June 4, 2009

David Carradine on Larry King Live

Posted: 04:28 PM ET

Tonight, the death of David Carradine.  The "Kung Fu" star influenced a generation of martial arts fans.  He came back in "Kill Bill."  Director Quentin Tarantino will join Larry tonight.  To see the messages fans of David Carradine are leaving on his website, click here.  A career that spanned 5 decades and an acting dynasty.  We're remembering an icon, tonight on LKL.

whale-warsThen, the crew of Animal Planet's "Whale Wars" defends their aggressive & controversial fight to save the whales.
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Dodie - California   June 4th, 2009 5:31 pm ET

David Carradine was found dead in Bangkok at the luxury Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel. He was found naked and hanging in the closet.

I can’t talk for anyone else, but I can NOT imagine committing suicide naked. However, there is a known sexual technique that some males will do that can cause an accidential hanging. This could be the cause of his body being naked.

I am very sorry to hear this. He was an icon in my life during the 1970s. His family must be devistated.

Nancy   June 4th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

I always paid attention when David showed up on Tv no matter what it was about. The yellow page commercial was and is so sweet to the character of Kung Fu I grew up watching the show and hooked on the actor ever since.God only knows the whys,I am glad to have the memories of his talent, Nancy from Holiday, Florida .God Bless his family.

Shawn   June 4th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

I was a huge fan and my prayers go out to his family.

Joanne Osinkowski Ontario Canada   June 4th, 2009 7:25 pm ET

David Carradine will be greatly missed. To this day I still watch kung fu!

Karen Taylor   June 4th, 2009 8:54 pm ET

With the early facts being reported it appears David Carradine's death might be a suicide. Earlier this year an independent film premiered in the GenArt Film Festival in NYC. In the film, entitled "My Suicide", David Carradine plays "Vargas" a wise sage-type character who talks an adolescent character out of committing suicide.

Michael   June 4th, 2009 8:55 pm ET

How could anyone every forget this man. He was my biggest fan. I will never forget his line "I am Caine, and I am here to help you."

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:10 pm ET

If there is any question whether Obama is encouraging positive relationships with other countries of the world, I listened to CCTV (Central China TV-9) last night and they said: “Obama is greatly helping the relationship between the United States and the world which was lost during the Bush Administration years.”

I don’t know about anyone else, but this is proof positive the Obama is definitely making a positive difference.

John, from Naples FL   June 4th, 2009 9:11 pm ET

It was quite a shock to learn about David Carridine's death. Since he made that Kung Fu series when he learn about philosophy and the ways of the East as well as martial arts he became another person. What took him to that radical final solution? Was he diagnosed with a disease or was distraught for some reason?

N.Freeman   June 4th, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Very charismatic actor, who brought you into the screen during acting. He will be sorely missed.

Tarius Shinobi   June 4th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

God speed David Carradine........
Your silent flute will play in eternity.........................

hugh ~ cal   June 4th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

In David Carradine's past, he had considered suicide, for reasons no one may understand. Rumors abound as to the cause of his death; I can only say I'm stunned to hear the news of his passing. RIP David.

phoebe   June 4th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

"Now cracks a noble heart. Goodnight, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. He will be missed.

hugh ~ cal   June 4th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

By the way, hello Dodie.

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:16 pm ET

WAS he just completely burnt out feeling he wasnt being allowed to retire?

June   June 4th, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Absolutely do not believe Mr. Carradine took his own life. Do not trust the Thai police! Hopefully the family will have the body brought back to the U.S. post haste for an autopsy to get to the truth. The Thai culture is most concerned with not losing face – not necessarily in finding and sharing what really may have happened.

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

David was obviously a mystery to the very end . Hope he is in peace now.

Rebecca Golding   June 4th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Suicide is never comprehensible, and never believable-And always a surprise. How can this person we love have so much agony? Who wants to see it?

Barbara   June 4th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Do u think DC died of natural causes and to avoid a criminal investigation in the hotel and bad publicity ,it was easier for some one from the hotel to stage a suicide? This way less question asked about the hotel security , destination security etc?

Robert Stratton   June 4th, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Go in peace Grass hopper

Shan, Campbell River, B.C.   June 4th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Love is stronger than death even though it can't stop death from happening, but no matter how hard death tries it can't separate people from love. It can't take away our memories either. In the end, life is stronger than death. David remains alive in my memory and his gifts forever memorialized on screen. God Speed Mr. Carradine.

Pat Victor   June 4th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Find out whether David was on any anti-malarial drugs - many cause severe paranoia to the point of hallucinations.

Shan, Campbell River, B.C.   June 4th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I seek not to know the answers, but to understand the questions.
David Carradine....

kimberly Cole   June 4th, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Bruce Lee had been threatened by groups who didn't like that he'd shared martial arts secrets. Possibly an asian group in Bangkok, who were upset about the sharing of ancient martial arts secrets, caught up with David Carradine? Just a theory.

Barbara Dale   June 4th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I appreciate the way you are respectfully celebratingand commemorating the life of David Carradine. Good job!

Cindy Nolfe   June 4th, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I am shocked and so saddened about the death of David Carradine. My first reaction is that there is no way this man could have committed suicide based on the fact that he was just beginning to shoot a new movie and was so active. However, I am the victim of prescription induced suicidal depression (Reglan in 1990 in my first trimester of pregnancy) and ultimately hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital. No one would have ever thought of me as being suicidal either. I know drug induced depression and suicide happen MANY TIMES EVERY DAY in this country alone. I hope this is being investigated in Mr. Carradine's case. I LOVED David Carradine. May he rest in peace.

RJ   June 4th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Dodie your right but we must also realize this can only become possible at Israels expense, I know I`ll be hung by the christian right for even saying such a thing but we must realize that we give Israel in excess of $1,000,000 a day in aid and only fractions of that to the rest of the middle east with the exception of Iraq. We have to treat no matter how much the christian right disagrees with that. If you want peace and respect from these people you have give them the same bottom line!

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

((((Hi Hugh!))))

Wonderful seeing you here.

Keeping busy I assume!

Yes, I completely agree with you. He was a wonderful actor.

Robert Stratton   June 4th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Play your flute always Grass Hopper

yolanda   June 4th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

We love you David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

@ RJ ((( lol ))) you always make me laugh! We need more like you!

MaizeyinER   June 4th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Rest in peace, David. My sympathies to his friends and family.

Anila Haxhia   June 4th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

David Carradine was well known in Europe for his part in "North and South". A great actor, very original that will be remembered always!

S.Dawoodjee   June 4th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

From David Carridine..I learned Tai Chi...Heavenly energy meditation..
His thoughts will be with me all the time..

steff   June 4th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Possiblly unintentional asphyxiation?

Jody   June 4th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Dear Captain Paul,

Do you think the Nuclear Plants Russia plans on putting out to sea, Have any effect on the whales?

You Rock,

RJ   June 4th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Do we or should we even care what Rove has to say anyway?

Dino   June 4th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

My mom was a huge fan of Kung Fu. She took me to a local dojo when I was ten yrs old, because of that show. 6 yrs later I had my black belt and I never looked back. David Carradine was an inspiration.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Whale wars between Japan and Sea Shepherd. I have watched them on Discovery and have been very moved by them. I belong to Greenpeace and personally feel the Sea Shepherd is doing a better job.

RJ   June 4th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

oh by the way rest in peace old mysterious one.............

Janette Naraine   June 4th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Hi Larry,
This news was so shocking to me. I really loved David and his soft easy ways being a fan of martial arts.
I saw a film ages ago "The Silent Flute" and cannot obtain a copy for which I have searched endlessly.
David you will be missed by all. Rest in Peace.

J Hughes   June 4th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

I think it was strange that the people on Larry King's show didn't say something like the person responsible for killing David Carradine will rot in hell......They said it was kind of cool that David Carradine's death will be similar to Bruce Lee's and that they don't believe he took his own life but they didn't say anything bad about the murderer.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:37 pm ET

RJ... ( lol ) I found an interesting quote from Rove in which he stated that our economy was very strong in 2007.

RJ   June 4th, 2009 9:38 pm ET

lead singer of inxs died in a similar way........its a crazy world!

hmk   June 4th, 2009 9:38 pm ET

People need to take an Oceanography Class to understand why whales are so important to all of us.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Japan is using research as an excuse to whale

Daisy   June 4th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Namaste Grasshopper, you will be missed.

Shan, Campbell River, B.C.   June 4th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Those who put their lives on the line to save whales and our oceans are heroes plain and simple. Whatever means they use to combat this massacre and world crime is acceptable as far as I am concerned. They should be sainted.

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

The whaling makes me sick, it is money money money, and total ignorance that is killing our planet. Cant they raise chickens or fish farm?

Jody   June 4th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

They are doing a dirty job no one else wants to do. I admire them all. It is pretty sad when when people have to do this and the Governments / Globaly look the other way. I am disgusted by lack of morals and ethics by the human race.

God Bless the Whales and the crew trying to save them.


Royce   June 4th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

It's great that they are exposing the cruelty of the whaling industry...

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

This is tragic! Many species of whales were almost exterminated in the late 1800s. They are warm blooded mammals that were terrestrial.

Amanda Lahay   June 4th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I love the people from whale wars!!
They do amazing work and I can't wait to see what is coming this season!
We need more people who have the guts and the generosity to do what the Whale Wars team is doing!


angela   June 4th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

It seems to me that we are one of the few countries that have a high regard for animals and mammals and nature in general. Why are we always out there trying to save the various species and natural habitants why other nations think nothing of it, and please dont say that they need to do it survive.

RJ   June 4th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Angela problem is and again the christian right will hang me for saying this but the problem is over population and its that simple! Imagine what China would be today had they not instituted birth control many years ago! Its actually the one thing China has made strides in modern times. They now must work badly on human rights and enviromental issues!

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

@ Shan, Campbell River, B.C

I completely agree with you and the captain of the sea shepherd is from BC also. I am sure you already know that...

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:47 pm ET


I only wish we were that way. We exploit animals in other countries... Just not ours.

mike   June 4th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

What does mister Paul Watson feel aboutthe proposed hunt of sea otters on the west coast of Vanouver Island?. Is it ok since it will be done by forst nations groups?

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

RJ, as a Christian it might surprise you to know, I agree with you. I have always thought that God was more about quality than quanity.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

The Orca Whale has a huge brain. Their frontal lobes are actually proportionally larger than ours, meaning they could be more intelligent.

RJ... now everyone will be outraged that I just said Orcas could be more intelligent than us! lol

Daven Joseph   June 4th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I am hehe in the Caribbean watching your show and am amaized that Paul Watson in promotion of his terrorist actions on the high seas is also lyiny to the world. The japanese scientific whaling is perfectly legal under international laws and all great whales are not endangered. he must tell his audience that he is banned from attending any meetings of the International Whaling Comossion because of his Illegal acts.

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Capatain....may the good Lord give you a bigger ship.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

If there is any way that I can help support this group, please let us know!!!

Lisa   June 4th, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I LOVE YOU WHALE WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You a million times for what you do!! Please keep up what you are doing!!!!!!

We need people like you-who are NOT willing to step down to these "you-know-what's"! What they are doing is illegal and HORRIBLY CRUEL!


Shan, Campbell River, B.C.   June 4th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

I just get so emotional about this I cannot watch it. I want to donate to this effort, please let us know...thank you Dodie.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

@ Angela (lol) That is a good one.

I wanted to volunteer on the Steve Irwin ship!

We have to educate the Japanese children about whales. If we can get at the consumers, we can put an end to the industry!!!

Roger Jacowitz   June 4th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

What a sad day...I had the pleasure of meeting David Carridine a few months ago in L.A. at a convention. He actually had a chat with me after I asked him for a picture. He agreed to pose with me for 3 pictures, as the first two didn't come out. I was hoping to find a link that would allow me to post that picture and send it to Larry King.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Shan from B.C.

I am the same way. I become so emotional and then angry!

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

We have to KILL the industry. Stop the consumers and you stop the whale killing...

hugh ~ cal   June 4th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Save the whales, yes. Remember David today.

steve   June 4th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

whale wars crew are absolute legends, keep up the good work tream!

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:58 pm ET


I don't care about his past history. No one is perfect. If he has a calling in helping the whales, then I want to be involved at some level.

angela   June 4th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Well Mike sometimes a person just plain redeems themselves by doing certain things in life, I have no questions or concerns about him whatsoever.I wish him all the best and hope all of his needs are generously provided for his work.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Hugh... Awe, new lyrics for a new song??? Save the whales!

mike   June 4th, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Thats fine Dodie, But do you think leaving a large vessel in one of the grey whale migration routes as well as orca habitat is helping then? This ship was left anchoured and they never returned for it. Full and I mean full of toxins. The good people of the small areas went and towed it in months later.

Jeanne-Marie Aurnague   June 4th, 2009 10:02 pm ET

I only hope David Carradine knew how much he was loved by the American and Global Public for his conscious raising performances!
He will be so dearly missed!

Mary McNellis   June 4th, 2009 10:02 pm ET

If what Paul does is not illegal, than why was he arrested & held in a Canadian jail?

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 10:07 pm ET


I am not sure what your saying. They left the Steve Irwin anchored? Or do you mean the Japanese vessel was left anchored?

I agree, leaving a toxic ship anchored in migration routes is not a good idea, but if the large Japanese vessel was unable to move, it is very complicated not to mention very expensive to remove that size of ship from the open seas. There are also laws governing another country's ships. All of which I would have to look up.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Greenpeace is also involved in driving the Japanese whaling fleet out of the Southern Ocean hunting grounds

mike   June 4th, 2009 10:17 pm ET

it was a sea shepherd ship, he left it in the barclay sound. near the village of Ucluelet. This ship was abandoned, and it was left to locals and local government to clean fix and move.

Amanda   June 4th, 2009 10:18 pm ET

Uggghhh! You gotta love all the "theorists", eh?

Always some "conspiracy" for them to blast!

YAY whale wars!! ^_^

Amanda   June 4th, 2009 10:21 pm ET

It was "a sea shephard ship"??

What does that mean? Was that the name of the ship? Or are you just speculating that it was one of their ships? (other wise you would know more about the actual ship, wouldn't you? To give us a little more proof?)

ted lang & Angel Tompkins   June 4th, 2009 10:22 pm ET

Late Night Comedy Writer – Ted Lang

Golden Globe Nominated Actress – Angel Tompkins

David lived across the street from us for nigh on to ten years; I knew David really well and observed him at the highs and the lows - the absolute “low” being the day his Godson, Brandon Lee, son of Bruce, died. The lights went out in David’s eyes that day; he was inconsolable, this perennially optimistic soul.
David and I just ‘hung,’ he occasionally opening my eyes to new things, like the day he demonstrated the proper use of Chinese herbs by bathing them in vodka – I’m sure his herbologist would’ve frowned, but David just lit up one of his English Ovals and smiled, extolling the virtues of this combination.
My family knew the Carradine’s for over two generations, knew ‘em well.
I cannot believe that David took his life; Angel cannot believe that David took his life – It’s simply inconceivable to us.

Dodie ~ California   June 4th, 2009 10:23 pm ET

I agree Mike. Leaving the sea shepherd is not a good idea.

I support educating the consumer as a means to stop the whaling. You eliminate the consumer, you stop the industry.

Whales are an important part of the ocean's ecosystem. We are turning the ocean's ecosystem upside down. We have over fished, we have polluted. Its a mess. We have no idea what a climate change can occur if the currents of the oceans stop.

Nancy   June 4th, 2009 10:29 pm ET

I am thinking he must of went the way he wanted to,and I can only respect that.

mic   June 4th, 2009 10:40 pm ET

Paul Watson's awesome!

Jody   June 4th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

I can understand why the china men do it! To feed their family, Hell its a job. Disgusting one but a job none the less.

I can even understand the corrupt china/Government mentality = Money.

What I don't understand is someone blogging against someone else who is passionate in what they are doing and trying to save one of GOD'S great creatures. Why would you do that? Do you love research that much or just hate whales?

I also don't understand why other Governments including America who are not actively involved in the corruption of these whaling ships. Why the blind eye?

When will mankind understand it will be research that will end their lives also. I am guessing when its to late. Good luck.

Great job Captain & Crew 🙂

Mark   June 4th, 2009 11:04 pm ET

I would love to hear the Japanese tell their side of the whaling issue and attacks on their boats.

Baba   June 4th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

I am just sad that David Carradine has died. The murder or suicide theories make no sense. All I can think about is how much pain his family & friends are in. God bless the little grasshopper & his loved ones.

Thomas Cooper, from Arizona   June 5th, 2009 12:03 am ET

Larry, We all will miss the "grass hopper" ...David was a true American and a great actor .... I injoyed the movies that he made... We all will miss him. Are thoughts go out to his family.

Kristen H   June 5th, 2009 12:09 am ET

I am so glad you showed the segment on Whale Wars. I'm a huge fan of that show and think it's imperative that others become exposed. Thank you again!

Mary Hall   June 5th, 2009 12:23 am ET

I'm very saddened by David's death. I suspect he was clinically depressed and undiagnosed. It's very sad. But we will never really know. I loved what his niece Martha Plimpton said about him. Clearly he was very loved! I hope he enjoyed his life.

Dorm59   June 5th, 2009 12:23 am ET

One of my all-time favorites was "The Long Riders" which he did with his brothers. He will be missed,

Heather Moore   June 5th, 2009 12:31 am ET

I don't believe for an instance that David took his life...I wish his family the best and pray that angels carry David to his saving grace. There are many grasshoppers that will truely miss your beautiful self.

Tracy   June 5th, 2009 12:31 am ET

Dodie ~ California; I believe the sexual technique you are referring to is auto-erotic asphyxiation. Sadly many deaths from this accident are originally classified as suicides. There is still much that isn't known about this death though.

Gary Chandler in Canada   June 5th, 2009 12:33 am ET

No suicide note? Thailand!!! The burst thing the Boys in Brown in Thailand say is 'suicide'.

Mary Hall   June 5th, 2009 12:34 am ET

He should be remembered for his performance in Bound for Glory as Woody Gutherie–NOT Kung Fu!

Bound for Glory Woody Guthrie
Winner — National Board of Review Award for Best Actor[9]
Nominated — Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Motion Picture Drama[15]
Nominated — Best Actor, New York Film Critics Circle Awards[9

Jen dunham   June 5th, 2009 12:36 am ET

I refuse to believe it was suicide.

'Segun Olude   June 5th, 2009 12:48 am ET

It was always quiet on our lane in Lagos, Nigeria, whenever Kung Fu was on. David Carradine was our hero, even back then when all we had was one black and white television on the lane. I even had my very own Kung Fu cartoon book which I treasured for several years.

What a way to end an illustrious life, whether it was self-inflicted or a cover up.

Deb BKK Thailand   June 5th, 2009 5:17 am ET

I have to say that jumping to conclusions before all the facts are in is not good. And then, to believe the stories coming out is horrible. One, this is a top hotel. Two, unless you live here you don't know what is truth or a cover up. Three, this was a man who was all about life and zen.

If a person is going to kill himself(hang), he doesn't bound his hands and feet with a cord and then around his neck and then have another around his private area and that also around his neck. This was a murder and not suicide. It was also determined that none of the cords were part of anything in the room. The embassy is still investigating. This was NOT an accident. Foul Play–Yes!!!!!

Lightbulb   June 5th, 2009 9:23 am ET

mary –

for clarification, paul watson was not detained by canadian authorities. He was not part of the 2008 Canadain Seal Hunt campaign. Those that were held by Canadian authorities were deported from canadia and told they were barred from teh country for life.. Following the barring, they tried in absentia. Thsi si disheartening as Sea Shepherd claims to have GPS navigational evidence supporting the defense the ship was outside of canadian waters for the duration of the seal huint and was boarded illegially.

The Sea Shepherd organization is very adept at using the media, yet remains at a disadvantage as they hold no government support. Australian government officials were elected based on campaign promises of patrollign teh southern whale sanctuary and, when it came time to put rubber to the road, removed all governmental ships from the area for the duration of the japanese whale hunt.

I think it imoportant that everyone try to see through the media coverage that is coming and look for facts. Outside of the whale hunt in the southern sanctuary, japan purchased and imported endangered Fin whale meat from Norway and Iceland in May of 2009. This is in direct violation fo the CITES agreement regarding protocol in international trade of endangered species.

Please take the time to read articles both in support and in opposition of whaling and make your own, informed decision, then take some type of action. Donat whatever you can to those you support and try to make a difference.

The bigtgest issue facing our world today is not inability to influence chage, it is inaction to attempt change.

I shall now step off this soapbox. sorry for rambling.

J Hughes   June 5th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

Looking up auto-erotic asphyxiation, the following is what is now on Wikipedia: "The great majority of known erotic asphyxial deaths are male like David Carradine; among all known cases in Ontario and Alberta from 1974 to 1987, only one out of 117 cases was female.[3] Some individual cases of women with erotic asphyxia have been reported.[12][13][14][15] The mean age of accidental death is mid-20s,[3][16], but deaths have been reported in adolescents[17][18][19] and in men in their 70s.[16][7]" I can't believe people would write this out like this, like it's been proven that the man died because of this!

J Hughes   June 5th, 2009 12:24 pm ET

As found on Wikipedia: "David Carradine ( famous for the Kill Bill films) died on June 4, 2009. He was found naked hanging in a closet and was believed to have tried to perform autoerotic asphyxiation."

Deb BKK Thailand   June 6th, 2009 9:06 am ET

If you noticed or I guess you hadn't because Wikipedia and all of the international news media had already said he had hanged himself before everything was told, there is a 12 hour difference on the east coast of the U.S. compared to BKK. When it is Thursday night in the states, it is Friday morning here. So of course, we would get the real news here before you get anything. As to being hanged, forget it. He wasn't. He was found lying on the floor of the closet curled up. So, I guess jumping to conclusions is normal before all the facts. And also, it will be 3-4 weeks before all tests are back with results. And for the family to have their own investigation, that is very wise on their part. I am sorry for their loss. He was a gifted genius with a kind soul.

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