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February 19, 2009

Octomom facing foreclosure of her home

Posted: 08:10 AM ET

The California home where Nadya Suleman plans to raise her 14 children is at risk of foreclosure, CNN affiliate KTLA reported Wednesday.

Los Angeles County property records show a notice of mortgage default was filed Feb. 9 against the home of Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, the station reported.

Angela Suleman is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments and the three-bedroom house could be sold at an auction beginning May 5, documents say.

Suleman has said that she was raising her six children in her mother's home and planned to raise her newborn octuplets there.

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Carol H   February 19th, 2009 9:06 am ET

Larry King Live....with Anne Coulter
a comment from a Canadian, who Anne dismissed as a country that the US should not have to be on the same continent with. Well Anne most Canadians , and conseratively speaking, most of the free world,agreed that we felt the same way about you and your previous Administration. What are your feeling towards Rush L. as your next leader, he has just the right amount of absolute Hypocritical fanatic BS leadership qualities that the Rep. look for, and How would you justify the New York (rep leaning rag) ..printing the most dispictable "carton" of Obama Chimp and the Stimulus program. It would make the KKK blush. Shame on them, and hopefully it will not be business as usual in their board rooms. Business as usual for the GOP? I can't speak for all Canadians but the feeling North of the 49th is pretty much that Bush, Cheney and company got you in the predicament you're in. The good ole boys have used the first BAIL out, with no strings attached to help friends and institutions favorably leaning to the rep. , now let the Dems. see how they might straighten things up. Live long and prosper Annie...hope your legs and hair hold out. Getting older is such a downer and some of us just can't handle it well and become bitter and twisted...shows on our more angular faces. Carol.


Carol H   February 19th, 2009 9:06 am ET

Larry King Live....with Anne Coulter
a comment from a Canadian, who Anne dismissed as a country that the US should not have to be on the same continent with. Well Anne most Canadians , and conseratively speaking, most of the free world,agreed that we felt the same way about you and your previous Administration. What are your feeling towards Rush L. as your next leader, he has just the right amount of absolute Hypocritical fanatic BS leadership qualities that the Rep. look for, and How would you justify the New York (rep leaning rag) ..printing the most dispictable "carton" of Obama Chimp and the Stimulus program. It would make the KKK blush. Shame on them, and hopefully it will not be business as usual in their board rooms. Business as usual for the GOP? I can't speak for all Canadians but the feeling North of the 49th is pretty much that Bush, Cheney and company got you in the predicament you're in. The good ole boys have used the first BAIL out, with no strings attached to help friends and institutions favorably leaning to the rep. , now let the Dems. see how they might straighten things up. Live long and prosper Annie...hope your legs and hair hold out. Getting older is such a downer and some of us just can't handle it well and become bitter and twisted...shows on our more angular faces. Carol.


sean brizendine   February 19th, 2009 11:08 am ET

larry i think that this octuplet situation is tacky but i don't want them to loose they're home.
"sean in santa rosa"


Mertyl S   February 19th, 2009 11:22 am ET

This whole "octo-mom" story leaves me with more questions than answers. Who is paying the premiums for the Kaiser insurance? How did she get the money to pay for the original IVF and subsequent Embryo transfers, neither of which are covered by insurance? A basic IVF procedure, which she had to have had at some point to harvest the eggs, costs $10, 000. Then the freezing and storage of embryos for the past 6 years would have cost a minimum of $600 /year. Each subsequent embryo transfer would cost at least $2000 (I'm underestimating). Lastly, I heard somewhere that she had 6 embryos implanted each time. That would mean that during the original IVF procedure she had 36 viable embryos. Even for a 27 year old, that is fairly high.
I don't think we are being told the whole story. In the end, we taxpayers will be paying for this woman's and her doctor's poor decisions for the rest of these children's lives.


Jay   February 19th, 2009 2:12 pm ET

First, the house being foreclosed on is the Grandmothers house who was kind enuff to allow her daughter and kids to live there. I can imagine any one foreclosing that house is going to get quite an amount of press time, good or bad or both. I am all for those who embrace women's right to choose to embrace this family. Or is that a bit much to ask for? Any money this woman gets from books, interviews whatever should start to pay off the hospital bill then to raising the kids then to paying back her food stamps. At least two states, Florida & NY will recoup welfare payments from Lottery winners, up to 50% on any winnings over $600. This principle stands here too. The public tax dollars put out on behalf of her family should be recouped if she makes money from this.


Rose   February 19th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

The Octomom got $165,000 as an insurance settlement for a back injury sustained while working. It was paid out at about $30,000+ per year, over 5 years. She must have used these funds for IVF procedures as well as about $30,000 in plastic surgery. Her mother stated on TV that she never saw any of those funds go toward food or shelter. Her mother is now bankrupt.

Rather than having 1 or 2 children and using the balance of the money to support themselves, she went looney-tunes and had 6 + 8 kids. It's disgusting that she spent so much money on her face alone – something else she lied about, claiming she had no plastic surgery (before and after photos easily confirm this).

It's also ridiculous that she claimed to have a back injury, yet had several pregnancies in a row – with an injured back. It's unlikely that her back was as "hurt" as she claimed. The Octomom is a great manipulator of the hand-out system, whether it be insurance, food stamps, student loans, public assistance or bankrupting her parents. She seems to excel at everything except independently supporting her family.


elsa   February 19th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

Recently I've heard ,as I feared ,that we, the taxpayers, would be footing the bill for bringing up the octuplets plus their other siblings.
A doctor who implants embryos in a woman does, or should do, a thorough mental and physical exam. Evidently something drove this doctor to refuse to follow the guidelines. Personally I think he or she should be penalized and forced to pay the tab not the taxpayers.The people of the US vs "Doctor X".


amb   February 19th, 2009 5:31 pm ET

Octomom was just seen at Neiman Marcus purchasing some gloss lipstick for $14.00. I won't ever pay $14.00 for lipstick – I'm frugal and even use coupons. And to think she's on welfare and spends that much on lipstick – .perhaps my taxe money.


Mike, Zephyrhills, FL   February 19th, 2009 8:41 pm ET

TY Pennington,

Go Build this lady a house!! Great Publicity and write offs for your sponsors!!

Its the right thing to do!!


Jeff   February 19th, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Octomom needs to get Obama's blackberry phone number and call him for a taxpayer funded welfare bailout to save her mom's house. Because nobody is allowed to feel any pain or have any personal responsibility in this country anymore. Nobody can be allowed to fail. And, no, we are not "our brother's keeper". Larry, you can volunteer to write a check to all those in foreclosure. I will use my last moments of freedom to decide against paying for anyone's poor choices in life. Sorry.


Jerilynn   February 19th, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Amen, Jeff. Couldn't have said it better.

–Jerilynn


Leslie, LA   February 19th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Her poor kids are DOOMED, she spends money on herself and very selfish. It's amazing she has money for her fake nails, lip gloss at MAC while her mother is losing her home.

This "person" needs to be placed into a mental hospital.


Noel   February 19th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I would really like to know who has supported the octomon in her IVF treatments. This is a really expensive process and obviously someone is footing the bill. Does anyone have any information?


Diana   February 19th, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Enough already ! It is obvious even to a layperson that the Octomom needs urgent psychiatric care. The best thing for the children without a doubt is to be adopted by a loving family or families who can care for them and give them a chance. The public should not " bail out" Nadia Suleman... it's not in the best interest of her children.


V. Hamilton   February 19th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Am I the only one who thinks that Nadia watched one too many episodes of the Duggars. It would appear that with her supposed plastic surgeries etc. she had the master plan to be the star of another show depicting families with multitudes of children! Don't think it's going to happen Nadia!


PamelaAnn   February 19th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I am very surprised that Social Services have not intervened in this case as yet. It is pretty clear that Ms. Suleman is incapable of providing the basic necessities of life these children require. Now it looks like she will soon have nowhere to live if her mother loses her home. This is a classic case of child neglect waiting to rear its ugly head.


almon dean   February 19th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

how wonderful that these "angels" are offering to bail out a self-medicated (via plastic suregery) mentally ill woman who has made such terrible selfish choices leading to a 14 new wards for the state of california to raise. this bail out is just what this country needs to forget for a second all the other bail outs with worthless money going on. bless their sanctimonious short sighted evangelical religious fundamental maniac selves. hugs, ladies. jesus needs you in heaven now. :* 🙂


Bigg Dogg   February 19th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Why isn't there more opposition to the Dr. that impregnated the woman rather? He (or she) is supposed to be the intelligent member of our society


Jane Shephard   February 19th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Maybe I am missing something, but how does Octo find the time and money for her pretty artificial nails with the French manicure?


stephanie   February 19th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

The doctor was clearly irresponsible, should have his license revoked, and be forced to assume the cost of raising those 8 babies.


Jo DiMarzio   February 19th, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Why isn't anyone mentioning the doctor in this situation? Doesn't he bear some responsibility as well? He knew she had six children and he knew her financial situation? What was HE thinking???


Xoticbrandi   February 19th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

This OctoMom phenomina is incredibly disgusting. She has deliberately gone and had herself inseminated. What happens the next time she feels like doing this? Do we go and help her with those too. I think she's a total disgrace. She made some remark about not wanting to exploit her children. What the hell else is she doing? If she and her parents now are in crisis and on the way to foreclosure, she must have known all along. It's not right for the public to be involved in their lives. She is so vile as far as I'm concerned and she will do it again. I totally believe she will do this again. I also think that she is trying to get as much attention as she can. Her mental state is totally screwed up. She makes me sick when I look at her. She has her nails perfectly manicured and that costs a lot of money. What is she doing to get those nails done and the perfect face lifts, botox or whatever.

She has 3 children with disabilities. The 8 new babies are at risk and may have disabilities also. She will get money for them too. But is she really spending it on them? NO!

I am not happy with this situation. I don't think she should have any more children. I think she needs intense therapy and also parenting classes. Her parents are burdened and she's burdoning everyone around her. What the heck are those children going to learn as they get older?

Mommy did it. So I should do it too. It's like that Muncheuser's disease (I can't spell it) but you know what I mean. I think this is incredibly irresponsible and she is awefully unstable. Someone
(the law community) should step in.

She will do it again when those kids get older. I do not believe this is a good situation for these children. I have 7 grandchildren. Two of which were born prematurely. They weighed 1 1/2 lbs and 2lbs
respectively. There are 3 others who have disabilities. I am there to support them in anyway I can. But their mothers and fathers have to do the work. I'm not going to do it for them. We (as a society) should not take responsibility for these children. It's not fair to us, nor is it fair to her children.

I just pray to God she doesn't go out here and do it again. But I warn you, she will.


Jo DiMarzio   February 19th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Another thing I don't hearing anyone talking about is the fact of the LONG-TERM health issues that these poor babies have to look forward to.


Marsha   February 19th, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I am not a professional, but in my opinion, Nadya Suleman appears to be emotionally unstable. She is not competant to raise or provide for her children and did not appear to receive the proper evaluation or counsel before she was "impregnated" with the embryos that produced eight children. I think the doctor who assisted her in becoming pregnant should be made to pay for these children and provide for their care. The State of California should pursue him in the same way that they do "deadbeat dads", who abandon their kids. He should be made to be accountable for his irresponsible actions


Rhonda   February 19th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

You go Jeff! I'm starting wonder why I'm struggling to pay my mortgage, and other bills. I have good credit but fight and do without to keep it, but it seem everyone who doesn't take personal responsibility for their actions are doing just fine and not stressing about tomorrow. If you noticed the Octomom had her nails done, nose job and lips that weigh more than some of the babies! I wish I could afford my nails done! She stated she is not a selfish person.....having fourteen children is not selfish? There is no way a women with 14 children under the age seven can take care of 14 children. She's nuts. She is very selfish. She is putting a burden on her parents, tax paying citizens, and the medical community.


Jacqueline Bell   February 19th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

The Octomom has created a nightmare for herself that she is going to have to live with regardless of the help she gets from the state, US or World. It's extremely hard to raise multiple children as a single parent. I'm a single mom of seven, with the seventh coming after I divorced and had a sterilization procedure done. Although I LOVE children myself, I'm just waiting for the seventh to grow up and graduate college so that I can have the nervous breakdown that I've felt I'm going to have if I don't succeed. Currently four are in College and I still feel like I'm failing at this single parenting thing. It's EXHAUSTING. OctoMom is going to need a MIRACLE and Prayers. PLEASE lookout for the CHILDREN regardless of them having a careless mom.


Julie   February 19th, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Well, if she doesn't get some kind of book deal she and her children can live off the new expanded welfare benefits just passed in the "stimulus" bill that we will be paying 63 percent interest on for about 50 years....


Philip Johnson   February 19th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Nadia is a plague on society and a detrement to her children.
She is counting on being bailed out by everyone and everything.
Angels in Waiting has no business providing any kind of care or support unless there is the condition that these innocent byproducts of this recklous behavior, be adopted by loving families.
She (Nadia), needs to be put under observation and possibly put away. At the very least needs to be monitored so this never happens again.


sally az   February 19th, 2009 9:57 pm ET

my question to nadia would be why werent 6 enough? i dont care how much you love your children raising them is not easy at all i had 4 spread out and i dont know how i did it cause like many say you never stop growing up i know i still am my baby is 19 i thank God i did it but spreading that 14 ways at one time she is fooling herself and someone needs to tell her there are many graduated college students looking for work, my daughters have degrees and they continue to better themselves, how does this woman think that when/if she finishes college she will find a job that will gain her the money she thinks she'll make, does she not know how hard it is to be a working mom and who would hire her? it dumbfounding, unreal she is allusioned..................


Jo DiMarzio   February 19th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Regarding the Duggars with 18 children, I don't see how you can possibly compare the Octomom to the Duggars. The Duggars have a completely different situation. No comparison whatsoever. Octomom is living in some sort of fantasy. The Duggars are a real, live, loving intelligent family.


Trina in Potomac Falls, Va   February 19th, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Ok I don't get it. It is our responsibility to take care of these children? There have been children in need all over the country and long before Octomom came along.

If we help her children then we need to help the other millions of children living below the poverty line, in foster care, in orphanages? What makes HER children any more special than other child(ren) who have a parent(s) that can't afford to care for them?


Tim   February 19th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I have been watching the public feeding frenzy in condemning Nadya Sulieman. Since when in this country has it been required to have a public consensus on the number of children you can have. Maybe everyone wants the policies implemented in China – one child only.

From what I can see, this country is more in favor of spending money for a pointless war in Iraq than helping a person who has more children than what is thought to be appropriate. This country claims to be religious but what religion supports the hatred toward this mother and her children.


Robert From Herndon VA   February 19th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Octomom, this woman is obviously mentally unstable and serves as the perfect example as to why California is bankrupt. The media has done a great job this week at capturing Nadya out shopping for MAC cosmetics at Nordstrom’s, relaxying at the SPA getting her nails done and dining out and today looking at 1mil + homes.. What decent mother would be out on shopping sprees when she is about to lose her house and she has 6 children at home, 3 of which disabled and 8 in the hospital, why is she not at the hospital with these babies? I’m sure the 20,000 plus state employees who are about to be laid off in California would love to spend some time with her out on her tax payer paid shopping sprees.. Outrageous!


deb   February 19th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

This woman has been using the system for sometime now, As the others have said she has her nails, nose and lips done and maybe even cheek implants with monies that should have been spent on saving a home. I really think she thought she would get money, car and a house if she had these babies. People in this country are tired of supporting people that do not put forth the effort to support themselves. What is it going to take for the Government to understand this? She should not be allowed to take any of these children home, she cares more for herself than these babies...


Ruth   February 19th, 2009 11:01 pm ET

Well I need to say this I have a child that was ill most of his childhood. Not one moment was my son left alone in the hospital. If I was not there one of the family was. I know getting out of the hospital is important, I would go and take a shower. I even slept in the hospital to be with my son. I do not understand this woman (And I use that term loosely) 14 children I have 3 and it is hard enough on me. I was a single mother for a very long time and honestly it was hard.

As a taxpayer in Cali I have to say this should be investigated, why would she be getting food stamps if she was getting 30,000 a year from a settlement on top of student loans? And on that note how is she living on students loans when she is not going to school?
I look at this woman and feel nothing but anger. She is using the system and lets face it, they say they did not but NBC paid. Otherwise the house would not be in the picture. Save your moms house lady.


Carson Epes Steinbauer   February 19th, 2009 11:17 pm ET

The press is spending entirely too much time on this subject and is engaging in a toxic campaign that will in all probability cause grave emotional harm to these 8 children for years to come. I can't comprehend why a single woman, who has taken steps to educate herself and seems from what I can tell to be very well spoken and can speak the King's English, is the focus of an international media maelstrom and is under fire with such hatred from people who don't even know her nor who have ever met her She is a real person, and yes, she does now have 14 children, which will prove to be a huge burden for her and her parents to bear, but will quite likely too provide many challenges and joys along the way. It is likely that she will be, if not already, on welfare to help support these children.

So what's new, America? Have you looked at the papers lately and the unemployment statistics? Have you looked at the statistics of the number of unwed mothers on welfare, with no education, broken families, multiple, no name absent partners who are the fathers of their many children ....fathers who aren't fathers at all and who intentionally evade child support and any form of parental responsibility? Has anyone considered that maybe "OctoMom" is trying to do it all, fulfill a dream, love and support her 14 children, and at the same time try and finish her education to better her status in life and set a good example for her kids? And she lives with her parents – is that such a bad thing? Or should she be living with her "baby daddy", in subsidized housing, a car, or a crack house?

I guess for the Liberal Press, it's perfectly ok if you are John Edwards, or Mick Jagger, or Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. As long as you are a celebrity, have a political career, contribute huge sums of money to the Liberal Machine or are just downright "cool" and can play a guitar, then that's ok. But, f you are just a face in the crowd (and worse, a face that has even a slight resemblance of a celebrity and therefore suspect of plastic surgery – gasp! ... no one in Hollywood has plastic surgery! ), and you have multiple children, choose not to abort them or give them up for adoption, but raise them with your parents in an actual home, your a freak and a loser that deserves international crucifixion and burning at the stake liket the witches in Salem in times past.

How sad. How sad for OctoMom, but even more so, how sad for her 14 children who from the very moment of birth have been under relentless scrutiny and abusive attack. How sad for our country and how hateful and out of touch and judgmental we have all become in our nation – one Nation Under All.

One piece of advice for you, Liberal America: for those of you that live in glass houses, you would be best served by not throwing stones.

I have seen "OctoMom" interviewed on TV, and her statement is that she has always wanted to have many children, that that has been her goal in life. We all have pipedreams and make mistakes and no one is immune from exercising bad judgment. So why is it, that a young woman who appears to look like Angelina Jolie (but no proof that she has had plastic surgery), is ostracized and called OctoMom and nailed to the cross for having 14 children as a single mother? There are many families that have had 14 children or more – who doesn't know of a Catholic family that has a brood of children? I'm sure many families, Catholic or otherwise, have lost their homes in hard times and have had many mouths to feed, and yet they make it work and make ends meet.

What's worse – let's look back at John Edwards, who had it all – ariking looks, education that most people in this country can't afford, money, a law degree, a loving, faithful and supportive wife, beautiful children, and a powerful and dazzling political future.... and yet, he sires a child out of wedlock, doesn't acknowledge the child or admit to paternity, lies to his wife, his family, and his country; shuns the mother of his child, and conspires with a wealthy, out of state lawyer and fellow political supporter to funnel hush money to exile a woman who once had a career and a future, someone who loved him and bore his child – a child that now remains without a name and a face, and a father to love it. Where is this mother and child living now? And why doesn't the press care?

Or let's look at those that live off of welfare checks from the government, who have child after child after child, abortions here and there, consume illegal drugs and / or alcohol while pregnant, smoke cigarettes, and feel that it is ok to steal from others and better yet, politicians who extort illegally for fiinancial gain, hire the same hookers for sex that they prosecute to gain public approval, and those lawmakers on Capitol Hill that don't pay taxes and then when selected to a cabinet post claim "I didn't know that gifts and a limo service" consitituted income?

Come on. It's time for the rest of us to gather up stones and bring the glass houses down along with those that reside in them. Let's start with CNN and Capitol Hill.

Leave OctoMom, her 8 infants, 6 other children, and family alone. Look in the mirror instead and determine what decisions you made that weren't necessarily perfect. Look in the mirror and see what you can do to make this world a better place, and our Country as admirable and financially powerful as it once was.


Cathi Deal   February 19th, 2009 11:19 pm ET

Just tell Octomom and her poor mother to contact TLC. They've just put Jon & Kate (plus their 8) in a 1.3M mansion...then they can contact Lane to furnish it. Nothing old for our Katie – she sold it all at a garage sale. Did she turn around and donate the proceeds to charity or to the Hershey Medical Center where she gave birth to HER sextuplets? I think not!

Octomom's mother needs to watch out. If her daughter follows Kate's lead, she'll be out of her life for good and then can be just another statistic for having lost her house in this economy.

Three cheers for your guests tonite Larry. I don't necessarily agree with the Duggar's religious views, but they're doing a great job taking care of their own kids on their own dime. No handouts there.


Heidi   February 19th, 2009 11:34 pm ET

I want to know why Nadya is out looking at expensive homes when the home she is living in is getting foreclosed. Also, why doesn't she feel she has an obligation to pay the hospital bills she voluntarily accrued instead of the state of California. I don't live in that state, but I feel that is theft. If she has money to do her nails and buy an expensive home, she should first pay down her debt. ALl of the rest of society ahs to plan the size of their family according to what they can comfortably afford and responsibly provide for. Married couples use contraception when they want to stop having babies. They may love them and WANT more, but know they cannot provide financially. You cannot have everything you want. ANd she goes out and purposely gets inseminated and expects everyone else to provide for her family. What makes her so far superioor to us normal folk?


Joanie R   February 20th, 2009 12:08 am ET

Larry, How can you and these other networks promote this freeloading octomom on your shows. The way thereconomy is right now, people are struggling to keep thier homes, and you all ask us to sent this lazy pig of a mother money?? Why, so she can live in a million dollar home? Larry, she used up $167,000 on "HERSELF", meanwhile her parents are losing thier home that she lived in for free. She should be investigated. She's had plastic surgery, gets manicures weekly, without having to work AT ALL. Who's paying for the hospital bill? She had no business implanting 8 fetuses knowing SHE had no way of supporting them, but I guess she knew Fools like you would glamorize her lifestyle.Disgraceful


Pissed off Mom   February 20th, 2009 12:25 am ET

Hello Larry,
We the people have constitutional rights. Because of these? we are forgetting our innocent children who suffers the most by a stupid and in humane decisions in our lives. We the people are worrying about our taxes and I think if this Selfish Mom get away of what she have done and including the sperm donor... we should be worrying about our goverment laws and constitutional (again) rights and our kids future.
I even went to these seminars Vitro or what ever you calls those ( I thought they are such a miracle to some people who actually want to have a child (not children) and those Doctors should be banned and get their liscense taken away. I think this Selfish Mom need to go to jail or some phyco jail far away from her kids. She will end up killing these kids and reason out that her believes or some BS told her to do so. This children have the rights too... Playing with Human is really, really not cool (can't curse!).
I love kids that my husband and I give 4 of those kids love,home,and security. Yes! they are somebody elses.They belong to very selfish mom like her who doesn't even care about the children. That when they grow up they want to know who are their fathers.A mom who can not support them. We have to deal with all the hurts and frustrations and dissapointment that their parents have done(they all are unknown dads by the way). I hope that we all can do something about it... this is not really funny and it breaks my heart everytime I see children that didn't really get the love that they desserve from the beginning. These doctors needs to be shut down or something for what they did... all they care are money and media. 14 lives are way too many to just ignore.Pardon my spellings or grammars... I am so upset that I have to read this again. I am just hoping that there are lawmakers out there who see the light and not just ignore this situation. God Bless America!


CA Kinder teacher   February 20th, 2009 12:37 am ET

The reason for the angry backlash against this woman is that she is the personification of all that is wrong with "the system" - she gets disability payments for a bad back, yet this same bad back managed to support a pregnant belly the size of the Hindenberg....she receives food stamps for the 6 kids she already has, lives with her parents in a 3-bedroom home that couldn't possibly house 14 children and 3 adults (although I guess that's now a moot point, since the house is in foreclosure) and depends on her parents for both housing and child care, yet she then goes out and deliberately impregnates herself with 6 more embryos.....no husband/partner, no job, and no clue!!!! Then she is photographed out getting her nails done and shopping for expensive brand-name makeup, while her octuplets are in the hospital and we can only assume that her other 6 kids are being cared for by the grandparents. This woman doesn't love children, she loves the feeling of fulfillment and accomplishment she gets from being pregnant and giving birth - I sincerely hope CPS is keeping a close eye on this situation,


Lisa In Denver   February 20th, 2009 12:42 am ET

I understand the anger at this woman, but not only do her 14 children need someone to intervene on their behalf, but someone needs to help this woman. There is clearly something seriously wrong with her and to simply shame and revile her will not help. How would the State of California intervene in the situation of an unknown single mother with no income and this many children?


Lucio Vasquez   February 20th, 2009 12:43 am ET

Why is it that we are so concerned with an American mother and her 14 children? When all around our country we are supporting millions of illegal mothers and their children. Shouldn't we be bringing this issue up again and again? Especially in the condition our economy is in. We are certainly not in the postition to be caring their children. Where does are responsibility stop?


mk from kansas   February 20th, 2009 12:50 am ET

HOW ON EARTH DID SHE AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE PROCESS OF HAVING THE EGGS IMPLANTED WITH ALL THE KIDS SHE ALREADY HAD AND HERE'S AN IDEA SINCE THE DOCTOR THAT HELPED HER WITH THE PROCEDURE DIDN'T STOP TO THINK ABOUT THE POSSIBLITY OF ALL 8 CHILDREN SURVIVING AND THE EXPENSE IF EVEN LESS SURVIVED, HOW ABOUT HE PAY FOR SOME OF THE COSTS TO NOW RAISE THEM. IF THIS WAS SOME SORT OF MEDICAL EXPERIMENT FOR HIM NOW HE SHOULD HELP DEFRAY THE COST. HE HAD TO KNOW HER CURRENT SITUATION OF HOW MANY CHILDREN SHE ALREADY HAD AND MARITAL & FINANCIAL STATUS..........WHAT ABOUT HIM STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE OF RESPONSIBILTY....


Maria   February 20th, 2009 1:02 am ET

Here comes the amblance chasing Gloria Allred...what gives her the right to stick her nose in the Octomom” bussiness.
The Octomom should file charges with the California Bar Association against Attorney Gloria Allred.


kim   February 20th, 2009 1:06 am ET

I'm also angry with the "OctoDoc!!" He should have refused to perform the procedure. That would have been the responsible thing to do and totally within his rights. I'm annoyed at all the anger toward the mother. She is obviously troubled and had she had proper medical care, she would not be in this situation today. He violated the standards of care by transferring so many embryos at one time. I predict a malpractice lawsuit and he should be forced to pay for childcare.


Karen in California   February 20th, 2009 1:10 am ET

I am absolutely appalled by the outrageous comments by Joy Behar when she agrees with the good "doctor" Ludwig that a woman should only have enough children as "she has breasts"!!! And then Behar adds if a woman's husband is "dependant", then the woman should only have one child! Give me a flippin' break! She is an embarrasment to women and should never be allowed to host your show again, Larry. My husband and I are regular viewers and consider ourselves very mid-stream and open-minded, but tonight's show was over the top. Between the obnoxious comments to Ann Coulter (not that we concur at all with everything that Ms. Coulter has to say) to the above comments regarding the octuptlets segment, we are beyond outraged! And, we absolutely do not condone Ms. Suleman's conduct and feel that her doctor should be prosecuted and that the children should be placed in loving adoptive homes, but to fuel the fire by Behar and Ludwig making such devisive comments is not worthy of your show and I'm am sure most of your viewers were equally offended by this display of unprofessional conduct. Get rid of Behar on your show and get rid of the entire cast of "The View"... Loyal viewers deserve better, Larry!


Jaison   February 20th, 2009 1:12 am ET

Larry!

Who give $hit about this lady.....Everyday lots of family has some kind of problem in there lives. but it does not mean you have to put everything in lime light. so CNN please lay off about this lady. and by the way it's her problem and let her deal with it.


not too happy   February 20th, 2009 1:33 am ET

I could go on a rant here...and I just might! AFTER I got married we discovered that I would need fertility treatment in order to have a family. I used my pre-marital savings for the tests and treatments and ended up with one beautiful and healthy son. The cost? A "mere" $27,000. I started a small business that was pretty successful and allowed me to have my son with me – it also allowed me to SAVE enough for a 25% down payment on our first home. It was a "fixer upper," but we made a nice, not huge, profit and we were able to buy a bigger house – but, another fixer upper. Again, sold it and bought the last one and once again, completely restored the property. Oh, we paid the house off in 5 years because we were able to make the payments without struggling and maxing out credit cards to live. I was able to send my son to private schools (yep, I paid for that too – no scholarships or financial aid). I went back to school (oh, silly me – I paid for that too), finished my degree, and unfortunately ended up divorced. BUT...my son wanted to go to college and I (not his dad) have paid for every semester at a great state school, purchased his books, and helped with groceries and rent when he was in a bind. He will graduate in May, and I couldn't be any prouder. In the fall I was called in and told my job had been abolished. My concerns were pretty minimal – could I pay for his last year of college and how on earth was I going to get a job at my age? Well, I still don't have a job, but I'm always hopeful. My son is working a few more hours and enjoying less "benefits" from mom, BUT I'm able to make my house payment (so no bailout help for me), pay my COBRA – $400.00 a month, and buy an occasional cup of coffee at Starbucks – all on my unemployment check. I haven't had to dispose of my dog and cats, my car is paid off, and I'm not taking anything from anyone.
I'm not bragging – I've just worked my butt off for a lot of years because I believe in hard work and the benefits I receive from that.
I'm really having trouble with the Octomom thing – and I'm sick of having to flip channels to get away from her self indulgence. Tonight's news showed her driving through McDonald's buying Happy Meals! Yesterday she had to have help loading her purchases into her car from a Target employee. Again, tonight her father made a trip to Target! Her false nails, the obvious cosmetic surgery, the comments her mother's made – all sicken me. If Protective Services doesn't come in and do something, there's a problem. This "Angel" group – WHAT are they thinking? And the best for last, Gloria Allred has even gotten involved in this. What is wrong with this picture?
Oh...and the Duggers. They're nothing more than religion spouting rabbits.


Matt   February 20th, 2009 1:45 am ET

And the irony here? That she says she's going to go to school...FOR PSYCHOLOGY


Jaison   February 20th, 2009 1:51 am ET

Larry!!!

I don't understand whats wrong with you people now a days?? i mean you all medias. seems like you people have more interest in Sarah Palin or joe the plumber or this lady with 8 kids or Larry king sharing spa with Jim carrey. please larry follow up with good stuff. so people can learn something from it. i think now a days media it's a joke.
i don't see any professionalizm in media. you people are going backward.


angry   February 20th, 2009 1:54 am ET

I need to disagree with pretty much everything that carson epes steinbauer had to say in their comment…. It was pretty much rediculous. First of all it doesn’t matter if she can speak english well or not .. that does not always make you smart.. book smart and common sense are to completely different things. And yes she is a real person and she does have 14 real children and I honestly wish it were just a funny sitcom playing on NBC.
Now I do agree with you on the statistics about people on welfare and unwed mothers who have multiple children. I have been upset about the welfare system for a good couple of months and what better time for this issue to come up than now for me b/c I am now urged to voice my opinion instead of people looking down on me b/c I am trying to seek welfare. See I was on welfare for about 10 months while pregnant and on maternaty leave. Me and the father worked things out and when we moved in together I called the welfare office and had to argue with them to end my benefits.. it was as if they were sure that there was no way that someone could actually get out of poverty… so we have been welfare free for about a year and need assistance again due to his layoff from work and me making minimum wage as a hair stylist. But we were denied food stamps b/c we make about $200 too much per month. Now we live off macaroni and cheese (and we even eat the off brand b/c we cant afford kraft) hot dogs , ramen noodles and various other cheap “college student” food…. And we do not blow our money, we cannot aford a mortgage right now so we are waiting for a house until it is in our means to pay for it, we do not have brand new cars, I even canceled text messaging on my phone b/c I cannot afford the extra $10 a month to have it. So you tell me how I cannot qualify for some sort of government assistance?!?!
So carson, this is why people are so upset with this woman…. She could have used her money from her supposed back injury to help pay her mothers mortgage.. b/c that is what any grown woman would do to thank her parents for allowing her to use their house to shelter her children. And any mother with premature children would only leave her babies in the hospital to maybe go get food or to go home and get a shower real quick. Instead she is going shopping and going to the spa?! If she really loved her children and loved them so much she wanted to have more, she would be there scared and worried that one of her babies might not make it. When I gave birth to my child I didn’t want her to leave my side.. mind you when I first got pregnant it was not planned and not wanted but over those 9 months there is a special love formed with a human being you have never met and when you meet them you don’t wanna leave their side for a good couple of months…. And I don’t see that with her… I mean every mother is entitled to a day at the spa but not when your babies are in the hospital…
I could write a book on the frustrations I have with this topic … but im leaving it at that……….. and now that you all know my sad sap story (sarcasm) I am now asking for donations to please help me out of my financial problem (just KIDDING!- hey its worth a try… I don’t have 14 children or a mortagage in default but hey?! Why shouldn’t I get some kinda help too)


Harry in Canada   February 20th, 2009 2:01 am ET

Polygamous Mormons and Muslims have been abusing your social security net for years, so why go crazy on this lady? She needs professional help, but so do many other supposedly "sane" people. In the end, I do agree though with those calling for the doctor involved to help out with the huge bills here...a message does need to be sent out here before somebody else tries to break the current record!


Robert From Herndon VA   February 20th, 2009 2:04 am ET

To: Blogger Carson Epes Steinbauer –

Your response clearly shows you’re conflicted by your own views.

It becomes the taxpayers business when a selfish non contributing member of society has a TRACK RECORD, not just a "oooops I did it again moment" of bilking the system that the rest of us hard working proud Americans pay in to. Tell me, do you work? Are you a resident of California? I’m not, In fact, I live 3,000 miles away on the East coast and it will most likely not cost me a dime, but I’m an American, a Democratic American who is sick and tired of paying for everybody else’s poor REPEATED decisions . We live in a country were Gay and Lesbian Americans are unable to foster or adopt even the most “least desired” children but yet these folks can have one child after another without the means to properly care for the ones they currently have. Its legalized child abuse in my opinion and until it’s addressed; it will continue to contribute to the great financial straits this country is currently facing. Just look at her own home state of California. I’m sure 1 of the 20,000 state workers who are about to lose their jobs due to the budget crisis would love to have an in-depth discussion with you on their views pertaining to how well the system has served them. I’m willing to bet not one of those 20,000 hard working Americans have ever used any of those services that they have paid into their whole life.

You rightfully point out the alarming statistics associated with unwed moms, broken families, high number of welfare participants and the abuse that goes on within the system, but then in the next sentence you go on to support this woman’s decisions and praise and glorify her for a job well done in doing it all alone. Are you kidding? You said you watched the Anne Curry Interview, did you not hear Nadya say it was her own decision, as an un-wed mom to raise these children without a father, in a broken home? She is making a decision for these children that they will grow up without a father, they have no say. Nadya Suleman made a conscience, deliberate and self-centered decision to have these children while she already had 6, whom 3 of which are already disabled and thereby increasing the likelihood that these babies may also have some form of disability, God forbid. Nadya has a well documented track record of not having the necessary resources or capabilities required to properly care for her first 6 children. This is coming from her own mother's mouth and from the state agencies who have also confirmed she is receiving public assistance. Oh, and the student loan money, if you watched the interview, you would have learned that she used that money also to pay for treatments to have these additional babies ( aka government provided money, loan or otherwise ).

You seem to believe that rest of America should give her credit for learning our native language. Why make it a point to highlight the fact that she went the extra mile to "conform" to the language of our land? Your comments suggest that just because she’s made a selfish repeated decision to have 14 children out of wedlock that she is somehow now entitled to hand-outs as though she is now suffering some sort of disability that the rest of America should now step in to help her for the sake of “ the America you use to know “ .

I don’t know where you were born, but here in America, we’re not automatically born with credit, we have to earn it; we have to work for it. I was taught that if you want to acquire something, then you must work hard to achieve it or you do without. And there’s a side effect of hard work, and that’s called pride.. That’s the pride of America, the majority of us who work hard and pay into the system for those who are truly in need. That’s the compassionate America that you talk about. People are not longer just going to hand over hard earned money to those who repeatedly make bad decisions; this is precisely what’s wrong with our economy today. So, don’t confuse what you’re seeing today as an angry uncompassionate “liberal” America, instead see an America fully engaged in ensuring that we hold those accountable who are bilking the system and who are in part responsible for the financial and moral crisis this country is in today..

Lastly, in this particular case, the media is simply reporting the facts. Pictures of Nadya reportedly shopping for a 1.2 million dollar house today, while her own mothers house, the mother who helped raise her daughters first 6 children is being foreclosed on. Pictures of Nadya at the Spa getting a manicure, Pictures of Nadya dinning out, Pictures of Nadya at Nordstroms buying cosmetics. Pictures tell a true story, in this particular case they tell a story of a woman who’s out spending tax payers money on luxury items while someone else is watching her 6 older children and while her 8 premature babies fight to get out of the nicu. ( reportedly costing tax payers est $1.4 million dollars ). Folks, who have no basis to their argument tend to always first lash out at the media, throw around the term liberal in hopes that the term will somehow diminish the integrity of a story but and add weight to their argument. I think those days may be over.

You said “how sad, how sad” for the Octomom, I say “how sad, how sad” for her children AND the taxpayers…..


Hartensia   February 20th, 2009 4:04 am ET

You people have lost your minds. Not everyone wants to be on TV. OMG!!! I sit here and listen to you all (on TV) give your opinions of this womans life. This woman had six kids without anyone knowing about it. She did not ask for the public help or attention then and I don't think she has asked for it now. Like any proud mom she wanted to show her babies. It was the "media" who decided to put her on TV. She did go looking for the MEDIA. You can be living your life and the MEDIA decides one day your a good story and then they just take over your life. There should be a law. It should not be possible for the Media just go into a persons life and decide all these things about you. It seem to me people who make there living on TV, that all of us are just sitting at home waiting for our moment to be like you....on TV. Give me a break.

This is making me sick. Women have had many kids for years. People who can not afford kids have them every day, all over the world. So what she look like someone....most people if you look hard enough looks like someone.

This is SICK......What the MEDIA can do to your life is SicK....the fact peple feel they can just invade your life because you are on TV is SICK. The MEDIA is out of control. These people who want to take this womans children have lost their minds.

Hey, heres a idea....why don't we love this woman. Why don't we help her and her children....if we so worred and care so much. Why don't some you baby sit for her....with 14 kids she will need it. Buy her some pampers.....Im sure she wont' be able to sell them on the black market. Passing judgement on her requires so much less work than honest God fearing caring for her and her babies. Keeping a mom with her kids the ony family those babies know.

aaahhhhhggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


eskimo   February 20th, 2009 5:43 am ET

Octomom AKA nadia suleiman needs help, that help ladies and gentlemen is giving her children for adoption i mean come on the LADY HAS DEBTS THAT STACK UP ALMOST TO THE ROOF GOD!
she is not able to take care of those kids i mean the grandparents also cannot take care of the kids.

NADIA PLZ STOP THE PUBLICITY, ITS SICK, DISGUSTING, AND JUST PLAIN SAD THOSE KIDS NEED A SUITABLE MOTHER!


beezie   February 20th, 2009 8:22 am ET

I would have a very hard time donating to octo-mom. Personally I think she did it for money , I have two children one with Cerebral Palsy. theres no way nadia can care for all of them kids. Nadia also said she was not getting government support, what does she think the student loans are.? so she is living on government aid, how can she get student loans if she was not in school also, can't believe she was taking classes while pregnant with the babies.
As a mother I would hate the thought of losing my children but I am not sure if she is mentally capable of taking care of these babies,
this girl definitely has issues.
also please don't ask me for any donations to help her. cuz I lost my job and I won't get any help cuz I bought a house within my means, and I have always made my payments on time.
but now this is a whole different issue that I really should not get going on,


Jo-Anne Humphrey   February 21st, 2009 12:59 am ET

I too think it is ridiculous the way people want to chop this poor moms head off. People ought to mind their own business. Other families have benefited from TV shows; why not this woman... Yes she needs the help. I believe she loves all her children. Maybe she saw too many episodes of John & Kate plus 8... or maybe the Duggers. Maybe she does not want a man in her life for whatever reason. The truth is it is not our business. I say good luck to her and it would be great to see this family in a nice house with people to help her with her children. I will watch it. Perhaps I am sensitive to the topic as I was unable to have children. I am 51 and alone now with no one. So long as she is a good mom, and no one has proved her not to be that.... then for Gods sake leave the poor woman alone.


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