September 10, 2009

Rove: Obama's gamble makes Dems vulnerable

Posted: 08:07 AM ET

By Karl Rove, Former Advisor to President George W. Bush

Millions of Americans watched President Barack Obama's speech last night to a joint session of Congress. Much of it was familiar, having been delivered in at least 111 speeches, town halls, radio addresses and other appearances on health care. But his most revealing remarks on the topic came on Monday, at a Labor Day union picnic in Cincinnati.

There Mr. Obama accused critics of his health reforms of spreading "lies" and said opponents want "to do nothing." These false charges do not reveal a spirit of bipartisanship nor do they create a foundation for dialogue. It is more like what you'd say if you are planning to jam through a bill without compromise. Which is exactly what Mr. Obama is about to attempt.

Team Obama is essentially asking congressional Democrats to take a huge gamble. The White House is arguing that ramming through a controversial bill is safer for Democrats than not passing anything. This is based on the false premise that the death of HillaryCare is what doomed Democrats in 1994. Mr. Obama told a reporter in July that the defeat of HillaryCare "Helped [Republicans] regain the House." Former President Bill Clinton echoed that thought recently by saying "doing nothing" today is "the worst thing we can do for the Democrats."

Actually, attempting to pass HillaryCare is what brought down the party. Voters rejected a massively complicated, hugely expensive government takeover of health care and the Democrats who pushed it.

In reality, it is riskier to be at odds with where Americans are than just standing by as an unpopular proposal goes down. The problem for Democrats is they are scaring voters by proposing a takeover of health care that spends too much money, creates too much debt, gives Washington too much power, and takes too much decision-making away from doctors and patients.

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Mel Bill   September 10th, 2009 9:23 am ET

Larry Hi,

During your interview with Judge Judy regarding the abduction of Jaycee Dugard by Garrido you asked the Judge a question which Ireally upset me. Judge Judy said that “..there are certain people that are just wired wrong and evil..” At that point you threw this question at her : “ ...but what about the Judaism/Christian ethos of forgiveness?”

I totally disagree with the way you put the question to Judge Judy and I'll explain why.

First of all, by asking about the Judaism/Christian beliefs, it was taken for granted that both religions share the same beliefs, however that is totaly a wrong and unclear question because it misleads the audience into thinking that Christianity and Jewdeism believe in the same dogmas.

Second of all, you didn't mention what these beliefs are because one religion believes “ eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth..” and the other believes in “ forgiveness those who ask for forgiveness..” Forgive those who repent meaning that they're so sorry for what they have done and that they'll never do the same thing again. This man Garrido certaily didn't repent because if he had he would have returned the girl to her mother and turned himself in.

Also, you put a theological question to someone who is not a theologian but who is a judge. She couldn't possibly give you a good answer. So bravo to Judge Judy who didn't bother answering that really tricky question and choosing to handle it only from the legal side.

You should know that Christian faith and befiefs do not prevent justice from doing its job!!

Lastly hear this: The Bible says that every person is accountable for his actions and according to his actions he will either be punished or rewarded.

If you have any theological questions put them to me and I'll answer them all according to the Bible.

Thak you for your time

Mel Bill
Athens Greece

Raychil   September 10th, 2009 9:33 am ET

Go away, Carl Rove

Anne   September 10th, 2009 9:40 am ET

Obama makes the GOP vulnerable and look like spoiled, ill behaved, disrespectful selfish children.

mel, canada   September 10th, 2009 10:13 am ET

Shame on you America. You can help other country but can't help Americans. What is that call pretent to be nice when you no deep inside you I not

carol kesling   September 10th, 2009 11:58 am ET

to carl rove , the trouble with you--your party LOST.. SHUT THE HELL UP !!!!!!!!!!!you are a MORON, and a direspecful MORON at that...GO AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peddle you B.S. somewhere else...

eJay   September 10th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Anybody that advised the previous administration has got to be an idiot.

Jack Earls   September 10th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

I think everyone in the US government has lost touch with the hard working people of America. I ask you this ..What would happen if the tax payers would no longer cover health insurance for all (I mean ALL ) government workers, state workers, teachers ,retired elected officials and of course politians.? Something would happen then ,maybe we would pay less taxes or even better we would all get health care when we need it and not just because someone else is paying for it. I hope for solutions in this issue. Thank you Jack

Michael C. McHugh   September 10th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

I seriously hope President Obama is not taking advice from Karl Rove, Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal. I suggest that they do not have his best interests at heart. Right now, they do not have quite enough Republican, Dixiecrat and Blow Dog votes to block all of Obama's reforms in Congress. They have given it the old college try, thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Obama, called him everything but a white man, but they still don't have quite enough votes to stop the changes he wants to pass.

They may in 2011, although personally I don't believe they are going to do as well in next years elections as people seem to believe right now. In any case, we are in the first reform era since the 1960s. It is not a Second Gilded Age like the 1980s and 1990s, so that Republican-Dixiecrat conservative coalition is not as strong now as it was in the past, and will be again in the next decade.

Historically speaking, there will never be a better time to pass major reforms than right now, and this opportunity will not come around again for a generation. The only other time would be right after the 2012 elections, which I still believe that Obama is going to win like LBJ in 1964 and FDR in 1936. This reform cycle will last longer than two years, but there will never be a better opportunity for Obama to do what has to be done than right now–and perhaps Mr Rove knows that.

lorenzo   September 10th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Rove laughed when he heard of the congressman yell "you lie" ..they both should be in jail ! if I were McCain I would have walked over & demanded that the congressman LEAVE his seat & ushered outside the kidding !...

Jeri   September 10th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

Rove is the last person we want to hear from. His lying and cheating schemes put George Bush in the White House. Rove comments on the cost of health care yet had no issue with supporting Bush spending billions of dollars on war. Why is it okay for Americans to spend more money on war than on their health care? That's what the Republicans support and it's an insane approach. Perhaps they should stop taking money from war-profiteers and the insurance lobbies for once and do something to help Americans.

Rove: Go away and stay away. Your presence requires an exorcism to get rid of you. Perhaps you got lost on your way to hell. Just turn left and keep going and descending.

knucklz   September 10th, 2009 2:36 pm ET


carol kesling   September 10th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

@ knucklz, toucheeeeeeeeeee !!! ROVE IS STILL LOOKING FOR THOSE W.M.DS !!!!!!!!@ jeri, also good blog.@ lorenzo, i hope rove,bush & chenny all have cells side by side !!!! maybe they can get a whole block of cells at a discount rate !!!!! better yet put them in G.P....

Dan   September 10th, 2009 6:23 pm ET

Wilson’s top campaign contributors are the Health Care industry.

Did you see the bills that Republicans were holding up during Obama’s speech? Apparently they were crafted by insurance company lobbyists.

The health care sector has recently contributed $23 million in election campaign contributions to influence the health care debate. Most of that money has gone to Republicans and the conservative Blue Dogs.

Republicans choose the Insurance Industry over the American people.

Terry, TX   September 10th, 2009 6:53 pm ET

You go Karl Roves....I applaud and salute your service to our Country and the security of the Nation. Thank God we had you guys.

What can I say...this is what we have now.....sure wouldn't want them in charge of any intel and protection of our citizens.....what a thought these individuals as our "boots on the ground". Allow me to list what we are stuck with now....

it's a list I keep adding to.......
Pelosi, Reid, Chris Dodds, Rep Murtha, Sean Penn, Janet Garofalo, Jamie Foxx, Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Joy Behar, Bill Maher, Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, Al Gore, Richard Belzer, Schumer, Perez Hilton, Senator Leaky Leahy, Geithner, Boxer, Rachel Maddow, Keith Olberman, Rep Conyers, Rep Maxine Waters, Rep Boxer, Rep Meeks, Oliver Stone, Ron Howard, Charlie Sheen, Demi Moore, Jon Stewart, Jay Letterman, Rep Davis, Franklin Raines, Charlie Rangel, Chris Dodds, Rep Clay, Waxman, ACORN, Cafferty, Susan Roesgen and Anderson on CNN, Eric Holder, and Janet Napitalano, Barney Franks, Murtha, Rep Watson, Rev Wright, Farakahn, CZAR Van Jones. Let me know if I left any creepy leftist off the list.

knucklz   September 10th, 2009 7:21 pm ET


Jack Earls   September 10th, 2009 7:38 pm ET

In America 6 out of 10 people get heath care from the taxpayers , 2 out of 10 people have no health care but pay taxes for all that do and 2 out of 10 people get health care from their work and pay taxes for everybody to have health care. This is a problem!! If we all pay equally from our paychecks we all would be covered and only legal taxpayers would have health care. All hospitals, clinics, and health care facilities would just send one bill to the office that pays the bills , and no cheating from anybody?? What a perfect world we live in!!!!!!

Judith   September 10th, 2009 8:16 pm ET

Why is Carl Rove still walking around Free?

Judith   September 10th, 2009 8:21 pm ET

Lets tell the GOPS across the Country that they are no longer cover by health care for 2 years.Let them walk in the shoes of the Real middle class Americans.

While these GOPs lie why don't they tell the truth that the Ins Companies have them on a short leash and they are own by the Ins Companies that pay them millions for campaign and other perks by Voting No to Health Care.

Let's face it people.When the GOPs say about being Control by the Gov it is the Ins Companies that have been Controlling the American People for years.Do not believe the GOPs who run those dangerous,radical town meetings.Get them out in 2010

carol kesling   September 10th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

@ judith, 2010 is right around the corner.... vote the gop out !!!!!!!!!!!

glo   September 10th, 2009 11:09 pm ET

I don't pay any attention to anyone in the GOP. All they are trying to do is scare people and lie about everything they can to discredit our President. You can see that they certainly don't stand for Christian principles and/or patriotism. Folks like Rush Limbaugh should be removed from the airwaves if the stations that broadcast him care anything about this country. The media should not give Hannity or Palin any coverage at all. People like that state untruths and should be sued by the folks they lie about. The media shouldn't allow this trash to be televised. It is not good for our children to be subjected to irrational political rhetoric, per the GOP. As a proud Democrat, If I lived in Texas (thankfully I don't), I would ask why my tax dollars were spent for transportation to bus kids to an arena to hear a past president speak when they were not allowed to hear our current president at their schools. Just another racist issue. Race is really what this is all about. Too bad we have such ignorance in this country.

eJay   September 10th, 2009 11:18 pm ET

It's time to put people first and stop supporting these greedy Republicans and Insurance executives. Why should Americans go broke just so they can line their pockets.

janette tx   September 11th, 2009 4:18 am ET

Don't blame Bush.....Rove did his thinking for him thats
why we have this mess.

g   September 11th, 2009 11:37 am ET

divide and destroy rove

Dave of Detroit   September 11th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

After seeing what came out of the Senate Finance Committee, I think that everyone had better take a real close look at what is transpiring. Without a "public option" a single person would be paying $750 per year and a family$1500 per year for Government Health Care. I am currently getting my insurance through the State of Michigan and it is costing $400 per year for single. This difference in cost according to the Huffington Post would result in a 30 percent increase in our cost for Health Care.
What it comes down to is simply this-The President campaigned on a promise to cut taxes but our National Debt and pressures from the Chinese on our Federal government continuing to print money that is not backed by anything has resulted in a bankruptcy situation that our out of control Congress has no intention of dealing with. Thus, the takeover of the Health Care System! This is nothing more than a huge tax increase under the guise of Health Care reform. Not only that but anytime the government needs more cash-just raise the rates! Look out Tax payers-you are being taken for a Merry Go Round ride and the Brass ring remains firmly in the hands of an irresponsible President and Congress!

Dave of Detroit   September 11th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Correction-Make year the monthly cost for insurance and at $1500 per month for a family multiply by 12 and you are at an $18,000 per year total and that is not only not peanuts but we are talking about people that are having problems buying groceries having to pay for insurance or face huge fines-How many of our workers are taking huge wage cuts and benefits cuts thanks to the mismanagement and tactics of the previous administration? Where is the 15 million uninsured motorists going to come up with a higher insurance rate when they can't afford any insurance now! This is out and out insanity!

Mary   September 11th, 2009 2:21 pm ET

ROVE ??? Your still spewing venom as usual. JUST look at him protecting the BIG CEOS that made HIM FILTHY RICH....



Is their a priest in the house we need an excorsim quik !!

Mary   September 11th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

GO TO HELL where you belong !!

Ted   September 12th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Terry, Tx, you are asking if you left someone off the hate list you wrote. You left me off, because I am a proud liberal.
If the human mankind all had the same frame of mind like you have, then we would still swing around on tree tops, because why change a good situation. Plenty of bananas, fresh air, etc.
Luckily there were a few individuals who decided to get off those trees, start walking, speaking, planning the future. They built simple maschines, then more complicated ones, finally took us to the moon. Not to forget all the nice things in life, such as TV, cars, etc.

I presume you are a conservative person who believes that God took a handful of dirt and make a man out of it. You have the right to believe anything, but please do not damonize people who are more intelligent and informed than you are. Left or right in politic comes simply from on which side of the aisle you sit in the parlament. Do not forget all the dictators such as Hitler, Franco, Saddam, Mussolini and the bloody generals of the South American states were rightists!! In your opinion they must have been just right for their people, their people sure have other memories.

Ted   September 12th, 2009 11:00 am ET

Terry, Tx
During the past eight years we had the worst goverment in history, it was on the edge of dictatorship. Bush and Co, ruined our country, meanwhile their supporters made billions in war profits. That is the real reason why we went to Iraq, oil for the Texas oil barons and billions for Halliburton and co.
Anyone who thanks that gang for their service to the nation must be out of his mind.

Tarish Chatrath   September 14th, 2009 3:13 am ET

I donot understand why Americans donot understand that health is one of the basic rights every person should have. These people can spend trillion dollars without a hiss on two worthless wars just to rein in some imaginery enemy but start counting money when it comes to health services. They can look at Canada and know how peacefully every canadian sleeps; every night thanking their ancestors for the decision they made about the health care decades ago. Be careful, your health system is in all shambles and this is a truth. Come and face. Be careful of profetiers and sharks who prey upon the sickness of your countrymen. I am a grade 11 student, if I understand this, all of you should too.

Dee Dee   September 18th, 2009 7:54 pm ET

Nobody should ever listen to Karl Rove, George Bush shouldn't have listened, had he not listened, it's a great possiblity that we wouldn't be in the mess that we were in when Obama took office. Isn't Karl Rove a crook, wasn't he convicted of something? If he wasn't, he should have been. The Republicans are famous for lies and during President Obama's speech he was simply pointing out inconsistent and false information. The nerve of Joe Wilson trying to convince everybody that his outburst saying to the president of the United States "You Lie", he knows right along with the Republicans that Health Care Reform will not benefit illegal immigrants. I think those congressman must think the average Republican does not listen to the president and that's why they all come back and repeat lies including Sarah Palin, where did she read about a death penalt?. Is that anyway to be? Do you want to win at any cost; even if you have to tell a lie. I don't think so............

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