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August 21, 2010

Tonight on Larry King Live!

Posted: 03:00 PM ET

Dr. Laura & Kathy Griffin!

Dr. Laura’s shocking use of the N-word had her on the defensive last week! Hear what she’s saying about it now – only on Larry King Live.

Plus, same-sex marriage supporter Kathy Griffin reacts to the fight over Prop 8.  The debate continues with newly-out Stephanie Miller, Dennis Prager and Bishop Harry Jackson.

TAKE OUR POLL: Is there a racial double standard?

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Smith in Oregon   August 17th, 2010 8:52 pm ET

Larry King, very few American's realize of the very few issues which would turn both China and Russia against America, one would be the bombing of the Bushehr civilian electrical power nuclear reactor in Iran.

Russia will begin helping Iran load nuclear fuel rods into the civilian Bushehr nuclear reactor this Saturday. If Israel were to bomb the civilian Bushehr reactor after the fuel rods are loaded, that would likely spread radioactive fallout thru-out that region, greatly bringing direct condemnation on Israel thru-out the entire Middle East.

Previously Israel bombed Iraq's civilian nuclear reactor just prior to it's being loaded with fuel rods and operational. Israel also bombed an alleged fuel rod conversion plant in Syria before it was fully operational. Odd's are that Israel will do the same to Iraq, however there is much more at stake with both Russia and China's interest in Iran and North Korea closely following the affairs in Iran.

Iran has leased and purchased some of the worlds most advanced tunneling machines and has used them to build extensive military complexes deep within Iranian mountains making them entirely immune to conventional bunk-busting aerial bombs. Each of those would take Multiple Nuclear bombs to destroy them. Israel could attack them with conventional bunker busting aerial bombs in a crass and callous attempt to draw America into a war against Iran, but that would only anger Iran and do nothing in regards to destroying those targets.

Meanwhile America has massed a large Naval 'war-games' off the shore of Korea. Obviously the overwhelming concern by the US Military is that Israel attacks Iran and North Korea attacks South Korea in response. Many American lives hang in the balance and Iran is following the NPT International treaty entirely. When is Israel held to obeying International Laws?

Russian inspectors and engineers would likely be killed and undoubtedly Russia would respond by placing S-300 advanced anti-aircraft missile battery's across Iran's military complex sites which Iran has allegedly already paid Russia for but have not received delivery of them.

It looks like yet another difficult week for international affairs brought on by Israel's current war drumming government. Under International Law, Iran has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and has International legal rights to obtain and use civilian nuclear reactors for Science, Medical and Electrical Power generation purposes.

When is the world going to hold and force Israel to obey International Laws? If both China and Russia attack America over bombing a civilian reactor site, that apparently would no longer even matter would it?


molly   August 17th, 2010 9:01 pm ET

Hi Larry! Sounds like an exciting show tonight!


san   August 17th, 2010 9:03 pm ET

I am not saying she is a racist, but what else would you say about her, if you were black?


san   August 17th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

No one should say the N word, but if blacks say it, it is meaningless, if whites say it, they know better!


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

America will never unite until it breeds into one race .


Geena   August 17th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

What does Larry mean when he says people who are the N word can use it? Who is Larry referring to as beloning to this group. Giving LKL the benefit of the doubt, it sounded like Larry did not realize what he said.....or was this a slip?


Dodie   August 17th, 2010 9:07 pm ET

Laura Schlessinger and her ‘Rant’ on the radio was obscene at best and an embarrassment of the female gender.

“Schlessinger received a bachelor's degree from Stony Brook University and a Ph.D. in physiology from Columbia University in 1974. Her doctoral thesis was on the "Effects of Insulin on 3-0-Methylglucose Transport in Isolated Rat Adipocytes” –Wikipedia

Laura Schlessinger received her Ph.D. in physiology… now isn’t that the biological study of the functions in living organisms and their parts? The big question here… how is she qualified with giving people advice. Obviously not, after she used the “N” word 13 times. This is not the first time Laura has expressed profound ranting and then gave some sort of apology. She is tantamount of narcissistic behaviors in the raw!!! There is no excuse. She is a perfect example of a person unwilling to take responsibility for their behaviors. Her bold and crass disposition coupled with her outlandish racist ranting is an embarrassment and denotes the Ugly American to the rest of the world. I certainly hope that she will be banned from any radio/TV show or media exposure.

I will add her to the list of ignorant loud mouth women such as Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Sarah Palin. Between pat Buchanan, rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Sarah Palin and Laura Schlessinger…..good grief, what is this country coming to?

All of the aforementioned have voices that causes one to be tone deaf, their ears curl up from shock; not to mention a full assault on our brain. It would be best for Laura to go back to her ‘ratology’ and leave the human condition for others with the credentials.


molly   August 17th, 2010 9:07 pm ET

Was Dr. Laura's decision to quit radio talk related to the "N-word" rant?


Ellen   August 17th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

Why does Dr. Laura think this woman was being "hypersensitive"? She was simply "offended" by the word being used, and most likely the tone it was being used in. It is her right to have her own feelings without being labeled "overly sensitive".


Rae   August 17th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

I can't stand the Dr Laura show and find her to be a narrow minded antagonist person but in this case I have to agree with her. If it is all right for black people to use the n word constantly, they shouldn't get bent out of shape if non blacks use it. I think the word should be banned from use at all but I think she could have made her point to the caller in a much better way than she did.


TC   August 17th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

I'm glad she is going off the air, she is rude, and tactless and does not know how to be compassionate. She should take time to find who she is and not blame the fact that radio holds her back to speak her mind. She did way too much of that and now she is in trouble.


san   August 17th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

Dr. Laura has gotten too old and out of touch for todays culture. She should retire, she is like a throwback from the 50's south. She knows better, but may be too out of touch to realize what she has said.


Chris from Savannah   August 17th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

She really thought she can say that word freely. I'm not going to spell it out, but blacks say a different word than whites. It means something different coming from whites than when blacks say it. I don't want to hear that word at all, but she is ignorant about what it means.


Roger B. Rensvold, PhD   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

Any psychologist knows that the meaning of a word depends upon context; who says it, and when.

The N-word is different in black and white mouths. Why? Because no mob of drunken BLACK men ever chanted it while lynching a black man.


Lisa M.   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

It is ridiculous to ask the majority to give rights to minorities by way of a vote. How long would it have taken for any progress on civil rights if we left it up to individual voters? The majority will always try to block and bully the minorities if left to their own devices.. Let the courts and govt do what is right. If I have to pay taxes then I should get all the rights that come with citizenship, including marriage and parenthood.


Lee   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

I just keep saying give gays the same rights as married couples. My gay friends have been togther longer then the straight friends I know. They have to pay MORE for the same health care @ work that the straight couples do because of how it is taxed sicne they are not married. I don't care what it is called, just give them the same rights. Let the church say yes or no to if they will let them have a ceremony @ their establishment, but the government should recognize the union. IT IS A UNION it is love–the government should have nothing to do with the church part–and that is what people keep saying is what makes it wrong. So take out that part and what do you have...two people who wants the same rights as any other two people in a commited relationship.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

Dr. Laura is being discomunicated because of a law made by a child that is being enforced by children .


D. Junk   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

Dr. Laura still does not get it! She never gave a proper apology. She offended the NAACP. She never addressed the Callers concern.


Dana J   August 17th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

She has no right to group all Black people together This woman is under the false impression that ALL blacks are foul mouthed N word using Obama voting baby mamas. She knows nothing about what its like to walk into a room or interview for a job simply because of the color of her skin. She has a low view of people of color and I'm glad she is leaving radio


Tom   August 17th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

Hi I just wanted to comment on same-sex marriage. I think it should be legal because I, myself am gay, and I think you shouldn't be discriminated against whom you love. People shouldn't have a say on who you can or cannot love.
Thank You.


Sandy   August 17th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

Blaming the First Amendment is an excuse. She has to learn to hold her tongue and be more of a compassionate person. She has always been a very hard talker, and now she stuck her foot in it.


Chris   August 17th, 2010 9:11 pm ET

I think LGBT people should have the same right to marry that straight people have.


Tom   August 17th, 2010 9:11 pm ET

Hi I just wanted to comment on same-sex marriage. I think it should be legal because I, myself am gay, and I think you shouldn't be discriminated against whom you love.
Thank You.


Terry Avery   August 17th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

Dr. Laura is not sorry, the n word is being used less these days. Even with Rappers. And she will use it again. It's people like her that let, me know this is still and will always be a white mans world.


Dee Wood   August 17th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

I'm glad Dr. Laura is done!!! She's obnoxious, she doesn't listen. She didn't HEAR what the caller was saying. All of the stuff she spewed during the call, I believe, where her real feelings, and the issue of race. She does have a right to say what she wants. She mentioned people want to silence rather than have a conversation. However, she does not live by her own words, the caller couldn't even have a conversation with her. She spoke of hypersensitivity, there are just some words that are deeply rooted. You would think she would know that being Jewish. Bye, Bye! She can join the likes of all of her other friends, Rush, Fox, and the rest.


Sandy   August 17th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

She doesn't get it, she does offend everyday, she doesn't see it. I heard her in a friends car, I said to my friend, how do you listen to her, she is so mean and tactless. Well now we know I was right, it was a matter of time. You must use you mind and heart in being a doctor. She does not know that.


Connie   August 17th, 2010 9:13 pm ET

Good riddance to Dr. Laura! She was way out of line with her repeated use of the "n" word, stating that the caller shouldn't have married outside of her race, and her comment "don't you NAACP me". ( If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. . .) Glad she is going off the air. I will never support or purchase any of her work.


Tom   August 17th, 2010 9:13 pm ET

Hello.
I just wanted to say I think same sex marriage should be legal because it shouldn't matter who you love just as long as you find it.


Dr. Laura   August 17th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

Dr. Laura makes complete sense! If the "n" word is bad then it should not be used at all by any group. However, I've heard white guys call each other the "n" word .... it wasn't meant to be offensive. It's used in music, conversation, and everyday I hear blacks calling blakcs the "N" word. I don't hear whites calling each other "cracker" , or any other race greeting themselves with a race word. THere is a double standard!


Kati   August 17th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

As biased as my opinion may be, due to the fact that I am a gay American, I am 100% in agreement that same sex marriage should be legalized. There really should be no argument for this, it's basic human rights. We need to stop wasting tax dollars on court proceedings dealing with this subject, legalize it and worry about more important problems in the United States. This subject should not even be a question in the years 2010, legalize it already and move on.


Cajazz76:24:8   August 17th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

I am so curious/disgusted as to what made you, as a white upper-class radio personality, use a word that has been deemed so hateful, hurtful and derogatory from our not so distant past controversial history of racial biases. Where were you in the 60's? Your retraction and apology ran cold through my blood..


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

Good ole Rob got a retrial now Obama gets to testify I bet they reject a retrial .


tina cottonwood arizona   August 17th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

She just doesnt get it. It was not about the N word. She was RUDE. She did not apologize for being rude and not having empathy toward the caller.


m sherman   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

BRAVO DR LAURA!!!!!
for staying true to your vocation, for recognizing how politics is infiltrating media and choosing to stand for your beliefs, your message.............freedom indeed.........you are a part of the solution, not the problem..........look forward to your insights in the future (uncensored)


maya wright   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

yes


molly   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

I don't think it's o.k. for ANY group (black, white, red, or yellow) to use the "N-word". It's not a nice word – period.


sue bergman   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

It is not about the word Dr. Laura said...it was her insensitivity to the caller. She is the Dr. – She should have answered the caller in a kind and sensitive way like any good Dr. should. She sound angry, and demeaning as well all she wanted to do was make her own point and personal view...how can she say that she is in fear of interest groups who are trying to silence her. Her response to the caller was in effect trying to SILENCE the callers legitimate concern.
By the way I am white.


Neither Left or Right   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

Dr. Laura is not sorry for what she has done. During your King's interview, there was no mention by her of her completely ignoring the caller's problem. Furthermore, her spewing nonsense to the caller about Obama and mixed marriage, etc speaks to her gross ignorance.


Sam   August 17th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

So the Doctor L is taking her ball and running home. So she felt she had to leave because she couldn't speak – because she couldn't say the "n" word – is this what she wants to be "free" to say more of?
By the way when did freedom of speech include the right to have your own national radio talk show?


Smith in Oregon   August 17th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

Does WW3 begin this weekend?

Shouldn't that be a topic of discussion with Israel, Iran, North Korea ready to go hot before the nuclear fuel rods are loaded this weekend into a civilian nuclear power reactor in Iran?

America's massive 7th. fleet off the shore of Korea under the guise of 'war games' appears to signal it entirely expects North Korea to go into a hot war zone if Israel attacks Iran.

Russia and China turning against America and no discussion on what would certainly effect every American man, woman and child?


Gene Patrick   August 17th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

Here is a plain explanation for Dr. Laura as to why it is NOT ok for her to use the N-Word.

That word was not invented by Black people. I was invented by and used to humiliate and subjugate Africans brought to this country against their will.

Black people use the word as both an insult and a badge of courage. Is it right for Black people to use it so freely? Yes and no. For better or worse, it has become a part of Black culture, an in-your-face comment to those who might want to step over that line...a sort of warning at times.

So the bottom line is this. It is NOT ok for you, or any other white person in this country to use the 'N-Word" in any way, shape, context or form. The history of this country in regards to race relations necessitates that restriction. Period. End of story.


Name*Lisa barrington   August 17th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

Yes!


Margie   August 17th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

I don't accept Dr. Laura's apology because I see it as not genuine, I don't hate Dr. Laura I've listened to her for more than 20 years and will continue because on the matters of family, marriage, relationships and children something that she should stick to commenting on she is on mark. I knew how the call would go she's done it before. There were a couple of other statements that I heard no apology for that is why I don't accept her apology. I'm not hypersensitive but take offense to anyone stating that I am, I have lived the history, As I continue to educate myself on the history and horrors that have been done to several races I can never learn enough. She also should take the time and learn more before commenting on anything that is not her expertise but her opinion.


Laurence   August 17th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

I am an albino black male, do I have the right to use the “N” word? According to you, no. The idea of using the “N” word explicitly by African Americans should be quite obvious to someone with a PHD. Why would an African American feel discriminated when its coming out of the mouth of another African American.

L.C.


Steve M   August 17th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

Definitely agree, Same sex marriage should be legal. Who you love does not have anything to do with what bigots think.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

There going to have more proof and Obama and his staff will have to testify to satisfy the case and I think they will quash the retrial .


CC Schreiber   August 17th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

Right on Larry and that was going to be my comment about persons kidding around with their own ethnic or religious group, but not the say Dr.Laura said IT...

At the end of your interview when she said that she realized her mistake. very shortly...why didn't you ask her like she would do with a guest on her program......You knew it wasn't right to say that......but you could not help yourself....

Also her answer to the woman caller did not relate to the topic at hand at all....Dr. Laura was dying to say the N word over and over again and she got her chance....


Str8tlk   August 17th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

Partner Marriage OK
Regular Marriage NO..............Give them all the rights and their own marriage and their own license, this way man and woman marriage will stay the same and they will have their marriage.


jacob   August 17th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

i think same sex marriage should be legal because it really shouldn't matter who your marry, its your life, your choice! everyone should have the right to choose to marry who they please!


Betty Allenfort   August 17th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

After hearing about the Dr. Laura issue and so many others recently, I just believe this country is getting so hyper sensitive. I think it's time for everyone to take a step back, and listeten to a great Eagle's song "Get Over It".!!!!!!


tina cottonwood arizona   August 17th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

@Roger B. Rensvold, PhD
Thank You very much.


molly   August 17th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

Dr. Laura's words in her apology were good. Her tone did not appear sincere. The fact that she's leaving because she feels her "1st amendment rights are being usurped" is very telling. She's disingenuous.


Philip Reid   August 17th, 2010 9:20 pm ET

Bravo to Dr. Laura

I am a black male that works as a youth counselor for the Department of Juvenile Justice and I recently addressed the male students about using the n word amongst themselves. I explained to them that respect from others starts with self-respect. Once again, I am a black male and I do not think that Dr. Laura said anything wrong. Black people need to remove the word from their brain and vocabulary.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:20 pm ET

Obama could become the first black president to be impeached and make history even again in a very short time .


Colin Brewer   August 17th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

I don't even think same sex marriage should be a debate? What? The only reason it is a debate is because of stupid religion and homophobes that unfortunately have a say in our lives!


Trysh   August 17th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

Who doesn't agree that Dr. Laura Schelessinger should call it quits?! 


Jhood   August 17th, 2010 9:22 pm ET

I disagree with same sex marriage . God created Adam and Eve.
If he had created all males and no females these people would't
be here today. He created a male and female to be fruitful and
multiple. How can anything multiple with the same sex naturally
without sex change or adoption. get real people and keep that kind
of sickness to yourself. IT'S VERY SINFUL AND SEND A BAD
MESSAGE TO OUR CHILDREN.


Eddie   August 17th, 2010 9:23 pm ET

What if Dr. Laura's Husband silently stood by while his guy friends used the "B" word or the "C" word in her presence; and when she complains – his response is - women comics on HBO use those words all the time and women laugh.


Sue   August 17th, 2010 9:23 pm ET

Yes same sex marriage should be legal. We've had same sex marriage in Canada since July 2005 and life goes on as usual. No 'Lord of the Flies' scenario has happened.

Interracial marriage was not legal until the late 60's in the US (I think...). To think people couldn't marry someone they love because of their race seems so unthinkable today. 40 years from now it will be unthinkable that same sex marriages were not always allowed.

A caller into the Stephanie Miller show had a good idea. He said all marriages – straight and gay – should be called civil unions. It's the word marriage that seems to get people all freaked out.


Julie   August 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

The MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE,, WAKE UP AMERICA!!! Words can't hurt unless you let them!!!!!!!!


OLGA   August 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

THINK LAURA IS 1/2 ITALIAN..SHE HAD A DIFFICULT CHILDHOOD..SHE & HER MOM DID NOT GET ALONG...IS SHE 1/2 JEWISH TOO? HEARD HER SPEAK OF THESE ISSUES ONCE..


Cajazz76:24:8   August 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Philip Reid

You certainly are the epitome of DOJ endeavors to rehabilitate young offender's to make themselves outstanding idiots..


Marie   August 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Same-sex marriage is legal across Canada. I'm very proud that anyone, straight or gay, can marry in my country. It's not so bad, America!


johno   August 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Dear Larry,

I am sorry that Dr. Laura has decided to step down from her radio talk show but she would have understood what she had done if she had invested in relationships with African Americans, and I do hope she does not say the old hackneyed phrase," that some of her best friends are black"

The fact is that as a person of African descent making such a reference to another person of African descent is a word of declaration with very deep subtlety. It is a reminder to each other that we are the descendants of those who have bourne the scar of this epithat. It is not about being overly sensitive, it is about not forgetting who we are and whom we are supposed to be, not by white people who do not means us well, but by ourselves first and foremost and by others who wish us well second. So where as I could refer to you as a jew and you would say I am being anti semetic, You should consider that what you have done is what those who have hated your kind, and who in recent past history had set about to destroy your race, that you should now be so insensitive, that you can now feel so beyond reproach, that you have forgotten that the same knife that killed the lamb will slaughter the sheep.

Good luck in your new endeavors.


tina cottonwood arizona   August 17th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

THANK YOU KATHY GRIFFIN
Vote yes on proposition 9
lots of love


R. Ellison   August 17th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

It is very clear in the first chapter of Romans Gods additude toward sex between two people of the same sex. It is immoral and should never be allowed in this nation founded on Biblical principles. The majority of citizens do not want it. Nor do they want their children exposed to such perversion.


Becky Bryan   August 17th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Dear Larry,
There was an assumption made by you during your interview with Dr. Laura and that is that it's ok for blacks to use the n word when referring to blacks and it's ok for hispanics to use derogatory terms when referring to other hispanics etc. Wow! As a woman it ain't ok for another woman to use the b-word when referring to me. Using derogatory terms in reference to population types is ALWAYS meant to demean that population type.
Thanks,
Becky Bryan


CHM   August 17th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

If everyone, including all African Americans, stopped using the "n" word, there would be no discussion on this subject tonight. It's amazing how much time people spend discussing something like this when the solution is a one liner.

Dr. Laura is quite qualified. One can have a degree in anything or nothing and be quite able to give advice to someone else. Like many issues, it has little to do with degrees. Having said that, she has impressive credentials.

I am in independent, thankfully. I would not want to be delusional and feel that no liberal woman is an arrogant loud mouth, via television, radio, or keyboard.


Neither Left or Right   August 17th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

If two people are in love and they want to marry, who cares. The notion of same-sex marriage is harming the "sanctity" of marriage is rubbish! The divorce rate of heterosexuals in this country is through the roof! Is it because gays want to get married?? Get real!


Terrie   August 17th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Marriage should be defined as a union between a man and a woman. It is the foundation of society and ordained by God for the purpose of procreation. No same sex "marriage"...If Gays want to have a commitment ceremony or civil union...fine whatever, but it shouldn't be allowed to be called marriage.


Big Pryor   August 17th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Larry I think Dr Laura is a bit confused. At one point she speaks of apologizing for saying a harmful word but in another breath she says her first amendment right is being violated. Well which is it? Does she want to continue to say the N-word as she please and expect no repurcussion? How can she be surprised at the fact that there are groups who would be after her and her show(sponsors) for such a thing. Does she not realize the platform(media) she is on has an accountability system for those who violate that trust? Shame on her for thinking she can continue to say the N-word and nothing happen!


Dr. Ali r   August 17th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Dr.Laura should leave radio she saw the opportunity to get off her chest wanted she had been wanting to do all along. Which was air her taninted views and ignorant racist rant to infect the general population. Kudos to one less ignorant person on the air:)


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Procreation is the normal something is wrong in these peoples blue jeans .


Lauren D   August 17th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

If marriage is about procreation, then why are heterosexual couples allowed to marry who are infertile or choose not to have children?


Salvador   August 17th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

I'm Salvador an intelligent 20 some year old who serves in the military and loves my family and being gay is a part of me just like me being Hispanic but it does not make me who I am. I continue to serve cause it's the right thing even though I don't agree with some of the rules placed. I believe some people can't do the right thing cause their hate is blinding them from moving forward.


LeevmLaffin   August 17th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, 347 U.S. 483 (1954)
("no State shall... deny to any person... the equal protection of the laws.")
Separate is not equal.
This is a civil rights issue.
Agree or disagree with same-sex anything, we live in the U.S. where equality under the law represents the essence of 'pursuit of happiness' and individual liberty.


James Day   August 17th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

gay marriage has been legal in Canada for several years now. It did nothing bad and legitimized 1000's of same sex couples in the eyes of the government.
Plain and simple. Our constitution..like yours....said all r created equal and must be treated so. same sex marriage WILL be legal in the USA because the constitution says ALL r equal.
I know the USA is a homophobic, racist, and bigoted country but in the end the proper thing will be done.
If you are against marriage for all...sont marry a same sex partner.


ro   August 17th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

O.K. Just let me get this straight...if you are leaving soon and Dr. Laura is leaving soon, who will we have to ask the tough questions and make the tough comments? When is political correctness going to be dissed in favor of free speech? We have lost our freedom to move around in public (as in airports, etc.) and now we are losing our right to free speech. Anyone can post anything they want online about someone, true or not, and it's nearly impossible to get it corrected, let alone bring libel or slander against them. But Dr. Laura is not allowed to quote black comedians on her show to make a point? She was QUOTING, folks, they weren't her words but someone else's that you apparently did not see the quotation marks around. This is a travesty.


Jack   August 17th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

I appreciate what Ms. Griffin is trying to say when she compares interracial marriage to homosexual marriage, but the truth is they are apples and oranges. Interracial marriage, while an important step forward, did not FUNDAMENTALLY change the definition of marriage, as homosexual marriage does.

Part of the problem is that we have, in marriage, a unique institution that is at the same time sacred and secular. On a secular front I agree gay couples should have every right that heterosexual couples have, but I also understand religious groups' desire to not redefine their sacred understanding of marriage. How would Ms. Griffin address this tension?


Brandon   August 17th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Gay marriage should not be legal because it could open the doors to marriage between minors or even something that I wouldn't put too far out there...animals. Some people love their animals enough and treat their animals like people that I wouldn't be surprised. Did you ever think we'd be having this discussion on gay marriage 20 years ago today?


Louise   August 17th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Larry, really
Laura mentioned that she policed herself how many times. I know why Laura policed herself because she knew what she said was so wrong from the begining, and that she tried to cover her own a**.
No excuse for her as a person. Period.


Sue   August 17th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

One more thing.... If the argument is that marriage is to be between a man and women for the purposes of procreation then... If a straight couple does not wish to have children then, according to that argument, they shouldn't be allowed to get married.


Michael   August 17th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Does Dr. Laura's decision to end the show have anything to do with this incident?


Henry   August 17th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

Regarding Dr. Laura... I am considered African American and I am in agreement with her. Until black people stop calling each other the "N" word and claiming it is a term of enderment... NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!....They have NO business getting mad at others who use the word.
Also, words only have power when you bye into the intended meaning. The "N" word means nothing to me and has no emotional or physical effect on me. When people both black and white have used that word toward me it only made me laugh at the ignorance that spoke the word.
People always go to the lowest common denominator when they get made and frustrated. What a waste of energy!


Cajazz76:24:8   August 17th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

Is Narcissistic an 'N' word that is apropos for a Pinko-Grey figure in a pant-suit?


Raymond Coats   August 17th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

The issue is the elephant in the room! No one wants to look at, nor admit, that this man, man, woman, woman issue is against nature! The homosexual agenda wants to ignore simple moral rules so that they can be happy doing whatever they want to do. This is why it is always thrown up "it's a civil rights issue". It is NOT a civil rights issue. When I, as a black man, walk down the streeet, I don't have to do anything for the discrimination to take place. The homosexual MUST do something overt so that others are given knowledge of their sexual desires. Totally unlike African-Americans. The white man did not want/does not want the black man to marry the white woman. This is totally unlike two men co-joining for "loves" sake. Two men cannot be stopped from loving one another! No one can dictate another's emotional direction. The people have spoken!


H.K. Burrwell   August 17th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

Same sex marriage...think about it, it doesn't even sound right.It's a feeble, pitiful attempt by a group of freaks to try to achieve some level of normalcy. It will not work, you will still be a freak of nature.Give them a civil union and if they that won't do then go you know where. You will not soil this like you have soiled nature. And to equate this issue with the civil rights movement is the most demeaning analogy they could have come up with. It's a frontal assualt on this most sacred sacrement. What the Lord has brought together let no man or shim put asunder.Go back to the closet and stay there. We don't need your coming out and all that, we know who you are we just choose to ignore you.


Scott Stodden   August 17th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

I Was Deeply Appalled And Shocked By The Words And Racial Slurs That Came Out Of Dr Laura's Mouth, For Her To The N Word That Many Times On Live Radio Is Disgusting And She Should Lose Her Job And Go To Counseling, Clearly We Can See That Dr Laura Is Nothing But A Racist! Also, Larry Iam A 34 Year Old Gay Man And I Have And Always Will Believe In Same Sex Marriage And It Should Become Legal In All 50 States, Who Is The Goverment To Tell Americans Who They Can And Can't Love! Its My Dream To Marry My Partner OneDay In This Country, Make Gay Marriage Legal In 2010!

Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)


marcus   August 17th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

what is wrong with gay marriage? how does this affect "straight" marriages? the christians keep saying it's against god's word. god also says 'tho shall not judge'. so if the gays are going to hell, they will be there with alot of so called christians.
god is the only judge


Blain   August 17th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

Dr Laura Rocks !!!


Christi   August 17th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

This issue is the civil rights movement of this generation and I would like simply to say that generation after generation cannot deny citizens of the United States their rights just because they are uncomfortable and that's the way things have always been.

Homosexual people are citizens of this country and the Constitution, especially the 14th amendment does apply to them. It does not make legal sense that two citizens who are male and female can get married but not two male or two female citizens.

Just because some people are uncomfortable with the idea of two men or two women being together for life and in the bedroom, does not mean the heterosexual community should have the authority to take away their justified legal right to marry.


David   August 17th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

Gay marriage has to be equal. All these people talking about religion and spiritual beliefs to defend their argument. Sorry people know you constitution especially the First amendment and 14th Amd. Government can not honor your religious rights. Government has to give all people equal rights!


paul   August 17th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

Dr Laura claims that she polices herself but policing requires control and she was out of control. Finally, Someone needs to remind her that controversy is not racism.


Linda Stay - Moms For Equality   August 17th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Full equality will come when we normalize “gay” - normalize gay families, gay marriages, and gay children. Parents who refuse to embrace this part of their child, or choose to ignore it, miss a beautiful world of amazing people full of goodness and love. I know it is not easy. As I have stepped into the rainbow light these past two years, many have rejected me - including family members, business associates, and friends. However, the many new people that have come into my life and encircled me with their love have filled that gap one hundred fold!

The journey for full equality took an exciting step forward with Judge Walker’s ruling to overturn Proposition 8. I believe he arrived at many of his conclusions by witnessing the personal and real life nature of the damage done to families by society’s refusal to afford equal treatment to our gay and lesbian children.

Therefore, I take this opportunity to put out this plea: parents, join this march for equality. I ask you to put a human face on this movement. Share who your children are with your friends, your co-workers, your siblings, with everyone. When you hear derogatory comments about gay or lesbian people, or the rampant propaganda and misinformation that are out there regarding them, all you need to say is, “I have a gay son or a lesbian daughter. If you knew them, you would love them.” It is that simple.
Linda Stay –


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Shes right its not the Jimmy Carter years its worst its the Obama years .


Brandon   August 17th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Honestly, if the founding fathers would have known about the possibility of gay marriage, they most likely would have established marriage between a man and a woman


Kathy vriezelaar   August 17th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Who are we to tell people that just because their gay that they cannot be married!!!! They have EVERY RIGHT to the civil union as any american in this country!!!!!!!!


john doe   August 17th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

LARRY, KATHY, OBAMA DOESN'T CARE GIRL, BUT "WE THE PEOPLE" WE CARE!!!


Debbie James   August 17th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Oh please Kathy Griffin give me a break, you are comparing apples to oranges. Gay marriage is not the same as interracial marriage and you very well know it. I think the people of California voted for Prop 8 and I think that is the way it should be. Larry I would like to see someone come on your show and talk about why they are for Prop 8 and have free speech about it as much as Kathy G. has. She thinks her opinion is the only one that matters. I have news she is wrong about this one.


Scott Stodden   August 17th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Racism Is In Full Effect In The United States Of America And The Rant That Dr Laura Went On By Using The N Word Over And Over Again Was Wrong! I Don't Feel Anybody Should Use The N Word Weather Your White, Black, Latino, Chinese Or Whatever You Are! The N Word Is A Hateful Word That Was Used To Refer To Black Slaves During Slavery Days, Why Would Anyone Want To Be Referred To As A Slave?

Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)


thelma slone   August 17th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

I do not beleive in gays (NO MARRIAGE, ABSOLUTELY NO KIDS) (NO MIX MARRIAGE, ABSOLUTLEY NO KIDS). do we have to ask why so many kids are so angry and mixed up today? man/ woman......white/white....black/black....mexican/mexican and etc.


Jason from Canada   August 17th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Hello Larry,

I just wanted to say, when same-sex Marriage became legal in Canada in 2005 I remember feeling so proud to be Canadian. More importantly I remember the sense of equality that I truly felt. I walked down the street feeling that no matter what you thought of me being gay, we were all equal citizens.

I was married in Ontario, Canada last July to my (much better half) Dan. We are very happy and wish this were possible everywhere in every state for our friends to the south.

Thank you,

Jason


Trysh   August 17th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Larry, when you say to Dr. Laura, "but it's not okay when the non-N-person" uses it, are you implying that all black people, including black comics, some of CNN's employees, and even the President, are "N-persons"?! Not all black people like to be called, or considered, "N-persons" as you say! Is that your best shot at being p-c with Dr. Laura. And I agree with Kathy Griffith when she asked "who are the special interest groups?" Those who think using the N-word publicly is wrong or just all Black people?


Susie Gouveia   August 17th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I'm from Ontario, Canada and over here in Canada we believe that its more important that you love than who you love. We also believe in total equality which is why same sex marriage has been legal here since the early 2000's. Everyone has the right to love who they choose!


Steve   August 17th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Kathy G. Says they need to know they have a voice and a vote the gay community.
Well Ms Griffin, what about the people who voted and it down and it won, their voice and vote didn't count or get heard. A tad of a hypocrite now isn't it what you said. We have to figure out away that people vote and it does not get amended or over turned. Why vote then if it can be thrown out, then how do you expect the gay community to have their voice and vote not have it turned over also? You see there is two sides to every story, people for no we don't want it, gays fight it, over turned, religious groups etc. fight it, over turned again. This is just a tennis match with no winners. Balls in the other court now.


terry   August 17th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

I believe gay marriage is wrong simply because the bible says so. I trust that America will keep going down hill as long as it keeps straying away from God. I think that our leaders should stand up for what this country is based on. I also believe that the show could do a lot better than kathy griffin. Larry King is a very smart man and I respect him and realize what he has to do when booking guest. I wish he would invite my Bible preaching,God fearing, southern baptist preacher to be on his show.


David Garrett   August 17th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

if everyone was to marry or date the same sex, the world of people would end in approximately 100 years. besides, how can kathy griffin say "same sex marriages is the same as inter-racial marriage" the last time i checked a black women can mate with a white man and have a child. a man and a man or a woman and a woman regardless of color they can make a baby? i don't think so......


Steve   August 17th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Partner Marriage OK, Changing the Marrigae now No.


Salvador   August 17th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

What ever happened to separation from church and state?


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Its not normal Larry if you can find something normal about it then please tell us all its a sickness .


Deborah Daniels   August 17th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Kathy G. is so wrong. There is no comparison to black and white marriage vs homosexual marriage. Homosexual people can hide their lifestyle and what they do in the bedroom is their business. On the other hand, blacks cannot hide who they are, nor do they want to. There is just no comparison of the struggle blacks had to go through, and to some degree are still going through. Don't you dare compare to two!!!


Giovanni   August 17th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

I think Stephanie Miller is HOT. She's a very good looking woman and god bless her for being brave, honest and having come out as she did a few days ago. Regardless of her sexual orientation, she's HOT.


SLP   August 17th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

David Garrett Well Said, a Very Good Post, It does make a major difference and your post Bravo! That is why the plumbing is different, there is a reason believe it or not. Your post states that, how can life go on if same sex all married same sex. There is so much more to it.


Diane Dagenais Turbide   August 17th, 2010 9:42 pm ET

People are equal when we do not judge the people for their differences!


Jeanine   August 17th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Dr. Laura was way off base and out of line.
Clearly she is upset with Obama and wanted to rant to the first African American who came along. The caller isn't responsible for any issues Laura has with OBAMA nor is she responsible for continuous racist comments of her husband's family and friends.

Laura, Whites vote for people who look like them and no one raises that as an issue. Why is it when some African Americans vote for an African American, it could only be about the candidates Skin Color?

Why do people of color have to put up with continuous ignorant comments and why do other's feel we have to just roll with it?
How dare she say if we are that sensitive we shouldn't marry outside of their race. That's "Jim Crow" thinking Laura.

All of us don't use the N Word.. We don't all think the same, talk the same and even vote for the same candidates.. And.. we all don't come from the same place, eat the same food or even practice the same religion.
I thought Laura was smart enough to know that. Clearly, I was mistaken.

She has freedom of speech but as she has said many a day, there are consequences for that.
Don't blame "groups" for what you said. You are responsible for what you said as am I...


Salvador   August 17th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Larry King lived in the era to know about interracial being unlawful. Why is Dennis arguing with Larry?


SLP   August 17th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Black people marrying white people is soooooooooooooooooo not the samething as gay marriage, not even close.


Beth OCallaghan   August 17th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Larry – The guest you have on your show, Rev. Jackson, is not a pastor in Washington, DC. He has been denied the opportunity to appeal the decision of the DC City Council regarding gay marriage because he does not reside in the District of Columbia. I'm surprised that he is a guest on your show representing DC.


Vernon   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Hi Larry why are people such as Kathy Griffeth allowed to declare what is a Civil Right and what is not a Civil Right. I am an African American Male. I listen in horror as I hear people classify my genetic race with a behavior that has not been proven genetically. I have genes that dictate that I am black. I can not change that. To date I do not know of a gay gene. We constantly debate that we should be able to love whoever we want to and nobody should tell us differently. My answer to that is that we already do.....You can't marry your sister and a 20 y/o male cannot marry a 15 y/o whether or not they love each other. In fact we have names for those people and nobody has a problem with it.
If we are to treat all as equal then why do we discriminate against the pediphile? Larry sometimes your show is so lop-sided and I have never heard these questions that I just posted addressed. There is a difference between behavior and genetics. We base our truth in science upon reproduceability. homosexuality is not reproduceable. Two black people can get together and they will reproduce a black child genetically. If they do not then it is what we call an anomally.


JC from NE   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Regarding Marriage Equality: Marriage equality should absolutely be legal! You cannot pick and choose which relationships, among consenting adults, are recognized.

A religious context should not cloud the judgment of Americans or our elected officials. Religious insitutions should be allowed to honor or perform those relationships at their own discretion, but should not be allowed to impose their view on the course of civil rights in this country.

The argument over the "redefinition" of the word "marriage" in marriage equality is a smoke-screen used by oppoonents to quivel over semantics, and shield themselves from criticism. It is unacceptable to say that separate can be equal. It is not, and for this reason, among so many others, there can be no reason to deny consenting adults the right to wed because of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity.


Ro   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I think I am "for" gay marriage; but, am concerned that this opens up the question for legalizing polygamy?!?!?!


Marie M.   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

With regard to same-sex marraige, there is a legal element as
well as a spiritual element. The legal aspect , refering to civil unions are best left to the courts to decide. As far as the spiritual dimension of marriage, the law has no place since this is more of a religious issue and in this country we have a separation of church and state..
Marriage can not be looked upon solely as a civil issue separate from its spiritual dimension.


Terrie   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I support a constitutional amendment to define marriage between a man and a woman in the United States. It's not about civil rights.
It's about the definition of Marriage!!!! And keeping it sacred.


Tami   August 17th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I have been with my partner for almost 33 years. We go to Church on Sundays, and are both in classes called Theology Among The People
(TAP) at our Church. I feel that God is the only one who has a right to judge us and I know, without a doubt, that He is in our lives everyday. What I fail to accept are those who are wanting to play God and take away my human rights, we pray for them. We were both in the military and served our country proudly and we fought for your freedoms. we believe we should be able to legally be married and have the same benefits as everyone else. I have no living family members, not allowing my partner those benefits means I die alone, in a hospital, and leaves her with nothing....On the other subject, NO, the N word should never be used by anyone. And by the way, I marched for African American's rights back in the 60's. Who is going to march for my rights, who is going to hold out that same hand to my partner when I pass away and she will be standing alone, who will give her that same respect and fight the fight. Human Rights – Love of Human Kind – should always come first.


roderick m. f. petty   August 17th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

what is the value of same-sex marriage? the only value i see is that it is skewed intercourse. i don't believe children should be raised by same-sex parents, i believe it is damageing to their developement. if same-sex marriage were ment to be then their would be no arguement over it. there is no question about opposite-sex marriage.


Anne   August 17th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Regarding Same Sex Marriage... Marriage is a union between and man and a woman, not a man and a man or a woman and a woman. God made man and woman so that they could procreate. That is a fact! Some people just don't and will never understand or accept this. I blame the liberals in this country for so many of our problems, including trying to change the meaning of the word "Marriage".


warren caulton   August 17th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Larry, the issue is first – what is marriage. It is the molecular represenation of humanity. When two men can marry they are denying the essential role of woman in society, and if two woman can marry they are denying the essential role of men. When NASA sent out the Voyager Spacecraft they included a picture of a man and woman. Why? because all of humanity is represented by the union of a man and a woman. It is the only stable and defensible definition. Any other definition denies the evidence presented in nature.

The the ratification of the 19th Amendment, the 24 year old state senator voted for the 19th Amendment based on his mother's instruction. What happens when societal governing bodies are composed of people with no reference to the other gender?

Marriage is one man, one woman – anything else is not marriage.
When the doors close on a household it is essential that ALL of humanity be represented.


Cathy   August 17th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Dennis,
I appreciate your honesty and how you are trying to keep focused on your point, and yet it seems very technical to me. My point is this...
when you see how a gay couple loves each other, and wants to be committed, how can you possibly get technical? I love my husband, I love the commitment, and I want my gay friends to have the same right. It seems quite unjust to deprive certain people, based on their gender, of this right.


KelsoV   August 17th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

If marriage is for pro-creation, what if couples don't have children?

Religious groups can decide to not marry gays, that is their right, but the state SHOULD recognize the union. Anyone not believing this is on the wrong side of history.


Brandon   August 17th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

The only reason marriage has anything to do with the government is due to financial and property rights and taxes. If you took high school economics with history and paid attention in class you would know this.


AnitaLynn   August 17th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

I do not see gay marriages as a civil rights issue. However, if gays are allowed to marry, I sincerely hope California denies such, all those who want to marry should be able to marry such as: siblings marrying, parents and children, adults and children, animals and man. When you open the sanctify of marriage to gays - you open the doors to any and everything each group claiming their civil right to do so.


brenda wright   August 17th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Bishop Jackson, said we have different bathrooms for different sexs, Wrong! We have many places with Uni-sex bathrooms and many with Family bathrooms! Where has he been!


joana   August 17th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Marriage is in my opinion not related to the ability of making children. Nor to the Bible in the case of Law. If it would be so then let's check out how many couples are married without being religious nor having children. It is weird to follow this discussion, what is exactly the problem with same sex marriage?
Separation by Race is evil but separation by sex is not?


Bourke   August 17th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

A marriage license is just that. It is a license issued by a state that gives you rights in court. The fact that two people enter into that license is between those individuals. The license gives you access to the court system; death, divorce, ect. The fact that we limit it to only heterosexual couples is unconstitutional. Access to the judicial system is for all. I should be able to by a license, $45.00, like any heterosexual couple and not be forced to spend thousands to draw up legal papers with a lawyer.


Steve Stay - Dads For Equality   August 17th, 2010 9:50 pm ET

Is it wrong for a Dad to want all of his children to have equal opportunities for joy and happiness? An equally insane question is: Should consenting adults be denied the right to marry on the basis of their sexual orientation? My reasoning goes much deeper than that of a Dad sticking up for his gay children.

First, allowing same-sex marriage would strengthen the image and sanctity of marriage. At a time when divorce rates and unwed heterosexual cohabitation are at their highest, allowing and encouraging partners to make this commitment would promote a strong family unit. It would also create a stronger social society in which committed relationships no longer need be hidden. Furthermore, children would be more secure in the strengthened home environment.

Secondly, it is inhumane to withdraw basic dignity to loving partners at a time of need. Such is the case when same-sex couples find their partner in the hospital. In a large majority of states, without the legal status of marriage, the family of the one hospitalized has total control over medical decisions and who can be with the patient. Also denied are tax and health insurance benefits while living and rights of survivor-ship benefits if one passes away. These, along with many others, add up to over 1,000 benefits and rights that are lost through denying the right to marry.

Lastly, our nation was founded on the basic principle of equal rights. For example, “… all men are created equal…with certain unalienable rights…life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” is found in our Declaration of Independence. Current laws are clear that equality under the law extends to persons of all races, religions, and place of origin. Sadly, the United States of America has a tainted heritage of racial and gender abuses. Applying the same rights and protections to men and women regardless of their sexual identity would honorably complete our promise of equality.


brenda wright   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Our children will not be nearly as effected by being raised by same sex parents, as by dysfunctional different sex parents, which happens all of the time.


Karen Robinson, CPA   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Let's remove marriage from the government's purview entirely.
Why are personal relationships considered legal issues? Isn't marriage primarily a religious ritual? Let people be married in their faiths and if their religion doesn't permit gay marriage then gays don't marry in that religion. SEPARATE the church from the government and allow all people as individuals to be treated equally – regardless of race, sexual preference, blah blah blah.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Nature has its own way of getting rid of natures flaws .


JOE   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Comparing race and sexual orentation is an insult ot every black person gay or straight in Amercia now and in the past.I am a black man, i breath i love I create children with my wife How dare a gay person compare themselves to me.You could be gay and conceal it if you chiose as a black man I cannot,my ancestors were slaves not because they were gay or straight but because of the color of thier skin. If you wish to redifine America than get off my back and stop comparing yourselfs to me and my people


Jan   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Marriage is a religious ceremony and comes from the bible. The bible is clear on homosexuality. That being said, I think that marriage should only occur in church. The government should not be involved in the sanctity of marriage. The state should offer civil unions with the same rights as marriage.


bette   August 17th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Regarding same sex marriage:

very simple. If you believe in gay marriage and homosexuality, you do NOT believe in God. It clearly states more than once in the Holy Bible that a man cannot lie with a man – and a woman cannot lie with a woman. End of Story. I would hate to be gay and have to meet God on Judgement Day....


Julie   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Dear Larry,
It is not just about gay rights in america. Also BINATIONAL COUPLES that lives in DIFFERENT COUNTRIES because they can't "SPONSOR" THEY PARTNER. PLEASE, SOMEBODY HELP BINATIONAL COUPLES!!!!!! --TWO PEOPLE OF TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES--
In our case I am from Argentina, where just GAY MARRIAGE HAS BEEN APROVED, and my lovely fiance from Alabama.

I am a professional, worked several yers in work visas, payed my taxes, always has been legally in the USA, speak 4 languages, has earned awards with my company in the US.
WHY WE DON'T HAVE RIGHTS???????????????????????

Thank you!
Julie


Raghuveer   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Hi larry,

It is very unfortunate that even we have to discuss about the same sex marriage, all the people who are here for same marriage are sick in their mind. by allowing same sex marriages what LEGACY are you going to leave for the generations to come........ if this continues the future generations will be confused, they won't even what is gender(male or female)

Some people on the show are arguing that it is constitutional right, are they out of their mind.... get that lady out of the show,,.. she is out of her mind.... it is not a constitutional right........

If people do fall in with same sex people and want to show some commitment... they can be friends, friendship on this earth is so sacred and great.. they can be friends


Melissa   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

To me, marriage is a sacred union, and this union is based in my religious beliefs. Why is it correct to deny another basic right that is defined in our constitution: religious freedom? Marriage is NOT defined in the constitution; religious freedom is. It's at the very heart of why so many people even came to this continent. Give all people their secular rights but don't give them the right to take away something that is sacred in nature. It defies the constitution; in doing so, you miss church and state and that is an intermingling that is strictly opposed by our founding legal documents.


Darren   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Why do we keep talking to religious leaders about gay marriage. This is not a religious issue, this is a constitutional issue. They don't believe in gay marriage and I don't believe in the bible or organized religion. That is both our right under the constitution. But I don't have the right to stop their belief system, so why should they have the right to stop mine.


Bill   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Exactly where in the U.S. Constitution does it say all people are created equal? I believe your guests are mistaken. It is the Declaration of Independence that says, "All men a created equal."


Yana   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Let's be real here, the gay marriage thing is more so a thing of religion. Religion and politics have always been way too tied together. Catholics will argue that Adam and Eve were created, not Adam and Adam, or Eve and Eve. Yet it's a law... The definition of marriage is what also makes his so complicated "the formal union of a man and woman". Someone needs to update this definition because it is not fair to gays. They are still people just like straights, nothing makes them different. With this being a decision by the court there shouldn't be allowed controversy. If it was the church deciding then the controversy would be more acceptable.
Let's the gays have as many equal rights as the straights! And yes, you CAN compare this to everything that has changed in the past! Slavery was out ruled, women can now vote, interracial marriage is now allowed, so why stop there? Why stop at gay marriage? Allow gays to marry, allow them to be happy, allow them to have freedom! Because what you are doing are segregating them from society! This isn't grade 8 anymore, grow up!
And they are WRONG when they say that kids growing up in a gay home doesn't work, because the problem isn't the parents, the problem is when the kids go to school and other kids treat them differently. The problem isn't in the home, it's the education given to other kids.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Gay people will breed themselves out of the picture .


michele   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

NO NO NO TO GAY MARRIAGE

A RESIDENT IN SOUTHERN CALIFONIA


Mostafa   August 17th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Regarding gay marriage, if the problem rests in defining what marriage is, then if two gay persons want to tie the knots and make it official, then call it same sex parterneship instead of marriage.


Ron   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

absolutely. Period. End of discussion.


dre   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

I used to listen to Dr Luara for more then ten years until she said what she said. I could not beleave she said that. Which makes me question other things she has said. Is she racest is not for me to say, but the words she used are.


James   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

I am a human being, I live on planet earth and I bleed red. So should it matter the colour of our skin or who we marry when we all live on the same planet, breath the same air and bleed the same colour.


Michelle Doiron   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

I live in Canada and same sex marriage has been legal in this country since July 2005. I am a straight married woman, but believe that gay/lesbians should have the right to marry the one that they love. By not allowing them to marry, you are taking away their equal rights. They should be able to celebrate the love they share just like a heterosexual couple and have all the rights as any married couple. This means allow them to get married. This is a fight that has been mirrored many times in history; women's rights, rights for blacks etc. you can compare this movement to the women's rights movement of decades ago. When you have two adults that love each other enough to committ to each other in marriage it should be celebrated regardless of their sexual orientation.


roberta   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

Too bad you don't have Stephanie Coontz on, author of "Marriage, a History." It would change the conversation entirely!


Florence Kaplan   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

Blagojevich being equitted on all counts.....Shame on the juriors....
Could it be that President Obama is part of the "selling his senat seat" deal and has tried indirectly to silence the juriors' verdict".....out with the crooked politicians.....I pray it comes to light. Blagojevich said specifically on tape that he plans to sell the seat....why was the jury hung by one person????????? Could the White House have pulled strings?


Barbara   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

And are polygamists next? What is the difference between rights of a
civil union and a marriage ? Where in the constitution is there a "right to marry"?


Peggy   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

God made Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve.


Andrew Dollarhide   August 17th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

I am libertarian so I default to the individual. However, marriage between a man and woman is special. If it is not, can man marry two women. Can a man marry and animal. Can three men and one woman marry. Where does it stop. Gays can get legally binding contract as a substitute.


John   August 17th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

If kids hear that some other kid has two Mothers, they don't make a big deal out of it, just the parents do. I know many students who have two mothers and two fathers because their parents divorced and re-married.


Patrick   August 17th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Marriage by definition is the holy union between a man and a woman, therefore by definition a gay couple can not get married. In the uk there is a system by which gay couples can in effect be married it is simply called a civil union, but by definition gay couples can not be married.


Joshua   August 17th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

every body from both opposing sides have good reasons..but what about the children? dont you think seeing gays at a young age would affect them? if a 7 year old child walks down the street an sees two guys/girls holding hands or kissing what do you think that child would ask there parents parents? It would really confuse the child


lamont   August 17th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Since the begining it has been man and wife women and man you want to change an entire culture to suite your lifestyle. This country was supposedly established based on christian -judeo belief. You need to read. God instructions in the book of leviticus. And romans chapter 1. Remember sodom


Stacey B   August 17th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

My questions are: a) if gay marriage is an issue about religion, why aren't atheist restricted from marriage? b) if gay marriage is an issue about procreation, why do we allow marriage for those who have no intention of ever having natural children? What's the real issue??


PG   August 17th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Larry, the Minister said that the majority of Americans do not want same sex marriage. Rewind not too long ago, majority of Americans did not want mixed race marriage, and equal rights for blacks.

How would he respond to that?


Tunisha   August 17th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

There's absolutely NO similarities with racism and same sex marriages. Being black is something that can't be changed,being gay is a spiritual choice,to live that way. The lifestyle choice to parade around as such is a farce,that satan has propogated in the minds of those weak enough to believe that way of living. It's outward harrassment to children and heterosexual people to see same sex couples carrying on like they're heterosexual couples. It's an outright disgrace and disrespectful! It's a lifestyle CHOICE,not a race!


bob   August 17th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

seperation of church and state! the gentelman with the collar negates his opionion.the church should'nt have a say.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   August 17th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

There's going to be alot of normal kids killing themselves from finding things in a chicks pants that dont belong there if your going gay be honest about it and dont set traps on normal people .


frank   August 17th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

yes!!!!!!! same sex marriage should be legal!!! Equal Rights for everyone!!!


Robert Griffith Jr   August 17th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Yes gay marriage should be legal. It is a civil rights issue. Face it we are going to have more gay couple raising children either through divorce, death and custodial rights along with surrogacy or adoption, why should they accept a lesser label? Those against cannot point to gays being less moral, caring, responsible or loving in raising a children. They cannot prove that it demeans, disparages, lessens or harms a heterosexua marriage. That is why judge Walker was rights in saying it is a civil rights issue and a protection of minority rights.


Leaf   August 17th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

I love my gay/lesbian friends but I think we should call this union another name and award all the same benefits as heterosexual unions. I'm afraid that if we change the definition of marriage, we may need to include those who may feel discriminated against because they cannot marry multiple partners if the partners are ok with it.
Think it impossible? think again. It's happening in countries around the world so I believe it can happen here.


LIZ CARTER in GEORGIA   August 17th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

I can go with 'gay co-habitation' being considered legal under any other label than 'MARRIAGE'. Marriage has already been defined in the CONSTITUTION, THE LAW, as between one man and one woman. 'WE THE PEOPLE' need to go back to the table and come up with another term for that kind of lifestyle; and that is what it is; A LIFESTYLE! We need to review, renew, rehab, revamp and update CIVIL UNION; enhance the benefits and privileges of this type of relationship. IT COULD BE GIVEN THE SAME PERKS AS A MARRIAGE.


denise   August 17th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

I am tired of hearing about "gay"! As a Christian and a believer in the Holy Bible, God has said that homosexuality is a SIN! No matter if you legalize it, it remains wrong. I feel for those people who insist on legalizing, justifying homosexuality. One day, all will stand before the Holy God and give an account. I wish Christians will continue to take a stand and not be intimidated by the worldly views of what marriage is.


Patty in Minneapolis   August 17th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

OK, I'm a heterosexual woman. Do your two guests opposed to gay marriage seriously believe that legalizing gay marriage will turn me into a lesbian? Why the fear? If you're straight, you will sill be attracted to the opposite sex. Gay marriage will not destroy so called "traditional marriage." Thanks.


Patz Mac   August 17th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

What is the reasoning behind a man or woman being able to marry 6 or seven times but two men or two women being married once? It is as repugnant to gays or lesbians to have heterosexual sex as it would be to straight people to have gay or lesbian sex. Larry, how would you feel if the constitution said you could only marry another man? And, that that marriage superseeded any wish you might have for next of kin, beneficiery on you social security or insurance poilcies, your medical choices or who could inherit anything that you have? That is the situation for millions of gays and lesbians today in America. Maybe if the law read the first man and first woman in a marriage lasted for life no matter what the reason for divorce I might buy into the one man/one woman idea. The present law is absolutely unfair.


Laurence   August 17th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

I feel like your disrespecting and forgetting the single parents out there. My mother raised 3 sons, 2 army vets and an albino school teacher and she did it without a father. Its not the structure of your family but how much your family loves you.

L.C.


Linda   August 17th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

You are all missing the mark
Marriage is the union of two people in love and making a commitment to each other.... the vows read the same for anyone
Your inuendo is marriage has something to do with the idea that then you are able to have sex legally, with approval, rightly and without guilt..
Marriage... has nothing to do with sex.......... that is your problem.
By the way, everyone is doing what the heck they want to anyway......... poeple make a commitment to marriage..........
When whoever does, it should be celebrated, respected and be a supported by all and any services available to them.


sally west   August 17th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

Hi Larry; I am a lesbian. I work with born again hypocrites (sp). I must say that that is NOT true of all of them. However, I truely believe that these people will do a 360 regarding abortion when science can say "Your child will by gay" they are the ones who throw valuable children to the wolves, try any and every avenue to destroy them and "give them to God." GOD MADE ME WHO I AM. How much love to REALLY have in you heart..............you LIE.
Please tell me I am wrong.............I know that I am not. My spouse and I are married, we have been together for 30 years.........can you say the same?
Thanks...............


ese peter   August 17th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

If the legality of gay marriage pass muster as a civil right issue under the constitution, then the same set of arguments could be used to support the constitutionality of polygamy .


Ben   August 17th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

How they think allowing gays to marry will ruin the sanctity of marriage when there are heterosexual couples who are marrying five or six times??? Or when there are shows on TV like Bachelor or Bachelorette that show those people choosing between 20 or more contestants for a husband or a wife??


William   August 17th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I'm not ABLE to be with my partner because, even after years as a couple, I can not marry him and allow him to become a US Citizen – like heterosexual couples can. How is it that keeping us apart is good for society? Do your guests feel that it is right to deprive us of the right to be happy in the same country just so they can argue semantics? If they are so worried about the sanctity of marriage, they should be out lobbying heterosexual people to stop disrespecting it in such overwhelming numbers. I respect the church, marriages, and society, but I only have one life to share with the one I love most. Please America, just give us the same rights you have.


Regina Paterek   August 17th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

GOD created the institution of marriage, not man, GOD. HE made it male and female; not male and male, not female and female. Man is trying desparately to redo GOD's plan which is why there's so much trouble and turmoil. Read Romans 1:26-27 and 1 Timothy 1:10; Scripture forbids homosexuality.

Thank you.


molly   August 17th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

What will be the new challenges in our society if same-sex marriage is legalized? We will increase the percentage of couples with fertility issues. (If you're a married gay couple, you already have a fertility issue.)
1. Both gay and straight couples will find it difficult to adopt as the demand for babies will increase. 2. Fertility clinics will be in high demand. 3. Women considering putting their baby up for adoption will have one more reason to keep her child, that is, if her desire was to have the child raised by a mother and father.

If we believe gay marriage is the "right" thing to do, let's go into it with our eyes wide open.


Sharon   August 17th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Gay marriage absolutely should be legal! (This opinion is from straight woman of 66 who lives in NC)


George   August 17th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Marriage is discrimination against single persons. I don't think marriage should be a legal issue. Married couples(not matter what sex,race,sexual preference,species or whatever) should not get special treatment single people do not get. They should not get special insurance,tax deductions,social security and pension benefits... Its rediculous all this hoopla about same sex marriage Who Gives a crap if two guys or two women or two species want to get married go for it no skin off my back BUT do not give them all these special benefits. Its not fair to us who choose to stay single.
We pay property taxes on value of our homes. A single person can have a nice home and have to pay the same amount of property tax or more than a couple with children who actually use more resources than a single person does.. If you want to get married have children well pay you own way. Pay for your kids in school, pay your share of taxes.
Stop all this nonsense and waste of time argueing about who can be married just change the laws so no married couple gets any special treatment.


Diane Dagenais Turbide   August 17th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Very good wish Stephanie!


Tunisha   August 17th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Kathy Griffin was a person that I liked,as a television personality,but apparently she doesn't know God,either if she's trying to push that movement forward. Kathy,please,get in your bible(and not your bible of jokes),read for yourself what thus saith the Lord! And to Stephanie Miller: join Kathy Griffin in the search for the truth in the bible!


dre   August 17th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

Personly I think that being gay is un-biblical. That being said it is none of my business to tell someone who they can or can't marriage. That is between them and their God.


Detroit   August 17th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

I am a 24 year old black male with a 4 year old that has a aunt that is gay now i agree that the rights of all people should be protected but gay's should not be able 2 marry it sends the wrong message 2 the youth of this country.


Salvador   August 17th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

If gays can't have the same rights then we shouldn't be charged taxes.


No to gay marriages   August 17th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO to Gay marriages!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cody Nguyen   August 17th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Same sex marriage is allowed in countries including Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, South Africa, and even Japan. Why are we still debate on this issue where it has been widely accepted all over the world ? If we claim ourselves to be be the most democratic country in the world, why do we then still behind in this issue of gay marriage ? slowly we have turned ourselves into a strict country with no love and harmony but all about money and power.


sheppard   August 17th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

I'm a child psychologist that works with foster and adoptive children. There is not a shred of empirical support for the notion that gay and lesbian couples make worse parents than straight couples. Virtually all professional organizations involved in advocating and working with children, support gays and lesbians as parents. This includes the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, The American Academy of Pediatrics and the National Association of Social Workers


Brandon   August 17th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

There's no cure for pedophiles, schizophrenics, ..., or homosexuals.


gaudeamus igitur   August 17th, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Being gay is a disease! That's what You guys don't realize or refuse to understand.


Sarah Campbell   August 17th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

People should be able to marry whomever they choose. Of course, same-sex marriage should be legal.

Marriage has not exactly been a stable institution given the divorce rate. Why anyone would want to bother with it at all has to be because so many people are hopeful, wish to be formally committed to each other and I would want to all people to have the opportunity to choose what they want for themselves. Children need good families abd hetereosexual families don't have a patent on good parenting.. Good families come in all kinds of combinations. Children deserve the best nurturers–labels don't count.. Hetereosexuals
don't have some kind of exclusive patent on good parenting. Far from it.


Marguerite   August 17th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

I would like to ask all those against gay marriage, who say it threatens the sanctity of marriage, which of these scenarios is more harmful to the sanctity of that institution:

A man and a woman get married in a drunken haze in Vegas, and get divorced 24hrs later.

Two gay men who have been together for 20 years get married in a church by a minister who supports their decision.

A man from another country marries an American woman to get a green card and citizenship.

I know which scenario I believe is the most respectful of the institution. 🙂


Jean, Toronto   August 17th, 2010 10:06 pm ET

Make it simple with no superfluous with words. This is not a matter of equal rights and fairness. Those who think that heterosexual marriages and homosexuals, the latter including lesbian marriages are one and the same and are to be treated equally are out of their minds and do not have any basic common sense. They also need their heads examined.
A man and a man marrying? A woman and a woman marrying? Are you kidding? And comparing them to heterosexual marriages between a man and a woman? Also comparing them to interracial marriages between a man and a woman? There is no comparison whatsoever. They are not one and the same.
In this scandalous age of immorality, society is definitely harmed by such an intrinsic lifestyle. Two men and two women have absolutely no right to get married. Period! When are the authorities and others who promote, approve, condone and applaud such a type of marriage come to their senses?
If you want to fall in love with another woman, it is your right but do not expect others to force and expect the government to legislate it and others to approve of it. It is totally wrong that a man should be in a relationship with a man and also a woman with a woman. It is sinful and deserves the wrath of God and His eternal punishment.
The Catholic Church is correct. It will never condone and approve this abomination to the Lord. God created man and woman. It was not His intentions that two men get married and two women get married.
These are going down slippery slopes and down the path of perdition. It is immoral and is following the path of Sodom and Gomorrah, the path to Satan's cauldron of eternal fire. If you wish to perish eternally and suffer in Hell forever and ever, by all means, go ahead.
We who want what is best for everyone, oppose it mainly because two men were not meant to marry. Likewise two women. You are sick people, morally and spiritually. You are highly offending our God Almighty Father who is your God and judge of all.
And forget about adopting children. These people, because of their intrinsic, immoral lifestyle do not deserve to adopt children. You're sickos, morally and spiritually.
I believe in traditional marriages which is what God meant for us, for the people of the world. May this be so.


USfriend   August 17th, 2010 10:06 pm ET

This comment goes to your 2 female guests. If we did not have a male and female, father and mother, they will never exist. Therefore promoting “marriage” between same sexes is trying to eliminate the human race. They can call it Join, mingle but never call it “MARRIAGE”.


Eddie   August 17th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

An individual can join themselves with whomever they wish - man, woman or beast. However, it does not obligate society to grant certain legal privelages to that union (e.g. property rights, tax benefits, insurance benefits, and etc...) Marriage, however, is an institution that historically has been between a man and a woman. Society has historically granted certain privelages under law (not inherint rights) because societies believed marriage between a man and a women and family should be encouraged and is good for society as a whole. You can join yourself to whomever you wish, but that does not obligate society to grant you legal privelages. A choice of lifestyle is not a civil rights issue. Here is an analogy. Bob works for Company A and is married to Marge who doesn't work and has one child. Bob pays $500 per month for the Family Insurance Plan through the company. Eric works for the same company and is married to Brenda who also doesn't work and the have 8 children and pays the same premium. FAIR?? Join with whom you wish, but you can't demand privelages that aren't an inherint civil right.


Garnel Dessources   August 17th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

IN GOD WE TRUST is the quote printed on every bill or coin of the United States. How can a Country who have a such Faith in God is Willing to make Same Sex Marriage Legal? God is against Homosexuality and we want to make Legal what God Disgusted the Most. If Somehow Same Sex Marriage become Legal, God will EXPRESS HIS ANGER!!!...


shoshi   August 17th, 2010 10:12 pm ET

I am shocked by the way people in your show talk against Gay Marriage.
Is this the dark ages ? Why every body are so afraid of gays . Its all about Fear that people are limited there thinking . Fear and stupitidy. I hop that gay people will have the same rights as strait!! it so simple every human been should have the same rights in life ,my 10 year old already know that!!


Soraya   August 17th, 2010 10:13 pm ET

Please ask your guesses/listener (especially guy communities) … what they think about polygamy??
Several religions believe in polygamy marriage. Do we have to agree with them if they argue to legalize their right as the first amendment of bill of right and their constitutional right? Why not?!!!!
Since the measurement is “rights to act “not the act itself.


Jeanine Campbell   August 17th, 2010 10:13 pm ET

We live in a society where a serial killer has the legal right to marry. However, if you are gay you cannot be legally married. How ridiculous is that? You can go and slaughter 20 people, go to jail and get married. That is your basic constitutional right and as tax payer we have to "support" this insanity. Why is it that a law abiding person who so happens to be gay does not have the right to be married. In fact, they have less rights than the Richard Ramirez's and Ted Bundy's, and Mendez Brothers of the world simply b/c they are gay. I didn't see anyone marching in front of the jail cells regarding their right to marry in jail while we are paying taxes but these activist have plenty of time to bother the gay community and deny them their civil rights.


Quincy G   August 17th, 2010 10:15 pm ET

Linda Stay.....You are a beautiful human being. We as parents of gay children need to be honest and forthright. Everything you said in your poignant post resonated with me. You are so correct. We need to normalize being gay. If more people spoke up in support of of gay friends or our gay children there would be understanding and acceptance.


James   August 17th, 2010 10:17 pm ET

If we can not tell people want religion to believe in then how can we tell people who to marry, if it is against God then do not allow them to marry in a church. Oh and if you want to use In God We Trust is there not a law saying every one should be treated equally under the eyes of the law. I find it funny how so many religion groups can preach love and yet show so much hate.


Diane Dagenais Turbide   August 17th, 2010 10:18 pm ET

Nobody can claim they know what God wants!


smiley   August 17th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

Larry I cant believe kathy Griffin foolishly compared the gay agenda to being the same civil rights issue as when interracial marriages were opposed. I can see why she is on the D LIST now. EVERYONE STOP SAYING THAT THE SAME SEX ISSUE IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS NOT. IT IS SIMPLY A MORAL ISSUE. Have we forgotten that not long ago sodomy was against the law. Unless all states have changed their laws I'm sure it may still be law in some states. The United states is already no longer viewed as the super power it once was AND IF WE PERSIST IN CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION FROM WHAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED WE WILL SURELY BECOME THE LAUGHING STOCK OF OTHER NATIONS!!!


Roderick Bohannan   August 17th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

Dear Mr.King:
I am responding to your guests comments on the issue of Proposition 8 and Gay Marriage. I strongly recommend that you undertake research on the issue of the History of Marriage. Historically, marriage was about land, control of family wealth and political power etc. If you witness the Catholic Church it banned priest being married not on religious teaching, rather to keep land and monies being distributed because of the issues boen to married or relationship / engaged priest. Historically, in Europe, Asia and Middle east, their were "gay" marriage, although never called "Gay" as its a 20th century word. Within the west, there was a recognition of " sister marriage".

I found it interesting that we now finf our thought of reason marriage being "religious" in principal, when the notion of religious marriage being recognition of church marriage is a 1940 social recognition. Until the 1950, most marriage was civil. and most states did not recognize religious marriage.

I urge you to spend time understanding the history of marriage so as to be better armed to discuss this issue and not allow an emotional and political charged discussion.


Rev.Jas Thomas   August 17th, 2010 10:26 pm ET

when will we grow up sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. we need to gorw up why walk on egg shells all our lives. if you don't know who you are then you accept what people wil call you. if you get a chance read Matthew 5:10,11,12(KJV)
my suggestion pray for therm. if the shoe don't fit don't wear it. when i carried mail years ago one of my patrons had little black staute in his yard, i thank him for the advertisement of our people, the next day believe it or not it was painted white.


John   August 17th, 2010 10:30 pm ET

Here's a joke. Laura thinks her 1st Amendment rights were being violated so she decided to quit her radio show. She is free to say anything she wants on the radio, but she should expect for people to respond, accordingly. I'm a white American. I have no agenda here. Her use of the N word is the least of her problems. It's the other comments and statements she made during her so called conversation with the caller that are bigger than the N word. She wants to hide behind what comics say on HBO, that's fine. But don't use that as an excuse. The fact of the matter is, she lost her composure and went off the reservation. The 8 second clip played during LKL was a joke. This woman gets paid a lot of money to carry conversations with callers and give them advice. I listened to her briefly back in the 90's and found her to be arrogant and insensitive, telling the callers that if they can't help themselves then she can't help them. She has a long history of being controversial, arrogant and insensitive. She claims that this caller was hypersensitive. That's bull. Listen to the entire so called one sided conversation, her side. She's quitting because the pressure has gotten to her and she can't handle it. She will be in her comfort zone on the Internet and her blogs. She thinks that only blacks are pushing back, when in fact, I hear on the street comments being made by many , many whites and other races and ethnic individuals. She made her bad, now she has to sleep in it. She's right to retire from radio, she's not helping anyone and not giving any useful advice to anyone.


nathaniel   August 17th, 2010 10:33 pm ET

matthew chap 19 vs 4 states at the beginning he made them male an female , and for this cause shall a man leave farther and mother, and cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Marraige is out of the bible ,the bible states that gays are a abomination and destroyed two cities for this ,so why do they want of something that doesn't like them. Many lawyers are gays if they want commitment to each other write out a will.


Quincy G   August 17th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Of the 4 people on the panel tonight, I had the most difficulty understanding why the talk show host with the gray hair would not allow the lawyer to answer his question. It was in regards to adoption. I think he believes this woman would automatically choose a gay couple over a straight couple to adopt. What she tried to say is that there are many factors to consider before any child can be placed in an adoptive home. He also seemed upset that Catholic adoption services stepped away because of their position on homosexuality.
This woman is the voice of reason. This same man said the law banning inter racial marriage was not founded on religion. I beg to differ. Christians used the bible to support slavery and uphold the law in regards to making it illegal to marry outside of one's race or faith.

Furthermore, there are far too many children in the USA and Canada who need to be adopted into loving families. I could start a whole other discussion on this subject, but I'l just sign off.


Patricia J. Gentry   August 17th, 2010 10:36 pm ET

Sometimes it seems as though life is always pushing the envelope on us. Just when we accept one group of people and start to get along, just when we are starting to think we are broad-minded and inclusive, along comes another group, another part of this life we are all a part of, asking to be included in our little club. Again, we think "they don't belong" "God only made us and didn't make them" words that for centuries have come out of the mouths of bigots of every stripe are once more on our lips. And we find out again that “God” made us all. We, who are of heterosexual orientation are about to find out that our homosexual brothers and sisters are just as "natural" as the rest of us.
Human beings are the product of many types of traits. Some are hardwired like our eye color, hair color height and skin color. Others are developmental traits like being right or left handed. Left handed people make up a consistent 15% of the population. It is a condition of development in the womb. There are identical twins, whose hardwired genetics are exactly the same, where one is right handed and one is left handed. Further, it is a continuum. Individuals have a greater or lesser use of their non-dominate hand arriving in the middle at individuals who are ambidextrous. Yet, there was a time when we believed that left handed children bore the mark of the devil. Our word "sinister" come from the Latin for left handed. Christianity is heavily biased toward right-handedness. The Catholic Church even declared all left-handed people to be the servants of the Devil. We did all sorts of torturous things to them to make them right handed. We even killed some of them in the depth of our ignorance. We have now come to terms with that. We understand that left handed people are just like right handed people; they just do things the opposite way.
We are now at yet another junction where ignorance, fear and superstition are finally yielding to knowledge, acceptance and scientific fact. There is another developmental trait: sexual orientation. It is a consistent 10% of the population. There are cases of identical twins where one is heterosexual and one is homosexual. It, too, is a continuum. Individuals have a greater or lesser attraction to their non-dominant orientation until you arrive at individuals who are bisexual and can be attracted to people of either sex. This continuum factor explains why some individuals will change their orientation under extraordinary circumstance (like confinement in prison) while others do not. And, this phenomenon is also found in the animal kingdom. A recent article stated:

"There are a lot of animals that have same-sex relations, it's just that people don't know about it," Mitchell said. "I mean, Joe Schmoe on the street is not someone who's read all sorts of biology books."

One particular book is helpful in this case. Bruce Bagemihl's "Biological Exuberance," published in 1999, documents homosexual behavior in more than 450 animal species. The list includes grizzly bears, gorillas, flamingos, owls and even several species of salmon.

"The world is, indeed, teeming with homosexual, bisexual and transgendered creatures of every stripe and feather," Bagemihl writes in the first page of his book. "From the Southeastern Blueberry Bee of the United States to more than 130 different bird species worldwide, the 'birds and the bees,' literally, are queer."

When we get right down to it, heterosexuals who are married are not really “heterosexual.” They are "George" sexual, or "Mary" sexual, "Henry" sexual, or "Donna" sexual. There is one person upon whom we have settled letting all other possibilities go. One person that we love, want and spend our lives with. Our gay brothers and sisters are merely asking for the same right, to recognize the one individual they love and have already been spending their lives with, sometimes for up to 50 years! Let us get beyond this superstitious bigotry and grant equality once and for all.


candice   August 17th, 2010 10:37 pm ET

Homosexuality is a Big No No! Only men & women, Not men&men,women&women. If our creator wanted that way it would've been, but it's NOT as you can see the body parts are unfitly joined....oh boy the next law is going allow you to marry your pet sad sad sad..same sex marriage just not meant to be.


Gina   August 17th, 2010 10:38 pm ET

Unreal, unreal. I see on tonights show the word foster care and the reason a child is in foster care is because "a straight couple screwed up" when talking about gay marriage. I'm not here to defend that statement but here to say that apparently what some of the guest's are saying is that not only did the biological parents "screw up", the grandparents also "screwed up" and apparently the siblings don't deserve their sibling relationships and apparently the family rights such as aunts, uncles don't exist. Now, who's violating whose rights in preferring a gay couple over the biological family because apparently there is an alledged "screw up"? Well, I can tell you that how often this happens I don't know but simply giving birth is not a "screw up" and that is precisely why I can tell you why one couple lost their baby infant directly from a hospital room to another straight non-relative couple. They didn't "screw up". They had NO LEGAL RIGHTS to their baby! NEITHER did anybody else in the biological family. They weren't "screw ups". THEY HAD NO RIGHTS! Why can't any of you understand that yes, you are taking away civil and constitutional rights away from someone for the sake of another! Although, it doesn't really matter if you are another straight couple or gay couple! You have violated somebody else's basic human rights to a relationship! Why can't you people understand that? A gay man will NEVER NEVER NEVER have to experience the loss of a baby directly from a hospital room unless the baby is taken away from the surrogate mother who could care less about the baby in the first place!


steve car   August 17th, 2010 10:40 pm ET

I am a white male. I have been married to my black wife for 15 years. In my county, only 38% of black males graduate from high school. There are many low class, ill educated people here. If they display ghetto behavior, be in on the road, or in stores, I say the n word. if whites do it they are wiggers. The FCC does not consider this word obscene. It describes a low class person. If you see one, call them on it. My work force is 95% black. This word should be freely said if the situation calls for it.


darkshaft   August 17th, 2010 10:48 pm ET

The fact that Anti-gay opponents can’t seem to launch argumentative opinions in the courts on same sex marriages in main stream America is disturbing. Heterosexual marriage is the building block of the creator, it safeguards against depravity and immorality in our society.

Homosexuality is immoral, and same-sex marriage advocacy and gay rights group want their sexual deviant agenda to be accepted. I concern about Homosexuality or their life style; I just don’t feel that Americans needs to know what you do in private.

Depravity and immorality has no place in society, this is why we have structures in place to keep balance to prevent anarchy. Where do the boundaries begin, what will be next, pedophiles wanting to marry underage children because they love each other?

This is not a crime against Humanity like the Civil Rights Movement, as opponents of same-sex unions keep eluding. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, and if the Courts allow same-sex marriages into the general public then social order has been demeaned, and the word of GOD has been disgraced.

One person, one vote, how is Proposition 8 discriminatory and unconstitutional? What about the rights of California's voters, whom approved a ban on same-sex marriage by 52%. and now there vote do not count?

Homosexuals are not being mistreated like African Americans were treated in this country. I am, offended by the Gay Rights Groups making comparison that somehow their issues are the same as the Civil Rights Movement. The difference being, one is a crime against Humanity and the other is a sexual preference.

When the courts start ruling against the American voters then the public’s right to vote means nothing so, why should Americans show up at the poles if our vote is diminished?

Furthermore, those who claim that the life styles of same sex couples who adopt children are not harmful to the child are being deceitful. I personally know people who were traumatized by their parent being in a Homosexual relationship or the activity itself. I am sure if you investigate those findings you will discover many children are harmed psychologically.

Think about it, their saying that all kids with gay parents have no psychological problems with them being gay, which is highly impossible because it goes against the natural order of nature.

What would happen if your son or daughter went out on a date with what he thinks is the opposite sex, later he find out it’s a male pretending to be female or she finds out it’s a female dressed as a male. The fact is, you can hardly recognize males from females in today’s American society.


Dodie   August 17th, 2010 10:51 pm ET

@ CHM

A name from the distant past. (hmmmmm should I call you by your real name?) And how is Laura qualified? So you say, "one can have a degree in anything or nothing and be able to give advice to someone else". Quite true, unless it is televised and under the umbrella of 'credentialed'. This leads people down the wrong path. The "Dr." in this situation implies she is a psychiatrist.
The next time you are in need of surgery, give me a call. I am certainly NO medical doctor (M.D.) however; you are not into credentialed individuals :~)


Christy   August 17th, 2010 10:52 pm ET

Anyone who claims that they believe in the Constitution and still attempts to insert their own chosen religious beliefs into legislation, be it on the state or national level, is a hypocrite in the purest sense. Our nation is built on a foundation of religious freedom, which is a stated right spelled out in the US constitution. As president Obama recently stated, "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, and nonbelievers." No one religion has a right to dictate the moral structure that should be inserted into our legal system – that's what we call separation of church and state, children.

Thus, it is NOT by any means a religious issue whether the United States as a nation should recognize same sex couples. When such a couple is involved in a relationship of the same commitment level as a heterosexual married couple, they should have the same rights and obligations as the heterosexuals do. On a governmental level, this is not an issue of morality; this is an issue of whether or not these couples have the same obligations on taxes, the same obligations for separation payments should they divorce, and the same rights to visit an ailing loved one in the hospital.

The Christian church, the Jewish temple, the Islamic mosque, and so forth should only ever be involved in the decisions of their own faith; they can decide if their faith will practice same-sex marriages. But if a homosexual couple chooses to make a loving commitment to one another, religion should only come into it if that is the couple's CHOICE. If I am Baha'i, why should I care to have the Christian church sanctify my marriage? If you are a Christian, are you going to get married in a mosque? My point is, religion is a choice, and as Americans, we have the right to be free from judgment because of it. The government is a separate entity, and no one has the right to inflict their religious mores upon it.

One more thing: gay marriage is still the union of two consenting adults. To imply that this legislation would pave the way for unions with children or animals is simply ludicrous, and you know it. There's nary a sheep to be found that could ever have the brains to sign a marriage certificate, and nobody wants 12 year olds to be allowed the privileges like driving (16 year olds are scary enough), smoking, and voting that come along with legal adulthood. Barring major bovine genetic augmentations or a massive upswing in over-mature child geniuses, we're in no danger of either in the foreseeable future.


AJ North   August 17th, 2010 10:57 pm ET

Mr. Jackson has objections to same-sex marriage; it will harm heterosexual marriage and children. Gee, as far as the former, if a straight couple's marriage is 'harmed' by the marriage of two other people (which, chances are, they do not even know), then their problem would best be dealt with by a marriage counselor, a therapist – or maybe just a good divorce lawyer. As for the latter, there are no reputable studies showing harm to children, on any level, in being raised by a same-sex couple – NONE. (Well, to be fair, some suffer ridicule from other little hate-filled bigots-in-the-making, but that does not reflect on them or their families, rather it speaks volumes about the families that produced the little pieces of work that torment them.)

In fact, the lies about children being adversely affected if raised by same-sex couples were among the many promulgated by the bible-beating-bunko artists, hate-filled bigots and ignoramuses during the Prop. 8 campaign. Now that the facts of that lie have been widely – and irrefutably – disseminated, the latest state-wide California Fields Poll shows a sharp swing among likely voters, who now support same-sex marriage. That margin is growing.

Prager can trip the light fantastic with language to his little heart's content (and, gee, it's really swell that he knows – and even claims to love – gay people). The fact is that basic human rights are not put to popular votes. As Mr. Jackson and Mr Prager, and their fellow travelers, are so uncomfortable with – or even repulsed by – the idea of same-sex marriage, they would all be well advised not to have one.

As for the religious component, for this is at the core of many of the strongest objections, one's religious beliefs – and the policy of their religious community – are private matters; if you, and they, do not believe in same-sex marriage, don't perform any. The fact is, however, that there are a number of religious traditions and congregations that DO support same-sex marriage, and it is they who are being discriminated against by having others force their own beliefs on them. The bottom line: we live in a secular society. If you don't like that, find a theocracy you do like, and move there.


Mary Skinner   August 17th, 2010 10:58 pm ET

I am a teacher in an elementary school in California. Since Jerry Springer has been on TV I have said does no one realize that the children of those folks are in a classroom somewhere? I have the thought regarding gay marriage. Just because there is a wife and a husband doesn't mean that they are great parents. I want people as parents who are calm, who understand children, and who "get it". Just because they are male and female doesn't mean they are capable parents. I don't care about their sex.


Yvonne Greene   August 17th, 2010 11:01 pm ET

Dr. Laura is great and speaks the truth, some people just can't take it. She has always been straight forward and to the point in a brash sort of way. I don't always agree with her but she should never change, people do listen to her.

Same sex marriage is just wrong and silly and always will be because our holy bible teaches us this.


Jill   August 17th, 2010 11:07 pm ET

when people favor oppression, it is out of fear and prejudice. the Bishop on the show tonight gave an arguement that allowing gay rights would lead to legalized prostitution.......what????? how bout we deal with one issue at a time, and not the unforseen what if's of the future. it's the same rationale behind why legislation in my state wasn't passed to prevent the deplorable conditions seen in puppy mills – the far right activists claimed it would eventually lead to laws against people eating any kind of meat – complete absurdity.

how would your life be directly and negatively impacted by allowing gay marriage rights? – it wouldn't.


Dianne   August 17th, 2010 11:07 pm ET

@Rev Jas Thomas, I donot agree. Words have power, just as the words in the Bible have meaning. Words can hurt and demean. A child cannot grow up to fulfill his or her potential if constantly put down or critized with hurtful names hurled toward them. Words are strong and powerful, they may not break a bone but words can break something more important-the soul.


Gina   August 17th, 2010 11:09 pm ET

When a gay man loses a baby directly from the hospital room; I'm quite sure the news media will be there to console him and say it is just because he is gay. Of course, everybody knows that the surrogate could care less for the baby except for the money or else she would be doing it for free! I personally object to women who think they should just be giving birth to babies for the sake of money! That's another issue that is being forced upon society!


Adam   August 17th, 2010 11:10 pm ET

I'm sorry Mr. Prager, but your arguments just don't add up. You say Catholic Charities of Massachusetts bowed out of adoptions following the legalization of gay marriage in the state. This speaks more to the priorities of this religious organization than to the effects of gay marriage. Apparently Catholic Charities seems to think it would benefit the children more to just keep them all in foster care.


Macky   August 17th, 2010 11:10 pm ET

Miss Miller touched on it when she stated the main reason for the women’s civil rights movement was the ability to vote. Dennis was about to run with her contradiction when he was interrupted with one of the many ego stroking rants by Kamala. The Bishop Harry nailed it when he said we were sacrificing one constitutional right for another. Our right to vote. I voted, along with many other Californians and our message was plain, NO GAY MARRIAGE. PERIOD. END OF DISSCUSSION. And after all the years I’ve voted, feeling it was one of the greatest rights I’ve had as an American, it seems a Judge decided I and my fellow Californians do not have the mental nor the knowledgeable capacity to formulate a logical decision pertaining to gay marriage. Should I just give up as an American? Give illegal aliens a driver’s license and health insurance? This is not about civil rights; it’s about a small percentage of individuals who want to instill their beliefs and way of life on the rest of us. Sound familiar? How about 911? Ring a bell? We need to look hard at our current legal system and see if it applies to current times, especially the power of a Judge to overrule hundreds of thousands of voters.


Shannon   August 17th, 2010 11:14 pm ET

I have worked in the entertainment business in Hollywood for 21 years and there is definitely a double standard!
Any rapper in the world could have said what Dr. Larua said and does and still make millions!
\ She was trying to make a very good point, the point is being missed and this is a lynch mob mentality. I was sitting with teenagers in the car when she said that comment and everybody agreed she was right and no one thought she was being racist.

The fact is she is one of the very few poeple in the entertainment busines who actually gives good advice and has the guts to speak the truth!!!

Welcome to America where you have first amendment rights unlesss you're white!


ROBERT   August 17th, 2010 11:15 pm ET

I BELIEVE IN GAY MARRIAGE. WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD. MAYBE SOMEDAY A PERSON WHO IS GAY MAY SAVE MY LIFE. MAYBE SOMEDAY A PERSON WHO IS GAY WILL FIND A CURE FOR CANCER !..AND MAYBE SOME DAY WE'LL HAVE A GAY PRESIDENT ! OK W/ME..!,,,THE LORD LOVES ALL PEOPLE!..


Sarah   August 17th, 2010 11:18 pm ET

What ever happened to civil unions? Not satisfied with that? Why? ..Money. Federal spouse benefits. I say stop spouse's benefits and maybe all this bickering will end. As a single person, I don't get the same payout from Social Security as a married couple would collect. If I die, nobody gets paid. I need to be buried too. I'm not being treated equally. Where are my civil rights? Boo hoo! Life is not fair. Get my drift? I'll vote for the gays to have the right to marry when I can collect a couple's rate as a single person. I don't care what people do in the privacy of their own home (gay or straight). I'll leave the "living in sin" thing to heaven" .


Robyn from Detroit   August 17th, 2010 11:21 pm ET

One of my biggest issues with Dr. Laura is her excuse for chanting this offensive word to a Black Woman was that Rappers and Comedians use it...This woman did not identify herself as a Rapper nor a Comedian, and since she is married to a White Man with allegedly racist friends and family in his life, I am going to take an assumptive leap and state she may not be big fan nor consumer of Black oriented entertainment on a regular basis ...

The "Everyone's Doing it..." excuse doesn't wash when children or young people use it. Why would a nationally syndicated self professed Advice Guru think this a plausible excuse for her ill mannered and unprofessional behavior? This isn't an issue of Free Speech as much as it's an issue of professionalism and Ethics...
She has neither.


Trysh   August 17th, 2010 11:27 pm ET

Dr. Laura isn't a psychologist! Someone found on wikipedia that she got her PhD in the 70s in biology! She is typically insensitive and uninformed, and tends to offer her opinion as fact! I'm glad she's censoring herself by going off the air! Too bad she's blaming special interest groups and still not accepting responsibility for get career-altering screw-up!!


Carol Johnson   August 17th, 2010 11:29 pm ET

"Dr." Laura has been fired and rightly so, no matter the spin she tries to put on it. And right to the end she cannot seem to face what she did.


Shon   August 17th, 2010 11:49 pm ET

Laura has no idea what hypersensitive it obviously. To make a point about someone being hypersensitive does one use an inflammatory word ... are you serious?! No, she is not sorry or apologetic for being offensive because she brought up Obama that had nothing to do with the caller's concern. She really needs to evaluate where her rant came from and it was not a place of trying to make a point that people need to have a sense of humor, as she goes on to talk about interracial marriage. This woman will go where all other biggots go ... to the internet to make all the inappropriate comments, gestures and rants one can dream of. It just goes to show you that proper diction does not a lady make. AND money and fame does NOT buy you class. Laura's show was an epic failure!


Shaun   August 18th, 2010 12:05 am ET

Larry is mistaken black and latino comedians can tell jokes about white people but white comedians must never tell a joke about black people.


Greg   August 18th, 2010 12:08 am ET

Dr. Laura said nothing wrong...her comments were in context with the
point she was making. I am so TIRED of reverse racism!! Blacks can
say whatever they want and it is ok. This is one reason why racism will
never move forward in a POSITIVE direction. It is shameful.


Sari   August 18th, 2010 12:19 am ET

Of course there should be equal marriage rights. Someone's moral disagreement with gay couples is not enough to deny anyone rights. We should not be able to vote about civil rights. Rights are guaranteed by our constitution. If you substitute the word "gay" with "black" there would be no discussion. Equal rights for all.


Kyla   August 18th, 2010 12:21 am ET

Dr. Laura said NOTHING wrong! She didn't call anyone that name. She pointed out a FACT that has bothered me for YEARS!

My children have been raised that ALL people are equal, but they use the "n-word" that I ABSOLUTELY ABHOR because they hear it on the comedy channel and in movies and at school ... all from black mouths (which are actually pink just like mine, but you get the point)!

Why do we SEPARATE OURSELVES as Caucasian or "African American" or Hispanic? Last I checked, all ANY of us need to be is a CITIZEN of the USA to be an AMERICAN!!! I don't care if you are a yellow-polka-dotted zebra print - AMERICAN is AMERICAN!

Until AMERICA


Carol   August 18th, 2010 12:23 am ET

Sam sex marraige should be legalized-I hope I am alive and able to take advantage of these rights when the country finally rallies around this constitutional right


DON C   August 18th, 2010 12:25 am ET

YES OMG YES Im 47 and been gay all my life been living whit my partner for 16 yrs now and My state of Missouri will not let us marry We are going to Iowa in Sept 8th 2010 to get married as we are tired of waiting for the shallow minded people to allow us to be happy in the US as a hole.


LAH53   August 18th, 2010 12:28 am ET

It is my understanding that Dr. Laura's degree is not in psychology. After her psychotic venomous ranting via the air waves-the woman clearly needs to be put out to pasture. The use of the of the N word in any context, by any one is derogatory and completely unacceptable. Let alone by a pseudo-psychologist.


Mikey D   August 18th, 2010 12:28 am ET

Marriage is about procreation ?

Should those people who not of child bearing age be able to marry?

Should a sterile man be able to marry?

Once a woman has a hysterectomy should she lose the tax benefits that come with being married?


christie   August 18th, 2010 12:30 am ET

the n-word is degrading. nobody should be using it, period.


Raghuveer   August 18th, 2010 12:32 am ET

Hi Larry,

please tell your female guests on the show that......... not having a living praent is not an excuse for same sex marriages..... how can they gguarentee that , same sex partners will be loving and caring all the time, ofcourse even they are also humanbeings, that means even they will have the mood swings like any other humanbeing......

one of your lady guest was not able to answer the question, if she will chose a normal couple(man & woman) or same sex couple( man & man, or woman & woman) to give a child for adoption.................... that it self indicates ...she is not sure what she wants.... or she cannot support her own argument...................

GUYS JUST IMAGINE ..... HOW BEAUTIFUL IS THE COMBINATION OF A WOMAN & MAN............................. DO NOT DESTROY THE BEAUTY OF THE NATURE, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF FANTACIES OF VERY VERY MINORITY PEOPLE ON THIS EART.....................


MP   August 18th, 2010 12:34 am ET

Marriage is definded as a union between one man and one woman only.
The Holy Bible supports "one man and one woman" for marriage only as for God made Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden"male and female"He created them.
God made a mate for the man and called her woman!!! He did not create another man for the man. Read your Bibles for the truth on any subject!
Therefore, same sex marriages should be banned permanetly. never ever legal.
Thanks


Shaun   August 18th, 2010 12:34 am ET

If you spend your life with someone you deserve to have rights to property accumulated during the relationship and the tax breaks available for couples. Marriage however is a religious ritual and should be left for the church, don't mistake me though I do not believe that people who are joined before a judge have performed a marriage ritual and still have the benefits available


GI JOE   August 18th, 2010 12:34 am ET

Words, they can make you or break you, but choose them right. Sticks and stones can break my bones but words would never hurt me. sorry Laura you should have known better.


Evangelist Chatauna Robinson   August 18th, 2010 12:37 am ET

I do not think that same sex marriage should be allowed from a Christian stand point. Marriage is an institution that was established by God. In the beginning God made man and a woman to be fruitful and multiply. He further validates his reason for this throughout the Word of God, which is the Bible. This type of copulation is wrong. Now this is not the only wrongful copulation, but this is the one that everyone seems to give the most attention. You have Sodom and Gomorrah as an example of why God destroyed that city. You have noted in the book of Romans Chapter 1 verses 22-32 that as a punishment for their crime God would turn them over to what is called a "reprobated mind". The word "reprobate" means to disapprove of strongly; condemn and a person damned or lost soul. In my book "The True Road to Salvation" it is further explained. I am not trying to promote my book. I am trying to let people know that no matter how hard people want to except this type of copulation, God does not except it according to His Word. People who have wrongful copulation they have to repent and get right with God. I have a question if they truly feel that their marriage and same sex relations are right before God then why do some of them have to stoop so low as to threaten Christians and their families?


Jamie   August 18th, 2010 12:39 am ET

If marriage is simply a public overture of love, then sure gay people should be allowed to marry.

But if marriage is an institution founded on God's design of creation then it is inherently exclusive by both gender and number.

To me, any union that is outside that which is necessary for the spark of creation is not marriage.


GI JOE   August 18th, 2010 12:39 am ET

Kathy love you to say what you say. If I was ever to be in a fire fight I know you would kick ass, even when I would lose my life guarding yours.


R.J. McGinnis   August 18th, 2010 12:40 am ET

This makes me mad because the constitution was derived from the bible. since then and it says" marriage under God is between one man and one woman." Then we voted it should have been done. But thats not good enough. They have to have it their way!!! Why is that allowed?
Once this passes it changes everything, not just peoples sexual orientation (which should remain behind closed doors anyway, str8 or gay), Our boundaries of law are tampered with.
How about now marrying within the family, underage siblings, multiple men/women now married together, how about your pet? Where will it end if this starts?
It basically comes down to two things.. our countrymen in charge have become passive and no longer have the balls to stand up for the laws that the United States HAD, and sex is the way of the world. No longer is marriage sacred under God. Sad...


Jamie   August 18th, 2010 12:42 am ET

I've been a listener to Dr. Laura for 12 years. Her advice has deeply impacted my life in a positive way, by helping me to have a loving marriage, be committed to motherhood, and by not allowing toxic people to influence my life. I am deeply saddened to hear that she won't be continuing her show!!!

Why do people want to throw the baby out with the bath water? She made a mistake. But that doesn't erase all the wonderful things she's done and amazing ways she's helped people.


Marissa   August 18th, 2010 12:46 am ET

I absolutely think same-sex marriage should be legalized all across the world. Just because someone likes the same sex does not make them any less of a person. They have rights too, they should be able to marry whoever they please and shouldn't have to live through what people say or do to them. No one deserves that kind of disrespect. I understand people's religions but I'm quite confident that their religion also does not promote teasing and even becoming violent to those who are homosexual. It is absolutely ridiculous. This is 2010, America is stronger than this. I'm 16 and heterosexual but I completely support same-sex marriage, why can't you?


lisa   August 18th, 2010 12:47 am ET

I am sorry to hear that Dr. Laura is quitting her show. I have listened to her for many years. I have so appreciated her perspectives on children and family. She is a true advocate for children. Not that I would ever dare call her (I don't want to get yelled at!) I do feel some of her reactions are for show and entertainment. As far as the "N" word goes....I have never used that word in my life and have always felt extremely offended by it. But the past couple of years my son and his friends use it all the time. It is now an accepted word in the young people's culture. It is used in kind of tongue in cheek, teasing sort of way as far as I can tell. At first when I heard them, I was horrified but now I am desensitized. Same with the "F" word. My son thinks it is so silly that a word can offend. He always says, "it's just a word mom" I tell him to never use these words around any one older than myself. The youth of today don't feel that swearing is anything in particular. It is in all the media etc. I would have NEVER said these words in front of my parents but there just isn't the same connotation these days. It is all a big silly joke now. Every movie, tv show, song etc is full of "bad" words. In fact they are used so much, they are not "bad" anymore.


Michelle   August 18th, 2010 12:47 am ET

I have nothing against gay people at all.

Except that God, as said in the BIble, states that marriage is to be ONLY BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

I will not go against that.

All you supporting gay marriage, it is not about fairness or rights – you are going against God's sacred word.

What can I say? the end of the world is coming soon.


Angelie   August 18th, 2010 12:48 am ET

I very much agree with Jamie!


angel   August 18th, 2010 12:48 am ET

I just don't understand why ANYONE would actually WANT to get married. That was... is, one of the most STUPID things invented by MEN..... or was it invented by WOMEN..?
I can not comprehend the FACT that ANYONE would want to LIVE missserable... mmmmm.. let's see.... oh, hers it is.. "UNTIL DEATH DO THEM PART.."
That should say it ALL by itself..
No wonder they want to kill each other and sometimes.... they succeed..... in KILLING each other...


Scott   August 18th, 2010 12:50 am ET

If you agree with the constitution, and as a citizen of the US the presumption is that you are in agreement, you believe in every citizen being treated equally and that church & state should be separate. The moment that marriage entered the public arena with associated civil benefits, people who believe in the religious aspects of marriage lost the right to impose terms on other citizens...it is that simple of a discussion. Restricting government marriage rights and benefits for only opposite sex couples creates inequality; a benefit for one set of individuals that others in the same civil contract can’t access. If the religious interests don't want gay people to have the same rights, then marriage rights granted by the government should be stripped from all opposite sex couples in that same type of civil contract. As long as all civil contracts that involve the government are honored equally, there isn't a problem. A problem exists now because the two civil contracts aren't treated equally.


shelley   August 18th, 2010 12:50 am ET

I do not think that same sex marriage should be legal. Marriage was not designed by humans in order to give people who love each other rights.It is a holy union between a man, a woman and God, a forever promise with procreation at it's core. Created by and for God. I do think that anyone can love anyone else regardless of gender, but that it should not be regarded as a marriage. i fear that allowing same sex marriagewill just open the door to other possibilites...multiple marriages, marrige with children, family members, etc.


Paul   August 18th, 2010 12:51 am ET

I'm a gay man who has been partnered for 30 years. I am married to this man in the state of Connecticut. If Marriage is a religious institution, then, it should recieve no federal privileges. All heterosexual couples should have to go through a Civil Union in order to recieve Federal recognition and Federal tax and Social Security benefits. Their arguement using religion is bogus..it is all about money. Marriage should not entitle anyone to financial or social gain if in fact it is based on religion.


Marissa   August 18th, 2010 12:52 am ET

Also, I do not like when people say that a man and a woman are meant to be together so that they can reproduce. Last time I checked people weren't going extinct. There are plenty of people still reproducing, so why can't anyone let this percentage of the people marry same-sex? Dear whoever is reading, how would you feel if you were not able to marry because you had blonde hair, were Chinese or even if you were older than 45? My guess is that you would not be happy. Well, please put yourself in their shoes and realize that they are people as well and shouldn't need to be kept in hiding because of who they love.


Scott   August 18th, 2010 12:54 am ET

So when Gay marriage is OKed then Gays cannot register as dom.partners for medical benifits or Straight couples must be allowed to register as well


Beth   August 18th, 2010 12:56 am ET

I fervently wish these bigoted people who hide behind their religious dictates would get as upset about spousal abuse as they do about two people who love each other having a civil ceremony to get married. Are they willing to say it should be against the law for someone convicted of beating their wife to ever marry again? Doesn't beating your wife violate the 'sanctity' of marriage much more than the union of two loving people who respect each other?


christopher morgenstern   August 18th, 2010 12:56 am ET

clet dennis know about hadrian marrying a man under Roman Law (basis for modern eurepean law) and same -sex marriage being pevasive in native american culture before the conquest by western colonizing powers. in a word, same-sex marriage is more american than apple pie. inter-racial mariage is not a good example, same-race marriage would be more similar, and i believe that before 1967, blacks werre allowed to marry blacks and whites were able to whites. seperate but equal is impossible as long as the word marriage is not equally accessible to homosexuals and heterosexuals alike. from the swweetest, fondest memories of my childhood i remember my parents reading me stories from the cannon of western litetrature which invariably ended with: "and they got married and lived happily ever after"., and from that moment on, happpiness/happilly became equated with marriage/married via the very same cultural patrimony that delivered the same message to my heterosexual siblings. it would be easier to prove the equality of bathroom facilities than it would to prove that civil union =marriage. it doesn't unless you spell it and pronounce it the same way.
considering the devastation on homosexual teenagers that results in the stagggering probability of suicide in gay teens over heterosexual teens. who is being harmed by the status quo? who would be harmed by a change in the status quo. have dennis check his anthropology and explain to me why my french partner can't come here and get a grren card like any mail=order bride from north vietnam or Russia?


Shaun   August 18th, 2010 12:57 am ET

We do not have the right to decide what people do in the privacy of their own home that is legal under the law. Catholic Charities chose to remove themselves from the Mass. adoption system, never mind the fact that an alarming number of pedophiles involved in the Catholic hierarchy, so I am not sure their opinion of right and wrong is reliable. Hank Williams wrote a line in a song that says "If you mind your own business you'll be busy all the time"


Paul   August 18th, 2010 12:58 am ET

To use the same Catholic Charity argument, would you support Catholic Charities if they only permitted same race adoptions? Or would that be considered discrimination? If they advocate discrimination, then they are breaking state and federal law!

By the way, if both genders are necessary for child rearing, then should we remove children from households of divorce?


Rosemary Lontka   August 18th, 2010 12:58 am ET

Yes,gay marriage should be legal for every one.


Rose   August 18th, 2010 1:00 am ET

Kathy, there is nothing homosexual about being an African American person. I do not appreciate the homosexual community or their supporters trying to say it's the same thing. IT"S NOT!!! It is a LIE put out by and pushed by the homosexual movement. It's insulting to us and gender and race are not the same. Just being used as justification, even to the point of singing our civil rights songs.

Secondly, it is not a civil right! It was made by our creator for one man and one woman with the purpose of having children and whatever HE had in mind. Take it up with HIM! Leave
my people out of it!!! This will be a horrible mistake !!

If there are issues that ARE c ivil rights connected, do something politically to correct that. But marriage was NEVER intended for same sex couples. I don't care what stupid countries are doing it. It's wrong for our nation to go into this direction. I've heard the arguments, but no reasons justify this.

PS. God aready weighed in on this. Read the Book!!


TheVotewillalwayswin   August 18th, 2010 1:01 am ET

Who ever has the most votes will always win. If the wrong people win the vote we will be going down the wrong path. If good people win the vote we will be going the right way. If people with the most votes say that heroin should be subscribed as a medicine, it will be. So we as a people need to set a standard of how far are we willing to go as a people, When will enough be enough? A man should not be with another man and a woman should not be with another woman because they cannot create another human. We are headed for destruction of humans. How can we create more humans if there is no man and woman relationships? I don't hate gay people but we must really look at the path we are on. Who are they following?


Manny De Los Santos   August 18th, 2010 1:01 am ET

Larry, tonight you had the subject of gay marriage and still arguments for and against. I agree with the gentleman with gray hair that our objection is the changing of a definition of marriage. It would be so simple to use a new word. "Gayriage" would define a union of the same sex and would be recognized with all the legal ramifications as a man and woman marriage. What is the problem with that. But no they are determined to change the original definition which is really offensive.


chang   August 18th, 2010 1:02 am ET

The bible was written a long time ago, and man wrote it. I don't think there is a God that would deny two people to love each other. He didn't come down to earth and appoint people rights to judge others and take away their rights. There is no right for ANYONE to judge someone else and to make a decision whether two people can legally proclaim their love. The woman was right by saying that we should give them the rights we promised them in the constitution, while it doesn't hurt anyone else. They just want the same rights as heterosexuals. It's discrimination, and it is the same as race discrimination. The principle is the same, We, as people, are making the decision to judge others who are different from us, and because we think we are more superior and wiser, take away their rights to fit our beliefs. As for gays having children–there are so many kids in foster care because their straight parents can't take care of them. There's no such thing as a perfect family, but to a kid, all they want is love and care and nourishment. Being in a gay family may even teach the children to grow up to be more open-minded!


Deanna Frazier   August 18th, 2010 1:04 am ET

Watching Larry King and Kathy Griffin tonight, from Arizona. I am trying to set up a wedding for my two friends, M and R, who have been together for over 23 years. My plans are to host the wedding in the fall. We all live on a lake, and , I hope to have the wedding take place on the lake, right in the middle. One side is Arizona, and one side is Californa. I would have one official from Arizona, and one from California. M is well known in the community, and. R, has been with a top company for years. I have been a friend of theirs, since I moved here from Montana, in 2002 I have been giving this a lot of thought.
My husband, died several years ago. He had been a hostage in Baghad in the early 90's I went after Iraq and I won.


April G   August 18th, 2010 1:05 am ET

We live in a time of ignorance about what people believe what true love and marriage should be. Love is unconditional and should be a person choice who they want to spend there life with. NO one but No one should tell you who you can or can't be married too.


TheVotewillalwayswin   August 18th, 2010 1:11 am ET

Just because people say the "N" word don't make it right.


Jlong   August 18th, 2010 1:14 am ET

First of all no one should use the N word, black or white; however, not every person that has ever used the word is an evil person...my view is, words only hurt you if you let them.

Gay marriage....Have we all forgotten that this country was founded on the principles derived from the bible and that is what our laws were based upon? So many of our laws now are based upon personal views and what we want, not what is right by God. The law that requires only a man and a woman to be married is a moral law that was made, not a civil one. Therefore, you cannot compare marriage to voting or women's rights laws, etc. God made a man and a woman's body to fit perfectly in union to join as one and to create new life. That being said, this most certainly is not a civil rights issue...as the woman on your show was saying..yes, we should have equality for all Americans in a civil aspect; however, this is not a law derived from civil rights...it is derived from the bible. So I ask you, if a brother and a sister wanted to get married or a father and daugther or polygamist and several wives....should they be treated "equal" in the decision of marriage simply because they are in love? By allowing same sex marriage you are allowing any 2 people to say that because they are in love, they should have the right to be married. If our laws are soley based on equality and fairness, we might as well sign up for anarchy because where do you draw the line at what is equal and what is fair as opposed to what is morally right? I believe everyone should be treated with love and respect no matter what. I care about everyone and I do not judge someone for what they believe or who they love and I most certainly don't believe that any homosexual should be discriminated against or mistreated. I simply believe that the law that requires only a man and a woman to be married is a law that was intended by God and should remain the law as it stands.


chang   August 18th, 2010 1:15 am ET

why do people always bring up the fact that if we allow two same sex couples to get married then what about family marrying family. Does it say anywhere in the bible if marriage had to be between a man and a woman not from the same family? First of all, that would be a health issue concerning the children they would have. There is SCIENTIFIC evidence that homosexuality is something a person is born with. THey do not make that choice to be gay. You make the choice to "love" your sister or your brother. With polygomy, there is still a bond between two people– between the husband and each of his wives.


Allan Young   August 18th, 2010 1:15 am ET

Can a homosexual call himself heterosexual? Would it be considered discriminatory for a homosexual not to be "allowed" to call himself a heterosexual? No, because he's not. Neither is the fact that a woman "can't" call herself a "man".

I'm surprised no-one's used this argument but fundamentally we are talking about a change in definition of a word ("marriage") that holds meaning to many people. Why steal it from them? Why bash them over their head about and demand it be changed to accommodate a definition that doesn't apply? Gays and lesbians make up their own words to define themselves and their lifestyles with words that other people don't consider "sacred" – why not just invent a word to mean the same thing? The fact that I cannot enter a woman's washroom because I am a man is not discriminatory to me because I have an equal alternative. Gays and lesbians also have an equal alternative: make up your own damn word!


jesse   August 18th, 2010 1:18 am ET

im African American and I was adopted in to a white family ! My mom always told me don’t let people try to take a way your rights .I’m not gay but everyone should be treed equal. The older generation needs except that the would is changing. The country was founded on religious freedom. We shouldn’t base a law on the bible . Let people live there life how they want to live it ! Thank you


Nick   August 18th, 2010 1:21 am ET

I am against gay marriage largely in part as to how it afffects me and my family. You go back and look at the several other states that have allowed gay marriage to take place and you will see there are certain things are now imposed upon the public. Specifically in the public education system. Now that gay marriage is law, it has to be taught in public schools. Parents were having their kids (even children in kindergarten) coming home with books and other information teaching them about gay marriage and homosexuality. First of all, as a parent, I want to be the one to even broach the subject of sex with my kids. Second I want to be the one to choose how old they are when they learn. And third, I don't want my children getting two different messages from me as a parent and their teachers at school. I feel homosexuality is wrong, yes I believe they should have their God given rights and should not be persecuted just because they are choosing to be different from the norm, but that doesn't mean it is ok to tell my children that it is ok. It is fine to teacht hem to accept others that are differnt or choose to do things different, but teaching them that it is ok and not wrong is imposing your beliefs and ideas on me and my family and not giving us the choice.


chibuzo obike   August 18th, 2010 1:26 am ET

Hi Larry,
The issue of Gay marriage seems to be given more attentionon Tv than supposed to. My idea or comment on this issue is that Gay marriage is a counter or contra culture in society. If people decide to marry the same sex it is their choice. Therefore, such a person should not demand to impose their way on societal approved system. Anyone who wants Gay marriage should also know that he or she has chosen not to have children and therefore, cannot adopt a child.
We should not be talking about Gay marriage, since it is what some people have decided to do. No body is denying anybody or any rights. Do Gay people ever think of what will happen to a community with same sex marriage ? If such a thing should happen, that community would die out.
Please, Gay people should do their thing and leave the society alone. Legalizing a contra or counter culture is just like legalizing crime.
Chi Obike


lynda   August 18th, 2010 1:34 am ET

What is the point in same-sex marriages? You cannot pro-create children. You have to fight for your rights. You are still an unnatural stigma in society. Operations and drugs have to turn you into the opposite sex. Do you do it for attention? If you are not in a monogamous relationship, you risk the chance of getting a life threatening disease. And, first and foremost, it is against God's laws – men who lie with men will not inherit God's kingdom. I think his view was stated when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. I personally appreciate the differences between a man and a woman. It is the attraction. What has happened to this world – everything that was normal has become abnormal. I cannot agree with this life-style that goes against nature and God's laws. I am sure there will be a penalty to be paid by all who accept and practice this life-style.


AJ North   August 18th, 2010 1:40 am ET

It is truly astonishing – and more than a little troubling – that so many continue to inject religious dogma (usually "Christian") into the discussion on same-sex marriage. It might apply if this were a "Christian" nation; it isn't.

The Constitution and The Declaration of Independence are the ONLY sacred documents that this nation has, and they were manifestly NOT based on any version of the Christian Bible (Old or New Testament) – nor any other scripture.

One has the right to believe as they choose; they do NOT have the right to force those beliefs on others. If you choose to base your world view on interpretations of books written by people who thought the Earth was flat (among other things), that is your prerogative.

I choose to be informed by reality based on science, and that is MY prerogative. Like it or not, homosexuality is as much a part of nature (or, if you prefer, "God") as you are. But again, THIS IS A SECULAR SOCIETY; it does not matter WHAT your scripture says – and if you do not like that, move to a country where it does. Be sure to take your kids.


Steve   August 18th, 2010 1:41 am ET

I hope I can get in here before it is to late. I grew up in a family that believed in a man and woman bound and I was well as my brothers and sister were taught the same way and I have also raised my kids the same way as will their kids as well.

The Bible has stated a man shall take a woman and be as one. The Bible has also stated about a city that was destoried because of gay men wanting a prophet when the the man offered his virgin daughter for them to have and they wanted the prophet, so you can tell me gays think they are right in this thing they want? We all have to pay our dues when the second coming rolls around . Lets SEE what GOD and his son JESUS CHRIST say about that!


Nicole Lee   August 18th, 2010 1:45 am ET

My only concern with same-sex marriage legislation is potential threat to the church. By giving rights to one group of people you are taking rights away from another. Not every religion and/or denomination accepts the same-sex lifestyle, and no law should force a religious institution to act according to secular code of conduct– that is what's unconstitutional. Any legislation on the issue of same-sex marriage should protect the rights of both the church and the same-sex couple.


Tony K   August 18th, 2010 1:49 am ET

Why can't gay people grow up?
I consider myself a very tolerant, level headed person who likes to consider all sides of an argument, but it is so very difficult, at times, to have an adult conversation with gay individuals on a tirade. Today's Larry King 'discussion' related to gay marriage was a perfect example of that.
Here's a quick lesson gay people demanding gay marriage - life has all kinds if disappointments. There is a lot I'd like to have, but because life has its hurdles, I can't have all of them. I'm a grown up. I understand that.
As a heterosexual person who believes that discrimination against gays generally should not be tolerated, I do not believe that gay marriage should be a right because doing so changes the fundamental definition of marriage. Allowing gay marriage is like bowing to pressure to call purple orange, just because people can't stand the screaming any more. Kind of like a spoiled teenager on a tirade, hm?
A lot of heterosexual people have taken a solemn oath before their God with the belief that marriage is not only between a man and a woman for spiritual reasons, but also for biological reasons - that being the natural procreation of humanity. Whether or not you believe in a God, there is no denying that natural human procreation occurs between a man and a woman.
The gay community has made many demands of what they want, and I believe society, in general, has agreed that those rights are deserved.
But as a heterosexual, I'm saying, I want this – I want marriage to be between a man and a woman. I have no qualms with gay couples being treated as married legally, but please, don't call it marriage. Call it a union, agreement, pledge, handshake, contract – whatever. Just don't call it marriage.
On behalf of myself and probably a lot of heterosexuals out there, that's what WE want. Can you, gay community,for once demonstrate some maturity and accept that calling it marriage only hurts your cause? How about behaving like grown ups and realizing that life is full of give and take.
Maybe try giving something back to heterosexuals some times rather than issuing demands then behaving like spoiled children. You might find us more willing to support you more often.


inez   August 18th, 2010 1:56 am ET

Re: gay marriage

One of your panelists was concerned that the Catholic Charities in Massachussetts could no longer operate in the state because of their decision to only have heterosexual adoptive parents.

I find that the Catholic church has lost its moral authority because of their abandonment of children in their own religious institution. I think it is disingenous and obscene for them to become indignant about gay marriage, gay parents or children who are being raised by same sex couples.

I am one of the legally married gay parents in the State of California (one of the 18,000 who married legally after the CA Supremes made it legal). We have two sons and in 2011, will be celebrating 26 years together. We are not unique as a family. We have gay friends who are moms, dads, grandmas, uncles and aunts. Marriage is a legal contract between two adults and it takes on another layer of committment when it is recognized by a religous institution of ones choosing. Its really ot that difficult to understand.


Kyla   August 18th, 2010 1:58 am ET

The DEFINITION of marriage should REMAIN AS-IS! An institution between one man and one woman.

I do NOT even support homosexuality, much less same sex marriage. HOWEVER, there should be LEGAL equality in the USA!! .....

Which seems to require creation of a law that provides a "domestic union license" with the same legal rights (insurance, taxes, etc.) as a "marriage license".

Having BOTH laws will leave GOD as the only one to judge the MORALITY of the license (aka: contract).


Dodie   August 18th, 2010 2:18 am ET

Why must we be a people who continue to judge pertaining to others' happiness? Why not just live our lives as best as we can and allow others' to do the same? Why must we continue to ridicule the gay population? They have the same rights as we do. It seems to me people like the constitution as long as it agrees with their views; however, when it is in difference, they try and alter or change it...much like religion. How many versions of the bible do we have as no one could agree?

We are so busy worrying whether another person is allowed to be married, we not only lose perspective, we waste our precious lives......


Angela Savage Austin   August 18th, 2010 2:28 am ET

THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD

Posted By: Pianke Nubiyang
Date: 27, January 02, at 12:50 p.m.

The Original Meaning Of The "N" Word Had a Connotation Connected To The Gods

The word "nig..." used to be the most revered and sacred word in the universe. It was the "devine epithet," and the people who began using the mother of all words that originated from this word which was sullied by the British, were the ancient Egyptians or better, the Khemites, who called their land, "Khemet" or "The Black Land," and also used the name, "Ta-merri" or "The Beloved Land."

The Word "N-G-R" Means "GOD" In Ancient Egyptian

The father of the "n" word was the word used by the ancient Egyptians for "God." That word was "N-g-r" and as one can see, there are no vowels in this word. In the ancient African and even the present African languages (the Afro-Asiatic linguistic family) vowels such as "a,e,i,o,u" are not found in many translations, particularly of ancient Hebrew and Egyptian languages.

In the translation of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew (which is heavily influenced by Egyptian), one will not always find vowels, therefore, very few people will realize that the word for God, which is "N-g-r" pronounced "en-ger" was the Egyptian word for God. In fact, the Egyptian word for "nature," is also the word used for God. That word is "ntyr," (pronounced net-jer." Now prounce the word "nigg.." and the word "net-jer," and one sees the clear connection.

Many African Words Denoting People Or Important People Starts With "N"

In many African languages particularly the Niger-Congo language family. Words that connects with people, Gods, and groups begin with "n" and that word is always the first word. For instance, the word "Nkosi" in Xhosa is "God." The word "Ndaba," in another South African language is "counsil" (or gathering of elders). Many common names also begin with "N".

Words of African Origins That Came From The Original Word, "N-G-R" (Pronounced EN-JER)

N-g-r (Egyptian;pronounced en-jer) = God
N-t-y-r (Egypt; pronounced net-ger) = God, Devine
Negash (Ethiopia; ne-gash) = King
Negus (Ethiopia; ne-goos) = Emperor
Nkosi (Xhosa; en-kosi) = God
Ndaba (Zulu; en-daba) = Counsil/Officials,
Naga (East Indian, Nubian = People
Nugarmarta (West African = People (See the writings of Ibn Buttata's journey to West Africa)

How the "N" became corrupted:

The Romans are probably the first Europeans to misrepresent the word for God, which was "N-g-r"
About the early part of the First Century, Romans tried to invade Ethiopia.
The Romans who were speakers of Latin always knew of Blacks, there were Blacks in Rome, Italy had an ancient Black presence long before the Latins migrated from Central Asia and North Eastern Europe during the 'Aryan' migrations. In fact, the Latin ethnic groups is still in existance in the northern part of Italy even today. This part of Italy still grips about Hannibal's invasion which happened about two thousand two hundred years ago!!!!

The Romans had a name for Blacks, it was "Niger" and it meant Black or people of African origins. Thus, Septimus Niger would have meant, Septimus the Negro. Yet, how did the Romans connect the word "Niger" to Black.

In ancient times, Blacks were worshipped as Gods. The Gods of Greece came from Egypt. The worship of the Black Madonna is connected with the worship of Isis, the Egyptian Goddes. Moreover, Blacks in Egypt called their Pharaohs "En-ger" or "N-g-r" he was literally referred to as "The God."

It is very possible that when the Romans tried to invade Nubia, they asked for the name of the God and the term "N-g-r" was probably used in place of "leader" or "king". In Angola, the same also happened during the 1600's when the word "N-gola" which means "King" (notice the "N" and the "g" in this word as well), came to be "Angola,' the name of a kingdom in south western Africa.
(Read more on Nubian, Egyptian, West African and ancient American trade and commercial connections in ancient times; see the book, "Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," published by 1stBooks Library, Where did the Romans first hear the original meaning of the "N" Word.

A Roman general invading Nubia from Egypt would probably have used the Egyptian term for Pharaoh, which was "N-g-r" (God). This term then was used to refer to all Blacks and as time went by, the word N-g-r became Niger. In Fact, the Romans also classified their Emperors as "Gods," to follow the Egyptian style. Moreover, as the History Channel poointed out, "Rome was a collection of villages before the Egyptians built it up."(paraphrased).
The word "em-peror" sounds very close to the word "en-jer." That is not a coincidental connection.

The Word "N-G-R" (EN-JER) After it was corrupted by the Europeans

Niger = (Latin or Black/African pronounced "ni-ger.")

Nero = Italian for Black
Negre = French for Black
Negro = Spanish for Black
The English called Blacks "Moore" or "Black-a-Moore" before they began using the word
"Negro" to refer to Blacks. From Tthat word came the racial epithet "Nigg.."

In like manner, the racist term for Japanese the mutilation of the word to shorten it into an epithet. Furthermore, the original name for Japan is the Chinese "Ni-Han." Now here is another great mystry that people who study the Niger-Congo linguistic family would quickly notice. Even the Word "Ni" in the Chinese "Ni-Han," has and ancient African connection. In fact, as Clyde Walters points out, The Chinese language is directly related to the Niger-Congo language which has its roots in the Cameroon region of Africa. In fact, there are thousands of African words from Cameroon to Kenya that have both prefixes and suffixes that are identical to both Chinese and Japanese languages (see also African Presence in Early Asia, by Ivan Van Sertima; Transaction Publishers)

In the Case of "Ni-Han" which may mean "rising sun," there is also a sacred meaning that is found in the word "n-ger," or "ne-gro." Yet, the racist terms "nip," and "nigg..." or "jap," used by racists were and are being used without any understanding of their original meanings. Only hatred and envy comes out of the mouths of those who use racial epithets in their attempt to insult and denegrade others. However, it is up to us to study our history and make these racist words impotent, while at the same time, understanding their original meaning.

Connection with the prefix "ni" with sacred and life:

Ni'le = The Nile River, Life to the Egyptians

Ni-ger = River in West Africa
Niger = Nation in West Africa
Nigeria = Nation in West Africa

Nago = Racist term used by some SE Asians to refer to Black Melanesians of Africoid origins

Nago-Mina = African nationality in Nigeria

Naghual = Aztec word for Shaman or priest. The first Olmec Shamans in Mexico came from Nigeria and elsewhere in West Africa The Origins of the term "HUN."

The racist term for whites also comes from a word that struck fear in the hearts of whites during the ancint times. That word is "Hun." The Huns were Mongol barbarians from Mongolia who tried to invade China and finally succeeded. THye invaded Eurasia from Russia all the way to Germany and mixed in with the Caucasians. Hence, the British began calling Germans the term "Hun."

The countries of Hungary, East Germany, northern Italy, Russia, Poland and much of Eastern Europe is mixed with the Mongol invaders. There were Mongol invaders in Turkey, Afghanistan, India, and many nations.

The Mongols were defeated by Nubians and Mamelukes

When the Huns tried to invade Egypt (sometime in the 1100's), they were met by a strong force of Nubians and Mamelukes (white slaves from slavic, Turkics from Bosnia, Serbia, Albania, Turkey and such nations), who were soldiers for the Egyptian rulers. The Mongols were defeated and that was the end of the Mongol Empire. Moreover, they were thinly spread over Eurasia. They also met a crack cavalry of Nubian horsemen and archers, who had a tradition of archery that extends way back to ancient Egyptian times.

When one studies the history of the Huns in Europe, it is one of the most horrible genocides that existed (the genocide against Black Sudras and Black Australoids in India is another great genocide; he huns ravaged Europe and are said to spread the blacck plague by shooting plague infested rats in the walled towns of the Europeans to infest them.

We Must Study Our History In Order To Develope Our conciousness And Make People's Racist Remarks Impotent

We must study our history. It is by knowing who we are that racist remarks and racial epithets will become impotent. Every time one uses the word "nigg..." to refer to a Black person, they are actually calling that person "God." When we Blacks say that our Afro's and locks are "natural," we don't realize the significance of the word or the true meaning. But something in our consciousness simply cannot be destroyed. To say we are going "natural," means we are going back to being "gods," because the word "natural," comes from the original Egyptian word, "n-t-y-r" which means "God." The ancient Egyptians used a similar word to call their Pharoahs. That word was "N-g-r." The word "Pharaoh," was never used to refer to any Egyptian King. Pharaoh came from the word "Per-o" which was the term for the Great Temple, where the King lived.

P. Barton is author of:
Susu Economics: The History of Pan-African Trade, Commerce, Money and Wealth," pub. by 1stBooks Library,
A History of the African-Olmecs: pub by 1stBooks Library
Susu and SusunomicsP. Barton (P. Nubiyang)

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THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE "N" WORD
Pianke Nubiyang - 27, January 02, at 12:50 p.m.


Pennie,L   August 18th, 2010 2:36 am ET

I am so tired of these people saying it is their Constitutional right. The Constitution say's nothing about being Gay or Lesbian. If a majority of the world were gay the world would'nt even exist. Aman and another man cannot mate, a female and another female can not mate. Every living thing can only multiply by sexual contact with the opposite sex.

I can not believe the people would even listen to this kind of trickory and nonsense. Every one has the right to not be discriminated against gay or straight. Being gay is not a right it is a chose. I do not dislike people who are gay' but I do dislike the fact that gay's think people should except their lifestyle. The world is already in a disaster with the War,Floods,Earthquakes and other disasters. The children are being killed by their own parents and petafiles. The world is populated with serial killers and drug addicts.

What else do you wish to add aliens and human beings' please be for real.


Adam Selene   August 18th, 2010 3:20 am ET

under the first amendment, no-one has a right to language that anyone else is prohibited from.
either no-one has a right too say it or everyone does.
a racist comment is a racist comment regardless of the direction it is traveling.


Carl M   August 18th, 2010 3:28 am ET

As a gay man, part of me is grateful that this question is being posed, as it represents a positive shift in our society.

However, it should never be up to the majority to decide on the civil rights of a minority. Should I, as a white male, decide if a person of color should have the right to vote (or marry, for that matter?). Of course not. It's absurd.

Civil rights are for all, not for SOME. And to be frank, I am sick of being "accepted" (or not) by the heterosexual majority. Just because I am in a minority does not mean I should require the acceptance and approval of the masses in order to live my life as I was created.

I'd like to ask those who oppose same sex marriage- What on earth do you really think will happen?! Do you actually believe that heterosexuals will all of a sudden turn gay and stop getting married?(and DIVORCED....hello?!?!) Same sex marriage has absolutely NOTHING to do with heterosexual marriage. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
We just want the same rights as everybody else. No more. No less.

When you feel it's ok for ME to make decisions on YOUR civil rights,
we can have this conversation. Until then, Keep your narrow minded opinions to yourself!


jlong   August 18th, 2010 3:33 am ET

How did we get to a point in our society that we have come to the conclusion that just because we want something, we have the right to do whatever we want. Without rules, there is chaos and that is exactly what this world is coming to....gay marriage or not.

P.S. So from what I am getting from others comments, they are saying that simply because someone is gay, they have no control over their emotions or feelings because they were born this way and therefore they have no control of their choices? I fully believe that gays and lesibians did not choose how their brains were wired and did not choose to have the desire to love someone of the same sex. However, how we react to those feelings is a choice and that is my point. How can you say that it is possible to be in love someone of the same sex, it is possible to be in love with multiple people, but it is IMpossible to be in love with someone to whom you are related? Because there ARE people out there like that who were born with these feelings and did not want to be born feeling this way. So because hygenically this is not right, it makes it not possible? All I am saying is that many of us are born different than others and have thoughts and desires and love for things that goes against what we were created for, but that does not mean it is okay to act on them. Obviously no one sets out to love someone of the same sex, or multiple partners at one time...that is exactly my point.....I never said being gay was a choice, I simply said how you act upon your feelings is your choice. At what point do our desires and what we desire take precidence over the law and how it was intended to work for our country. Obviously not everyone can have their way, so if you are not basing the laws from the bible from which they originated, then what are we basing the law on....personal needs and wants....people's opinions of right and wrong? Where is the common ground on all issues then, not just marriage? The fact remains is that the laws are being changed so that we can try to be in charge of our own lives and destinies instead of God who created it, and that my friends will eventually lead to destruction.

To all the gays and lesbians of the world, I love you and respect you as people of God and I am in no way saying that how you feel and the way you were born is not important. I feel that everyone should be treated without prejudice and I am not judging anyone in any way. My comments are simply regarding the whole process of how our laws are being changed and manipulated and what that means as a whole.


virgil   August 18th, 2010 3:42 am ET

Accorrding to Dr. Laura's comment which was a blatent disrepect for all african american people everywhere....my comment is that I feel she has a hidden agenda to what transpired on her radio show...my opinion is that she is envious of a cauccasian man marryigng an african american woman...the reason i say this is because Dr Laura was a little to upset on how she spoke with the lady and her concerns...because if the role was reversed and a caucassian woman was married to a an african american...Dr Laura would have been so upset that the man was making racial slurs about the woman's complaint she would have told the lady to confront her husband's friend ..You see I have a couple of brothers who are married to caucassian women and I know better than to come in their homes and make racial comments...So for Dr. Laura to use such a word that many times makes me believe that word was someting she wanted to say for years and to use NAACP as a scape goat was unnecessary...because NAACP has nothing to do with her talk radio.


Peace Symbol   August 18th, 2010 3:47 am ET

I have to add my 2 cents here

Marriage is a Church ideology of a Union between a man and a woman

doesnt our Constitution specifically state there is a divide between Church and State ?

the States have Civil Unions in which case, is there a divide between a man and woman or just a State declaration of a Union ?

therefore if you took it to be in my opinion, no I dont believe in Homosexual Marriage, Marriage is a Church Function

the answer lies in the expansion of rights by the State in Civil Unions / not the inclusion of Marriages of homosexual couples

Peace


Dennis Dobie   August 18th, 2010 3:52 am ET

Your piece on same sex marriage should have been anti prop8.

Gays are mentaly sick and need psychiatric help.

Remember the words to the song "The Game of Love". "The purpose of a man is to love a woman and the purpose of a woman is to love a man!"

Amen!


Riker   August 18th, 2010 3:55 am ET

Neither of your guests who oppose gay marriages gave a compelling reason why they oppose it. For example, Dennis Prager asked, given two equally loving couples, one heterosexual, one homosexual, how would you decide who to adopt a child to? The answer is simple. Using the same methodology as would be used with two heterosexual couples. Whatever that methodology is, the two couples, regardless of sexual orientation, are treated equally.
Also, Mr. Prager stated that, in Massachusetts, Catholic Charities was forced out of adoption proceedings because THEY (CC) prefer to adopt to heterosexual couples. That is THEIR choice. THEY chose to exclude themselves because THEY refused to adapt. That is not the fault of gay couples or the commonwealth of Massachusetts.


Eric Wagenhals   August 18th, 2010 4:02 am ET

Hi Larry, as far as should whether or not gays should marry, my retort is simply that nobody should have the right to marry - because it is a religious institution, and we are supposed to have separation of church and state in this country. Accordingly, everyone should have an equal right to a domestic partnership, of which people getting "married" in the church should have to apply for a domestic partnership permit/license instead of a marriage permit/license.

Regardless, I support those who are fighting for equal rights, even if it is a right that shouldn't even exist how it does in current form.

Very interesting show tonight, thank you!


Christi   August 18th, 2010 4:21 am ET

This whole thing about children cited as reasons for denying gays and lesbians the right to marry is ridiculous, in my opinion. I was widowed at the age of 50 right after my biological clock ticked. By the twisted logic of those opposed to same sex marriage, I would not be allowed to remarry because I can no longer have children. To deny me the right to have a Soul Mate in my life again just because I can no longer have children cannot possibly be constitutional.

The other issue is the separation of church and state. I was dramatically called to Ministry the night my beloved husband died. If my denomination wants to allow me to perform same-sex marriages, why should the state tell my church that we cannot join two people who love each other in sacred marriage? This world sorely needs more love, not less. My religion teaches love. The state should have no right to deny my church the authority to solidify the commitment between two consulting adults who love each other through legal marriage.


Mark Kerrin   August 18th, 2010 4:23 am ET

Hello Larry,
I for one am sorry to hear that Dr. Schlesinger is deciding to move on and yet maybe she is correct her first amendment rights are more important, but those groups can still attack.

Today, special interest groups seem to empower networks to market shows, reward bad behavior. In the case of Hispanics or African American / black comics who use terminology such as the N-word by black comics, why is it their exclusive use? Exclusively their perspective use is alleged to cater towards their respective racial groups, yet they also market cross over of all races.

I for one find it disturbing that groups that attack a comment made by a person of another race on grounds that they are not of that race is as ludicrous as the recent gripe by a former fashion editor pleading on CNN that her former magazine should only hire black females because they are still the only black owned fashion magazine and its their only way to gain experience, or so she claimed. That sounds amazingly similar to comments made by some white organizations in the pre 60's era arguing that various magazines, newspapers, etc. should not hire blacks because of their race. She stated she moved on to mainstream magazines that obviously were white and did not see anything wrong with that. Is this not a clear double standard?

We are missing the point, our focus, it is the use of the word that is so offensive, which is not a joke, and should not be supported in the comic world and elsewhere. If a person is qualified and hired by a black magazine and they happen to be white then it is not the attack on the magazine but should be used to examine why in 2010 the fashion industry has only one African American owned magazine if that is the case. A magazine, black owned and with a large black target clientele may wish to add a large cross over appeal of the white race or others, if that was there aim. What percentages of African Americans are taking their multimillion-dollar business elsewhere which seem to support these other magazines? Why do groups attack a person of another race yet not attack the use of the term or word by a member of that race or the shows sponsors? Why is it okay for minority comic to point out a white member of the audience to use in a joke but if a white comic did the same towards a black member of a largely white audience it is deemed a racist attack? Of course it would depend on the joke black or white.

Our focus is off in America. As an American I don't see anything funny or productive to our children's vocabulary or future by seeing it used by comics. For one I find it offensive if a joke about white people, as if to imply all white people, is used in jokes or misleading facts about the civil rights movement and today. There were and are millions of white people, coupled with other races that overwhelmingly brought about change that directly impacted the black race, the black race did not effect change alone starting before the Civil War. Their were racial laws enforced prior to the civil war that were extremely severe that were targeted towards whites that aided runaway slaves. Today, we see a proposed law that implies similarities in the Arizona immigration law by authorizing a civil law suit against any police officer who fails to enforce that law. Why is this enforcement clause not found in other criminal laws in Arizona?

Racial terms, racial implications in our laws are reawaking and should be addressed, once and for all. Well once and for all, they have been around in America since before the states were formed. Rosa Parks was known as the Mother of the Modern Civil Rights Movement, which started before the Civil War. Today it continues with a war on immigration rights, text book history and a war on words, etc. The election of a President of the United States, who is qualified and happens to be part African American, to say anything different disrespects his mother and her family does not change what was a vocal point, injustices, intolerances by race or other terms eats away at the core of America, it’s people.

Mark Kerrin
Former National Security Director to Rosa Parks, 1994-2005


Peace Symbol   August 18th, 2010 4:23 am ET

About Laura
Why is it blacks actually use the n_word affectionately between themselves, I have lived in poor areas where there are more blacks then caucasions an they do use the word often n_-- is very common between them.
most ( whites ) uttering the word are screamed at or even worse have been beaten for its use
why this double standard
laura although i can sympathize you blew it im glad you apologized its going to take alot of time to integrate afrikan americans into the system in a manner that will be good for the whole of society


Megan   August 18th, 2010 4:25 am ET

WOW! It takes a lot of nerve for ANYONE to imagine they have a right (much less a duty) to determine whether or not consenting, loving adults of any sex, race and/or religon,etc.... are aloud to marry, and raise families.

My husband, son, mother, brothers and sisters, 10 altogether, as well as the MAJORITY of our friends support same-sex marriage. SO PLEASE! Mind your own love & life and STOP wasting our tax $$.

M., El Paso, Tx.


TINA From NJ   August 18th, 2010 4:45 am ET

Dr. Laura's so called apology is not heart felt, you could see it feel it right through the television. She shouldn't wait to December to quit ahe should quit today. She is not giving expert advise anyway because she is not an expert accoring to the education she has had. How does someone just get handed a job like that without being qualified. She is a mean hateful woman and she can't get off the air fast enough for me. She just doesn't get it. She said a lot of things she didn't apologize for, and I know it's because she is not sincere in any way. She is out of touch and she said the N word all those times because that's how she feels not to prove any type of point , unless her point was "I'm gonna say the N word as many times as I can fit it in to this black woman who is married to a white man who she shouldn't be married to because she is hyper sensitive. How the hell does she know that about a woman she talked to for a few minute , how could she be able to judge that woman so fast like that? Maybe she thinks all blacks who push back against racist remarks are hyper sensitive. Good bye Laura and good riddance . PEACE Sister


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:03 am ET

How does the US justify restricting free speech?


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:04 am ET

It is a shame she feels she needs to apologize.


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:07 am ET

So she has ro leave radio to avail herself of the first ammendment.
What a sick state the interpretation of constitution is in..


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:09 am ET

If she was from China and this story happened in China, the US would be blasting hte chinese persecution of free speech.
Living in fear of the consequences of what she says.


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:17 am ET

Lying to federal officials?
How could that be against the law after the US lieas about WMD to the netire world?
Police state USA.


charlie   August 18th, 2010 5:19 am ET

24 charges and they can only prove one?
And that one is lying to investiators?
I thought you were not supposed to be forced to incriminate yourself.


Kingsley, Riverside Ca   August 18th, 2010 5:21 am ET

Hey Larry,
Think for a moment say this wierd spirit possesses everyone – I mean the whole world – and every one becomes gay or lesbian, which means everyone is either into same sex marriage or will eventually be into same sex marriage. With this type of union there cannot be procreation. When there is no procreation, it means at one point the world we end. No you, no me, nobody. We dissappear, no trace.
Okay, maybe this scenario is too much of a calamity to imagine. Now say for the purpose of procreation – because no one wants the world to end and thereby rendering the wierd spirit to hover in a vacuum. Say in some arranged manner, individual in one same-sex union can engage the services of another individual of opposite sex who is also in another same-sex marriage. Then how are we going to define father and mother for the innocent child who will be a product of this partner swap?
I try to make sense of this same-sex thing but its kind of hard for me to understand. Larry, if you ask me what I think of people involve in same-sex, I will say "their sexual frequency is unbelievable".


Rosa Siqueira   August 18th, 2010 5:42 am ET

I simply believe that the law that requires only a man and a woman to be married is a law that was intended by God and should remain the law as it stands.

All the countries are strong because the foundation are based on family life.


dong   August 18th, 2010 5:44 am ET

Gays have all the rights to be happy but please do not redefine marriage, it's not just about their rights - married individuals of opposite sex also has interest in this issue.


Rosa Siqueira   August 18th, 2010 5:48 am ET

I simply believe that the law that requires only a man and a woman to be married is a law that was intended by God and should remain the law as it stands.

The foundation of a strong country comes from united families.


Seddy   August 18th, 2010 6:03 am ET

You can not raise an intellegent child without a father or without a mother.

No to gay marriages.
No to spoiling the world.


Rob   August 18th, 2010 6:08 am ET

Gay Marriage is an INEVITABILITY. More than 68% of 18 to 29 year olds in the state of California already SUPPORT it – this figure will only RISE with each generation.

To all those opposed to same-sex marriage, to all those opposed to the granting of equal rights and the full pursuit of happiness for all – YOU ARE THE BIGOTS OF TOMORROW. And shall be remembered as such.


Jesse Bailey   August 18th, 2010 6:08 am ET

To CNN, Larry King Show

I can not hold my peace at this outrage of lewd behaviour fronting itself as a civil rights issue. How can you compare the enslaving or oppressing a race of people with injustice by holding them back from their God given civil rights as human beings to that of an organized, self- interest group of individuals who have chosen a lewd, condemned lifestyle to practice contrary to the will of God for human beings? How can one frame his thoughts to call this behaviour a civil rights issue? These groups of individuals are not being deprived of basic necessities of life (food, shelter, employment).

On the Larry King Show Tuesday night, August 17, 2010, the question was asked “Do You Think Same Sex Marriage Should Be Legal? Do You Support Same Sex Marriage? Is it a Civil Rights Issue?" My answer is NO, NO, NO! The answer to this question was settled at the Cross on Golgotha’s Hill by the Savior of the world, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. His death on the Cross condemned sin in the flesh and destroyed the powers of darkness and Satan over our flesh. We no longer have to live after the flesh and its lustful ways. Sin in the flesh was and is condemned. To live after the flesh and the lusts thereof is death. But to live after the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus is Life and Life more abundantly.

Lord, Your Word is stedfast. Help us to stop sinning against our own souls? You have set before us a free will to choose life or death. Have mercy on the sinner who wants to be delivered from the evils of this present world (the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life). Deliver us from the powers of darkness, from the kingdom of Satan, death and hell. Deliver us from the rulers of darkness and spiritual wickedness in high places in the government of our nation.

It is written in the Holy Scriptures given to man to live by, to study to show thyself approved of God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Lord Jesus You are Truth. You are the Way, the Truth and the Life . Over 2000 years ago You shed your blood to redeem man from all sin and from the kingdom of Satan. You triumphed over all principalities and powers, making a show of them openly.

It is written that all shall be taught of God. None have been excluded from your love. Man has been given help to live right before You. For You so loved the people of the world that You came into this world as a baby, grew up and offered Your Life on the Cross for a sin offering for the forgiveness of man’s sin against God to save our souls from eternal destruction. You purchased life (Salvation) for all that would believe in Your death, burial and resurrection, and confess You as Lord. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord. We can through You live a holy and righteous life before God and men.

To the lawyers, judges and individuals who choose to live and operate contrary to the Lord’s righteous will and way established for mankind to walk and live in, let it be known that you do have the right to exercise your free will to choose right or wrong, God or Satan, life or death. God is Love. He loved us when we were lost without hope. He loves us enough to help us to destroy the enemy’s hold over our flesh and to deliver us from the kingdom of darkness when we repent, confess our sins, turn from our wicked ways and turn back to God and His righteousness. God will also honor our decision to reject Him and His righteousness. I beg you choose Jesus Christ (Life).

Please stop calling a condemned lifestyle a civil rights issue. This is an immoral, corrupt behaviour issue. Homosexuality is sin, turn from it. Sexual immorality is sinning against one’s own soul. This lust is one of the ways the devil (Satan) tries to destroy us and have destroyed many men, women, youths, and families. Men marrying men and women marrying women God has already issued His judgment on this sinful lifestyle. It is written in the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible the punishment of such.

For elected leaders of our states and nation to continue to support or court specialized interest groups, such as gay/lesbian organizations, by passing ungodly laws for political gains is wrong and the leaders are misleading and misguiding the people under the Constitution of these United States. The leaders that do this are bringing the judgment of God on themselves and the people they claim to love by supporting their pernicious lifestyle. They have revealed their hearts: they hate God and they hate the people, but they love the specialized “voting power” to stay in office, in power, and in influence. Individuals who continue to engage in this type of sin after being warned by God through His Holy Scriptures are endangering their souls. They are choosing death rather than life.

As for me and my house, we choose life and Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, Teacher and Guide.

This is my cry for change, a transformation of the mindset of men and women.

Jesse Bailey
Muscle Shoals, AL


christopher morgenstern   August 18th, 2010 6:16 am ET

Please disegard above and consider this edited version my contribution. Please let that belligerent Dennis know about the Emperor Hadrian marrying a man under Roman law (the basis for modern European law) and same-sex marriage being pervasive in Native American culture before the conquest by western colonizing powers. In a word, same-sex marriage is more American than apple pie. Inter-racial marriage is not a good parallel example to same-sex marriage. Same-race marriage would be more appropriate. And I believe that before 1967, blacks were allowed to marry blacks and whites were able to marry whites. Separate but equal is impossible as long as the word marriage is not equally accessible to homosexuals and heterosexuals alike. from the sweetest, fondest memories of my childhood I remember my parents reading me stories from the cannon of western literature which invariably ended with: "and they got married and lived happily ever after” and from that moment on, happiness/happily became equated with marriage/married via the very same cultural patrimony that delivered the same message to my heterosexual siblings. Yes, “happiness” as “in the pursuit of happiness”. It would be easier to prove the equality of bathroom facilities or educational institutions than it would be to prove that civil union =marriage. It doesn't unless you spell it and pronounce it the same way. For homosexual and heterosexual separatists alike, I personally would like the option of saying “I do” if I should choose and t’ain’t nobody’s business if I do (given somebody of the age of consent should ask). Lady Laura Bush never asked me if she could wed and although I would have warned her, ultimately it was her choice. Lady Bush, as it turns out, happens to be one terrific human being.
Considering the decimation of homosexual teenagers that accounts for the staggering probability of suicide in gay teens when compared to that of heterosexual teens, exactly whom is being harmed by the status quo? Have Dennis check the scholarly anthropological records of Homo sapiens relations and explain to me why my French partner can't come here and get a green card, residency and eventual citizenship under federal law like any mail-order bride from North Vietnam or Russia.


Natasha   August 18th, 2010 6:30 am ET

Hi, I am against gay marriage because legalising gay marriages would cause chaos in society especially when it constitues of a diverse range of religions. Besides christianity against this, other religions such as Muslim, Buddhist etc are also against this. Although society does have non religious people, it's majority is religious. Also, human rights.Quoted from a UN resolution on Human rights, " Equality. No individual and no nation must be denied the opportunity to benefit from development. The equal rights and opportunities of women and men must be assured. " BUT "Tolerance. Human beings must respect one other, in all their diversity of belief, culture and language. Differences within and between societies should be neither feared nor repressed, but cherished as a precious asset of humanity. A culture of peace and dialogue among all civilizations should be actively promoted." Beliefs, culture, these are things we should be preserving. Yes, gays and lesbianism have even dated back to the times of the ancient chinese and greeks but they were "in the dark",why ? Because they knew that it was wrong. It is not a matter of progress but a fundemental question on what is marriage? What kind of environment would you want children to grow up in? Although human rights constitues equality, we cannot forget that we are living in a society, WITH people, our actions have consequences that will affect the children of others. We may not mind gay marriages, what about our neighbours? Can we all truly accept living in a society without a father or mother figure? Who then would be the head of the family?


TONY DIOGU   August 18th, 2010 6:40 am ET

How in the world will a man born of woman say he or she is sane to say that he will want gay marriage to be legalized? Some say it is civil right. and some say don’t deprive people of their happiness.

Do you know that terrorist gets happy when they kill, so we shouldn't deprive them their happiness. Should we because a section or group of people who makes gay or lesbian practice as their happiness allowed then evil constitutional rights?. We should also legalize prostitution because some people feel happy leaving like that. So because of constitutional rights we should allow what is very immoral to go on because somebody wants it that way or say he or she is happy about that.
America is God's own country and the devil is looking for a way to bring this great country down.

Let those judge, lawyers who were not born of man and woman coming together vote for gay marriage. I see some women and men who couldn't leave up to or who failed to keep their relationship or marriage canvassing for gay marriage. Those who are not man enough or woman enough.

They think is safe and that they have found happiness therefore it should be legalized. A grieved heart can hold anything for comfort. Some takes alcohol etc it doesn’t mean it is right. Some people who are wick to stand challenges of marriage or relationship who spoke on CNN with LARY KING should go and examine their life, in every broken relationship the two parties have to share the failure. Either you were so selfish to know he or she wasn't the right person or you don’t know what to do to keep the love going. Let them go tell their mother that she made a mistake bringing them to this world. Marriage is derived from the Holy bible and if we are talking of marriage we should follow the bible way of doing it and not constitution. If gay or lesbian where given the right in the bible then they should be given the right if not let them find their own terms or way or word not marriage. Playing politics with this well known subject or matter is very bad and shows the decay of truth in our society. History will judge us and for me gay or lesbian is evil. Larry say your own let us hear and God will judge us all.


Owolabi ayorinde   August 18th, 2010 6:43 am ET

I think gay marriage is stupid and unnecessary thing to talk about.
My question is if katty griffins parent were gay, would she be alive talking silly things about allowing a gay marriage? also if Miller wants to be gay why announce it to the whole world? My view is gay people can do what they want but why impose it on others. Also why would they want to adopt a child since you are gay? Gay means you cant bear child so why would gay people want to infiltrate our society with their stupid idea? I think the court should grant them their sole called right, but under any circumstance should they be allowed to adopt a child. We don't want the innocent child to be thought what is called ABOMINATION and different meaning of the word MARRIAGE.


K. Andries   August 18th, 2010 6:44 am ET

Some of these views are so stunted, I can only shake my head in dismay and disbelief. It is unbelievable that we are still debating these issues in the 21st century. Marriage is a legal contract. But if you want to steep it in religiously sentimental overtones, then I'd argue that there are many gay couples who are more "married" in the eyes of God than many straight couples. Violations of "the sanctity" are in excess – the man/woman aspect is the least of them.

Bishop Jackson claims that "(gay marriage) will fundamentally change how we view the world." Well then please, bring it on, because it's about time our views of the world were fundamentally changed.


Rickey   August 18th, 2010 6:50 am ET

Mr. Larry King I "THINK" i have found the answer to the problem of same-sex marriage, why not change the laws or create a new law in congress that says since same-sex marriage can not bear kids in any normale since of the word it should be legal BUT! at a very high tax coast and thats yearly with a contract that must be renewed every three years, and when you have these people pay so a high coast for love we will see just how long and how much they are willing to love and pay the cost, just create a new bill of law for gay or same-sex marriage but make'em pay.
Rickey end of problem.


Saili Lombongo   August 18th, 2010 6:55 am ET

gays have no benefit for society at all. we need children for society to grow.children that gays adopt are made by heterosexual parents, so what benefit is gay marriage.you have your own choice but do not bring it on other people.


P53   August 18th, 2010 7:11 am ET

This Dr. Laura Schlessinger bum is such a hipocrite. If someone were to insult Jewish people with anti-semetic, and racist rant's, she would be in a state of anger, and protest against such a person. Not to mention the media...They would be going ape-s#!t. This is the double standard: When you control media, and wrongly decide, what is a Constitutional right, and what is slander, libel, and racist; as is in
Schlessingers case. Even til the end, she trys to defend her own racism against Black people. With the media's help of course. This is why the media does polls. To get at many racists that feel the way Schlessinger does to agree, then try to justify her racist behaviour. If Schlessinger had any self respect, she would simply, and honestly, and sincerely (not like her day-after sarcastic "apology"), apologise, and retire, out of respect for the masses of people she hurt.


sue   August 18th, 2010 8:02 am ET

same sex marriage is a disgrace to humanity. I don't see see how a woman should find another woman sexually appealing. If this menace of gay marriage is not stopped, then having sex on the streets will soon be legalized.
Ahhh!!! people like stephanie miller and kamala harris are abomination to humanity they should stop eating into the moral fiber of the country by hiding behind human rights...


P.   August 18th, 2010 8:54 am ET

I'm so sick of hearing about the N word. NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
You people make me want to say it. NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN


Vicki   August 18th, 2010 9:00 am ET

The debate last night on the Prop 408 topic between the four individuals was appaulling! Especially, the two women who seemed unable to allow the other two men to speak, and who were nothing but irrational and emotional in their responses. The two men on the other hand were calm, cool, articulate, and stuck to the issue. As a woman watching the discussion unfold, I was embarrassed. Those women did absolutely nothing for womankind whatsoever.


Ted   August 18th, 2010 9:28 am ET

And when in Rome the times were bad, people had nothing to eat because of bad harvest and constant wars, the emperors invented the circus.
There the hungry romans could watch all day as gladiators bashed eachother, sprewing blood and flesh all over the sand. It was better than romans bashing the emperors, at least from the viewpoint of the emperors!

Today we have the same pleasure on LKL , bashing eachother for miniscule differences, meanwhile the emperors of today, (here you can name your favorit president or congressman), enjoy their lives.
Don´t we have hunger, wars, joblessness, illnesses and other problems, and should we not go after the causers of those, instead of bashing eachother?

When the "creator" created the human race, we were a single cell being without sexual differences, no gender. All animals and humans come from that simple origin.
It took us hundreds of millions of years to become what we are today, going through stages unimanigable today. The Bible with its 2,000 years is only a very miniscule part of our history and quoting it as the basis of our culture is simply stupid.
You quote the Bible to prove your point, I can find exactly the opposite in it to prove mine. That should take care of it as the fountain of all knowledge.


Gerald Jolly   August 18th, 2010 10:03 am ET

Kathie Griffin,

A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW A FOUL MOUTH NO TALENT INDIVIDUAL SOMEHOW SQEEZES BETWEEN THE CRACKS.


Chukas Alayi   August 18th, 2010 10:11 am ET

it a pity for USA that they debating such abomination issue like that,that Man will mary Man and Woman to Woman.we know USA as people who trust God,they know quite well that God created Woman for Man,and not Man to Man,USA motto we know is in God we trust,why they are not respecting what God has made to the nature as it is,if they legalized such a thing that will be the down fall of USA,m


Teddy   August 18th, 2010 10:33 am ET

Dr Laura or whatever her name is, is a moron. She should have known better. As old as she is, she made such a big mistake by using that word in her talk show. I think she is angry because of something. She is just being spiteful. I think she should be that person she claims to be and tell the whole world why she is being such a joke and childish. FOR THEY SAY AN OLD PERSON IS TWICE A CHILD – Shakespeare.

Forgive me all you good old persons.


Gina   August 18th, 2010 10:47 am ET

Larry,

Just a word of advice. When it comes to talking about foster children or the foster care system: NOBODY knows every story that is out there. NOBODY can claim to be an expert on why a child or baby entered the foster care system. The ONLY people who know that is the biological people involved and the people expressing a concern which doesn't necessarily constitute a "screw up". I can only tell you that there are a variety of reasons and the only two I can speak of did NOT involve a "screw up". Simply people expressing a concern and because of that concern of course things can go "haywire"!


Gina   August 18th, 2010 11:08 am ET

Anyway my point is that you do need to go to the source of those stories (foster care) to gain the truth. There is no such thing as an expert on EVERY story! In those stories it is not a "one size fits all" kind of story! In fact, the person who can provide a better insight or unbiased viewpoint is actually someone who knows the situation but not personally involved!


Max Brody   August 18th, 2010 12:19 pm ET

MSNBC is reporting that Larry King agrees with dr laura that her 1st amendment right weve violated. How could he ? She has no right except to say what she wants and still has no protection against disagreement or economic boycotts of her sponsors. She said what she wants, and even if she writes it , she faces the same criticism and boycotts by any sponsors she has. She may not admit it bbit she is a racist and a bigot. We minorities know all the screens and catchwords,. She aint foolin noonw with her apology nor is it an apology to the woman she offended and verbally abused.


Perry Coleman   August 18th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

As for the issue on same sex marriage....I'm for Prop 8 because I want my kids to grow up knowing what is right and what is wrong. It isn't taking away anyone's rights at all. The gays still live together and do as they wish even if the state of California recognizes a man and a woman as husband and wife. The people of the state of California have voted on prop 8 and made it pass. The gay people refuse to accept that and want to keep on fighting it until they can marry in the state. The judge that took away the voters rights and declared it illegal and gays should marry is wrong. He took away the voters rights because he was gay himself. The real problem is this, to all Christians, muslims, jehovah witnesses, and Mormons, it's a sinful lifestyle and they don't want this to be influenced on their children in schools and books etc.. We will train our children good morals and behaviors but we will never teach them to hate gays. Hate is being used as a crutch by gays. Hate isn't what all people of faiths teach. I personally have a brother that is bisexual, a sister in a lesbian live together realtionship for 25 years, and a brother in-law that has been gay for 9 years. Do I hate them? No. People can live and do whatever they want in the USA. However, when those rights violate the moral rights of our kids, enough is enough. This will have to become a Supreme Court debate. Our nations leaders starting this country have never made any recognition of same sex marriage at all or even the lifestyle (weather it was in the closet of some or not). As a Christian, I can't let people destroy this country because they want to live in sin. God will not bless a country that lives in sin. Our fathers have raised this country as a Christian/Judea country and it was blessed by God. To take away that will become destructive to our country. God bless and love to all!


Erika Lehnsherr   August 18th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

I am tired of seeing/hearing people cite "the Bible" as a justification for condemning homosexuality. We need to remember that the Bible (or, more accurately, the composite of ancient scrolls, etc. from which "the Bible" was put together) was written by men of ancient times, and therefore reflects the cultural biases and prejudices of those times. We of modern times have at least made *some* effort to cast aside those prejudices. The fact that this debate is still raging only shows how much further we still have to go to truly grow up as a people and as a civilization. We will never be truly mature as human beings until we can all accept each other's differences without condemnation. Marriage should be equally available to all, be they heterosexual or homosexual. To those who say that allowing homosexual marriage would o¶en the door to polygamy, what if it did? There are people today who live that way, although it is currently illegal. They should be allowed to openly live as they choose too, without fear of legal persecution.


Timeteller   August 18th, 2010 3:04 pm ET

Yes, so let everyone decide to be gay couples and let's see what happens to the human race at that point! Gay marriages is far more dangerous to human society than we could ever imagine. This will be the end of the human race and the beginning of our ruin if we as a people allow it to be. It is the most ridiculous fight I have ever heard of from mankind and it angers me that this argument is being made a civil rights issue. NO WAY should this ever be a civil rights issue.


Tim   August 18th, 2010 4:28 pm ET

On the subject of gay marriage, It hurts nobody! No harm will come of it! And as for all you people that have such horrible comments about the LGBT community shame on you!!!!
One day you will need to get down on your knees and beg for forgiveness from the same God that is going to judge you just as you are judging others!
Please NOTE! The LGBT community is not calling anyone names or demeaning anyone's humanity; yet in this short line of comments have come UNDER ATTACK!! for a reason that they had no choice in!
Ultimately Gay marriage effects no one except the two people that enter into that marriage.
The hatred and oppression that spews from the walls of organized religion is tearing this country apart, just as it isdoing to the Middle east! STOP IT NOW! Good God Man!!


Tim   August 18th, 2010 4:34 pm ET

Yes Perry it is Hatred! There is no other word for it. We are all humans created by God and you are trying to oppress some of them! As for gay marriage hurting children, YOU HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! Shame on you!


Valeria T   August 18th, 2010 4:52 pm ET

Percy - to call homosexuality "living in sin" is the same as saying you hate it. Are you even on speaking terms with these bisexual/lesbian/gay relatives of yours? I doubt it. As for what the Founding Fathers intended, it was *not* to create a "Christian/Judea country" (as you put it); if it had been, they would not have included the clause about separation of church and state. As we are free to worship (or not) as we choose, so we should be equally free to love whom we choose, whether that means man/woman, man/man, or woman/woman. To love one another, to share our lives with our chosen partners, is not and should not be a "sin"; to say it is only promotes discrimination and hate.


Mike Nache   August 18th, 2010 7:37 pm ET

I love my gay friends and acquaintances. No bigoted feelings here! I do, however, find the comments below defending same-sex marriages illogical and incorrect. Should we really have the right to marry whomever we choose, based on our mutual love? Can I marry my cousin, or my child, or both of my neighbors' wives? The government should legislate the same rules across all state lines FOR GOOD REASON. Secondly, is this truly about equal rights? How are my rights to marry different from any other gay or straight man? Answer...our rights are the same. It would be like saying "legalized use of marijuana" is about equal rights. In truth, it is about bending the rules for everyone to benefit a sement of society that deems those rules as unfair (which indeed, it may be). Dennis Prager tried to make some excellent points on the show last night, but the opposition refused to answer his question Yes or No. How political.


Andrei   August 19th, 2010 12:05 am ET

Do you think crimes for pleasure and crimes for interest should be legal?


judy   August 19th, 2010 1:42 am ET

hats off to Kathy. go girl!


Jennifer White   August 19th, 2010 5:03 am ET

Gay marriages already happen. They have been happening long before any state issued a marriage license. The fight now is to be treated equally under the law, to be able to purchase the government issued marriage license. It doesn't change your church, your culture, anything. Marriage licenses only afford people the protections for their family and property that heterosexual people can obtain at any time.

It's hard to buy the argument that the marriage license is sacred with divorce rates at over 50%, and if you're heterosexual you can get legally married in Vegas by an Elvis impersonator and annul it the next day.

To say "if we give some people rights then everyone will want them" as in the polygamy argument, is absurd. That's like saying if we let people bungee jump others will want to skinny dip. Totally unrelated.

This is a fight for civil rights. Civil rights are rights related to the freedoms and liberties associated with being a citizen. I'm sorry, but people of color don't own the term. People have to fight for civil rights when they are discriminated against for something that should have no effect on their rights as a citizen; such as race, gender, or sexual orientation. Refusing to allow gay people to marry is the same as refusing to allow inter racial marriages, refusing to allow women to vote or own property, or allowing employers to refuse to hire people in wheelchairs because all of those elements of what a person is should have no bearing on their ability to access the same legal rights and protections that other people do and to be treated fairly.

Discrimination is just plain wrong. The argument that we are "un-natural" has been debunked. The argument that we might in some way cause harm to society by getting married has been debunked. Whether or not people like us, we deserve equal protections under the law. It doesn't matter why we want them, or who else may want them, or if someone thinks their religion says we are bad. None of that matters because we are all citizens of a constitutionally protected country.


Valeria T   August 19th, 2010 8:17 am ET

Timeteller: one should be careful about making blanket generalizations such as 'let everyone decide to be gay'. Over-generalizing can lead to errors in logic, and this statement is a prime example for several reasons, the most glaring of which is the reference to deciding. People do not 'decide" to be homosexual; this is something that is, for want of a better term, 'hard-wired' into the individual. One can no more choose to be homosexual than one can choose to be heterosexual. To address another of the logic errors in your statement: I am guessing that your other comments "let's see what happens to the human race" etc etc, refer to reproduction. I am reasonably certain–as certain as any average human being can be–that there will be plenty of heterosexual people around to supply us with future generations.


Kevin Berwick   August 21st, 2010 12:52 am ET

I am all for gay marriage. And if sombody will do some resarch there are more devorices in heterosexual marriages and mix marriages then in gay or lesbian marriages. So there for if they want to stop a marriage then I think they should stop heterosexual an mix marriages. Equal rights for everyone. And there is more shacking up in the hetero relationships then in any othere.


Kris   August 21st, 2010 9:04 pm ET

Wow, all Dr. Laura did was paraphrase, its no big deal. As a matter of fact its true, so don't be mad at her. Its not like she turned into Kramer for a night.


Someone   August 21st, 2010 9:12 pm ET

Hi Larry,

I just wanted to say this, how is it ok for someone to say the WORD but not ok for the Dr. As in the conversation the caller and the Dr. said the WORD, if it is looked up in the dictionary it can be used for a White person or a Black person. If one race can not say it then none can. We have the freedom of Speech in this country, she in no way called the person on the phone the WORD nor did she indicate that she was talking about Blacks. I feel we need a WHITE NAACP.


Heinz Wartski   August 21st, 2010 9:13 pm ET

Laura Schlessinger's First Amendment Rights can never be violated, and she knows that.

She also knows that her sponsors have the right to discontinue financing her whenever she creates a negative atmosphere or unfavorable image for their identity or their products.

By making that First Amendment Rights statement, she is trying to intimidate her sponsors with a falsehood.


Aidyn   August 21st, 2010 9:32 pm ET

I believe if people of different race can be married then people of the same sex can be married. What is the problem with homosexaul marriage? They can't be silenced!!!! What if this was flipped??? if straight marriage was illegal wouldn't u feel the same way?????? Equality is important in life! People get bullied or harrased or abused just because they are Homosexual, Bisexual, Lezbian, or Trans gender.


Mike Brady   August 21st, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Yes it should be legal and should have been legal a long time ago!


beverly   August 21st, 2010 9:36 pm ET

ask her about her "cross" around her neck!!!


Christine Labuda   August 21st, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Yes, I think same sex marriages should be legal.....
I am a 58 years old Mom of a wonderful Gay man....all Gays
deserve the same legal rights as heterosexuals.


Aidyn   August 21st, 2010 9:41 pm ET

I believe if people of different race can be married then people of the same sex can be married. What is the problem with homosexaul marriage? They can't be silenced!!!! What if this was flipped??? if straight marriage was illegal wouldn't u feel the same way?????? Equality is important in life! People get bullied or harrased or abused just because they are Homosexual, Bisexual, Lezbian, or Trans gender. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =


John Tennison   August 21st, 2010 9:48 pm ET

It is amazing to see what some people believe to be right without thinking about morals and Biblical teachings. It is amazing to see the heresy that some people tend to use in reference to the Bible, but do not dare speak out against the Koran for fear of being intolerant.

I think there is definitely a double standard for racial bias in America today. I think there is hypersensitivity to the racial slur used by Dr. Laura to discuss the topic with a black woman that wouldn't accept Dr. Laura's apology because she could see down into Dr Laura's "sincerity". Any race except a white person can get on the air and be as abrasive and aggressive as this woman. It is true that liberals don't want to debate, they just want to keep conservatives quiet. Dr Laura is an intelligent, thoughtful caring woman. It is true that her right to free speech is being taken away when she can't say what she wants to in order to defend conservative views on the air. However, it is OK for a person like Howard Stern to spew the kind of language and subjects that he does without retribution.

On the subject of gay marriage, gay relationships are not healthy or natural. There is not anything that says these relationships have to made legitimate. If two homosexual adults want to live together, that is their business, but doesn't require that I have to support their desire to think this is right or what they want to do with legal rights equal to a heterosexual marriage. The blessing of children comes out of a heterosexual union. What comes out of a homosexual union other than consensual sex?


matt   August 21st, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Same sex should not be legalized homosexuality is a sin and the legalization of gay marriages would bring this country down!


Jennifer   August 21st, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Re: Same Sex Marrage...
The man against allowing same sex marrage this evening said that historically only men and women were allowed to marry; that included all religions, and cultures through history. I would like to weigh in on that comment. Historically, married couples were not allowed to divorce; historically, women were not allowed to own land; historically, women were chattle. That also includes all religions and cultures, historically...
I think he shoud come up with a new argument


Denise San Luis   August 21st, 2010 9:49 pm ET

I disagree with Kamala-Gay people have exactly the same rights as everyone else. It is illegal for heterosexual people to marry someone of the same sex, just as it is illegal for homosexual people to marry someone of the same sex. They can marry, but it must be to someone of the opposite sex.


beverly   August 21st, 2010 9:52 pm ET

really....are you kidding me. The re are people dying everyday in afghanastan and children starving to dealth. what is wrong with this world. who cares about aame sex marriage. (I am straight)) I m happy if ANY two people love each other enough to marry.


Georgie   August 21st, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Larry, my partner & I have been together for 14 years. We work, pay taxes, own our home, own nice cars, contribute to society. We participate in our childrens academic, athletic, christian activities, as well as Scouting. Yet, we ARE NOT LEGALLY recognized. We cannot marry. We do not receive SS benefits if the other dies.
It is not fair. If I were straight, I could marry a man, then one of us could be added to the others insurance benefits. Unfortunately, my partner & I do not have the same rights as 'straight' people. For Pete's sake, a man can marry a whore he just met, yet add her to his benefits package at his place of employment.
As you mentioned, at one time blacks were not allowed to marry. Idiots joke about all of their 'bastard' children. It is NOT their fault. Our government did not allow them to marry. Our government messed up the black race for decades. Our government does & has done the same thing to all of us who are homosexual. Get a grip.
How many of you who are so against gays are closeted? How many of you deny your own children & grandchildren the joy of legal marriage, just because you don't understand or accept our lifestyle? We are not freaks. We are just people with lives very similar to yours, to every other family.
Georgie


Kerry   August 21st, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Gay marriage won't ruin marriage, the divorce rate already did. We, straight Americans, ruined what it is to be married. Not people who choose their partner regardless of how much ridicule they'll receive. What harm does other people's personal life cause you?


Nancy Sullivan   August 21st, 2010 9:55 pm ET

AMAZING! Concerning same/sex marriage. In the final analysis, the only answer which is correct is the one that God has given. Has anybody bothered to read his Word and see what He says? People, God started marriage with one man and one woman, and if you read the Bible, He still says marriage is one man and one woman. And you may do what you want, but ONE DAY we ALL will stand before God and let's see what He has to say to each of us on that.


townsley   August 21st, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Again, Prager is factually incorrect. Several studies have demonstrated that children of gay parents are equally as healthy as those in straight families. A recent large study just came out that showed that children from lesbian parents actually do better than their peers. Regarding the Catholic adoption agencies in Massachusetts, Prager is engaging in hubris–they were **not** kicked out. They voluntarily chose to stop helping children because they did not agree with state policy regarding gay marriage.


John Hester   August 21st, 2010 9:58 pm ET

By anyone or I should say most, homosexuality is deviate behavior. By all laws, by religious beliefs, it is simply an unnatural and deviate lifestyle. If someone enters into it willingly I could care less but to ask a state to sanction this abnormal and unnatural act as if it is acceptable, is totally wrong. It is state law, the Federal government has no business interferring because its civil rights have not been challenged. To attempt to change the law should be taken to the people. I believe common sense will always say woman and man, son and daughter, family.


David   August 21st, 2010 9:58 pm ET

I believe that same sex marriage should be legal everywhere. just because you are gay doesnt mean you are a bad person. telling gay people they cannot get married is like say a black person cant marry a white person. i believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with with gay people. you dont choose to be gay you are born gay, if gays werent meant to be on this earth god would of never made people that way!!!


Chris   August 21st, 2010 9:58 pm ET

I want same sex couple's to have all the same benefits as current married couple's today. But you can't use the word Marriage to join them It needs to be called something else to protect the beliefs of Christianity where the word originated from. I do feel that we as Christians need to except the difference's that are happening in the world today. But as we learn to adapt to these difference's, they need to still respect our beliefs.


Becca   August 21st, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I believe the definition of marriage should stay as it is for a man and a woman. If our government decides to allow gay or lesbian unions then it should be termed a different name. I think that Americans need to understand that it can be dangerous to start changing definitions of what a idea/word was intended to be, especially since it was ordained by God. A good example of definitions changing would be how the insurance companies have changed the definitions of medical necessity. There was a time your doctor, who knew you the best could decide what was medically necessary for you, however some state governments have allowed medical necessity definitions to include being based on cost. WOW! How did the insurance companies get the state gov. to agree on this? I bet our Federal gov. are working on some new definitions for what they plan to provide to the American public. Marriage should be as it was intended, for a man and a woman. If gay or lesbians are allowed to unite then it needs to be termed by another name.


Tracy Buck   August 21st, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I feel same-sex couples should be allowed to Wed. Thus should be a right in every single state. We need to stop the discrimination of gay couples. I have two uncles who have been together for over 35 yrs. They should be allowed to marry if the want to, just as I as a woman married my husband 21 yrs ago.


Eduardo Moncivalles   August 21st, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Why is it that people are arguing the wrong points?

Marriage is a function of and is defined by religion.

Civil unions are a function of the state.

The two are not equal.

Marriage cannot be dictated by the state because of separation of church and state.

Gays should not get special treatment due to their sexual preferances.

That brings up the question as to whether pedifiles also need to have the right to marry due thier sexual preference? Where is the line that muast not be crossed.

Unions should allow folks to unite according to the laws of the state.

But, unions that involve children and other extra-ordinary couples should never be allowed.

As for the constitution, it provides for everyone to have the same legal rights according to common law....not according to functions of the church.


Richard   August 21st, 2010 10:01 pm ET

I have an opinion that I haven't heard from anyone else. I would like to see marriage removed from the entire legal system. Marriage should not be a matter of legality, it shouldn't exist at all. The legal system should not have any say at all regarding with whom anyone shares their life. People can still get married in the traditional or non-traditional ceremonial means, and it has nothing to do with the legal system. Heterosexual and non-heterosexual marriages would be neither legal nor illegal, it wouldn’t have any recognition. Take the example of conservative Catholics, marriage is one of the sacraments, like baptism, communion and confirmation. These sacraments are neither legal nor illegal; they are not recognized by the legal system, but by their congregation family, as is marriage. There should no marriage certificates, no judges or justice of the peace performing marriages; no marriage records, it doesn’t belong in the legal system. Most important to the conservatives, is that they can still get married by their same traditional conservative means, and non-conservatives can get married by any means. All marriages will be recognized by some and not by others, and doesn’t matter because it doesn’t affect anyone’s legal status or human rights.


Jean, Toronto   August 21st, 2010 10:01 pm ET

Dr. Laura was wrong to use the 'N' Word and "Don't NAACP me". Making such remarks showed her bigotry, lack of compassion and understanding. Her words were discriminatory.
Debating the 'N' word. The other issue is also that Dr. Laura's response was unnecessary. She was crude and rude and her response was uncalled for.
Imagine going to someone for advice on how to handle a situation and you receive such a demeaning response. It is shocking and disappointing.
There are some such people in the world as Dr. Laura , those who do not possess her credentials and so-called expertise. It is a waste of energy, and not worth the time asking them for advice. This is found out only after they are approached for advice. The type of mentality they possess projects in their response. It will make one say, why did I waste my time.
A woman of Dr. Laura's caliber, who is in such a position, offering advice to callers, should have known better. She was by no means diplomatic and helpful to the lady-caller.
I do believe that Dr. Laura needs to return to school, college or university to upgrade her speaking, response and interaction skills. From what I heard she said I am by no means impressed with her personality and humane skills.


John Tennison   August 21st, 2010 10:01 pm ET

When the Constitution and Declaration of Independence were formed and written, there was no intent for marriage to be a right or something all people entitled to. In fact, this is not even mentioned in either document. Loving home does not require just two adults. Every young child – boy or girl – need constant and direct influence in the home by the opposite sex. It is healthiest for a child to be raised by a loving heterosexual couple.


Cesar   August 21st, 2010 10:02 pm ET

i cant believe how they can compare race with sex? you choose to be gay but you cant choose to be black,white or chinese , i dont have anything against gays i think that they should be given the right to be together if they want to, but not under marriage , marriage should be respected as a union between man and women!! whats going to be next? if i want to marry an animal it should be legal too because im in love with it? come on!! when is this going to end? our society is screwed up !!! im tired of all this libertinism!


Veronica   August 21st, 2010 10:03 pm ET

The problem the United States have is labeling race. When we look upon each other just as American, and not as black, white green,red! We can move forward. So the next time someone asks," what is your nationality", tell them "American!"


Anthony   August 21st, 2010 10:05 pm ET

I want to know why these fanatical black church leaders think there should be no gay mariages. Why can't gays have rights, don't blacks have rights??? How would they like an enactment of a law to take black rights away. Ask them what they think about double standards.


John Tennison   August 21st, 2010 10:06 pm ET

It is also very disappointing how the word tolerant is used today. You are tolerant if you accept homosexuality as a different lifestyle, but you are not intolerant to abuse and scorn a Christian and his or her beliefs. You must be tolerant of someone's religion – Hindu, Buddhist, Islam, New Age, Judaism – but it is not required to be tolerant of Christianity. A Muslim can be planned for with the five times per day prayer, but a Christina can't have a Bible at their desk. What's wrong with this picture??


Sasha   August 21st, 2010 10:07 pm ET

If people are happy with the person they love then don't bother judging them. If the child is raised in a good environment, grows up well, has no worries, but is happy, then let them be. We shouldn't have the right to tell someone that because of who they love they won't be good parents, or they shouldn't get married. I thought marriage was a bond between two people who love one another very much, and will spend the rest of their lives together no matter what. I just think we as humans are just rejecting gay marriage because we're scared of something new but to be honest, love is nothing new. Just respect people, be happy there happy, and go on living your OWN life.


terry   August 21st, 2010 10:09 pm ET

Children can not get the nurturing from a same sex marriage that they receive with a hetro couple. There are things that children need to supplied nurturing from both a man and a woman. Same sex couples just can not provide it. If ssm people want to adopt i have no problem with it but they need to realize they need more. Furthermore if God wanted children to be raised by same sex couples He would have created Adam and Adam not Adam and Eve.


John Tennison   August 21st, 2010 10:16 pm ET

Interesting how a person uses the law to support a liberal view or liberal lifestyle. Interesting that our founding fathers were believers in Jehovah God. Much of what our country has accepted as fundamental today is really scary and just not what was intended by the original founders.


Carmen   August 21st, 2010 10:18 pm ET

This country was founded on Christian principles, and if you "Trust in God", the Bible (God's word) tells us not to indulge in homosexuality, it is a sin. The books of Leviticus, Romans, and I Corinthians discuss homosexuality and marriage. Marriage should be between a man and a woman, that is the natural and spiritual order of things. Men and women are anatomically and physiologically different because God made us that way. If you are unsure, just ask Him! I'm sure He'd love to hear from you.


Chris   August 21st, 2010 10:20 pm ET

It's not going to end at Gay Marriage next it will be about how many husbands or wives you can have.


Sara Massachusetts Hamlen   August 21st, 2010 10:24 pm ET

Same Sex Marriage: TRUST THE PROCESS. John Adams wrote the Massachusetts constitution: it is older than the US constitution. It has proven to be a flexible and firm document. Our legislators were asked by the Mass. Supreme Court to consider and to debate – which they did thoroughly and at length. There were many public votes, and a transparent process. Now six years later, ten thousand same sex couples have wed joyfully. The sun still rises and sets as it did before.

I cheered many many friends who wed at midnight in Cambridge MA, May 17th. They ask for your recognition and understanding: that they are a couple: that they are bound together by law, that all the previous laws of their home state now apply equally to them, and that should illness or sorrow come, that these laws will protect the widowed or the orphaned.

I pray that both sides will RELAX and TRUST that the strength of the founders and the constitution they wrote – knowing that all voices will ask to be heard.

There is no "wrong" side of history, truly. It's just that we're still "writing" that history. There are no short cuts. (It's not a Disney movie with animation.)

The principle of treating people equally under the law was won only after many centuries of injustice. It will always be a work in progress.


Cecilia   August 21st, 2010 10:26 pm ET

Well–okay, so let's let anyone marry anyone-don't take away my civil rights by preventing me from marrying my neighbor and keep the husband I have now--and while we're at it why don't we let the pedophile down the street marry the child he has been keeping in his home–he should be allowed to file jointly with his "wife" too--eventually the far left elitists will judge and make decisions for the rest of us ignorant conservatives until anyone can do anything to anyone–I am sad and almost fearful of what is happening to this beautiful nation.


Natalie   August 21st, 2010 10:40 pm ET

I'm really tired of the gay rights people trying to force their way of living on everyone. Saying that their civil rights are being violated is not true. Civil rights were about people of color being treated as a human. The right to walk on the same side of the street as a white person or to go to school or have proper housing. Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and woman. I see young people everyday boys dressing as girls, girls dressing as boys, and some are going both ways and no one is speaking out and telling them that in the eyes of God, "for those who believe in God" this is a sin, and you will pay a greater price in the end. Marriage is taken so lightly these days by everyone. Now you have people asking judges to make a decision on something that God decided before any of us were even born. Leviticus 20:13-21 says "if a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have commited and abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. NRSV Bible.


maggie   August 21st, 2010 11:29 pm ET

The argument I hear is same rights/benefits for married and gay couples. So let the modification of laws, contracts, etc include the gay couple but marriage is between man and woman. That cannot be changed by any civil law or constitution. God created woman for man and this has been tagged as a marriage. Homosexuality is not and never will be a union created as a marriage. The wages of sin is eternal death.


kj   August 22nd, 2010 12:34 am ET

this will be an ongoing problem forever. the n word is no different than any other racial word you can think of. so if get called a racial slur can i get on tv too and pretend ive never sad anything bad in my life like jade lol. please give me a break!! everyone has and they cant pretend they havnt. they get called the n word and they think there owed the world back lol so why dont they stop using the n word themselve because there just reminding everyone hey the n word s ok for me to say so guess what? im going to use i too.....point is who really cares what someone calls them???? its never going away live with it and grow up!!!


Chris   August 22nd, 2010 12:36 am ET

Should never be legal


Rita M.   August 22nd, 2010 12:37 am ET

No I do not believe in Same sex marriages, God created Man and women, he created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.The Bible says Man and Women should Marry.


Eric   August 22nd, 2010 12:58 am ET

I feel like Kamala Harris just talks in circles and is very wordy to make herself sound smart.


waseem   August 22nd, 2010 12:58 am ET

Marriage isdefined as bond between man and a woman...as God put it in the Bible and Quran and is also true in other most practiced religions. Please do not over write God's worlds by legalizing the same sex marriage. It should and must be against the law.


Stephen P. Wright   August 22nd, 2010 12:59 am ET

As a gay man, I have to say that marriage is an Equal right. Look at all the divorces in straight marriages and the marriages that consist of an abusive spouse. Gay marriage does NOT harm straight marriage. Bigoted people need to get over it because they are doing much more harm to people that gay marriage and gay adoption will or could ever do. The United States of America is SUPPOSE to be the country of Freedom. How is bigots telling homosexuals who they can marry giving the gay community freedom.


LMJacobus   August 22nd, 2010 1:01 am ET

Did that guy really just say black, reds or yellows???? And is the "bishop" kidding me? These two guys are insane. The old guy is so obviously out of touch and the bishop doesn't seem like he would be all that against it.


Jeffrey Demyanovich   August 22nd, 2010 1:01 am ET

On same sex marriages, any statement that says it is morally wrong, or against the law of God, is immediatly forfiet based on our constitutional right of seperation of church and state! Don't try and force your religious views on me! We are talking about basic human rights, the right of an individual to choose, without religious bias. This is a Consitutional right.


kevin   August 22nd, 2010 1:05 am ET

I wonder if a person that murders another feel their civil rights are being violated when the "commit a crime" probably but this act is against the law it is law that marriage is between a male and female it is equal murder. this type of relationship will ruin the very fiber of our cultivating process. and it is not law and should not become law.


Ally Desrochers   August 22nd, 2010 1:10 am ET

Greetings from Worcester, Mass.,

I was adopted, 1984, through Catholic Family Services in Hartford, Conn. I now live and work in Worc., Mass. and the opinion most commentators on Larry King espoused lacks accuracy.

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts embraces all; it is the Catholic Diocese that unfortunately shut out the option of adoption for same-sex marriage couples-not the oppposite.

In the tradition of John Paul II, and for the benefit of adoptees whose biological parents are selflessly seeking a better life, hopefully the Catholic religion will embrace a policy that does not "cut off it's nose to spit it's face." I have great expectations it will take a different stand in the future.

Sincerely,
Worcester Ally


JDate   August 22nd, 2010 1:14 am ET

Same sex marriage is fine, however I do believe that there should be some way to designate that the marriage is a same sex union from that of a hetrasexual marriage...The marriage nthing is all about getting the same rights as a married man & woman....so give them those right, but just do not call the union a marriage.


Bonnie of Charlottesville, Virginia   August 22nd, 2010 1:17 am ET

This issue of gay marriage is an issue of the laws of man vs. the laws of God. Man is trying to change God's Word to fit his lifestyle.
Read Romans 1:24-32 which is about God's wrath against mankind, and how the civilization during that period in Biblical history practiced the same gay and lesbian relationships as is practiced now in our culture; and what God says about this. Our civilization is not the first civilization in history to become involved in gay and lesbianism. God lends us over to a reprobate mind to do what ought not to be done. But His wrath will surely come for those who refuse to retain the knowledge of God and exchange the truth of God for a lie. Also, there should be laws protecting heterosexuals against homosexual harassment too. Homosexuals and Lesbians are not innocent when it comes to harassing others and lying on others who are not like them. Gays and Lesbians make people more resentful of them when they try to make a pass or force themselves on a heterosexual. It makes the heterosexual more outspoken against their lifestyle and more resentful of them as a group. They need to learn to respect the sexuality of straight people.


janby   August 22nd, 2010 1:23 am ET

I have two gay siblings with great long term relationships. Neither one believe that Prop 8 should be overturned. They have been able to get the benefits they wanted without civil marriage. I respect and love them very much. But our family stand is that the federal courts nor federal government have not the right to change a state vote. In this country...the majority rules. Get over it.


JDate   August 22nd, 2010 1:26 am ET

I would like to comment about the Dr Laura thing....I would like to know what is so hurtful about calling a black person a negro. When I was growing up, we were taught that it was ok to say negro but never say neger.................I need to understand this. Is it considered a slang word??? What is it that is so bad??? Is it like calling a Jewish person a Jew?? I am serious, I want to understand this...thank you..J


JohnS   August 22nd, 2010 1:59 am ET

This debate about gay marriage is so foolish. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Marriage is the oldest institution in history. The old Greek(or Roman empire I believe was very liberal when it came to homosexual relations-no legalized marriage there. Bottom line you cannot change what God has established since the beggining of time Adam and Eve, not Adam and Adam.

Now if you want the legalized benefits of being married, lets sit down and come up with a term for that with all the rights there within, say "life partnership" and new titles for males/females who commit to that. Husband and Husband, Wife and Wife, How do gays classify themselves in marriage anyway, Have not heard a debate about that, maybe because it sounds foolish. Don't confuse the future of what traditional marriage is!

I'm sick of people trying to compare this with the civil rights of blacks. The constitution said that all men were created equal, But society did not want to recognize blacks as human so they would not have the same rights as white. Black have always been human right? So the civil rights was to legally enforce something that always was. Gays currently have all the same rights because they are human, except the legal benefits of marriage, which I provided a solution to in the prior paragraph.

Once again, Traditional Marriage is older than the Constitution. The Founding Fathers were God-fearing men. I would say they never imagined traditional marriage would even be debatable. It's not. You cannot change the meaning. You cannot change the truth for a lie.


Lucy   August 22nd, 2010 2:07 am ET

I am confused and disgusted by my American friends on this gay-marriage issue as a Canadian. I wonder where it will end. If religious and gay rights are upheld upon all else at stake can a brother marry his sister or a son his mother or a man and his dog simply because they are in love? There have to be some moral borders. I cannot believe I am living in such a morally depraved society. Even the animals in my back yard have it figured out. As far as race is concerned as a Caucasion I love my black brothers and sisters all over the US and Canada regardless of their political persuasion.

What is going on?


Karen Anderson   August 22nd, 2010 2:19 am ET

I am writing about the Dr. Laura issue. I read the transcript and it was very clear that Dr. Laura did not give "Jade" an opportunity to explain "in detail" the comments that were said by neighbor(s) or family member(s). This was the issue affecting Jade; she stated she was resenting her husband for his lack of support. Dr. Laura NEVER gave her the platform to "explain" more than one comment made to her by a neighbor. Dr. Laura interrupted her, was RUDE by labeling her with character flaws stating she was too hypersensitive, had a chip on her shoulder and lacked sense of humor. I was angry upon reading the transcript, as well. Dr. Laura was insensitive to caller by not trying to help her. I am Caucasian, and like Jade I used to listen to Dr. Laura while driving or during my lunch hour, however, I stopped listening to her program because I found her to be impatient with callers, rude and dominated the conversation (while losing track of the caller's reason for needing advice). Dr. Laura used the "N" word in a context that was "not racist." It was not necessary to keep saying the word; Dr. Laura was getting angry and used the word out of frustration. This in no way excuses her behavior toward the caller. Dr. Laura turned the call into a "race issue," not caller. Dr. Laura was in the wrong and should apologize to Jade for HER insensitive behavior toward a woman who called to ask advice. Dr. Laura's points made regarding the confusion about Black people using the “N” word were correct, but irrelevant to Jade's reason for calling. I also agree with Jade in that I do not believe Dr. Laura's "apology" was genuine...but more of what "is expected of her" in view of her position. She could have made a point to contact Jade and share her apology on a more personal level. I outgrew Dr. Laura years ago because of her ability to become cold and rude to callers.


Adam   August 22nd, 2010 3:29 am ET

For a black person to say that a white person using the N word is racist, but that a black person can use the same word without it being offensive, is a racist themselves.
For one race to accept the use of a word to describe themselves, and then be offended by others using the same word, is pure discrimination. On their part.
Its either an acceptable word or not, no matter who says it. That is true equality.
And for the record, I'm white, and I don't like the word at all, no matter who uses it.


Albert   August 22nd, 2010 3:34 am ET

The "n" word should never be used by anyone. Gay marriage should be legal ever where. Its about love, no matter what sexual orientation you are. Bigots who tout that they are "defending traditional marriage" are really forcing their cynical ploy to legitimize their anti-gay agenda and force discrimination into our constitution to make their bigotry the Law of the Land. I did not choose to be gay. God created me gay whether anyone likes it or not and no one nor any thing will ever change that.


caroline   August 22nd, 2010 3:36 am ET

I grew up in the carribbean and was never exposed to any of this behavior until i moved to the united states. i've lived here twenty-eight years and still find this kind of behavior by people of any race apalling.
tThe N word should never be used by any race including blacks and the dropped slacks and all of this outlandish way of dressing is outrageous. As human beings we need to project ourselves in a more dignified manner and be always aware that our children are watching and listening and taking their cue from us as to how to resolve respond in situations they might find themselves. (please use an anonymous name for me , choose one)


Edwin Morel   August 22nd, 2010 3:41 am ET

Edwin Morel
 
August 22nd, 2010 1:20 am ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
On the traditional marriage...vs Gays
A matter of new language and science over 2000 yrs.
There is no word for gay in the Bible
there are 360 references on how to treat your spouse
5 or 7 related to men treating another man as a woman
when this was written it was tradition for the Greeks especially to rape another strange man that enters a village, or after killing an enemy, to disgrace them. of course that was forbidden...but actual consenting adults living together is not identified, and no words to identify that.
Now we know throughout the plant and animal kingdom , there are representatives of , gays, lesbiens and transexualts, and we identify it there. Now we have terms for it. We now identify that some men and women are born with the opposite gender development in the brain and DNA...also some are born with both gender gentility fully developed..who in the Bible does it say they marry? We need to stop calling heretics and abusing those who now know the earth is not flat outside of the holy land, but round, and the sun does not rotate around the sun, but the sun is now the center of our orbit???? new terms new laws new identities...Check the statistics on abused kids from families gay or heterosexual marriages...in what family would these kids be better off in? Many hetero marriages are so because one or more partners may not be actualizing themselves and resent their spouses. a product of our society forcing gays to be heterosexual...a downfall of education. and outdated traditions. Gays in the military? ask soldiers from WWII and Vietnam..how many lives were saved by gay medics????? the whole thing our culture is attempting to hold on to is archaic traditions, and lack of even acknowledging modern science and vocabulary. We have words for it now and have identified that it is here.. We are not living in 2000 yr ago times. We need to catch up to our vocabulary and science. Religion did not conflict with our catching up but it does strongly identify how to treat your spouses...Eddy
Another point, do you want a gay person to marry your son or daughter? If you make it so they can not freely admit their sexual orientation you are forcing them to try to be heterosexual. It does not work and ends up no only in divorce, and a miserable marriage, but procreating more gay children.
Many fear the gays are recruiting straight people to be gay, but in truth the fundamentalist viewpoint is recruiting by forcing gays to marry their kids. Where is logic and our education system is not educating us to overcome these problems.


Robert   August 22nd, 2010 3:44 am ET

Should gay folks be allowed to be get legally married?

Absolutely! I can think of no good reason they should not be as miserable as of the married couples.

I do hope they can do better with the 'wonderful' record that the straight folks have run up ...over half now divorce and turn over their partners for a newer model....


Kamalei   August 22nd, 2010 3:52 am ET

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal? NO


ChristopherSmith   August 22nd, 2010 3:53 am ET

To use the Bible as a weapon is wrong, you can call yourself a Christian, but only use the Bible in the way you want? No, you can not. The Bible says "Do unto others...", not "Only treat people just like you equal". God is love, he doesn't hate. Only God can judge anyway. Legalizing gay marriage will not make the world stop turning or make it end. Gays should have the same rights as Straights. Whose to say this isn't all God's plan? The Bible was written by man not God.

Legalize Gay Marriage!


John   August 22nd, 2010 3:54 am ET

Why dont you ask some of the people opposed to same sex marriage would they accord the exact same right to civil unions as marriage ?

The same sex marriages we are talking about are not religious marriages but one recognised by the state so why are religious groups even involved ?

Their doctrine and dogma is protected under the us constitution

The only thing i can think of is that these groups want to invade couples who have built a life together and take whatever wealth money and belongings these couples have worked to accumulate.

It has happenned when families of the deceased have swooped into the surviving partners home and kicked them out or took belongings. Their is also the issue of pensions and life insurance monies etc

A civil right should not be determined by religious groups with their own agenda. This is a civil marriage so a couple can enjoy the protection and the rights of a hetero couple.


A Stack   August 22nd, 2010 3:58 am ET

Yes gay marriage should be legal. If two people who love each other should have the same right to marry. My gay friends feel that they are treated like second class people. They should have the same right to marry and raise their children. This isn't about ones faith its about what is right. Equal protection under the law. If the high court rules against gay marriage they are not following the law. Gay marriage does not hurt me or anyone else.


Renee   August 22nd, 2010 4:01 am ET

Larry, what will people say when the group of people that sex animal want to come out? Will they have rights too? Will they teach that to our children in school too? Same sex marriage will cause a paradox in the way the world is today. If God intended same sex to marry then they would be able to produce children on their own. When a man can have a baby or a two women can have a baby, then I will shut up and sit down!


alma   August 22nd, 2010 4:03 am ET

Gay marriage should not be legal. I always talk to my children about values and morals. I would not like them to think that homosexuality is okay. I have nothing against homosexuals, lesbians, etc. but making it seem like it's a natural thing; not okay.


WERXTC   August 22nd, 2010 4:12 am ET

ok let me weigh in on this equal rights sounds good and all but its' a personal choice when one talks about being married with that being said my sister is gay & living that lifestyle & often she uses the phrase "a man like me " talking about herself there inlies the problem some one in the relationship has to play the male role & someone has to play the female role simply because that is how we are designed so to speak now i say let them get married & when they go to sign the marraige license the same one that straight people sign remember now everyone wants to be treated equally now someone has to sign where the man signs & once that is put in place now whatever the fallout may be evryone just has to deal with that we all know what the bible says about it but does that really matter when we have taken prayer out of schools chestizing away from parents the ten commandments away from the courthouse so the way i see it most of us americans can't have it both ways on the one hand remove god from our daily lives altogether for political sake then turn around & want to use what we believe God to have wanted to keep someone else in line


DebiJ   August 22nd, 2010 4:18 am ET

On the gay marriage issue: the response that marriage is "between a man and a woman" is rediculous. The divorce rate has skyrocketed, and those that aren't divorced are stepping out. We heterosexuals have totally screwed this up and made the "man and woman" a non-issue.

The truth is you can't help who you fall in love with. I DO believe it is a civil rights issue. Just today a child here in Texas was denied admission to a parochial school because they discovered she had same-sex parents. Do they think that she'll bring "gay cooties" to class and infect the rest of the class?! The child is the one who paid for this bigoted narrow-mindedness.

I see no ill-effects of same-sex marriage. They should have the same benefits and rights as hetero couples have (and have abused). In addition, gay couples should be allowed to adopt. There are so many children in foster care who would give anything to have a forever home, it doesn't matter. There are many funtional single-parent households (I was one), just because you don't have a bonafide male or female in the home is not the issue. Someone who loves you is.


Alma   August 22nd, 2010 4:20 am ET

I do not support same sex marriage. The foundation of a home starts with a man and a woman. How do we explain to our children why Jake has Bob and Steve as parents. Not every family is okay with gay marriage.


Sloan   August 22nd, 2010 4:24 am ET

Oh for pity’s sake, give gay marriage to gay people already! Marriage is a legal contract and a social institution. Heterosexuals dumped all over that institution a long time ago, and if it was so sacred then no one should have been allowed to divorce or remarry –period. It is hypocritical of people to include themselves in that privileged group while denying access to others, and somehow consider that fair or equitable treatment. Maintaining such a privilege is immoral, and speaks to our base instincts to remain living in prejudice that is self-serving.


DebiJ   August 22nd, 2010 4:25 am ET

In response to B. Ellison's post. I appreciate your opinion and knowledge of the Bible, but you do realize that it was written by men and most books were written at least 60 years after Jesus died. They even took Mary Magdeline out of the picture. Men wanted control and I'm confident they wrote it not as the true word of God, but with whatever would help them keep control of this new Christian religion.

You know religion has been the cause of so much war and persecustion that you really need to look at the Bible as perhaps a guidebook, not divine knowlege. Live by the 10 Commandments and take the rest as a suggestion. I've read the Bible, I have both a Hebrew and Catholic Bible and the Khoran. All of these religions believe in the same God, but they can't get along. I just don't get it.


Lucas Randall Española NM USA   August 22nd, 2010 4:34 am ET

On the subject I live twenty miles north of santa fe nm which has a larger population or homosexuals and I am heterosexual but have no problem with homosexuals. I also believe gays couples who wish to adopt children and would be a loving supportive family to a child who is available for adoption would be better than a child not be adopted and have no family at all. But in my opinion a heterosexual couple who will also be loving and supportive could be better for childs upbringing being that is social norm and also would save child from being picked on in school for having gay adopted parents. I in my opinion think a child can be adopted by gay couple annd live great life but would prefer that they give gays right to adopt everywhere also I think single people who can be able and qualified to adopt be given chance as well. In any case all should be interviewed and given random home checkins prior to adopting to safe guard from predators whether heterosexual, homosexual or a single person. On the subject of gay marriage is totally differmnt what mr pragen or can't remember the gentle mans name that was on tonight 8/21/2010 was trying to say and what I believe is that gays should be able to join legally as if they where married and given same rights as married people but this is not marriage. Marriage is a sacred union of man &woman since beginning of time and should stay that way. Gays should be able to have same rights as married heterosexual couples but this union between two homosexuals is different and there fore be named different as time and society progresses I don't see why gays cannot be satisfied with just getting the same rights in a gay union as a staraight couple would get but name it something different as in civil union or whatever. Just leave marriage alone marriage since beginning of time and is defined as between man and woman. Years back websters added bling referring to jewelry, etc why can gays not be satisfiedwith new term that would be same in the sense of all legalissues and all other rights as a straight mariage but be called something different because it is something new therefore merits a new term. I do not care what it is but I agree the gay couple who withto or already are legally in acivil union or whatever be givbin same rights but call it something other than marriagebecause marriage is between man& womanperiod don't agree look in dictionary just leave marriage alone. What will they want next to change definition of stop to mean go marriage is marriage a man and woman gays who wish to unite in some sort of union go ahead and I hope u get same rights but call it something new because it is and leave real marriage alone. I am not against gays in anyway I am straight but have no problem with gay people and know several who agree why not just come up withnew term . Good luck and don't take offensethink about it all the bickering needs to stop but leave marriage alone get same rights new word


E-NewOrleans   August 22nd, 2010 4:36 am ET

When it comes down to marriage it should only be between a MAN and a WOMAN. And i'm sure the parents of those people feel the same way because if the parents hadn't united what would you have been then?..... non-exsistant. You wouldn't have a choice at all. I know for a fact those parents didn't teach their child that its okay to like a boy if your a boy,or its okay to like a girl if your a girl. It's just wrong you already have the right to be gay why intrude on the rights to marry? Do you think that if you get married it will be pleasing to God because your married? LOL. NO, it still wrong, at the start of it all God made EVE for ADAM and I see it no other way. And it hurts me to my heart to see that you want rights to adopt children too?. Like seriously are you kidding? Is Life a joke to you?Do you think if you get married and have kids you'd be normal? To be gay thats your bag and you should have left it in the closet because none of this would be if you were still ashamed of being wrong about you sexuality. I stand #1 in opposing gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. Its sick and to add kids to the picture its perverted and thats just not how life should be imagined for the generations to come.


hans   August 22nd, 2010 5:10 am ET

yes yes yes. I absolutely, unequivocably think Gay marriage should be legalized. yep. get RID of DOMA and DADT too. ASAP. And build the Mosque too.


hans   August 22nd, 2010 5:17 am ET

may i make this point/ we already have enough people in the owrld. probably the LASt thing we NEED or want is MORE people, when we are already suffering severe eefects of crowding and overconsumption – laready we see Tuna and Salmon endangered, climate change.. we struggle to find more places to put our garbage.. houses now are built five fett away form one another – the highways and streets are fileld with cars and trafic jams – we;re runnign out of resources – and yet people STILL want to argue that we somehow need to "prtect" the so called "insittution" of Marriage?!!? For WHAT!? We ahve too MANY epopel already! the LAST thign anyone needs to be doing is mating an d procreating and making Even MORE people.. we can't handle what we have here already. try eliminating war and poverty first.


Annas   August 22nd, 2010 5:19 am ET

Dr Laura may be claiming that she felt bad after her comment on the radio, but from what she again said in this interview that she feel her right was disturbed by people saying she erred by her use of the N word means that she is not repentant on the use of that word. She believes that it is her right to use the word. she does not deserve to be a public icon. She is a white supremacist and is evil.


stella10   August 22nd, 2010 5:44 am ET

A comment on Dr. Laura, I enjoyed her radio talk shows and she is I believe a good person and is intending to help in her way, however to use the "N-word" was very, "super"- unintelligent of her and I am surprised at her, after having a formal education, even in NYC at Columbia Univ. that her vocabulary couldn't be more eloquent, more respectful in a spontaneous forum, her radio talk show. I think it is good that she step down and let someone else, more capable, give advice to persons requesting it and she can continue to write where she can take the time to think about the words she chooses. Yes, freedom of speech should be a right, however it should be a given to show dignity to others. As teenagers say, "it is so yesterday" and the "N-word" is so yesterday and should stay there.


Chrissi   August 22nd, 2010 5:55 am ET

Separation of Church and State is a founding principle of this country. ALL MARRIAGE must be a civil issue and keep the discriminatory "churches of hate out of it. Or take ALL civil privileges out of it !!!!


Misslion   August 22nd, 2010 5:57 am ET

IF this go through, they are talking about the rights, then lets say there are murderes, rapists, etc who ALSO want their rights, what to do? Will we also give them the right to do whatever they want to do?????


David P   August 22nd, 2010 6:00 am ET

My church might not want to recognize a marriage but my state has to.


Muthu Umoneke   August 22nd, 2010 6:03 am ET

America should realise that GOD has blessed your country for a good reason, to help other nations on the planet. Do not think this is automatic because God could have given the reponsibility to another country. Why did your currency written in God we Trust? Do you people of today know who God is? God blessed the first marriage in the garden of Eden between Adam the man and Eve the woman. IT IS EVIL to have same sex marriage. Do you fear and obey the constitution that man has come up with or the GOD who say you Trust. The judiciary must be careful because if they rule behind their opinion then America is missing the point and depriving yourself from the blessings from God and stop using the bible or quoran in the court room because none of these sacred books says God allows same sex marriage. Again this illegal before God and violation of Gods' Law which supreme above the laws of the land therefore it is a SIN.


carol   August 22nd, 2010 6:03 am ET

If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay. (L,TG, etc.)
However, if you are gay, you should be able to get legally married.
Gay people should be able to be legally married in all of the United States. They should have the same rights as married hetero people, for example, hospital visitation for legal spouses; legal matters such as inheritance and adoption; beneficiary insurance matters; etc.
So I don't see what the ruckus is all about. God made all of us.
If He didn't like gay people, then He wouldn't making them.


Teddy   August 22nd, 2010 6:04 am ET

If same sex marriage is legal, should people be allowed to married to more than one people?

I think same sex marriage shouldn't be legal because it is not accepted by most culture around the world.

The freedom for the minority group of same sex lovers to live together should be resolved in other ways.


true native`   August 22nd, 2010 6:06 am ET

its funny how blacks and white are fighting over words that really mean little. Not only that ,but fighting over a land that neither of them have ever had any right to claim or say they own. If you dont like the way its going in North American then leave. Its that simple!


Damon   August 22nd, 2010 6:16 am ET

To begin, I am a supporter of gay marriage.

That being said, I wonder how supporters of gay marriage feel about under age marriage. My point being that if a 16 and 17 year old couple wanted to marry, this would be considered illegal.

If the argument for gay marriage stands only on the feet of the premise of all people being created equal, I think that we are able to find other instances, that are supported by most Americans, that seemingly contradict this premise.

This makes me think about the selective application of first amendment and how social morality helps to select the battles that we fight on the political landscape.


Christian   August 22nd, 2010 6:49 am ET

Concerning Dr. Laura's use of the "N" word...or any other group using among themselves the names that, in the mouths of non-members considered derogatory, I support her view/explanation completely. As a Gay White Male, I use the "F" word with friends, whatever their personal situation...and they may use it with me. IF the word is used by anyone in a negative or hateful way, I will obviously be offended. You can't "neutralize" an insult by ignoring or even trying to lock it in a closet. If everyone/anyone can use it in good faith, it loses its bite.

Concerning same-sex marriages: Recognizing a couple's equality before the Constitution (remember that many of the Founding Fathers were slave owners...including Thos. Jefferson, who freed his black "mistress" and their child only in his will, AFTER his death) is NOT just limited to race or religion. I'd rather have 2 loving, well-adjusted gays or lesbians raising a child than a disfunctional hetero couple where the macho male beats his wife and kids or lapses into even worse abuse (i.e. incest, etc.).
****I'd infinitely prefer "Jenny has 2 loving mommies/daddies" to "Jenny has a mommy (probably alcoholic–and perhaps hitting on her tennis coach, pool boy, etc.), a daddy (frequently a serial cheater) and daddy's girlfriend (or boyfriend–kids are NOT that dumb!).
****Why are heteros so terrified by this question (it is not "catching"–it may, however, simply be repressed/latent); why don't they concentrate on remaining faithful to their spouse and making their marriage vows work (or cut the losses and get a divorce!!!). WHY DON'T THEY CONCENTRATE ON ADULTERERS IN THEIR OWN RANKS (a genuine threat to the institution of marriage–and much more real temptation) RATHER THAN SOME HYPOTHETICAL THREAT TO THE "OZZIE AND HARRIET" IDEA THEY HAVE OF "MARRIAGE". And why do the loudest critics often turn out to be the offenders: cf. Southern politicians, Fundamentalist pastors–not to mention Roman Catholic "celibate" priests (vows again!).
****And if you're going to preach Abstinence, that does NOT dispense you from giving your kids a dispassionate explanation of Prevention (it OBLIGES you to do so–sufficient examples in the press of failed attempts).
****Why does "Right to Life" so often come from the frothing mouths of rifle-toting, "hang 'em high" pro-Death Penalty "God Is On My Side" "people" (quotation marks obligatory!).
HYPOCRISY-FEAR-RACISM-BIAS. Try practicing what you preach!!!


lostemperor   August 22nd, 2010 6:54 am ET

I am against same sex marriage.
In fact I am against marriage.

Tis medieval institution causes so much cheating. It was made to deprive people of freedom. Set by the old catholic church who advocate celebacy themselves. That is even worse since it leads to abuse as we know.

If you love someone you don't need a piece of paper to upheld it. Nor do you need to be misarable if it goes wrong. Besides sex (moment) is something else than love (lasting). It is still better than tieing people up to each other by a wedding paper what leads to cheating, divorces and worse.

I don't think history will be ready to abandon mariage for some time to come. But then I am thinking ahead of myself🙂


Bob R., Lanham, Maryland   August 22nd, 2010 7:07 am ET

Prop 8 and gay/lesbian marriage are NOT civil rights issues. Gays/lesbians have the same right to marry just as "straights" do. That is, every gay has the right to marry almost any lesbian and vice versa. Hey people, there are boundaries to everything.

Apparently, one partner in each gay union somehow plays the role of husband and the other the wife. So perhaps gays/lesbians should pair up according to their husband/wife role but as male/female.


robert   August 22nd, 2010 7:17 am ET

Larry, why is it that when the gays get married, they call one a woman and the other a man. why not man,man or woman,woman since they do not believe in the Divine institution by God.


Colin Williams   August 22nd, 2010 9:54 am ET

I watched your programme today on same sex marriage with incredulity. Personally I have no objection to civil partnerships and I actually believe that any couple who live together and share resources whether father son, brother sister, sister sister, gay couple etc should all get the same tax breaks but marriage is reserved for the union of a man and a woman of marriageable age. However, what I really found distressing was the interpretation of equal opportunities. If sex should make no difference how about age? Where will it stop?

Regards,
Colin


Ted   August 22nd, 2010 10:04 am ET

Contrary to many blogs the marriage has nothing to do with the established religions, although they try to confiscate it.
People got married thousands of years ago, long before jewism, christianity or the islam ever was invented.
In our modern society it should be the privilege of the goverment to marry people and if they feel they also need the blessing of a priest, minister or rabbi, than they may enjoy that ceremony AFTER the civil marriage. We have a seraration of power and the churches should not have the power to do a legal marriage. They can do the toppings on the cake, but the state bakes the cake!!

On the origin of the word negro there is a long blog, that states the Huns used infected rats to spread the black pest in european towns.
What a hogwash, the Huns did their bloody wars CENTURIES before the pest decimated Europe.
A nonsense in style of a scientific assay.


D-NewOrleans   August 22nd, 2010 10:53 am ET

I feel like you all have forgotten about God and laws. He destroyed Solom and Gomar because of this same issue. And thats why there's a curse upon the United States. We need to put Jesus back in his rightful place, because we have taken Jesus out of everything. God created us all and in his law its for us to get married or burn, but it's still between a man and a woman. And we have the nerve to pledge one nation under God? God is not pleased with this foolishness. We are not one nation under God obviously. Yes he is a God of Love where is the love there's still racism killing discrimanation. Yes he is a rightful and just God but that dosen't mean twist his law around to the way you see fit. Right is right and Wrong is wrong.


Jean, Toronto   August 22nd, 2010 12:16 pm ET

@JDate:
It is not a matter of using the "N" word but it is the manner in which it was stated. As long as human beings are alive, this word will never go away. It does not have to be brought up. Granted, previously, negroes were referred to as such. However, there are those who utilize this word as an insult and a demeaning one towards this race. It would be better not to mention it and to bury it, if you know what I mean. Yet, there are those of the other race who will not allow it to die as Dr. Laura. She did much harm to the lady-caller and to the African, black race, not only in the US but all over the world.
It was the so-called white man who named them as such when they went to Africa and kidnapped them for money and brought them to different parts of the world as in the US and the Caribbean islands against their will. They did not name themselves. They were Africans with tribes. Each tribe has a name and this is the manner in which they called themselves, belonging to a tribe.
The tone of voice she depicted, just what this woman, Dr. Laura meant. Therefore, the saying: "It is not what you say but how you say it."
Did you not hear Dr. Laura's words repeated over and over again as on CNN? Surely, you should comprehend what she meant by consistently repeating the "N" word and saying "Don't NAACP me". She was downright insulting, rude and out of place. Just whom that woman think she is? She placed herself on a high horse and pedestal, better and of a superior race than the lady-caller. People should not speak to others in such a manner. Dr. Laura did not communicate with the lady in a respectable manner. She deserved to lose her job at that Radio Station.
No one took away her rights to speak according to the Amendment. Those who are in certain positions and who communicate and offer advice to callers/clients/customers should be careful what they say. It is not a right to insult people and their race. Dr. Laura should place herself in the lady-caller's position as each one of us should do.
She depicted just who and what she is and what type of mentality she possesses towards those who wish to marry the so-called white race and have married them. Both races are human beings, heterosexual people and have a right to get married. People should not insult them because they chose to get married to another race.
For those who believe in God, He created us all in His own image and likeness. He expects that each one of us will accord each other their due moral rights and dignity. This, too, should be the Law of the land.
When we stand before God for our eternal judgment, He will not ask us if we are black or white. He will ask us how well we regarded each other, how much we loved and cared for and helped each other. If we live accordingly and pass this test, this is the condition for obtaining eternal salvation in God's Eternal Kingdom of Bliss. Our conscience will determine where our souls end up in eternity.
I am of a mixed race from the West Indies. I obviously did not have a choice in this and I am proud of who I am. On my mother's side, so-called white from France and on my father's side, so-called negro (black) from Africa.
Since I was born, in childhood to adulthood and now residing in Canada, I have relatives and friends who are of all colors and also friends of all nationalities as well. While each of us possess our own individual characteristic traits, as God ordained it should be, we do not see the difference in pigmentation. We do not speak about "negroes" because we have no reason to speak about it and no needs to bring it up.
There may be times that specifically when something of this nature occurs, we will discuss it but more with shock and abhorrent that, in this day and age, there are still some people who just cannot live at peace with others and will not allow them to live at peace because of specifically their race and color.
I refer to myself as an international person🙂
My parents and more specifically my father, the head and breadwinner of the household, religious, disciplined and strict ones, nurtured their children to respect everyone in general, to speak courteously to them, the rich, the poor, whatever their status, nationality and creed. I can live peacefully with every nationality, race, color or creed and if they will allow me to live in peace.
They were fair and just people who also taught us to speak up for the truth and what is correct to do and say and morally at that.
Ever since the Africans were brought over to the US as slaves, they encountered major problems. One of it is discrimination on the basis of their race and color.
Their human rights and dignity were taken away, actually stolen away from them. They were subject "to their so-called masters" and were ill-treated, to the point of some of them being murdered.
They were regarded as people who did not belong to the American society and had no right to be there, although they did not voluntarily migrate to the US. They experienced much hardship. If one is to think of this atrocity, they could get bitter. Dr. Laura brought it up and this feeling, again. There are those who just want to forget it but there are those like Dr. Laura who will not allow others to forget it.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's words will always resonate forever, he who paid a dear price of his earthly life for desegregation and peacefully: "People should not be judged by the color of their skin (race) but by the contents of their character."
The entire world should adopt this, once and for all. This is the exact manner in which my parents nurtured their children. If we accord people their due moral rights and dignity and respect them and allow them to live in peace, we, too, will live in peace for, as the saying goes: "What goes around comes around" in time. We are the beneficiaries of our very own actions. Our earthly happiness depends on it.
There is the Catholic Christian saying, taken from my mother's Precious Blood of Jesus Prayer Book:

"I shall pass through this world but once. If therefore, there be any good thing I can do, or any kindness I can show to any fellow-creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer it nor neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again."

As human beings, this is our obligation to each other with no exception. The world would be a better and happier place to live in if everyone adopted it and practiced it. This is what it means to genuinely help the planet and people of the planet, wherever we may reside.


jerry   August 22nd, 2010 12:47 pm ET

CNN you amaze me4 during the gulf oil spill you were hammering bp over the head saying that there web site only showed comments that are appealing to them,or the ones that they liked.CNN you are the same only showing coments that are pleasing to you,and yet you say that you are fair.fair only if the comment doesnt offend anybody


Paul   August 22nd, 2010 12:53 pm ET

I don't think Dr. Laura did anything wrong by useing the N-WORD.I hear "BLACK PEOPLE" useing the N-WORD all over tv and radio.If it is so wrong to use the N-WORD why is"Black PEOPLE"aloud to use it on National tvand the radio. It should be band for every race to stop useing the N-WORD on tv and the radio and then maybe we would stop having these problems.


To judge and not to judge   August 22nd, 2010 8:17 pm ET

Interesting Show..

When the universe was made man was made with a penis to mate a woman with a Virgina. Not another man and vise verse. It's as simple as that. No body forces their religious views on the other. We start accepting something that was NOT meant to be/ Now I have known some people that are as we call Gay Men/Woman and they are nice people some of them. Judgment is a terrible thing and we reserve that for the high power. But making something that was not meant to be – to be is morally wrong. The father upstairs always had something about it as written in the white book.. That means he will hold accountable judges and the individuals who don't keep his Commandments. I have no idea but guess it probably true that some people are born with pre dispositions where they we sup post to be another sex. Maybe because of pollution and things of that nature.

The thing with these laws is what if it's accepted somewhere and not another state. Like your drivers license is in every state. So say your married and travel to another state where it is not accepted. What! Then your not married while there..

Best of luck on the issue to all parties. I'm not judging. I'm not the judge. The creator is.

Not the judge


JDate   August 23rd, 2010 3:26 am ET

@jean Toronto Well said. Thank you for taking the time to post your comment in response to my question regarding the "N-word". I do agree with you...It is not so much the word, but how it is used...I think that we as a people concentrate way too much on a persons race. Just for the record, I am white (Portuguese) and am married to a non white.......We all may have our cultural difference & possibly skin color & facial features differences, but we are all human and want the same things, to be treated with respect. We are not here on this earth to judge one another but to learn to accept and to learn from one another...............thank you again Jean Toronto...peace be with you and with all of us...


Laura   August 23rd, 2010 5:01 am ET

Don't act like an "N" and you won't be seen as an "N"


Michael Bonnell   August 23rd, 2010 8:25 am ET

I do believe same sex marriage should be legal. I dont understand how that us gay people living in the United states where we are suppose to be free and equal but wait we cant get married like any guy and girl couple can. So what happen to equality for everyone?


Back2Latifa   August 23rd, 2010 9:17 am ET

Hi Larry,

In my opinion gay marraiges should be legal. I am a christian and I believe that gay marraiges are not associated with the marital union described in the bible. For a long time we have been busy trying to seperate religion from judicial law so that non-believers can enjoy the same privliges and practices introduced in the bible without acknowleging God as their heavenly father.

Understand the difference between a civil matrimony and a religious one, they are not the same and therefore christians should not be concerned, specially since the seperation of the two was for this main reason. Antheists get married everyday while denouncing God, who says anything? Same sheep different clothing.

Life goes on.


Gerald Jolly   August 23rd, 2010 5:33 pm ET

AHHHHHHH! Folks dont be too upset.

Pretty soon Larry will be gone, and so with that so will

Kathy Griffin

Hopefully forever.


Rev.Jas Thomas   August 23rd, 2010 11:31 pm ET

whew!!!!!!!


James Winfree   August 24th, 2010 10:48 am ET

John 15:5 (Jesus Christ said Himself that He is The Vine and we are the branches being all connected too Him and each other in One!!!)
5 “Jesus said I Am The Vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.


Bob   August 24th, 2010 11:19 am ET

Call me a bigot or out of touch with this modern era but here is my stance.

1. I don't belittle Kathy Griffin and high profile lesbians who are strong proponents of fully recognizing and legalizing same sex marriage. That is their right to voice their opinion, join forces of advocacy and use whatever forum they can to promote their belief and seek victory on this issue

2. I do despise some gay men who are in the high profile news business but who chose to be closet gays using the excuse that "I keep my private life and my public life separate". That is a copout. If Ellen DeGeneres and Barney Frank can come out and remain successful and thrive, then why not persons that are probably employed by CNN.

3. Now, I personally am not a supporter of same sex marriage. I base this religious grounds. I believe in one God, the same God of the Christian, the Jew and the Muslim. The instructions/teaching in the Christian Bible, the Jewish Talmud and the Muslim Quran strongly points out that a sexual relationship between persons of the same sex is immoral and is a sin. If I truly believe in God's instructions and teachings through those sources then it is illogical for me to accept the present day logic and argument that it is ok.

4. God meant that there should be a joining between a man and a woman for the purpose of both love and procreation. If I were an agnostic or atheist I would be making my decision on other grounds, but I am not.

5. When the people of California spoke with their vote on Proposition 8 they were countered a California court's opinion highly influenced by the gay rights advocates. Now a stay preventing implementation of gay marriages in California until resolution of this issue is settled by a higher court, we will be in limbo until it finally reaches the Supreme Court. With a 5-4 conservative majority on the supreme court, the chances of upholding the California court decision is not good.

6. The best proponents of same sex marriage have is try and wait out the current justices and hope that President Obama has another chance to bring a moderate or liberal to the court before 2012. I honestly believe he will not win reelection in 2012.


Montana   August 24th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

I am so happy that the ugly (inside and out) crazy old gym teacher reaped what she had sowed. She could have gotten her argument across by saying “N word” and not using the word and by not saying "don't NAACP me" but like Michael Richards AKA “Cosmo Kramer”,she ends up the the trash heap of history, a history of her own making. I am so happy that the free market AKA sponsors started to pull their ads (I guess they were exercising their free speach) and she finally realized that she was just another “run of the mill gabby” and her days were numbered. She realized that she was not as smart as she thought she was, finally!

Palin was the one who got bent over the use of the word "Retard", Palin also said that the people have the right to build the Mosque in NY, but out of respect for the 9/11 families they shouldn't, but I guess this same standard is not applicable to Laura Schlessinger. Do you see the hypocrisy? The problem with Palin is the same when she mistakenly referred to Ronald Reagan Eureka College, being in California and we all know its in Illinois, same thing, she does not fact check anything she is going to say. She is soooo Palin!


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