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May 25, 2010

Here's an explanation of what 'top kill' means

Posted: 02:12 PM ET

As BP gets ready to attempt to cap off the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico, here's an explanation of what 'top kill' means:

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D J   May 25th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

My 2 Cents on the BP/OIL LEAK situation

I think BP ought to be removed from the so-called 'clean-up' in every way shape or form! Another Oil Company, completely independent from BP, should be brought in immediately to finish the 'clean-up' the right way, to be paid, in full, by BP! It is quite Obvious that BP DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE as to how to rectify the oil leak and all the problems it's caused.
Personally I am going to boycott using any BP (or ANY OF IT'S SUBSIDIARIES) gas stations.. And I urge everyone to do the same.
I can only hope that when the oil leak is finally fixed than an investigation is conducted to see what criminal charges should BP, and it's executive officers' should be charged with.
Finally, I think BP ( and all of it's past, present, or future subsidiaries )ought to be BANNED , effective IMMEDIATELY, from drilling ANYWHERE in the US and it's waters... All current drilling by the aforementioned BP ( and all it's past, present, or future subsidiaries) should cease within 24 Hours!!!

'Nuff Said!
D J
Iowa


David Kaas   May 25th, 2010 3:05 pm ET

Did you know that the oil rig was blown-up by a N Korean mini-sub, but rumor has it that it was Isreali and ordered by Obama. Tune-in "BlogTalkRadio.com" on the FreeAmerica Hour. This is the news!


Dodie   May 25th, 2010 3:13 pm ET

Corexit is a product line of solvents produced by Nalco Holding Company. One variant was used in the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska…According to Wikipedia

What is Corexit made from? COREXIT is a blend of oxyalkylate polymers, sulfonic acid salt, substituted fatty ester, and glycol ether.

How toxic is Corexit? The use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill on March 24, 1989, caused "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders" in people…… According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics.

Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude. Alternative dispersants which are approved by the EPA are listed on the National Contingency Plan Product Schedule and rated for their toxicity and effectiveness (See Below) …… According to the EPA,

I hope the table works...

Dispersants

Product............................Toxicity...Effectiveness (%)

BIODISPERS......................5.95............63.00
COREXIT® EC9500A........3.61............54.70
COREXIT® EC9527A........4.49............63.40
DISPERSIT SPC 1000™..7.90..........100.00
FINASOL OSR 52...............5.40............71.60
JD-109.................................3.84.............91.00
JD-2000™...........................3.59.............77.80
MARE CLEAN 200...........42.00............84.14
NEOS AB3000..................57.00............89.80
NOKOMIS 3-AA.................34.22............65.70
NOKOMIS 3-F4...............100.00............64.90
SAF-RON GOLD..................9.25............53.80
SEA BRAT #4.....................23.00............60.65


IKHAN   May 25th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

Hi Larry,
G.Morning folks.
Almost 3 million gallons a day of gushing oil, plumes underwater estimated 10 miles across , apprx 2500 sq miles already covered with this poison. Our shores both the Pacific & Atlantic threatened. Horrifying dimensions of economic & financial consequences.The damage to the ecosystem, we can't even begin to imagine.
What could be a bigger threat to us right now?
What kept BP, those in the admn entrusted with keeping a look out for such horrors & our politicians from immediate attention & then total focus on this calamity? Anybody's guess.
Does anyone has a clue to what happens next to control the damage?


Dodie   May 25th, 2010 3:43 pm ET

How serious is this oil spill? “Thirty years after approximately 175,000 gallons of No. 2 fuel oil spilled from the barge FLORIDA in Buzzards Bay near West Falmouth, MA, residues of the oil can still be found in salt marsh sediments” according to scientists at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI)

Why are Toxic Solvents Used & Covered Up?
Why is BP using Nalco’s Corexit, which is highly toxic to both humans and wildlife?
Corexit’s manufacturer, Nalco Holding Company is owned by the Blackstone Group which is a huge investment conglomerate Blackstone has had Japanese investors for many years, but relatively recently doubled that investment; The Japanese now own 20% of Blackstone.

Rodney F. Chase, was a former 11-year board member of BP. Rodney F. Chase and Richard B. Marchese are the current named Directors of Nalco Holding Company.

Ah ha!!! So there is the connection! Of course, and why not keep it in the family? Who says there is no such thing as “World Corporate Domination Syndrome”? This is an excellent example. Now, Blackstone also sounds very familiar…


Joe G. (Illinois)   May 25th, 2010 3:47 pm ET

How can Borak Obama who got elected on the pretense of “Change” continue to watch on the sidelines without nominating another Czar?

If you ask me It’s an embarrassment of the Socialist/Communist movement. What’s holding Borak Obama back?
He has done it many times before???


Smith in Oregon   May 25th, 2010 7:02 pm ET

@ Dodie, IKHAN, good information and pertinant facts about the ungoing foobar in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm not surprised to learn that the toxic dispersant being used were co-owned by figures in or related to BP. By going thru such huge amounts, it effectively freezes their competition who appear to have less toxic and more effective dispersant on the world market.

With the overwhelming pertinence of viewers being able to watch the public ROV deep sea BP Gusher Web Camera, you'd think the LKL blog moderators would allow me to post the link here so that CNN visitors could also watch the live streaming video of the Gusher.


Dodie   May 25th, 2010 7:23 pm ET

The last part of this puzzle!

And who is Rodney F. Chase ?

Executive summary: Former BP executive

University: BA History, Liverpool University

Tesco Deputy Chairman
British Petroleum Deputy Group CEO and Managing Director (1992- 2003)
Member of the Board of Computer Sciences Corporation (2001-)
Member of the Board of Nalco Holding (2005-)
Member of the Board of Petrofac Limited (as Chairman, 2005-)
Member of the Board of Tesoro Petroleum (2006-)
Lehman Brothers Senior Advisor (2003-)
World Business Council for Sustainable Development

And what is World Business Council for Sustainable Development ?

"The World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) is a CEO-led, global association of some 200 companies dealing exclusively with business and sustainable development.

The Council provides a platform for companies to explore sustainable development, share knowledge, experiences and best practices, and to advocate business positions on these issues in a variety of forums, working with governments, non-governmental and intergovernmental organizations.

Members are drawn from more than 30 countries and 20 major industrial sectors. The Council also benefits from a global network of some 60 national and regional business councils and regional partners."

Ah! "World Corporate Domination Syndrome"....maybe something I should coin!

@ CNN (Thank You for allowing this blog to go through)


Eveiyah   May 25th, 2010 7:40 pm ET

Everyone is surprise about this oil spill this was premeditated they wrote it in the BIBLE AND CARRY IT OUT Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed

Rev16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.


gerald Jolly   May 25th, 2010 8:36 pm ET

@ Dodie, great post.

I hope our bloggers will take the time to read the information you researched, I'm afraid too many people browse over some of the blogs on LKL but dont realize the impact some of these rogue corporations have on their lives.

What bothers and puzzles me most is, that if someone like you with your busy personal life and work schedule, can research a subject of this magnitude, what the heck is our government agencies doing??

If you can dig up this information, WHERE THE HECK WAS THE government watchdogs on this matter.

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!


Chuck   May 25th, 2010 8:47 pm ET

@Joe G. (Illinois),
It is interesting that the government is doing so little. I find it especially interesting that the Saudi's asked for our help in 1991 during the Persian spill and we did go and we did help. However, the current administration has turned down an offer of help from several countries, including Saudi A. One has to wonder why that is. I think perhaps Obama is so anti-corporate America that he would rather see the entire effort fail and fail solely on the back of BP, simply because it is a corporation. Funny how he can go abroad and humble us with his words but display such arrogance at such a price when we need the help.


IKHAN   May 25th, 2010 8:57 pm ET

@Dodie
intriguing indeed. That corporations owned countries was a "myth" doing the circuits & their toxic spill over American political & economic strata was often the subject of discussion on this blog & others. The angle that you bring to attention has a direct bearing on Corporate Domination.
And yes Blackstone would be familiar to fellow bloggers. The Big question however remains.What now?
@Joe G.
What Socialist/Communist movement? The only movement we are witnessing currently is the no-fascism of the likes of Tea Partiers, Sarah Palins, Rand Pauls,Jan Brewers, the Wing-nuts etc.
By the way Rand Paul had no hesitation in coming to the rescue of BP from Obama's 'heavy handedness'.


Dodie   May 25th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

@ Gerald

Thanks for your kind support. Now, if we can find something that will stop this horrific oil geyser. I had thought about tons of pulverized rock?


Dodie   May 25th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

@IKHAN

I agree with you. We need to solve the immediate problem. I would recommend the government organize scientists from all over the world that have had experience in oil spills, and ecological environments.

Because it is an oil 'geyser', that means there is more pressure in the oil field below the sea bottom than at the bottom of the sea. Possibly covering the entire area with tons of pulverized rock? We need to equalize the pressure.


Chuck   May 25th, 2010 10:15 pm ET

Unfortunately the government doesn't want help from all over the world. Beyond absurd.


Jessie from Auckland, NZ   May 26th, 2010 2:37 am ET

@ D J May 25th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

My 2 Cents on the BP/OIL LEAK situation
++++++++

Well said.


Ted   May 26th, 2010 8:17 am ET

@ Dodie

Please no scientists!! Those blockheads will discuss the situation for months, argue who is the smarter, and at the end will have no solution.
We need oil engineers who have long experience dealing with small and big mishaps in the field.

President Obama should take control, send the BP guys fishing, appoint well known experts from outside that company who have no interest to save the reputation of BP.
A Grand Jury should indict all leading BP executives and managers.
BP should deposit with the federal goverment 5 billion dollars to ensure that claims for damages will be paid. They made over 6 billion profit in the first three months of this year, so they swim in money.
BP should also be responsible for damages in the years to come, as this oilspill will have effects for the next 20 years or longer.

In the future only US companies should be allowed to drill for oil and operate the wells in our waters and only under the most restrictive safety rules.


IKHAN   May 26th, 2010 11:47 am ET

@Dodie,@Ted,@Smith@gerald Jolly@D J@Jessie
That BP should cede control of this operation to USA makes sense. But who takes control then? An American Oil Co, a panel of oil engineers, scientists or experts drawn from US & other advanced countries?
I'm sure this country has no dearth of experts in this field. The element of urgency cannot also be ignored.


Chuck   May 26th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

@Dodie,
It's a stretch to connect board members in a negative manner. Almost any Board of Directors have members who tend to have at least a basic understanding of the company's business. Because someone is on a company's board for a period of time does not necessarily mean they have some loyalty, particularly questionable loyalty, to that company when they are later on a different board. Case in point. Google CEO was on Apple's board. For those on LKL who take the time to learn anything about business instead of constantly criticizing it, they would know how much loyalty Mr. Schmidt has to Mr. Jobs today. It's nice to move our fingers quickly on the keyboard and see what we can find, but much of it is unfortunately irrelevant to the problem at hand.


Dodie   May 27th, 2010 12:50 am ET

@ Chuckie

We are Not discussing Mr. Schmidt or Mr. Jobs. I was discussing Rodney F. Chase with his past and present board memberships. Because he has been on the board of both corporations, could this be the cause for the corporations operating in uniform with each other? Case in point: I find it very odd after the EPA has given BP a directive to use a different dispersant, they continue to ignore that directive. Since you know so much, maybe you can explain why they are ignoring a government's directive?

Last but not least. Your innuendo is a typical deep fry and certainly displays your greasy persona.


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