July 29, 2009


Posted: 06:41 PM ET

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Anger & outrage continue to grow over Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates' controversial arrest! We've got a great panel to dissect and debate.  Who's at fault, and does Pres. Obama need to use cans instead of bottles tomorrow?

Latest on Michael Jackson

Dr. Conrad Murray continues to be the target of investigation.  Is he in a world of trouble?  Our legal experts will debate it.  Plus, Deepak Chopra talks about his personal experiences with Michael and Diprivan.

And we want to hear from you:

Will Dr. Murray be charged in connection with the death of Michael Jackson?

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Lori   July 29th, 2009 6:53 pm ET

If he isn't, someone needs to explain to us why not.

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 6:59 pm ET

Definitely. And he should please bring the entire circle down with him.

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 7:05 pm ET

We need some action. These enablers need to take a turn. MJ has always taught us lessons, so many things in his songs and i think we need to learn something from his death. Celebrity Drs need to start making some ethical decisions and stop leaning on the greed for money.

Unless something is done we'll keep loosing peolple from situations like this.

Lynn   July 29th, 2009 7:15 pm ET

Well, since MJs chef came out with her statement, JVM is finally starting to make some of the points that we have been making here for a month already!! They are finally discussing the time line and that Prince was called to the room. Its reported that prince was called to the room at least 13 minutes BEFORE 911 was called!!

CJ   July 29th, 2009 7:21 pm ET

Deepak Chopra needs to stop talking about the things Jackson told him as a friend, confident and perhaps as a medical professional. Again, Deepak Chopra needs to stop feeling proud that he didn't prescribe Jackson medication, as he knew Jackson had a problem but didn't take any real steps to help him. Still, Chopra has no problem telling the world about it. Perhaps he should be feeling shame and stop gloating over the other doctors. He isn't much better. You could argue he was worse, since he was Jackson's "friend" and let him down.

In any case, it's time he stops talking, either way, he isn't as great as he thinks.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 7:37 pm ET

I do not think Deepak Chopra is doing anything wrong with speaking out. He is suffering. He tried to help MJ and Michael cut off contact with him. Dr. Chopra is not violating any medical ethics. He was MJ's friend and WAS NOT his physician. He made a stand to be a friend, not a doctor. He made a stand to not give Michael any medications.
He was probably one of Michaels only true friends.

Good grief CJ, Chopra wanted to help his friend and he was trying. For whatever reason and circumstances Michael became isolated from his family and friends (the ones in a position to save him) behind the gates of his LA mansion. People were actively prevented from getting MJ help when he needed it most.

There are many involved here and I hope they are all held accountable. I certainly DO NOT include Dr. Chopra in that category.

Joanne Osinkowski Ontario Canada   July 29th, 2009 7:40 pm ET

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the last man standing is the guilty one!

Beverly - Chicago   July 29th, 2009 7:50 pm ET

Based upon the information we have so far, it seems like this is the most likely scenario that developed: When Michael had begged that nurse Sherrilyn Lee for the Diprivan and she told him "No way. You want to stay away from that stuff. It is dangerous and only to be used in a hospital setting"...or something to that effect. Michael responded to her "You don't understand. I've used it before and as long as I'm monitored, I'll be ok". He innocently believed this and you can see why his mind was going on this direction because he had that anaesthesiologist traveling with him on that previous tour (HISstory tour I think) who administered the Diprivan for him and Michael came through that experience unscathed. So far, so good. Except this time, there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE in circumstances and that is because Michael had become friends with Dr. Murray apparently and wanted him to be his personal physican due the new tour and also because they were friends. The big problem here is that Dr. Murray is not an anaesthesiologist, but a cardiologist!

If you saw that segment yesterday (or they even have it on the Larry King website today) with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, you will see Dr. Gupta in the OR showing a patient being adminstered Diprivan and what can happen. After the patient on the segment received the IV drip of Diprivan, he immediately STOPPED BREATHING and had to have a breathing tube inserted! (Sorry for all the capital letters, but they don't have bold on this thing). I think that what happened with Michael is that Dr. Murray gave him the IV drip early that morning on Thursday and left the room after he had done so. Michael probably stopped breathing on this particular occasion right after Dr. Murray LEFT THE ROOM. By the time that Dr. Murray returned, Michael had gone into full-blown cardiac arrest and such an interval of time had elapsed that it was too late to revive him no matter what they tried to do.

This is the exact reason why they have distinctions between the medical specialties such as Cardiology, Anaesthesiology, Plastic Surgery, etc,! Michael was ok on the previous tour (and innocently assumed he would be ok this time) because on the previous tour he had a licensed, experienced Anaesthesiologist giving him the Diprivan (not that even he should have been doing this of course) and that doctor knew that the patient had to be MONITORED AT ALL TIMES (see the film clip as to why you can't just walk away and come back later). From what I understand, it even says right on the packaging that the patient must be monitored at all times. A cardiologist is not going to have the same knowledge or know- how to react properly in emergency situations as an anaesthesiologist would in these circumstances. I don't know if Dr. Murray insinuated to Michael that he was just as capable of administering the Diprivan as the other Doctor who had the necessary skills to do so or what, but this is where the biggest error was made on Michael's part. He probably thought that as long as he was being monitored things would be fine and he wouldn't be at risk. He just wasn't taking into consideration that he had the WRONG type of doctor doing this for him. The friendship got in the way and put him at mortal risk. I have a feeling that Dr. Murray knew that he was not the right person to be administering the Diprivan (if anyone was going to do it) but he let his greed overrule his ethics and common sense. He was being paid $150,000.00 a month and was Michael Jackson's personal physician. What's not to like about this kind of offer?? Unfortunately, sometimes you have to make a sacrifice and do what's right and he just didn't do it.

So, yes, I do think that Dr. Murray should go to jail. I don't think that he killed Michael intentionally, but he was absolutely the wrong person to administer this drug to Michael. What makes me kind of angry is that with all of the people surrounding him (Michael) who must have known what was going on – why didn't someone have the backbone to tell him "no" and kick his butt (figuratively speaking)! He would still be alive today. If I had know him, I would have insisted that he take steps to find out the true cause of his insomnia and the best and correct way to treat it. Not just the "quick fix" that ended his life. He desperately needed some strong people with good advice surrounding him and not just a bunch of "yes men". I realize though that with drug addicts it isn't always so clear-cut and simple. Easier said that done – I know. I think that the other doctor whose name I can never seem to remember...Deepak Chopra (I think) was a true friend actually and had Michael's best interests at heart even though Michael resented being told "no".

I would like to recommend that book "Our Mutual Friend" (ha ha! sorry, to bring that up again) to DR. MURRAY. It's all about greed and the power of money and the tragedy that can ensue as a result of it's misuse.
It just seems SOOOOOOOOO appropriate this time. It's a long book. I'm sure he'll have plenty of time to read it from his jail cell.

MM   July 29th, 2009 7:53 pm ET

Dr. Murray definitely needs to be charged for what he did but I'd also like to see this investigation go all the way down to the doctor who started this for Michael.
Cherilyn Lee said Michael told her "I will be safe because I'll be monitored" and this makes me think that some doctor had convinced him so. Some doctor had purposely lied to him about the risks of anesthesia – which include possible brain damage, paralysis and even death.

Have investigators talked to the anesthesiologist who was putting Michael to "sleep" every night of his HIStory tour yet ? CNN traced the guy and tried to interview him.

A different aspect of the story is also to discuss what doctors should have done to help Michael Jackson with his severe insomnia. Supplying him with Diprivan was not an ethical choice but letting him suffer would not have been the right thing to do either.
Is there a treatment for insomnia ?

gloria   July 29th, 2009 8:01 pm ET

He will get a slap on the wrist. The Coroner's report will state that MJ's death was an accidental overdose and that he had a history of drug abuse... there will be no ramifications for the Dr's involved in writing the scripts and giving the drugs, just a little wrist slapping... same with the Anna Nicole case... the Dr's always get off .... MJ was probably dead for hours before he actually let anyone know it.... fired up the heat in his room (what to keep the body from feeling "cool to the touch") .... so much wrong here, but it will come to nothing.... in the end MJ will have to take responsibility....

Mila   July 29th, 2009 8:04 pm ET

With the information we have so far there are at least 5 things Dr. Murray did in a wreckless or ignorant manner:
1) Induced anaesthesia outside a hospital setting
2) Did not monitor his patient
3) Was not prepared to respond to an emergency – didn't have a working land-line and didn't know the address of the house
4) Did not call 911 right away
5) Performed CPR on a soft surface

And he probably did not inform the emergency crew that he had given Michael Diprivan.

Marie   July 29th, 2009 8:08 pm ET

Maybe if some of these so called "friends" and "confidants" had gone to the press when he was alive, maybe just maybe he may still be here with us.
It's amazing how many people are coming out saying they knew about his problem, friends, employees and particularly Presley. She should have known better for sure. Maybe if they had humiliated him enough in the press with proof of his problem, he just may have had to go into rehab and get help, but no, they all hid it, kept quiet, enabled it.
They didn't want the boot out of the inner circle. Now he's dead and there is no inner circle.
Personally, I think his friends, family, people who were close enough to do something shoulder a lot of blame too.
I'm sure if these same people that are going on all the news programs had gone on there with the news that MJ was this kind of addict, the news programs would have gobbled it up.

Lorrie   July 29th, 2009 8:12 pm ET

This business of this nurse is starting to get a little tired. Is this her 15 minutes of fame or her deliberate deceit while getting paid from either the Jacksons to make sure the doctor get charged or the doctor laying out his defence? Can I just say basic Psychology 101. I would love to see the analysis of her increased sweating, her body language and her constant eye twitching that are all tell tale signs of deception. This doesn’t even touch on the fact that the doctor had a full month to get rid of evidence. Just my opinion. Lorrie

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 8:15 pm ET


No Michael will not. That's what Murray was there for

Radha   July 29th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

whether the doctor or doctors did give Mr Jackson drugs that led to his death, how much of this illegal activity should be placed on Mr Jackson himself? Afterall he was an considered an adult in a sane state of mind and must have been fully aware of his actions. why should the doctors be fully responsibilty.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 8:34 pm ET

Gloria, regarding Anna Nicole, last March 2 doctors and her boyfriend have been charged....
so for Michael someone might be charged too....

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

One thing some people still don't get. The patient and the Doctor have totally different responsibilities. When it comes to the patient, what they do to themselves is their responsibility. But when it comes to the Doctor, what they do to the PATIENT, is their responsibility. This is something the Dr did to MJ which might have taken his life. the Dr DID some things. That's the problem!!!

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 8:44 pm ET

I love you Michael Jackson. I want to see justice served!!

jeanette   July 29th, 2009 8:55 pm ET

in this times so sad!

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 8:55 pm ET

Beverly from Chicago-
So well said! The sad part, if and when murray does go to jail, it will never bring michael back.......i grew up with michael's music. He is the voice and soundtrack of my childhood. My children, who are in their 20's, don't really know how wonderful he was. I know they would have felt differently had he been able to have his comeback. I would have loved to see him reach his peak again. Saddens me that we have lost so much.

Allan Nkoba Boston   July 29th, 2009 8:57 pm ET

Alot is still being said about Prof Gates arrest. Lets agree that Some Police officers abuse their power when it comes to arresting a black man. I am Glad that a prominent harvard Prof. was a victim to this.
And who would really arrest someone because he said something about your mother that he doesnt know. Thanks Sgt Crowley we do know how dear your mother is to you.

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 8:59 pm ET

.He needs to be charged; if he isn't the LAPD screwed up AGAIN

beth   July 29th, 2009 8:59 pm ET

i have a question about sgt. crowley, why did he put " two black men" on his police incident report? why would he lie about the things that was never said or even mentioned? was he trying cover his behind for putting his personal issue on an issue that requires a professional judgment? or was he really racist? larry pls ask this question

Lynn   July 29th, 2009 9:07 pm ET

I think that the chef coming out will help ALOT with them being able to make a case against him. The fact that the morning he died, Dr did not come down for juice and granola as he always did.

Annie LV   July 29th, 2009 9:08 pm ET

We know Dr. Murder oops Murray (did I really say that, :0 )
loves big houses, so let's send him to the ultimate BIG HOUSE!!!!

Considering he had closed his Houston office, why wouldn't he have at least brought some of the equipment with him?

News is saying he is unable to make any $$$$ due to what is going on. Last week they filed the final papers on his home for foreclosure. He has been in arrears since Jan.

Maybe he will welcome the BIG HOUSE! 🙂

Mila   July 29th, 2009 9:08 pm ET

I think Dr. Murray should definitely be charged for what he did but I would also like to see this investigation go all the way down to the doctor who started this for MJ.
Cherilyn Lee said Michael told her "I will be safe because I will be monitored" which makes me think some doctor must have had him believe this. Some doctor must have purposely lied to him about the risks of anesthesia – which include brain damage, paralysis and even death.

Have investigators talked to the anesthesiologist who was reportedly putting MJ to "sleep" every night of his HIStory tour ?

Another aspect of the story to discuss is what doctors were supposed to do to help Michael with his insomnia. It was obviously unethical to supply him with Diprivan but it wouldn't have been right to let me suffer either.
Is there a treatment for insomnia ?

Lynn   July 29th, 2009 9:09 pm ET

The ambulace crew is also stating that he was already dead when they got there. they had to work on him because Murray is a Dr and he ordered them to work on him.

All the stuff that went down just doesn't make sense for a Dr to do it he wants his patient to LIVE,

James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 29th, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Let's make something perfectly, crystal clear; You or I or anyone else can argue with an officer at anytime they want. Period. That is not up for debate. They can do so WITHOUT persecution and prosecution, UNLESS they incite a riot.

For anyone, officer or otherwise, to presume to dictate the feelings and actions of innocent people, or to assume that no indignant feelings should or may exist, or to presume that such feelings are subject to permission from an officer is, frankly, assinine.

We hold officers to a higher standard because officers have a privilege to arrest. In altercations like this, it is the officers duty and obligation to take the lip they are given from innocent men, and walk away.

Citizens, on the other hand, are bound by no such obligations. It is preffered, but not obligated to them. Any arguements to the contrary are merely excuses for abuses, as are policies and procedures to intelligent, reasoning, and reasonable men.

jacie   July 29th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Re: Gates: why are we still talking about this?

The evidence is OVERWHELMING!
The officer was doing his job – Gates reacted shamefully and owes EVERYONE an apology....period....end of story!

As for Dr. Murray – you are just dragging out what we already knew from DAY ONE - it was his fault and he will and should be charged.

Why are you dragging this out? It's a 30 second story – move on!

Leonna   July 29th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Yes, he should of had hear machines etc.. to monitor Jackson since he knew he was on medication that could be lethal. If Jackson had a heart monitor machine Dr. Murray would of gotten to his side fast. Who know how far gone Micheal was before Dr. Murray came to his side.

JM in Novi,Mich.   July 29th, 2009 9:13 pm ET

The arrest was not racially motivated,the arrest was made because of Dr. Gates abrasive behavior & comments.Why did Gates have to escalate the issue with comments about the police officers mother.?Totally unprofessional .!

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Mr. King, I believe that when the address was called in to the police, the system should have told them who was the resident owner in the home. So, that when Mr. Gate showed officer Crowley his identification, the address should have validated the case.

Paula in Albuquerque   July 29th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

As a retired member of law enforcement, I am especially sick and tired of "all roads,, in American, life, leading, inexorably to 'race'"!

Those who have proven to be the least accomplished...the least appreciative of their citizenships and rights...the least deserving of the special "passes" and exemptions that they have pressed for...who have been granted evetry perk and legislative guarantee, known to Man!

Yes...there is racial profiling...but, that is because there is a disproportionate number of these people who chronically, and relentlessly trangress American laws...and, cite "slavery: and past abuses to escape the consequences!

For all of the privileges what are earmarked in their favor, many of them have pregressed any further than their ancestors living in President Lincoln's day. Yet, the world must STOP, when they feel slighted, or their feelings are hurt!

If they spent as much time making sure that their myriad children can speak the English language coherently...and that they would attend school...becoming productive American citizens...rather than turning every neighborhood in which they live into slums, and havens of every vice and corruption there is...the entire world would be better off!

Respect is given where respect is received!! Racial profiling is a reality, because there are dysfunctional, ignorant "drains on society", who either will not, or cannot, maintain civilized conduct, and behave as lawabiding human beings...

emilia   July 29th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

the arrest was not racial motivated but a simple case of a cop with an attitude problem who wanted not sympathy from professor gates but some groveling.

Kaye Taylor, Knoxville,TN   July 29th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

As a 63 year old wlhite woman from the South, there is no doubt in my mind that had Professor Gates been white, he would not have been arrested. I think I as a homeowner have the right to display my anger if I am being harassed by the police in my home, where they had no right to be. This arrest has no justification! I believe the police behaved worse than stupidly, stupidly at best!

Gretchen   July 29th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Mr.Elder is a disgrace as a man. He has no back bone.
What reward is Elder getting for his total disregard for his own race.

brian   July 29th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

This was not racial profiling. Professor gates was not singled out. I think that he seized on an opportunity to get in the news to make his documentaries more legitimate. It is my understanding that he was never arrested before and what better way to get some credibility for the subject of race in a documentary.

Annie LV   July 29th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I think he was pulling every Ace out hoping to revive him, knowing what he had done. Supposedly he continued to work on him at the hospital, (per Jermaine and news), even though the Dr.s wanted to call it.

Lincoln   July 29th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

This shouldn't be an issue...a call was made about a suspected burglary...the suspect got mouthy with the police officer and was arrested as he should be...if the media would stop making race an issue it would eventually become a non-issue...

COPS   July 29th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

This wasn't about race, it's about an arrogant cop. I was in a similar situation, I am white. . my charges weren't dropped and I had legal fees to pay.


matt   July 29th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I think that alot is being made of this professor Gates situation. No one seems to understand when Blacks claim a situation to be racial profiling. Suppose Gates went into the kitchen to get his I.d and went to grab a gun and came back to shoot the officer? Would everyone then act like this situation was no big deal then???

This situation need to be looked into thoroughly. No one but the people involved will ever know the "true" circumstances of this case

Warren Merriman   July 29th, 2009 9:15 pm ET


Your comments about the Gates/Crowley situation seem solicitously biased. And most commentators seem to ignore the facts that don't support their position. Powell was right on.
Gates acted like an ass. Crowley acted like a petulant child.
And the Judge completely ignores the fact that Crowley, as a responding police office, certainly had reasonable suspicion to question Gates and determine that he was the rightful occupant of the house.

Charlotte   July 29th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Dr. Gates was well within his rights to advise the police officer that he felt he was being profiled because he was a black man in America. Nothing wrong with that. Judge Joe Brown made an excellent observation - THE U.S. CONSTITUTION - RULES! ... And the police officer - regardless of whether he is acting in the line of duty or not IS DUTY BOUND TO RESPECT IT!

Randy   July 29th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Why won't you ask the question why did the officer lie on his police report. Are you guy's trying to over look are cover it up; Thats the quetion

Erin   July 29th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

I am completely in agreement with Judge Joe Brown. Mr. Elder is a disgrace to his race! They violated his Constitutional rights as Judge Brown said. I'm so glad someone in the legal system has the guts to say what he did.

Anna in CA   July 29th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

regarding the gates situation; my daughter showed me a link from the los angeles times "homicides" for the month of July 2009. It was mind boggling. page after page after page of people shot in the head, people murdered for what, I do not know, but page after page, and this is just for the month of July in LA. It must be happening all over this country. They just do not print every single homicide. I do not blame the police . They are running scared today. And I hate to say this, but the majority of homicid\es are black or latino.

Robyn   July 29th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Professor Gates said himself that the officer did not like the fact a black man was in his face, which tells me that professor Gates escalated the situation, and the racial profiling came from Professor Gates.

Sheila Cowan   July 29th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

The only thing that should be discussed is whether there was a legal basis for the arrest of Professor Gates. How about researching Massachusetts law on disorderly conduct. (Commonwealth v. Lopiono and Commonwealth v. Mallahan) Why did the police officer write that Ms. Whalen told him that 2 black men were trying to enter the home? That was a lie.

TSAF   July 29th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

What is Mr. Elder talking about, Pres. Obama's statement, Ben and him need to talk based on the facts not on emotions or misinforming the country just like Judge Brown did when he first came on to speak on the Michael Jackson issue Geezzzz.

Kay EM   July 29th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Only in America can you disrespect our president, question his birth, and racially profile Blacks and Muslims.

Andrew B. Ferguson   July 29th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I think that the officer was wrong about the arrest. That he didn't like being shouted at, or being talked down too. The proof of being a resident of the home was given. Therefore things should have ended.

Margaret   July 29th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

A woman tried to be a good neighbor; a police officer was doing his job; look where it got them

Will   July 29th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

I just want to say racial profiling happens everyday and the police never get in trouble for it. I had lived in phoenix for about 6 months and had 2 cars and had the wrong license plate on the wrong car and didnt know it. The police pulled me over when i was coming home from work, took there guns out and was ready to shoot me. I had my hands up they told me to get out i got out of my car with my hands up wondering what was wrong the officer grabbed my arm slammed me to the ground put his knee in my back and handcuffed me. After they put me in the police car then they finally asked me for my license and registration and found out that was my car. They didnt apologize, cussed at me and wouldnt give me there badge number. After they found out they made a mistake and let me go the damage had been done. There 1000% racial profiling. And there should be ways in which a person can sue or file charges to get those police who are prejudice to get them off the street.

w n fuller   July 29th, 2009 9:18 pm ET






Davinity   July 29th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Getting more of the facts, from different news souces, I think Gates owes an apology, as he was beligerant. And why would Gates start going off saying to the officer about 'yo mamma' what, isn't this suppose to be an intelligent Harvard professor. Gates was pushing the racial button. Obama should have kept his nose out of it. The officer is correct.

Add to that the fact that Gates is a personal friend of Obama's, what does that tell you. When the happy hour starts, will Reverend Wright and the chorus of Obama's,'Oh, there just guys in the neighborhood,' be there as well.

Mickey   July 29th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Well, anyone who hasn't seen one. Larry Elder is a full fledged Uncle Tom. He is totally unreasonable in his comments.

Daphne Babin   July 29th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Is Larry Elder really Black? On bahalf of every African American Male, this man is an absolute joke!!!

Diablo   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

On the Gates issue, I think that it's easy for us to want to say that the president spoke prematurely when he said that the officer acted "stupidly" by arresting Gates, after he provided his ID card. I do not believe that the officer is a Racist, or was motivated by any deeply held racial bias, but I do feel that he behaved like someone utterly overwhelmed by Gates superior intellect (logical expectation), and uncommon intellectual insubordination. I think that Gates should have exercised more patience with the officer, all he had to do was explain his situation to the officer. In that sense, I feel that Gates acted below his station as a Harvard Professor, and if he had not immediately accused the officer of racism, he would have had a much stronger case, and many more of the American people would be sympathetic towards him. In fact, when our President made his statement in support of Gates, I think he did so with the expectation that Gates would behave in a manner consistent with his education. With all that said, we are all human, and we all screw up. As we move forward, officers need to be more aware that minorities are generally terrified of them. The history between the two factions demands such a reality. I've typed too much.

John Wilkins   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Bottom Line: If it had been two white men involved, the homeowner would not have gone to jail.
If it had been two black men involved, America wouldn't have cared in the least.

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Gates is a total race baitor, he admits to bringing up the race card

angela   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

It is really sad and foolish on both sides, like grown children, somebody needs to take the HIGH road and stay on it.

Patricia   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Two human being living their lives created a drama that occurs who knows how many times every second in this country. Face it. Should Gates be asked to be senstive towards another human being. Yes.
Should the officer, as a public servant, be required to abide by the law (the case was dropped) yes.
Ask Cornell West to explain how we deteiorated from human beings to people of so called inferior and superior races. The roots are deep, we are dealing with the falling leaves.

My opinion   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Give me a break! Gates has a chip on his shoulder. He was angry because the police officer did not recognize him as a "famous" Harvard professor. He's neither famous nor worthy of special treatment. The police officer went there to try to prevent someone from entering Gates' home illegally. He should have been grateful rather than angry.

E. Harmon   July 29th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

This unfortunate event has been tainted and confused with so many differing perspectives, opinions and assessments that the aspect of justice gets lost and suffers the ills of a wide array of pinned up hostility from all sides of the race issue. Racism is a complicated cancer eating at the bone marrow of America's foundation. I hope our country can find a cure for it.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Gretchen-if this were a white man providing no support to the officer, you would have no problem at all. This is the 21st century and it is OK for someone of the same race to disagree with you or criticize you. What is your point?

J O   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET


Not knowing what happened at Gate's gate does not stop us from having opinions about Gatesgate. It is an opportunity to express what we want from law enforcement whether or not it becomes relevant to this case. There are laws, such as the ones addressing vauguely defined disorderly conduct, which give police discriminatory powers to prevent injury in what should be rare instances of very probable danger but no evident criminality. Of course any power is likely to be overused, and it is the business of civilians to redraw any lines which have been crossed. Police have to suppress their reactions to white stereotypes as well as black ones, and whites as well as blacks may feel that questioning is a form of interrogation and that any information can be transformed and misused. Historically, groups which have suffered most from misuse are more sensitive about it. Similarly, police who meet more criminals than civilians have a heightened perception of their percentage in the general population and of their own danger. The ideal sought is still officers who identify with the population served and have an understanding of needs enhanced by shared casual conversations. One can imagine Gates turning the tables and in grand patrician style giving thanks, deserved or not, to the public servant for trying to protect his property and person. It sometimes helps to act as though one expects good things despite the odds. Of course the law does not require that we act in our self interest. When people, police included, show concern over losing control, they lose control, and policy should reflect that insight. Control not an end in itself. Making suspects kneel and prostrate themselves while the risk is assessed sends the wrong message. We honor police because they put the public before themselves, use judgement in avoiding premature judgement and refraining from shooting out of fear, so they need not spoil it with passionate outbreaks on the blue line. Not everyone has the character to be an officer. So what are they supposed to do when confronted with unruly behavior or insults which do no physical harm, with those who imagine that there is collective dignity in acting like beasts? What do adults do with rude children? Do humans make repartee we a dog barks? The provocateurs want an escalated response. If you think about it, treating gross adults like children is more insulting than arresting them as adults. While the system should take account and give officers more points for defusing situations than for making arrests, it is not always desirable to completely ignore abuses of free speech and assembly, which call for non-violent imaginative reactions. In the end, prejudice consists in treating an individual as a statistic, whether or not the statistic is accurate and even when the damage of a rare risk is as high as death. Neither police nor civilians should be treated as statistics, as dispensable quantities in a cost-risk analysis. There is always some possibility of early death, but living our lives around it makes us increase the probability of poverty, stagnation, and an early demise.

Dorcas D. Bowles   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Colin Powell's assessment is right on target. Neither person (Dr Gates or the policeman) used common sense to quell the situation. It should be noted that teaching about race and diversity does not mean that one is free of racist acts. Internalization of negative feelings toward people of color by whites and of self-hatred by blacks exists because of the society we live in. We must work to deal with all that we have internalized and this work is not easy! I am a 72 year old Black Woman and I know and have known lots of young and old Black men during my life time. Larry Elder is the first Black male that I have heard state that he has not experienced being racially profiled and does not know what the term is. He is rare indeed!

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Paula, your ancestors immigrated from another country. Go figure. You do not know what the -- you are talking about. Every race in this country have people who are feeding off the government, destroying the fabric of this country, and to say the least disobeying the 10 commandments! Bless you.

jacie   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Re: Gates: why are we still talking about this?

The evidence is OVERWHELMING!
The officer was doing his job – Gates reacted shamefully and owes EVERYONE an apology....period....end of story!

As for Dr. Murray – you are just dragging out what we already knew from DAY ONE - it was his fault and he will and should be charged.

Why are you dragging this out? It's a 30 second story – move on!

(CNN – Please STOP prohibiting Freedom of Speech - how will you ever get your news if you continue to supress Freedom of speech!!)

Diablo   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

and Michael Dyson is freaking awesome.

Bridget   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Prof Gates has every right as a home owner to say what ever he wants in his own home. The arrest was unnecessary.

Regena Towles   July 29th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Of course its racially motivated! The woman who called in the 911 stated her description of the alleged burglar was possibly "Hispanic". The police officer changed her words and described the person allegedly breaking in the house as "black". Now, what other reason would he do that?

Mary Mtl   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Tell everything instead just the half of it, the policeman made a false statement that's protect his butt, but it turn now it's against him

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

This is all about payback not teaching anyone anything

JOANN   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET




Richard Seaton   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

This incident was called in as a burglary in progress.Engaging in violent behavior that demonstrates a wonton disregard for the presence of a law enforcement officer could reasonably result in serious injury to the officer.

What if children were in the home and the alleged burglary in progress was abusive to them ? Remember the Joel Steinberg case ,who turned investigators away with a calm manner and killed his daughter and beat his wife afterwards..
Error on the side of protecting the safety of the family in the home.
I would turn down the President's offer to meet.

glow   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Just my thought....If the police officer falseified his police report and stated that the 911 caller told him it was two blackmen with backpacks when she did not. What else did he lie about? How many other reports did he lie on with false statements. His crediabilty to me is shot out the window. We are all people and can lie and will lie when and if needed to support and protect us. We can not say what the professor said, but we do now know what the office did that was false.

Ann,Virginia   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Gates & the cop both acted "stupidly."Gates assumed it was racially motivated,the cop got mad & asked him outside so he could arrest him.Both were wrong.I'm glad the President was asked to comment on the arrest for one reason only,that it brings out of the shadows the fact that racial profiling by some cops happens everyday & that is now out in the open in a big way,thanks to the President's comment.This is a real problem that needs to be delt with.We should take the President's advice & use this moment to educate both black & white America about what they can do to stop racial profiling.Some Americans don't even believe that it exists.

Angee   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

If there had been a real burglar who said, "Oh no, I live here. It's okay you can leave." and the officer took him at his word without investigating further, would Dr. Gates raise a stink because they just let him steal all his belongings? An ID and a utility bill would have satisfied the officer that, regardless of his race, this was in fact the true resident and not a cunning criminal.

Joan   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I just voted on your poll. I think your question - wether the Gates arrest was racially motivated was irrelevant. So far 70% of the respondents say it was not but what portion of them were white? How many of THEM have been racially profiled by police? I am a 53 year old visibly disabled black woman and I have been... For that matter so has everyone in my extended family. Some of us live in primarily balck neighborhoods and some live in predominately white suburbs very few have police records but ALL have been harrassed by police especially those residing in the suburbs. Why is this? There IS a real and ongoing problem for black people in this country with the police.

TSAF   July 29th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Secondly, no one is addressing the fact that the police officer wrote up a false report on the issue, stating that the woman who phone in to the 911 operator stated that there were 2 black men breaking in the house, when she never stated that. Now the 911 tapes has been release no one is talking about the lies that the police force writes in reports to cover their behind. Why not address this issue fully, yes he is a good cop but a good cop would not lie on paperwork. Base on this information I strongly believe that he owes Dr. Gates an apology.

Chloe   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

I was stopped by cops the other day for speeding.....I think I was pulled over because I am female. No, not really....maybe it was because I was SPEEDING!

Robyn   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

I think he will be arrested and believe that the charges against him should be upgraded to 2nd degree murder. I also believe other medical professionals should also be held accountable for there actions.

Andrew B. Ferguson   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Somebody is going down for this one. There is to much money changing hands. To easy in getting caught up in, " If, I don't do it someone else will" and miss out on all that money. This Doctor was getting $150,000 a month. He's is going to do anything to keep that gig.

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Larry Elder is a wonderful man, your the joke loser!

Sergio   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Since Judge Brown thinks that the Cambridge Police should have walked away because Professor Gates said "I am the homeowner",
what would have happened if they did walk away, and in fact the house was being burglarized? Would Professor Gates then say have the right to say that because he was a black homeowner, the police didn't care enough to protect his property?
I guess either way, the police are the bad guys, because it is okay to use "profiling" against the police.

Jennifer   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Way to go Larry! You keep cutting the other Larry off, African American guy off that has his head on straight! Thank goodness he's a rational person who really see's what's going on instead of the left-wing like Judge Joe Brown and the other 30 young black urban american who is "poor me, poor me" and I have lost all respect for you Larry King!

Paula in Albuquerque   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Racial profiling exists because there are those members of a particular ethnic group who commit disproportionate amounts of crtiminal acts, in this country.

There is also a Fascistic understanding, protected by Federal legislation, which forbids anyone from speaking the truth about such a reality...and, thus, holds the entire nation hostage, by ignoring, and apologizing for things which are THEIR faults, and not the issues of the rest of us!

There are more legislative guarantees, freebies, perks, and privileges, which have been doled-out to these people...unsympathetic and undeserving as they are...yet they STILL can't get their butts in order! They STILL resist behaving like civilized human beings...raising children who cannot cope in the world, without excuses, exemptions, passes, and dumbed-down curricula, and rock-bottom educational standards!

There is still ignorance among them...rivaling exactly where they were at the time of President Lincoln...yet, they must be promoted to positions for which they have few qualifications...and their children are graduated from functional illiterates...who can barely read and write...and, cannot speak the English language...

All men are created equal?? Don't make me laugh!! A country is only as strong as its weakest link...and, boy!!...check-out the weak links running loose in America...

mark   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

It never ceases to amaze me how predictable Larry Elder's responses are. In Larry's world ,racism no longer exists and African-Americans should stop whining and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Of course Skip Gates and the officer should have allowed cooler heads to prevail. And oh, how wonderful it would have been had the President remained silent until all facts were known.

Nevertheless, Mr. Elder's hair-triggered responses are disengenuous, arrogant and hurtful.

Brenda   July 29th, 2009 9:22 pm ET

I'm not a rascist at all; however, someone just mentioned that Professor Gates lives in a community with African-American mayor, governor, & President. I think alot of people are trying to act like we are back in the 60's..... get over it! The police officer was protecting the very community and house that Professor Gates lives in and he wanted to start up with it being racially motivated !! History of racial profiling is that.... HISTORY!!

angela   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Michael irritates me to no end, he is militant and will not shut up, he runs his mouth endlessly. Take off your suit and get a beat like a cop, then spout off Michael.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Sorry CNN, I felt as if my race was being profiled.

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Obama pushed this Country back 40 years!

Lilarose in Bandon, Oregon   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Dr. Murray will probably be charged, but what is the point? It is too late to save Jackson.

Now Jackson's kids are in the hands of the weirdo Jackson family. That is the biggest tragedy coming out of this.

Linda Manning   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Remember we often teach what we most need to learn. I do think race played a part in the arrest of professor Gates. I am a white female over 50 and have seen discrimination over the years and we still have a ways to go. Not surprising that this officer teaches the course he does.

Quietstorm   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Judge Elder is a token black sellout...So he can't relate to the other black people on the show...sellout!!

Valerie   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Had Mr. Gates been calm and respectful of Sgt. Crowley, non of this would have happened. I look at the disgust on Mr. Gates face and it looks as though he is the one showing racisim toward Sgt. Crowley.
Sgt. Crowley was doing his job. It is clear that Mr. Gates lost his temper.

Diablo   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

"Let's figure out a way to make them friendly presences in our neighborhoods, and not an intimidating one." Geez Dyson. Where do you get this stuff? Did I say that you are awesome? Yeah

Cliff   July 29th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Both sides made mistakes but that fact that the officer entered the man's house illegally says it all.

Kevin from Brownsville, TX   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I think Larry Elder has lost his mind...........not because we have a black president and a black governor in that particular state means that the police dept has automatically converted to one without racial bias. yes it is 2009 and even though he may think we have gotten to a time of racial equality he is seriously mistaken. Please open your eyes!!

Joyce M   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

1. Dr. Murray acted irresponsibly and took a man's life into his own hands yet he is a physician. He killed Michael and should pay. (yes those are strong words and there is no other way to put this but to bluntly say what it is)

2. I think Gates was profiled. Its clear the police officer did not leave well alone after realizing that the man was in his own home. He could have left but because he was a black man – he continued. I believe if Gates was a white man he would not have been arrested...c'mon he was in his house...give me a break. This was racist period. And i am a white woman.

Ralph Savini   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I believe that the 911 call has been edited so there is no mention of race. In other words, a police cover-up.

Darren Douthitt   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I wish I had grown up in the Utopia that Larry Elder pretends he was raised in. He is one unusual black man. Just as Powell stated, all black men have been victims of racism and racial profiling–even the aristocratic black men like Elder.

Vinnett   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Barack is right this is a teachable teaches us that even tho we have made strive in this country with a Black President....We still have racists among us. Larry're not one of us you should be ashamed of yourself....I am very offended by you Larry Elders.

Deb   July 29th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I think all of you are missing the point made by the 911 operator today! She said that in the POLICE REPORT it said that SHE said there were 2 black men. SHE DID NOT SAY that if you listen to the tape. Go back and listen again!

Micael Gautier   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

what people don't see is that Gates had NOOO idea that the cops where called!! Sooo I don't know about you guys..but if a cop (out of NOWHERE) comes to my house and asks me to come outside..or asks for my ID...YA RIGHT!! cops are way out of control..had NO right!

Pam   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

GATES Discussion – what if this was a case of an enstranged husband with a restraining order against his spouse. Perhaps there may have been a violent act committed, perhaps his identification had not been changed to a new address. I completely understand the difficulties facing minorities vs policing but I would always like to think Safety First would be the priority

Quietstorm   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Judge Elder needs to grow dare he be on this show

Gerald   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

In my opinion Judge Joe Brown is correct. It does not matter what color the person is, the real issue is the owner of the home. The police do not have a right to take over a person's home regardless of what language the owner may have used against the officer. I really amaze that there are not more Americans up in arms about how the law can take an innocent man from his home without a warrant. I believe the reason that more are not upsets is because Gates is black and most Americans are eager to side with the white policeman.

Jamie   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I would like to see Judge Brown take his constitutional hypothesis to the end.. Is he implying the the local law enforcement agency should tell its citizens that when calling in a possible break-in that we best hope they get there before the person has entered the home, because once inside the officer has no right to enter, the possible criminal doesn't have to come outside, doesn't have to produce proof that they live there, and the officer(s) will be forced to get back in their squad cars and go away until the actual owner calls in to say "I have been robbed".
If we are going to charge the law enforcement agencies with protection and serving our interest then we have a responsibility to cooperate with them in executing their duties.

Gretchen   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I would like to know what law Mr.Gates had broken,and why were the charges dropped.Republicans are race baiting this situation.
Asking the police for their name and badge number is the right of all citizens.This man was not a danger to the publicor this officer.
This story has been twisted all in the wrong direction.Please get to who made the false police report about two black men with back packs!

Bill Small   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I am a Black American Male, 14 years ago a friend, who owned a house in Westchester, he asked me to check on his home from time to time, While he and his family was on vacation. He notified the local police of his village, that I would be checking on the House. The first time that I wet to check on the house the local police was called, The police was not told that I entered the house using a key, pluse I had the code to the security system. The police came and informed taht they receiived a 911 call, stating a black man was entering a house at address####. The Police checked my Id and and verified that I had the right to enter the house. The Officer gave me one of his Police Business Cards and left.
Remember the neighbor saw me enter with a key, and I turned of the security system, plus I parked my car in the drive way.
Why did the neighbor call the Police

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Thank you, Mr. Elder, for not being afraid to speak the truth. It is so sad that we will live in a country where a black person is crucified if he/she sides with a white person. Of course, many white people often support black people but no black person points the finger at them for not supporting a white person. Let's not forget, if no white person supported a black person, Obama would not be president.

Lisa in Atlanta   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Remember, police officers choose to be police officers! African Americans don't have a choice to be black!

Paula in Albuquerque   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Harvard professors probably have an attitude problem...with those of us who cannot "walk on water", as they can...

Nina   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Studies show that one of the top professions guilty of perpetrating domestic violence are police officers. It's well-known that this career path attracts personalities that have power and control issues. What is being done to screen them?

If they can abuse women, why is it so far out of reality to believe that the same power and control issues will have them exert their authority on racial minorities?

Judith   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Completely agree with Larry Elder (for the record I'm black). This was not a racial issue. Think it's a town/gown issue and a macho issue.

frances bunnicelli   July 29th, 2009 9:25 pm ET


Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I live in a small west michigan town where are police department treats everyone unfairly they walk around like there king of the world!! there main job is to intimadate and to make everyone fearful of them I have no respect for them or any local police agency they are not trained and have no idea how to treat people!!

NORMAN KINYANJUI   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Hi Larry,
L have cooked all this time but the company doesnt seems to trust me to run their boat.To me l feel if l were white l could have been a steward by now.
Mr Gates experienced it thats why he was shocked.The panel you bring on your talk shows need to walk the streets to find out about the cops.

Wendy, Ontario, Canada   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

How ridiculous that anyone would defend a police officer for arresting the man in his own home! The cop was trespassing & had no right harrassing the home owner. He knew there was no crime being committed. Since when do old men rob houses carrying suit cases anyway?? I hope the Professor sues & wins.

Dammy Samuel   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Why is Mr Elder being so unreasonable, concerning the Gates issue when all the facts are there? What is his problem with Obama? In my opinion, i think he is just being unreasonable .

natalie doyle   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

This is so annoying, why doesn't everyone just move on. The police officer was doing his job. Gates should have just answered the questions and cooperated. Why when something happens to a black person they call "racism"? I am so sick of hearing that excuse, I feel that they need to be treated just like us white people. I am sorry for what they went thru in the past, but when are we going to move on. Us white people also get treated unfairly, should we call racism. I don't feel that the president should of even said anything. He did not even have the facts, but then again I did not vote for him because I feel he is an idiot! The United States is in for a world of hurt and this is just one more negative against the president. World wake up and realize that people do their job and if it offends you because you don't follow directions oh well. it does not matter if your black or white that is just the color of our skin. Get over it already

Peggy Davis   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

If race was not a factor, then why did the dispatcher ask the 911 caller if the perp was white, black or hispanic? Why was that question even asked?

Rich   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Why is Ben Stein on the panel?? What a disgrace the Prof. Gates/Sgt. Gates issue is. 2 blocks down the road inner city youth are dealing cocaine, crystal meth, and heroin in every major city in America.......That is the real issue!!

Jack   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Larry, why do you continue to disrupt Larry Elder yet allow "Judge" Joe to carry on with some rather outrageous commentary. By his own words, it seems as though if a policeman interrupts a burglary in progress and thief proclaims that "this is my home", then the police are to back-off. As Larry Elder states and I believe appropriately so, "this isn't your grandfather's police department".

Have you heard the interview with Gates where he asserts to the officer that he is failing to react because he is black. So in your mind, it's entirely acceptable for Gates to play the race card, refuse to identify himself appropriately then verbally abuse th police officer. Tell me Larry, where in America would you not get arrested ?

Damrak   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Along side with Gates and Crowley, Obama should also have invited to the White House beer party the lady who made the phone call to the police.


cj   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Gates and the police officer say it's time to move on!!! Then why go
to the White House t drink beer which has become anews story
within itself?

Vincent Nicoletti   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Larry Eldar has some personal grudge against the president obviously and really seems to be a plant for the conservative whites. LA cops are totally intimidating. This guy is in denial of his own race. Larry asks what should we learn from this and Eldar starts bagging on the president. Get a life where you don't have to be an Uncle Tom Eldar!   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

the rep in the suit and tie was paid to act out the way he acted

Sharon Tearney   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

No one seems to be focusing on the initial question that caused people to feel there was racial profiling. Why did the dispatcher ask if the perpetrator was "white, black or hispanic?" That seems to me to be racial profiling in itself.

Yolanda Everette   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I must comment on this situation about the Harvard Professor and the police dept. Mr. Elder just made my mouth drop......He reminds me of a black man that totally don't know he is black. He is living in that old yes master world......

Both sides needed to get a better understanding and that situation could of been avoided. Yes we have moved forward as far as having a black president but there is STILL racial profilling and this really needs to change. Mr Elder I suggest you step out of the Masters house and work with the field hands

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

yea, the weakest link is usually the ignorant one.

Ron James   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Give the citizen a break. How would anyone react if put in the same situation. The officer clearly went out of his way to cause Mr. Gates a problem. Yes, Mr. Gates did over react, but if cooler minds had prevailed on the part of both individuals, the policeman still knew that Gates was at home and that no crime had taken place. Why is Mr. Gates being faulted....It is the age old story...If you are white you are right and if you are black get back. People are tired of that nonsense and white people need to know that . While some blacks may agree the policeman was within his scope of authority, let them just reflect on the last time they were accosted by a policeman and what the outcome was. Still pissed off in OKC.

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Mark, grow up and get over fricken hoo!!

annie   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

where was Ann Coulter & Al Sharpton tonight ??

Aaegie, Toronto, Canada   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Larry Alder or whatever his name is a buffoon, he is obviously playing to the gallery of air heads like himself.

Marilyn   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I believe that every "Dr. Feelgood" associated with Micheal Jackson should be prosecuted.

loyyi   July 29th, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Elder is 100% right. Tire of all this race card playing. And Larry King really showed his true character tonight when he was so antagonistic to Elder because Larry wanted the story slanted a certain way favoing Gates.

Mark Paul   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

The Point is, Respect a police officer - and there is no issue.

Chloe   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

to peggy...maybe he asked the question to get a better idea of what the perp looked like......kind of like blonde or brown hair?

marcia   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

It's amazing how no one especially the media, how the are ignoring
the main point. Look at how police report are generated depending on the emotion of the officer. Look at the Big lie "2 Black men" was a
made up sttory by the police, according to his preconcieved racial thoughs and ideas. Not by the facts.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Sergio-I posted the same comment several times. You are quite right. Had he been a burglar and Crowley did not follow him into the kitchen, and he escaped via the back door, Gates would have said he did not receive proper protection. However, Gates criticized the officer for following him into the kitchen without his permission. He was looking to make something out of this that was not necessary.

Joe   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Larry I am disappointed in you tonight. I have watched your show for along time and most of the time it's been outstanding. I may never watch again after viewing tonights show. First you have an argry black man on who probably has lived a charmed life and all he can do is perpectuate the world against the poor black man attitude. Add Joe Brown and you interrupting everytime someone has a comment against Gates or Obama and it is clear that you afraid to speak the truth and that is the police have a difficult job and put their lives on the line everyday and anytime a black person is arrested the first thing is you are profiling me and picking on me. Shame on you and I hope someday you grow a pair and treat everyone the same no matter what their color may be.

Zoie   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

We will never watch Larry's show as long as that racist bigot, Michael Eric Dyson is on your show. (the guy in the tan jacket)

All he does is yell and scream just like Roland does, who is always on Anderson Cooper and other CNN shows.

Larry, Can't you get people that can discuss issues without screaming over your other guests?

maya   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

I don't think that this is a matter of Gates being a black man. It's a matter of the U.S. president being a black man and siding on gates. The officer was just doing his job and it's the right thing to do. This is not the first time an officer entered somebody's house and handcuffed someone. He (gates) is being uncooperative they see him as a threat.

kevin   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

police officers are lacking proper training, and are abusing their authority. cedar rapids,ia police dept. need to listen up!

mark   July 29th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Julie, I'm sure you wear a hood.

frances   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

My comment is to your guest Larry Elder. I am appalled at his ridicule of the President and Mr. Gates being a black man himself. He should be really aware of how people feel about the racial tensions in America. He should just take the can of beer and shove it himself and shut up.

angela   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Larry Elders is a brave, intelligent man, he has risen above it all and I am happy for him. It is his kind of thinking that settles down the rhetoric and helps us to not see color, just facts.

harriette smith   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Bottom line-Crowley (working in a professional capacity) over reacted and should be reprimanded for violating Gates' rights. Furthermore, the citizens of that county should be upset that taxpayers dollars were waisted paying a officer to intimidate a citizen instead of spending that PAID time addressing the safety of the citizens.

Sabrina Sims   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Larry Elders is a self hating wingnut.
The cop lied on the police report. Please explain to me, what it is, that makes this person a good cop? I keep hearing this, “he thought a sensitivity class” crap, so what. He also filed a false police report.

LyCA   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Larry. Are there any whites that you can report on? I guess they are all perfect and nothing for you to report on. Each evening you are trying to beat down Michael Jackson who is dead. Do you realize that each time you all try to push this overkill on MJ, it drives up the sales for MJ. 10,000 of his DVDs sold out in 8 to 10 minutes last night on a tv channel plus other items. If you are not harping on MJ you have other African Americans on there with some "crap". You spent no time of effort in reporting the Mayors, Rabbis and other officials that was arrested for various illegal violations. I think you are very bias.

N.S.   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

WHY is the media ignoring that the officer LIED? He PUT words into the witness's mouth that she DID NOT say!

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

haha...yeah ok. get your head out of your welfare lovin check's ass

Mark Paul   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Frances B. you are right on the Money!

Sam Israeli   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

I personally think that the police across the board are out of control. They are the worse speeders, they lie, make up stories and are ready to draw their gun and shoot to satisfy their command of power. You don't have to be black to experience the abuse – although blacks are much more prone to abuse and excessive display of force by these moron who are paid by the citizens to "protect and serve". More often they not, they abuse their power and then cover up their stupid actions with elaborate lies. Better education and higher IQ are in order for most of these morons.

Robert Baldwin   July 29th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Where is the respect for police? What example is Gates setting for young people when he says it is legal and preferable to berate an officer in public? Someone's child is going to get hurt following Gate's example of disrespecting an officer sent to serve & protect instead of taking his complaint to where it belongs – the Police Commissioner, the city mayor and the national organizations responsible for developing police operating procedures. If Crowley followed procedure, he is the wrong person to challenge.   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

obama said that because it was right

jen   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

As we continue to discuss racism and racial profiling on a daily basis I have 2 questions. Why is President Obama always referred to as the black president? He is biracial, had a Caucasian mother and is half black half white. How come his Caucasian half is never acknowledged?

gerald   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

is Dr Murray deeply in debt ? the truth will come out ..

Lou   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

This isn't complicated. Gates was not arrested for a crime, he was arrested for punishment. Then we learn the officer lied in his report and the media will not mention that. Does the "blue wall of silence" extend on to the media?

Robert Henson   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Once Mr. Gates identified himself as the home owner, the police officer had no legal right to remain in the house, and no reason to arrest Mr. Gates. The only reason the arrest was made was to teach Mr. Gates not to question a police officer. It was retaliation for questioning a police officer. The arrest was unwarranted and unlawful. The lesson is that a police officer has the discretion to arrest anyone for any reason he so decides.

Dell   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I originally thought Professor Gates was in the wrong in his actions leading to his arrest. But after the 911 tapes its obvious that Officer Crowley lied on his police report that Mrs. Whalen told him that two black men with suitcases were breaking in the home. The lie on the police report was merely a coverup of the unwarranted arrest and Crowley should be reprimanded for lying on official police documentation which resulted in an arrest of the resident of the property...This should not be overlooked.

Paula in Albuquerque   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I find it astonishing that this particular issue comes-up, time and again, and seemingly will never die!

There is an element...vocal, and noteworthy for their being consistently loud and obnoxious...who have made a handsome living off of being "professional Negroes"...and by whining and singing the blues about everything, under the sun!

While they grow rich, making television appearances, their "community" still languishes in ignorance, lawlessness, blaming Whitey for the things they themselves are guilty of...and, causing this country to continue to fall-behind the rest of the world, in everything except, promiscuity and criminality...

People are what they are...and putting lipstick on pigs won't make them anything except what they already are...

Jayson in St. Petersburg, FL   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I believe that Prof. Gates' arrest was partially racially motivated. The officer may not have intended it to be racially motivated, but, everyone needs to realize that we all have some racial prejudices. Once Prof. Gates showed proof of identity and that he lived at this residence, the police officer should have left to go write up his report. Overall, cooler heads should have prevailed.

Tiffany   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Whether or not, the neighbor mentioned race is a red herring ! It's not like the cop couldn't figure it out when he saw him.
I'm black and if a black man is going in my window, I want the police called too. BUT once they determine it's my husband by seeing his ID, they need to go away.
Who isn't going to agitated by losing their keys and having to "break" into their own home ? It's just an excuse. How much further proof do they need and how much more do they usually require – DNA ?

Sabrina Sims   July 29th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

The cop was wrong! He also filed a false police report.

Robert   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Are the taxpayer paying for the travel for the beers tomorrow?

David   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Gates was out of line, there is no lesson to learn. Everything that happens to black folks involved with white people is not always a racial incident.

LILIAN OBILOR   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Mr. Elder is acting stupidly and being disrespectful to his own race by denying what is happening to his own race. I hope and pray he will encounter the police someday sometime in this country then we will find out what his reaction will be.

Come to NorthSide of Chicago and see police men runing red light and endangering citizens every day and every seconds (without emergency or emergency light on). Citizens, especially Blacks, foreigners, immigrants, and other minorities where being intenmediated. Police at the Northside act like there are Gods!

Ann,Virginia   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Jacie,CNN is not prohibiting freedom of speech.The reason we are still talikng about this is because the incident brought out into the open the fact that racial profiling stiil goes on all over the country by some(not all)cops & we need to find a way to stop it.

Mickey   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

It has nothing to do with race. Most times, when you come across a police officer, you better not have had a bad day. If they do not like your attitude, you will either be given a ticket or handcuffed and taken away.

Joyce M   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Men – I don't want to be in the same room with Dr. Murray because i am so angry with him – so angry with him.

cj   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Is it illega to use aliases on a prescription in Calif?

Sonny   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Surely some people are still racial bias. But in this case, you have to give the officer the benefit of doubt. He was just doing his job, trying to assess the situation. Take this hypothetical situation.... what if there was a real intruder in the home and the police just leave after Dr Gates showed his ID. Then the intruder could have hurt or kill the homeowner. If that happens, the police then will be accused: "if the homeowner was white, he would have followed proper procedure and checked further". It's damn if you do, damn if you don't. I think Dr Gates already had "racial profile" in his mind (because he's an expert ) even before the police did anything.

Mary Mtl   July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

How can you believe the officer when in the first place he lie on his report of what was the situation, when he say the professor was arrogant or disturbed, please, see the reality, this is over power, and not just in this case but other , race gender or white and poor

Ginnie Hall - Kansas City   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Five years ago, police officers shot 19 bullet holes into the side of a Cessna, single-engine airplane my husband was piloting, as he was preparing to take off. The bullets were aimed at a bank robber who was attempting to hi-jack the airplane and when the police stormed in, they jerked my husband out of the plane, threw him onto the tarmack, pointed a gun at his head and said, "If you move, I'm taking you out." He was unjustifiably accused of being an accomplice to the crime, hand-cuffed and treated horribly, until he was finally exonerated hours later. He cooperated with the police and avoided the media. What would have happened had a minority pilot been sitting in that seat?
Sadly, racial profiling still exists. However, I do not believe professor Gates was treated any differently than a white person or any other race would have been treated under identical circumstances. Please...all of us must stop making assumptions about another person's intent.

Gerda   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Who is that guy, Larry Elders? He was the only one who made sense!
I personally hope that Barack Obama has understood this was a 'teachable moment' for himself!

Kevin from Brownsville, TX   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Thanks for making that point to Mr. Elder, Mr Dyson. Even though I think he may be too dense to actually get it.

DOROTHY CREEL   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

my spouse is a cop and one question i have is why does everything we see happen revolve around race. its not an easy thing to be a police officer they have to make snap judgements depending on the situation and there is no evidence anywhere that he may not have had a weapon, they take there lives in the hands of the americans every time they leave home, instead of always bashing what decisions they always make why not look at there accomplishments and where we have come from i worry every night and day when he is on the street is he coming home. please know we are not racical people my spouse would give his mom a ticket lol and me to if i broke the law, he stands by his job, he loves being a police office and he also is a staff sargent in the us army guard and has served this county in many other ways in iraq, panama, lebannon and so forth but as a police officer you could ask for no better man, cops are necessary and we need to teach the kids today and in the future how to respect the law. there was abetter way of handling this... larry please let people know that to beleive in our law inforcement and trust they do try and take care of us in the best of there ability.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

It is beyond ignorant to suggest Gates/Crowely is a Republican/Democrat issue. How sad that we still have black people who think every Republican is white and no black person is a Democrat. Larry, cut the blog as it is an insult to your program. Sadder yet, it's a reminder of how ignorant we are.

Givonne   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

This case presents somewhat of an irony. Anyone with a sense of Michael's M.O. would reach the conclusion that he would not have cared for an indictment of Murray. Yet, a clear warning message must be sent, serving notice to these gold digger types.

A dragnet round-up of previous recklessly indulgent doctors by the authorities ought to be carried out. Their liability includes malpractice, travesty of ethics and feeding a delusion that invariably led to unwitting self-mutilation, if not inadvertent suicide. They cheated the world of the gift in MJJ; it's a poorer place without him!

CHARLIE   July 29th, 2009 9:33 pm ET




Lorie swansea ma   July 29th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

I have lived in ma my whole life! Don' t
even tell me about our police! They don' t racially profile , they just profile! I ' m a white middle aged women who was profiled do to my family member being in trouble . To the police in this stat that made me a criminal too! Crazy cops! I dont think this was racial i know from experience, it is just a power happy cop! They don't care what the story is because all of us are below them! Black white green !
They are supposed to serve & protect! But most just want to show us how much they can control & intimidate us!
This is in cambridge ma , actually a pretty good area in this state!
After all it was not brockton or new bedford!
Cop over reacted & how does that serve any of us?

RN   July 29th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Gates Vs. Crowley:
It is time to forget and move on. There is no racial conflict here in the US. It was bad luck.

rockiesfan   July 29th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

WOW talk about making a mountain out of a molehill instead of turning this into a "Race" issue why can't Professor Gates see this as a caring neighbor that was looking out for his well being instead of turning this into something that it wasn't, racism Afterall the police would have never shown up at his door or gotten involved if the neighbor didn't call in and why Pres. Obama got involved is still quite baffling don't we have bigger fish to fry??

Richard West Palm Beach   July 29th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

The lesson here is that pain is weakness leaving the body.

Those of you should remember this outcome when thinking of putting chemicals into your body. Try again to get high on life while you still have one.

Marcia   July 29th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Hey Larry, did you all realize you had 2 different spellings of Murray on your show, which one is it/thanks, just thought you would want to know!!! A Loyal Viewer!!!

John   July 29th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I understand that the officer did not ask him to leave his house after the matter was settled, but said that he was leaving and if he wanted to continue the discourse, he would have to come out of the house.
Outside, after a crowd was gathering, he was advised at least twice to go back into the house or he would be arrested. The officer even removed the hand-cuffs and showed them to the doctor and asked if he knew what he was saying concerning being arrested. The discourse continued and he was arrested probably at least partially for his own protection should an altercation had occurred with the gathering crowd.. If the professor were injured the police would have incurred civil liability.

Lou   July 29th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

@frances bunnicelli C'mon larry is about as fair and just left of center as you can get. But have fun watching Glenn Beck!

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Teachable Moments...another Liberal talking points. They want to still blame white sick of the Liberals, they do more harm to this Country than any Taliban ever could!

jennie   July 29th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I am a 59 year old white woman who was sitting on her own front porch
waiting for a tow truck to remove my dead car.The plates had been removed as the vehicle was to be destroyed.
sadly my phone rang,in the time it took to answer a young white police officer showed up called a county tow service and informed me that a vehicle could not be on the strreet without plates.I tried to explain but he was simply arrogant and rude.Even my neighbors explained I had been waiting with the car.Police officers have become convinced that the badge provides some kind of supreme power.Respect commands respect!! It would be wonderful if the police would try treating us with some.
Race is not the issue. Attitude is!!!!

Ann,Virginia   July 29th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

CJ,You can't help someone that won't allow you to.Dr. Chopra has just as much right to talk about this as everyone else.What about all the BS spouting from Joe Jacksons mouth,funny you didn't mention that.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Didn't this country suppress women just as much as they did the
African americans....etc.. voting rights, suffrage....... and I am sure they got tortured a little but not as much or as long though as the
African american women but I could be wrong.

roberto   July 29th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

did they need to handcuff him & tke his picture & treat hm like a criminal? he probably did overereact...but w/jet lag, maybe sm alcohol on the plane...mmno one knows..well, tomorrow 3 kinds of beer @ white bk yd on a picnic table..

JOE R   July 29th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

This would not be a big deal if people didn't use the race card. I mean White people are people, Black people are people, Brown people are people. I mean the kids learn all of this from us and the t.v. and guess what its stuff like this that make a hate crime happen in 20 years. I hope all of you in the media are happy. All the racist people out there are just products of a different time. Our kids are from this time, I am all for history class, but if we teach them that its wrong then we should all take our own advise. This is simple miss understanding. Its nothing more or less.

sophie jones   July 29th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

if i were that stupid cop
i dont care if dr gates reacted furiously i would even apologized to him

Kathy,Indianapolis, IN   July 29th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

All Gates had to do was politely show proof that it was his house, and be glad that Crowley was trying to protect his residence. Instead he played the race card; It is a different time, he needs to put the past behind him, after all America did elect an African American President, and Crowley says he voted for Obama, doesn't sound like he is racist to me.

Jeanie   July 29th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

To resolve Gates situation we must first discern who is lying, since both seem to have a different memory of what was said and done. I do know that the police report was in error by saying that the 911
call indicated that two black men were seen breaking into a house, which was false. Also, after the cop saw his ID, why didn't he just leave? If not a racial issue, then it was power issue.

Who is this black man on your show that seems to have an obvious
dislike for Obama? He has issues!??

Sabrina Sims   July 29th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

After reading some of the comments on this blog, I can tell you this counrty has a long way to go in regards to race relations.

Shalucille   July 29th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

It seems that many people are taking President Obama's comments out of context. He was very clear in stating that altough he did not know all the facts on what role race played... he does know that Sgt. Crawley did a stupid thing in arresting Prof. Gates being handicapped and in his own home. So to ME he was not trying to make it a racial issue by calling his actions stupid he was just commenting on the simple fact that an arrest should not have been made. The man was simply locked out of his OWN HOME.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

FRANCES-You are absolutely correct. Larry, if you don't want someone on the program who disagrees with you, just invite left wingers like yourself. You were very disrespectful. There was a time in your career that you graciously allowed everyone his/her opinion without making it so obvious what your opinion was. I heard you interrupt Mr. Elder continuously in defense of the president and gates. I heard you not once defend Officer Crowley. I am surprised that you would do this.

Alice Gaudet   July 29th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Dr Gates should have showen the police officer his ID & thanked the officer for checking in case it was a B&E.

Hubert   July 29th, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Sgt. Crowley committed a false arrest, because Prof Crowley did not commit a crime, nor was he accused of a crime. Yelling at a policeman is not a crime. When Sgt Crowley handcuffed Prof Crowley and took him to jail, when no crime had been committed, nor alleged, Sgt Crowley abused his authority as a police officer.

Davinity   July 29th, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I agree with you, why does CNN prohitbit freedom of speech on here? If you can go FOX and many other blogs you can say what you want, then you get a much better idea of what people are thinking. But, when you are censored, then there is very little you can say.

Enough of Jackson. Whether Murray administered the drug or Jackson did it himself, or God only knows how many other doctors could have been involved. Jackson was an addict. He could get what he wanted, obviuosly he had diprovan before if he wasn't scared to use it.

I am more worried with the economy, national security, having bill after bill passed-unread, no transparency and mammoth government spending. And just exact;y where Obama is taking us.

Blake Ross   July 29th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

About Gates / Crowley.

If Gates was a white man arrested at his own home for the same thing... we'd NOT be debating this. The officer would be right. I'm white and I've been in a similar situations as Gates, being arrested for witnessing events and even calling the police to my own home. It is very common for charges to be dropped or not filed once an overly emotional party calms down. Gates was treated like a man of any race would be.
What is racial is to say that any person due to any stereo type has the right to be angry and disrespectful beyond everyone else to the police or anyone, especially because there has been a history of that stereotype being treated poorly by police in the past. The officer is doing his job in the present.

N.S.   July 29th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Joe Jackson clearly said Omer was Jackson's son. He looks just like Tito's boys (3T).
Murray did something completely illegal. He should be charged. Let's hear Gupta some more!

Jamie   July 29th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

The attitude of Palua from Albuq.

It is those kinds of statements, attitudes, and feelings mentioned in your first rant, which is why America has such a problem.

may God bless your heart

BEA   July 29th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

In regards to what happened to Pro. Gates. It can happened any where at any time to a person of color. There is racial profiling, because as for me I have experienced that for myself on many occation. I do agree that the police have a very dangerous job but, the police could have said sorry sir for the misunderstanding but we were just trying to do our job have a nice day and walked away from the moment Pro. Gates produced his identificatons of his right to be in the house. I for one am glad the the issue is being talked about.

Also we need to know that the police could not have arrested him in his home so they had to have him go out side.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

JEANIE–are you saying no black person can dislike Obama. Hmm, lots of white people have disliked their white presidents. So what is your point.

Steve Ragland   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Larry this issue is common sense. Has anyone ever called your home phone by mistake? After realizing that the person they are looking for is not at this number they probably excused themselves and hung up. Did you curse them out for calling you?

If a person knocks on your door and has the wrong address I assume that you would correct them, (They might ask if you know where the person they are looking for lives but ultimately they would probably excuse themselves for bothering you and leave).

In either event if you were to curse the person out for calling you or knocking on the door regardless of their mistaken intrusion you would have then offended them unnecessarily. It would not matter that you just worked a double or have jet lag from a long trip because you have made turned this into a personal attack.

I'm not saying the Officer or Mr. Gates was completely right or wrong. but I agree that they should have both acted responsibly and they should both apologize but pride goes before the fall.

The simple fact is that the officer DID HIS JOB up to the point where Mr. Gates gave him proper identification,

The officers JOB WAS DONE when he received that information and that should have been the end of it instead of bring this man out of his home and arresting him. Because of the Officers training and being held to a higher standard of controlling his own emotions and thought process he did handle the situation stupidly.

The incident should be documented and reviewed in all police training for future reference.

Joyce M   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Chopra is such a talker – he was the first one to talk negatively about MJ – now he is back? This man was friends with Michael long ago and was no longer close to him at the time of his death- yet he has alot to say as if he was MJ's best friend. I think Chopra has issues

Charlotte   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I am highly disturbed (AND PISSED) over all the media conversation raising questions about Catherine Jackson's motivation for wanting to control HER SON'S estate! I get sick of it. WHO is MORE ENTITLED than the closest relative - the mother, and/OR THE FATHER - who birthed Michael into the world, and who cultivated his musical giftedness AND in essence orchestrated and engineered his super-stardom? I don't blame Catherine Jackson. She is the mother. I would be MAD AS HELL, over other folks wanting to run my dead son's financial affairs. They are totally out of their place. Nobody should profit from Mike's work other than his children and his family. It's as simple as that. I guess ya'll want to see the Hollywood "vultures" swoop down and pick over everything Mike worked for, and leave the scraps for his family .

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

No, do not stop this blog, Mr. King. I need to vent. I am a military combat vet and this may be a rehabilitative cure for my depression.
Go Mr. King. Did I spell rehabilitative right? Duh!

Pamela Eaton   July 29th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Police should be able to record all arrest activities to avoid disputes over actual accounts of what happened.

charles   July 29th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

The Professor Gates incident should be put before the court for resolution.

Geneva   July 29th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I think Professor Gates was arrested for asking the officer for his name and badge number. He would have been arrested regardless of his race.

angela   July 29th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Well if he lived on the edge can we all stop acting so surprised, i am not, thats for sure. i am totally sick sick sick of hearing about MJ, its nauseating me. I am still waiting for some coverage on Farrah, what a shame, she fought and was so brave and nothing on her since this, it makes me sick, like MJ was some kind of God. He wasnt anything like GOD, he is why we need GOD.

Rosa Tax   July 29th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

If Mr. Gates didn't have the position that he has that incident wouldn't of been taken off his record. That badge goes to ALOT of POLICE OFFICERS head. My son had an incident with a cop that stopped him on the freeway . during their search they kept making coments "f* Obama". When they finish searching my son and they didn't find anything on him they asked him" why are u so sad you should be happy Obama is your president". My son asked them didn't you just say f...Obama? They looked @ each other laughing and said "we never said that". Well they left the hood of the car unlocked and as he was driving on the freeway the hood flew off. When my son's where small I used to think the police where there to protect us. I'm not saying all of them are not good officers but some of them are racist. You don't know what it is until you experience it. Mr. Larry Elder should continue living in his bubble.

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Accident or not Michael Jackson Is Dead. Dr. Murray is responsible.

Gretchen   July 29th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Every thing about this tragedy is sad. I think that the reported behavior of Dr.Murray on the day of Michaels death is very suspect.I also believe that it is much more to the story than just Dr.Murray.It maybe a case od Michael being worth more to some people dead than alive.
They should really look into AEG. Everyone seemed to wonder hoe AEG got the funeral together so quickly,Maybe they new it would happen.After all they get paid anyway. And the description of Michaels body at the time of his death is not at all the way the people of AEG described,I remember them saying he looked and danced like his old self.Since they were paying Dr.Murray maybe they payed him enough to give Michael a medical clearance with lords of london.I think they knew he was a type of addict and they new he would'nt last through all those concert dates.I pray that they continue to look into all who had so much to gain in his death.

James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 29th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

The cop was out of line as are many of the ignorant racists on this thread.

Oh I's sorry massa. I didn't mean for ya ta hurt yo foot on mah ballz like that. Nex time I promis I's gone spread muh legs a bit further so's ye kin git a good shot der.

Give me a break you dolts.

The man was arrested for being upset about being treated liek a criminal in his own home. Liek none of oyu would act that way. What a buynch of liars.

Cop stepped over the line, and has the temerity to say he won't apologize. I wonder if him and Bush studied from the same "so-called" policies and procedures books?

Mary Mtl   July 29th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

The president was right on all the way.. he never mention that was a racial things but say how handcuffing a man with a can who proved that he is the owner and get rest, whats wrong with that and since it appear now that was the truth,

Carol   July 29th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Watching Larry Elder and listening to him is like listening to Sarah Palin. Both pretending intelligence and looking utterly foolish!!

Curtis   July 29th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Hello Larry, listening to your show, I felt a need to comment. First off Larry Alder has a very biased opinion, and seems to like hearing himself. No matter what the others on the panel are saying including Judge Joe Brown, comments, Larry Alder is not going to give an inch even though he may be incorrect. I am a Black Man in Los Angeles County, the Police Departments are still mostly white or have been brought up in a culture of being biased towards people of color, and that is a fact. I have been stopped numerous times by law enforcement to where I had filed and had a complaint sustained against the Long Beach Police Department. I was also a victim of DWB (Driving While Black) when Sheriff’s Deputies in Compton drove up to my car head on, exited the patrol unit, and with guns drawn ordered me out of my car. These deputies trashed up the back seat of my car and before letting me go one of the deputies said, “happy birthday.” This all happened when taking a friend home from my birthday party. I was I know the police do not go out planning to treat people of color wrong, but the problem exist and it needs to be addressed ,and our President brought that discussion to the dinner table. It’s no wonder why I voted for President Barack Obama, he is smart and understands what people of color have to go through almost on a daily basis. We as citizens of a free nation need to stop turning our heads and pretending that this type of treatment does not exist but reach out to the community and try to set up a dialog with the people they serve and better the relationships with the community.

JSO, Minneapolis, MN   July 29th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I wish Larry Elder can listen to himself again.
Every other persons at your todays show made more sense as well as Gen Powell.

If Prof. Gates had treated Sgt. Crowley as a law enforcement agent first before being white and Sgt. Crowley had treated Prof. Gates as an American first before being a black and each party treated the other with respect and dignity, we will not be having this discussion.

We have Whites, Blacks and Hispanics all in the military fighting to protect this country and laying down their lives. There is need to re-orientate the police and the American public.

James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 29th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Both cops AND bush are happy to come to a conclusion way too early and tehn act like the cartoon from MAD Magazine.. "what? Me worry?"

I didn't do nuthin'!

jacie   July 29th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Ann,Virginia July 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Jacie,CNN is not prohibiting freedom of speech.The reason we are still talikng about this is because the incident brought out into the open the fact that racial profiling stiil goes on all over the country by some(not all)cops & we need to find a way to stop it.

Ann, when you have to post to make your point several times - YES - that is supressing Freedom of Speech - the news media bread and butter. By doing that – they are starving themselves right out of a job!!

As for profiling - why are we just taking about "racial profiling" then if it's such a problem. Pretty bigoted and racist to NOT talk about religious, sex/gender, height, weight, eye color, hair color, tall short "profiling" too - believe me - it exists and is far MORE prevalent
than "racial" profiling.
Either discuss it ALLLLLL - or not at all.

Or do like the rest of us - suck it up and move on.

Bottom line - this was NOT profiling of any kind (unless the officer was "profiling" a stupid, ignorant JERK! That I believe - if the shoe fits!!)

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 9:46 pm ET


Shut the ________ up!!!!!!!!

Everyone knew Farrah was going to pass, you knew it when the Priest went there for the last rites. Michael's death on the other hand was a shock.
You dont want to hear about it, turn the channel.

Iyapo Kontar   July 29th, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Black will never get a fair chance in america until some people show the whites who hate blacks the nate tunners of this world.

mark miller   July 29th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

the police have a bad day they can arest me berating me and belittle and harrass me. i have a bad day the police can arrest me. They hate to be second geussed even though our military troops actions in the heat of combat even are constantly being second geussed by the media superiors and the military brass. they dont consider themselves to be a part of the community they consider themselves a sole community. their police unions have gotten too strong to where they are affecting election results. They are leading to excessive police power and oversight over the community at large and are changing the justice system to a system of being guilty until proven innocent from the innocent until proven guilty. Even in the gates case the fact that he wrote on his police report that he received a call that there where two black males breaking into the house is being disputed by the witness that made the 911 call and the 911 recording didnt say that the persons were black so where diod he get his information from? So much for being the racial profiling expert. either he made up the fact that he was told that they were black or the police dispacther told him incorrect information either or goes to show you that the police minimally make errors in facts or at worst lie on their They take the job knowing that it is tough but it is an exciting and rewarding occupation. They get support and backing from most of the community at large but yet complain that they should get everything including support even when initial evidence shows that they appear to be wrong. they abuse their power like a gang by getting hits in knees in as well as punches to terrorize criminal suspects from there wrongful acts as a way to intimidate them with a personal retribution type payback for violating the law and we still support them. they are the only people that can be caught on tape hitting a car and or person and flagrantly but can be narrated to say that what you see is the opposite of whta you see. I admire police officers for what they do but they are becomming too powerfull and never having to say im sorry or i was wrong or even appologize in the very least doesnt help in making them accountable for their misconduct or inappropriate actions. They must be informed that we as citizens have the right to protest or dispute or vent without fear of arrest unconditional support from the government at large is what is fueling their behavior. Until they expand and come to the other more upscale neighborhoods or there is a major incident it will continue to propagate. Everyone has to be held accountable for their actions and lack of professionallism and especially if a persons rights are violated.

Tuan   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET


I am so sick of the race card being used everything an incident involved white and black. There is no racial issue on this matter, the officer is doing his job to insure that no one holding Mr. gate hostage or perhaps an ex wife or friend may have hiding in the house with a gun pointing at him. The officer must protect himself and Mr. Gate at te same time. Mr. Gate should be grateful that his neighbor is looking out for him, this is the reason why I would never get involve on my neighbor business. It is not worthing the head ache.

I am disappoint in our President, an educated person, theleader of our country who is taking his friend side without facts. Prematurely convicting someone wihout hearing all evidence and facts. Is this what our leader going to do when there is a tragedy happen some where in our country and coud over react and fire a nuclear warhead to another country?
What happen to " you're innocent until proving guilty?" I guess that does not count since we are throwing the race card perhaps we should only have police officer from a particular race respond to a particular complaint from that race only so that way no one can discriminating them.

Joyce M   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Larry you should have had Gupta speak more than that Chopra man. Gupta talks and i understand very well – he is talking from an educated point of view and very intelligent. Plus he is hot!! I like hearing him teach us more about these drugs-he is able to intelligently pass on the information to us. I like Gupta – Good job but Larry you should have invite him in alone and not with Chopra who is less qualfied.

Karen   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Larry, What's the point of having a panel discussion if you don't give everyone a fair shot. I don't think Americans have to worry anymore about being "Black in America". They should worry about being "White in America". Your President gets away with making ridiculous comments and judgements before the facts, a Harvard professor has a temper tantrum and the "white" cop is to blame.

I agree with Francis B. You totally blew off the gentleman on your left and he was the only one on your panel that had the guts to speak the truth. This wasn't about racial one knew what colour he was. He was arrested for disorderly conduct when he refused to cooperate.

Richard West Palm Beach   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Marsha Clark looks great !!!!!!!!

Tiffany   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

And Paula, what are they ?

I didn't know they would let you and Laura blog from the compound.

This professional NEGRO is so busy with her job as a Medical Director, her husband's design firm, and being fluent in 3 languages – I didn't know they took a break from banjo lessons, to teach you how to type – in between dating your cousins, of course.

And in my house, MY DAUGHTER, THE DOCTOR, doesn't blame "WHITEY" for anything, unless he forgets to take out the trash ! That's right ! Tyler Bradford Collins is her husband !

Don't you hate that they taught you to read ? Don't worry, I think the banjo is free.

Why don't you run and fetch it ...

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Everyone should let the Souls of those who have passed on, rest. We should all be blessed that we are still alive to maybe do something positive in this world. Life is short.

james   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

PAM: Right on with the safety first! Cops in general can be on real power trips. Nothing like the feel of not having to pay a traffic fine due to the cop writing up the wrong charge. Thank you JEsus...hahaha! To me this is nothing about race.....just about some professor that is a total DOUCHEBAG! Good to see one of many cool black dudes on your show. Anyone getting tired of people crying like lil babies all the time? Enough of all the "I am black cry me a river stuff." It is a broken record.

Crystal   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

What is wrong with Larry Elder. He needs a makeover.

k.wilson   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Common sense would have tell you that if the guy showed you his i.d. Then that is his property. He couldn't get arrested for disordely conduct, because the cop didn't have the right to walk inside of his house. The cop needed a warrant or if Gates called the police. A 5'8 man with a cane isn't a big threat. He is a police that took his badge to serious. To protect the peace he is the reason of a disrupt the police

Avery   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I actually agree with Larry Elder that times have changed, so it's about time people change their thinking! I took Sociology in college and was frustrated by how outdated the data was. Today's college students aren't learing about present day society, they're learning about society 50 years ago. So people have a choice, they can either harbor ill feelings and live in the past or evolve and think rightly and for themselves in the present day. And thankfully the majority of America voted for present day when voting in Obama!

carolyn murphy   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I think that Dr. Murray waited to call 911 so that the Diprivan would leave Michael Jacksons system, Michael was probable already dead
in the morning. Diprivan doesn't last too long in your system.

jasmine   July 29th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

yes i believe the doctor should charged with jackson's murder

Delilah   July 29th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I truly, from my heart feel some kind of action against Murray should be taken. Something has got to be done against all these Doctor's that are willfully writing prescription drugs to people that really don't need them. These Doctor's know that the pain killer's their prescribing to patients over and over again will lead to them being addicts. So, I feel Murray need to be used as the example to let other Doctor's know what will happen to them if they don't put an end to the cause that is leading to people's death. Larry, there has got to be a prescription drug law for addictive pain killer's put in place in order to crack down on Physician and patient abuse with these drugs. We can take what has happened to Michael and do something to prevent it from happening so easily to others by coming up with a solution regarding prescribed addictive drugs. If we let this go, I'm afraid we're going to be hearing of other's in Hollywood or right in our own families dying the same way. We must take what has happened to Michael and do something to save other's lives.

SharonB   July 29th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

@Kathy,Indianapolis, IN – STFU. were you there to hear Gates curse the cop's mother, if there is a tape you could bet it would have already been released like they released the 911 tape, the only one to shed light on if this is true is the black cop and he ani't talking. Like someone siad, bet he probably got a big fat raised and maybe a promotion to keep him shut. Whether Gates mouthed off or not he did show his IDs not one but two and he also identified himself what else you wanted him to do yes massa the cop or kiss his azz. Where is the proof that Gates played the race card? Every black man and the lucky whites know darn well that he Gates was white, the cop would have done what most lawyers and other cops have stated, let it go, its his house and its over but he had to show cause he has a gun he is the almighty. Typical of white people to say blacks paly the race card, yeah we play the race card everytime white people are in denial of the racism that still exist in America today, maybe when white comes out of denial and treat blacks the same, there would be no race cards to play, we are not holding our breath.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

It's shocking that only white women are making all the racist comments. Should tell you something. Back woods with internet dial up.

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

"I want you back" Michael

angela   July 29th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

you know people, i am going to leave this thought, love for your fellow man black or white can not be legislated. if you dont want to love another human being for any reason, you dont have to, on the other hand if you want to love your fellow man you can, its really a personal decision. the more we shove the need to love, we dont, it has to be a free choice, so lets stop all the speak, we are free to be what and who we are. i will love and hate freely who I choose to until the day i die. i will be judged and so will you, that is what we need to think about. if you dont like the other race, then stay away from those that bother you will all due respect and allow them the same right, thats all.

Cocovelvet   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET


Mr Gates must have had his bad moods that day, let alone the fact that he got even more pissed off by that door which didnt want to let go and let him inside the house, making him to force it open by banging it with his weight. The neighbour mistook it for a break-in.

!.) The cop was simply doing his job; MR. GATES LOST HIS TEMPER AND WAS DEFINATELY AT ODDS.

2.) Since Dr. Murray was the last person around MJ before he was seen alive, the investigations will continue being centred around him.


I remember one of you guys asking if there was anybody who at the time was in the house who could know what time MJ woke up and took his meals!!??...BINGO!!!, there goes it now, the Chef will be at LKL tonight to talk about what he/she knows.

Carol   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Doctors, not pharmacists, are responsible for multiple prescriptions.

jasmine   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

dr murray is quilty of murder.!!!!!

Peggy Davis   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Michael Jackson's death is in direct contrast to the way he lived. He kept the media and his fans questioning why he did so many unorthodox things. From elephant man's bones, to hyperbaric chambers, to numerous plastic surgies, to changing his skin color, to sleep overs with children (don't get it twisted....I did not say "molestation"), to dangling babies, to going broke, to using diprivan as a sleep aid.

I love Michael Jackson with all my heart, but you have to admit, he kept us all asking "why?" in so many instances, up until the very end...and beyond! RIP Michael....if you can!

Pam Scott   July 29th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Why do people think Sgt. Crowley could not have been out of line because he taught classes to prevent what happen. Admit it , he is human and he forgot to apply the very rules of his own class.

Bobbi Harrison   July 29th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

You Know, I'm an 80 yr young white grandmother whose been around awhile and I've seen and heard a lot of pros and cons on race issues. We need to start looking to have respect for each other regardless of our skin color or our ethnic backgrounds. What I see here is the medias taking a particular scenario,building it up on every station on TV and sensationalizing their own ideas of what happened and they will not leave it alone for days and days...First the media people need to get "ALL" their facts correct, and report it for truth... You see, they take their supposed facts from one another... By the time we hear you people tell it on the air to we the people, it's hard to sift...

Davinity   July 29th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Sharon B

Hmm, well I take it back , this blog gives you freedom of speech. And, from trying to read what you wrote-between the many lines of ignorance, your many slurs, I prefer to converse with someone who chooses words unlike you.

anniem   July 29th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

I think "The DR" is responsible cause he crossed the line giving MJ this medicine, some people will do anything for the right amont of money, even if it involves some-ones life! rest in peace Michael!

PoPo Lee   July 29th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

This whole stupid mess between professor Gate and the cop was brought on by their stupid ego. If either one of them was able to control their ego and act like educated man that they are supposed to be, this ugly incident could have been avoided. The lesson we can learn here is we should at all time remain humble and be willing to listen to the other side without our ego getting injured so quickly.

Valdene   July 29th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

After listening to Judge Joe Brown's assessment based on the US constitution and the rights contained therein, with respect to how this incident unfolded, why has no one in the media, and with all the pundits CNN has, looked at this case through a constitutional perspective? Could the possible violation of Gates' constitutional rights by police be what Obama meant when he said what he did?

opin09   July 29th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I am so glad that you had someone like Judge Joe Brown who can give you a real legal perspective. What he said about the rights of Mr. Gates in his home was what I thought.

I appreciate the officer 's desire to make sure that a crime was not being commited but he did not see any cause to even question Mr. Gates. A neighbor can say anything. It would have made more sense to me if the officer watched the place to see if he thought it looked like a crime was being commited before he bothered a potential home owner.

The research that I have seen on the Department of Justice website does not suggest that any minority group statistically commit disproportionate amounts of crtiminal acts over whites, in this country as some would suggest. People use this as a rational for the poor treatment minorities get. However the facts do not support this belief, it is actually inaccurate.

African Americans's crimes are more widely publicized for some reason and leads to a false picture of the people.

Another inacuracy is the belief that more minorities or on public assistance. Whites have the highest numbers. Also, I have heard that white women benefit the most from afirmative action, not African Americans. Do the research before you form an inacurate opinion of a peron.

CHM   July 29th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Kathy, Indianapolis===your comments are right on. I agree totally.

Peggy Davis   July 29th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Dr. Murray might have been the last person to inject MJ with diprivan, but he certainly was not the only one!

s.phillips   July 29th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

If Dr. Murray is going to use the defense that he had done this many times before, why then did he not have the medical eqipment on hand at MJ's home. If he did not there may be other deaths that need to be investigated. I feel his intent is clearly shown.

Joyce M   July 29th, 2009 9:57 pm ET

I have another spin to this – what if Dr. Murray was in consipiracy – like some theorists say out there. Some people think he was paid or was to be paid to take his life. At least that is what i am hearing in New York. MJ was worth alot of money and there were so many players wanting to get ahold of it not to mention insurance beneficiaries from the tour. So we need a psychic to sort this out or some soothsayer.

Either way Dr. M – is responsible. He needs to go to jail for this – whether he knowingly administered the medication that he knew was beyond his medical training to administer or was paid off – we need to know and need him in prison. Otherwise we all are not at peace here...this man is responsible for Michael's death and we are all still so hurt.

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Michael Jackson has been around simce the 70's. He was the greaatedt entertainer and bridged generations. He was a huige humanitarian. No one can compare to his leve,l or even close. He had fans around the world who are still in shock of his passing. Farrah Fawcett was on Charlie's Angels for only one season and then made 2 or 3 movies afterwards. You can not compare the 2.

Bayyinah Tariq   July 29th, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Is there some reason you are so willing to ignore that Sgt. Crowley lied about what the caller said in his police report? A police officer has to sign the report and it can be used to impeach him in court. He is the person who has hurt the caller. Be fair if nothing else. Please stop insulting us with brown nosers like Larry Elder. Please, it is so hurtful to me as an African American for you to bring people like him to refute people like Judge Brown and Michael Eric Dyson.

Christine   July 29th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

To Deepak Choopra & those who have previously appeared on Larry King & AC 360, WERE WERE YOU BEFORE JUNE 25th?? I have listened, day after day to people “in” Michael’s life speaking as if they actually knew something about him. Don’t give excuses to ease your guilt or speculate and give excused as to why you couldn't do anything when you seem to state, Michael was a "torchured soul" with "self loathing" and the truth is, you stood by while someone you claim to have cared a great deal about was essentially killing himself. Where there is a will, there is a way! What if he were your own child – would you have done something then?? Or are you just as guilty as those you are pointing a finger at by not reporting to authorities what you suspected was happening. Maybe then, a stop would have been put to any distructive behavior. Were you afraid Michael would be mad at you!! Really, it would have been better that he be mad & alive!! Bottom Line...YOUR LATE!!! Shame on you! You who are all knowing about Michael’s life, state of mind, of health, and of emotional state, should have been there to support him IN LIFE – Not trash talk him IN DEATH. My prayers to Michael’s children, parents, sisters & brothers…May your hearts heal quickly.

Victoria Bauer   July 29th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

What if...someone actually had broken into Mr. Gates' house and his neighbor saw but didn't do anything or she did call the cops and they didn't come, would Gates say that nobody cared about his property because he's black? The cop may have lost it, but Gates started it. Instead of being grateful, he's insulted I think his issue has to do more with his being a Harvard professor than race.

Gina   July 29th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

No one has asked why the department of human services had not been involved in protecting Michaels children. If he had been poor the authorities would have had the children in their custody a long time ago. Why weren't they involved?

brenda barrett   July 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

well this don't help the anesthieas any good, how many of us really ask the anesthieas the question about what actuallly are they putting us under when we are having surgery who really knows. if you've ever had surgery go look in your records and see what did they use

Mary   July 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I think we need to clarify that oxygen can and is often used to help people sleep. The reports keep focusing on the presence of Oxygen tanks in the house and it is automatically assumed that they are linked to the propofol. It is a possibility, a possibility, that Michael Jackson could have used Oxygen at night to help him sleep. Why has this not been discussed on the show among the panels?

kenny   July 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

doctor cannot do procedure with diprovan without a nurse and at least a nurse anesthetist....unlike the guest said a doctor can use it in the hospital or office alone

SMEP in MI   July 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Sgt. Crowley should have left the situation alone after he realized that Professor Gates lived there. I feel Sgt. Crowley had only one motivation to arrest Prof. Gates and that was to humilate him! Sgt. Crowly knew that Prof. Gates lived there, but I feel he felt he had to push it further to keep his "controlling stature" because he didn't like some of Prof. Gates comments to him. I DEFINITELY agree with Judge Joe Brown. I am a DWF and was married to a police officer who was also white. Unfortunately, his racist attitude was just "one" of the reasons I divorced him! A clear example of his attitude: One day we were driving down the street and I put in one of my favorite R&B singer's CD. Quickly afterward, my ex-husband looked at the CD sleeve, ejected my CD, and threw it out the window, stating to me, "I'm sorry! To be married to me, you will not be listening to that n* s*!" His entire police department was like that, which made me sick to my stomach!

CHM   July 29th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Rodney-you are too funny. You have clearly indicated with your words that no comment made by a black person would ever be racist.

tanya connors   July 29th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

What happened to patient confidentiality? Deepak Chopra has been talking about Micheal Jackson since he died, explaining how MJ asked him for drugs , and how troubled Micheal was, etc...This is breach of confidentiality, if Deepak was MJ's doctor.

At the very least this is extremely unprofessional. Celebrities beware! This Doctor is more interested in being a boastful about his inside knowledge than caring for your health! What an awful thing to do to a person/client.

I hope the Jackson family sues him. I hope people realize how dangerous and shallow Deepak Chopra is-what a gossip!

Shame on me for expecting more from him!

Yolanda Everette   July 29th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I just had to comment again after reading other in perticular really caught my attention....

I was raised by biracial father and black mother. I have more blonde blue eyes in my family but I was raised to see the character not the color. Moving to Washington State I was confronted with the "N" word and had to fight for my respect. This being a child in public school were teachers were there to supposely to teach a child how to grow up with others. Anyway, due to my up bring in my family I learned to ignore stupidity. Now my family is huge, I have five brothers and four sisters.....all by the same parents...

Both parents raise us to be strong and smarter then the next man or worman...not white or black.. I am a very educated woman and am married twenty years to a wonderful black man that is highly educated. We have raised three daughters that did not miss a beat growing up. Honor roll for all three. Never went through the problems of most teens going on now days.. Why...I was raised old school and my kids were raised old school. This government that you speak of was put in place by some white man to protect white families that abuse their children so the government took raising a family out of the parents hands...

My children will not be a blog on the white man's hand out....they will be a mark of their own education. Our oldest is currently serving in the Army fighting for your right to post your stupid comments, The second child is a Senior in college and soon will be starting her Master and she is doing all of this while pregnant and married. The youngest is on her second year in college and works to support her education whle still carrying a 3.89 average.

I love this state but honey I have been profiled by black and white officers. My husband had to sell his vehical because he kept getting stopped for driving while black in a nice vehical. I don't deal with racism and I don't care but I want a person to treat me like a person

angela   July 29th, 2009 10:01 pm ET

and Jaquelyn, get some class

james   July 29th, 2009 10:02 pm ET

GOD bless Michael Jackson...and GOD damn this mr gates for having me type about his effin stupid situation. Was this a staged situation just to piss me off. Mr Gates...please never lock your door again...shut your dumbass mouth...and lets party and have a good time. Ship this mr Gates off to the moon!...awhh chachacha.

Sal Salvatierra   July 29th, 2009 10:03 pm ET

I just watched your segment tonight, 7/29/09 with regard to the Crowley/Gates situation. It appears to me that Gates seems to think that a Harvard ID card with his title, is sufficient to PROVE residency. He did not provide the officer with any legitimate ID or document that had his name and address, such as drivers license, telephone or gas and electric bill. People with titles and employment are not exempt from committing crime or BEHAVING BADLY.
And as far as the officer taking Gates word for it, I have an expectation of any officer to investigate further, criminals would be running amok if every officer believed whatever any person told them while conducting an investigation.
While listening to Joe Brown, now I know why he is a T.V. judge. He is incorrect in that once Gates TOLD the officer he lived there, he had a right to tell the officer to leave and that he had the RIGHT TO RESIST the officer. That is simply not true. I do applaud the guest that stood by his point of view also up to the others, Joe Brown and the other guest that was not in studio, but was offering his comments. And Larry, you interrupted the guest while he was making a salient point in defense of the officer and also with regard to Gates behavior. You never got back to him.

Sal Salvatierra   July 29th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

With regard to the Jackson case....where was the UMBRELLA MAN?

Peggy Davis   July 29th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Dr. Murray is a quack! He was employed by MJ for only one month before he botched the job. He did not even know how to administer diprivan. And why would he call for the 13-year old Prince Michael when he realized that MJ was in cardiac arrest? What did he think Prince Michael could do? Had Prince Michael ever administered this drug to his father? HMMMMM?

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Don 't misunderstand me; I liked farrah Fawcett and thought she was a talented actrsess. Remember, she was on Charlie's Angel one season. While she did some amazing work, she was not the Megawatt star that Michael Jackson was later in her life. We all knew that Farrah was sick, her death was expected. Michael Jackson was murdered, totally different story

TINA   July 29th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Why hasn't the press put the Officer Crowley an Professor L. Gates together beter than they have? It seem to me they are not questioning this incident as well as they can. Has anybody noticed that the officers' chain of events match nothing, not the 911 tapes , not the dispatcher tapes where he says Professor gates is raising his voice so loud he can't hear himself speaking to the dispatcher, why didn't it record on the tape with him and the dispatcher if Pro. Gates was shouting over him like he says. It's not there. The concerned citizen says she had no conversation with him about 2 black men with back packs, or anythinfg else except she was the caller, he told her to wait on the sidewalk. His report doesn' match his statements that Gates followed him out onto the steeet or lawn beinf unruly or causing a commotion to cause him to arrest him either. A lot to think about before you judge. Please look at all reports and pictures and then think about it.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

I do not think that any of our judgements mean anything to the dead. There is only one Judge. To judge a person after their death is like being a hypocrite while they live.

Dorothy   July 29th, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Gates vs. Crowley

Q1. If the Crowley is trained in race relations, why didn't he ask the question, "what is the motivation behind Gates' reaction?" A well trained person would have asked the question, and then would have been sensitive to the situation. Such question may have lead to the thought, “is this man thinking that I am doing this because he is black." Such sensitivity would have driven Crowley to walk away unless Gates' appears to be close to becoming violent. A man is bigger when he can walk away knowing he is right!

Q2. Had Gates been white would Crowley approach or reaction to the situation been differently?

Sadly to say, the public is doing exactly what Gates and Crowley did.

In order to move forward in bringing race to a close, one must begin to accept facts and reality. You can never sufficiently and effectively solve a problem until you come to the point in the road where accountability and reality are accepted.

Facts: There is a race problem in this country. People are racist and prejudice.

Facts: People are more comfortable with people that look like them; therefore, promoting one to approach people of different racial background differently.

Faraji Rasul Ahmad   July 29th, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Larry of course racial profiling exist, but i think we both no that what happen between Crowley & Gates had nothing to do with racial profiling,this is about Obama getting involve in something that he should not have commented on, and Larry for you and Powell, Dyson and many others not to see that Barack & Michelle stayed in Rev. Wright's church to long, i think it was over twenty years. If Obama is allowed to be President for the next three years, he will divide America worse, this is not the right man to lead the United States, he told the Amreican people that he & Michelle stayed in Rev. Wright's for twenty years, but they didn't no what he was about, Larry do you really beleive that? The American people must face the fact that we made a mistake, Obama don't understand that he is the President for all the American people not for some of the Amreican people. Larry people like you should quit drinking Obama's "KOOL AID"

Peggy Davis   July 29th, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Not judging, just making an observation.

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 10:11 pm ET


Amber   July 29th, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Larry great job covering MJ death investigation, please keep us fans up to date on what killed Michael. Dr. Murry is 100% guilty, all his actions seems so cunning , if Michael asked for that drug why didn't he administered properly, he the doctor he should know better. Really like that you invite Deepak Chopra it clearly shows he was the true friend on MJ, also like Sanjay Gupta insight of all those drugs....Peace !!!!Fans of Michael From PAKISTAN

Sherrielle   July 29th, 2009 10:12 pm ET

I just can't understand what I just heard out of Mr Elder this is a disgrace. That he is siding with Sgt Crowly on this. He need to read the police report before he opens his mouth again. The 911 caller did not say anything about 'Two Black Men" He has made a big mistake right here. Prof Gates was in his own home and should not have been arrested. Sgt Crowley abuse his power

sandy   July 29th, 2009 10:13 pm ET

today, Inside Edition showed a story of a woman sitting in her office monitoring her at-home security system.

Guess what?
Two people broke in and were starting to take stuff from her house.

She could see it all on her computer from her office.

She called the police about a break-in - to her OWN HOME!!

Now - what do you suppose she was to tell the cops about what she was seeing?

How many men?
Description? (Height, Weight, Clothing - RACE!?)

How were the cops to identify these perps?
(what if they left and were on the street along with several other people - which ones are they?)

When the cops showed up - what should they have done?
Politely knocked on the door and get their HEADS BLOWN OFF!!

You people who do NOT understand the dangers of police work may want to think about learning a bit about it – then you would not be so quick to side with Gates.

Would Gates have said the SAME thing to a BLACK Officer?

Why is it no one asks that?
Would he have been more cooperative if a BLACK officer arrived first at the scene?
Probably so.

shawn   July 29th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

He should be charged. The evidence will show he gave him a drug that killed him He waited to call 911 and gave cpr on his bed. Who does that .His actions broke the worlds heart and took the most gifted and generous entertainer of our time and left his sweet children fatherless I am still so sad and our world has lost it light.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Please, I am not pointing fingers. Just speaking in kind. you know. Venting. Except for the few racist commenting bloggers, then I am pointing fingers. Shame.

Yolanda Everette   July 29th, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Albuquerque I believe you are a trailer trash white woman who got beat out of a job by some high school black person and your GED just didn't make it. Or are you pissed because DHS won't give you food stamps ?

s.s.   July 29th, 2009 10:18 pm ET

I think we're not doing race relations, law enforcement/citizen relations, or any other kind of relations a justice by arguing about something that we didn't witness. Let Obama sort it out in the meeting. & keep in mind that we all have to have respect & patience with one another....whether black, white, policeman or otherwise. We're all human. Sometimes we do or say things that if we could go back and redo we would do differently but regardless it doesn't help anyone to get mad & start acting/speaking impulsively. Ignorance will always exist but even those of us who aren't ignorant do not always know the right thing to do or say all of the time. We have to try and see other peoples perspectives and not just jump to conclusions...otherwise race relations, law enforcement/citizen relations will stay as they are.

Yendor   July 29th, 2009 10:18 pm ET

Ok, I'm really confused on this Gates issue. Once the officers were shown proof that Prof. Gates was indeed the homeowner, that should have resolved the situation. Whatever happened to unlawful search and seizure? They had no right to be in the man's house, as pointed out by Judge Joe Brown ( supported by a little thing called the Constitution). Also, I thought Obama bashers were against government intrusion and that's one of the primary reasons they oppose the President (less government)??? Where is the credibilty guys, come on! Let's call it what it is, an unlawful arrest (by law enforcement) that was immediately dropped and an overreaction by Obama haters in yet another attempt to discredit him, by ant means necessary. Officer Crowley is NOT a racist, just a proud officer who simply could not walk away in front of his peers. Gates anger was justified, but not very smart. As for the man being arrested after being lured outside for that purpose is indeed STUPID!!! They knew it couldn't stand. Prof. Michael Eric Dyson is brilliant! As for Larry Elder...what an embarrasment to all decent Americans.

anniem   July 29th, 2009 10:20 pm ET

sure feel for the beautful kids, "The Dr" should have more sense than to do something this stupid! like i said and will say drugs are the ruination of the world, some people are just out for the almighty dollar ,don't care who gets hurt or dies fromit!!

Melanie   July 29th, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Why hasn't there been any discussion about surveillance video in or outside of Michael Jackson's residence?

rodney   July 29th, 2009 10:23 pm ET

My finger pointing does not discriminate. Shame

pat   July 29th, 2009 10:23 pm ET

michael Jackson was a true performer with heart & soul, such a heartbreaking tragedy for his fans around the world, including myself. There is a likley possibility the Dr. overslept-– I feel the Dr. should'nt be solely held responsible for MJ's tragic death.--

mixon   July 29th, 2009 10:24 pm ET

The nurse said at first that MJ called her and asked for the drug. She also said she told him "No" and she was not even in town she was in Florida. She said that she got her drug book and read to him how dangerous the drug is. She also said that she had not seen MJ in about three months when asked by someone on another news show. She said the other night, that she told him "No" and went home and got her book and drove back to his home and showed him how dangerous the drug is. I can not believe that none of the news media has caught this difference in stories. Look at the video tapes of this woman. If you listen to her closely, the is a repeater of the things other people are commenting on all the news shows. She is watching the news like us and she is repeating things that are said when asked of her.

Rocky   July 29th, 2009 10:27 pm ET

I am a black police captain and I can tell all that this was not racially motivated. Once the police was called to a burglary in-progress they had to investigate thoroughly until it was determined that a crime did not occur. Now if Gates would not have presented his ID to the sergeant, he most likely could have been arrested for opposing or interfering with an investigation. But since he presented his ID, and it disclosed that the residence belonged to Gates, the appropriate thing to do was to walk away. If Gates was verbally abusive to the officer then he was wrong. I can only assume that while Gates was verbally abusive this in turn angered the officer. Once they walked outside on the porch and Gates continued his verbal assaults which probably drew attention from his neighbors, the officer saw an opportunity to make an arrest for Disorderly Conduct. In conclusion I agree with General Powell when he said that both could have handled the situation in a more professional manner. Gates should have displayed a professional demeanor being a Harvard Professor and the Sergeant should have acted professionally by walking away without charging Gates. Since two Sergeants were on scene both should have talked this situation over and appropriately determined that since Gates was on his own property this particular charge of Disorderly Conduct was not an appropriate charge. That is why the charge was dropped. This was nothing to do with race but a lot to do with disrespecting an officer while attempting to perform his duties and the officer overreacting by arresting Gates for Disorderly Conduct on his own property.

Yolanda Everette   July 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Thanks Tiffany for what you confirmed to Ms know

She truly needs to bring up her education a little ..... she might of got beat out of job for a maid in a Black owned house. I am planning in opening my Bed and Breakfast Inn in Jamaica and I could use some help with domestic things.... if she is still looking

Judith   July 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Big mouth Glen Beck and Rush L throw the racist thing out about President Obama when in fact they ought to look in the mirror of how racist they themselves are.They feed on wackos who believe them.

As far as Pro Gates and Sgt. Crowley.The Professor could have said I live here and I'm not coming out,period if he wanted to and the Sgt wouldn't have been able to do nothing.Had he then he would have been wrong.
One could say it's a he said he said.No one heard the Professor on tape so no one knows exactly what went down except there was 1 man against what,4 officers?
Officers are like a club of Senators like ones that stay at that C Street House in Washington,they all stick together.
For 1 good cop there are many that take the uniform too far and yes mostly in the South where there is lots of racist.Many will take things too far because they have listen to the rag shows like Fox and Rush L
who have thrown out there when Obama won now the blacks will walk all over the whites which is pure bs.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET


I thought I didnt hear her correctly at first. Because I thought she was in Florida. And you certainly cannot be in 2 places at once.

Kent   July 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

How is it that such a well known individual like Mr. Gates, is not known in his neighborhood, let alone, on the block where he lives. !
Such is not the case on the block where I live. Everyone knows more about their neighbors then their neighbors might think.

Please read the transcript or listen to the 911 call.

Mr. Elder, shame on you.........

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Are you kidding? He should not have been giving him the drug in the first place. Then he tried to cover his ass afterwards..that sure sounds guilty to you think just because he fell asleep that he is innocent ? Wreckless behavior when he knew the dangers of the drug he was using. Total disregard for life....which is the definition of murder #2

GED   July 29th, 2009 10:33 pm ET

I am a black man in Toronto, Canada 37, who drove 8 hours to DC in January and stood out in the cold at 4am with my 16 year old daughter and my 11 year old son to see history..the first black man being inaugurated as the President of the United States of America.

I find it very funny, that Col. Powell(who grew up and learned how to dance in order to get where he is and is still is not tired of dancing)and other black leaders are saying -Professor Gates should learn when people spit in his face and tell him that it's raining outside -he should believe them.

The reality is no one is saying the white police officer...should have to dance. I can't stand people like the black -i won't even say his name who was on your show tonight -saying Barack Obama was wrong and Professor Gates was wrong as the police officer was just doing his job. I was not there but history teaches us ALL -don't think just because you have black people in power everything has changed.

What the conspiracy theorists do is find a poster black person(s) to stand up and say "he is a great officer...he is not racist...he teaches race relations -WHO CARES. He clearly does not take the lessons he learns in the classroom and put them into practice on the street. These black people undermine the work that still has to be done. I bet if you ask that black man cop or the woman cop who was hugging him in tears-really(press conference last week)as a sign of solidarity how many times they have been to his house or vice versa..whats his wife's name..have they ever gone out for dinner together with their will get a different story.

What I don't hear people saying is Professor Gates is a GROWN MAN...with all of his years behind and infront of him... clearly he knows how to conduct himself and have to proper conversation with all types of people at different stations of their life. The cop keeps saying "he provoked me...he just wouldn't stop"

Does anyone believe that the cop was being rude and condensing to Professor Gates..if Professor Gates had a long criminal record and just got out of prison -I would still not believe them -because the BLACK COPS ARE NOW STANDING UP FOR HIM..what were they going to say -HE IS A RACIST AND HE HATES BLACK PEOPLE -really?

Judith   July 29th, 2009 10:33 pm ET

I think the Doctor of Michael did what he's been paid for giving Michael sleep.Only thing was the doctor knew this time what work before didn't this time and Michael was in trouble.
I pity the children so much and hope that they are with people that love them and not use them for dollars.So beautiful all three are.

David In Indiana   July 29th, 2009 10:33 pm ET

I often work with skilled police officers. In similar situations to Professor Gates, the officer determines Dr. Gates is the resident of the home. He says, "I am sorry for bothering you." The officer then leaves. It is not at all unusual for a person to become upset when the police show up at the door. A professional does his job without creating another problem.

rodney   July 29th, 2009 10:34 pm ET

just check Mr. Jackson's complete phone log to see who all have had conversations with him. At the same time, check all the video footages of Mr. jackson's whereabouts, as well as, the footages of the paparazzies.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 10:34 pm ET

Deepak is getting on my nerves. He is not one of his true friends. And Remember Michael said his true friends are not known to the world. He is only trying to gain instant celebrity status, like the rest of Michael's so call friends are. Deepak is no better than the rest of them.

Anna   July 29th, 2009 10:38 pm ET

I think Michael Jackson realized that his show was going to be a big flop. The massive debts he accrued, his poor health, and his history of misery from his personal life and career was too overbearing for him to live with. I feel that it could be safely assumed he couldn't live with the the pains in his life and committed suicide.

Eddie Edgerton   July 29th, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Bottom line here. Was the law followed according to the Constitution? You know. the Constitution was also written to protect individual rights. Judge Brown gave the interpretation of the law. Most of laws in this country that were not written or voted on by black men but a black judge told us how it should have been adminstered. If the police had followed the law and respected individual rights, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I appreciate the job the police do however, these people we hired as police officers need to attend people skills courses and understand the they are not above the law and are held to a higher standard. Larry Elder is only saying what a lot of non-whites would like to hear. If you have never been subjected to police treatment then you should shut up Mr Elder. Maybe his stock in main stream america will go up and he can sell a book.. Attacking Obama shows Larry Elder ignorance. If I didn't know better, I'd think Larry Elder is a token for the republican party like Mr Steele. It's men lik this that set minorities back 50 years. As a educated black man, my personal opinion Larry Elder shouldn't even be consider a ctizen. He makes me ashame. I think Dr King, John Kennedy, Abraham Lincoln, and Thomas Jefferson all would be ashame of these men.

jab   July 29th, 2009 10:41 pm ET

Where would black americans be without the crutch of racism. How long will they play the victim? Anyone who says that a cop investigating a burglery call cant ask for ID is a moron. Gates acted like a spoiled child. STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD!!!! its pathetic.

fbtownes   July 29th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Racial Profiling still exist. I will give you a example that happen over the week-in. I was in Kennawick Wa. for the annual Hydro Boast races, and I am a 57 year old black man. To set this up my friend also black have invited me and my family to see the race, so we jump into her son big black cadillac, car and went to the river to see the show, As we were driving we pass a Kennewick police that was comming out of the park. This police was not behind us but at a intersection. Went we saw the police car we joke he will probably stop us, Well he did. and to do this he had to catch up with us first and then get in behind us. He ran the plates, and stop us telling the drive my friend that her plates had expired. This was her son car so she did not know if he was right or not. The officer knew because if he ran the plates which he did it would have came back as registered, and fully covered by insurance. He still stop us and gave the drive a citation. You can decide for yourself, but the officer knew before he stop us that the car was legal. Call it what you want, but we were stop because we were driving while black. I do not think all officers are like this but the few that is gives the rest of them a bad name. By the way Kennewick black population is maybe around 2% or less this is only my estimate. My last comment is Mr Elder on Larry King tonight is not black, he is a white man in a black body. I only say that because on every subject I have heared him comment on he come down on the other side. This is just my opinion.

Eric   July 29th, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Albuquerque, how long have you been black? REALLY! On the Gates thing, I would have acted the same way. I find it weird that (as I understand it), you get a person calling 911, for a possible breakin, at a house next door where she works, while the person she works for is there also, to not know their (her) neighbor, (even though he is inside at the time), describe one person as hispanic, Mind you, Its broad daylight, and we have luggage on the porch, LETS BE BOLD ABOUT THIS BREAKIN, in the middle of the FRIGGIN DAY. Then the cops arrive, ask the Man, DR. GATES for ID, after he has told the officer that he lives here, ie, luggage and the likes, a small man in stature, with a cane, in the middle of the day, breaking into his own home, SUPER THREAT, to a officer that could take him without much force. Of Course I would be pissed, and I would have acted like a New Fool! I am sure that DR. GATES explained that he either lost his keys, or left them in his home, or that his door was jammed, and this is well before he has shown the officer his ID. Yes I would have acted crazy too. It was uncalled for, and after clearly establishing that GATES was who he said he was, the officer Should have STOOD DOWN.........PERIOD.

TINA   July 29th, 2009 10:48 pm ET

I was wondering why the news hasn't brung to the attention of everyone how the dispatch tapes the 911 tapes don't match anything that officer Crowley put in his report, the woman that made the calls says he lied about what she said, the dispatch tapes don't match H. Gates screaming and yelling in the background where the officer says he couldn't hear himself while talking to dispatch, the pictures don't match where the officer says Gates followed him out into the yard being disorderly, the pics show Gates handcuffed in his doorway with officer Crowley still standing inside the house with with crowley still standing in back of gates inside the house, The 911 caller says she never spoke to Crowley about races of the people she saw on the porch of the house, she says officer crowley asked if they were still in the house, and told her to wait on the sidewalk. And why would the officer say in the same breathe that he found out the progessor lived there and say he was being uncooperative and to keep the police cars coming? where did 2 black males with back packs come from? where did I see your momma outside come from? lots of things to wonder about.

elaine   July 29th, 2009 10:55 pm ET

I had to write this, I had to share a personal experience I just had about forty three minutes ago. I was listening to the discussion around Professor Gates and Police Officer Crowley; I have a Sirius radio in my car and as I pulled up to the super market, I got out talking to God. I was laughing letting God know that I know he is really stressing us on this issue of race relations and he just has to keep us talking and one day we will get there. But lord you have to keep on working on us and lord please do not give up, we will get there.

I’m a 53 year old black female and as I was walking in a young white male who appeared to be between 25 and 30 was looking at me looking up to the sky talking to God, and this same young man was in line with me when I discovered that I had left my wallet home and could not buy the $2.93 papaya; when I reached my car the young man called after me to give me my papaya. Let me tell you I’ve never felt so good and it was not because he paid for the papaya, it was because it was as if I received my instant message from God “you are going to get through this, you will do better”. I for one am not afraid to talk, nor am I afraid to listen, this discussion of race has to be had and then we have to move on. We’re wasting our time and resources while the rest of the world is passing us by. We are all American’s and we’ve got to start acting like that, and with that comes the knowledge and respect that we are all children of God. End of conversation.

Alex   July 29th, 2009 11:04 pm ET

In addition to Anna's comment, I also feel that Michael's death could have been a result of suicide. Throughout his life he had been a victim of belittlement and was taken advantage of by many individuals for his wealth and talent; even by certain members of his family ( I will not claim names *cough*joejackson*cough*). A human being can only take so much pain in their lives before they crack. If Dr. Murray was a good friend of Michael, there may be the possibility that Michael requested Dr. Murray to assist in his suicide, and seeing that his friend was unhappy and in pain he complied. I feel that only further investigation will be able to determine whether or not Dr. Murray should be charged in connection to Michaels' death.

olga   July 29th, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Mr King..enough of this..the swine flu is in our bk yd..let's concentrate on this..millions were lost during the Spanish flu in 1917, one was my grandmother, Nancy, she left 5 children..youngest 5 yrs oldest 13 yrs...3 girls 2 boys...hope this never happens again ...

katie   July 29th, 2009 11:06 pm ET

i personally hope that dr. murray is charged, because whether it was intentional or not, he should have never prescribed that medication for michael, or anyone at that. it's a shame what people will do for a little bit of money.

Barbara Callahan   July 29th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

HI Larry...We have had severe storms in my area and have had the electricty knocked out quite a bit and mine jusy came back on just as you were winding up on the *Gates* story. I don't know if you will get this tonight or not but here goes anyway...

I agree with what JUDGE JOE BROWN was saying. Gates never should have been arrested ! This is a classic example of police officers all over the United States....every city, every state. This is not something new to anyone. Police brutality has gone rampart even more so now than 50 years ago in as they have more weapoms in hand that can cause severe bodily harm and even death without them having to even break a sweat to use them....and like a child at Christmas, they love playing with their new toys and therefore will and do use them with out even thinking twice before doing so.

Attending classes on a regular basis that teach against racial profiling is greatly needed to let these police officers know they can not be the Judge, jury and executioner and this crossing the line and then covering it up with their lies claiming they were justified has to stop !
In closing I will now say I am a 63 year white female that has never have any type of brush with the law but in my 63 years have seen and know of this type activity personally as I have friends that are or have been in law enforcement for years.
Best Reguards,

Barbara in Shreveport, LA.

Lynda   July 29th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Can't understand why it is taking so long.

Eric   July 29th, 2009 11:12 pm ET

Tina i'm with you, and it is amazing how information is processed, screened, and disseminated. I have watched carefully, and it is amazing each time you listen to the 911 tapes, (of which seems different every time), with some words, and information being omitted. Kinda bizzare to me.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 11:13 pm ET


First of all it was one of the cops who wrote the report that put the race card on the table. The arrested the man in his own home for goodness sake. Now both parties was wrong but the cop who made that report and lied on that lady was dead wrong

So tired so tired   July 29th, 2009 11:15 pm ET

I am a black man in Toronto, Canada 37, who drove 8 hours to DC in January and stood out in the cold at 4am with my 16 year old daughter and my 11 year old son to see history..the first black man being inaugurated as the President of the United States of America.

I find it very funny, that Col. Powell(who grew up and learned how to dance in order to get where he is and is still is not tired of dancing)and other black leaders are saying -Professor Gates should learn when people spit in his face and tell him that it's raining outside -he should believe them.

The reality is no one is saying the white police officer...should have to dance. I can't stand people like the black -i won't even say his name who was on your show tonight -saying Barack Obama was wrong and Professor Gates was wrong as the police officer was just doing his job. I was not there but history teaches us ALL -don't think just because you have black people in power everything has changed.

What the conspiracy theorists do is find a poster black person(s) to stand up and say "he is a great officer...he is not racist...he teaches race relations -WHO CARES. He clearly does not take the lessons he learns in the classroom and put them into practice on the street. These black people undermine the work that still has to be done. I bet if you ask that black man cop or the woman cop who was hugging him in tears-really(press conference last week)as a sign of solidarity how many times they have been to his house or vice versa..whats his wife's name..have they ever gone out for dinner together with their will get a different story.

What I don't hear people saying is Professor Gates is a GROWN MAN...with all of his years behind and infront of him... clearly he knows how to conduct himself and have to proper conversation with all types of people at different stations of their life. The cop keeps saying "he provoked me...he just wouldn't stop"

Does anyone believe that the cop was being rude and condensing to Professor Gates..if Professor Gates had a long criminal record and just got out of prison -I would still not believe them -because the BLACK COPS ARE NOW STANDING UP FOR HIM..what were they going to say -HE IS A RACIST AND HE HATES BLACK PEOPLE -really?

Reality in AR   July 29th, 2009 11:16 pm ET

Yeah because the police are really gathering alot of evidence. Besides at some point we gotta stop these licensed drug dealers. It was obvious what Murray was there for, he was a glorified drug pusher. That's the main reason Mike had him there, so he could get his fix. He finally found a doctor that wouldn't deny him.

Big E   July 29th, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Is it me or do anyone else see Mr. Elders trying hard to be white.? Just because he hasn't had any experiences of racism doesn't mean its not happening today. I experience it almost everyday where I live, but it doesn't make me hate white people . Some white people are just ignorant to the fact,people are just people we are all created equal in God's eyes. We should all get along. We will always have differences, because we all have different personalities. Mr. Elders seems to hate Mr. Obama just because he is the president and he wants us all to get along. Mr. Elders has climbed the ladder and he seems to not want to help his fellow brothers and sisters up.Most black people don't want a handout they just want to be given a fair shake. If he don't think racism is alive I dare him to travel his a–to some of these small towns putting on his airs. The republicans are just using him!!!!.

Jeanie   July 29th, 2009 11:21 pm ET

"I wish I had grown up in the Utopia that Larry Elder pretends he was raised in. He is one unusual black man." DITTO! I totally agree!

Where is he from.....Mars?? He is so out in right field, he is unreal! Does he know he is black? Could it be he has problems being black?
I would sure like to know his history. Somehow the media know how to find black people that have issues relating to their own culture. I don't have a problem with someone having their own opinions, but this guy is too narrow minded to even acknowledge the possible validity of someone else's point of view. It is more than apparent that he didn't vote for Obama. I put him in the same category with Alan Keyes..... STRANGE.

john   July 29th, 2009 11:22 pm ET

only if you have walk in the shoesor being watch while shopping in stores,or pull over because of the car you drive,or been question for being in upscale naborhoods,even tho you live there,then will you know why black america hurt

James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 29th, 2009 11:23 pm ET

I gotta tell you that the best thing Gates did, was bring up that he stipulated that he wanted certain aspects of what was in the police report retracted and cleared up.

Officers are notorious for adding subject matter that simply did not exist. Among them are lending credibility to incredible things. Attempting to paint the suspect as belligerent and uncooperative are among the favorites, and ad libbing things the suspect supposedly said are another... example, saying something to the effect that the suspect stated that "I don't have to and you can't make me."

Look up the instance and frequency of the words Belligerent and uncooperative as indicators of a suspects attitude, along with indignant and you'll see what I mean.

ESPECIALLY in the instances of complaints against excessive and unnecessary use of force by an officer.

What Gates arrest amounts to is a kidnapping under color of authority. Moving him greater than a distance accepted by law, to a place unsafe o9r unappealing by reasonable standards, for purposes other than proper law enforcement.

Pat   July 29th, 2009 11:25 pm ET

Larry Elder is a Conservative ..How unfortunate. His, no reasoned thinking, bigotry, rather, I would say as the Brits do,..... Bigotry old chap! Bigotry. ...Jealous of eloquent, learned savvy, smart, astute, Barack Obama. Elder sounds like a frustrated wife. No class, either, talking about "taking his beer and shoving it" on television...tut. class ...Oh dear. Mr. Elder has indeed missed the boat.

joelle   July 29th, 2009 11:26 pm ET 'bout NOOOOOO!

Gates is the one who said "why – cuz i'm a black man?"

Gates is the one who blew his top and has been trying to sell a book and get some air play for his tv show.

....all the police and neighbors heard him!

So....stop trying to defend those of you who are are showing yourselves to be RACIST people and that will NOT help solve the problem.
You make it worse....and if that's the way you want'll have to live with it...remember that!

PINKY   July 29th, 2009 11:27 pm ET

Hell'o, this is my first time joining, I am a Victim of POLICE ,jail lock up and no phone priviages and no wrong doing, the officer pulled out a knif in my face and I told him I was going to report him to his supervisor. I made a 911 call on June 2008, aound 8:00am the officer arrived at 10:00, I reached to greet him with a hand shake,and I was told, don't shake hands because of germs.When the super, arrived ,he had his hands placaed, in front of belt buckle.
He asked" what do I want? and I said to report the officer pulled a knife in my face, and the super, replied, you telling a lie and I (he) did't n believe me.after about 5 min, both officers had their hands on me pulling , jerking me around and slapped my phone out of my hand. I was placed in hot police car, no air for about 10 min. then booked without bond for (3)three days. too much to share now, more by request to be fare with space, thanks for allowing my space..good night..PINKY

jo   July 29th, 2009 11:30 pm ET

PLEASE do your viewers a favor and stop having insignificant silly people on your show to discuss serious issues. I would think that Professor Gates would know racism and prejudice. It's really tiring to have to bite down on a very real and sick emotion that so many of us are subjected to in our lives. Yet we're expected to smile and say look how far we've come. As long as you have that small minded conservative thinking that exists in this country, there will be issues. What Gates forgot is that his education, home and standing really doesn't mean anything. He let his acquired trappings forget the realities of our world. Now that's a learning moment.

Mary T   July 29th, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Ultimately the person who killed Michael Jackson is Michael Jackson because he was an addict. The doctor broke the law and needs to be held accountable for his actions.

Beverly - Chicago   July 29th, 2009 11:37 pm ET

Dirty Diana – I can understand how you and plenty of other Michael Jackson fans must feel who have been his fans all along. It must be especially hard to experience this loss. Like I had said in a previous posting, I was never really into Michael Jackson over the years. Not that I didn't like him. I really loved some of his songs. I just wasn't so "aware" of him or rather didn't pay much attention to him over the years. I think I saw that Martin Bashir interview with him a few years ago and thought it was mildly interesting. Then I had that "premonition thing" of his death on that Wednesday night and everything changed. I also saw the rehearsal footage that they've been showing and know just by watching it the few times that I have seen it that I would have gone to see his upcoming tour in two seconds flat. I really believe it would have been that good. If it could make someone like me sit up and take notice, it would have to be something exceptional and I firmly believe it would have been. I think he was excited about doing it and things were really coming together for him in this respect. So, I know that if his death has affected me this strongly, I can only imagine how it has affected others. I will never understand why I had that premonition the day before. It's just one of those weird things I'll never be able to explain. I will never forget this whole thing as long as I live now and can honestly consider myself a fan of his from now on although it's a little late now, I guess.

Also, someone else had said that they think that Michael had committed suicide. I don't believe that for minute. I am sure he did not.

kathy   July 30th, 2009 12:12 am ET

Gates never should have cooperated with the law officer ..he played the race card and that ratcheted all this on its way ...

greg from berkeley   July 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

It is a shame someone as bright as Larry Elder wants to delude himself. I cannot believe he has never been racially profiled. He just wants to be paid by white people.

Ali   July 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

It was not racially motivated it was ego motivated. The officer's ego was offended when the man asked for his name and badge number so he had to arrest the man to say that he was tougher. If you have a huge ego like that you should probably take a different job.

Carrie   July 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

I can only hope my neighbor would be so watchful over my home. I would gladly go to the police station to clear up the situation if I knew that my house would be that much cared for by my neighbors. It was not racially motivated. I know always to cooperate with police if I did nothing wrong.

Tom in Baltimore   July 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

I am saddened that this "line in the sand" continues. Had the professonr been civil NONE of this would have happened. Period. end of sentence. His, past concepts got the best of him and he needs to apologize as does the president.

Sherine Elsawa   July 30th, 2009 12:15 am ET

Discrimination definitely occurs. I'm an arab from Egypt and occassionally have been subjected to some sort of discrimniation. However, with this history in mind, I believe the best solution is to set a good example. Let the police do their job and eventually (by leading by example), the racial profiling would end. As long as we insist on using past racial profiling, it will always be a part of the present an the future.

greg rucker   July 30th, 2009 12:16 am ET

If nothing had been done, they would have cried racism for that. People need to put themselves in a police officer's shoes for a few minutes and understand that decisions are made in a split second. They don't have the luxury of looking back on tape and analyzing everything. Obama should have kept his nose out of this!

Raj   July 30th, 2009 12:16 am ET

I think White people have changed their long before now is the time to change their mind about race.

Christine   July 30th, 2009 12:19 am ET

For Larry Elders to have said 'if I were Police Officer Crawley, I'd tell President Obama thank you for your invitation but you can take your beer shove it." clearly shows his ignorance. President Obama's offer to bring all parties together only goes a step further to increase communication between both parties and what better way than over a beer! Issues can not be solved in a vacuum – there must be an increase of communication. Whites don’t know how a Black person feels unless they have stood in their shoes; conversely, Blacks don’t know how a White person feels – the only way is to calmly express those feelings and to attempt to understand what each other might feel!!!

Htafoya   July 30th, 2009 12:19 am ET

This didn't have anything to do with race...the cop didn't like the way he was being spoken he arrested him. It happens everywhere.

Peter G   July 30th, 2009 12:19 am ET

Judge Joe, did you ever hear of "probable cause". What if the burglary suspect sadi that he lived there and did not show ID?

Mossie   July 30th, 2009 12:19 am ET

As an African American once you have definitely been racially profiled and harassed by a racist police officer, you never forget: You always suspect the next. I was harassed as a teenager, intimidated and I became the victim. I would not put up with a comparable action today. The Gates incident is not the best example of anything.

sheldon   July 30th, 2009 12:20 am ET

As a former NYPD Officer with over twenty years of experience, I have
personally been affected by racial profiling by white police officers
while off duty out of uniform, and while working in a plain clothes assignment on more than one occassion. While the gates situation may not be a classic case it does happen.

Nancy   July 30th, 2009 12:20 am ET

I am sooo tired of this issue but the discussion is necessary. How about caucasions live a week as a minority. Their combined experiences will begin an onslaught of injustices being righted if only for that week. And I am not naive enough to think that ALL caucasions have the same limited mindset either. There are many that are global thinkers and look at people on an individual basis. We have a lot of work ahead of us people!!

Melinda   July 30th, 2009 12:21 am ET

If I broke in to my own house and the police showed up, I would be thanking them and the kind neighbors.

Deb Lewis   July 30th, 2009 12:22 am ET

Come on. This continuous coverage regarding Mr. Gates and the Cambridge Police Officer, being a racial issue is so old. The media is partially responsible for the attention that racial controversy gets continuous attention in our Country.

So, how come no one has brought up the possibility of racial discrimination in the Michael Jackson case....and why haven't you presented this as a motive on your show? After all, Michael was white when he died and his personal physician was black.

Our country would be a more secure place to live if we didn't continuously feed racism. And, if the President was White, would this be all over the news in regards to Mr. Gates?

Karen   July 30th, 2009 12:22 am ET

Re: Gates
I agree that the officer was wrong.I have been stopped several times by the police and never have they opened the conversation by stating the reason for stopping me. This makes me think it unlikely that the officer told Gates that they had received a call regarding a break-in and simply began to interrogate him. As such, Gates had a right to be outraged. At any rate, once identified as the homeowner, the officer should have apologized and left. What ever happened to the responsibility to protect and serve. If that officer was trained to deal with racial profiling, he clearly needs more training and is the wrong man to lead that kind of effort.

I'm a 50+ black handicapped woman, and when pulled over for driving 5 miles over the speed limit, 2 the two officers surrounded my car and one rested his hand on his gun. He never stated the reason for the stop.

Monique   July 30th, 2009 12:22 am ET

I don't agree with the police at all because as an officer it is his duty to maintain the highest decorum officers are trained to deal with such matters and are first peace keepers. anyone black or white are would have been upset and would have expressed it. I have seen white on vacation issing luggage behave deplorable and not artrested by an officer who is taking thier information. I am also sure that the Dr. would say this is my home!! come on now this officer is pompus just look at his idea that he should not apologise to a older gentleman who he knows was tired and just had to fight to get into his own home.
I belive it would have been handle differently if he were white. And the President knowns the deal and that is why he said what he said.

Christine   July 30th, 2009 12:22 am ET

Larry did you become a Media Commentator?? I could say a few things about that but they may sound racist so I'll refrain!

Cookie Cutter   July 30th, 2009 12:23 am ET

Super Cop Crowley should have left once the professor produced his ID and proved he was in fact was home. Instead of going to have a beer with the President Obama, Gates should take this opportunity to expose the double standards police apply to minorities by racially profiling. Larry check yourself.

Anthony   July 30th, 2009 12:24 am ET

LAMO Mr. Elder, please just stop!!!

rick riggins   July 30th, 2009 12:25 am ET

I don't buy the generals comments on racial profiling while he was in the military and was at the airport. Why you might ask? I was on active duty for twenty five years and there tare many people who were on active duty who would not recognige him having never seen him or met him in person and the color of his skin made no difference all they knew was he was a four star and that he was to be respected and saluted when he came in their presence. There was nothing racial about it whether we knew who the high ranking brass were even though we may have had a picture of them on the board so I wouldn't expect a civilian to know who he was, I think he was stretching it a bit!

Gwen   July 30th, 2009 12:26 am ET

I attended Harvard University during the summer of 1994. The first mistake that the Cambridge police officer made was this: He should have notified the campus police officer prior to arriving at Dr. Gates' home. In my opinion, the Cambridge police officer was attempting to undermine Dr. Gates' position as a Harvard professor. Secondly, why would the Cambridge police officer want to know whether the offender was black, white, or hispanic? I also wonder whether the caller would have called 911 if she had seen an elderly white man attempting to enter his home. Doubtful. She says she has worked at Harvard for 15 years. She probably would have found a Harvard University police officer and told him that a gentleman was locked out.

TL Huntington Beach   July 30th, 2009 12:26 am ET

Deepak Chopra,
Thank you for sharing. There should be total transparency when it comes to a possible manslaughter case. Truth prevails!

I have listened to your lectures and read many of your books and so have millions of other people world wide. Your wealth of information, your deep spiritual understanding, mind body medicine and wellness teachings have brought optimal physical, spiritual and emotional health to people who are open to it.

richard ga   July 30th, 2009 12:26 am ET

Larry we have't learned anything in this country when it comes to race. The lady that called 911 probably lives in the neighborhood and in the east you can live right next door to professor gate and she probably wouldn't know who he is we never get to know our neighbors like we did when i was a kid

G Ross-Lutz   July 30th, 2009 12:27 am ET

O.K. already! It's true sometimes you have crooked politicians, crooked financial investors, crooked policeman etc., however just because you are a professor at a University doesn't give you the right to come out yelling and accusing someone of being racist!. The policeman was just doing his job! If you don't want police to make sure that the person in the house belongs there, don't call them. I think this is a B.S., just like most of the media garbage that is going on. To be quite frank with you I;m so flippin sick of all the cry babies screaming out NAACP!

Christine   July 30th, 2009 12:27 am ET

Has anyone ever heard of "Reverse Discrimination"???

RAJ   July 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

I think white people citizen have changed their mind long ago and Barak Obama is an example and Black people citizen yet to change their mind and example is professor Gates.

Ursula   July 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

This is what happens when those who are supposed to be community leaders are careless with words. The entire country has to be dragged back into old issues when this really started out as a pissing contest between to very strong willed type A personalities. I'm most dissappointed in Sgt. Crowley. If police officers are wasting tax payer dollars by not only cuffing but taking to the police statiion and booking people who have a right to be in their own homes (bad attitude or not) why should we ever vote in favor of more money to law enforcement. I will think twice about it from now on.

Nancy Fraser   July 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

There were two Larry's on the show tonight...the smart one and the not so smart one. Even the smart Larry was astounded that the not so smart Larry held the view that the police do not racially profile Black people. The not so smart Larry said "perhaps" he had been racially target...he cannot say...for sure. Unbelievable!!

Arlene   July 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

In this day and age I am tired of sweeping under the rug racism in America. The media refers to Pres. Obama as Obama. Now we have the police arrest a man in his own home for disorderly conduct because basically he was upset after he has proven his residency. I am not familiar with the specifics, however I understand. I keep hearing Sgt. Crowley teaches race relations. Wow sounds like the old saying "some of my friends are black". Typical. A black man in this day and age has to keep their heads down and be a police officer especially a white one. I am sure that they are good cops however the acknowledgment that their are a great deal of bad ones. It is sad that racism exist and for those of you who dont recognize it, try driving down a dark road or do what Prof Gates did late at night the outcome will probably be worse.

Carole Moore   July 30th, 2009 12:29 am ET

Sgt. Crowley missed an opportunity to display his outstanding skills. He (and the law enforcement) has the "upper hand" because he has the gun. Crowley should have walked away and been the "hero" rescuing Prof. Gates from potential harm if there was a break-in as first reported.

Ms Whalen deserves an accolade from Pres. Obama, Sgt. Crowley, and Prof. Gates.

Barb   July 30th, 2009 12:29 am ET

What I can never understand is why they're always referring to President Obama as a black man. He's just as much white as he is black! That aside, I too think both sides could have handled things differently.

Deb Lewis   July 30th, 2009 12:31 am ET

I'm wondering how many ordinary U.S. citizens have been invited to the White House to drink beer with the President every time his or her feelings were hurt, or they cried social injustice.

President Obama needs to pay attention to his responsibilities for which he was voted into office and stop getting caught up in other issues that occurr on a daily basis around the world. Women, white, black, hispanic, asian, or otherwise in our country are still treated as less in the U.S. Are we invited to the White House for beer with the President? Come on.....President Obama will definitely not serve two terms in the White House.

Gg   July 30th, 2009 12:31 am ET

Wednesday nites discussion on the Prof. Gates, Officer Crowley was quite interesting. However, my question is why is Larry Elder always so negative about the situation with a "closed mind on the possible reality of what might have occurred? There are three sides to everything. Professor Gates, Officer Crowley and the right side. None of us were there, we only have the hearsay and the news reports. Mr. Elder should keep that in mind as Judge Joe Brown, Dr. Dyson and Mr. Stein have done. They've all discussed with open minds as to what might have occurred and how it might have been avoided..

tommy   July 30th, 2009 12:33 am ET

Christine is correct RE Elders..."shove it" to the respect...the 3 of them getting together is OK...then let's forget about it,,let's end the 2 wars & bring the troops home & feed the 90 billion a month when wars end, lower the deficit..etc. so many problems this country has...

Don   July 30th, 2009 12:34 am ET

Both men appeared to act inappropriately,.However,had the professor been white, he would not have been arrested even if he had been disrespectful to the police. It appears that Ms. Whalen's report was different than Gates. If it is found that Gates report was fabricated ,he should be reprimanded and dismissed. I don't care how you conjugate STUPDILY, the President was correct in his termniology.
In addition, some Europeans are comfortable and supportive when President Obama is crictical of black men taking more responsibilty for their families and their community, however they are intolerant of him openly critical of white men in power.

David T.   July 30th, 2009 12:35 am ET

Years ago I was arrested and beaten by police for passing the city mayors private vehicle in a no passing zone. I pulled over, handed them my wallet and they proceeded to beat the crap out of me. Thank God there were witnesses and 2 officers lost their jobs. Yes there is racism in the police force but it ISNT all about blacks. Its about every nationality in this country! I've seen MANY whites who have been abused by officers. Lets not make this a black issue. Its PLAINLY racism toward the middle and lower classes. Lets stick together and put a stop to this for ALL Americans.

D. Colford   July 30th, 2009 12:37 am ET

No, I don't believe the 'Gates' incident was racially motivated. Yes perhaps a more reasoned approach would have served both sides better – as Colin Powell elucidated – still, it appears Gates first brought up the 'race' issue & the arrogant 'do you know who I am' statement. Every one should be treated equally, yes – regardless of race, & whether or not one is a professor! If this had truly been a home robbery / invasion & the police hadn't responded or been as thorough, I suspect the police would have been similarly criticized.
Hopefully each will be able to see the other's side of things when they meet with Obama.

Cindy   July 30th, 2009 12:38 am ET

As a daughter of a police officer currently retired. The mother of a police officer. I would have to admit that if Mr. Gates didn't cooperate with either of these two he would have went to jail.

What would Mr. Gates had said if it was someone breaking in his home and no one came? People need to realize that they can't have it both ways. They can cooperate, answer the questions so the police officer can find out what is going on or don't call the police when you have a problem.

Most people that don't have problems answering the questions, and aren't generally the guilty party. People that don't answer the questions are generally not answering because they are guilty.

LT   July 30th, 2009 12:41 am ET

I feel like the officer is in a position of authority and should be held to a higher standard. That being said, if this was not a Harvard professor with the following he has(which is happening still to this dayto many men of color) how would we respond then; would it even be a topic of discussion. I have never heard of a man of European decent being arrested in his own home.

Patricia   July 30th, 2009 12:41 am ET

In Oklahoma, Bryan County, the law is GOD. Thought it was that way everywhere. Gene Hampton was sheriff, he was convicted of kickbacks, money laundering, etc. He was sent to prison. But, while he was in prison, his name was on the election ballot, and these stupid Bryan county people RE ELECTED HIM while he was in prison!.

When the police or county law gets it in for you. When they catch you, if you don't have drugs, they will plant them on you. They hand cuff people and beat them until they spit up blood!. And I am white. Yes, there is raceism, the race is law enforcement and everyone else does not count! Was driving my son's car one night, did nothing wrong, they swarmed me, jerked the door open and oops, it was Mom not son, I knew at that point, all the stories, I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt about It I WAS PROFILED!!

You find really good OSBI in Oklahoma, pretty fair Highway Patrols, then it's down to county and cities. It's bad!

I hate to hear you holler raceism when it is just the Policeman syndrome. Give them a suit and gun and THEY ARE God. Seems that the smaller they are the more it goes to their head!

Rodney   July 30th, 2009 12:43 am ET

I think if Micheals Dr. administered (diprovan) outside of hospital setting,,hes guilty and should be delt with to the fullest extent of the law

Christine   July 30th, 2009 12:44 am ET

@Barb...Thanks for reminding us of that!!! I think that is important...Again, it goes to what assumptions people make...They see President Obama looking more black, than white and we forget his mother was white. Bravo Barb! Good reminder & great observation!!

Anthony Adoghe, Toronto   July 30th, 2009 12:44 am ET

Based on the 911 tape just released, and the testimonies of prof Gates and the Cop involved, it just shows that both men lost it; the prof was tired and pissed. Anyone would if you just returned from and long journey and being asked to show your I.D in your own home. Like Obama said, the Cop acted stupidly and he only took it back because he is a politician. The cop tried to cover up by saying he was told there were 2 black men when that was not in the 911 call.
Its no matter of race but mere show of testosterone superimposed with racism afterwards. But who the hell is Larry Elder talking alot of childish stuff on t.v. He is an alien i guess and such should not be put on local or national t.v. he has nothing to offer.

Lila   July 30th, 2009 12:46 am ET

yes I think the doctor along with others will be charged with murder 2 michael jackson was intentionally killed for money the doctor knew this drug is not given out of the hospital that is handing a person a loaded weapon to kill themselves the docitors are trained on drugs and what they are used for and the only doctor to adminstered this drug is an anesthologist not a heart specialist, michael jackson can not order anyone do things that will eventually lead to the doctor being charged with a criminal charge or lose their license the motivation would be money and this doctor had lots of debt the police will bring it all to light soon

Shaunice   July 30th, 2009 12:46 am ET

Shame on you Larry. Where is the falsified ( or rather disputed) police report that the officer filed that Wolf showed earlier today? Why wasn't that discussed on your panel? The woman came forward about what she said ( which is supported by the tape) and said the officer never spoke to her. Why then does his report say that he talked to her & she siad she saw 2 black men? Why was this never discussed on your panel but was covered in Wolf program?

Rae Watson   July 30th, 2009 12:49 am ET

When does it end on Dr. Gates Arrest, if the tables were turned,
and Dr, Gates were a White man and the Officer a BlackCop Mr.
Gates would have received Many apologys from all sides and
the Officer would be Suspended, maybe directing traffic as we speak.
The Fact is Dr. Gates was in his Home and was clearly disrespected
by this Officer , why is that so hard to UNDERSTAND!!!!!......

David T.   July 30th, 2009 12:52 am ET

The BIGGEST problem in this country with law enforcement boils down to trying to hire professional police officers for peanuts.

G.Frazier   July 30th, 2009 12:53 am ET

I take issue with the criticism leveled at Pres. Obama for his reaction to Dr. Gates' arrest. I agree with Judge Joe Brown who stated constitutionally, the police who have broad discretion overstepped there bounds by arresting a private citizen in his own home. If this is allowed, regardless of race or gender, we should all be alarmed. In reference to our President, his statements were probably based on the fact that he is a constitution lawyer and understands our Bill of Rights, individual freedoms. Funny, I have not heard the talking heads mention that fact.

Patricia   July 30th, 2009 12:54 am ET

I do not think it was racially movtivated, the police would have done the same, had he been white, red or tan. Thats police officers!

Patricia   July 30th, 2009 12:59 am ET

Was my last comment too strong. Or you just don't tell the nasty truth, just the things that are socially acceptable? Those are Facts for Bryan County, Oklahoma. It Can be looked up and verified!

Jacqueline   July 30th, 2009 1:01 am ET

What are Larry Elder's qualifications for being a 'news commentator!

I have heard him pontificate many times, and he always makes me mad when he does.

Why? Because the words that come out of his mouth don't seem to be truthful.

Nor do they seem to be the words of an intelligent, thinking, rational human being.

Furthermore, he always seems so smug, so self-centered,

Certainly not in touch with the plight of the common man!


I am just wondering on what basis he was awarded his 'pundit status'.

If anyone knows, I would love to learn why!

gloria   July 30th, 2009 1:02 am ET

1. I do not think MJ committed suicide. He appeared to be in the best of spirits the night of his rehearsal. He had too much to live for. My thoughts is that no matter who else contributed to his death, Murray was the one who was with him at the time of his death. He actions do not support what he stated happened. Did he use his cell phone to make other calls that day, and to whom? Why did he want Prince to see what he was doing, this is a child? He should just confess what most of the world is already thinking.
2. Point being that is not beind discussed, the officer lied on his police report. So what else is he lying about? He is the one that makes police officers look bad. I wonder if this is the first time he has done this to someone. If he teaches classes, he is not living what he teaches on how to handle a situation.

Prospero   July 30th, 2009 1:03 am ET

Larry Elder lives on a different planet. Which part of our galaxy is he from? Perchance a far distant galaxy? Good God!

Ms. Nancy Jackson   July 30th, 2009 1:04 am ET

Larry, the only people who understand the interaction between the policeman and the professor are police and minorities (especially black men and women) in America.

Once the police heard Professor Gates state, in an "uppity" mannor that he was a professor at Harvard, the policeman, despite his "teaching" other police correct minority interaction became incensed. Perhaps resenting the affirmative action opportunities that allowed Mr. Gates to attain this high office. This policeman knew what Professor Gates did not. That all he had to do to follow "police procedures" was to lure the now angered professor outside his home in his agitated state. This allowed the policeman to arrest and further degrade Professor Gates. Thus, attempting to bring the professor down from his "high horse".

Additionally, Professor Gates responded in a mannor the policeman anticipated. Perhaps because he was tired, outraged at the treatment given him, a "Professor at Harvard", he forgot what all black men and women have been taught and is delinated in the handbook put out by the NAACP: "The 411 on the Five-O" on how to behave/ react when confronted by the police.

You may want to secure a copy for your edification. Sincerely,

mike mcelhany   July 30th, 2009 1:04 am ET

larry's guest marcia clark said that any one with a health plan can get a prescription high i guess she didn't know how cheap codien is you don't need a health plan

Raymond   July 30th, 2009 1:05 am ET

It has already been discovered that Dr. Murray has high debt. He has been working as Michael Jackson's personal physician but has not been paid for the past 2 months. It has been reported that Dr. Murray was to be paid $150,000 a month (that's incredible)!!! I believe Dr. Murray threatened to take Michael Jackson's life in a desperate attempt to cover his debts. Also, it has been confirmed that Dr. Murray is facing foreclosure where he could loose his home. The doctors finances was in an utter mess and I think he turned on his friend Michael Jackson and purposely took MJ's life. Since it was purposely done he should be charged with homicide and not manslaughter. Hopefully some type of justice will prevail.

vicky   July 30th, 2009 1:09 am ET


Patricia   July 30th, 2009 1:10 am ET

Larry Elder is the first balck man I have heard talk that did not blame things that happen to him in life on raceism.

Alison   July 30th, 2009 1:10 am ET

How can Larry Elder, a black professional speak so arrogantly (especially when refering to President Obama). As a 43 yr. old proud African Canadian, even I know that racism (especially in the police force) is still a clear reality. How dare you not show a little understanding towards Professor Skip Gates who I'm sure worked hard to reach where he is today as a African American in the United States of America. "Clueless" I say to Mr. Elder. There are some individuals in the African American/Canadian race who fail to support one another in times of conflict. This disrespect would never happen within the Jewish community. They would never speak of there own in such a manner. Shame on you Mr. Elder.

Anthony Adoghe, Toronto   July 30th, 2009 1:14 am ET

I am so Mad at Larry Elder, that i have to write again. Please dont ever bring such person on air, his comments leaves serious distaste on my mouth. A goat can reason better!!! Its show of Ego by sgt crowley. Am i suppose to believe that he walked into prof Gate's house, and the prof started cursing at him immediately??? then showed his I.D without saying who he is or "i Live here" then continued to curse him out? Pls those who have brains, let them use it. And then the bunch of cambridge police stick together to support the report that was made up .............. ofcourse thats what they do best. Shame on them all for indeed they ACTED STUPIDLY!!!!. BIGGEST SHAME TO LARRY ELDER who wants cheap popularity.

Susan   July 30th, 2009 1:17 am ET

I do not think our tax dollars should be used to buy "a beer" for President Obama or anyone else. Lets get real, how does this come across to our children. You get mad, go have a beer (which is a depressent drug) and get over it! How will we ever get our children off drugs when they are not taught, liquor and beer are drugs. (Just legal drugs)

Prospero   July 30th, 2009 1:23 am ET

Larry Elder owes his career on radio to Dennis Praeger, the bastion of right-wing ideology. He has no choice but to continue to be the standard bearer who carries the message of the illusion of racism into the black community by continuously mouthing the incredible. Ca-ching!

gilly   July 30th, 2009 1:23 am ET

lary don't u know who your direct neighbours are? am sure the neighbour did noticed the police being there, why didn't she go over and say something?

Kitt   July 30th, 2009 1:23 am ET

Re: The police report and the 911 caller
There is a big difference between "two men with luggage" and "two men with back packs." And, when the police officer told Dr. Gates to "step outside" what did he have in mind for Dr. Gates? Was he trying to validate his upcoming arrest of Dr. Gates, knowing that he was wrong to ignore Dr. Gates' Harvard ID (These ID cards have pictures of the owner on them.) Dr. Gates was smart not to go outside and be "beat down" by a Cambridge police officer. Now, regarding the term, "Your Mama" that Dr. Gates replied to the Cambridge officer–I believe that he was using the traditional meaning–"You must be kidding. You will not take me away from my safety zone." On the 911 tape, the Cambridge officer said, "Send the wagon." Police officers ask for the "wagon" when they want to arrest a large group of low life people. Dr. Gates is certainly no lowlife person. The bottom line is this: The Cambridge officer was probably thinking, "You have the nerve to sass me old man? I'll show you!" Shame on you, officer.

Anthony Adoghe, Toronto   July 30th, 2009 1:23 am ET

I am a proud African and a medical doctor who has travelled the world and just dont give a hoot about racism, but that does not mean that it does not exist, i just choose not to see it but very much aware of it....... Larry Elder has probably experienced it more than any of us can imagine but chose to lie on national t.v. SHAME ON YOU with your cheap personality. It better be the last time i see him on CNN or i will convert all those around me to BBC. This is not even about race but EGO, but to get some ignorant, low I.Q person ruinning my prog on t.v. is just damn annoying ............... i pay to watch cable pls!!!

Alison   July 30th, 2009 2:04 am ET

To everyone who is mad at Larry King for cutting off Larry Elder. I love you Larry King. You were smart enough to realize that Elder was being an arrogant, disrespectful fool in the manner in which he spoke of his own people. I admire you Larry and will continue to watch your show every night.

Kadimola   July 30th, 2009 2:10 am ET


The police man was completely wrong. As soon as he learned that professor Gates was in his own house, the officer should have taken it easy. He arrested Gates to show that Gates was still a "nobody" as a black man regardless of his status as Harvard university professor. Crowley was just making a statement, that is why he has decided not to apologize for his infamous action.

Larry, one can pretend to be someone else but some day the real side of that person would come out when one less expects it. That is what happened to Crowley. The real "him" came out on the day he arrested Gates. It is not because he taught a "racial profiling course" that the arrest could not have been racially motivated. Very often, and we all know it, people live a double life. They show the wrong face to the world and hide the real one. The best of Crowley came out on that day. We all know it but people lack the courage to talk about it openly. Even some of your guests on your show have hard time discussing race and racism when they are given a golden opportunity to talk about this hot issue on television. It is very sad.

There is something else that is really shocking about officer Crowley. Almost all the police officers who came to his defense were black and reckless. It seems to me like they did not come forward voluntarily to defend their fellow police officer in trouble, but they were rather forced to pose that action. Do you see what I see? Crowley either has "too much power" or he is "very well connected" in that police force that he has completely lost his humility and cannot apologize to no-one. But, other people have to talk for him. He is really "too proud" because the issue involves a black man. Is he the son or best friend of the Sheriff? Or does he want to send a message to the black people in America? "Even if there is a African American President in the white house, white people still do not give a damn about black people. Is this the reason why he used black police officers to attack President Obama?

Another shocking character in this story is the woman who started it all. She said because she did not mention professor Gates' race in her call to the police means that she could not be racial? That is very funny. You do not need to mention the race. She knew a black man was involved, and she called the police to put the black man in trouble. It is obvious, and we all know it very well. Can someone tell her to go to sleep and stop using television to gain fame?

Too much to say but I stop here.

By the way Larry, you're awesome. I daily watch your show.

LuCinda   July 30th, 2009 2:50 am ET

The arrest of Prof Gates was unfortunate and unecessary. I can understand Gates point of view, but get real, I do not think he posed a threat to the community or the officers. When the officer seen that he was clearly upset he could have stepped back, represented his uniform and the city he works for and said, you know I apologize, this is clearly your house, I can understand why you are upset, our mistake and have a good night , its done and over. I truely believe if this would have been a clean cut white man it would have happened in a different way.. Drop it and get over your ego. I do not think that President Obama any thing to apologize for, it was handled very irresponsible.

Blondee   July 30th, 2009 2:53 am ET

What world does Larry Elder live in? I am appalled that in America the land of the free and home of the brave that a taxpaying citizen can be harassed by the police in their own home after providing ID and taken to jail after requesting the badge # and name. Was Gates taken to jail to cover up the policeman's mistake? It seems like the officer resented Gates exercising his right to request and receive that information. The officer incited the situation and Graves to get the monkey off of his back. What creditability would a person's word have if they are arrested for disorderly conduct. Brilliant strategy Mr. policeman. Why in a press conference about health care would a reporter ask about the Gates situation? Was Obama being set up? What would have happened if he had pulled a Bush and said next? Who are the Cambridge police department that they can fix their mouths to ask for an apology from the holder of the highest office in the USA? In some countries to insult the ruler, president, or king would be a punishable offense. Does he not have those inalienable rights that our fore-fathers fought for; one being Freedom of Speech. Bush went down in history for being the worst President. Would he have been asked to apologize in the same situation. NO!!! and he would not do it.. Is this about RACE!!!!? YES. UNTIL WE LEARN THAT WE ARE ALL A PART OF GOD RACE OF PEOPLE THE HUMAN RACE AND TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY; IT WILL ALWAYS BE ABOUT RACE.

rs   July 30th, 2009 3:15 am ET

I disagree with every word that comes out of Larry Elder's mouth. He is the most foolish person since Satan. Wonder what he would say when "they" violate his rights? History has proven, his day will come.

Ana   July 30th, 2009 3:16 am ET

This is so very SAD!!!

I lived n Boston for 30 years, and yes we had issues with race. I really think the Professor should have been grateful someone cared about his home enough to call the Police. I don't wanna hear how tired he was, his actions w/ police was brought on by himself! We all get tired, would all of us get away with behaving like that??

Yanna   July 30th, 2009 3:27 am ET

Go Larry Elder. He is so right on. This was not racial. Dr. Gates chose not to cooperate, he needs to be responsible for his actions. Larry, you told Larry Elder, after a comment he made, "that we weren't there, so we don't know." You are right you weren't there, so why are you even talking about this. You've become a gossip, on your show, and it's riduclous.

MEME   July 30th, 2009 3:30 am ET

I don't believe that it was race as much as it was a matter of the ego. Both men Professor Gates and officer Crowley let their ego's get the better of them. However I do agree that there is still more disparity between blacks and the police in most city's in the US.

K Banks   July 30th, 2009 3:35 am ET


Cindi   July 30th, 2009 3:38 am ET

Gates versus Crowley

What would have happened if it was an actual break and enter and the burglar made the excuse that he lived there? If I was a burglar... I would definitely try that excuse.
What if Gates had been separated with his wife and was not allowed back into the house?
So what if he is a professor? Does this mean professors never break the law?
How can a policeman determine any of this, if someone is being uncooperative and is not providing proof?
How would Gates feel about the police if they actually did catch someone breaking into his house?
Would he not appreciate them then?

angie   July 30th, 2009 3:43 am ET

IN MY BOOK HIS NAME IS.......................DR. MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sara Espinosa   July 30th, 2009 3:57 am ET

Judge Joe Brown knows the law and enlighten us. Unfortunately, Officer Crowley did not follow the procedure. He took advantage of a uniform and badge over exercising his power because someone cursed at him. Maybe he should see some reruns of Cops where persons being ticketed have curse the officers and have not been arrested. What do Judges do when individuals curse at them. . Officers are train to keep their cool during situations like these. I would not expect Professor Gates to behave differently. This was an unfortunate incidence, however, it represents a percentage of cases where individuals are arrested without commiting a crime. sse

Kelly   July 30th, 2009 4:39 am ET

I disagree with the judge on your show. Upon arriving to a dispatched possible burglary in progress, finding anyone in the house would have to result in, minimally, identifying yourself if just to document the outcome of the call and, or to confirm they belong there. That is not unreasonable. After which the level of alertness and the call should end. Being professional and respectful is key. Citizens shouldn't be offended by this alone. The fact that a person gets upset, maybe curses at the officer, still is not criminal if he does it while providing the officer with the request for identification. The charge was not appropriate which initially made me feel that this was an arrest that should not have been made. If after providing identification, the officer continued to detain the resident by running a warrant check, then I would take issue with that. I have been lied to as a police officer. I let reasonable explanations be enough in some situations. I didn't push for their identification, didn't write down their information, only to find out later that they did commit a crime. What if the residents were away, and the officer left accepting the persons claim to be a resident. Only to find out a a later time, when the actual residents returned to a ransacked home, that the guy was in fact a burglar. Maybe even someone known to the residents who had knowledge of them and their absence, but no business in their home. They would be suing the dept and the officer for not demanding that the person actually show an identification card or some physical identification to prove they live there. I don't know if this was racially motivated, not being in the officer's mind. I do know that some cops can retaliate by making "unnecessary." arrests when they feel challenged, even when they are in the wrong. I am a retired, white, female police officer and was unjustly questioned by a rude, unprofessional, incompetent, white, young officer. The encounter was unwarranted by anybody's standards and the continued interrogation was unlawful. I insisted on knowing why I was compelled to talk to him at all. He was clearly annoyed. He called for a back-up, after having all my information, knowing I wasn't doing anything wrong. I questioned him on the need for a back-up. He gave me my paperwork back, continued reprimanding me while walking away. I believed and feared that he was going to find a reason to arrest me. He can write anything he wants in a report and I still end up arrested. I realize my situation is mild compared to what others have endured. I felt no less aggravated and humiliated. So, the motive is not always racial. Inadequate training, lack of knowledge of the law, of their authority, or just plain ego, there is no excuse. The few bully people, that is not what they are authorized to do .

Jennifer Gamble-Theard   July 30th, 2009 4:39 am ET

Think about being a teacher in the public school system. There are times a teacher is subjected to all kinds of indignities from overreacting students and or parents. Due to training and conditioning, we learn not to take it personally, nor succumb to the emotions of the moment. There is usually a bigger picture as to why people react the way they do to a given situation. In the case with Professor Gates and Officer Crowley...Crowley 'could have been' at his wits end from law enforcement duties of the day (frustrated), and of course Gates 'had just gotten back' from an international flight (exhausted). Now put two strong egos and testosterone in the mix--the outcome was over the top. But you know, Officer Crowley had the upper hand..."because he could". After Professor Gates overreacted, Officer Crowley slapped the ultimate insult and degradation on him when he called in backup police cars and had the Harvard University professor handcuffed and arrested. The symbolism here is that Crowley snatched Gates out of his ivy tower (elevated acadamia) and spit (showered) on him "because he could". When someone has that much power, frankly they need to know (or become trained to recognize) when and how to flex within a big picture by using more socially productive sensibilities. After all, this is America...we should pride ourselves as being more civilized than some far away place where only the sheriff has the last word or the dungeon is the only option.

Sara   July 30th, 2009 5:23 am ET

In the Gates situation, I think racism was involved; on Gates part. He made assumptions about why the police was called. He made assumptions about why he was being asked to show I.D. In his assumption that the white police officer was racist, Professor Gates was himself racist.

It was a lose-lose situation for the police. I hate to think what would have happened if the police had left the house without confirming that the person they were talking to was the owner and no intruder was in the house, and the professor winds up murdered. Then we would be hearing screams about the police not bothering to do their job right when the homeowner is African American.

Chris Woods   July 30th, 2009 5:30 am ET

Race should not have been an issue in this case. The officer was doing his job in trying to protect the homeowner's property. Without being there when it happened, it is impossible for anybody to know exactly what was said. Whichever party raised the race issue was wrong.

On your show, there was a statement made to the effect of "If this had be a black cop arresting Henry Kissenger, and George Bush was president, that black cop would have been doing" some unpleasant duty. I feel that if this case were between a black cop and a white homeowner, it would not have gotten any of the media coverage that this has.

Karen (Sydney-Aust)   July 30th, 2009 6:28 am ET

Before labelling anyone as a murderer, shouldn't we wait for the Coroner's report, a charge, a trial etc. In a democracy isn't everyone innocent until proven guilty? This is what MJ demanded for himself too.

Frankie   July 30th, 2009 6:38 am ET

One thing that may not have been mentioned is that the dispatcher asked what the apparent two men were, black, white or hispanic. The caller did not make that part of her reporting of the incident to the police. Would the dispatcher relay this information when sending officers to the residence? Was the issue of what ethic group the two men were pertenient and why? Is this profiling in some manner?

Lisa   July 30th, 2009 7:35 am ET

Karen: Absolutely right!

Maureen (UK)   July 30th, 2009 8:20 am ET


Linda from New York   July 30th, 2009 9:33 am ET

Karen (Sydney-Aust) July 30th, 2009 6:28 am ET

MJ demanded it; but never received.

Jeremiah Ricks   July 30th, 2009 10:03 am ET

Anybody else would be gettin charged with it they have probable cause ªИ₫ evidence so will he (beat it beat it) that's the question. In this world who knows

Jeremiah Ricks   July 30th, 2009 11:07 am ET

My opinion on it though would be america idolizes stars some even worship them in a way others worship money so michael had everything he needed 2 control man and he got what he wanted paid the cost 2 be the boss

mariau   July 30th, 2009 11:21 am ET

correct me if i'm wrong.. i think if MJ control man i guess he should not be dead..
If he was an addict.. addict to a painkiller a drug medication that his doctors prescribed to him. and if there's no doctors introduced that drugs then i guess Michael he will never be an addict for drug medication. "Painkiller" not "Cocaine" and as if MJ controlling man, maybe he can buy his own Pharmacies to have his own drugs.. it does make sense to you.

carolyn alexandra ipsen   July 30th, 2009 11:25 am ET

I think doctors´ responsible for patients wellbeing should never let money and/or emotions and friendship distort reality and ethics. Michael Jackson needed emotional counseling and should have received it a long time ago. Medicine should only be used as a supplement if necessary, not the other way around.

Kay EM   July 30th, 2009 11:29 am ET

Murray called the shots when paramedics arrived and he refused to allow Michael to be taken to the ER? He planned this public display and purposely wasted valuable time so that there was no way Michael could be saved. And he rushes down to get Paris? Why? Paris is just a kid? Was he stalling again?

Murray will walk free.


helena cy   July 30th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

i do certainly hope they convict him.....GUILTY!!! intentionally or unintentionally he is guilty!! he knew what he was doing from the start. he had no authority to administer the drug, did not help Michael in his final hours, he delayed the call to 911, did not perform CPR as a professional as he states he is, hid all evidence concerning Michael's records and files and what more he fled to hide. i do not think he acted alone in this. i think Dr Klein should be held responsible too. all this for money. a great man has gone and for what doctors greed. whatever the case is Dr Murray makes himself look guilty but the outcome to this at the end will be blamed on Michael Jackson. i think they will turn around and say it was all Michael jacksons doing. but to those out there who are covering this report it is up to you and owed to Michael, his family and his fans to get the truth out!!

Taliyah   July 30th, 2009 4:38 pm ET


Please allow me to tell Mr. Gates:

Unfortunately, I am not a Harvard student, I suppose my intellect is not equal to yours; therefore, I am sure that you have already discriminated against me,

As a black woman, I am fully aware or racial profiling and prejudice. Yes sir, I too have been a victim. I want to know how you plan to use this moment for education?

From the call and the incidents that occured, I question your ability to teach anyone. I do believe that you are arrogant. No doubt, you are educated, but stupidly, you believe that the world owes you respect. In this world, you have to give respect in order to receive it!

Next, Crowley, also equally arrogant, felt belittled and wanted to force you to respect him by asserting his "police powers." He teaches racial profiling classes, but does this mean he is not racist? No, in fact, this incident probably evoked the most racist ,interpersonal feelings that both of you possessed.

President Obama, well, is entitled to his opinion! Unfortunately, he spoke to press about an individual that he called a "friend."Sadly, he is being critisized for giving you too much credit. He believed that you were a man of good character and if you had been arrested, there was definitely injustice.

Needless to say, President Obama made a terrible mistake. His mistake was believing in you to be fair and just. President Obama is a good man, accused of being racist because he affiliates himself with individuals that believe their education gives them a right to be unruly!

Gates, you and Crawley really need to grow up! There are more important issues like War, Nuclear Korea, The Taliban, Healthcare Reform, Unemployment, Cancer and AIDS.

Class Over!

Toti   July 30th, 2009 6:00 pm ET

Only thing I would like to say is to stop calling Michael jackson an addict. Now you want to add more to the name calling and labelling. He was on medications for a man of his age, for his ailings, emotions and so many things. A Doctor especially paid 150,000 US a month should have known better. Even a regular person would know he needed help.

Kelly in Canada   July 30th, 2009 6:39 pm ET

Conrad Murray should be held responsible for Michael Jackson's death. He took an oath to heal, not an oath to administer narcotics and anesthetics to people who can afford to pay him $150,000 a month. He was blinded by the $$ in his eyes. He had a moral and ethical duty to say "NO" to the King of Pop. He chose to let money dictate his actions, and because of this choice the world has been robbed of Michael Jackson and all of his legendary talent. Michael Jackson died because Conrad Murray's greed. I hope he has to hide for the rest of his life. Shame on him.

john nelson   July 30th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

What an awful message to send to the public, especially kids, that a beer,( drink) will make things palatible.
Doesn't Obama realize their addicts in the world who Can"t.
He loses ground constantly from the bully pulpit.

Winston Harrington   July 30th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

What must be answered is if racial profiling comes more from the person or the society at this point in America.

Roxanne   July 30th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

The doctor was negligent and practicing out of the usual scope that a cardiologist practices. I wonder why he didn't have an AED shock machine that can be used in cardiac arrest? What a quack. His license should be yanked and the family should press charges. This should be used as an example for other derelict MDs who think they can practice anyway they want. He took the Hippocratic Oath to be an MD and it was to protect the patient. "I will give no deadly medicine to anyone if asked, nor suggest any such advice" I'm mad at MJ for trusting Murray. Poor judgement on MJ's part.

Jonathan   July 30th, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Hi Larry....I can remember very vividly at least four times where I have been racial profiled by law enforcement. One time at gun point! Just because Ann does not see reports or trials about racial profiling does not mean it does not happen and it is this attitude by her and others of her race that underminds the truth of this. Me as an Afican American know far too well that when things happen to us often does not make it to the news.

Adedayo Abeeb   July 30th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Please give me a break, as a republican, Ann is a disgrace to human race. She was talking as somebody who is not sincere.

Bella   July 30th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

I strongly belive in the System and I would like to see the system work for Michael, for us. Dr. Murray MUST BE charged in connection with Michael's death.

suzie   July 30th, 2009 10:18 pm ET

i love micheal and what i want to say all the people who knew about his addiction and did nothing should be charge it just like conspiracy to murder.

Kay EM   July 30th, 2009 10:36 pm ET

I agree, Suzie. The media is having a blast as well at his expense.

Kay EM   July 30th, 2009 10:44 pm ET

Larry, Murray must pay if he did provide Michael with drugs like Diprovan. Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath doctors swear to: “I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect”

Toni   July 30th, 2009 11:50 pm ET

Kay EM
It was Prince that he called, but I think Paris and Blanket followed him. And he told the chef to get Prince. So if he needed help, why didnt he ask the chef?

Kay EM   July 31st, 2009 12:16 am ET

I think he called Prince just to show how concerned he was - because Michael had been dead for a while already!

Neecie J   July 31st, 2009 12:42 am ET

Are there any emails of Sgt Crowly referring to Professor Gates as a "
Banana eating monkey"?

Naiviv   July 31st, 2009 2:40 am ET

Re: Beer at the White House Mtg. today: Please let's move on.
They met . They made peace. And maybe, became good friends.
The whole idea of my President having beer with these two guys in from of the world is not an image I want to give as an example to my kids – neither is the idea of him smoking. I want him to be the best role model we can have for our kids and drinking and smokey just don't reflect his character.

MariumSaeed   July 31st, 2009 3:28 am ET

Well, I just feel like punching doc in the face.
Why did he call Prince? Instead of other employers present there..
N why did he administer Diprivan if he did?

Definitely, he should be charged!
We need justice for the legend, how can a nation leave the assassinate of her legend like that?
Arrest him, bring him in front of the media and world and let us hear and see what he has got to say..
Why is he hiding if he is innocent and not a suspect?

Kay EM   July 31st, 2009 11:34 am ET


It's okay for our president to have a beer or a cigarette occasionally; he is only human and he does not hide his faults. You could tell your kids he is the best role model there is because he is sincere not only to us Americans, but also to his wife and daughters; and he is not too proud to apologize and accept his mistakes. Above all, he opted to become the first black president in a country that is not ready for it. I fear for his life every day.

Kay EM

MaryLee   July 31st, 2009 3:58 pm ET

Inept Dr. who did the unthinkable and a deceased icon. Damn Right he needs to account for this tragedy and pay for what he did, he breached his code of ethics and he admitted to doing this, Bottom Line!

Lulu   July 31st, 2009 6:17 pm ET

Dear Mr King and Hi to all that watch this show.

Two nights ago when you had a segment on with Deepak Chopra, there were images shown of Michael Jackson, was there a painting shown of him during that segment?

Could you or somebody who saw this show, please let me know, its kind of important to me.

Many thanks
Lulu 🙂

Joan   August 2nd, 2009 3:52 am ET

To Mariau and all the rest of you who want to know why, why, why, about Michael taking all that ish from all those hateful people and not fighting back against lies and evil (and by the way, I agree about who the "REAL" culprits you named responsible for MJ's death ). . . He did what Jesus would have done. He took it and he turned the other cheek. That's why he is now in heaven and most of the rest of us and especially those you named are all going to burn in hell.

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