August 31, 2009

Michael Jackson's heart attack was 'kept secret', claims singer's friend

Posted: 04:53 AM ET

By Andrew Gregory via

The Los Angeles County coroner ruled that Michael Jackson's death was a homicide.Michael Jackson’s fatal heart attack was kept secret for three hours in a bid to cover-up the real cause of his death, it was claimed yesterday.  Dr Steven Hoefflin, a friend of the singer, revealed the latest twist after speaking to medics involved in Jackson’s case.

He confirmed: “They say he had lividity, which means his blood had already sunk to the back of his body.  “This indicates Michael’s heart had stopped hours earlier.”

Experts at the coroner’s office also reportedly believe Jackson was moved after his heart attack as they discovered disruptions in the pattern of “livor mortis” on his body.

Purple marks show where blood has settled in a lifeless body, which usually takes at least five hours to become apparent. Forensic pathologist Dr Cyril Wecht, not involved in the Jackson case, said: “If someone carried the body from one room to another, the livor would be ‘broken’ where contact with the body was made.

“If one person held his ankles and the other held him under his arms, there would be corresponding white interruptions of livor mortis in those spots.”

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8080   August 31st, 2009 5:05 am ET

MJ had been dead for hours, and he was emaciated.
These are facts that will come out.

b   August 31st, 2009 5:24 am ET

OMG! This is shocking. Who is the other person who helped him?

Mimi   August 31st, 2009 5:35 am ET



ann   August 31st, 2009 5:41 am ET

i hope they find out the truth but i have my doubts?

jacqueline from holland   August 31st, 2009 6:27 am ET

hi there
you now dr death is putting the guild on michael but HE IS TO BLAME

BERTHA CECILIA URDINOLA ALJURE - Wageningen - Holland   August 31st, 2009 6:45 am ET

Oh my god! Murry: wat are you doing???

These is chame!!!!

jacqueline from holland   August 31st, 2009 6:46 am ET

a normal dokter woudend let a patient laiing for 4hours dead in bed and also
movinng a body from one room to another that so cald dr deaht he"s an
animal no respect for the human beiing HE IS GUILTY

jacqueline from holland   August 31st, 2009 6:50 am ET

Hoi bertha wat vind je ervan het word met de dag gekker wat is dat voor een dokter het is een kwakzalver

jacqueline from holland   August 31st, 2009 6:53 am ET

als hij [dr death] opgelet zou hebben was hij nog hier bij ons maar er is bij hem[dr death] volgens mij een gelofte MONEY MONEY

BERTHA CECILIA URDINOLA ALJURE - Wageningen - Holland   August 31st, 2009 7:02 am ET


Weet je wat ik erg vind? Dat Michael omringd was door: Haaien!!!! Blijkbaar was hij zo naief, dat hij niet kon echt zien, wie zijn echte vrienden waren.

Ik volg dit al lang en wat ik denk is dat meer dan een arts hierbij betrokken is. Af en toe denk ik: wat is de rol van Debbie Row hierin??. Zij was toch de rechtste hand van Klein.

Arme Michael....Wat was echt echt in zijn leven???!!!


jacqueline from holland   August 31st, 2009 7:06 am ET

ik volg het nu ook al een tijd je hebt vokomen gelijk wat je zegt ik denk dat debbie rowe er iets mee te maken heeft want waarom komt ze nu naar voren
en niet een paar jaar geleden ik heb het vermoeden dat ze ergens op uit is groetjes

mariau   August 31st, 2009 7:41 am ET

mimi – I absolutely agree with you.. from the very start we've suspected that Dr. Propofol was just an instrument to kill Michael.. and Dr. Propofol feeling innocent because he was just accessories and he knew there's BIG JAWS behind him..

this is absolutely clear that Michael was murdered and He deserves Justice..

Anthony   August 31st, 2009 7:53 am ET

Devasting!!! Why would someone do this to anyone let alone Michael Jackson?

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:01 am ET

He's dead... get over it

Janice   August 31st, 2009 8:08 am ET

I am sorry, but first this is a tabloid and second this Dr Steven Hoefflin who is NOT a family friend. Would a friend b3e on tabloid shows discussing MJ'S medical history.

This guy is not stable an has been institutionalized before. I doubt he has inside information. Anything for a dollar.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 8:09 am ET just gets stranger and stranger.......I'm speechless!

Rodney   August 31st, 2009 8:10 am ET

Nobody killed Michael but Michael. He was a drug addict, plain and simple. Face up to the truth and it will set you free. Stop looking for conspiracies and the like.

Mike's is Pedo   August 31st, 2009 8:13 am ET

MJ is a pedophile. I'm glad he's gone. Thank god that Murray put him out of his misery. The world is a safer place now for all of the children and the childrens bum holes.

Tessa   August 31st, 2009 8:16 am ET

Rodney-Face up to the truth! MIchael may had been addicted to painkillers but it's HIS GREEDY ENABLERS that actually killed him. If these enablers said NO instead of YES to Michael and stood firmly on the oath they had taken as doctors "Do No Harm" to patients, MJ would still be with us!

Tony   August 31st, 2009 8:22 am ET

He haad been using harsh drugs to sleep since his pepsi tour in the 90's. His toxicology report shows this, he had ephedrine which is used to boost blood pressure and get the heart going after being down from the diprivan. He was a drug addict, calling the powerful sedative his milk. He was taking up two thirty xanax bars a day, that's 60mgs of one of the strongest benzo's. I take .5mg at a time and almost fall asleep in ten minutes. The thing about drugs is the more you take the more it takes. The dose that made him sleep and the dose to kill him was almost the same thing. The only shocking thing is he wasn't dead sooner with habits like these.

Get over it, the molesting drug addict is dead.

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:28 am ET

Tessa – MJ was a child molester and that's how he will be remembered... wish he could have died a more painful death.... VERY glad he's gone....

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 8:35 am ET

Tony, Tim, Mike

Michael was not a pedophile, he did not fit the profile....

Pedophiles dont hit on only 2 VICTIMS.....they have several hundreds!!!!!

Where are all the others, why are they not coming forward...he's is their chance.....but they are not coming forward......BCSE THERES ISNT ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why are you on this blog? Leave his memory alone! You will not change our minds!!!!!

ann   August 31st, 2009 8:36 am ET

you cant blame michael the doctors gave him the drug that made him want the drugs if the doctor was a real doctor he would not have given it to michael in the first place jail all the doctors that prescribed the drugs.maybe then they wont be as quick to prescribe these drugs to anyone in the future.michael only wanted the drugs because doctors gave him them they knew what they were doing?

Robert   August 31st, 2009 8:36 am ET

Michael shares as much responsibility as any one involved.

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:37 am ET

Lora – Like I said.. The drug addict/child molester/wanna be white criminal is dead.... get over it

mariau   August 31st, 2009 8:42 am ET

tessa – i gree with you.

Dr. Propofol he was trusted by Michael. but the truth about Dr. Propofol he was too GREEDY.

here's my huntch.. as a matter of fact there's no Doctor who have been lying to his patient, without a doubt patient truly trusted their Physician because of the OATH they promise by means of their profession. the sad thing here. Dr. Propofol said to Michael that he should trust him that nothing will ever happen to him.
as a patient we knew that all Physician will be trusted, their profession that certified them to do their good service providing concern and awareness to his patients.. not being aware only for his own benefit.
Dr. Propofol was fully trusted by Michael, Michael shouldn't demand this propofol if he knew it was too dangerous for him. the doctor promises him that this drugs will be ok and there's no side effect.

the fact that Dr. Propofol was very enthusiastic and eager to do his part by all means and whatever reasons he had in mind..
Michael would not insist or demand in this propofol drugs if he knew that he will die for it. He just truly trusted Murray for his credential and credibility being as cardiologist . if Murray had other intention by doing this to Michael then maybe he will never reveal the truth behind his action.
The damage was done.. and Michael is gone forever.. we should think what is the impact for this in our daily life? We should be aware that these things might be happen to you, to me, to our family member, to our society.
Awareness and participation that badly needed to stop this.. Michael is one of the example and he spoke loudly many times.. stop “corrupting the world”… Michael deserves justice and to all victims by these corruption.. Michael was not an addict and never been an addict for his entire life. He was just being used… for no other reasons.. except his Money and popularity..

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:45 am ET

mariau – Just be happy that he's dead! I'm sure he'll be 'judged' in hell by his almighty.....

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 8:46 am ET


Will you GO AWAY! We know he is dead......get over it!

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:47 am ET

In fact.. I'll bet MJ is spending his ETERNITY picking up the soap in the shower.

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:48 am ET

Lora... please click the little red 'X' on the top right corner of your browser if this bothers you...

Abakwue Augustine   August 31st, 2009 8:52 am ET

Show some luv peeps!MJ may hav had issues but he stil showd more lov than d average person.The problem is that given our twisted world 2day,people cn't imagine som1 lovn lyk dat.It's posibl 4 som1 2 luv lyk dat.Afterall he was found not guilty.Since u wer not ther n I was not ther,n no concrete evidence points 2 his being a paedo,it's only fair we giv him d benefit of d doubt.I think he was just plagued by his riches n fame

mariau   August 31st, 2009 8:53 am ET

not a doubt Michael is in heaven... we believe that if a person did lots of humanity and charity... for his donations of 300,000,000 dollars all around the word. God will remember his good deeds even Michael died as an empty handed here on earth..

His good deeds will never be forgotten and God knows best..




ann   August 31st, 2009 8:55 am ET

thanks oana that was lovely

Tim   August 31st, 2009 8:57 am ET

Mariau, my message is simple... Thank GOD he's dead (God probably doesn't see a $ sign when He's judging a child molester)

single mom   August 31st, 2009 8:58 am ET

hey mike, world is a safer place now that mj is gone?? sorry dude LMAO at that one!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 8:59 am ET

Tim - only God knows best... you and me has no right to judge anyone ... God knows ... 🙂 🙂 🙂 good day

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:04 am ET

What is the Truth.... Why all this coverup???????
We need the informer back

idzan ismail of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   August 31st, 2009 9:11 am ET

More will come out of the woodwork.
Let's brave ourselves for the sordid and bizarre.

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:14 am ET

To the one ....Michael WAS NOT a DRUG USER....
Some of you non Michael fans... Back when his hair caught on Fire... That was Survive burns... The man was in Pain... You don't recover from that right away... Look here... if you ever burned yourself on the stove or with a Cigarette look how it burns... for days it still burns... you put everything on it to relieve the pain... Someone Burned like Michael has to have skin grafts... a friend of ours was burned in a fire... he suffered.....Remember this the next time you burn yourself... that pain is 100 time less the Michael's was..

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:15 am ET

To the one ....Michael WAS NOT a DRUG USER....
Some of you non Michael fans... Back when his hair caught on Fire... That was Survive burns... The man was in Pain... You don't recover from that right away... Look here... if you ever burned yourself on the stove or with a Cigarette look how it burns... for days it still burns... you put everything on it to relieve the pain... Someone Burned like Michael has to have skin grafts... a friend of ours was burned in a fire... he suffered.....Remember this the next time you burn yourself... that pain is 100 time less then Michael's was..

mariau   August 31st, 2009 9:24 am ET

Mary U from Ohio
well said.. 🙂 🙂 🙂

tatiana   August 31st, 2009 9:28 am ET

Michael is dead for people like you!!!! with a very narrow mind, you are a retard, go hell, or to another worse place

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 9:32 am ET

I am not surprised at all. When I heard the chef cook speaking I knew he had been dead for hours. Murray made a couple of long telephone calls after that.

I hope the prosecution will not screw up this case and make the most of it. I am curiously anticipating what Murray will say under oath in court. I wonder if a legal oath will mean anything to him, since he already violated the oath of Hypocrates.

Janice   August 31st, 2009 9:34 am ET

Hey watch the clip above....this was his first public appearance after the year afterwards! This speaks volumes! No one will ever elicit this kind of an award show? Come on....NO ONE! The whole world loved Michael and always believed in him....only a few rodents and low life such as Tim can't dig out of the garbage dumpster to see the true light and truth of Mr. Jackson! I pity their ignorance!

MaryRM   August 31st, 2009 9:34 am ET

...and the reason you would print something from the Mirror....

and the reason anyone would believe anything written in the mirror would be.....

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:36 am ET

I was on TMZ yesterday... People were throwing a fit cause Joe Jackson.. was out at restaurants.... on Michaels Birthday.... I just watched the video that Janice posted... Michael Thanks his family and Joe Jackson was included... See Michael forgave his Father...

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 9:39 am ET

For those of you who want to make a side track from dr. Murray:

TMZ is showing pics of MJ's latest new son Prince Michael Jet


Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:40 am ET

Hi mariau how are you???
More and more keeps popping up on Michael......I hope one of them will say he is alive and well...

Abakwue Augustine   August 31st, 2009 9:42 am ET

Yeah not just d $ sign.But how abt d othr things he did.How many songs hav u n I sang 4 d displaced,how much do we long 2 see d othr person smile.How els can we judge a man xcept by his character?Thr'z jst somthng in us that tels us when som1 is lovly.I dnt know what he did behind clozd doors.But by the things av seen n heard abt MJ,I hav no reason not 2 pray 4 him that God wil 4giv his sins lyk He'll 4giv me n probably u

Patty Anderson   August 31st, 2009 9:44 am ET

This was kept secret and what else? What else did this quack do to cover his tracks. I hope he goes to a prison loaded with MJ fans. To your doom quack Murray!!!

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:51 am ET

Oh my God... First this is is Third son....Blanket is his Third.... I have more Faith that Omer is Michael son than this kid... Pardon me I have a Kid to By Michael... mariau you had one to Jacklyn you had one too... Sh-t we all had kids by Michael We could fill up CNN, TMZ pages ... with all our stories.... I guess they have nothing else to report on Michael cause the Coroner report came out...

mariau   August 31st, 2009 9:53 am ET

Mary U from Ohio – hi how are you too? 🙂 🙂 i'm fine... ooh yes.. i just wish he is still alive.. 🙂 🙂 i just wish the death hoax is true 🙂 🙂 so no more argue.. hahahaha 🙂 🙂 🙂

Abakwue Augustine – well said.. 🙂

mariau   August 31st, 2009 9:54 am ET

Mary U from Ohio
blanket is mine by Michael hahahahah 🙂 🙂 🙂

Terrie   August 31st, 2009 9:59 am ET

It was reported that Michael was dead as early as 8:30am or 9am June 25 and where was Dr. Murray????? We want to know exactly what went on in that room all this time before 911 was called around 12:10pm. Who helped moved Michael's body into Dr. Murray bedroom???? Something spells sinister and foreboding that took place in that house with Dr. Murray!!!

I hope the FBI would get involve in this investigation..we can't afford the LAPD screw this one up!!!

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:00 am ET

morning everyone

The concert is prospect park was awesome.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:00 am ET

We knew that Michael died earlier, didn't we guys?

mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:04 am ET

lindafrom newyork – Good morning to you 🙂 🙂 how are you today?
i'm too jealous about that party of MJ.. 🙁 🙁

mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:05 am ET

linda – yes.. since before.. we knew he died 4 hours ago..

Patty Anderson   August 31st, 2009 10:05 am ET

Linda We knew this from the beginning. So right you are. Amazing how it took them 9 weeks to figure this out

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:05 am ET

Linda –

I saw your post about the concert on the other blog. It looked like it was great. They turned out around the world for our dear.

Mariau and Mary U –

You girls are too late! Linda New York and I already determined that WE are in fact the mothers of MJ's love children ! :))

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 10:06 am ET

Linda NY

Never saw a report on the news about the NY party...nor the Paris, Bucharest, London, Las Vegas....etc.

Damn media only present bad stuff!!

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 10:09 am ET

Mary U from Ohio,

The tabloids are busy shaking the Jackson family tree down. Others report Culkin is Blanket's father.

I leave all options open on many issues regarding MJ, but they should put a hold on this paternity thing. It is hurtful for the Jacksons to be so public about it.

I am afraid when Klein becomes set with his back against the wall, he might throw the paternity issue on the BBQ again. I am afraid that he will think "if I am going down, then MJ will go down with me" . I don't trust him at all.

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:09 am ET

ohhhhhhh, I thought the love child was your's... 🙂

Amy   August 31st, 2009 10:10 am ET

The video was awesome. I'm so very glad he got to know so many still adored him after the false trial.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:10 am ET

The CNN bloggers already figured out that he was gone earlier than reported. He probably danced away with Farrah when she left.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:12 am ET

Hi Lora

It was in the papers and on the News
in NYC–it's on you tube–Thousands of people showed up–Spike Lee even had a Birthday caked for MJ.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:13 am ET

I don't trust that Klein either-he's lowlife piece of crap. I get upset sometimes–why did MJ surround himself with these losers.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:13 am ET

Allure –

Yes, the truth is out now. Actually...I was having a secret torrid romance with MJ and the love child just happened. Didn't want to say before because you would all be so envious. Especially Stu! 🙂

b   August 31st, 2009 10:14 am ET

Janice – Totally agree. NO ONE ever gets that kind of response except Michael. People have never reacted to any other celebrity like they react to Michael.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:14 am ET

Of course we are–Lets see –Little Michael is with me right now–

mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:15 am ET


hi ladies how are you today????

Lora Ottawa Canada- hi .. i'm too jealous to linda about mj party 🙁

Patty Anderson- yes i agree with since before we knew this

Diane in Minneapolis- ooh no diane, im authenticated mother of blanket by Michael.. 🙂 🙂 me, lora ohio and jacquelyn.. 🙂 🙂

Joey B   August 31st, 2009 10:15 am ET

I dont feel sorry for this PEDOFILE and DRUG USER.

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:15 am ET

Stu?? ME TOO! My face is green right now....... 🙂

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:16 am ET

Depending upon how many Drs they arrest, it is going to be a painful trial because the defense will drag MJ through the mud for all to see yet again and then the negative will be reported and embellished.

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:16 am ET

Hi Linda
On which blog is your report about the party?

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:18 am ET

Thank u for link!!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:20 am ET

Mariau –

Yes but there are even MORE love children out here. Someone had Omer and now there is Jet Jackson and now Linda and me so there are just too many to count ! Be careful when you claim Prince or Paris or Blanket because...............that might connect you to their REAL father Arnie Klein....eeeeewwww! 🙂

Brigida, Italy   August 31st, 2009 10:20 am ET

Thank you for the videos, I'm still watching them while typing.

To the article... MJCSI knew it from day 1. Almost all what's coming out piece by piece. No surprise. And who knows what else is hidden anymore. It has to come out.

sweldon   August 31st, 2009 10:24 am ET


mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:27 am ET

Diane in Minneapolis – that's what i said to lora of ohio.. shhhshssshh!!!!! gosh.. 🙂 🙂

Prince   August 31st, 2009 10:28 am ET

What shall it benefit a man if he gains all the riches of the world loses his soul? The death of MJ has humbled me and also strenghens my faith in the Lord. Humble because it reminds me that as mortal beings we shall all die one day, no matter our position or achievements in life. It has strengthen my faith because "it is appointed unto man to die once and after death judgement " So says the bible.Believe it or not.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 10:33 am ET


I believe it's Mary in Ohio Lol

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:34 am ET

I think they need to stop making such a big deal with the drugs and such. Michael had Lupus of the skin – which when it flares up it causes a "butterfly rash" across the nose and cheeks – that's why we would see him in a surgical mask. It also causes sores that look like bed sores. He had a back injury as well plus "dancer's feet" and the scalp burn. A scalp burn is like no other kind of burn because of the sensitive nerve ending in the scalp. Then on top of that was all of the pressure so he had depression and insomnia. Think of what his body went through to do those tours. He probably had more pain and injury than some professional athletes. He was overperscribed by some of those Drs but think of how much punisment his body took when he performed like that. There are plenty of former athletes out there who are also on pain meds, depression meds, and sleep disorder meds and they don't have Lupus. I wish they would give the guy a break. Some of those meds he was taking were critical and required. It is a shame that they listed them all totally out of context when the rest of the world doesn't know about MJ's health issues.

Jonathan   August 31st, 2009 10:35 am ET

What's up with everyone's English???? Learn to write!

Ho! And That Doctor's life is over and I don't think it was a homocide. It was an accident due to Michael's need to be constantly medicated.

I never expected him to make it passed 60. Nobody ever imagined Michael at 85 years of age...

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:36 am ET

I can't remember which blog

The party was great. I sang, danced, cried–There was Kareoke- Thousands of people-it was like that concert at Wemblery crowd–You thought MJ was coming out any minute. Spike Lee had a birthday cake for Michael and we san Happy Birthday. The crowd was just great. At one point I turned around and there was a see of people–the crowd that you see on the vide is the crows in the center you had that same amount on the left side–which is where was-and that same amount on the righ side. They played alot of songs–well when they played I wanna be where you are–I just lost it-The last song they played was Man in the Mirror–Nobody wanted to leave–so they played a second time and we were all singing–everyone knew just about every word to every song.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:37 am ET

Lora otawa Canada – ooh yes.. sorry.. its May u of ohio.. 🙂
how are you today?

Diane in Minneapolis – i agree with you and i thank God they're making progress to resolve this case.
sooner or later the truth will prevail..

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:38 am ET

How are you doing today

Gene   August 31st, 2009 10:39 am ET

Hi s to my bloggy envestgators in thiese COLUMBO SCHOOL. I am to agreements here. you counteing time tables. MJ is to be death mabye 6:30 am. I am to thinking almost fastely when thiese quacker giveing MJ injecton he sayeing he waits for MJ to sleepeing and he walk away after 10 minute. into my minds thiese is to meaning he waiteing round then walk off. remeber you needeing beaths.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 10:39 am ET

Hi Mariau

Well thanks.....just waiting on pins and needles for something to happen as to an arrest or several arrests!!!!

Afraid at the rate this investigation is's going to take months!

I have to keep busy so as not to think about it....but it's always at the back of my mind!

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 10:40 am ET


I am telling you, when Klein gets squeezed he for sure will try to save his skin at Michael's expense, even if it would involve the children.

I think we are dealing with a different kind of man than Murray. Out of Murray's hand Michael was killed, but Murray was in a way a dummy. Klein is a completely different kind of caliber. Watch out for him.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:40 am ET

morning Gene

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 10:42 am ET

Klein is a slimebucket; he will say anything to save his sking–even if he has to lie.

SuzieCanada   August 31st, 2009 10:45 am ET

it's really heart-warming to see so much love for Michael! before and after his death, through the videos posted here. Fortunately, there are many many people with brains, unlike some of the losers who posted here earlier. Like this tim/jolly creature posting under different names.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:46 am ET

Another thought on the LAPD and DA –

I think they are going at this very seriously. They want to make a big win for their reputations. Their concern for their reputations will rule over any negative feelings they have for MJ. They have the DEA and the FBI with them also. Again, I believe that it is good that they are taking their time on these arrests. They are looking for connections among all parties and they are not releasing much information. I think they are wanting to bring a whole bunch of people down on criminal charges for this.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 10:47 am ET

linda – im ok 🙂

lora – i just hope they will resolve the case very soon.

Gene – how are you?

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 10:48 am ET


Jolly is making a come back. On the other blog people are busy having discussions with him and even agreeing with him.

Although I ignore Jolly, JdF is of more concern to me.

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:48 am ET

@ Linda

Thank u very much! Sounds great, wish I would have had the chance to be there......

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:51 am ET

I don't know how you all feel but I don't believe for a minute that Klein could be the father. It is just smoke and mirrors. MJ's kids all look like him. Someone posted a video that was done closely comparing the features of the kids to MJ and it was evident. Plus, Prince already has white blotches on his hands from what could be vitiligo.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 10:51 am ET

Allure, thanks for your mail, I will get back to you later. I am working on a mail for Bertha, as we are trying to find a particular photo of Michael

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:52 am ET

Eli –

Don't worry about JDF (Justa-Dumb-F**k) 🙂

Allure   August 31st, 2009 10:53 am ET

Hi Eli 🙂
JdF is completely on another planet. Did you note that on some blogs he and John talk only between themselves? Nobody else pay attention to what they say.....

sherry   August 31st, 2009 10:54 am ET

is this report "official'?

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 10:57 am ET



Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 10:57 am ET

sherry –

The source is a UK tabloid so you have to take it with a grain of salt. It is not official from the coroner – it is supposedly a DR who talked with the paramedics. It supports out theory, however. Gene is leading us through his Colombo School of MJ Investigations.

Luda   August 31st, 2009 10:58 am ET

This article is nothing new, I read it a few days ago.... some fresh news please.

Suzie Compatriot: "tim/jolly creature posting under different names."

I think you're on something Suzie here... I do believe too they are all the same....

Good day everyone! 🙂

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 10:59 am ET

Colombo school of MJ Investigations 🙂 🙂

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:00 am ET

i really dont understan why those people questioning Michael to his genes.. this is absurd.. Michael had lots of energy and potential to be a father.. and those Morons like Klein they're just being delussional because of this children trust fund..
what's wrong with this people they think only negative about him.. they demoralized MJ also his personal man thing... HOW COULD THEY??

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 11:01 am ET

Lora –
The come on here just to get a rise out of us. The sad thing is – they represent what a lot of folks think because they see it on newsstands. There haven't been many high profile attempts to show who MJ really was. Maury Povich, Geraldo, Aphrodite Jones, the ex-Sony guys have done some but it doesn't make it into the mainstream. I am more concerned with changing the perception and shepherding MJ's legacy than I am with the immediacy of the arrests and trial.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 11:03 am ET


I was at book store yesterday looking for Michael's book and Aphrodite Jones not there....but the other 2 UNAUTHORIZED AUTOBIOGRAPHY BOOKS WERE THERE! Cant believe people are buying that crap!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:04 am ET

Diane in Minneapolis - AMEN 🙂 you're right ...
these people should be aware of Junk tabloids.. some so narrow minded as long they read it.. they would believe it.. without knowing everything..

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:05 am ET


I myself think vindication for Michael will happen only after a long period of time. It always goes like this. When everything is settled and calm down, people we will be able to see things more clearly. I am afraid it will take another decade, at least. I hope to see it happen in my life time, but I don't count on anything soon. I hope I am wrong.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 11:06 am ET

Lora –

Yes, that's exactly what is going on. Aphrodite Jones said in her interview that when she tried to sell her book to publishers they didn't want to print it because "that wasn't the content on MJ that they were looking for". I am hoping that there will be a longer term grassroots campaign to bring out the truth and shape his legacy.

SuzieCanada   August 31st, 2009 11:06 am ET

everybody, I'm addicted to these blogs and love to read everyone's comments, and i noticed i have a lot of compatriots here fans of mj 🙂
gotta get back to work though 🙁
i bid everyone a great day, and hope to chat later ... keep mj's spirit and legacy alive, you're doing a great job. love to all.

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 11:08 am ET

I keep going Blog to Blog.. I sending CNN the Doctor bill for my Hand Cramping up....

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 11:09 am ET

Eli –

I totally agree with you. One good thing.......his kids will grow up before we know it and they might choose (on their own with no influence from others hopefully) to do something for his legacy.

Luda   August 31st, 2009 11:09 am ET


Aphrodite Jones, I hope you can find it .... it's very interesting to learn what really happened!
So many things have not been said....

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:10 am ET

janice i signed up already thanks

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 11:10 am ET

Have a good day Suzie!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 11:11 am ET

Mary Ohio –

I was doing that also but I decided to go to the most recent one whenever a new story is posted. Those long ones cramp the hand and slow the computer.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 11:14 am ET

Sorry guys....last posting of video

This is the best Michael singing solo!

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:15 am ET


That's a good one. I hope his kids, for instance Paris, will be able to give us a better look in the near future. I hope Michael will get his ultimate vindication through his kids.

Luda   August 31st, 2009 11:16 am ET


it doesn't work. when I clic I get a message that says : This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.....

Did you find it on youtube?

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 11:17 am ET

Lora – Good post! That was right around the time I started really looking at him differently and getting my crush – I was 15. He sang with such feeling.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:19 am ET

luda – that video when Mj had TORRID KISS WITH THE FAN..

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 11:19 am ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel... Michael Children are see what the truth is... what these idiots people did to Michael's life.... What are the Kids Thinking about this??? maybe the family are keeping the Kids from reading these Blogs...They already have an idea what their Father went through... Al sharpton said at the Memorial... There was nothing strange about you Father... They were strange on who did this to Him....Something of that sort...

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:21 am ET

ooh yes luda they remove it.. because MJ really kissed torridly the girl
but i have it here in mu file. that video i had it for 1 month now.. sorry
but if you will watch that.. you will see how Michael really a good kisser.. "FRENCH KISS"

Emmy Lalonde. BELGIUM.   August 31st, 2009 11:22 am ET

WE love you Michael, the people around the world love you very much. RiP.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:23 am ET

LUDA – i will send it this in other form of video.. i want you to watch this.. they removed it..

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:23 am ET

I wanna be where you has to be one of my favorites-Michae's voice is so pure on that–I cry every time–

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:24 am ET

Are you talking the concert in Bucharest

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:26 am ET

linda – i think this in germany

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 11:28 am ET


What a kiss more than one!

I cant seem to find the second video Girl fights for Michael's attention

Gene   August 31st, 2009 11:28 am ET

Ok. I am going to thiese side trackeing. makeing thiese senses abuot time. you counteing. 10:30am. 11:30am. 12:30 pm. there is 3 hour MJ death.. then you to addeing 1:30pm. 2:30pm. that would be right 5 hour. some where to be 9:30 10:30 am. dcotor is lieyers about thiese time. you look. if he is telleing 911 EMT and onto hopsital thiese truth mabye they to be useing oter drug to helping MJ. they not to kow what dcotor giveing him so they are to useing wrong drug to helpeing MJ. mabye makeing wosre. if MJ is wake up for thiese day why would he to be askeing for propnol at 10:30am? makeing no senses. plus he haveing oter drug into him makeing him not to thinkeing right. ---–
Ok. this is to be truth abuot Hoff dcotor. you kowing he is thiese freind of chandler. YES he is. mabye not now. chandler thiese ones they giveing MJ informatonals abuot nose dcotor many year agao.

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 11:30 am ET

Joe Knows his Kids Had talent..... You Can't blame him... If we Knew our kids had talent we would do the same... Others have so why do they blame Joe for everything... Michael was just extremely Talented... someone that we never seen before that could Dance, Sing, and that voice that soft spoken voice... That made the Fans go crazy... The short films he put together... WOW... I think... People are jealous of the Jacksons....

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 11:32 am ET


This is Michael's SEXIEST video by far.......and he is so gorgeous, so hot!

Lucky girl that Naomi Campbell was!!!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:33 am ET

Mary U from Ohio
yes i agree with they were madly jealous how's MJ fans interacted with him..

this really incredible.. especially when he was in front of you. 🙂 🙂 my gossh..

Eva   August 31st, 2009 11:34 am ET

Everything is very strange. I think Michael must have been dead several hours before Murray's calling . I hope The police will reveal
Mike's murder.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:35 am ET

Lora Ottawa Canada

yes.. lora and we never felt that he was a gay.. never.. i felt this way to MJ>.

oohh really he was just simple sexy man..

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:37 am ET

lora – they remove it again in youtube.. wait i will check other one

Allure   August 31st, 2009 11:37 am ET


cannot see the kiss clip 🙁
Maybe it's better not to see..... I'm just a jelaous girl......... 🙂

Gene   August 31st, 2009 11:38 am ET

Sorry. Ok. I am now readeing all thiese sotries here. I am not to readeing thiese warrants for onto MJ home yet. nobody to sayeing for truths MJ haveing thiese IV machine. only IV poles. ----aslo I am to thinking now. klien he is truley lieyers men. rember he is to sayeing he fixeing MJ head from burn? not truths! was oter dcotor. Ok. I am to comeing back into here later on. mabye we haveing some good news onto tv abuot thiese dcotor. hopeing so.

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:40 am ET

allure which video? oooh ...

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:40 am ET


mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:43 am ET

linda - you too jelous 🙁 🙁 me tooo...

Allure   August 31st, 2009 11:43 am ET

@ mariau August 31st, 2009 11:21 am ET

ooh yes luda they remove it.. because MJ really kissed torridly the girl
but i have it here in mu file. that video i had it for 1 month now.. sorry
but if you will watch that.. you will see how Michael really a good kisser.. “FRENCH KISS”

This one!

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:46 am ET

I think that if you speak to most women-90% would agree that Michael was 100% heterosexual–We can tell these things–you can feel it. Most men are just not intuitive that way. Michael was very comfortable with his sentitive side; most men think they have to be on steroids in order to be real men–Please–

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:46 am ET

@Allure, could you send it to me? I don't see it so well. It looks good, Michael was even laughing. It was in Argentina.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:47 am ET

can you tell I am jealous–I thought I was holding it in pretty well

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:47 am ET

linda - ooh yes linda i agree with you

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:48 am ET

linda - i'll bet you .. yes..

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:50 am ET

can you plese post these videos- on-welovemichaeljackson group on yahoo please–I will watch when I get home–PLEASE PLEASE

snuggy   August 31st, 2009 11:50 am ET

mariau – look how loving Michael is! Most entertainers would make sure the girls are kept off stage and pulled off of him so he could continue his show....not Michael. His is SOOOO loving. BEAUTIFUL.

Allure   August 31st, 2009 11:50 am ET

I have the clip you're talking about just on a DVD, its on the DVD "Dangerous". I understood that mariau was talking about a clip in which Michael was kissing a fan,that's why I called it kiss clip 🙂

BTW: where's Diane from Minneapolis?? Oh I see, when we're touching certain topics she has to outside for a cigarette.....

mariau   August 31st, 2009 11:52 am ET

linda – ok promise - all video i have i will post it in welovemichaeljackson yahoo group.. ok as you wished 🙂

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:52 am ET

Like I said before–I love the way that Michael always gently pulled away from his fans after he kissed them–so sexy–They would've had to use a crowbar to separate from Michael-I am serious-

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:52 am ET

Linda, homo's are also very comfortable with their sensitive side. That's why gay men and straight women can become such close friends.

I don't think it was a real classical French kiss. It was somewhere near the nose and cheek, but Michael did enjoy it, that's for sure. I have noticed before he fancied blond women ( I am a brunette), I have seen a similar clip from Germany.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:53 am ET

@ Diane
I undestand--

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:55 am ET

I hope you did not just say what I think you said--Look, I am African American–I don't care who he fancied–I sill love Michael-

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:55 am ET

@Allure, I know that clip from the Dangerous DVD, but that's a nother girl. This one was more direct and Michael seemed to be in the right mood to allow it, though I think it was not a real French kiss. It looked good anyway.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:58 am ET

Is somebody else posting on here as you–you seem to go from one side to the next –you confuse me sometimes.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 11:58 am ET

No no Linda, I am not pulling the race card. I am a quarter Yemini, rather dark myself. Maybe because of that it stroke me myself. This German girl was also so blond and he came on to her as well.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 11:59 am ET

@Eli–I'm talking about The Homo comment–I will say this again Michael was not gay.

mariella   August 31st, 2009 11:59 am ET

Wow, this si so sad. Poor Michael. His murderer, a doctor he trusted, did what ever he could to cover up his irresponsible care that killed our loving Michael Jackson. This sounds like a movie, seriously, a heart breaking movie. this doctor deserves more than his life in jail. I just don't know why he hasn't been arrested. Justice has to be done. This man is a murderer who thought out very well how to cover his crime. He knew propofol could kill him, this is some thing he thought about before distributing the drug to michael. He thought "I will do it, but if he dies.. I will cover it all up" this Dr. Could care less about michael's health come on. Please God please punish this dr. Please allow justice to be done. Dr. Murray is a murderer. He knew what he was doing. He tried to cover up his crime. He deserves jail and beyond.

sarah   August 31st, 2009 12:01 pm ET

Hello every1

so sad & heart breaking all these people surrounding Michael none one of them helped him, poor Michael, they let him died 🙁


mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:03 pm ET

linda – i'm with you 100% and i absolutely agree.. 🙂

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:10 pm ET

OMG !!

I leave for awhile and you are all talking about sexy Michael ! Glad I'm back. I will have to page up and see what the hotness is about.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:11 pm ET

I mean–how can anybody watch Dirty Diana, Given it to me, Another part me and so many others and think Michael was gay is beyond my understanding. Listen–I would've gone with Michael Jackson anywhere on this earth–Just call my name Michael and I will be there Sweeheart.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:12 pm ET

Please tell me how sexy Mj was in these videos that I mentioned above.

Janice   August 31st, 2009 12:15 pm ET


I know that's right...and it would have taken MORE than a crowbar to get me off of him! I'm serious, too! OMG! Go to youtube and search "Michael Jackson Gold Pants" to see our sexy, sexy Michael. Oh god, who could ever think he was gay! He was so "hot" and "passionate." Lisa Marie did an interview saying "it was the sex that held it together....he was a freak in the bedroom!" LMAO! Oh my, wish we knew!

lex   August 31st, 2009 12:16 pm ET

my was so not gay...and he was very sexy in dirty diana

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:18 pm ET

@Janice & Lex
Sexy oh my god–you just want to through the TV screen-What?

mariella   August 31st, 2009 12:18 pm ET

And for those commenting on Michael's sexuality... he wasn't gay. First of all he was raised as a Jehovah's witness... to them being gay is deadly sin. Not that michael was against gays but deep down in side he believed it wasn't appropiate in the eyes of god, it also wasn't his cup of tea. Come on he was married to the beautiful Lisa Marie P. Are you kidding me? He wasn't gay. He wasn't even really sexual. He was a big kid. Though he was aware that he had a lot of gay fans which is why he tried to remain neutral. Michael was a very angelic respectable person who believed in good. He believed in using his fame and money for a good cause. He thought he was a messaiah. And god bless him for all the good things he did and all the hearts he touched, including mine.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 12:19 pm ET


Ah okay, I thought you meant something else. About Black or White.

Well, as I said before, I keep all options open though I'd rather wish he was not. My first gut feeling always said he was not gay, but I would not want to put all my savings on it. Either way it was a hurtful thing for him: either being gay without being able to come out of the closet, or being not gay but not able to bond with women, for whatever reason. I really had hoped he would have had a complete family, with a wife who adored him and be his soul mate, raising kids of their own. I really had wished a passionate and stable romantic relationship for him. Why it never happened beats me. Another question on my list of questions for G-d.

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:20 pm ET

Hi everybody,sory in the other blog i just left.

This is shocking,but we new this.After this i dont believe,he didnt doo it on purpos.I cant believe,a dr would be this stupid to give this much drog,and then dont call 911,whenn was a chance to sawe Michael,and who was the other,who helped hem,and why he would helped hem?Couse thay whanted to murder hem.I realy hope,FBI go in to this,and finde the ones,who whanted to kill hem.I believe,the FBI dont fu.k up everything (in purpes),like LAPD.Poor Michael,what thay did to hem?!

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Yes girls,he was sooooooo sexy!

lex   August 31st, 2009 12:22 pm ET

the reason michael didnt find his soul mate cuz thy wanted money and he jus wanted somebody dat loved him not his money

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Jancie,what interview was that?

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:24 pm ET

OMG,this guy with this so much feeling,how could be he in bad?Ahhh!!!!

mariella   August 31st, 2009 12:24 pm ET

Michael was very sexy.. he always seduces me when I watch his videos. Smooth criminal.. Bad.. Remember the Time, and omg.. You are not alone.. without a shirt ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... and the list goes on.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:25 pm ET


Right on Girlfriend. EVERYONE – MJ was not gay and not a pedophile. He was 100% hetero. Women can just tell by watching him and his sexual energy.

lex   August 31st, 2009 12:26 pm ET

ya'll wanna see some sexy michael youtube sexy michael jackson

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 12:26 pm ET


Nice heart is so heavy today...I cant seem to watch his videos without crying!

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:27 pm ET

I too wish that MIchael was able to have a complete family. I think that Michael was able to bond with women but not as permanent partners. I think that alot people for whatever reason choose not to have that type of bonding for whatever reason. It doesn't make them gay. Sometimes if you were deeply hurt by a relationship you tend to shy away from any type of bonding. Michael was deeply hurt by Tatum O'neal–as a matter fact–She's out of my life–was written especially for her–He wrote it right after they broke up. I believe 100% in my heart that Michael was 100% heterosexual.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:28 pm ET

So much sexual energy-My god–Let me just have a minute with Michael–PLEASE

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:28 pm ET

OK – here's another one for you – watch the "They Don't Care About Us" video and check out the levi jeans – OMG.
Also in those videos with the gold pants you could really see the thigh muscles. Uh oh Stu.....time for a cigarette!

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Linda NY

a crowbar....LMAO

Glad he got rid of Tatum O'Neal.......what a mess she was and still is.....maybe that is why they broke up!

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:31 pm ET

I know–Those Levis–WOW-what can I say.

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Diane,i dont know,sould i laugh or cry...

Janice   August 31st, 2009 12:32 pm ET

@ linda...

in the gold pants videos, you can see more than his thigh muscles....HELLO!!!!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:32 pm ET

I think that many heterosexual men who bash MJ are insecure to begin with and then they see that he has a spell over women and can have just about anyone he wants at any time. It is probably difficult to rationalize for many of them so they bash him and call him gay. No way! Security with a spatula!

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:33 pm ET

ok,now i diside lough 😀 .

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:33 pm ET

Please post this gold pants video on
Yahoo groups

Did you guys check out Jacquelyn's website for Michael

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:34 pm ET

Diane,you gat the point!Only mans call hem gay...Couse thay are jallus

lex   August 31st, 2009 12:35 pm ET

lol they dnt reallycare bout us is a great video he shouldve wore those jeans more often

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 12:35 pm ET

That is correct
they can't understand it -

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:37 pm ET

samantha – thank for this video


single mom   August 31st, 2009 12:38 pm ET

hope dr. death gets what he deserves!! R.I.P. Michael, you know who your real fans are and always will be!!!!

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 12:42 pm ET

I wish michael kids were mine....

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 12:43 pm ET

@ Diane

Lol,I think I'm also on OLS mode haha!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Who has the yahoo group called ? If I go there and register can I get into the group?

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 12:45 pm ET


I agree about the kid and not being really sexual. But why remaining neutral to please gay fans? Isn't that against religion too?

Well, I have said enough, I don't think we will ever agree on this issue, which doesn't mean I believe he was gay perse. I simply don't know what to think about it and I just don't know why this should be a sign of disrespect for Michael. I am just being honest and not hypocrite about my uncertainty, for I know a substantial amount of people also don't know what to think of it. For the same reason Linda says that one can feel that he was not, some sort of instinct, I can say that I know gays who say they have the same instinct the other way around. None of them however had ever a gut feeling he was a molester, I think that's the most important thing. He was innocent.

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 12:46 pm ET

I cant even gat to the page now.Jus whit.

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 12:47 pm ET

After watching these videos

I am wishing that Murray WOULD commit suicide!!!!! Sorry but that is how I feel.

Dirty Diana   August 31st, 2009 12:48 pm ET

If the body was moved, it must have been the security guard that made the 911 call that helped Murray. There have been different reports where Mj was found – Murray's bed or his own? Why would Murray think they would not do an autopsy if it looked like an accidental overdose?- They would do an autopsy regardless to detect which drugs were used. Murray has to be either extremely evil or extrememly stupid...he is .probably both.
Thanks, Janice, for the post. I am so glad that Mj saw how much the world still loved him and believed in his innocence after the trial.

lex   August 31st, 2009 12:49 pm ET

those gold pants videos r wow

Mimi (Hungary)   August 31st, 2009 12:50 pm ET


Get the hell outta here!
I wish you'd be dead instead of him!
You're sick..

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:51 pm ET


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 12:51 pm ET


I agree with you on the "bad experience" part. Once you have had a bad experience, especially when you are in the spotlights, it is difficult to trust again. Don't forget also the first impression he had on a man-woman relationship. It might have taken away his hope for once getting "the real thing", with all parts of a good relationship in it. I do believe he was unique in this, one of a kind. Therefore it is such a pity he never found the right one. His life might have taken a different course then.

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 12:51 pm ET

@ Eli

Whilst Michael was not the most masculine of men out there,he was NOT gay and neither was he 'confused' about his sexuality!He was just really shy and besides,I think he was 'naughty' behind the scenes lmao but the fact remains that he adored women!!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:52 pm ET

OHH LEX.. that was in philippines manila concert year 1999.. check his gold pants.. ooohhh lalalala... and his buts..

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 12:52 pm ET

@ Mariau

I'm laughing like crazy after reading your comment!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:53 pm ET

Samantha –

Thanks for the Human Nature video. We can add the gold triangle to the list with gold pants and levis. Oh my!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:54 pm ET

samantha – did you watch that in gold pants i'll be there.. oohh lalala
Michael was so sexy and masculine in his own way.. 🙂

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 12:56 pm ET

It's official – Mariau has surpassed me in the OLS department! You go girl!

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 12:57 pm ET

@ Diane

Lol,whilst I would like to call it gold triangle too,its called a body glove and one cannot deny that only Michael could look so divinely sexy wearing that!!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:57 pm ET

samantha - ooh my gosh.. he was simple naughty guy.. hahaha

mariau   August 31st, 2009 12:59 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis - i've lots of that from MJ.. hahaha 🙂 🙂
thats.. why figure it out.. HE WAS NOT A GAY... OK...

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:01 pm ET

Hu,that gold pants 🙂 😉

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:01 pm ET

michael has such a nice ass

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:02 pm ET


If we are getting this excited just watching Michael performances,can you imagine what it would've been like had we got to meet him?Lol,I think I would've fainted just standing next to him!!!!

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 1:03 pm ET


I would pretend to faint–so I could get mouth to mouth and then I would grab him-

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 31st, 2009 1:04 pm ET


He surely had a naughty twinckle in his eye!!

Barbara   August 31st, 2009 1:05 pm ET

I believe Michael definitely liked women. I imagine he had many, many, many girlfriends too. The man has got groove, and sensuality. He probably wanted people to believe he was an innocent goody-goody-but you know what they say about the ones that do not brag....or do not kiss and tell....

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:06 pm ET

stu - look at his buts.. so nice

lex- his truly sexy

samantha -ooh yes you're right .. haha 🙂 🙂

dianne - levis 101 and gold pants..

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:07 pm ET

lol linda

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:11 pm ET

what more if we would see him in personal??? hayyyy girls.. we miss Michael so much.. please God bring back MJ to us please.. please in exchange for Michael take martin bashir, diane dimont, ian halperin and all MJ haters.. TAKE NOTE: THIS IS A JOKE OK 🙂 🙂 🙂

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:11 pm ET

@ Linda

Lol,after I regain consciousness,I'd hug Michael real tight,lock lips LOL and would try my best not to let go but just before security got rid of me,I'd slip him my number!!!

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:11 pm ET

In that pants you can see,hes dancer legs with muscels.
I am wochinf that video,that i was post.Its very interesting,all about hes music life from the begening.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 1:13 pm ET


That's right then I would whisper–Call me

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:13 pm ET

This is the kinde of show,we wish the tv would alvais show about hem,so grait.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 1:14 pm ET

Glad you're joking–I an not

Take them please -I want Michael back

Barbara   August 31st, 2009 1:18 pm ET

I wonder if he wore boxers or briefs! LOL

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:18 pm ET

diane the video u jus posted doesnt work try it again

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 1:21 pm ET

He had a dancer's butt, too. There are some naughty people on this site today. Hurray!

Samantha – whether it's called the triangle or the body glove – we KNOW what is there. I wonder what he had to wear under it?

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:24 pm ET

@ Diane

Oh yes,we know what is lurking beneath for sure lmao!

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 1:24 pm ET

Lex – here it is again. If it doesn't work just go to youtube and search for "michael Jackson the gold pants for ladies" . The music is Marvin Gaye Let's Get it On.

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:26 pm ET

thanx diane

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:26 pm ET

O God,you girls gonna kill me!This gold pants klip is crasy.I hope,my husbend dont come in the room!

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:27 pm ET

@ Diane

I'm gonna watch it now but I guess I'll have to be careful not to drool over my keyboard LMAO!!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:29 pm ET

oHH GOSH... THIS gold pants.. ohhh lalalala... what a big ___
ohh Michael.. we get nuts... with you ..

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:30 pm ET

michael shouldve jus stripped in one of his concerts lol

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:30 pm ET

samantha – hahahahaha... 🙂 🙂

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:39 pm ET

I just watched it and I can truly say that Michael also had a pretty nice butt too lol!

Michael has such an irresistible charm that this one user posted the following comment on you tube:
"I keep having the same thoughts, what the hell was i doing that I missed all of this???If I had seen just one vid of him like this,I would have sold my ex just to get to one of Mike's concerts. lmao"

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:41 pm ET

michael did hav big feet ya'll

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:42 pm ET

@ Janice

I just started watching the video but I'm laughing silently to myself because of this 'Sex Bomb' track LOL!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:43 pm ET

ohh what a nice gold pants janice.. 🙂 🙂

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:44 pm ET

OMG! 😀 I hope,he know,how he still make us happy!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 1:51 pm ET

stu – i guess he knows .. how are you ? 🙂

Janice   August 31st, 2009 1:51 pm ET

@ Samantha South Africa

I know! Oh my, at 1:20 in the sexbomb clip, I think I'm gonna faint..

I have to take a break now....I'm feeling very weak....

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 1:52 pm ET

Thanks Mariau for the question,after this gold pants vido,very good! 😀
And you?

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 1:53 pm ET

I am not responsible

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 1:57 pm ET

I'm out of breath lmao after watching these videos so I think I'm gonna give it a break for now!!!

Don't get up to too much mischief girls............

lex   August 31st, 2009 1:59 pm ET

we should hav a contest...who can post the sexiest mj videos lol

mariau   August 31st, 2009 2:04 pm ET

Lora Ottawa Canada
be careful to your wish.. after someone will complain about your wish..
🙂 🙂 good wish.. go girl..

mariau   August 31st, 2009 2:06 pm ET

samantha – thanks for this wonderful video.. it touched my heart.. 🙂

lex   August 31st, 2009 2:07 pm ET

dat is a nice picture linda i hav dat pic in a mj tribute magazine i bought

Samantha - South Africa   August 31st, 2009 2:08 pm ET

@ Linda

That's such a cute pic of Michael and Janet.Michael said in one of his interviews that Janet and him were so alike that they used to even come up with the same ideas.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 2:09 pm ET


Anthony   August 31st, 2009 2:18 pm ET

Michael is the best!! F the press!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 2:23 pm ET

oh yes anthony.. Michael is the best F___ the press !!!

mariau   August 31st, 2009 2:25 pm ET

linda – thanks for this link.. i will add all those pictures in my collection and i will make new youtube video for MJ.

rosegarden   August 31st, 2009 3:05 pm ET

I don't think MJ had heart attack, but all you girls here got heart attack!

SuzieCanada   August 31st, 2009 3:08 pm ET

OMG!!! I leave this blog for a couple of hours and what do I see when I come back?? You Girls going wild and crazy LOL, gold pants and sexy moves and all .... can't blame ya! My turn to watch and ... go wild too ...

bb619   August 31st, 2009 3:10 pm ET


Gene   August 31st, 2009 3:14 pm ET

Ok. ladies into here. I am not to be sayeing nothing onto this bloggy. thiese not open talk for men only girly talky agian. I am sayeing MJ he does to takeing care of hes bodys. haveing to to be dacner. now I am going to oter bloggy. you can makeing warning sings into her FOR LADIE ONLY.

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:17 pm ET

You are funny–we love you too Gene

Gene   August 31st, 2009 3:17 pm ET

Ok. I am to readeing into here somebody sayeing ladies into her e haveing thiese heart atack. please you NOT to calleing dcotor quackers for thiese CPR. Ok. he not kowing how and he breaking thiese rib at same times.

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 3:18 pm ET


I really hat to crack up when I saw that video of stranger in know, MJ was really a funny guy in a very nice way ; he just decided to fiddle with the lady's top when she sprayed him and even attempted to follow her when she left. she was so taken aback with what MJ did...i think she didn't expect it. 🙂 🙂

Hi everybody,

U ladies are really having another great fun are so funny and I tell you all, MJ will love to follow these jokes of yours. I just have to keep cracking up with laughter when I read your comments. SUCH A WONDERFUL THERAPY FOR ME AGAINST MY GRIEF FOR MJ......KEEP IT GOING GUYS !!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:18 pm ET

You are so crazy–plese do not call Dr. Quack–I don't want to die

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:20 pm ET

MJ wouldn't have to follow me–I would just give me my address

lex   August 31st, 2009 3:20 pm ET

haha gene

SuzieCanada   August 31st, 2009 3:20 pm ET

LOL Gene! sorry for the "girlie talk"... couldn't help it!

mariau that was a scary video there with this sinister character ... it would be interesting to find out if this thome guy is in any way connected to that murray guy

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 3:33 pm ET

Ahh i would give Michael my adress,and the exact point of my bad.Dreem on Tunde! (thats me)

Gene   August 31st, 2009 3:34 pm ET

Answers to suzie. YES. thme haveing to be hookeing into dcotor quacker. rember when MJ moveing to Las Vegas. thome he helpeing MJ. dcotor in aslo into Las Vegas. so many tiese dcotor to pickeing from. how come thiese dcotor. he liveing into same propertie sycamore colony companie the are owens it. connceteing into thiese dots. not to be pulleing dcotor name out from thiese hats.

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 3:39 pm ET

I always thought I was the only one who was getting bonkers over that figure with those gold pants.......... MARIAU AND STU, did you recognise how nicer they looked when he stood there with his legs together and starts to shake his body backwards and forwards ????ooowaaaooo !!!!!! MAGIC..... 🙂


I agree with you that Murray has displayed himself as a mixture of an extremely stupid and evil man in what he did by trying to cover up his tracks if he moved MJ from where he was to MJ'S room. Did he really think he was doing a very wise and clever move by doing that !!????...... I believe that one who said the security guard who made the 911 must be the one who helped Murray to transfer MJ from Murray's room to MJ's room.

I think its time up this security guy is also investigated, and what the hell is he doing in the UK..... it was reported in the MIRROR of UK that this Alverez is in the UK. Why is this a little sequence that most of these people involved with MJ tend to run to the UK or are in the UK !!????.........or is it their little business of trying to make a few pounds by selling their cheap stories ?????

Stu,Hungary   August 31st, 2009 3:42 pm ET

But how come,that Murrey after all still free?

mariau   August 31st, 2009 3:48 pm ET

cocovelvet – we're having lots of fun here in this blogs.. at least for nice break of this reports..
the gold pants is my favorite mj suite.. esp. that VIDEO I'LL BE THERE TOUR IN MANILA.. I SAW IT HOW BIG HIS ____ AND YES I HAVE HEART ATTACK HERE.. everytime i watched him .. i'm just gonna say ohhh lalalala.... it makes me nuts... oooh MJ.. you have such a beautiful buts.. and your _____ really seducing...
We love you Michael... we miss you so much.. 🙂 🙂

mariau   August 31st, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Gene you are so funny and i like you 🙂 🙂 🙂 hahaha 🙂 🙂 🙂

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:52 pm ET

mariau–I can't wait to go home and watch this video–you post it right

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 3:53 pm ET

hi everyone,,,,,,,,,,,,I am stuck in my spair room until satursday morning.No, tv, and this computer,,,,,,,,,,,,I can not get video to load on utube!~!~~~~ plus the space bar is sticking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,any news????

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:54 pm ET

You make alot sense–It just looks like everybody was connected to each other-before they knew MJ-it could be a coincidence–but I don't know

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 3:55 pm ET

@Sherry–How are you

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 3:56 pm ET


I actually got shivers when I saw the picture of this Tohme Tohme.........I understand why MJ was afraid of him. He actually looks brutal and no-mercy did he really got to be close to MJ to even run his businesses !!!????. I think i read somewhere the past days that he was introduced to MJ by Bashir.........they were reported to be both from Lebanon. My GOD, how can he run MJ's business affairs when he even sounds like he cannot speak english properly !!!!???? GEEEZZZZZ !!!!

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 3:59 pm ET

Hey lindafromnewyork
doing ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,stuck in my spare bedroom because IM radioactive until saturday,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for medical reasons,,,,,,,,,,,,,now I cant get this computer to play the utube, ive installed flash player,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ugggg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no television in this room,so Im going to be online all week,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

mariau   August 31st, 2009 4:02 pm ET

lex – i'm the winner – i posted it first.. ok.. i'll have one but they remove it in youtube.. i will try to post it again in youtube..hint MJ put on his legs to his fan.. and they kiss her very torridly in front of camera.. but they remove in youtube.

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 4:05 pm ET


You make me really laugh like hell by saying you're gonna lock yourself .....I can imagine what will be going on in that room. I tell you that video is HOT on its own.....


That ___ i tell you can send any sensible lady to heaven and back....I just don't understand those people who thought such a HOT guy like MJ could be gay.................I mean when I watch that video, my eyes are always just concentrating on the ____. GREAT THING I BELIEVE...HAAA!!!!HAAAA!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Janice   August 31st, 2009 4:06 pm ET

I want him to spank me at 0:10 in the sexbomb clip with all his sexy anger! HeeHee!

lex   August 31st, 2009 4:06 pm ET

is this guy hav the same first in last name thome thome haha but yea hes freaking scary

lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 4:07 pm ET


lindafromnewyork   August 31st, 2009 4:09 pm ET

Did you listen to the tape where MJ is talking about Tohme Tohme

lex   August 31st, 2009 4:09 pm ET

wait wat sexbomb video i didnt see dat one

lex   August 31st, 2009 4:10 pm ET

no not yet but i saw a picture of him tho

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 4:10 pm ET

I wish I was doing it for fun

mariau   August 31st, 2009 4:13 pm ET

sherry no problem i downloaded all that video and i have more i will post in in welovemichaeljackson group.. all videos i had.. i will post it there .. but are not availble in you tube..

no probblem linda - i will

about Tohme, scary i think he had all MJ's money that's why MJ billion is lost.. if ever that Tohme is the master mind of this crime he should go to the jail in Guatamela prison..

angelwings   August 31st, 2009 4:16 pm ET

How Many Ways Did Poor Micheal Died????????????????

mariau   August 31st, 2009 4:17 pm ET

oh yes cocovelvet – that video you will just focus on one thing on MJ"s ______ your only focus on his golden ___ i mean pants 🙂 🙂 🙂
that's why i dont understand why they keep telling MJ was a gay..
they dont know what the means of WOMAN'S INSTINCT... 🙂 🙂

lex   August 31st, 2009 4:18 pm ET

dat damn thome thome w/e guy used mj's money and he mulipinated him

angelwings   August 31st, 2009 4:22 pm ET

First it was a heart attack
then drug over dose
then murder
and again a heart attack I just dont get it

mariau   August 31st, 2009 4:24 pm ET

angelwings – the final result will be in LPD AND FBI
i just hope that tomorrow they will put Murray in jail.

angelwings   August 31st, 2009 4:27 pm ET

hi every one.........

I saw the post of Micheal was afraid of the doctor thome un believeable

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 4:37 pm ET

Hi All,

I had to be away for awhile and I come back and see that Mariau is still on the GOLD PANTS! You go girl!

That is the OLS Alert!

A few folks are the new blog. I wonder what the people think who come to the CNN blog to get the news and intelligent discussion. All they see are the naughty gold pants girls.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 4:41 pm ET

What is the Sex Bomb video clip?

Jadesola Babatola   August 31st, 2009 4:46 pm ET

Michael, you lived on this stage of life as a musical giant and like an angel of some kind. The rest is history. You lived to the satisfaction of your fans all over the world even when you have your limitations. We still love you and admire your appearances, skills, songs, composure and dancing steps. Adieu, MJ

Lizette Villumsen   August 31st, 2009 4:50 pm ET

It is sad. All people have confidence in their doctor and expect a competent treatment. I give all my thoughts to the family.

jolande   August 31st, 2009 4:57 pm ET

oh my good lord what did this doctor do to michael in his final hour,its getting uglyer every day.why dont they pick him up and trow him in jail he is not a healer but a killer doctor ,i think he did so many things wrong he was to scared to call 911 right after he found michael
i dont understand all yhe storries he died 3 times or so
caddial arrest ,propofol haertattack it is strange but i hope from the bottom of my haert justice will be done and the responsible people will pay for wat they did to my sweet michael hope he find his rest in the spirit world love from the netherlands

Terrie   August 31st, 2009 4:59 pm ET

We have some players that are now showing up in the scene such as Dr. Klein, Dr. Conrad Murray, Tohme Tohme, and Frank DiLeo in MJ's inner circle. I am wondering what other key players were involved in MJ's death. Michael was very fearful of Tohme Tohme and expressed he was extremely evil.

Tohme Tohme and Frank DiLeo looked like members of a mobster group. This death investigation is getting bigger and weirder as it progresses.

Janice   August 31st, 2009 5:07 pm ET

@ Diane

The sexbomb clip is posted above, several posts back up....we were just all drooling today trying to remember the good is one way of coping with incredible sadness.

Jacque   August 31st, 2009 5:16 pm ET

This is sick, everytime someone dies, people come up with gossip, let God solve it, we cant no body listens to plain people, no matter how many!

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 5:18 pm ET

Still trying to tweek my internet settings to play flash adobe,,,,,,,,,,,computer so slow,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and its gonna be a long long 5 days

CHM   August 31st, 2009 5:25 pm ET

TIM-how about you? How do you think you will be judged considering your unkind comments. Why would you even both with this blog if you feel the way you do about MJ? You don't know beyond a doubt that he was a pedophile. I for one think that kid's family is really enjoying Michael's millions and the kid walks around like he's Mr. Cool.
People like you post comments such as those you have posted just to get attention since positive comments usually do not garner attention and responses. My hope is we won't both with you again.

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 5:28 pm ET

that sexbomb clip is just mesmerizing....whoever made it must have needed a cigarette time and again, GGEEEE!!!, that part with Naomi Campbell rwingling like a snake is just one other part, and my best is the one with Blood on the sexy in a decent way.......aaauuuchhhh!!!!!!

Judie   August 31st, 2009 5:34 pm ET

I see some negative words today that's okay a few negative & more than a million positive. {meaning fans we all cant be wrong}

lex   August 31st, 2009 5:35 pm ET

cocovelevt can u post the link 2 the sexbomb video cuz i wanna see it lol

Lora Ottawa Canada   August 31st, 2009 5:47 pm ET

I was reading up on his tours


Micheal only performed in the U.S. once and that was in other places in the states nor in Canada......were all in Europe, Asia, Australia.

Wonder why?

No wonder I never had the chance to see him!

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 5:50 pm ET


Go check the comment on top from SAMANTHA SOUTH AFRICA at 2.02 p.m. ET. Thats the video, and I tell you its gonna tip you off a little bit from your screen........hold tight girl !!!!! 🙂 🙂

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 5:51 pm ET

Lex – it's up the page at 1:38 p.m. posted by Janice.

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 5:54 pm ET

I AM ABOUT TO TOSSTHIS COMPUTER THREW THE WALL!!!!!!! does anyone know about windows xp and making sure settings are ok to play videos on utube???

lex   August 31st, 2009 5:55 pm ET

oh lol

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Lora –

I think that the countries outside of U.S. and Canada were a little more forgiving than we were. It seems like they took the rumors with a grain of salt and didn't believe everything they read. In the last 10 years he felt more accepted by fans outside the U.S. & Canada. Also, I believe that after his 02 Arena concerts in the UK he would have established a residence in the U.S. and then also one in Africa. When he spoke with Mandela and the people there he really loved it....hisw face lit up.

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 5:59 pm ET

Sherry –

Did you RIGHT click and select "open with" to see what it comes up with? I have XP.

angelwings   August 31st, 2009 6:00 pm ET

I just want to know how Micheal really died god to many things so many lies

Judie   August 31st, 2009 6:01 pm ET

Lora Ottawa Canada,

I think he toured in us w/Jackson 5 Victory tour

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 6:09 pm ET

Ive got windows media can I go to utube with windows media?

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 6:14 pm ET

SHERRY, I understand how crazy this thing called a computer could be driving you...... and they usually start their hic-ups when you really don't want them to do that. Two days back I nearly sat on top of it when it all of a sudden decided that it was going to hang up.....JESUS, all the efforts I tried failed, even when i tried to just directly switch it off. I was actually fuming and talking alone so loud I think the neighbours were wondering........

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 6:15 pm ET

I was trying to just use my web page to go to utube,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it will not play,,,,,,,,,,,did the whole activex a million times,,,went to my computer changed my settings in security so frustrated

Alicia   August 31st, 2009 6:15 pm ET

Wow, thank you for all the videos and pictures. I'm just catching up. It really makes me forget that Michael is no longer with us. Helps me escape reality for awhile, and not by myself, which feels better! Of course, reality does come back, unfortunately.

Mariau, is the welovemichaeljackson group on Facebook? I want to check it out.


Sherry   August 31st, 2009 6:20 pm ET

Cocovelvet,,,,,,,,,,,,,ty 4 the support, lol,,,,,,,,,,,,just frustrated,,,,,,,bad enough I'm stuck in this darn room till saturday,

Diane,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ty didn't know I could do that with windows media player,,,,,,,,,,,getting somewhere,,,,,whew

Alicia   August 31st, 2009 6:28 pm ET

If you can't find Aphrodite Jones' book " The Michael Jackson Conspiracy" you can get it on ebay or You should read it, it's good and finally, the TRUTH!

Susan   August 31st, 2009 6:29 pm ET

This CNN topic was already revealed, so we know all about it already. Wasn't Dr. Hoefflin the doctor that did the nose surgeries on MJ? Is he the one that has his office in the same building as Klein? If the answers are "yes", then Klein and Hoefflin were good friends and Hoefflin had the operation room equipment IF Klein gave MJ diprovin.

my love for u   August 31st, 2009 6:30 pm ET

I say this some ppl think it's kool to lie on this earth but when jugdement day come you can't run are hide from God,,,and i don't think it was mj's time to go,,but some one killed him,,,anyway like the old saying the truth shall set u free....

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 6:34 pm ET

It just goes to another page and wont work,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,geez,,,,,,,,,,,sherry stomps feet and wants to holler but it wont help

Susan   August 31st, 2009 6:41 pm ET

I apologize. Just researched Dr Hoefflin. He is NOT in the same building as Klein. He is the doctor in Santa Monica where Debbie Rowe gave birth. Sorry....I should have researched prior to making my comment.

Melanie   August 31st, 2009 6:44 pm ET

Unbelieveable! This is so hard for me to accept. Michael should still be alive! He died at the hands of another and somebody should pay!!

CHM   August 31st, 2009 6:45 pm ET

Diane–thanks to you and everyone for all of the videos. It's good to see that MJ once looked so healthy and happy. I am so glad that he had those wonderful years. And it goes without saying, he was gorgeous.

Judie   August 31st, 2009 6:49 pm ET

chm well said

my love for u   August 31st, 2009 6:53 pm ET

ppl will pay for what they did to mj all of them not just one

my love for u   August 31st, 2009 7:06 pm ET

Ppl say this and that about mj but the only one that can real judge him
is God

Curious   August 31st, 2009 7:11 pm ET

All you so called “fans” are the real LEECHES. Where were you before he died? Now all the sudden you cant stop praising him. Funny how maggots come to feast on the dead.

my love for u   August 31st, 2009 7:19 pm ET

Sorry my bad i meant to say is that the only one that can really judge him is God

Janice   August 31st, 2009 7:21 pm ET


Oh WE WERE HERE along...we bought every album, every video collection, requested his music on radio stations, bought tickets to see him live, showed up at the courthouse to support him....

so you might want to re-word your question or direct it at someone else....BECAUSE .the people on this blog are true lifelong dedicated Michael Jackson fans and admirers of his music, his humanitarianism, his dance, his God like spirit, and his musical genius.

Joan   August 31st, 2009 7:25 pm ET

michael got what michael wanted just as he got those babies who now have to face a cruel world if you truley love your babies you will not take risks like Michael choose to he knew it was a risk to take those drugs he was told yet he asked for it

Cocovelvet   August 31st, 2009 7:39 pm ET

Good answer JANICE.......unless if he doesn't have anything to say, then he/she can say where were we.......

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 7:48 pm ET

I have a question,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,durin the "MICHAEL JACKSON SQUIRM ON THE HOTSEAT " utube video,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHO is asking HIM all those QUESTIONS???????

Janice   August 31st, 2009 7:56 pm ET

@ sherry

A reporter in London

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 8:00 pm ET

Then why does he have an attorney with him>??? It almost seems like a police interigation

Diane in Minneapolis   August 31st, 2009 8:01 pm ET

Sherry –

Sorry I had to drop off. Is your video running now?

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 8:02 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis
yeah!~ ty so much for the help!~

my love for u   August 31st, 2009 8:25 pm ET

Hi everyone
i'am not here 2 down mj are his fan's b/c i love him just like yall do

Barbara   August 31st, 2009 8:41 pm ET

Do you know what Michael was laughing at in the Laugh Crisis Interview? I couldn't make out what he was saying at the beginning? I know the beeping watch or cellphone got him going again afterwards.

Sherry   August 31st, 2009 8:42 pm ET

Janice,it says its a laywer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,caption is..."Unseen: Michael Jackson Slamed by Lawyers questioning"

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:06 pm ET

I always thought Michael, is more Sexier, and better looking then Johnny Depp....

Lori in Massachusetts   August 31st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Dr Murry obviously was in panic mode because he gave the fatal dose that killed him. I had a feeling all along that Michael was dead long before he got help, Murry's story just didn't add up as far as the time line. After seeing Larry's interview with the chef I was even more convinced! This Doctor shouldn't t have been allowed to care for a gold fish never mind a human being. I am so tired of these star struck money hungry so called doctors getting away with giving people with money & power whatever they want and then some people blame the victim. What a shame.

Emily   August 31st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

I feel...sad....that such a sweet person had to leave the world that way. I personally beleive that his death was accidental. Until I hear an interveiw form the doctor [Murray] I don't think it's a homicide....yet.

lex   August 31st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

@linda michael and those damn gold pants lol good video

Mary U from Ohio   August 31st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Michael is Definitely better looking & Sexier,then Johnny Depp

Dorothy   August 31st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Dr. Murry isn't the only one involved in this cover up, you have all those doctors who for years prescribed drugs to feed his addiction. His dermatologist is one of those people, and then there should be records in the pharmacys to back up all of the prescriptions that were filled. This started long before Dr. Murry came into the picture because he has been using for a long time and even had ask his long time friend Liz Taylor to help him. They need to start the investagation from back when he had the pepse accident because that's when he lost control of his life. Sure they want to make someone pay for Micheal death, but while he was living they did nothing but try to destroy him with vicious lies.

Deborah C   August 31st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Why is everyone worried about who gave MJ all his drugs? If anyone else in the country were to obtain drugs in 52 fictitious names they would be in jail. Wait... there are tens of thousands of people who ARE in jail for obtaining prescription drugs in fictitious names!!! My question is why wasn't Michael Jackson in jail. Maybe then he would be alive.

Dorothy   August 31st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Honestly I think that Dr. Thome may have had a hand in Micheal's death because he fired him days earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anne   August 31st, 2009 11:03 pm ET

The difference is that the MDs knew the prescriptions were for MJ and they wrote them in aliases on purpose. So they committed the crime; not him. If you go to an MD and lie about your name, you have committed the crime not your MD.

VES   August 31st, 2009 11:57 pm ET


DO some research and gain some knowledge about the "truth" as close to it as you possibly can.

Remember, there is more to it than what is coming out right now and there are several people out there who know the "truth" as well. Pray that the truth will PREVAIL- If you are a true fan you know Mr. Michael Jackson's heart" he couldn't hurt an ant, yet "so many" people tried to hurt him and they finally did! Let's educate ourselves on what is really going on in this case... we have to fight for justice for Mr. Michael Jackson.

The real crime is in the Doctor's prescribing medication to "stars" and them becoming addicted- this is intentional, don't under estimate them.
There needs to be a stop to that....seriously...

Let's not fight among each other through this "way" lets fight for getting to the truth for Mr. Michael Jackson and so many other star's that are so severly taken advantage of.
The real truth is- they are just people to who are human beings that have the same needs and desire's just like the rest of us. They aren't supernatural, immortal.... as we have seen in our beloved Mr. Michael Jackson's death. REMEMBER



Do something worth while, to help another person. If you "really" love/loved Mr. Michael Jackson...educate yourself on what his reality and "fate" was and why? As you should know the "LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT TO ALL EVIL". Don't be fooled by tabloid junk mail, weed through that remember

Fight for truth

Fight for truth

Fight for truth

Stand together, don't fight among yourselves...those who love Mr. Michael Jackson....fight for truth for him and his family..

May God Bless you!

Patty Anderson   September 1st, 2009 12:06 am ET

Thank you for that VES

Terri   September 1st, 2009 12:12 am ET

ok now@Rhonda you have confused me with your new arrangement on the Mj site lol now were to I go?

Sherry   September 1st, 2009 12:17 am ET

VES. nicely stated

Ramon   September 1st, 2009 12:19 am ET

Jackson caused his own death by:

1) requesting and taking drugs he was told would kill him and

2) conspiring to do so by not being honest with Dr. Murray about everything else he was taking to cope with his addiction.

Had he gone to a hospital, as his friend and former nurse told him he'd likely be alive.

Everyone wants to blame, and MJ is the one who spiraled down and failed to follow the good medical advice he was given.

Terri   September 1st, 2009 12:28 am ET


Terri   September 1st, 2009 12:30 am ET

The report didnt show any such thing that is what those news reported he has been using since 84, but if he was using those drugs for that long of period his liver,kidneys and any other enternal organs would be damage wthich werent. IN FACT THE CORONER WAS SURPRISE AT HOW HEALTHY HE WAS, SO HOW CAN HE BEEN USING FOR THAT LONG OF A TIME? GET REAL AND DEVELOP SOME INTELLIGENTS ABOUT DRUG USEAND WHAT IT DOES TO YOUR BODY OVER LONG PERIODS

Yasmene   September 1st, 2009 1:14 am ET

MJ never used drugs or shot needles in his arm or neck come on. Think they showed him on tv doing performances and his shirt is open you can plainly see his neck and chest now you think people who were around him, would have notice needle marks but not one did or they would have said something . the doc was drugging him up without his knowledge and keeping him drugged. Now anyone who has been drugged and taken advantage of, knows you are helpless you are not in control of yourself or your mind and like i said you are helpless. In his case it was happening all the time . Michael was making a come back ,you think Michael wasn't going to catch on after being away from doc ...come on the doc got scared and killed him

itsme_gia   September 1st, 2009 1:34 am ET

i just would like to comment to tim...pls dude..,dont be so judgemental,only god knows what the real truth behind michael's child molestation case...only one thing that i am relying on from this issue... i am not from america,but if you are..are'nt you suppose to be the believer of your justice system??,beyond reasonable doubt, by your court he is found not why cant you get over that issue also??let those kids make an appeal..for us to know nothing bout the truth and me stop talking like dont even have half michael's talent get lost..will you???

Sheletta   September 1st, 2009 2:39 am ET

What the HELL! This just keeps getting more and more out of what's the word I am looking for Context's. This should had been acknowledge a long time ago. HMMM wonder who help Dr Murray/Feelgood move Michael body? He suffer a Hearth Attack from all them damn drugs that he was given to sleep I bet. What is not cool is that Dr Feelgood knew he had a Heart Attack and done nothing, not even call for help like 911. No all he wanted to do is cover his dumb ass!

How could something like this be kept in the dark, what is he scare of telling? How can this man sleep at night knowing that he stole Michael's life right from under him. Now, and getting more and more piss off by the sec.

Itsme_gia: Thank you for that. Why do people continue to convict Michael of something that he was found Not Guilty of? If you was not there to see he take advantage of a child, them you really should not comment on. That's is what Michael fear the most while he was alive that the Media had turn his fans against him, which may be true especailly when you read so negative statement pertaining to Michael and the so call molestation case.

All Michael ever did was to give back ehat the LORD gave to him and that was him self. Michael has done so much for ill children, colleges and much more, and to be disrepected like this is not a GODLY thing. Michael did so much for us his music, dancing and giving, and all he asked for was to be loved UNCONDITIONALLY, why is that so hard for people to do. This don't cost a dime. Love, is suppose to be free with no strings attached. Michael was a HUMAN BEING, just like we are, he is going to bmake mistakes, as I pretty sure we all have. The way he felt about his childhood and felt about children from all over the world, is being made (has made) out to be something DIRTY, and it's very very wrong. Even in his death the MEDIA/pple continue to trash his name, and to me that's not right. Michael deserves the much needed peace that he was unable to get here on Earth. So I say that to say this PLEASE LET MICHAEL REST IN PEACE, he has waited a long time to be left ALONE.

I am so sad, as well as piss for what has happen to the most famous Artist, dancer and person of this world, he did not deserve to be taken out like this. I was raised not to hate or be hate , but now I just do not know about this. What is taking them so long to bring this man and his helpers in for this crime?

Olga   September 1st, 2009 3:16 am ET

That day I kew he was dead way before they called 911, I told my husband that dayt that when the Dr. realized he was dead he panicked when he could'not revive him and didn't want to call anybody out of fear and Michael died...That's the way I felt that we know.

anne   September 1st, 2009 3:51 am ET

if anyone doubt about he is guilty or not.. better read "michael jackson conspiracy" by aphrodite jones... just google it..
IAM NOT HIS FANS... but seeing and listening many awfull thing about him make me simpathy for him.... so I want to learn the truth
and iam right... the way media try to put down this man is beyond disturbing....

my love for u   September 1st, 2009 4:47 am ET

wow ppl are still on here are no

Debbie - Canada   September 1st, 2009 11:09 am ET


Debbie - Canada   September 1st, 2009 12:01 pm ET




sheila   September 1st, 2009 12:24 pm ET

horrible horrible so sad why ??????????????why?????????????? his doing this horrible thing to somebody. i am totally upset. he must put him to justice ...............please.

Cal   September 1st, 2009 12:40 pm ET

I had the feeling from the beginning that MJ was dead some time before 911 was called. Now, like everyone, I am wondering who help him move MJ body to a different room. Murray should have had some one sit with MJ wait he left the room to relieve himself. I have faith the truth will come out in the end.

Jan   September 1st, 2009 12:56 pm ET

conspiracy by aphrodite jones and redemption by geraldine hughes is a good read for Tim.

Hanim   September 1st, 2009 1:13 pm ET

i knew this all along..
i really hope the feds are getting on to this case...
its so obvious that he died hours before..
wht bothers me is that, why didnt murray IMMEDIATELY call the paramadics. its fishy. too fishy.

Tania from Nicaragua   September 1st, 2009 1:37 pm ET

uhh this is getting worse, make MJ rest in peace please

Monica a sad girl in Sweden...   September 1st, 2009 2:22 pm ET




love mj love mj love mj love mj love mj love mj love mj love mj love MJ!!

Eva   September 1st, 2009 4:48 pm ET

Debbie, You 've written nicely!! I really love this song and his prayer. I hope GOD helped him and stayed with him in his death.
R.I.P Michael

alicia   September 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

his death is still a unanswered question. i believe there are more than one witnesses. and we all know without their help we will never knew the truth.

obomasom   September 2nd, 2009 12:10 pm ET

where exactly wil he be buried?

Nancy Endari   September 2nd, 2009 12:48 pm ET

I look on the day when justice will prevail and those who are responsible (if proven by evidence) will be brought to justice and truth will be revealed. Till then, I pray for his soul to rest in peace, his children and family.

cc   September 2nd, 2009 2:08 pm ET

I think they killed him cause he didnt want to do all those concerts. So they drugged him to sleep.I am sure Murray wasnt only one in the room.

cc   September 2nd, 2009 2:11 pm ET

A tim if someone killed you or someone in your family wouldnt you want to see justice. Ok if you dont care for michael that is fine but he was a human just like all of us. Have a little bit of dignity would you.

cc   September 2nd, 2009 2:18 pm ET

lorrawa of canada.

Your absoultely right girl. Their would be more victims. Like another singer not going say his name he is one casue he keeps having more and more allegations come out him dealing with young teenage females.

Plus pedifiers mess with both sexes doesnt matter tdid a study in college on this. Tony them just dont like him so they want to bash him. I hope noone ever degrades them than they will no how it feels.

Triny   September 2nd, 2009 3:16 pm ET

Tim, Tony and all the other haters of MJ:

Use your brains! Child molesters don't abandon their behavior after being accused. Michael Jackson had his OWN children and never did harm to any of them. Both of those families that accused MJ of this were after money, plain and simple! The first family that got money dropped everything because they got what they wanted! If it were my child there isn't enough money in the world that would fix the harm he had caused my child! Bottom line if it had been my child I would want him either in jail or DEAD!!

These families took advantage, period and anyone with half a brain can see that!

Cherie   September 2nd, 2009 6:26 pm ET

I can't believe some of the rude things that a few people are saying on here about Michael Jackson!!! OMG!!! You didn't have to like Michael Jackson, for whatever reason, but you have no right to judge him like that! Or anyone for that matter! That just breaks my heart to hear people talk the way they do about MJ! Things like: "im glad he's dead, may he burn in hell", "i dont care about that drug addicted, child molesting, wanna be white....", "im glad he is dead, now the world can really be a better place", "he's dead, get over it", etc......COMMENTS LIKE THAT ARE RUDE, HEARTLESS & COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY!!!! HAVE SOME RESPECT PLEASE! I would also want to make a point.......Now i DON'T believe MJ was a child molester BUT for those of you who do & are judging him for what YOU believe, remember, that NO sin is bigger than the other, so, for example, a MURDERER will be judge the exact same way as someone who just had a "little" casual sex out of wedlock, or an individual who lusts, hate, lie, JUDGE. Those things are "simple" in the eyes of the world but all of it is seen the same way in the eyes of the "man upstairs" since some of you think you can judge whether MJ will go to heaven or hell (like you are the Heavenly Father himself) don't forget about yourself. You better think!!!!!


Now my comment on the actual topic:

I know MJ kind of played a hand in his own death because he RELIED on that strong drug to put him to sleep (hence, addiction) BUT Dr. "Don't-know-what-the-hell-he-is-doing" is to blame for this. The fact that he panicked says it all! He waited TOO long before he called the paramedics, AND, REMEMBER, he disappeared after the paramedics hauled MJ off to the hospital, leaving his car behind!!!!!! WTF!!!!! What that says to me is that HE KNEW BETTER!!!! He knew better than to give Propofol to MJ AFTER he administered THREE other sedatives no more than a few hours prior! My theory is that MJ demanded the Propofol because the other crap didn't work & Dr. "Don't-know-what-the-hell-he-is-doing" was scared to get fired (im sure MJ would've fired him for not giving him what he wanted) & loose all that good money. GREED! NOW, more evidence is coming out AND THE FINGER IS STILL POINTING TOWARD DR. "Don't-know-what-the-hell-he-is-doing"!! Doc knew what he was doing was not medically correct, but he took a chance anyways & now he has been caught. Deal with it! He wasn't lucky like the other doctors who provided this medicine to Michael, he messed around & killed the man!!!!!! Hey, Dr. "Don't-know-what-the-hell-he-is-doing", was it worth it??????????

Marcella   September 2nd, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Tim OR is it TIMMY? you seems to know the characteristics of a child molester very well.. are you one? with a name like that it is possible. Since you feel so stronge about your comment why don't you go to a black neighborhood and voice your opinion..hope you make it out alive!

Kiki   September 4th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

I should not have read this I'm completely upset all over again. The doctor who was SUPPOSED to take care of Michael let him lay there...for HOURS before he called anyone...he moved him??? omg =( I mean I knew something was up from the beginning just because how that idiot Murray was acting. then I read something about he 'panicked' he would only have done that because he KNEW he had done something wrong! It was wrong of him to even tell Michael that it was ok for him to use that for sleep anyway what kind of doctor does that? Seems all he cared about was the big paycheck that came with being Michael Jacksons doctor. and you know some people will say oh MJ should have known better and you know what maybe in a way I agree but at the same time, I trust my doctor to give me the medicines that he thinks are SAFE for me to use. Michael isn't a doctor he probably said ok give it to me, i can't sleep because Murray said oh hey its ok.

** oh and by the way, if you think he's a child molester (which he isn't look at the facts instead of reading everything the stupid media puts in front of your face!!!!) or you wanna say "oh get over it" "the world is a better place" then DONT READ AN ARTICLE ABOUT HIM! It just shows how pathetic and sad your life is that you have time to leave a message on a story about someone you dont even like.**

what this person said in another comment say it all!

"Use your brains! Child molesters don’t abandon their behavior after being accused. Michael Jackson had his OWN children and never did harm to any of them. Both of those families that accused MJ of this were after money, plain and simple! The first family that got money dropped everything because they got what they wanted! If it were my child there isn’t enough money in the world that would fix the harm he had caused my child! Bottom line if it had been my child I would want him either in jail or DEAD!"

Cali MJ Fan   September 6th, 2009 3:20 am ET

This is a repost of someone's comments– and truly fitting.
Sunset in the Pacific September 4th, 2009 3:53 pm ET

I wish I had to time cross post this on every Michael Jackson Blog on LKL.

September 3rd was a fitting tribute and dignified ceremony honoring one of the most beloved entertainers of all time. The guest list and the attendance spoke of well deserved respect and affection bestowed both on the deceased and for the family. And once again the children made a poignent statement through their love and final gestures.

Not one circumstance, lie, truth or rumor will ever change the finality of last evening. Many virtual friendships and connections seemed to have been made by all the cross-posters who attended these Blogs, as well as creating other opportunities to visit off-line websites.

As a mark of honor and in good taste, Larry King Live & CNN Webmasters, why not close down the Blogs that continue to enflame speculation for no good reason any longer.

To truly allow the family, friends and fans some lasting peace and consideration.

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