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May 1, 2009

Friday: Joy Behar vs. Ann Coulter & Former Miss USA Takes on Gay Marriage

Posted: 01:24 PM ET

Tonight, Joy Behar sits in for Larry as guest-host and guess who's joining us - Ann Coulter! She's taken on the left and even shocked the right, so who's in her sights now?  Ann Coulter takes your calls and questions!

artmisscalifcnnAlso, former Miss USA Shanna Moakler stands up for gay marriage!  She's the director of the Miss California pageant and she has a few things to say about current Miss California Carrie Prejean's comments on the issue!  Others join the discussion!

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hugh ~ california   May 1st, 2009 1:28 pm ET

How could invite a guest on your show who makes such pathetic comments like this one? “It would be a much better country if women did not vote.” (Ann Coulter_The Guardian, 5/17/2003)


hugh ~ california   May 1st, 2009 1:30 pm ET

Or this one. “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.” (Ann Coulter_New York Observer, 8/26/2002)


Pietro Sirianni   May 1st, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Please, do not give these political shock jocks anymore attention, its what they count on. They will say anything as long as it gets them attention, because in the world of entertainment any press is good press. Ignore them and they will go away.


FATBOY CHESAPEAKE VA.   May 1st, 2009 3:40 pm ET

THE USA IS A CIRCUS SHOW, AND A COUNTRY BUFFET! YOU NAME IT, WE GOT IT! AT THE CIRCUS,THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING THAT CAN KILL THEM AND INJURE OTHERS AND AT THE BUFFET, YOU ALWAYS SEE SOMEBODY THERE, SERVING THEMSELVES ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BAR!


Morris   May 1st, 2009 3:52 pm ET

It is a very low day when CNN invites Ann Coulter to be on their airwaves. Your ratings deserve to plummet for unleashing this insane shock jock to the viewing public. She has nothing intelligent or credible or positive to convey. CNN you should be ashamed. You are dredging bottom with Coulter. Everyone should turn their televisons off the minute this disgusting character airs. Jerry Springer beware, CNN is becoming a fast rivel! YUCK!!


D. A. Reuter   May 1st, 2009 3:53 pm ET

Why are you giving this fascist any air time? Every time I hear her speak, I can almost hear the words of Adolf Hitler coming out of her mouth. Do I have to remind everyone that we fought a world war against who promote a right-wing ideology.

I work for civil service and I swore to uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution and Coulter holds the Constitution of the United States of America in contempt and wants to replace our democracy with an oligarchy. She is a traitor, not a patriot.


Rose   May 1st, 2009 3:58 pm ET

Why is CNN wasting air time on a nut-job such as Coulter . . yet again?!

The current Miss California is behaving like a sore loser. Now she's cashing in by doing anti-gay marriage ads. What an opportunist. Aren't crown winners for each state suppose to participate in positive activities such as helping people? It's so obvious that her actions are linked to losing Miss USA.

She's not qualified to be an "anti-anything" spokesperson. She's about as inarticulate as they come – remember "opposite marriage" line?? Miss USA is a "business", she was not bright enough to differentiate between giving a subjective or objective answer. She has chosen the low road by the continuation of the pageant debacle via this "ad".


Michael C. McHugh   May 1st, 2009 4:19 pm ET

Personally, I believe in God and an afterlife, but I have no use for any organized religion. I think Jesus really existed, as sort of a populist rebel against the Roman Empire, but I don't believe he was some kind of god-man. Noe do I think that God wrote the Bible, but that it was edited, revised and redacted over 1,000 years.

Maybe Larry King should do a show sometime about whether the Bible is literally true or not, but most scholarship over the past 200 years or so indicates that it is not.

For all these reasons, I can easily support gay marriage, or anything else that consenting adults do. Obama has to be careful of cultural issues, though, less it inspire the Republicans to even greater efforts to derail all his reforms, but personally I believe gays should marry if they want.


Heather   May 1st, 2009 6:21 pm ET

I'm so tired of hearing Shanna say that she stands by Miss California. She is not standing by her. Yes, they have a difference of opinion and that's fine but Shanna has been personally attacking Carrie on her blogs and on TV interviews. Now she has revealed some very personal and confidential medical information about Carrie. That is outrageous and completely unprofessional. I think Miss Prejean should seriously consider taking legal action. And just for the record, I am straight but I personally believe that gays should marry if they want to and I believe they should have equal rights. Whatever people want to call it re: civil union or marriage; that should be up to each state to decide. I respect Miss California immensely for sticking to her beliefs. I wish good things for her!


Dave of Detroit   May 1st, 2009 6:36 pm ET

Just an observation-The Ancient Greeks were probably as open minded as any race and openly practiced homosexuality and public orgies plus really wild pool parties and worshipped the human body-their Gods were basically men and women with super powers and very uninhibited but this society did not once confuse the fun and games in sex with marriage-Why is that? I admit that Socrates would rather drink Hemlock than go home to his wife but the point I am making is they never considered man with man and woman with woman as marriage and they were the intellectuals of their day....


javamutt   May 1st, 2009 6:47 pm ET

LARRY: No one really cares anymore about Gay Marraiges. Its like the SWINE FLU, you hear about it enough that it gets boring. Both subjects are like Obama, trying to win over the hearts and minds of the American people by justifying the waste of Billions of dollars that did no good. Folks still lost their jobs, unemployment is on the UP swing and talk show host still have jobs.


Dave of Detroit   May 1st, 2009 6:49 pm ET

Mike-German high scholars tried to disprove the Bible by saying that Isaiah was actually three men that wrote over a long period of time as his Messianic Prophecies were right on and only a person that was around during the crucifixion could be that accurate=all went well until the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered that were scientifically dated as 300 years prior to the crucifixion and Isaiah was complete. If you think that you are the first to question the Divine origin of the Bible, you are not only wrong but at the end of a very long line!


Charlie   May 1st, 2009 7:25 pm ET

First of all, I love you Joy! Ann, what do you think about gay marriage and why do you think the way you do concerning this issue?


Michael C. McHugh   May 1st, 2009 8:24 pm ET

From what I've read, the Old Testament had several writers, such as the J-source, the E-source, the Redactor, and so on. The New Testment has a Q-source (Quelle) which was the sayings of Jesus, although no one knows exactly who wrote the 4 Gospels or when they were written. Then there were other Gospels like Thomas which are not found in the Bible today. Many scholars I've read think that the stories about Jesus being born of a virgin and rising from the dead were added later–Mark, the earliest gospel, has no story of Jesus comin back from the dead, while if Moses really wrote the first five books of gthe Bible, how did he write about his own death? This just means the Bible had many editors over the centuries.


Justice for the Righteous   May 1st, 2009 8:32 pm ET

Miss California you are beautiful inside and out. Forget all those critics. They cannot take the truth for an answer. Even if you defend
yourself they cannot hear you because they have made up their
mind. Stick to your values and principals in life and let the Almighty God take careof the rest. God Bless...YOU...And Ann Coulter..


BoPeep   May 1st, 2009 8:45 pm ET

This world would be a much better place if we were more concerned about our own life, than what goes on in the bedrooms of others.


Jennifer Leigh Neufeld   May 1st, 2009 8:54 pm ET

What doe the Miss Calofornia think her role would have been had she been selected. Would her personal views have driven her or has she now learned that Miss USA should be an inclusionary role.

She has made many comments regarding her views, I get that. But has she learned anything from the expereience?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 8:55 pm ET

Marriage was always more encompassing than the right understood it as. All the "referendums" these ignoramouses are screaming about are really just discrimination being written into law; like the nazi party did in Germany during the third Reich.

Rocks, trees and dogs cannot say the words "I do" and dont' and can't understand the implications behind it. Children cannot understand the implications behind "I love you" much less "I do", and are not mature and developed enough. Your sister may be hot, and your brother may look good in them tight jeans, but it's the other genes that you need to worry about. As well, there is a conflict of interest between the equal protection clause in the consitution and all of these cases. Poligamy is probably one of the best examples of a "Marriage" that presents that conflict of interest in that it sets the head of household in a position of power and undue influence among it's members.

Two mature adults whether man man, woman man, woman woman, who are capable of understanding the responsibility and implications of "I do" and who have committed no crime and have no intention of committing any crime by their unselfish act of wanting confirmation and affirmation of their equality bear no threat to the traditional family or the "Sanctity of Marriage".

In fact, Gay couples do not add to the level of unwanted pregnancies in that they cannot produce amongst themselves, and yet they pay into this privilege every tax season and have since the beginning of our nation, they may help ease the burden on the foster care system by adopting these children heterosexual couples, for whatever reason have given up.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 8:57 pm ET

Justice, you are deluded; there is no god. Your arguement fails.


Stacy   May 1st, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Ann is full of hot air.


lindy   May 1st, 2009 9:06 pm ET

Does Ann exaggerate for controversy? Seems she loves pointing out all the negativity, she seems to feed off controversy. Does she really think she has the answers to all that is wrong with the "liberal Party?"


Adonis   May 1st, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Ann, why are you resist to the change? why you cannot accept the positive sides? Get out of the box.


Debra   May 1st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Ann always does a great interview even when the interviewer is not the best.


doug   May 1st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

If Ann supported gay marriage she would be married by now!


Howard   May 1st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Ann Coulter has VD (Verbal Diarrhea)


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Please ask Anne how her "American Hero" Sarah Palin feels about the horrible comments Anne made about single moms. Palins daughter is now a single mother.


Clay Barnes   May 1st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Ann – Your "15 minutes" is up!


Michael McElman   May 1st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Why do you give hate mongers like Coulter the platform to spew their poison? She is the antithesis of what an American truly is. Let her stay on that other channel of trash.


Randall   May 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Ms. Coulter, under your economic plan, who would replace the millions of jobs lost by the attrition of the "losers"?


Lou   May 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

We are not worse off, because of the information the military/and
other organizations have provided us.
The Genevia convention says that "torture" is against the law.
Does your guest want the US to go against the law?
Or have torture done to out American Soldiers?


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

I am against torture, "real" torture, but nothing that was done to U.S. detainees can compare to what John McCain had to endure.


Sharon Hoyt   May 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Why is Ann Coulter so negative? She does a lot of damage to the "right". She must be a very unhappy person.


Simin   May 1st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Why do you have this woman, Ann coulter on your show. When I listen to her my blood pressure goes high. She is not good for society's health. Get her off please!


aden   May 1st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

shame on CNN for interviewing this woman!!


Jdavis   May 1st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Ann Coulter is so last millenium. Move on! Who gives a rat's A$$ what she thinks about any subject. She thrives on anything contravesial.


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

never in a million years would I agree with Ann Coulter, HOWEVER, on the water boarding. Who cares, these people think nothing of chopping off a persons head with a dull saw, are you kidding me? It doesnt kill , maybe we need to put this in perspective before these zealots divide and conquer more than they have already.


Emma   May 1st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Love Joy. She's fun and speaks her mind. I will keep checking back to see if Ann coulter has left the stage. Ann is predictable, tiresome and loves being outrageous. Apparently there is an audience with more patience for her than I have.


Karen   May 1st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Doesn't it matter that there just might be innocent people waterboarded?


G weber   May 1st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

What a waste of air time to put coulter on.
i just turned my tv off


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Oh dear god you do NOT say that Coulter is taking calls and then not put the number on the screen. For those of you who don't know what it is, it's

1800 676 2100


linda   May 1st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Ann reminds me of why I am a liberal


jack   May 1st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

This woman talks such utter nonsense and is a shriill shill for the extreme right. Anyone who gives her credence is sorely lacking in real information, or choose to be ignorant . It would be nice if this hate -spewing , and lying person is not invited on TV shows, let Fox be stuck with her nonsense. And I hope their ratings plunge.


Martha Powell   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Ann Coulter sure does look sleep-deprived, sounds shrewish, awful hair and dress, but somehow her performance with Joy works well on Larry King Live – they seem to bring out something almost good in each other. Joy sounds clever, as she is, you can tell she has a great sense of humour whereas Ann just bleats and you can easily tell she would always be the least amusing person in the room but also the only one who doesn't know that about herself. Cracks me up.


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Angela, Exactly! The MSM didn't make this much out of the beheading of Sgt. Keith Maupin why are they so worried about these criminals?


Cheri   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I like how Ann made the huge jump to abortion from torture... but wait, is it really a huge jump? NO! Research shows that a fetus actually feels pain in early weeks after conception during the abortion process. That sounds pretty torturous.


Sharon   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I'm a 43 year old African-American woman, and I've always wondered why Republicans always seem so mean, nasty and hateful.


Jeff   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

When were ANY of the Faux Noise male anchors waterboarded on television?!!? I'd pay GOOD money to see that.


Don Kingsley   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I would like to have Ann undergo waterboarding to get a first person report on whether waterboarding is torture. Of all the talking heads, only John McCain seems to have some authority on this subject.


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Waterboard her and Hannity I'll pay money to watch that let alone pay to do it. They're rich and don't want to pay taxes and did she just dis Megan MCcain?


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

The US said that water boarding was torture when the Spanish did it why not now? It is a technique that came from the Spanish inquisition, just like techniques in horror movies, but it its not as graphic. And Mohammad could only last 90 seconds.


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

i think Joy and Ann are having fun with each other....TV land


Adonis   May 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Ann, do you know the "losers" are the ones that deliver your mail, protect you, cook for you, make the stuff you use everyday? Have you forgotten that the majority of us "loser" work for you? Should be careful what say about the lower class since there are more of us than the rich.


Jae Baeli   May 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

If Colter thinks that waterboarding is more like hazing than torture, I would first suggest that some hazing is torture, and second, that she should allow herself to be waterboarded, and then she'll have a more accurate perspective.


Ana,Miami, Fl   May 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Why does Ann Coulter have so much trouble looking at the camera?
That's the same as not being able to make eye contact. I don't trust anyone who can't make "eye contact".
Joy, you're the best! Take her to task! Make her answer a question.


Glen   May 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Ann Coulter is awesome!! Homosexual marriage is an abomination! God bless America, or whatever is left of it!


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Forget Coulter and Palin, Meghan McCain is the new voice of the RNC


Myrto   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Did Ann just compare Guantanamo to fraternity houses?!?


GWEITZ   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I love how she brought up abortion because it sounds like water boarding so ignorant!!!


Joseph Cohen   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I am from Germany. I am watching Larry King right now. How can you invite this Ann Coulter. I cannot listen to her. She is a disgrace for this country! Shye does not have her facts right. Stupid lady.


Joy Ferguson   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Keep Ann Coulter talking....everytime she & Cheney open their mouths...the Democratic party's approval rating goes up.


bonnie   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

why do they give ann air time...who cares what she thinks...she thinks she is much more important than what she really is...and joy, ann cannot be objective...interview people that your viewers enjoy not ann colter


Sue Miller   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Must we continue to bear up to that loud-mouthed Ann Coulter? When I tune in and find her, displaying more of her screeching and opinionated bad attitude, I turn off the Larry King Live show. She is one of the most objectionable fools I've seen on the LK show – she is a difficult and objectionable guest and a hideous woman.


paul coggins   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

why stoop so low in having this airhead on your show


Laura   May 1st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Ann –
I really look forward to hearing you speak but with all the joking and constant laughing you throw into every answer – it really leaves one to wonder how seriously to take you!


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Ann, you are awesome! I love how you speak your mind without worrying about being politically correct!


BoPeep   May 1st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

She would be much prettier if tape was over her mouth.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Ann Coulater gives women a bad name. Stop pandnering to her viewpoints.


Jenn   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Go Ann. Give it Behar!


paul coggins   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

as to Glen's comment. Spoken like a true christian


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Joy is showing incredible control tonight. Sometimes she gets a little 'snarky' w/ Ann. Great job Joy!!


Chris Schlorman   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I use to hate her, now I relate to her. Thanks Obama!!


Susan Pinadella   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Anne Coulter should not be priviliged to speak about important issues on TV. She makes stupid people look ignorant. Joy Behar makes can make a good challenge if Anne would shut up and let someone else speak. CNN can make better decisions too.


Jason in Buffalo   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Why do we listen to her? She can barley form a coherent thought.


Debbie   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Why is Ann Coulter a Queen? I've never heard of her and I don't appreciate her comments.


Shannon   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Maybe Anne Coulter should be waterboarded permanently and kept off the airwaves. She is a viscerally hateful human being.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

'To conclude that a proposition is true, it is not enough to know that this man or that finds it [credible]: the proposition itself must be worthy of credence.' ~ Toulmin"

Ann Should Learn this.


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

one day we will find out that Ann is more like the way the boondocks portrayed her then she is the way conservatives portray her


Cchampion   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

First and foremost, Ann needs to immediately evaluate her personal sphere in regards to her stylist....she looks absolutely terrible!
How can she possibly make an argument using Karla Faye Tucker as an example and not know that she was in fact the first woman to be executed in Texas since the Civil War. Speaks volumes about how on top of it she is with other important issues. She holds no weight in my world!


Adam Belial   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Anne, I agree with most things you say but as a Muslim, I feel I must ask this: Do you dislike Arabs/Muslims?


Niko   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Ann Coulter has about as much credibility as George W. Bush. She is SO irrelevant, so why are you even interviewing here. Just like the press being given to Carrie Prejean, you are giving her much more press than she really deserves.


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Someone should ask Obama and his supporters if their children were being held hostage and there was someone suspected of knowing where they were what would they do to get the info out if none of their "accepted" tactics worked?


mark in colorado   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Joy you are embarrassing yourself.


Daniel Anya   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

She just talking. No substance


Bobby   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Keep up the great work, Ann! We love you in NC!


Robert Campbell   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ann,
You seem a bit calmer than usual, What's the scoop?


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

CNN has Ann on the show because they are trying to show that they are not a biased media outlet. With that being said, they are failing miserably and Republicans can see right through the cloud of smoke.


Jan Kershaw   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ann Coulter needs major psychotropic medication. Can somebody help her?


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Democrat, democratic? who cares, same dam thing.


Rita B   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Why do you even have Ann Coulter on the show? I'm all for being fair & balanced, but Ann Coulter!! She hates EVERYONE except the self described "perfect me" Ann. And BTW, her idea of perfect is not the description of any (let me repeat that) any woman I know. She not only hates Dems, she hates anything that is open minded and gee, maybe "fair" .


Jeff   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ann, I am a 21 year old gay New Yorker, and I can't decide if I love or hate you – but at least you speak your mind!
And Joy – you rock! Love you!


Nick   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Hi Ann, do you think marijuana should be legalized?


LB   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

I love it when Ann Coulter is on TV, so I can just hear the idiocies that come out of her mouth...."would you like to be aborted".....classic


Bill Michel   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ann,

I get exactly what you are saying........I agree with a majority of your opinions and views.......and I LOVE to hear you "rattle the cages" of left-wing nut jobs!

Thanks for fighting the good fight!


Ram   May 1st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ann Coulter....you needed a break.... a long break.... you should take hunting trip with Dick Cheney.


normajean   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

it is such a shame to have "squeky ann coulter" taking up her hot-air-space on Larry King! With her cosmetic makeovers, coulter could have at least polished her public speaking skills and basic mannerisms.....this drag queen needs to crawl back into her trailer park in vegas.....she is so hokey! she has no credibility....she needs to get a job & stay off the airways.......yuck! coulter &pahlin! Both Cartoons!

disenchanted in the sw


A Gilbert   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Why are you even giving this person soooo much coverage??


Simin   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

I will not put myself in her level to ask her any question. What does she know anyway? No wonder she is still unmarried. She is unberable.


Tee Jay   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

She would be much, much prettier if "I" had tape over my eyes!


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Ann Coulter, like Rush Limbaugh, is entertainment masquerading as serious political discourse. She is a brand, and promotes herself as such.


Steve Igrison   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Anne Coulter, you're right on track, keep it up!!


Belinda   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Who is Ann Coulter and why do we even care about what she says??


Joseph Cohen   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

I am German, watching Larry King here in the US. Ann Coulter is a disgrace for the United States. George Bush ruined the standing of the US in the world. She fits right in there.


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Ann Coulter is a destructive force in America. Although I disagree with her, I support her right to say whatever nonsense she wants to spew. However, I think it does CNN an injustice by featuring Coulter.


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

I love Ann coulter. She gives liberals a taste of their own nasty medicine. I've listened to liberals bash conservatives for years and they have a terrific opponent in Ann Coulter.


Helen Hahn   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Does Ann Coulter ever listen? Maybe she needs to visit "normal" people!


robin foden   May 1st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Ann I'd vote for you in 2012 in a heartbeat! You rock!


harry   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

She is a clone of limbaugh


Vanessa   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Ann needs to join Palin in Alaska and stay there.


Amanda   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

I really think Ann should do the American people a favor and volunteer herself for waterboarding...since it's not really torture.


Rodney   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Ann, you are very, very scary. Please say you're kidding.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Ann Coulter and Steel Panther, both hilarious parodies, but only one has great hair.......


Linda Brannigan   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Coulter will do or say anything for the celebrity and money. She should team up with Rush and take there show on the road. Legitimate media should simply ignore them and maybe they'll just go away.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Glen, get an education, and by education I mean anythign other than listening to toby Keith cd's and taking them as either literal, justified or fact.

And god never existed to bless anyone.


Jeff LeClair   May 1st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Why is anybody still asking Ann Coulter for her opinion on anything? Stop asking her, and we won't be subjected to her foul mouthed left wing rhetoric, which equals absolutely NOTHING. My dinner salad is more informed than her. Let her support Sarah Palin, they are birds fo a feather, dumber than an organic carrot.


laura   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Former President Bill Clinton was held in check and balance by the Republicans??? They stopped him from being an effective President by trying to impeach him!


Rick St Thomas   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Ann, you're just a Nazi; period.


Kathy Williams   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Ann Coulter does nothing but spew hate speech. I do not understand why anyone would want to listen to anything she has to say. I do not understand why you would have her on your program. She is a pathetic person.


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

@Allie all that smoke is from the right. Their out of steam and out of ideas.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Anne, your picture at the gun range was really hot!


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Ann, will you sponsor the Muslim witch hunt, like we did for communists?


Karl Norling   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I wonder how many times Ann has been outside the States and seen the real world and how other countries are being governed around the world, I would recommend a deep look into the governing of Sweden.


Tee Jay   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

When you have nothing to say, say it loudly, never give anyone else a chance to speak and be sure to insert ear plugs so that all you hear is yourself.


Randy Wakefield   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Do you think the Republican party has become the party of NO


Joshua C. Jones   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Would you please have Ms. Coulter name one Fox news host who has been waterboarded and also name three times that Arlen Spector has voted with the democrats this congressional session or the last. Don't let her keep lying without any challenge


Jazzy   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

oh conservatives....you're concerned about destroying a collection of cells no bigger than your fingernail and yet you don't care about the millions of innocent children and people in the middle east being bombed.

because that's what REAL america is all about, right Ann?


Lars   May 1st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Hi Ann,

It seems to me that you are smart and capable, but say horrible things just to get press. I remember Bill Maher saying something very similar about you. What is your take on Bill Maher and liberal comedians in general in this new post-bush era. As he and John Stewart increasingly represent the majority opinion in this country, are you ever fearful that your shtick has run its course?


Sam P   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

The GOP is amazing! They impeach Clinton over a sexual mistake and deserved public lashing, but don"t want any investigation of misuse of Powers during the Bush years- Patriot Act, Torture, a War in Iraq with contracts given to Haliburton. They want to move on! I do not want to reopen the past at all, I just laugh at the hypocrisy! The only reason Bush wasn't impeached was that Republicans controlled Congress !


Dominic   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Hey Joy, We refer to Democrats and Republicans, not Democratics and Republicanics. It not the right wing conspiracy you think. More correct grammar.


Chris   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ms. Coulter, when can we expect you in the race for a presidential bid?


Belinda   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Somebody PLEASE shut this woman up!!


Alex O.   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ann Coulter, my conservative heroine, keep it up! And do not call her stupid names you liberal fools, since that's all you know how to do. I think it is funny how Joy Behar is a woman and is heard all the time and people do not have a huge problem with it, and Ann is also a woman with a lot of actual important things to say and the liberals can't say enough disgusting things about her. I love Ann because she knows how to play them, even in a room full of obnoxious invalids. Love you Ann!!!


Michelle   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

People like Ann Coulter is what's wrong with America.


John C   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ann is the brightest light in the media today!


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Michael–but these liberals celebs who spout their opinions like sean Penn or Tim Robbins are intelligent and informed but Ann Coulter is not? Give me a break.She is more educated than these dumb celebs who preach about politics.


steve huska   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

ask ann,would she prefer pulling out three of her toenails instead of all twelve


Joe   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ann, we on the right love you.


Cheri   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Palin sure is a "real American" – not respected around the world, ignorant, and naive. I am shocked by the state of the current school-age generation... and afraid of the short attention spans, lack of respect for human beings, narcissism, and hatred masked by "tolerance" widespread in our schools.


Carol   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ann is the only one the makes any sense on here


Samantha S   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Hi Ann, I'm from Iowa and was amazed that gay marriage was legalized in our conservative state before other ones like New York, etc. Why did you think this happened?


Don Kingsley   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Ann Coulter represents about 10% of this country. She is so far right that there is no credibility to her. Why does anyone give her air time? There are so many other conservatives who represent the true conservative philosophy of Barry Goldwater who would be much more interesting and have a better informed view of the current state of the US that I would like to hear from e.g. Dennis Prager.


Joseph Cohen   May 1st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Still this is the best country of the world!


pat s   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

JOY, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN HANDLE ANN COULTER. WHAT A FUNNY INTERVIEW!

YOU GO GIRL!!!!

THANKS...WE LOVE YOU.

PASQUALE


Rick   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Joy is so hateful - Let Ann talk....


Drew Van Wormer   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Ann Coulter is the most anti-American person in this country. Maybe we should consider her a terrorist.


Linda Casaldi   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I"ve actually listened to Ann Coulter during the past year+ and I find that I often agree with her. Give her a chance, Joy..open your mind!


Mr. Kim Kerrigan   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I would like to know where Ann Coulter got her values about people and their beliefs, and why doesn't she believe that America's beauty doesn't lie in its many philosophies, attitudes, and values. Most of all, I want to know why she is so insensitive to the people who have little voice in what happens to them in America.


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

ann doesnt really understand the true fundamentals of her own faith, thats why she cant make sense.


kevin   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

this show is rly funny how u think but ur all wrong and u shld tlk about important topics


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Jo Ann May 1st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Someone should ask Obama and his supporters if their children were being held hostage and there was someone suspected of knowing where they were what would they do to get the info out if none of their “accepted” tactics worked?

You asked and I will answer...

I would lock the SOB in a deep dark hole and go find my daughter. If I found that my daughter was harmed in any way, I would visit that harm on the perpetrators tenfold, but I would make sure that I did so through the legal justice system so that I would not committ the same callous crimes that that twisted (*&^& did.

It's called being the better person... you know that thing jesus would do... unless he were christian.


Jason in Buffalo   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Anne, hate is not a political position!


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Ann says what others wish they had the guts to say


Cheri   May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

"What bothered you about Biden?" – What?!!!?!?!?!?!


Lynda   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Ann, really, tell the truth, you cannot be a fan of Palin. Come on, fess up, really? You think she is intelligent? Really?


Marc   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I guess, ANYONE of us could me very insulting comments and make it to the news or on TV like Ann. in fact, really... what does the person offer or contribute ??


Laura Bradford   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

If I agree to be waterboarded, will the Democrats finally stop it and let the Terrorists be questioned? I am a 38 year old stay at home mother of four young children. I would rather know my childrens future is safe, than if the Terrorists were made uncomfortable! Let's end this issue!


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Jon May 1st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Ann, why do you have an Adams Apple?

Because she swallowed a republican.


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Joy, let your guests answer their questions.


Susan   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Joy, if you were this objective on The View, maybe I could tolerate watching it!


paul   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

The truth hurts and that is why weak, deluded people resent Ann.


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

OH PLZ...Joe Biden just gave hisc honest straight up opinion, who can't respect that?


Theresa   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Ann Coulter you are brilliant! You say what every conservative wants to say but are afraid to say in public for fear of being attacked! You are my hero!


Josh   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Is it true that Baxtar is making the vaccine? After they weponized the avian flu vaccine.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Ann, rub your fingers thru your hair one more time..... oh you are just pushing on your brain trying to make it work... the right side of course


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

You go ann your the best!!!


DAVD WINFREY   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

COLTER SPEAKS THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!


Nick   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

You know what is refreshing about Ann Coulatuer. She doesn't look like a republican but has the brains of a democrat. I say Ann should be the republican leader. Forget Limbaugh. Ann all the way!


Jeff   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Forget Levi Johnston...Anne should sut up & go home.


Al from North Carolina   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Ann is showing how intelligent she is, able to respond and absolutely destroy all of Joy's snide remarks and innuendos.
She ia an amazingly fearless woman.
Ann for PRESIDENT and Newt for Vice President !!!!


Sue Dosch   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Ann is brilliant and right on, but people don't want to listen to the truth.


Anne   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Ann.....
Why do you constantly "Adjust" your hair? Perhaps a haircut would help, or do you hope and like people paying more attention to you, because of it?


Diane   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Ann what's wrong with liberty? Why do you hate so? Liberals are for liberty too!


ceymore   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Anne Coulture – I don’t believe you. I don’t believe you support Sarah Palin I do believe that you attempt to show support out of embarrassment that your republican party really picked her... you are just unbelievable.. Almost as bad as Elisabeth Hasselback.


Donna Macchia   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Hello Joy & Ann,

First off, I would like to extend my sympathy+ in the passing of your mom. As an ovarian cancer survivor I know tjust how hard a battle she fought. .

Question/Comment: I agree with your views and admire how you stand up for your beliefs, especially in todays social climate, but don't you think you would make a greater impact if you took a softer, more diplomatic approach.

Continued luck and success


WR   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Joy has met her match! Go get her Anne!!!


frank   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

why on this blog, do they only show negitive comments, on the air, about ann,


Kevin in Valley Cottage   May 1st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Why is Ann Coulter even being interviewed?


Rodney   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann, your tongue is getting in the way again.


gloria   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann, you are my hero........you actually say what ALOT of us think


Marie Alicata   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Why does everyone try to "out talk" Ann. They ask questions and aren't polite enough to "listen."


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

RNC doesn't like Biden, he gives from the gut, HONEST answers


martha wooten   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann, Accept that America's majority of VOTERS have spoken. You are fortunate ,as an American(?), to be able to spew your venom on national TV. Try being a part of the solution, not a" horesefly on the wedding cake", to paraphrase Lady-Byrd Johnson.


toni   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann you are the perfect example of brains and beauty!


ray   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

sad.very sad. it does our country no good to be so divided. everything seems to be so binary. bush versus obmana for example. this is so very distorted as it appeals to be the extreme elements of both and leaves the vast majority of us out of the public debate which is most of us!

CNN is just as obviously liberal as Fox is centrist proving everyday sadly the press is irrelevant.


Carol   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann is great! Why aren't you putting any positive comments up?


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ann Coulter just needs to keep her mouth shut and get over herself!!! She has no idea of what she says....


Sharon   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Joy, thanks so much for asking Ann the hard questions and making sure that she answers them! She is usually allowed to get away without answering questions and allowed to talk all around a subject. She is really not that smart. One could put Ann and Sara Palin a sack, shake it real hard, and they would both come out at the same time.


Daemien   May 1st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

We need more people like ann who speak thier mind and put it out there. we are so cautious about what everyone thinks we get off track of the real subject. Human rights and liberals take things to far and make to big a deal out of things. Ann puts it out there that its not such a big deal everyone makes it out to be.


MiamiFrank   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

thanks Ann for being so strong to bring truth to this network! please, WAKE-UP AMERICA!


Jeannette   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Ann, you're great ... keep up your great work. I'm so glad CNN is having you on; it balances the "leftist" views that are so prevalent!


Andrea Jamison   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Ann,
Thanks for fighting the conservative fight.


Kait from Canada   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I am curious to know what Ann thinks of Michelle Obama, and what kind of impact she is making on this generation of women?


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Why do people keep giving this insane circus freak a microphone??


Christian   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

The problem with Ann is that she refuses to acknowledge that the other side has a point.


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

LOL! Love it! "being around those girls makes me feel pretty." HA!

Agreed, on the swine flu. Why make a big deal over a 150 people out of 300-400million in the States?


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Ann is right on! why is CNN only publishing the negative comments?


Navi   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I wonder – if Ann had grown up poor and black if she would still spout her hatred on the airways and through her hate books?


Jonathan   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

As completely offensive as Ann Coulter is, she is a shining example of freedom of speech rights in our nation. I'm certainly glad that she is on the Republican side.


Harsh Mangal   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

It's NOT about you, Ann. It's what's best for people. How hard is that to comprehend?!


Josh   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

What is Baxtars roll in the new Vaccine?


CeCe DiMatteo   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I like Ann as a writer of novels but who appointed her as any kind of expert on national politics.....and who cares what she thinks?


Ron Lord   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I'm very surprised CNN has the courage to have someone with an opposing view to the White House on Larry King Live. I’m sick of the never ending praise that the press bestows on such a fraudulent president. How can so many people be such lemmings?


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Its sad that only democrats can speak their mind


Marc in Lauderdale   May 1st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I can't believe this evil elitist, Ann Coulter gets so much air time. Why do shows on CNN etc.... even have her on? I guess they want her to do something controversial so that their own show makes the news. Other than that, Ann offers nothing of a contribution to our society, our country or our future


Mike (Louisville, KY)   May 1st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Ann Coulter,
For a woman who APPEARS to be intelligent, is actually so arrogant and beyond stupid! Thanks for wasting Larry King viewers precious time!


Bobby   May 1st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Why were only negative comments aired on the show? There were a couple of positive ones that CNN didn't bother showing.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Ann is awesome! The best guest you could have chosen.


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Republicans speak their minds too, but democrats are too busy whining to listen.


Gary   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Why is this worthless person on tv?"


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Sadder still that republicans can't speak with their minds


Rick   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Liberals are one of the biggest threat this country faces - trying to decide what we all should think and do.


Marie MD   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Miss California was being groomed to be the next Miss USA (including the pageant committeepaying for her breast implants) until she opened her mouth and now she is the republicans ugly mouth piece. She soundslike miss teen usa "the Iraq". Her quote "my country". Really?


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

miamiFrank? You call the last 8 yrs, TRUTH?


Adri   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Love Joy Behar! RE: Ann Coulter...she needs to check her ego... she actually sounds more ridiculous than smart and educated...


April   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

I bet if we waterboarded Ann Coulter, we could make her say "I love Barack Obama!"


Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Why not come out about adultry to protect marriage instead of being against 2 people who love each other?


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Ann-Keep doing what you do! You keep these liberals on the run with your flawless logic and you keep conservatives in stitiches with your dead on opinions. And by the way–all of you bashing Ann.Study some history! Hitler was closer to a liberal socialist than anything else. The opposite of a Nazi is a conservative


John Vargo   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Good job, Ann! Usually your current host shouts down and brow beats a guest she disagrres with


Adam   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Ann Coulter claims herself as a conservative. Why not she work together with muslim conservatives, Jews conservatives, Budhist conservatives, Hindu conservatives etc. to promote conservatism
in family values, spiritual values, pro-life values, moral values,
humanity values, fairness values etc. instead of looking other
religions are enemies. It would be so wonderful if conservatives from all conservative religions work together in peace with no hate and prejudice. What I mean with conservatives is not extremist or even terrorists. Off course theologically religion are enemies to each other, but we can put that in box.


Greg   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Ann is terrific. Liberals need to get a sense of humor. Keep up the good work Ann


Gary   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

If I want gop hate speak I will watch faux news...BOOT HER!!!


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

James in Idaho, What if you could not find your daughter without this infor and there was a time limit, then what? Let your daughter die so that you don't step on this guy's rights?"


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Didn't the democrats want to "stop the hate"? I guess only if you don't agree with them...


Ky Colonel   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Whoa! Hats off to CNN for inviting someone who is not on its liberal wave length. Ann Coulter is a smart, innovative thinker who does not talk BS. Even Joy did well with her tonight and i commend them both for an excellent program. Ann, thanks for representing us conservatives in a professional manner.


gloria   May 1st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

saw Danny Gans on broadway years ago......he was one of ,if not THE greatest impressionist i have ever....godspeed Danny


Rodney   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Same sex, same problems. It is what it is.


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

James, most Republicans DO speak their minds. I am a republican, do my research. Just because a person does not agree with you, doesn't give you the right to attack their intelligence.


Andrea Jamison   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

The problem with Larry King viewers is that they live their lives with blinders on and can never see or even respect another's point of view, i.e., Obama is against gay marriage, but Ms. California gets cursed out and villified by the liberals for the same opinion.
Jamison


Kate   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I would love to have Ann Coulter dolls for my kids vs. Barbie. She's a great role model.


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

this was an underhanded stint by Perez Hilton, gays need to be really ashamed at his tactics.


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Shanna get a life!!!


jean watt   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Is ;Ann Coulter male or or female? Does she enjoy male relationships? Does she practice birth control or is she barren? Is she married? Does she have children? How old is she?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I'm suprised you can hear all the whing from the democrats over the cacophanous whining from the republicans... oh, wait, that's just the echo coming from the back of so many democratic heads


Dietrich   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Carrie, what is opposite marriage... Miss Articulate?


BoPeep   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Anytime someone has to say "no offense to anyone" it usually means they just offended alot of people.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Most Americans agree with Miss California. She is being discriminated against!


Ben   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

JOY/ANN /missCA
Don't you think congress and senate should LISTEN to the people?
OR do you think they are right and can handle everything without input?

Do you think our opinions count? Miss CA had her own opion and I am a Gay Male and dont agree with the Gay Queens...


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Hah, show me an intelligent republican first


Georgia   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Why give people like her a voice!


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

I don't like Moakler, but I agree with what she said: we have the right to our opinion.


Carmen   May 1st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Ann Coulter is definitely wacko. As wacko as her ideal woman Sarah Palin. Both of them are sickening and make me ashamed to be a woman.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Glad we have a spokeswoman for 'opposite marriage' now. Miss CA, need a map?


Jeffery   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Ann is everything we voted against last November. Please, Ann, move to Alaska with your friend Sarah, take George, Dick, Donald and Rush with you. There, contemplate your navels while you stare at Russia


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

BoPeep... agreed


Shelley   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

It's fine to state your opinion about gay marriage but it's another thing to impose your opinion on others through the legal system.


LONGCAT / ANON   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

gays have no rights to get marred its a sick joke DO U WANT A MARRAGE BETWEEN A GUY AND A GUY OR A MAN AND A WOMAN


frank   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

kEEP GIVING YOUR DUMB HONEST ANSWERS, IT HELPS THERNC


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Free speech: "only when it is what Perez wants"


Dipen   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

She is 100% right to express her feeling without being politically correct. However, there is no reason for government to control or stop legal unions because religions support union between opposite sex.


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Did Behar say Obama was "perfect?" Ha! Far from it. The only reason they don't joke about him is because they don't want to be labeled as racists.

There are plenty of jokes they could make about his stupidity. Let's start with his 57 states comment, maybe he was thinking of Heinz 57 sauce, he thinks the Great Lakes are in Oregon, he thinks PA is in the midwest, he thinks Austrian is a language, I could go on, but I think you get the picture.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

What does the Bible say about breast implants??


Daemien   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

This nation was made with christianity in mind thus one nation under god on our money and in the constitution. Gay marriage goes against christianity thus going against the basis this country was founded


Scot   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Who was even the winner of the pagent


MiamiFrank   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Molly, i agree with your comment about Joy...


muriel schnierow   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Dear larry,Joy,et al:
Has it ever occurred to you that thetroublewith anncoulter asidefrom her annoying habit of playing with her golden locks is that she is BORING??
Yes Annthat is right .After a few minutes i doze off. You are the right wing's Ambien.The end!!!!!!!!!!!


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

I love Baldwin boy


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Intelligent Republicans: Regan, G. Gordon Liddy, Fred Thompson, Sen. Bill Frist, Bobby Jindal.
Now show me an intelligent Democrat.


Drew Van Wormer   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Why is stephen baldwin giving his opinion on anything. Who cares LOL


Dipen   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

She is 100% right to express her feeling without being politically correct. However, there is no reason for government to control or stop legal unions because religions only support union between opposite sex.


April   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

If there is true separation of Church and State, as there should be, are there any real arguments (other than religious) against gay marriage? Not everyone in America is Christian!


Max   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

"No offense" Yes offense. You are denying people a basic people human right


Arnold   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Hazing is just as bad as torture especially when young kids are dying every year from ignorant young college students trying to fit into society and gain friends by following these ignorant fraternity ways. So when you say torture is like hazing neither one is good and should both be banned. Hazing is a real issue here in the US and should be looked at as a serious crime and not be taken lightly.


DAVD WINFREY   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

FOR ONCE CALIFORNIA HAS A REPRESENATIVE THAT SPEAKS WITH HER HEART NOT A TELEPROMPTER!


James   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

The same lame excuses were used in Canada.
Stop tredding on my rights Baldwin!!!
Jesus...protect me from your followers


Eric Troutt   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Prejean is a victim of political correctness gone wild


Laura, Dallas   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

I'm more opposed to their having paid for Breast Implants than her personal position on gay marriage – You tell them Stephen!


Mark C   May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

God did NOT write the Bible!


Marie MD   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Doesn't God klove all his children? Miss CA lost because she is as fake as those breast of hers.


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

It's funny to me when republicans get slammed for their worn out policies they get so agressive and find BS to say.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

And Frank, the RNC needs all the help it can get


paul   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Prejean is being punished for being honest. This is the new America?


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

WHo is SHanna moakler again oh yeah we dont care!!!


Delilah   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

You'd think she'd know better than to say that considering she's dealing with the beauty industry.


Seamus   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Stephen!Do we not have seperation of church and state? Marraige is a made up concept and therefore can be adjusted accordingly to fit society.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Daemien May 1st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

This nation was made with christianity in mind thus one nation under god on our money and in the constitution. Gay marriage goes against christianity thus going against the basis this country was founded

Worng. This nation was founded on the principles of equality. Everythign else is just fluff.


Eric Troutt   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

being miss california does not mean a labotomy of your opinions


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Free speech is the right to offend however you want!!


Alleigh   May 1st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

The bible was not written by God – the only words in the bible directly attributed as the word of God are the ten commandments.


Siobhan Ogilvie   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

I would love to call in. I went to HS with Stephen – knew him well and attended a gay wedding with him back in early 80s where we were both participants in ceremony!! He an usher – me a flower girl. He needs to be reminded.


Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

No one is telling you not to get married why deny others?


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Shana, your ship has come in.....now learn to talk.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

To repeat...

Marriage was always more encompassing than the right understood it as. All the “referendums” these ignoramouses are screaming about are really just discrimination being written into law; like the nazi party did in Germany during the third Reich.

Rocks, trees and dogs cannot say the words “I do” and dont’ and can’t understand the implications behind it. Children cannot understand the implications behind “I love you” much less “I do”, and are not mature and developed enough. Your sister may be hot, and your brother may look good in them tight jeans, but it’s the other genes that you need to worry about. As well, there is a conflict of interest between the equal protection clause in the consitution and all of these cases. Poligamy is probably one of the best examples of a “Marriage” that presents that conflict of interest in that it sets the head of household in a position of power and undue influence among it’s members.

Two mature adults whether man man, woman man, woman woman, who are capable of understanding the responsibility and implications of “I do” and who have committed no crime and have no intention of committing any crime by their unselfish act of wanting confirmation and affirmation of their equality bear no threat to the traditional family or the “Sanctity of Marriage”.

In fact, Gay couples do not add to the level of unwanted pregnancies in that they cannot produce amongst themselves, and yet they pay into this privilege every tax season and have since the beginning of our nation, they may help ease the burden on the foster care system by adopting these children heterosexual couples, for whatever reason have given up.


Niko   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

God did not write the bible; man wrote the bible!!!


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin is giving his opinion because he hasn't had a movie project in 10 years.


Marc in Lauderdale   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

our country says... "all me are created equal" "right to live liberty and pursuit of happiness".. Marriage is a religious thing... you can't talk about the BIBLE in government.. you talk about the Bible in your church... so if you believe in ONLY what the bible says.. the how can you 'select' the things in it you want to live by? Divorce is against the bible.. "what God has joined, let no man divide".. so then, let's out law divorce? so then, you right freaks... show us your list.. Who else is not entitled to the 'rights' you determine?? Non christians? Blacks? women? gays? who all is on your list of those that are not equal???


Mitzy   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Let the gays be married, just don't ask God to recognize it.


Jeff weissbuch   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

I"m totatly tired of this issue.


John   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

From viewing her pictures and her beauty, I can't imagine that Carrie did not win the Miss USA contest. Her politics must have hurt the decision.


Daniel Anya   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

gay people has same mind set like radical islam. They never condone any form of oposition.


Jason in Buffalo   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Why isn't there anyone gay on the panel?


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

marriage is between a Man and a women!!!


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Ghandi: "I like Christ. I like Christians. I don't understand why Christians aren't more like Christ."


Daemien   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

james. the country was founded with god in mind. thus that is why it is on our money and in the constitution, if it was not then explain to me why we even have god put on our money and in our constitution.


Glenda   May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

I admire Ann Coulter. She is the most honest and down to earth woman in the news media today. I would like to ask Joy and Ann on their feelings of how they feel about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama in the presidential office when he can't prove that he is an american born citizen.... since he was born OUTSIDE the USA. The constitution states that ONLY "American" born people can hold the presidential office.

Thank you!


Gloria Zieour   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

I wholeheartedly agree with Meghan McCain. Coulter is a snake with satannical eyes! Meghan is the ONLY Republican who makes any sense. (I'm not young nor am I a member of the GOP)


Nick   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Gay marriage doesn't impact me so I don't care. Thats my view.


Mark C   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

As someone who judges pageants, I would have scored her low also. Her answer, while her opinion, was BADLY stated!


Eric Troutt   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Shanna Moekler is a washed up has been 15 minutes expired!


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Marriage has what anymore? 48% success rate. All these anti-gay marriage people are fighting for something with an F grade.


Wendy   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Hooray for Miss CA for standing by her faith and beliefs. Go Girl!


Eric   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Lets face it when you can't visit your partner in the hospital or have joint rights equal to those married is just plain wrong.


Tyrone   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

It is sad to hear Stephen Baldwin spouting ignorance. God did not write the bible. It was written by inspired followers.


Todd   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Did Baldwin really just say "The Bible was written by God."??? It is a book written by men. He isn't the best one to be arguing this point.


Lola   May 1st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

The majority of Americans believe the same as Miss CA, including the current President.


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

James, if you're wanting to see aggressive, keep it up. Or better yet, drive to Nashville (yes, I'm also a fellow Tennessean) and I'll give you my opinion in person. You have not begun to see aggressive and I'm ending my part of our little debate here.


Jade   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Gay women and men should be able to do whatever they want; no one is hurting you if they do; get over your selves.


Lynda Dlyndadusich@yahoo.com   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

People need to realize that their rights end when they infringe on the rights of others. I am heterosexual. If two gays marry this does not endanger my marriage. I say equal rights for ALL!


LONGCAT / ANON   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

BUT ANN GB2 school and stop speaking rep retardisum you make me want to scoop out my eyes and eat them


philborg   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Baldwin thinks the creator of the universe wrote the bible, hahahah, what a moron. The U.S. isn't a christian country anyway, you can't impost your religious beliefs on others.


frank   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

CARMER GO WATCH OHPRA, THEY DONT COME ANY DUMBER!


dunnelawoffices   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Dear Shana,

I disagree with Miss CA but I will fight to protect her right to speak her mind freely in this great Country.

Shana, please learn to agree to disagree without publicly railroading Ms. CA for her honest and sincere belief.


jim giles   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I think Ann Coulter is very entertaining. I am a solid member of the democratic party, and I think with every appearance, interview, etc..she sends a few other voters over to our side. In some ways, thru their vitriol, the Ann Coulters, Shaun Hannity's, etc..show everyday folk just how extreme the members of the Republican Party with "influence" are. So keep it comin ya'll and this Democrat thanks you for all you do for my party!


Drew Van Wormer   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

i guess he has had a lot of free time to Read the Bible. Yeah I'm sure that is what he was doing. Tell em what for stephen! You are the man! Kind of.


Cheri   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Basically, don't believe anything that contradicts popular culture if you want to hold a position anywhere. How can people even argue against this woman's said beliefs? What happened to free speech? Again, this scares me... It is sickening that people can't say whatever they believe without being ripped to shreds. Persecution is with words now. What is coming next? I am not joking and am not some weird, paranoid person. Just really wondering about so many people who have eyes, but do not see.


Ray   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Why has there not been a single state where the vote was put to the people in favor of gay marriage?


Tiffany M.   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

For those 'quoting' the Bible, have you considered learning the part about loving thy neighbor as you would have them love you? What about the part thou shall not judge.. what about 'vengence is mine said the Lord'???? What about ALL sins are created equal... any of that ring a bell????


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Actually Tony the quote goes: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.


Melih Ertekin   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I believe that marriage is the union of two adults madly in love with each other. Love knows no gender, age, race, or creed. Who are we to decide who is "allowed" to get married and spend their life with somebody they love?


P   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Why is Stephen Baldwin's hairstyle and suits looking more and more like a televangelist?


richard   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin comments that the bible was written by God, I think you'll find that it was written by mere mortals


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

So its okay to judge her, but she can't judge others? Hypocritical!


Ray S   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Gay marriage is an abomination.


cris   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Stephen, the bible is a collection of chosen and interpreted teachings.It was not written by God, it was written by man


Micheal, California   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

How can Steven Baldwin appose gay marriage or criticize gays when he himself acted in a movies called "Threesome" with Laura Flynn Boyle where his character clearly engaged in a homosexual relationship.


Dean Schultz   May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I think that my parents telling me that they will die if I even date a guy (even though I am gay) is absolutely a million times worse than someone just being told that their view is wrong. I have to give up my life for my parents.


Quynn Martin   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Mr Perez Hilton used this contest as a way to advance his agenda: Gay Marriage.


Joshua Geddings   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I am glad Miss California spoke her mind. She was asked her opinion and gave it. How can your guest say she isn't representing California when the majority of voters in California opposed gay marriage in the last election? Way to go Miss California.


David Brenchley   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I concur 100 % with what Steven testified. Homosexuallity is abhorent to God. Enyone who would say the bible is self interpitive on this topic obviously has not read it. I pray God blesses Stevens boldness !!


Victor   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

It's interesting hearing Baldwin talking about feeling persecuted. Ask any gay man or woman about how they feel everyday. Also,. God did not write the Bible, a human did.


Nicholas   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Married have to be , men and woman.............no ofense to any body


Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

We all agree to disagree. I want to get married!


Chris   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Aside from Carries’ stance on same-sex marriage, she’s more courageous then those who malign her.


Annette   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

WHY WAS SHE GIVEN THE QUESTION IF GAY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYONE ELSE'S OPINION BUT THEIR OWN. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GAY MARRAIGE AND I HAVE THAT RIGHT PEREZ HILTON. HOW ARE WE TO PROCREATE IF THE SAME SEX GETS MARRIED. DIVORCE IS HARD ENOUGH ON KIDS BUT THEN TO HAVE GAY PARENTS THAT IS EVEN WORSE.


Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Same sex marriage is the civil rights issue of our generation. The smart legislators are behind it. The zealots on the right need to go away and realize that this has NO bearing on their opposite sex marriage!


Spencer Fink   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

It shouldn't be up to the government to decided whether gay marriage should be legal. God loves all people


Sonja   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I do not believe in gay marriage and do believe in the constitutional right to be able to say that without being persacuted.


Anant   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

No one is forcing churches to perform gay marriages. Marriage as defined by the state is a legal contract and anyone who chooses to participate in such a contract – gay or straight, should be allowed to. By the way - all the homophobes and bigots out there who are afraid of the sanctity of their "religious" marriage to be in jeopardy should rally for the outlaw of divorce... that's a bigger threat !


Carol Moser   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Stephen is right about the Bible, and about being persecuted for stating his opinion. What ever happened to freedom of speech?


VICTOR MILLER   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think that all people can have interests in anyone. you know sometimes you dont always have to believe people who are against gay marriage.


glenn   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Ann , finally some sanity to this station! Set them strait before they destroy this country.


Tehran in TN   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I stop listening to Miss California when she said in America we have the right to choose Straight or Gay marriage. Duh thats the problem, Gays doesn't have the right. When I hear her my mouth dropped. She have the right to disagree, but its how you say it. She tried to be safe with her answer instead of being direct. She started off with wrong info. Gays doesn't have the right to choose.


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Who cares what perez hilton says anyway who is he? I'm not agianst gays but, he's an idiot.


Oscar   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Billy Baldwin feel persecuted because he believes in the bible
and in traditional marriage?? First of all, who cares
what this C-lister thinks and second of all I'm sure Billy Baldwin
an alleged Hollywood-bad-boy has done quite a few things
that go against the teachings of the bible.


Rick   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Why do Liberals seem to resort to personal attacks - it is obvious they HATE anyone who doesn't agree with them but why nasty personal comments??


Tyler, Chicago   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Gay marriage is not a threat to anyone's marriage but those people that are allready havign troubles in their relationship.


Erik   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

That poor, dumb girl is being used by the far-right to promote their agenda of discrimination.


Tre'   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

WHO CARES?????


miss d   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I don't think A.C. understands what Democracy and Freedom mean. She is so opinionated and self serving she once told Donnie Deutch that the world would be a better place without Jews. She is one sick lady and should be banned from TV. Oh! that would be endorsing her own rigid policy, but maybe we would be better off, if she just GREW UP.
Words like Tolerant, Moderate, Real, etc. don't fit the lives of most Republicans and maybe for that we are lucky. It is only because of the rigidity and favoritism of the last 8 years that the country was open enough to accept Obama for President and for that I thank all those intolerant Republicans including you, A.C.


Lisa "Mo" Lewiston Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Why do you want to push straight marriage on people that you wish did not push gay marriage off on you? If you do not want gays to push their life style on you then do not force us to live by your STRAIGHT RULES!!


alphonzo miller   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Would like to to know what Bible the reverend is reading from?????


Beth   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think this issue is so inflammatory by those who want to use the Bible as a weapon. It was never intended to be that and, as stated on the program, there are many different interpretations. I believe gay people are born that way and we need to respect them with all of the rights everyone else enjoys, including marriage.


DeeAnna   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

It's just the signs of the times we are living in, when God is being mocked and all who follow Him are as well. Gay marriage is an abomination to God and is a sin.


Dianna Medea   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Re: gay marriage
To each, his/her own.
Why are Americans so intolerant?


Tyrone   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Ann Coulter demonstrates hatred and ignorance


Ruth A.   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Gay marriage is totally wrong and I'm sick of this being pushed in my face.


Vladimir Smirnov   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

A marriage should be between a man and a woman. That is what the Bible says and that is what I believe in.


Jamila   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Miss Ca is right, gay marriage is wrong!


Angela   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I believe Gay marriage would be beneficial to our society!


Terri   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Miss California should go about the business of being Miss California instead of speaking out on a subject she knows little about.
Of course she feels that way, she's straight!


Renee   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

God said "be fruitful and multiply". How can a gay couple do that?


Phoebe   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I've got nothing against same-sex marriage. Let's face it, with het marriage divorce rates hovering at around 60%, same sex couples can't screw it up any worse that it already is...

BTW, I was born and raised in Iowa, married at age 18 and we have been together 30 years. I'm proud of my home state's forward thinking attitude towards equal rights for all citizens.


Karen   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Ann Couler...

Is SKAG a curse word? LOL


Dennis in Columbus, Ohio   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I can't believe Steven Baldwin's comments on gay marriage! His people's beliefs deny my people their societal rights. My people's beliefs denies nobody their rights. It's really that simple – I'm certain Jesus would agree.


Tatjana McCart   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

God did not write the bible. Scribes years after events in the bible had taken place wrote the bible.

Marriage should be between two adults who love one another. The gender should not matter. Heterosexual couples have not made a good example of marriage thus far so how could this ruin marriage? this is discrimination.


vicki vaughn   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

We should get away from calling this MARRIAGE. This is about equal rights for couples who are living together in a committed relationship and want the same/equal rights as any other straight couple has. Federal and state benefits should NOT be soely for straight couples. That is discrimination.


Randi Reitan   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I have a beloved gay son. I want for him what has been so precious to me ... my marriage and my family. I don't understand why people would want to deny someone what has been so precious to them.


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

the thing you poeple need to undestand is that people have different views and its called free speech but we dont have to demonize this poor lady!!!


Scot   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

The Republican party is looking young and beautiful.


Kenny Brown   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

This comment is for Stephen Baldwin. You claim the people with the belief of "traditional' marriage are under persecution? This seems to be the pot calling the kettle black. For, well really ever, the homosexual lifestyle has been persecuted by the opposing view point, and have been constantly denied their rights. For example, with marriage.


Dennis   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Miss California and Mr Baldwin need to remember that in the United States there is a separation of church and state. The Bible or any other religion has nothing to do with this issue. Miss California is entitled to her opinion, but should not state it while pretending to represent all of California. She should step down, as there is no place for this kind of hatred. She is not a Christian with that hate.
They certainly take my money for the state and all the breeders, but will not make me a full citizen.


Brian   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think the judges and the Miss America pagent people should offer an appoligy. to Ms.California.If they don't want their contestants to say what they think they should ask the old what do you think of world peace question and leave the national debates out of the contest.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I am an intelligent republican


J.R.   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

What everyone seems to forget is that there is such a thing as civil marriage. Even if married in a church, said marriage must be legally registered. I do not believe that any church should be forced to marry anyone they do not want to marry; however, I do not believe that the civil government has the right to offer all rights to some, and less or none to others.

This debate should not be religious; it is about civil rights and access to the same privileges.


Thomas   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

60% of same sex married couples end in divorce – what makes people think that they have it right or should set who should be married – that track record is horrible to judge who or who not should be married.


Page Taylor   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Ms California should be doing her duties as Ms California and commit her time to the platform (Special Olympics) that she chose to work on. She can spend time after her reign working on her political agenda. She does have freedom to speak, but she needs to complete her obligations of her title first.


avi   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think gay marriage is a good way to control global population.


Rick   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Why do people against gays and lesbians always quote the same excerpt from the Bible. I wonder how many other things in the Bible they ignore on a daily basis because it doesn't fit in their own lives. Talk about hypocrisy.


Josh   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

This whole thing is being dragged on way to long.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Intelligent Republicans: Regan
Iran Contra

, G. Gordon Liddy,
Crook and liar

Fred Thompson,
Oblivious womanizer

Sen. Bill Frist,
Voted for the invasion of Iraq

Bobby Jindal.
Turned down money that would help Katrina victims

Once again... show me an "inteligent" republican


Michael Lemaster   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I was born an American citizen on May 24, 1984. I cannot marry the man that I love because I also happen to be a man. I spent many years hoping to end my life because I thought I would never find happiness as a gay man. What kind of god would create and endorse such a world?

The laws many conservatives who oppose gay rights and gay people (because they do oppose gay people when they oppose our rights) are listening to laws created by men, whether they choose to accept that fact or not.

I'm sorry this is the case.


raffaele   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

GAY MARRIAGE ABOMINATION


Jim Allen   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

You've got to be kidding! This is a beauty pageant contestant, not the US Senate!

The comment she made should haunt all of California. Her right to speak her mind, but we are making too big an issue out of this. Go out and make change. "Hope will never be silent!" – Harvey Milk

jca – san diego


Jennie Riley   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Thankfully, someone had the courage to stand up for us in California! And she is only 21! She has more courage than most pastors.


Kaitlyn   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Not every American has the same religion. Not every American believes in the same bible. Marriage is not a religious entity. Non-religious people get married too. One cannot impose his/her religion on everybody else. If you are against marriage between the same sex because of your religion, enforce it within your own church, not within the entire country.


Mark   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin has no idea what persecution is. Be a gay person and you will find out.


Stephanie   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

It frustrates me that so much energy is put into the judgment of who people love when there are so many bigger issues that need to be resovled. God is the judge so let him judge and worry about things that need our immediate attention such as war, the economy, and the environment.


Benjamin   May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

This is a debate no side will win. It has been fought for years. The final judge is God. When your relationship with him is right, you will know what is right.


A-Jay   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I'm not for gay marrige at all, but I also see that this Maggie is trying to push here agenda too.


Christina Acors   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Miss California was voted for by Californians and they chose her to represent them, So what is the big deal. She represented them well and did not waiver. They should not have made her Miss California if they di not want someone with MORALS!


Lauren Giaccone   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Mr. Baldwin is correct about one thing and that is that God is the judge. We ourselves cannot be the judge. As the Bible says, "Judge not lest ye be judged." The Bible does not condemn same sex relationships, if you read Leviticus carefully, it condemns pagan sex rituals in temples involving men and boys. God Bless.


nichole   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

How can it be ignored that Ms California stumbled over her answer and used the term "opposite marriage"-maybe her opinion didn't "cost her the crown", maybe her elementary answer prevented her from winning the crown!


Ian Reynolds   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Hey Hollywood genius, Billy Baldwin, GOD did not write the bible, humans did. They may have written his words but that is where faith comes into the discussion. GOD did not write the bible that is a fact.


Barbara   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

It is SICK!!! plain and simple....


John Clifford   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Mr. Baldwin is incorrect. Man wrote the Bible (s) based on so called revelations. What about homosexuality in the animal kingdom?


jeffrey   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

To Stephen, GOD did NOT write the bible...people did, hundreds of years after Christ died....it was a different world.


Chris J   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

gay marriage is putting the great america to shame


Flora Avery Graham   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I agree with Mr. Baldwin, persons who believe in the sayings of word of God are being persecuted and will be if he/she speaks out against gay marriage. In this country now, christians are not allowed to voice our opinions in that we may offend others but others are not affected when they offend christians.


Chanel   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Banning gay marriage is discrimination. Period.


kenn   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Steven Baldwin? Seriously.


dhill   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

marriage should be between a man and a woman.


Shannon   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Helloooo. California voted NO for gay marriage. Remember?


Harmony   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

What trauma has Ann faced in her life to make her so angry, uncompassionate, and jaded?


Kenny   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Why is Ann Coulter considered an authroity on anything...must less EVERYTHING? She is an opionated broad who has written books, based on opionion only. If the media would leave her alone, she would crawl under a rock somewhere and keep her mouth shut. She loves the attention. Who cares what she thinks?


Mona   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I believe that people are people.. and if they love each other
regardless of sex they should be allowed to get Married.

and in regard to God writing the bible..
Man wrote the bible..... and Man could also change the
bible...


Yariel   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

For far too long, gay people have sat calmly and asked to be counted as people with equal right when it is something guaranteed to every citizen of the United States. It took the outrage of Stonewall to bring the modern-day gay movement out. We have played the nice card for too many a year and now it's time to finally stand up and fight! No more Mr. Nice Gay


jan kirkconnell   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Ummm...Miss California didn't bring up the gay marriage issue–Perez Hilton did, so why is she getting hijacked because of giving an honest answer????


David   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Joy! come on where is your backbone? You handled this interview like it was a joke, and it is not. Very disappointing.


Karen Murphy   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

How would Mz. California feel if there was a law passed outlawing silocone implants??
Me, I have no feelings on the matter. It does not effect me or my lifestyle.
The point is, she and everyone else should stay the heck out of the private lives of law-biding adults. Period.


Scott the 18th chapter of the Book of REV   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

The fix for gay marriage;

Revelation 21:8


Liam   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Miss Prejean has the right to her opinion, whether we agree with it or not. Otherwise we end up prosecuting people for their thoughts and ideas, and we know where that leads.


Carmen A.   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Marriage should be between a man and a women. We are destructing ourselfs and our values! We have to learn to go back to basis !


Jamario   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I think Ms Prejan had every right to say what she said. We live in a country that you are free to believe what you want to believe. I dont understand how a religious group can say the bible says this the bible says that and because you believe that you expect everyone else to believe it as well. There are a lot of atheists in our country as well who dont believe in anything. So why the bible is being used to determine laws in states I dont get that. And furthermore, if two gay people want to get married why do people care so much? they arent moving in with you in your house. it doesnt affect anyones everyday life at all.


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Hey terri she was asked a question!!


Chet   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

This is suppose to be a Free country. Everyone should have the right to choose who they want to be married to. This is a legal issue not a moral issue. My God loves everyone as He is the one who created everyone.


Luu   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin's got it right ... 1Corinthians 6:9 ... Read it for yourself.


Barbara P   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I don't understand why all these anti gay marriage people feel that what someone else does in their own life affects them. If I marry a man it has no affect on their lives; the same is true if I marry a woman. How EXACTLY does same sex marriage detract from their lives? Their rights won't be taken away. It is just ridiculous. If people just stayed out of each others business the world would be a much better place!


Ishmael   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

"Gay Marriage" is an oxymoron. Only morons would give it serious consideration.


Laine Thompson   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Against gay marriage? Then don't marry someone of your same sex.


Andrea   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Why is the Bible used as a justification to ban gay marriage? What about Buddhists? Can gay Buddhists get married? Last time I checked, there was a separation of church and state in this country. If Bible beaters don't want gay marriage, don't have one, but don't prevent others from having equal rights.


Tom Froehlich   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Steven Baldwin says the Bible is against gay marriage, though Jesus himself never addressed the issue. Jesus did condemn, several times, divorce. How can Christians condone divorce and at the same time be against gay marriage. I wonder if Steven Baldwin has been divorced?


Brendon   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I don't agree with gay marriage and I do agree with Miss California because she was asked a question and gave a truthful answer so how can anyone be mad, its her own choice. You are going to tell her that the bible is wrong, well good look with that but every church going person should know that marriage is between a man and a woman not people of the same sex. Its her answer if you are upset by that then leave America its freedom of speech here!!!!


Kent Ruch   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

How could anyone who believes in the bible, new testament or old, ever think that Jesus would exclude anyone?


Donna Macchia   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Can you spell hippocrate and double standard???? It really pisses me off that all these people are crying foul and having a hissy fit just because Miss California didn't share their view point. How can those so-called "politically correct" individuals begrudge others the same freedoms they want?? Where is it written that you have to compromise your beliefs in order to win a pageant or anything else?? President Obama wasn't denied the White House because he was affiliated so closely with a racist pastor. C'mon, isn't freedom to do and think whatever they want exactly what these bleeding heart liberals want for themselves? We live in a society where a prayer in school is forbidden, but dispensing condoms isn't. Where killing an innocent baby is okay, but enforcing the death penalty draws cries and picketing. No, nothing much has changed, except the world is shifting toward evil and away from good. Now this I find offensive!


USMC68   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I don't have a problem with civil unions, but gay couples can't get "married". Is that short enough?


jmaes   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

God did not write the bible.I cant believe Balwin said that.King James version,what does that mean???


SteveC   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Gay marriage is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! It is her opinion too....end of story.


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Stephen –

Stick to something you really know something about. Persecution is not something I believe you know anything about. To believe that marriage is an exclusive club that gays cannot be a part of is NOT persecution Mr. BALDWIN.

Michael


L Lorenzo   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

"beleif in gay marriage" and the "right for gays to be allowed to get married" are two different questions... I personally don't believe in gay marriage (maybe because I'm not gay), but can someone explain why gays shouldn't be allowed to get married? I haven't heard any significant reasons why they should be allowed? "Life, Liberty, and the persuit of Happines..." Of course they should be allowed to get married!!! Maggie is a nutcase... Explain how two men or two women, who live on the other side of the country and want to get married, suppose to negatively effect me?


Connie   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Let God take care of it and stop trying to do his job


TJ   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

hey let Stephan Baldwin know that man wrote the bible, not God


Cathy   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Will all that is going on in the world; War, disease, hunger, abuse...do you really care if a woman marries another woman? I feel sorry for you if you put that above other issues


Babs   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Gay marriage should be allowed, for anyone!


Melissa   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Ann Coulter is right most of the time and is very well researched and smart. She just gets scrutinized for her views because she is very aggressive. As for gay marriage, people need to get over themselves and stop being bigots. Equal rights everyone! The country is not governed by the bible.


Matthew Petrella   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

When you get married, you are get your marriage certificate at a courthouse not a church, you receive legal rights not religious rights. If it is all about the Bible, then why is it not a problem when Hindu or Buddist couples marry?


Dennis Shipman   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Every major civilization that embrace alternative lifestyles in popular culture eventually collapsed... I do not care what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes but I do not want or have my children exposed to their behavior.


tony   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

i think the shows producers are partly to blame for all the controversy. the pageant is supposed to be and entertaining less than mindful show. allowing this type of political and controversial questions to be asked will simply drive people away from watching and donald trump will once again see his shows rating plummet and fail.


Kay   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Bible says Glutony is sin...Hey don't you lot of fat people in our country. why do you make a big deal about the gay marriage


KG   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Ms. CA was exactly right, and believe or NOT this is still what the majority of this country believes in. Funny how the media decided to focus on what Ms. CA said instead of how Perez Hilton attacked her simply because her opinion did not agree with his. We support traditional marriage between a man and a women.


casey   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

the way i see god made adam and eve NOT!!!!!! adam and STEVE!!!!!

thanks


Derek Collie   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I am tired of this gay marriage debate. I am a gay man who has been with my partner for nearly 20 years. If you don't want to marry a person of the same sex, then DON't. But, do not make your religion stand in the way of letting me love whom I want. It is my business! I don't go innto your churches and tell you how to live. NOW STOP coming iunto my life and tell me how I should live.


flo   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

This is about equal civil rights for all citizens and religion beliefs should have nothing to do with it.
All Americans should have the same rights, let the relgious zealots get over it.


alexander Armstrong   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Miss California regardless of the situation and the pressure stood for what she believed in. This is a right that we all share as Americans to freely express ourselves. It is encouraging and bold. For all to stand up for their belief.


Gay Mormon   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Yeah Gay and Mormon don't go together I KNOW. Just ask my mormon family who pretty much shunned me. Those on t.v. are being funny about how much good they do and yet are generalizing the gay community as being so hateful. Is it not okay for us to get upset when we can have equal rights?


David Goode   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Your one guest suggests that Miss California has a responsibility to represent the views of the people of that state. Since when does a beauty pageant become representative government. If she cannot speak her personal views,then what is the purpose? Or do they all have to be for "world peace"?


Karen   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Regarding Miss California, the issue is that Perez Hilton has no right to treat her the way he did. You people for gay rights want empathy and tolerance, but you have absolutely non for those who disagree with you! It's a one way street, isn't it?


sandi in Hong Kong   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I believe that two people of either sex who love each other and have formed a relationship where they live together and share each other's lives should have every legal right a heterosexual couple has in marriage....but perhaps "marriage" is not the right word. Traition is of a male and female....so all other arrangements should have a license which gives them every legal right...but is not called "marriage" as I believe it is that word that gets people upset.


Don   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

JOY, PLEASE ASK ANTI-GAY MARRIAGE ADVOCATES, WHAT IS WRONG WITH SAME SEX MARRIAGE, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THEM PERSONALLY? WHY CAN'T THEY LEAVE GAY PEOPLE ALONE?


Yvonne Johnson   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Why did no one call Steven Baldwin on his circular reasoning? He argued that he believes in 'traditional marraige' because homosexuality is condemned in the Bible, and that the Bible was written by God. But the only reason to think that this latter claim is true is that it says so in the Bible. Logically speaking, it's a totally invalid argument.


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I believe like the president does that marriage IS a man and a woman.


Connie   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman.
It is not between 2 men, nor 2 women or anything else!


Joyce in Brooklyn   May 1st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I Do not believe in homosexuality God Loves sinners but he hates sin and that why Sadam and Gomarrow was distroyed and i applaud Ms. California for what she believes in


Diane   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Gay Marriage: With SOOO much going on, thats really important, WHY do people care if commited , in love people marry? Gay, straight? LOVE should be celebrated, marriage should be a right for ANYONE


Dwight Faught   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

For me the problem with Ms California is that she did not answer the question which was regarding Vermont's decision to allow gay marriage and if other states should follow suit, instead she chose to offer a personal opinion about gay marriage and I believe that was the wrong thing to do as a representative of a state that has a huge diverse population


tee   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Romans 1:24-29. Someone read it. It will tell you what God has to say about men with men and women with women. End of story!


Beth   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

LIFE must be able to continue. Gay marriage prevents this natural progress of life and creates tremendous voids. Marriage should be between a man and a woman. RESPECT LIFE and let it flourish.


Todd Kaufman   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Rev. Nicole Lamarche has a 3 year graduate degree in theology – and we listen to Steven Baldwin quote the Bible?


JP   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Shanna is not qualified be a spokesperson for anything either.


Pete Webb   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Why do some people use religion to defend hatred and bigotry? I believe two loving committed individuals deserve marriage and all the rights attached to marriage


michael harding   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

why cant "religious" people butt out of other peoples private lives.
I think you are a bunch of superstitious, frightened, morons, but you have my blessing to go to any church of your choosing and listen to crazy-haired morons talk out of their behinds.
I will not parade outside your church with signs saying "Hello Crazies"
No! I respect your choice, I just dont want to be in your company.
Why can you not do the same with gays and muslims and Fender guitar players (I play Gibson)


GayandChristian   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

How is Billy Baldwin being discriminated against? I mean, specifically? His Christian beliefs are protected. His ability to get married is protected. His ability to deny non heterosexuals the right to marriage RIGHTS is not!


Valerie Goserud   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I feel marriage is between one woman and one man. However, two committed people should be able to legally recognize their union. Can't gay people just consider it a Civil Union with all the legal rights as a marriage. I just don't feel it's right to call it a marriage, it isn't the exact same thing.


Linda   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I have no objection to Miss California's expression of her opinion. AS to gay marriage... it does not hurt anyone to have a committed gay couple marry. No one is suggesting that a church must bless the union against the basic tenets of that religion.


Gary Melvin   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Miss California has the right to her opinion as to all of us. She is correct that homosexuality is a sin – there is no reading of the Bible to the contrary.


Robert Van Kirk   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I think the issue that is ignored here is that proposition 8 infringes on the rights of churches that want to perform gay marriages because they interpret the Bible different than these conservatives. The right wing is legislating their religious beliefs and infringing on the rights of less conservative people's beliefs.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

A person born blind cannot become a driver.
The person lives with it.
A person born gay cannot marry.
Live with it.

David


linda popoff   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I'm sick of god fearing people telling people what to do. Why don't we have civil marriages and religious marriages. That way everyone is happy.


Brandon W   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

The reason why this gay marriage is because its no diffrrent then the black white issue. And jesus did not right the bible 12 other people


Jim   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Mr. Baldwin talks about his bible beliefs. Can we please have an open discussion about civil marriage and not religious marriage. Isn't the United States of America suppose to be inclusive all people...please remember that not all people believe in religion.


Ryan   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Miss California was completely right. Gay marriage is morally wrong. She was very courageous to give her opinion.


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Unless someone is gay, gay marriage does not have an impact on their lives so they should keep their noses in their own bedrooms. People are way too nosy about other people's lives.


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

LaMarche is awesome!!!!


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

When did marriage become a religious issue? Marriage is a LEGAL CONTRACT, not a heterosexual right! This opposition of allowing gays to marry is reminiscent of the era of racism. Baldwin is a fool! Trip over your words some more...


James from TN   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

@Rick conservatives do the same thing.


DB   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin defends his view because "God wrote the bible" – I'm sorry Steve, but MEN wrote the bible 2000 years ago. To rely on this book to defend inequality is unconscionable. Gay people are PEOPLE. Stand up for your fellow person!


Aaron   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I know I am no expert in the area of religion or of religious matters, but it seems to me that when it comes to the matter of marriage and people use the Bible as reference as to why it should only be man and woman, that they forget the fact that the bible was created by a bunch of men, not God himself.


Darren   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

What blows me away is that everyone seems to be forgetting the one major point of this issue on gay marriage. Our country is governed by our constitution, not by the bible. Everyone has the right to believe in the bible and there is an equal right not to believe in it. But let's not forget, we are not a religious state, we are not governed by the bible. We are governed by a document that protects equal rights for all. It's that simple. The arguement for the bible's views on marriage has no place in this debate. The fact that a majority of voters want to ban gay marriage, doesn't make the ban right. If we went with that thinking, Women and African Americans would not have their civil rights. Everyone needs to mind their own busines and live and let live....sheesh!!!


Pat Houk   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

It does not impact me or my life is there is same sex marriage!
It's hard to find love so when you do cherish it...no matter what sex!


Drew   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

What about the persecution of gay people?? Funny how the anti-gay marriage people are claiming that they are the victim!


Mike (Louisville, KY)   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin, Rules! Stay Strong Stephen!


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Isn't it funny how all people want to see equality for all but yet the bible thumper is as bigotted as the gays who are angry because not everyone agrees.

I have been with my partner 17 years. Through deaths of family, financial struggles and many curves in the road. Why should we get to have the same benefits as hetero married couples?

Double standards on both sides of the fence. Enough already!


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

"FOR ONCE CALIFORNIA HAS A REPRESENATIVE THAT SPEAKS WITH HER HEART NOT A TELEPROMPTER!" ???? A big, heaving, medically enhanced "heart" bought for the purpose of winning a pagent. She'll be forgotten about in 2 months. Enjoy your limelight Carrie!!!


Matt   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Throughout so many decades marriage has been consistently redefined. If marriage has never been redefined, African-Americans could never marry, interracial marriages would be illegal and so would divorce. Obviously, this is not the world we live in today. What's the big deal? Are we really going to allow a world that puts a face on love? A gender on love? Love is love, it's not defined by a gender. Marriage should be about love. Society needs to stop acting like a man-woman marriage is the perfect example. And as for the whole religion argument, tell that to all of the Muslims, Athiests, Mormons, Scientologists, ect. This is America, can we stop contradicting our freedom for once?


Christina   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Regarding gay marriage, why does the right continue to argue the obvious? That they are uncomfortable with themselves and because they have not educated themselves, continue to speak without facts and without merit. Also, please, why can't you find a better spokesman for the religious right than Stephen Baldwin? Is this all they have? Lame...


Lora   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Miss California is entitled to her views on marriage. Her answers showed she is not ready for prime time as a person who needs to adlib in public. If someone doesn't believe in gay marriage, they don't need to do it!


Connie   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

If you don't believe in gay marriage – don't marry a gay person! People should marry who they love, period.


Debbie in Oklahoma   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Carrie has a right to her opinion, she answered the question of marrage honestly.


Tody   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I agree with Shana. Prejean, by aligning herself with the National Organisation for Marriage shows that she would not have had the maturity to carry the Ms USA crown with the aplomb and grace the title requires. She is allowing herself to be exploited and is probably as dumb as she's been said to be by the naysayers.


Elizabeth Miller   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

When someone brought it to my attention that animals are not gay, it made me realize how unnatural it really is... but I do believe that it is someones choice and gays should have the same rights.

Elizabeth


eileen voisin   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I am proud of that young girlsaying what she really believes.Its wrong
for 2men or 2women its against gods law


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

There shouldn't even be a question of whether or not gay marriage should be legal, we're all granted equality under the constitution. I'm sick of all the religious fanatics, they make me sick.


glenn   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Gay marriage, whats next , men and goats, men and swine, men and monkeys! we already had that and look what happened.


Billy   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Lets ban heterosexual mariage, flip the stakes to see how heterosexuals would be treated like how gay and lesbian are treated.

I tried being correct, but i am gay and want the same rights to mary whom i wish.


Rev. Tom Pemberton   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Concerning gay marriage. You can bet that NOTHING will ever come of it!


Tony S.   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Fortunately, we don't live in a country that is a theocracy. If Stephen Baldwin believes that same-sex sexuality is a sin, he shouldn't marry a man. Don't try to make your religious beliefs the law of the land. We all have the right to hold our own religious beliefs and inrerpretations of the bible.


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

If Miss California supported gay marriage, this topic wouldn't even be discussed right now.


Nancy   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

For any of the panel:

If two gay people in your town got married, how exactly would it affect you personally? It's no more your business than if a mixed race couple got married, or anyone else for that matter. How would you even know? It's not about you.


Jim   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

IF Baldwin does not want to marry a woman, tell her not to but don't deny me my god given sexual orientation and my right to marry the person of my choice.


James Howell   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I'm for same sex legal rights, but not Marriage. I live in CA and I get in so much trouble if I share my beliefs...
I have a right to vote, I voted my belief. Sorry, I'm not taking away the right to same sex marriage....it was never a right...marriage is a sacrament..not a legal binding decision in my and most of the peoples eyes who believe what I believe. Yes I'm Catholic.....but I also support abortion so no bias on part of the church here.


Sonya   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Tell Mr. Baldwin that God also said "Judge not"


Ian Reynolds   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

God did not write the bible Billy Baldwin! People wrote it, they may have wrote his words but that is where personal faith/beliefs come in.


Dave   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Perez Hilton was an irresponsible choice for a judge. A true marriage is between a man and a woman, sexual prefernce and creative wordsmithing cannot change that.


okenna   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Marriage should be between one man and one woman. Any arrangment between a man and a man (or woman and a woman) should not be called marriage.


Teri White   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Civil unions should be a right.


Joan   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I think Ms Ca is a hypocrit. She purports to be following the bible in her beliefs against gay marriage but yet she parades barely clothed in front of millions of people on television. personally, I don't have a problem with that but I do resent people who quote the Bible to suit themselves. Many things written in the Bible are no longer current beliefs; such as slavery. The Bible recognized and condoned slavery but today I don't think anyone would be ignorant enough to preach that.


BAMBI STARR   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

HELLO JOY AND GUESTS
I AM WILD ABOUT ALOT OF THINGS SAID TONITE ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE AND MISS U.S.A BEAUTY CONTESTANT
WHY ISNT ANY ONE UPSET WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA WHO IS AGAINST SAME SEX MARRIAGE THAT MAN HAS SO MUCH POWER WAY MORE THAN MISS CALF. WHY DONT WEDISCUSS THAT


Courtney   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I do believe that ALL couples should be united under Civil Union Licenses and those that are religious can be considered "MARRIED" by their church. Civil unions shoud be mandated to have equal opportunities and benefits to current marraige laws. If the word "marraige" is a religious term, it should be left to the church and out of the government and the news. I am a Christian woman and have trouble swallowing the word marraige. To me, this would be a comprimise that is a win/win.


Velma   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Marriage should be between a man and a woman!


Guillermo Garcia-Goldwyn   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I just heard Balwin saying that God wrote the bible.. where he got that? that was writen by a human man.. and everyone has the own interpretetion of that book.... beside we all missleading the question about Gay marrige...


Michael Lemaster   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Correction:

*Many conservatives are listening to laws created by men, whether they choose to accept that fact or not.


Laura, Dallas   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

This nation was founded on freedom OF religion – seems like every religion EXCEPT christianity is accepted anymore!!


foluke   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Well , let them get married and then the next controversy would be .......why can't i marry my brother, afterall its a free country.


JeanfromSebring   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Do we really care what Miss California's opinion's and beliefs are about gay marriage? I mean, she's prancing around in a bikini on stage – its not like she's a political official or a religious one. How moral can she really be while being half naked on stage in front of millions? If she believes that marriage should be between a man and woman- then maybe she should also believe in some modesty.


Darrell   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

God originated marriage, it's His program, and we should go by his rules. Are we now smarter than God? Did He not know that the institution that He established was supposed to include same sex marriage? Did God miss this? I think not.


Leah   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Joy,

The reason according to all... Bibles we are here.. is to pro create a life. Since gays are not able together to create a life.. that is anti christ to me. Gays can't have children . If this statement were not true.. God would have create only one sex here on earth. Not opposite sexes. I think.. Perez Hilton should be fired because of his bashing Miss Californias religious beliefs and calling her vulger names. Its not natural. Being gay is a sickness and not a choice. Its a handicap to me.


Lucienne   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Who cares what a pagent queen thinks? This is a POLITICAL issue. Something bigger than just this one girl. As a teenage bisexual, i don't see how if i got married to my girlfriend, how would that threaten a straight marriage? Love is love, and is not binded by gender


Steve Wells   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

As a gay man with a partner of 25 years, I am not interested in the religious connotations of marriage. We need the RIGHTS associated with marriage because of our loyal and honest commitment to each other and the many contributions we make to our community by the example we set.


t   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Marraige should be honorable values set by the couple and not the culture around it. If you rely on the community to sustain a relationship rather than the the partner, than their is a real problem.


anne   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

God never changes! same sex relationship, like murder is a SIN. God welcomes the sinner that promises to sin no more.

you can't can't continue to murder( be GAY) and expect God to love you!


Marisa   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Steven talked about sin but the Bible does not consider one sin worse than another. Anger and drunkenness are also sins. We sholud focus on respecting and loving each other and leave judgement to God.


Franklin   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

As an active duty member serving the United States Navy, it's time to end the bigotry. We are a country governed by laws, not a particular individuals religious beliefs.


angela gill   May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I just have to comment on the woman who could not believe that someones job could be threatened because of their vote on prop 8. How blindly she walks thru life. Jobs of gays men and women have been threatened for years. Also to the man and his god...... hes not my god hes your god. Don't have homosexual sex if your god tells you not to. Leave the rest of us alone.


Edward Clayton   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I'm not sure which one of those idiot Baldwin's was just on your program but someone needs to clue him in. GOD did not write the bible as he stated. The bible was written by MAN.


Linwood   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

there go the liberals attacking people personally maybe you should look at all of the tax cheats on obamas cabinet


Scotty   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

When will we realize that being homosexual is genetic and not a learned behavior? The religious right will soon suffer the same fate as the republican party. Plus, what a boom to our economy to allow gay marriage? Tens of thousands of couples flooding florists, caterers, purchasing wedding and housewarming gifts. Allowing gay marriage is it's own stimulus package!!


Lola   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I agree with Maggie 100%.


stephanie   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I am a christian, but I am ashamed of the behavior of these various 'anti gay' figures. These gay couples don't get to take away your house every time they get married. You are making more of a problem by being the way you are. chose your battles.


vikki bryan   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman...period.


Quynn Martin   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

If homosexuals were meant to be parents – they would be able to reproduce together.


Pearl Jr   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Gay marriage is unnatural–that 's indisputable, period! Two men and two women CANNOT reproduce period. What is the controversy? The ONLY problem is some people are determined to make what is wrong right!

GAY people and their supporters have become big bullies and intolerable. There will be a massive class action lawsuit soon due to traditional marriage supporters being blacklisted, especially in the entertainment industry.


David A   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

My only problem with the comment that Miss California made is her comment about "In my country..........." What country does she refer to? Doesn't that reference sound like a racist? I respect to her opinion but not when is doesn't include everyone.


William   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Regarding Gay marriage and the bible: doesn't the bible also say it is a sin to eat shellfish, and to have sexual intercourse during menstruation? Your guest who mentioned "selective reading" was right on target! And what is so threatening about gay marriage to those opposed to it? Shouldn't we let God be the final judge?


Barbara   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

It is SICK!!plain and simple.

Barbara from Miami


Marc in Lauderdale   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

choosing to be a Christian is about a person trying to improve THEMSELVES.. making yourself a better person... living by standards you want.. being a Christian is not about imposing views on ANYONE else... it's not about trying to control other people ... it's about following your beliefs and improving your life... The Taliban pushes their views on others... etc... being a christian is not about oppressing others...


Geri   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

LIVE AND LET LIVE, Why should we be against gay marriages. They want the same as you and I bet their marriages last longer.


Oliver   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Equal rights is a good thing....and by the way God did not right the bible nor did he right the new testament. If he did who's got his pen?


Rita   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

on gay marriage...the bible i read say's that the union between same sex is an abomination....the same for beastism


Anonymous   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Steven Baldwin is narrow minded and seemingly uneducated. God did not write the bible, man did. The bible is a collection of interpretations of man that existed thousands of years ago. The bible is not meant to be literally interpreted, but focused on as a foundation to live a principled life. God is a loving God, and not one that hates or prohibits love.


Timothy Ryan   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Dear Joy, im watching cnn live as I type, about the gay marriage issue. As a gay man many people would think im for gay marriage, but im not. I think a marriage is a sacred thing between a man and a woman, and im ridiculed about it every day, why must gay people automaticly beleive in gay marriage, every one should have there own opinion and not get treated any different.


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

There is such a thing as 'separation of church and state' the ad draws on religious reasoning which is simply not right. No American law can be in any way affected by religion. So to say gay marriage should not be legal on religious grounds is weak at best and flat out wrong at worst.


Grace Smith   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

How does gay marriage proliferate life? What's will stop the union of a human and a pet marriages?


R Coogs   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Why not allow Americans the right to marry their pets?


adonijah   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

if we talk about biblical references ltes go to the beginning.god make adam and eve not adam and steve,likewise ,in adams lonlyness he taughts visionize a woman and not a man


Eydie   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Was Jesus greatest commandment not "Love one another as I have loved you...this is my greatest commandment."? Why are these anti-gay right Christian wing people being so hateful? I am not gay, but the God I believe in is about acceptance and love for ALL of us.


Marie Stringer   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

What a strong young woman Miss california is. Kudos to her for
having the guts to stand up for what is right.
Homosexuality has become such an attention grabber for folks who
cannot fit into society in a natural manner.


charlotte   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

As a mother of 2, and grandmother of 1 and lesbian, I believe that my family is as worthy of protection and recognition as any other family.


Thomas Wiliams   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and I think that most people in the world feel this way. God made us male and female so that we could pro-create. We would be extinct if this was a gay world.


AntiBush   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

The bible is a compilation of book the church on Rome but together. the opinion of homosexuality then was just as frowned on as it is today.

However many issues in the bible have been proven to not be sin and actually medical condition of one sort or another.

That argument aside, homosexuals pay taxes in a country promising separation between church and state.

I am one who is open to argue the consequences for I have seen the consequences of not promoting monogamy amongst the homosexual community.


Tyrone   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Children need love and support. Maggie not a mother and father. What about gay marriage frightens you? Afraid your husband might be gay?


M   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Joy, if everyone was gay no babies would be created. The human race would die.


Chris Kreymann   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Which religion is it that allows flawed sinners to speak in judgment on behalf of God?


jamie   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

if you insist on interpretting the bible literally word for word, why don't we kill our kids when they talk back to us?


John Lenko   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Miss California has every right to believe what she believes and shouldn't be punished for it.

The only thing I want to say is that, although Steven Baldwin thinks God wrote the Bible, men wrote the Bible...not God. Men who had never even met Jesus Christ wrote the Bible and the Catholic church decided what went in it. So Baldwin is a moron.


Joseph Cohen   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Just dont call iot marriage, call it civil union! What about all this fuss?


Ben   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Marriage should be left to the church. Therefore all civil law should eliminate all social advantages of marriage. Since there is advantage for having two loving people make a relationship for mutual, child rearing, and social benefit, we should transfer all benefits of "marriage" to a civilly established relationship. Perhaps we could call it civil partnership.


Aware In Texas   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Can someone ask Stephen Baldwin if he really believes God wrote the Bible ?....and when did HE become an activist ?...sure we realize we dont have time or the luxury to be even discussing this nonsense ?.. who cares who marries who ?, cos if you do, your marriage is probably in trouble as well.


MOM   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

My son has been in a commited relationship for 20 years I only wish my daughter's MARRIAGE was as happy.


Chad   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I'm about to be married to a woman...And I just don't know why people even care about gay marriage. Why not let them be a miserable as the rest of us?


Daniel   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Marriage should be between any two people who love eachother. And a man and a man, or a woman and a woman are both capable of caring for a child.


Adam   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

So, is it OK to speak your mind in favor of gay marriage but get ambushed when you speak against it? Furthermore, we now have new interpertation to the Bible and redefining Christianity to support gay rights!


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I've lived in Las Vegas 30 yrs. Danny Gans is everything people think you cant find in Las Vegas. Honest, hard working & amazingly talented. What a sad day for Vegas.


Melissa   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Maggie Gallagher talks about how Miss California should not be bashed for publicly stating her opinion. Then what is wrong with criticizing her stance? As a public figure, Miss California would face a lot of scrutiny for whatever opinion she held about gay marriage. Had she said she fully supports it, NOM would be vocally outraged.


pam   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I think it is interesting that Miss California is being touted for being so brave and telling the truth about what she feels about gay marriage yet Miley Cyrus is being persecuted for what she has said, the American Family Association's campaign against Miley Cyrus for what she said about gays? I would hope you would stand up for her, after all she was just speaking her mind.

They say.

Such statements will send the wrong message to our children who are influenced by this teenage megastar. Parents need to realize that Cyrus is not the positive role model she was once thought to be.... Clearly she is confused and does not understand the Bible

for what she said

"Everyone deserves to love and be loved and most importantly smile."
"Jesus loves you and your partner and wants you to know how much he cares! That's like a daddy not loving his lil boy cuz he's gay and that is wrong and very sad!
"Like I said everyone deserves to be happy."
"God’s greatest commandment is to love. And judging is not loving."
"I am a Christian and I love you – gay or not – because you are no different than anyone else! We are all God's children.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

It is not about whether a person "believes" in gay marriage. It is about equality for all people who live in this country. Religion is how a person chooses to govern themselves. The law is SHOULD represent equality for all, and not be impacted by religion.


Bill   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

In the bible...

It was Adam and Eve... Not Adam and Steve

It's not a typo...

What is the thefinition of marriage? Can it be defined? YES! The dictionary defines marriage as:

marriage   

–noun

1. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.
3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of a man and woman to live as husband and wife, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.
4. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage; homosexual marriage.
5. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
6. a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.
7. a blending or matching of different elements or components: The new lipstick is a beautiful marriage of fragrance and texture.
8. Cards. a meld of the king and queen of a suit, as in pinochle. Compare royal marriage.
9. a piece of antique furniture assembled from components of two or more authentic pieces.
10. Obsolete. the formal declaration or contract by which act a man and a woman join in wedlock.

The definition of Marriage is between Man and Woman.

Bill


MARCIA KINGSLEY   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE WHO PROMOTE HATRED AGAINST GAY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET MARRIED?? TRUE LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL NO MATTER WHO IS INVOLVED. JUST LIVE YOUR OWN LIFE WITHOUT HURTING OTHERS AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.


Nolan from Richmond VA   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I THINK THAT IT IS A SHAME THAT GAY MARRIAGE IS IN THE FRONT AND THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN IS GOING THE WAY OF THE DINOSAUR REMEMBER WE ALL HAVE TO STAND BEFORE GOD AND GIVE AN ACCOUNT.

Nolan
Richmond VA


Roxie Southern Oregon   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Stephen seriously. You are being persecuted? When was the last time you were brutally beaten, tied to a barbed wire fence and left to die? Give me a break. You've got your civil rights. How about leaving others alone who want the same thing?


Christina Prejean   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Carie is my sister and she is the most loving person. She is beautiful and very smart. Shanna needs to stop talking rumors about my sister.


David Boyd   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Pezer Hilton is WRONG for saying hateful things about her. I wish people would just see the rule of law and realize that Marriage is between 2 people. The government has no right to tell anyone they can not marry as long as they are of legal age. All of these gay haters are over reacting.


John   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

GOD hates the sin not the sinner.
GOD hates homosexuality.


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

gays have a certain disdain for heterosexuals, its so obvious.


danny   May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Gay marriage is a civil rights issue. Just as marriage between an african american person and a white person was illegal in the 60's . It is unacceptable that the bible is used for legal discrimination as it (the bible) has been used to support segragation, slavery in our history.


Marianne from Utah   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Poor Baldwin, so so persecuted. Perhaps he ought to walk in the shoes of a gay who has been denied basic familial rights because the person committed to was the wrong sex. Unbelievable.


Nathou25   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I support Gay marriage all the way !! if two people love each other i don't see any problem of them getting married and living together !!
leave them the heck alone, how does it relate to your life oe evne affect ur life !! people nowadays just need to mind their own business !!!!!!!!!


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Steve Baldin....where do you get off saying it is a sin!!!! I am not a gay, but totally agree that gay people in love should be allowed to be married and have the same benefits as everyone else. Why can't 2 people deeply in love be married. Miss California or whoever you are...you are far too young and apparently not grown up enough yet to know what a loving relationship is.........be it between a man & a woman.......or two gay people. Steve you should just go home and go to bed......so we don't have to listen to your verbal diarea!!


Andrew   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

This is America, the country of the free where everybody's equal.


Ted   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I live in downtown San Francisco. I was also born and raised here. The building I live in is occupied 50% by gay individuals. I believe in freedom of sexual preference; however, I agree that many people including myself were not raised to understand gay marriage and everyone is entitled to their own views. I personally have a hard time understanding where to draw the line on "marriage" if gay marriage was federally legalized.


Patti   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Marriage is between 2 consenting adults.


Pat Burkhardt   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I think it is terrible to even have this conversation. This girl is a mere child. Whatever God we believe in is a loving God and wants people to be happy and not hurt anyone. How in the world is a man loving a man or a girl loving a girl hurting anyone. People who or so judgemental are sad. I hope that think about what they are doing and who they are going to answer to in the hereafter.


Dennis Parker   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Gay marriage is a sin ,fully supported by scripture and unknown thousand will burn in hell because of such liberal views.To hear a person who claims to be a minister and a child of God make statement that it is o.k. makes my heart very sad.


Robert Crist   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Just change the name from marriage to civil union and give the same exact rights as marriage to sam sex couples. That should END the argument. Everyone who is against same sex marriage seems to only oppose the word marriage being used. Don't use the word and the problem is solved.


Aleta   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Does anyone know what Leviticus Chapter 20 verse 13 says?
This is from GOD'S Holy Book.

We seem to be forgetting that if we are not one nation under GOD, we are going to be one nation gone under.

I applaude that lovely young lady who stood on her christian principles.
God will reward her.


Chris   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

If Shannon thinks that Miss California, should stick to her agenda, why
did they allow such a question to be asked during the pagent. which
clearly ask her to take a position. Just because they don't like the position she took, they are all now aganist her.


Joan   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I LOVE Ann Coulter...........!!!! And like it or not, SHE'S 100% CORRECT!! YOU GO GIRL!


Carole   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I think she stated her opinion very gracously and has all the right to, just as the gay population does as well. They don't have a problem expressing their opinion.
As far as marriage goes they need to think of a new term or word for their union. Marrige is already taken, the definition is between a man & a woman. So the gays need their own terminology, and should receive all the benefits that men and women have in a marriage.


Chanel   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Ann Coulter does not have opinions of her own. Even if Pres. Obama said he would drill off shore today, she would find something wrong with it. She's full of it... ... Republican talking points.


Jason   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Perez should not have gone onto the Internet like he did after asking a questions that may or may not have been allowed anyway. While I don't agree with Miss California, I do agree with her speaking her mind. If you ask someone's opinion, you do have to be prepared to hear something you might not like.


Eric Troutt   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Where are Joy's cards?


tony   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

who is ann coulter?


Kay McGougan   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Talk about oportunistic.....those are the people who try to reword the bible to justify their own sinful agends.


BMYK   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I do not believe same sex marriages are right. It is morally wrong.


frank   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

THEIRS A REASON WHY GAYS CANT MARRY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH HATE IN THERE HEARTS , THEY ATTACK, A NORMAL YOUNG LADY, WHO TELLS THE TRUTH


gordon   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The greek word for marriage is the same as that for testament and covenant and inheritance its structure is predetermined and Jesus himself stated that on earth we don't have the power to change it or even to break it, It is an agreement involving a testator that is a man and another which is the wife and it is only complete at the death of the testator.


jeje from oregon   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

marriage should be between man and women and i believe homesexuality is a sin.


alex   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Can someone please tell Mr Baldwin that GOD , did not write the bible


Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Gay marriage is agianst nature and agianst GOD!


Rev. Louis Dixon   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I support Ms. California's stance from a moral, social, and religious point of view. At this point in my life, me and my family are being persecuted by a Gay DA in Selma, Al and his name is Michael Jackson. He is formulating and congregating charges against us because we are very vocal about our stance of protecting traditional marriage as God noted in the first book in the Bible. He created man and woman in order to multiply the earth. Two men or two women cannot do this together. The word of God was here before Ms. California. Perez Hilton is a good example of why Gay people donot need certain rights, especially marriage. How in the world can Perez change the constituion of marriage when he will have to change the whole Bible.


Kent   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Come on...Steve Baldwin..GOD wrote the BIBLE? I couldn't believe that you actually made that statement. As a former pastor, the bible is filled with discrepancies...it doesn't take a degree in theology to find them. I'm still laughing...God wrote the bible!!!


Joshua C. Jones   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

In the book of Mathew, which is a part of the Bible Jesus answer a question put to him concerning divorce. Part of his answer says " For there are Eunuchs born; some come that way from their mothers womb. Some are made so by man and others become so for the sake of heaven. Let them who have an ear, hear it.
What does Mr. Baldwin thinks that Jesus meant by this statement?


Dan   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Ms. Prejean represented California as the Miss USA contestant. If I remember correctly, didn't California voters vote down gay marriage? If so, then she IS representing California. And the Miss USA spokesperson said she is too young to go on a 'junket' for the pro traditional marriage organization. If she WON wouldn't she then be a 21 year old on a 'junket' for the Miss USA organization?


Kirby   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Give me a break Steven Baldwin! For you to say you are being persecuted is ridiculous! Try being in a committed relationship for 17 years and not being allowed to marry or have the same rights that other couples do. If you want to protect marriage why don't you fight for tougher divorce laws!

I hope you don't plan on having an acting career anytime soon considering how many gay people work in hollywood.


david stone   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I have no doubt that future generations will look back at this ridiculous argument the same way we look back at woman voting, black and white people drinking out of different fountains etc. How stupid that we cant just move on!


Leigh Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

If you want to be "pro" hetero marriage, then why aren't they spending their time making divorce illegal?


Jerzgal   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Love is love. Can we all agree on that? Legalize gay marriage!


Mark   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I am totally against gay marriage because I don't belive people are born gay and that being gay is a choice. If it has to be made law it should be up to the states and it will never happen in Louisiana....Also, I am Christian and that pastor on their is twisted because the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sexual immoral sin....


Robert L.   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The fact that there was "controversy" over the "questions" of gay marriage and gay rights will one day seem as ridiculous and misinformed as the "questions" of women's rights or the rights of African Americans seem to us today. Those arguing against gay marriage and rights will look as foolish and ignorant as sexist and racist people of the past do to us today. History contains progress towrds freedom for all and though gay people may be the last to get theirs, they will get it.


Sarah Warden   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to play the reverse discrimination card regarding gay marriage. First of all, you are not being persecuted by being called a bigot if you oppose gay marriage, rather you are being persecuted if your access to the full spectrum of your constitutional rights is being denied on the basis of who you love. Gay marriage does not weaken marriage between a man and a woman ... it strengthens it. Gay marriages are based on nothing but love; a love fighting for just one place to stand in piece in this country. Walk in my community's shoes for one day, and then lets talk about what persecution is.


Rebecca   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Steven, et al
God did not write the Bible, man did and like anything that man had a hand in it is open to interpretation. Talk to theologist who have done research on the pasages that you are speaking of and you will find that they don't say what you are claiming. God promotes love not hate!


Lenda   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Everyone has an opinion Miss California has hers. The question should not have been asked! Period.

I agree with her. Stand up for your good beliefs everyone who has different beliefs gets heard why not the blessed ones.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

"A person born blind cannot become a driver.
The person lives with it.
A person born gay cannot marry.
Live with it.

David"
So says David, who thinks he's God. Thanks Davey. Now how about getting on that swine flu thing for us.....


Oliver Starr   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

This whole discussion is simply ludicrous. Prejean didn't lose the crown due to her views, she was never in a position to win it to begin with, she was behind after two of the major decisions in the first place and secondly, it was not her opinion but the fact that she clearly didn't understand the actual question and the form of her response made that patently clear to anyone watching the contest.

It is unfortunate that the media circus surrounding her unfortunate answer have provided her with a platform to promulgate her uninformed, biased and divisive views.

Is she being opportunistic? You bet. Does it merit the stripping of her crown? Only "the Donald" knows for sure but my vote is "absolutely".

Oliver Starr


Mitch   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

If we legalize gay marriage then we must legalize polygamy. If one group of people (gay and lesbians) have a constitutional right to marriage then ALL groups have a right to marriage


Judy Sorensen   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I find that almost all people against gay marriage call themselves Christian and quote the Bible. I personally do not believe the Bible as any more than a fictional history book and don't want it ruling my life or right to marry.


James Howell   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

They could have the same rights....they already had them in CA. They wanted it called "Marriage" ....that's the real debate..


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The Definition of marriage is 1 man and 1 woman. This has nothing to do with equal rights. It has to do with defining the word marriage. Every human is entitled to equal rights. But marriage is between a man and a woman. I believe this and it has nothing to do with how I feel about a gay person at all.


Mary Boyer   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

My partner and have been together 17 years. We are not "out" at work because we dont want to be discriminated against in our pay, benefits, etc. 3 out of 4 of my straight siblings are divorced and 2 out of the 4 never made it to 17 years. All I want is the same benefits straight people have when it comes to taxes, health care issues, etc. I do not understand why people are so threatened by this. The divorce rate is 50%. We dont have the right to marry or have a civil union that is recognized–how are we going to destroy "marriage" any more than 50%. If I cant have the same benefits I shouldnt have to pay the same taxes.


Dana   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Why was Miss California even asked this question? She has a right to give the answer she believes – it would have been worse if she had lied and said what Perez Hilton wanted her to say. This is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!! Clearly God intended a man and woman to be together "traditional marriage" and not the same sex as the same sex cannot reproduce. Without reproduction life as we know it would end.


Wayne Dahlen   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Larry

Gay Marriage is "Perverted" "Sick" and "Kinky". Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

Wayne Dahlen
Dawson Creek
British Columbia,
Canada


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I wonder what the far left CNN liberal news network larry king live poll on gay marriage result will be.

Hmm. 🙂


James   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

It is insulting for the gay community to hear that defendants of heterosexual only marriage feel "attacked".. you really need to live in the shoes of a gay person to understand what attcked means...


DIANNE N. THODOS   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

CARRIE HAD THE COURAGE OF HER FAITH CONVICTIONS BY
SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE ANATHEMA OF "GAY" MARRIAGE.
IT SHOULD BE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN THE FOUNDATION
OF THIS NATION AND THE BEDROCK OF FAMILY.
THE ' GAY" JUDGE WHO VILIFIED HER WAS OUTRAGEOUS IN HIS
HATEFULL TIRADE.
I APPLAUDE CARRIES COURAGE AND HER INTEGRITY.

DIANNE NICKOLS THODOS


David   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

@Grace
Your argument has no value. We're talking about human marriage, no one is talking about animals. If you really can't understand that... there's no such thing as a "consenting" animal and an animal could not sign marriage papers... that enough is enough to trash your argument.

Proliferation of life is not a qualification for marriage is it? We allow infertile couples to get married, no?

Your argument holds no water.


Michael Lockhart   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The Bible says women who remarry after divorce are committing adultery. Should the laws be changed back to traditional form?

If not, why is it such a problem to change the laws to allow gay marriage?

Michael Lockhart


Adonis   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

A married couple live miserably together, why not let gays get married and be miserable with every other couple in the world. The "tradition" of marriage has become very bias. Pathetic.


John Buckley   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The bible teaches woe unto them that call good evil and good evil. The bible set the standard for what is right and what is wrong.Being gay is wrong according to the word of good.


Shiva   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Peoples business is peoples business, I wouldn't want people to judge how I live, however when it comes to adoption from gay marriage i'm kinda torn between the subject due to not wanting to judge. Can it cause straight kids to think they are gay? Would it cause the straight kids to experiment when thats how they're raised and all they know? Is it good for the straight kids?


Christy Stock   May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I totally agree with Steven Baldwin. You believe in the bible or you don't. I, too, feel Christians are the ones being persecuted.


yetunde   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Joy,
PLEASE LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE.IF TWO SAME SEXES CAN'T REPRODUCE A BABY,AND HAVE TO BUY SEX TOY, TO ENJOY REAL SEX.THEN,THIS SO CALLED GAY MARRIAGE IS UNREALISTIC.


Michael Truan   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Why is gay marriage such a big deal? Will you be supporting these gay couples? You have no right to judge a gay couple as wrong. You have no right to tell Americans who they can and can not marry. It's none of your business.
Marriage is about two people who love eachother. You can not define marriage only to your conservative close minded belief. This is the USA...what happen to the land of the free?
Any by the way....I'm so glad Miss California is getting the media (negaive) publicity she so deserves. How Ironic....California???


Fred Allan Henry   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I am gay and I support gay marriage and gay rights. Marriage is not always between a man and a woman. Marriage is between two people who love each other and want to be with each other. It dosen't matter if the two people are a man and man, or a man and woman, or a woman and a woman. As long as the two people love each other and want to be with each other, that is enough to call it a marriage.


Sonia   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I believe the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage was designed and is God's plan. That said, I think our society is ready for a legalized union between same sex couples. And I do agree that Christians are starting to feel the "heat" or feel persercution. But that is good news for Christians.


Antony   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Gay marriage is a union that should be celebrated in the context of a union that is singular and unique from the cultural canon of heterosexual marriage. The construct for Gay Marriage should be independent, and created to be unique on the construct of same sex individuals. Why should the gay cultural community be stricken by the poor history of marriage between heterosexuals?. Creating your own cultural history and be vision can be defining empowering and free from conflict.


Yolanda   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I think she should not be having any say in gay marriage. They even payed for her implants and now she thinks she can do this?


GEORGE   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

When this country was founded it was by mostly men who were not religious but secularist. The result was that the constitution as a framework ultimately requires equal protection under the law. The law took time to evolve to the point where there is a seeming conflict regarding “Marrage”.

This country has given married persons in a male-female marrage an advantage in several legal areas that are not available to others.

Several state and local governments have attempted to permit same-sex marrage to get around the seeming injustice of these “advantages”.

It appears that the proponents of same-sex marrage may have taken a wrong turn in their efforts to correct the situation.

In my opinion the governments that permit same-sex marrage should completely stop issuing “Marrage Licenses” The governments should issue “Certificates of Civil Union”
Having the full effect and value of the old “Marrage License”.

Once any two permissible adults enter into a civil union it should be their option to engage a representative of any religious boy or organization of their choice and get “Married”.

It should not be the government’s business to be involved or to sanction any religious representative to officiate and to verify a civil document. This is only a government matter.

It is not in the people’s interest to make some persons unequal under the law.


Susan   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

No one should be denied rights because they were born different, i.e. not straight. I cannot understand why it bothers anyone. Why deny love? There has to be a little hate in people opposed to gay marriage;not god like


Neil Anderson   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Marriage is between one man and one woman. Gay marriage should not be allowed. This is God's plan, not mankinds.

Thank you.
Neil


Brenda   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

if you love each other enough to get married by all means do it! By the way God did not write the bible, the poeple around Jesus did and there are many different versions of it just as different religions have different marrige cerimonies. For legal purposes any JP sould be able to marry gay's having nothing to do with religion.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Linwood May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

marriage is between a Man and a women!!!

UNLESS IT IS OTHERWISE BETWEEN A MAN AND A MAN OR A WOMAN AND A WOMAN!!!! ;P

Oh wait, I forgot the obligatory lol


Yaw Gabriel   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

When you adopt a child how do you think they are born? from a man and a woman not a man and a man or woman n woman! I dont think Miss California should go through all this media and press and crap just because she answered a question based on how she was raised and i thought it was a very reasonable and great answer to the question. Just because Perez Hilton is gay doesnt mean he has da rite to critizes others for not agreeing wit gay marriages!


Katherine   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

What is the problem. If same sex partners want to get married, what is the problem? It is like saying you are against certain books. Then don't read them or certain tv shows, don't watch them. If you are against same sex marriages then marry someone of the opposite sex. What is the problem?


angela   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

i am not married, lived with the same man for over 25 years, what do i call it?


matt   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

If they did not want to hear the truth, why did they ask the question? If you don't like what you hear, should the 1st amendment be removed?


dimitri   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I feel that 'marriage' is a word that should be used only for men/women relationships. If homosexual couples enter into domestic relationships, then call it a 'domestic partnership', with the same rights as married people. As far as rights are concerned, and as a heterosexual man, I don't have a problem with homosexuals having rights, as long as they don't have any more than I do....I don't want anyone's agenda forced down my throat and then calling me a bigot because I disagree.


Shirah Penn   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I believe that e'veryone has the right to their opinion. I think that everyone thinks their opinion is the right one. I wasn't there when God wrote the Bible so i can't actually say that it was written by God as such. I think lots of different people wrote what we think is The Bible. In fact there are many interpretations of that book. There are other religions that have a different bible. i think We need to look at ways and teachings that bring us together, not divide us.
I also think Miss California lost the Miss USA contest because she lost the contest and Miss North Carolina won it. That is all.


Wanda Ruback   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I agree with Miss California and Stephen. He is right. The Bible says exactly what he said.


Kent Campbell   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

In Genesis God created man and then he took a rib of man and made woman. They to shall be one flesh. He didn't make man and take a rib to make another man for man. God made a man and a woman and told then to multiply the earth. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for gay activity. This is why I do not believe in the Gay lifestyle. God will have his day with this type of lifestyle. Maybe not now, but at the judgement.


Bobby Atkinson   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

The problem with Carries answer is we hate the truth when it stares us in the face!We will believe a lie before the truth because we dont live in a society that seeks the truth..What God left on record can not change no matter how many debates we have.Remember ,man cannot live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of his mouth.God is a God of love but he also is a God of wrath.You choose.Believe a lie or the truth!!


Janice Gross   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

My husband & I have been married for 40+ years. If we had gotten married earlier than June, 1967, our marriage would have been illegal in several states. I think gays ought to have access to the legal protections of marriage just like the rest of us. There is no way that gays being supported in monogamous relationships is a threat to our marriage.


Casey Jones - Palm Springs, CA   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I really don't care if ppl believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, exclusively. I care when that religious belief is inserted into and over-rides our Constitutional rights. That's wrong. You cannot adjust the constitution to accommodate religious beliefs–that would lead to more hatred and discourse throughout the world. There's a reason for separation of church and state.


Junior   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

King James Bible (Leviticus 20:13)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Mike   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

we are all forgetting why there is a man and a woman. Procreation...let a man/man try it. We are not frogs!!!


Dino   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Shame on you, God is not a pimp. Read this" Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves, For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. "Romans1-20


Matt   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Gays are the most discriminated group of people in this country. People need to realize that Religion is a story, put aside your biases and allow equality for all people in this country...


Laura Bowers   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Ms. USA was asked a question about Gay Marriage and she answered it the only way to answer it. She has every right as everyone does. But her answer wasnt what Perez Hilton wanted to hear, so he got on his own blog and called her names. Who is he to do that?


Ben Freeland   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

This is a country of Freedom of Speech and everyone has different opinions. People need to realize that! Leave Ms. California a lone! it is her own opinion!
P.S That reverend needs to review the bible before she speeks! Where did she go to college? B.S Interpretation University?


Edna   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

there is no tolerance for "christian beliefs" in this country anymore. The bottom line is IF you believe the bible is true – God says "two people of the same sex lying together is an abomination" That "reverend" needs to remember that the loving God also does not lie. What bible does she read or believe in?


Linda Messina   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Shana M. is dressed like a 1950's housewife. Yet, she is not exsposing 1950's values. Why is she so vitrolic about the gal who lost the USA contest? Opinions are opinions and belong to those who have them, regardless if they differ. What's the point of all this debate? Let them and let go.


Andrea   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

The reason Miss CA is being vilified is because she expounded a bigoted position. 40 years ago there were laws against blacks and whites being married, and the Bible was also used as a justification. Can you imagine what we'd call people today who said blacks/whites couldn't get married?


Linda   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Marriage should be between a man and a woman, for too long the Christian people have stood silent and let the liberals try and push their stuff down our throat. If we speak out we are bashed and its not right, at all...We have rights too.


Eric   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I am a legal tax paying citizen and to be denied equal rights is a violation of my constitutional rights. Why should I even be required to pay taxes!
What ever happened to separation of church and state!


Lori   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

This seems to be a young lady that is pushed into making statements about issues and comments that will certainly come back to haunt her. She will most likely look back on and have many regrets; hope she does not have children that may grow up being gay, what a sad situation she has gotten herself into


Char   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I am tired of Perez Hilton accusing Miss California of being Anti Gay. Does everyone have to have the same views and beliefs as him? Are you wrong to have your own opinions on gay marriage. The way he carries on, cursing and whining about it, really makes him look like an immature sulking drama queen. The more he talks now, the more respect I am losinig for him. I wouldn't even put him in the same ranks as a journalist. He's very narrow minded.


Brian Fulk   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period.

Condeming the Miss USA candidate for stating her views and this obvious historical acceptable fact is totally ridiculous. It shows the gay/lesbian pendulum has moved far too far. I was accepting of gay and lesbians, but do not try to change the normal people!
Brian Fulk
Richmond, VA


Gray Peterson   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Once again, Maggie Gallagher uses the words "there's something special between a man and a woman". Once again, the anti-equality forces, who regularly lob at marriage equality supporters "special rights", betray their own statements. As a gay man, I am sick to death of the special right of heterosexuals to marry that is denied to me. The recent news in New England shows that marriage equality supporters must continue pushing our Legislatures and that we will not accept anything less than equality.

-Gray Peterson
Seattle, WA


Grace Hoffman   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Miss Ca is absolutely right. What we do not understand is why a gay guy is judging women? This is very strange and wrong.


Toddros   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Marriage is a religious term.

The goverment should get out of the "marriage" business, and provide licenses for couples who wish to commit to each other with full rights under the law. Call it a union if you want.

Each church should be allowed to define marriage as it wishes, and perform marriage for whom it wishes – so a couple, gay or straight, that wishes to get "married" simply needs to find a church that will perform the service.

The legal rights given to a couple are provided by the government – the marriage label is provided by the clergy.


Karen Westfield   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I believe gay marriage is wrong, but we can't stop it. God will deal with those who fight against him. I really hate it for them. Some of nicest and smartest people I've ever met.

Karen


Keith Jeff   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

God made a man with a penis and He made a woman with a vagina...it's by far the better match!


Lola   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Larry is too old. Time to retire?


Linda   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

It wasn't that long ago that these same people or those like them opposed marriage between black and whites.....this is just the next phase of equal rights for all. THese people have deep seated fears and are intolerant of change and anything that goes against their beliefs. THey don't have to marry a same sex person, but why should they be allowed to dictate to the rest of the country who can or can't. I know many people in gay relationships that are healthier and promote better family values than many of these bible toting, hate mongering narrow minded so called "Americans".


Ts   May 1st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I am tired on issues on gay marriage. Im not for it nor am I aganist it. I am tired of people stating that the bible says that gay marriage is sin. Show me!!! I read the bible and I have not came across that gays are evil or sinful. People need to stop listening to trival things like this and focus on repairing the economy and helping our troops


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

The point behind the interview process in the pageants is to answer questions posed by judges in a clear, articulate way; as well as to show how quickly they can come up with answers to questions that are relevant to our society. Just because pageant contestants give an answer that aligns with the judges, that is no reason to mark her score lower and to penalize her for her opinions. Unless I missed something, this is the United States and we do have the right to our opinions.


Rita   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Ann is the reason that we Americans are viewed as idiots. America has more liberals and people like her are a minority and she needs to get over it....To hear her speak about being marriage and children is sickening. CNN needs to keep her off the air . Getting your religious views mixed up with your political views is Un American to begin with Ann ."Seperation of state and church" mean anything?


Jessy   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Homosexuality is a sin. It is not ordained of God, therefore "Gay" marriage is just wrong. Here is a supportive verse from the Holy Bible, which is God's word:

1 Corinthians 6:8-10 (English Standard Version)

"But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers and sisters!

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men or women who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."


tony   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

there comming after us christians thru distorted laws we all know how wrong it is to be married to the same sex ,they will burn in hell t


Debra   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Christians should have the right to their belief just as anyone else does. I am a Christian and believe in the Bible. Therefore, I do believe gay marriage is viewed as a sin in the eyes of God. God loves the sinner just not the sin.


Lois Raimondi Munchel   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I beg to differ with Mr. Baldwin, & others. God did not write the bible. The bilble is an interpretation of what happened during his life & the interpretations of his followers. Written many years after his death. I think that Miss CA got fake boobs instead being happy with what God gave her is more of a sin. God created us all equally not based on who we sleep with & loves us the same. Speak of those who divorse after taking the vows that are biblically based of "Let No Man Put Us Under". Those sins & those who commit them are not admonished. Which shows the hypocricy of organized religion.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

The bible is clear. God loves all his creatures. He is also unambiguous in the way he wants us to behave. Thou shall not kill,thou shall not steal...he also expressly stated that it was against his wishes for a man to lie with another man. What is so difficult about that to understand. If you claim to be Christian why are these people going against Christian teaching? It is funny who traditional CHristians are being persecuted?


Molly   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Danny Gans truly loved Las Vegas. You could see that every night in his incredible shows.


Elizabeth   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

i agree with david stone.


Sandy P   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I totally agree with Miss California. Isn't one of our rights "The Freedom of Speech?" Also, I believe the words of the Bible, that God left us, to follow. "And a man shall leave HIS mother and father, and "cleave unto his WIFE".
Sandy P


Monique Breer   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I just wanted to say I am a strong supporter of freedom of speech and freedom of religion! Our constitution supports both and we need to support our constitution. I believe that those who support homosexual marriage should have the right to say so without fear of ridicule and I would love to see those who support homosexual marriage give the same respect to those who oppose it. Calling Miss Prejean a female dog was not a sign of respect for her right to freedom of speech and religion. I support traditional marriage and would stand up and fight to protect the right of those who disagree with me to voice their point of view. I would ask those who support homosexual marriage to stand up and protect my right to voice my point of view and to treat me and those who stand on this side of the fence with respect. Thank you.


Nathan   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

If it upsets so many people and they keep referring to the bible, let the Gay people of America have a legal marriage. There’s a difference between politics and religion. Marriage shouldn’t be limited to only heterosexuals.


Suann Weller   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Homosexuality is an abomination to God and yes I believe in God. That's the problem with the world now days. My son is gay so no I don't hate gays and neither does God, but he does hate the sin and homosexuality is a sin.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

@angela
No... gays have a disdain for heterosexISTS... small correction. And no wonder, not being treated like normal people. I disdain them (you) too.


donald fleming   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

marriage should be between a man and woman. but we know as adults, where known to do stranger things than same sex marraige.


eileen goldner   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Marriage has at least two components....legal and religious. The legal issue makes it imperative that all citizens choose the person they want to spend their life with and are allowed to marry that person. That is equality. If religious people want to have a ceremony that binds people together they can ban whom ever they want from participating in that. The govt. should not use religious criteria for legal unions.


Delvakio Sharrod Brown   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

gay marriage is wrong it has been against the law back when this country strated and it should stay that way. Very one has their chioce and i think it is wrong .


Barb wood   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

We do not support gay marriage and fail to see why civil unions are not acceptable.


Robin Harrison   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

In ths country, all the minorities get all the media attention. It is time for the silent majority to be heard and Miss CA is providing us with this stepping stone. Miss Ca has a right to her opinion just like anyone else. Marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is against nature. Let's stop pretending it's normal. It's not!. I admire Miss Ca for sticking to her guns and not buckling under the pressure. We live in a backward country where extreme views and lifestyles are celebrated and morals, and traditional values are frowned upon. There is something really wrong with this country when a person–any person is condemed for being normal. Please!


Flora A Graham   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I would like to add to my previous comment, what happened to freedom of speech. Again, christians don't have any rights any more but it appears that everyone esle does.


Ronnie Al   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

If you believe that the Bible is the final authority then you will be believe that gay marriage or gay men or lesbianism is against the word of God. If you don't believe that the Bible is the final authority then you don't believe God. God has given us a free will and what you do with that free will will determine much when you die. I stand for Carrie Prejean and Stephen Baldwin.


Harsh Mangal   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Just because your belief asks women not to marry other women and men not to marry men, then don't. Why are you implementing your "traditional laws" on the rest of the world? Your book also states that we all are sinners and will eventually end up in hell. Then, what's the big deal behind sinning even more? We know that no matter what, the tyrant will punish us for the crime we've not committed.


shan gentry   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

In my interpretation of God's word (and there are MANY interpretations and distortions) He does not condone discrimination!!!!!!!!!! Personally, I pray that my one gay child has ALL the rights, respect, love and appreciation that my straight children are allowed. Question, to the believers of one man one woman marriage...How does gay marriage hurt straight marriage??? It does not!!! Everyone should be entitles to love who they love!! I think the opposers of gay marriage for the most part are ill-informed and only being lead into discrimination and not thinking for themselves.........My child is as important as yours! Wake up and think!


Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Miss California just stated she agreed with most of the people that voted in her own state not to mention all the other states that have voted down gay marriage. Judges should not be allowed to make laws that don't follow what the majority of the people want.


Mike Canada   May 1st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I agree with same sex marriage, but I also agree that those who feel differently are treated in an unfair manner. As time goes on, and gay marriage becomes the law, (all indications are it will,) I hope that all people can focus on their similarities, rather than differences.


Joan   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

oh, we're on gay marriage now?

IT'S WRONG!!! i THOUGHT the governement is suppose to stay out of the bedroom. But they don't.

GAY MARRIAGE IS WRONG.


Chanel   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Tell me how banning gay marriage is not discrimination. It was not too long ago, that my interracial marriage to my husband would have been banned as well. No matter what your personal opinion or religious views are, forcing those views on others is wrong.


jimmie   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Its adam and eve not adam and andy, same sex isn't right and being politically correct doesn't get you to heaven.


lisa   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

What has our country come to that you can not have the freedom to say or beleive how we choose. I personally do not beleive in gay marriage, but do have gay freinds. I also beleive that you can hate the sin but love the sinner, God tells us to love one another.


Pam Buckley   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I believe Miss California made many, many Americans proud to live in the land of the free! I personally stand and applaude her remarks each time they replay it. She is an inspiration and a wonderful example to young and old. It has been shameful the way the judge who asked the question went so public with immature, scathing remarks about such a beautiful and accomplished young woman! I am disappointed in Donald Trump for allowing such disrespect and bigotry in his pageant!


Caleb   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

People have different reasons for entering into marriages. If it is for companionship then gay marriages may be allowed, if for the sake of procreation, then gay marriages cannot be allowed.Marriage was institutionalized by God and made sacred between a MAN and a WOMAN.i think anything outside this is not Godly


Rhonda   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I believe that people who believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman are being persecuted for their beliefs. I believe in civil union for homosexual couples but not marriage. I respect those who disagree with me and I would hope that others would respect the fact that I have a right to my own beliefs.


Melissa   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Love is not exclusive to heterosexuals. Marriage is a commitment of love and also should not be exclusive to heterosexuals. Two people, no matter what their sex, should be allowed to have the benefits of marriage and their love legally recognized.


sam   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I have to say that Miss California's answer was very obnoxious and for people to congratulate her is inane. She was running for a title. The one who had the advantage over her was Perez Hilton, who is openly gay. So if he asks you a question like ":what do u think about gay marriage", you dont reply with "IN MY COUNTRY...." Thats a slap in the face.
The rules of Miss USA includes being judged on moral character. What kind of morality is that when you're going to tell a gay human being that he's in another planet because "IN MY COUNTRY..."
As far as gay marriage and my opinion. it should be permitted. The way I see it, if a gay person wants to marry, let him suffer like the rest of us.


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Stop comparing the civil rights movement to the gay movement.

I'm an AA an I'm against gay marriage and i think it is an insult that the gay movement likes to try to compare the two, they are NOT the same.


Mark   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

If your a gay or a lesbein you deserve the same benefits as straight people, but the bible says marrige is between a man and a woman.


Raven Savage   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I'm a full supporter of same sex marriage and, although I respect the fact that different people believe in different things, it frustrates me when these huge debates flare up about what a celebrity says about it or when an important individual shares their opinion. I mean really; Why can't we all just live in peace?


Dan Nelson   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Homosexual relationships are an abomination and is being set up where Jesus said it should not be and that it is in the United States which was created on Christian values! He also said that this would happen in the end times and if gays and lesbians continue in this sexual behavior they continue to sin and WILL be accountable for this abomination!


Bud   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

While I do not necessary support gay marriage, I do not feel that it hurts my marriage. For those who want to save traditional marriage why not go after those people who commit adultry. If you feel a sin is a sin, what is the difference between being gay and committing adultry?


Neil Schneider   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Not all gay people want children so the argument that gay marriage is bad for kids is unfounded in reality. Neil in Phoenix


Joe and Tracy Sargent   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I believe marriage is clearly stated to be between one man and one woman in the bible. Genesis 2 23 is where god made woman and the next verse Genesis 2 24 it says for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. It doesn't get much more clear than that.


Dan   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

If someone wants to argue that gay marriage is ok then I'll have to say that polygamy is also ok. If people have the right to marry anyone they want then we also have the right to marry as many people as we want, without restrictions. If you legalize gay marriage, the next movement will be to legalize polygamy, be prepared!


tommy   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

My question is for Mr. baldwin and all others who are against same sex marrige. And say the Bible means marriage is for a man and a woman. What about people who are born with both sexes or as some call them hermaphadites?


Kristin   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

What? A 21 year old can't have a belief!!! Some people just do not believe in Gay marriage. Deal with it!!!!!


Alan   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

My partner and I have been together for going on 26 years in July. We would like to see gay marriage because of the persecution that we as gay men have gone through now for 50 years (we were 25 when we got together). The difuculties over the years with my religious family have been overwhelming but because of real love (not lust) as most people would lead one to believe have made us stronger. Talk about persecution!!!!! Theirs will be short lived compared to what gay folks go through.
Alan


jeff cook   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I am a gay man in a monogamous relationship for eleven years. We do not wish to get married. However, I feel that anyone should have the right/opportunity to marry if that is what they want.


Timothy - CT   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I am from CT and have recently come out to my family and friends. It was the most difficult thing I have ever done because the fact is that I will have to deal with a lot of people judging me based solely on that fact. Even these days homosexuality is still so taboo and forbidden in small towns.
I don't understand how people can be so bitterly against and kind of civil union between too people. How anyone judges their personal philosophies as objectively correct mystifies me. I don't see why conservatism always aligns with selfishness, stubbornness, and judgement.


dr. n'guessan k. marshall   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

the bible clearly states in 1st Corinthian 6V9 that hmosexuality is a sin.
those who claim to believe in th Bible should should read.


Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Steve Wells May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET says
"I am not interested in the religious connotations of marriage."

Well you should be!


gina from arizona   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I teach early american history and happen to be a Christian. We have totally lost sight of freedom of speech, and religion. We have lost sight of it in this case becasue shana is saying that ms. california has "certain responsibilities" when has lying through your teeth and commiting to a value you do not share become a responsibility. if there were a person chosen who supported gay rights would we be having this conversation ....?? i think not.


Darlene Wallace   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

How's this for some shock factor....God created Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve! I'm sticking with tradition. Just remember, judgement is coming. Repent!


Firstlady 50   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

God created and ordained marriage and the Holy Bible clearly defines the truth that the marrige union is between a man and a woman. He created Adam and Eve, blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply. That settles it. Who are we to try to change what God created and instituted?


kate   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and miss CA aligned herself with controversy through no fault of her own. She did not ask for the question. Also, does anybody else see a problem with Perez asking this question or is it just me? And his reaction was not favorable to say the least. (and to james in idaho- God inspired man when writing the bible!)


cgay   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

So...if same sex marriages become the norm, we can plan on the extinction of mankind. Neither two men nor two women can procreate. End of story, end of world.


cbofour   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

people are funny! the person or people that are talking against MISS CA. all came from a straight marraige take that to the bank....


NRMD   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

marriage is betweeen a man and woman. you can not change. between gays it is a union. You can not call everything a marriage. If you want to call between gays a marriage then change between man and a woman as union. It does not matter. If you can not put bad people in jail then put good people in jail. It is same and It is that simple.


jan   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I thought marrriage was invented to protect men and women from each other, i.e.men and women tend to misunderstand each other because they are so different physiologically. With marriage, women were protected in many ways, economically and socially. Same sex couples don't have those obstacles.


gary r. Jones   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

California just voted not to allow gay marriage but you would think the results were the opposite. The gay mafia is alive and well, when will the peoples will be brought forward by our representatives?


Alyssa   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I am so sick of people using the excuse "kids need both parents; a mom and a dad" as a platform for anti-gay marriage campaigns. not only is that an insult to homosexuals but it's also an insult to all single parents, and widows and widowers. explain how the two situations are different.


JeanfromSebring   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Also, people used to use the bible to prevent blacks and white marrying- and guess what- it happened anyway, has hell frozen over? No. I believe its no one's business who you want to marry – let's keep the government out of our bed.


Joyce Ahumada   May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I agree 100% with Stephen Baldwin! Marriage should be between a man and women! The Bible says that God will punish the nations who accept homosexuality.


Delvakio Sharrod Brown   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Gays should get their own country if they want to marry because The United Stes of America does not need to change the law.


Gene Nishinaga   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

The issue is an issue of definition, not of rights. The word "marriage" defines a relationship between a man and a wife. The union of two people of the same sex is a "civil union." People who are bound by marriage and people bound by a civil union both have the same legal rights. A gay couple is not denied their rights because they cannot be called "Married" any more than a boy is being denied his rights because he cannot be called a "girl."


Daemien   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

christianity isnt about oppressing others but it is about spreading the word with other people and letting it be known not in a forcefull way but in a informative way. We are to just let others know about god and they are to decide themselves. god gave us that option.


Siobhan Ogilvie   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Stephen persecuted for being for "opposite" mariage as Miss CA says is a joke! Someone needs to ask him if he recalls attending and participating in Tom & Nelson's wedding in Bellmore? I am not saying he is gay at all – but was tolerant at a time. He was not originally invited and asked to be part of it. His views are now just as Miss CA's an exploitive way to be heard and I think a bit exagerated by everything he believed in his past.


Linda   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Joy is a liberal pushing person, let others speak, don't bash others because we don't believe like you, Larry should stop having her on, Joy thats is


Sarah   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I am appalled that a person can't express their honest views because it
doesn't meet the standard of politically correct.


Salley Erline   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Because of same sex marriage is a hot topic, it should not affect what one believe in. Whether for it or again it. That question should not have been posed to Miss California. Yes, I do feel she was just a scapegoat.


Ben Freeland   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Thank You Edna!! Yeah We agree!!!! If only everyone else did too, but that is why we live in the United States.


Thomas Eichstadt   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I'm so tired of all these die hard liberals!Enough,we get it.Don't ask us to change our veiws on gay marriage.We will not change you.Media always reports the minority of veiws,cause-guess what-It's drama it sells.I'm a republican,however this country is headed down the wrong path quickly.Obama is definately doing a good job!Is it great ,time will tell.


ckmichigan   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

gay marriage is wrong, homosexuality is wrong. the bible is the truth.
if homosexuality is not wrong why do so many gays feel shamed? the fact is that only a man and a woman can create the miracle which is life.


mistressmary   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I can't believe Billy Baldwin just asserted that God wrote the Bible! God is not an author! His prophets and followers wrote the BIble. UGH!


Timothy CT   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I am from CT and have recently come out to my family and friends. It was the most difficult thing I have ever done because the fact is that I will have to deal with a lot of people judging me based solely on that fact. Even these days homosexuality is still so taboo and forbidden in small towns.
I don't understand how people can be so bitterly against and kind of civil union between too people. How anyone judges their personal philosophies as objectively correct mystifies me. I don't see why conservatism always aligns with selfishness, stubbornness, and judgement.
I am glad to live in one of the few states staying relevant in modern american society.


Will   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I still don't get how my being in a gay relationship for 13 years has threatened traditional marriage? I wasn't on the market with straights in the first place. And this was not a choice! It's who I am. Please people. Stop using the word choice!!!! I'm tired of hearing that word!!


Jonas   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I thank God this young lady has stood on her beliefs and not compromised her position on the institution of one of God's greatest gifts MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAN & WOMAN!!!!!!!!


David Weld   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I live in Canada and the world didn't stop turning when gay marriage was legalized. People need to get there mind out if the dark ages and forward with life. If two people love each other, who are we to decide whether they can marry or not. Why should they not be granted the same rights as everyone else?


Angie   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I think being gay should be treated as an illness that someone is born with not enough hormones, rather that an option that is excepted by everyone. If your a diabetic you get insulin. To me if a man is attracted to another man it is hormone related give him testosterone so that he may be a man again. And if a woman is attracted to another woman give her progestrone. I just think gay is wrong it is a medical condition and should be treated as such. I also think younger people and I am only 32 but younger people are being taught to be way to excepting of gay and gay marriage. I dont believe gay people should be mistreated by others I just think they need a Doctor.


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

As a gay man, my only desire is to be able to commit to my future partner and have it be respected equally not only in rights, but in name. The Church can do what it wants, it is of little importance to me, but the government should not participate in this type of discrimination. Also, studies have shown that children raised by same-sex parents turn out just as well as children raised by "opposite" parents.

As for Ann Coulter, I saw her speak in person at my school. She is a comedienne, but not very creative nor funny. She has very little material besides making fun of liberals and non-Christians.


Grace   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Gays should have *all* the rights that married couples have, but I do not want the term "marriage" to be used for their bond. I just don't want the two kinds of companionships to have the same "name", because they are too different.


Rodina Schuurkamp   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I believe that what the bible says about same sex love is a sin and I personaly agree with that however we are not to judge anyone, the bible also says this, I feel that everyone chooses their road in life and will either reap the benefits or suffer the consequences,we need to live and let live and God will do the judging


Dan Hutto   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I totally agree with Miss California and her belief in that marriage should be between a man & woman only.....period..........the Bible clearly states a man with a man is wrong in the eyes of God, and if you believe in Gods word, then you agree.........if you are an atheist, then you don't agree........I will go with Gods word........as do the majority of Americans......Thank you.


Andrea   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Leviticus actually says it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as with a woman. It says nothing about women because the men who wrote the bible at the time viewed women as property. Also, the same chapter says people shouldn't eat pork or shellfish. How can some christians pick and choose their "sins" like that and not appear hypocritical.


Linda Dellarusso   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I agree with Stephen Baldwin in that those of us who believe in traditional marriage are now being persecuted. Why is it OK for celebrities to speak in favor of gay marriage? However, if they speak in favor of traditional marriage they are condemned for offending the gay community?


Cole   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Ok,This is by far the most retarded thing Ive heard.
In face that they had STEVEN Baldwin come on the show saying he was being persecuted for believing in the bible,And how one lying with the same sex is an abomination.
Funny he didnt list any of the other abominations;Disrespecting parents,eatting SHELL FISH,cursing,adultry...ect.
Its funny how people pick and choose things out of the bible THEY want to believe.
And he also made a comment saying "Thats what God Says."
Well that makes him look even more ignorant.
Cause the bible was not WROTE BY GOD,Its a MAN written book.
Some people actually need to sit down and read the bible.


Bill   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

HEY, IF SOMEONE IS OPPOSED TO GAY MARRIGE, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET GAY MARRIED!


Billy Ray   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Very good show tonight! Never let Larry King come back.

This is probably the first time I have watched the show in 15 years.

Some honest debate on issues took place here.


rutledge coleman   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I agree with Mr Baldwin. The bible is very clear that marriage is between a man and woman. Sex between same sex partners is a abomination .


kenn g   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

on gay marriage......thumbs up.But is it really a syntax of words? call it union if that appeases the right , just equalize committment today. If a gay man or woman does evrything a heterosexual does ie: pays taxes, fights for the country and dies for the country, votes..thenwhy shoudn't their committment afford them the same as their heterosexual counterparts. And why should marriage between 2 men or 2 women threaten anyone, unless someone is insecure about their own sexuality. After all there are millions of children worlwide longing for love and they could care less if it comes from Andy and Ann or steve and sam


Gary   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Unfortunately the entire Miss USA organization has an agenda and should stay nuetral wen picking winners


Rita   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Keep that stupid women off the air! Please


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Gay is not a race like Black, White, Chinese, Spanish. There is no Gay DNA or gay gene. It is not scientific. I has to do with choosing to have sex with the same sex. Gay is not a race.


Micah Berul   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

That “holy matrimony,” for many a spiritual undertaking, is regulated by the state has always struck me as demeaning to both the First Amendment’s intended firewall between church and state, as well as to the sacredness of the institution of marriage. The common sense answer to this cultural standoff should be to have the state taken out of marriage altogether – all life partnerships, irrespective of the gender combination, should be regarded as “civil unions” by the state, and if couples are so inclined they are free to take an additional step and have their bond recognized by their house of worship, pursuant to the rules of that religious institution.


Diana Burtis   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

There are so many "sins" that people ignore...why is homosexuality so criticized? Heterosexuality is often brutal when the partners become disenchanted with one another...gay people are less frequently destructive to others than straight people are; and the sins that harm others should be discussed more than gay marriage is; people who lie, murder, & cheat, basically, people who do many things that GOD disapproves of roll merrily along without being torn apart in the media. Greed, gluttony, fornication of ALL types, etc. are crimes, also. Homosexuality is mentioned once! The other sins, especially, disobeying GOD, are continuously mentioned. GOD is real, and obedience is going to be rewarded one day, as GOD has said in His word.


Posey Thomson   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

After listening to the former miss america, Shanna Moekler it sounds as if she is jealous.....she sounds extremely opinionated and kept interrupting through the whole program. I would never vote for her after hearing what she had to say. I think she is fairly attractive but doesn't come close to miss California in beauty. If this is the type of women we choose for our country we are in a worse state than the pandemic.


Marianne from Utah   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

@ Edna. Get real. If you believe in the bible, are you staying outside your home in a tent during mensus? Why not? The bible says women are unclean during this time.


Ladysport   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Heaven forbid, If Miss CA had made the comment she was against
interracial marriages..We all have opinions & that is what makes us
different...


Lola   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Gans who? Never heard of him.


Christian   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

My problem with people who say that gay marriage is wrong because of the bible is that they leave a lot other things out. They choose to follow what they want to follow. Read the whole bible it says the following is o.k.; stoning to death disobedient children, selling your daughter into slavery, stoning to death people who work on Sunday, you can't go near women when on their periods, eating pork is wrong, men with long hair should be ashamed and many more very outdated laws and rules.


Barbara   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Miss California was asked a direct question and she gave a direct, honest answer. She should not have to give an answer that appeases any one group. Just state her honest answer to a question that was obviously asked to cause controversary by a hostile judge.


Judy Vincent   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I think it's just plain stupid to pretend marriage is right between gays, marriage is between a man and a woman and they (gays) can say or do what they want it will never make it right and unless they are atheists they know that!!!


Michael L Destazio   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

When a contestant is asked a question, I feel answering it honestly is more important than the content. If the judge feels that her answer politically offended him, he should have asked a question that he already knew the answer to. This is America – we have a right to express our beliefs or our opinions. This is freedom of speech. If she would have answered to his liking, he would have been OK with the answer. Shame on him.


Darin   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I believe that gays and lesbians all still have the same rights that "married" couples do, however their only argument is over a word thats what their whole fight is. I do believe that they should have all the rights that any other couple should have because they do have their freedom, however (correct me if im wrong), does it not take away from other Christian religions their right to follow the scriptures as they believe them that marriage should be between a man and a woman and allow the government to step in and force the religions to marry gays and lesbians? Oh how sad the day when the government steps in over "politically correct" issues and force them to go against their God and what has been taught in the scriptures for since the beginning!


Charloom Geldenhuis   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

NO for gay marriages.

Thanks Charloom.


Gwendolyn   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Hi Joyce, Love the topic, but come on, don't run the show with a liberal agenda and attitude. Remember, marriage has been over 2,000 years an institution that was designed long before we decided it was right or wrong. Thank God, or you and I might not have been born! How about looking at equal rights for the union of marriage between a man and women. Why is that hard to accept? Yes equal rights for those that are heterosexual. Find another term that represents the same sex union, marriage is taken.


LONGCAT / ANON   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Republicans are the biggest retards i have ever seen christ bush fu*ked up this country even more and obama has to fix it all going to war with iraq was a mistake saddam HAD NO WMD's fancy that bush went to war all because of a wmd throuy christ im glad the Republicans are out of the white house for once all they did was mess up the country thanks you Republican retards


Joshua Zeegers   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

First of all-GOD did not write the Bible! Human beings did and humans are imperfect. I don't think anyone should be able to tell me what my sexual preferences should be. And I would rather have two parents of the same sex more than only having one parent, weather it be a male or female. God loves us all and his unconditional love is all that he wishes each and every one of his children to have. ANd His uncontional love for all of us will some day create... "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." This heaven on earth will never happen with leadership that has an addiction to power and money like the conservative RIght wing fear mongers. Thier spuing of fear and anxiety is bad for the health of this great nation. ANd in itself is raising the cost of healthcare as they speak. My dad is on the verge of suicide because of all the right wing , fear mongering and hateinducing propoganda!!!


Rena Nadeau   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Please tell all the gays and lesbian to mind their own business and leave a marriage to be between husband and wife.
They just make me sick . Tell them to read the bible again and ask God for guidance and maybe they will see the sin they are committing.


Nick Mahadeo   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I would like to say I few things when it come to gay marriages, if GOD intended to have this he would have created (adam and adam) or ( eve and eve) he would have not created both Adam and Eve, We wonder why our world is so screw up these days but noone wants to take responsebility for what we have done we just blame everyone, look at the kids these days the so screw up, but the have better opertunity than we had or our ansister, maybe these people that beleives in gay marriages the should go to their owne planet. Because there is no space for the straight and the gays.


Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

AMEN to you DAN NELSON


Donna Curtis   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

We have become a very perverted nation, homosexuality is wrong. God says its wrong,even though they (Homosexuals) try to convince themselves and others that it is normal. He (God) destroyed a nation for their perverse behavior. Remember Sodom and Gomorah. A place were nothing grows there til this day! They come up with all this flowery terms like Gay and Lesbian. We need to call it exactly as God described it HOMOSEXUALS. Sorry ,can't apoligize for the truth.


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I have to agree with Dennis Miller who said, "These are odd times when Miss California gets harder questions than the President of the United States" and how succint and correct that is!"


matthew - Oklahoma CIty   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Gay marriages are what they are. They are two human beings loving each other enough that they want the responsibility to share their earthly belongings. Also, the choices that these individuals make are theirs and no one elses and if we as a community of a sovern nation are niave enough to believe that this is a sin. then lets remember to one big issue at hand. IT IS NOT US TO JUDGE OR ASSUME JUDGEMENT. This is the job of GOD. all I can say is that if you (the public opposer of gay marriages) and all the politicans in this country should really look deep into themselves before placing JUDGEMENT on a sexual orientation.


Dave Masias   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Mr Baldwin is right we are persecuted because we believe that marriage is between a man and a woman wether they like it or not the world was created by God and place Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. This society is so lost we have lost our values and forgot how the US was founded by moral relegious people who believed in a God who gave us the Ten Commandments. That is why we are in a world of crisis even with Top CEOS from Harvard running corporate America we are still a bankrupt Nation. A big NO to Gay marriage and start getting America back to good morale values.


Art   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I am against same sex marriage. I believe a child needs a dad and a mom. One does not have to be an Christian to recognize that marriage is between a man and a woman.


Timothy Budd   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I think Carrie is very brave and should be given her due. She should be allowed to excercise her freedom of speech!

However, at the end of the day, I don't pay anyone else's bills nor does anyone pay mine. Why should I or anyone else care about who someone ends up in bed with when it is all said and done?

That is why it is called the United States of America!


adonijah   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

she said "with no offense".the truth is an offense and not a sin,who ever feels offended its because they are guilty of an act why does gays feel so offended when they are accused ,if they didnt feel guilty they would live free with no care of peoples opinion


Joel   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Government should stay out of our lives. We pay the government to protect us from harm, not to tell us what marriage is and what we should or should not do in privacy. Also, Man not God wrote the bible. Those of us who believe this should not be ruled over by those who believe the opposite.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

What in the world has happened to this wonderful Christian country? We kicked God out. Gay marriage is just another example of...."If it feels good, do it". Sick.


David   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

@Ann

How can you tell anyone they should be interested in religion? On what grounds? What makes you the authority?

If you say 'god', I just won't respond... or at least until you can prove to me he a) exists, b) has appeared to you and c) chosen you to be his messenger.


laura randazzo   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

are we changing the dictionary now " marriage is a social decision made between a man and a woman to live together as husband and wife" if we start changing the meaning of words, we can kiss all our "laws" goodbye..........

Laura


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I wonder if the far left CNN network will allow any of my anti gay marriage posts to go through.

Hmmm...


George Smith   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Carrie Prejean's position is the same as Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, George Bush, and John McCain and 53% of Californian's in 2008 election. Her position is mainstream.


pat matthews   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman – no probs with a he and he or a she and she – that is a relationship – not a marriage


tee   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Romans 1:26 For this reason God gave them up for vile passions, For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.

Romans 1:27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shamful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

God loves everyone but, he HATES sin. He has given us his laws to follow IF we want to escape his judgements. Again, God loves guy people and he wants them to turn away from their sins.


Caitlin   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Who is to say that gay marriage would raise unhealthy families? I have never heard such proof that confirms this. There is no such thing as "sactity of marriage" soley because of the legality of divorce! Everyone has a constitutional right to happiness, and everyone deserves these equal rights! Let everyone live their personal as they wish!


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Daemien May 1st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

james. the country was founded with god in mind. thus that is why it is on our money and in the constitution, if it was not then explain to me why we even have god put on our money and in our constitution.

Because there are alot of deluded people in America who have been subjected by the wealthy religious proseletizers, and for no other reason.


Clare   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Marriage, according to Webster's New World Dictionary, refers to the


miguel   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Marriage was concieved and has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman.Now suddenly,here comes these gay folks who,not only want to redifine the concept of marriage but,also are want to force people to change the rules to suit them.No way can this be fair.If you chose to live a lifestyle that is not traditional,then you can't expect to enjoy the same previliges as those of us who have always chosen to live by the rules.


Laura Baldwin   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Though I don't agree with Miss California's statements I also don't agree with the statements of Steven Baldwin. It was man not God that wrote the Bible and therefore it is subjective as all writers put their own perspective into things. I know because I have read the bible and though all of the disciples write of the same event each is different because it is written from the perspective of writer and not God himself. Gay marriage does not in anyway effect those who are not gay, we each answer for our own actions, Mr. Baldwin and Ms. California should concern themselves with their own affairs.


Pat   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

If you beleive in God, then you need to accept his definition. He Created Eve not Perez to be Adam's companion. If you believe in evolution, look at the rest of the animal world. How many same -sex animals do you know that are couples?


al dean 88   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I have to give up my life at this point because my parents said that they will die if I even date a guy. I don't get how someone only being told that their view about gay marriage is wrong is at all bad compared to the extreme life altering criticism that gays get.


Paul from Texas   May 1st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Poor Steven Baldwin. So misinformed; so judgmental; too bad he doesn't have enough sense to keep his mouth shut on topics he knows absolutely nothing about.


Paul   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Im watching your show and its almost over. Im a gay man and have had no love interest with women my whole life. Ive had 2 relationships with men that spanned more than 13yrs. Even though they didnt work out, I (we) would have love to have been married. Its a shame the laws are what they are in these times.

Paul- NY


Nick   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Did Larry King with his statement that this is a "double tragedy" just equate the death of man (Dann Gans) with the fact that Larry's wife wasn't able to perform her act tonight?


l.christian   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

marriage is for a man & woman. two gays man or woman
raising chrildren might get more gays . monkey see monkey do.
ellen , rosey are sicko"s


bobby   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

let's just not forget what happend to the nations and tribes in the history of all religions and faith the one they got involve in same sex.
If you don't belive those examples then I think you don't belive any religion and your faith is questionalble.


Jean (Florida)   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

They shouldn't have let a majority of people "straight people" decide whether gays should get married or not. If that was the case for interacial mariage, it would have been rejected because the majority of americans (white americans) would have denied this right to the minority (blacks). I feel bad that black people already forgot that they have been rejected in the past just because they were black. Now they are rejecting gays just because they are gays. What a lack of memory!


Amanda   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

How are we to move forward in our Global presense with such backward ignorance still present in our "united" country? It makes me sick to think people "like this" really exist and I think our future countrymen will look back on this "slavery over love" completely appalled by their prior choice to dictate the life between two people. All morals evolve over time, it is inevitable to happen.


Scott Stey   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

If marriage between only a man and a woman is the saving grace of our society, why is our divorce rate in excess of 50% and our children are turning to drugs for relief?


TED   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I'm 110 % against gay marriage... In fact I'm tired of being constantly bombarded with the gay issue... I can't watch television for more than 5 minutes without the issue coming up – just like all the Swine Flu propoganda....If gays want to ether, be my guest, I just don't want to hear about them 24 hours a day – the country is falling apart, the government is giving bailouts to corporations that should be filing for bankcruptcy, we're spending billions in a couple wars, people are losing their jobs by the thousands, retirement savings are slashed or gone, etc...Let's place Gay marriage where it belongs on the list of import issues – near the bottom........


Josh   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I think most of the gay community would agree that the title of marriage isn't as important as repping the same benifets as married couples. We don't tell you what rights you do and don't deserve. The bible also teaches us to treat your neighbor how you would want to be treated. Nobody has the right to pass judgement against anyone else. Homosexual couples have brought down birthrates in that group, and we foster alot of the kids you guys should have never had in the first place. We are the answer to global warming and overpopulation. GET USED TO IT!


James   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I am Not gay. But I find it funny when people say they are fighting for the sanctaty or marrage. by preventing a marrage that probably has a better chance of surviving then 50% of Marrages between Men and women. sweep around your own back door before you try to sweep around other's.


Tina   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

You should ask these people who are so against gay marriage what effect do they think their nasty comments have on children of gay marriage. Maybe if they stopped to think prior to opening their mouths, they would put their fear aside and consider others.


Folu Ijagbulu   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I am surprised the freedom of speech does not allow a person to speak without us making our own followup opinion stating whether we agreed or not


Marianne from Utah   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Who is Danny Gans? Never heard of him.


Aimee   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

First id like to say, the disciples wrote the bible! and love is love no matter if its a guy and guy or girl and girl or ever a guy and girl. book should not tell you who to marry! if the bible told you to jump off a building would you? cause i know i wouldnt.


Winston   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

You cannot simply put no offense in front of your words and expect that to suddenly make your words non-offensive. If someone said,"No offense, but in my country it is ok to behead a man who trims the hair around his temples." or "No offense, but I would like to sell my daughter into slavery", that would not suddenly make their actions legal or less offensive. By the way, both of those things are fully sanctioned by the Bible...

It is fine to stand up for your beliefs, but when those beliefs are completely offensive to those around you, don't cry when others disagree and take offense.


Pam Buckley   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Ann Coulter doesn't back down, and I support her all the way! When will true feminists admit they are only for women who think like they do! Coulter rocks!


TheSharp1s   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

So if we allow marriage between 2 men or 2 women, why not 3 men or 3 women? When does it stop?


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

God wrote the Bible through men inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is God's Holy Word. Billy Baldwin is right.


E. Margaret Pedersen   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I wonder how many people are aware that homosexuality was
considered a psychiatric disorder and was in the manual listing it
as a disorder till about the late 60's. Most cultures including ours
have considered it an aberration until recently. Most cultures,
including ours, has considered marriage between a man and
woman an unquestioned given until fairly recently. One goal of
marriage is to have children and children grow best with a mother
and father. For this reason, I believe public policy should be
focused on what is best for children. I think it is very selfish not to do
so – in spite of the push for political correctness


dani   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I don't see what the problem is with two people who are commited to each other shouldn't have the right to marry. The people who are on the show who are against it should not make comments about a man and a woman are the best to raising children. Today's children are not being raised as great as they make it sound. Just look at how neglected they are! Look at the divorce rate. Look at the abuse children suffer at the hand of these so called loving couple. But this has nothing to do with marriage. Our country is talking about morals? Pretty strange! We are far from being a moral country. Young people and old are living together instead of marriage. Why is it wrong then for two people who want to be married be denied the right? Who are they hurting? Marriage has been hurt enough. Maybe we need to put more restrictions on divorce then!


Colin Lambert   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I don't understand why our society is so caught up over gay marriage , I don't see this debate going on in any other part of the world .
Same sex union is not marriage and should remain that way.


Larry Michelotti   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Marriage is a legal contract and a personal right. People are married by a Justice of The Peace all the time without any religious content. Religion is part of marriage by personal choice. Therefore, opposing gay marriage on the basis of religious beliefs is a personal choice. If a person believes the Bible teaches that gay marraige is a sin, then "They" shouldn,t enter into a gay marriage. But to impose their religious sanctions on others "personal rights" is irrational.


Pat B.   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

This world is so sick .Any time you think two people of the same sex should be married. People always talking about love. Love donot make it right.If I love a married man, do that make it right. NO, it donot.


Ken   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Allow gay marriage? What's next, polygamy?


Lisa   May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Joy, I have to hand it to you. You are such a gracious host to sit and listen to Ann Coulter and her idiotic " yakkity yak " on subjects that she has absolutely no real understanding or valid point of view. And as for the Rev. who says that she believes that God ordained marriage between two men or two women just because they "love" each other is crazy.

Keep up the good work Joy. You are a real professional.


vikki bryan   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Nice to see CNN invite a conservative to offset a liberal. Now that is a more responsible postion for a 'news media' to take. Thanks


Jo Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

The Bible is "man-made." I don't have much use for it.


Jacob Conway   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I want to make two points:

The argument made above, "the majority of Americans agree with Miss California". doesn't carry a lot of weight for me or anyone familiar with American history. At one time the majority of Americans thought it should be illegal for inter racial marriages to be illegal. At another point the majority of Americans thought a women shouldn't have the right to ask for divorce. At another point in history the majority of Americans thought it was a-ok to lock Americans of Japanese backgrounds into concentration camps. In short just because the majority of Americans think it is ok to deny same sex couples the right to marry doesn't mean it is ok to deny it nor does it mean that, that denial will be on the right side of history.


Neil Schneider   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Marriage is a license of the state, therefore no one can be denied. Neil in Phx


Paul Lombardo   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

The M.A. Pageant should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a question in the first place. Is the pageant now playing a glorified game of "Stump the Dummy" with these girls by asking questions that cannot be answered without offending a particular demographic? Are we only interested in seeing them squirm while they figure out a way to be neutral? In the end we have learned nothing about their character unless one of them decides to be honest, God forbid. I commend Miss CA for her courage to stand by her convictions. Miss America Pageant, you got what you asked for.


Johan Snijckers   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

why would gay marriage change anything to "traditional" marriage? on the contrary, it should be seen as a celebration of this institution, that also loving male-male, female-female couple want to adhere to it. Other points-
-what right do those opposed to gay marriage have to decide what other people can do or not?
-about the Bible – cool, the bible defines it as male-female....but I'm sure you are aware that marriage is also a civil institution – so why should the bible's definition should be pushed onto everybody, included people of other religions or without religeous believes?
-how come that America, land of freedom is becoming the country of intollerance, hate, discrimination? hmmm, sounds like America aims to have a christian version of sharia-law installed – scary...


Jill   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Ann Coulter repulses me... I think she trades on her beauty and intellect for shock value and sales of her books. I never thought I would say this, but she is right about the "flu" issue. I'm choking as I click on "submit comment" because I agree with her. Maybe she'll move over from the "dark side" and use her intellegence to focus on the real issues.


That nguyen   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I believe marriage is man and woman ,nothing else


Pieter   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

In my country South Africa, gay marriages are legal and the traditional family factions as before. Fathers drink, cheat on their wives as well as some mothers. Some do take good care of their children, others not. Somebody must take care of the children. Nothing has changed. I know wonderful gay people that are caring very well for adopted or own children. They are no saints either, and fits perfectly in the definition of family. I don't know why the fuss? Just because a book written by a group of nomads states that being gay is a sin? Please, grow up!


Mary Franklin   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

How odd that people supporting marriage as being between a man and a woman feel persecuted. As far as I know no one has taken away their right to live as they believe. No one has said that they cannot enjoy marriage as being between a man and a woman. How arrogant to claim that they are being persecuted and then say gay marriage is wrong. This is a big world with many different people, all thinking, living, and looking at these issues in unique ways. How sad to say there is only one way to be married and then try to legislate that way for everyone. God made us all so different. Why would God expect us all to live and behave the same?

Mary Franklin
Sacramento


Joshua Zeegers   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

AND NO I AM NOT GAY


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

James, are you referring to Republicans when you refer to "deluded people in America?" or yourself? You're an idiot.
I still have yet to see any examples of intelligent Democrats...


Silver Spring   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Marriage is a civil right...no matter how many times you have a religious ceremony, it is NOT legal.....all AMERICANS should have the same civil rights....the separation of church and state is forgotten by the consevatives who should be more concerned about the bad hetero marriages.


jean watt   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Miss California needs to "live" some life before making judgments and comments on other people's life styles. We are all raised with familial beliefs, and often differ or change our views on many matters drawn from our own personal life experiences, don't we?


miss dee   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Everybody has a right to their own beliefs and opinions. The bible should never be conisdered when it comes to marriage. When two people love each other that all that matters. People in a straight marriage stand by the bible but beat their children or cheat on their spouse. How can you put down a man and man or woman and woman for doing nothing more than loving each other.?? that girl did nothing wrong. she was sharing her opinion and no one should look stick their nose at her not even gay people. I am personally straight and i feel this way. Everyone knows that people have their opinions and that should be the end of it. She didnt mean it in a harmfull way. she was asked a question and was honest about it.


Fran   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Whether it is Miss California or anyone in this country, you should be able to voice your opinion, pro or con on any subject without being savagely criticized, as she has been.


showmestate gal   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Gay Marriage is like the abortion issue both sides are very quick to being upset about their the defense of their side! These should not be government issues except in regards to the Health of All and Medical issues.

Let Go & Let God sort out them out it is in his Judgment (Pay scale)

The Bible is story the of God but done the books are done by many different translations & Languages, religious beliefs and views.
The story tellers Matthew-Mark-Luke & John reported on what each saw and believed interpretation.


Donna Scott   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I agree with Miss California and have a lot of respect for her for standing up for what she believes in. A marriage, according to the Bible, is between a man and woman, and I could never be convinced to believe anything differently.


Mike   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I'm commenting on gay marriage and the Bible. If you read Romans chapter 1, it clearly says that men had lust for other men, and women had lust for other women... Romans 1:27 says ... "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. Verse 1:28... And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the women burned in their lust one toward another.. men with men working that which is unseemly".

If God considers this to be a vile affection according to the book of Romans, how difficult is it to see that homosexuality is against what God has planned? This is a direct quote out of the Bible. If people say they believe the Bible, or claim to go by what God teaches, how can they discount something that is condemned directly in the Bible? The only answer I can arrive at is that people CHOOSE to believe what they want to believe. And if they do that, they shouldn't be saying they are following God. Romans 1 clearly spells out that this behavior is against God and Miss California is exactly correct in her belief.


Sherry, N. Calif.   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Legalize G.M but call it something different. Sick of the agruments. Everyone has a right to their opinion. If they are for it so be it,against it so be it. Move forward. Not everyone is Christian.


joyce   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Oh my goodness, who is stephen baldwins pr firm, they should not let him on a show where smart people watch, or maybe they're really smart, because i'm sittin here quite enterained, does his opinion really mean anything, really?........lol


Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

to Christian who says "My problem with people who say that gay marriage is wrong because of the bible is that they leave a lot other things out....."

If you actually read the bible then you would know that what you are saying is from the OLD Testament....Jesus changed it all in the NEW testament...but I am sure you haven't bothered to actually read the entire bible.


Lisa   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

What is going on with the people of this world? Sin is running rapid & God's wrath is on America...gay marriage is NOT the will of the almighty God...READ THe BIBLE... it's VERY clear!!!


Brandon Carwile   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Hello Joy,

First of all hello to you, I love you and think you are great! Concerning gay marriage I just have to say that I am a young gay man and honestly I don't see the big to do over all of it. I regularly hear arguments against it using the Bible such as Mr. Baldwin's. My thoughts are if you feel that its a sin then don't do it. The bible also says not to judge and to love thy neighbor. Its God's place to judge us sooooo accept every body and try your hardest to live your own life in such a way that God will look favorably on you. Let me worry about me and Perez worry about Perez and so on.

I'm sure that God wouldn't look favorably on a lot that goes on in Hollywood that Stephen Baldwin has taken part in at some point or another like womanizing, drug use, cursing, love scenes between people that don't love each other or are married.

Anyway...just my thoughts.

Thanks,
Brandon


Pattie   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Some people will do anyhting for money and attention. I just looked up Ann Coulter on Wikepedia and I am disgusted that people actually pay this woman who crudely speaks without thinking or caring how she affects the public. Gays, jews, democrats, even her own gender are fodder for her paycheck.


annick   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

That previous miss USA/Director is such a low class example for her pageants. And that guy from the jury that was cursing on Internet. They are dragging the standard of the contest in the mud. Just leave the girl alone, she spoke her mind. Move on


Spencer   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I agree with Chanel


Richard C   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

To fix what my husband, Brandon W. was trying to say is that the gay marriage issue of today is no different than the white vs. black issue of the 1960's and before. You can not have America and an isolation among a group of people who are expected to live the American Dream. Also, Daniel Baldwin or whichever Baldwin brother that was made a statement that God wrote the Bible but actually God's Disciples wrote the bible. Google it baby.


larry   May 1st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

we are being forced to accept gay marriage in connecticut.
The bill was passed without a general election of voter approval.
are the supreme court judges in this state gay themselves for not
allowing voter approval or at least recommended the issue go before
the voters.
The morals of our country are slowly decaying and will go the same
path as the Roman empire


pete   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

What we need is a giant clost and put all these gays back in there!!!!


Canada   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Gay people have just as much right as everyone else to get married, why is it such a big deal?


Nick Lucas   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Just a comment on gay marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman, plain and simple. If you're a believer in God, there's no arguement. God made Eve for Adam not Steve!


haley   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

can't we all just meet in the middle and compromise? why does it have to be black or white, conservative, liberal.. whatever just call it a civil union


Lisa   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

They asked for her personal opnion and she gave it. I think she showed courage and is to be commened for stating her true beliefs on this issue , especially on a topic that is so controversial in some circles. When did possessing traditional christian values violate free speech?


penny greer   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

On the subject of gays: It is terrible the usa padgent is letting
perz hilton get away with trashing the usa padgent the way
he did. He should not be able to get a way with it . Its in medical
books gays are mentally ill, look at perz hilton, he looks mentally
ill. No, gays should not marry. They just want to be a minority,
instead they need long term treatment. I can't tell you how they
have disappointed their parents.

penny
tennessee


T Elle   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

This subject is totally absurd, all I can see is hate in reverse. They have now been given their freedom to be themselves and what do they do? Come out in a immature fashion. That guy is obnoxiously childish in all of his mannerisms of not getting the answer that he was looking for. Hence, be careful of what you ask because you will get an answer whether you like it or not. The answer given was Miss Prejean's way of life, opinion, logic. She didn't bring to attention how he wants to be like her (Parrot) in every way and he is definitely male. It might be more digestable if the males would be males and females be females and lived their lifestyles, it just seems odd that one wants to become the other and then say that they are gay (happy). You can't be gay when you are not happy with who you are as a human. If you are a man who desires men or a woman who desire women, be a man and a woman about it!!! Grow up, your arguments are old as Soddam and Gomorrah.


Nancy   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I believe it's no one's business who one marries, as long as they're not doing any harm to anyone. Please don't impose your beliefs on anyone else – they are yours – and this is a democracy with separation of church and state. These are everyday people living everyday lives and you make them sound like ax murders or rapists. There are plenty of examples of heterosexuals doing terrible things – is that because they have a marriage of one man and one woman?


j.nash   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

hilton should have never been a judge, because he is gay and do not like women, period


John   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Man has always been looking for ways to do as he wishes and take no responsibility.
Marriage is about stable mom and dad raising their kids with strong a foundation.
God marries the couple (same sex can't couple) not the government.


Marianne   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Gay marriage is a perversion of nature. These people are seriously ill and need help. Calling it an alternative lifestyle is a pathetic attempt to justify a completely unnatural behavior, and in no way addresses the problems that cause it.


Chanel   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

If you are for gay marriage, please vote on the main Larry King page. We are losing


tommy   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Mr Nelson says the us was created on cristian values. What about the killing of Native Americans, and slavery.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Allie May 1st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

James, if you’re wanting to see aggressive, keep it up. Or better yet, drive to Nashville (yes, I’m also a fellow Tennessean) and I’ll give you my opinion in person. You have not begun to see aggressive and I’m ending my part of our little debate here.

Or better yet, you can drive to Idaho and I'll embarrass you here too.


tom porter   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

C'mon.....marriage doesn't work for over 50% of straight people
I kid all my gay friends about lining up to buy a yugo....lol

Gay marriage should simply be the celebration of two peoples love for one another

Any true christian who denies another happiness is a fool and deserves to be judged as such

the bible was written when the earth was being populated....try to evolve a little

the right wing fanatics are just knuckle draggers who need a hobby


Fatimah   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Those who are against gay marriage need to learn to articulate their argument better. Sexuality is a complex issue. The standard for sexual behavior is a committed relationship (marriage) between a man and woman. When someone is nurtured in an unhealthy way this can lead to heterosexual promiscuity, homosexuality, and other unhealthy and risky sexual behavior. Please read up on this issue, it is so clear.


Dalex   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

God says thou shall not judge.Let everybody,both gay and ungay continue in their own acts.One thing is certain.Judgement.God will judge accordingly on the judgement day.But let gay society remember that most people in their circle are naive and without knowledge. I pray God to open their eyes and heart.


Jasmine Kenny   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

It's a shame the big deal being made regarding gay marriage. I think a marriage should be between two adults who love each other. It was only a few decades ago that marriage between a black women and a black man was considered a sin. Stupid!!!! Yes!!!!! But a definite truth in this great country's shameful history. The women from the organization supporting the marriage between man and woman quoted that she was looked at as a kkk member. A bigot is, as a bigot does. Shame on her. Far more crimes to women and children are done by heterosexual men. Instead of protecting holy matrimony, how about protecting, those who need to be protected.

Nicki, New Haven, CT


shan gentry   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

In addition, you might consider my very intelligent, beautiful and kind daughter 's comment when she 'came out' in her teens..."Mom, don't you think I'm smart enough to not CHOOSE this for myself?"......She understand the UGLINESS in the world toward gays.....Very clear to me that it is not usually a CHOICE! I encourage her to be HERSELF and support her totally!! She is a beautiful person inside and out. I am blessed.


Ron G   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

It seems that unless you harbor the same opinions as the liberal left, you don't have a right to your opinion......

I don't believe that gay marriage should be permitted.....but if two men or women want to live together, they could live together without legal sanction.

When gay couples can show they can reproduce, then they can be married.


P.K. Machu   May 1st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I am a Christian and believe God loves everyone and offers forgiveness of sin through Jesus Christ. We are all sinners and when we sin with our bodies it hurts us emotionally, physically, and spiritually. Only God can heal us and forgive us.


Ann   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Ann Coulter,

Please tell Joy Baher she doesn't know what she's talking about when she's clapping her trap about illegal immigration.

Illegals need jobs so they come to the U.S.A. That's understandable.

U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants illegals here to drive down wages.

Profits are privatized and costs of illegal immigration are socialized – costs borne by U.S. taxpayers include –

healthcare
public education
housing

Joy has no idea what she's talking about when she calls Lou Dobbs a racist (and by inference his fans)

Lou was the first talk show host to suggest sending the Mexican government flu vaccinations and surgical masks.

Tell Joy to put a lid on it when she doesn't know what she's talking about – which from her current gig on the View – is most of the time!


Mary Strain   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I'm not sure CNN is capable of reporting objectively on this issue. Several of the anchors and reporters seemed to actively involved in advocacy for gay agenda issues. How much fairness can we expect from a network that airs the drag queen shoe drop every New Years Eve?


Mark 4rm Louisiana   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

One more thing....Gay Rights cannot be compared to interracial couples, women voting, or especially the Civil Rights Movement. I am a young African-American and it enrages me that people compare the Gay Rights Movement to the Civil Rights Movement because my ancestors had no choice to be Black but gay people have a choice to be gay. There is no scientific proof that there is a "gay gene"....whats wrong with the world


Ben Freeland   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

SAM Who the hell are you????? Are you insane????


Eric   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Since the religious groups want to be involved with political issues they should be required to pay taxes, then lets see how much they want to preach.


V.Oliver   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

We must make some allowances for Maggie Gallagher as her age makes it difficult to overcome her own conditioning in the form of bigotry. I feel sorry for a young woman like Miss California who will look back on her comments in ten or twenty years and weep for the bigot she use to be. I have hope for her enlightenment. And did this Baldwin brother graduate from high school? For those that believe in the Bible-what happend to all that Christrian love and non-judgement?


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

lets face it legally allowing gay marriege: pandora box opens...

polygamy ( with rights and benefits)-its is now a human rights issue and not a moral/legal issue

future prediction: emancipated children: marriage to young teens in gay or otherwise traditional marriage. it too can be seen as a human rights issue. Powerful, rich paedophiilacs have been lobbying the APA to have the diagnosis removed from the DSM IV...

50 years from now-marriage to robots and cloned people...where does it end..?

Nothing , nothing is sacred anymore-the "Human right" to a sense of entitlement is all that matters..

I may feel equally entitled to get a job as a high fashion modelor a firefighter-but that does not mean I am equal or appropriate for either job. Yes gay people should have rights to benefits of a partner-however, If I live with my mother and support her and she is my principal relationship-shouldn't I be entitled to the same rights and benefits as a gay couple-who just met and hitched in vegas..."equal" does not mean that we are the same nor does it mean I am entitled to anything and everything.


Tim in Houston   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

If homosexuallity is normal, how come it does not exist in the animal world? The naure of things is a male/female union which perpetuates its kind. It doesn't have anything to do with religion but the basis of existance. So, that said, let those with the proclivity be homosexual but DO NOT allow them to reproduce through ARTIFICIAL insemination, DO NOT allow them to adopt. Let them be as they say they are naturally (since it is not a "choice" they made but they way GOD made them), with NO ASSISTANCE TO REPRODUCE. If you can't do it as Mother Nature intended, then it just don't happen!

That said, I have many, MANY friends that are gay, both male and female, and for the most part, they are similar to Muslims which in today's world, there are different factions. Those that practice their faith and beliefs without impacting or degrading those of different or opposing faiths. They life their lives as they choose. Those of the gay community that are always "stirring the pot" are the "radical" side of this part of our society. Personally, I believe those that are "gay" are still searching or have something missing in their life that has drawn them to the controversial side of human behavior. This lifestyle has existed since biblical times or there would never have been any mention of it in the first place. So, what difference does it make, let those that are gay, be gay, let those that are straight, be straight. We can coexist, but once again, to reproduce and continue the human race, let nature take it's course, not science.


Brian   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Anyone against gay marrige, please explain to me a few things.

How can a homosexual have anything to do with you, much less impact adversly, or be an afront to YOUR way of life?

Why should government have ANYTHING to do with marrige? And I'm not just asking about homosexual unions, but hederosexual unions as well.

I'll just go ahead and answer those for you...

What other consenting adults do with their lives that does not consist of infringing upon your rights (or the rights of any others), is none of your business. Secondly, marrige should be nothing more than RECOGNIZED by government, as it is a HOLY union, and we are a secualar state.

Miss California is finding herself ostrasized because what she is the basis of bigotry. I garuntee you that hiding behind a religion for the purpose of hate and/or uneaqual rights is not what any prophet had in mind when conceiving his religion, if he truly is a phrophet and messiah.


Will   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

As a homosexual male I can honestly say I do not agree with same-sex marriage...however I am alarmed by how up in arms people are getting about the topic lately especially about the comments Miss. California made...Personally, if you don't agree with gay marriage then don't marry someone of the same sex. People are getting all upset about homosexuals wanting to get married saying they have to protect the sanctity of marriage. If people really wanted to maintain the sanctity of marriage then they should focus on banning divorce. However ,She has a right to her opinion and whether people like it or not she voiced it.


Rob A   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I feel Miss California's statement was intended to express that although she doesn't support, we live in a country where we have a choice to either engage in same sex marriage or not. Obviously we don't live in a country where same sex marriage is an option. Gay people just want the same freedoms of straight people. It seems pretty straight forward that opposition to same sex marriage is conflict of church and state. Those who don't support gay marriage base this on their faith. Not everyone believes in God – why should they have to follow a law that is faith based? For the record, I do believe in God and struggle with being gay and what the bible says. Never the less, I am gay, I am here, and there are a lot of people just like me who pay taxes and who deserve the same rights as all Americans.


Evans   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Miss Carlifornia just went for what she believed in.She couldn't be more candid.You don't expect her to be hypocritical and compromise her personnal ideologies because of her position.She's shown how bold and confidential she could be as a young lady.


Siobhan Ogilvie   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

To whomever wrote animals are not gay – there are instances of animals – particularly penquins but other animals as well that mate for more then just breeding but for companionship as well.


Caitlin   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Who is to say that gay marriage would raise unhealthy families? I have never heard such proof to confirm this. There is no such thing as
"santity of marriage" solely because of the legality of divorce! Everyone has a constitutional right to happiness, and everyone deserves these equal rights! Let everyone live their personal lives as they wish–and stop worrying about their lives, and be more concerned with your own!


Allie   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

You are not even worth the time or effort.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Marriage is between man and woman according to the Bible . It is spelled out very clearly. I have read it through many times and have never read that two people of the same sex can be married.


worried   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

What I am about to say is more of a question then a statement. If we allow the defention of marriage to change what else "Will Change?"
If we say that marriage is made up of a man and women but add a subtext allowing addition types of union,"What would we or Could we allow?"
IE
A union between ??


Torli   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I know that Mr. Baldwin is right, in Romans 1:26-27 God openly states His opinion of homosexuality.


dorin dragomir   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

let's get someting straight.....
GOD did not wrot the bible....so stop puting your own belives on others
Most people have not a clue Who He is or what HE is...
God is Love ,God is unity ..bible is divisive
we should respect and accept everybody...
As an individual everybody shold merry who ever they choose...and no one should be discriminated against ....


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I think Miss California is absolutely RIGHT maybe we should read the BIBLE IT PLAINLY SAYS A MAN WITH A MAN IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE EYES OF GOD SO ALSO FOR A WOMAN MY THINKING IS THIS IS WORSE THAN SIN!!!


Marilyn Gillespie   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Marriage is to bring people together to procreate. A man and a women have the puzzle pieces to do so. Not a man on man or women on women. Being gay is a consious choice lifestyle that is not natural. Evolution of the two sexes, male and female, is a complex thing that is there for a reason, to procreate.
Go for a walk in nature and you'll see male and female deer, male and female ducks etc. together. Not Donald and Donald duck or Bambie and Bambie. Their brains can't consiously choose to go against nature like humans can.
Gay is a choice, not born with, lifestyle.
I believe families and marriage are created to support nature and evolution. Man and women. Gays are choosing to be different and should have unions if they want but not change the natural state of marriage between a man and a women.


Julieanne   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Ann Coulter. You are the perfect example of how someone that is bright and intelligent can be so misguided. Please "check your self before you wreck your self", or suffer the fate of becoming an Ann Hannity.


sandy bailey   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Hi Larry,

I just have to comment on the Miss California controversy. I myself am a gay woman and have been with my partner for over 11 years. I have to say i completely disagree and i am angered over Parez the judges comments and behavior against Miss Califorinia. I believe this is the land of the free & the country of free speech and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I really want you to know that everyone in the gay community do not behave in such a disrespectful manner to another human being. Miss California has my full support & my respect for giving her truthful opinion & not betraying her beliefs.


Hermoine Copkov   May 1st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I totally agree with Miss California and Stephen Baldwin, that marriage
should be between a man and a woman. God intended it that way. He
said so in His word (The Bible) He didn't create Adam and Steve. Instead He created Adam and Eve. Look at history He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for the very same reason. No excuses !!!


donald   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

marriage should be between a man and a woman. but we know as adults, where known to do stranger things than same sex marraige. she had a right to her opion. perez needs to understand that.


Barbara Hutcherson   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

I understand that Miss CA, has a role to play for society because of what she is representing.. But she was asked a question, and she gave an honest answer. I would be proud to have such an honest person to represent my State. If she had agreed to supporting gay marriage, those who are anti-gay marriage would probably try to protest for her to lose her position as Miss CA also. We are living in a Country where all citizens are suppose to have the freedom of speech.. I HOPE this country was not built on a lie..


Lisa "Mo" Lewiston Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

I wish all the people would stop trying to force gays to live by straight rules. Everyone wants to be loved as well as love. Everyone is so worried that gay marriages will cause the ALREADY HIGH DIVORCE rate to go up. Everyone talks about how it is against God's word to lie with another of the same sex. But it also talks about those who commit adultery. But do you see us putting these people on tv and telling them they do not deserve to be married. NO WE DO NOT!! we send them to counseling and let them continue on with their marriages. So tell me again why people say they do not want GAYS TO GET MARRIED!! Sounds like to me that the straights in this world have already screwed up the sanctity of marriage. Let the gays of this country see what we can do to help it.

I have proudly been with my life partner for 5 years we just had our own private ceremony back in August in front of 2 of our 3 children. We love our family and we proudly take our 6yr old to school everyday and raise her in a home with love and honesty. She knows she has 2 moms but she also knows her father and talks to him regularly. She has other male figures in her life. She has 3 boys friends as of now. I do not push her in either direction. We let our kids chose for themselves. I hope they are not gay, only because I do not want them to have to go through what me and my life partner of 5 years have had to go through to be together. The first 4 years we had as much as 3000 miles between us but we still made it. Now we live in the same home and it is wonderful. I have been married and so has she. We are both happier now then either of us have in our lives. She is 46 and I am 37. We are truly upset we can not get married and it be legal.


Jolene   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

I find it interesting how Christians quote the bible in stating that God says homosexuality is a sin. The bible states in the book of Leviticus (18:22) but the bible also says that a man should not have sexual relations with a woman during the uncleanliness of her monthly period (Leviticus 18:22). Why is it that Christians pick and choose sins? You don't see them protesting the latter? Did we not have similar equal rights struggles with women and African Americans? When will we learn, everyone is equal and should have equal rights!


Margaret Swindells   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Gay marriage is wrong. Get over it. It is abnormal. Stephen Baldwin is correct when he says the bible calls it sin when two women or two men lie down together. If you have a problem with that then talk to God. He laid down the rules. Fathers are supposed to play a specific part in raising children. Not two mothers or two fathers.


B. Stovall   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Mr. Perez instead of thinking about the true essence of the pagent and its purpose has used the questioning of Ms. California as a platform to promote his personal agenda regarding Gay Marriage which I think is very unfortunate to Miss Prejean. I do not feel that the office of a judge in a pagent should be used to promote self-evident causes or opinions.

Ms. California has answered the question as she felt was fact and true and is the truth according to the Holy Bible that marriage is the union between a man and a woman for the purpose of being fruitful and multiplying and God's original plan. We need to stick with the issue at hand of the fact that now the Pagent expects their participants to answer questions and lie about what is in their hearts in order to win a pagent or scripted jargon of "wanting world peace".

If that is the case, we should offer a Miss America Kaplan's Prep Test, or devise a Beauty Pagent LSAT/GMAT test taking seminars on how to effectively answer pagent questions since it is self evident it is not about what the contestant honestly feels, but about lies and deceptions in order to be "politically correct".


Sarah Cummings   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Gays do not "decide" to be gay, they are born gay. To discriminate against them is to discriminate against anyone that is born with an affliction, or abnormality that sets them apart from a "normal" person. Anyone who does not know this is totally uneducated and uniformed in regards to the actual physiological makeup of people who are gay. Read medical journals....get educated!


Joyce M. Bryson   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

The two laldies screaming at each other tonight must be
auditioning for Fox. As a Christian I don't want anyone with their boobs & buns
hanging out , on National T.V. to advise me on what's right or wrong!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Rick your half correct! Yes Liberals are a threat & so is the RIGHT, they are NOT exempt or a voice of the people. Both the Left & the Right are dragging this nation down.

I wonder what Bible Nicole Lamarche reads? She clearly hasn't read Lev. 18:22, 20:13, 1Cor 6:9-10, Rom 1:26-28, or Gen 18:20.

Matter of fact she is clearly a false prophet, at least Joy &the Blonde aren't in disguise, just clearly misguided & leading others astray.
Rom 2:23 You are so proud of knowing the law, but you dishonor God by breaking it. Rom 2:24 No wonder the Scriptures say, "The world blasphemes the name of God because of you."

Disclaimer: It's your choice not to believe in God, disbelief will not curve your first class ticket to hell. However, don't mislead others & send them to hell with you. MISERY LOVES COMPANY!


Roland   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

It is very,very wrong for a man to get marrige to a man, or for a woman to do same. The bible talk about how God distory the city for allowing gay marriage.America please don't allow gay marriage period........


andrew   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

GAY MARRIAGE STINK,MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN O MAN AND A WOMAN.GOD DID NOT PUT ADAM AND STEVE.


bobbi   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

i believe the question asked of miss California was a trap in order for the GAY community to get attention to their so called plight of not being able to legally marry in most states. i am not referring to the homosexual population. I believe that instead of asking a moral question of her the gay man whom asked the question could of asked a question about more important issues like what do you believe the terrorists plan to do next.


Kim   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

The difference between the male-female only marriage advocates and those who support marriage as an individual choice for a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, or a man and a man is that those who advocate only male-female marriage want to force everyone else else to accept, adapt to, and agree with their single-minded viewpoint, leaving no room for any other choice. Those who support the other side are accepting and supporting male-female marriage; they are inclusive, however, of those that want to choose male-male marriage and male-female marriage as well. One side excludes; the other includes all.


Penny Lane   May 1st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

It is very hard for me to believe that people are willing to call marriage, which is the union of a man and woman, the same as a homosexual union. It is especially hard for me to understand why homosexuals, who are opposed to, even repulsed by, unions of opposite sex, insist on calling their union a marriage. Homosexuals are different and they want to be considered the same. I do understand them wanting the same rights as married folks, but they are not the same. They are different and need to have their own term to identify with.
It has nothing to do with civil rights, after all, homosexuals have the choice, as any of us do to choose a person of the opposite sex to marry, and many of them do. It is an insult to give heterosexual marriage the same term as homosexual unions. I refuse to tell my children that they can marry a man or a woman and it will not matter the difference. It is very different!


Eric Damian   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I think it’s very sad when someone is attacked and insulted for speaking their mind, especially on something as sacred as marriage. I agree and support miss California. This world would be a better place if we had more people with the same mentality. To her critics I say, since when did it become wrong for an individual to stand up for what they believe in, especially in a country as wonderful as ours? If anyone is wrong here is those who believe in gay marriage… have you ever heard of book called the Bible? By the way these people only make themselves look ignorant when they so brutally criticize the believes that have been a part of society and traditional marriage (the way God intended) for hundreds of years.


Roland   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I would like to ask to Ann Coulter why she is accusing president Obama to spend too much money and bankrupt the United States and she does'nt say anything about president Bush who started the war in Iraq which is draining the resources and the money from the USA in a cronic war which is draining 3 billions dollars a day from our economy.( plus killing thousands of young americans.)
Why does'nt Ann Coulter explain how intelligent Bush was when he wanted to invest the social security money belonging to people who worked all their life into investment funds? What would have been left today of those investments?
Why does'nt she take a good look at the way Bush administered this country during the past 8 years? and with kind of mentality?
She certainly is not intelligent!!! Obama has done more in 100 days than Bush has done in 8 years!


Roland   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I would like to ask to Ann Coulter why she is accusing president Obama to spend too much money and bankrupt the United States and she does'nt say anything about president Bush who started the war in Iraq which is draining the resources and the money from the USA in a cronic war which is draining 3 billions dollars a day from our economy.( plus killing thousands of young americans.)
Why does'nt Ann Coulter explain how intelligent Bush was when he wanted to invest the social security money belonging to people who worked all their life into investment funds? What would have been left today of those investments?
Why does'nt she take a good look at the way Bush administered this country during the past 8 years? and with kind of mentality?
She certainly is not intelligent!!! Obama has done more in 100 days than Bush has done in 8 years!


MichaelTucker   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I believe that gay couples should have many of the same rights of married couples (except marriage, which per the Bible, is intended to be between a man and woman).


Samantha   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I guarantee if Miss California would have said she agreed with the thought of gay marriage, there would be no controversy. That's what bothers me the most, like Alec Baldwin said she's being prosecuted. She has the right to state her opinion, and she should have the right to do that without having to worry about all this attacking going on.


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Miss California spoke from her heart what she believes. .... I agree with her. ..... What we can't talk in America anymore? ......I can't say how I feel anymore? .........What are you going to arrest any one who doesn't agree with you? ......... What are we living with a bunch of little Hitler's now? .......... What is going on with this country. ...... FREE SPEECH...Agree to Disagree and get over it people.....


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

You have a guy dropping FBombs (who is an obvious liberal) on this blog yet CNN will not allow my posts to go through because there not in step with their far left agenda.

Interesting...


Alex in Boston   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Here's an easy ,fix Marriage is a timeless ritual , let the right wing have it who cares – gay people can get "married" just call it someting else – give gay people the same exact legal right that hetero couples have – this debate is sensless and stupid and people just need to get over it already , oh and Billy God does not write , he dictates.....


David   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

@ckelly

That's such a false statement. Gay marriage will NOT necessitate allowing polygamy We allow one man to marry one woman. Since all people are equal, we must allow one woman to marry one woman.

Anything else and it's discrimination. Adding numbers to marriage makes the math wrong (you can't devote all of your time to one person)... your argument is invalid.


Catherine Sallach   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Joy / Larry
Marriage is for guys and gals...

Common law is for guys and gals who want marriage rights without
the paper......

Civil Union [ or another name] for all other adults who
want the rights of marriage just like other adults...

A lot of people think that 'common law' unions are not biblically right,
but they still get the rights!

Making something lawful does not have to be OK in bible terms. We
have laws about computer rights – nothing in the bible about them!

Adult couples should all be treated the same under the law.


Ukiah Morrison   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I read a book once that claimed to be a bible dictionary. I think the author's last name was Addington. His fiirst name may have been Richard. In it, it stated that marriage was to be of the same mind. This has nothing to do with gender. Technically, Jesus was more of a homosexual than most, he loved all men.


margie   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Just what is going on? A lot of the straights just want to live together and the gays want to get married. Men and women were built like they are for a reason. Two people of the same sex wanting to get married is so wrong.


Sam Yannello   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I am gay and married in a penecostal church...I am a born again Christian and see how legalism and moralism cloud the issue. All the fathers of our religion has numerous wives and concubines, which was their culture. I believe in separation of church and state and think the state shouldnt marry anyone let the state give civil unions to all and let the churches marry us..Joseph and I are married under God as Christian men but do not have equal rights under American Law. ..If the religious right wants to practice moralism..then make oral sex illegal as well as all sex unless married...thats biblical if we want our society to follow the mosaic law lets not pick and choose...as for me and mine I follow Christ and recieve salvation through faith in his redeeming blood not in my ability not to sin..which is a trick of the devil.....to divide us lets practice love and acceptance..


Michael   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

First of all, the question posed to Miss California was an unfair one, especially coming from a gay person. Had a straight person asked the same question, they wouldn't have responded the way Perez Hilton did. Let's face it, he threw a tantrum & made that girl into a "bad" person. He asked her about her opinion. She didn't say anything bad about gays. She simply gave her opinion. She's not running for mayor, so why the big deal?


gordon   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Marriage is not, nor was it ever a civil institution. It is and was and has been a religious institution. Not even kings had power over marriage. Look at Henry the eighth he was wicked and even he knew that he had no power over the marriage covenant. Now paul of the new testament described homosexuality as the farthest level of sexual deprivation. Further more, I don't not want my son or daughter to think that it is at all ok or even acceptable as paul instructed the church to remove all sexually immoral from membership in the church.


Thomas   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I think it's strange that Miss California believes GOD doesn't want 2 people who love eachother to marry and, she believes GOD is is OK with her getting breast inmpants and parading around on television half naked.


Eric   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Now it's very easy to say between a man and a woman if you want to reproduce, there is only one way to do it..it takes a man and a woman...marriage who cares, thats just love and anyone can have that.
I'm wondering what is Joy Behar's opinion?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Rick May 1st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Why do Liberals seem to resort to personal attacks — it is obvious they HATE anyone who doesn’t agree with them but why nasty personal comments??

Well if That isn't the best example of the pot calling the kettle black


Andrea   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

And BTW wasn't Stephen Baldwin kissing a guy in his film "Threesome".


Babs   May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I'm gay but I respect the fact that marriage has been, for all these years, kind of a pet thing for man/woman couples. I could see why many wouldnt want to make any changes to it.... they can have it(along with divorce as well ; ) ... however, I believe that gay people are no different than straight, truly...it's all the same ups, downs and arounds in relationships and life in general. If two people commit to each other in life...just like a married couple...they should have all the same rights. Why not...what ever could it hurt. I think we all need to relax and be a little kinder in understanding the differences between us. Live and let live.


Ron Anderegg   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Why do people say (and believe) God wrote the Bible.
It was written by male chauvinists kings, priests and generals over 2000 years ago to have control over the uneducated masses of that time.
We live in a world today far advanced of that thinking. Yet the uneducated masses of today still follow that archaic rubbish.


sam   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

May 1st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Allow gay marriage? What’s next, polygamy?
@@@ christ nooo!!! one nag is enough


Joel   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

right on, Dani.


Angie from Georgia   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

all I will say is GOd have Mercy on our nation, they that do not know you, I pray that they will, Those that want to band preachers from preaching against sin of homsexuality, forgive them for they do not know. I ask that you forgive those that are trying to lead this country into to the pits of hell. and I plea the blood of Jesus over this land.


Art   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

I am glad that she (Ms. California) spoke her mind. She gave a great answer. She could have lied or dodge he question. Or maybe should could have gave you the answer you wanted to hear... I glad she spoke from her hear knowing that i might cause her he competition.


Anant   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

To all the "Bible-thumping" people posting on here...
I have a simple statement for you:

'Keep your Theocracy out of my DEMOCRACY'


CHARITY   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN THE BIBLE SAY SO YOU CAN READ THE BOOK OF EPHESIANS 5


Andrew   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Separation of church and state.


patricia morgan   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

God ordained marriage to be between a man& a woman Adam & Eve as sams sex cannot procreate for the perpetuation of the species even the animals know better AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION AS gOD'S CURSE MAY BE ON THE NATION For those who believe the bible is the word of God SEE ROMANS CHAPTER I


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

@V. Oliver: Just because we don't agree doesn't make me or Miss California a bigot-you need to apply logic to your arguments and vitriol and hatred-

CKelly
A woman living in Vancouver BC with many gay friends.


Shawn O'Mahony   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

God did not write the Bible Mr. Baldwin.

You can believe that heterosexual marriage is sacred – Go to church of your choosing and practice it. Better yet, save it from deteriorating. Do not exclude the rights of other individuals who feel they want the same. Many churches support gay marriage now. Are you saying your church is better than these churches. Do they not have the right to perform ceremonies of their choosing?

I am a supporter of Marriage and family values. I guess gay people aren't allowed to have family values. Too bad they already have families.


David from North Carolina   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Re: gay marriage
If you are a Christian, you must accept God's word as the truth.
Leviticus 18:22- God says "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." Read the rest of Leviticus Chapter 18 for all of God's commands to mortal men and women. Now, if you are not a Christian, I suppose you do what you want and suffer the consequences, but in God's eyes, you are sinning.


Jon   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Miss USA is jealous because Miss CA is getting more attention than her even though she "won" and that is why she is attacking Miss CA.


mark in colorado   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Everyone please be quiet so Joy can talk!!!


Alex Shrestha   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

hi! I think gay marriage is not normal or natural. why are we all trying to change something that God created. for the gay marriage supporters, I have a question – "what if everyone in the world turned gay, from where are you going to produce kids?"


Carl   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

The 'traditional marriage' you defend is actually that of ownership of women as property to carry on the husband's family name and ego. It's been that way much longer than hets being allowed to pick their spouses based on love.

The Bible says nothing about gay marriage and only codemns pederastry and sexual violence. These are things that an extremely high percentage of hets DO practice. Men in their 30s have married teenage girls near the age of puberty for centuries, and considered that a union blessed by God.

Marriage in Mass is stronger than in most southern Bible Belt states.

Why aren't you pushing to end divorce, since that is the REAL threat to marriage? And why not push for vasectomies for violent criminals and deatbeat dads?


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Regarding Miss California and same-sex marriage... She said that she is being discriminated against, hurt, and vilified because of her views. However, the same-sex couples that are not given the right to be married are also being discriminated against. Miss California, the discrimination you feel is similar to the discrimination you and your like-minded community empower on the GLBT community. YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM. Same-sex opponents are going out of their way to stop two people from loving each other, from having the same rights as opposite-sex couples, and creating discrimination toward a community.

As a homosexual 19-year-old, in a committed relationship, I struggle with understanding how someone could be so against something that really wouldn't affect them at all. This is similar to the discrimination faced by the african americans and women; there is a lack of rights and a plethora of hate. I understand how women felt when they were expected to stay at home, I sort of understand how african americans felt when they weren't aloud to vote or sit with white people in the movie theatre. And I understand that someday (hopefully soon), I will be able to marry my boyfriend, just like the african americans were given the right to vote, and women weren't expected to stay at home every day.

I would like to ask all of you to keep that in mind. Chances are, if you aren't gay, you know someone who is. Remember that we are all people. We are all humans and we all deserve the same right to marry. Heterosexuals in a marriage or relationship, think about your spouse. Think about all of the amazing things you have done. Now, think about someone taking that away from you. Think about someone telling you that all you've been through doesn't count or is unacceptable. It's not fair... The nuclear family doesn't exist anymore. Times are changing and families are not as they once were. Single parents, divorced parents, same-sex parents – it's all there. Don't stop the change; embrace difference.

The GLBTA community isn't trying to take your marriage away, so please, don't take away ours.


Cy O'Neal   May 1st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

The King James Bible Old Testament clearly declares that Gays period are an abomination to the LORD. Meaning it is a grevious Sin. The New Testament Teaches essentially the same. You want chapters and verse references? How about getting in touch with the Billy Grahams.


Kathy   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Miss California didn't ask the question. She answered the question. Leave her alone. Yes, I am against gay marriage, too.


shari   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Why ask a question like that, and then not give her the opportunity to have a different opinon. Gays are using this to capitalize on voting for
same sex marrige.


Myles   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Mr Baldwin is against Gay Marriage because the "Bible say's it's wrong and God wrote the Bible"

I never knew it was actually God who WROTE the Bible. Which version of the Bible did God actually write???


Ronnie Al   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

If you read the Bible then you will read that Jesus forgives and we are then granted the right to enter heaven. Those that do not accept Jesus as their savior will go to hell; however, if you are still alive during the first 31/2 years of the Tribulation, you will have another chance to accept Jesus and you will live forever. As a matter of fact, everyone will live forever; however, you determine where you will live...smoking or non-smoking. I ask that everyone read the King James Bible (no other Bible) and then make a decision.

I stand behind Ann Coulter in almost everything that she says.


Joshua Zeegers   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

The same consevatives that say the government should not mess with the private corporation. Are the same exact group of people that trying to tell private citizens what they should be doing in thier PRIVATE times..... Hipocrisy is a dying disease and it scares the He% out of far right consrvative that is complete denial that change is natural part of life!


dr. n'guessan k. marshall   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman; the bible clearly states in 1st Corinthian 6V9; that homosexuality is a sin, as adultery is a sin.


George   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I think been gay is a fantasia, is a silly thing somebody can do because if you consider men and woman biologically, you will know what I am talking about. Animals don't think but they know that sexuality can be between male and female only, it's natural.


Tanisha   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Ms. Prejean should not be prosecuted for being brought up in a blessed wholesome household. And knowing who she really is . A beautiful young lady that exercises traditional right. That is not fair to be criticize for being NORMAL. It will be getting bloody soon. I'm no gay basher , I have gay friends, don't push me. Because I believe in the norm. I don't baby gay drama it just fuels the fire that's what they want. We should be keeping the peace.
Leave that Girl Alone. Piss off Paris!!! Leave Miss USA's to the M.I.S.S. USA. No Mister's that wannabe misses out! This is Trump's Doll house he fits the bill leave it alone.
Leave it that way!!Peace!!
Paris doesn't have the dough to put something so legendary on TV. Piss off two times!!!


USMC68   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I think it's the interpretation of "marriage" that upsets most Americans. I personally don't have an issue with civil unions, but "marriage" belongs between a man and a woman.


james   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I am a proud Canadian, the majority of Canadian Citizens support Gay Marriage...
America my friends – stop debating the inevitable, Gay Marriage is happening in your country and will continue in a positive direction.
Accept Gay Marriage, why not debate solving health care for all... I am so proud to be Canadian.


Maria   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I feel that gays have "the golden ticket" & they take full advantage of it. For example, in the corporate world, managers are afraid to fire a gay person or confront them with respect to performance evaluations. If a staight person has any sort of opinion the entire gay community attacks that person. I feel bad for Miss California... I feel worse for the nation... we have truly lost our freedom of speech & our freedom of opinion because the pack rules based on the brutality of their attacks.


Kim   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

CORRECTION
The difference between the male-female only marriage advocates and those who support marriage as an individual choice for a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, or a man and a man is that those who advocate only male-female marriage want to force everyone else else to accept, adapt to, and agree with their single-minded viewpoint, leaving no room for any other choice. Those who support the other side are accepting and supporting male-female marriage; they are inclusive, however, of those that want to choose male-male marriage and female-female marriage as well. One side excludes; the other includes all.


gayle   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I would just like to say, as a former pageant winner, and later a pageant judge. There are rules when you enter these contests. The point it seems everyone keeps looking over is, Miss California was representing her state. Her personal opinion should have taken a back seat. She represents a multitude of people, and no matter how you look at it, you CAN NOT expect that by saying "no offense" you are not insulting some of the very many people you represent. I believe she should stick to her platform and hopfully she can recover from this and learn an invaluable lesson.


Prince   May 1st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Gays mariage is most uggly thing I ever see in my live, this is a big shame an insult to human being. Being a gay is a shame if your parent were gays you will not be born.


ray   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Ann,

You are a tribute to the feminine cause. You are continued proof that women can be both beautiful and intelligent. While I may not agree with all that you say thank God you are out there representing the other side the debate. Joy Behar has a lot to learn from you.


James   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

If the Bible was written by god why do you have Versions? ie "King James(aka King James of England who want a way to devorce his wife "LMAO)


Christine   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Same sex couples should be able to be joined legally as a couple through civil unions. Civil unions should give same sex couples the same rights as married couples. I believe that it is wrong that same sex couples do not have the same rights as married men and women. Same sex couples should be allowed to go to the court house and have civil unions, which would give them the rights they deserve. In turn, having done a civil union, same sex civilly united couples would have to do the same proceedings as a married couple if they wanted to end that union. Marriage, however, this term should be used when referring to the union of a man and a woman.


ClaudiaJoy   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

claudiajoy how dare you pass judgement on other people.


Diane   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Kathy, today's Neo-conservatist mirror the beliefs of the Neo-naxi movement. Look at the 2008 Republican National Convention...it looked like a KKK revival!

I did not vote for Ron Paul, however, he was the common sense factor during the entire 07-08 campaign season.

He is closer to what the "real" Republican Party stands for...the Republican Party in many ways was more decent under the leadership of Richard Nixon than that of the leadership of the past 8 yrs.

I feel grateful for the majority of Republicans that don't divide us as Americans like Ann, Sarah, and Rush (10% indeed) tend to do! They break the party and have in many ways caused it to loose its identity!

They have a right to their OPINIONS as all human beings do!

Let the government help clean up the vast mess from the past decade. The current Administration is NOT trying to control or take away anyone's individual rights!

Those pundits that represent the 10% mind-set of some in this country, only pray on the insecurities and fears of their "own kind".

Keep on believing that you are the "Real Americans" and real life will pass you by!


Yolande George   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

One of the greatest things about our country is that we have such diversity and opportunity here. I realize that beliefs are a powerful thing, and everyone is entitled to them, especially in the case of gay marriage. The way I see it is that gays should be allowed their rights to marriage, and there own belief, and that it would not necessarily infringe on the beliefs and rights of those opposed to gay marriage. The followers of gay marriage are not asking you to support gay marriage, only to accept it as a new opportunity for diversity and to show kindness and tolerance instead of ignorance and blind hate, which is a key tenet of Christianity.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

She lost the beauty contest, she is only being a good republican and exploiting a non critical issue for hype. Flag burning, prayer in school and gay marriage. "Marriage" in the traditional sense isn't guarenteed in the US Constitution. Equal rights are. Get the picture YET? We can solve this easy. Pass a law saying the State dosen't recognize ANY marriage. It is purely a religious ceremony for ALL. There, we are all equal. What happens once the anti-gay folks start losing THEIR rights? I married a cinder block last week. We have a very happy marriage and there is NOTHING you can do about it! Get it YET?


Ryan   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Stephen Baldwin is ridiculous. He should be embarrassed for trying to turn the tables and make it out like people who oppose gay marriage are being PERSECUTED. Get real. People should start worrying about their own lives instead of imposing on other people's lives. If you don't like gay marriage, don't get married to the same sex.


Mike B   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

The Christians run this country, so
there will be no happy days for the gays.
both sides should quit acting like drama queens.


Scotty   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

I guarantee all you religious, bible-thumping.........whatever, that you personally know several homosexual people, and you don't even know it. My own mother, who is 72 years old, just found out today that a male friend of hers for over 50 years, is homosexual. Yet, he was married and had two children, a complete cover-up. Brokeback Mountain is much more prevalent that we realize..............it is EVERYWHERE! My prediction: one day, gay marriage will exist worldwide and we will look upon gay marriage as completely normal, just as we see a woman's right to vote as being normal (which it was not in the very recent past). For the person who said "Adam and Steve", are you really so stupid to believe the Adam and Eve fairy tale? I don't understand the threat that heterosexual individuals feel to allowing homosexuals the same civil rights?


Connie Eaves   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Miss California is a beautiful young lady who spoke from her heart. We need more people to speak up. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Im shocked that people are so concerned about being politicaly correct that they have lost thier values. Mommy and Daddy are male and female. If two people of the same sex want to live together and declair thier love for each other, thats between them and GOD but quit shoving down my throat, quit teaching it in school and quit beating up the straight community, because they dont agree with you. Have some respect for us, that believe marrage is between a man and woman as you demand respect for your gay stand.


Marilyn   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

There are two aspects to marriage, only one that is legal, and that is the civil aspect. The other aspect is one relating to a religious point of view. Some states have chosen to make civil marriage a right for gays as well as a man/woman. Some Christian demonations have also chosen to acknowledge marriage between same sex couples. When a clergy person performs a marriage ceremony that person is acting under the state, and is performing a civil cermony which is also blessed by the church. Folks who disapprove of same sex marriage can worship in a church with their beliefs. I know of no man/woman marriage that has been destroyed by the legal civil same sex marriage in our commonwealth of Massachusetts. No clergy person or church has been forced to perform a marriage ceremony against their beliefs. I see no problem with same sex marriage as a civil right or with those churches and clergy who are moved by their beliefs in a loving God to santify same sex marriage. I do see a problem with persons who want to inflict their beliefs on our country as a whole.


Eryca   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

The problem with changing the definition of marriage and allowing gays and lesbians the right to marry is that the flood gates become open for anything. Should it then become legal for you to marry more than one person?, an immediate family member? Once you change the definition of marriage it is changed forever.


pete   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

The problem started when they came out of the closet


Gwendolyn   May 1st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Hi Joyce, Love the topic, but come on, don’t run the show with a liberal agenda and attitude. Remember, marriage has been over 2,000 years an institution that was designed long before we decided it was right or wrong. Thank God, or you and I might not have been born! How about looking at equal rights for the union of marriage between a man and women. Why is that hard to accept? Yes equal rights for those that are heterosexual. Find another term that represents the same sex union, marriage is taken.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

David May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

A person born blind cannot become a driver.
The person lives with it.
A person born gay cannot marry.
Live with it.

David

Oh, okay... but just cause you say so david 🙄


Hispanic and Proud   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Gays (and pageant judge) have targeted Miss California for her belief and honest answer during the beauty pageant. Because she believes marriage is between a man and woman. Now we all of sudden believe that is not PC. America wake up I’ve been persecuted for being Hispanic in the 60’s for race and now we are verbally assaulting humans for the honest believes. We now have focused prejudices on people who believe in honest answers. Lets just teach our children that lying is correct and honesty is not because we need to be PC.


Aman   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

I'd like to start off this email by commending Ms. Behar on remaining calm and collected during the embarrassing performance put on by her guests in regards to same sex marriage. I heard Mr. Baldwins comments and could not help but giggle. I giggled not because I thought he was joking, rather because he was so outraged that someone, anyone could "approve" of a man loving a man or a woman loving a woman and wanting to share their lives with one another. He preached about his believes and was so upset that someone may not think as he does. Hmm.... From my understanding, which i admit is only 28 years limited, his God, my God and your God NEVER discouraged or forbade love. How does one simple human being tell another simple human being who he or she may or may not love? Clearly I'm missing something!


jose valdes   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

I believe the reverend in your program is correct. Marriage should be available to every citizen equally. Not just one majority. Shanna is also correct to speak her mind and stand up for a minority that has been oppressed through time by most governments and religions.

I was appalled, surprised and disappointed by Steven Baldwin I will never again see any of his movies.

Jose


James Cornett   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

On Gay Marriage, I disagree. In Genisis 9: God said to Noah and his sons, be fruitable and fill the earth.Gays can't do that.


Brian   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

@ckelly

That whole slippery slope argument in just moronic. Do you really think that just because someone loves another person of the same sex that it means they were just testing the waters so they could molest a child, or have sex with an animal? The only way that argument holds any water is if you personally cannot wait until gay marrige is legal, so you can molest children, or have sex with an animal. Oh, and I know you didn't bring up beastiality yet, but that's people with that argument always seem to do.


Neil Schneider   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Christians are so brainwashed on the pew from such a young age, most will never be open minded enough to accept gay people. I'd hate to be their son, daughter, or family member.


Art   May 1st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

I agree with Carla Perez!!! Read the comment!


Scott Stey   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

... of course the first amendment to our Constitution is extremely important but, fear is fear and hate is hate. Marriages across our nation have been in a tremendous amount of trouble long before the Gay marriage issue arrived on the scene.

To Stephen Baldwin: There are numerous references to the acceptance of gay sex in the Bible.... To "know" does not only mean, to be acquainted with.


Karen Westfield   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Ann is a troubled woman. I don't know if its for the money. Or she is just plan sick. Any view that is Rush, Shaun, Newgt, shes with it.

Karen
Atlanta, Ga


pete   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I just love Ann


Dave   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I CORINTHIANS 6:9-10

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kindom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor theives nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


Mary J.   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Miss California, Carrie Prejean's remarks are just right.....AND SODOM of the BOOK OF GENESIS is a SALTY "town" today because
of its GAY LIFESTYLE. Check it out.


Bryant   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I agree with Stephen Baldwin that God is the final authority about a man and a woman leaving their family and joining in marriage and He says "What God has put together let no man put asunder". We cannot change the authority of God without severe penalty. The Bible declares that man shall not lay down with man and woman shall not lay down with woman. I think most Americans as well as those in California do not approve of two of the same sex being married.


Viola Smith   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

America the free, where you persecute someone for giving an honest answer to a question that should not have been asked in the first olace.


joyce   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Wow allie, you're really a hater huh? I guess you're part of that 21% that still claim they're republican......


Charles   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman. Personally I am heterosexual, and I would hope that for everyone. However, if a gay couple wants equal legal rights under the law as married heterosexual couple that is OK with me even though I personally do not agree with that lifestyle. I respect each person’s freedom to make his or her own choice, just as I want the freedom to make my own personal choices. I do not think that the gay question should have even been asked of Miss California in the first place, but issues that divide our nation seem to top our topic lists these days. So, call the relationship for gay couples a union rather than marriage, and let's move on to other issues.


Chase Browning   May 1st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

With separation of church and state, it should not matter what marriage is defined as in the bible or in any other religious text. Marriage should be a legal act and not a religious one because we do not all hold the same religious values. I am the proud son of a lesbian who has raised four good kids, I being the last and youngest to be on my way to collage with good moralities and a level head. I believe it to be absurd that people still think individuals of the LGBT community can't raise children. There needs to be a change from this exclusively Christian view of marriage to a broader one. No one's religious views should EVER be imposed on the lives of others. Marriage IS sacred and I believe that it is those who hold this 'one man, one woman' view who are desecrating its true purpose of uniting those in love to better help them raise a family and also to share their lives as equals under the law and in the eyes of society.


angela   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Gosh Larry, what timing.


bob   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I don't see what the big deal is, man man woman woman
To be honest it is funny, growing up in a world were woman are the ones who take on the responsibility of taking care of the children and the man or sleeps around with several different woman, what does the bible say about that? The only reason people are going on with the gay marriage arguments is because they have absolutely nothing else to do with there lives, if they had they wouldn't be worried about NO ONE else's relationship but there own! If you love someone that should be all that matters!


Linda Messina - DC and Dallas   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Danny Gantz – Saw him once in Vegas and he was way past terrific. That being said, I feel like I'm intruding in a closed group of people watching you all mourn about this man. I understand that but watching you all talk so deeply about someone we, as watchers, are not privy to is uncomfortable and it's time for me to switch channels. Considering all of the things that are going on in the world and in OUR lives, for me to continue watching this is superficial. My condolences to you for losing your friend.


Ryan Stockwell   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Whether or not god is there, no human can tell another what they can and cannot do, our choices equal our consequences and only the individual can account for them, no matter the circumstances no religious man can apply his beliefs upon another – freedom of speech and religion grew up with this country and will not be changed. The question concerning gay marriage was not legitimate, total opinion and unrelated belief relays in that question, no agreeable or common answer is possible .


James   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Am wondering how gays and lesbiens can marry and multiply to forefil the essence of marriage and God's word of "multiply" meaning of marriage.Personally people will regret one day for wasting their life on this gay and lebiens act.First of all a man and a woman brought all these gays and lesbiens to the world to mulyiply and live on this earth. This gay and lesbien act is going to affect america seriously in terms of population and human resource one day and people will regret one day. Now it looks fun, go ahead and waste the future .What is the might of China, the power of china and Indian is population so think about this when you are making the decision of gays and lesbien. You are holding and depopulating the american land and human power as well as america power.
James


Vicki   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

On Gay marriage-
separation of church & state!
It should be all about Love!
When God comes down and speaks to this subject, I will listen to her..
But not when it is "man's" judgment/discrimination that is causing the problem.


Anonymous   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

We absolutely have the right to express our opinions! So, show your ignorance and intolerance folks. It is wonderful that we have a President that is also a black man. Someday, we may have a gay man or woman that becomes President. Unfortunately, we have to watch the battle of the B-S until then. God created all MEN equal. That's in our Constitution – written by men by the way. Should we continue to literally interpret that document, and then asssume that women DO NOT have equal rights in this country?? Come on folks...make the argument one that is rooted in intelligent debate, not empty hollow ideas that support nothing.


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

@ : David no I disagree. Once you redefine the definition of marriage...whether is is the words "one man and woman" or you replace the definition with the words "one or more": it is essentially a change in law that has demonstrated the inequlaity of the union with language and community condonement...that's why MANY in UTAH is in favor of legalizing gay marriage...


Carmen   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I'm sorry about Danny Gans, sad for his family & friends, and it hurts to see you so sad, Larry. Sincere sympathies.


Dalex   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Most gay people didn't have the full knowledge of what they are doing or into? Some just think it's cool.


William Thomas   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

When a people deviate from God's standards for living, man will bring destruction upon himself, and the Bible says those who seek sinful pleasures God will turn them over to a Reprobate mind. This is from the Word of God that will judge all of mankind.


Donna Macchia   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

I don't understand same sex anything. Religion and morality aside, it is simply unnatural.....where is there homosexual acitivity amongst animals??? (dogs humping other dogs of same gender is a dominance issue not sexual). HAVING SAID ALL THIS I have nothing against gay people..I do not think people would "choose" this lifestyle as it is a difficult one for many people. God is love and how and if HE judges is not for us to say. I do not begrudge people love and happiness and if they want to form a civil union of some sort so as to share health benefits, rights during medical crises setc. I can respect that.....but DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REDEFINE "MARRIAGE" AND RESPECT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!


chris   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

If anyone listens to Miss California's response, she's being hyporcritcal of herself within her answer. She said how she loves we live in a country where people have the opportunity to choose who they want to marry, but then goes on to talk about how her country, state and home has the belief marriage should be between a man and a woman so gay marriage shouldn't be legalized. Well... when there's a ban on who a person can marry, that takes away the opportunity to choose who they marry.

And then that the chairperson for National Orginization of Marriage gets on as well as Stephen Baldwin saying they're the ones being persecuted for believing marriage should be between and man and a woman- NOW YOU KNOW HOW THE GAY COMMUNITY FEELS BY YOU VOTING TO BAN AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE. If banning a person from marrying who they wan't isn't persecution, I'd like to know what is. "Oh... I'm Stephen Baldwin and I'm gonna cry because someone called me a name because I don't believe in gay-marriage." Shut up!!! By banning gay marriage you're trying to make desicions for peoples lives you don't even know- and that's a lot worse and than someone calling you a name.
And for the chairperson of NOoM- ya'll are biggets, plain and simple. And hypocrital ones at that. You spend 1.5 million dollars to come out with a commercial with actors pretending to be nurses and pastors claiming that they're being forced to choose between their beliefs and their job, or saying the government is penalizing them for being against gay marriage- IF YOU'RE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD- YOUR JOB IS TO HELP PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO HELP SOMEONE WHO'S GAY AND WANTS TO GET MARRIED- THAT'S ON YOU, NOT YOUR JOB. AND THE LIAR WHO SAID HE'S BEING PENALIZED BY GOVERNMENT FOR NOT SUPPORTING GAY MARRIAGE- WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE LAND YOUR CHURCH OWNS AND IS GETTING A TAX BREAK FOR OPERATING IT AS PUBLIC LAND, THEN YOU DENY A LESBIAN COUPLE FROM GETTING MARRIED IN A PAVILLION ON THAT 'PUBLIC' LAND, IT CEASES TO BE PUBLIC AND YOU LOSE YOUR TAX BREAK. AGAIN- A DECISION YOU MADE FOR YOURSELF, NOT SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE YOU.

THIS IS EMBARRASING.

And last- all these freaking far right-wingers who are crying because they're ignorant as to why Miss California didn't win- well... remember a little movie called Brokeback Mountain that was a sure win for best picture the year of it's release, and then didn't win because it had two guys kissing each other- it's nice to see karma doesn't discriminate against biggetry.


Eric   May 1st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Lets make divorce illegal and see how many folks out there are willing to take the vows seriously.


tishlidji   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

regarding the gay marriage Joy Behar question:

My feelings are live and let live. Anything between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own home is okay with me. I am 68 years old and feel that the gay community is wrongfully persecuted. Also, take into consideration that I have no gay family members nor am I gay but my feelings are not as bigoted as most my age.


joy   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

marriage is an institution created by God our loving father at creation between a man and a woman. God loves all people but abhors sin; Jesus died for our sin but He states in Romans 1 that HE gave them up to their reprobate mind. Read and understand for yourselves Go Ms. California stand up for your God, Shana I feel sorry for you and that Rev. you lack wisdom


James   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

@ gordon

of course Kings didn't. unless it was the night of the wedding where they could deflower the Bride.


Ann Lewis   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

I think the gays should know how it feel to be ridicule, now they're doing the samething. same sex marriage is just what it says, having


Donna McNew   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

I feel that these holier then thou bunch of biggots need to keep their noses in their own homes. I find it interesting that the very people who fight against choice & gay marriage,are the very people who are so loud about their gun rights this to me is so hipocritcal.What is the differance between a Christian Fundelmentalist & a Islamic Fundamentalist Nothing!! they are both dangerous to the world.Freedom of speech is a good thing until in useing it you hurt others or incroach on other rights.


Billy   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

So how do people feel when a gay man and a lesbian woman marry, not because they love each, because they do it for tax, benifits and such, they have love ones side, that would satisfy the church goers...... So fed up with these close minded people. Reality check, 21st century, I think it is... And by the way...I am one that needs proof of who created anything...i look into the universe for my questions, not for whom supposedly created it.


bobby   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

I can not belive that I have to listen all nonsense about same sex marriage,trying to catch some news with my family and young kids.I don't know what to tell my kids about this idiotic same sex marriage.
Let's not forget what happend to the nations in the history of religions
and different faith to the one got involve in same sex relationship.
wake up America before God turns his back to us.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Joyce, only 17 % after Annie C. tonight


Danai   May 1st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Look what's happening to 'free speech'.
Seems our liberal friends are making a habit of 'demonizing' anyone who disagrees with them or has a different point of view.
What's happened to the 'tolerant' liberal?

Let's continue to have healthy discussions.... allowing all views to be expressed.... C'mon liberals......Grow up and quit 'name calling' ...your opinion is NOT superior!


J. Robintz   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman. It does not matter how you try to change God's word, it still stands. Speak to God about this and He will help you accept this truth.


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

whats wrong with this country?..gayness is friggin sick!!!


Greg from Missouri   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Miss California's views match the majority vote on the California ballot on the issue of same sex marriage. Sorry, you gay folks are way back in the minority.


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Sorry for the loss of your family friend Larry.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Penny Lane

"homosexuals have the choice, as any of us do to choose a person of the opposite sex to marry, and many of them do."

False. Same-sex marriage is only legal in a few states. So, you are right by saying "homosexuals have the choice, as any of us do to choose a person of the opposite sex," however, we can't all get married in the state we live in. And, thanks to DOMA, any marriage that would happen outside of many states, would make the marriage I might have in Iowa not recognized in Minnesota.

Also, "no offense," but you "[refusing] to tell [your] children that they can marry a man or a woman and it will not matter the difference" will, in fact, make a difference. You are continuing the ignorance and discrimination that is keeping me and my long-time boyfriend from marrying. I would never do that to you and your spouse.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Bible thumping is an interesting term however the founding fathers of america were christian and did not at all allow for the false uses of seperation of church and state that they now try to say it means as a matter of fact at the library of congress you can read the conversations between baptists and the founding fathers where they feared that the constitution may be misused to try to remove religion from our democracy however the founding fathers didn't think it was possible to misuse the constitution so badly guess we showed them.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Get Zell Miller and Dan Quayle on tomorrow night, the RNC is history


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

glenn May 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Gay marriage, whats next , men and goats, men and swine, men and monkeys! we already had that and look what happened.

As previously stated, Goats, swine, and monkeys cannot understand the implications of the words "I do" much less speak the words outright. Your arguement fails... miserably.


Anant   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

to Neil Schneider: I completely agree with you Neil... the hatred and twisted logic that Christians spew towards people who are not like them... it disgusts me.


Teresa   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

The Bible, which is the infallible Word of God, clearly states that marriage is between a man and a woman. After all, when God saw Adam and said it was not good for man to be alone, he didn't create another Adam to be his mate, but instead He created a woman!
God knew what He was doing!
God's word says that if a man lies with a man and a woman with a woman that it is a detestable act in the the eyes of God.

Sin is sin. So what's next? Will we begin to let murderers off the hook because they claim they were "born that way"? What about rapists? people who sexually abuse children? Where will this stop?

As far as I am concerned, God said it is wrong and that settles it for me.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

First, there are two David's here... I'm not the one who made the ridiculous blind driver 'analogy'... and I challenge anyone to make a legitimate argument for not allowing gay marriage in US law.

Let's avoid the following very common fallacies:

1) If we let the gays marry, we will have to let people marry animals.
2) Gay marriage is wrong because god told me so.
3) Gay marriage is the same as polygamy.


Roland   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Marriage has ALWAYS been between a man and a woman since the beginning of life. It was the same with all animals that mating was between a male and a female specie. What is happening now? We cannot even say anymore that marriage is between a man and a woman ? We get in troubles for saying that ?
Are we not intelligent enough to understand and realize that it is ok if 2 women or 2 men wish to have sex together, or they wish to live together – however marriage is between a man and a woman.period.
The day when 2 men or 2 women having sex together they can get pregnant and give birth to a child....then they can get married together.


Pat   May 1st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

The very same arguements made not so many years ago, against interracial marriage, are being used now by those afraid of gay and lesbian citizens.
They are as wrong, and as hurtful now, as they were then. Why are people so afraid of anything or anyone that is different?
Ignorance is the parent of fear and hate. Both of those emotions are distructful, not only to whom they are aimed against, but also to those that propagate such violent words and actions.
Those emotions are what contributes to atrocities in the name of God.
I will pray for all who are prisoners of ignorance, fear and hate.


Sonja   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Ms. California being attacted by Perez Hilton is what make so many turn against it. Perez acted like the beauty queen was about to take his pacifier and so he threw a tantrum. She should be able to charge him with slander and a hate crime for her beliefs.


Fhanniee   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

As a Christian, the Bible has defined marriage between a male and a female. God ordained it as such; not only with humans, but also with animals. After the flood, HE preserved the animals in the ark– male and female. No other relationship can reporduce after their kind. Since GOD created man and this is HIS order and HIS world, who are we to alter HIS plan?


Lisa "Mo" from Lewiston Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Why wont this show put on people who are gay that want to fight for the right to marry. I am so sick and tired of having the Bible thrown at me every time a person says NO to gay marriages. Please find another reason for gays not to get marred. It is bad enough I have to hear about god and all when I do anything. I dont want god pushed down my throat just like some of you do not want gay marriages pushed down yours. Think about it.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Ann May 1st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Gay marriage is agianst nature and agianst GOD!

then how do you explain the natural occurance of homosexuality in animals?


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

@Dave
Do you know the Bible isn't true?


Angie   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

I agree with you Donna


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

@Jacob Conway: It’s extremely DISRESPECTFUL to compare a person’s sexual preference to the color of my skin. I don’t have to prove or explain to anyone how the melanin content in my skin is NOT interchangeable. It is absurd & extraordinarily incomprehensible, how someone could compare our race to deviant sexual practices. They will hijack any real civil rights movements to garner sympathy for FAUX rights. They have every individual right that I have. DON’T EVER COMPARE THE COLOR OF MY SKIN TO YOUR SIN!


Mary Houston   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

I applaud Carrie Prejean for not selling herself out and compromising her believes for superficial and temporary wordly gains. I'm sure she knew what she was in for when she decided to answer that question honestly.

I also admire Steven Baldwin for coming out so boldly on the side of the Truth. He risks being ridiculed and persecuted, as well as his career being damaged because of his faith based believes. Being a Christian is not easy, but the alternative is a lot more difficult. I was on the other side for the first 37 years of my life. I have been a Christian for the past 19 years. I would not trade my faith in God for the world and everything in it. He is my passion.


Rocky   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Larry King, why do you cut people off when they are trying to express their feelings. Marie Osman was talking and you cut her off several times. I think your getting to old to hear anymore. Youve got 2 ears and one mouth. Listen to others before you cut them off. Rude.


stacey   May 1st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Baldwin is right jesus was and still is persecuted by just the term gay m arriage


Ann   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

@ David

I don't see air but I know it's there. I never said I was God's messenger(although as a Christian I am to spread the word of God to all). I also never said I was a prophet.

I also didn't say you should be interested in religion after all religion is just an organization. Faith is a gift God offers all us, it is our choice as to wether we accept his gift. Those who have faith in God, have faith in Jesus Christ and his death, ressurection & ascention into heaven will join with him in te end....those who don't will burn in hell for eternity.


joy   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

this is an attack on God


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Ok. So if marriage is defined as the union of two people who can come together to create life, I defy anybody to demonstrate as to how any two males or any two females can create human life together. Let's see, hmmm.. the guy has something that the female doesn't and vice versa. Simple anatomy and simple biology answers this question.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

"@ : David no I disagree. Once you redefine the definition of marriage…whether is is the words “one man and woman” or you replace the definition with the words “one or more”: it is essentially a change in law that has demonstrated the inequlaity of the union with language and community condonement…that’s why MANY in UTAH is in favor of legalizing gay marriage…"

There are so many problems with this post. One, nobody's saying define it as one or more. We're defining it as two people, period. So that everyone is equal. No sexism involved.

Also... I'm pretty sure the Mormons were the reason Prop 8 passed... yeah, that's documented.


Anonymous   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Bob – kudos to you, man! Great point


Anglia   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

To everything God creates Satan has a counterfeit. Marriage properly defined is only between a man and a woman. Any other relationship in the context of marriage is a counterfeit. Gay marriage is a counterfeit. Many people in the world have been blinded to the truth or they choose not to accept the truth. However, when this life is over, and we all face our maker our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, there will be many people dissappointed because of their ill choices in satisfying an ungodly lust for a relationship that is abominable in nature. I applaud standing up for the truth. I stand along side all who truly believe that MARRIAGE IS ONLY BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.


Marilyn Treadaway   May 1st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Larry, I like you. I don't alway's watch, because I'm a conservative. I'm sorry of the loss of your friend, Danny Gans.....But my comment to you and Joy is to say I'm a believer of the Bible, so i cannot approve of GAY marriage. It is wrong in the eyes of GOD. He is our creator. He chose what is best for us. We are a selfish creature, so we want what WE WANT, unfortunantly, not what our creator wants..for us. Without GOD in our lives, we don't know moral right or wrong.


mortal type / jess   May 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

To attempt to negate another person's relationship is not free speech. To take away rights – to take away the possibility of certain rights from a specific group of people – is not the American way! At least not the way it was intended to be. Throughout the history of this country certain groups are singled out and discriminated against under the guise of free speech and protecting the "morals" of the American people.

To the haters: The marriage of two other people of the same sex should not interfere with your marriage or values! If you think it will, then you need to reexamine your own relationship instead of striving to limit the rights of other people.

In this country there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. (I say "supposed to be" because in the past 8 years or so, we've seen these protections crumble under the Bush administration.) You can say that God intended marriage to be for a man and woman, but for those of us who don't believe in your hateful interpretation, why should we have to live under your rule? Really when it comes down to the laws about same-sex marriage in this country, one specific religion should not be the deciding factor!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Boston Globe Articles explains it better than I can:
Well, let's see. The civil rights once denied to black Americans included the right to register as a voter, the right to cast a ballot, the right to use numerous public facilities, the right to get a fair hearing in court, the right to send their children to an integrated public school, and the right to equal opportunity in housing and employment. Have gay people been denied any of these rights? Have they been forced to sit in the back of buses? Confined to segregated neighborhoods? Barred from serving on juries? Subjected to systematic economic exploitation?

Plainly, declining to change the timeless definition of marriage deprives no one of "the civil rights once denied" to blacks, and it is an absurdity to claim otherwise. It is also a poisonous slur: For if opposing same-sex marriage is like opposing civil rights, then voters who backed Proposition 8 are no better than racists, the moral equivalent of those who turned the fire hoses on blacks in Birmingham in 1963.

If black voters overwhelmingly reject the claim that marriage amendments like Proposition 8 are nothing more than bigotry-fueled assaults on civil rights, perhaps it is because they know only too well what real bigotry looks like. Perhaps it is because they resent the assertion that adhering to the ageless meaning of marriage is tantamount to supporting the pervasive humiliation and cruelty of Jim Crow. Perhaps it is because they are not impressed by strident condemnations of "intolerance" and "hate" by people who traffic in rank anti-RELIGIOUS hatemongering.


gg singh   May 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

real marriage is indeed between man and a woman which has created the world. every gay or lesbian is born through them. if one loves same as them so be it for the sake of benefits but makes me wonder if we love our children should we have right to marry them? should we look for a scientific cure! or live and let live and have a right to our opinion without jeopardizing the cause and career.


Herb   May 1st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

They have the right to be just as unhappy as the rest of us married folks, don't they? (ha ha)


Joel   May 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

c'mon all of you. Don't tell me to read the bible. Don't tell me how to think about anything. I will make up my own mind. Just because you believe something, doesn't mean you're better informed than anyone else who believes otherwise. The proof is in how we treat each other and how happy we are in our own lives. Not how you interpret it based on your bias. enough ignorance. period.


Nancy   May 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

To Allie – Whilst I am neither a Democrat or a Republican, I find your remarks not only demeaning to a whole swath of people – all of whom I am certain you have not met, thereby making it a rather inane generalization – which makes you sound ignorant – which then just might lead folks to think (wrongfully so, I'm certain) – that you are not intelligent. My advice is not to respond in kind to other ignorant people


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

Man Originated the concept of gods and then used the concept of God to originate marriage, it’s MANKIND'S program, and we should go by our own rules.


Anant   May 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

to gordon: this country is no longer just "Christian" - again I love how so-called "Christians" are constantly pushing their theocratic agenda on the rest of the country. Who really cares what kind of conversations the crazy Baptists had with the founding fathers? ... anyone? anyone care? LOL -

Separation of Church and State are just that -- SEPARATION !


Iris Brissette   May 1st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

I APPLAUD Carrie Prejean for voicing her belief regarding same sex marriage, which belief the majority of Americans also hold. In light of California's ban on same-sex marriage, she did in FACT speak as a representative of California, the USA, and our Lord Jesus Christ.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

"It’s extremely DISRESPECTFUL to compare a person’s sexual preference to the color of my skin. I don’t have to prove or explain to anyone how the melanin content in my skin is NOT interchangeable. It is absurd & extraordinarily incomprehensible, how someone could compare our race to deviant sexual practices. They will hijack any real civil rights movements to garner sympathy for FAUX rights. They have every individual right that I have. DON’T EVER COMPARE THE COLOR OF MY SKIN TO YOUR SIN!"

Well one, stop yelling.
Two, yes inequalities are comparable across groups, deal with it. You can't change a gay person's mind any more than you can change a straight person's mind about sexuality. (Can we convert you to being gay?)

So... yes, the race/sexuality comparison is completely valid. Not 'faux' rights at all, unless you're referring to the haircut.


Jerry   May 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

1.Same-sex partnerships do not "equal" marriage between a man and a woman. A man and a women can have a child (new taxpayer) naturally without help from another. Same sex must have an outside source. The Media love arguements. Get the facts.
2.Just get the specific scriptures from the bible that all teach against same sex relationships.
3. Homosexuals are trying to legitimize their relationship to equal a true marriage.
4. Homosexuality is a "partnership", not a marriage. Get the definition right and instead of trying to change another word.


Joe (from Canada)   May 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

Marriage is defined by law of nature and it's purpose is procreation which invilves a male and female (man & woman). Anything else is merely oppinion – in this case oppinion of unnatural, ill and distorted minds. Too many oppinions (from sick minds) is bringing disorder and confusion to our society. Why for Gods sake does a small percentage of people (in this case homosexual) have to interfear with the natural law followed by the majority of people? Sombody's unnatural lifestyle can't change the law of nature and shouldnt change our laws. Why does a small minority dictate to and terrorize the majority of the human race with their unnatural behaviour? I accept gays as any other human beings (God's creation) but I don"t accept their unnatural behaviour and their influence in our society because homosexuality is a mental disorder, not a natural state.


Laurence   May 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

Since the beginning of recordered time marriage was ordained of God between a man and a woman to make bodies for his Spirit Children. What makes gays think they can change what God has put his stamp of approval on?


Judy Patterson   May 1st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

First of all, Ann Coulter is obnoxious and not NEARLY so smart as she thinks she is. And sorry Ann, you are not pretty. Make up and long bleached hair are not enough, although the long hair does help to camouflage your extremely long thick neck. As far as gay marriage goes-how do gay couples being married hurt or detract from from heteorsexual marriages? It takes nothing away from us. Generally marriage promotes fidelity which surely is a good thing among gay or straight people, in this day and age. Why deny others happiness? Regardless of how you interpret the Bible, one thing is perfectly clear: God proclaims Himself as the Judge. He instructs us to love one another. Even if you think homosexuality is a sin, you have no biblical right or direction to judge the 'sinner' --just the opposite. That should be between the individual and God. Remember, love one another, the rest is God's job. It is just a matter of time before gay marriage is legal in this country. It may take years or a decade or longer but it will come to be. In America these injustices( discriminations) are eventually unaceptable.


Claudia   May 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Claudia, Thank you for your thoughts and I agree! Truly agree with you!!!


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

@ David

I don’t see air but I know it’s there. I never said I was God’s messenger(although as a Christian I am to spread the word of God to all). I also never said I was a prophet.

I also didn’t say you should be interested in religion after all religion is just an organization. Faith is a gift God offers all us, it is our choice as to wether we accept his gift. Those who have faith in God, have faith in Jesus Christ and his death, ressurection & ascention into heaven will join with him in te end….those who don’t will burn in hell for eternity.

@Ann, actually we can see and feel air, physically. In a lab.
If we couldn't, we'd be absolutely stupid to believe in air.

You claim to be voicing god's opinions. So yes, you are claiming to be a prophet. You specifically did mention religion and not spirituality.

You still haven't proved god's existence or his message to me... so epic fail.


witchy woman   May 1st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

I would like there to be a federal civil union law. My male partner of 10+ years & I would gladly enter into a civil union (we are expecting our 1st child later this year) – if it was equal to the civil rights of those who enter into a marriage & if it was also available to our gay friends.


Sonja   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Perez and others like him are full of such anger and hate because everyone does not think or feel like them but instead are in balance with the natural affections between a man and a woman. They seem to hate everyone who does not join thier kinds of affections. Perez does no help promote thier cause. Ms. California should be able to say how she feels with being called a stupid blond . Seems like Perez either hates all beautiful women or just people who does not think like him.


Kevin   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

jUST LIKE THEY SAID; ITS EVERY ONES FREEDOM TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE THINKING, AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS ISSUE.


Jess   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Anytime you go on national TV and decide to share your opinion about gay marriage, race, religion etc. you just open a huge chat room basically.
Just like when you post something in a blog and people read it, they will reply – especially if they do not share the same opinion. You will have to deal with what you said and take peoples criticism – it just wont be on national TV. So deal with it Mrs. California.
Everyone talks about freedom of speech but there is no freedom to love whoever you want. Get over it people eventually gay marriage will become legal so the more open minded you are – the better off. Because in the end it will only make you mad.


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Again, try to figure out how to "naturally' create life with a member of you same sex. I don't know about you but I don't know too many of my male friends who have wombs nor too many of my female friends who can create sperm. Ugh. It's all too simple I cannot fathom how many people are so stupid particularly in this blog.


Edwin R. Sparks   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Gay "marraige" so called, would impact society by giving homosexuals a weapon that would attack the very core of our country. Lawsuits would be filed against churchs, who follow the tenets and guideance of the Holy Bible, aimming to silence all critisism of homosexual life style. People would be forced to hire, rent, provide services to individuals who hold to values counter to their own religious and moral views, under threat of law suits. Texts books, advertising, newspapers, and all communication would be impacted.
2 to 3 percent of our population should not be allowed to destroy what 5000 years of recorded history has been accepted as the norm for human and family relations.


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

James in Idaho-Again ( people are making assumptions about the nature of polygamy-which if compared to the assumptions that the gay community has face are equally valid and invalid depending which side of the fence you are on....there are many religious models of polygamous and andromynous marriages in current culture and through antiquity. Two of my friends from Africa have several mothers and it is a shared matriarchical/patriarchical household. The same in the mountain people in tibet where the woman Yak herder marries two husbands who leave the household for 6 months at a time and the three share the head role of the household...

Man and woman as the model for ANY marriage is the only model know of in history irrigarless of the number of partners...

Gay marriage will open the door to anyone who can demonstrate a violation of "human rights in my opinion..

Does individual human rights outway the rights of the community as a whole is my question?


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:11 pm ET

"I don’t have to prove or explain to anyone how the melanin content in my skin is NOT interchangeable."

That's how you were born; you cannot change it.
Being gay is how I was born; I cannot change it.

Same thing – neither can be changed.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:11 pm ET

Linwood May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

there go the liberals attacking people personally maybe you should look at all of the tax cheats on obamas cabinet

You can expect me to audit you in the coming months Linwood. Thanks for reminding me what I might have forgotten about since it is so low on the importance scale, until you brought it up...

knock, knock


Tess   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

The Bible, which is the infallible Word of God, clearly states that marriage is between a man and a woman. After all, when God saw Adam and said it was not good for man to be alone, he didn’t create another Adam to be his mate, but instead He created a woman!
God knew what He was doing!
God’s word says that if a man lies with a man and a woman with a woman that it is a detestable act in the the eyes of God.

Sin is sin. So what’s next? Will we begin to let murderers off the hook because they claim they were “born that way”? What about rapists? People who sexually abuse children? Where will this stop?

As far as I am concerned, God said it is wrong and that settles it for me.


A. Lewis   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

It use to be that the gays was the ones being ridicule, now its the other way around. Now because of gays in high places, some folks is


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

To bob at 10 pm good call God says that children are the possession of their father, it is our responsibility to teach them how to stand and walk righteously, It is our responsibilty to make them well rounded and teach them right from wrong. It is also our responsibilty to provide them with a well grounded financial start and not to put them in debt but to leave our beloved children with a good start.


AGGNYC   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Steven Baldwin saying that Jesus wrote the Bible is not only stupid but inaccurate.
It was written by monks in Greece 120 years later after the facts. So it is just a good story that has been translated, interpreted, and changed over the years to fit anyone's view.
And yes, two people who love each others, should be able to marry. It is just common sense


Patricia D Tate   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Mr. Baldwin in absolutely correct, we've gone from Gay Bashing to Gays Bashing anyone who holds to Traditional Christian Values. God never changes. He's the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. This isn't the first time in the history of the world that "Gay Rights" have risen among the people along with adultry, fornication etc.,etc. It marks the breakdown of the family, which marks the breakdown of the society and the decline of the civilization. Once our great country crumbles we'll all be on our knees, seeking God and taking the traditional, conservative road to recovery. Read your history, the Greek's Romans, the people we meet in Genesis were just like us. Since the beginning of time human behavior hasn't changed. I'm a liberal, African American woman who believes in civil rights, for everyone. We are all worthy of respect and equal opportunity to achieve the American Dream. However, I resent us given civil rights to what is considered by many to be an immoral sexual lifestyle. We all have our rights as men and women, but we don't have the right to change God's rules to satisfy our personal sexual pleasures. What you do in your bedroom is your business, what you bring into my living room is my business. You can sleep with whom ever you please but you can't make me think it has the right to be called marriage. God declared marriage to be a holy union between a man and a woman and we can't make him take it back because we change our laws. Why don't homosexuals agree to having a civil union with all the legal priviledges of family status, but leave marriage alone. If we don't stop it now, next we'll find someone wanting to unite with their dog, cat or gerble.


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

God's word is all there is brothers,live by it!!


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

Also,
The Bible is the WORD of God... Not the WORDS of God. He didn't write the book.


Mike B   May 1st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

William Thomas? are you the same guy that played Buckwheat ?
great show man..you making a comeback soon? or just being part of the problem?


Ken Willock   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

Those people that like to quote the bible and say that they are standing up for the sanctity of marriage and claim that the bible says that homosexuallity is "wrong", need to go back and actually read the bible. They also need to look at the animal kingdom which is full of
homosexual activity. I challenge anyone to show me where in the bible that Jesus said anything against homosexuals. His command was to love one another, to care for one another and to give freely as he has given unto you. I would also like to point out that in the old testament, which is where the main question of homosexuality comes up, it is okay for one to beat his "SLAVES" and to have many concubines (prostitutes), how does this sanctify marriage?


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

TO NEIL SCHNEIDER........THE TOPIC OF DEFINING MARRIAGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HATE. ........ EVERY ONE GETS IT ALL MIXED UP. ........... I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I DO NOT HATE GAY PEOPLE. ....... I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MARRIAGE CAN BE REDEFINED. ....... GAY PEOPLE ARE SINNING AGAINST GOD JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SINNER IN THE WORLD. ........GOD CALLS US TO REPENT, TO TURN AWAY FROM OUR SINS AND FOLLOW HIM. ......... AS A CHRISTIAN I LOVE THE SINNER AND HATE THE SIN......... THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRACTICING SIN AND CONTINUING TO LIVE IN YOUR SIN MOCKING GOD. .........THEN THEIR IS THE FOLLOWER OF CHRIST THAT REPENTS TURNS FROM THEIR SIN AND TRYS NOT TO HURT GOD WITH SIN BECAUSE THEY LOVE GOD. ....sin destroys lives....God doesn't want us to hurt ourselfs and He wants to have a relationship with us, that is why He created you....


Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

So funny that the "no big government", teabagging Conservos need "Big Brother" to define marriage for them.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

@Tony: Right on.


Morgan   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

While I am a supporter of equal rights for Gays and Lesbians, I felt that Ms. Prejean delivered an honest and very diplomatic response, and I am hurt at how quickly both sides of the debate have latched on to this poor girl, who tried her best to answer a question that would've landed her in hot water regardless of her answer.

For those who feel the treatment of Ms.Prejean is persecutorial in regards to her traditionalist beliefs, my response is this: You can not be persecuted when you hold all of the available rights in your hands. You can marry, and no government will ever threaten your right to do so; cease the drama.

For those who claim her response to be inconsiderate to Gays: she is entitled to her opinion, and you are losing sight of the fact that she glorified our country for providing the right in other states. She says herself that that one thing she loves about America is the ability Americans have, however limited it is at the moment, to choose between a hetero or homosexual union. She's on your side as an American, even if she can't support you with her faith.

Have some compassion, especially if you'd like to be spared some for yourself.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

@ckelly

"Does individual human rights outway the rights of the community as a whole is my question?"

That sounds like an argument I might make, and the answer is absolutely yes. We can only ever have rights as a community if all of us have equal rights as individuals first. Otherwise we are not living in a democracy. (In other words, we cannot vote on the one issue, "Is everyone equal?")


Melissa   May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

Also, to those who say that gay marriage should not be legal because gays can not have children.....If a heterosexual couple finds out one of them can not have children, should their marriage be annulled? Marriage is about LOVE not having babies. Parenthood is about haveing babies. Marriage and parenthood are NOT the same thing and should not be a basis of defining each other.


sam   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Carla Perez Miss California spoke from her heart what she believes. …. I agree with her. ….. What we can’t talk in America anymore? ……I can’t say how I feel anymore? ………What are you going to arrest any one who doesn’t agree with you? ……… What are we living with a bunch of little Hitler’s now? ………. What is going on with this country. …… FREE SPEECH…Agree to Disagree and get over it people…..@@@@ CARLA YOUR LAST NAME DISGUSTS ME AS I AM A LATINO PUERTORIQUEñO. WE ARE A PEOPLE OF COURTESY AND RESPECT FOR EVERYONE. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY TOURISM IN PUERTO RICO IS HIGH-RANKED. EVERYTIME I tell someome who's non-hispanic that I'm from Puerto Rico the first thing they say is " I love it there. the people there are so nice and friendly".. Thats because our parents teach us good morals. And as much as you think you're right with your free speech crap, free speech should always be used with good judgement. Go on a plane and say the word BOMB and see what happens. You think FREE SPEECH is going to save you from Federal Custody?? A gay man asks u a question about your feelings on gay marriage, and he holds your title (which she wasnt winning), you dont give a disrespectful answer like ".We live in a land that you can choose same-sex marriage...BUT IN MY COUNTRY....." So this is HERR Country?? And the rest of us live in land?? Screw Her!! The president of the US doesnt even use the term "MY COUNTRY"... SO IF THIS IS HOW YOUR PARENTS RAISED YOU, SHOW THEM YOU'RE BETTER. GIVE LATINO'S A GOOD NAME.


Angie   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

No offense Judy but, I am raising two sons and as a parent teaching my children, more confusion is the last thing they need as young men. We can love one another without causing confusion in our young children in my opinion loving one another means without violence to each other not to be attracted to one another.


Dr. Chris Galles   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

I love you ANN!! Come to Texas and let's have drinks!


Crystal   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

The fact is that the Bible is the truth. Wheither people want to believe that is up to them. God gave us free will. The Bible says being gay is wrong, end of story. It is up to christian's to tell people that. I still love gays the same, but I pray that they will turn to God and live right. It is sad to see america go down this road and let this happen. God Bless us all.


Toni Reeves   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Dear Larry,

Just because you are beautiful and a beauty queen in the world,
does not give you the right to make decisions for everyone else.
I would rather not see folks marry like this, but if two people could
love children as adults together as a couple with the same sex would be better than children unloved by a man and woman. Obviously I'm
focusing on children caught up in a debate about people who want to be adults in a relationship. It's sad, but its something we have to face in life- not all people think or look alike. Obama is a good President and I'm sure he would not want to be precious about this issue....


penny   May 1st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

I don't know a single gay couple that wants to get married. I know a great many that care about civil unions myself included. I say let the straights have the marriage, divorce,custody battles,allimony and attorney fees...


Dale   May 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

I believe that marriage is between Man & woman. Same sex is mentioned in the bible, God said in 1 Cor 6:9 Do not be deceived neither fornicators,nor idolators,nor adulterers,nor homosexuals,nor sodomites will not inherit the kingdom of God.


B.J.   May 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

First of all people need to stop with the attacks on people opposed to gay marriage. It's not for us to redefine the marriage law. God has set this law and marriage is between a man and a woman. I can't believe that want to be pastor, is ok with something God is not ok with, who by the way is not a pastor because God has not called a woman to hold a public ministry. God's bishops/pastors and deacons are to be the husband of one wife. The God of love still hates sin, not the sinner. God would have all to repent of their sin and turn to Jesus by faith that they may escape the torments of hell. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. None of us even deserve what God has done for us, now that's love people.


leo   May 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Relative to the minister invited to comment on Miss California's position on same sex marriage, he said that "God wrote the Bible,and that two people of the same sex who...etc., commit sin. " Initially, someone needs to let the minister know, (as he should know!) that God did not write the Bible! Clearly, as any scripturally well-educated
ordained clergyperson would know, the Bible was authored by human writers. Any good Bible commentary will explain this.

Clearly also, the minister's comment was not only simplistic, but erroneous.


Millie   May 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

I am in favor of gay marriage. I have seen some gay people stay
together longer than hetro. I think they have waited long enough.

There is a lot more in the Bible about loving each other than the few verses that the anti- gay use. And I also don't see that a gay marriage
will wreck man and woman marriages.


ROZZY   May 1st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Be careful what you mock. Marriage was instituted by the Creator and meant for "man" and "woman". Makes sense to most folk. How else could we reproduce another human being? Come let's reason together...follow the natural order of progression here. Man + Woman = Child! (3) Man + Man or "Woman + Woman = Impossible! (2). No procreation no continuity. And did someone mention dogs? They even know not to try to mate with their own gender. There is something very beautiful about seeing a man and woman in love! Beautiful! So natural. Same sex unions are futile and unproductive...maybe not...there is disease. Hmmmm. Oh and another thing why is it okay for everyone else to voice their beliefs except those of moral conscience? Dead cat on the line!
Kudos! Miss Cal. Stand your ground. You are not alone. Got a good lawyer?


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Carla Perez:
I know many gay people that are very religious. I am gay and go to a Catholic college.
So, there are gay people that believe in God. There are gay people that don't. There are straight people that believe in God. There are straight people that don't.
Why can't gay people marry, then?


Anonymous   May 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

you go, Tony!


Eric   May 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

claudiajoy California you are so wrong. You can change the color of your skin have you ever seen a black person who was in a fire? there skin has white spots where they were burned. How we forget that MLK was for the freedom of every American to be treated equal black, white, man, or woman. If he was still alive god rest his soul he would be for the rights of gays and lesbians as well.


Michael   May 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

@ Ann

You go girl.

It's funny how non-believers throw a fit when a person who has faith in Jesus Christ, tells them simply what we believe from the word of God. They don't see that it's always been about the choices that we all make. They also don't see that the creator of all, loves them so much, that He is willing to give them Exactly what they want...Seperation from Him!!!


Deb   May 1st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

In keeping with separation of church and state, all unions recognized by the state and federal govt should be Civil Unions. Any consenting adults should be allowed to form a civil union and have the same rights as any others. Take marriage off all government forms and replace it with Civil Union. If couples decide to have their union "sanctified" by a religious organization they can but the legality of the union and rights extended remain the same under the law. The religious can still get their "sanctified" union, same sex couples can have their civil unions like every other couple and both sides can stop all the derogatory banter.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

@ray
"Again, try to figure out how to “naturally’ create life with a member of you same sex. I don’t know about you but I don’t know too many of my male friends who have wombs nor too many of my female friends who can create sperm. Ugh. It’s all too simple I cannot fathom how many people are so stupid particularly in this blog."

So... why does that matter?


Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

I like Christ. I like Christians. I don't understand why Christians aren't more like Christ. Let's get the "love each other" command right first before we delve into other issues. Cheers, Peace, Love & Understanding to all here.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

to anant: This country was never just christian but they did not have the great confusions about democracy we have now, and I am not a so called christian if you think so try me I am well aged and grounded and understand the mysteries of creation. My papers against evolution had to be graded by scientists in college because they could not dispute science that they said "they could barely reach to that level of out of the box thinking"


Eric   May 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

For California, everyone has the right to be heard and speak thier mind when asked and to reply to a question you asked...Perez Hilton you are not a gay rights activist you are an embarrassement to the arguement


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Melissa:

Thank you 🙂


Amber   May 1st, 2009 10:18 pm ET

Everyone is being WAY too hard on Miss California.

Being a relative of gay family members and having gay friends I think it is hypocritical of people from the gay community to bash on her thoughts and feelings when they themselves know exactly how it feels to be criticized and tormented for being who they are.

We are human! Not robots, programmed to think exactly alike. Therefore Miss California deserves an apology.


mike North Carolina   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

you can believe anything you want to,GOD gave us that choice.
John 3:16 for GOD so loved the world that he gave his ONLY
begotton SON that WHOSOEVER believeth on HIM should not perish
but have EVERLASTING LIFE. GOD LOVES the SINNER but HE HATES SIN.Faith cometh by Hearing and Hearing by the WORD of
GOD.BELIEVE this or not:EVERY SOUL THAT REJECTS JESUS AS
THEIR PERSONAL SAVIOR AND DIES IN THEIR SINS HELL WILL BE
THEIR PLACE OF ETERNAL TORMENT THAT WILL NEVER END.
GOD WILL FORGIVE GAYS AND LESIBANS IF THEY REPENT AND
RECIEVE JESUS INTO THEIR HEART. DOCTORS THAT HAVE
ABORTED BABIES: REPENT AND AND LET JESUS COME INTO YOUR HEART OR YOU WILL FACE THOSE BABIES AGAIN

BELIEVE GODS HOLY WORD OR PERISH


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

"1.Same-sex partnerships do not “equal” marriage between a man and a woman. A man and a women can have a child (new taxpayer) naturally without help from another. Same sex must have an outside source. The Media love arguements. Get the facts.
2.Just get the specific scriptures from the bible that all teach against same sex relationships.
3. Homosexuals are trying to legitimize their relationship to equal a true marriage.
4. Homosexuality is a “partnership”, not a marriage. Get the definition right and instead of trying to change another word."

These are all your definitions (which you claim come from some god who you think wrote a book people call the Bible).

What if I ask you to prove all of this? You can't because it's all trash.


Angie   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

To David it matters because without straight people the world would come to an end Duh....


Gerard   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

Choice is one of the foundation of this country. If we oppress choice we might as well oppress freedom and set this country back houndred of years. Marriage is another word for commitment. Lets stop hiding behind God and his understand his words of tolerance.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

Bill May 1st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

In the bible…

It was Adam and Eve… Not Adam and Steve

James... In the bible... a human woman was turned literally into a pillar of salt and water was turned into wine and people were ressurected. History tells a different story.

It’s not a typo…

James... Actually, you would be correct, it is either a Scribe-o or artistic license... take your pick, both are far more likely.

What is the definition of marriage? Can it be defined? YES! The dictionary defines marriage as:

James... What is your source material?

marriage   

–noun

1. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

James... Begging the question... is that how it is truly defined or just what one person defined it as by subjective observation?

2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.

James... Agreed

3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of a man and woman to live as husband and wife, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.

James... Begging the question are there religions that officiate over same gender couples to marry? the answer is a resounding yes.

4. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage; homosexual marriage.

James... Agreed

5. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.

James... Agreed.

6. a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.

James... Agreed.

7. a blending or matching of different elements or components: The new lipstick is a beautiful marriage of fragrance and texture.

James... Yet another excellent example.

8. Cards. a meld of the king and queen of a suit, as in pinochle. Compare royal marriage.
9. a piece of antique furniture assembled from components of two or more authentic pieces.
10. Obsolete. the formal declaration or contract by which act a man and a woman join in wedlock.

Agreed.

The definition of Marriage is between Man and Woman.

Bill

James..... Hey James it seems you only agree with the first line and not those of equal standing. Imagine that.


Josh   May 1st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

You wouldn't choose to be disabled would you?
Would you walk 5000 miles if you had a car?
You wouldn't pick the short straw if you knew which one it was?
Then why would any anybody just CHOOSE to be gay?
Answer: THEY DON'T!


Rick   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

I am a member of a First Baptist Church and yes i am gay and the pastor knows my sexual preference. The reason i was told that the right to not want marriage between 2 people of the same sex is that if they were legally married according to the Bible it would not be a sin for them to have sexual relations together. People need to read thier Bible and understand what God is realy condeming the city's of Sodom and Gomorah for and it was not homosexuality but God did not like it that they people of the city's were haudy and would not help the poor and needy. Look at our economy now and you can blame the greed of the wealthy who hord their moeny away and do not help those in need. Wallstreet would not have failed and the world would be a better place if others helped the poor and needy. The wealthy will not take their riches with them when they die.


Zack   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Gay mariage is the evolution of human's understanding of the union between two loving each other individuals, which has been called "mariage".
The evolution in any aspect of life is a fact, no matter if humans like it or not.


Clare   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Marriage refers to the state of, or relation between a man and woman who have become husband and wife, and NOT the union of two men or two women. This is what marriage has been since the beginning of time, so quit trying to change the way things have always been since the beginning of this world just to accommodate the gays and lesbians. They can commit to each other through a civil union if they so desire, but just stop trying to change our laws to suit your way of life. Our children need both a Mother and Father to parent them, and not be brought up in a home with two Mothers, or two Fathers. That is the way I was brought up and that is what I believe to be God's will for us through his word.


Bo Story   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

on gay marriage. Your talking about a mother and a mother or a father and a father being ok! The natural use of men and women is to "Be fruitful and multiply" (Genisis 1:28). Two women can not "multiply" neither can two men!! Therefore, for two women to be together sexually or for two men to be together sexually goes against the natural use of men and women the way that our Heavenly Father intended that natural use to be!! God put us on this earth with certain sexual appetites and desires. And one of the chief purposes of this mortal probation is to see if we will bridal these passions and use them as autherized by Deity! And this authorization by Deity was meant to be and is still between a man and a woman who can actually carry out the commandment to "Be fruiyful and multiply and replentish the earth!" So by this alone, intellegence can extrapulate that marriage , as authorized by Deity, was and is even today meant to be between a man and a woman!! Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womenkind: it is abomination.:


Pat   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

We would like a public apology from CNN for insulting the intelligent viewing public by putting Ann Coulter on Larry King Live again! This was worse than any possible torture and almost as bad as voting Bush in to office twice.


Dan Hutto   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

I also heard Perez saying afterwards that Miss California should have said something more politically correct, such as she would leave it to the individual states to make their own decisions on the matter. I don't believe Miss California was asked what Perez thought should have been said....they asked her what she thought........who cares what Perez thought Miss California should have said.........I am so proud of her for saying what SHE thought, and believed, not what Perez thought should have been said.........You go girl!!!!!.....Dan in Florida.


CLAIRE   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

WHY WOULD EVERYBODY LEAVE MISS CALIFORNIA ALONE,THAT WAS HER OPINION,PLEASE RESPECT IT,WHAT ABOUT FREEDOM OF YOU OWN IDEAS,IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT SHE BELIVES IN THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER WRONG.JUST A DIFF OPINION, IF YOU THINK BY HER ANSWER SHE VIOLATED YOUR WRIGHT ,WHAT ABOUT HERS,IF SHE BELIVES IN IT.


Kwaku Mensah   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

There is a lot of hypocrisy out CNN (Larry King Live a platform for liberals/hollywood) and especially Americans: Americans applauds a president who went around sleeping with other women in the White House and lied to the whole world, but put men who are living with more than one woman and are truthful about it in jail. It is sad you vilify a president who went out to protect America. What do you gain washing your dirty linen in public? Why does the US think wisdom comes from Hollywood? They live in huge mansions, homes heated with gas, chalk huge utility bills and tell us how to protect the environment?! Why don't you talk about Dafur? Why does CNN raise the Palestinian issue but seldom tells the world about Dafur? May because you have Arabs all over the place.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

@Angie

Okay... well if everyone was gay, sure. But only 10% of people are gay... so problem solved.

Also, if the whole world was infertile, then the world would come to an end. But do we prevent infertile people from marrying?


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

@Angie

Okay... well if everyone was gay, sure. But only 10% of people are gay... so problem solved.

Also, if the whole world was infertile, then the world would come to an end. But do we prevent infertile people from marrying?


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

gay marriage is an OBAMAnation!!!


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

Angie and same-sex marriage opponents:

Have you thought of this – If gay marriage were legal, the economy would be better? There would be a whole new market for marriages. That means, more cakes, more tux or dress sales, more decoration sales, more sales of anything and everything that goes into a wedding. The gays are extravagant people, believe me, and there's not a doubt in my mind that a gay wedding would kick you hetero wedding in the ass.


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY....YOU ARE BORN MALE OR FEMALE....GAY IS CHOOSING TO HAVE SEX WITH THE SAME SEX....YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX WITH SOME ONE UNLESS YOU ARE BEING RAPED......IT'S CALLED HAVING SELF CONTROL PEOPLE.....JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO SOMEONE DOES NOT MEAN YOU MUST HAVE SEX WITH THEM.....OBEY GOD...OR YOU WILL REAP THE CONSIQUENSES....HE SAID IT....HE LOVES YOU BUT HE IS NOT MOCKED....HE IS A JUST AND RIGHTEOUS JUDGE......IF SOMEONE KILLED YOUR MOTHER AND THE MURDER WENT BEFORE THE JUDGE.....THE JUDGE MUST DO THE RIGHT THING......


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

And one more thing. Does anyone know what kind of test I need to take to prove that I am or am not gay? I would like to marry my friend though I am not sexually attracted to him and am very much straight otherwise. What sort of test exists that proves that one is gay?


Crystal   May 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

Also to the people that are taking about the Roman's. That is why there empire fell. Because of so much sin. They lost sight of God.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

@ray
If you are turned on by guys, you are gay. Not hard at all. Also, still waiting for a response to my last post from you.


Hassan   May 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

gay marriage advocates are worst than the Taliban.....they are a threat to freedom of speach....... Wake up people..its a revolution, get down or lay down.... Miss California is an example.......


Angie   May 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

To David reality is the whole world is not infertile. Second you said in your own words that only 10 percent is gay now lets see if gay was supposed to be dont you think more people would be gay. Its a medical condition lack of male or female hormones.


T Elle   May 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

Ken Willock May 1st, 2009 10:13 pm ET

You mentioned the animal kingdom, so what, are you an animal? Why is it that your rhetoric attempts to justify by comparisons with animals, black slavery, hemaphradites??? There is no comparison for the choices of homosexuals. All that has been discribed happened to them, it was not a choice they made!!!


Dolores   May 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

The notion of a man with a man or women with a women well iit's just abominable, wow go figure that's just how God our creator put's it an abomination, an abominable act nothing natural about it, that's why it still as creepy and uncomfortable as it was 1000 + years ago. We all have a God given right to choose for ourselves, but I totally trust him to know how and what we were created for. God is love, but he's also just and what he says goes he's not up there saying let's make a deal, he's saying this is the deal. You can freely choose the truth or freely choose to be deceived.


WANT MY RIGHTS TOO   May 1st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

The gays already have contract right and can now have full insurance, pension, medical partner right. the same as a married man and women. This is our HOLY OF HOLY'S and who do they think that they are to take this away form ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our Heavenly Father says that to lay with the same sex is a sin.......I is even against nature......Why is a Guy person more important than ME!!!!!!!!! I am IMPORTANT TOOO AND HOW COME THEY GET TO RAPE ME AND MY VALUES........JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN YELL LOUDER?????? AND BY THE WAY LARRY'S GUEST HOST JOY IS A ...............HOW DARE SHE........WHEN SHE IS ON I WILL NOT WATCH LARRY'S SHOW. SHE HAS NO GUILT AND IS QUITE IGNORANT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME


PHILIP   May 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

God has no other definition for marriage except that between a man and his wife. After the creation of Adam and Eve He said."Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Gen 2:24). Jesus, Son of God, confirmed this in Matthew 19:5. Marriage is between man and wife. As far as God, the Bible and believers are concerned, nothing has changed.

Dictionaries define marriage as "the mutual relation of husband and wife."

What right do certain groups (who want to redefine certain traditional values) have that they must impose their views on others, and viciously attack others who do not agree with them?

I believe we have come to the last stage of human history where God is going to separate the sheep from the goats. Jesus, who is coming soon to judge the quick and the dead, said in the closing page of the Bible,".....the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." (Rev 22:10-11). But God is gracious and merciful. His final word is "COME." THERE IS STILL TIME FOR REPENTANCE.

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Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

Are we arguing definitions in a book, be it the dictionary or the Bible? Or how it pertains to a healthy social society as our own. Yes I said healthy–we're not Nazi Germany, Amsterdam, nor Somalia.


Karen   May 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

To those who profess to be preserving "traditional marriage": Your marriage is not threatened unless you yourselves do something to threaten it. I don't understand why you devote so much time on a campaign to deprive others of the happiness and security that a loving, nurturing, committed relationship can bring to one's life. I am offended by Miss California's self righteous remarks about same-sex marriage - as a Christian, a Californian, an American, and a heterosexual married woman. Ms. California spoke as if God were on her side. I believe that her remarks and her beliefs are the antithesis of Christ's teachings. I can't figure out why these so-called Christians choose a few passages (out of context) to take literally out of all the Bible's passages that they do NOT take literally. Regardless of her or my religious beliefs, thank God we have a secular government and not the theocracy that these "Christians" would like to impose on the rest of us.


sylvia edwards   May 1st, 2009 10:25 pm ET

I applaud the USA contestant for speeking her mind.I really do not understand the rude and beligerent response coming from people with the opposite view point as hers. This is a free country , a melting pot of many different religions and many different view points we are forced to tolerate. She has the right to say i am against gay marriage just as anyone has the right to say they are for gay marriage. She said she did not want to offend anyone. She was nice about it why can't those with the other view point be as tolerable of her?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Dan May 1st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

If someone wants to argue that gay marriage is ok then I’ll have to say that polygamy is also ok. If people have the right to marry anyone they want then we also have the right to marry as many people as we want, without restrictions. If you legalize gay marriage, the next movement will be to legalize polygamy, be prepared!

James... no need to worry then Dan cause romney was voted against for the very reason that people don't want a single man humping himself into office. 😉


Wendy   May 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

What the heck does it mean that my comment is "awaiting moderation"? The Bible was written by man, the "inspiration if you want to call it that" came from God. You can twist any scripture from the Bible around to suit your own personal or political agenda, and sadly, a lot of people do. Why don't more people just read the Bible for themselves and learn God's word?


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

@Carla
Gay is defined as being attracted to the same sex. That's the definition. Not having anal sex. Not being married to the same sex. Just pure attraction. You cannot change it, regardless of what you actually do.

It is not a choice, and you are making tons of logical fallacies. I'd encourage you to take a middle-school class on logic before answering back. Also, let's not use caps lock. It's a little annoying.


Marilyn Treadaway   May 1st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Ann Colter may be a bit radical in what she has to say, but I agree with most of what she has to say. As my Aunt Emma used to say, "Ann, You're just a mess in the books". LOL!


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Correction... Hey Bill it seems you only agree with the first line of the definition, and not those of equal standing that follow. Imagine that.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Carla Perez

You are an idiot! I was born gay, actually. So was every gay person I know. WHY WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE DISCRIMINATED? Seriously? I have NEVER been attracted to a woman. Ever. I choose to have sex with one man, my boyfriend, because I am in love with him. There's my self-control.
I believe in God, Carla. And I believe that God wants me to be happy and be myself. I go to a Catholic college, my best (gay) friend majored in Theology and works at a church. There are a few gay monks at my school. Don't tell me God doesn't accept gays; it's not true at all. God made me gay, like it or not.

Your ignorance is silly.


Art   May 1st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

LiKe I said read Carla Perez comments!! I agree and give it two thumbs up!


Eric   May 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

I wonder for so many to be preaching about what is a sin, how easy it is for those who commit the sins against what they believe to be the word of GOD that they commit adultery, steal, and lie how easy it is to say I'm sorry GOD and go out and do it again and again and again. Do you think that just saying your sorry washes your sins away? I don't buy it and I'm sure GOD doesn't either.


james   May 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

when are we going to understand the difference between a vagina and a rectum are we that confused in the 21 century


CLAIRE   May 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

I MEANT TO SAY WHY DON'T THEY LEAVE MISS CALIFORNIA ALONE.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

And legalizing homosexuality and homosexual marriage is great for the economy as paul wrote the former homosexuals and other sexually immoral recieved in their bodies the due punishment for their sins, that certainly sells more medicines though God doesn't do that in order to boost our economy. He is desperately hoping those individuals will repent= a complete change of heart, mind, and attitude towart God and sin resulting in a inevitable change of conduct for example a ceasing of the sexual immorality, the economy is hardly a reason to legalize such things.


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

TO SAM.......thanks for proving my point.


Tony   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

One more monkey wrench for you all–bisexual people–can they get married and to whom? Hermephodites and transsexuals? Come on overlord-wannabes, define that for us all too.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

David J:
I'm glad we agree on Carla... She really needs to stop with all caps all of the time.
My ears hurt from all of her shouting.


Anthon Warouw   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

I believe the Bible is the only Words of God for all human being. "All Scrip
ture is given by inspiration of God,and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,
for correction,for insruction in righteousness,(2 TIMOTHY 3:16) and this
verse should be the basic moral for genuine Christian.
And in the beginning God created male and female (GENESIS 1:27) and
God said to Adam and Eve,"Be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and subdue i;.... So God did not created male and male or female and female to fill the earth.. Christian God is God of love,he love human being, thats why He send His only begotten Son that who died on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago. So human will have everlasting live
by believe in Jesus Christ. God hate sins. He will not comprommise with sins. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicator,nor idolaters,
nor adulterers,nor homosexuals,nor sodomites,nor thieves,nor covetous,nor drunkards,nor revilers,nor extortioners will inherit the Kingdom of God. ( 1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10)


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

@david

You must be kidding. If you need a response you are completely crazy and not just by a little. If marriage is defined by two people who can create life by natural means then if someone has to explain that to you than you are worse off than anyone has the right to be. Try this on for size, If I am claiming to be gay in a court case I want to know what test exists to prove that I am or I am not.


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Let's all set aside religion, I was agnostic for years, as so many others who voted YES on Traditonal Marriage.

Call me a Proud California 70%, Proud Bible Thumper, or A Voter.
Put it on the ballot & lets see what happens. As long as I have a vote, I will vote my belief. PERIOD . POINT ! BLANK ___

Ms. California is the best thing that happened to Californians, now the world can see that we are more then San Francisco & Hollywood.


Gerard   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Hassan how can you compare the two? Does gay marriage brain wash poeple into bombing poeple.?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

gordon May 1st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Marriage is not, nor was it ever a civil institution. It is and was and has been a religious institution. Not even kings had power over marriage. Look at Henry the eighth he was wicked and even he knew that he had no power over the marriage covenant. Now paul of the new testament described homosexuality as the farthest level of sexual deprivation. Further more, I don’t not want my son or daughter to think that it is at all ok or even acceptable as paul instructed the church to remove all sexually immoral from membership in the church.

James... Actually Gordon, they ALWAYS had power over Marriage and simply chose not to use it for fear of retaliation from the foaming and violent masses. their decisions not to interfere in most cases was a healthy dose of fear, and a greater willingness to exploit them through religion.


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

perez hilton couldn't get a girlfriend,he was forced to turn to men:).


Billy   May 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

David, you out in left field somewhere? A man and a woman creating a new taxpayer?

About your 3

1) If we let the gays marry, we will have to let people marry animals.
2) Gay marriage is wrong because god told me so.
3) Gay marriage is the same as polygamy.

1.) Animals are part of families already, and loved as such.
2.) God has actually spoken to you about Gay Marriage? Hmmm
3.) Gay Marriage would be between two people.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   May 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Carla Perez May 1st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY….

JAMES>>> YES< YOU ARE, THAT IS IF YOU'RE GAY. OTHERWISE, YOU'RE BORN STRAIGHT!!!!!


Forbes Skinner   May 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Marriage is a religious union between a man and a waman. That's the only true definition. It is basically two people of opposite sex coming together with the blessing of a supreme being and getting a devine permission to be involved in the sexual act of perpertuating the species.

Same sex couples cannot and do not get that blesssing. It has nothing to be with the love for humanity because if you are a murderer, religions and indeed society, would call you a sinner and ask you to repent. In the case of the murderer, mankind cannot see the heart and cannot proclain on a person's forgiveness but the act of same sex couples coming together is glaring to the persons obvious sins.

Atheists should not be considering marriage because it is ordained by a supreme being. Sinners who believe in a supreme being get away with marriage because humans cannot see the heart and also there is also the chance to repent and get forgiveness. Repentance and forgivness in a gay union means the couple must seperate. Bottom line, this sin is the most glaring.

Marriage has nothing to do with who gets the house when one person dies and all the legal stuff. Those legallity were attached later and are mostly assumed. Hindus and Muslims still go through the religious/ceremonial act of marriage without signing the legal stuff. Those legallities are outside the realm of marriage and is done at a different time and sometimes not at all.

Giving marriage rights to gays is sacrilegious because marriage and the legalities attached are separate. If a gay couple wants to legalise their union they can simply get an attorney and sign the documents. Because their act of same sex is an affront to the true meaning of marriage this should not be tolerated.


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

@ray

One phrase: infertile straight people. What do you do with them?

Also, I told you the test. If you are sexually excited by guys, you are gay.

I gotta head out but I'll be back later if you're actually wanting discourse.


Posey Thomson   May 1st, 2009 10:32 pm ET

Hi Joy,
I just love you. Your funny, intelligent and I watch you everyday on the View. When is there going to be conversation regarding pageants.....I honestly will never watch miss America or any other pageant again because the majority of them have altered their bodies. Since when did pageants pay for breast implants etc. Where do we draw the line. My own daughter has breast implants and is absolutely gorgeous but I would never vote for her simply because I think these women should be natural, that is, their bodies and face. Hair extensions, hair color, teeth whitening, spray tan is not cutting up the face or body. I am ashamed of the pageant for sending the wrong message to our young girls. I feel that only natural women should be given the Tiara.....not the altered ones. It is so blaytently obvious that Miss California and many of the other contestants are not displaying their real selves. I would really like to see women embrace their bodies....what they were born with. Thanks so much, Posey


David J (the poster formerly known as "David")   May 1st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

@Billy
I am pro-gay marriage. Reread my post.


A. Lewis   May 1st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

This thing about same same sex marriage has gotten out of hand,
what it really balls down to ; is that you prefer having sex with your self.
You want the world to agree to your nasty behavior . How dare you call
same sex marriage a civil right "


Dave & Lisa   May 1st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

Let's stop re-defining words! We need to call things as they are. Political correctness is cowardice. Webster's original dictionary from 1828 gives great definitions for all our words. Here are some of them with proper definitions:

MAR'RIAGE, n. [L.mas, maris.] The act of uniting a man and woman for life; wedlock; the legal union of a man and woman for life. Marriage is a contract both civil and religious, by which the parties engage to live together in mutual affection and fidelity, till death shall separate them. Marriage was instituted by God himself for the purpose of preventing the promiscuous intercourse of the sexes, for promoting domestic felicity,and for securing the maintenance and education of children.

Marriage is honorable in all and the bed undefiled. Heb.13.

1. A feast made on the occasion of a marriage.

The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king, who made a marriage for his son. Matt.22.

2. In a scriptural sense, the union between Christ and his church by the covenant of grace. Rev.19.

GAY, a.

1. Merry; airy; jovial; sportive; frolicksome. It denotes more life and animation than cheerful.

Belinda smiled, and all the world was gay.

2. Fine; showy; as a gay dress.

3. Inflamed or merry with liquor; intoxicated; a vulgar use of the word in America.

SOD'OMY, n. A crime against nature.


Art   May 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

@Brian

Whoa watch the tone. OUCH! Be nice. Now I don' now how you was born gay... I don' see how that possible, logically. I wasn't born smart, nor a killer. Is a killer born that way. A mass murder... I by choice right...


sam   May 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

How many people here would award me Mr. Congeniality if you were the judge and you asked me my opinion on fat people, AND YOU'RE FAT, and i respond with "WE LIVE IN A LAND WHERE PEOPLE LOVE TO EAT CRAP ALL DAY AND PUSH MAXIMUM DENSITY BY AGE 14...BUT IN MY COUNTRY WE EAT RIGHT AND STAY SLIM"??? HONESTLY, would you still vote me in??


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:34 pm ET

A. Lewis,
Marriage is not about sex, it is about love.

Your ignorance, like Carla's, is also quite silly.

Come on.


Wilma Rhea   May 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

No i do not believe in same sex marriage.Marriage is husband and wife not husband & husband or wife & wife.It makes me sick to see what this world has become.We are living in our last days and these people need to read their bible,stop twisting GODS word for his word is the only word.Wilma.


Mary   May 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

Angela, you want to know what to call living with your male partner for the past 25 years. FORNICATION!

Like Perez Hilton – If you don't want to hear the truth, DON'T ASK!!!

Perez Hilton is getting just what he deserves from Carrie Prejean- Compassion and Prayers.


Gerard   May 1st, 2009 10:35 pm ET

We say government is to involved in our lifes and we want the government to tell us who we can marry. Let put it on the ballot over weight people should pay twice as much taxes the thin people. Lets remember freedom of choice and pursuit of happiness.


globarrvers   May 1st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

In the Old Testament the people practiced polygamy. However, polygamy is against the law in the USA. Why doesn’t our country follow the Old Testament and allow the practice of polygamy? Because we have separation of church and state.

In the New Testament, several times Jesus told the men not to divorce their wives. In Matthew 19:13 He said, “What God has joined together, let man not separate.” Yet, divorce is legal in this country. Why do we legalize a practice that goes against the teachings of Jesus? Because we have separation of church and state.

People can be against same-sex marriage all they want; if they don’t believe in same sex marriage, they should not marry someone of the same sex. But because we have separation of church and state, same-sex marriage should be legalized.

Same-sex marriage is not a religious issue—it is a legal one. Churches do not issue marriage licenses; the state does. Churches have always had, and will continue to have, the right to deny performing a marriage ceremony if they disagree with the couple.

However, there are over 1,000 rights that same-sex couples are denied because they are denied the right to marry each other. Legalizing same-sex marriage will truly make the USA a country with “liberty and justice for ALL.”


Amy   May 1st, 2009 10:36 pm ET

God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Marriage was created by God and The United States of America was founded on biblical principles. That's what is wrong with this country today is that we want to "CHANGE" what has made this country so wonderful. Freedom of speech gives everyone the right to speak out for what they believe however your opinion does not change the truth just because you want to believe a certain way. You can believe that if you throw a ball up into the air that it will not come back down but we all know that is not the truth.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

No one was ever born gay, homosexuals become that way due to a number of enviromental factors that those individuals come into contact with combined with family and friend factors and choices. it is like any other addiction and is pleasing chemically to the brain. A few years ago I met a girl terribly tormented of sexual addiction, people would come over every day and take advantage of her playing pornos and giving her alchohol to make her horny both males and females alike, she was simply unable to resist, I offered her relief from it and she accepted. The next time I saw her was two years later she ran up and thanked me and asked me how I did it, though she knew I prayed on her. She gladly proceeded to tell me of how it immediately lost its power and she had stayed pure from the day she had met me.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

@Art

Homosexuality and murder are not the same thing. Committing a murder is a choice. I was born gay, not a choice.

Also, the punctuation of your comment shows me you weren't born smart.


Ron Anderegg   May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

The reason the authors of the Bible (kings, priests & generals) were so anti-homosexual, is because they wanted bigger armies to go out and conquer and spread their point of view on the World.

Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. It was the "editors" of the Bible who added it in the writings.


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

Dear @david,

Do yourself some good and do try to get a life and if you can't seem to find one then please do crawl into a hole and do all humanity a favor and stay there. You are indeed as they say, a "moron".


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

DAVE AND LISA,THANKS FOR THE TRUE DEFINITIONS:)


Billy   May 1st, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Well, when the time comes I will invite anyone opened or not to my gay wedding. Everyone has the right to happy.

You all have nice evening.


Angie   May 1st, 2009 10:39 pm ET

I agree with you Ray.


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 10:39 pm ET

@ David J

lolol...I really had a giggle with this one:

@ray
If you are turned on by guys, you are gay. Not hard at all. Also, still waiting for a response to my last post from you

We are all sexual beings and may or may not have sexual feelings towords another person of either sex...just as there are sexual feelings often aroused during breast feeding-its how we behave and make sense of those intimate feelings that determines our character. Mature adults know who they are...that is why being a homosexual (actively) is both a predisposition and a choice... It is both feelings and behavior and people make sense of their sexuality in different healthy or destructive ways...

If a person is homosexual fine: homosexuality is not a crime nor is it a lifestyle that is necessarily detrimental to the individual or the community..it is no longer a disorder...it is accpeted as both a way of understanding sexual PREFERENCE, and sexual behavior.

A homosexual is equal under the law as a citizen, however there are laws in place to support the community, as a whole. I can not see how condonement of homosexual marriage helps the community as a whole. Yes, there are opinions-bu the moral and legal acceptence is a unhealthy path for our culture in my view. What will be the cost to the community once the accepted definition of marrige is changed? But many who have a dog in this fight-are concerned for themselves and not history, biological childbirth and traditional family values and not the repercutions to the marriage law, rights, benefits, costs, family etc down the road.

Just because you have the power (lobby groups) doesn't give you the right.


david of oxford ala   May 1st, 2009 10:41 pm ET

marriage is suppose be between a man and a women and not same sex. if nature know the difference between male and female. then so what is our excuse as human .


Art   May 1st, 2009 10:42 pm ET

@Brian

Brian you funny.... You were not born gay as much as you would like to think. LOL!!


Dan Hutto   May 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Hey Joyce......Stephen Baldwins opinion matters as much as anyone elses..........even yours............Thank you. Dan in Fl.


Kwame Asamoah   May 1st, 2009 10:43 pm ET

If being gay is sin, so is stealing, fornication, lying, killing and to mention but few. How could anyone hate gay and not the others? Judgement is not for anyone under this sun, it is for God.

One thing I want advocates for gays to understand is that the word MARRIAGE as in english dictionary (Mariam Webster) means the mutual relation of husband and wife. The institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of maintaining a family.

If any gay person(s) want to get together, they must find another word to express that kind of union. In the mean time, marriage is booked for man and woman. If you need help, I will say SOCIAL PARTNERSHIP.


Jasleen   May 1st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

It is atrocious that the Bible is being into the discussion about gay marriage. This is an American country, not a Christian country...this is a country which is constitutionally free from religion. This country was founded by men who were escaping religious persecution and wanted to form a secular nation which was free from religion!

The constitution is what should be the topic, not the bible. Bringing famous stars, figure-heads, or known faces who talk about what they believe in because of the bible is just as ridiculous as me talking about the Tooth fairy and rationalizing withholding American rights.


Judy Patterson   May 1st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

Angie, loving one another surely encompasses more than not being violent to one another. Loving one another certainly does not mean being "attracted to one another" and that has nothing to do with what I said. It means you leave the judging to God and you love the person, gay or straight. Your boys will understand if you explain. It shouldn't be difficult.


Eric   May 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Oh gordon I didn't catch where you earned your degree in psychology! please tell us where and how long you have been licensed therapist. Homosexuality is a choice get real.


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

TO BRIAN IN MINNESOTA.......MORE THAN YOUR OWN SELFISH HAPPINESS....GOD WANTS YOUR OBEDIENCE.....BECAUSE WHEN YOU DENY YOUR OWN SELFISH WAYS AND OBEY HIM.....THAT IS WHEN YOU WILL SHOW GOD THAT YOU TRULY LOVE HIM AND HIM ALONE........


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:45 pm ET

okay now you cannot change your gender so there so there are no trans sexuals check their genetics, they have a gender though they have mutilated their bodies and they must change back and marry according to their gender now for the other hermaphrodites we must take mercy on them and there are after all a number of reasons they are that way and though their genetics tell us the easiest clue to their gender and who says they want to marry anyhow they may not but deep inside they will know their own gender most of the time our doctors are going one way or the other ahead of time though


JL   May 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Let me get this straight: Stephen Baldwin, actor, said, "God wrote the bible" tonight on Larry King Live. Really, Stephen? Did he? Did he sit at his mahogony desk on his big, white cloud and bash out that bible? Or did the disciples of Jesus write down their thoughts and impressions, thus creating The Bible....one version of MANY Bibles, I might add. I don't know what Bible Stephen Baldwin subscribes to, but it is obviously one that preaches hate, ignorance, intolerance and stupidity as those are the hallmarks of his ill-fated appearance tonight. Gay marriage does not threaten anyone. It is a basic human right that we should all uphold and protect. I find bigoted statements like Baldwin's and the other knuckle-draggers to be the REAL threats to our freedom.


Gail Athas   May 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

About Miss California... I guess no one can have their own opinion without being scrutinized by the media. What a shame. We are not all Politicians... we should be able to speak about the Values we have been raised without judgment... but not so today. EVERYONE must be "Politically correct" in order not to be criticized. A shame for our counrty...


Helen Dixon   May 1st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Danny Gans, like Elvis, Glenn Gould, Judy Garland, Heath Ledger, Bernie Mac and many others that "gave their all" every time they ever performed, all seemed to "flame out" just like the magnificent falling meteors, or the comets that we see shoot across a summer night's sky. And like those gorgeous marvels speeding in the Heavens, when we look up and catch a view of them, for just a moment; we know that they will flame and seem to burn out just from the miraculous wonder of their power and beauty! Dear Danny, and the other angels that went before him, were perhaps just too talented, too great, too brilliant and bright to last until they grew old. But what a miracle they were while they were among us! You were such a gift, so loved and appreciated by so many, and will be missed! Bless you for the giving of yourself so extraordinarily, generously, and unselfishly to your family, friends, and the fans that all adored you for it! You gave your all, every time! Now, Rest In Peace, Dear Man. GODSPEED, Danny Boy, GODSPEED!


Andre   May 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Marriage by definition is a legal/ romantic relationship between a one man and one woman. That is the definition. The issue is that a group of people who have access to the media are trying to aggressively change that definition.

Is this a religious issue, of course it is. You approach every thing in life with judgment as a human being and religion only helps us determine those definitions and morals. As humans we make judgments all the time. I will give you a simple example and a very pungent one. Most of those who consider this issue being debated concerning marriage as not being a issue between what is right and what is wrong typically believes in no absolutes which is an impossibility. If they were no absolutes how could you judge rather my believe concerning marriage is wrong to them. Of course that is not possible. You have to believe in right and wrongs, good and bad or you could not make a judgment about anything and we are making judgments all the time or you will just believe anything I say.

My conclusion is that this is a cleaver way of rejecting Judao/Christian values that our country was founded on one issue at a time. This is about morality not civil rights. Those who oppose same sex marriage are not bigots that are exercising a moral judgment. Trust me I know I bigot when I see one because I am African American.


Marjorie L. Coppock   May 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Heterosexual marriage is primarily a social issue. It becomes a religious concern and a political concern because it is a foundation for social integration, social freedom, social reproduction and social health.
The normalization of homosexuality would create profound changes in social organization that warrant caution and serious consideration rather than the heated arguments that are being generated.
SOCIAL INTEGRATION: The traditional family is the building block for the integration of society as members grow in understanding of various perspectives within the family. As men relate intimately to men and women to women, social disintegration will occur. In spite of immense variation within the sexes, there remain fundamental differences in biological and emotional makeup. Heterosexual marriage integrates these elements into a caring unit.
SOCIAL FREEDOM: The family preserves and passes down it's unique cultural values to the next generation, providing checks and balances in society which guard against destructive extremes. Homosexuality will jeopardize the intergenerational transfer of cultural patterns within society.
SOCIAL REPRODUCTION: Homosexuality will jeopardize social reproduction and the intergenerational transfer of genetic patterns. Reproduction within the homosexual union will neccessitate contrivance and manipulation, buying and selling.
SOCIAL HEALTH: Personal health risks associatated with homosexual behaviors are deeply troubling. According to the AMA, homosexual youth are 23 times more apt to contact a sexually transmitted disease than their heterosexual counterparts. In the U.S., men having sex with men account for 70% of estimated HIV infections, although only 5-7% of men identify themselves in this way.
CAUTION IS WISDOM: Countless research studies confirm that the greatest sources of nurture, support and meaning for the majority of Americans are found within the traditional family unit. Legal constraints maintain a sense of appropriateness. Extending the range of permissible behavior will put in jeopardy social integration, freedom, reproduction and heatlh.


steve huska   May 1st, 2009 10:47 pm ET

awaiting moderation? don't bs a....very stange(rabid) cat coulter be


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Point to ponder (for those with any sort of critical thinking ability):

If same sex were to be biologically the "norm" then can someone explain to me how we all were to come into being? Please note, I am not against people who for for one reason or another are "attracted" to those of the same sex but thank God for the "straight" people for without them we would not exist.


joyce   May 1st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

So sad. i thought meghan mccain made her disappear, come on meghan, do not let her stamp out your voice, ann coulter is so polorizing, just like rush, billo, hannity, they've ruined the republican party, i'm a strong believer in a two party system as i'm sure everyone is, i am a proud liberal democrat and i,m 55yrs old and beautiful young meghan mccain is the only one making sense, c'mon people we're all in this big leaky boat together, remember united we stand divided we fall, so stand up meghan be loud , unite, maybe when you're older you will be the first female president, god bless you, god bless the President and GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, emphasis on UNITED..........


adrienne   May 1st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Many gay people get married in religious ceremonies that are not recognized legally. Marriage in the civil sense is nothing more than a legal contract. We could save ourselves a lot of time and money by letting gays marry.


Kitty   May 1st, 2009 10:51 pm ET

Joy you are always delightful, it was great to see you. Unfortunately I don't watch you on The View because the other women give me a headache. I was disappoined that you didn't call out Ms. Moakler for revealing private medical information about Miss Prejean. She should not get away with that. As a pageant director it was totally unprofessional and I think she should be fired.


jon   May 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

brian, i would rather be born dumb like Art than foolish like you,change your ways bro before it's too late for you.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

@Carla

Again, enough with the caps. It's highly annoying.
I don't really know what to say to you. Wouldn't God want you to accept people as they are and love them? We probably don't have the same God, then. Too bad.

@Art

What are your qualifications to tell me that I was or wasn't born a certain way? Do you have a degree or something in human development? Or are you using your close-minded thoughts to form 'facts'?


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

homosexuality is a choice, but it is also a spiritual disorder after someone degrades themselves sexually and becomes so deprived the addiction set in it is similar to the same chemical reactions in the brain that take place during heterosexual sex though it has to feel more dirty and somewhat wrong for them to recieve this pleasure and I did study psychology for many years mainly trying to understand women though independently and it is actually in their though


Norman Dill   May 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

My Bible, God's word, states that homosexuality is strickly forbidden
along with other sexual relations which are an abomination ,or a sin.

read the following:

1-Leviticus 18:22 "thou shall not lie with mankind , as with womankind"

2-Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave themup unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that thich is against nature: 27, And likewise also the men , leaving the natural use the women, burned in their lust one toward another -–;

2-.


Norman Dill   May 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

My Bible, God's word, states that homosexuality is strickly forbidden
along with other sexual relations which are an abomination ,or a sin.

read the following:

1-Leviticus 18:22 "thou shall not lie with mankind , as with womankind"

2-Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave themup unto vile affections:for even their women did change the natural use into that thich is against nature: 27, And likewise also the men , leaving the natural use the women, burned in their lust one toward another -–;

2-.


zoe   May 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Thank you to Stephan Baldwin for quoting God's word!

God made man and woman. We can all agree that each is made uniquely different – in mind, body, thought , perception, etc. Together they become one- whole (balanced). Selfishness and self justification get in the way as to what is and what God says is!


Joe Vidanes   May 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

A GAY THING IS MERELY ONE'S SEXUAL PREFERENCE AND ATTRACTION TO THE SAME SEX. TO THE NORMAL PEOPLE, A HOMOSEXUAL OR GAY PERSON COULD BE A SIGN OF MENTAL ILLNESS OR CONFUSION OR A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE. THAT TRIGGERS THE MIND TO DO UNCONVENTIONAL THINGS. MAYBE THEY REALLY NEED HELP BUT THEY'RE TO PROUD TO ACCEPT IT. OR MAYBE THEY JUST SIMPLY DONT WANT TO CONFORM TO THE NORM. SO LET THEM BE GAY IN THEIR OWN WAY. BUT FOR SOCIETY TO ACCEPT IT AS THE 3RD SEX AND FOR GOVERNMENT OR STATE TO ALLOW GAY MARRIAGES IS TRULY SICKENING. THESE LAWMAKERS SHOULD STOP READING LAWBOOKS AND START READING THE BIBLE. NO RELIGION, CHURCH OR STATE SHOULD ALLOW GAY MARRIAGES!


R. Adar   May 1st, 2009 10:54 pm ET

How tiring is that pathetic Orwellian attempt to change people's minds with newspeak; calling someone "gay" does not make them less mentally ill or mitigate their disgusting proclivities. Homosexuality is a deviance from the norm and when we hear the word "gay," people automatically think "Queer." It is no different than realizing a $99.99 price is effectively a hundred. No one is fooled by those trying to whitewash their depravity. And the recent hysterical attack by a pageant judge upon Miss. California was highly counterproductive, only serving to highlight the profound extent of his paranoia, hatred and inability to tolerate any opinion but his own. Those who chose to install that individual as a judge bear the greatest blame. Surely the sour reaction of viewers to his vitriolic rant will result in society's decreased interest in all pageants. Perhaps this is an answer: Hold two pageants, one for homosexuals (including the judges) and one for heterosexuals (including the judges). That should satisfy both factions (until viewership numbers are compared).


Kitty   May 1st, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Sorry for the typo...


gordon   May 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

ray I gave the reason above however eric took my answer as stating that homosexuality is at its root not a choice this was an incorrect assumption on his part it is very much a choice though spiritually it runs a bit deeper.


Art   May 1st, 2009 10:56 pm ET

@Brian

Degree not yet, almost. We talk about it in class a few days ago in psychology.


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:57 pm ET

You are completely crazy (except for me and Angie of course). No wonder there are people in the world that want to exterminate us.


ray   May 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

You are "all" I meant to type. Sorry for the typo.


jesus   May 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

i tend not to judge,uh, think it's the christian thing to do,if i did i'd be tempted to smite that loony broad


Julius   May 1st, 2009 10:58 pm ET

PLEASE READ!! GAY MARRIAGE ISSUE and Solution

Opposing gay "marriage" is not about denying anyone a right. It is about protecting religous freedom and traditions. Marriage is a religious ceremony and people of religious faith should have the right to define their own religious traditions!! What's next, the government telling us how we should recite our prayers or on what days we should worship? It is perfectly okay to allow two consenting adults to enter into a domestic agreement, contract, or partnership. They should not be denied any rights, tax breaks ect. The point of contention is when you have people who are outside of the religious mainstream trying to impose their wishes (with government assistance) onto religious institutions. All mainstream American religious faiths define marriage as between one man and one women. If you choose to affliate yourself with one these religious instituions or its practices then embrace them fully. It is your right to do so or to not do so. If you disagree with the doctrine of a faith or choose to have no faith at all that's fine. It is wrong to try and use legislation to force religion or religious institutions to conform to your own personal ideology (especially as an outsider to that religion). If you want to live your life in a romantic relationship with a person of the same sex it is your right as an American to do so. But, If you research the history of marriage you will realize that it's undisputable origins were birth from religious traditions and have existed as such for years and years and years. Let people of same sex orientation have their unions (with equal rights and protections under the law), but let people of faith have their marriages. It's actually a pretty simple concept. Even the two leading Democrats in the nation understand this and hold this view, namely President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 10:59 pm ET

Well, as a gay man, I don't remember a time being straight.


Marilyn   May 1st, 2009 11:02 pm ET

Karen from CA and Globarrvas,


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 11:03 pm ET

Brian – Minnesota.......LOVE IS NOT SITTING BY WATCHING SOMEONE BURN UP IN THEIR HOUSE THAT IS ON FIRE.....LOVE IS RUNNING IN AND RESCUEING THEM......I cannot sit by watching someone skip on their way to Hell.....because that is what will happen to those who don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ.....I do love you enough to tell you......If you reject the truth then your blood will not be on my hands......I did what I know God wants me to do.......to tell you and then it is up to you.....FREE WILL.....


jon   May 1st, 2009 11:04 pm ET

dig deep brian,there was a time you were straight,before you hit your head,remember?


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Oh, Carla. Thank you. You're right. You, too, Jon.

Silly me, I must have forgot.


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 11:06 pm ET

Does CNN SERIOUSLY think that Shanna Moakler is a good judge of anything...REALLY? Wow....Next they will have Jenna Jamison on there giving parenting advice. JEEZ!


Art   May 1st, 2009 11:07 pm ET

Well, Brian, as long as you now you wasn't born gay. Its by choice.


T Elle   May 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Brian – Minnesota May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

@Art

Homosexuality and murder are not the same thing. Committing a murder is a choice. I was born gay, not a choice

Whateverrrr


David Brenchley   May 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Cole your obviously one of them !!


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:08 pm ET

Christ turned over the tables at the tabernacle was harsh to the pharisees and instructed his disciples to wipe off the dust against those who didn't accept the gospel and paul continued this in acts. Not to judge is only part of the story it says just below judge not or you will be judged in matthew that you can tell a tree by its fruit that no good tree can produce corrupt fruit and no corrupt tree can produce good fruit. Paul instructed the christians to judge matters saying do you not know that ye shall even judge the angels which are in heaven. The statement just don't judge is good but it is only part of the story, we are instructed as christians to be very wary and make careful judgements about the people around us though not to be gossipers or busybodies and to remove the plank from our own eye first.


ray   May 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Actually now that I think of it, after reading all of these posts and much to my surprise my actually responding to them, I can't help but wonder how much better off we all would be if being gay was the norm at the very beginning of life.


Bob Malsbury   May 1st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

After WWII, didn't we execute a Japanese soldier for torture? Wasn't his torture technique "waterboarding"?


Brian - Minnesota   May 1st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

@ Art, jon, and Carla

I'm going to end this discussion because the topic is not about me. I really appreciate you opinions, but I disagree.

This was fun.
Have a good night.


T Elle   May 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

Brian – Minnesota May 1st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

@Art

Homosexuality and murder are not the same thing. Committing a murder is a choice. I was born gay, not a choice

Whateverrrr

I was, BORN IN THE USA!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 11:12 pm ET

@Ukiah Morrison Of course, homo-unions will open the floodgates for other unions. Including polygamy, polyandry, incest (mostly cousins), & near-pedophilia. How hard will it be to debate the language of the law once it’s changed to "any person(s)" can be married? Adding 2 people only will be the new civil rights discriminatory movement for Poly’s. The proponents for homo-unions simply aren’t concerned about knocking down the door for other deviant unions to force legal acceptance. It is ludicrous to believe they don’t want to teach your kids homosexuality is natural and a good behavior practice {Google California Teacher’s Union}. Logically speaking they can’t reproduce, so they recruit. Who’s easier to confuse and indoctrinate then children? Take the bible out of the school & give them sodomy, I just love America. Proverbs 22:6 – “Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it."


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:13 pm ET

Just because you don't remember a time doesn't mean that there wasn't one, there was when you were very young though factors were in place around you that influenced you such as television and people, then as soon as you were old enough to choose you made a choice.


Francis Mensah   May 1st, 2009 11:14 pm ET

I wonder why someboby should become enraged or rather agitated because someone believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. I think the founding values of this world are slowly but surely vanishing and are being replaced by twisted,immoral and lawless ideas. No wonder the Bible prophecy at Rom. 1:18-32. is being fulfilled towards them. (Ask yourself, Is It Reasonable For a man to point to another man as His Wife)? If you do that is a shame. Thank you.
F.M.


ray   May 1st, 2009 11:15 pm ET

Well this was fun. Thank God we don't live forever is all that comes to mind. I couldn't imagine going through infinite with so many lunatics. Sigh.


Art   May 1st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

Good night to you too Brian, and everyone I agree and disagreed with.


jon   May 1st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

goodnight brian,love ya man,trust in Jesus,He can do anything!!.. later,jr


Carmina Villarica   May 1st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

God created man and woman! What about homosexuals, transvestites, tomboys, murderers? Maybe they should check inside a mental institute for a brain check.


Carla Perez   May 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Good Night all.....


Michelle Tate   May 1st, 2009 11:18 pm ET

Marriage is between a man and woman. When he created the world he made man then a woman to be his mate. The world is fruitful because of man and women being mates. If man and man or vic versa woman and woman were created to be together.The world would not be fruitful. What one does in their bedroom is their business but it is not a marriage. Man cannot go against Gods word if he does the whole world is going to pay for it. People need to read their bibles then they will see the reality of marriage. May God bless you. Dont be mad at man for Gods word thats reality we must repect.


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

God does not create you as a sinner. You CHOOSE to be a homosexual in sin.


noahbaby   May 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Guess my comment was a bit strong for this board, please let it be posted and just take out the part about Elisabeth H. Thanks!!


ray   May 1st, 2009 11:20 pm ET

Oh and one more thing before I leave. If ever there was case for legalizing water boarder, the posts in this blog (mine included) bear witness in favor for it. May we all be "water boarded" in hopes that it jogs loose our collective common sense neurons.


noahbaby   May 1st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Jennifer, I highly doubt anyone would chose to be gay as they have to deal with the likes of people like you that judge them just because they were born that way. And, FYI – I am not gay but have no problem supporting their rights. They should have as many rights as straight people have and you have no right to judge them.


ray   May 1st, 2009 11:23 pm ET

Damn I can't type worth a crap anymore. I meant to type "boarding not boarder" 🙂 arghh


Joseph Larue   May 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

If a state allows gay marriages then that state is definitely going to the DOGS.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:25 pm ET

I must give a suprise admiration to cnn and say that I am pleasantly suprised that cnn did not edit out any of my comments on such a controversial topic, thanks cnn for allowing my comments


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 11:26 pm ET

I am not judging anyone. I believe in the Bible and what it says and it says that homosexuality is a sin. Why would God create someone a sinner? He doesn't. He gives us all free will to choose what kind of life we lead.


noahbaby   May 1st, 2009 11:26 pm ET

Will try this again..I cannot stand Ann Coulter and think if she feels waterboarding is not torture, then let her have at it. She is a vile human being and as much as I love you, Larry and Joy, I wish you would not have her on your show.

Miss California is another one that is clueless. Period. Pretty is as pretty does so to me, she is not pretty at all.

William Baldwin has no right to go on television and spew his crapola. Both he and his brother have horrible tempers and I don't really care what he has to say.

Joy, I love you bunches and you are the only reason I watch The View. Wish your little Bitsy would go elsewhere!!!


fran   May 1st, 2009 11:26 pm ET

No where else to comment on the fact that Times 100 most influencial peeps in the world should be the USA 100 most influential peeps cos the rest of the world could give a hoot about half this Herd of Bandits, just a reality check for y'all....fran in Cape Breton


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:27 pm ET

its okay ray you were understood


noahbaby   May 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

Jennifer, pre-marital sex is a sin, too. Guess we will all burn in hell!!


Lisa "Mo" from Lewiston Idaho   May 1st, 2009 11:28 pm ET

God is so great that he gave men and women the choice to cheat on their spouses along with molestation on children. Yeah I am so sick and tired of dealing with bible thumpers. If any of you lived a total sin free life then you can tell others what to do.. BUT GUESS WHAT NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE LIVES SIN FREE NOT EVEN THOSE WHO PREACH WHAT A BOOK SAYS.!!


noahbaby   May 1st, 2009 11:30 pm ET

Lisa "Mo", you are my new Hero!!!!!!!!!!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

@Carl with that lame arguement, I can counter with Gay marriage & NAMBLA go hand & hand, especially since they were members of the IGLA for a decade.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

noah baby do you know what God says about pre marital sex?


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 11:32 pm ET

Noahbaby – Well, if you CHOOSE to have premarital sex, so be it!


Connie   May 1st, 2009 11:34 pm ET

Apparently most of the people do not really understand the bible and it's origin. It is God inspired. It is written by many different authors under the divine inspiration of God. The Bible maintains a unity of thought and of morals. Only those who reject God and the Bible, cannot see the truth that is apparent. Marriage is for a man and a woman. The liberty that our country is taking will ruin us.


witchy woman   May 1st, 2009 11:34 pm ET

@ T Elle May 1st 10:24 pm

BTW- Human beings ARE members of the animal kingdom .


ckelly   May 1st, 2009 11:37 pm ET

@claudiajoycalifornia

I totally agree with you...we are living in a paradigm that has said-freedom means anything goes and where has that got the planet... octomom, cloning on the horizon just as stem cell research has been approved...no american law against it inspite of other adult cell research being proven to do the same kinds of health related good work and being suppressed. Truthfully, any grievance can be argued from a human rights perspective.its what the law dictates as acceptable to the community and the money behind the minority represented lobby groups that change things. True Moral and ethical thinking has little to do with it..

..This is not the same issues as a person's "race" in marriage versus changing the actually accepted definition of marriage...people are more free today to believe what they want. Opposing "anything" can be twisted into bigotry.. its sad, very sad.

We have to contine to discuss the full spectrum of the consequences of gay amrriage and accept that a fair community standard should be the norm-not what wealthy lobbiests want.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:37 pm ET

jennifer I know that these people frustrate you with their blaten views, my wife is the same way, though I hardly doubt you truly want anyone to burn in hell, sadly it will be so at their own choosing, many of them have set in pews and heard false prophets and people's views on the Bible are all over the place.


Janet Wortham-Morgan   May 1st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

People have the right to believe that marriage is sacred. People have the right to their religious views, values and beliefs.
HOWEVER, laws should not be influenced by religious views, values or beliefs. If one does not believe gay marriage is "right" or sacred then one probably ought not to marry a person of the same gender. Seeking to impose these views and dictate the choices of other individuals is stepping on their civil rights. The issue of same sex marriage laws are a civil matter and religion should have no place in this whatsoever. Seperation of Church and State was one of the founding principles of this society because it was a good idea....we need to remember that.


Oreste   May 1st, 2009 11:42 pm ET

First of all, this country has weekend because there are no more rules. People just do whatever they want. Morals are gone, old traditional values are thrown out and ignored. Religion is bashed. If two men and two women can't produce babies then it is not normal. This is the problem with this country today, people always push the boundaries and see how far they can get away with. What's next, people marrying their pets! The Constitution is there to respect and honor but not to abuse it's meaning and to push it's boundaries. What's next? People marrying their pets! I am not a judge of people but being gay is a choice. Being fat is a choice. Being alcoholic is a choice and so on. Gay's shouldn't even get married since most of them don't believe in God and if they do believe in God and respect God then they should respect the laws of the Bible. The word marriage is a union between a man and a woman and it has been that way for thousands of years. Why change it's meaning? For those people who bashed Religion and the Bible, I just want to say that its all about faith. That's the problem today, people don't respect religion and don't have faith in God. If they did, they would have self control, morals and this country would be better of and in tack. If our founding fathers knew people today would twist and abuse the meaning of the Constitution, they would probably re-write it.


Jennifer   May 1st, 2009 11:43 pm ET

Gordon, these people really don't frustrate me...too much. 🙂 The one thing that does bother me is when we have a "reverend" like we did on CNN tonight supporting gay rights. How can anyone believe in the Bible and believe homosexuality is okay?!? I can understand those that don't believe in the Bible believing that way but a "reverend"? Wow...what is this world coming to...


John, San Antonio, TX   May 1st, 2009 11:44 pm ET

Didn't watch tonight. Must have been one heck of a show. Why is that Larry always seems to make himself absent when he has people like Ann Coulter on? Without having seen the show, I am not qualified to enter the fray but I do think a little less comment on why Ann Coulter is allowed to say the things she says is in order. In this country the fruit cakes on both sides are allowed to speak their piece and we all have the right to change the channel or read a good book (not one of Ann's unless you really enjoy the point of view).


AG   May 1st, 2009 11:49 pm ET

How can you explain your kids about two men or two people of the same sex being married? For sick minded people is very easy and simple.. GAY marriage is wrong and immoral ….Politician should not even think about making the legal….what’s going to be next? You would be able to married an animal just because somebody with a sick mind decided that they like animals …


ClaudiaJoy California   May 1st, 2009 11:50 pm ET

@claudiajoy "the imposter" This is why I dare to judge.

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. (KJV)
This is why I dare to pass judgement:
Deu 25:1 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that [the judges] may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.
1Cr 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
John 7:24 “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
Lev 10:10 You must distinguish between the holy and the common, between the unclean and the clean,
1 Cor 6:1 If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints?
1 Cor 6:2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
(Prov. 13:16 Every prudent man acts with knowledge, but a fool displays folly.
Prov. 23:12 Apply … you ears to words of knowledge.
Prov. 15:7 The lips of the wise spread knowledge, but the hearts of fools are not so.
Prov. 10:13 On the lips of the discerning, wisdom is found
Prov. 10:21The lips of the righteous feed many
Prov. 15:2 The tongue of the wise makes knowledge acceptable, But the mouth of fools spouts folly.


gordon   May 1st, 2009 11:53 pm ET

jennifer the spirit of the antichrist is present in this world and has been since Christ was on the earth, the Bible makes it clear that fornicators or in the greek those that work pornea are to be removed from membership of the church and to shun fornication, which according to the first century is every form of sexual immorality including beastiality, sexual relations with a relative, homosexuality, adultery, and civil divorce and remarriage (except for the situations described in 1st corinthians chapter 7 because of the multiple ways one may come into Christ), though if such a person repented they were welcomed back into the fold like the man in 1st corinthians chapter 5, sadly there have been many false prophets preaching other gospels and there will continue to be


Lisa "Mo" from Lewiston Idaho   May 1st, 2009 11:57 pm ET

Oreste "If two men and two women can’t produce babies then it is not normal."

So do you think that if a man and woman TOGETHER CAN NOT CREATE A BABY THAT IS NOT NORMAL?? Well that is what you are making it sound like.

No matter if you are two men or two women or a man an woman. You should have the right to marry. Everyone is suppose to be equal, I know that the bible says do not judge others as god will do the judging (Sorry I have not looked or touched a bible in 20 years) Nor do I wish to touch one.

I have been thrown out of a church cause at one time I dated a black man. Which I have a child now from that relationship. But my life partner of 5 years accepts her and treats her as she does her own daughter. Between me and my life partner we have 3 girls ages 28, 13, 6 yrs of age. Each one knows about me and my partner and are thrilled we are together. Our children see us happy for the first time in our lives. Both of us have been married to men, both of us were badly abused by our HUSBANDS!! I guess that is why we treat each other with such respect. We know what is it is like to be in a STRAIGHT relationship and it be hell!!! If I go to hell and burn in hell so be it. I would rather burn in Hell than live my current life in hell with a man!!


AG   May 1st, 2009 11:58 pm ET

How can you explain your kids about two men or two people of the same sex being married? For sick minded people is very easy and simple.. GAY marriage is wrong and immoral


Dan   May 2nd, 2009 12:03 am ET

Gosh, but didn't Perez Hilton ASK Ms Prejean what her view was of same sex marriage? She answered his question, but he was upset because she didn't cower to his gayness. He either is so inept to think she wouldn't answer honestly or he planted the question to futher his lame hate blog diva image and put his pudgy face back in the media limelight that was all but dim towards him. He is a narcistic, hateful, pseudo celebrity who had to steal another psuedo celebrity's last name to justify his pathetic life. Go on YouTube now Mario Lavandeira and spew your vile to a couple dozen losers like you.


noahbaby   May 2nd, 2009 12:04 am ET

gordon May 1st, 2009 11:31 pm ET

noah baby do you know what God says about pre marital sex?

Jennifer May 1st, 2009 11:32 pm ET

Noahbaby – Well, if you CHOOSE to have premarital sex, so be it!
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Gordon, yes...the bible says it is a sin, just like it says homosexuality is a sin, just like it says it is a sin to eat shrimp or pork.

Jennifer, at 58 years of age, my premarital days are far behind me!!! Had to laugh at that one!!!

You know, NOT all people are Christians and believe in The Bible. I repsect anyone's views but I do not think anyone has the right to judge or PREACH what one believes when it comes to religion. What if I am a Buddhist or a Muslin??? Does that automatically make me a horrible person who will burn in the hell fires?????


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 12:09 am ET

Lisa I am sorry that you had such a bad taste of marrige but perhaps you should take a much larger look at the Bible, do not judge is perhaps one of the most misused verses used by people and "pastors" alike. The fruits of righteous judgement will be good where as judgement biased by sinful hate will of the heart will not produce anything good. We are very much instructed to judge just very carefully and it isn't a tool for the young christians. And God doesn't expect a woman to live in hell with an abusive man, though he expects people to abstain until the death of their spouse. Marriage is much more than just a joining of two people though it contains a complete inheritance structure and is designed to meet all of our needs. Though it is not allowable to homosexuals, it is God's wish that you would repent and be welcomed into the church though to do so you must correct your behavoir best wishes though!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

@Brian That’s how you were born; you cannot change it.
Being gay is how I was born; I cannot change it.

Same thing – neither can be changed

That's an UNTRUTH. However, difficult it might be for you, it's an unfortuante CHOICE. My simple response to that is PROVE IT! That's a question & debate I will never get.

Although, you were born in sin, but clearly not born gay, as that is an acquired behavior relative to your upbringing & environmental surrounding, you can be BORN AGAIN.


noahbaby   May 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

Lisa "Mo", You go girl!!!! Now, I do not think all men are pigs or whatever but if you feel happiness and peace with another woman and you are happy, your partner is happy and your kids are happy, who are we to judge you or put you down????????

And, I am talking as a straight woman here who wishes you and every gay person peace, love and much happiness!!!


Cris   May 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

I think it is time that we send Ann Coulter, Bill O'Riely, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh all to Texas, let the stae secede from the Union so that we no longer have to listen to their viral, hateful, disgusting comments.


Ellen Meiser   May 2nd, 2009 12:13 am ET

Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Vermont, New York, New Mexico. Can you list the names of the lawmakers who approved the same sex marriage? Are these people people of GOD? Gays can be Gays but never allow it to reach the holy matrimony. How about sending these lawmakers in muslim country?


noahbaby   May 2nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

Gordon, with all due respect, you don't have a clue. You are telling a victim of DV she should abstain until her husband is dead????? Why should she suffer due to her husband's abuse????

This is exactly what I cannot stand about The Bible or organized religion. It is all up to interpretation and that is obviously YOUR take on it and good for you, but really...until you have walked a mile in anothers shoes, who are you to judge anyone??? Isn't that also in the Bible or is that just a Bob Dylan song???


arlene   May 2nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

I did not watch tonite, because I refuse to listen to ann coulter.


noahbaby   May 2nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

Cris May 2nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

I think it is time that we send Ann Coulter, Bill O’Riely, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh all to Texas, let the stae secede from the Union so that we no longer have to listen to their viral, hateful, disgusting comments.
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Oh please, don't send them to Texas cause then I will have to move out of the State – how about Alaska with Sarah Palin? And add Elisabeth Hasselbeck to the group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And don't forget Glenn Beck!!


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 12:19 am ET

actually premarital sex is hardly referenced at all though in our language evolution today we automatically think it is the definition of fornication this isn't so according to the old testament where the marriage covenant is defined if a woman is betrothed or engaged by her father and a man came upon her in the field and forced her then she was fine because crying out wouldnt help and he was put to death for taking another mans wife but if she was in the city at the time and didn't cry out they both were put to death. he for taking another mans wife and her for agreeing with it by not crying out. Now if she was not betrothed and a man forced her then he was responsible for putting down a sizable dowry(money that she would live on should he die) and he may never divorce her , now if she was seduced and was willing then the father chooses whether he or the guy puts up the dowry and she becomes his wife no other choices defined. sorry for punctuation and typos trying to hurry


Tim   May 2nd, 2009 12:19 am ET

Ann Coulter is out of touch with reality.. and her smirky face when a good point is made that she doesn't agree with is just difficult to look at. WOW!


Joe Tanga   May 2nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

Your last book was great! Any plans for another?
Marry me ANN!


zoe   May 2nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

It is not about religion!, and views (that derive from all kinds of religion),
Religions are man made. A religion can be anything.
Our laws are based on God's. That is what is being defended!
It's about Him and His Word.


Adam Coleman   May 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Why can't these woman have an intelligent debate about the issues instesd of just taking jabs at one another?


D J   May 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Ann Coulter, or Gov Sarah Palin = Pres George W Bush in a skirt - No More, No Less!!!!!


Christa Horton   May 2nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Ann, thank you for speaking common sense.


Chip   May 2nd, 2009 12:23 am ET

Ann Coulter rocks!!


TJ   May 2nd, 2009 12:24 am ET

Ann is the best!


Brad   May 2nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

Ann...you are a real American Hero!!


marilyn goodell   May 2nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

I would like to see Ann Coulter get through one interview , without playing with her hair.


Robert   May 2nd, 2009 12:26 am ET

To Ann, You go girl!


Jenna   May 2nd, 2009 12:26 am ET

By calling Palin a "real american" I have decided to no longer be American. Anyone who can place such a high value on an incompetent ignoramus can only be described as a joke.
Our country is in DEEP trouble if ANYONE has any respect for Palin. It is about time this country realized the need for gay marriage.

And, if you take the Bible that seriously, you should become a flagellist since most parts of american culture are considered "sins". Rather than forcing your views on others, perhaps you should focus on yourself. Viva la abortion and stem cell research as well.


Susan   May 2nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Anne – Thanks for being a voice for the silent majority!


YinYang   May 2nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

Seeing people like Ann Coulter makes me thankful: without radical extremists like her, we would never know what true balance is.


kelli   May 2nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

I think the way people act about gay marriage is childish.
I go to church & everything but they are no different from anyone else.
This is who they are dont judge them


George   May 2nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

Ann is great and speaks the truth about this country. Obama thinks money grows on trees!!!! Oh yeah, it does in D.C. just keep printing more!


Adam Coleman   May 2nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

Who won the Miss USA contest?


Russ   May 2nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

Ann, Keep the books coming, Really like your views. Good work.!


Michael Maddox-France   May 2nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

Good job so far, Behar! The comedians may not be able to touch President Obama, but they've certainly got some material with you and Ann!

Regarding Ms. California, I stood by her unwaveringly when she took flak from her response to Perez's Ms. America question, but I'm not sure this "Opposite Marriage" campaign is the best route to take...


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

oh and eating shrimp or pork are sin they are part of the health statutes of the old testament and as such were commanded against for the purity of israel however that was straightened out in the new testament, that it isn't a good idea because it isn't great for us but not sin. now the she must abstain comment is not a clueless wrong interpretation greek doesn't allow that it is very specific however to go deeper after accepting Christ you get a clean slate and like I said earlier some can remarry according to 1st corinthians chapter 7 and what conditions they may come into Christ, so no thats hardly suffering though I must thank you I am typing too fast and obviously need to retype such things but just so you know that it isn't just MY INTERPRETATION try and twist the verse that says it clearest, though requires more reading to realize that new christians can remarry though only once: note verse 11

And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:

1Cr 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

1Cr 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

1Cr 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.


karylmarie   May 2nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Anne – ever think of applying the law equally to all with compassion? Instead of saying you can't treat anyone differently and therefore not allowing compassion? You've a mind that ought to be able to get there and then you could actually be a voice for something worthwhile. To whom much is given much is expected.


Teddy   May 2nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

You know, I think its fine. We all have the right to chose, and we all have our own opinions. I don't disagree with anyone.


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

@Marjorie L. Coppock
What you left out & which so many on the right tend to leave out, maybe by simple oversight or they can careless. Needless to say Black Women are dying from HIV/AIDS at alarming numbers. DLB's are a weapon of genocide against the Black community. They are asking us to embrace this behavior or mask our voices. They are infitrating our churches (Bishop Yvonne, Bobby Jones, & Rev. James Cleveland), Preachers are afraid to speak out against abomination while our sisters are dying. I wonder if we should accept crack heads & prostitutes next, or better yet place the behavior on our children's school curriculum. Have unprotected Pre-marital sex and you will DIE. Have Homosexual sex and you will Die. Period . Point ! Blank ___


Jeff   May 2nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

It may surprise us all to learn that the Divine Creator is the Father of our spirits and that we do have a heavenly mother. We do have a right to choose called "agency" unless we run into our neighbors legal fence line. . . . . Or if we come to know God's boundaries for his spiritual children

CNN believes in no fences other than their own opinion. There are no opposite rights in society today. WOW to CNN, The time may be here in that our castles should their flags upside down. We are under attack and duress. We are under reported, in facts and truth. Flags are supposed to fly and not SPIN.


nardofree VIRGINIA   May 2nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

the opposite of straight is not gay, it's crooked or bent! there's no such race of people called gay! how are you gonna twist the minds of the kids with this foolishness of having 2 moms or 2 dads? the only way to enter into this life , is thru and by a man and woman , not this perversion or tolerant way of living! adopting children is not the answer ! you can't reshape life to what you want it to be! please, please stop quoting from the bible that you don't believe to be true!


Joe Tanga   May 2nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

Mr. B is EXACTLY on the ball, our definition of getting married by the bible is being attacked. Homosexuals take such offense to the "civil union" term. They could have civil unions AND leave the creation of our bible alone!


Wesley   May 2nd, 2009 12:37 am ET

Maggie, marriage is a CONTRACT not RELIGION! Religion Ruins Lives!


karylmarie   May 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

Adam they can't because Ann doesn't do that.


D J   May 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

Bigotry takes many forms and, yes, Those opposed to Gay Marriage ARE Bigots!!!!!
D J


Chip   May 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

Carrie IS being unjustly persecuted for standing up for her beliefs. This jerkette from the Miss California Pageant is talking out of both sides of her face!


Mustafa   May 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

I think marriage is a sacred institution and miss California has the right to her own opinion


isaac   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Will people stop saying that God wrote the Bible, God did not write the bible, people wrote the Bible. Maybe it is the word of God but he/she didn't write it.


ann   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

every one has a right to be happy what is up with you?


Scott   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Hi Joy,
I don't understand why everyone is opposed to letting to consenting adults comit to each other. Especially when people on your show tonight seemed to be opposing gay marriage simply because it requires them to make some effort to change their defiintion of who marriage is between. Isn't it true that marriage used to be arranged by parents, not even the couple themselves. Isn't that the actual origin of marriage.


Warren   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Same sex marriage is unnatural!!!


Benjamin   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

The bible says in leviticus that homosexuality is "an abomination". How can you preach one part of the bible, but completely ignore other parts? Its one whole truth.


David   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

i don't see how a gay person's marriage affects my future marriage, and why are all the religious groups trying to impose their religious beliefs on people who may not be religious, seperation of church and state anyone?


ywinchell   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Miss California is being attacked because of her expressed beliefs about wanting to marginalize, judge, and disregard the rights of others. To say that she is a good human being despite the fact that she condones hatred is ludicrous.


AMA   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

Hello,
Just as this young woman said i do think that marriage should be shared with a woman and a man.But if Homosexuals wants to get married that is there personal choice.I mean who are u to judge them right its to God to judge them at the end time.But theres nothing wrong with someone sticking to what they believe in.
God bless BYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


DERRICK RHAME   May 2nd, 2009 12:39 am ET

I HAVE TWO WORD HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE


Bill   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

God did not write the Bible, man did, and at that time when the Bible was written, Christianity as newly made and people didn't agree that Homosexuality wasn't write because of the Roman Empires "free sex spirit." To say that God wrote anything is a lie. Research your information!


Hannah   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I think is a sacred union between two people who love each other, whether man & woman, or not. love who you want to love, and we all love the same way.


Elisabeth   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Why does it matter if someone is gay or not gay?! It has nothing to do with you. Not going to hurt you if people that are gay get married?! I believe some actually have made better parents! Also, isn't it in the bible not to judge other people?! Only God has that role!


Renae   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

If you believe in Gay marriage you are not a Christian. Its against Gods Will.


Fatrie Johnson   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

As long as married couples are protected by laws and have certain rights by law; then the prohibition of Gay marriage is discrimination.


Adam Coleman   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I don't believe in gay marriage but I do believe in seperation of church and state.


Claudia Hallberg   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Silly controversy...
Of COURSE gay people should have the right to marry.
These anti-gay attitudes are ridiculous.


Joe   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I'm not trying to be mean, just pointing out what is already there for all of us to see.

Those against REdefining marriage all called devisive, yet those who call to re-define marriage to include a perverted definition are not considered devisive.


Joyce   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I'm really tired of Miss California discussion. Is the purpose of the question to come up with the most politically correct answer or are they actually supposed to tell the truth? Does anyone even remember who won the Miss USA contest?


Kramer   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I support Miss California 100%. She just said what she believes and it is absolutely ridiculous for people to criticize her for her beliefs.


cherin   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

gay marriage is an oxymoron, moron.


DK   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Hi, I'm a born-again Christian but I honestly do have moments where I have homosexual desires and want to act upon them. And I have. However, I do believe that having homosexual desires and acting upon them is committing sin. Just like any other sin, homosexuality is a sin. It's only with the power of God that we can overcome this sin and temptation.


Emily Goodman   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Stephen Baldwin is a very amusing advocate for the persecuted.


Bill   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

GOD'S WORD is TRUTH the only TRUTH. Therefore, homosexual activity is SIN. GOD says it , so it is TRUE.


Stephen Smith   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

If people are so concerned and against gay marriage, they don't marry a gay person. To each his/her own.


Mark Nomad   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

This is uterly rediculous. We are tormenting an individual for her true beliefs. We sit here and talk about gay rights while forgetting about human rights. We talk about responsibility, what about our responsibility to believe in our own morals. She commented truthfully. If you dont want to hear an honest answer or honest opinion, please do not ask a question of that magnitude during a competition. Leave her alone, judge yourselves


Ace Zamora   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I myself am a gay republican from Texas. I support gay marriage. I feel like a second rate citizen in my country, maggie and mr baldwin are very close minded, i also DO NOT AGREE with Perez hiltons response. and both have been blown out of proportion. if you really follow the bible then FOLLOW WORD FOR WORD... hypocrites


joanne   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I am a married women and raised in the Church. My brother is gay and is now married to the same partner for 25+ years. They are very happy. Having lived with this for many years of my life I fully accept the gay marriage. People have no idea.....let individuals be happy.

Open your minds!!!!


James Knox   May 2nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

As a representative of California; Carrie Prejean was wrong in being associated with such an organization. This is not a matter of free speech; it's a matter of her being a representative of a state where there are many gay people.


jerry   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

what are straight people so scared of


Debbie   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

If more people stood up for God and what the Bible says about Gay people and other things, then our world would not be in the shape it is in now. What is happening now is a result of how people turn from the truth and God and try to justify their actions.


Jenna Rak   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Same sex couples are fighting to get married, while over 50% of the straight married population are getting divorced. People deserve equality, and that doesn't mean except gay people. And no matter what religion you are, I'm pretty sure that GOD didn't write their bible, Mr. Baldwin.


Ross   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Republicans are for freedom, and against federal government intervention, yet want to dictate what consenting adults can do? Hypocrisy. This is bigotry plain and simple.


Chris   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

I am gay and married and was one of the thousands protesting in LA after prop 8. Had my marriage been left alone, I never would have picked up a sign or held my money away from those trying to divorce me.


Douglas   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

why is this a religious issue? it is a governmental issue.


Grandpa   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

I don't want my 5 year old grandson asked whether he wants to marry a princess or a prince when he grows up.

This insanity has to stop. The liberal cancer is malignant.

RIP Danny Gans


Deshon Jenkins   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Look this is exactly why God rules be free will and Christ teaches to turn the other cheek. The stupidity on both sides of this is absolutely ridiculous and the most UNAMERICAN approach to it. Christ last request was to love one anotyher as I have loved you so lets try that! This poor young lady is now caught in between liberal and conservative agenda because neither of these styupid parties no how to do one simple thing mind your own damn business. as for Perez Hilton he definately needs to gro w a pair in other words don' ask the question if you don't want the honest answer.


simon   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

marriage is a privilage reserved for those who are opposite sex, and belonging to a church


Teddy   May 2nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

I support gay marriage. We as humans have taught our selfs to have men and women relationships


Joel Ahumada   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

I, personally, do not support gay marriage. I believe that it is againt the Bible and Christian beliefs. However, I don not agree with the fact that gay couples are not given the same rights and a married heterosexual couple. Marriage is rooted in religious beliefs and every part of it has a religious connotation. Why cant civil unions, or some other type of union, offer the same benfits as marriage?


Melanie   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

The problem with the anti-gay agenda is that it takes people's liberties away. Is a definition (marriage) so important that we should deny a whole community of people the same happiness and freedom that heterosexuals just expect?


Helen in IL   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

If same sex relationships are normal, why is not seen so much in animal populations.?


Tiffini   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

Funny, Miss CA is one of the most uneducated women and can't articulate a sentence !


Mickey   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

People should not be judge on thier lifestyle because everyone needs someone to comfort them and hold them. Gay people are people also and have feelings.


Jeff Lawrence   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

I don't think releasing details of our past interrogation techniques is going to increase or decrease the chance of a terrorist attack. If the terrorists found out that if they were caught, that they would be forced to endure the most extreme torture imaginable, they wouldn't care...it makes no difference to them....don't people see that terrorists blow themselves up on PURPOSE for their cause?? Torture means NOTHING to them...NOTHING!!! The terrorists think that if they kill others that don't believe what they believe that they will go to heaven....so they are ready to die...ready and willing. I think the only way to defeat the terrorists is not through pre-emptive wars but through undermining their PURPOSE....and I think if we show that we are a just nation that treats all people fairly gets us closer to that...and I think Obama gets that.


vito   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

Marriage is a beautiful thing between a man & a woman and modern age is corrupting it...its a shame.


alfonso luna   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

this is silly! are we now going to argue that child birth is not bettwen a man and a women for political correctness sake.


Bridgett Carter   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

I truely have no problem with gay people living together; however, I strongly opposed gay marriage. The union of marriage should only be between a man and woman.


patrick   May 2nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

forgive them father, for they no not what they do!


Ted   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

If you're going to use the Bible in regard to marriage please read (Lev. ch.18.), of the O.T. and (Romans 1:26-32), of the N.T. It is very clear that the Bible DOES NOT condone same sex relations.


jason   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

I think Carrie was right for speaking the truth, I'm not a religious person but anyone knows a marriage is about starting a family and two people of the same sex can't have a biological child between them both only one can be a parent we are not asexual creatures


DERRICK RHAME   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

The woman that is one the show that if for gay married i would love to see what she tell christ in days of judgement.And i promise if she don't get out of what ever wacky church she attends.It obvious she has not common since becosue anyone who says it ok for a man to lay with another man that is sick that is sick and hell is where you all will go who are all for it.


Dustin   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

i have no problem with some one elses opion but in the same respect i think others should respect my opion if i fell like same sex marrige isent right its my opion and if they dont like it they dont have to get upset or angry just ignore it


Michael Silva   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

I feel that the double standard with gay marriage advocates is absolutely ridiculous. Pro gay marriage advocates claim that their civil rights are being denied yet they attempt to trump the civil right of free speech from those who disagree with them.


Cindy   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Why do people keep bringing up the bible! If we followed all that it said we would still have slavery and women would still be second class citizens! How can this bring the meaning of marriage down? Look at the shams of marriages that take place in Las Vegas everyday. Men and Women marrying for a day/month but this is ok?
What right do these people have to say the rights that come with being married should not be given to certain people because they are the same sex? I could go on and on but won't, thank you for allowing me to voice my opinions!


Darla   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Why do you bring God into this? He created MAN and WOMAN. What about creating human life?? God is a God of Love but there is judgement. Just as your earthly father loves you, you will do something that disappoints him, he still loves you but may have to give punishment. Beware of this selfish, giving into the flesh act. This is no different from adultery. It is NOT how God palnned and created the human race. Sorry, nothing will make it RIGHT!!!


Cynthia   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

I believe that it is wrong to be gay, but I believe that it is God who gives each person a choice to believe in his word or not. I believe that it is no one right to judge others only God has that right. There is so much hate for one another it is no wonder why the world is in so much a mess. We are to pray for our brother and our sister for understanding of his word not to try to force our belief on one another. God gives Us that choice.


Brenda Dunn   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Marriage should only be between a man and woman. God gave us different anatomy so that two people could become one when they mate. Have you ever seen a man impregnate another man or a woman impregnate another woman.


Seth   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

I'm gay, and I believe that everyone should have equal rights. I see nothing wrong with gay or traditional marriage. Why can the two not coexist?


Michael Wright   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

The bible is clear that homosexuality is a sin, 1Corinthians 6:9 says no unrepentant homosexual can make it into heaven; and there are many other scriptures to support it. Homosexual marriage is wrong, and puts our country in danger of judgment.


Felipe H. Garcia   May 2nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

Hi everybody. this is my first time ever doing this kind of thing so here i go. i myself am a ga 31y.o. male and to me, i think gay people can get married. not through the church but through the courts (You Know Through Man's Law) but not through the curch. that would be like ptepping on god's toe's even more than what we are getting away with now.


Kimberly   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

1. California is not a country.
2. Gay marriage is a religious issue. If a church / preacher chooses to perform a marriage for a same sex couple, it should be allowed to perform such a ceremony. That's why there is separation of church and state.
3. It could be even simpler. If you get "married" in a courthouse/public forum call it a civil commitment (man/woman, man/man, woman/woman). If you get "married" in a a church define it as a marriage (man/woman, man/man, woman/woman).
Take religion out of the equation.


Cee Cormier   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

What is everybody's problem??? Miss California is entitled to her own opinion just as each of you is entitled to yours! She doesn't have to agree with yours and neither are you expected to agree with hers. Cool it...where is America the Free gone?


Nick   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

All religion aside, even though I am a christian, why would gay marriage make sense. Not only that, why would being gay make sense. There are obviously those out there that have a different chemical make-up that make them a little more manly/femanine than a typical person would have but how does that make gay ok and right? If being gay made sense then we could reproduce with same sex. However, this isn't the case. In fact if we didn't re-produce with the opposite sex then we wouldn't be here much longer because we wouldn't be reproducing. How does being gay make sense to people? I just don't know how you rationalize that.


wesley staples   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

I heard your guest from the Anti-gay marriage group say "we're not the ku klux klan." Well, you sound like them! Ignorance must be such a lonely place to be! Love and acceptance are so much better, and you'll find a lot of friends here. Come on over!


maggie tinsley   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

If you believe the Bible is God's word then you cannot accept gay marriage. The Boble is perfectly clear about the perversion of homosexuality. So as a Christian we either live by what we bellieve to be God's standard or we allow our culture to define what is right behavior. I think I'll trust God's word over my culture– anyday


Kathy   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

I understand the need for gay couples to have legal rights in their partnerships, but if you believe in God and his written word; the bible, then a marriage can only be between a man and a women. Perhaps their joining can be called something else.


Michael Maddox-France   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

DJ (May 2nd, 2009 12:38 am ET)

"Bigotry takes many forms and, yes, Those opposed to Gay Marriage ARE Bigots!!!!!"

Okay DJ, so what about people like me who do oppose Gay Marriage, but believe that gay people deserve the right to marriage? Are we still bigots, just because we don't follow lock-step with your beliefs on the matter?


Vicki Huberman   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

I believe in gay marriage. Why shouldn't everyone be happy/miserable?


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

All those that are against gay "marriage"...are you also against "civil unions" if they include the same exact rights, privileges, and responsibilities of a straight marriage?


David Crichton   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Steven Baldwin, opposed, Werent you in the movie threesome...hello...and why is it so bad that Gays marry, dont we deserve the same rights as everyone else, Hello Miss California, didnt we teach you how to talk, walk, and also make you that fabulous gown you wore during the competition...Thanks for your support..by the way..I live in the same country you do, isnt this the land of the free..!


Pamela   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Why aren't any of the pro-marriage equality guests bringing to light the fact that civil marriage (the real definition of "Gay Marriage") is a contract all heterosexual couples are free to enter into–which same-sex couples are denied. Same-sex couples are denied the same access to a government contract that another group of people have access to–which provides hundreds of rights and responsibilities that same-sex couples are denied. That is the heart of the argument for marriage equality.

churches can still discriminate by not performing same-sex unions–however, the government should not.


jeff   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

mrs california is so right on. need more people like her to stand up to the right and wrongs of this world. god blessed you mrs california. keep up the good work


Adam   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman. And that's it. People obviously vote against it but the courts do illegal legislation and knock down what people have voted in to law. All they are supposed to do is interpret the law and the law is in many states marriage is between a man and a woman.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Stephan Baldwin talks about the bible being against gay marriage and this is the word of god, does he support killing people who commit adultry? Because Leviticus 20:10 clearly says that!


Terrence Fultz   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Personally, I find homosexuality in general, to be a mental illness. It is not normal to desire the same sex, if it was then they would be able to procreate. So in short I dont agree with same sex marriage. That being said, to each his own.


Joyce Miller   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Stop persecuting people who believe in traditional marriage – what happened to free speech in America. The gay hate groups should be exposed for who they are.


Virginia Miner   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Marriage is a personal decision - two adults joining together because of what they feel for each other - whether it is by same sex or opposite sex - why should it be decided by other parties, goverment or religions? Everyone deserves to be loved and decided with who.


Makena   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

I believe marriage was created by God and it should be between man and woman...other than that it would be a sin to have gay marriage...I think the judge was not right to curse miss carlifonia...he should be ashamed of himself


Jake   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Marriage is between a man and a woman – period. Why do Gays and their supporters want to change the definition of marriage. What is next - the right to marry our pets and minor children ?


Tim Kreitz   May 2nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Larry,
I'm watching the replay of your show from tonight, and wanted to comment about the Miss California argument from the show. You know both sides of the argument, so I don't want to comment on that. I just wanted to mention how ignorant it is that Shayna, I think is her name, that she come on the show and say that the answer didn't cost her the crown. Which happens to be the same show that judge Perez Hilton admitted that the question indeed lost her the crown.
Thanks,
Tim


michael   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I'm a macho heterosexual and I doubt if I will ever change but I do believe an adult has the right to choose his/her way of life. It sure as hell is not going to affect my life.


Marilyn York   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

That which is wrong is now being glorified as right and that which has always been right is being degraded and despised. I wonder where our society would be without the tradtional marriages bearing children and being a stablising force on the earth. The pastor is correct, God wrote the Book on that which is acceptable and that which is an abomination. He's the Judge. Deal with Him on the issues and see where you get. Homosexuality is sin. It is a choice to sin. Choices can change and many gay and lesbians people have change and lived straight lives. You never hear about them in the news. I wonder why? I do condemn homosexuality, God does.


Robert   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Steven claims that the Bible was "written by God" and uses that as a justification for his position against Gay Marriage, as do many. However, as with all religious texts it is the so called "word of God" as transcribed by the hand of man... it is imperfect as are we, and is by no means an absolute rule of law and life.

People need to keep this in perspective when passing judgment on civil matters that are fundamentally not religious. Your religion is free to not to sanctify a marriage, it does not give the right to forbid those a civil level to wed. This is supposed to be a secular nation... it seems we have lost sight of that.


Jessie   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

To Mr. Baldwin – "God" did not write the bible men did.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

simon you clown what is so sacred about people getting married in Vegas with Pastor ELVIS????


Caleb   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I think gay marriage is wrong. If marriage was intended to be between to guys god wouldn't have made a woman and visa versa. Sure people are entitled to their own opinion but i say if you want to be gay go somewhere else because its the last thing we need right now.


KC Johnson   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

If you don't believe in Gay Marriage, then don't marry a gay person. Why does the religious right want to stick their nose into peoples bedrooms and pass laws to enforce their belief system...what ever happened to small government from the Right....


Patti B   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Joy, tell that REV there are 8 scriptures in the Bible that tells about what GOD feels like about gayness. We will pray for her.
He says it is an abomination and they will be destroyed.


janice   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I think it's ridiculous when a woman has an opinion that may not be popular that people call her narrow minded. Then indeed these same people preach diversity- which does not include difference of opinion!


Janine   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Marriage in the Bible is quoted by Jesus as being between a man and a woman. It is not open to interpretation. If all of the benefits of being a married person can be given to gay couples in civil unions this should be satisfying as they will be united by law. To ask followers of the Christian faith to sanctify that which Jesus did not sanctify is asking for too much.


Sharon Z.   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I agree with the many who have said people like Ann Coulter should not get the publicity, esp. from an intelligent program that should be serious in bringing people into our living room who can expand our knowledge, not clog the airwaves with vitriol. When I heard Ann say that Joe McCarthy was a true American and defended what he did, I knew that her thinking was outside of the realm of reasonable. The American public has said a big NO to hateful rhetoric. Yes, we have freedom of speech, but let her talk on FOX. Oh, she also said that anyone who complained about the Iraqi War was committing treason ... so, maybe she doesn't really need the freedom of speech she would deny others.


tammy beaulac   May 2nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

How would you feel if the love of your life was in the hospital in the asking for you and you were aren't allowed to see them because you are not family. You have made a home, perhaps have children together built a life same as everyone else but you are not a legal couple! Gay marriage is a right .


Joe S.   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

The gay marriage debate is a barometer for our evolution from fearful, religion-dependent sheeple to enlightened, secular beings who value love and civility who can develop the mental capacity to be independent thinkers and not succumb to an invisible, all knowing God who seems to be constantly peering into their bedrooms. Love conquers all in the end. The views of a straight man here.


Brooklyn   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

It's ridiculous how we have these two faced, delusional, ignorant people, including that homophobic bubble head who lost the pageant, enforcing hate crimes and really believing that it's ok to feel that way! ANY kind of prejudice is WRONG. PERIOD!!
Homosexuality is a part of the past, present and will definitely be part of the future. GET OVER IT AND SNAP THE FLIP OUT OF IT!!!

Love is love is love is love is love is love is love is love is love......you get the idea.


Roland ugho   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Oh my God, all this years besides our believes about what marriage should be, and consistently been told everyday in my biology classes that relationship between a man and woman helps produce healthy offsprings and create new genes that will compete and survive better, i see no reason why we as people should argue about what we know is wrong. What would animals think of us if they could or maybe they do. God help us and he wasnt wrong when he said atrocities never end.


David   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

There is an argument that gay marriage should be illegal because the majority of people oppose it, but when the supreme court ruled in favor of interacial marriage, 70 percent of people opposed the Supreme Court ruling, yeah okay do whatever the people and my parents would never have gotten married


John Lamoreau   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Miss California was asked a question about HER opinion on a controversial issue. She answered honestly. And then she is attacked by the judge who asked because she didn't agree with his views.

Let's follow his argument to the full extreme. Shouldn't the Miss America contest be open to transvestites, transsexuals and any cross dresser who wants to apply? Why do they discriminate against these poor folks?

He should never be allowed to judge this contest again.


sportygal85   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

The Bible does talk about homosexuality, however it only suggests that two men don't lie together, but nothing about women. If people really read the Bible, which they don't.
Stephen Baldwin forgets that the word of God was WRITTEN by people, like Matthew, Mark, Luke....etc. He also and many Christians forget, that the Bible has been interpreted and copied so many times, translations of words have been lost. The Bible was originally written in Hebrew and Greek, and there are words in that language that don't transfer over in English well. We are reading what we BELIEVE is correct, but who knows? Until Moses, no part of the Bible was handwritten, so how do we know that the Bible is missing information?
It's not that we shouldn't believe what the Bible says, but we can't take it word for word, especially if you are trying to use it to defend gay marriage or any other issue, like polygamy, which actually was allowed in the Old Testament, if any one took the time to study it.
Sadly, I identify or grew up in the Evangelist Church, however, over my years of learning and openmindedness and understanding, I've strayed as far as some certain beliefs of the church, not others. However, I'm still Christian, and while I personally may not be gay, I don't condone gay acts, because the Bible says to love one another, and I care about people, so people should be able to love one another in any matter, gay or straight.


Kirsten Dudley   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Re: Gay Marriage.

Why must we be either for or against gay marriage?
Why not just be indifferent. If two people want "marriage" let them. What business is it of others?


Kara   May 2nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

LARRY I WANT TO LET U KNOW HOW SORRY I AM FOR U LOSS AND I WISH HIS FAMILY THE BEST WHILE THEY GRIEVE AND I HOPE THE MEDIA CAN FIND IT IN THERE HEARTS TO LEAVE THE FAMILY ALONE AND NOT MAKE UP STORIES THAT ARE UNTRUE I WILL KEEP ALL OF U IN MY PRAYERS


Carita Holt   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I truly beliee that those who oppose gay marriage are no better than those who believe in slavery. Only God has the authority to decide that anyone is wrong for what they do here on earth. LOVE has its own eyes and determines who receives it. Those who try to oppress it just dont have it to give or an open heart to receive.


David S   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I am always shocked at the prospect of attempting to legislate morality. If a person beleives marriage should occur naturally between a man and a woman, that person should not attempt to thrust his or herr views on others. Similarly, if a person believes in gay marriage, that person should not force his or her beliefs upon others. However, as a christian, I am reminded of loving my brothers and sisters. I am also reminded of doing unto others as I would like for them to do unto me. That entails giving respect to others. I must also remind myself only God has the power to judge others, not me, nor the state or federal government. If a person wants to live his or her life in a manner which is against my beliefs, I should let them. For only God will judge. Yet, I believe God values love and gay people demonstrate plenty of love. We should all live our lives as we sit fit and allow others to do the same. Preventing people who love each other to marry, in my opinion, is wrong. Imagine the opposite situation, if heterosexual people were not allowed to marry and being gay was the norm.


tim bitts   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I don't believe in OPTIONAL gay marriage.

Marriage has a 50% failure rate. After a costly wedding, there's the social embarrassment of having made a lifetime committment, and everyone knows you screwed up. Then, you have to pay the lawyers 10s of thousands of dollars, to get out of it. Then there are the fights with your ex, the emotional heartache, as you cry yourself to sleep every night for two years, trying to get on with your life.

Till now, gays have just sensibly lived together, and just split up without the hassle if it didn't work out. A lot less hassle, a lot less pain, and a lot less wasted money that way.

And now gays want OPTIONAL marriage?

No way.

It should be MANDITORY!


Jerry Cox   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Personally, I think Perez Hilton demonstrated his own personal agenda when he asked Carrie Prejean that ridiculous question, and his tirade on the internet was tasteless, classless, and uncalled for.

Socio-political world views have no place in a beauty contest.


Sandi Barron   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I am totally against gay "marriage". Marriage was created by God to be a covenant between a man and a woman for the purpose of helping each other and creating a family. As far as I know it still takes a sperm from a man and an egg from a woman to make a child. The bible does speak many different times about homosexuality being a sin. God loves the sinner but hates the sin as he does any other sin. God cannot be in the presence of sin therefore if someone is living in a sexual relationship with another of the same sex they are in fact sinning. I do feel if they want rights to things married people have rights to like hospital visit, wills, power of atty, insurance, all this is available legally. Why should we give special rights to someone just because they are having sex or in a relationship with a person of the same sex. I don't go around asking people if they are gay and people don't ask me. Why do we care and why do we need to know? This has gotten totally out of hand and I for one am sick and tired of it being shoved down my throat and asked to swallow it.


maggie   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

I think it's ridiculus that with all the problems in our world, so many people are worried about who loves each other, however the baldwin brother was adorable when he said "God wrote the bible!". Maybe he should just be cute and leave the talking to the intelligent people.


Jules Ozan   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

It's ironic how people who are discriminating against a minority claim to be the persecuted. It's like being a bigot who doesn't want to allow a minority a certain right, like going to school and then when people get upset about not being allowed this right – they claim they are the persecuted. Give me a break!


Jason Armfield   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Are you honestly saying that it is permissible in the US to legislate religious edicts? Also, why do you pick out the one imperative in Leviticus (18:22) that forbids, some think, homosexual relations but fail to follow the other commandments in the book including: Sell your daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7); Avoiding women while they have their period (Lev. 15:19-24); Putting people to death who work on the sabbath (Exodus 35:2); Men are forbidden to cut their hair (Lev. 19:27); Put people to death who sleep with their in-laws! (Lev. 20:14).

As you can see this nonsense could continue on indefinitely – you can either endorse ALL of the rules or NONE of them. Shed your clothes of mixed fiber! (Lev. 24:10-16)


Maryanne   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Miss California answered the question honestly and now she's being ridiculed. What's wrong with this world?


Joselyn Penny   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

If marrage is interpreted as two becoming one, as in the reproductive process, then marriage between two of the same sexes becomes impossible by definition.


ladybost   May 2nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

it's pretty sad...all the baldwins are off their rocker. nothing in this world is black and white, not even people


Jenni   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

I find it so telling hat when asked the Christian man could not seem to phrase how exactly he was being persecuted. He was so quick to quote the bible, but what about the parts of the bible that say a man can marry his rape victim, and that a man can have a wife and a concubine. Where is the sanctity of marriage there? Theism is a mythology, homosexuals are real people. My judgment is always in favor of the real. In favor of actual people. Those who do not want same sex marriage are not homosexual couples so shut up about it. There is nothing any person could do to harm the sanctity of marriage other than me. Allowing others a right I have hurts no one. This whole argument is despicable. These are real people with real families and shame on those of you who don't want to share a right you yourselves already enjoy. Your churches do not have any monopoly on marriage. Those priests words mean nothing until the state license is filed. Hush and tend to your own business and let those nice couples have their marriages in peace.


Susan   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

I am still not convinced marriage should be limited just to man and woman.


n12ka16   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

what's wrong with mother-mother or das-dad is they can't procreate in these unions.


Maria   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Hello Joy ..

a quick comment re Mr. Baldwin's statement that "God wrote the Bible" ... He did not. The Bible is a compilation of sacred scripture written by prophets and the disciples of Jesus. It is however, written that the 10 Commandments were handed directly by God to Moses. I respect what Mr. Baldwin believes and also respect the right of Gay couples to be united in marriage. Maybe that is what we should focus on? respect?
All the best ...


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Debbie: I think if people like you are the problem makers. When the self righteous people get involved problems follow. Always!


ken   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

gay marriage is just one the troubles america is in.


Marie   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

n the Garden of Eden was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. God said to Adam "man should not be alone and he formed Eve giving Adam companhy.I am totally against gay marriages. God gave Adam a woman formed from his rib


Adam   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

So people who are Christians are bigots, just say it. That's all it is. I believe in Christ so that makes me a bigot I guess. That's ok.


D Kelly   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

We completely agree with Miss California. Marriage is between a Man and Woman only. Gay marriage and lifestyle is absolutely not right and no amount of protest, legislation or what have you will ever make it right. It is unnatural and even the animal kingdom knows without anyone teaching them or legislating them that union is with a male and female. Only natural families can come about by a male and female and everything outside of that is immoral, unnatural and extremely unhealthy to any children who are raised in such an environment. It creates confusion in children and they will grow up not knowing what is normal, healthy, moral and right. We applaud MIss California for her stand and it is about time that someone spoke from the moral majority of this nation.


Alex   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

I think it's absolutely ridiculous that this is still even being argued. Individuals should have the right to their own lives, especially when the action in question doesn't cause harm to anyone. The fact that two men or two women decide to marry does not affect the lives of you religious nuts in any way. How would you like if you were restricted from watching tv because the bible prohibits the worship of false gods (or anything that gets in the way of god). TV is now a false God...you can't watch it anymore! Doesn't make much sense, does it?
I'm tired of people looking at law through a bible lens. What ever happened to separation of church and state???


Nellie   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Balwin stated he feels persecuted....now you know how the gays and lesbians feel.


Joe   May 2nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

It is good to try to protect and strengthen traditional marriage, but how does gay marriage weaken traditional marriage? It doesn't.


Iren   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

If God is Love...
If God created all of us...with all our human frailties and challenges...
Who are WE to judge other than to support any two humans in love?
If God is Love, God will "save" every person, in God's Love and forgiveness.
Let us not judge. Extend love, and, if in doubt, err on the side of including someone random God does love!


Brenda Dunn   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

I do not agree with gay marriage, but it sure would be one way to control the population. Let a man try to have a baby with another man, and a woman try to have a baby with another woman and just see how far they get.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

If we left civil rights issues up to the people, slavery would still be followed in the south!


Rick M   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

In california the people have spoken. They voted for marriage to be between a man and a women. Our soldiers have died in Iraq so they could have a right to vote. Men & Women now have the right to vote in Iraq. What if californians dont like the out come of the presidential selection are they going to be able to reverse it? NO! we voted and the people have spoken


Marisol Daniels   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Any restriction on marriage based on the differences of two individuals-be it race or sex-is discriminative. There was a time in this nation's history when the marriage of two individuals of a difference race was believed to be "unnatural" in "Gods" eye due to the differences of color. Now we point to a difference in anatomy and make the same argument.


Glenn   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Why do Christians only look to the old testament when they need to find something negative about homosexuality? But don't think the other abominations listed in the old testament such as eatting shell fish and pork are valid?


Brandi Bryan   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

does Shanna Molkler know that this country was founded on Christian principles and from what my bible said God loves the sinner but hates the sin and homosexuality is a sin.


Nicole   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

How about the fact that it takes a man and a woman to make those children – you cannot make a child with 2 men. you cannot make a child with just 2 women. The institution of marriage is a man and a woman for a reason.


Terrence Fultz   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Please do not compare race to or gender issues to those of sexual preferences. Last I checked, two people of different races can procreate.


Common Sense   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Why do "Christians" pick and choose what they want from the bible? How is being gay worse than divorce or adultery?


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

@Kwame Asamoah
They are all sins as well. Homosexuality is a abominable sin. Thieves, murderers, & other sinners aren’t publically trying to force their sinful nature on the rest of us. I don’t know any thieves trying to add “The Art of Theft”, on a school curriculum. I don’t know any trying to receive licensing, benefits & privileges designed for married people, or even a special drivers license for all it matters.


Peter Gould   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

It's so annoying to hear people complain about how gay marriage will ruin the sanctity of marriage. Straight people have already done a good enough job at making marriage look like a joke with the huge divorce rate in this country. Miss California should be able to voice her opinion freely, but it doesn't make her any less ignorant.


michelle   May 2nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

Miss California is s peaking her mind it's great she has christian beliefs and shares her opinion on gay marriages and I totally think it would be rediculous forher to lose her crown over it. I wish they would ask her more important questions such as closing our borders. Because I wish they would not because of this flu but it's true we are not a department store we are a country.


Michael Rogan   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

I find it annoying when Stephen Baldwin, star of "Threesome," quotes the piece of the Holy Code (Leviticus) that fits his purpose, but ignores its overall content.

If the argument against gay marriage is a religious one, it needs to stay in the churches. We have a separation of church and state. So if opponents claim a sanctity argument, then ban marriage across the board. Give everyone the option of a civil union and let the churches dole out the title of marriage. But stop using it as a valid reason to deny people rights.

The Bible has been historically used to justify slavery and oppression against women as well. When will people learn that that is not acceptable to use the Bible to promote ignorance.

As a country that promotes freedom and so concerned about rights, we are far behind on this issue. It is embarrassing.


Michael Wright   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

Ann, these fools that have posted is just too foolish to know that they would appear a whole lot smarter if they would keep their mouth shut. Keep up the good work. Our day of judgment is coming, and America will get to know the real Obama; for those who are too dumb to see and know right now.

So said a black man!


Chandra   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

Miss California has every right to express HER opinion and what she believes in. As well as Mr. Baldwin BUT so does every other American who believes in same sex marriage. That is the great thing about our country! We can believe in what we want to believe in, religion, lifestyle and sexual orientation. Mr. Baldwin is correct about the great book that he believes in BUT not everyone in this country believes in that book. And that is their right! Religion has nothing to do with politics and laws. As great as our country is, our government should NOT be able to tell people who they can and can't love, who they can or can't marry. It might not be right to one person but right for another and that should be our right to choose, as Americans.


hugh hopkins   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

When opponents of interracial marriage bitterly complained about feeling persecuted when they voiced their bigoted, medieval opinions, did anyone listen to them or care?


Rev. Wynelle Alexander   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

I really think it is "rediculous" they way everyone has and is criticizing Miss California for HER beliefs.....She was ASKED this question, hopefully for AN ANSWER....which she GAVE......And What?....because it wasn't what the person that asked or the audience or THE MEDIA wanted to hear now she's going to be crucified for it?.....I feel SHE has just as much RIGHT to her opinion as EVERYONE ELSE....If it matters...I FEEL THE SAME WAY!!!....For Christ sake....Can society move on to something that's REALLY a problem....like HOW CAN WE KEEP JOBS and HOMES!!!


Debbie   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

You come out and say you are gay
God made you this way,
except it, this is the U.S.A.
You want equal rights
without any fights.
You want all things
which marriage brings.
Husband and Husband
Wife and Wife,
this is the American life.
But if God had made Adam and Steve
instead of making Adam and Eve,
Just where would you be
this question, I ask of thee?


ADRIANA MURILLO   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

SHANA MOEKLER: WHO DIED AND MADE YOU THE EXPERT ON "ANY" TOPIC........I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO SHOW MY DOPED, DISFUNCTIONAL FACE AFTER YOUR "BLONDENESS" ON YOUR REALITY , TRAILER TRASH SHOW.
I PRAISE MISS CALIFORNIA FOR EXPRESSING HER TRUE VIEWS ON A CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC........THANK GOODNESS FOR THIS COUNTRY'S FREEDOMS.


Allen   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

God loves everyone but He hates sin. The gay lifestyle is sin according to the Bible. Trying to redefine marriage to be politically correct is pitiful.
After God created Adam in the book of Genesis, He said man needed a "helper." Did he create a man for this union with Adam? No, He created a woman.

It's that simple for those of us whole live according to the Bible.


SHIRLEY   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

I BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. WE ARE NOT GOD AND CAN NOT JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE IN WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. GAY MARRIAGE, STRAIGHT MARRIAGE, WHOSE BUSINESS IS IT IF TWO PEOPLE LOVE EACH OTHER AND WANT TO MARRY??? I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE PERTAINING TO IT. WHY IS THERE ALWAYS A CONTROVERSY WHEN SOMEONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT OR HAS DIFFERENT VIEWS??? WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH PEACE AND LOVING THY NEIGHBOR.
THOSE THAT TOUT THE BIBLE SHOULD REMEMBER TO RESPECT ONE ANOTHER... LIVE AND LET LIVE, STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. THIS IS MEANT FOR PRO-GAYS AND ANTI-GAYS.


David   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

why impose your religion on other people? do we really do this for all our laws, if we did use religion, then would we be killing our enemies or would we be loving them like Jesus said to do.


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

bill The first century church was not divided about whether or not homosexuality was ok they kicked people out for all forms of sexual immorality not just homosexuality, unless they correct their behavoir and then they may come back in, as instructed in 1st corinthians chapter 5 the 1st century definition of fornication was pornea which was civil divorce and remarriage (except for 1st corinthians ch 7 allowances), homosexuality, beastiality, and marrying a close relative.


James MacArthur   May 2nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

I did not catch the name of the woman is the president of the organization promoting traditional marriage BUT IT DRIVES ME CRAZY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE HER, WHO REPRESENT THAT POINT OF VIEW DO NOT CITE THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF RESEARCH DATA THAT SUPPORTS A MAN AND A WOMAN MARRIAGE PRODUCING HEALTHIER FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. I teach these subjects at a university level and there are buckets of well done research to support that a MAN and a WOMAN produce healthier families. The woman who represented this point of view SAID NOTHING ABOUT ALL THAT RESEARCH. This is NOT a subject that is "just a matter of opinion" as one of the guests said tonight.
Mother and father are NOT VERBS as Joy B. said--the research shows otherwise and it has been collected for many years. Joy–READ THE RESEARCH AND GET INFORMED AND STOP FLAPPING YOUR LIPS WHEN YOU HAVE NOT DONE YOUR HOMEWORK.


cookie   May 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

Spain and Canada are just two of several countries that legalized same-sex civil marriage. Discussions should include what is going on in this countries in terms of SAME-SEX CIVIL MARRIAGE.
The fears that some people, and rightly so, are concerned about, did not matterialized in these countries.
NOM's arguments does not hold water taking Spain's and Canada's experience into consideration.


Adam   May 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

Marriage should no longer be a religious affair. As soon as judges were allowed to issue marriage certificates, marriage became a state affair. Therefore, we should have "Separation of Church and State," meaning that if the judge decides to marry a gay couple, that's their choice and the marriage should be recognized by the state. This country needs to move on from hatred and discrimination.


Kathy   May 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

If any one thinks that 'gayness" is developmental is not the parent of a gay person, or a teacher of a gay person, or a friend of a gay person. In other words, that person has not had those life experiences yet to make an accurate judgement. I can only say that being a supporter of equal rights of gay and lesbian people would be meaningful edeavor to that young lady's life.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

Adam believing in Christ doesn't make you a bigot, it simply makes you stupid! Anyone who believes in anything without proper evidence is STUPID!


Paul   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

Perversion is what people do to turn out bigot children, and turn people against each other, because you entertain your self at the pain on others in the name of religion.
Perversion is giving an 18 year old a license to die in Iraq, but not a marrage license per your opinion.


Molly G.   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

Props to Miss California for speaking her mind. At the same time, shame on her for saying that she's praying for Perez Hilton and that she feels sorry for him. He's gay. Get over it. What if your son, daughter, brother, sister was gay? Would you shun them? Disown them? And all the God-believing people, does it not say to love your neighbor as yourself? I understand that God said that homosexuality is a sin, but do you honestly believe that you are better than a gay person? And who is to say that they don't deserve the same rights as a straight person? Unless you actually think you're better. I'm straight, but many of my friends are gays. I love them dearly and I desperately want them to have that white picket fence and two kids and the all American dream. They are better human beings than most people I know. They deserve to get married and be happy and have everything they want. And shame on you to those who think otherwise.


betty lee   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

while i think it is ok for people of the same sex to rear a child, the world could not continue if all we had was people of the same sex here.i mean dog, man, have your life with your choice ,but same sex couples is not how they got here.geeeeeez! STOP WHINNING AND JUST LIVE.


Cristobal de Georgia   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

While I applaud the beauty queens courage in stating her view, I must say American citizens not being allowed to marry the person of their choice IS blacks not being able to vote, and IT IS women not being able to vote or earn an income. It is NOT justice and liberty for ALL. When our government put the good of one group before the good of ALL citizens our governement has failed. The presence of religion and religious agendas in the American government creates one more thing in common with countries like IRAN.

Every American should have the same right to legally marry the person of their choice.


Jenni   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

Hey Warren! Everything from that computer you're using to toilet paper is "unnatural" and small pox is natural. So what? "Natural" means nothing.

Hey, Helen! Same sex relations are seen in the animal world. Read! Books are your friends.


filomena rosario   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

Why is it that being married the traditional way is such a contreversy. I believe if one person cares for the well being of another person . On can buy insurance and leave wills written to make sure that person is taken care of..

Gay life style is a private preferences and it should not be pushed on the traditional society. That will make our rights violated that we are obligated to be exposed to non biblical behavior . The love will not less , we don't love by gender but a persons heart.


David   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

ok


David Jones   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

How very typical that CNN would not allow Stephen Baldwin to respond to any comments once he voiced his confirmation of God's Word condemning gay marriage. Further, he is absolutely correct that any anti-gay marriage comment is persecuted by main stream media by always giving gay marriage supporters the last word.


MARY WADE   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

I AM PROUD TO SEE MR BALDWIN VOICE HIS OPINION. HOLLYWOOD NEEDS MORE PEOPLE LIKE HIM! I FEEL HE IS CORRECT IN THAT WE "CHRISTIANS" OR MORAL PEOPLE ARE SLAPPED DOWN FOR OUR BELEIFS AND THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ACCEPT EVERY THING ELSE!


Michael   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

This beautiful, young, extremely smart women is making alot of americans proud their is still decency in our country. I personally believe its nasty for two men to sleep together. As a man one should be upright, strong, and celebate until marriage. Man is to be Godly to protect those who are weakest in our society. Or nobody will.


Lucy   May 2nd, 2009 12:52 am ET

People should just get down to the real issues regarding gay marriage. The core issue is that anyone should be able to take care of any other significant person in their life. They should be able to put them on insurance, make medical decisions, make other significant decisions, etc. We should even extend these type of concerns/benefits to other "significants" including siblings, grandchildren, grandparents, maybe even friends, etc. Proof of significance might be a little hard to define, but we can work that out.

Marriage is between a man and a woman, gay unions should be called just that or pick another word.


Paavo Korpi   May 2nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

The California cutie is right. The queers should go back in their closets and get therapy to get cured from their disgusting perverted life style.They should never be allowed legitimacy by some pretext of being "married" like normal people.
Furthermore, under no circumstances should they be allowed to raise children either


joanne   May 2nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

I do not believe that gay marriage should be allowed-marriage has been in all cultures between man and woman from the beginning of time, not just in our culture-yes, homosexuality has always been present but normally was not a something that was advertised-
think about this for a minute-two same sex friends are just that – friends-when does homosexuality enter into-when sex is involved-
where do they get these polls that say most americans approve-everyone I know from all walks of life both spiritual and not, are not in favor of same sex marriage – also if two people are living together, should they also have the same rights as married individuals?


Adam   May 2nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

God did write the Bible, throught people he inspired. And the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, women and men.


Jessicawithey   May 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

On gay marriage: I am a straight women happily married and I am one hundred percent for gay marriage. Also I would like to ask all those who are against it, why does it effect you at all if two men or two women want to spend there lives together and have the same rights and respect as anyone else? I don't understand how someone else decides to spend their lives effects u at all...


Al   May 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

I guess the People's First Amendment isn't a right anymore when it conflicts with the views of the vocal minority. We gave Bush a hard time for trampling over the Bill of Rights but it is okay to trample over it because Gay activists are the the ones doing the trampling.


Common Sense   May 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Who are we to pretend to be God, America is the freedom of religion, not the Judge and Jury of religion. Don't force your "beliefs" on someone but your freedoms!!!


Kimberly   May 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

I suport same sex marrege.
People tend to say it is a sin due to the bible. Ok? so, we all are now reading the same bible and are of the same denomination?
NOT QUITE!!!! Meny other country's are much more religious the us americans, and they exept same sex marreges, and it is NOT a sin.
I believe by taking this right away from these people whom are TRULY happy togather, that ,my friend is a sin...
there is far worse things in the world to worry about, like child abuse,neglect,animal abuse,drugs, and globle concerns.
Why ruin someones happiness. After all, they were lucky enough to find it!!!


Gordon Cipra   May 2nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

About Gay marriage.:
By supporting gay marriage does not mean in any way that
you're opposed to traditional marriage. It's about equality & acceptance. Legalizing gay marriage in no way is taking anything away from those who want to get married & are a man & woman; it's about extending the same right to same sex couples. We can not deny happiness to two people who love other.


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Who do you think has the gay babies?


cherin   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Where is my comment? I thought we had free speech here.


Mike T.   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Your guest said God is a God of love and He is. But may I remind her that God is also a God of Righteous Judgement. God created men and women to have the ability to not only pro-create the human race but also to share unique intimacy with one another through the sexual union. It was never designed to be shared any other way but between one man and one woman within the confines of a monogomous marriage. To do otherwise results in dyer consequences emotionally, physically, and spiritually. God does love everyone but God hates the things that hurt us and lead us away from Him and like the Good Father that He is, He warns us not to do things that are harmful to us. Also, like the Good Father that He is, He lets us experience the consequences of our wrong actions.


i-love-gays   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Wow - Maggie sure got her big butt handed to her tonight.

Thanks Shanna - you rock !!!!

I'm sure poor Magpie is sinking her gray teeth into a box of donuts tonight (or maybe diving head first into a gallon of ice cream).


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

That was meant for the poet Debbie.


Stan, CO   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

It infuriates me to have a host that allows a left wing, liberal gay rights supporter to say all she wants, but who cuts off Steven Baldwin when he makes mention of God and the Bible. This country is in bad shape because we have strayed far from the Biblical, Christian foundations of our forefathers. The ONLY hope for America is to get back to our roots. I fully believe the only way to again become the most prosperous, blessed and well favored country in the world is to do what our money says: "In God We Trust". If God says gay marriage is wrong, we should Trust Him to know what He's talking about!!!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

@Brian
Cristian Ripoll is why I YELL!

Do not compare your deviant sexual behavior to racially charged slavery. Eww...How dare you! Homosexuals faux claim to rights is not a civil rights issues. Slaves had NO rights, Homo's have all the same rights as every individual citizen. Hijack someone else's history & leave ours alone! Better yet stand on your own feet, if it's true that your being discriminated against, use your own history, & incidents.

DO NOTCOMPARE YOUR SIN TO THE COLOR OF MY SKIN.


Donette Gardner   May 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

Gay Marriage is an immoral act. God created Adam & Eve not Adam
and Steve or Tasha & Sasha to be one flesh. We were created to
reproduce. If I have a gay neighbor I would not allow my kids to
visit them, how could I explain their behaviour to my children.


Jeffery Sherred   May 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

I always thought that "marriage" was neutered term. I know it's always been thought of as between a man and a woman; however, like so many other things in society today, it has changed. If 2 people are committed and happy what differrence does their gender make? Gay people are not trying to force their preferences on anyone else, rather, they are making a choice. Where the word "parenting" is concerened it is also another non gender specific term that has traditionally been used as mommy and daddy. This has also changed as there are alot of women and men who should not be parents. Sexual preference has nothing to do with what kind of parent someone would be.


Danielle   May 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

Hi Larry,
It is not fair for people to prevent others to express their view on gay marriage. One day if someone is not gay, He/she will not be able to find a job. God is against Gay and being gay is an abomination.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

hey Adam the bible also says If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. So are you for killings people who commit adultry???


maggie tinsley   May 2nd, 2009 12:56 am ET

all this talk of not judging another is totally misrepresented. Of course we can judge the behavior of another person. Wouldn't we all agree that murder is wrong? We are not however given the right to judge the soul of another– that is the businees of God. Miss California has the right to believe that gay marriage is a wrong behavior based on her faith just as you and I would probably agree that stealing is wrong behavior. By the way where do get your definition of right and wrong? do you just kind of know it in your soul?– maybe, there is a God and he does have a standard we are to live by!


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

dear common sense

I do not pick and choose what I want and I am very much christian to answer you question, paul wrote that homosexuality was the farthest level of sexual deprivation though no I agree adultery and divorce were not on pauls acceptable list either this was just the worst one and takes place after God turns his face away because of the other two and any other sexually immoral practices we can find to do


April in Wisconsin   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

Good for all christains for standing up for marriage between a man and a woman, unbelievers who think God didn't write the Bible I will pray for your awakening and forgiveness. Too bad a few have such loud voices that others are persecuted for believing what is true and right. It is refreshing that someone in the lime light is willing to stand up and say how they truely believe. God tells us right and wrong and forgives us when we do wrong provided we repent. He also tells us we will be persecuted for believing, no time in our society has this been more true than now. My prayer for all who believe in same sex marriage please I pray you will read and study the Bible and see a path of better living. In the meantime God Bless the youmg woman for saying what she believes and Bless her for being willing to suffer because of her courage to say what she believes. May she kow there are many including myself that believe as she does, Bless all!


Tammy   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

Honosexuality is wrong!! God created Man (Adam) then from Adams rib created Woman (Eve). NOT Adam & Steve!!! How 2 men can kiss, hold, have sex is beyond sick, in my opion!! Tho God will forgive them ,God does not approve of homosexuality, I hope i did mispell it, it's sick & wrong!!! Thank you


Patricia   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

All these people who are so opposed to 'gay marriage'...no one is forcing them to choose what their relationship is...and free will IS free will. All people seek to fulfill love. Those who are gay are no exception. Those who are hetrosexual are going to have to learn to value marriage in their lives, as their choice and stop trying to 'legislate' having their choice enforced upon everyone to establish this value. Browbeating the gays with biblical 'law' has no healing qualities about it nor does it honor God's creation of free will...nor is it something that Jesus would actually do.


Sandi in Canada   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

I find it astounding that some people are actively waging war against gay marriage. Why on earth do they want to prevent two people who love each other from expressing that love in the same way straight couples do? It seems to me that these advocates would do well to find something a little more worthy of their time – like raising funds for the homeless or hungry. I find it all sad, and I can only attribute their passion for their fight to ignorance.


Jerry Williams   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

I'm glad she stuck to her guns about what is right. Anyone ever wonder why the world is in the state that it's in now? Maybe I'm wrong but you have so much going on in the world and now you have folks saying that a man and women marriage is not the American way. You even have a paster (Rev) trying to say it's fine for a women to be married to a women. God knows why a man would want to sleep and live in a relationship with a man. We are living in a world where we are letting this exist. Well, I think God is working on us down here and no one is picking up on it. Maybe this swine ful that's going around will make us wake up and understand we can not live down here the way we are living and going against the bible. Wake up America!!


elton   May 2nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

fellow americans,
when a man looses his origin and foundation,there is an inbalance in his cultural ways,principals,ethics and ways of living...this is a free country and you can do whatever you want as long as its not illegal..but amending the constitutions and believes our fore fathers who built this country with a strong christian foundation is a shame and is very pathetic..
and for those who are very selective in reasoning,the Holy bible does not justify being gay or lesbian but rather condemns it....as a matter of fact; the city of soddom and gomorrah was destroyed because of sinful ways of such and these sins are tanishing the foundation of this country...
He that has ears,let him hear
N:B miss carlifornia has the right especially when right to express her views about gay/lesbianism


WQ   May 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

God is a loving God and will forgive anyone who really repents of his or her sins and accepts God as their savior. The Bible was not written by God, was inspired by God, and written by the apostles. The Bible is full of sinners that changed and were forgiven by God. Gay marriage is a union that is not recognized by the word of God as many other things that none believers and believer continue to do. God knows we are week on the flesh and he gave us the bible as tool to be better and closer to him.


LHD   May 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Same sex marriages do not result in children........is there a message here ?


Jeff Lawrence   May 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

love is love- so what if it's with a person of the opposite sex or not. Yes, gay marriage cannot lead to reproduction- that's a beautiful benefit of heterosexuality...but I don't see a problem with two people loving each other and wanting to make a commitment to each other. If people want to outlaw gay marriage because they think kids require both a mom and a dad to raise them, the government should outlaw divorce. I think when you really boil it down, it's Christian religion that is driving this whole thing. If we truly want a separation of church and state, we need to legalize gay marriage...Christians can still think it's wrong if they want...that's the beauty of living in a free country.


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Claudia, just thank us gays for fighting for you when you needed it.


joy kutaka-kennedy   May 2nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Prop 8 on hate made it illegal for 2 people (same sex) who love each other to marry.

It's discrimination, regardless of your rationale and justification, like miscegenation, women voting, blacks voting, etc. was once illegal.

When you codify hate and make it legal to discriminate, you are relegating a group of people to second class status. You are implicitly condoning maltreatment of this group- witness the murder of Matthew Shepard, the one that the NC politician called a hoax.

Children are being seriously abused and tortured by the moniker "gay", "fag", "dyke", etc, as evident in the recently publicized suicide of the 2 middle school boys.

These kids are merely acting out the homophobia that the same sex opponents are couching as the blessed word of God, which also says women are property. Are religions always right? Marriage of 9 year old girls in Islam or multiple wives in the original Book of Mormon? These documents are created by men. And the Holy Bible can be used to support any position.

Hate is hate, no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Denying same sex marriage is just like denying the marriage of interracial couples. Love is love, and love includes all, forgives all, accepts all, embraces all and supports all.


Robert   May 2nd, 2009 12:59 am ET

Marriage is define by the church...it was invented by GOD man a woman....when he created man he said lets give a man a companion....God made a woman...not another man.....also if God destroy a city over this issue in the past, why we want to revive this issue again?? The USA is only 200 plus years and yet we are so fast to change World views...why???? A man can never teach a kid how to breast feed a baby , woman can't teach a kid to stand to used the restroom.....even the animals got it right....what's going on people...civil unions, fine..but Do not insult God.
gay practices is not a sin, it's a abomination, which is by nature offensive to the lord..

read Genesis Chapter 19....there's you answer


michael   May 2nd, 2009 12:59 am ET

Its funny how you have a so called rev on your show, she doesnt know anything about the true word of god, Steven was right, the bibile says man shall not lay down with man, so why didnt you have true christian pastors on the show? I feel everyone has to bow to the homo or else your a bad guy and first of all marriage is for the little girls who dream of her prince charming, when do you ever hear of a man saying when I was little all I dreamed about was my wedding day. so save marriage for men and women so little girls can dream of it


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

Claudia you really need to go to school and drop the iron age mumblings of the bible. Who the hell are we as a government to tell people who you can fall in love with? I think it‘s absurd that fact it‘s even being debated.

We can solve the problem simply. Government only acknowledges civil unions then you don‘t have to put your sex down. Let the churches acknowledge marriage. They are the private sectors. If they don‘t want to acknowledge it, they have every right to do so.

How on earth can we even entertain the fact that government should have the ability to tell you as an individual who you can fall in love with? Ridiculous and so are you!


MC ..... SLC   May 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

To Mr Baldwin
You said God wrote the bible.
And God is the Judge.
I agree God is the JUDGE. not you, not me.
God will the Judge us all my friend, I do not think we are on this plant to judge one another. Do you? I think we should take care of ourselves and those who ask for our help. We can teach our children our beliefs but we should not force what we believe on others nor should they on us.
If two people of the same sex want to marry, that does not affect me or my quality of life or the decisions I make for me or my family.
There was a time in this great country of ours ( that I love) that a man and women of different race could not marry, women could not vote blacks could not vote.. somehow someones understanding of the bible was that blacks and women were not equal to a white man.
Give me a break.
I am a white heterosexual male. If gays are aloud to marry I am not all of a sudden going to marry another man. Are you? Does it really affect your life or mine? if yes how. In our great country we have the freedom of choice.But closed minded people are always finding away to take it away from us.
Common it's the 21st century
I am not the the judge of human kind. Are you?
God will judge us in the end and we then will be held accountable for our choices.
Mike C
If that is how you believe.


Rev. Robert L Turner   May 2nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

I disagree with gay marriages because the Bible clearly states "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination" Leviticus 18:22.

This Scripture prohibited homosexual activity, also see Romans 1:26-27. In the larger picture, such activity is utterly at odds with the creation idea in Genesis 2:23-24.

Yes God is a loving God and a forgiving God. He loves all people but this is a sin according to the Bible; God's Word!!


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

@ Common Sense

I will not force my beliefs on anyone, but put it on the ballot and I will surely VOTE my beliefs. Morals & values are ingrained in us, some through secular indoctrination, others through a faith bases system. Regardless, of which perspective we will vote our BELIEFS! I beleive marriage is between a man and a woman.


MICHELE   May 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

LET'S TAKE ROSIE O'DONNELL AND ELLEN BOTH OF THESE WOMEN WHEN SPEAKING OF THEIR CHILDHOOD ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT THEIR MOTHERS WERE NON FUNCTIONING SUFFERED FROM DEPRESSION, LET'S LOOK AT THESE TWO RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN MOTHER AND DAUGHTER. THESE DAUGHTHERS SOMEHOW IN THEIR PSYCHE IT WAS BEEN ENGRAVED NOT TO EMULATE THAT PARENT, THEY NEEDED TO BE THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE, AT A YOUNG AGE THEY LEARN TO BE STRONG AND TO BE THE MAN OF THE FAMILY.

WHY WOULD ANY ONE CHOOSE AN ORIFICE THAT PRODUCES FECES FULL OF BACTERIA "E-COLI" AND THINK IT'S NORMAL?? PSYCHOLOGICALLY THIS IS SIGNIFICANT. THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENED TO DISTORT THEIR VIEWS OF A REGULAR RELATIONSHIP A MAN AND A WOMAN


bud schoth   May 2nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

what people do in private is between them and god.
what people do in public in front of those of us who believe in god should be ridiculed and shunned. gays should go back in the closet and stay there !!!!! . Please save our innocent childeren from this grotesqe behavior. miss california was 100% right in answering that question, so support her or leave her alone.


Ramon   May 2nd, 2009 1:02 am ET

I'm sure you all have heard both sides of the story, and everyone is entitle to their own opinion, but the truth remains the same GOD does love the sinner, but he hates the sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in his eyes. We should be rejoycing for this is a sign that is suppose to happen prior to his coming. When you look at all the civilitations and great empires in the world, they destroyed themselves from the inside, common denominator SEXUAL IMMORALITY. Those who live in life style are welcome to do it, but there is a consequence for been disobidient. Repent and be saved JESUSCHRIST is coming soon.


debbie   May 2nd, 2009 1:02 am ET

"God" DID NOT write the bible - HUMAN MEN wrote the bible.

it was written to put the fear of a "magic man in the sky" into people, and keep them orderly (and to keep women obedient).


Robert In Washington DC   May 2nd, 2009 1:02 am ET

Warren –
real in-depth and original response there... oh and by the way, the bible also says that sex in positions other than ways defined within the bible is wrong, I'm sure that's acceptable to you, huh?


D Kelly   May 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

I cannot believe the stupidty of people here who write that their lifestyle is okay because is love and loves them. Yes, God is Love and He is Perfect Love and Yes He does love all of humanity, but He gave the world a code to live by. He sent His only begotten Son to die for the SINS of the world and if any believed in Him, they would not perish, but have everylasting life. He sent the laws of God into the world as a tutor until they would be lead into true righteousness through Jesus Christ. The blood of Jesus washes away all sin to those who accept His sacrifice. God loves the world, but He hates sin and does not want any to perish. Sin is in many categories, but all can be changed, healed and forgiven if they walk in His precepts. Homosexuality is NOT a family value. It is hurtful, confusing, unnatural, sinful and will never be normal no matter how loud the gays yell out. God loves them and wants to set them free from these unnatural affections, Romans 1. Both the Old and New Testaments condemn this perverse lifestyle, but God loves people and desires for all to come into the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and be set free from the lies the enemies has planted in people's minds and affections.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

Robert do actully believe the nonsense your saying? My god no wonder Americans are the laughing stock of the modern world!

Robert, the danger of religious faith is that it allows otherwise normal human beings to reap the fruits of madness and consider them holy!


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:03 am ET

Cristian Ripoll: I'd like to add that only civil unions (legal "marriages") should get the benefits from the government. If the "religious marriage" is so important, do that and don't make it legal.


joy in CA   May 2nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

please take my last name off of my post! It's my first time posting on LKL and I didn't know the protocol.


Dwight Williams   May 2nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Same sex marriage is immoral and is an abomination to God. The bible clearly states that homosexuality is detestable. God established marriage as an institution and union between a man and woman. Man does not have the authority to alter God’s law.


Joe   May 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

Listen to these people. Behar obviously doesn' t think a man is necessary. Woman like these are why our Founding Fathers didn't want them to even vote.

Our country will eventually fail and it will be a direct result of the spread of liberalism, the destruction of the family, much higher taxes, massive federal debt, and the downgrading of our military.

We will be attacked again, and what will Obama's response be? Probably something like, Oh Man, now come on guys, cut that out and be cool to the homeboy. That should get a good laugh out of these terrorists, oh look they've elected a total camel's rear end in America, he thinks he's our friend!

Liberal politicians elected by liberals are in the process of undoing the 200 + years of this country, and it isn't for the betterment of the country.


YERVAND   May 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

MARRIAGE IS MARRIAGE PERIOD. SAME SEX INDIVIDUALS CHOOSING TO LIVE THE LIFESTYLE IS THEIR OWN CHOICE THAT THEY DECIDE TO LIVE. IT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO QUESTION AND OR JOIN IN THE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE KNOWN FOR ALL FOR CENTURIES. IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED ADAM AND EVE. THAT PRETTY MUCH SAY'S A LOT BY ITSELF. BY SIMPLY LOOKING AND SEEING OUR OWN BODY, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH FIGURE OUT IF WE ARE MALE OR FEMALE. PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVE'S GAY OR BEING BORN GAY IS FULL OF JUNK. IT'S A SORT OF JUSTIFYING THERESELVE'S FOR THE SINFUL LIFESTYLE THEY'RE LIVING IN. YOU ARE BORN WITH WHAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE., AND NOT BY THE LIFESTYLE YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE. MARRIAGE IS ONLY BETWEEN 1 MAN AND 1 WOMAN. MAN AND MAN, WOMAN AND WOMAN IS ONLY A LIFESTYLE THAT IS SINFUL AND APART FROM THE NORMAL MARRIAGE KNOWN TO MOST NORMAL AND RIGHT MINDED PERSON.


Sabby   May 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

David, why impose homosexuality on people? Why is it that everyone is so offended by Christians,but people love what is wrong and considered sin and has been considered sin since the beginning of time. It has been in the past say 25 years that sin has become so prevelant. Only time will tell what God says about all this. All I got to say is I am living a life that is pleasing to God. If I have served my Savior for all this time and there is no eternal reward, then at least I have tried to live a clean life. Homosexuality is not clean; it is an abomination to God and to most of the people who live on planet Earth. Can anyone go back in history and pull out when homosexuality became the way of the family? Can anyone call upon history to show how two women or two men can create a family from a sexual relationship? It is an impossibility! Why? Because it is not the way it was meant to be. I am appauled at the minister who is in agreement that marriage between any adult couple who love each other. Shame on her and before long, she will have to reap the words she's sown. God, El Shaddai bless all my true Christian family. –Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS Christ is Lord!


LindaG   May 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

I'm just a nature person to some degree. I have had many pets, and raised plants. Nature seems to explain a little about life. I can't see kittens from two male or two female cats though the two females or males might have fun together. I can't see cross pollination between two plants of the same sex. There is a male and a female plant in fertilisation. There are religious references, making marriage between males and females special which is why we have marriage to begin with in most cultures; some animals mate for life. I don't think it's right to make criminals out of people who choose same sex partners, but I don't think it's productive to make it acceptable because it's not a productive lifestyle, naturally speaking.


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

The Bible makes it clear that sexual immorality is like yeast on dough if it is permitted and not shunned it will spread and move through the entire lump so to legalize homosexuality or homosexual marriage is to condemn our generations maybe not my children or my childrens children but eventually all lines will fall to it, as Christ said the world will return to the wickedness sodom and gomorrah and of noahs time before the flood,


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

D Kelly: The only lifestyle I see in your diatribe is that you chose to believe a book without question. Being gay is not a lifestyle. It's a life.


Terrence Fultz   May 2nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

Jenni>>>Hey, Helen! Same sex relations are seen in the animal world. Read! Books are your friends.

Yeah and they usually do not evolve and eventually die out. I really want that fate. I love how gay ppl attack those that oppose homosexuality and please tell me how race compares to homesexuality in civil rights. To be gay is a choice, one cannot scrub the color off of themselves but a gay person can hide their lifestyle if need be. So please do not insult Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy.


Paavo Korpi   May 2nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

The California gal was right to express her views. The gays should go back in their closets and get therapy for their perverted behavior.
They should not be allowed any sense of legitimacy by some farcical pretense of being marrried like traditional married couples. They should not be allowed to raise children either.


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 1:07 am ET

Like I said already, you can‘t put a civil rights issue on the general ballot in a state and let people vote on it because if do you that, in the southern states before you can bet, they would have voted to continue slavery


ClaudiaJoy California   May 2nd, 2009 1:07 am ET

@Cristian Ripoll

Who the hell are we to tell NAMBLA they can not commit pedophilia? Who the hell are we to tell Murders they an not commit murder. Where did that sick concept come from?
Who the hell are we to stay one woman one man? More than one spouse will generate extra income for the family.
Who the hell are we to make prostitution illegal? They are adults it's their choice to sell sex, as long as they pay taxes it's should be legal.
Who the hell are we to to set laws inspired by balance & morals.

Give me the vote & I will tell you who I am!


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:08 am ET

Claudia Joy: Still waiting for you to show your appreciation to the gays that fought for your civil rights.


Dawn   May 2nd, 2009 1:08 am ET

I applaud Miss Cal. for standing up for what she believes in. If more christians would, states would not pass gay marriages. The bible started with Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve. It is an abomination to the Lord. People read your Bible.


G. Gilbert   May 2nd, 2009 1:09 am ET

I applaud the younglady for standing true to her belief. Leviticus 18:22,23 addresses the same issue and supports the same view. Jesus said it. Many believe it. Read it for yourself. King James version of the Scofield Bible.


Michelle   May 2nd, 2009 1:09 am ET

I believe that gay couples who want to form a union be allowed to do so and have the same rights as a married couple. While I may not believe in gay marriage as morally right, as a Libertarian, I do believe in freedom for everyone, and equal opportunity. However, I do feel this must be balanced with morality and legality concerns; otherwise, there would anarchy and/or decisions made without regard to ethics.

This is why I have some apprehension with gay marriage. I fear that eventually people will want to legalize polygamy or other alternative relationships. I think there should be a clear definition of what marriage is and personally, I believe it should remain between two individuals. If the definition of marriage is always allowed to evolve, then the idea of “marriage” itself, that is a long-term commitment between two individuals, begins to diminish and its role regresses to nothing more than an economic tool used to benefit certain individuals. I would hate to see that happen.


Rev. Robert L Turner   May 2nd, 2009 1:09 am ET

Dear Larry, in reply to what someone said, "God did not write the Bible but man," that is so true but not just any man, the Bible states knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but MEN SKOKE FROM GOD as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

God's Servant
Robert


Tim Coleman   May 2nd, 2009 1:10 am ET

Thou shall not lie with mankind ,as with womenkind: it is abomination.(Leviticus 18:22) Abomination means hatred or disgust. Whats left to be said? There is a reason why all through the Bible God likens all of us to sheep, think about that. God is love , but He is also judgement and wrath.


Kalu Kelly Emeaba   May 2nd, 2009 1:10 am ET

Gay and Lisbianism is foolishness and an act of rebelion.
Many people have come to the CNN/Larry King program and shared their personnal thoughts and not completely God's word. Even Pastor Joel Osten and many others.

The practice or exercise of gay and lisbianism is an abormination and brings curses to the people and the nation that permits them. The Miss California was right and should not be persecuted by any one.

In realities, the practice of gay and lisbianism is a purnishment from God to those men and women who endulge in them. This is specifically stated in the Bible in Romans chapter 1, verse 18 to 32.
Our Lord Jesus Christ said over and over again, " in the begining God made them male and female" . The scriptures called those who practice gay and lisbianism "Brute Beasts", Disobedient to parents.

And to make it clear no person practising gay and lisbianism is a Christian but deceiving themselves. Instead they are agents of the devil and committing abormination. The reduced themselves less than Dogs and Pigs.

I shall be willing to come on CNN\Larry King to talk about this. It is very painful when I watch those contending for such evil and aborminable practices. I shall be ready to teach and lead the public in the right direction about this matter. Many and our politicians too are making a big mistake.

I am an Overseer of Liberty Assembly, located in Laurel Maryland


nardofree VIRGINIA   May 2nd, 2009 1:10 am ET

GAY MARRIAGE DOESN'T HARM ANYONE? THE KIDDDDDDS! STOP TWISTING THE MINDS OF THE CHILDREN, WITH THE NOTION THAT, THEY CAN HAVE 2 MOMS OR 2 DADS! THE ONLY WAY TO COME INTO EXISTENCE IS THRU A MAN AND WOMAN! SO THE ONES THAT WILL SUFFER OR BE CONFUSED ARE THE CHILDREN! MAN + WOMAN= FAMILY. MAN + MAN DOES NOT = FAMILY NEITHER DOES WOMAN + WOMAN! TO HAVE A DONOR, YOU STILL NEED A MANNNNN! UNLESS, THERE IS A MORE TOLERANT WAY!


joanne   May 2nd, 2009 1:11 am ET

Iin response to the question about whether God expects us to stone adulterers-no Christ coming changed that-we can be forgiven our sins if we stop sinning and ask forgiveness-if we continue in our sin we can expect judgement when we die-God knows we are weak by nature to our selves and that is why we are supposed to form a relationship with Him-God is a God of love but he also is a God of judgement-jut like a parent-if we obey all is well but if we disobey, we are still loved but we are punished
I also agree with the person who said it isn't right to group homosexuality & rights into civil rights-as I previously stated a person isn't deemed\ gay unless they are in a sexual relationship with a same sex person so how can sex have anything to do with ones civil rights-


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 1:11 am ET

Do you bible thumpers know all the crazy bulls**t that is in the bible?

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

So do all you crazy bible lovers believe this too? If so, there are alot of women going to be killed by some wacky men on this comment board!


Timp   May 2nd, 2009 1:11 am ET

Dear Larry:

I am so sorry for your loss....Danny was....well, The Best. I had the honor of working with Donny Osmond as a Producer; many years ago at a local, and very small PBS station in Provo. Donny was more than a gentleman, he was a kind and generous guest; which in our house, was rare.

With the humble statement of Donnie and the impact that Danny Gans had on a Janitor in Vegas; we really get a photo op of what Danny Gans was to everyone in Vegas, humble, real, and a great talent which we have lost too early.

My greatest sympathies to you and your family.

With Love,
From Provo, Utah
Thanks, Larry for sitting in the stands for the Timpview Thunderbirds.

Please call on me if there is anything I can do.

Best.

Jane Wilson
Provo, Ut.


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:11 am ET

Claudia Joy: If the public had been given the vote you asked for, you would not have had your civil rights. Don't forget that the public in general was not your friend. Glad it wasn't put up to a vote. Are you?


YERVAND   May 2nd, 2009 1:12 am ET

SO CALLED GAYS WANTED TO PASS SAME SEX MARRIAGE AND PROP 8 WAS WAS BROUGHT IN TO SETTLE THE ISSUE, THEY WANTED, AND THEY GOT IT. PROP 8 WAS PASSED AND THATS THAT. YES ON 8, YES ON 8, YES ON 8.


change has come today   May 2nd, 2009 1:12 am ET

poor magpie gallagher got OWNED tonight courtesy of Shannon.

she must be so depressed tonight - i'll bet she's diving into a gallon of ice cream with a giant spoon.

i also noticed that ol' magpie wasn't wearing a wedding ring.
another piece of the puzzle falls into place ......


Michelle   May 2nd, 2009 1:12 am ET

I cannot believe the bigotry and hate I'm seeing going on in this country and people like to use their religion as an excuse to hate people who are different from them, who they don't understand. Gay people choose to live a gay lifestyle because if they didn't they'd be denying who they are. They wouldn't be following their heart. People cannot choose who they love. And they are people who deserve the same rights as anyone else. I don't see why God would have a problem with two people who love each other to get married. I think that Miss California did the right thing in standing up for what she believes in even though she wasn't as eloquent at stating how she felt as she could've but for her to continue talking about the issue and campaigning against same sex marriage is pushing it too far. People are attacking her because just like she has the right to say she doesn't believe in gay marriage, people have the right to disagree with her. I think it's fine for people to not agree with homosexuality or gay marriage but if it doesn't affect them in any way I don't see why their opinion matters. Church and state are two separate things and people shouldn't let their religious views affect how they vote on laws, especially laws that don't affect them in any way. The belief that homosexuality is wrong is one I will never understand and one that I believe is full of hate and bigotry and that I will never agree with.


gordon   May 2nd, 2009 1:12 am ET

dear debbie

If people wanted fear they didn't need to write the Bible to control people or women sorcerers or pharmakoi used drugs to pretend magic and control people through addiction and fear of spells and of the 'gods" these practices did way more to control people and make them rich and powerful, sorry but the Bible states that such a practice is abominable


Deborah Farler   May 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

Steve, is right, true Christians do consider themselves being presecuted for believing that it is a sin for same sex marriage, because God said it, just as He said it is a sin to kill.


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

Claudia Joy: Hello? Couldn't find a passage in the bible to retort?


Pameline   May 2nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

I don't think that Perez wants to be bashed for his beliefs and therefore should not bash others for theirs. Miss CA has a right to what she believes and Perez has a right to his. We are a diversified country and must be tolerant.
Joy you did a great job with Ann tonight.


Robert In Washington DC   May 2nd, 2009 1:14 am ET

Claudia – you're such an upright and responsible citizen aren't you.. I'm sure you follow all the teachings of the bible to the word. I'm curious where do you deposit your votes for all your biblical good deeds that don't appear on your CA ballots? If you're married, I would be very surprised if you abstained before marriage. Do you envy? Do you lust? You seem like such the perfect citizen you're going to beat all of us to Heaven.. LOL.. give me a break..


Cristian Ripoll   May 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Oh claudia joy of californai, "Who the hell are we to tell Murders they an not commit murder", because as humans it is in our best interests of our species not to commit murder. It is inherent and not by some make believe psuedo superhero in the sky.


sruoypu   May 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

How far do we need to go in aligning U.S. legislation to the literal words of the Bible? How about the following?

Exodus 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.


Sabby   May 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

It's amazing how so many people have comments about the Bible who have never opened the book. They can tell you quickly that God did not write it, but couldn't quote one scripture to validate anything they are saying. At least we who read the Bible, which by the way has been around a lot longer than anyone who says it's not real or written by God, understand that God Almighty does not approve. It's apparent that the majority of people do not agree with homosexual lifestyle. However, it's disturbing that the majority won't come speak out against the lifestyle, but sit back and allow laws to change that will affect our children and their children. Shame on us Christians who sit by and watch it all happen. BTW, I thought it was quite rude to cut Stephen Baldwin off. He was on a roll and had scripture to back it up, but the media would not allow it to be heard. Shame on you too. The truth is being muzzled, because it's not news...the news is the loud-mouths who spew at anyone who disagrees with their sinful, unnatural affections for the same sex. How uncool.


xxxray   May 2nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Vervand: Clarification please. Are you against the use of the word "marriage" or are you against "civil unions" with all the same rights as straight unions?


Daisy   May 2nd, 2009 1:16 am ET

Being Miss USA is not about being true to one's beliefs, but being an opened minded person and excepting other's beliefs as well. People are entitled to their opinion, and Carrie Prejean is "sticking to what she said." Well I have a question for her. "Carrie, what would you do or say if someday one of your children were gay?" Would Prejean still stick to her words??? Oh, and Carrie "Would God and the bible believe that getting implants is the right thing to do?" You get implants, but you are against gay marriage??? If Prejean was so true to herself, she would not have gotten implants. I'm sure God or the bible doesn't say get implants and stand against gay marriages.