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September 10, 2010

Tonight on Larry King Live!

Posted: 07:00 PM ET

Legendary Physicist Stephen Hawking!

Stephen Hawking says that God did not

create the universe!

In a rare interview, hear his controversial new

claims on the origins of life and mankind’s

ultimate mysteries – why are we here?

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Hearing Gods Voice   September 10th, 2010 8:02 pm ET

"Did God create the universe?" The answer to such a question reflects only the beliefs of the one who answers. God is to each, according to their limiting beliefs. The limitation is not God, but within our perception of God.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 8:05 pm ET

If you put Stephen Hawking's recent observations and conclusions in reverse order, would it read 'the primary function of the universe was to be the machine for the creation of Gods? If the g-spot of happiness and pleasure is found next door in an "alternate universe", let's get the hell out of here and go...even if it's for a few weeks, on cooled lava beaches...It is fascinating to speculate that the universe is more odd and unique than we vision, but it must be more odd and unique than we can envision...caj


Smith in Oregon   September 10th, 2010 8:42 pm ET

Over 90% of the Universe is composed of Dark Matter and Dark Energy which current Science is largely in the dark in even theorizing how and what it is. Never mind that FACT, Stephen Hawking lashing out in his burned-out body in sad need of repair is making a statement that is not supported by science nor any remotely accepted fact.

Science cannot explain the invisible Dark Matter and Dark Energy which exists and composes some 90% of the Universe, Stephen Hawking apparently ignores that FACT and just spews a utterly baseless ignorant comment, about as original as 'dog' bites man.


Ian Colte   September 10th, 2010 8:44 pm ET

I enjoy reading about and studying science particularly physics, and I have tremendous respect for Stephen Hawking, but its extremely arrogant of any scientist to claim that science can explain the origins of life, matter, or claim that God does not exist. An honest scientist, whether one who believes in God or not, will acknowledge that all science can do is speculate. For instance, how did the first living organisms begin on earth? Science hypothesizes (with no viable explanation of "how" it happened) that this might have occurred in a primordial soup in mud, oceans, underground, but science is not close to an answer. Or was life on earth "seeded" from comets, asteroids, or, as I've heard some notable scientists speculate, brought here by extraterrestrials? How did matter come into being? Again, not close to an answer on that either.

Finally, science and religion occupy different fields of human experience and answer completely different questions. Science is rightly concerned with "how the universe works. Religion, specifically Jesus Christ's message, answers the "why" of existence.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:00 pm ET

God was created from the universe .


Kathie   September 10th, 2010 9:01 pm ET

If you look at our universe it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that God created it. Science never has and never will create a seed. God said it, I believe it and that settles it. Someday Mr Hawking will meet our Creator, feel His unconditional love and welcome him home.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:02 pm ET

The universe has always been here .


Tom   September 10th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

Can Hawking prove the grand design ?


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

I dont support the big bang I think it was formed from burnt cosmic ashes and gases that have been here all along .


Terry in Toronto   September 10th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

Hi: I rreally want to hear and understand Dr. Hawking and the subtitles are a mess. Please fix them.
Thank you.


Norman G. Palmer III   September 10th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

God is unnecessary and will only in-peed on our future.I whole wholeheartedly side with Hawking


David Kemp   September 10th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

I read the other day that some US blogger told you to enjoy your chair now that you are publicly discounting the God thing. What the world needs is a few more heroes like Mr Hawking and a lot less of the other types of people who think it is all important to be forgiven of their sins while at the same time not be expected to own their ignorance – much less be forgiven for it.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:11 pm ET

What do you think is beyound the cosmos I think that at the end of the cosmos is the starting point .


Graham   September 10th, 2010 9:11 pm ET

Hawking talks about the Universe coming from nothing. Who created nothing? What is nothing?


Bing De La Vega   September 10th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

Larry,

Pls ask Professor Hawking about his denial on the existence of God when for example, Francis Collins an accomplished physicist, medical physician and other highly acclaimed works , in his book The Language of God acknowledges the presence of God.


Tyler Sprague   September 10th, 2010 9:13 pm ET

Please mention this to Mr. Hawking:

Even if we we're to colonize outside of our solar system...what about Andromeda's collision course with the Milky Way? We could never escape it since we can't travel between galaxies. The universe is all about chance and even if we were to escape our own grasp of idiocy, we would never be able to secure our fate.


john doe   September 10th, 2010 9:13 pm ET

MAN DID NOT CREATE THE WORLD BUT CREATED THIS "WORLDLY" MESS!!!


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

I think if you was to go in a straight line threw the cosmos you would wind up where you started .


aliou, jacksonville fl   September 10th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

While religion is destroying our country, we have great people like your guest telling us there is nothing out there but new universes being formed out of nothing, larry,

What a shame on our religious fanatics from all works of life, whose power mongering would swallow us all in the name of religion.


Thom Dworsky   September 10th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

Hawking's mind is a treasure of the human race. I wouldn't bet against him. But I have a question: how does Stephen Hawking feel about Zen Buddhism as a world religion, as it does not have a god?


Mary in Ontario, Canada   September 10th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

I love science. However, because God loved me first, I know Him now and love Him, and others, more than I could ever have believed possible, Science is just one of God's many gifts.


BJ   September 10th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

Having read most of his writings, I believe Dr. Hawking's major premise is that we needn't use God as an entity to fear nor to use as a crutch: we, and the rest of the Universe, HAS a grand design so grand and perfect that it can be studied and understood in terms of Physics.

Too often, Theology is used as an excuse and a tool of power over others. He does not deny the existence of a Universal Spirit (no matter what label we assign It). Time is a spiral, not a linear function. If we are in a giant snow globe, or a multilevel interactive game, so be it: Within the confines of our brief lifetimes, we remain responsible to honor and cherish each other and the world in which we live - likely one of many life-filled planetary units in countless galaxies across the Universe or Universes!


Rob   September 10th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

It's so refreshing to hear someone say the words................Many Universes...........No God needed


Shyann   September 10th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

Ask Mr. Hawking if he is an athiest. There ya go.


BAhkis   September 10th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

god does not exsist. He is a myth, a story, a tale.... Only simple minded crackpots follow "gods"


George in Kansas   September 10th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

It is extremely arrogant that this man makes the assertion which he has re: whether God created the universe. Unless Hawking can answer the why of his own existence before whose face he exists (I doubt a scientist would understand this seeing that most of science does not believe in the impact that "another" makes upon him or her.) Hawking's own assertions are quite telling about the nature of science itself. Basically science and those who practice it, are reaching for the pure observational perspective trying to achieve minimal participation. If anything, this presents a situation in which reason implodes upon itself leaving nothing but an appeal to "another" for meaning. Perhaps faith is an issue that Hawking has no idea about.


Andrew   September 10th, 2010 9:22 pm ET

I suggest Mr. Hawking to look into a mirror.
The image in front of him will be the living proof that God exists.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:22 pm ET

This is like which came first the chicken or the egg figure that out and then you have your god answer .


Re'Mona See Carter   September 10th, 2010 9:23 pm ET

I have dreams, visions, and premonitions. I think and pray often. Since I only have a seventh grade education HOW is it that I know So Much? How can this be? I see things Before they happen. My Senses are Heighten Significantly! I know that I can be used to help Billions of People.


stephanie   September 10th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

The only reason "people" want to try to prove there is no God or God did not create us and the universe is to excuse the guilt of sin. God is still God and he always will be the GREAT I AM ALONE besides him there is no other greater. What a waste of time and money to try to debate christians and other Faiths that God did not create your world. Everything science shows proves that NO BODY could create and Nature on its own was also created there NEVER will be proof because the proof is God.


Shyann   September 10th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

I also wanted to add, ask Mr. Hawking where does DNA come
from ? Why is that each human is UNIQUE. Why is a little finger
print so meanful ? I know so many people who are book smart
but have NO common sense. Fortunatly, I have BOTH !! GOD IS
REAL.


Jessie Dodard   September 10th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

It is very understandable why or how a man in Stephen's condition could not believe in God however his feelings don't make all truths about God any less true. What we are witnessing are men who are so overwhelmed by their scientific findings and knowledge that they cannot atrribute physical laws to the Creator of them. God is real and he started the Universe. He was not a mere bystander or witness to it's unexplained development. Wake up.


Chris Moore   September 10th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

Of course there is a creator. Everything is too perfect. I am not a religious person. I am a scientist. Science is not the enemy of religion. Far from it. I believe they go hand in hand. The force we call God is the ultimate science.


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Don't people realize that declaring that god created everything is an explanation that really explains nothing! When the study of science can shed light on natural phenomena and explain its processes, then where do we need to invoke a god? Saying a god created everything simply is not good enough because a whole host of other questions should instantly come to mind, like who created the creator than?


steven chaisson   September 10th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Ask the physicist to explain gravity and how to create grass in the laboratory from dirt. But the arogance of man thinks he can has the knowledge of the universe.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

The co-author of Grand Design has a great point...remain open to possibilities. No one knows, what witless men are certain of..in regards to a 'Supreme Being'..caj


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

God says there can only be one god but that dosnt mean that there is only one god .


Joel Weiss   September 10th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Per the theories of general and special relativity, the time to the beginning of the universe is asymptotic, i.e. we cannot measure it before the first few picoseconds, which could be an eternity unto themselves. Therefore, the universe always existed in our time-frame. In an infinite time anything can happen, including the creation of the universe. God may have been there or not.


Karin Pozsogar   September 10th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

Larry King:
Most certainly not just a moderator. Rather a very intelligent, smart, charming man, who certainly knows his "trade". BRAVO Larry!!! BRAVO Mr. King!!! Great caliber!!! Great respect and admiration. Sincerely, Karin from Canada (originally from Vienna, Austria)


Jean, Toronto   September 10th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

This is the type of learning and teaching which lead the tepid of faith, the weak of spirit, the doubters and those who wish to live an easy-going life with no moral and spiritual obligations, of God's existence astray. Beware!

The WORLD says:

Confusion! Perversion of truth! Errors of Communism! Humanism! Modernism!

GOD SAYS, Our Lord Jesus Christ:

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will get in among you and will not spare the flock. And from among your own selves men will rise speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.
Acts of the Apostles 20:29:30

What and who is science? Does science have intelligence? Can science create anything, to make our bodies, place every limb in order, speech, sense of smell and so many other factors which make up the human being and intelligence.
We did not come out of nothingness. Please do not insult human beings with that nonsense.
Who created the lakes, rivers, seas, trees? God is The One Who is the Intelligent Design and no other or nothing else. All human beings and things are subject to Him.
These people should smarten up. Their learning and teaching are false, the false prophets of our time.


suzieq   September 10th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

If mankind was to survive for another twenty billion years what do you think they would evolve to become?


Charles: Mesa, Az   September 10th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

It's refreshing to listen to a scientists talk. They always have something interesting to say about our world, and the universe. Scientific theory and proofs are intellectually stimulating, therefore refreshing and also relaxing. What a contrast it is when I put a scientist on one side, and a crazy Pastor from Gainesville Fla on the other, along with with his enemys in Afghanistan chanting death to america; what an incredibly marked difference between science and religion there is...


Mark P   September 10th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Yes, I believe God did create the universe and the laws of physics. Science cannot exist without God, but God can exist without science. Why is it so hard for people to have faith and believe in a Supreme Being? I am a degreed engineer and believe in science and in the existence of God.


diane   September 10th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

I think that God created the universe due to the fact that all religion came out of what God said. Why do they all line up with the Word of God?


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

God became the universe is acceptable .


Wascar Dlos Santos   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

We are still trying to figur out who or what we are in the universe?.. So who are we to say who or what is God? Is God nature, an alien is god a planet or planets. Befor our mayor raligions took over in the ancien world there were many believes and thoughts about who god is and belive in deferent gods. A few of our mayor religions were forese on to people in the past. Now we are free thinkers and we Are protected from religious persecution. I belive threre is a creater and something watching over us!! Aliens, gods, we don't know what they look like. Planets could be living aliens and were tiny tick or bacteria on this planet.


Trevor   September 10th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

Nothing can do nothing. Something that does not exist cannot take action to bring itself into existance. Hawkings' conclusions are pre-supposing the existance of natural law. Where did this natural law come from? And how could a natural law exist without anything to govern?


Vic   September 10th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

God did create the heavens and the earth! for the word of God is foolish to those who do not believe. To believe in God and be born again, requires a change in life style, in which people do not want to give up thier ways, they want to continue in thier sinful ways and thats why they turn against the kings of kings and the lord of lords. Man did not just appear one day from out of nothing. One day every man and every knee will bow down to the king of kings, wheather they belive in him or not and give an account to what he or she did in thier life time.


Jean, Toronto   September 10th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

Depak you are speaking and teaching blasphemy. You did not create the world. GOD IS THE ONE WHO CREATED THE WORLD. Humble yourself before God and He will exult you in due time, if you do not keep blaspheming Him and teaching your foolishness which leads people astray.


Chris Moore   September 10th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

Of course there is a creator. Everything is too perfect. I am not a religious person. I am a scientist. Science is not the enemy of religion. Far from it. When you take away the mythology, they go hand in hand. The force we call God is the ultimate science.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

The nothing has always existed the planets came from burnt gases .


moustakim   September 10th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

good create the universe,,,,check out the holy books but humain destroy all the throught...............


Jim Carroll   September 10th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

There was never nothing. The Universe has always existed. It had no
beginning and it will have no end.The unifying infinitestimal particle and
its relationship to the organization and behavior of all matter.


The Voice in the Desert   September 10th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

It is hard to believe but not at all impossible that someone as intelligent as Stephen Hawking would say something as stupid as that. For something to come out of nothing on its own just does not make any kind of sense. In our world we can see all around us the blue prints of existence. For a human to come to life a sperm must fertilize an egg. A tree can not exist without first being planted as a seed. We proved in the 1800s that spontaneous generation was false. The Bible clearly states how things came to be. We humans may not know the science behind God's work but we do know that something cannot come from nothing. Chaos theory dictates that the universe is always in disarray. Yet on this planet we see all things trying to come to order. So scientists need to rethink their theories more closely before putting so much into just a really strong thought. Genesis states that God created the heavens and the earth. Man kind needs to really take a good look at itself and stop trying to discredit the creator just because mankind cannot cope with the fact that there is more to life then just this existence. Also time does not exist. It is just a unit of measure that we have put on ourselves in order to record history based on the amount of times that we go around the sun.


Rosie Young   September 10th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

I truly believe that "nothingness" to be "energy" manifest.


Tom in Ohio   September 10th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Ask Stephen what he thinks about this theory; GOD was the Grand Architect behind the emergence of life in the universe & on earth, HOWEVER, he used Evolution with Natural Selection as the MECHANISM through which to accomplish this!!!


John Gutierrez   September 10th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

I believe in a higher power that governs all of existence, although i cannot say i truly believe the world was created the way the bible describes.


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

What is more arrogant? Is it to say that we now know a little more than we used to... and than calmly say, "we also don't have all the answers... yet" or is it more arrogant to say "I have a book which was written by a god long ago and it knows everything"

That is the difference between science and religion.


John   September 10th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

If nothing is not stable and things can come and go from nothing, then surely nothing is not nothing but something!?


KelsoV   September 10th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Absolutely fascinating interview. Unbiased, open to possibility..thank you!


Scott   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

What does "God did it." answer?
Oh yeah, nothing.


Michael   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

Why did nothing become something at the point it did and not earlier or later? If there is all the same chance of it occurring at any point and the universe is infinite, shouldn't it have occurred at a point infinitely earlier? A match stays unlit, and will remain unlit infinitely, unless something ignites it. Wouldn't the same thing happen in the universe?


steven chaisson   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

I agreed with Dupak and I am Catholic, sorry Father. I am .... the beginning and the end. I knew since the begiining. There is no time with God. God didn't create the universe, God became the universe. Everything we feel, touch, see, sense, and don't see is god.


Hemant   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

It would be interesting to know if Stephen would like to credit the God, who may be behind his being able to live for 33 more years and beyond while the science he believes in gave him only 2 years to live at that time.


Rosie Young   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

futhermore, that "energy" manifests itself into "matter" which is what we can see, touch, feel, etc. Therefore, really, it's not "nothingness".


Roland   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

remember this little equation: Einstein + Sex = God. And use it the next time someone asks you for proof for a Creator.


Don   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

Great show tonight Larry. We need more thoughtful programs like this.


John Pollock   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

I bet God finds all of this discussion very enjoyable. God, Creator, outside of creation is also outside of our understanding.


Chad   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

Before any process in time begins it must have a command. Where do those commands come from? The origins of commands come from an intellegence. In order to manifest its commands it must have a language, That language must be recieved than carried out thus fulfilling its purpose. John chapter 1:1-4. If this is true, than what quantum physics says about how quarks react to an observer could very well explain how everything has come to be, because God was the first observer.


Leandro Lopez   September 10th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

Science does not have to prove that God exists. The burden of proof lies on the first ones that made the claim that there was a God.


Marie Jackson   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

More than twenty years ago I said in a lecture that the God that created this universe no longer exists in the same form because It became this universe which is what I just heard Dr. Chopra say. Nothing is created in a vacuum. This universe had to have been created by some intelligence or force.


Regina   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

There is a creator whose name is Jehovah and created the earth & universe 4 our enjoyment making us the highest of all creation. We r the only creation made with thinking ability. He also gives satisifing answers to the most compling questions. What is the purpose of life? Way r we here? Why we grow old, get sick & die. He will soon let Himself be know to mankind soon. If u really what to know the truth it is all in His word the Bible.


Mitch Hill   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Is it possible that our minds are not capable of comprehending some of these questions? Perhaps some dimensions don't compute in our vision of the universe.


Sherri   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

The face tells all! Deepak is so peaceful compared to the others on the panels. I persoanlly do believe in God, but besides that only the Divine can create such peace as we all see in Deepaks face.


Holly   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

It would seem that the "nothingness" from which something arises out of is the Zero -Point Energy Field. Is this correct? Is this the field that is pregnant with potentiality that theology calls the "mind of God"?


Christine   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I don't know anything about physics, but I have to ask who or what created the laws of nature? If these laws are responsible for creation, then how can they come from 'nothing'?


Trendan Thomas   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Do you believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins? If not ,when tragedy strikes your life in any form who will you call on?


Ion Ginga   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I see that the priest puts a lot of emphasis on the beginning of the Universe and on how it couldn't come from nothing. Her's a question for him; from were god did come? From nothing? How ?


Re'Mona See Carter   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Why do we think and talk about GOD so much..... if he doesn't exsist??? It's like thinking about 'water waves' always around us....why think of that? It doesn't exsist. It doesn't mean anything. So There we have it. We think on the thing/s that exsists and we draw our own conclusion/s.


bill fabian   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Steven Hawking has "great faith" in his theory that the universe and life brought itself into being. I find it amazing that these supposedly brilliant men and women would believe that time and chance can add up to anything.Time and Chance and a buck fifty, will get you a drip coffee at Starbucks. If you take a handful of amino acids, add a trillion years and chance, you'll get a handful of amino acids or less, not more.


Jim Carroll   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

God is a creation of man. He is Nature's God. He is something that people need.


SUZY   September 10th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I DON'T THINK SCIENCE WILL EVER PROVE THAT GOD EXISTS....
THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT FAITH.


Austin Friedman   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

I am a 19 year old follower of Jesus Christ. I fully believe that God created the world and everything in it. In the Bible it says that God created us (humans), so with my beliefs stated here is my question to you. How were humans, as intricate and sophisticated as we are, created?


Donna   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

All there is is "one" thing. When there is one thing, there is nothing apart from the one to realize there is something....The one seems to cease to exist .... thus everything is "nothing"


David   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

who created the creator? God is eternal, the alpha and omega and timeless... no?


Ronnie Harper   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

Religion is fiction. Religion is a pox on humanity. Religion is the greatest hoax every perpetrated on humankind. Religion is patriarchy incarnate, a mechanism by which human males subjugate and ravage the planet.


cynthia williamson   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

I have seen God in too many things to believe in nothing


Tom Davis   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

Can what we think "nothingness is" is another dimension within the universe


Ryan   September 10th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

All I have to say very simple if you say that something cant come from nothing then explain did God come from nothing. You cant argue this


sam   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

I believe in god! Science is all too complex the way everything works. It just doesn't happen. God made it all happen. There's just to much to all happen on its own.


Vincent Allotti   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Will the panel address the idea of- casual intent and what creates that intent?


Hema Narayanan   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Universe is God.


Evelyn, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan CANADA   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

If indeed God did create the universe, then someone or something must have created God? Who or what was that? Why doesn't Larry King ask this question?


Elizabeth von Eppinghoven   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Religion and science, to me, share many commonalities as they are both engaged in the same attempt to reach via speculation what can't be grasped intuitively or with physical proof. Both require leaps of faith. Finally, I don't think the question, "Does God exist?" is the correct focus; rather, has science proved that he does not exist. To date, based on all I have read, scientists have not proved so conclusively; therefore, to eliminate God as a possible, plausible originator of the universe is scientifically erroneous as it is a plausible explanation. To eliminate it means you may be jettisoning the correct answer.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Who created God? The first one to flinch that had the intelligence to invent..caj


ray brooks   September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

what came before nothingness and how did it evolve?


Robert Montague, Ph.D.   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Scientists learn how the universe works through formulating a hypothesis and testing its validity. However, science does not have a test for the existence of God. To assume that the fundamental laws of physics precludes the existence of God is a position that ignores the obvious questions: where did physics come from ? Further, how did matter simply come into existence ? Until potential answers to these questions can be "tested" by scientific inquiry, no one can answer the question of God, not even a scientist as eminent as Dr. Hawking.
A better position would be to keep an open mind until a complete understanding of the origin of the universe is possible..


Anton Johnson   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

I'm an atheist, and i understand that people have a hard time accepting the truth that science proves to them. One of these truths is the fact that we try imagine how can something come from nothing, but we have to realize that everything that the something came from always existed, therefore there was never a begining of the universe, but it was always here.


James Russell   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

It doesn't matter if God exists or not, over 80% of the worlds population believes in God, in one form or another, and their actions through their beliefs and moral structures have life-and-death consequences for us all, in that sense God is real. James


banjo olowe   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Do you believe in an infinite universe


i   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Hi Larry,
Another Absolutely "Brilliant night". Thank you.

Stalwarts like Dr. Hawking and Dr. Leo, Dr. Chopra ---is all encompassing!!
Thank you.


granddesign   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Grand Design says "philosophy is dead" but then proceeds to build his case on philosophy🙂 i.e there is no scientific method to prove "GRAND DESIGN"


Jonathan Smith   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

I belive that Thomas Camplell's Book My Big TOE has provided the answer to all of the questions that are being asked on your program thisevening. I would like to know what your gues think. Thank you


Warren J   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Larry My Theory is that nothing is equal on earth because everything has it own time. Why not get rid of the word, Equal.


Linda Sprinkle   September 10th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

EVERYTHING IS BORN OUT OF NOTHINGNESS!
IT IS CALL CREATIVITY!


Joshua Jones   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Stephen Hawking is correct. Once Occam's Razor is applied into the logic, God becomes superfluous in explanation.

Just because the universe does not need a god to create it doesn't necessarily mean that a god didn't create it.

The question here isn't the existence of a god or god(s), whose correct and who isn't.. it's whether or not we need a god to explain the wonders of existence.


Larry   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

I havea question: how many times in the existence of time and space has nothing become something and then something become nothing?


Dan Z.   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

How would the guests reply to Michael Behe's (American biochemist, author, and intelligent design advocate) argument of Irreducible Complexity... [biological systems are too complex to have evolved from simpler]. This may not address the idea of "Did God create the world – but more so, the topic of intelligent design"


Ulysses McDowell   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

I view the question as regards to did God create the universe, or did the universe create itself from a black hole perspective. That is, scientist say that nothing can escape a black hole, but the black hole exist. So, the black hole didn't create itself just as the universe couldn't create itself.

Ulysses


John Smith   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

If God doesn't care about what humans do, then HITLER will not suffer any consequences in the afterlife.

Existence is theoretically impossible.

Consciousness is self-awareness, or being aware that one is aware of oneself, rather than just being aware of oneself.


Shams Ali   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Hi

According to the book of Islam, the Quran, that God is one, he has not brothers, no sisters, no son no Mother, no father. If that is the case then the question arises that has any one seen God?


Jasdeep   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

SIMPLE GURU NANAK DEFINED IN "JAPJI SAHIB"

GOD IS ONE. HE IS TRUTH, HE IS CREATOR OF EVERYTHING, HE IS NOT ANSWERABLE TO ANYBODY, HE HAS NO EFFECTION WITH ANYBODY . HE IS BIRTHLESS, DEATHLESS. HE IS LIMITLESS IN LIFE.


Melissa Bollea   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Amazing Interview....Deepak Chopra is a genius. period.


Kenny Wilson   September 10th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Imagine you and a friend walking through a desert for mile after mile of and suddenly coming upon a house with running water and electricity,furniture and people.

Your friend after examining the house, argues with you that this house came from nothingness. THAT'S exactly what these scientist want us to believe about our universe.


Linda Sprinkle   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

EVERYTHING IS BORN OUT OF NOTHINGNESS ITIS CALLED CREATIVITY!


Jason   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Why do people need a God?


Vaughn Mauren   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

If God is needed to create something out of nothingness, what is then needed to create God out of nothingness?


krd   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Let Fr. Spitzer speak, please


Ricardo   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Basically we are just another species in this earth that will come and go. We don't know the origins of the universe, and we never will. Religion is based on faith not knowledge, science can explain many things, but not the origin of the universe.


Emily   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Theologians, mathematicians, physicists and scientists all have one thing in common: nothing can be completely proven. Speculation backed by models, theorems and postulates is what we have. We don't have all the answers. And will we ever?


Vincent Allotti   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

September 10th, 2010 9:38 pm ET
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Will the panel address the idea of- causal intent and what creates that intent?


Nat   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

It seems possible that we create our universe by our thoughts and ideas. So, yes, creating from nothing seems possible.


Tom Cuellar   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Thank you Stephen Hawkings. Finally the voice of reason that perhaps if heeded can lead us out of the darkness that religion has enslaved mankind with for ages upon ages. Logic leads us to acknowledge that man created god.


Tara   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

man created god


Faith & Necessary Conditions   September 10th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Isn't what Hawking is describing the essence of Faith? That God is not a necesssary condition for existence is a necessary condition for faith that he is. In fact, If one knew that God was necessary to exist, then existence would prove God existed and faith would be impossibe. Hawking's theory is not only consistent with Faith in God, it is necessary for such Faith.

Judson Eldredge


Rose   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

I believe god and the universe are one. He is everything that is....I am, that I am.


Justin   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

I believe and feel that we live inside the existence of God. When i look up at the stars i see an ever ending form of cells, each star being a cell that operates God's existence.

Like they always say, God is all around us.


Robert celecia   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

Human beings seem to require the actions of science to be guided
by a "supreme being" when in fact we are surrounded by all of the evidences of hard science. The god that lives in our hearts is a belief
that we require as a beacon in the darkness of unknowing.

R celecia
Montana


Lynda Austin   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

Question: Did God create the Universe?
Answer: No. You create what you create. God created the space for you to do that.


LIMDA ISHI8KAWA   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

i believe the most important queation is that we are all connected.
string theory and the net of indra


Justin Buffer   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

God lives in our hearts. A militant atheist is fighting himself: You cannot be strongly against something unless on some level you believe in it.


Shirley favot   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

We are spiritual beings having a human experience.


Dan in Lafayette,IN   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

If the universe started as nothing how then could there be laws of physics? Would there not be total havoc?


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

Joseph Smith Mormon Prophet

Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.


Felipe R Valera   September 10th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

Hello Larry:

The creation of universe could be posible by the perfect combination of quimics, it is like to win the lottery with the 1 2 3 4 5 6 combination, it is almost imposible but it is a posible combination; by the way if you want to hear interesting and profound ideas about this topic, invite brilliant minds like Fidel Castro and Joel Osteen to your show.

Good Night for everybody

Good luck Larry king


anthony boss   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

i think that larry king is god


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

The spirit is the body of god which grows threw human or animal form reincarnation that grows in thought every time the host dies .


andrew   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

if GOD ,wasn't the creator ,why and how would that word even come into
our heads.


krd   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Give Fr. Spitzer 90 seconds to explain how physics proves the existence of God - rather than a 10 second question about human birth.

He'll explain so all can understand - just let him speak, please


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Physics explaining what happens after we die...silly. It's Physiology..we rot and smell and degrade...and depending where we die...we calcify..and become archeological discoveries of chance down the road..caj


Brian Porzio   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

It is not possible for something to come out of nothing, no matter how hard we try to cloud "nothingness" with elusive physicist language and terms. And there cannot be an infinite series of causes. There must have been an uncaused cause of all causes. And for such a cause as the universe, with all of its complexity, vastness and set up, the only LOGICAL explanation is creation by an Intelligent Designer. I.D. is completely grounded in science and physics. Science and faith are not mutually exclusive. Anyone who claims this is presenting a false dichotomy while at the same time showing ignorance of the most basic cosmological principles.


lynne malone   September 10th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

what wou;d father spitzer say about the probabilities of the universe supporting life?


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Regarding Deepak..I continually see him and others like him (the feel good docs) pretend to know things they dont. With most people being science illiterate, it is irresponsible to do what he does which is to take things that only work in the quantum level and high jack it, twist it to sound like it applies in the macro world. I've seen him do this over and over again, probably for his own "self help" business profit! shameful!


Pritam Sen   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Spanda Karika a tantric Shaivite Kashmiri text states that matter is a vibration of energy and energy is a vibration of consciousness. If Dr Hawking's 'nothing' can be called 'consciousness' then theologists and theoretical physicists are talking about the same thing using different terms.


Michelle Partin   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Let us please look at the big picture this day. Mr. Jones, I will not call him a "Preacher" as that is a joke. It seems he is just like looking for his 15 minutes of fame...please media....his time is up. I have this to say to Mr. Jones: Do you love your children as much as I love mine? My son is in the United States Air Force and you, are putting the one somebody I love the most, in harms way, not to mention ALL OF OUR TROOPS...and for what? So you can increase membership? I would walk through fire to make sure your child was safe, will you do the same for mine and so many others? Stop, drop to your knee's and pray to God and ask for forgiveness..and make this so very wrong,right.


Roland   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Try it yourself. Build a baby from scratch (no cheating with pre-manufactured humans). Baby building is very complex. You need an ovary, an egg, fallopian tubes, a uterus, a hormone called estrogen, an umbilical cord, a placenta, and countless other womanly things that all work hand in hand to make a baby. Not only that, you'll also need the necessary information-packed sperm, and tubes to transport them to the egg. Each of these very delicate systems must work in perfect harmony to make a baby. And if it doesn't happen successfully over and over again, the human race will disappear.

Could you build each one of these complex systems, time them to work together in perfect sync, and produce a brand new human in 9 months that will grow, think, walk, talk, sing, do the electric slide, play basketball, AND...be able to reproduce more humans with these same capabilities and complex systems? Could you do that?


Sid   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Is there really a source of energy that did create everything that does exist right now? Notice i didnt say God.


Ronald Duque   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

We can never understand the Divine. Our minds will only take us as far as our intellect and imagination can endeavor. How can something finite define the infinite?


Maggie   September 10th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

God and the Universe are interchangeable names for the GREAT UNKNOWN! We say that we believe in God, but we really believe in the UNIVERSE!!


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Kings Follet Discorse- by Joseph Smith

The intelligence of spirits had no beginning, neither will it have an end. That is good logic. That which has a beginning may have an end. There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they are co-equal [co-eternal] with our Father in heaven.


Isaac Crow   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I've been writing a book with the SUN who has been communicating with me over the past 10 years, the SUN tells me it created this existence, and it was created from desire and passion of energy to transform into forms of intelligence, because energy has expressed itself, as intelligence that is creative. We are energy we are intelligent and we create. The SUN says let's get connected, instead of disconnected.


JC   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

On this topic it seems that we have two opposing sides, however in terms of truth these topics are not opposing. To believe in one and not the other is something that is beyond comprehension. The universe is what it is because natural laws have caused it to be that way. These laws are governed by not scientific processes, but by a God. Laws do not govern themselves.


Nabil Naser   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Have the quests considered that God may be the universe itself.
The steady state theory presented such idea. Perhaps it needs to be reconsidered


Mike Colin   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Whether you believe that something reached out with a magic finger and created the universe ("God") or that the universe just happened ("Big Bang") you're not getting to the real question: Where did "God" come from, or where did the matter that created the "big bang" come from? How can something come from nothing? We are not creatures that are meant to understand.


Ingrid Shafer   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I would like to ask Fr. Spitzer what he believes Nicolas of Cusa would have to say? If we accept - as he argued - the coincidence of maximum and minimum then, ultimately, all things are one, and all things come from nothing.


yoginimini   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Deepak ROCKS!!


Milan   September 10th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I will believe in god when they will take the lightning rods off the churches!


Jim Carroll   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

THE EARTH WAS BORN OUT OF THE SUN.
There was never nothing. The Universe has always existed. It had no
beginning and it will have no end.The unifying infinitestimal particle and
its relationship to the organization and behavior of all matter. BORN OUT OF THE SUN


Stacey   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

The Bible was written 2,000 yrs ago, The Bible states in Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, [and] hangeth the earth upon nothing. How would they know this if God didn't tell them? No man had gone to the moon nor was their any thought of going to the moon to see the design of the world.


Jasdeep   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

"Read Jaapji Sahib" All is defined clearly "HOW, WHO DEFINE"
GOD IS TIMELESS "ONLY THING ABOVE TIME"
JAAPJI DEFINED " WHAT HAS BIRTH , SHAPE SIZE COLOR HAS DEATH, THAT IS UNDER CONTROL OF TIME "KAAL" GOD IS ABOVE TIME "AKAL PURKH"


Robert Salvage   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Since you have invoked quantum mechanics, I have a question: since it is generally agreed that consciousness in some form is required to collapse the wave function, i.e. form every material aspect of the physical universe, but you are arguing, I assume, that consciousness is ultimately formed by the physical universe and requires nothing else, do you see a paradox somewhere in there?


Bruce Nerenberg   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

I believe that Dr. Hannah Arendt in her book "The Life of the Mind" addresses the issue the relationship of religion, myth, and science noting that, on the one hand, religion and myth search for MEANING while, on the other hand, science employs COGNITION and thus is a search for TRUTH. In this context she refers to Aristotle's comment about a prayer - that a prayer is a statement (apophansis) that is meaningful even though it is not true or false.


Al Pack   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

So far no one has proven either way who created anything; so.
The bible has made hundreds of predictions thousands of years
in advance of when the events happened. Who could do that??
The bible predicts the actual events in histroy as they happened
and are happening. For one, God predicted that there would be
four world empires. The last one is sbeing formulated now. And
that is one world empire that the Presidents and others are talking
about.......


george fox   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

What happens to our spirt when we die??


jay   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

God didn't create man man created God


Melody   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

I believe God and science exist together. God could have set things in motion and perhaps not literally, but figuratively stood back and watched the universe and life blossom scientifically.


Jim   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Only our persuit of science will bring us to enlightenment. The science of Mathematics is infinite. No beginning and no end. Sounds much like religious catechism that God our creator, has no beginning or no end. Here's a simple algebraic equation for Hawking; infinity=God.


Vishal Mann   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

I do not believe that God exists. No proof. Human beings are scared and they have to believe in something to explain things that they dont know about. " X Y Z created it or knows the answer " is the easiest way out. Human beings need to put their resources to get out and expolre the universe rather than spending billions in caves in Afghanistan ( where more human beings are out of touch with reality than anywhere on earth.


Brandon   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Outer space shows proof of the big bang theory doesn't it? If the big bang theory makes as much sense as it does, why do people still believe in a god? As cosmologists like stephen hawking said in a previous documentary "science is based on reason, while religion is based on authority." How do you expect there to believe in a god when science is the only thing that shows logical explanation?


sensical   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Quantum "seas" that "fluctuate" are not "nothing"... That may called be an "observable nothingness" but is not "nothing" as" Non-Being/Non-Existence" in a fundamental sense... Empirically the issue of God or the eternality of macro-cosmic/quantum realities must be dealt with at the theoretical level. to posit quantum reality as "Nothing" is to misunderstand the concept of nothingness... Perhaps "Non-Being" understood as actual/true-nothingness should be a key thing to keep in mind during this convo


Bill Archer   September 10th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

It was not something from nothing. It was matter from energy – the reverse of an atomic bomb.. Matter form energy (E = MC2) – Energy can not beomce aware – so it needed matter. Only matter can create the 5 senses = conscienseness. The "Big Bang" is a misnomer – noise. god= science= energy .


steve   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Mr. Mlodinow mentioned that in lab experiments that nothingness is unstable and that sometimes something came from nothing. So here is the question: Do the scientists in the lab represent the creator, since they set up the experiment, or do they represent nothing?


JonC   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

I had a solution to this problem back in the early 1960's ..... I explained the reason for the entire universe ........Then i took another hit, ate some guacamole and chips and cranked up Led Zepplein....and decide to let someone else figuer it out.....


victor soto   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

god did not create the universe but aliens created the humans!


Chad   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Where do thoughts and ideas come from?


Don K.   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

God is everywhere and is in everything. At twelve years of age a beautiful male voice woke me up. Repeating a name over and over, the voice took away a negative something from my body starting within my brain and out my limbs and down to my feet. Complete freedom and I was full of happiness. I asked is that you God but no answer. Never heard that voice again. Hopeful and getting older.

This is the short story....


Gail   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Thank you Larry this show was so great. I remember when I was in catholic school I would wonder. How could God always be and always was.


Eric   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

The topic of science being in one realm and religion being in the other keeps coming up. To that I say religious faith makes truth claims that are either true or false so to separate it from science or pit it against science does little justice for people of faith


Aldo N   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

GOD is real, there is a God. Humans can not duplicate ourselves, only God can create such complex systems. If you put all aspects of the human body, there is no way a human being can duplicate it or nature for that matter. The bible mentions about humans trying to question him. GOD IS FAITH!!!!


Sersia   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

I have questioned if there ever was a God and have attended many churches of different faiths, it has not ever answered my questions. I realize that I as a human being have to find what is truly in my heart and and treat people the way I want to be treated and do the best I can as a human being while here on this earth. I started to read the bible, and could not read any further because it did not answer my question " where did God come from?" I will read this book.


James Cannon   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

READ Hebrews 11:3 You will find that God framed the world so that things are not seen, so that things that are seen were not made
of things which do appear

Thank you,


Fritz Vilton   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Multi-verses another idiocy advance by bad scientists.


Jean, Toronto   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

It is better to believe than not to believe. Depak, do not wait for one day for one day may never come to make amends to God for yyur unbelief and type of teaching. THE TIME IS NOW! BELIEVE! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
This is a true story as related by Saint Augustine, told of a man, Genadius, who also had that question. He was praying continuously that God would solve his dilemma (of doubting God's existence). One day God sent an Angel to the foot of his bed, while he was fast asleep. The Angel asked, "Genadius, do you hear me?" "Yes, I hear you." Do you hear me with your ears?" "No, I am fast asleep. I do not know what I see you with." Genadius, are you speaking to me?" "Yes, I am speaking to you." "Are you speaking to me with your mouth?" No my mouth is closed, I do not know what I am speaking to you with." "Genadius, you heard me, you saw me, and you spoke to me with your immortal soul."

In the dream of Genadius he wrote "Learn that the flame of everlasting love doth burned eerily transformed. When then if such thy lack, thou seest thy judge. The sight of Him will kindle in Thy heart all tender, gracious, reverential thoughts. Thou wilt be sick with love and yearn for Him that One so sweet should ever have placed himself at disadvantage such as to be used so viley, by viley beings so vile as thee and thou will take and loathe thyself. For though now sinless, thou wilt feel that thou hast sinned as never thou didst see and will desire to sneak away and hide thee from His face and yet will have a longing eye to dwell within the beauty of His countenance and these two pains so counter and so keen, the longing for Him when thou seest Him not, the shame of self at thought of seeing Him will be thy various, sharpest pain.

If our Gospel is veiled, it is veiled for those who are perishing, in that, God hides His face from them that they will never understand who created the universe and all that is in it, all because of their denial of God and His existence.


Matt Fleming   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

To answer your question "Did God create the universe?" my answer is "No, He organized it." – to better understand the nature of my answer, turn to the King Follett Discourse. This whole idea of God, religion and creation is not as complex as we make it out to be. We only need to see a family with mother, father, and children to set the pattern for understanding the nature of God and the universe which we live in.


Gelle   September 10th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

If God didn't create the universe, then why a lot of creations are in order? From the galaxies to the living things and orbits?

The creator decided to remain mystery but can be felt everywhere.
There must be only one god, else they would have had conflict and separate their creations, leaving the universe in utter destruction.


Joshua Jones   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Robert Montague, Ph.D.,

You're arguing a negative. You cannot argue a negative. Special pleading doesn't establish more than the fact you share the tenets of religion.


Omar Chavez   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Did God create the universe? I DON'T KNOW!


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

the soul—the mind of man —the immortal spirit. Where did it come from? All learned men and doctors of divinity say that God created it in the beginning; but it is not so: the very idea lessens man in my estimation. I do not believe the doctrine – Joseph Smith


Melissa Bollea   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

I believe after all is discussed, it will remain to me that the most important piece of evidence that there is a God is simply.... WE EXIST.
I understand nothing else but I feel that Deepak Chopra is the best Spiritual teacher of our time. May God continue to bless you abundantly Deepak.


Tyler Sprague   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Please don't debate the existence of a Creator. Scientists don't have proof and neither does religion.

If you look at all the SCIENTIFIC evidence of the Earth being visited by other beings described in ancient text and pictures, in all logical reasoning, the "aliens" may have acted as Gods to give us universal messages and how-to's on surviving.

Maybe "they" can tell us more or maybe they have their own religion.


Susan B   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Science is man's way of discovering what God has already created
-My mom

Science and Religion are not mutually exclusive. God is a God of order. There are physical laws just like there are physical laws, cause and effect. It makes sense that there are physical laws that can be documented. Science is not the enemy of religion, they not only can, but MUST co-exist.


connoisseur of quanta   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Please ask the panel about Causal intent and it's relation to creation and what creates this intent?


Utsedh Kumar   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

If, today, we don't know exactly how universe started, it doesn't necessary mean God exist. We didn't know many things 50 yrs ago, very little 100 yrs ago. But we now know a lot and we will know even more in future, and possibly know the answer to ultimate question.


Kary H   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Anton. To follow your logic, something came from nothing that always existed, but it was really nothing until it became something! That is brilliant. Hawkings mind is even more twisted than his physical body. God is a jealous God. I understand Hawkings is angry with God for his physical body. I hope Mr. Hawkings gets rid of his bitterness and anger soon.


Lyn Cavataio   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

NO one has to tell us anything...We are the embodiment of the universe. No logic, no sense (s) just knowing. Go with-in, the fact of what and who we are is what simlpy fears us from "remembering"!!


David B Hardin, MD   September 10th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

considera God without time. God either set up the laws of physics or "is"the laws of physics then a universe could assemble itself yet still be within a divine sense


Wounded Healer   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Given all that we don't know..(humility 101), how more arrogant can one be than to remove God from the equation of the beginning of life, the universe, etc..
There is an old saying; "FOR THOSE WITH FAITH, NOT PROOF IS NECESSARY....FOR THOSE WITHOUT FAITH, NO PROOF IS SUFFICIENT."


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

We are all god our spirits join as one each time we die .


Hoda   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

The problem is the the accepted definition of "God" currently being used as the premise for this debate. If we ascribe locality, whether in space or time, to "God", then we will always arrive at the question "Who created God?". However, if we understand "God" as The Existential Reality, the Existential "Energy" so to speak, that IS and through "Whom" or "Which" Being occurs, then the questions of time, space, and a "localised" First Cause will no longer be applicable. Maybe then, Science will finally recognise its own share in Divinity, and Mysticism, it's share of Reality.


Graham   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

If human language embodies all that we earthlings know is it even enough to determine if we did not need God to create the Universe?


Chris Marku   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

I believe deep down God has something to do with the creation but that is just my belief i have no evidence. i think there was always something never nothing.


Fritz Vilton   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Ryan, the origin of God is irrelevant to Him creating Existence. Do you much about your great, great-grand parents, I doubt it.


cynthia williamson   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

While many things have Labels on them, to state who made them. God did not have to. There may be other places with life, but all will believe in a GOD.


Sanja Vellyn   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

I agree with Deepack, when he said belief is a sign of insecurity, and you have to KNOW God...I've learned that in Kabbalah, they start with "Do not beileve in what I say..."..you have to now. Belief has element of doubt.
I never evenbelieved in God and one day 10 year ago, I had experience and suddenly a knowledge – yes, there is a God, now i know there is.
I 100 agree with Stephen about nothingness – when we speak we create vibration that leads to energy...when nothingness is unstable it creates vibrations, energy..big bang..and here we are...no need for God...
We need God and that's another story...perhaps Gods were alien creatures who thought us many things and left us...


John Helton   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Larry

Can you imagine someone like a limited minded scientist thinking there is no God and that the Universe created it'self!!

This has to totally show the mentality and corroded mind of men.Especially those who think their limited intelligence can explain what they can't seel
They can't see the end of the universe and they can only see what is available. The rest is their ego and self gratification. Tell him I will believe science when science can create it's own dirt. Not from anything already available! ie God made


Alex Chan   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Why does one believe in God? There is a simple mathematic equation for this. Let the numbers in this chart represent the "value" or gain.
Believe Do not believe
God exists Infinite Negative infinity
God does not exist 0 0

If God existed, believing in him would grant one eternal life which would have infinite value. If one did not believe, they would be sent to hell which would have a negative infinity value.

If god did not exist, believing in God gives no gain and the same goes for not believing.

However, the average "value" calculated by believing would always be positive whether god existed or not. The average value for not believing would always be negative.

All this aside I am still an atheist.


Hannah   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Science is not an enemy to God. Pure science however, can not truly exist because man is imperfect. Theories are just that theories. How can a person build anything on something impure?


bolivar gonzalez   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

It is the human being in its anxiety to prove its own existance that has created God as an equation to partially explain its purpose and existance on planet earth. It is a form a therapy to alleviate anxiety in the absence of scientific explanations. God is the laws of nature, Mr Hawkins has explained what God is by utilizing laws of physics.


Rich Bishop   September 10th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Even using the the mathmatical models and the definitions of physics, as you all have defined, what precludes you to believe that all that we have experienced, seen, and determined is the sole interpretation of what exists in the universe? There may be many other similar universes/domains that we cannot see because we are not in the same time domain or integral construction as the previous galaxy that developed over the billions of years it took to create them.
There are forces in concentrations we do not yet understand that mature certain areas of the universe faster or slower, based on their outer surroundings, rather than the direct interpretation of physics.


James Leonard   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

God is beyond comprehension by mind and intellect. Powerful as they are, their scope is insufficient to contain Him. So the human mind is incapable of a true conception of God. The question who made God arises only because mind can not comprehend that which has neither beginning or end.


jim   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

Larry, come on. Look at the design of a butterfly's wings, spots on leopard our own internal organ system; heart, lungs, the bodies make-up.

How about our earth? The correct mix of oxygen, h2o and the way the world sits in the universe that a shift of the globe of a few miles could cause catastrophic disaster.

I mean, this didn't just happen by 'the big bang.' Get real Larry and loosen the suspenders baby.


Mike Oneil   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

Is it possibleto ask the panel if anyone of them has read the three books of Neale Donald Walsch called "conversations with God" and if so What do they think?


Darryl Lan   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

IF MY NEXT COMMENTS ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD, THEN NO EXPLANATION WILL SUFFICE;

IF THERE WAS A GOD, AS I UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF SAID "GOD", THEN MAN WOULD NEVER EXIST.
THE SIMPLE FACT THAT MAN, AND ALL THE THINGS WE SEE, ARE PRESENT - IS EVIDENCE, TO ME, THAT IF THERE IS A "GOD", IT ONLY DWELLS IN THE MIND OF MEN.

DARRYL LAN
KATY, TEXAS


Anthony   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

It all depends on what your perceptions of God are. The lower level of God that we are able to percieve or the higher level of God that is beyond the comprehension of the human mind. Have to go to Shrek for this. God is like a onion, there are many layers to the nature of God.
Star Wars: the force is what binds all together. A energy of creation that all can tap into as we are all part of this energy.
We exist at one of the lower levels of this energy.

This is not the first Universe. It has gone through many births and deaths. Each one on rebirth has evolved into a higher being. Just as man evolves. So does the energy we call God. God is the creative force {energy} that we all exist in and are part of.
For most trying to understand the true nature of that we call God is like trying to explain Quantum physics to a ant. It is beyond that which we can fully comprehend.
God and science go hand in hand. Just as birth and death go hand in hand for us.
Hawkins may be a scientist but he still wears blinders that so many do. Can't see the forrest for all the trees are in the way.
God shows us so many messages everyday in everything but most are just blind to it all.
Thou shalt not kill because when you do you kill a part of yourself.


Texas   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

The ancient Maya believed that the universe was composed of energy. Does the nothingness that Stephen Hawking refers to possess energy?


Jerry Pena   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

It's an absolute joke and not worthy of air time to try explain God and how He created everything – Including all of us! Stephen and everyone with the fancy talk will fall face down and worship Christ when he is face to face with His creator. God grants you each and every breath! God is beyond our little brains! I dont care how many degrees or letters behind your names! The bible says His thoughts are not our thoughts and his ways not our ways. God is and has always been. He cant be explained.


Raf (Oklahoma)   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

God created everything. By His design, creation was made to be understandable by his greatest creation – man. The only thing that we cannot have full clarity of is God himself, though we can understand his nature which is love.

God and science are not mutually exclusive, science is a gift of understanding that we were intended to have and develop.


Steve Nelson   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

Many of the mysteries of the past were explained by "God" until science figured them out. Are today's mysteries any different? It wasn't that long ago that lightening could only be explained by "God". If "God" really is a placeholder for "things we haven't figured out yet" then you end up with a concept that becomes increasingly unneccessary and irrelevant with every passing moment.


Omkar Dighe   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

How is 'nothing' defined? Does it mean no matter ? Or energy? Or power of the mind?

Question for any of the panelists.


Oaktree   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

Greetings,

Excellent program, thank you.

My question to the author's is what new finding(s) in our quest for the unified theory allowed them to postulate these claims now?

If I can add a more specific question in they theory, we know that the interaction between anitmatter and matter creates the energy which we see in the visibile universe. This clearly validates un inbalance in the anihilation equation, i.e. there is preference one way or another, matter and/or anitimatter. So if they claim that nothing "existed" before something then what is that missing factor to explain equality, even through the point of spontaneity?


Branden   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

In the last decade we have seen religion vs science debate getting more attention due to the expanding field of science. Science and technology continue to advance over the next few decades so where will that leave religion which claims to already have the answers to the universe?


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

The historical role of god has been diminished because of science! Hooray! no more living in the dark!

I love when I see people clinging to the god concept by saying that "well, god than must have put everything in place including gravity and evolution."

But, how about the fact that all the historical roles gods have played are no longer in use. We don't blame god for germs, plate tectonics, disease, weather, etc. unless your a loon or pat robertson!

What will we diminish the god role in say 100 years?


Jennifer   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

I certainly need more time to contemplate but thus far, The Grand Design confirms my spiritual beliefs that we are all part of the same thing, we are one with everything. If God in fact is the Universe rather than the creator of the universe then we are all part of God.


Trevor   September 10th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

God is an eternal being who created time and space. He is not governed by the laws of time and space and therefore does not require a point of origin.
However, the universe came into existance, we have a miracle on our hands. Do you believe that the miracle happend by itself for no reason? Or was there a miracle worker involved?


ishani   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Could the collective thoughts and prayers of all of humanity over all the time they have existed actually create a real entity, God


Ryan   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

exactly Anton I am atheist as well God was a creation of man to explain what they could not explain but as we progress in science and technology and we get the answer to question and god will slowly be forgotten and then not exist. And one day when we gone from this universe a new younger race will create God again And as they progress they will realize God never existed again


Susan B   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

That should say there are physical laws just like there are spiritual laws.


Dave Herrera   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Matter, Energy, Space, and Time would exist whether the word "God" was ever mentioned or not.


David   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

What about Wave Structure Matter? I do believe that that explains how the macro and micro worlds were creatated. The simple idea of this theory explains how there is a creator.


Uwakwe   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Larry, I was a believer that God never exits; I was a strong supporter of science explaining creation. The works of Stephen Hawkings and Darwin were of great influence on my thoughts. But, I want to tell the world now that Jesus Christ intervened in this malicious believe of mine, by making appearances to me and teaching me that God exits, and that He is the Heavenly FATHER; He created the universe. Man is miopic and foolish (as I was) when he doubts God's existence.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Gods spirit is the seed of life .


parham   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

what is M theory?


Karen Lawlor   September 10th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

God created the world out of invisible attributes.Bible proof test,Heb 11:3:"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear>"


Sheri Aakre   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

I think you have to have faith to believe in science that quantum theory of something can pop from nothingness into something.The scientists said it's been proven in a laboratory but a laboratory of man made testing and the same holds true for christians we have to believe and have faith that god created us.


everett   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

homo-erectus, homo-sapien, and now homo spiritus


Gilbert   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Hello Larry. You know, I can't believe there is actually a question about who created the universe. There is no doubt God created the Universe. How do you explain Nature? How do you explain the exploding beauty of mother earth. You no there are some questions that cannot be answered. Like why does the sun shine?


Fritz Vilton   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

FYI, none of us within this realm can fathom "nothingness". Your mind, your experiences, and senses prevent us from ever being able to experience "nothingness:.


Donald Sander   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

In terms of mathematics; If nothingness is zero, and something is one. 0 + X = 1. What is X?


Marlene   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Deepak, determinate existance explains failure. Creativity is there but our path may be determined thereby attempts not intended fail.


Shams Ali   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Had this notion existed that the Universe already existed at Time0 in the begining like every religion puts it, then It would seem that Religion did create God and Religion in turn is responsible for all the suffering and wars that exist in the world today.


ryan dru   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Our inability to fathom the complexities of the universe has always given rise to an onslaught of theories with and without logical reasoning. This debate is as old as the damn man itself. This mystery is ongoing, and will be for quite some time. Respect and love one another for the time being because there's a good chance whatever denomination, facet or lack of beliefs you might have, it's inherently flawed. We're all in this together. Trying not to kill one another along the way would be prudent.

By the way, great and relevant story. Things of actual substance are rare in our culture lately.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

The big bang is a crock .


Omar Chavez   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

God exists and his name is Stephen Hawking!


Pamela Souza   September 10th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Larry, Tell your guests to read "I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist" by Norman Geisler and Frank Turek. Every design needs a designer and every creation needs a creator. Human life is not a self creation from nothing.


Craig Warneke   September 10th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

I feel that the option for us to decide what we want to believe is a gift we all have as humans. If the Universe was created by a big bang, what is there to say that God used this action for the creation of this universe. I feel that the things that we are capable of understanding, including the nature of God, are limited to this universe only, and us as simple beings only have that available to us to make observations. Our universe: if there is a creater may only be as simple as a grain of sand and we may not have the intelligence or the necessary means to answer those questions


Linda   September 10th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

The theory of Evolution puts forth all types of speculation as it regards the creation of man along with the heavens and the Earth. However, irrespective of the proposals they make, they have absolutely no idea of the first cause. Every hypothesis they put forth is always based on existing materials of some kind; consequently, not having a proper foundation, their hypotheses are always wrong.
The phrase, “In the beginning God,” gives the first cause. That first cause is God.


Robert Bouchard   September 10th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

Physics is a model of reality built a mathematical language. Today, based on his model. Steven Hawking concluded that God is not needed. Models evolves with time. Who knows, someone in 50 years from now may give a totally different answer using his improved model.


Ted   September 10th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

From solid antimatter to electromagnetic radiation and everything in between traveling space and time from one state to the other, on average each of us humans last about 60 years , not much to brag about on the grand scale of things.


Pat Mazzeo   September 10th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

Listening to Spitzer reminds me of how arcane the "godists" are. We do not need a belief in a God to give meaning to out lives. Meaning in my life is in my social connections not in a metaphysics that is as primitive reflection of unknowing.


Darlene   September 10th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Larry,
Do you believe in God?


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

The First Principle of Man – Sels existance with God

The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with Himself, so that they might have one glory upon another, and all that knowledge, power, glory, and intelligence, which is requisite in order to save them in the world of spirits.


bolivar gonzalez   September 10th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

In relative terms, what are we in relation to the size of the universe, are we like viruses,bacterias or entities living in a litlle tini bubble of gas or a drop of magma floating in the universe, can we be measureds as beings in the arena of pico meters or nano meters in relationship to the vast size of the universe?


Dawn   September 10th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Thank you for a good laugh, I needed it Mr. Leo and Mr. Hawk

Yes there is a God....Good Luck on meeting him
JK
Dawn


yasin abdi   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

all the answers to those questions is islam. islam explains birth and how human beings are sperm to flesh


Ulysses McDowell   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Larry,

I watch Hitler documentaries all the time, but I certainly don't believe in what he was trying to do. Your guest just suggested that because I'm watching your show, i must believe in this or that? Wrong!!!

Ulysses


Joe B   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

If science is about explaining the world and universe and how it got here, then why deviate from "science" and state that the universe doesn't/didn't require God or a creator?

It seems that Hawkings book oversteps the bounds of science and enters into metaphysics and philosophy. Physics may explain how the laws of nature work, but how does that negate a creator? Couldn't a creator used the science and math that they postulate to create the universe? Does a creator have to work outside nature to be a creator? Couldn't a creator work within the structure created?

In the end, Mr. Hawkings is a brilliant individual, but he should stick with explaining the universe with math instead of postulating the existence or non-existence of a creator.


C Vedder   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Why all these comments about the status of being "human"?

Human evolution includes our non-human ancestors. Where is the dividing line? Any spiritual property of humans must belong to life itself; otherwise, a dividing line between humans and our primate ancestors would have to be drawn, and that line is impossible.

To speak of humans as an order of beings outside of evolution is a fallacy.


Fritz Vilton   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Remember, all these scientists are proposing theories; so don't put your faith in them. That guy Manillow or whatever is his name, said he could explain nothingness using quantum mathemathics, what a joke.


Luke   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

So Who Made God? only a liveing thing can make a liveing thing. not nothing makes something..


Jean McKinney   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

I believe in the God that created the Universe and everything in it. God spoke through His prophet, David, in Psalms 14:1 "The fool has said in his heart, There is not God - Hence I conclude that your guests who have authored a book that states the universe came into existence without the help of a Divine being, they are certainly fools in their beliefs. Jean


Shams Ali   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Soul? What is it. I think Soul is what Religions call is nothing but good nature, discipline and respect in onself for the other. THe question arises is there really a Soul in Mankind?, or is it just good nature in human beings.


MMaKieve   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

While I agree that it might be comforting for life to have meaning, I, personally, do not need a meaning to live a full, enriching, and moral life. When it is over, I'll return the borrowed chemistry back to the universe


Taylor   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

I think that it's incredibley egotistical for mankind to think that they have to be capable of understanding everything via a means they view as absolute, like science. Scientists have to be able to count on the absolutes in our physical laws to even conduct their experiments. Where do they think those absolutes come from?


Anjali   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

When we die our soul change into another form which matches the law of conservation of energy ( energy can not be created nor destroyed it can only change one form to another) life is nothing but energy, how many people die that many people born in this universe.


Justin   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

The is no GOD. In the judeo-Christian sense.

Free-will would not be possible.


jeff block   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

I believe that God being given credit for creation is a simplistic way of dealing with it by those who cannot explain it any other way.


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

jean from Toronto apparently does not know the philosophical precept called Pascal's Wager. If Jean did, he/she would have not posted the above post which just made me crack up. Here is hint, sorry to offend Jean but I suggest you read a book other than the bible!

A comedian once said "so and so says they read the bible all the time, which makes me think, it's 400 pages..finish the book!"


Karin Pozsogar   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

What an interesting, diverse panel!! And my take on it?: There still is no ABSOLUTE answer. So – just continue to believe whatever seems comfortable for your own peace. I will.


Karim   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Human being have an incessant desire for closure. It is my belief that God is the ultimate "closure" especially in the case where a scientific explanation has not been found.

Belief in God, on its own, especially when it allows one to have some form of closure, is OK. Non belief in God is OK too.

Lastly on determinism, given that there are infinite outcomes for all the large number of current state, then I would say that creativity, human emotion, thought, etc are actions that will result in one of the infinite "deterministic" end state.


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Intelligence Has No Creation

Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.


JT from NC   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

I believe this is the greatest problem with our society. We always have to separate everything. God and science are one. The more physics explains the universe the more we see the order of it. Even in its infinite chaos. The more I learn about science, the more it affirms my belief in the existence of a supreme creator and sustainer of the universe.


Ramesh   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

There is a Nepalese poet who said humans created God and then God created humans.


Jim Carroll   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

READ BORN OUT OF THE SUN BY JAMES M. CARROLL


Carol Smith   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

People who believe in the Big Bang theory should answer this question:

In what other circumstance does an explosion create order?

Also, the odds of human beings not having a creator is like saying a tornato flying over a junk yard and coming out on the other side with a flying 747 airplane.

Carol Smith


jerry lodynsky   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

A human body is physical realm. Each of our minds create dreams and other “realities” in dreams. When we dream there are various unseen experiences that are not part of our dreams but come and go within the dream. Suppose a greater intelligence has all our vast existence in mind. Close your eyes tightly, see the stars of the universe and recreate an imagined universe in mind. What’s to say we are not in the imagination of god where time is not existent. We have human evidence of the expansion of the universe in today’s microprocessors which have increase exponentially in a small amount of time.


Marie M.   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

With regard to "how can something come from nothing", this I feel is outside the realm of science. Science deals with what already is and researchs matter, molecules, cadavers, etc.
I feel that modern day scientists are not humanly capable of dealing with the "nothing'" aspect of science.
In Genesis it says "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was made flesh.


Jason K   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Larry, will you merntion Fr. Spitzer is former president of Gonzaga University? There are many of us on campus and in the Spokane area who are watching our former leader and would love to get some mentioning.


Ernie Brock   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

I wrote this poem after reading "A Brief History of Time" and I would very much like to share it with members of your panel and with the viewers:

A being that dwells in time and space,
I chart my course,
I set my clock,
I reckon the time it takes to race
From river's source
To tree or rock,

And all that I can comprehend
Must have a start, must have an end,
The concepts of my mind depend
On boundaries that do not bend.

I swim in a sea unknown to me,
A boundless main
Without a shore,
That sprung from a singularity,
A mass-packed grain
And nothing more.

One point, the origin of all,
Infinitesimally small,
Became the universe we call
The habitat of man et al.

What medium held that hot, dense dot?
What force compelled
It to expand?
Was something from nothingness begot?
By Naught impelled?
From no God's hand?

Beginnings always have "befores"
And endings always have "what mores?"
Beyond the limits of all lores
Lie mystic mists and countless doors.

We ponder but neither can conceive
That time could cease
Nor flow sans end.
Examining all that we believe
Our doubts increase,
Our doctrines rend.

Our universe of time and space
Cannot be thought of as a place
With crystal borders that encase
Reality in firm embrace.

Religion and science, when distilled
From gaudy rites
And smug conceits,
Produce oxymorons, dictums filled
With unseen sights,
Sincere deceits.

And herein lies our greatest hope:
That something lies beyond the scope
Of myth and lore, wherein we grope
And wait for heaven's door to ope.

Ernie Brock February, 1999


Dale   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Did God's musical sound current create all the Universes?


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.


tom wagner   September 10th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

I believe God created all these laws of Physics.
Including: Somerthing can be created from nothingness.


Quinton   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

I believe that these kinds of theories are interesting but I do not believe we should question other peoples ideas or religion as Stephen has.


kyle   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

You say God didn't create the universe let's say he did will you be able to say you are wrong,the only reason why you think the way you do is because you can not explain why God is life, and he creates life that scare you because you just don't know


Randy   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Yes! God did create the universe. Truth is not relative the perception of truth is relative. It doesn't matter if we believe something to be true or not true, it can still be true. Only the fool says in his heart there is no God...all nature declares God's existence.

May God bless you.


Rena Nanda Singh   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Larry!

What a group of intelligent men you have on your show tonight!!
Steven Hawking is exceptionally brilliant, Deepak is most humble with such a vast amount of intelligence...so are the rest of your panel, Father Spitzer and Leonard Mlodinow.

I hope GOD is kind to us in this Universe and allow us so much more discussions with this most intelligent panel about trying to decipher the Universe and trying to understand his creative work!

Thank you!


Cole   September 10th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Sure, people can believe in a "higher being" or a creator. I actually think it's plausible that we, as in life on Earth, could have been created - not by magical means, but by another far-superior life form. That is a stretch though. IT IS NOT GOD, though.

The real idiocy comes in when people are so brainwashed that they believe in ridiculous things like Adam and Eve, a talking snake, dinosaurs shaking hands with humans, and all these other laughable things. Believe in a god, sure, but throw those dumb freaking myths away. Goodness.

It is somewhat "respectable," oddly enough, how people can cling to their brainwashed beliefs.


Mariette Do-Nguyen   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

Stephen Hawking said, Science is complete, theology is uncertain is deadly wrong!

God is man made name for the almighty eternal supernatural power! The almighty eternal supernatural has no beginning and no ending. Human minds and physical bodies are operating by supernatural power. It meant all scientists minds are operating and under the control of the almighty eternal supernatural power. Supernatural power substances create human souls. Human souls generate lighter supernatural power for human minds and bodies functioning.


Ramez Saadeh   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

If we look at an atom in a microscope we see a nucleus with electrons moving in their own orbits around this nucleus. Is the solar system nothing more than an atom in this vast limitless universe. If true, could God be the scientist who is looking at us through his microscope?


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

thank you Jennifer, very well said. Simple and more right on than most of my ramblings and those others here! Bravo!


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

God was made by life .


Kumar   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

The concept of divine and God came into being by our parents putting the idea into evry child since birth. If parents had put the idea of physics and its laws instead of God, may this world would be lot less complicated and more logical.


lon e.   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

it was good ,not god, without good god isnt good enough.
also nothing is something


Isaac Crow   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

The SUN tells me, before the idea of god existed, there had to be, and was me. The SUN tells me, it's proof of the creativity of energy, and it is, an, living being, conscious existence, within definition all meaning.


diane stocker   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

i enjoy the banter between these fine brains...so the brain is what...how important is it to know for sure about anything...abe lincoln said your only as happy as you want to be...know what you want and leave the rest


Donald Sander   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

The first law of motion; Every body remains in a state of rest or uniform motion unless it is acted upon by an external unbalanced force.... Nothingness is a state of rest, there for an external force must have existed to create the universe from nothingness.


Amarilis   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

I was raised within a catholic family. However, I always knew there was something else beyond that religion... I think science, and spirituality are both connected... I believe that everything is in our mind, and everything is connected with the Universe, the divine, some sort of energy... like the air, we can't see it... but we can feel it.

Maybe God is just all of that.


Dan Bowlds   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

Dr. Mlodnow
With all due respect, you cannot already know that which you do not know. It is Arrogance, evil twin of Ignorance that you have mistaken for Knowledge!


Chad   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

John 1 In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was already with God in the beginning. 3 Everything came into existence through him. Not one thing that exists was made without him.

Intellegence begat thought, thought begat word, word begat manifestation.


Brandon   September 10th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

if science is always right, why cant you EXPLAIN THE QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT... Einstein himself couldnt explain it...
If science is so perfect why cant you bring humans back to life?? Why cant we reproduce using science... we cannot make human fluids such as blood with any liquid on the planet known to man, we cannot make brains or humans using science


thomas   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I am curious to how math and science will prove (Love) – There is evidence of Love across all religion / ethnic origin even animals but prove me the existence of Love.

I suspect you Love your science.

God is Love! so how do you say something was crated from it's own nothingness?


Wendy   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Yes, I believe in God! Look at the birth of a child, the tears we shed, the beauty of this earth. Science is possible because of God!


Hacin Sennoun   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

To our distinguished Scientists, I would say Please be humble - you give average Joe the impression that Physics understands everything - All I know is that if you find a Ferrari in the middle of a forest, you can give the forrest a trillion year BUT it will never came up with such engineering marvel. Be Humble please, we know nothing yet science wise - I will fully trust Physics the day it can tell me when the next huriicane or earthquaue will strike, or when it can describe mathematically something as simple as turbulence or transition flows (from laminar to turbulent).


Cindy Cottrelle   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Is belief in something that has not been proven worth all of the war and hostility that different religions create


Gina Lacava   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

The Jesuit Preist had said many times as a part of reasons for the existence of God is that the people have a need to know, a need to know who they are and where they came from. Have a need to know something does not argue that this "something" is true. I have a need to know that my father loved me, but that does not make it true.


Clif   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

For God to be creator, there must not be any proof that he exists or that he was in fact the creator,, hence faith-based religion. Also, there necessarily must be reasonable alternatives, thus creating the opportunity for choice. surely the physicist understands this. God has always been God. Religion wasn't established as a category until humans created other gods.


Björn   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Well science AND religion are both wrong. Clearly magic is the sole creator of the universe and elves shaped the landscape far before humans and dinosaurs arrived by spaceship.


barclay   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

god does not play games- depth of particle/matter size is infinite, period.


John A. Camarillo   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I find this conversation regarding GOD to be very short sighted. The universe physcially exists and apparenlty we are the only species that makes reference to a GOD – that I am aware of. How do we know that life as we understand it does not exist on other "planets"? And for those species that may exist on these other planets they might have NO concept of the word GOD. Its seems the human species needs to have a reason why we exist so we made up this rational as a means to justify the purpose for our existence. And becaue we have done so, we have decided its okay to wage war on others who do not agree with us. According to what I was taught in church we were told to love one another. God did not create religion – man did. Here we have the Catholic Priest and Deepak debating a subject where there will never be a right answer – only a presistent push of their religious view.


Sébastien L   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

God is, and has always been, the simple awnser to complicated questions.


barbhagan   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Absolutely! Having prayed to God as I understand Him and have received an anwser with a spiritual experience. Try to explain that


Nathan Lay   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I can't believe scientists could actually believe that the universe is deterministic. What the religious guests tried to say, was that should the universe be deterministic, then every single action can be determined in advance. This means that individuals are merely akin to clockwork. In that Universe, nobody is really an "individual" that is truly self aware or responsible for their choices or actions (as these were predetermined by deterministic physical laws).

I really believe that there must be some source of randomness that fuels are ability to be individual, to choose, to be truly responsible for our actions.


rickthetruth   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

These in deed are intelligent people but nobody excepting the fact that God always was and will be because he's in a complete different dimension then man a separate realm man indeed cannot inherit unless he takes on a form that can transcend back and forth into these different spheres. That why man can't understand the big-band theory. I'll be the first to say that the Big Bang theory is when God threw Satan out of heaven out of that dimension and the universe shows more evidence for a scorched earth theory of a war that took place rather than idea of man attempting to rationalize what he thinks because every man that ever lived on earth doesn't have the mental capability combined and is insufficient to conceive such totally what God's truly awesome power can achieve


Jeff Jokerst   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Yes, matter can be created out of nothing....but purpose cannot. Purpose is created from a perfect being. Only a perfect being can manage an eternal framework from which we came from


Chris   September 10th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Faith is nothing more then a group of people trying to explain their reality in a form they can understand. Physics explains reality in ways that encourage the brain to wonder even more.


Rhonda   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Larry King Said it Right
Im 34 yrs never been to church and I questions everything.
I've had a great life and I live it the best way I know how. I know right from wrong and try to be the best i can be every day for myself and at the end of the day I say a prayer just incase.
Im very open minded and want to know everything and do not want to be told to just think 1 way . I want to know all religions and all science can explain... I love my Life !!

Why cant everyone just be HAPPY and live the Best they Can......Lifes to short ya know .....;)


satnam   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

When there was nothing there was god. This is stated in Sukmani shabib, a Sikh scriptures
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Vic   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

why do some people do good and some do evil? how did we as people come to know the difference between good and evil?


Michael Armstrong Sr.   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Why because stuff happens .


Matt Fleming   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

I would hope that my absolute language would not be reason to excuse my comment. I simply mean to say that the answer to this question can be understood in a straight forward way. This need not a debate between science and religion. Science sees a part of the picture and helps to explain what's happening from our limited perspective (since the perspective from which our observations are made is clearly limited). Religion compliments it. The confusing part is that God's perspective is more inclusive than our own and so His laws, upon which many of these tough questions lie, can be explained only so much by science and our limited perspective.


Allen   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

The fact that we can actually have an intelligent, civil, and educated discussion about this on prime time television is a large step forward for our society.

Almost every religion in history was supplanted and relegated to being considered cute mythology at some point when science and knowledge advanced. The current religions will be no different. Their longevity in comparison to older editions is (ironically), a product of technology and science. Religious institutions ability to spread and ingrain their systems in people at younger ages has never been more easily accomplished via functions all the way from the printing press to the internet now.

The next evolutionary step for people is to free themselves from the fear of there being no higher being and (more importantly to most people on a personal level) no higher meaning other than the meaning they make for themselves via their actions and contributions to society and culture as a whole.


Andrew Carvalho   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Our Relation To God
All things whatsoever God in his infinite wisdom has seen fit and proper to reveal to us, while we are dwelling in mortality, in regard to our mortal bodies, are revealed to us in the abstract, and independent of affinity of this mortal tabernacle, but are revealed to our spirits precisely as though we had no bodies at all; and those revelations which will save our spirits will save our bodies. God reveals them to us in view of no eternal dissolution of the body, or tabernacle. Hence the responsibility, the awful responsibility, that rests upon us in relation to our dead; for all the spirits who have not obeyed the Gospel in the flesh must either obey it in the spirit or be damned.


john   September 10th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

It said clearly at the begining of the holy bible that the wrod was with god , so why must we debate thats already written ,


David - Manchester, NH   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

What "Law" of physics has not been proven wrong given time? We think we are so smart. Every theory is just that a theory until the next theory comes along.


Izzie   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

God is real. He created the universe. And I believe in Him
I feel bad about the fact that it will be too late when those scientits find out.
They will definitely meet Him someday.


Jessica   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

I am a Christian and I always will be I truly BELIEVE in GOD! There are so many things that scientist can not prove. Such as miracles! Like a baby being made! Look at the human body for an example your heart,lungs,brain it's amazing how all of that works while your alive but once you die your gone you can't be "rebuilt". Hasn't anyone noticed this world is crumbling away when years ago it was safe and "happy" and thats when people trusted and believed in GOD. Look now people are trying to disprove GOD and look whats happening it's slowly falling apart! My mother always told me never think to hard about where the universe came from or where GOD came from because someday we'll know the TRUE answer to that. No science out there can prove any thing. GOD is the creator and it says in the Bible he is!
For all of you who don't believe in God I will pray for you.
I will leave now by saying "GOD ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE"


Carla Cherry   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

My question is for Stephen Hawkins co-author. "How do you measure nothingness?" If the "static" in the form of radio waves is left over from the big bang, what do you have left over from the nothingness to measure that proves that there was no creator to create it (nothingness or the universe)?


bolivar gonzalez   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

God was created by the universe and the laws of physics and chemestry that created what we know as a human being, without a thinking human there is no God, when we die, God disappears because we cease to exist as a conscious being and there is no more production of ideas or brain activity.


Marlene   September 10th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

Larry, best show ever. haven't been this energized from a tv program since nova's m-set theory. Thank you.


Stephanie   September 10th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

Thanks to the two panelists, I will go to bed anxious and confused!
I'd like to hear more from Father, who oozes with love and peace and calm!


queridia   September 10th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

It's impossible to prove whether an intelligence created the cosmos, but it is possible to prove there is an intelligence involved in the human being's activities on this planet. It's been experienced in too many varieties, written about as a 'spirtual dimension' although it's probably more than that. Suggested: (William James; Emanuel Swedenborg, Robert Monroe, Joseph Chilton Pearce,Arnold Toynbee, etc) The 'mystery' is behind our science, there's, too much evidence for 'input' for this guidance to be disputed. The individual is where it is most likely to be evident, science has a problem with that level of events.


Gino Natividad   September 10th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

Did God create the universe yes or no? which answer requires greater faith?


Brett   September 10th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

How can you explain the intricacy of things as large as our universe while also understanding the complexities of a single cell?
You can argue that science proves these things, but in arguing science, how can you not introduce a higher being?
In the complexities that make us who we are and the world around us the way it is, how can you not ask if it's an intelligence and vein that far exceeds are own comprehension?


Diego Morales   September 10th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Albert Einstein: “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind”


IC   September 10th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Where did it all begin?

The Question: Could something come from nothing?
YES. The fact that there is a nothing, recognizes nothing is a something
Therefore, something can come from nothing.

Furthermore:
Nothing in its self is something.
Therefore something came from something.

Steve… what do you think?

What is Time zero?

The opposite of existence, I submit.


Manny Neto   September 10th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Hey DAN Z!! Michael Behe's "irreducible complexity" has been dis proven by the ENTIRE scientific community! Don't you know what happened in sept 2005 in the supreme court? This scares me that people disregard the facts in order to re-organize their "creation" beliefs. Scary. For starters, try Kenneth Miller's book "only a theory" He provides a great beginning to understand that the ID movement is simply a political/religious movement and is not science!


Scott   September 10th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

Fritz, please learn what a "scientific theory" is.


Andrew Wilson   September 10th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

Dear Mr: Larry King: That was a great TV show. Please interview people like these in future instead of moronic celebrities!


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

My curiosity of the universe lies when someone points out its end. The next curious observation then becomes, what is on the other side of that end..lol...caj


John Smith   September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (Quran 21:30)


Lt Trief   September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

Man created God to explain the universe!


lyle   September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

the concept of god was invented sometime between the pointed stick and the wheel to try to explain things that primitive man couldn't explain..the same as physicists try to explain the universe with math.


uni111   September 10th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

Everyone is going towards a side, either God made the universe or the universe was created from nothing. Why cant science and religion go together. Why cant we say in theory, that God put the nothing or what ever it is that supposedly made the universe and the "nothing" did the rest.


Lt Trief   September 10th, 2010 10:07 pm ET

Man created God to explain the Universe, not the other way around.


Wendy   September 10th, 2010 10:07 pm ET

as my dad has always said...if you can answer all of the why's and how's ........YOU WOULD BE GOD!


Samatic   September 10th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

I am sick and tired of the lies that religion spreads. Its time we all wake up and realize its just a hoax and their in it for the money.Science can explain it all so can time and evolution.

Heres something to think about if there was another Earth and their are living, thinking, beings on that planet, did god create them as well and do they know about god at all? I seriously doubt it!

We have to realize how far we've come with figuring all this out. It is a huge achievement in our human existence! Religion spreads hate and acts as a catalyst to wars and strife. To me all religion has now become irrelevant.


idkid   September 10th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

All thing that are said to Be
exist only in the world of Thought.
All Matter is Energy
and all Energy is brought
from the Mind's depth into reality.


Matt Fleming   September 10th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

Luke,
God's God made him. Think of the generations of a family. Now you understand... the part that's really confusing is that there was no beginning and there will be no end...


Melody   September 10th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

I'm exhausted trying to figure out what "nothing" is and how "nothing" became somehing.


Sam Badour   September 10th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

I am a scientist in biology and have had the opportunity to contact in person many well known scientists, mostly Nobel-prize Laureates. Most of them believe that GOD is the HYDROGEN atom. The Sun's, Moon's and Stars' lights are produced by Hydrogen molecules fusion. As a result of further fusions various elements are formed/ created as you may say, hence proteins, fats & carbohydrates, nucleic acids ...etc, exist to form the living cell that leads to tissues, organs and the living organism as humans. Such development is allowed to proceed in particular favorable environments. Again such environments are regulated by the elements produced by the hydrogen.


Barb Petersen   September 10th, 2010 10:10 pm ET

Interesting regarding the proof that there is a God is the fact of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is an historical fact. This does defy the realm of physics. Our Bible says what happened and that is that God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. If you read the New Testament you will see that Jesus Christ operated in a spiritual realm and at times defied natural laws with His miracles.

There is a God, there is an eternity, (life after death) and to be ready for eternity is to accept that there is a way back to God and that way is through Jesus Christ. God loves you and made a way for you to come back to Him. He says if you seek Him with all of your heart you will find Him. If you don't know what else to do, start by talking to Him and ask Him to show you that He is real. I did and He did. God bless you!


Hilary Noble   September 10th, 2010 10:10 pm ET

One of the best shows I have seen on television. Thought-provoking, civilized, intelligent discourse about some of the most important questions ever asked. Please do more like this.


Nabeel   September 10th, 2010 10:13 pm ET

Can anyone think about this, if a person is saying God exists, does that implicitly not say that if such a thing as God does exist then the abilities and powers of God supercede all known logic and physics.

What we understand from science is that certain things have laws, laws that govern how and why certain things happen in real life, a simple law such as one of newtons law "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction".

If a person who acknowledges that science is fact, which it is, and maintains that God exists, someone may question well then how does the world rotate, a woman give birth, a child barely misses getting hit by a car, an atom gets split, a star goes nova, all at the same time? How does your science explain that about God, how does God have the time to do that all at once?

What we have here is a problem of the Human brain trying to wrap its head around a concept, around a possibility (POSSIBILITY, NOT FACT), that things can occur that science cannot explain.

From all the science man has discovered, learned from, theorized today, there has been one consistency, that there are laws that govern certain or ALL things known to man that explain the known universe (space, planets, the earth, oceans, atoms, quarks, superstring theory) and everything contained within it, certain things have to happen in order for something else to follow along.

However if we use God in any argument, that is implicitly stating that God is a higher power, if God has created everything, God has the ability to supercede those laws that we know of thru science, which by the way God, has created. God would be able to have something exist in two places at the same time, God would be able to be in several places at the same time protecting some, watching some, splitting atoms, colliding stars, moving universes.

How hard is it to say yes, Science is just as imporant, it gives us understanding of all of Gods creation, if we do not question what created us, the origin of creation, the nature of God, how will we learn anything?


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 10:14 pm ET

Lt Trief

How long will we have to wait for the answer?..caj


Larry from Rialto   September 10th, 2010 10:14 pm ET

With all due respect, do we reach for truth or is debatable, marketable speculation what we are now reduced to? Mr. Hawking cannot explain or refute the creation of the universe, because his determinations are theories, and nothing more; with all due respect. Oh ,yes, the answer to your question is YES!, GOD created the universe. WHY did HE create the universe? Sovereign choice and design is the reason. Can Mr. Hawking explain the railroad size car on top of Mt. Ararat? How about the countless pieces of confirmed artifacts (including whole cities) that attest to the presence of the Living GOD? Please explain, Mr. Hawking, I will be glad to listen. We postulate concerning the beginning, what about the end? So many are eating the speculations of Mr. Hawking, what about actually hearing what the Bible has to say? It has a good ending for all that really want to know how THE END of all this turns out. This is not a another theory. With all due respect, Larry Pate


Jonathan   September 10th, 2010 10:15 pm ET

The Holy Bible. It is God's perfect revelation to man. Anyone can have the free will to deny that. I pity them. But believing is not good enough either. It is experiencing the sanctification of God's Holy Spirit that believing in Jesus Christ, who had become the Son of God in flesh, but always was the eternal Creator. It is experiencing/Relationship with God. Not just belief. Of course the Belief comes first. No other religon can claim to experience God, except through abiding in the principles of his Holy Spirit, according to the Bible. No one knows the things of God but the Spirit of God through a repentent heart. NOT with our own LOGIC!!!! Forget it!!!!


Joel Weiss   September 10th, 2010 10:15 pm ET

Believe what you believe as I will believe what I believe, but don't hate me if I believe something different from you. If you do than you must hate yourself.


Linda McMllan   September 10th, 2010 10:16 pm ET

The Stephen Hawkins program/discussion is by far one of the most interesting programs that I have ever seen on television. Hope you have this group back again soon. Good work!


art molenkamp   September 10th, 2010 10:16 pm ET

I wish physics could enable us to get rid of Donald Trump's

ugly smirk, when he speaks about solving "ground zero"

problem with his money!!

Let nobody interfere with the plans to build this mosque,

2 blocks away from the American obsession.


Pierre A.D.T.   September 10th, 2010 10:17 pm ET

I am not supprised by Dr. Stephen Hawking. However, I humbly say that Mr. Hawking's experience was simply an observation of the freedom of will of the Universe. Thus, Universe has a soul and a form just like we do as people. Quantum physics and Quantum Mechanic are tools meet to help the Human to understand oneself, and purposes. We still have ton of discovering to do because a soul does not come from earth, but rather from far gallaxies that takes billions of light years. We are free to limit our understanding to Dr. Stephen Hawking's observation or we can do the right things. Never forget that the Univers, Life and GOD work hand in hand. They proudly respect each other. I am sure that Dr. Hawking answer to a question prior to his observation was not a complete yes. That is all we can say at this time. Thanks.


Belle   September 10th, 2010 10:17 pm ET

Mr. Hawking is a very smart man to say the least. But what a waste of intelligence when he only believes in the sciences. Who created science...I find it a lot harder to believe that the universe happened by any means other than by being created by an infinite God than take Gods' word when He said that ' In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.' Enough for me!


Gordon   September 10th, 2010 10:18 pm ET

Conciousness can be answered by physics. This concept is based on "reality gains reason". Our reality gives us reason to do the things we do. If God does have a part in our creation in this universe it has not yet become a proven "reality" for human kind. Therefore we do not understand the "reason".

Why do we exist?
Where did everything come from?

etc etc


Larry from Rialto   September 10th, 2010 10:18 pm ET

To Mr Michael Armstrong Sr., the chicken came first... Now you can rest.


tom   September 10th, 2010 10:19 pm ET

well if u scientist would read the bible it plainly states that God created man in the image of himself. So if we have a reaction that is happy, im sure it is capable due to us having that built in us from him. Im sorry but living object dont come from nothing without a creator. And since were talking about the universe, I would say that you so called genious scientist will know exactly how it would feel to be standing on a star when you are in hell burning(being that a star is a planet that no longer lives and is burning out or something to that effect), I believe in God and his creations. Faith is something we choose to have in him not something we dont believe. I pity your ignorance towards someone who gave you life that you try to miserate for the rest of us. Dont get me wrong some scientist do wonderful things. err i could go on for hours.


Chris   September 10th, 2010 10:19 pm ET

Samatic... I agree with you. Lets start by taking away their tax free status. Religion creates elitism and therefore hate and intolerence under the disquise and false promise of peace. It's just another way to control people, gain power and make money.


Jonathan   September 10th, 2010 10:20 pm ET

Anyone can say I believe. I believe Tylenol can heal my headache, but not take it. What good would that do???But it is until I take it for myself, to experience the pill. That is our purpose in this Universe, to experience the grace of Jesus Christ. To prepare for his second coming. Everything is in the process of being fullfilled in his Word. Satan the devil is working in man's hearts in the unseen to sway us from that.


Kim C.   September 10th, 2010 10:20 pm ET

On the contrary, I believe that Stephen Hawking,unknowingly has proven that God created the universe. God is, whom Stephen calls "nothing." If the quantum theory which is based on the fact that electrons are the source for the existence of energy and matter in the universe, then I believe that this confirms that God created the heavens and the earth. In Genesis 1, it states that, "and God said, let there be LIGHT." Light is the nothing, that Stephen is describing, but it is also energy. God allowed his LIGHT (Stephen Hawking's nothing) to infiltrate the universe for the creation of the Heavens and the Earth. According to Einstein's theory of realitivity, energy can become matter and matter can become energy. Light is quanta. Stephen says that time doesn't have the same relevency that it had when the universe was formed. I agree. The Bible says, "that one thousand years is but one day in the sight of the Lord." According to Einsteins theory of relativity, if matter speeds up to the speed of light which is 300,000 km/sec, then matter becomes energy. Since this can be mathematically proven, then I believe that if we could travel at the speed of light we would become a spirit or light energy – that's why people believe in life after death. Their spirits leave their bodies and will travel to where time will be no more. God is a Spirit. Everything in the universe is either matter or energy; they are interchangable. Energy is made only possible by the action of electrons. Electrons are one of the subatomic particles which make up matter that are responsible for light, energy, magnetism, electricity, and chemical bonding. So how can these two scientists believe in the quantum theory theory call electron, "nothing." Where did the electrons or Energy come from to begin with that caused the energy to become light, that caused the light to become matter?


Durelle Freeman   September 10th, 2010 10:21 pm ET

Why can't we have these three men as anchormen on CNN?


Tamara   September 10th, 2010 10:21 pm ET

We are all God's Thoughts!!!!!


Sami Kassis   September 10th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

Yes God created the universe. There's elements and there's material. Material they have end and they will not last forever, you can see them and touch them, but elements you can't catch or limit or understand the beginning and end of them, the same is God and this is what the bible speak about God to Him all the glory, we waste our time and life by studding and wondering how God did this and that, how this it can be, instead we should educate our self structured on wisdom as those greatest ever kings that the Bible speaks about.
Everything in the creation show and speak by it self about the power and the Glory of the Lord. Elements such as Water, Fire, and Air it perform and prove that there's God and He is the one who created every thing and without Him nothing came into being, as the Bible said in the book of John chapter 1.
None of us can reject to breath, when God created Adam the bible said God took Adam and breath in his noise His spirit then Adam became living being and that's why we all breath from our noise, we breath air that's not material.
The bible speaks a lot about air, water and fire that is a reason for life and that's why we are alive and we live on earth.
How can we understand who is God since we are very limited, if there's no limit for those elements that God Him self created how can we as a limited human being try to understand Him???
* ( Story ) Once upon a time there were a king walking on the sea shore and wondering about who is God, do He sleep, eat, look like us, etc, while he was thinking and wondering with all many questions going on in his mind, he saw a child playing, he made a hole in the send and he had a bucket, the child was running back and forth from the hole to the sea to get water to fill the hole with water, but the king saw that the hole is full and the water running back to the sea and the child still running to the sea to get water to fill the hole and the child got so tired. The king wondered and said to the that child what are you doing you look so tired, the child responded I want to fill the sea in the hole that I made, the king reply you crazy stop wasting your time you look so tired you can't fill the sea in that hole, then that child's face turned into angel look and shined he looked at the king and said to Him how then you want to understand how God created this whole universe, and the child disappeared.
I give the all glory to the name over all names the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.


Durelle Freeman   September 10th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

God Is the Universe – created from God's own reality


Sam Badour   September 10th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

I am a scientist in biology and have had the opportunity to contact in person many well known scientists, some are Nobel-prize Laureates. Most of them believe that GOD is the HYDROGEN atom. The Sun's, Moon's and Stars' lights are produced by Hydrogen molecules fusion. As a result of further fusions various elements are formed, which create as you may say, proteins, fats & carbohydrates, nucleic acids ...etc, and these form the living cell that grows and divides to build tissues, organs and the living organism as humans. Such development is allowed to proceed in particular favorable environments. Again such environments are regulated by the elements produced by the hydrogen atoms' fusion.


ANGEL   September 10th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

a car moving do we call it time or transidental


Todd Mitchell   September 10th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

It is refreshing hearing people of different belief systems being able to communicate about their differences without it desolving into some type of personal attack. The comment I would like to add is based on the limitation of the physical world; equations that are based on physical properties will never be able to "prove" if God is real or not. In fact, God can not be proven at all, HE can only be experienced. Once a person has an experience with God the need for proof is no longer needed. Only people who have not had an experience with God need proof of HIm. Also, it is important to remember that those people who believe in God may not have had an experience with God yet either: rather they may believe in him based on an intellectial position and not based on an actually experience of HIm. Once a person has a experience with God belief is replaced with Knowing. Futhermore, those people who have had a personal experience with God should keep in mind that all people can only know what they have experienced. So, if a person has not yet had an experience with God how can we expect them to have a differnet viewpoint than what they have. Remeber, God cannot be proven, only experienced!


Dee   September 10th, 2010 10:25 pm ET

When my father died in 1994, I was not at home to help him that morning. He collapsed on our front porch, and by the time I'd returned home later that morning, he had already been taken in an ambulance to the hospital and there pronounced dead..
We had a close relationship, and I felt so badly, thinking that had I just been there, I might have been able to give him CPR and save his life.
I went to bed that night in grief and with these sorry thoughts.
The next morning, before opening my eyes to awaken, I remember seeing a bright light. It may have been a dream, but then I awakened with a thought .....the word "cufflinks" was in my mind..
I went downstairs and asked my mother if someone had taken Dad's clothes to the undertaker, and she told me that "yes, Dennis did," Dennis is my brother. I then asked her if he had taken Dad's cufflinks.along with the other articles. Dad dressed up, as did many men of that generation, when he had a special occasion to take our Mother, and he owned a few pairs of cufflinks.
Mom said that she thought so, but she'd ask Dennis when he came home from work..
When Dennis came somewhat later, I was upstairs, but I heard my Mother ask him if he'd taken all of Dad's belongings to the funeral home. He said he had. Then she asked, "Did you remember his cufflinks?" He slapped his forehead .....no that was something he hadn't taken there.
My father knew this from where he was. And he gave me a great gift. I knew that he was there. Funny thing too, because my Dad was not the most religious person and sometimes would ask my mother, "Do you think there really is a heaven?'


pcn   September 10th, 2010 10:26 pm ET

The real challenge of physics in addressing this question of "Grand Design" is two fold. 1) something created from nothing. 2) absolute precision emerging from absolute randomness. These questions are unanswerable empirically, or through scientific resolve, yet we know they do have a answer because we live in the answer. Subsequently, the answers to these ultimate questions must move beyond mathematical functions and the most intricate equations of physics, and must move into the metaphysical–the realm of God. That there is something, and that there is absolute precision is not best explained by science, but by God.


ANGEL   September 10th, 2010 10:27 pm ET

don't color us SCIENCE, color us understanding


eric   September 10th, 2010 10:28 pm ET

Science is not bias. It proves or disproves the lies of humanity in religion. Science is however, limited to the human mind. We have proven a big bang, now let us find what created that bang. Statements made by brilliant minds, stimulate debate which drive us to new heights.


Brahm Bhardwaj   September 10th, 2010 10:32 pm ET

GOd, Time and Universe cannot be discussed/debated.
There is beginning of every thing. But nobody cannot imagine beginning of time and universe. Since time and universe, we know, do exist, so there is a possibility that God does exist. We cannot debate how the universe came into being and then what was there before the universe.


Scott   September 10th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Joshua 10:12-13
"Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day."

The sun doesn't move, so it can't be halted.

1 Chronicles 16:30
tremble before him, all earth; yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.

Psalms 93:1
"The Lord reigns; he is robbed in majesty; the lord is robbed, he is girded with strength. Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved."

Psalms 96:10
"Say among the nations, "The Lord reigns! Yea, the world is established, it shall never be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity."

The earth does move.

Job 28:24
"For he looks to the ends of the earth, and sees everything under the heavens."

The earth is round, not flat. So you cannot see it all from any one given point.


hayat   September 10th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Read Koran. Everything you need is in Koran


John H   September 10th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Professor Hawking suffers from a terrible debilitating disease where the only thing he has left to depend upon is his mind. It is not surprising that he would be angry at his circumstances. I can't say that because of his anger (my word here not his) he is using his mind to strike back at whoever or whatever is responsible for his suffering. The Laws of Physics that he and his coauthor continue to site are something although they may not be touchable or visible. Where exactly did these laws originate. Another accident of the natural Universe which seems to be their explanation for everything else. I sorry but I just do not buy their explantion that out of nothing comes something. He and Doctor Hawking limit themselves to what they can see and measure and therefore do not allow them to think any further then their scientific explanation for everything. I, on the other hand, believe that what we know of the Universe did not just occur naturally over billions or trillions of years but that there is an entity that does not exist in accordance with our understanding of the Laws of Physics. God is a being that is not restricted to a beginning or an end as we are. This is a meaningless concept for one so powerful as to have created the Universe and all that is contained in it. His existence is all I need to know that he is and that he alone is responsible for all the mysteries we are confronted with throughout our lives. You can choose to believe that there is no God and therefore no hope or reason for being or you can believe in God and know that there is something greater than our ability to imagine and that fortunately for us, he kind of likes us and wishes us well. To each his own I guess. I believe God gave us all a mind and the ability to think freely and Mr. Hawking is merely using the gift that God gave him. None of us live forever so eventually, Mr Hawking and those who deny God and those such as myself who truely believe will soon be faced with the ultimate truth and then the debate will end.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 10:35 pm ET

The peace and deliverance that will become apparent and necessary when the discovery of God's gravesite is uncovered...and it is empty..caj


Angie Hunt   September 10th, 2010 10:39 pm ET

Best show we have seen a a long time. Three brilliant minds not talking over each other and actually listening to each other.


idita vargas   September 10th, 2010 10:41 pm ET

As far as I know science is a way of acquiring knowledge of the physical world by definition. Science is not a means by itself, it is a tool for acquiring knowledge. I think that God is love and that the creation of the universe is a manifestation of God (Love) The only thing that can come out of nothing is Love (God). Science does not exclude God, only scientists do.


taina thomassini   September 10th, 2010 10:43 pm ET

larry, it is beyond craziness to try to understand the universe and its contents, even more to physically prove the existence of God. But like me, i think everyone of us should adopt those two citations of Voltaire:
" the world embarrasses me, i can not think – what are the clock and has no watchmaker."

" if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 10:47 pm ET

Congrats Larry King...with this show you are going out with a BIG BANG..and that's not theory...but oh! so relative..lol ...caj


A Disciple for God   September 10th, 2010 10:48 pm ET

An analogy about "Did God create the Universe?" Scientists and physicsists both agree that the world we live in and our universe came into existence from the "Big Bang Theory." Before the Big Bang Theory there was nothing. Scientists and physicists alike refuse to go into detail about the "nothingness" that existed before the Big Bang and claim that the Big Bang just happen because of gravitational laws and scientific actions of the universe.But the question is what caused those gravitational or scientific actions to start? Take a tree for example, which will represent our (planet and universe), and then take the seed from which that tree came into existence from. The seed represents the "Big Bang Theory." The process that causes a tree to be produced from a seed is called germination. Germination represents the (scientific actions and gravitational laws), physicists and scientists claimed started the Big Bang Theory. Beginning from nothingness-> a farmer has to physically put a seed in the ground; then water it and provide it with sunlight in order for the germination process to occur, will result in that seed becoming a tree. The farmer I am referring to is GOD. GOD started those scientific actions and gravitational laws that made the Big Bang Theory occur which resulted in the universe and our planet existing today. Without the farmer (GOD) planting the seed( Big Bang Theory) in the ground and watering it and providing it with sunlight, which caused germination (scientific actions & gravitational laws) to occur, this resulted a tree (planet and universe). Yes God did create the Universe. Don't be a fool! Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.


ckelly   September 10th, 2010 10:50 pm ET

Loved the show Larry!!! You will be missed when you leave later this year-You do a great job interviewing scientists and the clergy, while being mindful of your viewers!:)

I am looking forward to reading Stephen Hawking's book and I appreciated the earlier article on your site sharing the poem by Mattie Stepanek-its a wonderful accompaniment.

The elegance of physics and mathematics is akin to the truth and beauty we see and hear in the arts or inspirational writing, or art , or music or seeing the mountains, swimming in the ocean, a child's birth ......In these experiences we can be present while being with other and reconciling the experience to our selves and creating a world view.

In these times, we are truly present and fully exerting our fullness into the activity. I experience and understand my consciousness as both a demention of the material and observable, and also a subjective experience, the truly undescribable (the imagination and all its potential). Together (and all in between) this just "is" what the experience means to me on different levels-my own personal integration, living with others and their integration in a complex world.

For me God exists, is present everywhere as much as I can or can not see, observe or not observe, hear or not hear,-I feel blessed to experience this and the Creator.

Thanks to you for a great show, and guest panel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They were all inspirational to me whether I personally lean toward determinism or freewill or both.


john r. jhnson   September 10th, 2010 10:50 pm ET

I think what I take away from the show , more than anything else, is how silly the whole notion is that God created man in the image of himself. God must be in a constant state of quandary if he put man on earth to ponder the deep realities of our existence.


heidi   September 10th, 2010 10:54 pm ET

with all due respect to logic, why do humans crave creativity almost for survival? we also crave knowledge, nature seems to not desire creativity
or knowledge it just mysteriously produces intense creativity and seems to be designed with never ending knowledge.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 10:55 pm ET

ANGEL...We call that car an invention..this answer applies to that invention of the unknown...what a demon or genius it was to invent a God...caj


Hollee Farmer   September 10th, 2010 10:57 pm ET

ABSOLUTELY!
Deepak Chopra:
Saw you on Larry King Live and when you said, "God is not only the Creator but has become His Creation," you spoke the simple and highest Truth.

Congratulations and thank-you! I noticed the total gasp from everybody else on screen and how quickly they cut you off and went to something else.

You spoke the Truth.

I am a long time devotee of Gurumayi and practice Siddha Yoga through years of meditation and study, especially of Kashmir Shaivism. I know the truth through personal experience.

PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS COMMENT. Thank you.


Alice Love   September 10th, 2010 10:57 pm ET

How can one not believe that GOD doesn't existence, however if the body is only a vessel then where did the breath that one breath in and out come from. Hello, that's part of what the creator has blessed us all with. We are worlds of our own the same as planets exits so does the world in each one of us. I believe that GOD has ordained man with the gift of living a new world each and everyday only through faith and prayer. Each day is a new day and we are to make it out of what we want. Yes we are a seed and through spiritual growth can we take a step up to each level that the creator has granted us. The conscience is only a state of a glimpse of death itself when we are in the state of sleep. When one awakes he has been blessed with a new day born into a new world what we do with the time granted us is up to each individual. Rest assure that though prayer fasting and faith in God do we learn to find him. God is LOVE and LOVE is where GOD dwells. We first must learn to LOVE even our worst enemies and continue to spread that love like a wild fire, only then can we experience whether he is real or not. If you live your life as each day is a new life birthed into the world we will find that we all have been here more than one can count.The universe holds secrets to mans existence and the key dwells in FORGIVENESS, REPENTANCE, and LOVE for the human race. Hard to do, but it is the key to finding God and allowing him to speak to you not only though the mind of self but though others and the air we breath.


eric   September 10th, 2010 11:02 pm ET

What happens if science actually proves GOD doesn't exist? What would society be like? Only the strong survive?? do you really want to live in that world?


sydney bailey   September 10th, 2010 11:04 pm ET

Great show tonight-enjoyed every minute BUT I feel science(pysics,math,etc) answers the question "HOW"? and religion answers the question "WHY"? With this distinction in terms I feel it is easier to understand that science will eventually answer ALL the how's but can never answer the why's.


Kelly Chaya   September 10th, 2010 11:06 pm ET

Energy, vibration and frequency in different level. low of attraction and the hologram is the anwser. we are all connected by energy we need to be open and share the positive energy that we call it GOD.


viri   September 10th, 2010 11:07 pm ET

Does God exist?... This question should be ask to God... Not to be asked to a scientist Neither a religious person. About who we are debating for? Common sense.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 11:08 pm ET

@eric

Good point, but in consideration of the millions that died in the name of reverence for the UNKNOWN cannot be much worse..maybe rather peaceful appeasement to the right temporal lobe..caj


eric   September 10th, 2010 11:09 pm ET

Jonh H, you hit on it well, one way or another, when we die, we will find out the truth.


Chris   September 10th, 2010 11:11 pm ET

Yes Larry... this one was great! Thats to you and the guests and all of the folks who made comments posted on your Blog. I really enjoyed all of it. Thanks All. Peace


Bill Watson   September 10th, 2010 11:13 pm ET

It may be more relevant to ask why people can love and hate, and why love is universally regarded as the greater force.


Chris   September 10th, 2010 11:18 pm ET

To answer Eric...If science proves there is no God nothing will happen. We will all go on in the way we choose. God exists in the heart, mind and soul of the faithful. Those who have no faith do just fine thanks.


Alexander Supertramp   September 10th, 2010 11:20 pm ET

Questions about ultimate reality is the realm of metaphysics.

Physical science deals with phenomenon; the appearance of things to our senses.

This is why scientists always describe things in terms of observation.

Taking a strong stance in a metaphysical sense of what those observations are of is not something science even tries accomplish. So physical science does not even deal with questions about ultimate reality.

Also in science, you can only falsify with a null hypothesis. Saying "proving something to be true doesn't make any sense in science.


liam madigan   September 10th, 2010 11:20 pm ET

i believe some sort of god created the universe, however i feel a lot of the information was lost in translation in the last 2000 years. the 2 choices we have is to believe in god or science, but each wants you to have some sort of faith. scientists say for example: these fossils are 450 million years old because we have done research, but they cannot prove this ultimately, its a guess lets say, we have to choose to believe in them. as for religion they say this is our god, however there are several religions each with different versions and they to ask us to have faith and take their word because it has been researched through old testaments etc. my point is i believe in both and like most people would prefer to see some proof, maybe what was lost in translation 2000 years ago was the word that brought both beliefs together that no one truly understands but must use true faith, screliengonce......not sure how to pronounce it but its the words science and religion together, then we just might get the answer we are looking for....and for the record i have brains and hair like Einstein but also compassion and love like Christ.


Stephanie   September 10th, 2010 11:21 pm ET

Whether God exists or does not exist..Many a life has been saved from sinking into complete insanity because of a belief of something greater than oneself! Perhaps these gentlemen have never experienced the loving hand of that power...for that I am saddened, but hopeful that one day Stephen will finally be able to put his mind to rest! I admire the intelligence of the two men on the panel, however I yearn to have the wisdom and gentleness of the Father.


romeo c.kintanar   September 10th, 2010 11:22 pm ET

with due respect to Mr. Stephen Hawkins and Leonard M? thier observations is based on history of our time.
in my opinion the BOTTOM LINE of thier IDEAS is SELLING
i shall sincerly request them to continue thier restless work and write it for FREE(let some non-profit organization to do the printing),so that MONETARY considerations will not be the MAIN purpose at the expense of our CREATOR


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 11:28 pm ET

@sydney bailey

Shouldn't the why just be considered an idle curiosity without an answer really being required or necessary?


Cajazz76:24:8   September 10th, 2010 11:39 pm ET

romeo c. kintanar

How much expense has your Creator cost you?..caj


Chris   September 10th, 2010 11:39 pm ET

Love and Peace is not exclusive to those of some faith. It is a trait of the human race and... With all the different types of faith in the world over the centuries looking for supremacy and killing innocent people to further their belief really makes me wonder if there could have been a better way to confront our reality.


Jean   September 10th, 2010 11:40 pm ET

In response to the question...”Do you believe that something came from nothing and if so ‘How?’”, I give a mirrored question...”Do you believe that GOD came from nothing and if so ‘How?’”. If your answer is that GOD “is, was and always has been” then I respond that
“nothingness” (or whatever “nothingness” could be) – is, was and always has been.
Can a “Believer of God” understand that to a “Non-Believer” the explanation of GOD has been defined differently by different human beings from different cultures and through different languages and translations as well as from different time periods; That does not even address the "Individual Interpretations" made throughout all of human existence.


roisoleil   September 10th, 2010 11:45 pm ET

Am onside with Nathan Lay.

I am truly surprised if Hawkings and the Cal Tech Physicist have concluded that we live in a deterministic universe. I have not yet read their book but I assume they must have rejected Heisenberg/Bohr Uncertainty Principle in favour of the Minimalist / Reductionist
"probability distribution" model of quantum physics. That being the case, they have, although he failed to take them up on it, given a strong card for the catholic priest to play.

As a catholic I'll play it for him. If we live in a pre-determined universe with no free will and every action we take is merely the outcome of the forces acting upon us from the immediate past then why should we feel any guilt or be held accountable for any of our actions no matter how heinous our crimes? We couldn't help ourselves. We were predestined to take those actions and had no free will in the matter.

In a universe with no choice there can be no morality. Why should there be any laws or punishments, why should anyone care? The World's motto should be the Beatles' Tune "Let it Be" b/c no law, religion, consicence or sense of personal responsibility or civic duty is going to have any net effect positive or negative on the outcome of anything that is destined to happen.

No, I think they made a critical error, god must exist and there must be free will or else there is no basis for law and I should quit the Bar and stop practising altogether because there is no point anyway. There is no point to anything.


Liana   September 10th, 2010 11:46 pm ET

interesting to read all comments... funny how we, as human beings, feel this giant need to believe in God. It is hard for us to conceive the idea that maybe he really doesn't exist or have anything to do with the creation of the universe. I understand this need... we created God as a coping mechanism... life is too hard and we cannot begin to understand why we are here. So, let's believe in this superior creator and life becomes a lot easier to live.


heidi   September 10th, 2010 11:55 pm ET

somethings going on because
humans mysteriously crave creativity and knowledge, almost for survival
nature does not crave creativity and knowledge it just mysteriously produces intense amounts of creativity and never ending knowledge
nature logically seems to be a mysterious plan to inspire


Liz   September 11th, 2010 12:09 am ET

When Mr. Hawking can explain the existence of malicious evil spirits, then I will believe his ideas about the Creator of the Universe.


Charles Shappley   September 11th, 2010 12:16 am ET

All due respect to Mr. Hawking but his theory of how the Universe was created is all wrong. Science can be verified by scripture in so many ways. For one every place that scientists have been to in the quote Holy Land can be found in The Bible unless it was destroyed by war. To say that God doesn't have to exist for the creation of living beings is totally unfounded and ridiculous. Man with his limited thinking could think up the human body for one because of its complexity.


Michael Brein   September 11th, 2010 12:19 am ET

The brilliant mind of Stephen has come up with this notion that invoking God is not necessary to explain the universe. He is operating on the basis of his understanding of 21st century science. What about 50th century science? Won't we have more to base an opinion upon then? Should we consider his opinion as tentative or final? Also, with literally trillions of galaxies, stars and planets–and civilizations–shouldn't we sample a few more religions as well as the science coming from some of these other more advanced civilizations before etching Stephen Hawking's opinions in stone?


Cajazz76:24:8   September 11th, 2010 12:19 am ET

taina thomassina

Hasn't he already been invented? An honest and trustworthy and compassionate God would be man's greatest sign of nobility and greatest invention ..caj


Joey Tucco   September 11th, 2010 12:27 am ET

I love the pursuit of Happiness! Let in the joy and happiness you are blocking.


michael amontree   September 11th, 2010 12:27 am ET

Science is the only true religion. It the constant search for the answers to all of God's miracles.


Sam   September 11th, 2010 12:28 am ET

Of course God created the Universe. In fact, the title of Hawking's new book "The Grand Design" reveals his true convictions that God did create the Universe because a design MUST have a Designer behind it. Furthermore, science's account will never be complete because it is impossible for finite begins such as humans to try to explain or understand the infinite universe and its Creator. If one simply looked at the stars instead of their feet as Hawking suggested, one would realize how small they are but how great the Universe is, how great God is, who are you o little being that dares defy and rebel against a holy and righteous God? Instead of trying to explain the infinite Universe, why don't you try to answer why a righteous God did not kill you in your sleep after what evil you had done, said, and thought?!


ckelly   September 11th, 2010 12:28 am ET

Maybe a human asking "why am I here, or " what/how the universe is created" is comparable to an ant finding itself at the base of a great building making its own idiosyncratic observations of something to great or beyond its capability to fully comprehend. The ant 's assessment would be "antcentric"-but then again its meaning or purpose makes sense to the ant and to the grand design of the universe and the ant's place in it.


michael amontree   September 11th, 2010 12:32 am ET

All other religions are made by man. And man was not made in God's image. Man made god in his image. What determines the state of a religion? Most are just laws. Science is man's unraveling of nature's laws.


Joseph B (Cambridge, MA)   September 11th, 2010 12:34 am ET

I am truly interested in knowing all 3 panelist' view on 12/21/12 (aka "end of the calendar") via their scientific opinions.


Dante   September 11th, 2010 12:35 am ET

Nothing begets nothing. I think what the father and "the great" Mr. King were looking for was the "Uncaused Cause Theory". I cant wait to read the book.


Alex Anscombe   September 11th, 2010 12:36 am ET

Science is the single reason why we have all the fantastic and extravagant technologies of today. Religion stands in the face of science by applying complacency into the human mind when it wonders why.


Natali   September 11th, 2010 12:36 am ET

God created everything. After that he let things be and evolve naturally. Allowing free choice and and free will to saturate the whole universe. He oversees but maybe doesnt control as much as we would like or think he does. I personally hopes he does. We need help and guidance.


Joseph B (Cambridge, MA)   September 11th, 2010 12:37 am ET

Does the alignment of the Sun, Moon and the earth on December 21, 2012, have any effect to you guys? If so, please describe.


sherry Storms   September 11th, 2010 12:38 am ET

Science tells us "WHAT" and "HOW", theology tells us "WHO" and "WHY". Both science and theology are ongoing. The most significant hero in my life has been Stephen Hawking, but if he believes the M Theory is the final answer in science, I can only say "it may possible but not probable". If he is saying that the most magnificant, complex, beautiful work of art and creativity just happened, I am heartbroken and he is wrong. When you look at a beautiful painting or sculpture, or listen to a beautiful melody, surely even the most uneducated human knows that someone, somewhere painted that picture, made that statue, wrote that music. This beautiful earth alone is evidence of a master artist, designer, intelligence beyound our comprehension and when you add multiple-universes, tiny particals, black holes, radiant suns, everything fom atoms to algae to diamonds, and glory that is mind stunning, I cannot comprehend an inability to recognize the existance of the One who created them. God wrote the laws of physics, created gravity, designed those little strings of breathtaking wonder. So I have to proclain, "What and How" no matter how complete, CANNOT negate the "WHO and WHY"!


Mikel Ray   September 11th, 2010 12:38 am ET

Im thankful to God that Stephen Hawkings has put time and energy into his research as to whether or not God exists. The question i pose is this, why doesnt Mr. Hawkings use the time that it takes to prove whether God doesnt exist and seek for himself if God does exist. God specifically tells us as his creations if we seek his face he will reveal himself to us. It appears to me that Mr. Hawkings needs a one on one encounter with a creator thats shown grace,compassion and love for his life on a daily basis. Simply put if God doesnt exist how can you explain out of 17,400 people occupying the WTC at the time of the attacks, only 2996 people died. Did science prevent the other occupants from losing their lives? It took an act of God to spare the lives of those survivors, not science.


Thomas Good   September 11th, 2010 12:39 am ET

I do not believe myself in a God, neither do i like to mess with any religion, as that is said, i feel that the universe is just in motion, that the universe was never created and can never be destroyed, that everything is made of energy. I feel that the universe is made for our own entertainment and that in shorter that we ourselves are just looking through our eyes the same way everyone else is, just that everyone else in stuck in their body and i happen to be stuck in mine. I feel that our body's are temporary machines used to play this large scale mind games. To sum this up for the readers who are on there tip of there seat to get the ending, I believe that everything in your planet as we know it was created in the minds of humans and morphed over as the life line goes on. That if houses, language, technology and every book a person has wrote. That the way we think itself was designed by a persons thought process, but i also feel that every person in the universe is made of the same energy and source as myself, just placed in a different location. Also that life its self is just a LOT of different viewpoints. Unfortunately there are endless possibility's and viewpoints in our universe. Finally i feel that if there was a God we wouldn't even know of him, and that he wouldn't intervene in your life's because its our own machine, and not being used by another source of energy.


Angelo   September 11th, 2010 12:39 am ET

In the beginning God created the earth. He put it in mans mind to want to know the mysteries of life. I think he did that to show us that the universe had to be created by something, That being God.


Lena Gerwick   September 11th, 2010 12:39 am ET

I am so glad that Larry King is taking on an interesting Intelectual subject. Universe, god and no god. Thank you. i am so tired of trash on TV.


C   September 11th, 2010 12:40 am ET

What about consciousness?


RICHARD OSAGIE IYOHA   September 11th, 2010 12:40 am ET

It is not true that Science has been able to prove the origin of all things!! I think Hawkins is smart, but he makes a complete fool of himself by denying that God took active part in creation


Abel   September 11th, 2010 12:40 am ET

It seems a bit unfair to have these 2 gentleman representing Hawking's point of view and only 1 person representing the side of the existence God. Even though Mr. Hawking is a great scientist he does not have all of the answers. He is acting arrogant and I love to see how Mr. Hawking's co-author is trying to answer everything just by using physics.


Terry   September 11th, 2010 12:41 am ET

Einstein showed a direct correlation between energy and Matter. What are the chances that some day another will show a direct correlation between thought and energy?


PinnyGold   September 11th, 2010 12:42 am ET

as Stephen said: if the question is who created the universe, then god cannot be the answer. Whoever created god in the creationist's opinion – be it Himself, we can't understand it, it's beyond our ability to understand – can be said about the Universe and/or about the rules that govern it. e.g. "the Universe created itself," it's beyond our understanding how the Universe could have came into being without anything creating it.


ralf   September 11th, 2010 12:42 am ET

In the movie Solaris the universe was said to exist "because what's to stop it". Is this one way to explain Steven Hawkings (and other physicists) origin of the universe?


Eleazar   September 11th, 2010 12:42 am ET

Larry all this science is hurting my head.

Eleazar
Vancouver BC


Mike   September 11th, 2010 12:43 am ET

Can it been considered that God is not a supernatural being that mearly snapped his fingers, said a word, or let out a breath to create the universe? Can we explore the possiblity that God is just a title that we have given to what we do not understand? Without sounding like alien/ufo nut, can we consider that God could be a being or a race of beings that is actualy so technologically advanced that he or they new how to create the universe and all that it encompasses? They new how to set it in motion, maybe.


Marilyn Parisi   September 11th, 2010 12:43 am ET

Nothing from nothing yields nothing. If there were no creator, there would be no beauty. What a thoughtful creator to give us our six senses so we could taste the most awesome fruits and vegetables; smells that alert us to danger and tickle our fancies in an eating extraganza; eyes that can behold the most beautiful mountains with their majestic image in a body of the bluest waters; to feel and touch people around you and to be touched back and feel love; to hear a symphony or a band to get your body up to move and dance and lose yourself. What more can I say, you got to a rock not to know.


C   September 11th, 2010 12:43 am ET

I mean you need spirituality to complete science.


chigozie obiaka   September 11th, 2010 12:45 am ET

its amazing when people try to explain everything with science. but i will take up the physicist from caltech on LKL who said the the question of asking of the beginning cannot be properly phrased, i beg to differ but rather the issue is that answering the beginning with science is actually laughable. everything has a beginning, even speaking words starts with knowing alphabets. Science may be able to explain the beginning but that does not mean God did not create the universe. it is absolutely funny to think that something just comes out of nothing without the existence of a divine being, God.


Tree   September 11th, 2010 12:45 am ET

Hawkings might want to rethink hie "research"! The body weighs less after death than it does seconds before it dies. Does this mean the human "Soul" can physically exist?!


Brian Dzyak   September 11th, 2010 12:45 am ET

I strongly feel that M-Theory DOES explain consciousness and questions like "what happens to us after we die." How? Well, if everything is based on tiny strings of energy, then it follows that consciousness is also fundamentally energy.

Organisms somehow are "consciousness magnets" and when an organism "traps" enough of this specific kind of energy, then the organism gradually becomes "self aware."

So, when an organism dies, this "consciousness energy" is released back into the "free pool" of energy that is just floating out there, waiting to be recaptured into anything that is living. This helps explain things like reincarnation, past life memories, "ghosts," and even "divine help" from prayer.

I would like to know what our guests feel about this theory that occurred to me after reading many of Mr. Hawkings works in addition to Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe."


Stella   September 11th, 2010 12:45 am ET

This man is close to death and needs a new mind set before he meets his maker. Lou Gerie disease is short death sentence. I will pray for this man as he does not want to be tormented in the next life as he has been in this life.


Mario   September 11th, 2010 12:45 am ET

Why do we have such a hard time to believe that the Universe came out of nothing while we easily believe that God came out of nothing??


Ron Francois   September 11th, 2010 12:46 am ET

What of the idea that God did not create the universe, but that it has never ceased to be created.
Please comment.


Ashley Williams   September 11th, 2010 12:46 am ET

God is our author, he created the people, the events, the place, and the time.


sandy gartin   September 11th, 2010 12:46 am ET

If we had more than our 5 senses, if we used more of our brain than we do, would you then have a very different sense of the Universe?


Damon Covert   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

Hawking's assertion that God is not necessary requires entirely too much faith.


Jeff   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

What is so amazing and written a couple thousand years ago in the Old Testament of the Hebrew bible, the bible talks of not relying on science to explain God and His creations.

Science is man's philosophy of understanding, like psychology or different denominations of religion .... science was foretold it would be a part of the world but God is very specific in telling His believers that it's erroneous and foolish.


david grillot   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

How can anyone claim to be able to answer the question of whether or not there is a god?

How can humans be so arrogant as to claim that they really understand the origin of the universe? We can certainly come up with equations to describe the interactions between the matter and energy since the very beginning, and we can even claim that quantum mechanics makes things manifest themselves into existence in a vacuum, but how can anyone claim to know the deep reasons or significance behind these events... whether they be scientists, religious leaders or philosophers, we are all just specks of dust in an immense world, living for just a fraction of moment in the life of the universe.


mohamed kassem   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

i dont believe in science...i believe in god science cant heal marrige...god can, science cant make a broken criminal whole again... god can, i used to believe in science but it has let us down countless times before. how many times has science said " oh well were wrong"... this is how it reall is "actually our caculations were off by 75 million microns so the implications are as varied as the universe" dont talk about god like you know him


oi oi   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

Is not science at best what man thinks he knows?


Nina Bouska   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

It seems elementary that the ultimate conclusion must be that no one knows, and know one can know. Yet we must admire those who exercise the abilities we are given to think, to explore, to extrapolate, to analyse and project in order to satisfy our curiosity about such mysteries. So long as no one insists that his is the absolute inalterable truth and must be accepted by all others, I can see know harm in considering the possibilities. It is just that we must remember that they are only merely theories. Any of them may be right, or wrong, and most likely some of each.


Barry   September 11th, 2010 12:47 am ET

The simple law of cause and effect, demands that that there is a cause for this universe, that we now live in. The reason people try to dismiss God from the equation is to not have to respond to Him. Yes God created the Heavens and the Earth.


Keith H. Kerr   September 11th, 2010 12:48 am ET

Could science have created God?

Thank you.


Michael Philip pratt   September 11th, 2010 12:48 am ET

Finally after Over 45 yrs of saying " what started something from nothin"
I have thought, talked and preached this exact question all of my live sice about 5 yrs old!
The answer is" as a mere mortal human we cannot conceive what started something from nothing" so there for we must admit! That something greater than us created the first "molecule" or created God! But we were created by something!
So why not take a chance and follow the basic rules of most world religions and be a caring, giving, kind person. Instead of being greedy and powerful.
If this is a test? I don't want to fail!!!
God is Omnipitant!!!
May we all be blessed during our coming "times of wows" !
Michael


Jesu   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

What about the famous Miracles: Eucharistic Miracle in Lanciano, Italy; Our Lady of Guadalupe's Image on the tilma of Saint Juan Diego; Incorruptible bodies of Saint Bernadette, Saint Vincent, and the other Saints? These are beyond the realm of science! There is a God Who created everything. If there is no God, then just live your life for nothing!


floyde   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

Science is one of the biggest, if not the biggest cult that ever existed. We were taught science in school as a child, eventually, if a person is constantly been bombarded by scientific theories, people start believing them to be true. People in the early years thought that anyone who shared their scientific theories were crazy. Today, we uphold people who think they have the answer to our existence.


marcus   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

i think when he said their is no understanding of how the is, explains that their is a divine being


Harrison Diaz   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

Bottom Line: Could you scientifically prove that anything can come from nothing? NO! The Bible is full of scientific facts that at the time it was written were completely unknown. Of course there is a creator, that is obvious.


Max D (BC, canada)   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

If The universe is defined as everything we know to exist, and God is inside that, is he part of the universe and created along with it?

or if god is outside of the universe and created it does that mean god doesn't exist?

Or was there a god, he was lonely so he created the universe as we know it to satisfy his own desire?

Or does god exist as the order of energy, continuously moving and motivating the universe forward?


George Frey   September 11th, 2010 12:49 am ET

what are you stupid "of course God created the universe it says so in the bibleand that is the ulitmate source, I have never seen a scientist 'create a tree' sure they can "grow" one but they can not create one out of nothing like GOD CAN!!!!!!


Raul Lorenzo   September 11th, 2010 12:50 am ET

We do not even have facts about who had created earth, nor the human race, then, How can we even try to explain the Universe creation when we only had being able to travel to our own satelite..the moon, with a hand counted times?
It is vary simple and easy to say God created "everything"..the same way as our ancient and primitive man affirmed that god brought them rain and food to their tribes...
Our race was created by extra-terrestrials, different races... there is plenty of real evidentiary proof outhere of ALL kind, but science and religion are covering them up...it is a very "inconvenient truth" for THEM both!!


Quarmel   September 11th, 2010 12:50 am ET

Did god create the universe... The answer is YES, what kind of question is that... If you read in the bible, it clearly states that, god created the heavens & the earth, & the earth is his & the fullness there of... & there was no beginning before god, seeing how he was the beginning... Truth be told he created science!!! He is the creator...


John   September 11th, 2010 12:50 am ET

Apart from personal revelation, people will believe whatever they find convenient to believe. If God, then God. If no God, then no God. I find it most inconvenient to believe in God because his instructions are counter-intuitive to every inclination of my flesh – but for me, a personal revelation of God allows no other conclusion.


Nathanael Gracia   September 11th, 2010 12:50 am ET

If their is no God , their is no human beings either, the way science is trying to prove our origine is outside of God is implying that He does not exist. So If we can still love and have compassion for each other , if we care for people and help the poor and desable in other words if we still are humans there must be a God.


Joe   September 11th, 2010 12:50 am ET

OOH. I love this,There is a God, has always been will always be and he created the heavens and the earth and man. He saved my soul from a devils hell and when God comes to me and says that the Bible is not true than I will always believe in him and thank him for saving my life. Regards, Joe


David   September 11th, 2010 12:51 am ET

I didnt quite agree with any of the panalist's definition of "Faith".

I consider 'faith' to be a VERB

an action..

based on belief

when you get out of bed
you exercise faith that
gravity will pull your feet to the floor


H.H. Alexandra H, Saoshyant   September 11th, 2010 12:51 am ET

We must be incredibly careful with what one wants the world to believe. Of course, there are many Gods, which is evidenced in the history of this planet, but there is only one Creator. We should not take away the Creator and replace it with science because puny individuals will blow up their egos to push the Divine Creator away – out of their minds. Then humanity can believe that it has full reign to bomb, murder and destroy upon the planet, without repercussion in this life or life beyond. I have foretold that scientists will try to capture and entrap soul in a bottle. Is that next? I have had 5 life-after-life experiences and an otherworldly arrival on this planet and there is no one who can tell me that there is no Creator and that there are not many Gods. We must all seek peace on this planet before we can discuss creation.


andy   September 11th, 2010 12:51 am ET

Everything in life is circular. The planets are round and circle each other co dependant on one another for order. Even our own Sun circles slowly around our own milkyway galaxy. To understand circles is to understand Pi. God created Pi and understands Pi. Our limited minds can not comprehend such genius and so we dismiss Gods work as an accident to make us feel superior. What movement is next how man created man?


Robert Olivas   September 11th, 2010 12:51 am ET

God is time. In time he shall be revealed.


C   September 11th, 2010 12:52 am ET

God created the universe.
Spirituality can exist eternally.
Can science exist eternally?


Katie P   September 11th, 2010 12:52 am ET

There is one thing that sticks in my mind: Mr Hawking says he believes it is possible to explain the universe without using the idea of a creator, that the explanation lies totally within science. The one thing I have not heard an explanation for is this: Why does life have the desire, the need, the drive, to LIVE? To survive? and, to reproduce? How can a living organism, which in theory was a result of a random combination of molecules, have the ability to not only self-replicate but to avoid death. Why does life want to live? How can that be explained by scientific laws??


Dan   September 11th, 2010 12:52 am ET

If Religion is against Science? i dont think so why? well when we mention god there's a fact god is extraterrestrial because is not from earth, some studies reveal the experience of extraterrestrial entities doing biological test like clonning or artificial insemination in ancient egypts, what if the Jesus born from one of those test, what if the innamculate conception was indeed an artifical insemination performed by extraterrestrial entities? if so then science is just probing the religion theory, there are not against they are working together.


Evelyne Miller   September 11th, 2010 12:52 am ET

I believe it is important to separate the existance of God from organized religion. Religion is man made, historically invoking a God for the many things we could not explain. Religion has deteriorated into a power struggle which could ultimately result in the down fall of man kind.
A better question might be, where did the nothingness begin and is there a beginning or an end.
Evelyne Miller, Grapevine TX


Joe   September 11th, 2010 12:52 am ET

What isn't being said in this conversation is two things:

1) Even though we cannot disprove/prove the existence of a God, we can observe that much of what is said about "God" is absolutely baseless. Such as with Deepak Chopra – he makes up whatever he wants.

2) Even though we cannot disprove/prove the existence of a God, we can observe that much of what is said about "God" is absolutely false. Much of Christianity, more properly called Christian mythology, has been proven to be false and much of it is obvious mythology.


Michael L Bryant   September 11th, 2010 12:54 am ET

The word God is insufficient. The word Unknown offers humility and if inserted for the word God in any language will certainly separate the wheat from the hull. 'Agape'


sriram   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

It is the best Larry King Live that I ever watched. We are so humble after all the hard work we say "thank god". We are so humble with all the mighty strenght and intellegence, we created temples, churches, mosques etc and show our appreciation to god.


Tara   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

Unfortunately the question leaves one very important option off the table. I believe that god IS the universe ...although god is not confined to that one creation. God is consciousness which is eternal and should be considered a verb and not a noun. Consciousness is the action of creation. It is energy continually striving to experience all things as yet unexperienced.


DG   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

Maybe this won't be removed based on an acronym. 30 minutes into larrys show, big ? Is "something from nothing". If you believe that, where did God come from? Was he just bored, we are the equivalent of an aquarium, terrarium? Can anyone tell me what happened billionths of a second before the book of Genesis starts? Even that would set you off a few billion years. Not just cuz the bible says so, or god says. Scientists don't have that luxury...anyone?


jeanette   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

go read genesis,in the beginning god created thr heavens and earth!
how dare you doubt god.


Jose Ramiro Ibanez   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

You were right when you imagine that blue planet. God created it and God gave the rules os the blue planet. Einstein was very close to understand those rules in his relativity teory. But he didn't realize that time is constant. what it changes is the number of event per unit of time by a rule given by God. As a physicist I found that rule in Genesis. It fits well with the relativistic theory. It is the beginnig of the Unified theory where both knowledges are combined to explain the physical creation of this Blue planet and the purpose of it. You should know then that the spiritual an physical nature of humans work together.


Alan Berends   September 11th, 2010 12:55 am ET

I have heard that over 90% of scientific theories have been disproven or have had to be adjusted for inconsistancies. Doesn't that make science more of a belief than they would be willing to admit.

Take evolution, there isn't a missing link, the whole chain is missing and there is no definite link between any of beings from the first primordial being to modern man. That is more of a belief than "science".

One law of Biology states that life only comes from life. Which basically denies the possibility of life generating from inert elements. I believe it was Louis Pasteur that made this discovery. Do you deny that he proved that.


Thomas Good   September 11th, 2010 12:56 am ET

Also we are what we are, we are here now, there is no question about it, Humans created language. Along with how we are even able to use words and have everyone understand them, it is programing done by humans over time. Also in another viewpoint, i feel that everything in life is not what it seems, that its a "fake" world that takes away from the real true, the true is simple, its sitting in front of you at all times, the real true is what you see out of your eyes at that particular moment that it is being seen. Also that we are imprinted since birth to adapt to any condition, we are imprinted to understand that lines and dashes that have a particular imprint in our mind to tiger a visual in the mind to have a understanding of what is being seen, and heard, and we are told that words mean a specific meaning and we understand that because we are on the same page. just like you are reading this and understanding that there is no right and wrong, its what you think inside that makes the effects that your emotions make, but we are told since we entered the world that to be sad.


Stella   September 11th, 2010 12:56 am ET

I believe in God and his son Jesus Christ and if I am wrong no harm done, but if I am right not lost and headed to heaven. Those who do not believe looses everything. Lou Gerie disease is a early death sentence. I hope he sees the Light before going to face his maker.


Ismail Twininge   September 11th, 2010 12:56 am ET

Belief is not a pre-requist of truth, Truth is alwas that which leads to belief. So I as Christian When I say I believe in Jesus Christ that means who he says he is has to be true that is the reason for my belief. I believe In Christ because what has be said in the scriptures about This World him and us has manifested in my life. And the question about who created God is answered in the Name I AM. No one created God he never was, He never is, and he never will be because he is I AM. He is not confined by the very laws he created space and time.


Roy   September 11th, 2010 12:57 am ET

It is perfectly understandable to want to define the world around us using the scientific method but one cannot simply dismiss religion or any such institution when you think you have answered the question to the universe because science cannot give you things like ethics or morals.


Stephan Siemens   September 11th, 2010 12:57 am ET

If there is no God then where do morals and rights come from, and who decides these morals, values and rights. If there is no God, then does it matter what we do to each other or countries do to each other, etc. Is there than any such thing as sin? If there is not, then does survivor of the fittest rule the world and then after we die, there is nothing else. I would find this hard to believe and do not have the faith to believe that there is no God.


Bryant   September 11th, 2010 12:57 am ET

I've personally meet Christ..................................


fate   September 11th, 2010 12:57 am ET

regarding the universe and the existence of God: I strongly feel that our consciouness guides us. The goodness vs. evilness guide us eventually to the outcome of the universerse – goodness to betternss of the universise and evilenss to distruction, hense a purpose


Kita   September 11th, 2010 12:57 am ET

As a scientist, I can attest that God created the universe. It is irritating that there is so much controversy over who created what. It is amazing to me that so many people have been given created for the fundamentals things that have accomplished in science, including Hawkins.The universise only explains part of history and parts of life, where is the full story if there is no Creator? Every novel has a author. There have been times that scientist have hypothesized aliens from another planet have contributing bring radiation to the Earth. We cannot prove that aliens exist, yet still God gets credit for nothing. While individuals are spending their time debating and arguing over who created what, we all now that there is and end to everything. The fact that we will parish why is any of this important? If it is one day proven who created what, what have we accomplished, because once we have parished what use is our knowledge?


Michael Cohen   September 11th, 2010 12:58 am ET

The belief that God is substantive in influencing human events and that HIS precepts should influence our decisions has been a disaster for humankind. "W" got his gut feelings, so he thought, from his beliefs as a born again Christian that is from god. What a disaster that has been.


EZ   September 11th, 2010 12:58 am ET

Believing in a god, in a creator of the universe, is no more of a leap of faith than believing in M-theory. Perhaps God is hidden in the eleventh dimension. Also, Dr. Hawking supposedly believes that the Big Bang was inevitable due to the law of gravity. Gravity? It is the least understood force of nature. It is an enigma!


mark eisenwinter   September 11th, 2010 12:59 am ET

what came first the chicken or the egg? scientist can have theories to prove one or the other. however, no scientest can create the chicken or the egg. therefore, according to the rules of science the chicken cannot exist.


Ramesh Chandra   September 11th, 2010 12:59 am ET

Simple Answer is "There is no End of Why" the universe is here or there.


Angela   September 11th, 2010 12:59 am ET

What about the experiments being conducted at CERN? Some experiments have concluded that the behavior of particles that are created in their machine are actually, physically effected by the scientist observing them. Even Einstein's theories and the very speed of light, is interactive with an observer. Free will vs. determinism? It doesn't matter what a person believes? In my opinion, science supports the idea of a Supreme Being. Our ability to percieve such a being is limited, however. There will always be questions we won't find answers to.


tommy powell   September 11th, 2010 1:00 am ET

If god is so omnipotent creater of all things why does he not take a physical form and cure the planet?


Muhammad Anzar   September 11th, 2010 1:00 am ET

How physics explains the phenomenon of LOVE between two hearts. and is speechless in the world of spiritualism. Physics is not the answer to all questions of this world and universe. Every law has a creator who creates and sustains that low. The title of book is funny "Great Design" without "Designer".


Eric Olsen   September 11th, 2010 1:00 am ET

Jean Paul Sartre wrote an interesting book, "Being and Nothingness", in the 1950's. Simply this: Walk into a room of people looking for a friend. You don't see him and declare he is not there. Walk into an empty room and declare you don't see your friend. Thus we are introduced to the importance of nothingness as the emptiness clearly is nothingness, sans people, as is your friend.
The value of Hawking's concepts have yet to be proved of any value. Using mathematics to explain a "universe" more often becomes confined by those mathematics and once again we must return to GO and start the process all over.
The human soul is the software of human existence; it is an ever expanding, changing operating program, without dimensions, and thus belongs to eternity along with God.


Ignacio reina   September 11th, 2010 1:01 am ET

Science can not prove that there is no God, that is there is a God


Tom Johnson   September 11th, 2010 1:02 am ET

Mr. Hawking, I have the utmost respect for you and your field. If God does exist, God is more than any of us will ever be able to understand. What we know about God, or shall I say think we know about God, is all a matter of opinion, and mans imagination. If God exists, Gods plans are far more than we will ever understand also.
Mr. Hawking, thank you for what you have contributed to our world. I am absolutely fasinated!


Siam   September 11th, 2010 1:02 am ET

The wisdom of men is foolishness to God🙂


Natali   September 11th, 2010 1:02 am ET

This was an amazing show. I wish they would play more shows like that on tv. Like all the time. Cheers and God Bless!!


ckelly   September 11th, 2010 1:03 am ET

The fact that we have the ability to observe the observed (ourself) and that we can observe that fact- might suggest that this aspect of our "conscious being" has meaning .

That is : "yet to be observed by science"

Therefore, this is more or different than what or how science understands both consciousness and human teleology-but then again, it may be different (more, less, complete than we know)-What God is as I understand God is an experience. Both observable by myself-meaning" I have a brain" and also resonating in others meaning-

Even by those after the fact..ie the community can experience what the dead and the brain damaged can not. Both Human and God experience can be described and known as long as human consciousness can experience and report-phenomenologically. That gives us our sense of ourselves, imagination, Self.

It exists not just because I think so but also BECAUSE I think so and then the experience exists after the fact. It must therefore, also be a precurser for human understanding of God, transcendence, imagination, phenomenology-we are born with this experience through time (in any descriptor, therefore it exists. That is, What meaning we give to it is material or biological AND personal and political (social).


Bob V   September 11th, 2010 1:04 am ET

God is an adult's SANTA CLAUS.
Pretty simple.
They misled us as children and adults.
I am a former Catholic.
Any questions?
Science is fact.


William C. Mason   September 11th, 2010 1:04 am ET

My Philosophical Speculations:

You can breakdown all things to no less that one thing that has three parts to it.
The relationship between the three parts of one thing, is why there can never be nothing, otherwise, it would be a contradiction.
Time and energy are bothers of the same parallel. You can not have one without the other. Our human perception of explore, evaluate, curiosity, and understand are the human traits that motivate us to explain what we have observed.

Religion gives us a satisfaction that their are many things we don't understand, and having a faith provides peace, hope, and feelings of security. We want to live forever, so if we don't understand what might be God, therefore we will create one to give us what we need and what we won't. As far as observations, some
of the statistics I've heard is that Practicing a faith tends to promote a physically and mentally, healthier body with a longer life span in contrast to those without these attributes.

Enough of my thoughts ~ Have fun in the cognitive exploration of understanding life and the Universe that we exist in.


Medi Sebugwawo   September 11th, 2010 1:04 am ET

Dear mr. Larry King on the question of: Did God create the Universe? my question to your guests on that topic is CAN THAT QUESTION REALLY BE ANSWERED BY SOMEONE ELSE BEYOND ONESELF?


Anand   September 11th, 2010 1:05 am ET

We all know that we consist of zillions of cells, broken into molecules and other elements which I am not aware of. We also know that they are all alive.
Now imagine that to translate into galaxies within us and the outlook on life of a cell at the bottom of a person's foot towards the infinite nature of being within it's space and compare it's outlook on the nature of impossible theory on it's part but still possible in practicality to us for traveling to the head reigon. an unimaginable theory to the cell but nothing to us right?
Now imagine if we were just a cell or even smaller than that in a being, and compare our organs as galaxies within our body the universe. And, if the universe as we know it is just within one being our understanding of universe can begin but will only travel into a back hole / infinite time as it keeps expanding into theories of infinite vastness and gods and gods of gods
The theory explodes into a fission state of being, whereas anything can take a godly state and move either way, upwards or down, even sideways to the infinite
My belief is to live in the present and in the surrounding we are in as responsible beings or even gods as we hold a universe within us and keep expanding as organisms, families and more.


MC   September 11th, 2010 1:05 am ET

Could someone please repeat or paraphrase what the very first question (from a viewer) to the panel was? The priest answered it and said he agreed. I missed part of the question because someone was talking here...

It sounded interesting, as was the rest of the show.


DG   September 11th, 2010 1:06 am ET

Wow, really people? First 30 minutes the big ? Is "something from nothing"? Is that not Christianity? Other than "cuz the bible says", or "cuz God says". Somebody please explain where God came from? Was he just kicking back in the vacuum of nothing and decided he'd start like a terrarium? At least science has to be proved and replicated before any consideration. Christians are lucky in that respect.


Tammy   September 11th, 2010 1:06 am ET

My question is,Why hasn't anyone brought up the fact that the bible specifically says the Earth is a sphere in several parts of the book? I mean how would those people back then know that Earth was circular back in those days?This was written in a book that has been around for thousands on top of thousands of years.. Back then they only knew of the Earth being flat.Hence why people in the 15-16-and early 1700's and before those years would not go beyond what they thought would take their ship out of the ocean and be thrown into space...I'm not trying to be senacle here by any means but I'm just repeating something that has been written in what we ALL know as the Holy Scriptures/Holy Bible..


Peggy Mann   September 11th, 2010 1:09 am ET

Einstein spoke of something called "the analogy of a clock", where one imagines a watch face that cannot be opened. Any theory that explained the observable ticking and motion was just as good as another if the watch face could not be opened. Isn't the discussion of God vs Science analogous to that?


Maryann   September 11th, 2010 1:09 am ET

We are connected to each other and to the Souce as the ultimate existence at soul-center/heart-center. When we connect to our highest Self, and we are present with our whole Being, we are able to perplex our great Scientists, we are able to heal – take note of many cancer patients who refuse to believe in the verdict from the doctors, who live their life in a state of happiness and disregard for another's belief and scientific proof, and who go on to live cancer-free - their core belief in LIfe, supercedes the logic of science. That comes from the heart and soul and center – call it belief in God, call it belief in the great Power, the one Source,call it self-healing, call it Love , Pure Love, Transcendence...give thanks to knowing, the One, as I call it, the One thread that connects each of us to the other, that connects all life to all life – the universe as in the grain of sand....the universe is within expanding and without one expanding...all connected if you but know yourself for who you really are – and where you are – among all that exists together, creating and re-creating, ever new ever unfolding.


Michael Philip pratt   September 11th, 2010 1:11 am ET

Tomorrow! What will bring? Read Revelations! Seek Wisdom the answers are there in one book! It's a Manual!
Compare the prophetic scriptures in the Bible " never one wrong prophicy" now Naustridamus and his over 5000 quatrains. Science has found a few similaities! But mocks the Bible? I don't get it? Take off your blindfolds amen!
Michael


Shirley Mullin   September 11th, 2010 1:11 am ET

God does exist. You belong to God. If you do not believe this, look at the DNA and then go a little further with the DNA and you will see the shape of the cross within the DNA. This proves you belong to Him. You can not say there is no GOD and that He does not exist. There is proof all around. The earth is the exact distance from the sun to survive. If it was any closer it would burn up any further away if would freeze. Where do you think you came from? Some dumb animal that you claim evolved? Like the monkey said," Man certainly didn't come from us". Also, the master of physics? Guess what that was GOD..He knows all, He hears all, enough said. And may God Bless You All.


Maria Krajnak   September 11th, 2010 1:11 am ET

It's time for a perceptional shift in how we think about God and the Universe. We don't need to believe in a god, or universal intelligence for it to exist. It exists inedpendently of us.
The universe is energy ... we are energy ... the nothingness is energy. We are energy beings and science has proved energy can take many forms and can't be destroyed. Is this universal truth proof of the existence of a soul. We won't truly know until we have direct experience of it. Science may never be able to define how something came out of nothing, but here we are experiencing life.
I think the real question is "why do WE exist."
Maybe the answer is the same as to why the universe exists and if we define the universe as God, than perhaps the Universe/God created everything else to experience itself. If God is energy and so are we ... isn't God experiencing through us?


Asif Hafeez   September 11th, 2010 1:11 am ET

In my opinion nothingness is really the creator, nature, god, whatever we want to call. so I will say God creates and physics/physicists explain. Again I am a dumb person, so my opinion is that God has definately created the universe under some strict laws, and He knews them, we on the other hand are coming to discover them, like we did that the earth is not flat. So in the process of this evolution of knowledge we will be able to explain a lot of thing but not all. An example that I am going to keep simple, someone asked a spirtual person, you talk about God, I dont see Him, how do I believe in your teachings. He just picked up a piece of hard clay and hit him with it, the person gets very angry and is shouting with pain, so he goes in front of the judge, and files a complaint, the spiritual person was summoned and asked why? He replied I answered his question. The judge asked him to explain. he enquired from the person who he hit what happened when I hit you, he replied I was in great pain, The spiritual person asked the man can you show me the pain, NO ANSWER. so he said I rest my case. So the physicist can only explain what they see, they cant explain the pain, thus pain does not exist. To me it is far reach for them to try to explain God, so it is easy to say there is no God or He is not needed to create. I believe He is, but i cant prove it, but atleast i admit rather then saying I see it and if you cant not my fault. the same way the scientists/physicists should not claim if they cant prove it so it does not exists. Mankind will get that knowledge one day, till then keep the thoughts (no explaination of that in physics) open.


Chosen   September 11th, 2010 1:12 am ET

GOD The The Creator & Father's Name Is, TRUTH !
That is, and Nothing, if you wish it to be !

I Saw ONE ! THE ONE


William C. Mason   September 11th, 2010 1:13 am ET

My Philosophical Speculations:

You can breakdown all things to no less that one thing that has three parts to it.
The relationship between the three parts of one thing, is why there can never be nothing, otherwise, it would be a contradiction.
Time and energy are bothers of the same parallel. You can not have one without the other. Our human perception of explore, evaluate, curiosity, and understand are the human traits that motivate us to explain what we have observed.

Religion gives us a satisfaction that their are many things we don't understand, and having a faith provides peace, hope, and feelings of security. We want to live forever, so if we don't understand what might be God, therefore we will create one to give us what we need and what we won't. As far as observations, some
of the statistics I've heard is that Practicing a faith tends to promote a physically and mentally, healthier body with a longer life span in contrast to those without these attributes.

Yes, I do want to believe in a God, and Yes, it is Good for mankind when not abused by mankind itself.

Enough of my thoughts ~ Have fun in the cognitive exploration of understanding life and the Universe that we exist in.


Ismail Twininge   September 11th, 2010 1:13 am ET

tommy powell He did his name is Yeshua(Jesus)


bellhop   September 11th, 2010 1:13 am ET

to those who want to know where the universe came from it came from nothing and what craeted nothing nothing. we create thoughts everyday where do they come from nothing its so obvious.


Brian Dzyak   September 11th, 2010 1:14 am ET

God IS the Universe. For reasons only "it" knows, it decided to "blow itself up" and expand into the Universe we are aware of and are a part of. This "god" is everything, including space itself.

M-Theory supports this idea in that the fundamental building blocks of everything, including consciousness itself, are energy strings. Some strings combine to make non-organic things. Some strings combine to make organic things. And some strings are part of "god's mind" (god's consciousness) that also fragmented in the "Big Bang" moment.

So, this means that ALL OF US and everything around us are God. He/She/It used to be a single entity, but is now spread out into a seemingly infinite distance.

Will "God" (the Universe) collapse back on itself and become that single entity again someday far into the future? Or will the Universe (God) continue to spread out forever and slowly "die" which implies that "God" committed suicide in the only way it knew how?

If there are indeed multiple Universes, given this paradigm, it implies that there are multiple "gods" who are all potentially engaged in this. What's important to think about is that they are not "creating," so much as rearranging the very "matter" that they ARE in the first place.

Yet none of this answers the most basic question of, where did these "gods" come from in the first place? If some kind of superbeing does exist, who made it?

The problem is that since we are all just as small piece of "god" itself, we are not capable of fully understanding because our brains cannot "capture" enough "consciousness energy" that it would take. Only when (if) this "god" collapses back into a single entity, can "we" all truly understand as we will all be ONE again.


andy   September 11th, 2010 1:14 am ET

very good!!! the chicken can not exist. Very true man can destroy and yet we havent the ability to create...

Even if you dont believe in God....God believes in you..

God bless you all and this wonderful life where we were given free will to debate this beautiful question.


Juan Asensio   September 11th, 2010 1:15 am ET

Dear Larry
I think you created this show because you are scare to know the true and sometimes you have feel the spirit, but your social position and friend does not allow you to choose the right path and in order to search for an answer you create this show, but there is simple way to resolve or understand this matter , a simple word FAITH , yes the real answer is inside you , because it so simple to believe and no scientific answers to discuss, but if you read the Bible and Book of Mormon ; then ponder in your heart ,humble your self before GOD , your doubt will disappear and you will know that there is God .
I just want you to read and ask GOD; I know he will answer your questions
Regards
Juan Asensio


Julian Redcross   September 11th, 2010 1:16 am ET

If mathematics is the language of God and physicsist is God explaining itself to God then why does God have to have a consciousness. Is it safe just to replace "God" with the "unknown"? Science is based on theory after theory. Could a human ever know its beginning through science? No one was around to account for it! Science, to me, has in fact proven itself through medicine and doctor practices so one just cant vote it out. However, I was raised in the church so I would like to believe there's a higher being but the more and more I research I'm just not so sure.


Mbangu Sibamba   September 11th, 2010 1:17 am ET

If nothing can create something then zero plus zero should equal one. In other words this concept is illogical. The role of science is to explain how things work and not why they work. When scientists attempt to do the latter, they step out of the realm of science and enter into the realm of philosophy and theology.


ckelly   September 11th, 2010 1:18 am ET

Science is the latest fact until the next one comes along.


fate   September 11th, 2010 1:20 am ET

Regarding the universe and the existence of God: I strongly feel that our consciousness guides us. The goodness vs. evilness guide us eventually to the outcome of the universerse – goodness to betternss of the universise and evilenss to distruction, hense a purpose – the meaning of to the universe that God created.
GOD creates the conscience and spirituality derives from conscience and science modifies with spiritual and conscience input for a betterness of distructiveness
GOD exists – why do we have brains? why do we see beauty? Explain color? explain nothingness? Why do we feel? what is emotion? soulfullness? math cannot calculate the feeling of feelings


rebornhawaiian   September 11th, 2010 1:22 am ET

Everyone that has experienced a miracle is in contact with the angels that represent The God of all religions, spirits and created elements. God is The Teacher and we are the students. Miracles are real. Believe in miracles for everything. God will deliver. He wants to see that we are paying attention and seeking his guidance. God has a real family in the universe. We are his family here. Respect and Accept his love. Weep with all of your heart. Grow Peace. He will appear to you. Simple.


James Randell   September 11th, 2010 1:24 am ET

This is not new. Laplace believed that the entirety of existence corresponded to solutions to differential equations, even replying "I have no need of that hypothesis" when asked why his book did not mention God. Since then, Laplace has been disproved repeatedly - e.g., chaotic dynamical systems, determinism does not mean predictability, the uncertainty principle.

This is the same. Hawking believes he can see if physics can just take a few more tiny steps, then he also will no longer have need of that hypothesis, just as Laplace believed that the "initial conditions" at a single point in time would be enough to completely determine the past and future and render God ancillary to the discussion.

If only for the sake of scientific integrity, surely he would be skeptical for years before acknowledging that every possibility of divine intervention had been eliminated. Thus, it is Hawking the man - not Hawking the scientist - who has taken a leap of "faith in physics," errantly believing that his vision of what physics might someday deliver is sufficient premise to reject the possibility of a creator God.


Jay   September 11th, 2010 1:37 am ET

Mr. Hawkings says God did not create the universe. Well then who? Why are there still so many questions science cannot answer? Where does the human soul come from, our moral compass, our conscious? Where does that feeling that tugs at your heart when you've done something wrong come from then? Man alone is too wrapped up in his own lusts and desires to ever create such a moral path to follow. Science hypothesizes. God's word has proved true in my life many times. Science gave my grandfather 2 weeks to live, instead he lived 2 months. Science would have had my 70 yr old mother-in-law pulled from life support but instead b/c of our family's faith that the Lord would pull her through, He did. She came back from a 3 organ shut down and lived another 5 years at 70 years old. No, science cannot explain many things and I would not want to be the reason for someone else's wane in faith and the Lord over something so non absolute. The Lord loves and watches over us all. The same cannot be said for science.


Larry Odegaard   September 11th, 2010 1:40 am ET

Stephen Hawking is guilty of Hubris, what the Greeks call "over-reaching.'" He can't answer the question if there is a God or
not, because his world-view is physical and deterministic. I believe
there is an intelligence behind everything we see and are. I believe
in a spiritual component to the Universe. As William Butler Yeats
so aptly put it "The real world is no longer the only reality, and the
unseen world is no longer a dream."


Abbas Lakhani   September 11th, 2010 1:40 am ET

Hey Larry ! Ask Hawking

(1) Who created those "cosmic particles" which caused the "big bang" ? And what happened even before that ?

(2) This universe is based upon cause-and-effect. If there is no causeless-cause which created this universe then we will have to assume the endless chain of causes which is impossible. Therefore there has to be a causeless-cause which created this universe.


ckelly   September 11th, 2010 1:41 am ET

Philosophy and religion was the foundations for the development of community morality and later, 20th century ethics and law-

My problem with science today is the fact that scientistsdo not openly and ardently discuss science's short comings as a discipline-there is politics, money and greed in all science disciplines and ETHICS rarely makes the news or discussion.

Technology is the grunt child of science and it is symbiotically attached to money, investment, war and greed while the great writer's of science aka Hawking et al. do not discuss the implications for removing God from their theories. Sure being provacative sells books and dismisses discussions of ethics in science and as the new religion-paves the wave for the demise of humanity. Ironic?


ralf   September 11th, 2010 1:42 am ET

Religion has continuously lost credibility to science throughout history. Its probably a matter of time until religion goes down but Its also clear people will hang on to any strand of superstition until science plugs every inch of wiggle room. As this slowly happens I hope it turns out to be a better world because there doesn't appear to be anybody in the sky helping out.

Thanks Larry King for allowing these people voices on American TV.


Ken M   September 11th, 2010 1:47 am ET

One thing we can say about Stephen Hawking for certain: If he seriously believes that no one created the universe but that all things came from nothing without any apparent purpose then Hawking has not asked all the questions yet.

Since you have such a superb mind, get to it Stephen.


Katie P   September 11th, 2010 1:58 am ET

My question: start with the theory that life arose from the primordial soup beginning as a purely random combination of molecules which had the curious feature, due to its chemical arrangement, to self-replicate. How is it that inanimate matter, molecules in the post-big bang earth, interacting according to their physical properties in a predictable manner, over time lead to an ability to not only reproduce itself but to act physically to avoid destruction of the individual molecule? AND, not to mention, how would it be energetically favorable to duplicate? If molecules are made of elements, and elements have distinct properties governed by the laws of physics , then it would have to be energetically favorable to duplicate? I think this is correct? But where would this extra energy come from-perhaps the intense electrical atmosphere of a solar system recently formed? Ok I will go with that. But how would this incoming energy be consistent enough in its level and occurance to provide these molecules with enough chances to replicate that through random chance they eventually became complex enough to store energy. I'm lost, I think I confused myself. My head hurts!


James   September 11th, 2010 2:01 am ET

Hawking and those theoreticians who espouse the search for "M-Theory" are acting as if that which they seek is already found. This is the most amateurish and disgraceful way a so-called serious scientist can possibly act. Most people here have no idea what it is they are referring to anyway. To be fair to the viewers, no one explained what they were actually talking about. It was a silly display of theatrics. It was just a deliberate ploy to get people emotionally involved about beliefs. I would be embarrassed to have taken part in such an unintentionally comic discussion.


art new york   September 11th, 2010 2:05 am ET

Another dimension would be "nothing" to us, as we could not (tangably) know it is there, we could not see it, feel it, or touch it. So I believe we came from that (perceived) nothingness. However, in reality(?), the dimension would be like a "creation" state and at times cross over to another dimension. Or; perhaps it could be another universe in a creation state, crossing over creating another universe through a collision or black hole. or other means of transmission. We wouldn't see or know of that other universe. either. It would be "non-existant" or "nothing" to us. So we would see this "creation" as coming from nothing.


Nathan Lay   September 11th, 2010 2:06 am ET

God is an axiomatic assumption. Rest assured, neither the scientist nor the priest can prove God's existence or non-existence. Believe what you may for whatever reason. Argue first cause or absence of evidence ... it does not matter and it will never make a difference.

However, the most scientifically sound response to "Does God exist?" is "We don't know." Atheists simply peddle unproved beliefs like the Theists (namely God does not exist, which is just as outrageous as it's converse). If God does exist, God is almost certainly nothing like religion claims God to be. How could you possibly arrive at God's attributes though idealist thinking (i.e. Deciding WHAT SHOULD BE as opposed to WHAT IS)? For example: God is all knowing ... says who? God is all powerful ... how do you know? God is all loving ... are you sure? Assumptions upon assumptions upon assumptions ... Does God exist? We don't know. Do you believe God exists? Completely up to you.


art new york   September 11th, 2010 2:40 am ET

Nothing-ness is a perception. Walk into an unlit room, pitch dark. It is nothing. black nothing so nothing is there. Turn on a light, there could be anything imaginable in the room. Nothing is just what we perceive at the time.


Roland   September 11th, 2010 2:43 am ET

There is more debate on this web page, than there was tonight on the Larry King Show.

I just read the transcripts of the interview/debate with Hawking. In my opinion the inclusion of Deepak Chopra was a serious mistake in terms of having a serious debate about the science. He introduced a mush factor that bogged down discussion as much eastern thinking tends to do. The physics of mush is that it slows one down, saps one's energy, and sticks the person making one self absorbed.

Let's move on and have a full televised debate on cosmology on a university campus.


DD   September 11th, 2010 2:48 am ET

Modern science will never explain how life and the universe began–there is always something new to learn and present "truths" will be disproved in the future. Your 3 guests, Chopra, Hawking and the other co-writer seem to like to hear themselves talk (at least the Priest was humble). They certainly don't have the answers. Interesting discussion–but nothing the average person has not already thought about. If God exists, physics and science and math are part of the plan, along with the rest of creation. One thing I have observed in my life is that people that believe in God seem to have a greater peace about them–it even shows on their faces. I also know a very well respected physics professor who is published, has lectured around the world, and is a devout believer in God. In fact, i believe his faith is keeping him alive today. Not all things can be explained.


treeoflife   September 11th, 2010 3:09 am ET

wee.....it does all depend how you perceive God and His/Her manifestation in the Universe. "What" is God? That is the question.


Uri Hort   September 11th, 2010 3:23 am ET

I agree with Steven, man created god, therefore god couldn't have created the universe.


Daniel   September 11th, 2010 3:28 am ET

I like looking into the theory of irreducible complexity. when you break down the smallest parts of the cell (look at the bacteria flagellum motor) into the separate basic proteins that each provide a specific function. It can be easy to see intelligent design, and you can't have intelligent design...without a designer.


Uri Hort   September 11th, 2010 3:29 am ET

Man wasn't around to know. We believe in god. However, I believe that there was no god before the universe to create it. My personal theory is extremely going to be proven. I believe science is a real god, because mother nature created the universe as well as god and us. So basically we are forever going and forever changing in time. Some would say evolving through evolution for years.


Tonatiuh   September 11th, 2010 3:34 am ET

God, the Law of Gravity and Time are the real Trinity, without them nothing would exists!


Gonzarelli   September 11th, 2010 3:40 am ET

Man is limited in his understanding of the mysteries of the galaxies. So, why should people follow a mere theory?
The laws of nature within this planet alone provide the proof that a mighty being created it all and planned it as such! I don't really care about any man's idea of what transpired and that there is no God. Come on! What kind of inferior mind would make such absurd statements? Where they there? Did they see it happen? When a bomb explodes, it causes chaos and pure destruction instead of creating life.

Mr. Hawkins continues to contradict himself, one moment he states we insignificant and have no way of ever been capable of anything but on the other hand he states we are the lords of
Those wasting our time by making such individualistic and abstract statements which provide no real foundation can continue fool themselves. However; it does prove the point our “Creator, God—almighty” made to Job; “You don’t understand the mysteries of the universe. Basically, telling him to shut-up and pray for mercy.

Think about it...NASA continues to be perplexed by the amazing discoveries happening daily. The moment we state the universe is this way we find out it is not! Let's get some common sense but let us not be so foolish as to denounce the "Omnipotent Creator".

I am not fooled one bit but hope and pray all of you are not.
Einstein does not prove anything by stating that God does not concern himself with our behavior. Einstein was very smart but let's not forget it was someone else who discovered the theory of relativity and various other milestones. He simply explain it better and because back than, women were not allowed to be outspoken.

Thank you.


kevin   September 11th, 2010 3:43 am ET

here is the answer.
God created the universe and it is clear
he created earth, sky, heavens, sun and moon
with in six days. so God he is the king of universe he is the first and the last.


TiffanyAllen   September 11th, 2010 3:44 am ET

Ancient peoples believed that gods caused the weather. We know now that there are scientific reasons for weather, but religions are still alive and well.

All Dr. Hawking is saying is that we don't need to invoke a Creator for this one particular question. He's not saying God does not exist, just that we don't need to use a religious answer to the question of how the universe began.

Science continues to march onward, slowly gaining more and more information about our world and lives. Religion doesn't need to concern itself with mundane issues that will eventually be learned through observation, perhaps one day the religious establishment will stop trying to answer all things and focus on the areas that science will never be able to touch.


Jonno   September 11th, 2010 3:45 am ET

The Bible says, "The foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom" (1 Corinthians 1:25).

The Bible also says, "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together" (Colossians 1:17).

I don't doubt the validity of provable "facts" through mathematics and science; however, I have faith that enables my belief in the God of all Truth. He is not provable. He is.


Andrew ShamRao   September 11th, 2010 3:46 am ET

That humans are reliable observers and that we can create reliable instruments of observation is in itself an axiom. That we can know the truth through observation is an axiom. Given this axiom, Science is ultimately based on "faith" in the axiom being true. The only difference between Science and Religion is that the scientific method of knowing is based on a systematic methodology, where religion has no method...just belief.


Denise Wall   September 11th, 2010 3:47 am ET

My surgeon asked if he could pray with me before my surgery. I was surprised, as my experience has been that most scientists do not believe in God. I loved his analogy of the possiblity of the Big Bang Theory creating the universe. He said it would be comparable to putting a load of laundry into your dryer and it coming out completed folded and stacked.


Johnathan Cruz   September 11th, 2010 3:47 am ET

I believe that the thought of god gives humanity a purpose, otherwise what does humanity have to believe in other than science.Others can debate the universe came from science, but you not fathom the others possibilities from which the universe was created.


Josh   September 11th, 2010 3:50 am ET

I love the discussion, but I have to ask... do all of your amazing ideas and your perceptions of the universe came from nothing? The ability to be self aware and question if there is a creator seems to me to be the very thing that proves that there is a god. I don't think anyone observed god or his greatness... we just know he/she is there. what we do with that whether it be to prove or disprove it means we know that there is something there.


Andrew ShamRao   September 11th, 2010 3:56 am ET

Question: Is it possible that we build instruments of observation that are likely to confirm our theories? It seems a very human thing to do...


Mr. Calvin Landers   September 11th, 2010 4:03 am ET

Its not a matter of did God create the universe, nor is it the question does Mr. Hawkins believes in God. What is truely missing from the conversation is at what level or where did God start creation. Some believe it started with Adam, while sciene can prove it was from much further out then that. Science and religion go hand in hand, the more we learn about our existance, the further out the touch of God is that started life. God may have created the big bang with the knowledge that it would eventually lead to us, or he could of started the process much earlier then that, it is up to us, and people like Mr. Hawkins to find out.


Jim   September 11th, 2010 4:05 am ET

Why is this a debate? The book in question states that the universe runs on a set of laws- ok- if you wish to believe in a creator, then said creator set up those laws. The big bang is the best scientific explanation we have for HOW the universe was created, but if there is a creator, then said creator created the singularity that created the big bang, and hence the universe. Determinism ( with a slight nod to heisenburg and probability) does not invalidate the concept of a creator, rather (IMO) it strengthens it, as the creation of a system that relies in discoverable principles speaks of design by some kind of intelligence.


aggrey kiprotich   September 11th, 2010 4:06 am ET

before we ask ourselves this question, we have to ask ourselves. does God exist? if God does exist, what existed before God? is it self created? or random growth?

secondly, if we were created, what was the essence of it all? their has been a war between religion and science. but we gotta understand that this two driving elements are relative. each one of this explains the existence of one another.

according to my studies, i have come to conclude that we created God. we made "God"exist by the power of faith and believe/ beliefs.

back to the question of.. Did God created the Universe? if you can answer the question above, then you will be close to answer. according to my research and studies, the Universe wasnt created by God. its by complex and well structured random existence and by process of natural selection, evolution. perfect species sprout and helped in transforming the universe we know today.


fate   September 11th, 2010 4:30 am ET

Through us, we give meaning to IT, and IT is GOD.


anezi   September 11th, 2010 4:32 am ET

Stephen Hawking was told by science that he has only 3 years to live but God kept him alive proving science wrong.The man is just a sick old man!!!! Only the fool says in his heart that there is no God.


Edward A.   September 11th, 2010 4:41 am ET

Mr Hawking writes about the grand design, meanwhile the holy bible is a complete design. There is no such thing as a perfect design, except God. Mere nature explains why every perception is limited by an endless diversity of our wrinkled understanding of the wonders of existence.


lon e.   September 11th, 2010 5:15 am ET

it was good not god without good god isnt good enough without good wisdom, your science is flawed without good love ,your love is lust without good, god is a dictator, without good as your foundation your rightiousness is selfishness and arrogant the word is just a tool ,it can be good or bad but good is was and will be even when we are gone,so be good it is being a part of somthing greater.


musikpal   September 11th, 2010 5:28 am ET

Science is a study of environment we live in, but r things we
r living in absolute? It appears so in our dimension, but is this
it?No,we can't say this is it because we have a limitation. That
limitation is we can never understand Infinity. If u live on a
straight line, can u understand a life on a plane? NO. If u live on a
plane, can u understand a 3D life?NO. So if we all live in this 4D life
with boundary (we r bounded by infinity, just like a plane is an
infinity to a straight line), how can we then say there's no more
dimension beyond this infinity?How can we say,then,there is no God?


Rev. Donald Logan   September 11th, 2010 5:30 am ET

Greetings Larry,

Stephen Hawking is 68, years of age with outstanding scholastic accolades and awards; I am 73 with only a little more than a one year equivalent college education.

I would welcome and appreciate the privilege of debating him on the subject of GOD and Science. and place my theology of "BEFORE THE BIG BANG" vs his "GRAND DESIGN" Every author I have heard of has by passed the First Chapter of the Book of the Genesis. WHY?. I believe I can give credence to if not explain the Origin of GOD. Can Professor Hawking provide an origin for Science?

Contact me, if you will.


Imad   September 11th, 2010 5:37 am ET

according to the "big bang" (secondary separation) which resulted in the formation of galaxies. these then divided to form stars, planets, sun, the moon, etc. the origin of the universe was unique and the probability of it occuring by chance is zero. The heavens and earth were joined together as one before they were torn apart.


Shaun Shanahan   September 11th, 2010 5:37 am ET

I think Stephen has made a good point which is far more realistic about our origin than some guy who waved a magic wand and greated the world and if this "God" was anything why the hell is he letting it get destroyed and destroying people with it. Religions are going to destroy what we have cus there so many socalled "Gods" out there.


Stacey Riley   September 11th, 2010 5:38 am ET

My belief in God stems from my personal experiences, and Stephen Hawkings derives his views on creation from science. My question to him is, what created the laws of nature? How did nothing evolve into the laws of nature that he says, created the universe?


Ronnie James   September 11th, 2010 5:41 am ET

you are your own god. the only world we live in is the world we perceive with our minds. What you see as real is in fact an illusion created by your mind


brian   September 11th, 2010 5:41 am ET

explain the creation of dinosaurs


Imad   September 11th, 2010 5:43 am ET

science is not the enemy of religion because god created science.


Shamil Beaton   September 11th, 2010 5:45 am ET

If cloning can create humans and body parts does this mean science is more powerful than God?


brian   September 11th, 2010 5:46 am ET

explain the creation of dinosaurs . think you.


Felipe Restrepo   September 11th, 2010 5:46 am ET

I would like to ask Steven Hawking why evolution makes the universe transform in to living organisms and then evolve to a rational animal like humans. What rules this apparent law of life, why this form, what would be the objective of this particular evolution?


Martha Louvitakis   September 11th, 2010 5:46 am ET

The journey that God creates for each individual comes through their efforts and ways of trying to discover the greatest Mystery of Love. Man is incapable of the ultimate discovery of the Divine, but sciece was instilled in the human condition in order to entertain their need to touch the intouchable and to cause a reaction within the human senses that cannot be explained.


McKnight Dada'a   September 11th, 2010 5:47 am ET

Question from a dummy
The existence of an entity that began a beginning is similar to the existence of consciousness that can not be mathematically explained. Did "nothingness" need creator?


G. Tod Lightsey   September 11th, 2010 5:47 am ET

Something had to make the nothing that created something...doesnt it? And then, something had to make the something (God...or divine being)...that made that! There had to be a God...or a divine being of some sort...to have made what made the something that was made...


timmi bahrain   September 11th, 2010 5:47 am ET

our brains 'are hardwired to believe in God, however as global communication is becoming much better at an exponential rate our understanding is evolving to a new level that will allow us to accept such an interesting book by Hawking🙂


Allura Tidy Tolouei   September 11th, 2010 5:48 am ET

I believe that ii is impossible for anyone to fathom the mind of God. God is infinite and incomprehensible to any finite mind. Any human being in this earth, how knowledgeable, how intelligent, how spiritual cannot fathom the mind and the workings of the Infinite Creator who is unimaginable.

The mind of the human being is finite and a finite mind can never understand the infinite. God is like the ocean and the mind of man is a drop. How can a drop comprehend the ocean?

Is science the enemy of religion? Not at all! Both work hand in hand.
Both seek for the truth. Both seek for reality to help mankind in its progression. Religion is progressive revelation from the Infinite, and discovers the reality. Both are good and work in harmony.


kenneth emeka   September 11th, 2010 5:49 am ET

The concept of nothing(zero) is no concept,cos even in science,everything has origin.rather than man using little sense God decided to give to man to make our life better ,human should stop challenging God,all these are always coming from the USA,yes God loves America,but they should be very careful cos,is only the believers in the USA that is saving America…may God have mercy on us. kenneth


Andrew   September 11th, 2010 5:50 am ET

My question to everyone: If God created Anything, who created him and who created the person to whom created God? I am a person who is neither religious nor a non believer I will have my belief in what is real when I die. The only evidence I have for anything are other people's life experences such as death and coming back and the Based on true story movie The Exocism of Emily Rose there was a letter written explaining why she was acting the way she was when she was alive.Facts are always better than myths. Look at Dinosaurs we KNOW they existed what the myths are is how they died and how long ago they lived and for how long. Thank You for your time and have a GREAT day. I consider September 11th Rmembrance day!!!


Tony   September 11th, 2010 5:51 am ET

God is the Universe. Science is the human human attempt to know and describe God.


mau   September 11th, 2010 5:51 am ET

It is terribly sad to know how his perceptions are eating up his soul, i feel sorry for what he believes.

YES, GOD is the maker of the universe.

Stephen Hawking and his co-writers says, the universe comes from nothing? How can it be nothing?? its terribly terribly sad! I hope he will come to a realization that the only creator in this universe is GOD.


todd saed   September 11th, 2010 5:52 am ET

Yoga can bring you to God scientifically, through direct experience,
holy scriptures indicate he wants you to be perfect like Him, and create your own universes, fulfull your own destiny, be a friend, sibling, parent, or soul mate to God as suits your Nature. I was vibed by God in 1966 in the army, a consciousness of infinite mercy and love outside the universe, quite incomprehensible , terrifying and awe inspiring, alll the answers are in you, Hawkings says time and space being connected , there was no time before anything, so maybe the Tao or motherly void has other anwers about where God came from,
to find yourself, or the Large Hadron Collider will open a door to the spiritual sky, a great adventure, the unknown, getting better from the known, nobody can tell you, you know inside, that is God there too.


Tony   September 11th, 2010 5:53 am ET

Correction:

God is the Universe. Science is the human attempt to know and describe God.


Marlon   September 11th, 2010 5:55 am ET

If there was a god, why don`t he interfere in all these armed conflict that are going on in the world. That is my proof that there is no god.

God was made up by the church, and the church has always prosecuted science.

Just take a look at world history, people where offer/kill to pray to a god for good harvest.

THERE` S IS NO GOD AND THAT IS THE REALITY


Ronnie Goh   September 11th, 2010 5:55 am ET

We must first understand the different between Science and Religion. Science is facts reasoning from our understanding while Religion is the spiritual realms related to our spirit and soul. Science cannot explain religion with logic based outside spirit and soul understandings.


wael alsinan   September 11th, 2010 5:55 am ET

To me to if someone is certain about God’s existence is the same as someone who is certain about his inexistence. In other words, the question about God’s existence/non-existence will continue forever and no one will have enough evidence satisfying everyone about “the fact”.
In simple terms: Larry King asked in this very program how this globe could be made of nothing? The answer is another question: Who created god out of nothing? People who has faith in God chose to stop searching at this question while scientist don’t .

Wael Alsinan
Saudi Arabia


Ogundokun kennie Nigeria   September 11th, 2010 5:55 am ET

Proof That God Created the Universe

* Creating
* God

Bible Summary. The world around us is the best evidence and proof that God created the universe. The very existence of the universe cannot be understood or explained using our five senses. The actual creation of this world was a miracle and cannot be explained by natural phenomenon. Only a supernatural force such as God could have been behind the supernatural act of creation. Only a supernatural person such as God can make something out of nothing. Only God can breathe life to create life and our own soul. The Biblical commentary and scriptures below provides proof that God created the universe. Key Bible verses: John 1:3, Hebrews 11:3, Genesis 2:7, and Romans 1:20.


Zul Mooraj   September 11th, 2010 5:56 am ET

A very interesting show. Loved it. Would be good to redo this one and include memebers for various faiths. Personally i like the angle of Physics. Have always been of the opinion that Physics is the mother of sciences and can explain just about everything. A quation to the physiscits would be: Are they basing their work on the known diemensions of life. Could it be that the nothingness is simply a space between diemensions and hence depending in which set of diemensions we stand in currently we can explain the appreance of something from nothing. Rather could it be that the something moves between sets of dimensions?

Deepak puts a interesting angel to everything.


Wasiq Rafiq   September 11th, 2010 5:56 am ET

Ofcourse God created earth and physics, like all other subjects, is nothing else but God's way of answering questions and clearing confusion.


Ogundokun kennie Nigeria   September 11th, 2010 5:57 am ET

Denying That God Created the Universe.

There is too much evidence in the world, to include the actual creation of world, to deny and ask if there a God. Without God there is no adequate explanation of how the universe was created or to explain our purpose in life . It is amazing that so many people believe that God is a fable, and they will go to such lengths to disprove that there is not a God. In the final analysis, people deny God so that they can put their interests above God, their Creator. Key Bible Scripture: Romans 1:20 advices us that existence of the Universe itself is evidence that there is a God ...


Allura Tidy Tolouei   September 11th, 2010 5:57 am ET

To human beings who tend to be more materialistic there is such a thing called nothingness. To the Infinite Creator nothingness is the creative factor of All-Life. It is where everything is generated from both visible and invisible.

When we see the order of life from the smallest creature to the universe, we can readily see that there is a Mind that engineers, that architects, that manages all perfectly.

We may call this Mind the Unknowbale Essence, God or the Creator, the All-Powerful, the All-Knowing, the Wise. In whatever language we call God, Allah,Yahweh or Dios. We know that there is an "Entity" that rules, commands, and regulate life, micro or macro.

This Unknowable Essence is involved in the origin of life.


Messenger of the Lord   September 11th, 2010 5:59 am ET

"Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe." – 1 Corithians 1:20,21


Marco M   September 11th, 2010 5:59 am ET

we are the creators! we created the earth were we live! we are part of the energy called God, we create and destroy just like the wind, do not see it but can fee it! No God no religions equals peace....


Jeanne Smith   September 11th, 2010 5:59 am ET

I believe God made it all and we must worship Him as the owner of the universe. God's government is a government of freedom and fulfillment.


Bela Gupta   September 11th, 2010 6:00 am ET

..i believe in the power of science and nothing, some call it God other nothing.. i am glad there is a creator and his creation.. call it religion, spirituality, science or just faith.. it still proves nothing, does matter..


Kene Edward   September 11th, 2010 6:04 am ET

Our understanding of fundamental laws is not sufficient to dispute the existence of a creator. If you put a monkey in an air-conditioned building with light bulbs which come on and go off at certain times, those phenomena become fundamental to the monkey and to its offspring. Since those laws are basic to them, the existence of humans becomes unnecessary in explaining their world. Therefore, humans should not take their understanding of gravity and other elementary forces as the only factors necessary to solve the mystery of the universe’s creation. Over time, we have discovered that some of our scientific laws have not been as fundamental as we thought. Science does well to explain the nature of our physical environment but has not done so well in addressing the issue our consciousness. This consciousness is not unique to man and is in fact a property of the universe. It exists out there. Everything we are made of came from the universe. It existed way back as the universe formed and who is to say if it did not precede the creation of the physical universe.

When someday, the monkey in the building discovers electrical wiring that disappears into the ground, it would agree that the power in the building comes from nothingness. That nothingness is the evidence of humans – the proof of man or some external intelligence. The nothingness our scientific knowledge has so far led us to is the proof of a creator. And that creator is God.


Toni   September 11th, 2010 6:06 am ET

Are we hopeless? Is that why we do scientific research, believe in God and try to understand so we can be aware? Is awareness is going to make us more happy?
What happens if we do understand everything and we have power to control and make it perfect? Are we going to be happier?


Danish Hamid Hussain   September 11th, 2010 6:06 am ET

This is a biased survey and interview, 4 Major Sects / believers in the program without any Islamic Scholar. With all due respect to guests and host. In-order for the world to believe your point, you must look at it from all angles and not refuse 1 (one) which is one of the largest views in the world with most latest preachings. I hope this comments will be used for future references.


Muad Taher   September 11th, 2010 6:08 am ET

The human brain is limited , because it's been created by another creator
So alot of things are hard or imposible to comperhend and understand , the human brain can only get what it is allowed to get , the questining about such a thing prove that we were created by another higher power .
And some people find the answer in their faith or riligious books such as Muslims and christians , in Qur'an , Bible and Torah


Best Anonymous   September 11th, 2010 6:11 am ET

Science is God's invention. Science has been and still is a tool created by God, to design the universe and its content, in the same way we create tools to make different things, from simple pins to very complex space shuttles.
Saying that Science can explain the Universe and there's no need of a creator implies that other creatures in the universe (if they exist) can also think about us that tools humans used to design space shuttles are sufficient to explain their existence and there's no need of a creator. That's to say, that other creatures might think that our space shuttles or human-made satellites created itself from an unknown science to them (if they don't know about human). They will find a way to explain how our shuttles or satellites work, they will identify different components and materials.
But it doesn't mean that we, humans, didn't created them.

God is the inventor of all science, and he used science for creation.

As a matter of fact, humans are learning to discover God's tools, and we are far away to learn everything. and it's just dumb to think that the tool owner doesn't exist or has nothing to do with it, just because we have made an unsignificant progress on it.

We have still many to learn.

It's a dangerous game to try to explain things with science, having the idea that science is self-sufficient.


Don Scott   September 11th, 2010 6:14 am ET

One real proof of crearion is that we and all living things could not have evolved into two sexes whose bodies work together in a very complicated process to pertuate the species. Also, all living things have a predetermined lifespan. If we evolved, at least some things would have evolved into a much longer lifespan.


TOPE   September 11th, 2010 6:14 am ET

God exists and He created the universe.
This is why its impossible for sciences to explain the creation of the universe completely.
Believe it or not, God is greater than man and sciences


Imad   September 11th, 2010 6:19 am ET

According to the "Big Bang", the whole universe was initially one big mass (primary nebula). Then there was a "Big Bang" (Secondary Separation), which resulted in the formation of Galaxies. These then divided to form stars, planets, the Sun, the Moon, etc. The origin of the universe was unique and the probability of it occuring by 'chance' is zero. Science itself and the laws of physics were put in place by the architect of the Universe which is "The Creator" of the existance of all things. Doesn't Mr. Hawkins see that the Heavens and the Earth were joined together(as one), before they were torn apart. What caused them to become what they are? Chance? No way ! Nothing happens by itself, there is a cause and that is 'GOD'.


Mike Santon   September 11th, 2010 6:23 am ET

As a child I believed in God because my parents did. As a young adult I became an agnostic. Now in my 50's I am a confirmed and devout athiest who finds the idea of a god absurd much like a belief in Santa Clause.
I think religion came to exist to explain the unexplainable, and as a method of controlling the population and is a harmful influence on society.
If there was a God, who or what created it?
I feel no doubt that someday science will be able to explain how life came to be and that explanation will not require any god.


Kabuchu   September 11th, 2010 6:32 am ET

Quite an interesting interview. Thanks. Raises as many questions as does King Solomon in Eclesiastics in the Bible. Solomon talks about how everything has ever existed! That is how I undertsand Hawking's concept of time.


Akeem   September 11th, 2010 6:32 am ET

Mr Larry,
I felt you should have invited a muslim scholar along with the pastor to explain the existence of God; the Quran has scientifical, mathematical, biological evidence that will proof God's existence, and no scientist will be able to refute such claim. Example, is the miracle of numbers: Allah said in one of the verses that over the whole Quran are 19, Allah's name is mentioned 2698 times in the Quran, it is a division of 19, the Quran chapters are 114, division of 19. Just to mention a view.
Thank you.


musikpal   September 11th, 2010 6:34 am ET

I do respect his work, but to ask "if God created the universe, then who created God?", Mr. Hawking must haven't thought this problem through yet. If God created the universe, then shouldn't God be outside and in control of His creation, including ALL natural laws? Just as we can't figure out what's beyond infinity, we can't understand God's being. Can infinity be contained? For us, the answer is no, but for God, it must be yes if He created it. If God can contain the infinity, how would He do it? That's something we will never know because we will never understand infinity, just like we can't explain to our dog or cat why we go to work in the morning. So if God created the infinity, then why should God need to be created? Think about it.

As the Bible said, In the beginning n b4 anything(not quote), I am.


Nikki   September 11th, 2010 7:01 am ET

Science has solved the greatest mysteries regarding God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

But, then it is said in Revelation 10:7, that when the 7th angel shall begin to sound, the "mystery of God" should be finished.

Has the mystery of God been finished???

Was Christ referring to WWI and WWII, the Holocaust, the rise of rights movements, and people against people???

Has God's gospel reached all corners of the earth as Christ proclaimed it would before "the end" (in Mathew 24)?


Dan   September 11th, 2010 8:17 am ET

Hello Larry: I watch your show when ever possible. Mr. Hawking & his band of "Think-Tankers" are all lost Deep in Space, in the Outer Limits of the Twilight Zone. I think they are out on some kind of Cosmic Limb & are about to fall into a Black-Hole ! They remind me of what St. Paul said in the Bible..."They are ever-learning, but never able to come to the knowlege of the truth"! I think "ourenglishroots" on Twitter, was right about Evolution & Modern Day Think-Tankers. As Indiana Jones said..."They are looking in the wrong place"!


Lee Lewis   September 11th, 2010 9:47 am ET

In the first place, I can't understand why a creator God would allowed killing to exist in his master plan. If this world is a peaceful place to live, I would have accepted the concept of a personal god creator. Frankly speaking, I think the creator God concept is nothing more than economy, greed, politics, power and a lot of stupidity created by a small group of opportunists and unscrupulous people to control the bigger group of innocent people with iron rods. We often heard blind believers screaming and wielding the holy books or swords of their brains exclaming "God is great:. Fortunately there are wise people who dare to speak up throught the history of time in the like of Galileo, Democritus, Diagoras, Epicurus, Buddha, Albert Einstein, Aristotle, Bertrand Russel, Carl Jung, Nietzsche, Sigmund Freud, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkin and Charles Darwin, to name a few.


Mazen Alak   September 11th, 2010 9:52 am ET

Neither I or any human being can answer these questions about 'creation',but God himself only gives us the answers to these questions. I would like to advice Mr. Larry King,his guests,and anybody -who would like to know what we are doing in this universe and why-to read the Quran. All the answers are available and I am sure that if anybody reads the Quran that they will be sure that they are really the words of God.
You don't have anything to loose,so why not read it !!!


Mazen Alak   September 11th, 2010 10:19 am ET

Why did God create us? God created mankind to worship him and are granted the choice to do so. Unlike angels who are created to worship without a choice.

You can picture life like an exame. We come to life ,we grow,we are giving the mind,we are giving the choice,the exame comes to an end and we die.After death we each get our grades. We either pass the exame our fail. That is our life in brief and I will like to remind again that if anybody would like to get answers about this Universe they should read the Quran. God gives us scientific proof about all of our questions.

One of the facts in the Quran is that God orderd all creations(earth,sun,moon,stars,animals,mountans,oceans,everything we know and don't know)to serve mankind only!!! THINK ABOUT THAT!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SCIENTIST TO SEE THAT!!!


Brian Daly   September 11th, 2010 10:37 am ET

Just watched your excellent discussion on Stephen Hawking's book – great questions – excellent replies on a sunny saturday afternoon in Ireland
As a paid up Catholic professional engineer 80 years since birth and having read Eddington back in the 50s I'm happy to understand that present day physics raises more questions than it answers. You could say that every answer just raises more questions
At this point in my life I am very interested in the question "What happens next" . Nobody knows what happens after we die but isn't it a great question! – Do we recycle and come back again, do we depart to some distant galaxy to start on a new project, are we issued with a harp on arrival at the Pearly Gates and sent on a (Heavenly) music course?


George Gough   September 11th, 2010 10:37 am ET

The debate made it clear that there is only the thinnest proof for the existence of a God and even clearer how absurd it is for humans to practice the religious extremes that they do. One safe conclusion is clear: worship the majesty of nature, and that alone is sufficient.


Tim Marrin   September 11th, 2010 10:52 am ET

"A judicious question of the obvious may well be a mark of genius."
Stephen Hawking stated that "God may exist...", if so, how does science explain God?


Cozette   September 11th, 2010 11:06 am ET

Thank you Larry and Mr. Hawking, funny, but last night's show just reinforced my faith that there is a God Who is creator, who created something out of nothing and calls things that are not as though they were, there is always the faith factor and for me, it is a sure thing.


Cat   September 11th, 2010 11:15 am ET

The universe is infinite and eternal; it had no beginning and will have no end; God had no beginning and will have no end. He is the eternal "I am".
God is the intelligence of the universe, its dynamics; the universe is God expressing himself and creating in all kinds of ways – galaxies, stars, nebulas, planets and you and me. He can do anything you can imagine and everything you can't imagine. There most definitely is intelligent design in the universe and God is constantly creating, but He 'always' has been, and all this of course from the 'perception' of human beings with very limited sensing abilities. How would the universe and our concept of God look from an unimaginable perspective, from a perspective other than human?


Steve in Ponte Vedra   September 11th, 2010 11:25 am ET

Thank you, Larry, for providing the high point of many years of watching CNN. We need more of this!


Melba Abelardo   September 11th, 2010 12:14 pm ET

Beware of those who claim that everything can be explained using only what is observable at the moment. Even with the use of modern technology, science is still in its infancy, and we have a whole future ahead of us that may disprove present accepted knowledge. It is like a child trying to explain the complexities of life to another. When the child matures, do you think his understanding would still be the same?

To imply that we don't need a higher Power to turn to is the height of arrogance. The release of this opinion expressed by Stephen Hawking makes this a good time to read various Scriptural writings inspired by the Eternal Wisdom, that reveals Itself only to those who are humble. I truly feel sorry for him and those whose lives are devoid of inner faith in God. I doubt that they are able to recognize Truth when they encounter It. Their total trust in the powers of their own understanding will be a major hindrance to the rich and rewarding life beyond what the senses can enjoy.


Al Pollack   September 11th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

5,000 + years ago, in wanting to cope with thei anxieties and enigmas of life, man developed answers to help live the best they could with what they knew at that time. These answers became the bible with moral codes and ethics and man created God to provide comfort and faith to the people.

If they had the benefit of science and knowledge that we have learned over 5,000 years, would they have believed that "God" could have created the universe in 7 days that science has proved that life and the universe developed over thousands of millenniums ?

Unfortunately, different faiths and sects developed their own "Gods" which caused the tragic deaths of millions of innocents and were massacred as infidels because of the difference in their religious beliefs. These massacres continue to thls day. Religion is truly responsible
for the largest cause of deaths in our history.

With this knowledge, I wonder if they could have developed the moral codes and ethics without all of the differences in their beliefs that led to crusades to proselytize their religions causing millions to be killed or massacred..

Unfortunately, they didn’t have this knowledge. If they did, I wonder what the different religions of the world would be like today.


RPN   September 11th, 2010 1:08 pm ET

I love how ignorants talk about the limits of science and in the same breath praise the fantasies, myths, and stories of religion, all the while doing so on their laptops and WIFI, which are based on the principles of quantum mechanics which were once "scientific speculation" and then driving to their churches on GPS systems which are based on the principles of general relativity. Professor Hawking and scientists that came before him have made these technologies possible. Science and medicine are real, their works have affected your lives more than any inconsistent collection of mythologies written by mortal men with their own agendas, thousands of years ago in a desert and hundreds of years after the birth of Christ. They claimed details which they did not and could not have known. It is the religious fervents who are the arrogant ones.


Talley from Kansas   September 11th, 2010 1:16 pm ET

Mr. Hawking calls the great stuff of the universe "nothingness". How about calling it "the great silence". All of the great power of the universe is enveloped in this silence. Energy waves in and out of existence silently. Science knows this happens, but cannot explain how it happens. If there was a "big bang", did it come silently or from a noisy universe? All of the great energy of nature begins in silence: a wave in the ocean, a seed underground, a lightning bolt or a thunderclap. I have great difficulty with this word god whom we call he as if a person. If there is a creator, is it in that great silence?


Suresh   September 11th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

Again science is trying to explain which already exists but no day it could comeup with an idea that will create anything out of nothing. who ordered Gravity to bind things and not to make things fall apart. Don't we think that someone has implicitly designed Gravity to do the job that's currenly doing ?


Jane Cheah   September 11th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

I am a Buddhist and Buddhism does not believe in a Creator God but that there is the existence of "God" in one of the 31 planes of existence .

According to Buddhism, there is no beginning nor end and the explanation for the existence of the Universe and all beings is quite similar to what Stephen Hawking explains. It is very scientific, involves a lot of understanding of physics and metaphysics and the majority of us find it difficult to understand. BUT being difficult to understand does not mean that this theory does not exist or wrong . Human nature is such that we prefer to believe or disillusion ourselves with the Creator God theory because it is simple and easy to understand and also for many, it feels safe that we have the concept of God to depend on for anything.

Buddhism has a lot of science in it and the Buddha always invite all to test his teachings before believing and following any of them. There is no such thing as blind faith and it needs patience to test out each teaching. I do hope that CNN or Discovery Channel or National Geographic would explore the Buddhist explanation on the creator of Universe and all beings with scientists . Get prominent Theravada Buddhist monks to talk about it and there are a few good ones in America who are very knowledgeable and can speak English very well...Sri Lankan and a few Burmese monks are some examples of Theravada monks. The Buddhist teachings from India originated from the Theravada discipline , the suttas are originated from there, in Pali language.


Jay Oakcliff   September 11th, 2010 2:22 pm ET

Excellent show, Larry. Congratulations on elevating television to a higher plane. Clearly, from the comments below, some people understood the discussion. Sadly, most did not.

Nevertheless, please, keep the momentum. This type of television is sorely needed. Hopefully your successor will keep it up.


Catherine from Canfield,OH   September 11th, 2010 2:46 pm ET

The ancient Greeks believed, "Strong body, strong mind. Weak body, weak mind." In my opinion, this man is in the latter category.
The following was written by a family member and reflects how we should all be on our perspective of Stephen Hawking;
"God have mercy on his soul, for he knows not what he does... God is hurting for him. When asked what gives his life meaning, he said he has a full life and loves his family...IS HIS FAMILY NOT A MIRACLE? How can he look at his precious children and loving wife and not know that something higher had to have blessed him with that. Also, after being diagnosed with ALS, he was given 2 years...he has lived 45 more... 1) Isn't THAT a MIRACLE? Wasn't SCIENCE proven WRONG? 2) Did he ever consider that maybe God has giving him time to consider his denial of Him...and he still hasn't gotten it? It is interesting... If God were such a moot point, WHY does everyone try to deny Him?" I say,simply said!


jf   September 11th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

Dr. Mlodinow said that things can come from nothingness and that this has been tested and confirmed many times in the laboratory. I don't believe what they had in the laboratory was true "nothingness" and I don't think other people should believe this either.


Rayaan Shafi   September 11th, 2010 5:34 pm ET

That's the whole point of science, which is, to explain the universe without invoking a Creator. So, I don't see anything special or new about what Hawking's idea that a God is not necessary to create the universe. Everyone already knows that the role of a physicist is to explain the universe without caring about what God is doing. That's a given. However, I don't think that science can answer everything about the universe even if we find a "Theory of Everything." There are certain things which are beyond the scope of scientific investigation. This is where religion and faith comes into play along with reason, philosophy, and logical thinking. God gave us a brain to use all those things and to create a meaning out of lives.


alfredo   September 11th, 2010 5:44 pm ET

Before Stephen Hawkins, at their meetings, scientists would say: "in God we trust, everyone else, bring data. Now, they say: EVERYONE bring data (sorry God, no exceptions).


Strephanie   September 11th, 2010 5:49 pm ET

I want to know, when you ask these amazing men about GOD, what is the definition of GOD that they are reacting and responding to?
What do they think GOD is?


Umakant   September 11th, 2010 5:55 pm ET

1. As long as Science cannot come to grips with the concept Consciousness, it cannot justify non relevance of divine aspects.

2. The limited nature of the capabilities of mortal human beings, it is not possible to understand the timeless state of the so called nothingness.

3. The only way to get the total understanding is only when we become immortal.


T. Goerman   September 11th, 2010 5:58 pm ET

We have, the invitation penned by the prophet Isaiah that directs us to increase our understanding of the One responsible for the creation around us:
(Isaiah 40:26) “Raise YOUR eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them
(stars) even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing.
This brings up a fact consistent with Einstein’s well-known formula E=mc2. That fact is that the universe was produced by a source of dynamic energy and power.
The source of that dynamic power and energy is the almighty sovereign of the universe "Jehovah God."


A Disciple for God   September 11th, 2010 6:39 pm ET

Since man thinks he is so smart.....and man thinks he knows how a universe is made....Mr. Stephen Hawkins and Mr. Physicist... Can you please answer for me one simple question. You both say that the universe made itself from nothingness with the help of gravitational law and scientific actions ........But my Bible says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Answer me this....When did nothingness begin?? According to your theory of the Big Bang and nothingness making the universe, you must surely know when nothingness came into existence. When did nothingness begin? I will say to all of the people that think they are so smart, they don't need GOD. Don't be a fool! Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.


Lois from Tucson   September 11th, 2010 7:38 pm ET

There is no room for emotion in science. If you believe in religion, and you have faith...fine; but don't mix the two for the rest of us. Fact is truth. You'll never convince those of us who don't believe in a "Creator"–so stop wasting your breath and your time. Religion has served the wealthy and powerful very well as a divisive force. When money and power is distributed to the very few, they need something to keep the rest of us "hordes at bay", and that's always been religion. When religion's used as a force for good–caring for the sick, helping the poor and disabled, loving thy neighbor, fighting for the common good; the power of goodness is shown. Lip service from faith fanatics is useless and detrimental to your cause–the real power is actions through your deeds.


raymond greene   September 11th, 2010 8:12 pm ET

The only way we will find out about that question is ,when we depart this world and enter into the kingdom of GOD. So untill then, enjoy , and stop confusion your minds


harvey dodds   September 11th, 2010 8:29 pm ET

Yes there is a GOD! Yes there is dirt beneath my feet and a sun over my head. Difference being, one is my belief the other my reality. I believe in GOD everytime my bare feet touch soft, new ploughed soil and I believe in GOD everytime I raise my face to a warm spring sun. Science may explain it, but my GOD makes me feel it! My GOD I should add, belongs to NO organized religion (the bane of the world) ,but in my own mind, where I believe everyones should. thx


Edwin   September 11th, 2010 8:30 pm ET

it is interesting to note, that every since, at least dating back to Copernicus, it has always been the "religious" masses, the ones who have been quick to jump to attack and ridicule the scientificly inclined few. the point being, is that those who take "beliefs" and "opinions" very personal, are usually in the wrong...there are no beliefs, or personal opinions, in science.


Richard Weiss   September 11th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

Science is mankinds Creation. In the Grand Order Design, mankind is the first order intelligent mobile unit. Mankind perceives and observes nothingness. That is why we are only a first order mobile intelligent unit. Enjoy life and keep the faith.


RPN   September 11th, 2010 11:47 pm ET

"We have heores in science. In my own field of physics and cosmology we have heores like Albert Einstein and Edwin Hubble. We have lots of heroes but they are not prophets. These are not people whose words we remember and go back to for guidance in our scientific research. No one today goes back to read Einstein's scientific papers (except for historical interest) because any graduate student today understands general relativity better than Einstein did. Our subject is a cumulative one! As much as we honor Einstein, no one would dream of settling a scientific dispute by asking 'what did Einstein say about this?'. Looking at the state of the world today, of people who are willing to kill each other because of religious certainty, because of books written thousands of years ago supposedly by GOD, we need more heroes, and fewer prophets"

- Steven Weinberg, PhD
Nobel Laureate Physics 1979


Rick Cohen   September 12th, 2010 12:00 am ET

As long as the human being cannot create "a" universe, it is God who created it. The human being can analyze many things that God created, but cannot create anything. Anything a human being does, it's with what God created. Go ahead, create a baby from nothing with your hands...... There is a global tendency from a "certain" group to mve God aside. Why? What is wrong with believing in God??? Well, it is understandable that those who want to be unfair may hate God.... It is understandable that those who want to commit crime may hate God... It is understandable that those who want to eliminate justice may hate God... Scientology for example purges people from all believes, including the believe in God, as could be understood from articles on the internet... If the non-powerfull does not hold on to the Word of God, there will be great turbulence most probably... Think think think... It is through the discovery of God that justice was born.


jayke   September 12th, 2010 12:02 am ET

it's unfortunate many of the posts here completely miss the point of hawking/mlodinow.

they are saying that science can explain, with certainty, that the universe was created 13B years ago, evolution explains with certainty that man evolved on earth from a single-celled organism through to today.

everything else, God, extraterrestrials, religion, spirituality, consciousness has zero basis in reality, is not tangible, not provable in any way.

this is NO WAY suggests there is no God. The burden of proof is not on science, it's on those who suggest they exist.


Gordon   September 12th, 2010 1:16 am ET

This show was most interesting, provocative, intellectually mesmerizing shows you ever did! Bar None! I could have listened to your panel discuss the existance of God in the creation of the universe for hours. It was incredible listening to your panel of guests giving their thoughts and insite on an amazing and perplexing topic. Wow.


Greg   September 12th, 2010 3:10 am ET

You NEED to give Fr. Spitzer more opportunity to explain his exceptional new book!!


Diane Wilson   September 12th, 2010 7:03 am ET

Thank you for this brilliantly intelligent discussion. When Larry King has subjects and guests like this it puts it in a class above all other talk shows. Many congratulations! I couldn't have loved it more!


makingsense   September 12th, 2010 9:35 am ET

All these comments...and i have not seen one that states, can you prove that god exist.....religion has been around so long, we know nothing else. science can prove many of things, can anyone prove that God exist, the answer is NO. You want to put down science, but we can see it, all around us, there is science everywhere. Until you can prove that God exist, you cannot put science on the back burner, its in your face. When is the last time you seen God in your face. Didnt think so.


Dan   September 12th, 2010 12:53 pm ET

Just this morning 09/12/2010 at 1:30am, a metaphorical sparrow awoke me with a message. He said that he was sent by the One who knows, and that I must get up and write this down, lest I forget or discard this as a silly dream. Here is what the sparrow said:

"I am sending this message through the simplest of means so that all who seek the truth with humility can see it, and can know the answers to questions that plagues their minds. I do this because arrogance has blinded all that posses it, and has been the original cause of all your discord.
What are you?
You are only two things of all possibilities. One portion of you is physical and is bound to the first thing, which is the Universe. The other portion is your intangible spirit, which is a second thing, and is similar to the laws that govern the Universe, or in modern terms, software. Your two parts are separate and cannot affect each other directly, even though they both are embodied in you.
Your Universe is just one finite thing of many identical but individual pieces, and all of its apparent properties; time, matter with its own properties, space, and energy, come from one unifying source on a continuing basis. Its existence is the result of what you think of as the expansion of space. It had no beginning in the time sense, because time is only a property of the Universe.
Your spiritual intangible part is your conscious mind that is aware, can reason and understand what I am saying. Like the Universe, your spirit is continuing to be created and your knowledge and awareness grows. You can use spiritual tools like mathematics, to better understand the behavior of the Universe, but your understanding and awareness of those laws still cannot affect them in any way, nor can be the cause of any existence. Your confusion in this matter comes because the behavior of the Universe is governed by a spiritual type law which comes from outside of it, and is similar to your own spiritual nature.
As for why you exist … because I love."

It is now 3:00am, and I am finished writing. Going back to bed.
Dan


Vicki   September 12th, 2010 12:56 pm ET

Hi, I watched the Stephen Hawking show and was amazed no one mentioned enlightentment or Christ Consciousness as evidence of God,
as this is the ultimate merging with the divine. Also, it seems everybody wants to label God as an entity, where for me God is omnipotent energy, present everywhere, from gravity or anything else required for creation. I think it´s kind of funny I did not once hear the word love, for to me, that is what God is, Love.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest! There is much more, as is with this topic, but I think these are the most important ones for me.


Prince   September 12th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

I have read most of the comments. And find some comments that deserve to be posted here, but so many of the comments are rubbish. Most of the comments are by religious people or people of faith. And they all seem to worry about the absurdity that comes out of these physicist's mouth. But the real problem is people are thinking along the wrong lines. God could exist. God might not exist. But the true question is if GOD exists which GOD is it. Which team should I support. And by the way, The Bible is not the oldest religious scripture. Religion is fine with me, but we have maniacs who are willing to shed blood on the name of their superstar on their team ( meaning their GOD). Now that is the problem. Now yes their are questions that still need answers. But just because I don't know X does not mean its god. And again followers of religion seem to say humans are so complex which means their must have been a creator to create these amazing beasts. But then who created the complex man who can hear our thoughts, and see everything. Must not this man be more complex and by following your logic be created by someone of higher hierarchy. Humans can reason, and followers of religion should be rational and ask questions about their religion and other religion. Ponder this... If their was no HELL or Heaven, would you still believe in the God you claim to worship?


PAUL E. ROSENBERG   September 12th, 2010 2:29 pm ET

REVISED AND SHORTENED BLOG. PLEASE REVIEW AND POST!
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STEPHEN HAWKING, G0D EXISTS!

It's explained in the letter I sent you in 2003. THE SOULOGRAPHIC PRINCIPLE, proves that G0D is a multi-dimensional geometric filter that separates the 3 energy forces in the universe. Once you understand the 10 dimensions, and how they interact with the pure energy forces, everything syncs up and it's possible to think and communicate far beyond any speed and distance previously imaginable!


Alexander Supertramp   September 12th, 2010 4:58 pm ET

Gordon, I think "Danicng with the Stars" episodes wrere pretty darn close!


Dave Zirpoli   September 12th, 2010 5:44 pm ET

After reading most of these comments,I'm beginning to understand how Jesus suffered in the garden. He saw how many lost souls who don't believe in Almighty God.. How Sad!
It's also sad that the great gift given to Stephen Hawkins(limited intelligence). He is misusing it for his selfish means to try to disprove the one who gave him the gift. Everything (good) you have is from God. Someday,each one of you who is a nonbeliever will come face to face with the Almighty (Just) God. He is a merciful God now but then he will be a just God. I pray it won't be too late for you then. We will have two choices: Heaven or Hell for eternity!
You can say You don't believe in Heaven or Hell (how Sad).But it's the truth and the truth doesn't change,whether you belive or not.
Each human being will spend eternity in Heaven or Hell,it's your choice! Think of eternity-never ending we can't comprehend it just like we can't comprehend the Almighty God who loves each one of us . Who gave his life for each one of us ,would we do the same!


John Skorupa   September 12th, 2010 7:30 pm ET

I do not believe that any person that has ever lived or is living now or is destined to live will ever be able to understand the incomprehensible mystery of the universe.

I do believe however that it is within my very limited reasoning ability based on my observations to accept the union of the Sun and Earth as god because it is through the mysterious combination of their properties that temporary life on our planet has been enabled and sustained.

As this works for me I don't have any desire to convince others that I am right.


Noorunisa   September 12th, 2010 8:56 pm ET

Ah . . . how the mind struggles to know that which cannot be known through the mind . . .


mj   September 12th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

I do not BELIEVE God exists. I KNOW GOD IS REAL. I too thought I was so smart to try to explain things with my little mind but when my husband became so changed overnight I could not explain it. I began for the first time to think that there just might be something to this. You have to take a foolish leap of faith to think that 2000 years ago someone came to earth and died on the cross to pay for your sins past, present and future. This is not something to be rationalized with our human mind. I started to seek God with all my focus, "I want to meet you" I kept saying all day long and I started to read about Jesus in the Bible. Three days later I met God. I will never be the same. I look at everything differently. I am a new person. I know He is real, I know I am His precious creation and He knows my every thought. I don't care if the whole world thinks I am crazy, I just feel so sorry that they do not have what I have. You can explain away all of your scientific logic with every calculation imaginable, but I know what I know, what I know. Do not be so smart that you miss out!


noitallornothin   September 12th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Jeeeeeeeezz.... how narrow minded do you think god is?


Cajazz76:24:8   September 12th, 2010 11:01 pm ET

noitallornothin

It's probable the narrowness cannot be measured...caj


Matt   September 13th, 2010 1:49 am ET

Innately Mans EGO just isn`t happy till he can portray himself to be God and lord over another man or mankind or even the world, whether it be by force, intellect or greed, man tries with what ever resource he has until he reaches his limit !

IF THE STATE OF THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH TO SHOW HOW OMNIPOTENT "MAN THINKS HE IS", WHILE DENYING GODS WISDOM AND PRINCIPLES FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE, THEN ASK YOURSELF????????????
WHY IS THE WORLD IN SUCH DEVASTATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
GENERATIONS THAT HAVE DISREGARDED GODS TRUTHS HAVE BROUGHT US RIGHT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE EVEN BLAME GOD ,BUT GENERATIONS OF HUMANS HAVE BROUGHT IT UPON OURSELVES, ECOLOGICALLY = PHYSICALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY= EMOTIONALLY. WE CONTINUE TO REAP AND SOW MORE OF THE SAME.
A WORLD WHO COVERS OUR SIN WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RUN FROM THE WORLD WHERE IN!
ARE THERE NOT 7 DAYS IN THE WEEK! WHO PROFESSED IT AND WHO CREATED IT , AREN`T WE LIVING IN IT ????


Warren brown   September 13th, 2010 2:13 am ET

Three most recent events that prove the Lord is Our God.

1. God shook the earth in haiti. After all the buildings were crumbled what stood alone? The cross of Christ, amidst all the people. what a coincidence?

2. God shook the earth in new zealand: What city was it in? Christ Church and not a soul was Lost. "Christ Church" what a coincidence?

3. A lightning Bolt struck one of the worlds largest statues of christ; broke it in half and it remained upright with his arms out stretched.
what a coincidence?

The lord our God is very real and so are the the signs being revealed. WAKE UP PEOPLE! BEFOR IT'S TO LATE.


Antonio_NJ   September 13th, 2010 3:10 am ET

My mind wanders off to a place that i am sure i will never reach in this life time when ever i even try to ponder the whats, the whys, the hows of this magnificent universe. And this is what keeps me sane, to believe that there is no GOD( gonna use creator instead) or creator is ok, but if that is true then our time here on earth is pointless and there is where that thought ceases to exist in my mind. I believe that we are all here for a reason, the reason, dont know it yet. Nevertheless we are here and we are being judged on a daily basis. Then the question arises, how could someone or something know how every human being has or has not lived. One theory i came up with was that we all have a brain and in that brain lies a humans most intimate secrets, so with far more advanced technologies than ours any knowingly unrighteous act perfomed could be Queried and then scored and this score could be tallied up, and if a person did more bad then good they are in for it, the it i dont know it yet but im assuming its something bad. Just a thought ,i just came up with that you know. Anyway to believe that the universe came from nothing is ok but incomprehensible, our world is to beautiful and vast to believe that there is no creator, Sorry sir but your math is wrong on this one this time.


Antonio_NJ   September 13th, 2010 3:20 am ET

Almost forgot, less than a grain of sand on a beach is the time we have spent on earth yet in this short period of time we have created other humans(Clones) if that isnt enough proof that there is a higher intelligence somewhere out there with the power to create i believe is just ignorant.


G   September 13th, 2010 7:27 am ET

I'm not sure why in 2010 this is such a touchy topic ? The truth is there for all to see,touch and feel.Larry and his guests handled the hour with class and grace on both sides.


Rick Cohen   September 13th, 2010 9:25 am ET

Cajazz76:24:8 if you cannot understand or don't want to understand God, a different dimension than daily life, you will lack happiness. A higher level of thinking is required here. God's Word civilized the world you are in right now, in case you did not know. Else, anybody could kill you and it would have been considered all right; no justice. That which you feel is right, is not right if it does not agree with God's Word, which is the highest truth ever. Get the point? If that which you think is right, is indeed right, it will agree with God's Word. God's Word is the utmost reference for goodness. If a judge gives the right verdict, it for sure agrees with God's Word. If a judge is unfair in his verdict it is because his verdict does not agree with God's Word. What argument are you going to use if someone does something wrong to you? Are you going to say: "it is not rght because I think. or I feel ......." The reply will be: "well IIII think or feel......" Now what???? Why the use of a bible in court? The highest justice......


Ken Drury   September 13th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

I definitely find all discussion interesting. However, can science prove whether god/creator (or whatever culture lens you view this concept) exists or not, I think can never be proven. The concept of M-theory and parallel dimensions provide an unique perception into the whole idea of existence. One can never know where or when the universe began, so the mind can only dance on the fringe of creation, never actually knowing it. There is something that spawned all of phenomena, but what that is I don't venture to even begin to understand. This arena is left to belief and curiosity of the spirit.


Belle   September 13th, 2010 1:51 pm ET

Jean from Toronto, you are so right on!!! Every time I hear about Deepak my heart skips a beat just thinking of how many people he has led astray and continues to. It would be interesting to know how he got led astray to the point that he's at, very sad. He must have searched in all the wrong places to come up with his brand of hogwash and ignored what God's word has to say. Come on Deepak, open a Bible with a true intention to find truth, compare what it says to what you believe and you'll be pleasantly suprised to find that the creator God became Man in Christ Jesus, died for all our and your sins, so you can go to Heaven when your time on earth is up. We are not God/god or anything else that you've selling.


Jayakar Johnson Joseph   September 13th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

God exists in the Universe in that Universe is everything and the causality of creation is in continuum. There is no beginning of origin of Universe.


Vince   September 13th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

why wasn't my comment published ?


CoBrit   September 13th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

There are more and more religious scholars saying that God created everything including the laws of physics and nature, but does, for want of a better phrase, does not get involved with man's day to day happenings. Meaning that he does not change things for us or make things happen – he simply created the rules to allow everything to some how be created and happen. Hawking's new book states that the Universe (or Universes) is governed by a set of laws of physics and nature and that everything can be predicted this way. So it would not be unfeasible to argue that both arguments can come together here. God created the laws which in turn allowed the Universe, galaxies, matter, and even the human race to be created, and that is as far has he got involved. So God could actually refer to these laws and not to some sort of being. That argument would that preclude us from calling God a him (or her). Instead, God is an "it".


Robert L Mott   September 13th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

Dear Larry

Having written instructional books from my career as a SFX artist
(and created the first sound effect for the atom bomb on
CBS's Six O'Clock News),plus written for television, I have a Xmas
idea for your show jnvolving selecting the perfect toy to give your
children. Interested in buying it?

Hate to see you leave!

Sincerely;

Robert L Mott


Larry Hart Jr.   September 13th, 2010 4:44 pm ET

Mr King It very sad in the times we are in when man has become so itelligent that he does not believe in a creator. After 26 years of reading the bible everday the bible shows all the answer to everything anyone would want to know. To begin God tells you who and what he is. I will from this point forward scriptually show you what the creator says about himself and his creations. To begin the book of James 1:17 states that every good and every perfect comes down from the father of lights who does not cause shadow by turning. in the turns of physics our heavenly Father is Isothermal thermal heat and light energy in spirit form. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and make the dark.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 14th, 2010 12:47 am ET

Rick Cohen

It is not difficult to accept that fear prescribed the necessity for the first invention of mankind to allay that which made his life so complicated when he encountered the displays of his mortality. No one can say, without some ridicule, that a contemporary bastardized compilation of centuries old refined literature is the word of a god. I do not, as you were conditioned to, believe that it is somehow God sent or somehow ameliorated in so many proportions of distortions and bindings and believed as such.

There is intended internal fear, mine included, of whether or not mankind would still be in existence had it not been for the first political parties on Earth...religious factions and the fear of the unknown. Our fear of the unknown and in real terms the acceptance that when we die, we die is a carrot at the end of a stick not to be a more savage species than we already are with the man made promise that life is somehow eternal.

Bottom line, as in all transactions throughout life, and as we see it in green today. It is all about the money or some remuneration on Earth and a promise to live forever, that we abide by man made rules and do not destroy ourselves out of existence until that eventually becomes a reality or we simply expire naturally or obliterate through evolutionary extinction or natural disaster...caj


Rick Cohen   September 14th, 2010 9:26 am ET

Cajazz76:24:8 that is a mouth-full of words, but you still did not get to the level of thinking to understand the essence/power of the Word of God. God has been discovered by man, not invented. If a man gets a punch in his face today or a man would have gotten a puch in his face the day Jesus Christ was born, the reaction would be the very same; do A and B will be the result psychologically.

Man's fear is for spiritual pain; fear of being lonely, fear for not receiving love. Man does not really fear dying; people commit suicide or ask God to take them in great suffering.

The "living forever" is not really what humans are searching for. The search is for the utmost in happiness which is "living forever in happiness" . It cannot be imagined by by most, what the last moments of life put you into. You know at that very moment NOTHING can be changed anymore after you last gasp for oxigen. All you have done is done, a consolidation of all your actions during your lifetime.

Did you ever dream something, and it happened afterward? How can scientisis explain that?

Cajazz76:24:8 I have been myself at the horizon of live and learned then that "life" for sure continues after this "life".


Dan   September 14th, 2010 12:26 pm ET

The current Big Bang theory and model "tweeks" to make it work, are all based on an assumption that everything that is currently in the Universe was there at its creation in the time beginning (albeit a soup of energy, unformed particles, and unexpanded space).
But what if that assumption is wrong? What if the Universe is the result of a "Big Fizz" creation in which all things in the Universe are expanding within (being created from something outside of it on a continuing basis)? And the properties of the Universe; time, energy, matter with all of its properties, and space, are apparent properties caused by the expansion? In other words, expansion of a primary substance of the Universe is the cause of everything and not the result of the Big Bang creation.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 14th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

Rick Cohen

To assimilate of 'power the power of God' has already been reproduced in the laboratory. He exists solely in the right temporal lobe of the brain and results of 'current' experiments find it difficult to dispute. You are referring to Deja Vu and it too is right temporal illusion...Energy cannot be created or destroyed, so in that sense our charge-of-out life should, in the sense you see it as life in the here-after, lives on..caj


Cajazz76:24:8   September 14th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Rick Cohen

Excuse the one power above..lol. Man does fear what happens after he dies and found a way to appease it. Not all men agree, but no one has looked at the non-speaking animals of the Earth and considered a hereafter for them. I want my end to be like theirs because I get bored with long stays, anywhere...caj


Rick Cohen   September 15th, 2010 1:27 am ET

Cajazz76:24:8, scientists are not as smart as you try to imply. They are merely trying to understand God's creation. Scientists can play around with brains but never know how exactly it works; just scientific theories. As stated before, scientists can't even explain gravity; they just work with it.

The brain as you might know is versatile, It known that several sections if it can adopt certain functions of other sections when required.

Energy is a term invented by scientists and does not fit in understanding the essence or power of God.

Man may fear what happens after he dies, but that, than, confirms that the human being is constantly in search of happiness. Else why worry?

You stated: "I want my end to be like theirs because I get bored with long stays, anywhere" Well, try to be like mother Theresa of Caluta; you for sure won't be bored to see so many happy faces when you give people a hand. Give and you will receive....


Cajazz76:24:8   September 15th, 2010 10:05 am ET

Rick Cohen..

When you comment that scientists are not as smart as I imply, I can agree whole heartedly, since anyone who seeks knowledge is a scientist and 50% of them must be below average when using the simplest math equation. When you make a living at it, then a title is assigned to you and you are a more narrower definition of the word. As for "playing around with brains" and determining its finite processes, that can go on forever. Who can deny that the brain is now repairable at the skill of surgical tempered hands and is well understood in regards to function?

Of course the brain can cross-train itself, since it is cross-wired through sheathed nerve pathways that, through a regeneration process to link or go around inert channels, can reconnect to the living brain organ function.

In physics, energy, as a consequence of its physical state, is a quantity of ability to perform work in the tiniest of particles to the largest of objects in the forms of kinetic, potential, thermal, gravitational, sound, elastic, electro-magnetic..etc. Energy can disappear in one form, but reappear in another and always in equal quantity. So look at the term energy (energos, Greek origin) as what it is...a noun, thus name, and not an invention of man. It has nothing to do with a god origin or the power we give him/them...There is no energy to illusion, only thought process, and the hell it creates in conjunction with delusion.

You state than, as humans, we are constantly searching for happiness and that must mean beyond the necessities to sustain life. Well, that is sweet and palatable, unless your life is spent purely in a survival mode, then happiness, except for a few seconds of spurts and squirts, is often confined to human reproduction organs in feverish passions. Why is it man doesn't put that in his Heaven? Odd, don't you think, that the greatest natural joy of the human condition and instant prelude to happiness is not assessed that way when man eludes to his eternity, as purported.

Now to your last opinion, as opinions define themselves, in reference to apportions of my contributions to mankind, especially the needy. I defile bragging, as I do bravery or valor or heroes, since we return to the word fear and find there, origin of initiation. But assisting the downtrodden is a large part of why I put value on my personal reasons for existence, much the same way a mayfly or many one-shot creatures exist...to contribute, so the species will adjoin and sustain. One last note on donating...there is not a compassion in my giving that suggests a desire to receive. That would be a disappointment to expect a return on my desire and actions to help others.

The reference to Teresa of Calcutta, now saint, brings questions for you to be specific. Who made her a saint? Do you revere saints as deity? Would you bow down to deity?

We live on a planet we don't near fully understand, that is minuscule in the expanse of a universe, that has no proportional definition, and is far from refined detail of function or origin. As I initially stated on this blog site , it is fascinating to speculate that the universe is more odd and unique than we vision, but it must be more odd and unique than we can envision...Mankind, at an early point in his evolution, invented his mental abacus to assess that which inspires him, but primarily subdues him and in the final analogy will destroy him...Smoke 'em while you got 'em..and I still maintain that I do not expect, nor desire, an eternal existence...not with any God, for certain...

Tell me Mr. Cohen, is it a desire of yours to have an external existence? Before you answer, think it through, as throughly as time permits...caj


Rick Cohen   September 16th, 2010 12:54 am ET

Cajazz76:24:8, scientists know more now compared to "before", but there are so many (simple) things science cannot explain....as I stated it is all about theory...or not? Explain the phenomena of dreaming something that happens afterwards? It all takes place in the brain yes, because it cannot take place in our legs, arms, eyes, etc. Every organ is dedicated to certain functions....or not?

Yes brain surgeries can be performed, but very limited. Though we are happy with what at least can be performed of course.

Energy is an invention of man referring to the fact that man named something present in nature to work with it. It is possible that facts of nature has nothing to do with "energy" but coincides with that concept.

Delusion appears when people don't acknowledge God, for in than case communism and dictatorship results.

Sexual relationship is not needed at all for human beings to be happy. If that would have been the case than all children and all older people would have been living in hell on earth. Maybe it is tough to understand is this porn filled world of today.

Teresa of Calcutta made herself a saint by following the Word of God. Her deeds were outstanding.

Mankind cannot be destroyed by trying to be good through bar ring himself from doing wrong to others.

I am completely sure you are not telling the truth saying that you don't want to be happy.

I try hard to live my life correctly, so that when I gasp for oxygen for the last time, to which point I will get, I can close my eyes with peace in my heart knowing I pleased God, I pleased goodness. I have been at the horizon already.


Cajazz76:24:8   September 16th, 2010 10:26 am ET

Rick Cohen...

I meant to say eternal existence, but external can be interpreted as close enough..'out of body'...no thanks to that either..I want to be like a firecracker, a rather safe fuse length, then after the bang is over...inert.. caj


m43   September 17th, 2010 5:07 am ET

It's obvious that the vast majority of religious people were brainwashed at an early age. That's the only way you can believe something without question. There should be a law against brainwashing defenseless children and young people. Maybe then we would rid ourselves of this festering disease that only breeds ignorance and extremism.


Rick Cohen   September 17th, 2010 8:02 am ET

Cajazz76:24:8 I hope for you that we still have the ability to choose after we are "transported" from the one life type to the other. It seems that there is nothing we can do after this one is consolidated, and we do not know how much time we have to live or to think... What is really inert we do not know....even scientists imply movement of protons/electrons/neutrons, etc. in "dead matter" which are plain theory based on the limited perception of the human being. Even dogs can see or hear things human being can't see or hear, according to the scientists themselves...


Rick Cohen   September 18th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

m43, if you would like to talk about brainwashing, you will need to talk about media in general. Besides...what is right and what is wrong? Who determines that? Your neighbor might think t is perfectly fine to kill you, while according to God’s Word it is wrong to kill. Your neighbor might feel it is perfectly fine to steal your car, while the Word of God is against stealing…. Why do you than complain about believing in God’s Word? God’s Word does not forbid you from doing anything. We are all free to do whatever we want, either we follow God advice or we don’t. The consequence we could know by knowing God’s Word.


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