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July 22, 2010

LKL – 13 year old convicted of killing his father and now free

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MelindaPaves   July 22nd, 2010 9:44 am ET

I am all for giving a person a second chance.. We all should have that right.. But after watching last night interview, to me, Alex still has not taken ANY responsibility for what happen. Still blaming other people is not the way to go if you really want a CHANGE in your life. I would have appaluded him if he just admitted his part. In order to move on a grow, you have to accept responsibility.. I saw none taken... But he have to live with that, so..


AngryViewer   July 22nd, 2010 9:51 am ET

What I saw was a single father trying to do his best for his children. And what he gets? A bat to the side of the head ... mudered in cold blood. And all the people on the program on Larry King last night was praising his murderer. PATHETIC!


Commenter   July 22nd, 2010 11:14 am ET

First off, the poor child AT 12 admitted to taking part in the murder of his father. He knows as well as everyone else that he has admitted it. What child at age 12 just wakes up one morning and says HEY lets kill someone today. This pedofile guy probably threatened the kids or who knows what else, kids are vulnerable at that stage in life. He has accepted the responsibility by accepting what he has done was wrong. I personally think he will take his second chance and use it to its fullest.


Georgia   July 22nd, 2010 11:44 am ET

The psychologist stated that normal child developmental stages were developed from "cooing" and progressed to speech in the form of words and sentences. But, how did Alex develop the same or different from normal kids his age from Birth to 9 and beyond?

Then, the lawyer stated that the conviction relied on developmental levels and the fact that Alex had not reached the appropriate developmental level to be able to not developmentally but, perhaps, cognitively discern what he had done. In other words, he lacked cognitive development to understand what he did. Larry, in agreement, stated that the case was multiple angled and extremely complicated to which the foster mother agreed. She even at one point stated: "This can be argued from both sides" to Larry's question of the verdict handed down at the trial. Thus, the lawyer argued developmental or psychological incompetence and Larry argued multiple complexity. Thus, they agreed upon the complexity and the foster parent stated that things could be argued both ways, again stating complexity. The psychologist even cited "normal speech development" but implied that normal development for Alex did not follow the normal developmental course.

Now to the current situation. Currently Alex cannot see his brother or mother. He lives in a foster home and has a professional role model in the foster mother that is professional. She has a job. She's successful in business and models good behavior and he attends college and picks up oil on the beach for BP to earn a car. The professional modeling of good behavior is important. The removal of poor models is removed from his live. He's 21.

Based on the testimony of the participants on LKL, I believe that Alex didn't develop normally. Now, he is. But, the experts on the show agree that the approach of "unconditional love" as outlined in the foster parents approach to working with Alex, works. In fact the lawyer, foster parent, psychologists and Alex agreed that "unconditional love" works. They state that he hasn't acted up and has demonstrated no violence toward anyone as evidence that it works.

In summary, I'm not an expert on psychology or developmental states but see that this case might serve as a model for changing programs for handling youth criminals in the future who might be tried as adults but instead are tried as children in the courts and given jail time and rehabilitation into communities later on.


Faith   July 22nd, 2010 4:53 pm ET

The types of stories and interviews like the one about this young man are far more meaningful to the morales of society and the viewing public than interviews and fingerpointing with guests disecting the lives of celebrities such as LL (so sick of that coverage that I can't even type her name).
I know so many were touched by this story, including you Larry, please produce more of these. Thank you for including Deepak as well.


GMC (AKA: 2GinasDailyOpEd)   July 22nd, 2010 6:30 pm ET

I commend this lady for dedicating herself to these boys. I remember the case and was outraged they were tried as they were. The pedophile manipulated these young boys into believing they were abused.
Children are like clay in that they can be molded in any direction. Unfortunately, some of our kids our poured into an ill-fit defective mold.

For any parent reading this, please spend time teaching your children about love and your feelings for them. Also about strangers. Their father struggled to support them but I think unknowingly failed in expressing his love for them. In the end, a pedophile moved into the dynamics of the family and through his evil manipulated two young impressionable boys.

I know these young men are having trouble finding jobs. I know Alex is interested in Med/Biology. What about the Alex and Derek starting up a small business? I am sure, that ppl would be willing to buy products from these boys via internet. Perhaps a portion of the proceeds can go to the defense of other children caught in the legal system.

Good luck and God Bless.


wayne james   July 22nd, 2010 6:36 pm ET

It's disgusting......those two kids, after the hell they went through, deserve every break they can get........ and more.


IsThisForReal?   July 22nd, 2010 8:33 pm ET

Yes, they may have been manipulated. Yes, they were very young. But they are scary. Alex seems to have no real emotions – he's either drugged on psychotropic meds or a sociopath. What is going to be the excuse when one or both of them kill the foster mother or someone else? That they were being abused? I happen to know a few people that were sexually/verbally/physically abused and none of them had the killing instinct. Sometimes evil starts young.


IsThisForReal?   July 22nd, 2010 9:26 pm ET

I forgot to mention – some of the comments here are also scary. I have trouble thinking that my tax dollars might be wasted on two men, who murdered their father, so they can go to college. I'd rather see two men who worked their whole life with the purpose of educating themselves and didn't murder their father. There are good people out there who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own and they can't find work – even at minimum wage, so I'm not so concerned about two men who murdered their father. Let the men who didn't murder their fathers be first in line for the good jobs. Or let all of the people who think those the brothers were just "steered" down the wrong path by outside influences give them a job – babysitting. Hmmm- I don't think so.


lowretta   July 22nd, 2010 10:13 pm ET

i wonder what drug they have this young man on. Did anyone else notice him falling asleep, or at least very very heavy eyes as if sedated? Aside from looking drugged, seems well spoken, well mannered, and intellignet.


TAW   July 22nd, 2010 10:51 pm ET

Does anyone happen to know where the mother was in this family? And I also noticed that the young man was HEAVILY sedated. Hopefully he will be a functioning member of society, but something about his "adopted" mom seemed strange. Hopefully I'm wrong.


viewer   July 23rd, 2010 1:41 am ET

Alex seemed robotic and I agree with other posters that he also seemed drugged. He has conveniently and effectively blocked out his participation in the murder of his father. Where is Alex's sense of responsibility for his actions, where is his remorse? Where is a normal person's emotions? None were displayed on this program. Instead, blame is leveled at Chavis and Derek. During the trial, both brothers admitted there was no abuse by the dad . As for Medico, she is just creepy and seems to have her own agenda. I came away feeling really sorry for the father and angry at Larry King for giving this young man airtime.


viewer   July 23rd, 2010 9:00 am ET

Oh, and Larry forgot to mention that the brothers set fire to the house after murdering Terry King.


vitoria   July 23rd, 2010 10:26 am ET

I saw no emotions on this boy expressions maybe is because of shame
or medication or no feelings at all or he went through a lot while imprisoned !
where is the mother ?
Why the mother isn't beside her son right now and loving him and supporting him ?
I believing in forgiveness and that people can change but honestly
this boy scare me a little bit i can't point my finger but hopefully he is changed for the better and wont turn on this wonderful lady that is giving him a chance for a normal lovingly life!


APM   July 23rd, 2010 3:01 pm ET

Hugh Hufner, you're a great man. We need more people like you. Thank you Hugh for being open minded . Thank you again for showing great strength during the civil rights movement.


Lucy   July 23rd, 2010 5:13 pm ET

This was an extremely touching show. I so applaud the adoptive mom, Rosie O'Donnell, Deepak Chopra, and the attorney.

I hope Alex continues to heal and to do well for himself and society. I loved seeing him smile when his mom said nice things about him.

Shame on our country and the state of Florida for prosecuting kids as adults. Bless the adoptive mom for changing this boy's life.


Fred Mulama   July 23rd, 2010 8:50 pm ET

Surely if indeed laws were put in place to favor under age for that matter Alex shouldn't have been jailed for nine years. To my imagination i can't believe at the age of 13 years one can waite see his sleeping Father and hit him with a bat resulting his death. Surely as i watched Larry king's show at the time boy was entering court room,by then he was somehow don't care. But now he is a different person. I would wish to read where abouts of the boy's mother. About, 'should kids face the law like adults?'. According to my view to minimize violence in this generation those over 10 years should face the law.


Terry Collins   July 23rd, 2010 8:56 pm ET

Nice to see that alex has been gien a second chance on life and making the most of it and a hugh applauses go out to his lawyer his adoptive mother and rosie o'donnell and deepak with that kind of support he will continue to be on the good path of life
people need to stop prejudging alex and give him a chance to succeed as he is making a good start to the the road of happiness


viewer   July 23rd, 2010 10:51 pm ET

A good start in life does not begin by murdering one's own father.


Piggy   July 25th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

I think they both deserve a second chance, leave them alone, people!


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