August 3, 2009

Michael Jackson's mom to seek control of estate

Posted: 07:14 AM ET

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Katherine Jackson's legal battle for some control of her son's estate returns to court Monday in front of the same judge who is expected to award her permanent guardianship of Michael Jackson's children.

Dozens of lawyers are expected to pack a Los Angeles courtroom where a judge will consider the Jackson family matriarch's challenge of the lawyer and former music executive named as executors in Michael Jackson's will.

Katherine Jackson's lawyers filed a petition last week accusing the men who now control the estate of being "intent on keeping her in the dark" about deals they've made or are negotiating.

Londell McMillan, Jackson's lead attorney, raised questions about "a suspicious circle of relationships" involving John Branca, the singer's longtime personal attorney, and John McClain, a music industry executive and longtime friend.

Howard Weitzman, one of the lawyers for Branca and McClain, said they've provided "timely information to Mrs. Jackson's counsel regarding potential business opportunities for the Estate."

"Any inference that we have not been forthcoming in providing information to Katherine Jackson's attorneys is not accurate," Weitzman said.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff gave Branca and McClain temporary control of the estate until Monday's hearing.


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Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 7:18 am ET

OooHhhh!!! yeah... give her those rights coz MJ is his son......... She has the complete right over her son's estate....

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 7:28 am ET

I think she does have rights over her son's estate, but what about Joe
Jacksom, why is he not interested in any of MJ's estae, why is it only the mother?
Are thet separated? I think they are for sure? I was reading about it.
It seems like they had separate lives, and still do.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 7:35 am ET

YES, Let Katherine have control of her own son estate. KATHERINE, YOU ARE IN OUR PRAYERS.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 7:37 am ET


They are not separated. How they are playing there hand is the best way. Besides they are married, anything she gets is automatically Joe's anyway. What you read is not always true, especially from the media. So remember that little tidbit.

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 7:48 am ET

I know that the media usually writes rubbish, but how do we know
what is true or lies?
I listen to th news, and read everything on MJ, and just do not know what to believe anymore

Malaika   August 3rd, 2009 7:50 am ET

Larry please for once hv guests who are not biased against Mrs Jackson & her family please!!! Mrs Jackson has every right to control Michael's Estate, she is his mother for crying out loud!!!

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 7:54 am ET

To Jenny,

I think only Katherine is contesting or asking for control of part of her son MJ's estate, and not Joe coz he was in the first place not mentioned in the Will. I read that Joe and Katherine are ofcourse separated coz Joe lives in Las Vegas and Katherine lives in Encino LA, even though this Joe being as ridiculous as he always is, has alleged in one of his interviews that they are not separated. How can they not be separated when they actually live apart in different cities!!???......Others have even alleged that even though they are separated, they are not divorced due to the norms and values of their Jehovah's Witness membership.

Attorney McMillan could be really right when he says that there are some suspicious circle of relationships, coz if Katherine has been mentioned with the biggest share in her son MJ's Will and request not to be left in the dark about MJ's estate, its logical enough any parent will take that step.....and have all rightful thoughts to raise eyebrows especially with those so-called administrators Branca and McClain. What are they trying to hide from Katherine or the Jackson Family anyway!!!!????..........

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 7:56 am ET

The girl that was on the show was not biased, the one that was living in Neverland for 2 month, with the Anglelic voice. I saw the show 2nite on the LK show.

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 8:02 am ET

HI cocovelvet,

I agree that they are separated and live separate lives.
What he said on the show about them being married was another one of his lies.You just cannot believe him,he is just playing with everybody's mind. Now I know why Micheal was not close with his so called dad and lived separate lives from him.

Malaika   August 3rd, 2009 8:06 am ET

the so called executors of MJ's estate are definitely hiding something frm Mrs Jackson, it seems these executors are protecting AEG, why refuse to show Mrs Jackson the contract btwn Michael & AEG? AEG is behind this, my heart is breaking for Mrs Jackson & Michael's 3 beautiful kids. the onli pple wth Michael's best interests @ heart are his family- the Jackson family, i pray the Judge wl see this & grant Mrs Jackson control of Michael's estate. God hear my prayer please.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 8:08 am ET

Just because you live in separate states does not mean you are separated in that extent. Alot of people have long distance relationships. They just celebrated their 60th anniversary. So I guess Katherine is a liar to when she said her husband and her are together in every since of the word. Joe has business in LV, just as Katherine do in Encino. Like she said they see eachother all the time.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 8:11 am ET

I hope this is not true.

I hope she will focus on the children and make sure they are doing well and leave the estate to the ones Michael appointed.

He appointed people who knew how he was thinking and where his focuse were.

Michael is gone now. Money wont matter to him anymore. The children is what is important to take care of.

Malaika   August 3rd, 2009 8:13 am ET

the media is winning this game IMO they wnt us 2 lose focus of real issues here, this is not abt Joe, its abt Michael, nw we talking abt wether Mrs Jackson & Mr Jackson are 2getha or wateva... thus besides the point, justice needs to be done 4 Michael- end of story. these pple controlled Michael & his money all his life, it has to stop, Mrs Jackson must be given control of Michael's estate. let us show our full support 2 Michael's family, its the least we can do 4 Michael please.

Malaika   August 3rd, 2009 8:18 am ET

if i was Mrs Jackson i was going to fight for everything that belongs to Michael, his kids , his Estate... everything, until Jesus' second coming. dnt give up Mrs Jackson!!!

Junior   August 3rd, 2009 8:25 am ET



AEG LIVE WAS DEFINETLY INTO IT BIG TIME & NOT JUST FOR MICHAEL’S LIFE INSURANCE POLICY( $300,000 million pounds in US Currency that’s about $650,000 million dollars paid for the loss of 50 show tour date insured by Lloyds of London)! THAT IS WHY THEY INSULATED MICHAEL JACKSON WITH A BUNCH OF QAAKE DOCTORS AND BLOOD SUCKING BUSINESS MANAGERS, SUCH AS DR TOME TOME ( Who recently turned in $5.5 MILLION to Executors in MJ’s Last Will and Testament – JOHN BRANCA AND JOHN MCCLAIN) AND MR FRANK DILEO( Business Manger who on the morning of June 25th 2009, the MJ was murdered was first to receive a call from MJ stating that he was sick, instead of calling 911 he called the good heart specialist DR Murray as reported by CNN on that day only!). ANOTHER FACT ABOUT THIS CASE ISTHAT DR MURRAY WAS ALSO THE LIFE INSURANCE DOCTOR THAT PASSED MJ’S PHYSICAL.




Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:37 am ET

Katherine has 40% and once she gets full custody of her grandchildren(as we know she will), that will mean she has 80%. Common now, she needs complete control over this estate. She is linient enough to want just some control over hos baby's estate. I think she's supposed to know the whereabout of every dime and nickle. It's the fruits of her labor and she deserves to have control.

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:38 am ET

meant to write ".....her baby's estate"

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 8:39 am ET

Good Morning Honorine. How are you?

Eva D.   August 3rd, 2009 8:47 am ET

I loved your new book so much I read it over the week-end. It was very entertaining. Thank you for sharing your life with us.

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 8:47 am ET

I also pray to God that Katherine wins control of Micheal's estate, for the sake of those 3 beatiful children.

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:49 am ET

Perfect Jacquelyn.

Good morning y'all.

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 8:52 am ET

Good evening from Melbourne

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:54 am ET

Each time i get on the computer, checking my fellow bloggers is the first thing i wanna do( and do). It's like i miss my fellow MJ fans, and meeting just about the same people all the time, feels good people.

Luv from this end, MJ FANS.

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 8:55 am ET


Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:55 am ET

Good evening Australia.

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 8:56 am ET

Good afternoon Germany.

jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 8:59 am ET

It is great chatting with all you great people. We have so many different opinions, but share the same love for Micheal Jackson.
Long Live the KIng of Rock.!!!!!

idzan ismail of Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   August 3rd, 2009 9:01 am ET

It rightfully belongs to Katherine Jackson.
She needs the money to bring up the three kids.
Once Katherine gets the money, everyone in the Jackson family will get their share too.
Nothing for the AEG, please..

Maureen (UK)   August 3rd, 2009 9:15 am ET

Good luck Katherine Jackson. No one wants Sony to profit from MJ's future sales. Don't leave the estate in the wrong hands !
Thanks Larry. x

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 9:21 am ET

morning guys
Jacqulyn –what was up with this john@LA last night

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 9:21 am ET

Yes, JENNY, it's just amazing to see how far MJ had all of us his fans from all corners of the world.


Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 9:24 am ET


We think he was a spy for CNN, or for a certain someone from LA for the opposing team

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 9:29 am ET

–I couldn't believe how he came on and was attacking us–what the H_____.

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 9:42 am ET

I need to see this guy. Who the H... he think he is.

Junior   August 3rd, 2009 9:42 am ET

Excerpts from Vanity Fair Magazine:
The Jewish mafia and the Italian Mafia behind the conspiracy that murdered Michael Jackson!

Take General Maximo Overkill, for instance. That's his soldier of fortune's nom de guerre. His real name is Gordon Novel, and he moves in those spooky circles which he calls "high strange," where conspiracies flourish and cloak-and-dagger investigations overlap. He cut his teeth working for former New Orleans district attorney Jim Garrison on the J.F.K. assassination, and he boasts that he served as former attorney general Ramsey Clark's "Doberman" at Waco. Several weeks before the trial began, I was put in touch with him through Steven Saltzman—the son of a James Bond–film producer—in Monaco, who told me that Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine had been seeking Novel's advice on how to stop the trial. According to Novel, the Jacksons believed that it was all a grand conspiracy, that the accuser's mother was being paid by Jackson's enemies, who wanted to take control of his major economic asset, the Sony/ATV Music catalogue, which holds publishing rights to 251 Beatles songs and works by scores of other pop artists. Jackson claimed that the main conspirators were Sony Records; its former president, Tommy Mottola; and Santa Barbara County district attorney Tom Sneddon, the prosecutor, who also investigated Jackson in 1993. The catalogue is held jointly by Jackson and Sony, and Jackson's share is mortgaged for more than $200 million. If Jackson defaults, Sony has first chance to buy his half as early as this coming December. (A Sony spokesperson said, "We are not going to comment on any aspect of this.")
Jackson explained to Novel that the conspirators had introduced him to Al Malnik, a wealthy Miami attorney who had once represented Meyer Lansky. Malnik later helped Jackson refinance his loans. That was not what Jackson told Novel, however. According to Novel, Jackson said he was lured to Malnik's house in Miami Beach by film director(Known for Rush Hour Movies) Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic. He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who Jackson claimed had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in the singer's business. Jackson also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion, but he did not tell Novel that he later put Malnik on the board of the Sony/ATV Music partnership. (Reached by telephone, Malnik scoffed at the idea of a conspiracy or of his having any Mafia ties. He said, "It does not make any sense." Ratner confirmed that he took Jackson to Malnik's house and that he considers Malnik a father figure.)
Jackson and Mottola have been at odds for years. In New York in July 2002, Jackson staged a public protest against Mottola with the Reverend Al Sharpton, calling him a racist and "very, very devilish." He called for a boycott of Sony, which is believed to have contributed to Mottola's ouster from the company six months later. Jackson is reportedly so frightened of Mottola that one of the reasons he surrounded himself with Nation of Islam guards in 2003 was that he thought Mottola could put out a hit on him. (Mottola could not be reached for comment.)
Jackson wanted Novel to find the links among these characters. Novel told me in March that "he believes he'll get convicted. He believes the judge, the D.A., and the Sony guys are a conspiracy to take over his money."
On March 17, nearly a month into the trial, Novel went to Neverland to strategize. Maximo's first thought was that Michael was in need of "an extreme makeover" of what he calls "imaggio." Jackson drove him around the ranch in an old pickup truck. "He acted like he was scared silly," Novel told me. His fear was "six foot thick. He kept asking me what prison was like. Can he watch TV and movies there? He wanted me to stop the show." When I asked Novel what that meant, he related that Michael said, "'I want this trial stopped.' He said the judge and Sneddon had rigged the game."

Michael said on the phone that what was happening to him was the result of racism. He told Jesse Jackson in the radio interview, "I'm totally innocent, and it's just very painful. This has been kind of a pattern among black luminaries in this country." He told him he got strength from the examples of Nelson Mandela, Jack Johnson, Muhammad Ali, and Jesse Owens. Novel told me he had said to Michael, "You can either be a victim or a warrior." In his interview, Michael told Jesse Jackson, "I'm a warrior."

Novel told me they had discussed the conspiracy at length on the phone. In the interview, Jesse Jackson asked Michael point-blank about the catalogue and what was in it. Michael said that "it's a huge catalogue. It's very valuable, it's worth a lot of money, and there is a big fight going on right now as we speak about that." He added, "I can't comment on it. There's a lot of conspiracy. I'll say that much."

If Jackson beats these charges, he reportedly has big plans for revenge. A tour called "Framed" has been suggested. There is a deal of about $35 million on the table to sell as a package Neverland—which will be turned into a Graceland-like theme park—and his other assets: book rights, movie rights, even cell-phone ringtones. Only Jackson's heavily encumbered song catalogues are not included. Jackson told Gordon Novel he wants to bring suit against Sony on financial-conspiracy charges. His former business adviser Myung-Ho Lee, who once sat on the board of Sony/ ATV Music, says that Sony's half of the catalogue is unprofitable, due partly to heavy administrative costs, while Michael's share is very profitable. "He's in a box," Lee told me. "The only way out of the box is to sue Sony."

article written by Maureen Orth is a Vanity Fair special correspondent
and National Magazine Award winner.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 9:46 am ET

Thank you for that Junior.

Of course it was a conspiracy. Tommy Mottola is a very evil man. You see what happened to Mariah Carey. I hope he get what he deserves. And the nerve of that man speaking out when Michael died. He was lying through his rotten teeth.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 9:51 am ET

Thank you Junior-Again Tommy Mottola--

Maureen (UK)   August 3rd, 2009 9:54 am ET

Hi Larry,
Could we please invite Rev Al Sharpton on the programme to dicuss MJ's affairs with Mattola ? Also Mr Leonard Rowe.
I made some comments last night about "Dom Snotten" which weren't put on the blogs, so I'll leave that for the moment.

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 9:56 am ET

What a scary life. Conspiracies, betrayal, exploitation.......................
People threatened him left and right, gave decieving advice ..... It's a shame!!!!!!!

suzy   August 3rd, 2009 9:59 am ET

After hearing katherine speak herself last night, it leaves no doubt that she considers herself married, not separated from Joe. She also says he is not being barred from seeing the grandchildren. katherine's lawyers, have been on recent tv shows, stating that they represent both katherine and Joe.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 10:10 am ET

Honorine–part of what was said is that AEG was keeping Michael away from everybody and since everyboy was on their payroll they basically did what they were told. It was also brought out that AEG knew that MJ had a problem with prescription drugs and instead trying of trying to help, they surrounded him with enablers. It was also mentioned that They rehired everyone that Michael had fired. It was also brought out that by one of the reporteres that Dr. Murray had been seen at this particualr LA strip joint prior to Michael's death drinking and stuff. Did I miss anything Jacquelyn.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 10:11 am ET

I figured I could post it here as long as I don't name the network. They would probably delete it.

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 10:19 am ET



suzy   August 3rd, 2009 10:19 am ET

My understanding is that MJ brought in Dr. Murray himself. He insisted on him. AEG, wanted to hire a doctor in Europe, once over there. Michael changed their minds. It sadly appears, that MJ has been addicted to various drugs for years, and had many enablers, way before AEG came into the picture. It is also reported that on a tour , years, ago, that he took an anesthesiologist along, that gave him propopal, also. Suppossedly Janet Jackson was prevented from doing an intervention long before this, by MJ's "guards", and that was long before AEG came along. I have no idea whether AEG has done something nefarious or not, but clearly, the pattern of enabling and drug use has been for a long time...

Mara   August 3rd, 2009 10:31 am ET

Good Morning Jacquelyn – they wouldn't let me post my comment and it wasn't even that serious! Have a great Monday!

Good Luck to you Mrs. Jackson!!

Mara   August 3rd, 2009 10:36 am ET

Oh yeah and thanks CNN for bringing back James Earl Jones's voice for "This is CNN". It's about time!

Honorine   August 3rd, 2009 10:43 am ET


This is just outragious. I can't imagine MJ withstood all these. That man was living in hell. This man had been suffering in the hands of these killers. How greedy the human being is. Manipulators, traitors.

Even if justice doesn't take it's course physically(which i'll really dread), i know it in my heart that the spirit of God will move and bring justice. Even if MJ'S spirit wants to come back and hunt these killers, he'll choose not to. That's just how gentle and kind MJ was. But, we want dem to go down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really!

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 10:48 am ET

Yes, MJ was addicted to prespription drugs prior to getting involved with AEG and The enablers that were with him prior to AEG should definitely take part of the blame. We heard from AEG that MJ insisted on Dr. Murray, we don't know if that is true or not. It was reported that he had an anesthesiologist with him on tour–how do we know that's true-The media is making up all sorts of stuff. Janet Jackson was prevented from doing an intervention by MJ's body guards, why do you think ? what would they want him clean–He would've probably fired every single one of them.

Michelle D. Ontario ,Canada   August 3rd, 2009 10:50 am ET

I hope Mrs.Jackson gets control and they have to be careful so Joe Jackson won't get his gruby hands on it .Katherine is the person Micheal trusted and i hope for the best for her .

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 10:54 am ET

Why would they give the control to Kathirine when there is a clear will with 2 persons apointed?

She is 80 years old and unless she has lot experinece of buisness and legal work and unless it can be proved that there is something wrong with this will, they wont give her control of his estate.

AEG has nothing do do with Michaels will.

I know you all care about Michaels children and that you are convinced that there is something wrong his death, but taht doesnt mean that there is something wrong with every piece of his will taht you dont like.

Michael definately dont need any money anymore. His children will surley be supported and probably not lack any thing they need. They will grow up and earn them self the money they need for the future.

The persons having the control over the estate will definately be pverlooked by both family, lawyers and fans so they cannot do anything illegeal. Dont worry about that.

I dont know how maybe of you that are educated in law or are attorneys but the law has to be followed and it is very important to keep emotions and feeling outside the legal decisions.

I hope all this will be sorted out in private and far from the public.

Mara   August 3rd, 2009 11:07 am ET

OMG Lisa I know you didn't just say that.

Kaherine is Michael's mom she should have control of his estate, she will then hire legal advisors that the family trusts.

Lawyers or not they are human beings and out for the almighty dollar.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 11:09 am ET

AEG has everything to do with this well. Its their people in charge of it.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 11:11 am ET

Lisa s.
I don't believe anyone on here said anything about AEG being involved in Michael's will. I believe what was said was that The executors of the estate are not allowing Mrs. Jackson to see the contract that MJ signed.

lex   August 3rd, 2009 11:13 am ET

looks like cnn has finally pulled thr stuff 2gether and not bein another media headquater

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 11:14 am ET

Obviously something is not right about the Will or anything else, why else they wont let Katherine see it?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 11:14 am ET

Michael's mother needs to be the executor of his estate period. Why should her age matter? She can certainly hire her own attorneys to manage the estate. I know that Michael named John Branca and John Mclaiin, but if a good enough reason is shown to the court, they can be removed.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 11:16 am ET


A will is there for a reason. And Michael has stated clearly how he wanted it to be in his will. Unless there is something wrong or unclear with the will you cant change that as it is a legal document. It was Michaels money, he decied what he wanted to do with them.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 11:16 am ET


Shhhh, dont jinx it 🙂

lex   August 3rd, 2009 11:17 am ET

oops lol

lex   August 3rd, 2009 11:19 am ET

and remeber this will was made b4 the fraud child malistation trial and his mom was w/ him evry step of the way so tht another will out thr

mitch   August 3rd, 2009 11:41 am ET

we all know jakson the negative 80th is just trying to get rich off of her sons death. Shes just going to sell it all and make money

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 11:42 am ET

Linda from New York:

And what is a good reason to you?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 11:50 am ET

Lisa S
Have you taken a look at the will? check it out–

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 11:51 am ET

Linda from New York:

I did weeks ago

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 11:54 am ET

Lisa S

Look at the Will, what stands out to you?

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 11:55 am ET


I ve looked at it several times. The only question I had was why one person backed out.

What is it you want me to look at?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 11:55 am ET

Did you notice how MJ's intial's are different everytime- and his signature is a little off.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 11:57 am ET

Lisa S

Thats what we been trying to figure out. Unless he knows something that he wants no part of

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:01 pm ET

You know what I notice no other media outlet is playing KATHERINE JACKSON speaking for the first time since Michael's death. No I know they are not looking for the truth.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:01 pm ET

Linda from New York:

That is for the lawyers to sort out and if they have said it is a valid document it means that they have taken the signatures as originals.

Why would you say that Katherine and not Joe is seeking control over the estate? After all, he has more experience of buisness?

Have you read Katherines autobiography?

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:04 pm ET


I am pretty sure the Jackson Family have something up their sleeve. As soon as they get the custody out of the way, it would be moving full speed ahead. Did you hear Katherine last night?

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 12:09 pm ET


Your posts have been very informative. Thank You. This is so much bigger than I initally thought. from the moment mj died I knew there was a lot more to it than Dr Murray being the dumbest Dr that ever lived. i never imagined it was this big though. it all makes perfect sense and absolutely blows me away.

There has been so much new info the last few days that my brain is still trying to digest it all. I hope and pray things go Katherines way today.

last night after Geraldo, my mother who has never seen the REAL martin bashir interview (Take 2) wanted to watch it. I put it on for her on youtube. Although I have seen it before, a few things occured to me as I was watching it a 2nd time. I think that MJ keeping his kids face covered was NOT just about the general public being able to identify them. i think it was more about what was going on and his fear of potential harm to them. he mentioned the Linberg baby and briefly touched on a conspiracy when he was being asked about this songs not being number 1 in US when they were in the rest of the world.

I am so sad over this and i just cant believe that they really pulled if off and Mj is gone. He wasnt paraniod it was ALL real. THEY JUST CANT GET WHAT THEY WANTED EVER!!! (THE CATALOG)

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:13 pm ET

Yes, I heard her on a bad telefone line, is that the interview you mean?

Joe is totally mr Niceguy and you will understand that eventually.

Did you read Katherines autobiography? It tells you a lot about their family life... unless you think that AEG controlled what was written in that as well 😉

Everybody attcks Debbie Rowe but after all she gave Michael 2 beautiful children.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 12:14 pm ET

I guess you didn't notice that executors are also the witnesses?

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Lisa S

Lol, Funny.

But let say, (dont attack me all) what if Klein was the father and was the sperm donor, and Michael didnt know it, what if he had ulterior motives. Did you read my scenario in the other post?

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 12:16 pm ET

On TMZ right now, they are telling exactly what is going on in court right now. They update every 5 min or so.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 12:24 pm ET

Lisa S:

I was one of the people who thought Joe Jackson was a horrible person . I do believe that he did hit Michael–but as Mrs. Jackson said that was 39 years ago. It is a known fact that Most Grandparents spoil their grandchildren; I doubt very much that Mr. Jackson will be treating Michaels' kids the way Michael was treated. Don't be silly-why on earth would we think that AEG controlled Mrs. Jackson's autobiography. Yes , Debbie Rowe gave michael 2 beautiful children; but she also gave up her parental rights not once , but twice. What sort of mother does that.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:26 pm ET


No, i wont attack you and i hope you dont take feel attacked either. That is not my pupose. I just have a different look at this whole thing than you and i think it is an interesting discussion.

If Dr Klein was the ulterior motives do you think of..?

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:29 pm ET

12:24 - The judge just said Klein has no legal standing to lodge an objection ... that Michael Jackson and Debbie Rowe are the parents.


b   August 3rd, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Junior – Thank you.

OMG! I can't imagine he lived such a scary and sad life. Maybe this has been planned for years and years. Maybe those 1993 and 2003 accusations were brought up with the help of 'them' to bring him down. But he was strong and he fought till the end.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Linda from New york:

What happens when a will is found is that the court will look at it an decide if it is valid or not. If they find any thing that is not right, they will declare it not valid. So we dont need to worry about that. That will be sorted out, sooner or later.

I think also it affected Michael a lot that his dad was unfaithful to his mother. It probably hurt him more than himself being hit.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Larry, I think there are several issues here:

Why doesn't AEG want to share the business documents? What is in them that needs to be protected with a confidentiality agreement?
AEG petitioned into the estate matter, they need to be transparent. It is to everyone's benefit.

The Family need to be involved at some level. Michael was their son. They should not have to go begging for an allowance from the estate, they should have input in how Michael's posthumous business activities are handled. This is painful business. Let the greiving family have a voice in the decision making process.

Could there be a more recent Will somewhere, yet to be located?

Peace to the family.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

With reguards to the whole je jackson abuse thing.

Every kid is different and their response to what happens is different. I believe that Joe did "strap" Michael and the other kids. I think he was just as much if not more emotionally abusive. I dont think that at the time, he realized how much damage he wa really doing. Michael was strong but at the same time very sensitive and I think that he needed a lot more love show form Joe than he ever received.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Lisa S

No, I dont feel like you attacking me, and I hope you dont feel like I am doing so. We are debating, which is a good thing. If Klein was a donor and along with Debbie's help, I see it as another way to extort more money from Michael.

b   August 3rd, 2009 12:38 pm ET

the judge names Katherine as the permanent guardian.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 12:38 pm ET

the Judge just gave katherine Permanent legal guardianship of the children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Lynn: I agree 100 % with you.

Jacquline: How would that money be extorted? How would Kleins sperm (cant believe im having this discussion 🙂 how would kleins sperm extort more money from Michael?

What if they mixed all sperms up and Klein and his boyfriend had a black baby....that would be evidence enough I guess...

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:45 pm ET

Lisa S

Me either. Lol, but hey it is interesting right. To have some hold over Debbie I guess so she dont shoot off at the mouth. I dont know. I will put all my thoughts down later. Maybe Michael wasnt aware of it in the beginning. There so many twist and turns, my head is starting to hurt.

Hey why Debbie lawyer wanted to delay, but whatever. KATHERINE WON FULL CUSTODY YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:47 pm ET


That was expected but does it mean that she agreed to Debbie Rowes demands?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 12:49 pm ET

Lisa S:
You're probably correct on the infideltiy issue; that definitely does do damage to your psyche. Probably one of the reasons why MJ did not have happy marriages. I' am not pretending to know his mindst.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:50 pm ET

12:42 The judge has just tentatively granted 83.5% of what was requested for the children's allowance. Specific amounts were not discussed.

12:41 - The lawyers are now discussing the allowance for Jackson's three kids.

12:40 - Debbie Rowe will have visitation rights with her two kids and will continue getting spousal support based on the agreement she struck with Michael several years ago.

12:39 - The judge granted Katherine a financial allowance for 6 months retro from the time Michael died. The amount of the allowance wasn't discussed in open court.

12:37 - The judge just named Katherine permanent guardian of all three kids.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 12:50 pm ET


Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 12:52 pm ET

the wording is "permanent guardian" sorry

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 12:55 pm ET

Now the kids have to deal with another shocker. Hey I wonder will she reveal that she is there mother. Or would she continue letting them call her Debbie?

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 12:58 pm ET

Linda from New York:

Yes, and where is that "love child" now? Does he fight for that child as much as for Michaels children?

b   August 3rd, 2009 12:59 pm ET

Jacquelyn – that's what I thought too.

She wasn't in their lives all these years. Wouldn't it be strange for the kids.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 1:04 pm ET


Im sure they will be fine. She seems to be a nice woman and until proven the oposite I will see her as one as well. The children are old enough to understand how childrend are made and hopefully Michael has told them everything.

Most children connect very easily. Just look at how easily most children connect to a new class teacher.

And Debbie has horses.....

But the most important thing that will unconsiously convince them will be the fact that their beloved father chose her to be their mother.

Samantha - South Africa   August 3rd, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Hey Guys,I just found this rather long comment on TMZ but it certainly has a point about what Dr Murray got up to on the day Michael passed away:

The real deal is that Murry should be charged with quite a few things starting with tampering with a crime scene
up to second degree murder. Murry found Michael unresponsive at around 9: am he quickly turned on the heat and started a fire in the fire place to change the temperature of the bodies core. He then searched through the second floor looking for money. Finally he called security they showed up and called rescue. (why did he holler for prince and security instead of telling the chef to call 911?) When rescue got there Murry refused to allow the professionals to do their job. The brought a defibrillator in Murry did not let them nor did he use it himself. When the paramedics realized Michael was dead Murry would not allow them to pronounce him dead. (That would make it a potential crime scene police would be called he ain’t no dummy.) In the ambulance he still would not allow paramedics to take over ( he didn’t want them to feel Michaels skin he was cold to the touch) Murry then disappeared from the hospital. He put some of the evidence into his sister in laws car. Something happened and he bolted leaving the car behind. The Jackson family went to Michaels home to secure his valuable collections and some of the children’s belongings. Prince told Latoya where Michaels safe was (they had not been there since he moved in several months before. When i arrived she saw that the safe was wide opened. And the things that Latoya was told was there were all gone. Michael often left the safe open when it was just the kids and himself in the home. Prince assured Latoya that there was "a bunch" of money in the safe. Also in Michael's top drawer rolled up in socks she found around ten thousand $ in hundreds. She and Janet took several art pieces they were afraid police would destroy (The police destroyed never land.) as they searched for evidence. We never entered Murry room they only went into Michaels and the children’s rooms. The moving truck was used to take Michaels $30,000. bedroom suite, many paintings and vases there were several things that the children needed/wanted (they refused to go back to the house) Janet had movers take both the children’s bedroom suits the trucks left and took all items to a rented storage unit. Nothing was touched in the room we were told Michael was in. No drugs were mess with. sometime people the media believes are stupid, do have some sense.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:04 pm ET

I feel really bad for Blanket. Poor thing, I hope Debbie Rowe's Maternal instincts eventually kick in and maybe she can be a mom to Blanket also-I know I am dreaming, right.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:07 pm ET

I said before that I don't think the MJ would've been that cruel not to let his children know who their mother is. Has anyone from the Jackson family ever said that they only know her as Miss Debbie.

Samantha - South Africa   August 3rd, 2009 1:08 pm ET

@ Linda,yeah I also feel sorry for Blanket(he actually thinks that Michael is gone on holiday) and I hope that Debbie treats him as if he were her own.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:12 pm ET

samantha-south africa

It just breaks your heart.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 1:15 pm ET

Well, if Debbie is any kind of person at all (and I'm still on the fence about that) then she would certainly take Blanket in too. I guess it remains to be seen.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Lynn, Linda & Samantha

Debbie barely treated her own kids like her own. Why would she someone else.

Plus she has no claims on Blanket. But when and if, which is a big IF, she does visit, if they play games or whatever she would include Blanket. That's if he allows her too.

Who wants to bet that the Jackson family knows who Blankets mother is, if they dont its a surrogate like Michael said. But it will be handle and all will work out.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 1:23 pm ET

I hope it works out for the kids sake. They have some much to deal with. And Debbie better not play with their emotions. If she is any kind of woman she wont.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:25 pm ET

O course it will work out, especially since Mrs Jackson has permanent guardianship.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 1:33 pm ET

You probably kill me for this but this was Michaels job. He chose to have 3 children with secret mums, secret to 2 of the kids in the beginning and secret (? we dont know really) to the third. It is same as for those who have children with different fathers. Even if you dont want to have the father/mother in the childs life you still have to tell them about their background.

I have a friend who found out she was adopted when she was 17. Not very fun being in the middle of indentity seeking adolecents...

So I think this is Michaels responsibility, part of being a parent, and somehow I cant think he didnt tell them and let them know. He is to smart for not having done that.

Some in the jackson family knows maybe, but not all of them. It is not the first "complications" they have had with grandchildren. Just think about Jermaines two children born at the same time almost with two different mums? or his and randys children who has the same mum? Or Joes child born in the mid 70s? Michael Jacksons children are probably the easiest ones to sort when it comes to custody....

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 1:41 pm ET


Thanks for making my head spin even more with the last part, lol. Yes it was Michael responsibility. And being the man he was I think he told them, in my opinion if that was the case. But like I said, and you said as well, I believe some of the members know as well. Thats not something a person in Michael's position would keep to himself especially in his line of work.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:42 pm ET

Of course if it was Michael's job and that's why I think the kids may know.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:43 pm ET

Are you trying to have us go on a liquid lunch or what?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:44 pm ET

What's the lates news–on the hearing

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 1:48 pm ET

They are on a break right now. Thats the latest

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Linda from new york:

How about a freshly made organic juice...apricot or what was it she had in those juices she kept talking about all the time?

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 1:53 pm ET


Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 1:55 pm ET

LOL, YOU two need to stop.:)

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 1:56 pm ET

ooh... how could i miss that...she kept repeating the ingredients in those juices over and over again....

It is because it is evening here in Sweden...I had a lovely lunch when you guys were fast a sleep 🙂

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 2:00 pm ET

Lisa S
Yes she did keep repeating those ingredients; sounded like a parrot if you ask me

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 2:00 pm ET

No, I shouldnt give Kai a go...I liked her...I just wondered why she was so specific with what kind of veggies she had in the if it matters....or maybe it does...what do you think....Jessica Fletc...sorry Jacquelyn 🙂

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Lisa S

Jessica Fletch-I love it

Jacquelyn–did you mail the information

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Lisa S
She's pretty good isn't she.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 2:06 pm ET


HaHa, lol. She had a thing for my Michael. With that, I believe she wanted to show the public that there was some type of organization in certain things plus make her words sound believeable. Thats why she might have brought the children's gift to her in the equation

I am mailing them out in the morning, The post office line was going a in swirl it was so packed in there.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Well, that 30 min court break has been going for 60 now! I'm anxious about this will stuff. The judge is doing good so far, hopefully he/she keeps it up.

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Jacqueline: Yes, I think she wanted to make sure that she gave him good food. If he didnt eat it, it was not her fault and everything she prepared was FRESH and ORGANIC 🙂

I was thinkng about something else, Michael youngest sister is 35 now....Why is it Joe is so concerned about Omer but never talks about his own "love child". If you feel a need to talk, shoudnt you rather focus on your own buisness than others. She was also a child once that was born under unfortunate circumstances.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 2:34 pm ET

Lisa S

Oh you must of didnt hear the latest. Apparently that is not Joe's child thats Janet child with Debarge.

Plus a one night stand is not a love child. Why do people keep saying

lex   August 3rd, 2009 2:35 pm ET

where r u guys gettin the updates on the hearing frm

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 2:40 pm ET


Tmz and cnn

lex   August 3rd, 2009 2:42 pm ET

klien is such an idiot he needs 2 sit his asz down n not ruin anythng

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Court is resuming

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 2:51 pm ET

are we staying on this blog? iam haveing internet issues 🙁 so if I disapear it is not my fault

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 2:52 pm ET

AEG has to provide the contract!! BOOYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 2:53 pm ET


We can. We all waiting for the decision on the estate. So maybe its better

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 2:53 pm ET

It was just order that AEG provide copy of contract to Katherine!!!!!!!!!

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 2:54 pm ET

So now they will probably set a deadline for AEG to produce and then set another hearing so Katherines team can review the documents

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 2:55 pm ET



Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 2:57 pm ET


Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Lori and Jacquelyn:

This is just too unbelievable–We need to start our legal advice business--LOL

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 2:59 pm ET

Getting those documents was one of the big hurdles. Now they can see what is going on. I read somewhere that MJ's safe was open and empty. Wonder if that is where the "missing" updated estate documents are,,,,

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:00 pm ET

I saw that too Lori. I wouldn't doubt it!!!

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 3:01 pm ET


Wow. 8 year old mother....that is starting early.....well, you will not need any DNA tests there...she is a copy of Joe Jackson, poor girl.

Any updates about the hearing? I am in Europe and cant watch the TMZ.

Willl anybody put up Larrykinglive on youtube when its been aired?

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:01 pm ET

I wish tmz would use a better photo of michael

lex   August 3rd, 2009 3:03 pm ET

did thy evr find the 100,000 dollars dat was missin along wit some jewerly dat LaToya said mj kept in the house

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Lisa, on the internet

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Recess for lunch cport will be back in an hour

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:06 pm ET

90 minutes actually.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:07 pm ET

2002 Will was just admitted into probate with the co-executors that were in it named and they are taking another break!

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 3:08 pm ET

She's Bad, She's Bad-
Come On
(You Know she's Bad, she's Bad-
Come On, You Know
And she definelty needs control right now
Just To Tell You Once Again,
Who's Bad . . .

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:10 pm ET

HA HA, Agreed, she is bad and I like it!!!

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:16 pm ET

Who’s Bad . . .


Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:16 pm ET

Well they have to admit the will and authenticate it, I think. Sure would be great if a more recent will surfaces

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 3:16 pm ET

In an interview last week with CBS, McMillan estimated the Jackson estate was worth $2 billion, while the executors have estimated in court that its value is around $500 million.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:19 pm ET

does that surprise you? and AEG must have petioned in because they think they are owed $ from the estate

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:20 pm ET

well since court is in recess; I have a new topic.

Do you think Debbie Rowe and Dr. Arnie might be related? Look at their pictures ... just saying

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:21 pm ET

3:00 - The judge just admitted Jackson's 2002 will into probate. The will names John Branca and John McClain as co-executors. We know Katherine has a beef with that. The question - will she challenge the co-executors or possibly ask that she be named as a third executor. Court is in recess for an hour-and-a half. Stay tuned.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:22 pm ET


I am feeling sick now. But no way they cant be. That means..... no I wont say it.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:24 pm ET

I am thinking that they will go in after lunch and move for a postponement so AEG can produce the documents and Katerine's team should get a week or so to review them. I am thinking they may just set this puppy over for 2 weeks.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:25 pm ET

It means arnie could be an uncle – LOL

lex   August 3rd, 2009 3:25 pm ET

jacquelyn r u thinkin the same thing im thinkin ewww dats really gross

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:26 pm ET

Is tmz going to stream during the whole lunch break?

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:27 pm ET

The fact that the safe was open and stuff stolen could be a real good card for her lawyers to play cause iireally think there HAD to be a more recent will with all that has gone on since 2002.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:28 pm ET

DId they ever say who drafted this Will?

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:31 pm ET

No they didnt say. But they will have to tell.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:33 pm ET

I wonder if anyone has looked into if MJ could have had any safe deposit boxes anywhere.

I think it could be a possibility.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:33 pm ET


Yes it means Arnie could be both uncle and, uh nevermind I wont say it. I refuse to.


I am thinking exactly what you thinking :), and those thoughts need to be pushed back from my mind.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:35 pm ET

you girls' minds have gone to a dark place. swear i was only thinkin uncle. i'll be back later

lex   August 3rd, 2009 3:36 pm ET

i need 2 think about somethng else i wnt beleive it nope nope nope nope

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:40 pm ET

DId you see this info:

The hearing was attended by more than 20 attorneys representing a variety of interests, including Sony/ATV, a music catalogue in which Jackson had a substantial stake, concert promoter AEG Live, and Columbia Pictures. Several of the attorneys are also handling issues in Britney Spears' conservatorship case, and an afternoon hearing scheduled in that matter was postponed.

Dana   August 3rd, 2009 3:40 pm ET

I think those 2 greedy people who now have control of Michaels estate should relequesh it to Katherin Jackson. I mean these 2 men just want to get rich off of Michael. How dare these 2 greedy *&^%$# give them an allowance, she should fight for that . they did not build that place Michael they only want the money as the greed continues.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 3:44 pm ET

Thats a lot of lawyers!!! Boy, there must REALLY be some stuff to hide.

Dana   August 3rd, 2009 3:44 pm ET

That Mclan is no friend of Michaels he is a greedy selfish piece of ^&%%$.
and i think the reason debbie did not ask for money is she probably made a deal with these selfish %$%^&* to get some of that money so her and the good dr. can live in luxery thats why she did nt for money.

Toni   August 3rd, 2009 3:46 pm ET

HI EVERYBODY!!! I only have a minute, then duty calls. I am soso happy Mrs. J got custody.Now, if she gets what we want her to with the will, I say we have a little party with Larry tonight??!!

Sorry folks, but I still dont think Debbie deserves squat. She deserted those two children twice for money, she shouldnt get a 3rd chance. I am a mother of two beautiful little girls adopted from China. They were left abandoned in a train station and church step. It's a very touchy topic for me. So I'll stop with that one.

And dont forget that alot had happened between the two executors named in Michaels will, and Michael. That was in 2002, and after the trials, Michael wanted nothing to do with them. There was alot of annimosity there, and that is what Mrs.J is worried about. Had there been a continued good trusting relationship with Michael and these two executors, I dont think Kaherine would be saying anything.

I could just kick him in the butt for not updating his will. BUT.......did he want to and was STOPPED?????Hmmmmm

Dana   August 3rd, 2009 3:46 pm ET

As far as Mrs. angel Katherine Jackson i have 3 words for her regarding her fighting for the rights to Michaels estate....

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 3:47 pm ET


Exactly. And they making it painfully obvious they do.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 3:48 pm ET

What was this animosity about that was going on with Michael and the executors

eJay   August 3rd, 2009 3:50 pm ET

Mothers can always be trusted.

Dana   August 3rd, 2009 3:50 pm ET

As far as Mrs. Angel Katherine Jackson i have 3 words for her regarding her fight for Michaels estate...... YOU GO GIRL.

MIMI   August 3rd, 2009 3:54 pm ET



Lori   August 3rd, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Who is to say MJ didn't update his estate plan and it has yet to be found...remember the safe was open and empty.

lex   August 3rd, 2009 3:59 pm ET

i think datz wat murray was doin in dat 3 hour time period b4 callin 911....lookin 4 the will i bet thy somewho got it outta mj where his latest will was located

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 4:01 pm ET

That judge better come thru and start to right this whole wrong TODAY!! There is a lot of zeros between 500 million and 2 billion!!!

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:05 pm ET

Lynn: I can't count that high!!!!

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 4:06 pm ET

I think Katherine is going to be very careful in dealing with this issue of fighting to run part of MJ's estate. They even reported at the beggining of the court proceedings in CNN that it will definately be the case that she does not contest it coz if she does and losses, she could be doomed for good and could even loose everything she has.....My God!!!...I can't possibly think of that....what I want is just all the positives for Katherine ofcourse.....

Thats why the court has now given the two not-so-popular executors to continue as administrators......Probably way along the line when things have reached an advanced stage Katherine could have a try at it....IT IS THEORITICALLY DEVASTATING TO THINK SOMEONE LIKE KATHERINE HAVE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS ABOUT HER OWN SON'S ESTATE........

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 4:06 pm ET


What if Murray does have it? You know what he can accomplish by holding it for ransom over several people heads. Let AEG, etc.

Toni   August 3rd, 2009 4:07 pm ET

Linda, He felt betrayed by them before and after the trials for some reason, and had stated that he did not trust them anymore. Exactly why, I dont know. But that is why Katherine is skeptical about them still being the executors, and why she wants to be included on the decisions. I thought you all knew that already!! Thats why I get angry when people say she is only doing it for more money. She is scared of what is going to happen to Michaels life work. She has witnessed the blood, sweat, and TEARS from her son through these 50 yrs, and deserves every right to try to preserve his life work. Gotta go. Bye.

Toni   August 3rd, 2009 4:10 pm ET

KATHERINE........GIVE EM H- – – – !!!!!

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:11 pm ET

I don't have acces to TMZ at work–more news.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 4:13 pm ET


That thought never crossed my mind but you are so right!!!



Your right too. She is walking on thin ice. I dont even want to think about that. It would be devestating. Her best bet and probably what she goes for is co-executor.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 4:16 pm ET

They are not back yet. 15 more minutes.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:16 pm ET

hey guys check this out

Jackson abruptly left Branca in 1990 when record company mogul David Geffen convinced him that Branca exerted too much control over him. Jackson re-hired him three years later, and served as one of Jackson’s representatives on the Board of Sony/ATV. In 2006, Branca resigned as Jackson’s lawyer and sold back his equity interest in Sony/ATV.

Two weeks before he died, Jackson rehired Branca.

b   August 3rd, 2009 4:16 pm ET

Well said Toni.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:18 pm ET

Can you please tell me -why is it that everything that happened to Michael Jackson that is being played out right now–Happend within the last 3 months of his life?

MIMI   August 3rd, 2009 4:18 pm ET



Lori   August 3rd, 2009 4:20 pm ET

There sure was a lot of hiring and firing and rehiring in that 2 week period wasn't there....

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 4:25 pm ET

True, Katherine really needs good advice and judgement with the estate issue.......definately those two are trying to get their hands a little too far with MJ's estate........really Katherine needs a way out to see a bit of light down the tunnel with her son's estate......

I think the best advice for her would be to try for co-executors as you have stated Lynn.......whether it doesn't put her in that danger as well!!???......I AM REALLY AFRAID ON THIS ONE......

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:27 pm ET

I know very weird–It was like a revolving door–

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Wonder if they all have written contract with MJ or if it was just a handshake deal?

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 4:32 pm ET

You know what, mabye katherine doesn't care about the money! If she lost her share, where would it go. To the kids and the charities right? She is 79 years old.

All the hiring and firing is definately weird too and it has got to have something to do with all of this and MJs death.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 4:40 pm ET

And it is slowly looking like they were all working on the same agenda.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 4:44 pm ET

The whole music industry and the people behind the scenes is mob affiliated. Joe will not let anything happen to his wife trust me on that.

The Judge seem to be good so far, I hope it stays that way.

Luda   August 3rd, 2009 4:46 pm ET

As the children are miners, shouldn't the Court approve first all the decisions the executors are taking regarding the estate in order to protect the children’s legacy?

I do believe there is a suspicious circle of relationships…..

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 4:46 pm ET

4:40 - The Jacksons have all filed back into court and the judge has taken the bench.

lex   August 3rd, 2009 4:48 pm ET

i swear if anythng else hapoens 2 the jackson family (AEG) all he11 is gonnabreak lose

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Katherine withdrew her petition to be in charge of the estate. Apparently she filed it before she knew a will existed. now they are going to address any issues she had with the executors.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 5:03 pm ET

TMZ reports that during the break, Branca and AEG reached a settlement regarding the merchandising and rehersal footage. Did not say what it is.

Linda from New York   August 3rd, 2009 5:08 pm ET

Gotta go-Fill me in later Jacquelyn--Send me an email

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Ok, Linda. Will do

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 5:18 pm ET

Things seem to be really working faster than we expected.......if Branca and AEG are already negotiating something over the merchandising and rehersal footage, then the ball seem rolling in the right direction.....anyway lets wait and see .......

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 5:23 pm ET

Thank you,Linda!

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 5:30 pm ET

Well...the ordered Katherine to have to sign the confidentiallity agreement before getting the documents.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 5:34 pm ET


Where did you find that at? TMZ is going to have coverage at 6PM eastern time. They dont have what else happened on TMZ right now??!!

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 5:36 pm ET

Wath that mean?Is that bad?

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 5:53 pm ET

I heard it on the live TMZ feed. Weitzman came out and made a brief statement. Said they agreed with the judge rulings. And that there are some future court dates coming up. Then all the reporters were chit chatting. Could swear I heard one say something about who drafted t he will. And that they would provide the documents once the confidentialty agreement was signed. Which I thought was odd because they reported earlier that AEG had to produce the documents, but nothing was mentioned about the confidentiality agreement. So I am confused. I will turn into my favorite cable news station for updates LOL

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

You see Lynn, thats what we thought...Katherine won't through herself into hot water by challenging the contents of that Will. GOOD FOR HER ANYWAY....its the only best thing she can do now.

My suspicion is now that, what will AEG or SONY do behind the scenes when they recognise that Katherine is still not having any say in the execution of MJ'S estate.....everybody who was always around MJ and his wealth seems never to be trusted......and what will make Branca and McClan so trustworthy anyway.......all a question of time.....

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 5:58 pm ET

Oh, I was on the live stream but I'm at work and there are no speakers so the sound fromthe tower is so quite I cant hear it.

GEEEEZE, I guess we'll never know what was in the agreement now!

TMZ made no mention like you said about the agreement having to be signed.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 6:00 pm ET

In case my previous post was unclear, I understood Weitzman to say that the contracts would be provided when they get the confidentiallity agreement

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 6:03 pm ET

It probably doesn't matter as long as the Jacksons see those documents.

I guess I am just really glad that I am not rich and famous

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

Does anybody know if Debbie Rowe got her demand about Joe staying away from the children or not?

I dont like Joe but I am mostly curious if you can have sucha demand, asking a person to stay away from his own house for the rest of his life and if you can get away with it. If so, that is evidence for that there is more to Joe Jackson than spanking Michael 39 years ago (how did Katherine know it was exactly 39 year and not 40 :-S....? Do they keep record about the spanking or is she talking about some specific incident? I know A LOT about the Jackson family (all though very little about their money buisnesses) but I dont recall any incident exactly 39 years ago, Anybody?

Lisa S   August 3rd, 2009 6:12 pm ET

Lori: You are very right! As long as the right persons get to see the document, it doesnt really matter if they are shown or not,

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 6:13 pm ET

...really true Lori, who cares whether they get the confidentiality report first before they release those documents or not......the most important thing now is that those contract documents have to fall into Katherine's hands for her to see what they agreed with MJ.......

Already most of us smell a fish with the documents and I just see them zittering to hand them over. Even if its not made public about the contract document, many are clever enough to put one and one together and know what was in those agreements as events continue..........

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Lisa S

Because thats what media was reporting.
Now at the custody hearing Debbie's lawyer tried to delay the permanent guardianship and just give Katherine custody. He didnt put the settlement offer on the table from last week. The judge declined and gave permanent custody to the kids. There was no judge clause as it should be

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 6:19 pm ET

I am getting really frustrated with TMZ now. What was the final result of the hearing? Does anybody know? As far as the will, executors, her requests etc?

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 6:24 pm ET

Did you guys heared just now,that MJ didnt die by diprivan?I am shocked.Thann wath he died from?

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 6:28 pm ET


Where you hear that? And who the freak leaking information if thats the case. I am so glad the family did there autopsy because if they leak information and the case is messed up they can still go with the second autopsy.

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 6:29 pm ET

...where did you get that Stu that MJ didn't die from dipravan!!??....

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 6:35 pm ET

....if it came from the reporters Stu, then we know why....they are always trying to attract public attention. They just have to say something to look like they know what is going on.......NONSENSE!!!......

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 6:36 pm ET

It was now in TMZ,2 reporters was unsvering for the peaples questions.

Lynn   August 3rd, 2009 6:38 pm ET

I just looked back at TM to and mabey they are still in court cause they have the play by play action up again but no new info for a long time now.

Jacquelyn   August 3rd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

I think the court thing is over. Thats what I got from TMZ

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

Thay gonna unsver later again for questions.

knowdalaw   August 3rd, 2009 6:53 pm ET

For the record, Katherine Jackson cannot be named an "Executor" on the Michael Jackson estate because she was named in the "Will" as a “Beneficiary”. No one who is a beneficiary can be named as an executor.

Michael Jackson named his executors and he knew they are the best in the business and will know how to make money for his estate. They know what they are doing and the Jackson's need to respect Michael's will.

The Jackson’s need to just stop complaining about everything. They have complained about the doctors…Complained about the media…Complained about the death… Complained about the raising of the children… Complained about the WILL… Please can they just stop? Grief is enough to deal with and no money can bring Michael back.

They have had more than a billion people who were, are and are to come. They have been blessed. They need to stop making the media and the public look bad. None of them would have a red cent, without their fans buying records.

We all should be on the will to get something back.

We are the Ones who gave to make this family billionaires.

Cocovelvet   August 3rd, 2009 6:54 pm ET

...GOOD NIGHT ALL. here its already 1A.M.See u tomorrow.

Stu,Hungary   August 3rd, 2009 6:59 pm ET

Good night Cocovelvet!

Virginiamackinnon   August 3rd, 2009 7:16 pm ET

Hello Larry,
Michael Jackson said some one was trying to kill him? Could it be the ones his life insurance policy was made out too? I heard some mention of that a few weeks ago, but have heard no more.
I agree with the decision of the court to give Mrs.Jackson custody of the children.
Michael Jackson loved his kids, but he was really living dangerously and was a walking time bomb waiting to go off. All the drugs he was taking was unabelievable. He should have got help with his drug problem years ago for his children's sake if not his own.

Sam   August 3rd, 2009 7:55 pm ET

What will the Executors earn by their representation of the estate?

Also, do they determine the 20% that goes to charity on the day he passed away or a future date. If it is June 25th, does that mean none would go to charity then because of his financial status?

NINA YIRDAW   August 3rd, 2009 8:22 pm ET

Yes Larry as everybody else in here I beg you to present for once someone who is positive about Michael Jackson. Michael deserved respect. Michael was a loving father. R.I.P MJ

Kathy O   August 3rd, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Katherine Jackson should be involved, she is MJ's mother
and loved him and has her grandchildrens best interest at heart!

Lorraine   August 3rd, 2009 9:14 pm ET

MJ mother needs to leave the wishes of the will alone

Lorraine   August 3rd, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I hope MJ mother uses the money for MJ children not take care of the whole family

gloria   August 3rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Larry, are you sure you are the father of your children. Would you be willing to do a blood test.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I am extremely impressed with Mrs. Jackson's legal team. The got the first step done andnow MJ children are where they need to be. I am confident that they will be able to make sure that Mrs. Jackson will be given the ability to have some say in the managing of the estate.

Lori   August 3rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Could Arnie Kiline be even more bizarre? His recent appearance on LKL and now showing up in family court with no legal standing? Why would anyone put their face into the hands of this doctor? I cannot figure out his motivation here. I am sure that the Jackson's will see to the children's education and medical needs just fine. Maybe they should seek a restraining order against crazy Uncle Arnie – I think he's a couple sandwiches short of a picnic.

TAP   August 3rd, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Mrs Jacksom should be in charge of his estate. She is his mother. What is wrong with people. Stay out of there lives and business. And what should you care. It not yours. Give me a f- Break enough already.

TAP   August 3rd, 2009 10:22 pm ET

I strongly agree with Junior. I have said it from the begining. I hope the all get caught. Michael was worth more to them dead then alive. Lets pray and sick GOD on them,. GET THEM GOD

Theresa   August 3rd, 2009 10:49 pm ET

I'm hoping that someone can help me, or that Larry will see this, there are so many things that they are selling about Michael Jackson, but there is one picture I saw of Michael as I was watching the memorial and it is also shown at the yahoo news website under the slideshow, there is a picture of Michael with his shirt open, and his white t-shirt on, wearing his hat and his hand is on his hat and he is tipping his head down. To me, this picture says this is who Michael Jackson was and is, and I would love to see a poster size picture of this for sale. In the slideshow the picture in lying on the ground with roses by it. I'm sure that thousands and thousands of people would buy this poster, personally, I want to put it in a frame and keep it forever and hand it down to my grandchildren, all the other things they are selling are nice, but this picture gives you a personal feeling about Michael Jackson. So if there is anyway this request can be sent to Larry King personally, I know he is close with the Jackson family and this is something his fans would love, also, is there anyway I can get a booklet from the memorial, I would be glad to pay for it. Whatever you can do to help will be great.

Thank You,
Theresa Green

gloria   August 3rd, 2009 11:00 pm ET

If there is nothing to hide, why wouldn't the lawyers share with MJ's mother everything involved in his estate. It might help her to understand what happened to her son. Doesn't she have that right? I just don't trust the fact that the will stated "anyone who contesteees the will is excluded", that does not seem like something MJ would even be thinking about. That clause only helps to protect the executors of the will......Remember MJ was surrounded by money greedy people. If he were an addict as the media has indicated, how could he make the decisions he did in the will. Just give the family control of their son's estate. To me there is reason to believe a murder may have been committed. If so, the estate would certainly be of importance. As a mother she has every right to know what is going on and what happened to her son....

OShenia   August 3rd, 2009 11:04 pm ET

Will You Be There?

How long did it take for this will to come forth after Michaels death? Enough time to edit it. How and where is the clause "If anyone contests this will they shall have no part" If I were Ms. Katherine I would have an expert to view the will to see if there are any additions or edits. If any pages are of a different ink, especially if the signature page is different from all the others. This can be done in the same manner that antiques papers are authenticated. It is a conspiracy. Some wills are pages long and you can add a page, delete a page, do whatever you want in between as long as the signature is authentic. So now what. Branca and McClain can sell the catalogue and say they had to sell in order to pay debts which Michael owed for whatever amount they feel or they can sell and say the sell is confidential and a third party can't view it. I think Mrs. Katherine Jackson and Jermaine should be made co-executors and included in all decisions, for the best interest of Michael. And if Michael didn't have so many issues with his Father, I would have chosen him because he will get the job done and protect his child. HE WAS HARSH BUT HE WOULDN'T LET ANYONE HARM HIS FAMILY. That doesn't sound like Michael: to add that clause because he only left the inheritance to his mom and children. Only his Mom and children would be able to contest because they are the only ones listed for the INHERITANCE. There are two who profi t from that clause. Branca and McClain.... What happens when they die? Who gets control then of the estate. This estate will go on forever as did Elvis. ETERNAL

Michael was really taken advantage of. Easy Prey. He was probaly drugged to be controlled. His Mom and Jermaine should control, everything.




And the truth shall be revealed.....

On another note… I feel that Michael wanted his mother to be Executor of his estate, on his behalf but also he wanted the business to be handled in a business manner by someone who knows the business, Branca and McClain. Katherine does not no all of the business aspects. His estate will be forever on going and an immediate family member should always be involved in order to protect the interest of the estate. Michael would have never left his mother out of being an “executor” of his estate or Jermaine. Which brings me to the question? How legite is this will? Is it possible that another will was given to the lawyer with changes yet he presented an old will? Has the will been authenicated. Michael would have had a family member, not Joe, to over see his fortune. Michael, as was with Elvis, estate will continue throughout the generations. Michael was quite aware of immortality and that his Legacy would continue on. I don’t think the will is AUTHENTIC. Who will continue his estate when Branca and McClain dies, someone else who does not have Michaels best interest at heart? Enquiring Minds want to know?


Toni   August 3rd, 2009 11:40 pm ET

That was very well written, and all so very true. Some are also saying that if you look at the will, Michaels signatures and initials are all different. And the only witnesses were Branca and McClain. I just hope the judge can see through this, but if he hasnt yet, its a little scary.

MIMI   August 4th, 2009 3:25 am ET



Andrea   August 4th, 2009 5:02 am ET

To Knowdalaw:

I agree with you 99% regarding the Jackson family. The only thing I disagree with is that they are not and never were billionaires.

Katherine and Joe filed for bankruptcy in 1999 for $24 million due to court judgments, auto loans and credit cards. The bankruptcy was terminated in March 2007. No record why unless Janet paid it off. Bankrupcty is a negative factor when considering a position of executor. It indicates Joe/Katherine Jackson is NOT capable of sound financial management.

I don't have 1 ounce of respect for Joe or Katherine Jackson. To accure $24 million in debt by not paying their bills and living in a compound off of other people is sick, immoral, illegal and without conscience. If they don't care about anybody else, then I don't give a damn about them. They are sponges and Katherine has not earned a place in this world to be executor (MJ didn't name her cuz he supported them for years). I'm so glad that probate courts monitor every financial decision made by the executors and in custody cases. Her own allowance doesn't provide for all the family members living in the compound. Oh yea, the judge reduced the kids allowance to 85.3% because Katherine duplicated some of her expenses with the kids expensive. Did she try to scam the court?

jolande   August 4th, 2009 8:41 am ET

oh yes let katherine have control of her sons estate she is mj loving mother and he trust her may his childeren just get everything they need a specialy a whole lot of love and lets makes mike birthday become michael jacksons memorial day so that the world will never forget one of the greatest performer ever lived i will always remember you my sweet michael ihpe you have found heavenly peace i wiil miss your performing on stage

jolande   August 4th, 2009 8:56 am ET

yes katherine jackson is the riht person to have control michaels estate she is his lovimg mothet and he trustet her she will do the wright things my heart goes out to his childeren i hope they will grow up to be happy kids i think they going to be alrigt with such a loving family they should michaels birthday make the michael jackson memorial day so that the world will not forget about the greatest performer ever and the beuatifuul human being he should be rememberd for ever there are so much mj fans so why not such a memorial day i personal will never forget michael jackson
it feld like loosing a childhood friend i hope michael found heavenly peace that is what he needs his life was hard enouhg and not easy to grow up without a childhood just sing and dance every day no time to play with other childeren mike i hope you rest in peace and will some times look down and see that the world is missing you
if all those people that are grieving about your dead has stood by you in your life time the world would have been a better place for a wonderfull man like you may god bless you i always remember the most loving man on the planet michael jackson why why why did you gone to soon

Maureen (UK)   August 4th, 2009 9:22 am ET

Knowdalaw and Andrea
You either work for Branca & Maclean or you are friends of theirs. This is a blog site for genuine people to make their comments, it is not for con artists.

MIMI   August 4th, 2009 10:13 am ET

I second dat!!!!!!!!

Deszaray Harmon   August 4th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

As a male model/Actor, I really do belive that Katherine Jackson should be reimburst all tides from her youngest son's death. This woman should hold everything in will from her son's death. Not only her but his children too. I belive that the courts are enfourcing a hard hit at this elder woman and they need to slighten up on her. I knew Michael Jackson personally and I believe that the only reason everyone in court is cutting up, is due to his personal reputation that was exploited various times

Maureen (UK)   August 4th, 2009 3:36 pm ET

Hi, Deszaray,
Do you think Michael knew how many fans he still had around the world ?

Vitoria   August 5th, 2009 1:26 am ET

With all the respect for the beloved Ms Katherine Jackson,
Yes she should be part of the directory of Michael state , so should others in the family like Janet Jackson .
Very important to have a independent lawyer for the children 's trust funds and it should be protected again by independent experts but with Ms Jackson in vigil of the investment as well .
That would be the most important decision that they should make at this moment as well to take control of all michael assets and investments
That will be a very complicated matter, , there is lot of layers of people involved , hopeful all the transaction should be as smooth as the hearing of the children custody , so the Jackson can start the process of closure for Michael's passing .
God Be with you all .

rami   August 6th, 2009 12:34 pm ET

those children will better lives and grow up to be a stars
they just need help at moment

Deszaray Harmon   August 19th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

Well, of course I do believe that Michael Jackson knew that he had several fans, but i cant say he knew them Jackson was an historical genuis in the R&B,Pop and several other genres. I like to say personally myself that Michael Jasckson was a flashing star. I don't believe that his name should be disrespected though he had faced various amounts of deception and false accusations. I like to speak on behalf of Michael Jacksons children. "they all (media and paparazzi) need to leave his children alone and let them handle the death of their father first before they have all this media attention.."

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