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August 19, 2009

Report: 'Indictments Are Coming' in Jackson Case

Posted: 02:06 AM ET

via Popeater.com

michael_jackson_performingWith the various angles of the Michael Jackson cases slowly building up in court, many people are wondering just when charges will come down and even why they haven't yet.

PopEater was able to speak with best-selling Jackson biographer Ian Halperin as well as Judge Larry Seidlin, who presided over the equally public and dramatic Anna Nicole Smith case in 2007. Seidlin tells PopEater that investigators are "traveling on the same roadmap" in the Jackson investigation that they were in the Smith case, while Halperin tells us that "indictments are coming down against more than one doctor."

Exclusive Details After the Jump!

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Toni   August 19th, 2009 2:16 am ET

I cannot believe you are still believeing Halperin. He doesnt care two cents about Michael. Hes another lowlife pig out for bucks. And if the LAPD are only following the drug addict garbage then All justice for Michael will not be done. Halperin, get a life. Michael is dead, leave him alone.


Jacquelyn   August 19th, 2009 2:26 am ET

Look when an official notifies us that indictments have been sent out, then let us know. Ian, oh geesh.


Lori   August 19th, 2009 2:26 am ET

This article is quoting Ian Halperin and Judge Larry Seidlin? I think I will wait for some reliable information–like the LA PD or the DEA.


sandy   August 19th, 2009 2:28 am ET

Jacquelyn and Lori..I agree w/ you.....doubt that is a reliable source!


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:29 am ET

In reference to word that Katherine Jackson is possibly planning on filing a wrongful death suit in the Jackson case, Halperin tells PopEater that "the reason Katherine is now preparing a wrongful death suit is that she and the family have been informed by the LAPD that indictments are coming down against more than one doctor. Conrad Murray is broke so a lawsuit against him won't net much, but some of the other doctors are rolling in money and they are fair game."


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:30 am ET

Halperin says that "Katherine is just as concerned at this point with the money of the guys who surrounded Jackson, who she is convinced looted her son's assets in his final years." As for the estate control part of the Jackson's case, Halperin says he's "learned in the last few days that Michael definitely didn't want [co-executors John Branca and John McClain] to control his estate at the time of his death. I've learned that from key sources close to Michael. That's why Katherine is pursuing this in court."


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:31 am ET

They just can't stop talking.


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:32 am ET

This quote is from a judge:

Seidlin tells PopEater that "the Michael Jackson case is Anna Nicole 2," and even says he's "willing to volunteer out of my own pocket and go to California and be a mediator to resolve this case. with Joe Jackson, Katherine Jackson, the executors of the estate and [Debbie] Rowe, and bring these parties together. These three children of Michael Jackson need stability. They need a stable, healthy environment."


sandy   August 19th, 2009 2:33 am ET

Rhonda, I'm glad we have you...you always get the info.. 🙂 Thanks!!


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:33 am ET

Reports that it could take up to a year or year and a half for all this to end.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 2:41 am ET

Rhonda–I wouldn't put too much trust into what Halperin has to say; don't forget he is the same one who said that MJ came on to him.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 2:42 am ET

Rhonda
I really like what you did with the site–


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 2:47 am ET

Linda,
I know, just reporting what they said. Haven't heard to much on this judge though. May have to research him.

Thanks on the site


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 2:54 am ET

Rhonda
Page for Jacquelyn is also very nice


Toni   August 19th, 2009 2:55 am ET

Rhonda
The Judge is a clown. He even Cried in Annas court. Hes a flake. I cant believe the family has anything to do with Halperin. Now that Michaels gone, Michaels kids will probably be his next meal ticket. Hes a sicko.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 2:58 am ET

The Jackson family just need to move the hell out of the united states before the media destroys all of them the way they destroyed MJ.


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 3:17 am ET

Toni,
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that.

Linda,
Thank You

I knew all those kids should have stayed hidden. The media is going to do them exactly what they did to their dad. What a shame.


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 3:19 am ET

I am going to go lay down. No sleeping for me, but I have to be up in 3 hours to go to work. Have girls. I will catch you later (AKA THE INFORMER) so i've been told LOL


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 3:19 am ET

meant to say have fun girls


sandy   August 19th, 2009 3:22 am ET

Good night Rhonda, Sweet dreams


Alisha   August 19th, 2009 4:20 am ET

Are you kidding me with this drawn out coverage of Michael Jackson's death?

This crap is a typical situation of the media over interpreting what they think is mainstream public opinion by assuming that there can not possibly be a more intelligent topic for the media to cover other then the death of an internationally recognized (yet dead) musician. Your obnoxious coverage is actually doing the late pop star an injustice by continuing this sensationalized & irrelevant coverage. Let it go! Let's move on and focus on issues that are current and in the process of affecting the lives of the american people in the near future. I have suggestions if you want future input but I'm not sure it will get you the same ratings.

~Alisha from NY


itsme_gia   August 19th, 2009 4:59 am ET

i really hope that there should be an indicment on this one...its difficult for us fans to have a closure of mj's passing if there will be no possible real reason for his death..ian halperin is a hoax...


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 6:57 am ET

Have any of you heard anything about this which I found whilst browsing:

"The week after Michael passed there was a video on you tube of Michael speaking to fans outside the Burbank’s studios in late May or early June. In this video Michael talked about being angry with the promoter (AEG) for booking him up to 50 shows. He also stated HIMSELF that he didn’t know how he would do it as he wasn’t a big eater and he would need to put some weight on.
This video has since been removed. Erased. Hidden.
I watched this video with my own eyes and I have emailed news sites everyday asking them to locate this video, but we know they never will, as they are part of the cover up
Does any have a copy of this video? Was anyone there when Michael said these things?
We can’t keep letting them get away with murder because it suits their pocket books and evil plans.
Please, if anyone else knows of Michael saying these things, email all the news outlets. Lets force the truth out from hiding for once!"


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:15 am ET

please read again...

With the various angles of the Michael Jackson cases slowly building up in court, many people are wondering just when charges will come down and even why they haven't yet. PopEater was able to speak with best-selling Jackson biographer Ian Halperin as well as Judge Larry Seidlin, who presided over the equally public and dramatic Anna Nicole Smith case in 2007. Seidlin tells PopEater that investigators are "traveling on the same roadmap" in the Jackson investigation that they were in the Smith case, while Halperin tells us that "indictments are coming down against more than one doctor." Exclusive Details After the Jump!

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In reference to word that Katherine Jackson is possibly planning on filing a wrongful death suit in the Jackson case, Halperin tells PopEater that "the reason Katherine is now preparing a wrongful death suit is that she and the family have been informed by the LAPD that indictments are coming down against more than one doctor. Conrad Murray is broke so a lawsuit against him won't net much, but some of the other doctors are rolling in money and they are fair game."

Halperin says that "Katherine is just as concerned at this point with the money of the guys who surrounded Jackson, who she is convinced looted her son's assets in his final years." As for the estate control part of the Jackson's case, Halperin says he's "learned in the last few days that Michael definitely didn't want [co-executors John Branca and John McClain] to control his estate at the time of his death. I've learned that from key sources close to Michael. That's why Katherine is pursuing this in court."

Seidlin tells PopEater that "the Michael Jackson case is Anna Nicole 2," and even says he's "willing to volunteer out of my own pocket and go to California and be a mediator to resolve this case. with Joe Jackson, Katherine Jackson, the executors of the estate and [Debbie] Rowe, and bring these parties together. These three children of Michael Jackson need stability. They need a stable, healthy environment."

Seidlin agrees with Halperin about upcoming charges, saying that "criminal charges are going to flow from this case. I'm prepared to predict with certainty that people will be charged with crimes. They want to dot every I and cross every T. "

Seidlin says the Los Angeles Police Department has "their suspects twisting in the wind. Their knees are shaking ... All the stars line up in the sky and then that pinball machine completely lights up and then they hand down charges against doctors, enablers, pharmacies. At the end, there wil be a number of people wearing striped pajamas."

He also tells us that it may "take a year, year-and-a-half to slam the folks they have as targets."


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:18 am ET

samantha.. Michael Jackson speech

March 5, 2009
Michael Jackson announced 02 concert in London
Michael Jackson only wanted to do 10 concert He was forced to do 50
London- Michael Jackson he is livid with concert promoter for booking to do 50 shows in London than 10 as he desired.
The king of pop made the revelation out side his La dance studio, telling fanxs he wanted to perform only a couple of concerts at 02 arena and spread the remaining shows all over the world.
The thriller hitmaker alleged he only came to know about the extra 40 booking s later and fears his small appetite may not allow him the stamina to perform on such massive scale.
Michael Jackson speech
Thank you for your love and support, I want you guys to know I love your very much. I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m not big eater, I need to put some” weight on” they quoted him as saying.
I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows in one place.
I went to bed knowing I sold 10 dates, and woke up to the news I was booked to s50,” he added.
Michael was due to kick off his much- awaited run at th are 20,000 – capacity venue on July 8
But the opening night of this “this is tour were pushed to july 13, while three other gigs, previously stated for jluy 10, 12, and 14 are not staged until March next year.


lex   August 19th, 2009 7:18 am ET

how is ian halperin a source he hates michael y is he anywhere near this investigation


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 7:30 am ET

@Linda,

Good idea! Let the Jacksons come over to the Holy Land. I am more than willing to show mrs. Jackson, when she is ready, the land where Jesus was born, served his ministry, died and according to her tradition was ressurected. I know some beautiful serene (not touristic) places where she can think, cry, wonder and worship.

For her it is important to stay close to Him whom she trusts completely and in Whose Hands she trusted her son to.

Morning girls!


Carol   August 19th, 2009 7:38 am ET

Larry I'M SORRY BUT WHO THE HELL is Ian whats his face...c'mon Larry please find a more credible source....everyone is finding out that this guy is a big fat liar ...Rolling Stone just put out a story on him, Geraldo wont have him back on the show...EVEN Roger Friedman who didnt like MIchael is speaking out against this nobody little time biographer....pfftt


lex   August 19th, 2009 7:42 am ET

cArol ian halperin is a fake writer dat wrote a book bout michael sayin dat he was gay he hates mj and writes lies bout him


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:42 am ET

Michael Jackson was murdered???
August 7, 2001
Michael Jackson- speech
“I’m not just fighting for myself, I’m fighting for all artist.”
“they have been taken by the system and totally broken them financially.”
“this has to stop this conspiracy.”
“I want you to know that this is very important what im’ fighting for.”
Because.. I’m really really tired of Manipulation, I’m tired of how the press manipulating everything what has been happening in the situation. They are not telling the truth. They manipulate our history books and history books are not true. The history book is a lie . You must know that. They start the records sell book. Which are the best selling records and the Guinness book of records straight?
Overnight they called me freak, a homosexual, child molester; they would say everything to turn the public against me.
This is complete conspiracy; it’s time for a change.
Despite all the efforts made to attack Michael and destroy his reputation and legacy he was still is the most popular pop star with millions, possibly billions of fans.
Not once did Michael get angry, he stayed calm, composed, cool and loved his fans from the bottom of his heart.

Chandler – child molestation
Michael Jackson – speech June 15, 2002
The tradition of great performer James brown, Jacky Wilson, Jim Kelly this groups were really worked hard but they’re craft, broken torn and they’re sad bon them they really do.
Sony, being an artist that I am, I generated several billions , we can’t let them get away with that tragedy.
Now I’m free agent, I just owe Sony one more album it’s just box it’s just two more songs which I written ages ago.
Because every album I record I write it literally, I write a hundred and 20 songs .. I can do many boxes.
I’m leaving sony, and im free agent. I own half of sony publishing and I’m leaving them . they were very angry with me, because I just did good business. So the way they get revenge they’re trying to destroy my album. As I saying good arts never dies. Please don’t video tape what I’m gonna say.. ok.. ok tape it I don’t mind..
Mariah Carey after divorced sometimes came to me, crying, crying so bad, I need to hold her.. she said to me, this is an evil man, and Michael this follow she said he is very evil man and horrible man . Continue our drive until he was terminated. We can’t allow him to do this to great artistry, we just can’t..
I want you to know that I appreciate everything you’ve done, you’ve done amazing..
But still.. I promise you the best is yet to come..
Michael Jackson was starting to talk too much, it was getting dangerous so he had to be stopped.
Almost everything told us by the mainstream media has been a lie. If Michael’s family were to speak out, you can only imagine they will be over killed and their deaths would be set up so it appears an accident or suicide. As if they couldn’t handle the emotional stress Michael’s death. The media can come up with hundreds of excuses, and the public would believe it.
DID TOMMY MOTTOLA HELP KILL MICHAEL JACKSON ?
everything happen in world of rich and famous people for sake of money and power!

As I suspected always behind all corruption in Italy mafia rich man with no heart seating as we saw so many god father movies are bully racist US police and one Italian group in New York and one black drugs husband of Bianca or similar are seating!!!One German manger and one Jewish lawyer to make good join venture. Muslim is out of this topic.
These needs to review all those accusing may organized crime. Who dress women naked and made them singer and drugs and destroy them anytime they want. Organized crime before in time of J. F. Kennedy just shoots the president in recent 10 years century find new way to do kill or destroy
first mentally their competitors and made them target and then kill them by doctors near them we can see case of Prince Diana last person saw him was doctor out of no where who stop to see her can also he put needle of alcohol to driver of Price Diana.
all accusing of Michael Jackson came from he start separated act against Tommy Mottola and he may involve in his MAY I said killing or destroying and using his all gun collection in New York and all mafia or all drug dealers to made up accusing because Michael Jackson start molesting himself and then marry that King's daughter and start naked and start acting white and blow up all fortune for his manager Tommy and not listen and always asked more money from Pepsi and Pepsi made up intentionally all those accident cause burn his scalp and Michael hair and Michael was mentally not right and eady to get victim by all bullys if not listen to him.
police in case of Michael Jackson was to reduce his sale and made him intentional bankrupt him which is join of bully white and Italian mafia way asking Michael if you get rich you must obey them or not go separate way or we have police friend to charge you something
And in addition in year 2003 Michael Jackson tried to bring young boys and girls to teach them new singer it means copy Tommy job too!!!
Tommy has motivation to destroy Michael Jackson too Michael was grid and rich and not follow certain rule and Tommy want his money share and force him to list or bankrupt or defame him
Italian mafia ways!! Michael problem was grid in money as his father teach him he was honest as his mother but he was act and dance dirty or naked and one day Muslim one day gay one white one black one day child liker and frick make him get easy to victim since he was simple mind while he was smart entertainment and want not share with other his wealth easy.
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Tommy Mottola vs. Michael Jackson

Tommy Mottola vs. Michael Jackson
Thomas Daniel "Tommy" Mottola is an American music executive, co-owner of Casablanca Records in a joint venture with the Universal Music Group. He is the former husband of singer Mariah Carey, and is currently married to Mexican singer Thalía. He headed Sony Music Entertainment, parent of the Columbia label, for nearly 15 years. He graduated from Admiral Farragut Academy.
He is widely well-known for signing, developing, and nurturing the careers of Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Destiny's Child/Beyoncé, Jennifer Lopez, Shakira, Gloria Estefan, Dixie Chicks, Marc Anthony, Barbra Streisand, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, among others.
Since leaving his post as chief of Sony Music, Mottola has been building a new entertainment company, complete with recorded music,
Apart from his experience in managing music outfits, Mottola is known as a mentor and former talent manager. His most famous protégés were Hall & Oates, Carly Simon, John Mellencamp,[1] Diana Ross, and Taylor Dayne in the 80s, Mariah Carey (his second wife) in the 1990s, Jessica Simpson and Jennifer Lopez in the early 2000s. Thalía (his third wife and a famous Mexican singer) and Tommy have just celebrated the birth of their first child together, a daughter, named Sabrina Sakae. (per Associated Press dated 10/9/2007)

Was the president of Sony Music Entertainment? Discovered Mariah Carey at a party, listened to her demo, and signed her to his record company
Leaves Sony to launch his own label. [9 January 2003]
Collects guns.
Converted to Judaism to marry first wife Lisa Clark.
Cousin of jazz guitarist Tony Mottola.
Dropped out of Hofstra University.
Six months in the planning, his wedding to Mariah Carey featured 50 flower girls, an 8 piece orchestra, a boys choir, and 300 guests including Barbra Streisand, Bruce Springsteen, Gloria Estefan, Michael Bolton, Christie Brinkley, Tony Bennett, Ozzy Osbourne, Robert De Niro and Michael Ovitz. The event reportedly cost $5 million.
He is Italian-American.
Discovered Hall & Oates. Other acts he guided during his tenure as head of Sony's U.S. operations include Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan, Jessica Simpson, the Dixie Chicks, and Destiny's Child. He, Thomas Daniel Mottola Jr. born on born 14 July 1949 in Bronx, New York, U.S.
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public in USA for singer and other are under question still who are these people who say women must act or dress like this and if not listen they will destroy them and made up MUSLIM fight now


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:53 am ET

i believed that all media was manipulated to destroy Michael Jackson.. media was controlled..


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:55 am ET

because Ian Halperin has a role.. in mafia.. conspiracy
this is how Ian Halperin script role. play and dance with Jackson family


Janice   August 19th, 2009 7:57 am ET

Who wants to read what Halperin says? The critics panned the book he wrote about Michael which apparently included claims that Michael was gay. Halperin also likes to boast that he predicted MJ's death. What a jerk!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 7:59 am ET

it's too obvious that Ian Halperin has a great role in this conspiracy..


mariau   August 19th, 2009 8:09 am ET

Jul 8 2002 5:37 PM EDT

Michael Jackson Shocks Al Sharpton By Calling Tommy Mottola A RacistSinger accuses Sony Music chairman of conspiring against black artists.
By Jennifer Vineyard

Michael Jackson took on Sony Music chairman Tommy Mottola this past weekend, accusing the head of his record company of being a racist and part of a racist conspiracy against black artists.

Though it was anticipated that Jackson would challenge standard practices of the music industry and champion artists' rights when he spoke at the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network in New York's Harlem neighborhood on Saturday, his personal attacks against the Sony executive came as a surprise, not least of all to Sharpton himself.

Most of Jackson's comments were constrained to the overall treatment of black artists, the struggle of whom he said he shared. The pop star compared his troubles with his record company to those of artists who struggled financially, saying that there was an "incredible injustice" taking place.

"The recording companies really, really do conspire against the artists," Jackson said. "They steal, they cheat, they do everything they can, especially [against] the black artists. ... People from James Brown to Sammy Davis Jr., some of the real pioneers that inspired me to be an entertainer, these artists are always on tour, because if they stop touring, they would go hungry. If you fight for me, you're fighting for all black people, dead and alive."

But Jackson may have taken a wrong turn when he turned the fight for him into a fight against Mottola. Claiming that Mottola had used the "N-word" to refer to an unidentified black Sony artist, Jackson singled out the company chairman for being "mean ... a racist ... and very, very, very devilish."

Those accusations expanded on previous comments Jackson had made at a fan club event in London on June 15, where he told the crowd, "Tommy Mottola is a devil." At that event, Jackson didn't address any aspects of racism, and he limited his remarks to his troubles with Sony, which he claimed had tried to destroy what was to have been his comeback album, Invincible, by failing to promote it.

According to sources close to the album, Sony spent $30 million to make Invincible and $25 million to promote it; only two singles and one video were released, however. And while Jackson did perform two high-profile anniversary concerts in September that were later televised (see "Michael Jackson Smooth At Tribute, But Wait Was Criminal"), he did not tour to support the album — another source close to the project said that Jackson refused to. Jackson also made few public appearances and granted even fewer interviews. Though Invincible sold an estimated 6 million copies worldwide and went double platinum in the U.S., it was not a blockbuster.

Still, the pop star has since escalated his troubles with his album sales and record company into an artist rights' issue, one that garnered him the support of not only Sharpton but also Johnnie Cochran (see "Michael Jackson, Al Sharpton, Johnnie Cochran Take On Labels"). While Sharpton still supports Jackson's view on the record industry overall, Sharpton told the New York Post that he was unaware that the pop star would vilify Mottola, an action he said was unfair and unfounded.

"He was the first record executive to step up and offer to help us with respect to corporate accountability, when it comes to black music issues," Sharpton told the Post. "I have known Tommy for 15 or 20 years, and never once have I known him to say or do anything that would be considered racist. ... I didn't know that Michael planned to personally attack Tommy, but nobody tells Michael Jackson what to do."

For its part, Sony was quick to defend Mottola as well, releasing a statement saying the company was bewildered by the pop star's remarks, which it called "ludicrous, spiteful and hurtful."

"We were deeply offended by the outrageous comments Mr. Jackson made during his publicity stunt this past Saturday," the statement reads. "The executive he attacked is widely supported and respected in every part of the music industry and has championed both Mr. Jackson's career and the careers of many other superstars. In launching an unfounded and unwarranted attack on this man's reputation, Mr. Jackson has committed a serious abuse of the power that comes with celebrity. The bizarre, false statements Mr. Jackson made on Saturday make it clear that his difficulties lie elsewhere than with the marketing and promotion of Invincible."

As the lines get drawn, Sharpton told the Post that he's already received a flurry of calls from top-level artists and producers upset with Jackson and coming to Mottola's defense, including producers Steve Stoute and Corey Rooney (Jennifer Lopez, Destiny's Child, Marc Anthony). It will soon be apparent whether Sharpton can separate Jackson's remarks about Mottola from the broader industry concerns their alliance is supposed to address, such as artist contracts and royalties, when National Action Network's Music Industry Initiative summit takes place Tuesday at NAN's New York headquarters.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 8:09 am ET

@Mariau, are these your own words and if so, what do you try to say? It is the Jews that killed him and not the muslims? I don't understand your point, maybe you can explain it?

I quote from above:

"As I suspected always behind all corruption in Italy mafia rich man with no heart seating as we saw so many god father movies are bully racist US police and one Italian group in New York and one black drugs husband of Bianca or similar are seating!!!One German manger and one Jewish lawyer to make good join venture. Muslim is out of this topic".


Sheletta   August 19th, 2009 8:10 am ET

Not interested in what this man has to say. He think's he has/had the insight on Michael. That is why no-one in the Jackson family did not want anyone to purchase his book (which I did not) because of all he suppose to know about. I. Halperin is no detective or DA, so what is saying hold no weight. He need's to keep his so call opinions to himself.


Diane Acampora   August 19th, 2009 8:11 am ET

To The Jackson Family,
I believe in my heart that Michael never molested any child and I would back him up any time. He was a kind person and I will never forget him. He's in my prayers every night.
Diane Acampora
Garfield,NJ


mariau   August 19th, 2009 8:16 am ET

eli
check this by michael-Kimber-Loblaw-case


Jamie   August 19th, 2009 8:27 am ET

Who cares?
Can't wait for Amanpour to report. I think she'll be able to go more than 30 seconds without needing a commercial break to be resuscitated/shocked back to life. Isn't it time he retired?


mariau   August 19th, 2009 8:27 am ET

AEG Teleworks, an affiliate of AEG, handles production, post production, off-site production, and telecast services for ABC, CBS, AND NBC according to their website. Not only that, but Bounce Event Marketing, another affiliate of AEG, handles marketing for SONY.


Anthony Smith   August 19th, 2009 8:39 am ET

I can't believe scum bags like Ian are still making money off of Michael Jackson. And Judge Larry Seidlin just seems like he's trying to extend his 15 minutes of fame.


Maria   August 19th, 2009 8:44 am ET

mariau, Mottola was dismissed from Sony in January 2003. His company was and is a rival of Sony. We are in 2009 now.

"all accusing of Michael Jackson came from he start separated act against Tommy Mottola and he may involve in his MAY I said killing or destroying and using his all gun collection in New York and all mafia or all drug dealers to made up accusing because Michael Jackson start molesting himself and then marry that King’s daughter and start naked and start acting white and blow up all fortune for his manager Tommy and not listen and always asked more money from Pepsi and Pepsi made up intentionally all those accident cause burn his scalp and Michael hair and Michael was mentally not right and eady to get victim by all bullys if not listen to him." – what is all this nonsense???

Seriously, folks, can't we talk at all WITHOUT using conspiracy theories? Aren't you fed up with recycling old news and believing either in death hoaxes or in Illuminati or mafia killings? So yesterday he was killed by AEG, today he was killed by Sony, probably tonight he will be alive again only because a troll tells so, or maybe John the Grumpy will come again to pretend that E-Casanova or other loser was in London instead of MJ and maybe that MJ was dead 5, 10 or 20 years ago.
And all is just because people see such things on youtube or on some blogs specialized in conspiracy theories. How come people are so suspicious about all the official media is saying, but they suddendly suspend all their critical judgement when it comes to conspiracy theories???


b   August 19th, 2009 8:47 am ET

Mariau – These are great articles. It seems like many people are connected. Ian Halperin said Michael had 6 months to live. And Murray was with Michael in his last month. Are they connected in any way?

Michael looked so adorable back in 1980's. Its sad he never felt good about his face. His face and his body was just perfect. I wish he knew how good looking he was.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 8:51 am ET

@Mariau, the moment I saw MJ calling Mottola the devil, I thought this might be backfired at him, at some point. I am not sure it would go that far as to murder.

I agree with Lisa S, it was an accident and Murray was wrong by administering the propofol in a home setting without proper equipment. How this plays out legally I don't know, but for sure he is trouble, either way.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 8:52 am ET

maria
because history.. repeat itself.. and this tragic death of Michael Jackson had history..

yes, maria i believed that Michael was murdered as i researched his previous tormented life there's big link about his death.
i don't believe in illuminati.. but i research and read about his life 5 years ago.

CNN will not deliverate all this conspiracy so i check out other sites.
and what's wrong?


John@HP ILL   August 19th, 2009 8:58 am ET

Apparently someone else let a cat out of the bag somewhere. On a site called Find A Grave, they do now have Michael Jackson listed as being already buired at Forest Lawn Glendale. Leads me to beleive that that is where he might have been all along after he went missing en route back to Hollywood Hills. I would venture to guess it takes time to build a sarcopihgus enought o hold either 3 to 8 persons. They would not list the information if it didn't already happen.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:00 am ET

WHO IS IAN HALPERIN?

Ian Halperin is a Canadian investigative journalist and writer from Montreal, Quebec, whose 2009 book, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson, went to number one on the New York Times bestseller list on July 24, 2009. He is the author or coauthor of nine books, including Celine Dion: Behind the Fairytale, Fire and Rain: The James Taylor Story and Hollywood Undercover. He coauthored Who Killed Kurt Cobain? and Love and Death: The Murder of Kurt Cobain with Max Wallace. Ian has contributed to 60 Minutes II and is a regular correspondent for Court TV.[1][2]

60 Minutes II, also known as 60 Minutes Wednesday and 60 Minutes (see Name changes), is a weekly primetime newsmagazine television program that was intended to replicate the "signature style, journalistic quality and integrity" of the original 60 Minutes series.

In late 2008 The Sun and In Touch Weekly cited Halperin as the source in articles stating that Michael Jackson had serious health issues.[3] In December 2008, Halperin had predicted that Jackson had six months to live;[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] Jackson died on June 25, 2009.[10] The BBC reported that Halperin will release an unauthorized biography on the pop star.[11] Halperin's statements had been denied by a Jackson representative, who said in a December 2008 statement, "The writer's wild allegations concerning Mr. Jackson's health are a total fabrication...Mr. Jackson is in fine health, and finalizing negotiations with a major entertainment company & television network for both a world tour and a series of specials and appearances".[12][13] Shortly afterward, Jackson announced a 50 date residency at The O2 arena, holding a public press conference before hundreds of the world's media.[14][15][16][17] Halperin released his biography on Jackson, titled Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson, in July 2009.[3] Halperin commented on the timing of the book: "I timed it because I knew around this time he was a candidate to die. I'm being totally up-front about that."[3]

It aired on CBS on Wednesdays, then later moved to Fridays at 8 p.m. The original 60 Minutes continued airing on Sunday nights throughout the run of 60 Minutes II.

The first edition of 60 Minutes II ran on January 13, 1999. Its final airing was September 2, 2005

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mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:02 am ET

b... please read WHO IS IAN HALPERIN? MAYBE YOU CAN RELATE


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 9:05 am ET

Mariau Thank you for the post above
Oliver Burkeman in New York, The Guardian, Monday, 8th, July 2002, 01.48 BST
This issue is documented in the press but it's strange that it didn't become a major global headline. There was much more coverage of George Michael's dispute with Sony.

Para 18 however says that Sony did not want to renew it's contract with MJ. It was actually MJ who didn't wish to renew his contract.

If anyone remembers Juniors posts he descibed Tommy Mattola's link with the mafia & MJ's worries about a "contract " on him.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:12 am ET

maureen
some of us.. bloggers not living in US and we couldn't relate especially to ABC, CBS, CNN AND OTHER NEWS NETWORK
because as we could see, media was controlled. so i did my homework to researched..
so i can understand.. about AEG, SONY, IAN HALPERIN.. SO I NEED TO READ AND RESEARCH FOR THIS PEOPLE. THAT WE DONT KNOW.
WE ARE NOT AMERICANS.. SO WE COULD FOLLOW THE TRAGIC DEATH OF MICHAEL JACKSON..


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 9:16 am ET

John,thats probebly wright.Wath do you think,whu is the one,whu dont gat plaece with the family?


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 9:18 am ET

Hi everybody

Mariau,i agree with you.If i would be not on this blog,i would no nothing about all of this peaples.Here the information is olmost=0


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:27 am ET

i love Michael Jackson, and i believed that he was a great man..
he was troubled because.. he was controlled..
i believed in his legacy, Michael was pure and innocent well being man.
i want to know him well more than an Icon " theKing of Pop".
now.. it's clear why there's NANCY GRACE, DIANE DIAMOND, IAN HALPERIN and other Media bashers.. now.. i totally understand why MJ"s album History..is not available in Paris and other part of Europe because Sony is controlling his album.. Michael was on debt because of this music industries.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:30 am ET

stu, how are you?
thanks.. because we're not americans and not living in US.. sometimes it's difficult to us to relate.. CNN will not tend to coverage all articles about Sony... that's why ... we're just asking a questions.. and we couldn't find answers too in this blogs.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 9:30 am ET

Oh Crikey! It cant happen soon enough!

Such controversy! Wish MJ would have had a more normal life!


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 9:35 am ET

Maria
Re Conspiracy theories.
There is a book written by Aphrodite Jones, on The Conspiracy Theory, (re MJ). It has been endorsed by MJ's defence lawyer, Tom Mesureau, and he's no fool ! As per usual, it did not gain much publicity, being out weighed by 101 silly stories about Mj at the time.
The other conspiracy theories: illuminatti, hoaxes etc are just rubbish.


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 9:42 am ET

Mariau
It's true, it's was difficult for people living abroad to know what was going on in the past for MJ because we didn't see as many interviews. I didn't know about the T. Mattolla business for years. As you know, the press has been under control to a large extent also.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:42 am ET

maureen,
some conspiracy.. just rubbish.. i agree with you..
but as i could see.. some were related..
i never believe in illiminati, hoaxes.. i believed to Michael speech..


mariau   August 19th, 2009 9:46 am ET

in fairness to those people who weren't there.. living in US


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 9:55 am ET

Mariau post 7.48 am link to clip
Did Tommy Mattolla help kill Mj
I notice the source of film is ITN Ind Television News, (UK), they're usually reliable. not in the "under control " press group.
I'm off now. Be back later.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 10:02 am ET

Good Morning everyone... WOW I sure hope there is truth to this headline!!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 10:05 am ET

maureen
yes.. it's from UK and not controlled.. they are reliable..
you remeber that Jackson family wanted to conduct 3rd autopsy of Michael. but its private investigator from UK. supposedly.. but the law enforcer in US.. didn't allow 3rd autopsy.. i heard that news from the Jackson lawyers.
but they said, still it's secret.. so the LAPD/DEA.. NEED TO DELAY THE RESULTS THEY WILL NOT RELEASE IT IN PUBLIC..


saudade, Holland   August 19th, 2009 10:11 am ET

Dear Mariau,

Thank you for all the information. This is very interesting.
The truth must come out, for sure.

Love


Luda   August 19th, 2009 10:12 am ET

Halperin is trying to give himself importance....

Good day everyone!


Luda   August 19th, 2009 10:21 am ET

Samantha, Halperin is an opportunist!

Shame on him.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 10:26 am ET

@Mariau, I think MJ would have liked you to worship Jesus instead. I know you have a good heart that aches, but MJ was not Jesus, he was human.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 10:26 am ET

This storie cant be falow.To much descrepensy and to complitated.Even,we talk about AEG,Sony,and all the peaples around it million times,we dont gat forword,couse we are just gessing.I cant vait finaly the police or the family say something official.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 10:28 am ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel
I WORSHIP GOD...


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 10:28 am ET

@Maureen,

Aphrodite Jones will be the next book I am going to read. I am still busy with Darwin Porter.


Lori   August 19th, 2009 10:29 am ET

Morning! Another day and more controversies. I actually saw a clip of this on the TV–I think Ian is out to sell books. I think Judge Larry wants to keep himeself in the public eye. But that is just my opinion.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 10:30 am ET

I am lissening to Jackson 5,its unbelieveble,how this litle boy could sing so wunderfull form heart.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 10:30 am ET

goodmorning lori


John@HP ILL   August 19th, 2009 10:32 am ET

Just to give all of you a little insight as to where Michael Jackson's final resting place will be, I took the time to find someone else in the area of Holly Terrace Go to Fnd A Grave and look up Otis A. Pritchett and click on the picture. Also to give a sense of what the inside of the The Great Masoleum looks like, also look up Howard Almanson or Johnny Guitar Watson. These names mean nothing else than to find the general area of where Mr. Jackson will be resting.

Cannot say for fact, but looking again at the video of Doctor, he is trying so hard to get out of a bag he cannot open. Maybe they did make him the Fall Guy and maybe someone else gave Michael Jackson something before the anesthesia or afterward. I saw a photograph in a magazine the other day and it showed that Michael Jackson had Orange Juice on his nightstand. Means nothing of course, but I also remember what Mikko Brando had said about Michael having Tea, something to eat and Orange Juice. Was he with Michael Jackson at his home when this food was being eaten or maybe just a coincidence?


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 10:36 am ET

Is this the person that wrote the book unmasked. Haven't bought it yet and if it all false, I don't want it.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 10:39 am ET

Hi John!
Thats wath i was think about.Now or this was exident,or somebody else did,couse i dont think,if somebody plane a murder,thann csan plane so stupid why full of mistake,like this.He said,he give Michael propofol in the lost 24 hours,but as we know,propofol is going out of the sistem fast,so,if he gat later something else,its not sure,its kiled Michael,couse he gat propofol that day.And olso,we dont know wath is the autophsy report.The media said all redy few version,and i guess,non of it was wright.
This guy is sceared to death.I can imagen,som fan would shut hem,or something.The police should work fast.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 10:44 am ET

@John@HP ILL

Michael and Johnny Guitar Watson would be a great couple. I love JGW.

Michael used to put alcohol in Coke cans, in order to hide alcohol in front of his children.


Lori   August 19th, 2009 10:45 am ET

@John–
thanks for your last post. You often have interesting information to share.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 10:47 am ET

We dont know,who was realy in that room.Maybe Muray left the room,couse he didnt give that propofol,so,he didnt need to be in that room.And all the guards and everybody else was work for AEG.Anybody elese could do it.Murey was not in the room,thann the murder went in,give shut hem off with some drog,and give the propofol.Perfect plan,and ofcorse,everybody blame Murrey.He dont iven know hem self,wath could happend,and the video tapes are missing.


Mara   August 19th, 2009 10:51 am ET

I don't think Miko was involved it was probably a coincidence.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 10:53 am ET

stu
so what about chef Chase- is she lying too?

Jackson’s chef on LKL last: MJ house was a happy place

Chase said she was downstairs preparing lunch for Jackson — being sure to wrap it in Saran wrap because the singer liked his meals served room-service style — when Dr. Conrad Murray called out for her. Murray is the central focus of a federal investigation into the singer’s death, a law enforcement official told CNN on Wednesday.

Around noon or a little after, Chase said, “Dr. Murray comes down the stairs. There was a stairwell that leads into the kitchen. And he’s screaming: Hurry! Go get Prince. Call security. Get Prince.”

Chase said she quickly got Jackson’s oldest son.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 10:54 am ET

mara
me too.. i dont think Miko..


Maria   August 19th, 2009 10:57 am ET

The culprit in Aphrodite Jones' book is not Sony (or other corporate entity, or Mottola personally), but the media in general. Neither she, nor Mesereau endorsed the fans' idea about a corporate conspiracy to destroy MJ.
Says she: "Ironically, if a conspiracy did exist against Jackson, perhaps it was being led by former employees with personal agendas, fueled by unusual houseguests who wanted to cash in, and fortified by certain members of law enforcement who had their own egotistical reasons for wanting to tear Jackson down."
And indeed, I've never read anything more wicked and outrageous than what the former employees of MJ had to say about him, from Bob Jones and Stacy Brown to Adrian McManus and the like. They are among the main sources used by yellow press and worthless books and "unathorized biographies".


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 10:57 am ET

@John,

I looked up Johnny Guitar Watson. It's a beautiful entrance at Holly Terrace. Now I know what it means that the Jacksons want to be buried there, they are in crypts, so plenty of space.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:00 am ET

No,she don lie.She actualy didnt see anything.She only said,in that morning the dr didnt come down,but she cant go upsters.

She only knows,that Murey was strat to cream and gat in panic.

But yes,thats not correct.Why Murey didnt go down to gat breckfast,and why he called the woomans to come,and gat the boxes.But then again.Why he would need 5 houres before he finaly call 911?He could fix things fast,and hes plan would be better.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:02 am ET

stu,
so Murray was there in front of Michael's body...


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 11:06 am ET

Eli. Is it a secure place where no one can disturb Micheal?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 11:08 am ET

If you want more about stars at Glendale, you can find a nice website on seeing-stars


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:08 am ET

If it was Murey,thann i think,he didnt plan it,he did a misstake with propofol,and thann he should pay for it.But i dont think,if it was Murey,tenn AEG or Sony would be behinde it,couse it dont look lika a planed murder.Tomuch misstake...


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:10 am ET

Murray speech

“I have done all I could do,” Murray said. “I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail.”

“I want to thank all of my patients and friends who have sent such kind e-mails, letters and messages to let me know of your support and prayers for me and my family,” Murray said.

“Because of all that is going on, I am afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail, therefore, I recorded this video to let all of you know that I have been receiving your messages,” he said.

“I have not been able to thank you personally, which, as you know, is not normal for me,” Murray said in the video. “Your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. They mean the world to me. Please, don’t worry. As long as I keep God in my heart and you in my life, I will be fine.”

Did Murray clarify the actual event on June 25, 2009 of what happened that day? NO

Did Murray explain the facts how Michael Jackosn died?NO

Did Murray explain he left Michael's body? NO

Did Murray explain why he was delayed TO CALL 911?NO

Did Murray explain why just now he speaks after 2 months?NO


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:11 am ET

Yes,he was with the body,,if he was a vake...Maybe he didnt see wath happend,if he was sleeping.Maybe he gat som drog too.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:11 am ET

Maria
So the LAPD could be in on it to destroy him? I guess its no surprise that they are trying to cover up the actual murder, and are making it look like he was a drug addict, and soley investigating that. I still think his staff were getting alot of those drugs for themselves or selling them without his knowledge. Do you know how much demerol alone would sell for on the street? And the LAPD make it so flipping obvious too. The way they treated him through his trial, and we're suppose to trust them now? Not likely that I will trust them too much. Could that be why the one guy resigned?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 11:14 am ET

@Patty yes, try to find it at Find a grave. If you look for Johnny Guitar Watson, you will end up at the entrance of the Holly Terrace, the Terrace where MJ is supposed to be buried. If you look well, you can see a wall full of marbled crypts, 5 layers or so. The crypts cannot be visited but Forest Lawn says on it's website the Great Mausoleum can be visited to look at a copy of The Last Supper and The ressurection. So one is able to get a glimpse of the atmosphere, though not of Michael's final resting place itself.

I regret that I will not be able to see it with my own eyes because it is private, but you know, it is also a test for G'd fearing people: we must believe though we cannot see. Just like we have to trust MJ's soul is in G'ds hands. As a Jew I personally would have favored a burial in the ground, for a burial ground is more biblical than entombing or putting in a crypt, let alone a cremation, but in the end, well, G'd doesn't matter, I guess.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:17 am ET

If i put tugeather the peases,i think,it was Murey,but not planed,it was a misstake with the propofol.If he would plan,he would not doo somuch misstake,so maybe AEG is not behinde.But the insurance is strange.Why thay inshured Michael for overdose?

We dont know,what Murey said to the police...Thay dont let out nothing,and wath tha media say,its far from being sure true.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:17 am ET

toni
it seems to me it was framed up.. that demero drugs and other drugs they found in MJ's mansion.
2 days after they've been investigates the mansion house of MJ..
it could be possible.. that all drugs was just set up. to destroy Michael.
because.. if MJ really died for overdose drugs why it took them so long to find out what drugs caused MJ's death.
look at Heith ledger, and anna nicole. after 2 weeks.. declared.. overdose.
i guess it's all set up and framed up..


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:20 am ET

Yeah,to trust LAPD after how thay was treat and hurt Michael....I would not.And only thing i see from tham,its thay try to pruve MJ was addictid.But i dont here a word,how he could be addictid to this kinde of medications...I think LAPD is corrupt.But we will see...


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:22 am ET

Yes Mariu,2 days after!And thay went to Murey 1 month later...This is not investigateing...This is hideing.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:24 am ET

And i dont even know,how much the family can be trust.Thay look,only try to make out of Michael


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 11:25 am ET

The Great Mausoleum stars and pics at seeing-stars


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:25 am ET

stu
got your point and maybe it's true.. and the word BRIBERY it's existed in US.. maybe


spirit   August 19th, 2009 11:27 am ET

I want all those who contributed to MJ's death (whether voluntarily or involuntarily) brought to book... They should be indicted and soon... I'm actually surprized at Conrad Murray's strange behaviour... Disappearing and now popping up with a video on Youtube... Have a heart bloke! U should have behaved in a responsible manner instead of being focussed on treating MJ as an ATM card for yourself... If you were & are innocent then face the public & media... Why go in hiding?

MJ was one in a billion... a star par excellence... He is sorely missed...
Rest in peace! lots of love!


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:28 am ET

Thats why I said that they make it sooo obvious. The 5 injection marks on Michaels neck { that magically doesnt get mentioned anymore}, they dont secure the house for 2 days, and are ONLY investigating how many pills Michael supposedly took and how many aliases he sopposedly used. Michael would have had no need to have any pain med or anxiety med before going under anesthesia. So if anything other than Diprivan was in his system, it was put there intentionally { and not by Michael}. MO


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:30 am ET

stu
that's why this very taugh case because lots of people involved in this case.
this article is right because this MJ's case maybe take a years to resolve.
and if Jackson family will dig deeper and will seek justice.. then there's big possibility to catch them.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 11:30 am ET

Thank you Eli. We all know the beautiful person Micheal was. I truely believe Micheal is in the heaven's with God.. As someone stated a couple days ago,, he's dancing and singing for all the angels.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 11:32 am ET

Toni you think they are still investigating all that, I thought we heard they only found Xanax and Diprivan in his system


Jacquelyn   August 19th, 2009 11:32 am ET

Murray looked scared in this vid. Maybe just maybe he had no intentions of doing it. There could be more that meets the eye. Remember if higher figures are involved, Murray is just a pawned in their game. Yes Murray did alot of stupid mistakes that night, but also its almost a little to perfect if you ask me. If those figures are involved and he knows it he needs to start talking and fast.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 11:33 am ET

@ mariau! Yea I agree there... Murray was all about himself in that video... He didn't even mention MJ... Wow! what honesty to his profession!


sarah   August 19th, 2009 11:33 am ET

wow , this investigation is getting weird and spooky everyday, i wonder if any charges were going to be brought to the doctor, or who ever was involved in the death of MJ !!!

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:34 am ET

I'm not sure if it was intentional on Murry's behalf, but I do think he was caused the death by stupidity and covered it up by injecting drugs, and the LAPD are taking advantage of the situation to their own satisfaction. But, they are pretty stupid for thinking people dont see it.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 11:37 am ET

According to the moderator of the Glendale celebrity website, Michael's resting place will be inaccessible.

He writes:

"and now, it appears,superstar Michael Jackson will join them in relative obscurity, lost to the public in the ghotic, guarded corridors of the Great Mausoleum. In my opinion, it's an odd choice of a final resting spot for a man whose greatest joy seemed to be basking in int's public adoration".

I can recommand this website, it has 4 pages and a lot of info.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 11:37 am ET

I agree Jacquelyn. I thought he looked very scared and nervous. He never showed any remorse for what he did. Not mentioning anything about Micheal also bothered me.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:42 am ET

Jacquelyn, yeah I still think it goes MUCH higher. I still cant believe Michael { himself } would bring back sooo many people he had fired and had conflict with, 1mth to 2 wks before his death, no family could see him, all the weightloss in 1 mth, his saying to Kai AND his shrink that they were trying to kill him etc. Alot of time and thought was put into this......4 years in the making, when the molestation trial failed.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 11:45 am ET

Toni,and what about the Murpin song?

I am wundering,if LAPD is hiding ,how Michael realy died,and in the and will be no guilty one,thann wath we can doo with tham corruption?I guess,nothing...


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:46 am ET

AND, another will could have very well been in that safe. And as for Mrs, Jackson, I think she loves Michael very very much and yes she wants her sons estate to keep making money, what mother wouldnt, but She is only wanting to protect what her son sacrificed his whole life for. As for some other members of the family....thats questionable.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 11:48 am ET

John @ HP ILL

I went to Find a Grave and the place looks very nice, although you can visit the Great Mausoleum just not where the people are buried....there is the Last Supper Window and Michaelangelos painted ceiling. Close enough! It's part of a tour.

Looks peaceful and at least he wont be buried underground....as he once said he didn't want to be buried!!!


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 11:50 am ET

I think they should restore Neverland as it was, put back his furniture and artifacts, that are in storage, and open up to public as a museum of some sort. Hope the family thinks of something like this, just like Elvis, except he would not be buried there!


Maria   August 19th, 2009 11:50 am ET

Toni: we cannot accuse the LAPD of 2009 based on what certain policemen may have done years ago.
About the staff.. of course absolutely anything can come from their mouths. Read, for example, the Daily Mail article about the last hours of MJ's life, written by the same omniscient Ian Halperin – "Reading the Bible, listening to the Gipsy Kings". And then figure out how such testimonies can influence the investigation on Dr Murray.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:51 am ET

Eli, what is the website?

Stu, put it this way.....I'm glad i am not under the LAPD's watch. I wouldnt feel to safe. Definately not the first time they have been blaimed for corruption!!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 11:55 am ET

stu
Morphin song-1997
1997- this was after his scalp surgery.. and went rehab in london


Toni   August 19th, 2009 11:57 am ET

I'm not blaming the whole dept. But how do we know that some of those same officers arent on this investgation.
And how in the hell does moron Halperin know what Michael was doing in his last hours? That guy needs to get a life. His meal ticket is dead now. Lets just hope he doesnt start on Michaels children now.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 11:59 am ET

Toni. That's intersting about the LAPD.....

I agree with you about the oter members of the family being questionable....

Just saw on the news that LaToya recently did a sit down interview with EXTRA!!!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 12:07 pm ET

stu,
see how they manipulated the media.. that song was played on CNN just to remind us that Michael was an addict so they convinced the people to believed that he died in overdose or any drugs.
1997 morphine song.. and relate it to MJ's caused of Death,.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 12:10 pm ET

so, Michael's crypt will be inaccesible?


Toni   August 19th, 2009 12:11 pm ET

Patty, I dont know about all the family members. I think Michael was close to Randy, and Tito seems genuinely sincere and hurt, but Im only focusing on the children and the hell Mrs. Jackson is being faced with. She is thinking as a son, not a superstar. I think burying him out of sight like this is undoubtedly sad to some of us, but I think she just wants to protect her son from the media and public that demeaned him. So I kind of try to understand her decision, but I do hope some kind of tribute site will be made. And I think it will, they just need time to think of the right kind of place and where.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 12:11 pm ET

Maria u–than you for the artile

Hi everybody


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

I know Mariau... It makes me sick... Micheal has gone and all they can keep doing is making him look was he was the awful person....

There's only been a handful that has said anything nice about Micheal....

Such a cold world we live in that they cannot see the good.... I don't believe Micheal was on all those drugs.....

His nutritionist said Micheal stated with the economy and all he wanted to make sure he had everything...... Micheal was stock piling incase he needed something.....


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

The Jackson Family just needs to stop talking. Period. When are they going to see the media for exactly what they are. I just don't get it.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 12:20 pm ET

Hi Linda

Toni: I completely agree with you about Katherine....

I believe there are a few family members that stand completly behind Micheal as well. However I also see what a couple of them are doing and it's just not cool.....

Katherine needs all the strenght she can get.. I really feel for and I know she is keeping Micheals best interest as a son first in mind..... I pray she has enough support to keep her strong..... So much on her plate.....


sarah   August 19th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

yah, they should have buried MJ without making any public announcement ..they don't want public burial so why making it public !!! Don't understand .>>...

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !! PEACE


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Toni–I agree with you that it is the best decision. The media does not need to have access to anything. they wil plasterl pictures all over the newspapers, internet and Television. Michael Jackson certainly doesn't need to be demeaned in death the he was by them in life. I do think the family will probably place for fans to pay their respects because they know how much Michael loved his fans and how much we loved him back.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 12:23 pm ET

very much obvious covering up Dr. Murray
then tell me what's going on around here CNN?

AUGUST 18, 2009
Dr. Murray - spoke

August 16, 2009- BLAME MICHAEL JACKSON NOT HIS DOCTOR
by Joal Ryan via E! Online

Call it the ultimate whodunit twist: Michael Jackson did it.

As famed attorney Mark Geragos told E! News, a Jackson homicide trial in which Dr. Conrad Murray is the defendant may well turn into a forum in which Jackson himself is on trial.

“Ultimately, that may be what the defense is,” Geragos said.

Don’t go there, you say? Don’t blame the victim, you cry?

You may be right. But if a lawyer is potentially going to go there, then we’re going to go there first. Just to wrap our minds around the concept: Michael Jackson. Responsible for his own death.

Now, criminally speaking, Jackson, by virtue of being dead, is in the clear. While dead guys are dead, they’re also beyond the reach of the law.

But what if Jackson weren’t dead?

What if the events leading up to this past June 25 occurred exactly as they occurred with one exception: Jackson doesn’t die. Maybe he’s revived in the ambulance. Maybe he’s revived at the hospital. In any case, he’s alive.

And it’s his turn to face the music. For doctor shopping, maybe.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

Im sure she has the other childrens support, plus many older grandchildren that adored their uncle. But, I think she definately needs public support. Unfortunately, we dont know what kind of public support she is getting. I wish I was a fly on the wall at Hayvenhurst right now, but my luck, someone would swat me. 🙂


spirit   August 19th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

@ Toni! I agree with you there that the only ppl who can be genuinely concerned with MJ are his mother and his children... about the rest we can't say anything for sure...
But I would always want to go and visit his burial place...which fan wouldn't!!! ... But yea perhaps Mrs. Jackson want to save her son from the media and part of the public that tried to demonize him... One thing is for sure though... THOSE WHO DID THAT WERE AND WOULD NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL! MJ is loved worldwide by his billions of fans... No one can take that away from him...


Jacquelyn   August 19th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Regarding the family members, they will never be able to please the public to your liking. Whether they stop talking period or continue to speak people will always judge them anyway. It will always be a non-win situation. So whatever they say all do, people will always question it.


sarah   August 19th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

well SAID Spirit !!!!

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !! PEACE


Gloria   August 19th, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Toni: First let me say I agree with your theories. The LAPD Chief resigned, not just "some officer".... something smells to me right there. The biggest investigation of his lifetime and he resigns.
The LAPD already botched this whole thing: not taping off the house immediately after MJ died. The staff was there while MJ was at the hospital and all the while until Thome Thome fired them all (at least that is what my understanding is). The family was there (I think the next day) "with moving trucks" clearing the place out.... How can there ever be a good investigation of what "could have been the crime scene?" Then after two days, LAPD tapes off the house? What for guys? Evidence all went away by then... could be that's why this is taking so long. The LAPD had to try to work off the evidence that the coroner's office produced and recreate what "might have happened".... just another theory....


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 12:32 pm ET

Excellent point Jacquelyn


mariau   August 19th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

gloria
yes.. maybe.. it's true


sarah   August 19th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Only if Michael was little bit careful or responsible none of this would ever happened, fans would be enjoying his 02 concerts..... All this investigation, media twisting things up, its going to be a long long road ahead !!!!! Just hope that LAPD would just bring those who were responsible for all this !!!

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!!!! PEACE


Toni   August 19th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

There has been so much speculation about the burial, maybe they just want the fans and public to actually see that it is indeed taking place, but we will not be able to see past a certain point. Maybe its their way of allowing us a little part of the burial. If it is aired on tv {which I'm sure it will be }, once we see the hearse for the last time, arent some of us going to have some kind of relief that he is now safe from the media and scrutiny, and nobody can hurt him anymore? My parents are buried in Missouri, and I only get to visit every 2-3 yrs, but I talk to them everyday and feel their presence.
Just because Michael is out of our sight, he's still in our hearts. His children will be able to visit him whenever they want now, with no disruption and I myself am happy for that.


Katielynn, CT   August 19th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

Its impossible to draw conclusions absent facts. We do however have opinions. I suspect we will never know all of the facts surrounding Michael's death. I suspect the doctor attempted to cover up the death long before he called for help. I suspect his negligence caused the death of our beloved Michael – I wonder how he lives with himself; it can't be easy. I hope Kathryn can get control of Michael's estate and I'm happy for his children that she has custody.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

@ sarah! Its nice to see that people from Pakistan are speaking up on behalf of their beloved star, MJ that is... I'm from Pakistan too... That goes out to prove that MJ was loved worldwide and had an international reach that many other stars can only dream of...
He transcended boundaries, cultures, races... who else can boast of that! & yet ppl demonized him...No wonder he was haunted by the 'ghosts of jealousy'...
Rest in peace!


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 12:46 pm ET

Mariau,wath you meen with this?


Toni   August 19th, 2009 12:46 pm ET

Odd how nobody from Vienna has been heard from????


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

Amen Toni and good point. Are they still planning that concert??


spirit   August 19th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I'm with you Katielynn that the doctor's negligence caused the death of our beloved Michael... & I also agree with Tony that though 'Michael is out of our sight, he’s still in our hearts'... He will always be! But still listening to his songs and watching his videos bring tears to my eyes... Can't help missing him so much... After all he ruled the music industry for so long... Its not easy digesting that we can't see him any more...


mariau   August 19th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

if we are all here is confused and frustrated.. what about Mrs. Jackson???

my heart goes to Mrs. Jackson.. i hope she's strong and in good health. and also to Michael's children..
i just hope that justice will be done..


mariau   August 19th, 2009 12:55 pm ET

spirit
well said..


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 12:56 pm ET

Why the media working so hard on pruveing that Michael was addictid?Tha LAPD maybe pay them?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

@Toni,

I have tried to give more words on the website, but LKL won't take links at the moment. Just try to google seeing stars glendale or something.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

mariau
I think the "justice" thing is a long shot at this point, but I'm still hoping and praying, for Michaels sake.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

@ Lora Ottawa Canada,

Where can I find that MJ did not want to be buried?


joe   August 19th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

duh, we knew that in the beginning!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

stu
Media and LAPD were family. . they joined force together..


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

thnx for your earlier posts mariau... They were really insightful! My thoughts with MJ's mother and children too...


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Just thinking about the molestation trial.....he never really got justice there, because he was still looked at as a child molester.
And thinking back on other things he has been put through, I don't think Michael ever got "Complete Justice" for anything. Somehow he was still blamed for everything.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

toni
please say we hope.. we hope and pray..


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Eli,i think,it was in the Bashir interview wit Michael.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

mariau
Yes I do ....I hope and pray everyday!!!!! 🙂


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

@Toni,

I agree, i think the family needs time to decide what to do about some kind of memorial place. I am still not ruling out he will be moved over time, though the chances are small, especially when they bought the whole lot.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:08 pm ET

Yes Toni.In the 2. child molestation why Michael didnt soo them for libel?He would vinn that,that would be justice.But the 1. kave he scrouled up with that,he payed them


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

Eli

In Bashir interview episode when they go to Las Vegas and MJ brings Bashir shopping and they were looking at an egyptian sarcophagus and Bashir found it strangethat MJ liked that sort of thing and asked him how he would like to be buried... MJ replied that he did not want to be buried.....he wanted to live forever.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

O plz don't mention that bashir interview... that was one heck of a negative portrayal that MJ got at the hands of media...


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

toni
since from the very beginning.. Michael was framed up
with this 2 child molestation case.. and it's ruined his career..
"their only target was to convinced people to turn against MJ"
and he was just a fallstar...
and end of his career.. they've been doing that for almost 15 years.
but.. Michael Jackson was well protected.. God protected him... in so many ways...
Despite all the efforts made to attack Michael and destroy his reputation and legacy he was still is the most popular pop star with millions, possibly billions of fans.
and i'm heart broken... because.. Michael had never got a chance to be happy.. he was just human and deserves to be happy..


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

So well said Mariau


sarah   August 19th, 2009 1:15 pm ET

Finally, both these doctors are guilty and should pay for what they have done !!! Its just so heart breaking

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

only manslaughter? thats not good.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 1:17 pm ET

@Stu,

But what did he want then? Cremation, no?


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:18 pm ET

Ori
Thank you for the artile


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

Wow Lori thanks for that. I always had my concerns about Klein.

Wasn't said somewhere a couple of weeks ago Micheal went there to sleep??

I too believe this was a gimmick form Murray.... He's scared and knows he screwed up!!!!


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

Lori
Thank you for the article–


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

The stupid Bashir usked hem,if he whant to lay in this,whenn he die,couse he was buying it.And thenn Michael said,no,he dont whant to lay in it,he dont whant to die ,he whant to live forewer.He just liked it,like every other beautifull antik.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Mariau
what else they could do but frame him up! After all he was the biggest star of all times... As he said sumwhere himself 'the bigger the star, the bigger the target"...
But what is heartrending is that the man who believed so much in the goodness of humanity suffered so much at the hands of his own ppl... He who brought joy to the unknown millions was so unhappy himself that he couldn't sleep... It is this that hurts... All we can do is pray for this wonderful and strong human being who showed us what it means to show grace under pressure... I really marvel at this man that despite having gone through so much he never turned bitter towards anyone and had undying faith in goodness and the prevailing of truth till his death...


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Soooo, Murray cant check his emails, but............he thanks his supporters for all of their EMAILS and calls of well wishes. LOL, did I get that right??


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

Eli,i think,he didnt whant eny of them.He didnt whant to die at all.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

@Eli
This is just my opinion, I don't know that he wanted to be cremated; sometimes when people say they don't want to burid-it usually means that they want to be above ground.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

lori
thanks for the article... they're making progress..


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

Toni 😀 You are a genius! 😀 😀 😀


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

@ Mariau

Yes I knew that Michael was not happy doing these 50 concerts and if you watched the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer sometime last month,he interviewed Brian Monroe from Ebony Jet magazine who was the last person to have interviewed Michael,he said that initially it was meant to be 10 concerts,then as a result of the overwhelming response,Michael agreed to do 31 instead but this was later changed to 50 and Brian's exact words was that "Michael flipped out" when he heard about this.

Though the reason why I posted the excerpt below is because if you read CAREFULLY,it mentions something about a VIDEO that was supposedly posted on you tube a few weeks before Michael passed away and it shows him talking to fans outside a studio in Burbank,CA and being angry about doing the 50 upcoming shows and that he was unsure how he would get through it saying that he had to put on weight.Now the TWIST is that the video 'mysteriously' DISAPPEARED after June 25th and has not been located up to this day!If this has been 'conveniently' deleted then it must've been pretty INCRIMINATING because it CONTRADICTS Frank DiLeo and AEG who both INSISTED that it was Michael himself who 'agreed' to do the 50 shows and apparently was by no means 'forced' into it and furthermore when Larry asked DiLeo about Michael expressing his frustration about the grueling schedule saying that "they are killing me" to Leonard Rowe in a telephone conversation,DiLeo 'denied' it!

"The week after Michael passed there was a video on you tube of Michael speaking to fans outside the Burbank’s studios in late May or early June. In this video Michael talked about being angry with the promoter (AEG) for booking him up to 50 shows. He also stated HIMSELF that he didn’t know how he would do it as he wasn’t a big eater and he would need to put some weight on.
This video has since been removed. Erased. Hidden.
I watched this video with my own eyes and I have emailed news sites everyday asking them to locate this video, but we know they never will, as they are part of the cover up
Does any have a copy of this video? Was anyone there when Michael said these things?
We can’t keep letting them get away with murder because it suits their pocket books and evil plans.
Please, if anyone else knows of Michael saying these things, email all the news outlets. Lets force the truth out from hiding for once!”

THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS WHY DID THE VIDEO DISAPPEAR AFTER 25 JUNE 2009?


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

toni
“Because of all that is going on, I am afraid(BECAUSE I KILLED MICHALE JACKSON) to return phone calls or use my e-mail, (AEG/SONY CONTROLLING ME)
therefore, I recorded this video( BECAUSE I’M AFRAID OF INTERROGATION) to let all of you know that I have been receiving your messages,”( THAT I KILLED MICHAEL JACKSON) he said.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

@ Toni
yea u got that right! That was a good point!


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

You have it correct Toni....

Supposedly his lawyers are recieving 30-40 calss a day with prayers and support for him...

He has told the truth......


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

He states GOD is in my heart and the truth will prevail...

Sounds like Micheals words to me...


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

samantha..
honestly..because someone's controlling it.. like oprah.. youtube interview with Michael.. they remove it...
the question here.. who is controlling this media mainstream???
i guess that's the big question..


Tina (Germany)   August 19th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

There is a commercial on TV in Germany that containes a nice phrase about what people leave on earth when they are gone. I try to translate it. "Keeping the legacy doesn't mean to store the ashes but rather to pass over the fire to the next generation"

Think that makes sense.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

mariau
So very much true. Thank God for being there for him time and time again. They will all have to face God sometime, and when they do.....those gates won't be wide open like they were for Michael. They will ALL pay in good time.And when Murray gets out of prison { if he even goes } his life is over anyway. People that loved Michael will not let this man, or Klien for that matter, live a moments piece. Tey both met their matches when they screwed with Michael Jackson fans!! 😀


jessica   August 19th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

Samantha, I too saw that video of Michael saying those things. That he didn't have a big appeitite and that AEG wanted him to do 50 shows. I think Ian Halperin mentions that in his book and in interviews so it isn't being hidden. Can someone confirm if Ian H. did say this.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

Excellent Toni... They sure did!!!


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

Mariau–I like that twist with Murray's words


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

@ Samantha
Yea where did that video disappear? U saw that urself? Its really strange then...


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

toni
very well said... and nice smile...


jessica   August 19th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

IAN HALPERIN is just trying to keep his face and name in the news and public, so people will remember it and buy his PIECE OF CRAP /TABLOID TRASH BOOK. The best thing we can do is to ignore him and not give him any credance or any attention for that matter.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

Toni
You got that right; I think that they really thought that Michael's fans had abandoned him and that it would fall right under the rug–Boy, were they wrong–They had no idea that his true fans never believe any of those lies and how much Michael was loved by us.


jessica   August 19th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

Rhonda, How do you get to your site on Michael. It sounds great. Can you give me the link. Thanks Jessica


Mila   August 19th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

Guys, these blogs are becoming difficult to manage and very unreliable – I've seen comments disappear and I've heard other people reporting the same too.

I already posted one blog there with the title "To buy it is to feed it" and I just created another entry called "Michael vs Sony: What really happened ?" which is a placeholder for a discussion on this topic.

Please, feel free to visit the space and leave your comments. You can also blog about it in your own spaces and your blogs will be added as links to the fan club.

I have also added news feeds, a books list and a radio to the space.


sarah   August 19th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

I wonder if INFORMER going to shed light on this matter ????

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

tina germany
well said... amen.. PASS IT ON....

I KNOW I'M TOO MUCH.. BUT JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO SMILE

“I told the truth and I have faith the truth will prevail.”

murrays.. one of his commandments

‘THOUGH SHALL NOT KILL.. IF THEY PAY ME.. THOUGH SHALL NOT REFUSE”


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

And Patty! yea... Murray does try to copy MJ by saying that 'GOD is in my heart and the truth will prevail…' The whole idea of appearing on video and the words he used were taken frm MJ... He should understand that he is no MJ...so he better cut it out... Moreover if he so believes in truth he should have said it in that video clip of his instead of beating about the bush and harping on the tune of receiving msgs and emails that he is getting...


Jacquelyn   August 19th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

You know what if and when they arrest Klein as well, I can almost guarantee he will make life very hard for the Jacksons and especially the kids. He saw Michael at his worst, he will try to destroy him. But in the end Klein will look like the biggest fool. I wonder if he still filing those papers on September 1 and what is so special about that day. Is that the day he is going to be sitting in Jail?


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Evening everyone
Samantha, South Africa

Re 50 concerts
Yes, I remember L.Rowe saying on LKL, " MJ told me, he didn't want to do 50 concerts, can you help me out with this, spread them out ." Rowe had a contract saying he was MJ's manager.
How did DeLeo become manager ? Because AEG were controling everything & they wanted Rowe out of the way, to replace him with DeLeo.
We need to find that film clip.


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Samantha
God girl, you need to keep searching for that video. I knew nothing about that. That in its self is the smoking gun!!! I wonder if anyone has it in another country. Hey everyone, check it out in your own countries and see if we can find it!!!!

Hey CNN....you could do a little investigating as well. Do something for Michael for a change. Be the hero of the news networks instead of playing into deceptive hands.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

linda from new york
i'm with you 100%


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

hi jacquelyn
i'm with you also... well said.. about klein.. make me smile..


John@HP ILL   August 19th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

I also surveyed the Great Masoleum Utility area and this appears more secure and private although not as luxurious. It is way into the bowels of the Masoleum itself, extremely inaccessable without a guide. Looked at the pictures, reminds one of a very old and very dismal area.

In my estimation I do not beleive that Michael Jackson will be that hidden, perhaps he will be behind a wrought iron gate in an area that houses 8 to 10 crypts with a lock, perhaps on the marble floor in a sarcophugus; I detest that word perferring intombment. It is against the law to open a gated area, but nothing would hurt if one perhaps laid flowers at the foot of the gate of his entrance.

Good judgement tells me that there are in fact 2 seperate discoveries going on that are both related to Michael Jackson. His prior Doctors, ect. and the task at hand of the Doctor. Maybe he made the video knowing full well he is going soon. His attitude smacks between egotisical, moronic and messing his pants. Maybe he was promised something and those other person feinged on him. One will probably never know, but we do know for how long his snarly mess will go to prison, perhaps not as long as the public would like. I know where he could get a job while in there, a death chamber at some prison, maybe Angola as he knows how to do the deed.


spirit   August 19th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

yup agreed... find that video plz


sarah   August 19th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

what Video are you looking for TONI ????

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Toni   August 19th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Ive gotta go for awhile. I am sooo neglecting my children and housework. TTYL. 🙂


Cocovelvet   August 19th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

Hi everybody ,

Tina (Germany)....danke schon, ganz genau......

This money-hungry idiot Halperin really nerves.......why can't he look for another way of making money !!!????. I had already thought what a damn fool he is when he made that statement in one of those videos that since MJ's death, he changed the concept of his book from a negative perspective towards a positive one; I've never heard of such a piece of s...t in my life.

He had to take that stance ofcourse coz he is just like all those money-hungry vultures out there who are trying to make money out of MJ. YOU FOOL...GO LOOK FOR A JOB AND EARN YOUR OWN LIVING NOT THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

mila, thank you for that link.. we know that.. these blogs are becoming difficult to manage and very unreliable – I’ve seen comments disappear and I’ve heard other people reporting the same too.
sure we are..

WE WERE BLOGING CNN EVEN THOUGH UNRELIABLE.. OUR MAIN REASONS WHY WE'RE HERE TO MAKE IT RELIABLE..

mila.. i will check that blog too.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

Samantha
I remember seeing that video on you tube-I didn't make the connection earlier that you were talking about the same one.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

Patty,what you mean by sound like MJ words?I hope,you dont believe,that Michael ghost was talk out on Murey mouth?Or are you back for the theory,that Michael is a life?


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 2:00 pm ET

I was so upset over Miichael's passing–I didn't watch the whole thing–but definitely remember seeing it.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

linda
i know that video, it was disappeared same day as Oprah video..


Janice   August 19th, 2009 2:09 pm ET

This is why I take, everything, especially the media with a grain of salt. Fox put out a similar story about an arrest and here's what happened. You know its bad when the tabloids are doing a better fact check than the supposed legitimate news networks.

LOS ANGELES, Calif. -
A report that Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson’s doctor at the time of his death, will be charged with manslaughter in the next two weeks is “complete and totally false,” the LA District Attorney’s Office told Access Hollywood.

FOXNews.com reported on Wednesday that the doctor, who has been interviewed several times by authorities, would face criminal charges due to his alleged involvement in the King of Pop’s death.

However, the DA’s office told Access that was not the case.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

Hi Cocovelvet!

What video disapired?


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

Hi Cocvelvet & everyone
Mariau
was the Oprah video important / i haven't seen it.


Alicia   August 19th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

I for one, am sorry I bought that Ian Halperin book... it wasn't good, but it was the only book available at the time that I could find, I needed something to read about MIchael, and while most of it was trash, he did exonerate Michael for the child molestation charges, in his book. The only good thing he did.

My heart still aches for him. He was so good and treated so badly.

Have we been abandoned by the INformer? Is TI not talking anymore?


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

O,i see now Shamanta comment.I never see that video.And did he said,he didnt sign all tyhe 50 koncert?


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 2:16 pm ET

Stu, no that is not what I'm saying at all. I was saying it seemed like he was trying to use words that Micheal used. No No Ghosts talking through Murray


mariau   August 19th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

maureen
Oprah video interviewed with Michael jackson..that part when she's asking MJ's skin to black to white.
and that video Michael's speech.
he was so angry because ..

March 5, 2009
Michael Jackson speech
Thank you for your love and support, I want you guys to know I love your very much. I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m not big eater, I need to put some” weight on” they quoted him as saying.
I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows in one place.
I went to bed knowing I sold 10 dates, and woke up to the news I was booked to s50,” he added.
Michael was due to kick off his much- awaited run at th are 20,000 – capacity venue on July 8
But the opening night of this “this is tour were pushed to july 13, while three other gigs, previously stated for jluy 10, 12, and 14 are not staged until March next year.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

😀 Ok Patty!


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 2:19 pm ET

Janice
I suppose the LAPD are holding their cards close to their chests.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

I remember this words read somwhere "I went to bed knowing I sold 10 dates, and woke up to the news I was booked to s50,” he added.",but i never see the speech where he said this hem self.
How this is possible?Thay did it without hem?But Kethriene gat the contract,if it would be not sign,she would tell that.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

@Patty,

In Halperin's book from page 217 onwards he writes about MJ being together with Tohme Tohme (he is not a doctor!!!) in a Vegas hotel with Randy Phillips and AEG to finalize O2 plans: 10 concerts! Halperin claims AEG approached MJ already 2 times before and he did not want to go on tour. What made him do it afterall the book doesn't say exactly, though it is hinting into the direction of money problems.

He also writes about the house Mj lived until he died, which he rented through the Nation of islam for 100,000 a month while it was only 25,000 worth.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

Thanks Eli


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Some weblog report resources say Murray will be arrested next week and charged with manslaughter. I cannot give a link, everytime I try this my post does not get through.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

He should've been arrested a long time ago!!!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 2:38 pm ET

Beautiful foreword by MJ in the children's cook book Pigtails and Frog Legs, which you can order at Amazon.

The foreword is called "Nourish This Child"

"To a child, food is something special. It isn't just a delicious taste or the vitamins that build a healthy body. Food is love and caring, security and hope – all the things that a food family can provide.

Remember when you were little and your mother made a pie for you? When she cut a slice and put it on your plate, she was giving you a bit of herself, in the form of her love. She made you feel safe and wanted. She made your hunger go away, and when you were full and satisfied, everything seemed all right.

Because that satisfied feeling was in the pie, you were nourished from a deep level. Food is something we all need physically, but so is the love, the deeper nourishment, that turns us into who we are.

Think about how necessary it is to nourish a child with a bit of yourself when you use this book. It is full of delicious things. Every recipe has an extra ingredient of caring, because the people who wrote them were thinking of those who aren't able to take nourishment for granted because they are poor, sick, or disabled. These are the children who need food to heal.

The theme of "Heal the World", which has been close to my heart, is the central theme of this book also. Here are recipes for the spirit. Please make them with that in mind. Your child is growing spirit that can be knit strong with love. When you break an egg and measure a cup of flour, you are magically mixing the gift of life.

The food's proteins and minerals will turn into bones and muscles, but your feeling as you cook will turn directly into a soul. It makes me happy to think that the needs of children's spirits are at last becoming important in this world.

Children have no power to end wars directly or to mend age-old differences. All they can do is be themselves, to shine with gratitude and joy when love is turned their way. Yet isn't that ultimately the greatest power?

In the eyes of a child you become the source of joy, which lifts you into the special category of caregiver and life-provider. You may think that your apple pie has only sugar and spice in it. A child is wiser-with the first bite, he knows that this special dish is the essence of your love. Enjoy!" (5)


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 2:43 pm ET

But only manslaughter?Is that inough for giveing diprivan at somepodys home without the correct equipment?Why not etlist 2. degree murder?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Who needs to have a good cry?

I found a website where you need tissues when your read all the MJ quotes and poems.

I can't give a direct link but look for mjquotes dot com.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

One of Michael's beautiful poems!!

Once We Were There

Before the beginning, before the violence
Before the anguish of the broken silence
A thousand longings, never uttered
Pangs of sorrow, brutally smothered

But I have chosen to break and be free
Cut those ties, so I can see
Those bonds that imprisoned me in memories of pain
Those judgments, interpretations that cluttered my brain

Those festering wounds that lingered have gone
In their place a new life has dawned
That lonely child, still clutching his toy
Has made his peace, discovered his joy

Where time is not, immortality's clear
Where love abounds, there is no fear
The child has grown to weave his magic
Left behind, his life of sorrow, once so tragic

He is now, ready to share
Ready to love, ready to care
Unfold his heart, with nothing to spare
Join him now, if you dare.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

WHO IS MARTIN BASHEER???
RELATED TO --AEG Teleworks, an affiliate of AEG, handles production, post production, off-site production, and telecast services for ABC, CBS, AND NBC according to their website. Not only that, but Bounce Event Marketing, another affiliate of AEG, handles marketing for SONY.

Bashir was born in South London to Christian[1] parents of Pakistani origin and grew up in Wandsworth. He was educated at King Alfred's College of Higher Education, Winchester (since 2004 the University of Winchester), studying English and History from 1982-1985, and at King's College London.

[edit] Career
He started work as a journalist in 1986. He worked for the BBC until 1999 on programmes including Songs of Praise, Public Eye and Panorama and then he joined ITV, working on special documentary programmes and features for Tonight with Trevor McDonald.

Bashir came to wide prominence in 1995 when he interviewed (for the BBC's Panorama programme) Diana, Princess of Wales about her failed marriage to the Prince of Wales. Since then he has conducted interviews with, among others, Louise Woodward, the five suspects in the Stephen Lawrence case, Michael Barrymore, Jeffrey Archer, Major Charles Ingram, and Joanne Lees.

Bashir is currently employed by ABC and co-presents their current affairs show Nightline. He took over Nightline from Ted Koppel in 2005 following the famous news anchors final broadcast.

I GUESS... they were family..THINK ...

MICHAEL WAS FRAMED UP TWO TIMES... ON HIS CHILD MOLESTATION CASE...

MICHAEL WAS SET UP - TO HIS DRUGS OVERDOSE..


ZZDDOG   August 19th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

If you watch LKL and the interview with Joe Jackson, Joe Jackson quotes AEG Rep, as stateing The US dollar will be worth more than the pd before these concerts ever start. This proves that AEG murdered Michael. The pd has never ever been less than us dollar.
One thing Joe Jackson know's is money. And his whole arguement was that MJ get paid in lbs and not us dollars. He quotes AEG , then states AEG denied it. It sounds like AEG was irritated by Joe Jackson and had a slip of the tongue.


RFergy   August 19th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

you can find all of Michael's quotes and poems on his Heal The World Foundation website. Click on About the Founder and it will take you to them.

They are a FANTASTIC read and a great insight into how wonderful MJ really was!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

it's seems to me..
Michael was tortured human being.
when he was alive.. media tried to kill him..
now he is dead.. media trying to keep him alive to kill and destroy him again and again..
Michael May God Almighthy Bless your soul, and you are now in Heaven.. God will give you everlasting happiness..

REST IN PEACE MY KING OF POP.. WE LOVE YOU


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

Good Point ZZDDOG

RFery... thank you for that info


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

AMEN Mariau!!!!


mariau   August 19th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

ZZDDOG
VERY GOOD POINT ...


Ben S   August 19th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

Ian Halperin talks rubbish and his flop book about Michael Jackson is full of lies with "unamed souces". He is not a credible source for Michael Jackson news, and it's an insult to any viewer of CNN to use him as a source. Please use J. Randy Taraborrelli as a source, as he's the only one who has any real claim to be Michael Jackson's biographer.


mariau   August 19th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

samantha,
thank you so much for this enlighten articles you posted..


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

Samanha
I read that article-I tought the similarities were a little eerie


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 3:29 pm ET

JUST SAW THIS NOW ON TMZ:

Coroner Back At Arnie Klein's Office

An official from the L.A. County Coroner's office has just returned to Dr. Arnold Klein's office in Beverly Hills to retrieve more files in the Michael Jackson case.

Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter just told our photog he was there for more MJ medical files.


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

correction
installments


lindafromnewyork   August 19th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

Idon't think SONY can delete these videos-Harpo productions own them–not SONY


Jacquelyn   August 19th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

Linda

Message me, thanks


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 3:50 pm ET

Eli

It's FOX news and they say that they will raid the pharmacy again.....now who would say that beforehand....doesn't make sense!


Lisa S   August 19th, 2009 4:04 pm ET

Hi Mariau!

Was not on messenger at all today. Been working all day but danced to Smooth criminal the last class today:-)

Hi everybody else as well!


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:04 pm ET

Samantha> I just read that article. Amazing

At Kleins again... Excellent!!!


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:05 pm ET

Hi Lisa


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

From Fox News:

Michael Jackson's doctor, Conrad Murray, will be arrested and charged with manslaughter within two weeks, according to a Fox News report. A law enforcement source told Fox that Murray is to be arrested as soon as investigators complete one more search next week, probably at a Los Angeles pharmacy. Police expect to arrest him the following week, according to the report.

According to the report, police wanted to charge Murray with second degree murder, but prosecutors were concerned that a jury might not convict him without the presence of a motive.......
But Fox's police source said the DA's office is currently talking with investigators about whether Murray will be given the option of surrendering in Los Angeles or if he will be arrested in Houston, where he resides.

Police sources also told Fox that dermatologist Arnold Klein will be charged with medical malpractice in Jackson's death.


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:12 pm ET

Isn't strange to say in advance that they will arrest someone, no???

within 2 weeks.... that's around august 29....


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:13 pm ET

Luda I saw that this morning... Guess I'm wondering why they would announce an arrest in 2 weeks. Doesn't that give Murray the opportunity to disappear?


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

Now is it sure,its only gonna be manslaughter?And nothing about AEG and maybe Sony?


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

Stu. I don't believe they are even looking into AEG. I could be wrong though


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

I bumped into this post which has been posted on several Christian blogs. The man claims to be a personal friend of Michael. It's off topic in regards to the indictments-topic, but I would like to offer it for reading anyway.

Jess (pseudonym) says:
July 20, 2009 at 4:20 pm

There are a thousand ways I could word this but frankly I am tired of trying to find just the right words. I have been following this site for weeks. I have read each of these posts as well as those on other sites. I have remained silent and wonder if I should continue to be silent. However, I believe as long as I am protecting Michael’s privacy, even posthumously, God and even Michael would want me to share the following. I have never and will never do interviews, I will never divulge my identity as I have not for many years. Some will believe what I will say here, some will not, that is between you and God. It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything. I believe that you are all my sisters and brothers here in the faith and for that I am thankful. I am grateful that we all agree and acknowledge Jesus Christ, as Savior, as Lord, as the only hope for our lives, as the very reason we live and breathe and share this good news as He asks we do.There is not other way to says this than to just say it straight to all of your here “my family” in the body of Christ. Michael and I were friends for many years. I was involved in the trial, I have witnessed like others the loving and devoted father he was, I have shared many times with him and his family. We have had many private conversations. Although I have been asked, I apologize but I would not share the details of those conversations any more than I would talks with any other friend as that would be gossip and betray the designed, intended, intrinsic trust of friendship. Based on the aforementioned and other details, I can tell you all with absolute certainty that Michael had accepted Jesus Christ, understood who He is and had given His life to Him. I will not disclose dates, words or reasons that it may or may not match what the world saw publicly. Just after his passing, it mattered to me that the world knew, that the church was made aware. Somehow, after much prayer, it doesn’t seem to matter anymore. It mattered at first to show the world, to convince the skeptics in the church who “didn’t see fruit” or doubted that someone like Michael could be saved. (absurdly like “someone” like any of us deserves it more)
I ask that not as Pharisees or Sadducees but as people who have been saved by grace and not of ourselves. I ask that as redeemed people, each of us, respectively able to give unique testimony of how God reached to us in the mud and mire of our lives and never gave up on us, I ask that you accept this truth. If you want proof, you will have to wrestle with why you must have it and ask God why you must. If someone told you that a neighbor you had known for years had died but was saved and you had not known that, you would rejoice and not doubt. But truly God’s own people wrongly and self righteously judged Michael on numerous occasions. I miss him terribly and our family is beyond saddened as we grieve primarily for his children, his family and other friends who were blessed… not to have known a well known individual but to have shared this life with a beautiful, yet misunderstood human being. I have peace in knowing that God in His mercy decided there would be no music ministry, no imminent public profession to be torn apart (by the church) and that God didn’t even deem it necessary that the world be notified of anything. God’s love for us is one on One. It is quintessentially personal and goes deeper than any love we can fathom. Glory only to God the Father that this unfathomable love took home a son, that Michael is now free from his chronic physical pain and emotional anguish. I thank God that I lived to witness his salvation, I am humbled beyond expression that God loves us as He does and asks that we do the same for each other. I praise Him for all of you that you faithfully continue to speak His words in a dark and dying world where the harvest is ripe and the workers are too few…… thanks for reading.
In All That Jesus Is –


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

Patty, it's getting more and more strange...


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

It sure is Luda.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

So,Murey gat only manslaughter,and everybody else,the bigger ones are save...


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

And Murey will gat avay in this 2 wicks,so realy nobody will gat rest.


sarah   August 19th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Dr. Murray can't escape, if he did there would be more chargers against him !!!

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Gloria   August 19th, 2009 4:22 pm ET

Hi to all: I think that another source says that the story "floated" out there is not true.... that the DA's office denies that there are any plans to arrest Murray for manslaughter.... whew, it's hard to keep up on what it what...until later...
Gloria from Pittsburgh


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:23 pm ET

Eli: That is just amazing!! Thank you for posting that...


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

Hi Gloria.. I thought it was strange that they would announce an arrest before it happened.


chris   August 19th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

Halperin is scum and will do whatever it takes to sell a book – pure lies and sensationalism. The book I choose to read is by Aphrodite Jones. Please, Larry, have her on your show.


Lisa S   August 19th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel August 19th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

It is always hard to know what is truth and what is not. Meddie has a blog where she collects proof and discuss whether Michael had converted to islam. Very interesting blog!

I think this is part of Michaels greatness. Everybody wanted to believe that he belonged to them, and yet he belonged to everyone. The chirstians took him to his heart, the witnesses, the muslims, the black the whites, the indians the scandinavians, the men the woman, children adults etc etc etc. We listen to his songs and feel that he is singing about us.His songs and words touched everybody.

Isnt that just wonderful?


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Hasn't the Informer said: don't believe what you will hear...???

Finally, he's probably right because it's getting exausthing! LOL


Alicia   August 19th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Thank you for sharing that, Eli, it gives me some comfort.


sarah   August 19th, 2009 4:35 pm ET

where is INFOMER by th way , is this investigation ever going to end?????

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:35 pm ET

Lisa. It absolutely is!!!


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:35 pm ET

Halperin has written so much lies about many famous people...
I dream one day one of these people would give him a lesson and make him fall.....


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

The informer seems to have gone M I A since the announcement of Micheal being laid to rest on hi Birthday.

I don't believe we have seen him since Sunday night...


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

Luda,The Informer said,all the news about the burial is not true.Day after the news said for sure whenn the burial will be.If he would be realy an Informer,he would not make this misstake.I would realy like hem to come,and uske hem about this,couse i dont belive it anymore.But i will be very happy,if in december i would be suprice,wich i dont think so.Only whay for Michael to be a life,if he would be in this whittnes protect program,but thann he would not come back,like the Informer said.

But anywhay,The Informer,come,and tell us,wath do ypu think!


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

But Luda,did he say that anywhay?I just remember,he alvais said,keep your ears and eyes open.


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 4:43 pm ET

Don't know how far this is 'true' but these are the comments that are circulating on the web about what Frank DiLeo said when Michael fired him in 1988:

"I have a strong belief in what comes around goes around. It's called Karma, and I hope Michael understands what that means. If he doesn't now, one day he will."

"You can't just ask Michael straight out to do something," "Michael needs to be stroked. His ego needs to be massaged thoroughly before he'll do anything."


sarah   August 19th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

witness protection program , People like MJ just cannot go in the witness protection program, its just too big, i think somehow, somewhere and someone should have found it by now. its just too good to be true >.....Nope IMPOSSIBLE

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN !!! PEACE


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

Patty, I think it's just last night the informer didn't come...


Lori   August 19th, 2009 4:46 pm ET

Hey everyone....as always there is so much conflicting information. I think the media just makes it up. I keep waiting to read a report that quotes The Informer as their source!

Or maybe they will start quoting the people who post on the LKL blogs!

I think that if any arrests were going to be made that they would not publicise it first. Also who ever heard of advance warning on a search warrant. And now TMZ says the Coronor has gone to Klein's office for more MJ files.

Like I said last night.... what do you think is going to happen next?


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:50 pm ET

Patty, the night before Murray's video (yesterday) the informer was here and he said: Watch it will become crazier..

The next day, we saw Murray's video and I remember Sandy said: it's getting crazier!

I answered her: " it's exactly what the informer said: it will get crazier..."

and it did....


Gloria   August 19th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Patty Anderson, Luda, Lori, Stu and all on the blog:
I don't think you can believe anything it's all just speculation at this point. Even the August 29th burial plans, who is that source? Maybe the Informer is right, and the burial won't happen.
Incidentally, I think that the LAPD botched this whole investigation from day ONE and they are trying to do their own "cover up".... JMO...
Gloria from Pgh.


Lisa S   August 19th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

I didnt find Murrays video crazy. It was very expected what he said. It was just a statement to show that he is a human being and also a call for sympathy.

This video was initiated by his advisers and attorneys. Tells us nothing really.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

Intersting Luda. It definately is getting crazy. All these reports here and there.

I could've missed him Monday. I went off early:

The media just can't leave him alone, even in death... It's just ridiculous!!


Luda   August 19th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

Stu, let's wait to see what will happen on august 29....

Personally I find it strange they chose Mike's birthday....


Terrie   August 19th, 2009 4:55 pm ET

Luda-Thanks for giving us the heads up about an arrest will be forthcoming soon after I saw Dr. Murray giving his first public speech last night and hope Dr. Klein will be charge of some wrongdoing. I never did like these two men...they are a couple of slimebuckets and scumbuckets who only cared about the big money from a well known celebrity instead of keeping MJ's life healthy and safe!!!


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 4:55 pm ET

"The media make the innocent look guilty and the guilty look innocent". I think this quote pretty much speaks for itself as to how 'misrepresented' Michael truly was...............


Lisa S   August 19th, 2009 4:56 pm ET

Luda:

I also think it is a strange date, but I guess as the mum belongs to the witnesses, she doesnt celebrate birthdays anyway.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 4:56 pm ET

They did Gloria.. From the very beginning. Any other case that would've been sealed as a crime scene until otherwise proven not to be one.


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 5:00 pm ET

Gloria,Luda!

I thoughd it was official.


Luda   August 19th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

Gloria, you are right about the burial because if I remember well they said they would not give the right time and date...

so it will be probably be done before in private... because giving the date & hour won't make it private for sure.... it's a trap... it won't happen on august 29.


Lisa S   August 19th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

Stu:

This is the Murray statement. Same as in earlier blog?


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

LindafromNewYork

Thank you for posting the utube videos of Oprah and MJ ....just watched all of them.

Such a gentle soul!!! Love him to death!

He told Oprah he really loved Michaelangelo....maybe one of the reasons his Mom chose the Great Mausoleum is that it has the Michaelangelo ceiling painted within!


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

Yes.The one,what he put on youtube to send message to hes friendes.


Luda   August 19th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

Gloria, or this investigation is created to cover up the real investigation... see what I mean?


Lori   August 19th, 2009 5:05 pm ET

You know, today is the one week aniversary of those first The Informer posts that made all of us on the blogs take leave of our senses (assuming we had them to begin with!).

I wonder if we can expect a return appearance.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 5:05 pm ET

I still have to agree with Toni... I think he's already been put to rest. But maybe not... That's something we will probably never know for sure and I'm ok with that. Micheal needs peace now.....


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 5:07 pm ET

Hjajjj Luda,i would be very supriced in september,if he would come back.Just think about,this was criminal,what he did.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 5:08 pm ET

There's a new blog everyone... Jackson family to foot the bill for burial

There's just noway this isn't real.... It's been something new everyday.... How can this be a hoax???


Gloria   August 19th, 2009 5:09 pm ET

Luda: Like I said before I think that the LAPD botched this from June 25th.... by not declaring MJ's home a crime scene right after it was reported that he died... instead the staff, his family and who knows who else roamed around the house and did whatever they wanted unattended.... how can you conduct a proper investigation like that???? If there was evidence there, it was certainly gone by the time the LAPD taped off the house TWO days later.... Every step of the way, this is contridictory.... every element has a counter element.... Michael was an addict, no the Propofol killed him; Michael's was in good shape, no MJ was frail and weak.... NOTHING RINGS TRUE IN THIS....


Gloria   August 19th, 2009 5:10 pm ET

I hope to join the blog after I fight the traffic and get home....
Be Back Later....until then,
Gloria in Pittsburgh...


Lori   August 19th, 2009 5:11 pm ET

Gloria: I beleive that I say a report on the net that a Mr. Sunshine (Ken, maybe) identified himself as either an official family spokesperson, or a publicist for the family and confirmed the details of the 29 August burial plans after Mr. Joseph had made that information known to a reporter the previous day.

So I guess, that it could be official. With this case, you never know until you see it with your own eyes, and apparently, even when we do there are doubts.


Luda   August 19th, 2009 5:11 pm ET

Patty, never forget the media always make everything bigger then it is!

remember Michael's song Tabloid Junkie....


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

In the funeral announcement it says that there will be an area for Media! so must be true!!


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

Lori,i think,the Informer didnt come yestarday,couse everybody was talking in the daytime about,he was wrong,and everybody said,thay don believe anymore to The Informer.But maybe a think wrong.


Samantha - South Africa   August 19th, 2009 5:15 pm ET

I FOUND THIS ARTICLE TO BE QUITE INTERESTING FROM ONE OF MICHAEL'S FORMER BUSINESS ASSOCIATES DAVID WISHNA, PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT "PEOPLE" CUTTING DEALS WITHOUT CONSULTING MICHAEL FIRST:

"It's Going to Be a Disaster": Associate Says Jackson Was Too Weak for Major Comeback

E! Online, Jul 11, 2009 12:29 pm PDT

One of the dreamers who tried to reboot Michael Jackson's career says the late King of Pop wasn't fit enough to hit the stage for the "greatest comeback show ever" two years ago, let alone this summer.

"It would have happened had I assessed that Michael was capable mentally, emotionally, vocally to do it. At the end of it, we decided no, he wasn't," Jack Wishna, president of consultancy CPAmerica and the orchestrator of Jackson's return to the U.S. after a year spent living abroad, exclusively tells E! News.

The idea that they danced around from mid-2006 to mid-2007, and again earlier this year, was to have Jackson in residence at a Las Vegas hotel, where he'd star in a concert spectacular called Michael Jackson Presents that would also feature guest appearances by the latest R&B hitmakers.

"Michael says, 'I have this huge statue of me in full regalia, moon boots,'" Wishna recalled. "I want the hotel to encase it in the wall and the nights I'm in performance the statue comes out to the center of the strip so the world knows that I'm here," Jackson said, according to Wishna. "It would come out on a conveyor belt."

But though concert promoter AEG Live said that Jackson passed a physical with flying colors earlier this year, Wishna maintains that the 50-year-old artist had been in a "weakened state" and wasn't able to do three shows a month in 2007, much less maintain a more rigorous schedule now.

"He would get hurt if he had to do a regimen of performances," Wishna said. "You really have to be fit to go up on stage to do that."

So, earlier this year, he and Jackson instead discussed creating a show in the guise of LOVE, Cirque du Soleil's ode to the Beatles, that the King of Pop would not actually be in.

But then, Wishna said, he found out Jackson had hooked up with AEG for his London engagement.

"He said it should be fine," Wishna recalled. "In my heart I knew he didn't get better from the time I was with him. He was thin and weak. It's going to be a disaster. I would never put him into a show that way. I don't know who the doctor is that certified him for it. I didn't think [Jackson] was capable of doing it."

Wishna said he never saw Jackson using drugs, but that he wouldn't have had any trouble obtaining whatever he wanted—oftentimes from people who didn't have his best interests at heart.

"There were so many people around him that were enablers," the exec said. "It was one thing after another that just made it very bizarre."

"Michael has a lot of people around him that cut deals and sometimes Michael doesn't even know what those deals are," he added. "So many people have been around him. At every turn it's like he's his worst enemy because of the people that are around him."

"If you opened your mouth he'd alienate them and get rid of them," Wishna said of the members of Jackson's entourage who failed to acquiesce to his demands. "Nobody told him 'don't do this, don't do that.'"

Sadly, Jackson isn't around to tell anyone to do anything on his behalf anymore. But Wishna feels that he knows what the Thriller purveyor would say about one thing.

"In Ireland, when I spoke to Michael, I said, 'Come back and go back to Neverland.'" And Jackson said, "I never, never, never want to go back to Neverland. Never."

"My thought is if someone buries him in Neverland he will come up out of the ground like in Thriller and strangle them," Wishna said, referring to rumors that Jackson's family is still considering a bid to inter Jackson on the grounds of his once-beloved ranch.

"I tried to get rid of Neverland for him. He would never set foot back on Neverland. He never wanted to go there, never wanted to sleep there— never, never."


Mimi   August 19th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

TO Eli, Jerusalem/Israel... I WANNA THANK U FOR THE POST OF MJ U SHARED WITH US. AS A CHRISTIAN, IT GIVES ME JOY TO KNOW THAT MICHEAL GAVE HIS LIFE TO CHRIST B4 HIS DEATH .

THIS MEANS THAT HE IS NOW WITH GOD IN HAVEN. IN MANY WAYS, THIS TAKES AWAY THE PAIN I USED TO FEEL IN MY HEART ABOUT HIS PASSING..
I ALSO WANNA THANK THE WRITER OF THE POST, HE SEEMS TO BE A REVEREND/ MAN OF GOD.. THANKS FOR BEING THERE FOR MICHEAL... GOD BLESS.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Drive safe Gloria

I know Luda... You would hope at least one of them would be truthful and not jump to conclusions.

Makes me wonder what ever happened to stating only the facts


Luda   August 19th, 2009 5:18 pm ET

Lora, funny because they said it would be private.... and at first they said there would be no media allowed....


Stu,Hungary   August 19th, 2009 5:19 pm ET

Somebody was put this report from an other link here,and its 1 hour report.Very interesting.


Luda   August 19th, 2009 5:27 pm ET

Thanks Samantha that articale was very interesting!


Mimi   August 19th, 2009 5:33 pm ET

TO Eli, Jerusalem/Israel

PLS CAN U POST THE LINK TO THE ARTICLE


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 5:37 pm ET

yes Luda Now I guess they are going to allow a few selected ones to be there.


Patty Anderson   August 19th, 2009 5:42 pm ET

Be back later everyone. 🙂


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

@Lisa S,

I know Meddie's website, which is indeed made with much dedication and love. However, Meddie can't come up with any proof MJ converted to islam amd she is a convert, a former Lutheran and she does not want to recognize the christian symbols that Michael used. I know myself that converts are usually fanatics, so was my brother when he converted to christianity. Personally, after hearing the Andrae Crouch story, with whom MJ prayed in the name of Jesus, asking for the anointment of the Holy Spirit, I believe MJ, whether he did say the islamic shahad'a in ocrober 2008 or not, felt the most comfortable in the arms of Jesus. Jesus probably was also the most appealing to him because Jesus asked for a childlike surrender. It is true however, that neither Joe or Jermaine did not want to answer the question directly.

@Mimi, go to the website of the Sisters of faith. If I post the link, my post does not come through.


John@HP ILL   August 19th, 2009 6:26 pm ET

Tohme had been exiled for years from Michael Jackson and right when all this 02 arena was planned, he showed up out of the blue. He then proceeded to stop an auction that Michael Jackson agreed to himself with in days after the 02 concert announcement. Tohme also apparently was involved in much more than just being a friend. Some friend. I beleive between him and Dileo coming out of semi retirement had every intention to glean monetary gain . the items that were sent to auction will now be a part of a tour that hopefully will be stopped by the courts. One does not have to look far to figure this one out. Everyone stood to make millons perhaps billons. When Tohme gave back the 5 millon, that was a snide way to show people he was honest when in fact he is not. Wondering why Deleo came out od semi retirement from Kentucky and was in the Los Angeles area at the very time Michael Jackson died. He does not live there. Dr. Needle man was maybe the fall guy, maybe unbeknownest to him, something was slipped into Michael Jackson. AEG doesn't want to pay him. It appears they have a very hard time paying anybody.


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 6:29 pm ET

Mila
Thank you for the link. It's such a relief to hear people in the pop industry speak out. !


Lori   August 19th, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Interesting John....Didn't Tohme set up the deal with AEG? Then he's out and DiLeo is in. Was Tohme at the hospital? Then Branca 17 days before MJ died.

But I can't figure out why half of the reports say Michael was healthy and in good shape. (That must be all AEG) and the others say he was just the opposite? I thought maybe it could be possible that MJ died of "natural causes", but then why all the DEA and LA PD investigation into the Rx issues. The lack of known facts makes my head spin.


Maureen (UK)   August 19th, 2009 6:37 pm ET

John@HP ill & all

Apparently AEG sacked all MJ's staff on 25th June.
Politicalaffairs.net Aug 1 – 31, 2009
The Man Who Knew Too Much


Rhonda   August 19th, 2009 7:02 pm ET

Gerald,
Go away you little pest


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 19th, 2009 7:04 pm ET

Maureen, I read the article, interesting!


Mila   August 19th, 2009 7:13 pm ET

Maureen (UK) – I hope you managed to see all the 6 parts of the interview. I posted only the first one because it's easy to figure out the other 5 parts from the related videos on You Tube.
The interview is amazing – I just wish they had come forward with all this info while MJ was still with us.


SuzieCanada   August 19th, 2009 7:17 pm ET

"Dr. Conrad Murray could be arrested next week"


SuzieCanada   August 19th, 2009 7:18 pm ET

"According to Fox News, Jackson’s dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein will also face charges and a case is still being built against him."


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 7:22 pm ET

Mila

Thanks for the posting of the Sony Epic interviews....I heard all 6 parts. This should be made available to all!

Not enough good things said about Michael. I'm glad that the Tabloids are having money problems they could all go bankrupt!!!


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 19th, 2009 7:24 pm ET

Luda

How can there not be media.......it's Michael. We all want to know what goes on about him.....it's Human Nature!!


SuzieCanada   August 19th, 2009 7:35 pm ET

Anyone knows if the Fox news report is true, or has it been refuted? Sorry, didn't have time to do much reading today 😦


Lori   August 19th, 2009 7:39 pm ET

This is part of what is on E online

LAPD officials would not comment on the Fox News report—not even to debunk it. A spokeswoman for Murray brushed it off as nothing more than gossip fodder.

"It's just another one of those rumors," she told E! News.

Meanwhile, she also took time out to dismiss other false reports circulating online and defend Murray's decision to post his video thank-you to supporters earlier this week.

"It's the only forum he had. He couldn't thank all the people individually. Twenty or 30 people call me each day, and people call with concerns. They're hearing all these awful rumors on the Internet that Dr. Murray is depressed, suicidal. He wanted to set the record straight."

And why didn't he push harder in the minute-long video to prove his innocence?

"It wasn't the forum for him to display his defense," she said. "It was to thank his supporters."


Luda   August 19th, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Lora, I just thought the family wanted some privacy for once....


Susan   August 19th, 2009 10:21 pm ET

Hi all:

See the AEG contract w/MJ on radaronline.com. Very long, very interesting. MJ signed it, but dates were blackened out. Read yellow highlight sentence towards the end regarding MJ's health.

See MJ letter firing Leonard Rowe on May 20, 2009 from radaronline.com also. You will have to google Leonard Rowe to find it.

What spurred the LAPD investigation were the drugs found in MJ's toxicology report. That tox report is the controlling factor with answers to all of our questions. The tox report did find Diprovan (we all know that) but also xanax. No one has snitched out yet what the other 2 drugs were. LAPD cannot arrest Dr. Murray without proof for the DA to take to court. LAPD needs every ounce of proof to convict so they are covering all bases. LAPD & DEA are also backtracking the drug history doctors. This needs to be done for the DA to prosecute Murray as Murray's attorneys will go for defense that MJ was a drug addict....Murray didn't know it and the combo of Diprivan is what killed MJ. That's my guess.

Also studied up on Diprivan. People who have taken Dip for a long time will build up the drup in their blood line. When that occurs, dr's have to decrease the amount of Dip each time it's used on a patient or patient can die from overdose. FDA also has a warning that there is a bacterial contamination with Dip if not used properly. Also, Dip has to have continuous monitoring due to potential flow from drip line or breakdown of Dip fluid. If dosage is given too fast, it can put patient in cardiac arrest and also patient has to have the Dip slowed down a short time before it runs out so patient doesn't react with anxiety. Dr can never leave patient alone once patient is injected. There are numerous drugs to counteract Dip and respiratory problems. This is where Murray will be charged.

CNN today has article where man in Florida tried to fake his own death. He was sentenced to 4 years in the Federal pen and pay everyone back.


Susan   August 19th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

My opinion for what's it's worth:

I don't think any consipiracy is going on. LAPD and DEA are doing everything possible to get to the truth, facts, so they can hang everyone responsible to MJ's death. Also to possibly get laws changed for enabling doctors.

AEG would have gotten a lot more money now & in the future with MJ alive. I don't think they are involved at all. AEG was insured by LLoyd's of London (best in the world) & Lloyd's is the one that hired their own dr to exam MJ. Any "STAR" is insured with the drug clause . That's standard operating procedure.


Maria   August 19th, 2009 11:48 pm ET

Susan: completely agreed – that's why the investigation takes so long. On Murray, it was clear that this will be the defense strategy, once his lawyer Ed Chernoff said some time ago that Murray never gave MJ Demerol or Oxycontin, but did not comment on Diprivan.
The contract is also very interesting and no doubt its authenticity will be very disputed, since it says clearly about (at least) 31 concerts, not about 10...


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 20th, 2009 1:13 am ET

@Susan, I took a quick scan of the AEG contract but I will read it again.

So, an agreement of 31, with a minimum of 18 shows?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 20th, 2009 1:21 am ET

@Susan, the contract doesn't give a date on which it is signed.


Lisa S   August 20th, 2009 1:45 am ET

Susan:

I totally agree with you. Thanks for the factbased information.


Lisa S   August 20th, 2009 1:48 am ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel August 19th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Does it really matter? The important thing is that everybody took Michael to their hearts and that he never clearly could be labelled or put into a box. He fitted in with everybody and in every group. And everybody had him.


Lisa S   August 20th, 2009 1:58 am ET

Susan again:

I still cant get this straight, if Michael had conditions (psysical or mental, i e stress, depression etc) so serious that he had to take Dirprivan how can he sign what he signed?

Doesnt this contract show that AEG is going to get their money back. I mean, even if Murray, even though unlikely had injected dangerous drugs in him, just the fact that they were carrying oxygentubes in and out of the house indicated that he was not totally well and the only question is wether that condition interfered with his obligations towards AEG. Unfortunately it did..


Maria   August 20th, 2009 2:49 am ET

Lisa S –
1) Michael signed it probably hoping that his medical problems won't interfere with his obligations; there is no reason to believe that he signed it thinking that he will embarrass himself on the stage or that death will shield him from that.
2) if AEG wanted to get their money back invoking that MJ lied about his health, I think they would have shown it by now. All the AEG representatives or employees quoted in the presses claimed that he was in good health, energetic and so on. And I guess that financially it's better for AEG to continue to be the business partner of the MJ estate than to sue the estate to recover its initial investment and go away.
3) I'm afraid that if Mrs Jackson will sue AEG (the wrongful death action), AEG may need to sue the estate, though, for the false health statement (and probably will also sue the independent doctor who performed the initial physical test on MJ and declared him fit). Because they need to prove that they had no idea that the health statement was false. But of course all depends on the result of autopsies & drug use investigation.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 20th, 2009 2:56 am ET

Would it be possible MJ was in despair and therefore signed it? I don't buy it he was so self assured that he would make all the performances. Somehow he must have known it would be a task he was unable to fullfil, I guess?

There is also no date on the contract, so we don't know when exactly it was signed.

As for dr. Tohme Tohme, he is no Saudi doctor, he is a Lebanese businessman. It doesn't give me a good feeling he is been labeled as "dr". I am so afraid Mj really had nu clue who he was dealing with.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 20th, 2009 3:21 am ET

JDF, kom eens met wat originelers. Dat gezeur van jou hebben we nu wel gezien.


Susan   August 20th, 2009 6:57 am ET

The L.A. Times Newspaper said that Murray admitted to police that he gave Diprovan to MJ sometimes. Murray didn't inject MJ everyday. MJ's head must have been clear the day he signed the contract. Oxygen is required when you first inject the Dip and also for any breathing complications during the Dip. I also think the date was blanked out, because it may be an earlier written contract than the finalized one. That's a guess.

TMZ.com on 8/7 said the Lloyd's of London insurance policy issued mid-April (after the medical exam of MJ) does not cover any loss directly or indirectly arising out of, contributed, to, by or resulting from...the illegal posession or illicit taking of drugs and their effects.

Even though Dip is legal, administering it in a home could constitute "illicit use". The insurance policy covered $17.5 million. AEG is in the hole $30 million. Bottom line......that tox report is the key answer as to whether the insurance pays out. If it does, MJ's estate collects it.

Lloyds of London (insurance co.) is the one that hired an independent doctor. It was Dr. David Slavit & he even did blood work on MJ. MJ passed the exam, so the policy was issued.

The only way, I can see, that Katherine can file a wrongful death suit against AEG would be to tie Dr. Murray as an employee of AEG. Problem is, Dr. Murray was going to get paid from MJ's 90%. How the contract was written concerning Murray will provide the info if she can sue AEG.

I think MJ wanted the performance days spread out so he had days inbetween to rest & get his Diprovan. This would allow him time to be rested for his performances.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 20th, 2009 7:24 am ET

It's a bit off topic, but if you want to see the cute teenager Michael in a dating show, please go to youtube and search for:

Michael Jackson On The dating Game Show (1972)

It is so cute!


Maria   August 20th, 2009 10:08 am ET

Susan, the family is indeed talking about the link AEG-Murray. This is what struck me when I heard the lawyer Burt Levitch this week. "It's fairly obvious from press accounts that AEG had a very active role in Michael's life for the last six months. They paid for his home and for Dr. Conrad Murray."
AEG/Randy Phillips admitted that they hired Murray (though only at MJ's insistences) and that they did disburse a certain sum for paying the medical expenses linked with Murray (and then declared their surprise that the money hasn't yet reached the doctor).

The family may also try to prove AEG's bad faith regarding the insurance policy, citing that Lloyd's wanted a second medical examination, days before July 13.


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