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February 20, 2009

Limbaugh: Mr. President, Keep the Airwaves Free

Posted: 08:15 AM ET

By conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh

Dear President Obama:

I have a straightforward question, which I hope you will answer in a straightforward way: Is it your intention to censor talk radio through a variety of contrivances, such as "local content," "diversity of ownership," and "public interest" rules - all of which are designed to appeal to populist sentiments but, as you know, are the death knell of talk radio and the AM band?

You have singled me out directly, admonishing members of Congress not to listen to my show. Bill Clinton has since chimed in, complaining about the lack of balance on radio. And a number of members of your party, in and out of Congress, are forming a chorus of advocates for government control over radio content. This is both chilling and ominous.

As a former president of the Harvard Law Review and a professor at the University of Chicago Law School, you are more familiar than most with the purpose of the Bill of Rights: to protect the citizen from the possible excesses of the federal government. The First Amendment says, in part, that "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." The government is explicitly prohibited from playing a role in refereeing among those who speak or seek to speak. We are, after all, dealing with political speech - which, as the Framers understood, cannot be left to the government to police.

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Michael C. McHugh   February 20th, 2009 8:23 am ET

My philosophy with Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and others of that type is just to boycott them. Just turn the channel. These people are not interested in having a discussion or listening to any ideas different from their own, so just boycott them. Limbaugh doesn't even realize it would make his show more interesting if he actually had people on there who disagreed with him, instead of just one guy lecturing to an audience that already agrees with everything he says.


Mike, FL   February 20th, 2009 9:05 am ET

You mean treat him with the same one-sidedness as Ann Coulter was treated last night? Never listen, never learn, never have an open mind? Only listen to what we like to here? The idea is to try and find some common ground. We need extremist on both sides, not just yours (CNN).


elisha   February 20th, 2009 9:32 am ET

Rush is absolutely right. Is this the end of a free nation?


t.taylor   February 20th, 2009 9:34 am ET

race to the mike liberals willing to hack apart the constitution want this to happen.we have over the last 20 years been allowing this to happen.1.emanate domain 2. federalizing banks and free market institutions.3.gun laws.4.freedom of speech.all rights afford to ever law abiding citizen of the (greatest country in the world) united states of America. keep allowing it America and we will have no rights!!!!!


Irene, TX   February 20th, 2009 9:51 am ET

Oh, now he is whining... Poor baby...

I believe the same quoted clause implies that the President has a right NOT TO SEEK TO SPEAK with Mr. Limbaugh 🙂 Rush, why do you intend to censor President's preferences in talk shows? You are not on top of his list, so the Constitution and America itself are being destroyed ?!? 🙂 Another R with a grandeur syndrome.

RL's question sounds more like a provocation, a setup to destruct President and the media from more important things.


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 9:51 am ET

I do not take legal advice from drug addicts.


Lauro Silva-Brazil   February 20th, 2009 10:08 am ET

The people have to be free in order to see,hear and listen to what they want, however having a very clear idea at what extent that could come affecting their behavior. What any government has to do is just to allow the people the best educational pattern. Any restriction doesn´t come in handy at all.


Sed   February 20th, 2009 10:30 am ET

Rush is absoloutly right. I am one of his millions of fans.


sean brizendine   February 20th, 2009 11:02 am ET

all i have to say is remember we have the first amendment.
"sean in santa rosa"


Anne Stevenson   February 20th, 2009 11:28 am ET

Rush Limbaugh is nothing more than a right wing extremist. Extremist of any sort are dangerous. He will be the cause of his own demise, I say, " let him sink his own ship". It will be just a matter of time, the American people are getting fed up with the craziness and rantings of these right wing , self righteous, judgmental, hypocritical extremists.
To include O'Reilly, and Coulter.


j   February 20th, 2009 11:55 am ET

Larry
Could you please ask Limbaugh, Hannity or whoever one simple question?
Why?
Why would Obama want socialism, to get a palace or something.
Why would he want the stimulus to fail. Why would he want to help the middle class. What is in it for him. Just why?

I listen to these guys to try to understand their point of view because I used to be republican. Was I that cruel.

I find they are mean and they call the poor losers all the time and the rich winners whats up with that.
Just no common sense NO COMMON SENSE.

can someone help me out here.


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 11:56 am ET

The first amendment does not give one the right to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theatre when there is no fire. In short, our freedoms are not absolute; they are tempered by common-sense. Radicals have no common-sense, that is why they have a problem with the notion of "equal time."


Gordon J. Pratt   February 20th, 2009 11:59 am ET

Bring back equal time. As a retired broadcaster, I was in radio for over 30 years, equal time went the way of the buffalo when the then Reagan administration deregulated radio. Doing away with equal time made it possible for people like Rush to get on the air. What did Rush do in radio before he got lucky? Have Congress pass legislation restoring the equal time provision. By doing that, both conservative and liberal voices, as well as moderate, can be heard. There has to be an opposiong view to Rush "Windbag."


Nando   February 20th, 2009 12:13 pm ET

Not one single valid argument was brought up by AnneS., PietroS., Irene, or MichaelMc. in response to Mr. Limbaugh's points about government interfering with the right of the people to free speech. Those that see Mr. Limbaugh as a far-right extremist only do so because they are so far left or they have never heard his show. The substitute host that interviewed Coulter is an example of such a far-left leaning individual. The hostess views herself as mainstream. I dare say she does this on purpose to validate the ideas she expresses and to tear down (well try to, anyways) the ideas of Coulter and Limbaugh.
The 4 individuals mentioned at the beginning strike me as individuals with good intentions, but I wonder how they would feel about the lack of results from such good intentioned ideas. For example, a bake sale to help offset the nations debt sounds like a good idea, but the result of such a sale is a complete failure. These kind of do-gooders lack the vision to see the consequences down the road, and they are the type that will gladly and voluntarily give away their liberty and freedom in the name of good intentions. Good interntions which lack good results.
The people have more power in such cases than any "fairness" doctrine because they can more quickly "fix" these problems in the market of ideas. If Mr. Limbaugh's ideas were not received well by the people then he would have failed in his radio show format many years ago! I wonder why he is still on the air. Hmmm? I wonder why the hostess that interviewed Coulter is not more widely known. Hmmm? Liberty for the individuals within a rule of law is where its at, not socialism!


MikeJC in Maine   February 20th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

In my state there is only one powerful talk radio station. It calls itself the Voice of my state and it is utterly dominated by Rush Limbaugh, Howie Carr, Sen Hannity, Glen Beck all whom share the same hysterical point of view. It's very tiresome. Yeah, I can change the station, but I come from a major city that had many talk radio stations and I was completely addicted to listening to them whilst driving. Here in Maine, I can listed to one point of view only. I wish radio stations were forced to air both sides. I wish big blow-hard cowards like Rush had the gonads have people who disagree with him on.


strongwilled   February 20th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Liberals who are in such a hurry to censor anyone who does not agree with them better be careful or they many find themselves being the ones censored someday.


strongwilled   February 20th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Yes Mike in Maine. How American to force opinions down people's throats.


MikeJC in Maine   February 20th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

Right to free speech? Here in Maine I have the right to listen to the rightwing extremists, or turn off my radio. Not good enough. I agree with Gordan Pratt above; Bring back regulated radio and equal time!


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

The radical republicans are afraid of equal time, just as the Nazi propaganda machine feared any opposition. If the light of truth shines on the republican agenda, the people will turn against it instantly. It is impossible to brainwash the public if there is opposition and healthy debate.


MikeJC in Maine   February 20th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

You know what Strongwilled? There are more positions available then Right and Left. There is actually a spectrum in between. A healthy dialog might even bring the two extremes closer together. How could that be a bad thing? Here in Maine, you get one side only, and it's about as far right as you can go. It's tiresome.


Franky   February 20th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

For the record, the Dems are smart, in case you don't know but to answer your question...my boy could give a crap about you and what you do and you are right, the radio is something different and my boy is not gonna go that far to censor radios and all that, I mean, what is he, the FCC??

The Dems are just smarter than you guys...


gg   February 20th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

rush no that if somebody was to question his bs it would be the end of him


gg   February 20th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

he, d be left with wrighing for the kkk or a nazi news paper


debbie   February 20th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

Mr. Limbaugh it is UNAMERICAN to critize the American President. It is your right to question and voice your positions as long as it is done with respect. What is Rush thinking, what if these one sided republicans would of won, He belives they would of even tried to help the middle and poor class. Please,, Rush is like many of those one sided blind idiots that think only thre rich deserve tax cuts. Because Mr. Limbaugh makes alot of money he is scared like the others he might have to start paying the right amount of taxes he should instead of having all those tax cuts he seen for 8 years. Get over it Rush, the Democrats won.


Irene, TX   February 20th, 2009 2:00 pm ET

Nando, I respect your point of view. However, Mr. Limbaugh must understand one simple thing – in these tough times public in general is more vulnerable, upset, confused and, as a result, snappy, if you wish. There are many hotheads out there, and much, much more ignorant KKK/skinhead/racist morons than we all, liberals or conservatives, would want to see. He must understand that at times like that he should not be yelling "fail him" because those morons will not analyze "what's behind it", they might just take it literally, at face value and on to the streets. And when the streets will be ignited, wouldn't all the conservatives, together with the rest of us, miserable liberals, start yelling "where is the government and where is the police"? Or would you rather have all the neighbors exercising their right to bear arms on the same streets shooting left and right depending on their political and racial preferences? Big talk show brings in big responsibility. He is not indicted for anti-American conduct after saying "I hope he fails", isn't he? Try something like that under socialism. And he, of all people, claims that this country is lacking freedom of speech?
In my opinion, President Obama did nothing but exercised his own right of free speech and expressed his personal opinion about a specific talk show. RL was just trying to turn it around for his own benefit and blow it way out of proportion. He just added a few more drops of oil into the fire, he is good at it. A 20-M audience.. Hmmm... Somehow I imagine most of them looking like that remarkable face (and hairdo 🙂 "Oh, I can't trust him, he is an Arab..." Sorry, couldn't help it.
If, God forbid, this deepening crisis will bring us any unrests, in my mind I shall hold Mr. Limbaugh personally responsible.


j   February 20th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Irene
I think Nando is Limbaugh

"hmmm"

sounds just like him


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

Lets not forget that republicans are the same party that decry abortion but kills children by allowing HMO's to deny them health-care. They are the party that allows Pharmaceutical Companies to monetarily rape the American people mercilessly. Why? Not because they are worried about our freedoms, but because they have been paid handsomely by these companies. It is there own freedom to make money they are concerned with, not ours as a nation.


Ken, Phoenix, AZ   February 20th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

After radio censorship what next... book burning? Jailing of dissenters? I thought we beat the Nazis in the '40s and the Communists in the '80s.

Hindering any mode of free speech is cutting off the free flow of ideas. You might not agree with what people like Rush are saying, and you have the right to turn the dial, boycott the station, boycott the advertisers, write in with a counterpoint, start your own radio show, your own blog, your own newsletter, etc. etc.

You don't have the right to censor, and neither do the Congress or the Executive. President Obama has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Censorship is a violation of constitutional rights, and on the part of the President, would be treasonous.


Angus Argylle   February 20th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

Rush Limbaugh is a dangerous disgrace.

He is a bigoted extremist, a racist propagandist, methodologically identical to the most henious propagandists of Nazi and Stazi eras of the past .

By the methods he employs on his radio show we can be fairly safe in concluding that he cannot really believe in Liberty, let alone value it s advancement and preservation as something desirable, despite his belacous cries in its name.

His actions through his daily rants, invariably shun liberty each and every time he spews his untruths aimed with the intention of whipping up the irrational inpulses in his listeners in an effort to bringing them closer to his dispicable self.

He in an incessant conflater- correlation for cause, character with argument, and so draws unjustified conclusion after unjustified conclusion as he passes off his speculative drivel, suspiscious and twisted conjecture as though substantiated, unchallangeable fact ,the venom and hatred he chortles is packaged up for his listeners as the justified reaction to to the erroneous conclusion just reached.

We are not safe, sadly, from those, like him, who so blatantly abuse liberty and freedom of speach in particular, in this manner.

For Liberty to flourish demands responsibility in generous support, responsibility that he so willingly relinquishes each time he goes on the air misappropriating the truth.

His aims are to bewitch the listener, not mearly to express an opinion, his aims are to destroy virtue, to rob us of truth, and undermine liberty in order to engorge his insatiable hunger to have his bigotedness and prejudices affirmed by his listeners.

Limbaugh's plea to keep the airways free, thus, ring hollow, regardless of the undeniable merits of reducing the coercive powers of the state in this area and in all others.


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

Question: With the Fairness Doctrine who's going to decide what's liberal or conservative? What about anarchists and libertarians. What side are they on? And if someone is "really, really, liberal" do we balance that with someone who is "really, really conservative"? Who is going to be calling the shots on this? Are we going to be leaving this up to some government appointed committee?


Mike, Zephyrhills, FL   February 20th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

4 Million a year ole big mouth makes to keep himself in the news.

Makes money off his words and 20 million so called followers think he is right. When really all he does is sell his opinions even if he doesnt believe them himself. Its about Money to Rush!! just like Coulter,, O'Reilly, etc.... We dont get news anymore, we get pundits and so called experts. Glad I cant afford cable anymore!!


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

I'm one of the 20 million that listens to Rush and no I don't think he is right all the time. But I do appreciate that I live in a country that allows me to listen and make my own decision about what I hear....so far.


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 4:13 pm ET

Even though any individual with the smallest degree of intelligence writes these republican radicals off as self-promoting, buffoons that cater to the lowest common denominator and hold their audience with fear and ignorance; we must as a nation be ever watchful. THIS IS HOW THE NAZI PARTY BEGAN! Like any virus it should be set to rest with the greatest urgency before it spreads and infects anyone else. There shall be no freedom of speech for hate-mongers that mean to infect us with fatal diseases.


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 4:25 pm ET

I've been listening to Rush for a while now and guess I should probably get checked out for that "Fatal Virus" you're talking about. Do you know if I can get innoculated? Wait...my ears are falling off. I guess it's too late.


Jeff   February 20th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Is there anything the Obama adminstration will not still its nose into? Whatever happened to freedom? That communist, Hugo Chavez, must be laughing at the nonsense.


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 4:39 pm ET

Our freedoms as a nation are not absolute, nor have they ever been. How are freedom and an economic stimulus plan related? They are not, but republican rhetoric will appeal to the less intelligent individuals among us and have them believe they are.


lisa   February 20th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

I would be interested to know why the media has not picked up on this HR 45 Blair Holts Bill. The bill that threatens the 2nd amendment. This was tucked away int the stimulus bill.


gg   February 20th, 2009 4:56 pm ET

when you go to a docter it,s always good to get a second oppinion


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 4:57 pm ET

I guess I'm in that Republican "less intelligent indivuuals" catagory. I went through college and built my own business. And all that with an IQ of 5.


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

I guess I'm in that Republican "less intelligent indivuuals" catagory. I went through college and built my own business. And all that with an IQ of 5. I guess I should have gone on welfare like the smart people.


Pietro Sirianni   February 20th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

And again our less intelligent and racist republican friends automatically assume that since President Obama is half African there will be welfare spending as never seen before. More republican rhetoric.

Thank you "simonsays" for proving my point.

You maybe slow of wit, but you make an excellent pawn.


simonsays   February 20th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

I don't care if he's black, white ,pink ,or green. As long as he sends me part of that stimulus money he's my guy.


GAFuerst   February 20th, 2009 6:29 pm ET

Runt Limpbow, the fascist lout is lamenting about possible loss of his nasty ways and means to be mean and nasty? Wow, he even calls for fairness? He the Master of Moron and Mindless Mass Media? That has to be a sick and sordid joke!


MikeJC in Maine   February 20th, 2009 8:43 pm ET

Hey SimonSays the fairness doctrine worked just fine. It gave people like me who live in a "one talk radio station" state a chance to hear a different point of view.

But look, I'd be OK with only having Limbaugh, Hannity, Carr and Beck IF they included callers that weren't "ditto heads" and engaged them in a dialog. It wouldn't even have to be mandated here in Maine I'm sure, as Mainers are notorious for being independent thinkers (M. C. Smith, G. Mitchell, O. Snow, S. Collins) throughout American history, they would get plenty of calls challenging thier views. But that just doesn't happen. I've been here nearly ten years and there is only one perspective ever discussed. A steady rant.

The airwaves belong to the public. ALL of us. So if "Market Forces" aren't doing the job, and we're being bathed continuously in one sided hate talk, with no one ever disputing the bantor, we need to regain control of this public resource.


Judith   February 20th, 2009 8:54 pm ET

Rush L is worse then Don Imus and should be thrown off the radio.

He came forward and said he has more power in the Republican Party than the ones that we are paying in Washington.If this is so then the ones in Washington can go home without a salary or pension because their not needed.The Republican Party are moving all around like chickens with their heads cut off by having Rush flap his jaws and now Steeles who is black and another black person attacking President Obama.All these people better look in the mirror because what they are saying is exactly what they are looking at.

Why are none of them attacking the CEOs of Wall Street who paid themselves millions of $$.Our kids and grandchildren will be paying for that along with the War from Iraq.

All these people that attack President Obama what happen were they riding the bus with Bush alseep for 8 yrs and suddenly woke up.

You Republicans ought to get it in your heads it wasn't President Obama that put us in this mess,he inherited it from Bush and instead of fighting like a bunch of babies and trying to do everything to divide the Country we should be a United Nation under God.
We were tired of hearing McCain/Palin complaining about Obama at the time they were all running and we are more tired of it now seeing our Country in such a mess with so many losing jobs and homes.
Wake up and act like adults and show the World we are United because we're all in this together.

We can be thankful that we did vote for the right person to bring our ill Country ahead instead of making her sicker had McCain/Palin gotten in.

Time for you R-U-S-H L to take your retirement.


Judith   February 20th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

The Republican Party want two classes of people..The Rich and the Working Poor.

What do these Republicans think other Countries are thinking right now looking how they are so against President Obama but voted for Bush most of the time.
These people in Washington should get out in the real world and go to some of these amusement parks,talk to ones from other countries that for the 1st time could finally come here to the USA on vacation because our $$ have been so low.They will say they pity the American people when Bush was in office and felt Never should we have gone into Iraq.

The American people were tired of it and voted Honestly for the right person to bring America back to become Strong and Healthy again.It will take some time.She's like a child.If a parent lets a child get away with anything at age 2 then tries to change it at 9 it takes longer for that child to finally adapt to how she or he should be.
We got in this mess fast and now it will take some time.

Retire Rush L and take Ann with you along with Fox News and tell your Republican Party that the American people are tired of the fights between the parties in Washington.It's making our Country look bad!


Jaison   February 20th, 2009 11:33 pm ET

Are you all telling me this, if people stop listening Rush then what will he do??? maybe flipping burgers at Wendy's then there he might have conservative burgers. then you'll tell me stop going to at Wendy"s.


ed,vancouver canada   February 21st, 2009 3:13 am ET

The cure for the american economy is to ban talk radio and the newspapers.You see,when you do not know how bad things are,you go out and spend money.That keeps other people working.No matter what you do for a living,it relies on those people spending back so you can keep your job.What we have here is a big freeze and a scared
population.If there was an audit done of exactly how much money there is in the united states,it is more than needed to be debt free.
The problem is it is in too few hands,just like germany in the 40s.
The media is also owned by these same people.
That is the real fear behind 20 million viewers becoming unstable,especially when they own guns.
Crashing wall street could be a conspiracy,only the people with money get to buy in a depression.Someone who figures that out is dangerous,as they might spread the rumor.


Tom   February 21st, 2009 4:29 am ET

Here's the thing. If Howard Stern in all of his unbridled, perverse, and offensive filth can stay on the air. Why does anybody have a problem with Rush Limbaugh? If we are going to take some people off the air because a few persons do not like them then take them all off. Liberal hack jobs and Conservatives alike. Tell you what why don't we sensor everything. So no more music that offends anybody. No more television or movies that are even remotely close to a PG rating. Hell while we are at it let's stop the news papers and the news networks too, you know so long as they don't preach more of the Obama bull crap. When would it end. Very simply it wouldn't, and we would as I and a crap load of other conservatives screamed as soon as our fearless leader ( His Holiness Barak Hussein Obama), opened his mouth for the very first time become the Communist States of America.


j   February 21st, 2009 5:40 am ET

Tom you sound so angry.

I do not see anyone trying to sensor. Lets just be fair.

Its very dangerous for extremists who have microphones to spew their hate, their lies and their opinions on to others who may not have the minds to think for themselves. (ditto heads)

I think regulation might be the answer. Things are out of control.

You so called crap load of conservatives are so hypocritical. Anne Coulter wears her cross as she spews her hate.
You call our president sarcastically his holiness why?
Why do you have to use his name Hussein so sarcastically- so what Hussein is his name.

Limbaugh calls the poor losers and the rich winners why?
My daughter has to work extra hard in law school to keep her scholarship, only to become a defense attorney to help the poor. Top of the class she wont make much money. Is she a loser and why?

Limbaugh, Hannity and so many believers of them say that people in foreclosure do not play by the "rules" why? Do they know all those people?

Open up your mind Tom, be nice, maybe you wont be so angry dont just think that all conservatives are right all the time, are rich, are smart, are holy. Dont think all liberals want a hand out, dont work hard and dont believe in God. Its just not true

My ex husband went to the naval academy, was quite smart but had 0000000 common sense. Seeing that a lot these days.

Glad president Obama has both


karen nc   February 21st, 2009 6:15 am ET

this guy needs his pacifier and bottle, crying like a baby along with alot of others, i think it is terrible that they want the president to fail, if he fails the country fails, Bush and his buddies like RUsh had their complete control for 6 years and see what a mess was made. go back to your pills rush and leave the country to someone who is not brain fried..


j   February 21st, 2009 11:51 am ET

geeeez i spelled censor wrong

i guess thats what you get when you have a rich republican father who can send you to ASU to party through school

at least I dont think Palin is smart and Joe the plumber is the greatest


Bobbi Shadd   February 21st, 2009 11:54 am ET

Has anyone else noticed that Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, and Bill O'Reily seem to believe that if they talk faster and louder (scream and not let anyone get a word in) over the person that is interviewing them, that somehow this proves how correct their opinions are. Why were they not screaming to the top of their lungs when the President of their choice made the decision to bailout (GIVE) billions to the failing banks without any restrictions or over the massive debt created by a war (talk about pork) that made millions for a few good friends. Instead, they now hold hands and most likely pray together that our new President, the one that the people spoke very LOUDLY for, will fail so they can say I was right. What happened to the America that once had the ability to unite to over come obstacles despite our differences. Until we move beyond this childish behavior and partisan before country, we will contiue to struggle as a nation.


Tom   February 21st, 2009 11:55 pm ET

J,

You're right I am angry. I'm damned angry. I am angry at a lot of stuff. I'm angry that people seem to think that just because Rush, Hannity, and myself don't just nod along with Obama that we are spewing hate. No that isn't hate it is however a differing opinion. The Libs had their own attempted upstart in talk radio, it was called Air America ever heard of it? One of Al Gore's little pet projects to try to combat the Conservative "strangle hold" of the radio. Guess what it failed miserably.

I will call him His Holiness because everyone who supports him seems to worship the ground he walks on. He is not the second coming like the media would like him to be. I am far from a supporter of Obama or Bush. Both have done things which made me go what are you doing?. This one however is not my President. As far as I am concerned the country is without a leader for the next four years. I simply choose not to acknowledge him. Now as far as his name goes I find it funny that he screamed foul during the election when it was being used against him and then flaunted it in front of the nation when he was being sworn in. But I guess that is just more Liberal hypocrasy.

Now I aplode your daughter for going to law school. I have a cousin who is going the same route. If she is going to work as a defense attorney she will be, depending on how good she is, not just defending the poor masses. If she gets in with the right firm she could make a 6-7 digit income easily. Will she have to spend time in the trenches doing public defender work before she will get noticed? Absolutely but it is up to her what happens in her career. That is the whole point of what Limbaugh and Hannity are saying when they get on the radio. It isn't hate that they are spewing. It is discontent for the people of this country who feel that they are entitled to something, and towards the politicians who will give them anything they want to get their vote. Even if it means digging into my and your pocket to take it from us. I never see any politician anywhere tightening their own belt. Republican or Democrat. Both sides take from us. Seems to me the Dems take more though. If the Dems honestly thought we were spending to much money under Bush, why did we just drop over 800 billion dollars on a bunch of programs that aren't going to even touch the economy. His initial "stimulus package" was what 767 billion dollars. Why then did he need another 75 billion for mortgages. Seems to me the 767 billion should have been for the mortgages, that would have alleviated the strain on homeowners, and freed up some of their income to be spent back into the economy. No that would have been the whole Reaganomics again. Yeah that didn't pull us out of the 1982 recession or anything.

You speak of opening my mind. I ask you to listen to what is said. I have listened to both sides of the aisle. I encourage you now to listen to what they say with an open mind. Look beyond what you see as hate spewing and listen to the message. You might get suprised.

Now Bobbi, they did scream about the bailouts. Bush pushed them through anyway. The same way Obama pushed his little stimulus package through which has now raised the national debt higher than it was after World War 2. It was managable before then but not if he keeps spending like he is.


Tom   February 22nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Correction 787 billion dollars in the stimulus package.

I did the math. Do you realize that including the 700 billion that Bush put in, with these two bills. 7.31% of our GDP has been spent on bailouts. How much of that 1.562 Trillion dollars are you going to see? How much is going to actually come back to you?


Tom   February 22nd, 2009 2:00 am ET

Here's an idea of how much that actually is.

$1,562,000,000,000.

That is 1,562,000,000 X 1000.

If each dollar bill was stretched out one mile long and you placed them one end to another they would stretch from the Earth to the Sun 16,796 times (rounded up).
The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second. There are 1,609.344 meters in a mile. So it would take us traveling at the speed of light 139406.8 minutes or 2323.446 hours to travel the entire length of all the money.

The dollar bill is exactly 6.14 inches long. If we laid them end to end again with actual sizes they would stretch out 151,371,257 miles. Mars is only 141.5 million miles away. It would take us about 260 days give or take 10 days to get to Mars.


Eric   February 22nd, 2009 8:57 am ET

I beleive in our constitution and think that no one should be silenced by the hand of the government. WE the people will band together and protest the government if the even dare degrade our constitution. It's FREEdom of speech that soldiers from past gave their lives to protect, it's digusting that people even think it is possible to change that. People should move to another country if they don't like our constitution!!


GAFuerst   February 22nd, 2009 9:30 am ET

Response to Eric...et al:
Indeed, the Constitution is supposed to be mthe supreme law of the land. Regrettably, Mr. Bush at one point referred to it as "that damned scrap of paper," when being reminded of it. In fact he said: "Dont shove that damned scrap of paper in my face!" Now that's the kind of person Mrs. Limp-bow an others championed. They made themselves his champions and defenders. In other words, they shared his views and his attitude and his intentions. He and Mr. Cheney did everything they could to either circumvent or to degrade and diminish and undermine the Constitution. Now that says it all. At this point Mr. Limp-bow is trying to embrace the Constitution as a matter of mere convenience. Whenever it suits him and his conservative cohorts, they wrap themselves in the flag, parading as super-patriots, huffy, puffy, and pretending...and then they cry foul and wolf, whenever they feel the pinch of power which they had relished but lost. The Constitution is the Law of the Land, and that includes all the provisions of the Bill of Rights. Let the avowed conservatives display just a tat of humanity for a change, just a touch of human kindness and social responsibility, just a minute aspect of human decency, and matters might be different. As it is, they embrace selfishness and make that their motto and modus operandi.
They claim to be "fair and balanced" in their views and applied ideology. Alas, this is nothing but rhetoric. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and thier culinary offerings cause nothing but indigestion and nausea!


Irene, TX   February 22nd, 2009 3:36 pm ET

The problem with conservatives is that they are... too conservative. I'm under a strong impression that they are calling us back to the times of fully isolated America, puritan religious fanatism and Wild West rules like "an eye for an eye" and "hang'em high". Sorry for being so liberal, but I'm not too excited to go that far back in time. I'm afraid it's too late, and thank God it's too late. Unless conservatives would like to bring in some Taliban rules, like no Internet, no TV, no Euronews, nothing but Fox news... Excuse me? Red neck America seems to be scared to death after finding out that there is a world out there, the world we have to take into account, the world with its own opinion on things. Oh well... Maybe it's time to remove the globe of the US from our school classes. Tell our kids that the world is beautiful, and modern, and vibrant, and not everyone out there wants to invade us, and understanding it in no way prevents us from being patriots of our country. Why does US TV led and owned by far right conservative tycoons show only poor, problematic countries in the news? I'm afraid Americans believe there is nothing but poverty and hunger out there...

What American values are you afraid to lose? Which rights? To be born only to visit local WalMart, local church and local baseball field, never cross your state border, believe that Big Mac is the best food in the world and break you back paying off mortgage on an old house... Oh that American banker's dream. Whole live gets enclosed in that shabby frame dwelling structure, and the rest of the world passes America and Americans by. Is it worth it? This is not American freedom as I see it. The rest of the world would beg, kill or steal to have that wonderful visaless world. Theoretically, any American can jump on the plane on any given day and go see Louvre in Paris, St. Peter's Cathedral in Rome, Westminster Abbey in London. Can they afford it? Are they curious enough to even want to do it? No.... Like mushrooms in the dark, they don't care and they are afraid. Afraid that they won't find a decent food, that nobody speaks. . English, that everybody hates them... A couple of ladies here in Texas going to Italy and France for the first time were seriously worried if they'd be able to find a manicure place..You see, ignorant population is conservative politicians' greatest asset. I'm about to explode when I hear "we had bad intelligence" on WMD in Iraq. Ha... In a way it's true. The only intelligence required was the intelligence of a 10th-grader who studied history NOT in American public school. From the beginning the whole world knew the outcome America woke up to 4 years later. But look how self-righteous and judgmental we are about the rest of the Planet. Keep repeating words we do not even understand. Without seeing nothing with our own eyes. This is all conservatives' upbringing, and this is why I despise them so much and don't believe in any of their extreme fossilized values. As far as true values are concerned – love, honesty, patriotism, hard work etc. – I have know idea why conservatives usurped the authorship of these values. They have just learned to manipulate them and the people.


GAFuerst   February 22nd, 2009 4:35 pm ET

To Irene, TX:

Well said, well crafted, well put. Right on target!


vic muzyka   February 23rd, 2009 1:03 am ET

HEY you Free Americans, careful what you say, you could hear a black vehicle pull up to your house @ midnight and be hauled off to a Liberal Gulag real soon.


Tom   February 24th, 2009 2:41 am ET

Wow Irene congratulations. You have just graduated from the Liberal spin school of horse crap. Your little tyraid has not proven any point at all except to show how libs can talk in circles about absolutly nothing.

The Conservative values are just that...values. So some people worry about little things, like where they are going to find someone to do their nails, or if they will even like the food. Whoopdy doo. Who's place is it of yours to tell them they are wrong. American isolationism is in fact a pretty good idea. We as a nation have enough problems to contend with here, the last thing we need is to be out solving everyone elses too. Any idea how much money is sent overseas for foriegn aid? I would be willing to bet if we re-focused that money on our own country and fixing our own problems we would be a MUCH stronger nation for it. Your little comment about taking globes out of schools made me chuckle and the only thing I could think was why not? People like you have already taken away the right for the children to pray in school. Am I a religious zealot? No. I am a realist. Before you even get started on the seperation of church and state argument, I would encourage you to do your homework. That idea is just that, an idea, it was never placed in the Constitution. It was proposed to be put in, but was decided that it wasn't the place of the government to interfere with the religion of the people. Thus it would be a contradiction of the First Amendment. And those archaic "fossilized values" that you loath so much are the reason this country exists in the first place. If you don't like them, do everybody in this country a favor and move to France. And before you ask, yes I have been to the Louvre. I lived in Germany for three and a half years. Saw quite a bit of Europe. Wasn't that impressive. Looked like every other museum.

In closing, I would suggest that you climb down off of that Liberal soap box of hate spewing bigotry.


Irene, TX   February 27th, 2009 5:11 pm ET

Tom, I wish I knew where you saw hatred. On the contrary, it's all about love and a firm belief that Americans deserve better. What was good a century ago does not suffice any more. Have you heard of evolution? Foreign aid? Oh yes, America gives a lot, especially private citizens, proud, generous and compassionate Americans, but America also utilizes global resources to the fullest. How about billions of dollars in profit while paying locals $100 a month? BTW, should we build our own iron curtain and bring all these jobs back in the US and use only American resources, we should forget about Walmart prices and shopping sprees for all kinds of junk on a weekly basis. Labor cost makes a lion share of the production cost, and then you throw in work conditions in compliance with US codes and standards, employer's liability insurance and everything else, and T-shirts and coffee-makers, and just about everything else, if made in USA, will cost not 15 but 150 dollars. Why do you think good clothes (not from Asian street markets) costs so much in Germany? Say, 90 euros (~130 dollars) against 45 dollars for the comparable fabric quality in the US. Because it's made in Germany. I know many Americans who remodel their homes themselves because they can't afford hourly wages of American carpenter, American plumber, American electrician, American painter... Those homeowners do not hate America, believe me.


Irene, TX   February 27th, 2009 6:22 pm ET

Two more things for you, Tom
One – I am an American and no one tells me where to move or not to move. And why France? I like Northern Italy better 🙂
Two – Like any other museum... OK, maybe you are not into arts. I know for a fact that millions of children who lived under Stalin, Mao, Castro etc. dreamed to visit any of these "any other museums" like Prado or Uffizzi but never had a chance to fulfill that dream. Does it not bother you that generations of American kids are also in fact deprived of that chance, even though for entirely different reasons? Do you really think they miss nothing?


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