September 23, 2009

Tonight on Larry King Live: Michael Moore!

Posted: 11:46 AM ET

art_michael_moore_lklTune in tonight for a lively conversation with Michael Moore, whose new movie Capitalism: A Love Story is getting lots of buzz. We'll ask Moore about who's to blame for last year's financial collapse and get his take on health care reform, Tea Parties, and whether labels like "socialist" apply to him. You won't want to miss it!

And we want to hear from you:

What do you want Larry to ask Michael Moore tonight?

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Lori - Justice For Michael   September 23rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Mr. Moore – what is your take on the death of Michael Jackson?

Michael C. McHugh   September 23rd, 2009 12:42 pm ET

I'm a progressive and democratic socialist, so naturally my love for capitalism is minimal. I do not want the government to run everything from central headquarters, but neither do I want the capitalists to run the government, as they have been doing throughout the Second Gilded Age of the last 30 years. They have had everything their own way since Reagan was elected, and it ended in a crash and depression, as did the First Gilded Age of the late-19th Century and the New Era of the 1920s.

As a historian, I knew 20 years ago or more that this "free market" capitalist era would end in another depression, because most of the wealth and income were being concentrated in the upper 20% of the population–especially the top 1%. It was unsustainable and unstable to have the whole planet like that, and it finally toppled over. There were many warning signs that this was coming, including the 1987 stock market crash, the savings and loan debacle, the Dot.Com crash, Enron, WorldCom, etc, etc.

I think we need a more mixed economy, with a stronger public sector and some banks, and industries own by the state, including a National Investment Bank to fund new industries, jobs, technology, infrastructure and research in THIS country, and also to aid state and local governments facing bankruptcy. Then we would also have a regulated capitalist sector of the economy, and a cooperative, worker-owned and non-profit sector. In other words, we would have a mixed economy instead of one where big business interests ran everything.

One more thing. One reform we really need is to abolish all private donations to politicians and political parties, by constitutional amendment if necessary. It is absolutely killing democracy in this country to have billions in big corporate money corrupting the whole political process at every level.

Maybe we just need to call a constitutional convention and start over, and then if anyone wants to opt out of the Union at hat point, let them.

Carol   September 23rd, 2009 12:49 pm ET

Why in the world do we give this guy the authority to speak unapposed to so many young people? The capatalist framework is what provides jobs. If Moore doesn't like it, why does't he move somewhere else? We have a new generation who really would rather not work, yet deserve access to someone elses wealth. My kids are in the twenties, and they deal with so many lazy unmotivated friends who just want free health care, and entitled to a big salary. If we lose our entrepreneurial mindset, we will lose our cempetative edge as a country. Micheal Moore needs someone to challenge his simplistic and idealogical rants. CNN needs to think about what they are encouraging.

Scott F-Dallas,Tx   September 23rd, 2009 1:23 pm ET

How much do the banks, financial institutions, and large special interests really control this country? It is obvious they own Congress.
They spend millions trying destroy reform. What if they spent this money instead on health care reform, or education, to name a few.
I realize that the top 1% own a large share of the nations wealth and want to keep the electorate confused and uneducated. An educated public is not what they want. I feel like a pawn in a giant PONZI scheme between these interests and the federal government.
Then to make things worse we live in a doctrinaire society that only listens to opinions from talk radio and cable that we think we believe in. We never hear balanced information just spin. I hope newspapers make a comeback. At least their is some balance. When I tune into Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh all I hear is constant WHINING. They invoke fear and hatred and make up " facts". I sincerely hope this country wakes up before it is too late.

Mary G. from Michigan   September 23rd, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Michael ,

Will you ever do a sicko part II ?

Prashant   September 23rd, 2009 3:31 pm ET

@ Carol

If Capitalism is so good then we need to realize that it has no protectionism too ie the comapnies can outsource jobs to other countries as it is profitable for them to do so. A job done by 2or 3 americans can be done by a single person in such countries with a low pay and no benefits at all. Did u ever think about that? Socialism is bad but i guess capitalism is also bad.Only if there is protectionism in capitalism then we can realize the importance of capitalism.

Rhonda   September 23rd, 2009 3:41 pm ET

How does he feel about Obama as the president, and does he think he is doing a good job thus far, what does he think about this H1N1 flu and the vaccine's for it that they are trying to make us take. And lastly, what does he think of the new Health care Proposal

Mike C.   September 23rd, 2009 5:01 pm ET

He is far from a liar and far from anti-American. He is more American that any of these right-wing nuts, and exposes the truth. He is labled every name in the book, but he is a true American hero practicing freedom of press and speech at its finest . Thanks Larry for having such a great guest on your show. I will definitely be watching, and I think... Read More you will be suprised after seeings tonight's ratings. As for my question- What do you have to say to all your critics that say you are no telling the truth and how can you prove them wrong?
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Carmen69   September 23rd, 2009 6:03 pm ET

When I was a college student I remember once that in order to start a debate about the war´ implications for the US and the world, I introduced a movie of Michael Moore: Fareignheit 9/11 in front of my classmates and professor. It was really interesting the way Mr. Moore analized all the terrible implications of this non sense war, at the end nobody wins (as always). I can´t wait for your next movie. Thank you Larry.

Roland-St George, UT   September 23rd, 2009 6:13 pm ET

Dear Mr. Moore, any chance you plan to do an expose on disability insurance companies? I paid for years into a disability insurance policy through my employer never in my wildest dreams expecting that I would ever have to file for it. Unfortunately I did become disabled, but when I applied for the benefit they denied my claim (and I also followed their appeals process)...they used the excuse of a pre-existing condition because I had seen a doctor for something similar years earlier. I was furious. If you look this company up on the web they have done the same to other people. I had no idea what my rights were and also when you are sick you don't have the mental state of mind to hire a lawyer to fight a disability insurance company that is supposed to be on your side. You did such a great job on SiCKO and I'm looking forward to your new film. Thanks, Roland S Burritt, St George, UT

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 6:57 pm ET

Michael Moore:

I just love your Witt and humor with your movies! You certainly do your homework and obtain accurate statistics! Very impressive.

(( Question ))

Will you ever make a movie based on the right-wing Christian fanaticism and how it has impacted the USA?

I believe that Cheney and Rowe among others stirred up this fanatical group of people who know only to well how to follow like sheep and were pretty much led to slaughter taking down the rest of us and ultimately dividing America.

I am really looking forward to seeing Capitalism: A love Story! I saw a clip on your AIG request. I just loved it. The only thing I would have added is 5,000 bit part actors to be in the background chanting... "We are Americans and we want our money back" "We are Americans and we want our money back" .....while you are holding the bags requesting the money!

alexlyrics   September 23rd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

Michael Moore should next tackle the corrupt workers compensation system in new york.

eJay   September 23rd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

Greed is what's destroying capatalism, not Obama, American companies exploiting poor countries for cheap labor then sending their products back over here. What happen to putting money back into the system.

Benjamin A. Poston/Cookeville,Tennessee   September 23rd, 2009 7:38 pm ET

Hi Mike, I became a fan while watching your movies.I was in the military and got sick,they do not want to pay for anything when they discharge you . they will say existing prior to service. The military does not care about it's soldiers. Over 100,000 soldiers from Vietnam have killed themselves since 1972. We do not care about our soldiers when they come home .alot of them are homeless. I just went through basic training but after i got out i hated the us army. They will pay for your college but you will get killed in the process. We have become a big bully in world affairs that runs over little countries for profit.The reason big business and the rich don't want universal healthcare is because they will have to pay for it,and they will lose money off huge healthcare profits. We are no longer a democracy. But a country run by big business.

Matt, Washington DC   September 23rd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

Gotta Love Capitalism. Banks act irresponsibly, and what does our
government do? They lower overnight lending rates to near zero for far too long so banks can behave more irresponsibly; blowing up a housing bubble in the process. These same banks, which are apparently too big to fail, nearly go belly up. So, our government TAKES money from the very citizens who lost nearly everything as a result of the banks actions and lends it to these banks, which are now bigger than ever. To help keep the banks “solvent” the government lowers rates to near zero yet again. These banks then lend the money back to the citizens it borrowed it from; only at loan shark rates. To show their appreciation, these banks start charging us citizens exorbitant fees and interest rates; that’s if they haven’t already foreclosed on our homes or repossessed our vehicles.

If this isn’t Love what is?

Dianne   September 23rd, 2009 7:50 pm ET

Everybody keeps kocking the bailout. Boehner, McConnell, and Cantor keep using this an excuse for everything no. However, AEG, insured cities (which includes the police, sanitation, all city workers) airlines (foreign as well) and other insurances. All thesee people world over would have become unemployed. If the government didnot prop them up again and the markets gone–the movie Wall Street would have happened. Politicians know this, but keep running around saying no. Politicians allowed this to happen because big business paid enough in campaign contributions and other donations to them. The founding fathers new about greed and knew patroitism could never withstand greed. Of course the greedy keep raising "free market" just to keep things the same.

SuzieCanada   September 23rd, 2009 8:01 pm ET

Michael, please tell them how great Canada's health care system is, because IT REALLY IS!!

Ron San Bruno, Ca   September 23rd, 2009 8:19 pm ET

Michael, would you consider doing a series for public or cable news with a similar format liken to Carl Sagan's Cosmos?

janette tx   September 23rd, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Whatever happened to Hugh?

Judith   September 23rd, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Everyone that votes No to Health Care as a public option,we the people that put these politicans in should be able to see their records if they are getting campaigns and other perks from Ins Companies.

Doctors I've spoken to want the public option.They have said that is the 'only way' to keep the Ins Companies honest.

The Party of No (GOPs) feel they have all the time in the world while
the American People do not have one day to wait.
Thousands each week are getting their pink slips.
Cantor stated to a woman who is in dire need that can't get medicaid
to try to get help somewhere poor.What kind of answer is that Cantor?

It's time to light a fire cracker under them to get them moving.They've
had over 40 years talking about health care.Since Pres Obama has been in they've had months.They knew this would be the first issue that would be voted on for the American People.

If the Party of No wants to drag their feet then we as their bosses should hold their Pay Checks until they find a way for Health Care Public Option.This is the Marches that the Americans should do in Washington.

Frederico Gouveia   September 23rd, 2009 8:59 pm ET


If you could personally advise Obama on his healthcare initiative, what would you recommend that he does/says to convince the American people?

Terry, TX   September 23rd, 2009 9:02 pm ET

Michael Moore.....We need to start and take all your money and pass it many millions are you making....Will Ferrell makes a stupid internet video with the radicals Moveon...trashing businesses who make a profit....and this moron profits $38,000,000 dollars a year.....come on celebrities we want your money toooooo......

I would rather have a "Jack Bauer" type of Democrats representing the Nation.....but no look at the freaks....including Moore....

...Pelosi, Reid, Chris Dodds, Rep Murtha, Sean Penn, Janet Garofalo, Jamie Foxx, Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Joy Behar, Bill Maher, Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, Al Gore, Richard Belzer, Schumer, Perez Hilton, Senator Leaky Leahy, Will Ferrell, Geithner, Boxer, Rachel Maddow, Keith Olberman, Rep Conyers, Rep Maxine Waters, Rep Boxer, Rep Meeks, Rep Jefferson, Oliver Stone, Ron Howard, Charlie Sheen, Demi Moore, Kathy Griffin, Jon Stewart, Jay Letterman, Rep Davis, Franklin Raines, Charlie Rangel, Chris Dodds, Rep Clay, Waxman, Cafferty, Susan Roesgen and Anderson on CNN, Eric Holder, and Janet Napitalano, Barney Franks, Murtha, Rep Watson, Rev Wright, Farakahn, CZARVan Jones, CZAR Sunstein, CZAR Rosa Brooks, CZAR Browner, CZAR Lloyd, CZAR Jennings, CZAR Holdren.....ACORN, TIDE organization, Apollo Alliance, SEIU....

The Democratic Party has been hi-jacked by creepy radical left ....hello anyone still normal out there..... take the Party back ....

Sean B   September 23rd, 2009 9:03 pm ET

I agree 100% with Michael Moore, capitalism has collapsed on itself and now the companies are running the show.

Bo   September 23rd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

I love you Michael Moore, thanks for telling us the truth.

Rich Johnson   September 23rd, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Larry, I really like the way Michael Moore fights for the little guys. I thank him for getting the word out. I agree, Capitalism is a failure and the big corporate executives are taking from the poor and keeping it amongst themselves. This is Un-American.

Dianne   September 23rd, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Michael the finance and economics are not that simple in the 21st century. If the government walked away pension funds would be loss and democracy is not enough anymore. Free market is just another word today for patroitism. We need rules and regulation established to prevent Wall Street from creating this financial devastion everr again. Capitalism needs regulation. Let's hope Waqshington has learned this lesson.

Susan Eastman   September 23rd, 2009 9:12 pm ET

I believe it was the late Pope John Paul II who stated when he went to Cuba that capitalism must be tempered by altruism. Pure capitalism is amoral; it is no different or better than the lion in the Sereghetti killing a gazelle and eating it for dinner. It's neither good or bad and the lion doesn't care if it's good or bad it killed the gazelle – it's just dinner to the lion. Pure capitalism is the same way. It is anarchy. It doesn't care if people get hurt or killed; just as long as a profit is made.

Ben   September 23rd, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Mr Moore, aren't you benefiting from Capitalism from this film and all the others you have put out?

Mary   September 23rd, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Listen up: Capitialism collapsed and went right to the government for a (socialism) handout. BRING BACK REGULATION. They need to be accountable. We'll never get healthcare passed until the greed of insurance companies and big pharmacueticals is in check.

Thank you, Michael Moore. We love you and NEED you to keep shining the light in dark places.

Chris   September 23rd, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Michael Moore is this movie free for the American people since you hate capitalism? Or at least come clean on how much YOU are making on this movie.

anna   September 23rd, 2009 9:16 pm ET

God bless you Michael Moore.I love all your films and can't wait for the new documentary.I hope every one goes to see it because alot of people need to wake up and realize the thieving that is going on and that WE THE PEOPLE got robbed.

Richard Cunningham   September 23rd, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Michael – What are your thoughts about having Wall Street pay for National Health Insurance by imposing a Stock Transfer Tax of 1% on all securities bought and sold within ninety days. This period of ninety days would separate the investors from the speculators and risk-takers and it was the speculators and risk-takers that caused this recession. The dollar volume of the regulated stock market is more than 25 trillion dollars and the dollar volume of the unregulated securities traded is in excess of 50 trillion dollars. The 1% tax would equal 750 billion dollars a year and 7 1/2 trillion dollars over ten years.

Kitty   September 23rd, 2009 9:18 pm ET

He's got it exactly right! Over the past several years, corporations have been allowed to buy up other companies, merge, cut jobs, merge, cut jobs, and on and on, and have been rewarded for it on Wall Street. And then we wonder where the jobs went? They aren't coming back because they were shipped overseas by these big corporations who own or control practically every segment of the ecomomy. Where has the SEC been all these years allowing all this to happen?

CHM   September 23rd, 2009 9:19 pm ET

DODIE-CALIFORNIA....I assume you believe these right wing Christian fanatics are Republicans since others have labeled them so. Only 22% of the country is Republican; most are independents such as I. Only a small portion of the 22% Republicans would fall into your right wing Christian fanatics so why would they have any affect? If they do, it's only in our head.

I have never heard or seen anything of Cheney to suggest he is a right wing Christian fanatic. You give a few far too much credit. If you don't like a particular party fine, but these broad brush strokes so often posted seem lacking in facts.

Sherry   September 23rd, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Mr. King & Michael.....Would you be interested to know there is a
better health care reform plan available than the bills presently being
presented in Congress? No one appears to have a solution; however,
I know of a plan not yet presented that would solve at least 90% of the
present day problems...a solution not yet presented by anyone. If
interested, please e-mail to me....I will appreciate your help. Many thanks. Warmest regards, Sherry

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:21 pm ET

((( MICHAEL MOORE .............................


Smart, Witty and the knowledge to make humorous the tragedies here in the USA

bryan m smith   September 23rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Losing my home next week like so many others.. cost of cobra and my co-pays put me behind in my mortgage..

received a letter from the bank, offering assistance programs, so I called the Capitol Area community Services in Lansing for assistance and was advised that since foreclosure would take place after the June 2nd legislation was passed, I would qualify for the program that would base my home payment on 31% of my current income, (693.00 mo). So I waited for default to occur, only to be told I don't qualify because of a previous loss mitigation during the previous 5 years.

So I have NO choice what so ever.

I've already talked with Melissa Kaltenbach at Sentor Stabenow's office regarding my health care costs causing my financial demise. That and the unemployment, situation here in Michigan also contributes.

I'd Love to phone in.. how an I do this..?

Andre Marentette   September 23rd, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Michael: When are you going to do a documentary on the banking system in the US which is really the culprit of all our problem. When you have the private banks creating over 90% of the annual money supply out of thin air and the government through the Federal Reserve about 10% of it interest free. The federal Reserve is a private corporation owned by twelve private federal reserve banks. WE must do what FDR did to get us out of the great depression. The Public does not know where money comes from. Please discuss this on public television. I hope this would be your next documentary ecause this could change everything. Andre Marentette

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Michael: I certainly hope you go after the hedge funds managers who make................ over 1 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR SALARY

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

All "bets" should be off in the stack market. Just like lobbyists in congress

Jane Schiff   September 23rd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Hi Michael –

I've got 1 question with 2 parts: Given a police – free history of a job applicant, including an FBI check and fingerprints, what do you think about:
1. In this job – needy economy, do you think potential employers should be able to put a potential applicant on the spot by requiring the potential applicant to sign permission for a complete health background inquiry for the unstated purpose of eliminating potential applicants who have legally used their work place health insurance plans in their pasts?
2. Should the above potential employer be able to put a potential applicant on the spot by requiring the applicant to sign permission for credit histories?

connie   September 23rd, 2009 9:28 pm ET

When are you going to do a documentary on our broken immigration system? We need a voice to our stories!!! And for same-sex couples our families are not even included and many of us of being forced to choose between our countries or our loved ones. This is beyond discrimination.

CHM   September 23rd, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Mr. Moore-what should a profitable company do when it has more people than jobs? Should the company pay people to stand around and do nothing? It is the role of company leaders to be successful financially. Have you ever heard of common stock? Perhaps we should think in terms of common people buying common stocks. If a company takes action that improves stock performance, we have all had a chance to own the stock. Let's give a current example. Where was Starbucks stock a few months ago? Did they lay off some people and close some underperforming stores? Oh, shame on Mr. Schultz huh? Yea, right, shame on him for creating an opportunity for the Starbucks common stock to nearly triple. Everyone could benefit from that. Have you ever thought about educating people on what they can do to help themselves instead of continually trying to bash capitalism?
On another favorite subject of yours, how are you doing as a role model for people taking care of themselves physically to keep healthcare costs down? You seem to project everything negative on others and take no responsibility yourself.

OK, now on your point on Social Security..... you want everyone paying 6.5% out of their paycheck every month with no cap? You also want high wage earners to pay another 5% in Federal income tax to fund healthcare. Those by themselves add up to more than 10%. Then there is cap and trade. Do you want to leave Americans with no reason to become educated and leave them with no motivation to try to do better, as it all would be taken by the government.

Karen   September 23rd, 2009 9:28 pm ET


Do you believe that 2 people, ie teachers, who have the same job should be paid equally because of position and not because of ability to teach? Of course, relying solely on the even paid persons to HIRE teachers – without any credit going to someone who can hire qualified persons for the job? That should be worth something – union or not.

I think I really need to understand, how you believe that the inate communicator, hard-working teacher that our children learn from, the one OUR KIDS actually 'GET IT' From should be paid the same as someone who is there teaching, just cuz' "it's a job"..

This is what I don't understand about Unions.. How Can someone who is terrific at what they do and work harder than every else, HOW can that Person not get Rewarded for their effort?

Please, tell me how it will work in your world, where hard workers, brilliance isn't rewarded? Please tell me WHY these people do not deserve more than than the not-so-hard workers? Please!

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Hey Michael

Where do I go to apply for a Hedge Funds Manager??? I would like to make over 1 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN SALARY... Yep, Not MILLION, but BILLION!!!

Judith   September 23rd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Why do you think it's so hard for most americans to "see" what it's so obvious for you???? ..........and for me

Dianne   September 23rd, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Michael, my entire life was spent in the deficit and huge. Let's not pretend this is new.

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Michael! I have completed 11 years in college in California. It was never free; however, you are correct. You could obtain scholarships, part time work at the university, etc.

NO MORE LOBBYISTS!!! They should be illegal

stephanie   September 23rd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

can you tell me why when i went to college on a tra, and then six years later go back again, the interest rates are lower know then back then, and i can rewrite the interest? i thought obama was trying to change the interest rates?

Sharon Higman   September 23rd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

I have been in the banking/mortgage business as a Compliance Officer and also a Federal Regulator for over 25 years.

Mr Moore should know that most large banks have what is called "VIP" lending for the preferred customers. This has been a normal process. VIP also usually will handle "employee" loans too because of the Privacy issues of not haveing loans processed and funding in a regular business office. VIP loans is handled in a seperate department with just a special group of processors, underwriters and funders.

Has he never obtained a loan and with his status received preferred treatment?

In fact Mr. Mizilo's son was head of "VIP" lending for IndyMac Bank (which was an off shoot from Countrywide).

I think he is spreading panic where it is really not a big deal.

Michael from Lees Summit,MO   September 23rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

What happened to all the support of the card check bill that was intended to help workers unionize these employee abusive companies?

Danny Paul Carrone   September 23rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I agree 100 percent....Money and the greed for money is what is hurting us. The system is broken. Corporations should not be seen as individuals. They are not and have more resources than a citizen.

Mary   September 23rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I cannot wait to see the new movie. As the famous quote states, greed wil be the downfall of democracy

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Your movie Capitalism opens in Orange County on October 2. I just can not wait! I am really looking forward to your wit and humor. Sicko was beautifully executed! ... no pun intended!

Terry, TX   September 23rd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Come on Michael Moore.....tell us what your yearly salary long do you think you can play the Bush Bashing and Capitalist Mantra.... running low on money..... no one is going to watch your crappola.... especially after the scandal with the National Endowment of the Arts and Buffy Wicke...... your cover is blown....

Dan Burroughs   September 23rd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I am a retired postal worker and I have Blue Cross Blue Shield for health coverage.Every year my premiums go up 20 to 40 dollars per month and I get less coverage.Members of congress and the senate do NOT pay for health care Why is it nobody will air this info about this

karen dinkins   September 23rd, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I want to ask Michael Moore this question: Is this a crazy idea or not, what if the government had taken the 3. trillion dollar bailout and divided it among every man, woman and child in the US (350 million) and dispersed to us as a bailout so we could pay off our loans to the bank, recovered our pensions, bought new cars, etc. Wouldn't we be better off?

janis altman   September 23rd, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I have a great idea for Michael Moore's next movie. How can I get in touch with him?

Kathy   September 23rd, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I am glad Michael makes these movies, we need to have some one doing it. corruption is rampant in this country.

I will be seeing his new movie .

Frank Hill   September 23rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Michael Moore interview

1. The only difference between Wall Street and Las Vegas is that Las Vegas has glittering lights and floor shows. (Oh, and they also have better security to catch cheaters!)

2. Anyone who wants to understand capitalism, politics and how society works needs to understand human nature – two books – The Lucifer Effect" that explains why good people do bad things and "Mistakes Were Made (but not by me)" which explains why Sen. Dodd and the Ethics Committee can say he did no wrong are worth reading.

Frank Hill

scott   September 23rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

i live in's the same bull...fake money...if your country isn't producing products how can you survive?...people have to learn that nothing is free...we have to work for it

Gretchen   September 23rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Larry,Michael Moore is right.We as a country must understand that we have all been fooled by the belief that this country's principles are based on christanity.If you read the bible it plainly says to be closer to God you must do as he would,feed the hungry,shelter the homeless,visit prisoners,tend to the sick. Yet every time public option health care is brought up everyone screams how much will it cost,the bottom line is this country is based on money and greed which is a sin.We should care about each other as we seem to care about money.

Mart Sherwin   September 23rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Why is Michael Moore wearing a Rutger's University hat? It is my alma mater!

Danny Paul Carrone   September 23rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Yes! Remove the money from politics! Thats the answer!

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET


You know that Truman was also called a socialists, communists by the Pharmaceuticals, the AMA, the insurance companies. That is just mind boggling to me. We are still doing this 65 + years later.

Mary   September 23rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET


Wouldn't we just be better off becoming part of England again. National Health, public pension and everyone has the right to a home if they cannot afford one!

Lisa   September 23rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I see they're already attacking the tax on soda, stuffs poison and adds to healthcare costs. What happened to Mr.Moore's "Food Inc." He did that right? I could be wrong, if so many pardons, It just seems like one of his.

CHM   September 23rd, 2009 9:44 pm ET

You find so much wrong with America. You said recently you wanted to retire in Vancouver. What keeps you from going?

sherry   September 23rd, 2009 9:44 pm ET


Danny Paul Carrone   September 23rd, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Terry, TX, he is an independent film maker. No one pays his salary. He makes his money from the movies he has made.

He does not work for someone to collect a salary.

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

We the people, need lobbyists to protect the average American from large corporate America!

@ Kathy, I completely agree. I only hope that his life is never threatened!!! Someday, someone in power may try that. I hope he protects himself.

David wilson   September 23rd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Speaking of capitalism.I've noticed,when I watched some of pres. Obamas town hall meetings.the majority of the people concerned about reform were mostly employees of insurance companies,they were more concerned with losing their job.I don't agree with thousands of Americans losing their jobs.But where do people get off thinking their job takes precedent over an individuals right to live.As far as I am concerned someones paycheck is not worth anyones life.That's what reform is about,why is this view almost silent in the media?

Bill Moh   September 23rd, 2009 9:46 pm ET

You are the best Michael !!!
A true visionary.
Keep up the good work.
We need you, and more people like you.

judy henderson   September 23rd, 2009 9:47 pm ET


Marina   September 23rd, 2009 9:47 pm ET

How do you feel about universal healthcare for all relative to quality of care?
Why do yu think Canadian Nurses move to the states?

Toronto, Canada

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Rich Johnson   September 23rd, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Roger & Me: History repeats itself.

Terry, TX   September 23rd, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Oh Michael Moore.....Socialist....Oh Yea.....I WANT HIS MONEY DISTRIBUTED.

mesfin Birke   September 23rd, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Thank you Mr. king for inviting Mr Michael moore. it is a bout time that the nation has to reassess itseld as far as the where we are in terms of our progress in the fileds of science, socio-economic level as well as the general society of this nation as a world leader of the capitalism. My observation is that we have wen astride from the true path of capitalism for all. Instead the extreme narrow segment of the population amasses the larger proportion of the wealth. And this comes at the expense of manufacturing migration to the third world hence the true technological know how is no longer in the country.
It is with sense of urgency that Mr. Moore tries to show the naked truth about our United States at this junction.

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:49 pm ET


what I find wrong is Capitalism and how our country has been taken over by large corporate America. I love the USA! I just don't like how congress is being paid off by large corporations. I don't like big business in control of this country at our expense. I don't want to leave a mess of a country and world to my children and grand children.

I care!!! I am passionate.


sherry   September 23rd, 2009 9:50 pm ET


DjMendy   September 23rd, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I would like Mr. King to scrutinize his replies to many questions he asked Michael Moore. I say this to his use of the word socialism. The United States of America is far from nor is any aspect of MIchael Moores views a part of Socialism. I know Larry is in the 1-5% of America's wealth. You cannot expect or demand all of America to be competitive..........Is that why Mr. King uses socialism as an ignorant response to some of Mr. Moore's insight which is RIGHT ON. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you use socialism as an excuse to reveal the truth.......I start to have serious doubts as to Mr. King's ability to support and reveal the truth behind how and why our country is in serious debt.

tonyking FLORIDA   September 23rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I HAVE THE FACTS ON THIS. 561 703 6764

CHM   September 23rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

You posted once that you worked for the government so I assume that is true. Some of us who have spent a lifetime in respectable corporations feel the same way about government as you do about corporations. I don't want the government to leave a mess of a country to your children if you have any.

Matt   September 23rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

He's a LIAR!! He makes up facts and stories and you waste our time having to hear them!!!! Unbelievable!!!

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

@ Michael Moore

ARE YOU TAKING ANY EMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS???? I would love to work for you!

shelly   September 23rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

My husband and i had both had 14 years in at General Motors in Moraine, Ohio,G.M. closed the plant in December 2008. This has been a life altering experience. We not only lost our 50,000 a year jobs, we lost our health care. G.M. has been a part of both our families from past generations. It's devistating. We don't know what to do next. Shame on all the "Fat Cats" of this country. What about the working man and women That puts the blood, sweat and tears into their lively hoods??? This never should have happend!!!

Lisa   September 23rd, 2009 9:53 pm ET

I grew up in Michigan, I recall the 70's, lost my home, Moved to S.Fl so I would'nt freeze to death. Imagine my shock when I relized I was a White Whale, now I know where my aggression florished. It's criminal and I personally would like to see these traitors hanging from the yardarm of the Mayflower. You know who I'm referring to.

teri childers   September 23rd, 2009 9:54 pm ET

my job in municipal government was elimated ... to cobra my health insurance with aetna would cost $25,000! my salary was $35,000 and i covered my family. my point is taxpayers pay for those benefits now. why not chip in for uninsured but government employees should have deductions just like private employees. they are paid more in line with the private sector now as opposed to working a service job. they also have more sick, personal and vacation and life insurance! taxpayers now are paying twice for themselves and for government workers. why couldn't that be changed to lower taxes and state budgets?

anna   September 23rd, 2009 9:54 pm ET


david   September 23rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

i wanted to know if mr moore had seen the ZIETGIEST online movies and what he thought about them. and to please elaborate on his election strategy. waht is the most important thing that the american people need to do right now, waht should they support and give their money and interest to. it is very clear there are divides and are they important to keep and can thier ever really be an union.

Anil K Sharma   September 23rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Why do banks foreclose rather than make deal with customers:

Bank officers have made side deals with group of investors, who are read y to step in take over the property at much lower cost. Take a loss for bank and then get rewarded under hand from those investors.
Know it for a fact.
Anil K Sharma

Marinko Radakovic   September 23rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I want ask Michal Moore when he will make movie In East Europe(Croatia). I am model and actor..

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET


Yes, I am a government employee. I have seen part of our health care privatized and it now costs the clients double the money, the employees are not licensed as we all are, and the private sector has also received huge amounts of tax money.

They are doing a less qualified job
They are costing everyone at least double probably three times the amount
They cheat and lie!

I know, I used to work both the private and government as I was putting myself through the Ph.D. program. I finally quit the private sector because it was ((((( SO UNETHICAL!!!!! )))))

tammy   September 23rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Michael Moore should run for President.

Pat   September 23rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Michael Moore – next topic suggestion...How about genocide? start with Darfur. Human rights and dignity. Wake the world up!

Dianne   September 23rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

@Dodie-California, You as an American have aright to speak out when you believe something is wrong. You donot have to leave the country-your home also when you donot agree. The tea party has not left. I remember when I was in college protesting Vietnam. The supporterswtold us to leqve our home America. They said love America or leave it. We have the right to protest and say what we donot like about our government and call for change just as Conservatists.

s. lane   September 23rd, 2009 9:58 pm ET

what do you think of the cable companies limiting channels on basic TV. remember when watching Television was free

Deb Proctor   September 23rd, 2009 9:58 pm ET


Would you and Larry take on the US probate system? Do you all have any idea of how much money is being stolen annually via attorneys, guardians, executors and personal representatives who have a court sanctioned license to steal? Maryland has a law that abrogates attorneys from any liability for estate plans they draft. It's a piece of cake to have an attorney there draft a will for someone else, naming YOU as personal representative of their estate, or trustee of a trust. Better still, it's then up to the real heirs to pay attorney's fees for BOTH sides to get your inheritance back! Upon death, all assets get transferred into the name of the personal representative of the estate.. so you tell me. WHO BENEFITS UNDER A WILL? Of course, it's the PR's and attorneys who hadn the estates over to them!

Please help us all.. deb

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Anna... that is cute. I agree.. Michael More for President in 2016

Matt   September 23rd, 2009 9:59 pm ET

We are NOT a democracy; ask him why he is saying we are???

Gerald Kreisberg   September 23rd, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I heard Michael Moore about five minutes ago state on your program, "If you earn $110,000, you do not pay a social security tax."

That is incorrect. The law is: "The 2009 contribution rate ...... is 7.65% for employees ..... The rates are broken out as follows:
6.2% (Social Security portion) on earnings UP TO the maximum taxable amount ($106,800 .... 1.45% (Medicare portion) on all earnings."

I'm a big supporter of Michael Moore, but fundamental misstatements such as this greatly diminishes the points he made in his films. It should be corrected very quickly.

There has been a major misstatement given by Michael Moore on your program, with which you concurred.

Marinko Radakovic(from Boston)   September 23rd, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I think no body care what is going with that part of Europe which has potential to be Disney world.

Marco Boston

CHM   September 23rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

DODIE-I have been in healthcare for 40 years. During that time and in various positions, I have worked with government facilities and private. It does not cost double the money but I don't care to debate the facts because many posts here are not factual at all. Everyone can just decide for themselves how factual theirs are. Have a good evening; enough propaganda for one night for me.

Keith   September 23rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

The New-ism Michael . The New-ism!
Also I heard the same statistic back in the 60's in abook called the Rich and Super-Rich. It cited 4% owning 95 % of the wealth of the countery.
The strangle hold continues.

sunbeachbabe   September 23rd, 2009 10:02 pm ET

You have a great show -I'm a believer–keep up the good work

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 10:03 pm ET

@ Dianne

Yes, I too, protested the Vietnam War! I never want to lose the right to speak out. We are from the same generation.

I just like to see balance. Right now we are totally out of balance!!!

We are owned by Corporate America. Does that mean that everyone who works for a corporation is bad? No way! But everyone needs to look at how far we are from homeostasis!!!

Dianne   September 23rd, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Notice how all high tech nations have health care for their citizens. They also have other benefits not awarded to American citizens. Probably those high tech nations have a better life because their governments are not always embroiled in disputes and wars. Their society is more educated than ours. The money is spent on the people of that country and not supporting the wars of others and fighting wars.

anna   September 23rd, 2009 10:07 pm ET

Thanks Dodie from California but i think Michael Moore should run in 2012 not 2016 because i believe we were all fooled by OBAMA i know i was.Michael Moore should run as a Liberal because i never trusted Republicans and now i lost my trust in Democrats trust me both parties are tied to the big corporations.

Janet   September 23rd, 2009 10:08 pm ET

How do we get to ask Michael Moore if he would consider helping to shut down the horrifically cruel puppy mill industry in the U.S. ? i kn ow he could do undercover videos of the horrific cruelty, the poor dogs who spend their lives crammed into a 2×2 cage and end up with the worst deformities...they simply don't care as long as they keep putting out puppies for the pet stores and the ignorant uncaring public who have no idea that the parents of these tiny pups spend their entire lives in a cold / hot barn....never sees a blue sky, never sees the grass, never feels a gentle hand., many are blind, many have broken jaws from the harsh would not believe what goes on in those barns.....this must be stopped....go to the HSUS web site to see some videos of some mills that they have shut down...the unvbelievable cruelty is something that is hard to believe til you see it..I know..I have mill survivors with terrible deformities.....please help me to get in touch with Mr Moore..asap.......thanks !!!

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 10:09 pm ET


I don't even try to say I know it all. I only know what I have personally experienced or seen. I have seen the private contracts. We as employees for the government were outraged at what the private sector facilitated. Does our local government have problems??? Yes!!! Is our board of supervisors wasting money? Yes! That all needs to be addressed. But even with all of that, it was not nearly as bad as the private sector.

Good evening CHM

dual purpose   September 23rd, 2009 10:11 pm ET

i strongly agree with a lot of what michael moore says but also wonder... how much money does he make off the same system he tells everyone is corrupt.. why does itke that much and wealth and power for him to stand up for teh little guy... kinda sounds a bit hypocritical to me... also since capitalism is so corrupt as hes telling us ( face it anyone can spin anything) does that mean his movie is going to be playing for free at every cinema nationwide? if he truly believed in what hes saying shouldnt he go further and be the role model....?

shelly   September 23rd, 2009 10:11 pm ET


Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 10:12 pm ET


I would love to see a 3rd strong party. I thought that was going to happen with Ross Perot! I agree, I do not like either party! OK.. Michael Moore for president! But it will take more than just the president to battle all the corruption in Congress... It will take all of us too.

Jim Crozier   September 23rd, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Dear Larry;
Watching Michael Moore was a treat but his last comment about the fight over socialism versus capitalism was a tad misleading. America's capitalist have long benefited from government largess, the creation of the Federal Reserve bank being just one example. Owned by the largest banks but receiving benefits fron the Treasury, the recent round of bank bail outs are significant examples of corporate social policy! .... and Michael isn't the only one upset about dirivatives. My father (deceased) headed the Office of Financial Superintendent for the Federal Government of Canada. He was dead set against dirivatives feeling they placed to much risk on the entire financial system of the world while profiting just a very few of the elite. That doesn't sound like the eagalitarian ideal that the United States of America's democracy was founded upon.
Jim Crozier

Bonnie   September 23rd, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Hello Mr. King. I am a Canadian but love what Michael Moore teaches us with his movies. Thank you.
My question is, I heard you mention during the interview to-night that some things are Scotialist and others Capitalist.
I always thought that if you had an idea and could put it to work, you would be welcome in the USA because you would be a Capitalist and would be free to capitalize on your product/idea without interferance from the government, as long as it was legal.
Scotialisam isn't a bad word. I think that I pay taxes to our government to help run our country for everyone. And I expect them to provide certain services that can only be run be a governing party. Such as water, roads, police, firemen etc.
And in our case, we may pay a little extra in taxes but we in turn get universal health care which I am thankful for.
Where in your country, the insurance companies, which are Capitalist, run your health care and are allowed to make enormous amounts of money.
Is my thinking right or wrong?
Thank you.

SuzieCanada   September 23rd, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Michael, I've always wanted to say a big THANK YOU for Fahrenheit 911. Brilliant!

Dodie ~ California   September 23rd, 2009 10:19 pm ET

@ Gerald Kreisberg

I understand that Michael Moore stated the percentage for social security was paid up to a maximum of 110,000. After that amount, you do not pay any more.

Dave Bryant   September 23rd, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Laissez-faire capitalism: Right to create wealth, Right to own private property and resources, Right to economic freedom and freedom to compete, Right to limited government intervention. Some individuals in society need to educate themselves to comprehend how capitalism, (the economic system in which individuals own and operate the majority
of businesses that provide goods and services), can cause monopolies & white-collar crime: (the opportunity for bribery, computer crime, insider trading, embezzlement, fraud, and forgery)

Pat   September 23rd, 2009 10:23 pm ET

dual – I have no doubt that he paid for at least his first 2 documentaries out of his own pocket. Corporate world does not fund documentaries because they cant have control over the content not to mention they wouldnt make a profit. And the corporate world is all about the profit.

So if by now he is breaking even, I say kudos! At least he makes movies that inspire thought and conversation.

Bill Moh   September 23rd, 2009 10:34 pm ET

answer to ... judy henderson


Moore has been wearing the Rutgers caps as a tribute to Scarlet Knights grad Ann Sparanese, who started the letter writing campaign to save his first book "Stupid White Men," which criticized President Bush.

Pat   September 23rd, 2009 10:40 pm ET

dual – also, if he let the cinema's run the movie for free, his crew would have to work for free. how else do they get paid? popcorn sales wont cover the cost of renting the camera! get real – the guy is not getting rich off these docs. not hypocritical at all. and at least he is employing people and according to what he said, employing them fairly.
Finger pointing and jumping to conclusions seems to be the only exercise regime some people follow. Shame really because that leads to intolerance. And we could all use a little more tolerance.

karenB   September 23rd, 2009 10:41 pm ET

It's interesting, I saw Janet post below about puppy mills. I completely agree. Puppy Mills/ large scale dog puppy farms really are horrible. These dogs are treated like cattle, seen solely as a product, like cattle is, disposable. The puppies get sold the parents are forces to mate and mate in horrible conditions. Yet, when you look at any changes to legislation, agri business gets paranoid that these rules would end up applying to them. Dog auctions are also horrible things. Take a look at the evidence out there, the videos, the survivors and make your own judgement. Puppy mills are legal due to greed, plain and simple. No one would righfully agree that these things have any value in our society. Look at how much we have commodified dogs. Look at the pet industry in general. Dogs mass produced, with no thought to health, shot once they are no longer useful. Fake dog testicle implants can now be bought so you still get "that same look" for neutered Rover. There is dog nail polish, dog perfume, dog bikinis....look at what we as humans have done to our loving's ridiculous! Take a look Mr Moore at this whole industry, and please start with the puppy mills!

Marlene   September 23rd, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Mr. Moore gave advice to a 15 year old that stated that the credit card companies (banks)would be lined up to give him free credit with no job when he started college. This was true in the past, however, it no longer true. My eighteen year old son who is employed was not able to get a credit card without a cosigner. Credit cards are no longer available to young people under age 21. Without help from parents, it is much more difficult for young people to go to college, buy a car, or get into an apartment.

Susan Eastman   September 23rd, 2009 10:52 pm ET

I am not against capitalism per se, but I believe it MUST be regulated to protect investors and consumers from the greed of a few. It's possible to do well and make a lot of money and yet still care about others and give back – Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, and Michael Moore. So what if Michael is a millionaire? Bill Gates is a billionaire and yet look all the good work he's done for others – he's given back. So has Oprah. There's no shame in having money if you've legitimately and honestly earned it. But the people I admire who have money give back and don't just think of getting even more for themselves.

Jim Carroll   September 23rd, 2009 11:01 pm ET

The answer to Capitalism is Mixturism: The rational economic, ETHICAL,
AND POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY FOR THE 21ST CENTURY AND BEYOND. Businesses, governments, and people working together to meet the needs and desires of all. FIND YOUR FrEE COPY ON THIS WEB SITE.

Kimberly   September 23rd, 2009 11:14 pm ET

Firstly, THANK YOU for your brilliant films!! Michael, would you consider doing a documentry on the ugly world of Puppy Mills? The dogs need you Michael!!

jackie wells   September 23rd, 2009 11:31 pm ET

I have been a huge fan of Mr. Moores.. Whether I agree with him or not, he makes you think and that is good. His next project should be on puppy mills. They are a terrible drain on pet lovers. They invest in this cute puppy and end up spending tons of money on a sick dog. Money that could be spent on many other things in this economy. It would not have to be a big movie, but it would put national attention on the 7 worst offending states. States that allow this to go on and turn a blind eye to abuse, cruelty and pet overpopulation. If he has any doubts about how well received this would be, the 1st show Oprah did on puppy mills was her highest rate show. thank you

Gerald Jolly   September 23rd, 2009 11:44 pm ET

Larry a great show tonight.

As the saying goes


If only the lobbiest could be thrown out of Washington.

If only human beings could find it in their heart to show caring and kindness towards one another.

If only the "MADOFFS" of this world could be identified before they could perpatrate such evil on the rest of society.

If only "GREED" would not prevail over good common sense.

If only everyone rich or poor did not have to die, because they could not afford medical health insurance.

The possibilities of "IF ONLY" are endless, but in the end I am convinced that "GREED" will prevail over all of the "IF ONLY'S" that have ever existed.


Leesa MinPinRescue Montreal   September 23rd, 2009 11:50 pm ET

How do we get to ask Michael Moore if he would consider helping to shut down the horrifically cruel puppy mill industry in the U.S. ? i kn ow he could do it… undercover videos of the horrific cruelty, the poor dogs who spend their lives crammed into a 2×2 cage and end up with the worst deformities…they simply don’t care as long as they keep putting out puppies for the pet stores and Kijiji… the ignorant uncaring public who have no idea that the parents of these tiny pups spend their entire lives in a cold / hot barn….never sees a blue sky, never sees the grass, never feels a gentle hand., many are blind, many have broken jaws from the harsh treatment…you would not believe what goes on in those barns…..this must be stopped….go to the HSUS web site to see some videos of some mills that they have shut down…the unvbelievable cruelty is something that is hard to believe til you see it..I know..I have mill survivors with terrible deformities…..please help me to get in touch with Mr Moore..asap…….thanks !!!

Ron   September 24th, 2009 12:07 am ET


I hugh problem today is our wages.I noticed that the average job pays from $9-$11 per hour.How are you going to feed your family,go on vacations,afford health insurance-if you don't get it at work,save for retierment,pay your kids college,pay your own dept,you can't.To make it worse General Motors lowered there starting pay for new employees to $14 per hour.This is actually better then most jobs today.What happened to the middle class?

william simmons   September 24th, 2009 12:12 am ET

miecheal moore you supported obama who bailed out aig how about now?

Rocky   September 24th, 2009 12:20 am ET

Its very easy to point out problems after the damage is done.
After the fact....

Where was Mr. Moore when these frauds he depicts in his movies actually happening???

Did he point out those before the fact??

Then he could have helped the American people..not at this juncture....when everyone knows what happened....

anna   September 24th, 2009 12:23 am ET

LKL should rotate MICHAEL MOORE and BILL MAHR every night.I enjoy them both.The only ones with the truth.

anil   September 24th, 2009 12:30 am ET

Michael Moore says he against 'Capitalism" but How did he make his his millions. By exploiting and Capitalim.

Desiree   September 24th, 2009 12:31 am ET

As for Mr. Moore's outrage over the lack of social security taxation for wages earned over 110k, this lack of taxation is reasonable given that Social Security benefits are limited; there is a cap on the amount a person may receive (even if they have paid more in). Is Social Security a wealth redistributor or a government run mandatory retirement savings program?

Kristy   September 24th, 2009 12:32 am ET

Thank you for speaking up for us little people, you are a true American Mr Moore. I wish we all could be heard as you are, but most of us don't fit that 110,000 a year mark....Please keep doing what you do, America needs a strong stubborn voice...Thank you! K

Howard R Woods   September 24th, 2009 12:54 am ET

Michael I would love to see you do a film on where did all the jobs go and who made the decisions to send them. How did this help stimulate our economy? I hear this said by so many politicians, CEO, top executives and upper middle class people.

Sydnee Doherty   September 24th, 2009 1:03 am ET

Thank God for patriots like Michael Moore!! He is the only lobby we have!

ayo   September 24th, 2009 1:04 am ET

Micheal please please bring something out about the education system in the states and job loss I loss my job in January because i was told I called a customer Habib, but while working at this place I was call the "N" word and was told a joke about a middle eastern blowing his head off both white guys kept their job but I was fired, was it because I wrote my letter to HR asking questions about why I (an African American Woman) been passed over for jobs position. I contact HR after I was able to resolve these issues at store level. A month later I was terminated

kathy O'Brien   September 24th, 2009 1:06 am ET

Why does the Govenrment allow Medicare contracts with insurance companies to vendor off shore for claims processing, Customre service etc. When these job are needed in our country? Obama has preached against this however it is still going on. Tthese jobs are needed here. I know as I work in the insurance industry. I confidetialiry.

Laura Matters   September 24th, 2009 1:09 am ET

What to do about
coutnrywide and the bankruptcy in the nation? is it better to get it back together or just start over? self insurance is almost impossible . What advise do you have on heath insuance?

Wanda   September 24th, 2009 1:11 am ET

Have you heard anything about the red Communist Chinese flag flying on the East lawn of the White House?
I suscribe to WND news, which is the only format I have heard and seen the photos of the Communist Chinese flag, flying in front of the United States Flag. Never before has theis communist flag been welcome in the United States, much less on the lawn of the White House.
During the same week, terrorist, murderer, butcher, of United States citizens, Momar Gadafi was warmly welcomed by the Obama Presidency, as he castigated our US servicemen and women.
The past two presiential administrations were bad, but the Obama Presidency is shaping up to be the worst one I have witnessed. Giving VISA's to terrorists, to come onto our soil and thumb his nose after murdering many US citizens, this is surreal.
Our Presidency, Congress, and Senate, does not deserve to look into the eye, of any United States Serviceman or woman, or veteran. Treasonous pigs, our House of Representatives are. This President was called a "Son of Kenya" WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE??Hussain Obama you are not fit to be the commander in Chief of the United States. Traitor.

Coral   September 24th, 2009 1:29 am ET

I am a big suppter of your work and wanted to say THANK YOU for giving us a voice. I am from a small town in Ohio and have a few health care scare stories of my own, as do most Americans. Do you ever do signings or is there anyway to meet you? You are one of my heros!!!

Charlie   September 24th, 2009 1:37 am ET

Larry, thanks for having such a brilliant guest who minces no words in his timely critique of capitalism. Michael is absolutely right in saying that what we live in hardly resembles a true democracy.

Rick   September 24th, 2009 1:48 am ET

Do you think its a hopeless battle for the people on strike at Vale-INCO and do you think Vale-INCO wants to break the USWA Local 6500 -Rick Perreault, Sudbury ON, Canada

DONNICE   September 24th, 2009 1:55 am ET

Mr Moore. What do you think about ..the Katrina Storm ,Victim was force to take out a (sba Loan} in order to recived assistance>How do you loose every thing you own! .and push to take a loan ,when "goverment " Know you can"T repay?and That the Stafford Act didn't apply for goverment assistance!. Now "SBA" foreclosing on half the homes in New Orleans! We getting Harrsed phone calls from (sba) about 10 calls a day!! FEMA change the giudelines on elevation.
we still not in our home >>>>>>>> 4 YRS LATER WAITING ON federal home-elevation grant ..

Charlie   September 24th, 2009 1:59 am ET

Carol, Michael Moore spoke unopposed because he was Larry's guest. Larry has the right to invite whoever he wants on his show. He may occasionally invite guests with entirely different views than Michael Moore, but it's his choice and CNN'S. Perhaps you don't share Michael Moore's views, but he is just as entitled to his opinions as anyone else is to theirs.

The capitalist framework provides jobs you say. What kind of jobs? Working at Wallyworld for $9 an hour?

Why does'nt Michael Moore move somewhere else you ask? Because he is an American citizen who has a right to freedom of speech, and if you don't like it why don't you move somewhere else?

Jay McCitterick   September 24th, 2009 3:32 am ET

Michael Moore (mm) is a dolt if he belives that anything but capitalism (unless you can prove he operates at zero profit) would produce mm's films. He is the Madonna of the documentary "notion du jour."

BBLANCHARD   September 24th, 2009 4:14 am ET

First, health care needs no reform, we have the best in the world!! Don't believe me, how many people you know have gone to Europe, Canada, Russia, China... for heart surgery. or brain surgery, etc... Our first mistake is assumeing health care is a right, Americans have become so use to being taken care of, every one is looking for a handout. Life is full of choices, I choose to sacrifice as did many of you, while so many other were off having good times I studied and worked. I did this so I could archive my idea of what if feel is success. If health care is a right, then should we not all be forced to donate a kidney to those with renal failure, after all you only need one and its there right. NO, you have a right to not have someone adversely affect your health purposely. We have no right to free health care. Want health care? Like anything earn it. Now having said that, lets reform our laws, Make companies like, Wal-Mart, Target, etc.. fulfill their social responsibility by at least offering full time jobs to a set percentage of there employees, based on the number of persons they employ. The more employees the higher the percentage of full time jobs "and benefits". Reforming the laws that cause the practice of defensive medical by our doctors. We need people who work in lower paying jobs, not everyone will be a Dr., lawyer, or politician. Thank God !! We and large businesses need and should value these persons in these lower paying jobs, Companies are making millions and we depend on them. There should be laws protecting the workers by forcing companies, "not the American people" to provide insurance to the work force that is making them their millions. This is social justice.

Then lets work from there. HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM IS NEEDED, NOT HEALTH CARE REFORM. Why is there no laws protecting people by forcing large companies to provide insurance to their workers? Politicians, Democrats and Republican are receiving large sums of money for persons whom represent these companies. Corruption through and through, misguided information from both side have divided our Country. We the People need to take it back. Socialism has FAILED in every country. Don't believe me, move to China, or Cuba. Capitalism works when controlled through properly throughout law. Fails in the face of cooption. Good people must standup to this coruption and greed for power before we are all slave to a Government just like in China and Cuba. "A government big enough to give your everything you need is big enough to take everything you have" – Goggle it. See who said this. Don't be fooled by the twisted info presented to you. We must consider the long term consequences not the short term payoff for the here and now. Stand up America. Stand up. Don't believe or feed into the stupidity of being followers of corupt politicians, We need to stop freeloading off the Government–"Tax Payers". Take responsibility for our own lives and demand other take responsibility for their own lives and stop the freeloading.


Yvonne E.   September 24th, 2009 4:20 am ET

Why are people these days so afraid of the truth?These people need to get over it. Micheal is just putting the truth out there; that so many people tried so hard to hide it from us. { why did Larry keep cutting him off..} Wasn't everyone taught not to lie when you're growing up? So what, once you get older you need to lie to make someone feel better or to make acouple bucks? I for one am glad someone has the balls to stand up for what is right. People are more blind then they have ever been and someone needs to show them the path. People need to start standing up for what they beleive in and stop being soo scared.

Steve   September 24th, 2009 4:57 am ET

To say that Capitalism is a failed system, at least, in its current form in the US is an understatement. I can't understand anyone who does not see this as immediately evident. If you don't, you aren't paying attention or lack the education to understand what is going on around you. Let me try to lay out some points...

1) The US form of free market Capitalism does not scale globally. We are already seeing that a consumption based economy will suck the globe dry of natural resources if implemented by everyone. How can you claim a successful system when 5% of the global populous consumes 25% of its resources on a yearly basis? Simple math should tell you that is a bad system.

2) Capitalism concentrates wealth in the hands of a very few people. Google "wealth gap United States" and look at how the buying power of the median citizen has dropped like a rock over the last 30 years.

3) Capitalism promotes stagnation (not innovation). As companies get larger, they are discouraged from releasing innovations to the general public. As an example, do you think it is good business sense for a chip manufacturer to release its fastest chip to the market? If they do, they put extreme pressure on R&D to come up with something faster. When quarterly profits are the driving force of a company, there is no way they would do this and risk not being able to obtain the next breakthrough. Therefore they purposely withhold innovation and release it incrementally.

4) Allowing corporations to grow exceedingly large stifles competition. It affords them the power to either purchase a potential competitor outright, engage in patent warfare, or leverage wealth to pass legislation in their favor.

5) Capitalists realize that cooperation is easier than competition. In the event that there are several large corporations in a given market space, they come to the realization it is much easier to fix prices and fleece the consumer than it is to compete against each other.

I could go on and on...please people read your History and pay attention to current events.

Vicente Cueto   September 24th, 2009 5:15 am ET

Capitalism might not be the answer, but if you really wanna see people with the lose of hope for life, just go to Eastern Europe's ex-soviet republics and talk to old people that lived their whole lives under a "ruling of the people". Lack of joy for life, depressive attitudes, lack of wish to improve...socialism-comunism is also something unrealistic. Suggestion to Michael Moore. dare to do a sotry about baltic states past and future and the complex relatiinship with Mother Russia. Worth the shot if you want to understand World Politics and how USA is seeing here in this part of the World.

Vicente Cueto   September 24th, 2009 5:26 am ET

The only persons that want a turn to the left are the persons that have never lived under Socialist or Communists regimes. Ask ex-soviet people how far you should go to the opposite direction to Capitalism. It might not be the best system, but the counterpart isn't ideal, and sometimes a complete nightmare.

bipbip   September 24th, 2009 5:35 am ET

As a french guy, i watch Michael Moore as an European guy.
But why fighting against a system who's not prepare for this ?

Vicente Cueto   September 24th, 2009 5:54 am ET

There was maybe 20 years ago an economist that predicted the substitution of Nations and States for Kingdoms like in Medieval times, except that these new kingdoms would be formed not around a king but around the CEO's of Overseas Corporations and Enterprises that would accumulate more richness than many small states (like Central Americans). Then, according to this, instead of singing the National Anthem, we would be singing the Anthem of Wal-Mart, Ford or Mitsubishi, according too where we were born. We would also belong again to a Landlord from birth to death. Would that be possible?

Jo   September 24th, 2009 6:02 am ET

fantastic job Michael...once you have raised all the domestic issues in America, i challenge you to explore the core issues such as war in the middle-east, or climate change, the truth behind the land reform in zimbabwe. cheers

Tim   September 24th, 2009 7:35 am ET

People want answers to the problems facing this country and rightfully so. Fortunately, there are some very smart people with some very good ideas in Congress. Unfortunately, the bright people with the not so great ideas, and the not bright people with really awful idea's are the one's running the country. So where does that leave the rest of us, up the creek without a paddle. It seems to me that what the country needs to continue being the superpower that we are is very basic when you get right down to it:

1. Leaders elected by the people, and not the Electoral College.

2. Our political leaders need to re-learn, learn, or remember that they are elected by the people, and must therefore serve all the people and not just the ones paying for their re-elections.

3. A government that acknowledges that all people are intrinsically equal, but not that everyone is going live up to their potential. Basically stop forcing equality on everyone, the playing field can't and shouldn't be leveled by the government.

4. Government must set laws that are fair, and punishments that are just. It shouldn't however dictate, or teach morality. That is the responsibility of the parents, and church.

5. Stop regulating the economy. If a business fails, let it fail. The bailouts are nice, but ultimately we are rewarding bad behavior. Worse we are encouraging a system of government that makes business dependent on the government, and allows the government to step in and tell a business how to run, who should run it, and what they should be producing.

6. The powers of the government and the President must be held in check. This was the reason for checks and balances, so that no one person or branch of the government gained unilateral decision making authority. This is a principle that we are giving away right now on a silver platter. I am shocked at the powers our current President has gathered to himself without anyone saying hold on a second. Take for instance that since taking office he has fired CEO's, forced restructuring of privately owned businesses, discouraged a seated governor from running for re-election, and is presently attempting to gain unprecedented and un-Constitutional powers with his healthcare reform bill. Of course there is also the cyber security Bill S. 773, which would give the President the power to disconnect private-sector owned computers from the internet, and require that all IT workers be federally licensed.

All of which brings me to the topic of this blog; Michael Moore, who claims Capitalism and the free market failed, and as a result businesses ran to the government for a bailout. I would argue that Capitalism worked exactly how it was supposed to, but our burgeoning Socialist state refused to allow weak and underperforming businesses to die, or be absorbed by other companies, because as the liberal Democratic party tends to do they think everyone should get an equal slice of the pie, including individuals and businesses that don’t work for it, or more to the point deserve it. Please forgive my brief soapbox here, but liberal hand-holding encourages timeouts to spankings, re-education instead of punishment, and taking from those who worked hard for what they have and giving it to people too lazy to work for it themselves. It seems to me that while Michael Moore does a fine job of criticizing the system, he has gotten quite fat off it himself, got to love that liberal hypocrisy.

If the vast majority of the people in this country want to be led around like sheep, that's on them. I hope though, that enough people are unwilling to be mindless sheep that we can stand-up and say enough is enough. This country was founded on the principles of personal freedom, and responsibility. I pray that by the time the next election comes around that there is a candidate who understands what the founding fathers wanted for our nation: a government of the people, by the people, and for the people (apologies if misquoted). Not special interest groups and smooth talking politicians.

One final thought, keep in mind as we hand over our civil liberties, our hard earned money, and right to think for ourselves that we are doing so willingly.

God bless America, and goodnight!

John Timms   September 24th, 2009 7:40 am ET

Larry King and Michael Moore appear to believe that greed is a part of the dark side of "human nature".
There is no universal and uniform human nature. There are human types.
If you get the characteristics of greed, obsession and opportunism in one person, you have a possible billionaire or megalomaniac.
The rest of us (99%?) suffer the consequences.

Christopher Harker   September 24th, 2009 7:46 am ET

The question of antisemitism has been on my mind since Larry's recent outburst against a guest because he did not get angry about alleged racism. I always regarded antisemitism with abhorrence until some Jewish spokesman stated (apparently with considerable support) that being anti Israel was antisemitic. That in my view changed the whole concept. Far more influential people than I accuse Israel of war crimes – we all saw the white phosphorous etc. etc. – and if being anti Israel is antisemitic then it becomes not only acceptable but almost a prerequisite amongst civilized people who abhor Israeli barbarism just as they do Nazi barbarism. My advice to the Jews is; don't link being pro Israel to to the antisemitic cause. You will lose far more support than you will gain.

Bblanchard   September 24th, 2009 7:51 am ET

First, health care needs no reform, we have the best in the world!! Don't believe me, how many people you know have gone to Europe, Canada, Russia, China... for heart surgery. or brain surgery, etc... Our first mistake is assumeing health care is a right, Americans have become so use to being taken care of, every one is looking for a handout. Life is full of choices, I choose to sacrifice as did many of you, while so many other were off having good times I studied and worked. I did this so I could archive my idea of what if feel is success. If health care is a right, then should we not all be forced to donate a kidney to those with renal failure, after all you only need one and its there right. NO, you have a right to not have someone adversely affect your health purposely. We have no right to free health care. Want health care? Like anything earn it. Now having said that, lets reform our laws, Make companies like, Wal-Mart, Target, etc.. fulfill their social responsibility by at least offering full time jobs to a set percentage of there employees, based on the number of persons they employ. The more employees the higher the percentage of full time jobs "and benefits". Reforming the laws that cause the practice of defensive medical by our doctors. We need people who work in lower paying jobs, not everyone will be a Dr., lawyer, or politician. Thank God !! We and large businesses need and should value these persons in these lower paying jobs, Companies are making millions and we depend on them. There should be laws protecting the workers by forcing companies, "not the American people" to provide insurance to the work force that is making them their millions. This is social justice.
Then lets work from there. HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM IS NEEDED, NOT HEALTH CARE REFORM. Why is there no laws protecting people by forcing large companies to provide insurance to their workers? Politicians, Democrats and Republican are receiving large sums of money for persons whom represent these companies. Corruption through and through, misguided information from both side have divided our Country. We the People need to take it back. Socialism has FAILED in every country. Don't believe me, move to China, or Cuba. Capitalism works when controlled through properly throughout law. Fails in the face of cooption. Good people must standup to this coruption and greed for power before we are all slave to a Government just like in China and Cuba. "A government big enough to give your everything you need is big enough to take everything you have" – Goggle it. See who said this. Don't be fooled by the twisted info presented to you. We must consider the long term consequences not the short term payoff for the here and now. Stand up America. Stand up. Don't believe or feed into the stupidity of being followers of corupt politicians, We need to stop freeloading off the Government–"Tax Payers". Take responsibility for our own lives and demand other take responsibility for their own lives and stop the freeloading. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. NOW THAT IS A CHANGE !!!

Irene, TX   September 24th, 2009 8:28 am ET

Thank you, Larry! Thank you, Michael!

Venu Pillai   September 24th, 2009 8:45 am ET

Michael Moore is right in denouncing the forced bail-out of entities like GM, etc. However, reading the transcript, I noticed he has not made the effort to show how the failure of specific players in the economy translates to the failure of a free-market. In fact, it is government intervention in the form of the bail-out that keeps such fiscally irresponsible entities from failing. A free-market cannot ensure that one – be you an individual or organization – will not splurge or be fiscally irresponsible. But if the free market is let alone – meaning an external entity such as Uncle Sam does not step in to wield the stick – such an entity will come to ruin. Interventionism kept the free-market from operating unhindered. Interventionism also meant the government infringed upon the Constitution-defined liberty of those Americans not supportive of the bail-out. If Barack Obama and Jennifer Granholm and company believed that it was not part of the American system of values to let such an entity fail, why did they not set up a fund for willing Americans to contribute to? Why did they have to use their monopoly of force to get those Americans not supportive of the bail-out to part with their wealth? Interventionism in its various forms is precisely what has caused a free-market to operate in this country for decades, and that is the root of the problem. A truly free-market is a system wherein producers and consumers mutually agree on a fair-price based on free access to information. It is simply illogical to conclude that prosperity all around to those willing to contribute their skills and services is not possible in a free-market; in fact it is only a truly free market that can ensure prosperity in a way that is fair. But a free market system cannot operate unhindered in what is merely a democracy, without it being something more – a republic that is run strictly along the lines defined by the Constitution. The job of an elected Constitutional government in a republic such as America was intended to be by its founding fathers, is to ensure no individual or group steps on the toes of another in the pursuit of its ideas of prosperity and happiness. It certainly does not include stepping into the market to cater to special interests of any shape or hue; nor does it include running socialist-style entitlement programs such as Social Security or Medicare.
As far as Moore's other concern regarding wealth rising from the bottom sections of society to the top goes, he needs to take a hard look at how the fiat-currency system operated by the Federal Reserve ensures just that.
The failure we see in America today, Mr. Moore, is not the failure of capitalistic free-market enterprise – simply because it is not allowed to operate in America – but rather the doing of thugs and robber barons ruling the land wearing the disguise of elected politicians and their unelected bureaucratic servants. That's right – the government of this country is the collection of the savviest crooks in the land, walking around with the legitimacy granted them by the people through the medium of elections. They along with the talking heads on TV, repeating that America is a free-market economy does not either imply or ensure that the market is indeed free, or stays that way.

John Timms   September 24th, 2009 8:49 am ET

Of the 99% who become neither billionaires nor dictators, let´s say that 90% suffer the consequences of the success of the1% who do and that 9% (the more or less comfortable middle classes) both suffer and enjoy them, the suffering being due to a dull awareness that all sorts of nasty things (bombs, toxic waste, starvation, torture, child labour) are somehow serving their interests.

Carol Johnston   September 24th, 2009 9:13 am ET

I would like to re-iterate the request for Michael Moore to take on the puppymills. We have several puppymill rescues that we have either adopted or are fostering, and the horrendous cruelty that these dogs have endured is something that needs to be made public. I am sure that if more people were aware of the plight of these dogs, the industry would have to be shut down.

Thanks, Larry.

Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 9:23 am ET

Rick I'm from Sudbury, my uncle was one of the original organizers of the USWA in 1948 when a Union was necessary to intervene on behalf of the workers that were being pitifull wages while INCO was reaping in Billions, but what actually happened within a relatively short time, is that the Union became so powerful and the demands for higher and higher pay escalated to an average of $17.00 dollars an hour with the benifits equaling almost that same amount (ie) each man hour costing $33.00 which eventually led to Inco and Falconbridge operating in the "RED" ever since that time.

As I'm sure you know Falconbridge is only a shadow of what it once was, and Inco is heading in the same direction.

"GREED MY FRIEND" it works from both sides of the table.


Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 9:35 am ET


You must stop smoking that funny smelling stuff, and that white powder is causing you to halucinate.

Did you know that Moa Tse Tung was Obamas GOD FATHER?

Did you know that Obama and Hugo Chavez play cards every friday night.?

Did you know that Fidel Castro and Obama go fishing in the gulf at least once a month.?

Did you know that Ahmenijad and Obama are realy first cousins?

Did you know that Osama Bin Laden married Obamas fictional sister.

Did you know that you are in great need of "PHSYCHIATRIC HELP"

It is said that every once in a while we meet or hear of people that are so fixated on fantasy that they believe the "STUPID AND IDIOTIC RANTS" they spew.


Alfredo Romero   September 24th, 2009 9:39 am ET

Michael Moore is blind and incredibly bias in his opinions.

Capitalism did not fail.
The people who ran it did.

Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 9:46 am ET

Hey! Folks Micheal Moore is a wonderfull individual who has brought a number of great issues for the American people to see and evaluate.

But in all fairness to Mr. Moore, "HE IS NOT GOD"

Some of you have asked him to make films on a great number of issues, but have you any idea the numbers of weeks, months and years it takes to produce the work he does??

The one thing anyone can say about his films and the man himself is,
You will get the truth, no matter how painfull it may be.

Every patriotic American should get on his bandwagon and support his one initiative though.

As long as "LOBBIEST" are allowed to operate withing our government, there will never be a government "BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE"


Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 9:51 am ET

A message for CAROL.

Get off the drugs, get back to reality.

This is America, where anyone has the right to express them selves in any way they want.

In film, In the Press, and even on BLOGS which is the way you are expressing yourself.

But you should not do so when you are influenced by a drug induced state of mind "WHICH YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCING"

Mary G. from Michigan   September 24th, 2009 10:05 am ET

Michael keep exposing the BIG FAT RATS for what they really are ...
Also CHM .. have you ever seen any of Michael's work? If you have my apologies but seriuosly were you not moved or touched at all after watching Sicko ??? The documentary and the Americans and ESPECIALLY THE AMERICAN HEROES that were helped by Michael did more to convince us that this America

Mary G. from Michigan   September 24th, 2009 10:09 am ET




SLM   September 24th, 2009 10:27 am ET

Oh Great another Michael Moore Fairy tale coming out. If he is so concerned that nobody should make a profit..........he is welcome to donate 100% of the proceeds to the causes he believes in.

Gerald Kreisberg   September 24th, 2009 10:43 am ET

To the comment that $30 an hour is greed on the part of workers employed USWA, do you realize this amounts to $30,000 a years. In today's world, that's greed? A corporation that is showing a profit of billions as, say, U.S. Steel should be able to pay a living wage.
That the corporations you have spoken of that cannot compete, say, with Japanese steel producer is due to the fact that Japanese steel producers DO NOT pay for health care from their operating capital. Health care, as with the rest of the western Democracies, is provided through a Single Payer system, supported by a graduated tax spread through the whole population. Health care should not be a for profit business.. Stop listening to rabble rousing lies such as Death Panels and lies that single payer or government option will not let one pick their own physician. We have a single payer system in the USA since the 1960s called Medicare. Under Medicare everyone makes their own physician choice.

Enough   September 24th, 2009 10:56 am ET

These movies are FICTION – Anyone who takes them as fact is very misguided.

Steve   September 24th, 2009 11:08 am ET

@SLM A Fairy Tale? You can bury your head in the sand if you want, but Capitalism has proven itself a complete and utter failure. Please pick up a book and educate yourself.

Michael Smith   September 24th, 2009 11:17 am ET

Michael Moore is so full of himself, capitalism hasn't died it's still flourishing. GM could and should have died. Competition by other auto makers would have provided a sufficient number of autos to a buying market. Who saved GM? Michael Moore's buddies otherwise know as the democratic party. The same party that has been trying to march this country into socialism, for how long? About the same 20 years that Moore talkes about. Is Michael Moore putting his movie into the theaters and allowing everyone to view it in it's entirety free, has or will he make money off this film? If the answer is yes then capitalism continues to work and he's reaping the benefits and he's a hipocrite.

Rose   September 24th, 2009 11:34 am ET

Michael Moore is not opposed to profit. He is opposed to the corrupt and abusive way that profit is made. There are fair and unfair practices. There's a big difference. General Motors is a great example. Michael predicted it's downfall in "Roger and Me" due to it's greedy practices of profit at any inhumane cost – and he was right.

Thank you Michael for your efforts by speaking up!

Beatrice   September 24th, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Americans don't know (don't remember?) why they left Europe several centuries ago (the ones who came from there). It was a place (back then, not anymore) where if you were born in a lower class there was no way you could get out of it. The upper class made sure of that. Because of this Europeans came to America to create a new society where such a thing would never exist. What happened since then? Why is it difficult for the average American to get an affordable health insurance, or send his children to college? Why does it seems that the American dream is out of reach for a lot of people? I think Michael Moore is right. If we are not careful things will turn back to the way they were back then in Europe, were getting to the top was only available for some. In the long run it proved to be destructive because this system cuts off the creativity of a country. Anyway there is hope, Obama was elected. It proves that someone coming from an average American Family can become President. But he is struggling himself to make sure that the American Dream is still alive. So let's be aware and not fooled by an illusion of freedom.

Steve   September 24th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

@Bblanchard. "We have the best health care in the World?" You are joking right? You've seen the reports haven't ya...we are like 35th in the World and pay the most by far. Many of us have gone to other countries for surgeries. You can do it for a fraction of the cost and if you got to India for example, you have 1 RN per patient. We aren't even close to that level here.

Rose   September 24th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

We should remember that it was this issue of money and credit that lead to the American Revolution. Britain created the Currency Act of 1764 which prohibitied American colonies from issuing paper currency in any form. To make a long story short, British merchants issued credit sales to the colonies but the severe British financial crisis at that time caused them to call in their debts.

The credit crisis of 1772 caused the bankruptcy rate to double. Property values in New York fell. Benjamin Franklin testified to the British Board of Trade about the benefits of using American created Colonial Scrip currency. The American colonies rejected British economics where Government borrowed from private banks at interest. The British immediately passed laws forbidding the payment of taxes in Colonial Scrip by Americans. This caused much hardship to Americans and brought on the American Revolution and independence in 1776.

Financial abuse/imposition from those in positions of influence against those struggling can lead to drastic actions, as in the case of our own history.

John Timms (Spain)   September 24th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Why is the human race in such a mess and why has it always and in all places been in a mess?
We should start taking differential psychology very seriously and undertake profound studies into the psychopathology of wealth and power.
What if most of the 1% who own and run the world are nutters? It´s certainly worth thinking about.

Luis   September 24th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

I'm proud to be an American but said about what our country has become. We have gone from being the envy of the world what evey country wants to be to a shame. What has happened to our moral values? What was and is good about capialism has been taken over by greed! While I believe there are many more good people out there we've quieted our voices and have let the greedy, immoral take over. People have no shame anymore.

Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 4:05 pm ET

To all of you that critisize Micheal Moore for making money from his films.

When you wish to comment on such an issue, it is important to watch the entire program.

For those "IDIOTS" who missed that question asked by Larry King, about how much profit Micheal Moore made from his films, this was his answer.

My staff of more than 33 full time employees, and the same amount that work for my company on a as required basis, we pay their "MEDICAL INSURANCE BENEFITS" that is not taxable.
My wife and I donate to a number of causes regarding the environment, health care issues, providing housing in Michigan for folks that have not been helped by the system, rebuilding and re-stocking of the library in the town we live in,and I insist that all my employees are paid better than any other company that is involved in a similar venture.

I do hope that all of you that wish to knock Micheal Moore, will quit using those halucinary illegal drugs that cause you to spew utter nonsense.

I rest my case.


Gerald Jolly   September 24th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

Lori Justice for Micheal.


Rose   September 24th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

The human race always struggled for resources. This usually took the form of brute force. Anything and everything was done to maintain power and control in the hands of a few. The few established political systems to oppress mainly agrarian workers in some form of feudalism or slavery. Armies conquered to gain more resources. Then it was colonialism and imperialism over developing nations. The ones with oil were most abused. The industrial revolution created an entire class of exploited and poor factory workers.

Now power is in the hands of expensively suited individuals in towering offices. Through creating abusive and self serving systems, these individuals took advantage of capitalist opportunities and set up an unfair power and wealth distribution systems. Deregulation, lack of checks and balances, taxation, the list goes on and on with the disenfranchised having no real voice.

As the 1% who own the world's wealth continue to aggressively promote their system, their blatant lack of concern for human well being confirms they are indeed insane. It's too bad that anyone who questions this so-called system is labelled socialist etc by people who themselves do not realize how disenfranchised they have truly become. Being American isn't just about free enterprise, it's about being responsible as well.

susan zimmer   September 24th, 2009 5:25 pm ET

Please help us shed further light on puppies mills which are horrific. It helpless animals can be treated with this much cruelty, it is a sign of our further degredation as a society. Please do a show on puppy mills!!!

Judy   September 24th, 2009 7:14 pm ET

I am happy for him and all his 33 workers but he is still making money here and I am sure he wouldn't be able to do that in any of the third world countries. I do agree that greed has become rampant in the larger companies and have to be kept in balance. We should have never bailed them out. This country needs to get back to the people who have made this country great.

Kristy Sinsara   September 25th, 2009 1:47 am ET

Re: Michael Moore. I've always been a fan of his but this time I think (maybe for the first time) he has gotten it wrong. Mr. Moore, the majority of Americans do NOT agree with President Obama's healthcare plan. Do we need change? Absolutely. Should it look like Obama's plan? NOPE! No thanks!

Perhaps if you're going to attempt to also be such a political player you should be more aware of the true voice of Americans. You got it all wrong this time.


John Timms (Spain)   September 25th, 2009 4:24 am ET

Rose gives us a neat summary of the history of grabbing.
She says: "Armies conquered to gain more resources".
Armies (soldiers) never receive much in the way of capital gains (increased resources).
If the main problem throughout history has been the scrabbling for wealth and power by a very small but ever-present minority of megalomaniacs, then perhaps we should do something about it.
Much easier to "castrate" a few potential billionaires and dictators each generation than to even think we need to change all humanity.
The result could be the disappearance of obscene wealth and the spreading throughout the world of solidarity, justice and dignity.

John Timms (Spain)   September 25th, 2009 5:28 am ET

It irritates me to hear "great men" talking about looking after the "little people". Some of the best people I have known have been poor, but by no means little.

John Timms (Spain)   September 25th, 2009 5:49 am ET

The poor do not need wealth to make them feel valid. I mean the survivably poor, not the hopelessly poor; though even amidst hopeless squalor I have seen the most incredible smiles.
What would a rich man have to offer the world if he suddenly became poor? A shabby air of self-importance?

Rose   September 25th, 2009 10:01 am ET

John Timms – good points. The issue isn't getting rid of a few men at the top, it's the system. Men will be replaced by other similar men. When corporations made billions of dollars and they pay foreign workers in sweat shops pennies per day in order to keep their profits and stock prices up – something is quite wrong. The same applies to companies who move manufacturing abroad causing hardship and job loss to citizens at home. Again for further profit.

Michael Moore is correct. The system is corrupt. Corporations (that are legally "persons") are selfish and greedy. Free enterprise along with fairness, not exploitation, is needed. Executives who are compensated obscene amounts in bonuses and causing company failures should not be rewarded – for starters.

John Timms (Spain)   September 25th, 2009 1:02 pm ET

Sorry Rose. It´s the system you say. But who invented, imposed and benefitted from all the exploitative "systems" that have defined the shame of human history? A few nutters. All the time and everywhere. Let´s put it to music.
The nutters are not "typical" human beings among whom you and I could easily belong. They are very special, not necessarily very intelligent, but extremely cunning. Think of the mafia, plus Harvard, plus enormous amounts of ill-acquired wealth, plus an insatiable desire to see that wealth increase, plus an unshakeable belief that it is all in accordance with the will of God.
Who, while enjoying absurd affluence, can co-exist with and exploit the starving? You have to be special.

Rose   September 25th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

The inventors of the initial systems died off decades ago. They have been replaced by similar people who added to the existing corruption, creating yet more methods to continue their greed. Our latest financial crisis is an example of their manoeuvre. The next generation of the same "special" people will come right up and take over and continue the cycle. Meanwhile the gap between rich and poor is widening drastically.

Bruno From Swizterland   September 25th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

I watched only part of your interview with Michel Moore. Could you please repeat it on next Sunday 27th September here in Switzerland?
I tell you: I dont want to hear to this Boring Bill Clinton and I am fed up listing about Michel Jackson's death. Let's move on and Michel Moore is the most original stuff that we have in America today. He is fat but he is good. Bruno

Dianne   September 25th, 2009 5:32 pm ET

I learned from Michael Moore that once a person's salary reaches $108,600 a year they donot pay anymore social security taxes for the year. How unfair. Once a person dies before onbe can collect security, it goes into the pot. These people get to keep more of their money. The average American has less disposible income than these people but continue to pay. When do we get a break. George Bush Sr. took away our deduction for interest on credit cards ( at the interest rate now would really help average Americans) and interest on car loans. How did this hurt the well-to-do? These people have other major deductions that working people donot have such as deductions on their 13 different houses for interest and taxes. Most Americans have one house or no house or have lost their house.

Jennifer Valle   September 25th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Michael Moore seems to be a guy who reaches out to get real reactions and answers for the american people. I wondered if he has faced the Indian Casinos with their money making scams? Especially in these times people get desperate and can become addicted to gambling. I live in California near six or more casinos and I had to Ban myself from them to stop myself. I wonder how many people know they can do this? More people need to Ban themselves and cut off the casinos from ruining their lives. The process to do this: go to the security desk and request to self ban from the casino. And if that doesn't work go to the gaming commission to take care of it. What happens is that once you sign the ban, you will be escorted off site and told if you are caught on property again you will be arrested for treaspassing. Better than losing your income to them and losing yourself, family and all you own. It's not worth it. I am a single mom, 35 yrs old with 15 yr. old daughter. Its not easy to do this, but once you do you lift a huge burden off yourself. Couldn't we ban ourselves from the Stock Market?

JIM CARROLL INTERNETFREEPRESS.COM   September 25th, 2009 8:52 pm ET









eve   September 25th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

You're career is boffo and you're prospering....
Can I borrow a bit of money. I am in school attempting to be employable, and I have health problems that make it twice as hard for me to do well since I have such low energy.
You know the deal, no insuance cuz I can't work in order to get health's a crazy trap!!
Thought I'd ask.

g   September 26th, 2009 11:00 am ET

his movies have been right on target but it takes 5 yrs for americans to realize he was right because of corperate propaganda

Dodie ~ California   September 26th, 2009 9:05 pm ET

@ g

Not all Americans!!! I have seen this problem coming for a long time.

Dodie ~ California   September 26th, 2009 9:06 pm ET

Ah yes, you are describing derivatives!! A bet, on a bet with insurance taken out... and if all fails... you ask the government and tax payers for a bail out!!!!

Russ Davis   September 26th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Larry please ask michael about the top percent after a percentile not paying any taxes ie over something like 120K no xtra tax for the wealthy

Russ Davis   September 26th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Please,, Please,, Please ask Michael moore to comment on the rich having a ceiling on taxes, this is a subject that too many people don't know about and its an outrage!!!!. Fair is Fair, the rich need to pay their upper share, i pesonally am at a level sometimes near that top figure and I don't paying, but just think if we played with the same rules, would you mind, I don't people in that ++++ range need to BELLY UP, ITS ONLY FAIR
PLEASE SHARE THIS THOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul and Juana   September 26th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

My wife and I are going to see your movie . I am glad that you made movies to help the plight of working and not working individuals during these tough times.

I am glad some one , anyone in the media has been successful in making people aware of our corrupted politicians and how they actually represent our so called democratic systems failures to keep good jobs in the U.S. so we can provide for our families.

One question. How should we change our political system of the Federal govt to better keep good jobs here in the U.S? and keep politicians be less one sided towards the wealthy.

My wife is a registered nurse and knows how her job has become more difficult to provide good care for her patients. Your movie sicko was a very good reality check and maybe will finally pushed the politicians to do something about health care.

Dodie ~ California   September 26th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

@ Russ Davis

I understand the payment for social security benefits caps off at 120K not income tax. That is why they have so many shelters

Felix   September 26th, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Larry, I would like to thank Mr. Moore on his great work exploiting curruption on Wall Street. When are you (Michael Moore) going to film a documentary on the true root of the financial crisis... "The Federal Reserve," which is not federal, nor does it have any reserves? The FED is a cartel that controls every financial decision of the country and the world.


Komla   September 26th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

One frequently overlooked process embeded in our system of capitalism is the COLA. The effect of the COLA is to rachet up the endless round of cost increases. Measures, such as the cpi are used to keep up with expected inflation. Because everyone uses it, we get to the point where you want to ask which is the chicken and which is the egg. Our expectations of inflation makes us raise our costs and prices which causes others to increase their costs and prices. In the end, prices and costs increase to the point where efficiency begins to suffer. Capitalism hits a wall and begins to stall. Then begins the downward spiral of job cuts, inventory write-downs, reduced new orders, housing slowdowns, and a reckoning with history. Michael Moore has nailed it but are we listening?

Tonya - Florida   September 26th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Instead of giving Wallstreet a Bailout...
Why don't they give Each Household a Bailout & Stimulus Plan
in One...
Give each household $10-15,000...
The money can be used in different ways

1.) We can use the money to pay off debts therefore the Banks get money and we get credit for paying back money borrowed...
This also creates a bailout for the banks they get that we are having to pay for anyway, So we should get credit for giving them the money !

2.) Some houselholds will choose to go shopping and purchase items
needed... This will help stimulate the economy!

3.) Some families will need this money to survive and stay out of forclosure while looking for another job that they have lost!

Otherwise we are giving the Banks / Wallstreet money.
So they get their money...

The American Families are paying for this and we are still in debt
to these same Banks that we are already bailing out,
Were giving them Money and They are charging
us Very High Interest, Late Fees, OverLimit fees...


You get the idea...

Thanks for your time

Shellie Leaonard   September 26th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

1. It appears that Obama is stating that he will eliminate as much Government financial waste as possible, and there are likely billions of dollars to be saved from waste – that is how he won't add to the deficit – is this not possible? Why expect trillions of dollars in future taxes etc. Watch SICKO!! Canada, France, England....all have universal healthcare and it's brilliant! It's the drug and insurance companies that don't want you to have it!

2. Why couldn't the banks, and/or the Government have stepped in and say "Whoa!, everybody pays 5% across the board for their respective mortgages until we rewrite these loans so customers can pay them reasonably and the 5% stays until we can stabilize the economy" – rather than do a bailout, and allow borrowers to keep their homes...?

Dodie ~ California   September 26th, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Thank you Michael Moore!!! I love your ability to mix humor with the seriousness of the topic you choose.

I am so happy there is at least one person in the USA that has the ability and willingness to put in a movie, today's experience and problems.

Again, Thank you!!!

From just an Average American

Pat   September 26th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

As a Federal employee of 21 years, I had worked my way up to a position I loved. I always felt the lower salary was well worth the stability and security of a Federal position. That all changed on 3/28/08 when the U.S. Attorney in Providence, RI fired me because of my disability, walking me out of the office like I was a criminal. My "due process" has been anything but due - I cannot afford an attorney due to the financial devestation this has caused. A recent EEOC hearing resulted in the judge finding in favor of the agency. He declared that I was a qualified individual with a disability under the ADA and Rehabilitation Act because of degenerative disk disease and the fact that I cannot sit or stand without pain (my duties were diverse and allowed me to move and function at a superior level). The judge also found that my request for a Reasonable Accommodation - reassignment for a month-long trial that went up to Massachusetts - was made in bad faith because me presenting evidence had nothing to do with my disability since I presented in Providence all the time. He came to this conclusion even though he had evidence and testimony that, every day, I would sitting for a 4+ hour commute from my home, plus I would be sitting in court for 6-8 hours each day, unable to move about. He found the U.S. Attorney's outrageous suggestion that he move my bed to MA so I could stay there to be a reasonable one. I've decided I have no real rights and the rules of this "game" haven't been told to me. Just wondering if Michael would be interested in my story. It spanned 2.5 years and included a 300 lb, 6'3" male supervisor cornering me and threatening me, an incident supported by his and another manager's memos to the file where they state that he followed me to a reception area - the next day I took photos of the reception area and it's clear that I was cornered. This was only one of the many highlights of those 2.5 years. I love his work. Many of us don't have a voice when things like this happen and he gives us one. Thank you, Michael.

Dale Weichmann   September 26th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

I wish Michael Moore would have looked into the camera when asked about 1% vs 95% , who is rich and who is not. More sincerity to the people in the 95% range. He shouldn't be ashamed of making millions by providing the 95% of us the documentary evidence of what we all know is true. If President Obama could get everyone that doesn't have Health Care, to gather together, in every County in every State. Get that Televised, what a Statement that would make. Question is, Could that kind of gathering take place in the History of the U.S.? Would it put shame on the Government?
Thank You!

Dodie ~ California   September 26th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

@ Shellie Leaonard

Because we are NOT a socialistic society, Banks can do what ever they want!!! If you signed a loan for higher than 5%, i recommend you re-finance like I did.

Edmund Malik   September 26th, 2009 11:26 pm ET

Larry, you asked michael moore, why would banks want foreclosure?
Even thou michael moore did not give you a good answer,but I will.
When people buy a house they put down payment. 10k 20k 30 or 40k what ever the amount it is.second thing they will make their mortgage payments 1 to maybe 10 years that will lower their loan balance maybe 10k it depends on their loan structure.

Last thing most of the loans are 30 years to payoff..Now #1 when the banks foreclose they will have the down payment in their pockets.
#2 They will also collect the payments people had made over the years that could total in 10k.

#3 Instead of 30 years to pay you're loan, Now the banks dont have to wait 30 years..they love to foreclose on the house this way they keep the down payments,keep mortgage payments & keep the house that people bought with their life savings..

#4 The banks turn around & sell the house & start the same scam All over again with a new buyer.

david DeWitt   September 27th, 2009 12:08 am ET

I personaly relate to M. Moore Igrew up in Flint Michigan worked in the factories aafter high school I now sell G.M. autos here in Southern Cal. for the last thirty years Big Time Changes in the Auto Bussiness. With his movies He can expose the reality of our society good and not so good Lets have an open mind and see if the shoe fits your life my life the leaders in Wasshington . Jusst remember there's A Kink in every Deal !

alejandro morante   September 27th, 2009 12:19 am ET

going back on the so easily handled question from Larry at the beginning of the show. Is it not hypocritical to talk badly about capitalism and make so much money (yes, millions) out of it (making movies with "free speech")? it sounds as the preach from the priest that sleeps with the people in the congregation isn't it?

Joe Sheridan   September 27th, 2009 12:27 am ET

I'm a Canadian living in Brooklyn. Last year I nearly died and I was able to get through the trauma for the fares charged by the ambulances.

Canadian health care coverage resulted from Donald Sutherland's wife, Shirley's, dad, the Premier of Saskatchewan, elevating the matter to federal importance. With more people in California than in Canada, my question is simply this; why is there a DEBATE on health care?

Kim   September 27th, 2009 12:29 am ET

Why do they give all this money to the banks and these corp bail out instead of giving it to the people? Also I am on ssa and ssd I make under 1300 a month, I have several major medical condtions, however I make too much money for medical assistance. I live alone and have over 8 doctors and need home heathcare. Insurence to cover my remaining 20% will cost me over 300 a month, than there is the co payments for my meds til catastrofic coverage kicks in which is 4700 ssso I have to pay out of pocket until I get there and that will run me 2000 a month, so how am I to eat or live? My option is coming close to going into a nursing home and allowing social security to keep everything I make. For me to get home healthcare I have to pay 20.00 an hour. I have to make under 950 a month to get help. What I would like to know is how is this new healthcare program suppose to help me? If we recieved the money insted of these companies, dont you think everyone one do better, I mean what are we going to do with that money other than putting it into the companies that the goverment is giving it to in the first place? Is there something wrong with my thinking or does'nt the goverment think things out more on a simple level?

John Kosecoff   September 27th, 2009 12:38 am ET

Why is there so little attention to the cyclical shift in inflation?

The United States and the global economy benefited from 24 years of declining rates (1981-2005). All of the financial meltdown that is the subject of this film occurred after inflation and interest rates stopped going down.

All of the finger pointing at Wall Street and government regulators seems to be about greed, without any attention to historical cycles. I know that statistics and historical economic trends are not as easy to understand as naked greed...but shouldn't there be a better strategic understanding of these issues before setting public policy?

S. Smithwick   September 27th, 2009 12:49 am ET

I don't think it's true that 75% of the country wants universal healthcare. Michael Moore is full of it. I believe that more than 50% of the country want the Obama administration to leave them alone. Butt Out of our lives.

Zwarick , CPS   September 27th, 2009 1:23 am ET

What does Mr. Roger Moore think (or know) about the move to add Certified Peer Specialists to the Mental Health Care System?

The costs are supported by several states programs. They are cheaper than other professional clinicians and even help some people to return to work. People who might not have been able to under the old Mental Health Care System.

Steve   September 27th, 2009 1:25 am ET

@ S. Smithwick Why on earth wouldn't the majority of the people which constitute the working class in the US want a government run option?

1) It forces competition and drives down the cost of private options. Right now corporations work together to fleece the consumers. If you aren't sure about this, they sure are which is why they have spent millions lobbying against it. A simple litmus test to determine whether or not legislation is advantageous to the average consumer is to watch how large corporations react to it. If they love it, it can't possibly be in your best interest.

2) Why would I be more concerned about the Government running health care than a for profit business? Get your facts straight, for profit health care is far less efficient than Medicare and provides worse service. Go watch the congressional footage from people like Wendell Potter (former health care exec), he'll explain it to you.

3) How can you believe in Capitalism and not want to force competition by adding more options?

4) Why would you not want to try to change a system that charges several times more than any other industrialized nation and ranks 35th in the World in quality?

5) Why would you not want to change a system that severely rations health care?

Come on people, you think the Govt. is corrupt? Who do you think is doing the corrupting? CORPORATIONS. They control your government, force them to fight back on your behalf.

Joe Kritz   September 27th, 2009 8:19 am ET

Larry, the lyrics to the song Micahael sang are from ' The times they are a changing' by Bob Dylan

Maria Gjura-Staka   September 27th, 2009 1:53 pm ET

I love his perspective on things. He says what others are afraid to say outloud. Thanks for having him on the show to help educate us.

PS you are great!

Roland Fillion   September 29th, 2009 10:16 am ET

Ask mr Moore about the Maaco big Auto Body chain. Commercial pay out of pocket no need for your insurance to go up.If no one reports accident to insurance company won't consumers get ripped off later when they buy this smashed up car that has been repaired.Is this not promoting Auto Fraud!!!!

Brigitte   September 30th, 2009 5:08 pm ET

Please expose the horrible conditions in which dogs have to live in puppy mills in Canada and the US.

Rhonda Mckinnon   October 1st, 2009 6:42 am ET

Great idea Brigitte!!!!! Just maybe with Mr. Moore exposing the horrible conditions in which these poor animals (man's best friend) endure day after day they will finally open their eyes to this injustice.
We need stronger laws now!!!!!!!

Roland Fillion   October 3rd, 2009 7:56 pm ET

We live in a maybe society where have all the yes or no people gone to another planet????

Norm   December 2nd, 2009 1:42 am ET

after seeing Farenhiet 911,zeitgiest,end game and other movies of that sort it makes it hard for me to trust anyone who is still trying get americans to believe 911 was not an inside job.I think everyone should see these movies.come on people wake up .the federal reserve and central bank started every war since world war 1.I can't believe how gullible people are .

Terri McLennan   April 28th, 2010 12:58 am ET

i want more information on the Verichip and when we will be subject to it for real..... when is it going to be necessary to have in order to survive in this world. Its here its coming to us all. what will be its real purpose?

Carleen Flack   October 13th, 2010 9:18 pm ET


Why do you think so many Americans are so afraid and look down on the healthcare and education systems that seem to work so well for Europe?

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