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July 15, 2010

Ranting tapes total 5 today as experts believe Gibson tapes were altered

Posted: 02:53 PM ET

Via Examiner.com

Mel Gibson's tapes have been examined by the same audio experts that worked on the Natalie Holloway and JonBenet' Ramsey cases. The voices are on separate tracks which can be heard when Gibson's  estranged girlfriend, Oksana Grigorieva, speaks with much more clarity than he does, according to ABC News.

Gibson has not commented on these vile tapes, which have been released by RadarOnline at the rate of one a day since the beginning of this week. There are now five tapes all together on RadarOnline.

It is more than likely the voice on these disgusting tapes is Mel Gibson, but the experts believe they have been cut and pasted together for more of an impact. They do not believe it was RadarOnline that has cut the tape.  They believe the tapes were edited by the original source, with releasing them to the public in mind, before they were given to RadarOnline.

One of the forensic audio experts, Arlo West, appeared on Good Morning America today to explain why he believes these tapes were altered. Even the viewers have written in with questions about the tape because Oksana sounds so clear and Gibson does not. West believes the tapes were done with "a professional microphone and were professionally edited for distribution".  No one is disputing that it is Mel Gibson on the tapes, it is just that words and phrases appeared to be pasted together to get these professionally sounding tapes. He believes there is no question about it – the tapes were altered.

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Bill Hicks   July 15th, 2010 6:12 pm ET

The smear campaign against the woman has begun. This is even more disgusting than the tapes themselves. She never denied making the tapes, so why are they trying to make seem like a big deal that the quality of her voice is so good? To smear her. Again, she never denied making the tapes or getting help to make them. Thats' what you do when a violent man is threatening your life: you get help.

Any editing that was done was to spare Gibson further embarrassment. The utter quantity of rage and anger from Gibson is impervious to editing techniques.

What a shameless attempt to smear this woman. For shame!


lola   July 15th, 2010 6:45 pm ET

I am no expert, but it is blatantly obvious the tapes have been altered. It is also obvious who released them to the media........the girlfriend from hell. Nevertheless, Mel needs help and is a very disturbed egomaniac. Both deserve each other. One is more rotten than the other. That poor 8 month old baby doesn't stand a chance.


J Ryan   July 15th, 2010 9:03 pm ET

Tape #5 Mel Gibson rant excerpt : Mel Gibson yells at Oksana: “I spent too much goddamn money on you! And my wife knows! It’s you!”

When exactly were these tapes made? If the tapes were purportedly made after the January 06, 2010 altercation between Mel and Oksana, and Mel was divorced from Robyn, why would it matter if his wife knew. He was divorced from Robyn by then. It doesn't add up.


John H   July 15th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

The choice of words and names used against Oksana are damning but I am not ready to take sides in this one. Oksana clearly knew the conversation was being taped while Mel Gibson did not. That is a clear advantage for Oksana in the court of world opinion as she could chose her words and tone easily to make it appear that the problem is solely on one side of the equation, Mr. Gibsons. I don't condone the way Mr. Gibson conducted himself but I do know it normally takes two to make a fight and she knows full well the buttons to push. What is the point of making these tapes and releasing them? Are they to support a complaint that Mr. Gibson is violent and get some sort of protection against him or are they to get the maximum monetary advantage? I suspect it is a combination of the two. Mr. Gibson needs to get professional help. He is a very talented actor and it would be a shame to lose him as a performer.


John D.   July 15th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

I agree Mel needs to get some help. He could be helped. Can this deceitful, manipulative woman be helped; I doubt it.


Solomon Gyimah   July 15th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

it was a trap for him and she just want his money


ckesling   July 15th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

@ tim manfredi and bill hicks, thank you both for sticking up for oksana !!! i was in a bad relationship and got out in a hurry !!! she did what she had to to protect herself from an violent man!!! this is not mels first rodeo making an ass out of himself. hopefully he will go away and never hear from him again !!!!


deidre   July 15th, 2010 10:15 pm ET

I am convinced that the tapes were altererd , Mel was set up. Not to say he doesnt have a temper, bi polar disroder ( he sounds like someone who did not take his meds for bi polar disorder) and alocholism. But this woman was enabling his problems deliberately ...and setting him up bigtime. Look at her history. She got pregnant with another rich actor before ( Timothy Dalton) and lived off his child support checks. Now she is older and more desperate. This is her attempt to milk Mel as much as she can for her retirement fund. Its like duh... the authorities couldn't figure it out yet ??? I believe Robyn when she says he never hit her or abused her. He was probably taking his meds and was somewhat happy with a good woman. Bi polar condition is controllable when meds are taken. I think Oksana somhow tampered with something here to lead him to this path of self destruction and use it to her advantage. Anna Nicole Smith rings a bell? When will the authorities wake up and go after the real bad people who viciomized the money-making stars especially when they have addictions or are chemically unbalanced. Gaining control over their life and then extorting them. She is the real culprit and needs to be prosecuted. Mel should just get some therapy , take his meds, seek forgiveness from the Lord and from his ex wife Robyn. She will probably take him back and help him on the right path.


deidre   July 15th, 2010 10:21 pm ET

PS : Robyn and Mel are still not divorced. For all legal purposes, he can still refer to Robyn as "my wife". Their divorce case is still pending.


Eliot   July 16th, 2010 1:03 am ET

Since it is obvious that the tapes are doctored, then it is also obvious that what she says on tape was inserted and was not part of the original conversation. We don't know what she said to incite those emotional outbursts from him. She could have said any outrageous things – threatened him, threatened his children, anything. Paparazzi do that to celebrities to get wild reactions from them for the camera; it is hardly a new tactic.


Jack   July 16th, 2010 2:21 am ET

She could have used a digital voice recorder to record Gibson on a speakerphone, which easily explains the clarity on her end. $50 will buy you a recorder capable of that audio quality (at least from what I can hear).

I'm sure there are high-end phone recorders that a lot of celebs can afford anyhow.

If there was also some cutting and mixing, anyone who's practiced with easily-obtainable sound editing software could have done it, not just a "professional."

Maybe there's more to it than I can tell, but I don't hear a big conspiracy, just Mad Mel in typical form.


desnudas   July 16th, 2010 4:37 am ET

big-time bipos are okay, so are death threats. good women can take care of that. what isn't okay are girlfriends from hell.

about time women knew how to fight mean when dealing with men who would rather pay their therapists than their exes from hell.


pm   July 16th, 2010 8:28 am ET

Radar online claims the girlfriend didn't provide the recordings. So, how did they get them? I find that more troubling than Mad Max's rage.


Scotty2010   July 16th, 2010 9:56 am ET

No doubt this woman is a golddigger, no doubt at all. She's setting him up, why else would she record their conversations then release them to the media?

No doubt Mel has issues, thinks he's King of the Hill and all, but I'm pretty darn sure she's doing things intentionally to push him over the edge, so she can play 'the victim' and score herself a nice settlement.

B*tch, indeed! She should know better than to mess with Mel, hasn't she seen his movies?


joeKennedy   July 16th, 2010 10:43 am ET

It seems that her portion of the tapes were scripted.Am i wrong?


Sarah   July 16th, 2010 4:22 pm ET

Hmmm, I thought it was odd that after 28 years of marriage and 7 children that we never heard any inking of violence towards his wife and children. Just strange to come out of nowhere. Then now the fact the tapes have been altered and his wife is willing to testify she never saw this kind of behavior in 28 years of marriage. While I believe it is NEVER okay for a man to hit a woman, I know of two relationships where the woman is truly the b from hell and will push and push and push the buttons and try for just this kind of reaction to use against the man. I mean bad psychological abuse...I am talking withholding food from the man's child when not happy, continuous put downs...."you are a loser, you are nothing" all the while having no problem spending all his money. He may be racist, but I have a hard time believing the woman is miss innocent in this story.


Ana Lorena Melendez   July 16th, 2010 5:26 pm ET

Even if the recoded conversations between Mel Gibson and Oksana are the real thing, the courts in fairness should investigate the kind of person that this lady is.

Mel may need help, but this lady may need it even more if her intent on making these tapes public displaying her marital problems, is to disgrace her spouse and take advantage of the situation, which in the surface makes her appear as the victim. Her previous behaviour should be investigated and also taken into consideration before a veredict is reached.


Eddie   July 17th, 2010 5:43 am ET

This is typical.....He of course have to keep his mouth closed and not comment. They're obviously trying to hang him out to dry. I don't know how many people haven't cursed somebody out on the telephone? Regardless to what race anybody is they've used the "N" word! Honkey word! Wet Back word! And so on....That doesn't make you a racist either. The way they tried to brainwash people watching this discussion. To get all the black people in rage....especially black men! Pitiful! AMERICAN'S WAKE UP!! You talk about them giving a "death by stoning" in the EAST...You do the same thing in the WEST verbally. The same as you did M.Jackson, Tiger Woods, and everybody else!


Scot   July 18th, 2010 9:51 am ET

As despicable as Mel is, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. Mel is a very sick, angry man. But I think Oksana is conniving and evil.


wddb   July 30th, 2010 11:15 pm ET

OMG, you Gibson apologists are disgusting.

He KNOCKED HER TEETH OUT, and THEN left a phone message saying he was sorry, and you DEFEND HIM??

THIS is the attitude Nicole Simpson was up against, and Oksana knew it.

She KNEW that, minus Gibson's own words, SHE WOULD NOT BE BELIEVED.

Yeah, yeah; evil Eve, Jezebel, Mata Hari, whoever. Misogynism, not-so-pure and simple.

Poor, poor manipulated men. So sad, they have no will-power, no self-control, when set upon by these witches!
Good thing Hollywood isn't Salem, 1642.


Diana   July 31st, 2010 7:48 pm ET

There is no proof that he knocked her veneers off, and the "apology" doesn't refer to the teeth at all. It can just as easily be interpreted as him saying he's sorry he yelled at her. Also, the recordings were supposedly made in Mid- Feb, 6 weeks after the supposed fight. Yet the time in between, the 2 were still together and traveling internationally for PR. Do you truly believe in all that time he would have overlooked asking her about her teeth?


jackie   August 8th, 2010 7:00 pm ET

john H:
this were phone conversations. i am not sure, but i have heard that, legally, you are to assume that any phone conversation is being taped. not like someone hiding a recorder in her purse at a restaurant, for instance.


jen   September 28th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ signs is all she see's, and to make sure he can't see his baby. he was good to his life for many years, and was good to his other kids. so why is he so bad now? i don't beleive all that she is saying is true. i love you as an actor!!!!!!!! i will not stop watching your movies. i don't care about your personal life. good luck mel!!!!


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