight during rehearsals."


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Branca was the one the introduced MJ to the Beatles catalogue. When MJ was investigating Branca it was due to a conflict of interest with Sony. MJ started using other "unreliable" reps. so Branca resigned. Branca approached MJ in June 2009 for new interests that MJ wanted to do and MJ gave him approval to start it up.

Anka will NOT receive 50% portion from the estate for the movie. He will only receive 50% of the portion of the "music producing" rights portion.

Not everyone in this blog agrees that a AEG/Sony is involved in MJ's death. AEG would have made a ton more money if MJ was still alive. It would have not be a profitable decision for AEG or Sony to have MJ murdered.

Branca has already made a public statement that he will never sell the ATV catalogue as that is for the children and he hopes to build on it.

Also, with Anka in the picture now, Sony is the one that went to court for approval of the CD. Which means, the estate can sue Sony for
negliance in not researching the publisher of the 1song.

I also don't feel McClain would enter into a conflict of interest by assisting the Jackson brothers with the song. I don't believe the media on this statement.


Mila   October 12th, 2009 10:56 pm ET

I think that the right thing for Sony \ AEG \ MJ Estate to do now is to take off this song from the movie and the This Is It soundtrack.

It's already a bitter story and if they let it stay linked to "This Is It" the controversy will spread over the movie and the soundtrack.


janice   October 12th, 2009 10:56 pm ET

@ TXmom

Very good question and one that I have been asking myself. He was not licensed in the UK.


Kat-Aust   October 12th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

@Ibelieve, your posts have been fabulous. Thanks you for bring peace on the boards as this subject always gets misunderstood and people get fired up about. Your approach is very mature and logical.

@Tunde and any one else sitting on the fence.

If you are confused and you say you are 50-50 (Tunde). Well to me that is a very high ratio. I was on 5% in believing that MJ was alive when I saw the ambo picture, which was after the memorial (believe it or not). If you do want to remain 50-50, that's OK, its perfectly OK, but if you do choose to start searching for websites that proove Mj is alive... be prepared. You will be come very confused at first, but I think you may see the light after doing a bit of reading. You will not need to research anything, almost everything had been done . There is still a lot that is un-answered and is still being worked out. But as Ibelieve said, a fresh pair of eyes, may make the difference.
And yes I still get sad when I listen to certain songs of Michael's AND I cry every time a see an interview. So this "mourning" continues even for us believers. As a couple pf the posters said, we don't know if we will ever see Michael again, so this in it's self is very sad.
Take Care

@Marina thanks darl...not sure how much I'll have today either. Catch up here on the forum.

PS Is it my imagination or have ALOT of the posts been deleted yet again form the "this is it cover story". I know mine and Maria's and Marina and **mj** and quite a few others I'm sure I read yesterday have gone. You know I don't think its a space issue hmmmmm...this one will probably be deleted too.


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:01 pm ET

The insurance policy taken out by AEG was not enough money to compensate for what AEG already had out of pocket.

Murray did not get paid as his hiring contract was not signed at the time of MJ's death.

How many of your employers watch out for your health, help you to eat, tell you that you are too thin and to go home, etc.???? MJ was the primary individual that ran the entire scene at the rehearsals. He wasn't getting paid 90% of the profits for performing only. AEG needed him and would have done anything to keep him in his best form.


janice   October 12th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

@ Susan62509

I agree with your post for the most part. Still, there is great suspicion by many about him approaching MJ in June of 2009, just 8 days before Michael's death. Michael is not here to say whether or not he was in agreement. That is during the time that "according to testimony" Michael was being heavily sedated by criminal doctors. Just a thought to consider. Everyone has to reach their own conclusions until the truth comes out...if it ever does. I pray that it does.


Carey   October 12th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

Susan62509

Thanks for that insight. I do feel concern for those kids inhereting all this garbage. I wonder if they would be better off making their own way in the world. Lets hope they are smart and use the estate for good, and it in turn does not strip them of their goodness. $ creates evil. As for AEG/SONY, etc., who knows what really went down. MJ is dead and cannot speak for himself, Murray administered the lethal dose, and only he can tell what really happened. Hopefully, he will feel compelled to tell the real truth, and we can move on to remembering MJ for the musical genius he was, flaws and all. Good night all and thanks for the compelling and mature discussion board!!!


janice   October 12th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Me, too. Goodnight all. Justice for Michael Jackson.


Pat   October 12th, 2009 11:13 pm ET

Susan62509, I think the estate should seek out sony to recoup their losses -paying Anka 50%- . I think Branca did the right thing by trying to clean up this mess as quickly as possible.

If Sony drops the "this is it" song, what will be left of the soundtrack, another version of Michael Jackson's Number Ones.


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:14 pm ET

The Grand Jury talked with Murray's girlfriend 2 weeks ago. That is the only media information discussing a Grand Jury in the MJ case. This week is suppose to be the week that the DA will be given the the case.

The 411 tape video at the top of this blog. The reason there are 4 versions is due to editting. I agree with the blogger that posted this earlier. Editting out a personal address and a doctors name is not only considerate, but avoids future lawsuits.


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Hi Maria:

Good to see you again. Hope your day/night went well.

Isn't it interesting that the bloggers that have been here since June have already disected every question/statement on this blog today? I guess it's time for a second round.

I sure wished more bloggers post like you do.........with the facts to back them up.


TXmom   October 12th, 2009 11:26 pm ET

Janice,
Thank you for finding that weight info from Ferrigno...I remembered reading it earlier but couldn't find the link tonight. So basically they are trying to convince us he weighed 10 or 11 pounds HEAVIER when he was dead than when he was training a few months before he died ? Even though Ferrigno has said that he was only eating one meal a day and that he thought MJ was losing weight even after they were doing the training stuff?
If he was roughly the 125/126 pounds back THEN, he very well could have been down to 110-115 by the end. Yeah that cut up chicken and broccoli did him wonders (rolling eyes over here). Will be interesting to see how they edit the film..or do we get to see him dressed in 4 layers of clothing to hide it all?


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:26 pm ET

Janice:

Why Branca approached MJ 8 days before his death IMO was just a coincidence.

Also, how could MJ be heavily sedated by criminal doctors according to testamony? What testamony? If MJ was heavily sedated, how could he rehearse on stage, eat breakfast and lunch with his kids and have daily rehearsals in his home at 2:00 p.m. everyday? Watching the TII video doesn't appear like a heavily sedated MJ to me?


Barbara   October 12th, 2009 11:28 pm ET

Boy it sure would be nice to get a visit from...let's see, uh........drum roll.....................The Informer!

We miss you and your little happy faces.

Would you care to drop in and stay awhile?

Love you Michael (and Informer) ☯


Victoria J   October 12th, 2009 11:31 pm ET

The original question that accompanied the article for this blog ..Do you think this new release has come too soon? So many wonderful comments today as well as my own gut reaction from very early this morning to help me reach my conclusion to the question ... yes, the release came too soon. Obvious now... too many legal issues, Michael's stamp of perfection missing (I really loved gigi's description of an artist at work), how the background vocals may play out in the next few weeks/months, and the never ending questions surrounding Michael/Sony and a whole host of other very good reasons which have been discussed here today. All I can say is Michael did not have anything to do with this, so let those whose greed and willingness to sacrifice the perfection that was Michael Jackson – you guys can now handle this mess. Just please don't drag Michael along with you.


janice   October 12th, 2009 11:33 pm ET

@ Susan62509

I just checked back in for a minute, but I'm really off for good this time. I personally know three people who have given testimony. Dr. Murray's girlfriend's grand jury testimony only made headlines in the "media" because she is directly linked to Dr. Murray. There are lots of people giving testimony.

Goodnight.


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Carey: 11:03 I agree with you 100%.
___________________________________

Pat: I believe it's too late for Sony to pull the song. The estate will end up paying Anka and hopefully get reimbursed by Sony.
-__________________________________________

The broccoli and chicken wasn't ordered for MJ that I read. Someone was sharing their food.


Maria   October 12th, 2009 11:38 pm ET

Hi, Susan! I hope you're well too 🙂

I was thinking about what you said last night – that you don't know the sites where the believers discuss their findings. I visit them at least a few times a week, not only out of curiosity, but to understand some of the things that are said here (for example, Mary U from Ohio kept asking some questions about Murray which could have seemed weird if I didn't know that some believers think that Murray simply doesn't exist).
The 911 call was also discussed there and some people already understood it was a question of editing and nothing more. As for any ultimate, sure proof that MJ is alive, they couldn't find it AFAIK.

As for what Janice says, this is what the This Is Not followers are trying to prove. I expect a lot more to be said about this on these blogs, because their campaign has just started. And I expect the truth is somewhere in the middle and not in black and white, as it is in most cases.


Patricia Ann   October 12th, 2009 11:40 pm ET

Hello guys!! 🙂


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:41 pm ET

Janice:

I think the word "testify" is what is confusing. I always think of the word testify in court proceedings and not with the police department. I use interriogation (sp?) with the LAPD. Perhaps that is why we may be talking apples and oranges.

Have a good evening or day. I enjoyed talking with you.


Mila   October 12th, 2009 11:43 pm ET

Barbara,
I think that today's mess with the song is a proof that Michael is gone. He wouldn't have sat watching this brew and not made a hint that the song was disputable.


DN   October 12th, 2009 11:44 pm ET

Oh what a day, so much excitement. Then the reality hit, who stepped on Michaels vision. The release of an unfinished demo!! ..How could they??. Michael believes in HIS perfection, not mine or yours but HIS. .

John Mclaine how could you, after all your efforts to get Michael to sing again with his brothers in 2001/02, then take Randy Jackson with you to Sony, and allow the brothers voices to be layered over anything of Michaels. The answer never changed Mr Mclaine it was always NO NO NO!!

Mr Branca how could you forget the wonderful Paul Ankas song credits and publishing rights. Nothing can be released without the co-writers agreement, unless the agreement differed.. It didnt Mr Branca you represented Michael at that time and dealt with it.

Such short memories and these 2 are executors for the estate of Michael Jackson. But lets not forget their penchant for Sony, who didnt have a penchant for Michael shall we say. Michael liked to expose the dirty dealing of Sony. Small minded people grasped the image of the angry man, but never wanted to listen to the reasons why. Oh what a stomping time we had on our missions in 2002. SONY SUCKS, SONY KILLS. They sure tried kill a legacy and smear our beloved Michael today, but then....

The outcry from those who loved Michael around the world, the media outlets contacted, Sony bombarded and blasted, we wont mention anymore names and many campaigns, like i say its been a very busy day for everyone, Michaels world army, his soldiers of love actually had a sense of achievement today...what an amazing feeling.

Mr Paul Anka had left it in the hands of his lawyers... but because of todays actions, he achieved settlement without any court hearing, etc, in record time. He will wake up tomorrow knowing he will get his rightful 50% share. Michael admired Paul Anka.

The story started off sad, then became angry, then had a happy ending for some. Michaels vision has to be better protected in future..But in all this we have seen those very people and corporations for who they really are. Greedy, underhanded snakes with ulterior motives.

Branca and Mclain will be executors of the estate of Michael Jackson for at least another year. The Sony catalogue is in review Sept 2010. Dont ever be blindsided by these two.

Did Randy Jackson really find that incomplete demo in a box, or was it found on a hardrive that did NOT belong to him?? Just a thought!

I hope you all listened to Michaels unfinished demo with your eyes closed. It was that very emotion in his voice you heard that united emotions of the world for him today....We are the only voice he has now...We Owe Him.

Its been a long day therefore i bid you all goodnight. 🙂


Mila   October 12th, 2009 11:48 pm ET

Pat, Susan,
If Sony drops the song there is always something else to put in there – e.g. they can have someone recite a few more of Michael's poems.

Or perhaps they can try to find the song "Babies Smile" – another unreleased MJ song.

Or a few of the passionate speeches that he must have been giving every now and then during the rehearsals – can you imagine Michael speaking to a group of people and not saying something inspirational (I can't)

And if nothing else just a few beautiful old songs.

I'd prefer anything to a controversy related to This Is It.


Susan62509   October 12th, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Hi Maria:

I asked the question for the site last night because I'm trying to figure out where their heads are at. I went to both hoax site and TIIN and could not believe what I was reading.

The TIIN site promoting the greed of AEG/Sony, yet telling the fans to be sure and see the movie. I was left with the impression that an AEG/Sony representative created the site. Also, to carry a gold fake coffin to the movie.

The Hoax site appears to me to be started and supported by the fans that followed MJ to his home, work, doctors visits, etc. Sorry, but I look at the mentality of fans that would spend so much time following a person's every move. That appears scary to me.

All above in my opinion only. As in life, we all misinterupt even what we write daily on this blog, so disecting each and every word without a voice tone, can definitely be misleading. Anxiously awaiting a trial.


ibelieve   October 12th, 2009 11:55 pm ET

@ Kat
Thank you for your kind words. Please feel free to come over to MJ's Chat and we'll continue to talk. See you there.


gigi   October 12th, 2009 11:56 pm ET

@Janice: Thanks for the letter.


Barbara   October 13th, 2009 12:00 am ET

Mila I understand your point of view.

Love you Michael ♔


Mila   October 13th, 2009 12:02 am ET

@Barbara,
What do you think ?


Mila   October 13th, 2009 12:05 am ET

What a sad sad day this turned out to be – and it started so well ..


Susan62509   October 13th, 2009 12:05 am ET

Mila:

What great ideas you have. I can see where Sony messed up with the copyright appearing in MJ's name.


Maria   October 13th, 2009 12:08 am ET

@ Susan: The TINI followers who have watched his every move and came to the conclusion that he was drugged against his will and manipulated like a helpless puppet exclude from the start the idea that MJ could have his responsibility regarding his health and that he was a businessman too. This is one mistake IMO. Other mistakes have to do with lack of information. I saw a fan writing somewhere that Tommy Mottola is the owner of Sony, or others who believe that MJ owned part of Sony, because they can't tell the difference between Sony and Sony/ATV.

About the movie – everybody will see there exactly what they want to see. The believers will see a healthy man leaving clues of his intention to fake his death and come back some day. The TINI followers will see faked and old footage, doubles and impersonators, or maybe thick layers of clothes meant to mask an unhealthy body. Others will boycott the movie. Few will care to see THE WORK OF MICHAEL JACKSON and what he wanted to do to prove his creativity. And this is saddening. Because his heart was with this project, not against it.


Susan62509   October 13th, 2009 12:12 am ET

Mila:

I don't know if it was a sad day. I call it a "rerun" day.

I sure hope the trial will be open to the media. That will be the only way we will find out the facts of this case. I don't think Murray is a fall guy. If so, it would have been planned entirely different.


Letta   October 13th, 2009 12:12 am ET

Hello believe.

No my yet?


mary u from ohio   October 13th, 2009 12:20 am ET

Believers will see doubles on This Is It....


Mila   October 13th, 2009 12:23 am ET

Regarding the TINI fan followers – it strikes me how they all say the same things in their testimonies in exactly the same way.
Especially that phrase "I didn't think it was my place to say [something]" – i think you will find it in all 4 testimonies on TINI.

Also look at their letters to Michael – same style of tiptoing around the issue. In fact their letters sound to me like servants speaking to their master (with flattery and fear)

They seem to be like a collective mind that have their own set laws of how they think and how they speak to and about MJ.

I even read this in one of the testimonies:
"talking about it amongst fans can make you an outcast because it is regarded as criticising Michael"

It's like some sect or something.

I'm not saying what their testimonies are not to be believed but one needs to take them with a grain of salt as to how objective they really are.


Letta   October 13th, 2009 12:23 am ET

@ Mary u from ohio

Doubles on what?


Susan62509   October 13th, 2009 12:24 am ET

Oh Maria:

I just love your writings and perspective.

The entire "skinny" discussion is overwhelming to me, along with "being controlled" and "drugged against his will". I sure would like someone to tell me how that is done. I'm pleased that the LAPD is interviewing the people that MJ worked, lived, shared companionship with. There would probably be a more consistent story of MJ's welfare and health.

When I log into new sites, I always read their policy clause. On the TINI site, anyone who submits content (including blogs), you are granting them an irrevocable, worldwide, royalty free license to publish, display, modify, distribute and syndicate your content worldwide.................The word "modify" blew me away.


Barbara   October 13th, 2009 12:24 am ET

@Mila: right now, I am not certain of anything.

I just wait and hope that wherever Michael is...he is happy and at peace.

"May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
May the rains fall soft upon your fields... and Michael, until we meet again...(in Heaven or on Earth)
May God hold you in the palm of His hand."

Love you Michael ☄


Mila   October 13th, 2009 12:25 am ET

scarecrow,
will you, please, come and say something.


sherry   October 13th, 2009 12:28 am ET

ppowet out storm here,using cell. Love song,bittersweet day,,,,,hugs to all concervimg bzttery on cell but had to pop in and hug and say loved song,,,,,,


Susan62509   October 13th, 2009 12:30 am ET

Barbara:

That was beautiful. Did you write that yourself?


Mila   October 13th, 2009 12:31 am ET

sherry :- )
you're so sweet – glad you didn't leave us.
you better conserve that battery.


Marguerite   October 13th, 2009 12:33 am ET

I've learned to trust myself, to listen to the truth, to not be afraid of it and not try and hide it.


Sandy-Houston   October 13th, 2009 12:39 am ET

Yes...another sad day.
And unfortuntely there are more in the days to come.

MMJ & LORI-JFM
Where are you? Don't give up on these blogs. We need your expertise when it all breaks loose.

Gods peace to you Michael


Barbara   October 13th, 2009 12:43 am ET

No Susan62509-I would have sourced the poem if I knew the author. It is not mine and I do not take credit for it.

The verse is actually a very old Irish blessing of which the author is unknown, and I just added Michael's name.

Sorry for the confusion.

Love you Michael ♔


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 12:45 am ET

I disagree that The "This Is It Song " was rushed. As usual Michael's vocals are pure and gorgeous. I think it's cool that the title matches the name of the movie and it's a great song. The more I listen to Michael's songs, even the less popular ones, they grow on me. They're all unique and beautiful, especially with Michael's angelic voice. I think his brothers backgrounds are nice and I think Michael would be happy with the song. I just finished reading a book today–and it really spoke to me about Michael's spirit in an unusual way. The book is called "Lovely Bones". It is about a murdered girl, and she narrates the book from heaven. It tells how she still lives with her family as a spirit/soul, communicates with them etc. As I finished it, I was thinking of Michael, and how he is probably everywhere watching us, and loving seeing us think about him and remember his spirit as we listen to his music. As I dance and sing and become happier through his words and music, I truly believe he is there and smiling. I know he has changed many people's attitudes through his music. Since his death, I have been more giving, caring and joyful. I think he sees this and is dancing and singing in heaven. Don't get me wrong–I am mad and sad that he is gone, but we need to move on... for him, for the world and for the children and the human race.


Barbara   October 13th, 2009 12:54 am ET

@Jessica-I read Lovely Bones as well. Fantastic book and I find it very interesting that you related it to Michael. That's a neat perspective.

By the way-I recommend the book to all you bloggers...

Love you Michael ♔


Maria   October 13th, 2009 12:59 am ET

To modify the content on the site? LOL I didn't notice. Perhaps to modify things like Mottola owning Sony... who knows!

Their fear about being regarded as MJ's critics is not without base, as there are many fans who say that anyone who depicts MJ as being less than perfect is a hater. But it's very ironic to see that the same fans who call the TINI followers "haters" are also vilifying other people who have talked about MJ's addiction problems from an opposite point of view (for ex Chopra, Susan Etok – they never claimed MJ was drugged against his will).
IMO they can be called a sect in that very few people can afford to literally follow MJ for days and weeks and months, without having to work or study or doing other things that haven't to do with being fans.


still me just a new name   October 13th, 2009 1:00 am ET

new blog just posted


A. Smith   October 13th, 2009 1:02 am ET

Another new song by Michael Jackson? What a surprise, nah its' just the cash register ringing and ringing and ringing.

Perhaps if you take 6 Xanax (rx) tablets at once, the music and new album cover will seem more in the groove. Michael Jackson is without dispute, the King of Dope. And from reports that surfaced since his infamous Hair/Wig Jell Pepsi Commercial fire, he was addicted to pain-killers. That event took place 25 years ago. It appears the King of Dope spent HALF of his life seriously addicted to multiple prescription drugs upto and including at the end of his life 25 years later.

Why hasn't Janet Jackson been charged with HINDERING and EVIDENCE TAMPERING? She reportedly stated that she took the hard drives out of Michael Jackson's computer(s) shortly after his death. WHAT WAS ON THOSE HARD-DRIVES? Drug Orders, Child Porn, Alias's? WHY hasn't the LA Police checked those Hard Drives for evidential information?

What was on those computer Hard Drives that Janet Jackson reportedly removed from Michael Jackson's home, immediately after his death?

A. Smith
Oregon


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 1:03 am ET

2 Bad and MJ alive believers, I don't have a problem with you guys believing Michael is alive, even though I don't think he is. In fact I hope you're right. I believe Michael's spirit is alive , especially in the hearts of his fans and those who listen to his music and give him a chance. I would love for all of his fans to somehow come together to celebrate him, like the celebrations around the world after he died. It would be so amazing, because people of all races, ages, and religions loved him. I can't think of anyone else like this, except the pope , jesus, lady diana and ghandi. That sure says a lot for Michael.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 13th, 2009 1:06 am ET

Anybody checking out the Paul Anka story? He co-wrote the song and is claiming half of the profit now. The song is from 1983. Sony and the Jackson brothers should have down their homework.


Maria   October 13th, 2009 1:14 am ET

Jessica October 13th, 2009 12:45 am ET

The more I listen to Michael’s songs, even the less popular ones, they grow on me. They’re all unique and beautiful, especially with Michael’s angelic voice.
=====
So very right. I fell in love with a lot of demos and old songs, from Scared of the Moon and Hot Street to We've Had Enough and the wonderful For All Time. And after I read that Quincy Jones had wanted Ain't Nobody (Rufus&Chaka Khan) to be given to MJ for Thriller, I can only dream how it would have been if this song had been performed by MJ.


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 1:40 am ET

Eli: I checked the Paul Anka story on the LA Times. Paul Anka is agreeing that he and Michael cowrote the song. Then a Safire sang it, with Michael and Anka as cowriters. So music producers would have known they wrote it, especially his lawyers and accountants. So
Branca and Mcclain would have known about it. Maybe they're just getting old and they're obviously busy, and forgot. I'd say communication between the producers of the movie , Ortega and others is the issue. The story will come out later.


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 1:45 am ET

@Maria: What albums are these old songs you mentioned on? I was referring to songs that I usuallly passed over, but have started to listen to them more, on his main 5 or 6 cds.


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 1:48 am ET

Have you guys heard the newest This Is It movie clip advertisement. It was on during Jay Leno. He's singing Human Nature, and he sounds amazing. His voice is a little lower during the chorus, but he sure hits the high parts just like in the first recordings. Beautiful!! I have to drive 5 hours to Vancouver Canada, because none of the smaller towns I live near are showing it. It's ok, Michael's worth the drive.


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 2:10 am ET

@billiejean: Michael wrote and sang many songs over the years. For every album, he selected from hundreds of songs. He had to pick the best ones for the era, and I'm sure he often tried to choose his favourites. Haven't you heard at the end of the Bad cd , where Quincy jones says they asked Frank Dileo to listen to Another Part of Me and Streetwalker and help them to pick which one would go on the album. Michael wanted Streetwalker, but they chose Another Part of Me. I thought I agreed, but the more I listen to Streetwalker I love it too. It must have been so difficult to narrow it down to 10 or 15 songs. I can't believe how many amazing songs Michael wrote–he was a genius.


Maria   October 13th, 2009 2:12 am ET

@ Jessica: For All Time is on Thriller 25 (2008). The others are unreleased, but all can be heard on Youtube.


Maria   October 13th, 2009 2:15 am ET

Oh, and Streetwalker too 🙂


Crystals777   October 13th, 2009 3:53 am ET

I have listened to This is it, I am no a great fan of it, Not as good as some other ones but I guess it will grow on me.. I don't think MJ would have released it if he were alive..??? Again SONY sucks no wonder MJ hated them. it all for the Money $$$$$$$$
Would have like to hear a Place With No Name that song sounds awesome,,..

I am 50/50 on him being alive, to many conflicting stories.. Also if Dr Murray called Dr Kliene on how to administer Propofol then Why did Dr Kleine admit on ET that he didn't know that Dr Murray existed.
All Lies fake photos Its all BS........

As Judge Judy says. If is dosn't make sense it not real ........

Wait for the truth to come out hopefuly soon........


Crystals777   October 13th, 2009 3:56 am ET

I love the song For All Time I am just listening to it now ...


Tunde,Hungary   October 13th, 2009 4:49 am ET

Yes,the Pleca With No Name i hope thay gonna relese.


2 bad   October 13th, 2009 7:01 am ET

Jessica October 13th, 2009 1:03 am ET

2 Bad and MJ alive believers, I don’t have a problem with you guys believing Michael is alive, even though I don’t think he is. In fact I hope you’re right. I believe Michael’s spirit is alive , especially in the hearts of his fans and those who listen to his music and give him a chance. I would love for all of his fans to somehow come together to celebrate him, like the celebrations around the world after he died. It would be so amazing, because people of all races, ages, and religions loved him. I can’t think of anyone else like this, except the pope , jesus, lady diana and ghandi. That sure says a lot for Michael.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

@JESSICA:

I DO NOT think Michael Jackson is alive.

Read my post from October 12th, 2009 2:40 pm ET

I don't have a problem with people who believe that though. I have an open mind and listen to all sides, and I think people have a right to believe if they want to, but no....Sadly, I think he was murdered!


Susan62509   October 13th, 2009 7:49 am ET

From what t.v.guide reported, Murray made 3 phone calls. Two calls to his Vegas office and 1 to his Houston office. The trial will probably reveal where Murray called and hopefully inform the public.

I don't believe MJ is alive. I do enjoy talking with the people who think he is. The **mj**'s and informers that come on the LKL blog drive me nuts though. There have been 6 or 7 so far and have made fools out of us (me included) that first believed him. I am very sensitive when another imposter enters the LKL blog. I go on defense hoping it doesn't happen again to the new bloggers.


Kat-Aust   October 13th, 2009 8:37 am ET

@ Ibelieve

Your comment:
October 12th, 2009 11:55 pm ET
@ Kat
Thank you for your kind words. Please feel free to come over to MJ’s Chat and we’ll continue to talk. See you there.
-------------------------------
Sorry I don't know which chat you r talking about. Which one?


Jessica   October 13th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

2Bad: Sorry, I didn't read the blog very carefully. It still doesn't matter to me what people believe, so long as they give Michael a chance and get to know his life and story.
@Maria: Thanks. I have The Thriller anniversary cd, but forgot about that song. Will check the others out on youtube. Will they be released on cd in the future, does anyone know?


Jan   October 13th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

Janice and TXmom your posts are really interesting. Thanks!


Jan   October 13th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

contact details if a letter is needed to be sent:

LAPD HEADQUARTERS

150 N. Los Angeles St.
Los Angeles, CA 90012
contact@lapd.org

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-558-3160 ( new number )


Alicia   October 15th, 2009 5:10 am ET

ibelieve, thank you for keeping the hope alive. and you too, mary u. I am not ready to give in to the 'knowledge' that MJ is really gone.....not ready. sorry, no offense to anyone else....


salah   October 27th, 2009 8:26 am ET

this shouldn't affect most of you but it hurts me to see people in Ogadenia living in such dies situation administrated by the Ethiopian government i cant but help think about the millions of ethnic Somali's living in hunger becouse of this type of bull***


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