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August 3, 2010

ICYMI – Is Lindsay Lohan on the path to recovery?

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Michele   August 3rd, 2010 12:26 pm ET

Just a younger female verion of Michael Jackson and Elvis..


Ted   August 3rd, 2010 12:35 pm ET

Take away the pound of makeup, the expensive clothing, what do you have?
An average young woman the likes you can see by the dozen on any major street.
So what is this great excitment about Logan?


Bram   August 3rd, 2010 12:37 pm ET

WHO CARES??????? I'm sooooo sick and tired of reading about these overpaid, under-talented idiots.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!

Bram


te6105   August 3rd, 2010 1:24 pm ET

If I had her dad (and mom), I'd do drugs, too!


alex peterson   August 3rd, 2010 1:39 pm ET

she is still detoxing
recovery hasn't even begun yet and won't for a few months
she needs a year in rehab to start recovery
3 months just detoxes her


mark nyc   August 3rd, 2010 1:45 pm ET

oh larry. must you really talk about this beef drape bandit?


Diane G. Persson   August 3rd, 2010 2:00 pm ET

The problem with most of the so-called "stars" lies with their inept parents. What could anyone expect????


Rose   August 3rd, 2010 2:04 pm ET

One DUI was not enough. Lohan was arrested for a second DUI. Weeks later she refused a sobriety test. Her blood alcohol level was found to be above the legal limit – charge with felonies of possession of cocaine, DUI and driving with a suspended license. Lohan did not appear for a hearing in court. She was later found to be in violation of her probation and sentenced to jail.

This is quite serious. While the tabloids chase her moves for inane photos, she is criminally responsible and could have easily killed someone while repeatedly driving drunk.

Lohan catered to the tabloids by showing up to court wearing plunging necklines, exaggerated eye lashes and freshly injected duck-lips. She appeared shocked at being penalized for breaking the law. There is obviously a problem here. Lohan should succeed with her rehabilitation – for her own sake. The media should leave her alone in the process. DUI is responsible for many, many innocent deaths. It should be treated seriously and not glamorized as a "celebrity story".


CHUMPA   August 3rd, 2010 2:08 pm ET

i dont care about her life and what she dose with it .I don't even remember a good movie with her in it. I do care that its on tv, news all THE TIME. please people dont read or watch this girl so she goes away. And maybe her problems will go away­čÖé


Darcy   August 3rd, 2010 2:39 pm ET

Please...stop the insanity.....if this young woman needs rehab..then that's where she should be...I DO NOT need to know every detail of her life. I know there are decent celebs but why do we constantly have to hear about the ones who have problems. I have had enough of Lindsay Lohan. Mel Gibson., Charlie Sheen etc.!!!!!!!! I guess Larry King...you don't care because soon you won't be the host..it will be someone else's problem to try to make this show reputable again!


Sam   August 3rd, 2010 3:15 pm ET

She should be denied permission to call the papparazzi every time she goes out for Starbucks, shopping, whatever, so that they can take her pictures and keep her in the news. That would end the media glare and force her to rely on her talent (?).


Gerald Jolly   August 3rd, 2010 3:17 pm ET

I only hope that she was locked up long enough so that the authorities could clear up her serious STD problem


bngrace   August 3rd, 2010 3:27 pm ET

Is our children learning?


ranyahdawn   August 3rd, 2010 3:58 pm ET

Enough about LiLo please. She's just a troubled young woman who needs to get a hold of her life. All this attention just makes her rich about her problems and makes things worse. She's just another Britney in the works, with a lot less talent. The public doesn't need to know every dreary detail of her problems.


Jen   August 3rd, 2010 4:39 pm ET

Dear Mr. King and the rest who will read,

I am the mother of an addict. She is 17 and today in her 5th round of treatment. She has attended both in-patient residential and out-patient, the latter is where she learned to take hard drugs to hide her alcoholism.

The longest stint was for eight-months in a combination mental health/chemical addiction center. When she came out she was working hard on a new life, following the rules and getting straight A's. She was also lying to us all, to herself, drinking almost daily and in a tailspin.

That being said, I"m following this girl's struggle because I get it. I saw real trouble when she used the young girl as her new moniker....didn't anyone notice she is crying for help? Since she's been using, she has the emotions of a young teen at best – walking in a young twenty-something body with responsibilities. You stop emotionally growing when you take drugs.

When you are close, you see the least. Her friends all know but they won't tell. Friends don't do that and its our job to teach them that it is what friends do. Is Heath Ledger's memory so far behind? They don't know how to combine, they just feel pain and numb. And until they get to the root of the problem, they continue to take.

For you who blame the parents, get a clue. They didn't put the pipe to their daughter's mouth or the drink. Its very hard to watch your child have a condition, any condition, and be helpless to do anything but support. This is their burden to bare for their entire lives. And our sorrow to watch if we must, but we cannot control, we did not cause it. We can only love.

We are a family that works hard and makes a decent living. We parents don't drink but an occasional wine with dinner. The hardest days of my life have been with a drunk teen in the back of my car calling the hospital or the police because I didn't know what to do. No one tells you how to manage a drunk child, its not in Dr. Spock. No one wants to discuss it either unless its happened to them.

The last time she came home drunk I called the police and sent her to detox. Had I known we had one she would have gone there earlier, but again, who knows these things? She says I put her there, I say it was her actions that did.

I write to say please ease up on Lindsay. She is but a girl. She is someone's daughter. She's getting help and the best out of this is that she teaches others about her struggle and she has a chance to make a real difference in her life. To the Lohans, I wish you well and inner peace. To Lindsay, I wish you courage and serenity.


julie   August 3rd, 2010 4:57 pm ET

I don't think is is on road to recovery yet, It was reported just yesterday that she still doesn't think she even has a problem, and, right before she went to jail she supposedly told Robert Shapiro the same thing. The very reason he wouldn't help her. She needs to realize she has a problem before she can get better.


Steve   August 3rd, 2010 5:05 pm ET

Yes we DO need EVERY detail about LiLo. If not for these details we might have to think about a generation that communicates in 140 characters about every thing BUT the real world they live in. Iraq, Afgahanistan, Gulf Oil Spill, economy, etc, etc etc. Keep it LiLo 24/7.


Chris   August 3rd, 2010 5:10 pm ET

Why do we can care about her – I can say I have never seen in anything. Why is some second rate Disney "star" news to the rest of us. Why is the US so obsessed all of these utterly worthless people, like Lohan and others of her trashy ilk.


Marissa   August 3rd, 2010 9:53 pm ET

Wasn't she in rehab twice before already? why should a 3rd time be any different? i haven't seen her in any movies recently, is she still even working? so where is she getting all her money for drugs from? maybe she'l run out of money so she won't be able to buy anymore drugs.


Grateful Steve   August 3rd, 2010 10:05 pm ET

Lohan's problem is simple.

She has a disease. The disease of addiction. Just like a diabetic, Lohan has a disease.

To treat a disease, you have to have self diagnosis–understand that you have the dsiease of addiction.

Rehab that teaches the disease concept. 12-Steps of Recovery. AA and NA meetings. A Sponsor. And, obviously, ABSTINENCE from all drugs and alcohol (alcohol is a drug).

Her fate if untreated: jails, institutions and death.


Luis B. Rosario   August 3rd, 2010 10:12 pm ET

Some drink for fun and some suffer from depression and they
try to drown their tribulations with liquor water. It is either drugs
or liquor. Either way it is a tough choice on the road to perdition.
"It is not easy when you are green." I'm glad that experts and doctors
are beginning to recognize and diagnose alcoholism and drug
addiction as disease.


Gerald Jolly   August 3rd, 2010 10:35 pm ET

@ Grateful Steve

If untreated.

WE HOPE.


Hugh in California   August 3rd, 2010 11:11 pm ET

Lots of passion here, but no compassion!


Russ   August 3rd, 2010 11:11 pm ET

the fame got to her head.

she allowed it to control her life and she truly believes she is above the rest of the world.

some day she will wake up possibly in her late 30's or maybe even 40's and see all those years she wasted and what she COULD have been instead of what she is.

by then it might just be too late for her!


Jim   August 4th, 2010 1:18 am ET

I don't care for Lohan, but I do hope she gets the help she needs. Unfortunately, I don't think this rehab stint will do the trick.


sarah   August 4th, 2010 6:28 am ET

she started out as a brilliant, charming flicker and may go down as
a smoking ember.
i don't think she has had any positive supervision and has had to wing it with no coping tools. too much...too fast... and no one laying down the rules,
i hope she pays attention to the help people are trying to give her.

don't critic....wish her the best.


JoeD   August 4th, 2010 6:58 am ET

She's last year's news. Please give us a more interesting topic to rant about.


Jack   August 4th, 2010 9:01 am ET

Wish her a sober and drug free life..It can happen !!! NA and AA have saved the lives of millions.BUT she must want it . We all must find hope..a desire to change either from a low or near death or a view of something better.BUT there must be a change. It was said this desease tells us that it not the drugs that are the problem its us.. true ..so its us who need to change...re-hab first ..then a new lifestyle. and friends who have been there and who are leading a sober life will help. Dosn`t always work but best thats out there. A belief in a Higher Power shure helps. oh by the way it took me 30 years but I now live a sober life. Hope it does not take her that long.


RB   August 4th, 2010 9:35 am ET

It's hard to say which is worse: Lindsay's condition, the media's insistence on tracking every little detail of her life and yet missing the point of their very existence, or all the commenters safe behind their monitors passing judgment and not having any idea what that young girl is REALLY going through.

One can't blame the commenters: they only know what's been told to them without first-hand knowledge or by investigating a "story" themselves. Laziness? Belief that what they hear or read is the truth? Lack of knowledge or understanding? Who can say...

The vast majority of the media outlets: they have no idea what real journalism is. They're scavengers, trying to pass off dead horses as food for thought and regurgitating crap. No wonder the media are so reviled. They perpetuate uselessness.

Lindsay's been in custody of one form or another this last time for, what, TWO WEEKS. She is NOT going to turn a new leaf and make everyone happy overnight. She doesn't get it herself; she's too deep into the disease and the lifestyle. It would be good for her if she disappeared from public life for a while and had time to heal and combat her disease. The girl has promise, but she needs time and support.


Ted   August 4th, 2010 9:38 am ET

@ Jen

Lohan has two louzy parents, she had no upbringing and cannot have a fair support from her family. Naturally this does not excuse her for doing all those wrongs.

Talking about your own problem, you may worked hard for the luxuries of life, but neglected your daughter. Did she come home from school to find an empty house? Was she controlled in her free time, where is she and what is she doing? Did the family have common times or everyone was busy with him- or herself? Why did you not see that she is taking drugs, the symptoms are onvious?
These are questions and no implications.

Look at you own life and discover what went wrong.
As far as Logan goes, she is a grown person who could make a choice and she made one. I have absolutly no sympathy for that brat, she got off easy, again!


Jen   August 4th, 2010 10:00 am ET

@Ted

I work at home and care deeply. Addicts are crafty at best. How dare you judge me or try to blame me – as if I haven't done it a million times, Al Anon and the addicts themselves will say, its not my fault.

Neglect? You dare!

How's this for an example: One year she went to an alternative school. I drove 40 miles to drop her off, went to work, picked her up and took her to treatment, afterwards to a meeting. Then home. 5 days a week. How many parents do you know who get to spend 2 hours uninterrupted with their teen? She found cocaine at treatment so she could drink and not slur. She found meth and heroin there too.

My fault? Yep, shame on me for taking her to one of Minnesota's best treatment centers. Shame on me for driving her as she was too young to have a license. Shame on me.

Symptoms? You're clueless and funny at best. She drinks. She hides and addicts are sneaks, liars and crafty little things.

She plays hockey, she gets A's, we go to family events, she participates. She lies, she drinks, she's back in treatment.

Ted – we need more teen programs and aftercare resources. I live in one of the highest regarded medical communities on the planet and yet the resources are thin. The new one that she's in now offers promise. The best we can do is give her the skillset to be able to say no when confronted with temptation – and the self confidence it takes to back up the decision when they give her crap.

@Grateful Steve...you're right...its a disease. Would I blame myself or my daughter...or her deadbeat dad? No, time to blame is over, its recovery time and to move on.


LilOleMe   August 4th, 2010 10:35 am ET

You can't get clean and sober unless you WANT to get clean and sober. You have to continue to work at it after you leave rehab – for the rest of your life. Most people don't want to do that.


Willie12345   August 4th, 2010 10:54 am ET

May be she and Charlie Sheen can get together and start their own rehab center. They both have lots of experience.


Mr. Speed   August 4th, 2010 12:00 pm ET

Look folks,

I'm sorry if this offends any of you but here is my two cents on the issue of addiction.

Addiciton is NOT a disease. YOU make a CHOICE to get high or drunk. YOU make a CHOICE to sleep around on your spouce.YOU make a CHOICE in all of these things that I mention above.

However, CANCER is NOT A CHOICE. DIABETES is NOT A CHOICE.
THESE ARE DISEASES PEOPLE!!!

Addiction comes from making stupid DECISIONS like putting that drink to your lips or that drug in your body.

When we quit sugar coating addiciton maybe those who need help will finally get it!!!


Rose   August 4th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

@ Jen

I wish all the best for your daughter's recovery and realize you have tried hard to deal with her problems. The issue I have with Lindsay Lohan is that she was DRIVING DRUNK and could have killed someone. I don't believe you mentioned your daughter was ever driving under the influence, too young to drive.

Lohan made a lot of money ($ millions) and had access to resources that others may not have. While money is not a cure-all, it does present advantages for access and treatment. She is not "just a girl". She is 24 years old – many at this age are working on their second degrees, have a job, raising young families, running their homes. Lohan was old enough to be jet-setting and partying in Europe instead of appearing in court recently.

I, along with others, have a serious concern about people getting behind the wheel of a car when drunk. They make their problem into someone else's when an accident occurs. Lohan and anyone who is DUI, have no right to play with other people's lives or destroy innocent families due to their criminal behavior.


Ted   August 4th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

@ Jen

I did not want to offend you, as I wrote those were questions, not implications of how do you live in your family.

I give you an example: good friends of ours, middle class, both having good jobs, had a daughter.
They believed in modern upbringing, meaning let the child decide what she does.
We were at their house, the daughter was 15 years old and after midnight still not at home and the parents did not know where she was.
That girl had all the freedom, nobody though her the limitations of life.
At 15 she had sex for money to support her drug habits, came home 3-4 o┬┤clock in the morning, slept until noon, skipped school, etc.
Luckily she got smart and now is a happily married 32 years old.

Whose fault was this, the child who never got the right upbringing or the parents who thought it is easier just to let the child do what she wants. As I can see from your blog you did enough for her.
Sometimes there are kids who just want to distroy themselves, regardless the caring they get. I wish you good luck with your effort.

And Jen, do not kid yourself, alcoholism and drug addiction are not diceases, it is just a bad habit that turned into addiction.
You do not need medicine to cure it, just stop taking that nasty stuff and voila, you are OK.


Etajh   August 4th, 2010 2:13 pm ET

I'm not sure if the American public realizes that a repeat offender, drug user, drunk driver, and a woman disrespectful to the American justice system, was sentenced to 90 days in prison. This in itself was an extremely lenient charge for a repeat offender. Lindsey Lohan was given even more grace by only serving 13 days out of that 90 day sentence, based on the ludicrous excuse of an over crowded jail, as if 84 minutes in jail for cocaine possession wasn't enough of a joke. The United States has been plagued with over crowded jails for years, and I am not aware of this excuse being used before, to release a repeat offender. There are many in jail currently serving their full sentence on lesser charges. How can we possibly take the American Justice System seriously when actors and other celebrities treat it like such a joke. All we give them is a slap on the wrist and a stay at their hotel like rehabilitation centers, and declare that justice has been served. Where's the justice in that?


hugsnkisses   August 4th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

PLEASE STOP HURTING LILO SHE IS BUTIFUL AND LOVELY AND TALENTED YOU ARE ALL JUST JEALOUS HATERS LEAVE HER ALONE


Jessie from Auckland, NZ   August 5th, 2010 8:35 am ET

I feel sorry for Lindsay Lohan. To go into a Court Room for quite a serious offense with what was written on her fingers, shows she has an attitude problem as well and is being disrespectful IMO.

She needs to clean up her act smartly. I have a daughter roundabout her age, and I would be ashamed to have her carrying on like that. This is the way a lot of young people are going nowadays and it is very sad. They do not see what they are doing to their lives.

She was very lucky to get only the 13 days in jail instead of 90. What happens if she does it again. For her sake and all our sakes, I just hope she is on the path to recovery. She needs to take it seriously.
Good luck to her. I hope she takes the chances she is being given and not have to hit rock bottom.


Expat American   August 5th, 2010 4:11 pm ET

Throughout most of the world women face war, assault and rape on a daily basis.

However, in America, we place on a pedestal a no-talent $10 gutter whore whose only contribution to this world is drinking, doing drugs and posing in her bikini for the paparazzi.

God Bless America.


Jen   August 6th, 2010 10:47 pm ET

Rose – thank you.

These drugs are physically addicting. You've seen what detox does. Now imagine an 11 year old who finds her 90 pound frame yearning for the daily beer with friends and more. How does the young body cope? Their chemistry differs from ours, their fat holds the drug for months, sometimes a year. How can we win?

With all of the experience I have in the 6 times at bat watching her go through treatment, I want to help others. Maybe someday I'll put it all down in a blog that is searchable at 3:00am when you are crying for help because you don't know where to turn. There is hope, there are ways, of finding the help you need with and without insurance. We need to remove the guilt and the shame in raising these kids because you people don't really get it, the kids have no choice once their hooked. Call it what you may, dis-ease is what it is, the family suffers.

So you're saying that the addicts child born with the urge to have heroin, it was the child's choice?

You're saying these kids have the tools and the know how to say no and not crave the drugs that take them away from all of the pain we provide – or they unseemingly feel as the wade through life?

Wow, I'm actually writing to a forum for solace. Back to reality I go. Peace be with you all.


Jen   August 8th, 2010 12:18 pm ET

Help ;-(

She's drunk again. She lied again. I had a night without knowing where she was...again.

I was strong yesterday and today I"m back where I never thought I would be again – confused and wondering where the system failed her and us again.

Why did her social worker not tell me that this has occurred before, just a couple of weeks ago?

Where is her probation officer – I haven't seen any paperwork from the court since her court date for a minor consumption 3 months ago ?

Where are her friends when they watch her spiral down again?

Where are the authorities when she had drinks in a public place last night, brought to her at the table when she has no ID that states she's more than 17 years old?

Where's her dad?

Where am I going to go now????? I've been up all night, yes she's home safe without phone or PC but I can't lock her up. She'll be 18 in a month.

And I have to go on a business trip tomorrow.

Oh crap folks....can you see now where all of this has got to stop? These kids and their families need help.


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