July 29, 2009

Marcia Clark: Murray Prosecution Dilemma

Posted: 02:19 PM ET

"The Daily Beast" columnist and OJ Simpson prosecutor Marcia Clark will be a guest on LKL tonight.

The timing is amazing. No sooner did California Attorney General Jerry Brown bring down the hammer on prescription-pad pushers in the case involving Anna Nicole Smith, than a star with a million times the wattage, Michael Jackson, died of a drug cocktail seemingly administered by his recently hired live-in doctor, Conrad Murray. The Golden State’s crackdown on doctor-enablers could not be timelier had Brown owned a crystal

Until now, prescription-drug abuse hasn’t been a particularly sexy issue, news-wise, Rush Limbaugh’s laughably hypocritical OxyContin busts—yes, multiple—notwithstanding. Jackson changed that, drawing attention to an issue that, more than crystal meth or medical marijuana or the return of heroin, is the drug story our time—prescription narcotics have become America’s favored adult high, the cocaine of the new millennium.

And standing right in the middle of the bulls' eye is one Conrad Murray. I can’t say I’m surprised. As the last of a conga line of doctors administering to Jackson, he is the most logical loser of smoking gun musical chairs. And the fact that his lawyer has refused to say whether he gave Jackson the dangerous anesthesia Propofol—even as reports emerge that he administered it on the night of Jacko's death—hasn’t been lost on anyone, nor has the suspected use of Diprivan. I’ve watched as the focus of the search warrants went from the outer rings, tracing drug lot numbers and pharmacies, to each successively closer inner ring, until they finally aimed straight at the 10-ring: Murray himself.


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Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

Larry, please oh please. No more tabloid reporters. We need people with direct insight to this situation. We need answers not trash just rehashed. Or are we going to have to solve this ourselves.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 2:36 pm ET

What a joke. They waited too long and this sick doctor covered his butt. Thanks LAPD for screwing up another one.
Larry, there is alot of people supporting Michael, when do some of them get to appear on your show?
NG and JVM refuse to have anyone on their shows to support him, and if one happens to sneek in, they are ridiculed and cut off. What gives here? No regard for human life for a so called druggie, but justice for a drug pusher doctor.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 2:48 pm ET


We've already solved it I believe. Why would they pay any attention to us, when we make so much sense. They can just keep getting the same people that want to defend the doctor, and put MJ down a little more each day, repeating the same crap over and over again.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Toni, exactly... Did you notice those that have something decent to say( i.e. Dick Gregory, Firpo Carr,etc) are cut down. Both are consistently cut down and have important points to say..

Toni   July 29th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

Yeah, I,ve noticed it for what...almost 4 wks now? Tito is on " The insider " tonight. I watched him on there last night. It was heartbreaking. He definately loved his "little brother" as he called him. He said he regrets not being able to tell Michael how proud of the man he became, all of his talents and accomplishments, and being able to tell him he loved him one more time. You could feel the admiration he had for his brother. Gutwrenching and heartbreaking. It's nice to see them starting to speak out, but he stated how worried he was about their mother.

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

No mention in Marcia's comments about murray's odd behavior, missing security tapes, waiting so long to call 911. Diprivan can show up in a hair strand, but only stays in the body for 30 minutes.......This is definitely murder #2, no question. Marcia may have lost the OJ case, but I like her.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

I like allt he brothers. I saw a bit of the Tito interview. I am really trying not to watch any tabloids. This whole situation has upset me a great deal. I can understand about being worried about their mother. I am worried, too. I know how it is when you are older and such. That happened in my family. My grandmother passed shortly after my dad passed and it was because she had difficulty with it. I know that Mrs. Jackson and Michael were very close. I hated seeing her having to defend her son, no parent should have to do that. Unfortunately, everything is being rehashed again. IT must hurt if she has heard some of the unkind comments made about MJ.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

She has already made a statement on E.T. awhile ago saying that " Michael did not have a prosthetic nose, he had alot of his own hair and was not gay". So yes, I would say, unfortuately, she has been hearing alot of it. I just hope she is also feeling all of the support for her and her family as well. And yeah, I'm usually talking with all of you instead of watching T.V. It makes me feel better being able to talk about it , and feel like I'm helping to defend him. In my position, thats about all I can do except sign petitions etc. I was fixing supper last night when I saw Tito on , so I stopped to listen.

Myra   July 29th, 2009 3:31 pm ET

This is all very sad. But, let's be honest here. Michael is just as responsible for his own death as any doctor that he paid to administer drugs to him illegally. Michael was playing Russian roulette with his life. This is a fact. He used his fame as well as his money to inflict this on to himself.

this Doctor as well as many others who take the money of the wealthy to give them what they want are all guilty. But, the wealthy celebs who seek them out and pay them to fulfill their addictions are also guilty and responsible for their own lives.
Sad, so very sad that Michael chose this path which has taken his life.

Myra in Hawaii

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

However, a doctor takes an oath of "Do No Harm".....they tell their patients to trust them and to put all their faith in them. They are paid to take care of us. If they are giving us the drugs and saying it is OK, why should we think differently? Remember. drug addiction is a disease. They knew he had this disease and they not only caused it, but perpetuated as well.

melissa   July 29th, 2009 3:56 pm ET

its it to late did he say he did it it wont b in his body but from day one every one knew murry killed Michael..........I hope he dont get a salp on the wrist for this as he knew what he was doing..........I HOPE HE GETS CHARGED FOR MURDER.............I HOPE HE WILL LOSE IT ALL AS HE KILLED A GREAT MAN AND FATHER AND A SON THE WORLD WILL MISS HIM DEARLY LOVE YOU MJ WISH U WERE STILL HERE

Myra   July 29th, 2009 3:57 pm ET


I agree. But if a celeb seeks out a money hungry Doctor to do what they know that no honest Doctor would do then how can you say that he could and should trust him? How could you trust a doctor who will take your money to give you drugs that you know could potentially kill you? Both are to blame.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

Both won't be blamed. Michael is dead and if the media and anti- Michael activists have it ther way , his name and legacy will die with him. While the Doctor will get a slap on the wrist, a bit of a lecture and a fine. So I think Michael is getting the bulk of the blame and consiquences.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

I read that it will be the biggest prosecution against doctors of the Hollywood history .... they said there were so much drugs the pharmacists would stop writing the names.... if it's true the pharmacists are as guilty as the doctors, I mean they were accomplices... if you're a professional and you see that it should ring a bell and you should talk...

Luda   July 29th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

The story of those doctors, it's the story of breach of trust and misuse of authority because it's proved that when doctors say : " this is the treatment or the drug you need", people trust them and do it.....

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

Toni, I hope that is not the case. According to Geraldo and the plastic surgeon, they feel that MJ was shopped by doctors, instead of him doctor shopping. I hope that the truth comes out. I agree with you too about defending MJ and his family. It has bothered me for YEARS how he was treated. I remember in high school how we was ridiculed and that was the mid/late 80's.

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

What would've been wrong if Dr. Murray had said NO. He couldn't say no because from I hear he was having Financial problems and needed the money. While I agree with you that Michael was responsible for his own life, at the same time–When he went to sleep that night, he had no idea he would not be waking up–Dr. Murray was suppose to be monitoring him-bottom line is he did not.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

Adrienne: MJ was shopped by doctors, instead of him doctor shopping

they said that the other night on LKL...

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

You took my words out of my mouth. I believe that!! It was also said on Geraldo.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

I hope and pray Geraldo stays on this, and something tells me he will. I just wish he had a blog like this.

I'm going to leave you to keep defending " our Angel" as me and Jacquelyn call him. I have to go to work, but I'll be back!!!
My time here is 2:27pm. I'll be back on about 7:00pm.

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

Toni and Adrienne:
I feel I have to defend the Jackson family also, it seems to me that they are being attacked by the media no matter what they say. The media harassed poor Michael so much that he felt he had to leave the county, even in death they just cant' leave him alone and let him Rest In Peace. Now, they are constantly being put down and attacked by the media–What did that family do that the media feel that they need to be punished. Come on already.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

I want to believe what the plastic surgeon says. He seems to have MJs best interest at heart. I really feel very strongly that Dr. Klein did a disservice to him and HIS family.

Toni   July 29th, 2009 4:29 pm ET

Linda NY
Help Adrienne!!!

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Hi Linda from New york.

I know I took what Lisa said personally, but common there is NO comparsion between the situation with Dr. Murray and MJs case. That really hurt. MJ was falsely and slanderously accused. Dr. Murray did many things wrong. NOt only medically, but he knew he was doing it and knew the consequences and he hurt many people because of that. I could not deal with myself, if I did such a thing. Those poor children.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Thank you Marcia Clark for your analysis regarding the potential charges that could be brought against Dr. Murray in the Michael Jackson case. It was very informative, though I wish everyone in the press would quit calling him "Jacko". He has a name. Everyone should commit to using it.

No one knows for a fact at this time what was actually occuring in MJ's life. There are contradictory reports that show him as either healthy and vibrant and ready to tour and the direct and absolute opposite -a frail old man addicted to Rx.

MJ is the victim, he has paid with his life. But, he could not have got here ALL on his own. There were doctors, nurses, medical professionals, pharmacists, drug disstributors and manufactuors that all rode the train with him. Let's see some accountabilty at the SOURCE. The way the USA moniters prescription medication is an absolute tragic, gigantic joke.

Rx drug abuse is not just an "adult" problem has mentioned by a previous poster. There have been many accounts of middle school kids perishing form an unintententional overdose of a "drug cocktail" created from the prescribed medications in the family medicine cabinet.

Enough is enough of this garbage. We need to make a change.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:32 pm ET

Toni, he has a facebook page. Oh... she probably left already.

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

I heard that about the Doctors Shoppin MJ too. I think this is exaclty what happened with Dr. Murray.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

MJ was responsible of his life but I find hard to judge someone's distress when we've never been in the situation he was going through... I think there's so much things about he's life we just don't know about that would give us all the answers we're looking for but we'll probably never know cause I think he's death is just the peak of the iceberg.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

Larry King – will you ask Ms. Clark why Dr. Murray remains free? There have been numerous published reports that he admitted to adminstering propofol to Michael Jackson. It's been 5 weeks – why is he allowed to behave as if he did nothing wrong?

Could someone please get to the truth of the matter?

Dana   July 29th, 2009 4:39 pm ET

I really do not see the what the controversy is Dr. Murray was wrong in everything he did, and should be accountable. any dr. Knows that you put a patient on the floor or a hard surface to adminster CPR. He was wrong! Maybe the police should fly to the island of Behrain and start anking questions.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:39 pm ET

Linda, I do, too. I wonder if that was the case with Dr. Klein.

Dana   July 29th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

I totally agree with you he admitted that he did wrong so why is he still free to live his life when he took a life. It says in the Bible, "AN EYE FOR AN EYE"

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

Michael's Legacy will definitely not die with him. He gave alot to the world musically and as a humanitarian and I don't think Michael's fans will let his legacy die.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

Doctor shopping. How sick is that? Imagine being a vulnerable person and being courted by the very professionals who claim that they can offer some relief with a safe, proven medication. All for money no doubt. Doctor shopping here in the hood we call them what they are - PUSHERS.

How many doctors and pharmacists got rich off of MJ? This is abuse.

Just like Leonard Rowe said on LKL the other day "Would you put a cocaine pusher in a room with a cocaine addict".... you can clearly see the parallel that he was making.

Larry – can you have a panel of experts that are representing the positive aspects of MJ? I am tired of hearing from all of the haters.

To all of the Jackson family – I am sending out my love, prayers and positive energy to all of you in what looks to be an very, very long quest in the search for answers and peace.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

Lori, you know Larry really botched the Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe interview. Both men I Think had something decent to say. But, no abuse allegations, child custody and the other trash had to be addressed.

Larry, I have a few people you could bring on:

Firpo Carr
Brian Oxman
Tom Meserau
Dick Gregory– CNN owes him because he was cut off from Nancy Grace
MJs plastic surgeon
Here's a start...

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Hello All

We are having severe storms right now. It seem to let up for the moment. I love being on here with you, but me and lighting just dont mix, lol.

Now, I would not call Michael an addict because the only thing he wanted was to be able to go to sleep at night and feel rested. There are alot of people out here that takes medication at a certain time to help with ever problem they are having but that does not make them an addict. Now Michael himself did not come up with the thought of using Diprivan, it was ding, ding, ding, a Doctor who probably told him about it because he/she saw dollar signs. Or maybe an ex nurse that have a lot to gain by giving it to him but she will remain nameless. Anyway, doctors are the people that are primarily at fault because there is an oath taken and you need to follow the oath at all times, especailly with dealing with a persons life. Now true all medication have side effects but Diprivan was a big no no.

Dr. Murray was so wrong in a lot of things he did that way and no one could tell me differently. Murray knew better. And to make a child watch was unacceptable. No wonder Prince seem distance at the memorial. Of course he would because his father passed, but to be called by Murray to watch him in that type of emergency situation would be hard on anyone but even worst for a child to witness.

Now if Murray would have called emergency ASAP instead of worrying about covering his own tracks, the public would not view him like they are doing now. But no he did not do that. First of all he administered a drug in a home that is illegal to do so, he performed CPR on a bed, he failed to called 911 for how many hours, he ran for days only to return with a lawyer. So yes he killed Michael. Now I do wish Michael was only strong enough to see through these people and get proper help from PROPER professionals instead of dealing with all these quacks that only saw Dollar signs. But look at what he has been through, 20x's worst then what we all have. So people saying he was an addict, which I dont believe he wasnt. But look at what he was trying to do. He wanted to perform for all of us and never wanted to let his fans down. So you want someone to blame, so we need to blame ourselves then for wanted and loving him so bad.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 4:56 pm ET

Hi Jacquelyn, I do not believe for a second that MJ was an addict.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

Hello Adrienne, No he wasn't.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 4:59 pm ET


Wanted= should be wanting

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

My big thing is that if was really MJs doctor and he knew how much he loved those children he would never have done what he did. Seriously how could you give a drug that you know is bad for someone. That's malice, if you ask me. But, then again he probably was in such financial problems that he was not thinking clearly. Who knows what his defense would be?

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

I am tired of having him portrayed as an addict. I bet you if you go through everything you will see how he was shopped by doctors. This is why I wish that Larry would have that plastic surgeon on. I think this man knows what was going on.

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 5:06 pm ET

Dr. Murray needs to be behing bars already–What is the hold up.

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 5:08 pm ET

He sounded the most credible out of everyone that has been on. Now you know, they probably will not bring him on–They prefer to deal with BS that other so called experts have to say.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:09 pm ET

Linda, exactly.. He was so professional. I know I have said this before. But, at the very least, I hope the Jacksons go after Klein for release of medical info without permission. That was wrong..

Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Adrienne: I do not believe for a second that MJ was an addict.

Everybody around him said they never saw a sign he was on drugs... I don't know but someone who's an addict, there should be signs no????

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 5:19 pm ET

Linda from New York

Murray is probably working out a deal with the cops. They are probably going to bring in others with him. Murray would not be going down by himself if he doesnt have to.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:23 pm ET

true... He'll probably get a lesser charge as well. This is really sad.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:24 pm ET

I read somewhere that his Houston practice was known as a "pill mill."

Fred   July 29th, 2009 5:28 pm ET

Our courts only care about getting a guilty verdict not if you pay for your crime

Linda from New York   July 29th, 2009 5:29 pm ET

I feel that MJ is being crucified all over again even though he was the victim. It's like blaming a woman who goes out a couple of dates with a guy and on the third date, he rapes her and then it is her fault. Stop blaming Michael Jackson for his own death.

AL   July 29th, 2009 5:30 pm ET

Hi All,

Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:34 pm ET

Hey! did someone watched CNN last night? I did not. But I just read they had Dick Gregory and he was talking about the trial of 2005, he said Michael could have died at that time... Micheal would have told him: "Don't leave me They try to kill me'.

Have you heard about that?

Fred   July 29th, 2009 5:34 pm ET

Shows me he is a true friend a good friend doesn’t rat out a friend

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:38 pm ET

Luda, he was on Nancy Grace last night and cut off.

AL   July 29th, 2009 5:39 pm ET


Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

Linda, I totally agree with you on that.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:44 pm ET

he was on Nancy Grace last night and cut off.

That is becoming very strange that they're cuting off everybody.....Hummmm......

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Luda, thank you for posting that. He really was a good friend to MJ and he was one of the few that MJ let in. Maybe I will join him..

Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:46 pm ET

Dick Gregory go on a fast of water….

I should have add: For Michael....

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:47 pm ET

It was very rude bc I wanted to hear what he said. They went to a commercial and never saw him again. He was in the middle of a sentence. Anybody who has anything decent to say, they cut off Look at Firpo Carr, Dick Gregory.... It is so obvious there was a conspiracy.

Also, Dick Gregory made it very clear MJs parents loved him very much and so did MJ. That's how they got connected in 2005.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:47 pm ET

Luda, are you on Jacquelyn's blog?

YiniRamos   July 29th, 2009 5:48 pm ET

We have lost Michael forever as the result of a doctors negligence, Dr Murray has to pay for our loss, he was there when he died, what more evidence do we need..........................
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Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:52 pm ET

Adrienne, Dick would have said in 2005 Michael was afraid of a poisoning, he would refuse to eat and drink. That's why he was not well and had to go to the hospital....

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:54 pm ET

He said that. That's what I was alluding to in my last statement. Dick said at the time he thought it was just paranoia. But, now its different and then he was cut off.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 5:55 pm ET

Jacquelyn's blog: yes since last night but I didn't write yet....

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:56 pm ET

You should probably post that info about Dick Gregory's plea. I am sure others would be interested.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Maybe Geraldo would have him on. I don't have access to that radio station you alluded to.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

That's the problem. Each time Michael would say to someone: They want my publishing editions.... people must have all thought: it’s paranoia... During all is life when he would say something people would not believe him like for the vitiligo. Well, now he is death. so everybody say: So it was true!!!

Too late!

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Because the media wants nothing but negative stuff about Michael. They dont care about him. They already upset with him for achieving all things that others cant do. Like Farrakhan said in his speech, and you can love him and hate but what he said was true. Everytime a person who is of African American heritage would be crucified in the media first.

Adrienne   July 29th, 2009 6:09 pm ET

I thought that was awful when people thought he wanted to be white. I remember him tellingpeople he had the vitiligo. I believed him no questions asked. I hope Dick Gregory's fast brings about some answers.

Luda   July 29th, 2009 6:11 pm ET

The link is on Jacquelyn's blog now, Adrienne.
Hope it worked.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 6:28 pm ET

Blaming Michael Jackson for his death from undergoing propofol adminstered by a physician is like blaming a mugging victim for getting shot! It is like blaming a rape victim because “she asked for it”. Michael is the victim here.

This man was raped of his pride, vilified, his character and accomplishments systamatically attacked for the last 20 years. The only thing he ever did was to become famous, loved and powerful and when he reached the zenith of his career, he was destroyed for it in the media. He did not receive the justice he deserved in his lifetime, but he certainly deserves justice now. Don’t blame the victim.
Blame the doctor with the needle, and corporate greed. The media has a role in this as well.

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 6:33 pm ET

Yes, michael knew propofol was dangerous , cherilynn explained that to him, but as he told her, "I will be monitored so I will be safe". This was not the first time mj used this drug. Reportedly an anesthesiologist accompanied him on the history tour-Dr Ratner.....he should absolutely be investigated, since he may have been the one that introduced mj to popofol- very bad guy in all of this, in my opinion, and he should lose his medical license to say the least.
They cannot make any arrests until the toxicology report is completed. If there is no propofol reported, we will be back to square 0ne. Although LAPD got a late start on this, I do think now they are moving swift and being thorough. The prosecutors are trying to build their case, and murray is trying to eek out his defense. It looks bad for murray, but without the toxicology report, there is little proof.
As far as"conspiracy theory" goes- it does seem AEG and Sony walk very rich from all of this. But, any wrongdoing will be very difficult to prove.

Jacquelyn   July 29th, 2009 6:41 pm ET

Dirty Diana

Apparently Michael was already taking it before Cherilynn told him. So she does not matter. What matter is his doctor. All drugs are deemed dangerous.

Lori   July 29th, 2009 7:07 pm ET

It does not matter what happend in MJ's past. I don't think anyone can go after someone for prior bad acts. It matters what happened on June 25.

What matters here is MJ is dead. And it appears there were suspicious circumstances. Dr. Murray was the last one to be with Michael. What matters is was there propofol and did Dr. Murray give it to MJ.

The world will not let MJ be neglected in death. If a crime was committed here, the family, the friends and the fans will not let this be swept under the rug.

Cocovelvet   July 29th, 2009 7:19 pm ET

To Myra,
Could you please leave this blog, I see that you are completely lost from your comments. How dare you want to blame MJ for this tragedy as his own fault???


All of us who are real fans of MJ and have been watching his videos and listening to his music understands that this guy MJ always had a message in his songs, and it appeared to be a message of cry for help.; HE HAD A PROBLEM OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG TAKING AND WE ARE ALL AWARE OF IT.

I feel so sad when I hear someone like you putting the blame on MJ for his own death. Somehow MJ had an excessive pain which was trickered by the scalp burn during the 1984 pepsi commercial shotting failure YOU IDIOT, and he couldn't manage with everyday life without taking pain killers.


Lori   July 29th, 2009 7:20 pm ET

Is their any proof that Cherilyn Lee explained the dangers of propofol to Michael. There is only her word. Michael is not here to say what, if anything, happened.

Firpo Carr was in the process of questioning Ms. Lee and was cut off. Sure would like to know what was on his mind and what information he hoped to gain from Ms. Lee.

At this point I am beginning the think everyone is guilty of something.

Oh, Michael, what was going on with you? Was there no one you would reach out to?

Susan   July 29th, 2009 7:27 pm ET

I don't think Dr. Murray is innocent but I do not believe he is as guilty as some believe. He only worked for Michael for two months and Michael had been hurting for a lot longer than that.

I think people who maligned Michael and judged him without proof were more guilty than Dr. Murray will ever be.

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 7:38 pm ET

When i hear somebody say they blame MJ as well as(or as much as) the doctor, i don't even wanna go there. This is a Doctor-patient type thing. The Dr has every right and every power under the rules and ethics of his practice to tell his patient NO when danger is involved. He is compelled to make ethical decisions especially for the patient's safety. Where did "SAFETY FIRST" go to? Had the Doc said no, then MJ went ahead to do it himself, that will be another ball game.

Now, the Dr disregarded his obligations as a care giver, the ethics of his practice, his many years of medical education and know-how, and worst of all the patient's SAFETY. Are u kiddin' me. Ridiculous. And where did that land him?

MJ is the patient and the Dr always(should definitely) know better. I strongly believe that if Doctors were doing what their patients wanted of them and not what they knew was safe for the patient, then there will be no need for education on medical practice; since the patient, who hasn't undergone the medical education and training required, already knows what needs to be done. Ridiculous, i say again.

s.s.   July 29th, 2009 7:42 pm ET

2 Questions....

Isn't the fact that Murray was there & monitoring MJ enough proof ...if diprivan was found in MJs system & caused his death? I mean, MJ couldn't have given it to himself could he? Plus, he had 2 have medical equip 2 monitor him. The dr. knows what the medical equip is there other words, the avg person doesn't have this equip in their home & if they do their doc is going 2 know why it's there...especially when the doc is there monitoring the person using it.

What is the difference between invol. manslaughter & 2nd degree murder with respect to circumstances of crime & sentencing?

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 7:55 pm ET

Worst of all, MJ's addiction was well known. What doctor will treat an addiction by reinforcing it. Dr. Drew needs to help us here!!!!

s.s.   July 29th, 2009 7:55 pm ET

well Marsha's article answered 1 of my questions....

Invol manslaughter is too light a sentence if the Dr. gave MJ diprivan & it was in fact what caused his death. 2-4 yrs in prison for giving some1 a drug u know shouldn't be given in the 1st place & can & will likely kill them if they take it (especially if they continue 2 take it for an extended period of time). That's ludicris!

It should be 2nd degree murder.
("If it can be proven that Murray knew of the risks involved in injecting Jackson with the drug that killed him and did it anyway")
He's a dr. It's his job 2 know about the drugs that he prescribes or administers. Plus, if u have 2 sneak a drug out of a facility in order to administer it 2 some1 in a place where it shouldn't be administered & under circumstances that it shouldn't be administered...chances are u know it's wrong & it's a risk 2 human life!

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 8:14 pm ET

I think some people are still missing the point here. Whether MJ had been offered medications prior by other physicians for how long is not the question here. Yes, the ball might have been rolling from person to person(physician to physician) but it dropped from Dr. Murray's hands. Now that's the problem!! As a physician, were his decisions and practices right, ethical or not? Did he consider the patient's safety? These are the consequences of his decisions(malpractices) he is facing and should face.

I know it in my heart that he was probably hired because he accepted to administer this Diprivan regardless(probably flashed with a divious amount of money). Lets say MJ had gone to every physician he possibly could find("Dr. shopping" which we now hear the reverse is true) and they all ethically evaluated and said "No". Could he have had the means to obtain this by himself? No!! That's the difference between a Doctor and the patient. The Doc has that edge. Why am i even doing this; do people not understand the word "PATIENT"?

This is an underground epidemic that needs to be abolished. We are trying to break the cycle here people!!!! If something MAJOR is not done, the cycle will continue. Many many deaths will follow. Celebrity enablers must take a turn or go down.

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 8:18 pm ET

Mj knew propofol was a dangerous drug, UNLESS he was monitored while under the influence by a doctor., which he thought he was until murray stepped out of the room and left michael to die. No doctor should have ever used this drug on Michael at home, but at least the others took caution and supervised michael, except Dr. Death here. Involuntary manslaughter only carries a 1–3 year sentence.. Probably get out in 1 year for good behavior. Murder #2 is 15 years to life. In lieu of the fact murray tried to cover his ass at michael's expense, he knew the dangers of the drug, I would like to see him be tried (and convicted) for murder #2.

NINA YIRDAW   July 29th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

The world lost MJ due to some greedy negligent doctors. Michael shouldn't be died this way. He deserved a better rest from earthly toil. He deserved to be surrounded by his family, to be visited by millions and billions of friends around the world on his bed. To be kissed goodbye kiss by his beloved children. Not like this Michael..... one cheap, money minded doctor around you looking at you with his evil eyes. No you did not deserve this Michael. You deserved a respected, glorified death if you were not allowed to stay among us. Even monster murderers and rapists gets a chance to say goodbye to their families. Michael my heart cries forever. I LOVE YOU. R.I.P dear!!!!!

LindafromNewYork   July 29th, 2009 8:40 pm ET

I have a quesiton for Marcia Clark-can you please tell me why Dr. Murray has not been arrested yet, Dr. Murray admitted to injecting MJ with Propofol 24 hours prior to his death. Why is taking so long to build a case against Dr. Murray? The law always seems to take a different road when it comes to Africa Americans; If the victim had been a caucasian megawatt celebity instead of MJ, Dr. Murray woul've been arrested already.

Honorine   July 29th, 2009 8:46 pm ET


That's a point. I dont understand the wait.

Susan   July 29th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

What's your point? Dr. Murray is an African American. I don't think your argument holds water. By the way, I don't know of any megawatt star bigger than Michael.

Dr. Murray is not Dr. Death. He might have been hoping to make a better living from Michael but he alone is not responsible for what happened. He had Michael's full cooperation.

Dr. Murray has not been arrested because we still have a justice system.....

The video of Michael at rehearsal shows (at least to me) a very tired, old man. I feel badly that his life came to that and I do not believe he is fully responsible for that.

However, I do not agree with the "Off with his Head" sentence for Dr. Murray.

Sabrina Sims   July 29th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Larry Elders is a self hating wingnut. The cop lied on the police report. Please explain to me, what it is, that makes this person a good cop? I keep hearing this, "he thought a sensitivity class" crap, so what. He also filed a false police report.

EO, San Diego   July 29th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

::sneaks in and waves hello to fellow bloggers::

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

That's Marcia Clark?? Wow!!

Dr Pritesh Patel   July 29th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Hello Larry, I have been listining to many speakers on CNN and other TV Stations regarding the usage of Diprivan and how only anesthesiologist are the only one who use this medication. But this is not completely tru. This medication is used by so many diffrent medical doctors such as Internal Medicine, Pulmonary in the ICU settings where patients are on a venitilator support. So Diprivan is used by many doctors use in hospital or surgical centers all the time and not by anesthisiologist. Thanks

EO, San Diego   July 29th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

They will find that Murray contacted his Houston staff... and when they are able to prove it, they will charge him with destroying evidence as well as giving Diprivan.

yay Jim Moret! I realllly enjoy his level headedness!

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Too bad Michael Jackson can't be charged in his own death

EO, San Diego   July 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

They are going to keep moving the autopsy report out week by week– till Christmas. LOL

Julie   July 29th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

I sure hope they have pumped Michael up with lots of fermeldahide, he hasn't even been buried yet!

EO, San Diego   July 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

@ Honorine

I completely agree with you. We, the fans/public, should not support (financially) stars that have reported drug problems. When they feel it in the pocketbook, they should get help and then we would return after they've kicked their habit.

The *laws* HAVE to change! And it is up to all of us, citizens, to push for this.

Oh Jim Moret:
Some of the pharmacies KNEW it was for MJ. They didn't even bother putting a label on the pill bottle. Pshhh. They pharmacies knew.

EO, San Diego   July 29th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Has anyone seen/heard the interview with Joe Jackson - where he was asked if Omer is MJ's son.. and Joe's reply?

"I knew he had another son"


ROSE   July 29th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

My god this need stop ,These GREEDY DRs are killing not only stars but everyday people. All these drs that give out painkillers should be investigated totally. The law knows what is going on in these place's and they do nothing about it. These Drs and pharmist should be treated the same as drug dealers. If a drug dealer sells them they goto jail. Drs should be punished even harder because they take a oath ...Because they are making so much money Shame on all involved....GET THIS UNDER CONTROL before more people die!!!!!

Dirty Diana   July 29th, 2009 10:25 pm ET

Dr. Patel
Yes, the drug can be used for different reasons, but only in a hospital setting never at home due to all the risks involved.

Larry   July 30th, 2009 12:41 am ET

What about the security cams in Jackson's house?

Toni   July 30th, 2009 1:40 am ET

WoW, now if all people that had a drug problem, let me rephrase that, if all addicts could just walk right in to rehab without needing some kind of help {real help}, then we probably wouldn't have too many addicts. My God you all, he had sooo many problems and just needed someone to care enough to help. Addicts always fight you, but you have to care enough to fight back. NOBODY helped him like that. How many addicts do you hear about that have driven themselves to rehab and stayed? I'm not saying Michael didn't have a problem, frankly I don't know the truth, but instead of recieving help, he was constantly ridiculed and pecked at by the pulic and media until he finally fell. Not one person tried to help him. How could anyone, already an addict, going through the hell he did, and succesfully kick an addictoion alone?
The only way he felt that he could ask for help was through his music, and he did ask, but unfortunately nobody bothered to listen to the messages.
To some of you, Joe may have started Michaels problems, but the public and medias constant mocking and criticism at everything he tried to do , and being labled a pedofile for the rest of his, after being aquitted, played a big hand in creating the problem that ultimately took his life. So call him a worthless junkie or hopeless addict, i think I heard someone say, But to me, he was simply a human being that needed help, and nobody cared enough to do it.

Dee   July 30th, 2009 1:58 am ET

Yes. everyone cares so much now.........only now it is too late. He's gone and there will never be another in our lifetime. Yes, he was different, strange, unique, unusual and eccentric. .But, that's what made him one in a million and so special. He wasn't like anyone else and many people could not accept his differences. They couldn't put him in the same category as anyone else, so they had to demean him and ridicule him and knock him down.

kuriya   July 30th, 2009 2:35 am ET

Dr Conrad is as guilty as the word it self. First of all professional medical officer [ 101] should know how to do CPR and to call 911. First of all the Dr uses CPR in bed with no cardiac board, he did not call 911 immediately. He said he did not know the address. By using his cell phone even though he does not know the address the rescue will know from where the call is coming from through his wireless signal. People say he panic all medical professionals are trained and told not to panic especially in the matter of life and death. Also by administering medical that is not to be administered at home, is medical negligence, malpractice, and abuse of profession. A doctor or medical professor is supposed to look after their pt and learn to say no for the best interest of the pt or for their profession.

Lisa   July 30th, 2009 4:54 am ET

EO: What he meant was that he was of the same kind as Michael. As King said "it looks like a duck, walks like a duck – so it is probably a duck". He never said that is was Michaels biological son.

To me, it seems like Joe Jackson was the one that new least about his son. There are some things in the Jackson family that indicates that the communication and contact was not as good as it could have been. But on the other hand, it is a huge family. 9 children, some of those children having 7 children themself. I guess it is hard to keep a family that huge together. I hope that the rumours I ve heard about Michael and some of hte other sibling didnt speak for over 2 years, is not true. I hope they called him at least on his birthday to wish him a good year.

Jacquelyn   July 30th, 2009 5:05 am ET


Not all family have to talk to each other. But if they was talking to either parents they could relay any messages they wanted to give to Michael or vice versa.

Lisa   July 30th, 2009 6:38 am ET


You are right. Not all family have to talk to each other. Each family has their own tradition and structrue. But wouldnt you call your brother or sister at least on their birthday? Or even text them? I think most of the people in the Jackson familiy was very close and supportive but I think that some excluded them selves or for some reason was excluded. Joe and Michael were some of them and where they probably would have liked to be more in touch with Michael they probably needed some space from Joe.

All this is guessing of course but to me it doesnt look like the communication was as good as it could have been.

Jacquelyn   July 30th, 2009 6:44 am ET


Well yes you are right. But there are other ways of communicating with the family. People are just saying they never probably called. But they could have very well sent gifts or emailed. But no one has mentioned that in the press. I am pretty sure Joe and Katherine talked to all of their kids on a regular basis. Besides the majority of the family live at the Encino Compound. There is what also 23 grandkids living there as well. I though my family was big, but the Jackson family was huge. Maybe some of them didnt want to deal with the media like Janet and Michael, especailly Michael had to deal with. But one thing about that family when needed to be they was there for eachother.

mariau   July 30th, 2009 8:18 am ET

to Myra
first of all why murray accepted his job when he knew it is forbidden to give that drugs outside the hospital? simple question with simple answer "IT'S ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY" with 150,000$ a month!! of course with murray unpaid debt, sure he will do it whether it's wrong or right!!!!
and JOE JACKSON SAID IT FROM THE VERY START THERE'S FOUL PLAY,, FATHER KNOWS BEST i guess. it's father instinct when there's something with his siblings.

about Marcia, the government found that dr. murray administered propofol to Michael.. the only source we could find the truth.... the tabloids just tabloids... as we go on ... the truth shall prevail...
i hope that the officers are doing their good jobs.. May God bless them all..

mariau   July 30th, 2009 8:43 am ET

eo, san diego,
here's my question
who is really responsible to Michael's death????

Michael took pain killer, a medication drug.. due to his pepsi commercial accident, that's all started.. not cocoine, or other substance?
and let me remind you about his deep depression... what's caused him...
michael went through in his deep depression and loneliness, in somehow those people were responsible for their bad critism, dirty tabloids for almost 30 years of his life.. highly scrutinized vy the media and intense criticism and public backlash.
who is really responsible of Michael's death???
someone like you.. eo, sandiego, someone like martin basheer, diane diamond, the chandler family, the arvizo family, the lawyer like barry rothman,IAN halperin, the media, the haters, the racist... who else.. who deteriorated michael's life.. who else.. ahhh, the final is the doctor the last person besides him... the doctors need money to pay his bills.
i just pray to God that He will give the right justice to Michael..

Lisa   July 30th, 2009 9:43 am ET

Mariau: Good questions you are posting!

Ana   July 30th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

I'm having a hard time understanding everything, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. But what I DO understand is that, On the morning of Michaels death, Dr. Murray allegedly called two women to go to his storage facility and remove documents around 9:22am. So we know Dr. Murray was up and about at that time, but didnt come running down for help until around 12:30 in the afternoon. I believe Dr Murray probably found Michael dead around 9am, freaked out, and didnt know what to do but cover up his tracks, because he knew it was wrong to administer propofal in Michaels home, and that it was probably the cause of death. THEN when he felt he was ready, he came out hollaring to get Michael help. Thats just what I THINK happened. Maybe I'm completely right, maybe I'm completely wrong.

glow   July 30th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

1. Maybe it is just me, I don't know. Where is the proof that MJ was actually taking all of these drugs during his last days? Maybe some of the drugs were used in the past, we do not know. If I asked a doctor to do something and he did, how would I know that he a doctor could not do. After all they are doctors and he is paying them, just like lawyers. He might have believe there was nothing illegal about him getting the diprivan if the doctor gave it to him.
2. If MJ was using drugs as reported by some, how do we not know that when his will was being initial, and signed that he was not under the influence and did not know what he was signing. Who was the witness. We all know there were many people that only wanted his money. What did the third lawyer decided he did not want to be an executor? He stood to make some money.
3. I had a will drawn up once and told the attorney to leave everything to my husband and children. When I was reviewing the will, I noticed the clause where he inserted that he or his office would be the administrators of the will. I did not understand this and asked others what it meant. The attorney knew I did not understand and thought he could get one over on me. I would not have wanted him to do what my husband could do. When you trust someone, you hope that they are doing what is right. I would suggest to any one making out a will that they have someone they know to be a witness on their behalf. All anyone has is these attorneys. I wonder if MJ really knew what he was signing and if he was doped up.
4. I now have an attorney who is trying to keep some money from me in a law suit in hopes that i do not know and he can pocket the money. He will not even return my calls or mail. I am the client, so now I have to contact the bar. I trust no one but me and the Great Lord above. There are too many greedy people inl the world and when it comes down to money, they will do anything.

Estelle   July 30th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

j'adore michael jackson pour ce qu'il était un homme gentil quelqu'un de formaidable la vie es injuste il ne merité pas la mort il faut que ce medecin sois puni comme il se doit!!!

Vitoria   August 1st, 2009 12:56 pm ET

I would like to know how responsible does an addictive person does actually should be responsible for their behavior since they are influence by the' addiction side effect ' , is Michael responsible for his own choices ?
In my opinion the doctor has the moral and good practice obligation to deny and to make an effort to encourage the patient into get some professional help and introduce Alternative ways of helping the patience .
said that the laws should be change in regarding of letting the person with addiction to be responsible for their own decision based by that the person that is taking drugs without measuring the consequences , the families or one close member or friend of the patience should be a second voice to the patience so she or he to be able to help and to police the patience from themselves by having the right to call for help and disclosure to authorities since drugs does unable you to make the right decisions
we need to change the laws and by letting familes or friend taking charges of the Patience well being as long they are willing to help unconditionally .
Michael was a wonderful human been with all the human vulnerabilities , his money should not been the price for his life ,
with that I conclude that the doctors , the pharmaceutic companies ,
social and education programs , federal law enforcement should work together to prevent cases like this .
This problem is a matter of everyone business and welfare to help change the system , lets not judge but extent some unconditional love and educate our selves more about drugs and the consequences by taken it , more studies should be made with regarding of the effect of the brain and the ability to make rational decisions .

mariau   August 1st, 2009 1:31 pm ET

Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace;
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.

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