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April 29, 2010

Tonight on Larry King Live!

Posted: 07:00 PM ET

Battle on the Border!

Why supporters of Arizona’s tough new immigration law say it’s about time and why critics say it’s time to go to court! The controversy over illegal immigrants!

Bill Richardson and Alberto Gonzales debate!

What do YOU think about the new Arizona Immigration Law? Is it racist?

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Brandon Baer   April 29th, 2010 7:07 pm ET

In construct it is not racist. The implementation and enforcement are the two factors that could cause it to be racist. It will be up to the state administrators to insure it is not used as a weapon of discrimination.


AlphaPoe   April 29th, 2010 7:13 pm ET

Too bad who doesn't like it. It's necessary. The illegals are out of control and ruining the country.


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 7:29 pm ET

The Arizona State Immigration Law is unconstitutional and racist. It will result in the bankruptcy of the State and many of the business's based in Arizona.

Many Arizonians will Immigrate to America after this unlawful State Order is implemented.

With California spearheading the boycott on Arizona, I fail to see the positive spin the Republican-Tea Party and Fox News pundits are trumpeting about.

Arizona should have helped end America's failed War on Drugs, now they are mere spectators to their own demise brought on by the Republican lawmakers.

Republican lawmakers last night were floating the incredibly racist notion that children born in America from illegal immigrants 'lack the soul of American citizenship' !!!

What? Republican lawmakers are stating Hispanic children who are American Citizens 'lack the soul of American citizenship' ??!!!

US Constitution and its Amendments: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, Amendment 14. shall not be interfered with by States in regards to American citizenship.

This Republican Party attempt to demonize Hispanic Children born in the United States speaks very highly of crass demeaning Racism.

Republican lawmakers and their Tea Party followers often thump following the US Constitution. Apparently they greatly deviate from that Republican Mantra when it is self-serving, go figure!

I suspect many Arizonians will immigrate to America when Arizona goes bankrupt from the boycott.

I hope the Democratic Party continuously tells the Hispanic Community and the voting public, 'Remember Arizona' come mid-term election time.

Not even the Arizona State Governor could tell reporters when asked, 'What does a illegal immigrant look like'. Arizona's police will be sued back to the dark ages by both sides of this illegal law, welcome to the real world.

No State Law shall infringe nor supersede Federal Law's, this Republican racist State Law is Unconstitutional.


Todd Tate   April 29th, 2010 7:35 pm ET

The reality is the federal government has not fulfilled one of its most necessary obligations for the people of Arizona and other border states. They have never secured our border with Mexico. I live in Scottsdale and we see regularly on the news the drophouses in the Phoenix area where illegal immigrants are housed until they are moved. We also see the most serious crime brought on by so many of the illegal immigrants. Phoenix is the kidnap capitol of the US. The state of Arizona is already in such a dire situation financially. We cannot afford to keep paying taxes to support the estimated 600,000 illegal immigrants in this state. The federal government has been an abject FAILURE in regards to illegal immigration. Arizona has had enough. The national media has no idea how bad the problem is here. I support the new immigration law. If nothing else, I hope it sends a strong message to Washington that the majority of legal Arizona and US residents want action once and for all.


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 7:36 pm ET

Republican-Tea Party - less tolerance - more hatred.


LacrosseMom(the real one)   April 29th, 2010 7:38 pm ET

Dear Larry,

I would like you or CNN to look up the 4th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution and invite Constitutional professors on your show to debate SR 1070. Unfortunately, too many Americans do not know their own Constitution!

SR 1070, reminds me of the Jim Crow Laws of the south. There is no question that this law allows profiling. How else can the police 'suspect' someone is illegal unless they look at a person's race or ethnicity?!

During the Civil Rights era, I remember the arguments from those opposed to Black Americans receiving their Rights; some of the arguments were that our nation's economy would be destroyed, that Blacks would ruin neighborhoods by moving in, etc.! Those same angry voices are shouting again, this time they want to "round them up and deport them" etc.

One Iowa state representative, suggested today, that undocumented immigrants should have a microchip implanted in them! Are we a nation of Justice and Freedom or not?

Let's find fair and just ways to solve the immigration problem, hate is not the answer!


LacrosseMom(the real one)   April 29th, 2010 7:38 pm ET

Mucha Gracias, Smith in Oregon! I do not know you, but you represent the best of America! Peace!


Joe G. (Illinois)   April 29th, 2010 7:43 pm ET

The US Border Patrol deserves no more funding or efforts than what give to the DEA towards drug trafficking and the SEC to over watch all those Wall Street Big Shots who earn more than Borak Obama.


JO   April 29th, 2010 7:46 pm ET

I was taught that this is a country of immigrants not a country for all illegal immigrants-the legal Latinos are missing the point-why should they the (illegals) get all the perks that you worked for-I live in a state were (Rick are you listening) most illegals are paid under the table-they do not pay taxes-the employers pick out a few to deduct taxes so the government stays off there backs.


lola   April 29th, 2010 7:59 pm ET

Illegal immigration costs this country over 53 billion dollars. If the federal govt. does nothing about it, the states will have to take matters into their own hands, such as Arizona – since it has about 10 thousand illegals entering their state each day – many of which are criminals and drug cartels. This is not racial profiling, but is a necessity. Other countries, such as Mexico, are incredibly intolerant to illegals in their own countries and shoot the thousands of Guatemalans that cross their borders every day. Illegals are breaking the law and should be treated as law breakers. Laws need to be enforced, or we all lose.


Dawn Perry   April 29th, 2010 8:01 pm ET

I think the immigration laws should be tougher and that people that want to come here should do so legally. Also, if you want to live in America, then they should learn to speak English.


Barbara Karp   April 29th, 2010 8:02 pm ET

THE IMMAGRATION PROBLEM-this is for Michael Moore also,who. among many use the tired, old, battle cry "weren't our ancestors immigrants too" Here's the difference , our ancestors came into this country, most through Ellis Island.They were "DOCUMENTED" and examined for illness & disease. They HAD to learn to speak, read & write ENGLISH & they didn't run down to the "welfare" office to pick up their checks & food stamps! They lived in terrible poverty & worked to pull themselves up. Today's immigrants hold a feeling of entitlement, most work off the books for cash & pay NO taxes. They use our schools & hospitals & pay nothing! Some have lived in this country for 15 or more years & still do NOT speak English! Our Government, who has allowed this for over 40 years, should be ashamed .From the day the "NO FUME" signs went up in the subways of New york, this country has been on a down slide!It's time, we the people took our Country back!


Robert Canada   April 29th, 2010 8:04 pm ET

Stats show that most abuse of government,social welfare,or tax evasion,frauds whatever crime are most often committed by citizens and not immigrants,illegal or legal..but as usual..the hillbillies are coming out shooting...


lola   April 29th, 2010 8:07 pm ET

Amendment 14, which states all people born in this country are automatically American citizens is antiquated and should be removed . I doubt if our forefathers were thinking of the thousands of illegal immigrants crossing our borders each day when the amendment was written. They would be turning in their graves if they only knew how their well-meaning-words have been used to help destroy the sovreignty of this country.


Jim   April 29th, 2010 8:11 pm ET

What do YOU think about the new Arizona Immigration Law? Is it racist?

Answer: No, it is not racist. This law targets anyone who is in the United states illegally regardless of their race, age, religion, political affiliation, or any other criteria. It only keeps people who are in the U.S. unlawfully from taking scarce jobs that SHOULD go to American citizens. We should bill the government of Mexico or any other nation whose citizens are here in the U.S. illegally for the cost of their deportation. "Catch and release" isn't working, in case any U.S. Senators don't get it yet.
It's bad enough that U.S. Government policies have allowed many jobs to simply run out of the U.S. and be "outsourced" overseas – all in the name of higher profit margins for the thieves on Wall Street, getting million dollar raises even though they caused the financial system to collapse last year. But to allow people to come into this country ILLEGALLY and work without paying taxes, and benefit from the U.S. health care system and NOT PAY for it themselves, is the height of stupidity. Our lawmakers in the federal and state government have to understand that they represent the PEOPLE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, who have a right to work and to pay taxes to support their fellow citizens. The American taxpayer should not be asked to foot the bill for everyone else. Mr. Gonzales, if he is there, should read the restrictions that Mexico places on foreign workers entering their country, legally or otherwise. If our laws were identical to those in Mexico ( regarding foreign workers ), the U.S. would not be spending millions of dollars playing "catch and release" on the border with Mexico. The second time an illegal worker is caught entering the U.S. ( many are drug-runners ), they should be imprisoned indefinitely, or shot if they are involved in the drug trade.
Senator McCain is absolutely right to call for 10,000 more national Guard troops to guard the U.S. borders. The U.S. is still vulnerable to terrorist attacks. – Frustrated taxpayer in Pennsylvania


Angela Savage Austin   April 29th, 2010 8:13 pm ET

Drugs and criminal activities have plague my communties longer than I have been on this planet...I am 55 years old, Afro-American. No one ever suggested to create, change, rewrite or address the Laws on any level to prevent the suffering and destruction of our neighborhoods...even to this very day. Crime is an equal opportunity employer/destroyer and the criminals come in all races, cultures, blue collar, white collar, faith and status. Our children are exposed to the destruction of their childhood and family foundations on a daily basis. I believe that the influxtation of drugs in this country lies in the hands of politicians/law officials who look the other way or their hands are dirty getting a cut of the profits. Low income communities all over this country have been walking in the shoes of the state of Arizona and no one cares because drugs is BIG MONEY!
When are we going to get it!!!!! The Law states clearly we are not to discriminate based on race/color........this Law is broken by citizens and law enforcers every day....work places, schools, military, hospitals, churches, and communities all over this Great Nation. Unfortunately, the fact is that there are racist people reside everywhere, even within the police department. There has to be a better way....and I repeat this question... Do you agree that the State of Arizona has the right to be a Political Vigilante...to rewrite a Federal Law that they and others nationally, believe is inadequate or just because appropiate, timely and necessary action has not been taken, gives them the right to be a self appointed doer of "Just-Us" legislation?.

...We all have been in their shoes when it comes to the "Criminal Environment" they express. Crime is an Equal Opportunity Employer....in every state. I don't have to look at the news to see this...only walk outside my door and sometimes...it walks inside. However, I totally agree that is a major concern for all who resides in Arizona...even the Hispanic population. However, this has put light on the desperation that many feel and ... See Moreexperience and should be addressed before individuals take the Law in theirs Hands. We have troops stationed all over the world and some of the military personnel in each base can be reassigned and relocated to protect all borders in the US. We all know that "Hostily Breeds Hostility" especially when the Law itself is not clear...for example how do you profile someone such as a Canadian, Russian, Italian, Haitian, etc...that may be an illegal living in this country...whats next? Also before the United States became the United States much of these lands were first occupied by the very same people. I pray that the Federal government will takes the steps necessary and fair to address this situation.

Now another consideration I haven't heard mentioned is the Big Business of Prisons and the money that will be made incarcerating the illegals that are detained. How long are they detained before they are exported back to their countries?.


Mike Rose   April 29th, 2010 8:17 pm ET

Every law that profiles a race is racist. However, laws are necessary when any group poses a treat to the American way of life. After 911 those who looked Middle Eastern were profiled stopped and questioned. Many were beaten, and some killed out of ignorant misdirected hate.

Illegal Hispanics who are breaking the law by being here, they don't have squatters rights just because the problem has not been addressed prior to this Arizona law. To address the issue would cost some ignorant politician the Hispanic vote. Regardless of race, illegal immigrants from ANY country have no rights, because they are not here illegally.

We have the immigration laws, the same as every country in the World, including Mexico. Illegal Hispanic aliens need to leave voluntarily, and then enter the US legally, to avoid profiling. Be it by work visa, or citizenship application. Then they need to learn our language "English" and contribute as Americans paying their fare share of taxes, for the services they get free now.

The issue needs to be put in check, the crime, drugs and cost of supporting the illegal Hispanic aliens must stop regardless of any inconvenience to anyone regardless of ethnicity. If California, New Mexico and Texas were to consider the cost of illegal aliens on their benefits programs, they would follow Arizona's example, as would other states where cheap labor is exploited by cheap greedy employers.


Jim   April 29th, 2010 8:20 pm ET

Additional comment: It costs about $50,000 per year to house, clothe, and feed prisoners in the U.S. And the American taxpayer is paying for it, because elected officials in Washington DC spend money like there is no tomorrow. They don't care, because they don't pay the bill themselves.


Allen Degorf   April 29th, 2010 8:23 pm ET

Larry:

I'm a retired immigration officer. PUHLEEZE don't succumb to the smoke screen being blown about by BOTH parties. Our immigration system is NOT "broken." It's just not being enforced. It could use a bit of tinkering, maybe, but fundamentally there's nothing wrong with it except that the business types have succeeded in avoiding any penalties for hiring the cheap labor that illegal Mexicans represent.

If we got serious about this with hefty fines for those who hire illegals - and NO don't give me the crap about "knowingly" hiring - we wouldn't have to put soldiers all along the border. Why would anyone sneak across if he KNEW he couldn't find work here?

We should establish a program through which we could return any illegal who turned himself in at our expense. No penalties involved, and the illegal could return with whatever visa he could qualify for. The program could run, say, a year. After a year, anybody caught here illegally would be deported and barred from any legal visa for, say, twenty years. NO EXCEPTIONS. (No hasty marriages, no hockey labor certifications, etc.)


Ms D. McGowan   April 29th, 2010 8:28 pm ET

Its nice for all of you who don't live in Arizona to comment on our immigration policy. I have lived in Arizona for 15 years. Maybe if President Obama enforced the federal laws already on the books , Arizona wouldn't have to take such drastic measures . The straw that broke the camels back was a Douglas rancher being murdered by smugglers last month. I bet those of you who live outside of Az didn't know that did you? Why hasn't anyone asked President Calderon of Mexico what he is doing to create jobs for his people in their own country? We have drug cartels, human smuggling/drop houses, drug smuggling, and illegals who create major accidents on our hwy killing both illegal immigrants and US citizens running from the border patrol. We have illegals taking construction jobs and other jobs away from Americans lowering the wages for Americans. There is 10% employment in Arizona at this time. Granted most people want a better life for their families. The only thing we want is for them to come here legally. Why doesn't the federal government issue id cards with microchips similar to our new $100 bills for every citizen and naturalized citizen to prevent fraudulent cards and verify if someone is here legally? The problem isn't racism, it is enforcement of the federal law that the feds haven't enforced. 1/3 of Phoenix's population is hispanic. Obviously, illegal immigrants who don't speak English are going to move into an area where they can blend in with the local Hispanic population and feel comfortable. Our law enforcement community doesn't just go out and pick up people indiscriminately. If they break the law they are subject to arrest like anyone else. If the police stop me I have to show my id and car registration and proof of insurance if I am driving like anyone else. No one has said anything about the cost to Arizona to deport all of the illegals back to Mexico. May be if we charge the Mexican government for the return of every illegal person who is arrested in Az, President Calderon might get the message. May be if you lived here your might understand. President Obama needs to enforce our laws and secure the borders without delay. Maybe if he lived here and smugglers were shooting at him without having a his secret service detail with him he might get it.


p king   April 29th, 2010 8:32 pm ET

Still proud to be an American and would be honored to carry a card identifying me as an American citizen. Let's make it Red White and Blue. Of all the cards I carry in my wallet, I would give it the best spot. The slot with the plastic cover, where I keep my "required" driver's license if I want to drive a car. Go America!!!!


Ivana   April 29th, 2010 8:35 pm ET

We need Arizona law !!!!!! Enough already. Send them back.
People need to wake up!!!!


Awla   April 29th, 2010 8:47 pm ET

There are more than just Hispanic illegals, and not all Hispanics are criminals, there are Russians, Indians, African illegals out there, some of who pay taxes, haven't committed any crimes but yet still suffer because there is no law allowing them to stay with their children who have been raised here and know nothing about their parents country. The children should not have to suffer. If you have a criminal record, dont pay taxes, then yes i agree they do not need to be here. but for the ones that follow the law, whose children are now in college and graduating but cant get a job bc of their status is not right. These are the kids that can make a difference, a positive change for Americas future and their needs to be a path for citizenship for these children and theirs families who actually are in a way a "ideal" family.


Dodie   April 29th, 2010 8:53 pm ET

In a country that is already heavily divided and living in a true dichotomy, comes another breakdown of our ‘un’-enacted laws. In the past, if the federal government enforced the federally mandated immigration laws, we would not be having this problem.

I find it quite ironic that the descendents of those who immigrated to this country and catastrophically dismantled and created genocide of the Native American Culture is now up in arms with current immigrants.


Jim   April 29th, 2010 9:01 pm ET

I want to make something clear I have nothing against legal citizens of our country and I emphasize legal. I am sick and tired of those I see on the news waving signs stating we have rights, yes you do if you are a legal citizen. If you are not a legal citizen you have no rights just like any of us who would cross the border into Mexico, Russa, China or North Korea illegally we would not have any rights. What part of the word illegal do you not understand.

We need to stop this BS of people crossing our Borders at will and automatically getting every benifit we get. We need to take our Military Troups and put them on the Border and put a stop to this. Once we do this then we can talk about immagration reform. Maybe if people took a close look at the problems we are having as a country they would see that a lot of these problems from medical costs to not enough welfare benefits, to Jobs for our own citizens is being caused by Illegal aliens in our country. We put our troops on the Borders just like all of the other major nations do then the probems will stop. The other thing we need to do is tell Mexico to take care of the Drug Cartels or we will and I mean what I say if they can not take care of them then we need to send our troops into mexico and do it ourselves.


JBarrios Wright   April 29th, 2010 9:04 pm ET

Let's not forget that many crossing the border in ARIZONA are INDIGENOUS to that land. AZ has heritage ties to Mexico.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:05 pm ET

Dont send the illegals back send them North .


Linda in Arizona   April 29th, 2010 9:07 pm ET

Thanks, Chad Myers, for explaining the gravity of the oil disaster that is coming to our shores. It must have been difficult for you not to punch that moron sanchez earlier today when he made his outrageously insensitive and stupid joke about "dirty birds" and some idiot football team. I could sense your shock while reeling from my own.


Nancy   April 29th, 2010 9:08 pm ET

The estimate is 10.8 ml illegal Mexicans here. So I guess the law needs to be enforced against illegal Mexicans. It isn't difficult for Arizona's law enforcement to recognize them. It's just the legal Mexicans and Latinos that are making the fuss calling it racial profiling. In other words they condone illegal immigration from the southern border because it is their countrymen. In fact many of these people used the provision of visiting a relative to get here and just never left. Pregnant women came here because their husband had a seasonal migrant job here and had a baby that they now say is legal and a reason for them to stay. They have used every tactic and twisted every law that protects minorities in this country to get to stay. But it is time they leave. My real concern is for the Mexican women and children that are being killed in Mexico and our border towns by the drug cartels. Now they should be protected even if it means giving them political asylum because their lives are in danger. We have a shortage of jobs, doctors, nurses and capital to take care of our people. What about our sick, old and disabled. Do they realize the impact that amnesty would have for 10.8 million more on Medicaid, SSI and all the entitlements they would get.


Luis Teixeira   April 29th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

The immigration is a Human Right, since the begining of the world, no law can stoped, can be controled, but not stoped, the Arizona Law is agains any Human Right, Produce Violence, Hate And Racism agains Hispanic People, is agains the Human Right,....Arizona has the 30% of hispanic population, when The governor, Mcain, and the Sheriff arpaio say that had the 70% we know of who they are talking about, and after that still saying that the law is not profiling....stop please...


gabriella guarguagli   April 29th, 2010 9:11 pm ET

Even right wingers agree this law is wrong, some even compared it with Gestapo times. The good thing: has bring the Immigration debate into the front, when Obama -unfortunately had kept it at the bottom of his priorities to the dismay of the hispanic followers that help put him into the White House. Profiling will never be good, separates and creates tension among groups.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

Take them to a Northern boarder and drop them off Sheriff .


angela   April 29th, 2010 9:12 pm ET

Look, Americans true Americans do not mind giving up liberties for higher purposes, plain and simple. Most Americans are elated and embracing this law, because people are sick of the illegal in illegal.What does this comic know, hell I am the significant other of a foreigner, he would never mind being stopped.


Chaney, La.   April 29th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

The Corp/Bus. that hire the illegal workers should be fined heavily, they thumb their noses at the laws of the land, while exploiting human beings.Why arent these laws being enforced?


Lilarose in So. Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:15 pm ET

I am beyond happy that states are hoping to check for illegals from Mexico. My home town of Medford, Oregon is inundated with them. They are ruining the community and filling the jails because of meth.
East Coasters don't understand what is going on on Interstate 5 every day. These people are running drugs the entire length of the West Coast.

One of them tortured and murdered my two neighbors on December 27, 1979. Two little girls, aged 11. State Medical Examiner told me it was the worst torture he has seen.

For the legal relatives of these illegal Mexicans, you are just as guilty not reporting them when they come into the U.S.


angela   April 29th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

Its a shame there is such a high corrolation between hispanics and being illegal.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

The North is fighting for illegal rights so why dont the North offer sanctuary cities .


Luis Teixeira   April 29th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

Larry...Obama and the congress had only 2 way of fix this, or go to an immigration Reform and fix the problem, of the border and the people that are migrating to Usa, or Forget the problem and is going increase the Violence, the hate and the Racism, abd is going to spread to another states, so we are going to chase any hispanic inside to Usa, and violate all the Rights of this people starting a modern Holocaust agains hispanics an immigrants....what is going to be???


Joseph Esteves   April 29th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

I was stationed in Homestead Air Force Based. Walking to the base from home one morning. Miami Dade Police stops me and says where am I going, mind you in uniform. I said I was going to work and he says you look like someone who is up to something, need I say more. Puerto Rican serving his country and I get this. I know racial profiling when I see it. Shame on you Arizona.


Kim H.   April 29th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

I am so sick about hearing about why the entire Latin community is so offended by this law. They should be offended that Americans have to do this which may at times include Latino Americans. Granted, there is no real way to visibly tell an illegal from an American. Butthe fact of the matter is I am sick of having to wait on instructions on any given phone because of the Spanish message. If you are truly interested in being an American you could at least learn the laws and the language. We don't have this problem with any other immigrant group that comes here. Pack them up and drop them off. As soon as middle class Americans, no matter what nationality they are, make head way, we have these illegals coming in. No other country wants them and won't let them in. Why should we?


Lynn   April 29th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

What about the passengers of the car? Is everyone required to carry identification now?


Ms D. McGowan   April 29th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

I would like to know what all of these so called immigrant rights groups and the ACLU have to say about fixing this problem. The ACLU should be concerned with LEGAL citizens not people who are in our country ILLEGALLY. Illegal immigrants have already broken our law by being in the US. Why should the American taxpayer have to pay court fees for someone who has already broken the law? Make them pay for their own legal defense.
I can see a visa program which we have for migrant workers such as those who come in to pick our produce I don't know of too many Americans who would do that back-breaking work. Again, they need to apply for visa's so their backgrounds can be checked prior to coming into the country.
Have all of you forgotten 9/11 so soon? I am not saying that these people are terrorists. After 9/11 and the recent events such as the Christmas Day bombing suspect who was from Africa, there shouldn't be any question that criminals or terrorists can be from any country.
The Mexican government has lost control of their borders. Juarez alone has thousands of people killed every year. It has gotten so bad that the Mexican military which is probably the least corrupt of all of the Federal agencies has been sent to the borders to act as a deterant.
The drug cartels have deep pockets and can buy off government officals at the expense of their own people and normal citizens being killed.
May be we need to break out the Minutemen organization and deputize them until President Obama can find the money to secure the border. Funny how he finds the money to shore up our banks, and to enact a healthcare bill that most Americans can't afford since they do not have jobs but he can't secure the borders. I find it ironic that we are fighting two wars on terrorism overseas, and we have a huge fight on our southern borders that he is totally ignoring.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

@ GLENN WALDO you will find out in a month or two when you go get gas .


Lorraine Waddell   April 29th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

I only tuned in about 8 minutes ago but my comment is, "If you don't have anything to hide, what does it matter if you are asked for proof?" Unless you have something to hide there shouldn't be concerned, you should be pleased that law enforcement are taking care of its citizens.


orville dash   April 29th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

What about young people who are "carded" for their drinking age. They are asked to show date of birth based entirely on how they appear to a bartender or waitress. Surely folks that are not as well trained as police officers.


Ky'Anne   April 29th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

America has used these people up and now they want to ship back home. They do not care about the families that may be broken up...but then have the nerve to go adopt all these orphans from other countries when there are needy children right here. Why do white people think that the only people that are supposed to eat good is them...like there is not enough to share. White people have historically messed my race of black people up to the point that our children do not know how to work. They tricked us into education, yet give us penny-anny jobs. They got the Mexicans to provide cheap labor, what they once used the black man for and now they want to deport them. This is what happens to every nationality of people who have ever trusted the white man and his shady business...


Steve B.   April 29th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

What you guys are failing to realize is the reason that State's such as California or New Mexico are so upset about Arizona passing state laws to prevent illegal immigration: That is the illegals will then move to their state. California is upset because if Arizona and then Texas and the other more conservative States pass these laws, the illegal aliens will flood into their State and drain even more their financial stability and increase government costs and reduce the tax base.


GREG   April 29th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

What you need to ask all those who oppose the Arizona law is "under what circumstances is it okay for America to enforce its immgration laws?" If they give you a bunch of double talk about comprehensive immigration reform (read AMNESTY, OPEN BORDERS, GUEST WORKER) then you should dismiss whatever they have to say. The fact is that these people are not really concerned with profiling or racism they are afraid that we will actually find illegals and deport them.

Furthermore if they want to be Americans they better get used to racial profiling. Profiling is illegal I hear but if you are a black man like me you learn to live with it or get your head busted or worse if you protest too loud.


Jamie   April 29th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

This is ridiculous! They way I understand this is that no one will be asked to prove anything UNLESS they have already broken a law. I don't think anyone Latino harmlessly walking down the street will be stopped. Only if they break a law first, and then in the course of questioning it they will be asked to prove their legality. Bottom line – you break a law.. you better be a citizen. If you don't break the law, you have nothing to worry about!


Bryan   April 29th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

Because a group of Muslims flew planes into buildings in N. Y. and killed 3000 people.....I now have to be screened at airports and at times pulled aside for further pat down. Does this violate my Civil Rights? I don't think so. So what's the problem with this new law in Arizona??


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:19 pm ET

Because the feds are sitting on there butts doing nothing and people are mad as hell .


Keith   April 29th, 2010 9:20 pm ET

I am from Canada and have a 'green card'!
I was told to never leave home without it by the USCIS!
I am middle age and white – I carry it at "ALL" times!


Toni   April 29th, 2010 9:20 pm ET

If you don't like our American laws go back to Mexico!!!!


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

Let the us up North help bare the burden .


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:21 pm ET

As usual, everyone speaking out against the Arizona law, misstates what the law says. How come the Mexicans don't have a problem with Americans having to have their passports at all times in Mexico. As a visitor, I wouldn't want to take a chance not having my passport with me in Mexico! What is the big deal and please tell me what the difference is?


Alfred Sole   April 29th, 2010 9:22 pm ET

Hi
It would be nice to hear the other side, Sheriff Arpaio claims is all fair, but the problem is that illegals cannot complain or accuse any abuse.
Carlos is not the right person to be in your show. He is a comedian.
We need to solve the problem for good, not just temporarily. If we want that undocumented people follow the rules, we need to remove the big ILLEGAL label of their faces.
Also, of course we profile all the time.


Ron   April 29th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Am wondering if the Sheriff presently being interviewed can reach into his pocket and pull out a document that proves he is a US citizen.


LacrosseMom(the real one)   April 29th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

To answer those who say "We are a nation of legal immigrants" I beg to differ. When the Pilgrims landed the Mayflower, the Native People did not have an immigration office! We, Europeans, proceeded to kill and take the land we call the United States today. That's the TRUTH.

Secondly, no I do not live in Arizona, but I live nearby, here are some FACTS: "According to data from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, violent crimes in ARIZONA FELL from 512 per 100,000 to 447 per 100,000 in 2005. Although the undocumented immigrant population DOUBLED to about 12 million from 1994 to 2004 data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics indicates that the violent crime rate in the U.S. DECLINED during this time by...35.1%...... and property crime FELL by 25.0%" – U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics.

SO....... CRIME FELL in Arizona. SR 1070 is a throw back to Jim Crow Laws. This law singles out Latinos, period.


Tamara   April 29th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Considering the fact that drug and people trafficers bring many people over to this country as basically slaves, I don't mind showing my i.d. Slavery is NEVER OK! Using a state in my country as a slavery route is an abomination. That is why I am glad this law passed.


Triny   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

"Is this racist?" This is ridiculous. The state of AZ is only enforcing a FEDERAL law!! Why this is even being debated baffles me. If people want to come to this country they need to do it LEGALLY! There is a right way and a wrong way to do things regardless of if the system is flawed. Illegal is illegal, PERIOD!!


Betty   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

Mexico and Canada are our neighborys what is anyone doing to make it better in Mexico so these people dont feel the need to make a desperate choice to cross over here. They dont want to they need to. Why not work on this?


JERRY COLBURN   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

I'm 66.
I carried a draft card beginning with my 16th birthday. Failure to carry the card violated the law, with a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison. That's why it took courage to burn a card during Vietnam protests. But nobody protested carrying the card, or the penalty for not having it, till Vietnam.
We have to produce ID all the time, and part of the privilege of getting a green card is the responsibility to carry and show it when asked by the police.
The problems of the Third World will not be solved by having its people swamp the US.
We already have more than we can assimilate.
I want the US to remain essentially the same country into which I was born in 1943, when most of the men in my family were fighting for much the same reason.
NB 9 Carry Trade Fox news cites 73% of economists as rating Obama recovery a failure because no job gain, but they don’t explain how the banks repaid without loaning to biz to hire,


alex   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

why would Mr. King have CarlosMencia as a guest?I love Carlos he is great at what he does,however there should have been somone more prepared and educated to discuss this issue with the sheriff from AZ..So if CNN is gonna have this discussion nationwide again Please Please have someone that has a higher knowledge of the situation next time to represent us..Thank You..


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

The Republicans controlled the congress and the White house for some 8 years and DID NOTHING about the illegal immigration problem because it suited the Republican special interests to do so.

Now with virtually all of their factory's overseas to use child and slave labor with virtually no unions nor child labor laws to effect their corporate bottom line, they are complaining about illegal immigrates cheap labor which competes against Republican lawmakers funded by American corporations producing their products in China, South Korea, South America, Taiwan, India and Japan.


Lisa Gordon   April 29th, 2010 9:25 pm ET

This is obviously racial profiling! I haven't heard anyone mentioning the steps being taken if the illegal ISN'T as visible (Eastern or Western European, or Canadian)?


Janet Rosenberg-Herrera   April 29th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Based on my surname, Rosenberg-Herrera (maiden-married), I'm not sure whether to carry my birth certificate or pin a yellow Star of David on my sleeve. I foolishly believed that this level of racism ended with the defeat of the Nazis...et tu Arizona?


Sjjg   April 29th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

What if when this new law SB1070 is passed they stop a family who’s children who are citizens of the united states and the parents aren't. What will happen to these children or to these parents??

Instead of it being 5 illegal Immigrants what will happen to these 2?


Jimmy   April 29th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

What is going to happen to the spouse and children of illegal's that are caught and detained? Are the Police going to raid the house and deport the entire family?


Kate Carpenter   April 29th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

First of all, "profiling" is not a corrupt concept – it's the science of statistical probability.

Secondly, if I'm driving a vehicle, I can be stopped at any time at a traffic checkpoint. My license, my registration, my insurance, my car's inspection, my criminal record, and my sobriety are all subject to criminal inspection. Should I whine because drivers are being targeted but pedestrians are allowed to, for instance, walk around drunk in public with open containers? Is this prejudiced...racist..Nazi??


Yvette   April 29th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Larry why not ask Sheriff Arpaio why he hates his people so much? Isn't he of Mexican descent? He sure looks it.


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Support the Boycott of the entire State of Arizona, its tourism, business's, convention centers and the products Arizona's business's produce.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:27 pm ET

I would like to hear from the two boarder patrol officers that spent two years in prison doing there job .


Jeanne   April 29th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

This reminds me of the Nazi Germany.


Tyler   April 29th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

This law is outrageous-this country is a land of immigrants!!!


Linda in Arizona   April 29th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

So, Carlos, you are an American citizen. Why are you so against helping and cooperating with law enforcement to enforce the immigration laws of your country?


angela   April 29th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

How can anyone come out against profiling regarding its effectiveness? We dont do it, so how can anybody criticize its potential. If all these so called Americans are so terrified of being stopped then they are not willing to either trust their country, the authorities and are a bit spineless and selfish. The law is absolutely disregarded and its a huge mess now reigning it in. Everyone pissing and moaning about being a target like a bunch of cry babies, but we have to put our guys on the front line every day. Gimme a break!!!!


Mary Sharpe   April 29th, 2010 9:28 pm ET

Carlos has made millions profiling and making fun of retarded people and orientals. I've attended his comedy shows. I'm suprised that you would bring someone like him on your show.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Contrary to what the Obama administration thinks, this is not racism. It is only taking place because the administration refuses to protect the border. Why is it fair to Americans to have to live in their state with fear of being kidnapped or killed by these illegals? We love immigrants and welcome them if they come through the front door and aren't bringing drugs into the country. How is their way fair to all the immigrants before them that have followed the law and done it the right way? We have many, many Vietnamese, Chinese, Mexicans, Latinos, etc. that have gone through the proper channels to stay in this country and why should a bunch of lawbreakers jump ahead of the ones that are still trying to come here the legal way. Do you think for one minute that Mexico would put up with Americans not following their laws????


Bryan   April 29th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

If immigrant is here legally and hasn't committed a crime....then they have nothing to worry about.

Not all immigrants are dark skinned. In California, Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Florida and New Mexico it's the hispanic community which is the biggest offender and that's why the hispanic community is screaming the loudest!


Chris   April 29th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

No it's not racist. Not unless law breakers are a protected class?

US has laws regarding entering our nation why is it ok to ignore them and why is it considered racism to ask folks to prove their legal status when asked by a law official.

If I was in someone elses country I would abide by their laws and expect to prove myself when requested- it THEIR LAW!!


Vocal Citizen   April 29th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

There is a stark indication that current U.S. drug policy is having a direct impact on our country. Northern Mexico is a drug war battle zone. It's no wonder hard-working people illegally cross our borders. They're looking for the jobs they can't find in their own country. We should take responsibility for our country's demand for illicit drugs and extend a neighborly hand to Mexico to help boost their economy and number of viable jobs.
Sensible U.S. drug policy reform can make a difference. Demand the federal government takes steps to separate honest undocumented workers from unregulated drug markets. The answer? REGULATION AND CONTROL


Julie   April 29th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

I am an American citizen and lived and worked in Mexico for 10 years legally I paid taxes and had paperwork to live and work there. What makes it different here than there........I was asked for my paperwork more than 100 times while I lived there and it did not bother me at all why is this so different.


Nadina   April 29th, 2010 9:31 pm ET

It really saddens me that a country founded on immigration would have all of this apparent hate towards new immigrants. For example, where did the grandparents or great grandparents of the people who passed the law come from? It may have not been Mexico, but it was from some other land, because that is how this country was created.

All of these Americans that complain about immigrants need to go and spend a week in a 3rd world country. Then they would realize why immigrants come here for a better life, and maybe they could be more accepting of them.

The discrimination and hatred in this country against immigrants is unfounded and needs to stop.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Why did you fasly imprison the border patrol officers Gonzolis .


Stacy Zlotkin   April 29th, 2010 9:32 pm ET

This comment is for the sheriff. The reason why Illegal immigrants come to the states to work is because Americans think they are too good for low paying jobs. I feel that if Americans took whatever job they could to put food on the table & keep roofs over the heads of their families, ths may stop the illegal immigrants.


Cathy ODell   April 29th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Illegal immigrants have taken a huge toll on our country, and particularly our border states. It is time to take back our country and get rid of these tax dollar sucking pests. Just try to get into a hospital emergency room or try to place your child in a class that isn't crowded up with illegals' children, who don't even respect our country enough to learn English.


Betty   April 29th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Alot of these commets on here are very heartless.


Steven   April 29th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

What does the word "illegal" mean? Is theft illegal? Is fraud illegal? Is discrimination illegal?

If a person of any race is in the US against the law they are commiting a crime, and should be arrested, detained, and prosecuted just like they would be for any other crime. It seems the Hispanic Racists in this country want to act as if illegal entry is legal. But as I understand the law it is impartial and applies to any person of any race that is illegal in the US, Afro, Euro Asian, Indian, Hispanic.


Angela Savage Austin   April 29th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Larry please ask your guest this question...if the illegals that enter this country is breaking the law and the people..(.private citizens and companies) that hire them is breaking the law...wouldn't one conclude that the police can enter homes and businesses who employ illegals as being a reasonable suspicion.. to enter these home and businesses and arrest the homeowners and businessmen. You and I know that this is where the law is not fair or legal...discrimination is the word. This law will not apply to white people who breaks the law.


Stacy   April 29th, 2010 9:33 pm ET

Larry the comic you have on this evening is just a comic! Who gives him the right to speak for all Americans? If Arizona did not have a problem with illegal immigrants the law would not have been passed – the Sherriff had some solid facts for the comic – murderers, lost jobs, a strain on the economic conditions on the state, a hundred persons in jail in the area the Sheriff is located. The comic blew a lot of smoke not facts.
What were the comic's thoughts and pres conferences before he became an American citizen – Comic do us all a favour and keep your night job – it's too bad if your feelings were hurt by being stopped.
If the comic does not like the state that is attempting to protect him – leave town and take his thoughts and hurt feelings with him.


RickFromDetroit   April 29th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Immigration – How to fight

The way to fight immigration is from the inside out. To do this we need a National ID Card.

[1] Connect the state driver license computers to a central database in Washington, D.C.
[2] Tie all credit, debit, Social Security, Driver License’, passports, etc. to the National ID Card.
[3] Require fingerprints and a digital picture on the National ID Card.
[4] Merge the National ID Card with Homeland Security.
[5] Update all credit and debit retail businesses, gas stations, government buildings, workplaces, etc., to accept the National ID Card complete with the digital picture ID and fingerprint reader.

Benefits: Once the system is fully operational an immigration crackdown can be randomly performed by Homeland Security. Very simple, Homeland Security issues a level five domestic crackdown and all businesses must require a National ID Card for any transaction even cash. This would make something as simple as buying groceries or filling the gas tank a major inconvenience and would be a deterrent to people coming into the US illegally and would also assist law enforcement in capturing fugitives and finding missing persons. Since this law would apply to everyone, there would not be any “profiling”.

Other Benefits:
[1] Identity theft. A web cam and fingerprint reader could be connected to a PC and used to identify individuals.
[2] Online banking and shopping.
[3] With all credit and debit cards linked to the National ID Card, stolen card would be a thing of the past.
[4] Online access to confidential records like Social Security, Medicare, Driver License, etc. would be secure.
[5] Medicare Fraud could be prevented by requiring a National ID Card for all medical services.
[6] Airline security would be easier to monitor.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

@ Betty So are the acts of illegals killing people .


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

How ironic Attorney Gonzales that illegally gave the green light for TORTURE on civilians that were kidnapped and placed into rendition by the CIA is being asked if Arizona's State Law is constitutional or not.

His previous track record is certainly a large determinate of his lack of following constitutional laws.


fedup   April 29th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

Larry,
Why is it ok for Israel to practice the worst form of racism everyday for 50 years against those from Palestine and you never do a show about that and everyone is up in arms when Jimmy Carter tells the truth that Israel is practicing aparteid, yet when Arizonia tries to protect their borders and their tax dollars you do a show and everyone is against Arizonia for trying to balance their budget, yet Israel gets 3 billion a year to be racist
double standard???????????/


JERRY COLBURN   April 29th, 2010 9:35 pm ET

I'm 66.
I carried a draft card beginning with my 16th birthday. Failure to carry the card violated the law, with a maximum penalty of 5 years in prison. That's why it took courage to burn a card during Vietnam protests. But nobody protested carrying the card, or the penalty for not having it, till Vietnam.
We have to produce ID all the time, and part of the privilege of getting a green card is the responsibility to carry and show it when asked by the police.
The problems of the Third World will not be solved by having its people swamp the US.
We already have more than we can assimilate.
I want the US to remain essentially the same country into which I was born in 1943, when most of the men in my family were fighting for much the same reason.
(unrelated note deleted)


Kathy Duffy   April 29th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I agree with Arizona. If I get stopped I have to show 3 pieces of paper. My drivers license, registration and insurance card, should I get upset? It isn't racist. It is tuff enough getting by with out having to pay for the illegal immigrants. If they want to come into our country, then do it the right way. If I would move to Mexico, I would learn the language and become a citizen.


SoniaHowell   April 29th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I don't understand why the mexicans are getting so upset about having to prove their citizanship. Hell I was born and raised here but, When I get pulled over I have to provide Drivers licens and SS# . Hell when I get signed up for food stamps I have to provide Birth certificates, SS cards, rent receipts, light bills, phone bills, and so on. My point is that I have to prove my verfication every three months Lived in Tennessee all my life. Hell if they are here be proud to prove yourself and not be so offended about it!!!!!!!!!! That is what we are about. Able and Proud to be an american. Know our laws before you come to our country.


john   April 29th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

I support the law in arizona. If your doing something wrong and your stopped by a police officer, you have to show proper id. you can't and your in the country ilegally, your out. It all boils down, ilegals are here
ilegally!!! there breaking the law.
The ER rooms here in california are on ther verge of diaster because of all the uninsured ilegals getting medical attention. It must stop here with this bill and hopefully others like it.


Dracky   April 29th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

New blood is one thing but, I have to tell Carlos Mencia that I love his mind not necessarily his ethics. Iliegal immigrants are stealing my benefits that I paid for. I live in Ca. & " The Terminated " succeeded in terminating my Federal Relief,extracted $45.@month from my disability


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:36 pm ET

Maybe all the illegals will go to California and Oregon to live, bet they would love that! This guy in SF will speak one way and have a very different view if they all show up on SF doorsteps!


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

@ Smith I agree he needs to go hide his head in the dirt .


Eugene   April 29th, 2010 9:37 pm ET

Does a human being get to pick the color of their skin or the country they are born in?

Maybe if Americans had to live under some of the same conditions that folks in third world countries do they would be more understanding of immigrants.

Immigrants just come here for a better life and to do the work that Americans are too lazy to do.


Mark in Arizona   April 29th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

I wish everyone would keep in mind that not all democrat hispanics are against this. I for one feel that the situation has gotten so out of hand that any solution is better than continuing to do nothing. If the Federal Government will not help U.S. citizens after being repeated asked for assistance, then things obviously have to be addressed at the state level.

By the way, I am a third generation Mexican American / registered democrat / Arizona native and I support this bill.


Pamela   April 29th, 2010 9:38 pm ET

Reason why I support SB1070. I moved from Santa Fe, NM to Arizona in 1999. I felt likie I was being suffocated by the over crowding of illegals, and to see the buses parked at hte National Guard Park to ship them back was just to much for me. Know 10yrs later Arizona is being suffocated with to many illegals who want free everything from medical, housing and to drive up our unemployment. I can kiss goodbye to my Social Security because there won't any left for my generation. I can not go to any country without papers.....


Donna   April 29th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Does anyone undestand that Illegal Immigrants are ILLEGAL !! They are breaking the law. They have no Civil rights because they are not here legally. What is so hard to understand. If we, Americans, break the law we are punished.....No one is saying that these people should not be here we are saying that we should not have to push "1" for English in our own country. They are leaving their country to come here for better lives yet they are trying to filth our country the way theirs is. Why not try all this protest stuff in Mexico see how far they get. They come here to be Americans – Get here legally and ACT like one.

You go Gov.Brewer,don't bow down to them. Your state believes in you and so do we. You are our HERO !!!!!!!! Hopefully Texas gets the hint. I believe they will because they are always for us...The AMERICAN people.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Go after drug criminals and then get thrown in prison for doing there job right .


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

Arizona's State Immigration law is like candy to a bigoted, corrupt and racist police officer. They'll eat it up and cause enormous problems to the residents of Arizona. In turn the city they represent will be sued to the brink of bankruptcy.


Thomas PS   April 29th, 2010 9:39 pm ET

How can Larry King have a comedian debate Sheriff Arapaio? King is stacking the deck against immigrants. And when Carlos Mencino says, "he supports the arrest of illegals, but what about people like him" he is doing damage to the debate. Mecino DOES not represent the immigrant voice. We need someone who knows the LAW to debate the Sheriff of Maricopa. This is not only a racial profiling issue for citizens....all people regardless of their legal status deserve basic human rights. This is where Araipio mispoke. Immigrants do not enter the judicial courts. Their cases are decided by administrative courts without defense attorneys or basic guarantees to a fair trial (and in some cases they don't even get that when they are immediately deported)! Will the new law provide immigrants with rights in the courts? Will they now have a chance to plead their case?
Also, this is a waste of resources.


Teri in New Jersey   April 29th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

I really don't think this bill was created to negate anyones rights. The crimes that are being committed by immigrants and U.S. citizens driven by the drug trade are worse than anything I ever thought could happen. Do those victims get any say in this? Do their families? It is definitely a tool that is desparetly needed to help fight the war on drugs. Isn't there a way to apply to come into this country that would provide an immigrant support and legal entry? Anything that is law now can be used in a negative way. Law does not govern behavior. A person with legitimate reasons to be here will be fine. Drug runners and human traffickers is not. The law abiding people need more protection now than ever. Don't we all know someone who is struggling with an horrific drug problem that has cost their family and friends dearly. Not to mention ruining the persons life. All this while the traffickers are getting richer than my wildest dreams. Another problem in this country is how high the unemployment rate is for teens and college students. The illegal immigrants who take those jobs from our young people are sending all those dollars south. Not good for our Country either. We have to start with something. Desparate acts call for desperate measures. This is a strong tool that law enforcement need so lets see how it works. With all this fuss do you think it will be abused any more than any other law?


Amber   April 29th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Our Federal Govt is doing nothing about the foreign invasion that is happing in our country. I live in Arizona and I am fully supportive of the new immigration law. Illegals are draining our resources, and our crime rate is sky rocketing. Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the US. Thankfully we have a governor who is brave enough take a stand. Thank you Jan Brewer!


Attilio Di Marco   April 29th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Most other countries have national ID card that everyone is required to show to a law enforcement officer , even without cause. I have to do that in my native country, Italy. Latin Americans are required to have a national ID card in their countries.
The illegals are mainly Hispanics, so they need to bear the consequences. When has done nothing illegal, one should not have a problem carrying and showing ID.


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

End America's failed War on Drugs and much of these perceived problems in Arizona will disappear nearly immediately.


Paul Lancaster   April 29th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Richardson is against the Arizona law because he KNOWS if it works well there, his own state, New Mexico, will be buried in these illegal guys.


george   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Driver's license or state issued IDs do not prove citizenship. Does this mean US citizens have to travel to Arizona with passports to prove citizenship when asked??


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

As Americans we have to prove who we are everyday whether it is being stopped for a ticket or applying for a job, or filling out loan applications etc. What crybabies? The bottom line is if you are doing nothing wrong, then don't worry, you will be fine. The Mexicans don't want to follow the same laws but they want rights in this country, you can't have it both ways!


fedup   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Hi SJJG
What about the children in Palestine when their parents are taken from them, in their own land?

Where are your tears for them?
The children born in the usa from illegal parents should not be citizens of the usa as they were probably conceived in Mexico and the parents came here illegally, so they should all be shipped back and allowed to come here with and only with the proper papers and visasa
we are broke and it is called tough love


Jane - WI   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

Bravo for Sheriff Arpaio. He is doing a great job.
It's unfortunate that Arizona and other states feel the need to enact these laws since our federal government is ignoring the problem. Illegal is illegal. You find an employer hiring these illegals, you arrest them. You find an employee who has crossed our border illegally, you arrest them and send them back home. It's real simple.
Illegal is illegal. With the high unemployment in our country there is no excuse for hiring an illegal.


phyllis dalton   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

If we were in Mexico and was pulled over we had better have some
kind on papers or go to jail and hope like hell we get out. I am white and I am sure they would pull me over,but you are in an other country.
so if you are pulled over in the usa deal with IT!!!!!!


n king   April 29th, 2010 9:41 pm ET

this az law is a front, there will still be illegal immgnts; az needs to beef up their employment laws; the smugglers will now be "selective smugglers" as a form of organized crime. the media will be fed numbers to report based on the non-selective smugglers, we will never hear about the ones that were hired at the hotels, casinos, mansions, etc brought in by the "selective smugglers".


RickFromDetroit   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Throwing 11 million people out of the country will be counter productive to economic growth and job creation because we will have 11 million less consumers.


Herreras   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

I as a Mexican understand coming over to have a better life, but realize as a state of retirees' can not keep flipping the bills for hospitals, education system and taking all the carts at the price club. If Mexico would reimburse Arizona I would have no problem. My family too have migrated from Mexico and are Tucson Natives and pioneers. They have never been on social services or been involved in drugs or criminal activity. I believe this is a proactive attempt to accommodate our tax paying citizens, After all, whats next? Pulling over every Snowbird, for not paying state income taxes?


George   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

The federal authority is not doing thier job period that is why the state of Arizona made this law. They are here illegally and are not immigrants. Take the legal path no problem but as for illegals get them out. The people against this are failing to understand the size of the problem.


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

I am an American citizen, born & raised in the USA & a veteran.
I look latina. I am VERY concerned about this new Arizona law & the potential or possible propensity it contains within it to help facilitate racial profiling, especially considering that other states are considering this implementing law or one like it.
Judges need to consider the truth that this law opens the door for unnecessary harassment, when they review this case.
I am aware of the immigration problems & concede that there is a problem that needs to be addressed in this area however, there must be a better way than opening up Legal American citizens for undue harassment.
And what about the children who are mixed in the united states or young adults who are mixed? And what about others of various Latina nationality who were born in the USA? What happens to them when some trigger happy racist police officer gets the go ahead from this law to harass, intimidate, & terrorize people? And please don' t tell me they don't exist, as this is just untrue.


Charles   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

@Mark in Arizona,
Your comments are refreshing and thanks for standing up for what is right. You won't get help from the federal government as long as they think Mexican Americans or Hispanics are opposed to this bill. They are too worried about votes. Some things never change.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

The Governor needs to continue with her bill until some one comes up with a better plan .


Ingrid from CA   April 29th, 2010 9:43 pm ET

I'm Salvadorean American and my husband is mexican. We have two daughters. One is dark skin with brown eyes and one is light skin with blue eyes. How do I explain to my dark skinned daughter why they are asking her for proof of citzenship and not her sister? She clearly looks hispanic and if she's in a car with other people that they may suspect are here illegally, how do I as a mother explain that to them? I'm sorry but this really bothers me because it makes it seem like it's better to be anything but Latino at this time. I want to teach them to be proud of who they are.


suzanne lehman   April 29th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

I'm concerned about the vagueness of the Ariz. immigration bill. As a result of my concerns, I've been listening to debates on this issue. I have heard several interviewers ask proponents of this bill, what is "reasonable suspicion" without getting an answer and in fact responses deflect from the question. No interviewer I've heard has pressed this issue of "reasonable suspicion", without an equal understanding of the words in the bill or meaning of the bill, how can we even know what behavior is illegal. This is totally frustrating to me. It seems simple, as a start to understand what indeed is "reasonable suspicion". If this question can't be answered how can you expect there to be any uniformity in the enforcement of such a bill!?


angela   April 29th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

General Gonzalez is making perfect sense, listen to him. He is able to sift through reality and idealism and is drawing reasonable, employable conclusions. There must be give on BOTH sides. Americans have given generously for a long time. Let the Hispanic population step up and make a sacrifice now to help the situation.


Sandy   April 29th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

If you don’t like these people stop eating their food, just recognize that they are good people and hard working, they bring food to our tables, clean our houses, cut our grass, etc.

Lets stop being selfish and let some of these people have some of the rights. They are Human and deserve a chance too.

Love, Peace

God Bless


Jane - WI   April 29th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

It's amazing how many people (at the instigation of the media) believe it is only Republicans who are for this bill in Arizona. Most polls show that opposition to illegal immigration cuts across party lines. 70% of Arizona residents like the bill. 60% of the country at large approves of it. What part of that makes the mainstream media portray this as simply racist, bigots who are "oppressing" the poor minorities?
illegal is illegal. If you don't respect our laws, you pay the price. go home and get in line to come here the legal way as millions of others do.


rj   April 29th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

they are taking advantage of a recession… the thought of local police chekpointing latino people many of whom are of native American ancestry as well is the ultimate injustice possible after all these generations. What are we trying to do –are we still fighting the Spanish- American and Mexican- American wars ?
(and the Indian Removal ?) where the racism really comes in is that this type of harassment enabling law is not going to be practiced against all types of illegal entrants (those from canada, australia, Europe, asia ,) in the Northeast– and only in the Southwest against perceived Mexicans.


Patrick   April 29th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

Gov Richardson you backed this black liberation president for presidency, so why don't you ask him to start protecting America by supporting the new Az law and yes pass legislation on immigartion, including building a bigger much bigger wall. Hell I'll help build the wall. Put unemployed Americans to work and those aliens that come here and end up in jail make them build the wall too as punishment. Sheriff arpaio Is Americas cop and rightfully so. This Carlos the joker is a racial profiler himself. He was implimg that whites from 18 to 50 are serial killers and others gave stated that he has made fun of the mentally I'll and Asians. Larry please please don't invite this guy Carlos on the show again. These Hispanics are like alot of minorities and are crying "discrimination" and poor me. It's disgusting. They just want to sue , that's all.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:45 pm ET

If you want to stay in this country, then do it the legal way and pay income taxes and social security. It is not sufficient to only pay sales tax, sorry! Our country is going broke and we simple can not even afford our citizens. I love all people but we cannot let illegal immigration continue.


Navajo Joe   April 29th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

First I wish to say hello again to many I have had the opportunity to get to know on these blogs before.

While it is true we live in a country of immigrants, we as a nation, have quickly forgotten how that came to pass. Like Dodie has stated above, it was at the hands of many who came to the land inhabited by native Indians, now Native Americans, who were slaughtered and driven onto mere parcels of land located in the most remote areas of what was once their homeland.

As one of those labeled Native American I, as well as, all who have dark skin and dark hair with accents of a native language they learned as small children will again be profiled and possibly imprisoned for the way they appear.

It was very easy to herd us onto reservations, penned up, and in the past forbidden to leave because we were not of the origin of those who came to this land looking for a better way of life. The result of that was to isolate and separate the Native Americans from those who immigrated into what was once our land of opportunity. With them they brought slaves who also had dark skin and the accents from other lands. They until 1964 did not have even their basic rights.

While my family members, our neighbors, our people joined the Armed Forces of the United States of America to protect and defend this whole nation, we are still today looked upon as a foreign entity inside of its boundaries. I consider myself as an American, as well as, a Native American. I too have put on a uniform to stand and fight for all that is considered American in the Constitution written to preserve and protect the ideals of a free society. While there are laws written to secure the borders of this country, they are still those across its borders who were also, by ancestral heritage, linked to this country.

It is a difficult decision and process for the Federal Government to protect the lines drawn in the sand, it is 'their' responsibility.

When I put on my uniform, it didn't have a flag of Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas or any the states that border Canada on on it. I never saluted those flags their state flags either. I proudly saluted a flag with 50 stars and 13 red and 13 white stripes on it.

Yes, of course, protect our border America, do not ever allow individual states to take that away from you. To do so that flag which all my people salute with have less stars and not have the bright future that we all want for ourselves.

To the law enforcement agencies of the southern states bordering Mexico and those on the border of Canada preserve the laws and the people of your states, arrest those who violate your state laws, but do not enact laws within the Constitution of your states that will divide us all.

Again I wish to extend my best wishes and get to talk once again to all I have had the pleasure of getting to know on these blogs.


Janet Horning   April 29th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

This country is never going to be the way it was 50 or more years ago due to different circunstances hapening. I think the state has the right idea and mayby the bill will have to be revised but they have to start somewhere. In Eurpoe you always must have your ID with you in the event that you are stopped for some reason. If you are going to come into this country, come in by the front door and not by the back door. Illegal immigration is wrong and there are consequences for everything that you do wrong.


R.E. Richards   April 29th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

Larry! I have a vision of boarded-up trains being loaded with illegal immigrants (women & children included) under the supervision of armed guards/police, that will be taking this mass of humanity to certain destitution, famine and death! Haven't we learned from the past...has America lost it's soul?? Weren't there existing laws fhat would have humanily taken care Arizona's problems? R.E.R.


JERRY COLBURN   April 29th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

A large percentage of Arizonans are Hispanic.

Even if the police did all the things the witch-hunt people accuse them of wanting to do, the police could profile only a tiny part of the Hispanic population.

In other words, the accusations of intended racial profiling and "racism" are mathematically impossible, and therefore, stupid.

Our political culture has lost its capacity to process both ideas and reality, in favor of negative gut reactions and ceremonies instead of solutions. It has no reserve of positive knowledge to solve real problems.


T.B.   April 29th, 2010 9:46 pm ET

For all the people that are for this law:

Hopefully Mexico will pass a similar law against Americans so when we start immigrating there to work (since that is where all our jobs are going) you will be subjected to the same treatment these immigrants are being subject to now! Maybe then you'd feel differently about this law and what these people are being subjected to!


Teri in New Jersey   April 29th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

And if a woman crosses the border just in time to give birth to that naturalized citizen and we do nothing then we are discriminating against all other women who live in countries where that could never happen. Nothing if fair to everyone. But there must be rules for all. Not exceptions for fear of being seen as racist.


Jane - WI   April 29th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

Awai,
These children of illegals could also do good in their own country. If they are educated and could make things better, all the more reason to send them home to improve life in their own homeland. If they decide they want to be a US citizen, they can always get in line to come here the right way.


fedup   April 29th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

No Jeanne
the usa and arizonia are not nazi for protecting their borders, but
Israel is for herding Palestinians in a sepearte line

We are not asking illegals to be in a seperate line, but when they get pulled over for speeding and have no id, they should be detained just like I would be if I had no id and no proof of insurance
Calif is broke because of illegals and the rest of the states are next

My children have to show id and provide proof of citenship when they apply for college loans and we were all born here and have lived here since birth and were born of legal parents and grandparents that all came here legally
it is called the law, not racism
grow up


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:47 pm ET

The federal government dont want them to be legal .


susan   April 29th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

As to whether the Arizona law is constitutional, Larry should recap what the law says and then apply the constitutional analysis through his very talented and knowledgable guests. A law isin't unconstitutional just because we don't like it. It may, however, be unconstitutionally vague on it's face or unconstitutional by it's application (which is why we might have to wait to see if the cops profile using this law as an excuse). This is serious business. I think Larry's viewers are sophisticated enough to understand a little more of the legal analysis.-From the Evergreen State and yes we have MANY immigrants here as well.


Dede Vandyke   April 29th, 2010 9:48 pm ET

On Larry King tonight, Governor Bill Richardson suggests a Federal Immigration policy that requires, among other things, that those illegals already here "go to the back of the line". The problem is, the back of the line for illegals allows them to serve that time in the U.S., while those ahead of them in the line must serve their waiting time in their Country of Origin.

Of course racial profiling will be paramount because the vast number of illegals are from Mexico, Central and South America. The desire is an open border.


Jean   April 29th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Arizona Immigration Bill is unfair. I do recognize that America has a problem with illegal immigrants who cross its the borders from Mexico. Why does not America protect its borders and more appropriately? If these borders were properly protected and were under surveillance this would not have happened. Due to the negligence of US patrol or non-existence of same this situation has occurred and is continuing to occur. Why blame the illegal immigrants? They have seen an opportunity to migrate and they have embraced it, specifically the honest ones who want jobs.
All God's children. People have a right to eat, and to be housed. If they are not able to do so in their countries, obviously, they will seek other alternatives in another country. Every country of the world has this problem. Strangely, even the poorest ones.
In my simple terms another solution is that what is the Mexican government doing about its nationals who are in need of and who want to work? In order to eliminate this illegal situation which appears to generate from Mexico, why can't the US government write the Mexican government and inform it to properly feed and house its nationals that they may not find it necessary to cross its borders to the US. Let us not be too diplomatic about this situation. Tell it like it is. Does this not make sense?
Such a head of the government as the one in Mexico live in a government mansion which is lavishly furnished and are well-fed. They could give up their lavish lifestyle to assist the poor of Mexico.
The US and other progressive governments as Canada and Europe financially assist those governments for the purpose of assisting thier nationals. What are they doing with the money? Shame on those governments of the world who do not assist their nationals as Mexico. The day will come when they will render to God their failure to assist their nationals who are in dire need of.


Diane   April 29th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

What about the illegals here from other countries such as Canada, etc? They should be looked at as part of the law,


Georgie   April 29th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Bottomline racial profiling is illegal, I get the AZ gov reasons, but I get MORE our American & Human rights being PRIORITY!!


Robert   April 29th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

KICK THEM OUT!!! Illegal aliens BROKE our laws by sneaking into our country and they are no more important or special than anyone who is currently going through legal naturalization processes at present. They are a drain on our state level economies and infrastructures and every one of them not only needs to get to the back of the line but they need to be made to leave period and start over from scratch! Enough is ENOUGH and being as the federal government decided not to enforce the laws on the books it falls to the states to do it for themselves.


DD   April 29th, 2010 9:49 pm ET

1) If it's a federal matter why isn't the federal gov't enforcing the existing laws?
2) Illegal immigrants of EVERY race are in the US, how can you call this racial profiling? If Arizona law enf. is going to ask people...have them ask everybody. I have no problem proving I'm a US citizen.
3) There are already laws on the books that state adults are to carry identification when in public, I really don't care if someone is inconvenienced by the fact that they left home without their i.d.
4) If so many people are ok with choosing not to enforce immigration law, what other laws are they ok with ignoring? Do I get to choose one too? I didn't know it was an option.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

Maybe all the celebrities and comedians would like to shell out all the money that the illegals are costing the US? If they would like to I am sure the US could work out something for them.


jeremy   April 29th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Why do we feel the need too go after the people that are trying too better there lives . Why dont we make the puninshment for the companys that imploy illegal employees more severe. If they didntnt have a reason too comer here . wouldnt that solve the problem? If people want too imagrate here there are proper ways too do so.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

What kind of compisation did you give the boarder patrol officers you unfairly imprisoned .


fedup   April 29th, 2010 9:53 pm ET

One more thing jeanne
My children born in this country with high gpa and high sats get overlooked becuase we are so pc and have to use affirmative action for college versus merit, so I think racism is being used against those of us born here
Our country is for all that want to come ehre legally and that is the issue here but our poltiicans are allowing their votes to be bought by the large hispanic groups and the Israeli lobby groups


allgrownup25   April 29th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

I agree with AZ and AL. I wish VA would jump on the bandwagon. If you are here illegally you need to leave. If you come to this country learn English. We have so many free ESL classes all over the country. Stop being lazy and learn. Road signs are written in English. So why are you allowed to learn the road in a different language. Thats why so many of these illegals can't drive, cause most of the car crashes in my area.


Lisa M.   April 29th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Allot of us have to go through check points, even as US citizens. Airports, Canadian, Mexican border. I never have a problem with it, because I've got nothing to hide. Why should anyone in Arizona mind getting pulled over (if there's suspicion) IF it's going to protect them from these murderous gangs coming out of Mexico, or those who have joined them. If they are here LEGALLY, they shouldn't be worried or mind this law. It's for THEIR protection too. THAT BORDER IS GETTING PRETTY SCARY!! WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS, THEREFORE THIS LAW IS NEEDED!!!


karenine Leveque   April 29th, 2010 9:54 pm ET

Bottom line, the United States is a country of immigrants. I really don't think the approach taken by Arizona is the solution to the problem. I can not believe in 2010, this is our way as the most powerful and the most democratic country on earth to resolve the illegal immigration problem.
My opinion is as simple as this!


Mary Huber   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

aside the question of whether the law violates federal preemption under the supremacy clause, I would very much like to hear comments from professional commentators as to what the US Supreme Courts standard of review might be for the Arizona Statute. As I believe, there is a compelling state interest involved. My view is that the state's issue with cartel violence may well justify this statute.


JERRY COLBURN   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

Having traveled often in Mexico, I have often paid the police bribes to stay out of jail, just because I’m gringo, and even if I have all necessary papers.

Nor have I ever gotten free medical care, etc. from the Mexican government.


Dylan   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

of course mexicans in AZ, as well as the rest of the mexicans in the U.S. are going to have a problem with the new immagration bill because a lot of them are here illegaly or know someone who is


angela   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

This is infuriating to listen to, ugh!!!! Richardson, get your own state under control. We need this, we need that..finally a few people decide to use some common sense and you come out wailing like a worthless nothing. You must think we do not have one law enforcement person with a half a brain, whatever you say sounds bad really bad. I dont like the horrible violence associated with drug cartels etc. do you mind if we take our country back or start trying to at least? reality check. its not a perfect world.


american-n-mexico   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

I spend most of my life in Mexico I work here with an American company and live here most of the time. Try to obtain work here with a Mexican company its illegal and impossible try becoming a Mexican citizen you have to prove you can earn a living abroad. I’ve seen Mexican immigration officers drag every man off a bus and if they did not have a national ID they were taken away. The police live to enforce federal laws against Americans but not Mexicans. Bottom line the politicians only care about getting re-elected not about Americans they’ve sold us out with NAFTA and now they want to continue to allow drugs and law breakers to enter our country immigration is a federal law the same as drugs are


T. Nunez   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

I believe it is RACIST. The arizona immigration law has gone to far in my opinion. This is a witch hunt because America is a country where we receive those that want to escape persecution and the very thing this law is doing is persecuting and instilling fear on people that want a better life. I understand that they should come legally but you need to remember like every race not just the mexican race that is being picked on has their bad people and has their good people. This law is simply persecuting a group of peoples. What we need is a tougher border agreement and reform of our immigration policy, not a un-analyzed easy way out of instilling and persecuting the mexican race. I say that the President and all constitutuents mexican and non-mexican band together and help repeal that law because that is going too far and invading what America Stands for.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 9:55 pm ET

When I use to go to Mexico frequently (before all the Drug Violence), I made sure I followed every law to the tee, including having every ID and passport that I could possibly need. By the way, I never complained and whined about it either, of course I am one that tries to follow the law where ever I am.


Darcy   April 29th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Guess what people ..you who support illegal immigration ..continue to say...people of the USA should go to a 3rd world nation to see how people live there . Soon the people of the USA won't have to worry about the people of the 3rd world nation because if anymore illegals are allowed to disobey the law...all of the USA will be a 3rd world nation...you won't even remember what being a super power was . You'll be the country that will be asking India, China for charity to support all your citizens with food & housing!!!


Dracky   April 29th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

My comment got terminated before I could finish. Schwartzeneger also took away my Dental & Eye Care, and to put salt into the wound since the thought of inflation is an " Opiated Cartoon Balloon " there was no cost of living increase this year, all at a cost of around $6,000.00 to me, effectively putting me back ten years. Yeah Baby! What an insurance policy to keep the " Disabled " destitute


Arte Davis   April 29th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Larry;
Re: Imminent Arizona Immigration Statute;
Larry, I think that you and CNN should not make arguments for either side in the debate and you if want to find people in favor of the state of Arizona's position on the issue, send Carlos Diaz to Simi Valley or elsewhere in Ventura County, not Olivera Street.


Michael Armstrong Sr.   April 29th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Like I said before send the illegals North and let the North share the burden .


Dave   April 29th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

If you're stopped for a trafic violation in any state, aren't the police going to ask for a drivers license or some kind of ID. If you don't have one, aren't they going to ask why? and won't they start checking your driving citation status? And what happens if you don't show up in the system at all? The system does cross all state borders.


Dede   April 29th, 2010 9:57 pm ET

My legal Mexican house assistant says that if Americans didn't give jobs to the illegals, they wouldn't come here. Why doesn't President Obama & his chosen ones start there? No fence will work: fences end and tunnels go under. Troops on the border: nonsense! The Border cannot be protected, but employers can be stopped from hiring illegals, including those who have false papers.

Another problem, she tells me, is that ANY ILLEGAL can buy papers on most U.S. border town street corners.

And the last problem she mentioned is that so many people she knows in Mexicali, strive to have at least one child born on U.S. soil: it automatically legalizes them.


Wendi Keene   April 29th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

If Israel can secure all its borders to keep out terrorists when they are a tiny country surrounded by Arabs who want to destroy them, why can't we secure our Southern Mexican border? It doesn't seem that it would be that difficult with the military and technology that we have available to us. We obviously aren't using our resources effectively.


Ken Hope   April 29th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

I’m a white man that when ever in my life I got pulled over I had to show my ID it is about time that criminal have to show there ID to. YES CRIMINALS THEIR BREAKING THE LAW. I can not brack the law do we just pick and chose the law .


George   April 29th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

Bottomline if your here ilegally you deserve no rights. If the government can't do it next it will be the people stepping up to protect ourselves.


Mark in Arizona   April 29th, 2010 9:58 pm ET

@Charles. Thanks for understanding.

The burned on taxes, insurance premiums, the legal system and the education system have increased exponentially over the last few years. Recently my son was forced to begin home schooling after we began having problems with his teacher. We had no option other than to withdraw him from school because even though his school has FOUR 2nd grade classes – one is remedial, two are english learning (spanish only) and only ONE is for english speaking students. I ask you: Is this fair treatment to a U.S. citizen that will grow up to be a tax payer?

As for contributions the illegal population makes towards the economy. It seems to me that any benefit is offset by increased taxes and insurance premiums. I don't understand why I have to pay more in order to compensate for the portion of the population that is purposely avoiding playing by the rules of the land.


Grace from AZ   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

very racist!


Edward   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

This law is to protect the people of arizona from murder, gangs, home invasions, drug trafficing, and human smuggling.

It is not about racial profiling at all, its is protectting Arizonians.

It is so easy to forget that 9/11 happened as a result of the governments' inaction on the current immigration law and letting illegal immigrants whose visas expired stay in this Country.

It is the rights of the States to take action if the Federal Government won't.

What would happen if we were illegal in their Country?
Thrown in jail, kicked out, or even killed.

I suppot Arizona's new law

Keep a memory of 9/11 and keep illegal immigrants out of this Country.


Jackie   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Larry,
No one mentions the second generation white anglo-saxon female who marries and takes on the name of a second generation minority male. I've been ID'd since 1994 with credit card purchases at numerous, common, local retail stores, because I've been told at the checkout counter , "You don't look like one." Give me a break.
It's rediculous to relate it to 911. It's an emotional hipe.
It's all about the increasing occurences of law breakers, the economy, and how best to move forward with the increasing explosive population. What's the problem? We should be good at this by now. We've been doing this for quite a while: getting everyone legal who wants to live here. That's what my Grandparents did on both sides of my family. They followed the law. They are being disrepected. Please do not shame them for all that they have done.
Thank you.


Suzie C   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Everybody needs to remember that the only real people of this country are Native Americans,

Therefore this ridiculus Arizon Law needs to apply to everybody of all races and they should be questioned of there immigration status Remember not only are Brown skinned people immigrants. There are several different Immigrants of all colors, Why are only the Hispanic Culture being targeted. I understand the Immigration problem but remember the Immigration problem is not only because of LATINO/HISPANIC Cultures it's also the Immigrant from other Country as well, so then all people need to be QUESTIONED unless your of "NATIVE AMERICA DECENT"


Patrick   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

Yes ag gonzales. Why did you prosecute those 2 border agents for doing their job and both were abused in prison in Mexico because of you mr Gonzalez. I find it hysterical that Larry choose you as a guest. AG gonzales is a joke. Richardson is wrong. Obama ain't doing Jack for the border.


Teri in New Jersey   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

To the caller.

I just mentioned that the country would be fine if the illegal aliens weren't pouring in. Teens and College students will be employed. Taxes will be paid on the earnings. People can save for education and not need to go in debt as deeply or drain their family's resources. OPEN YOUR MINDS PEOPLE.


Michael   April 29th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

How does the AZ law impact moral of Hispanic troops in the Middle East especially those deployed from AZ?


Anthony Peterson   April 29th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

We're addressing the wrong issue when posing any question of who will do the cheap labor. The fact that any labor not going to American citizen and going to an illegal or out of the country is a lose to our economy. Yes, we need to find a better way to remove illegal people when it threatens our lively hood. Feed them, educated them, provide them health care, but when its time to return them, we should not hesitate to do just that.


Beth   April 29th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

@Karenine Leveque...... Keep that hallucination in motion that you live in the most powerful country on earth! You are owned by China & India!!!


DD   April 29th, 2010 10:01 pm ET

to karenine Leveque
What would you suggest instead? How do you propose to fix the drain on the economy that illegal aliens have caused? My husband was driven out of business by illegal aliens who dramatically undercut his prices because they do not cover overhead such as self-employment tax and liability insurance. I don't think you are looking at the big picture.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

One day I overheard some of my coworkers talking and they were telling about a place in Arkansas where illegals can go to pick up their CDL license. Oh, by the way, this would be an illegal CDL license, that they never had to test for like we as Americans have to. Of course, they would have to show their illegal Drivers License and pay 60.00. I am quite sure this is just the tip of the iceberg of services that are offered to them when they arrive.


renee   April 29th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

Let us keep the race card out of the topic, let us talk about breaking the LAW! We already had laws on the books about coming into the country illegally. When the immagrants came across the boarder, they knew that they were breaking several laws, but did this deter them? no! The reason given was they wanted to better the lives of their families. We have people in prisons that committed crimes for the same reasons, but are they out of prison or jail? no. Why do America and or States, write the laws and not go by them, until it is for their own justification?


Kansas Resident   April 29th, 2010 10:02 pm ET

You know, if people are legal, they don't have anything to worry about. I am tired of illegals coming here and taking advantage of our system. I am a third generation American. I am here because my grandfather came here, learned English and worked hard to become an American.
Even here in Kansas, illegals come to my state and brag that they are here illegally. They take opportunities from LEGAL citizens. One example is the large illegal population that have inundated our schools, again, taking opportunities from Kansans. The mexicans I see are lazy and brag about the fact that they are getting a free ticket. I'm tired of it. Good for Arizona. I wish they'd all go back where they came from. I've been down in the desert and seen people wander through the desert, screaming through the desert in packed vans, fiipping me off as they drive up I-10 into Casa Grande. It makes me sick.


Michael   April 29th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

People want to use 911 as a reason for justifying the new AZ law but terrorists that bombed the Twin Towers n Pentagon were not Mexicans and did not enter the states illegally thru Az borders.


An Older Okie   April 29th, 2010 10:04 pm ET

My comment is awaiting moderation!

Facts are facts and the truth is truth. Illegals are not in this country legally and should be deported or put in jail. They should learn English. I am Native American, a term devised by the white community, and American Indians had to learn English in their own country. But, this has nothing to do with the fact that millions are in this country illegally and should be deported.


Brian W   April 29th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

I support an immigration bill on the federal level, however this bill is nothing but a racist reactionary bill (sen bill 1070). As seen by the gov herself not wanting to define who is an illegal alien. It's based on skin color.

After we get the problem solved on a federal level through new legislation we do need to tighten the border.

My only question is why can't we use a lethal fence on the border like the kind that are used in prisons. You can't accidentally run into those one would have to come over one fence then disregard the signs...touch it once and it knocks you down, again and it is lethal.

It would be a sure fire way, after we pass reform for those that are here, to keep from getting in this place again.


Sandra Ramos   April 29th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

What is America coming to .This is like the past is coming back when there was racism and hate, but the only differance is that its a different race now. We ain't nobody to assume or judge anybody and when you find yourself doing that its called racism.But the citizens should look very careful who they vote for in the next election.Because we are the ones that give this people that power.


Deneb   April 29th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

United States has every right to have a policy on illegal immigrants. But U.S. has dragged its feet on this matter of making Federal policy so the State are taking things in their own hands and making laws.
Secondly, all these illegal immigrant start marching and fighting with the U.S. because of the fact that they want to check the status. U.S has every right to do so. I came to this country with proper papers and a lot of red tape and papers. Where do the Mexicans get off fighting with U.S while they have been here illegally. If you are here legally, there is nothing to worry about. U.S has to establish a law at a federal level and not drag their feet.

Since 2001, we have to take our shoes off and some of us have to have a body check; do we call that profiling? It’s a necessity. I am an immigrant from India and went through all sorts of paper work before I got my green card and citizenship and have become a Doctor. I am very upset that all the Mexicans who come here illegally and want to fight with U.S. How can their status be proven their status without the papers? All these politicains who are saying it is wrong get, on track and make an official federal policies and law. I don't think that this Arizona law is meant to do racial profiling; as the former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said, it needs to be tested.

So stop blaming Arizona where crime runs rampart and people keep coming here ILLEGALLY. Don't the American citizens have a right to protect themselves? Do the Mexicans think that just because Mexico sits on the border of U.S. that they have right come illegally, commit crimes and drug trafficking. That is wrong. All those who are coming legally, Bravo and great for them. Come into this country the right way as I did!!!


Don H.   April 29th, 2010 10:08 pm ET

Few, if any, of the critics of the new Arizona law [ SB #1070 ] particularly the celebrity critics, have read the text of the Arizona Law. The knee jerk reactions get great press ( an networks like ad money based on viewer numbers ). Remember, billions of dollars are involved in drug and human smuggling. The king pins are not stupid, they directly and indirectly pay folks, including politicians, judges and police in the U.S. to look the other way regarding illegal human and drug trafficking. Arizona is one of the largest and most financially profitable entry points.

Arizonans don't want illegals; why don't the critics dig into their pockets and charter buses and planes to take illegals out of Arizona to their States. That would be a win-win for everyone. This is not a matter of racial profiling, it is a matter of economics. Illegals plunder the public school, health care and welfare budgets and put Arizona deep in debt. You want them Larry, you have deep pockets, you and your friends, and other critics should start a charter bus movement.


mary duret   April 29th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

Doesnt mexico have there border protected by gauards. you are checked for papers to get in. why is it so different if we want to protect our borders. Why cannt they be happy and live in there country. They want to change every thing here.Three americans are in prision now in Iran for crossing in to there country by mistake. Any country in need we help. I think we are really being taken advantage of. thank you . mary


JERRY COLBURN   April 29th, 2010 10:09 pm ET

About 1990, the Mexican government legitimized confiscation of an American Senior retirement community south of Ensenada. The elderly for the most part lacked savings to buy or even rent when returned to California.

Neither Clinton nor Bush nor the ACLU put pressure on the Mexican government to either reverse or repay our people for the loss, even though they had met all Mexican real estate law.

The confiscation came under a Mexican law allowing villagers to reclaim land from abandoned settlements.

One day several hundred purported descendants of the former village showed up with cops behind them, and dragged out the elderly Americans.

No provisions had been made for further transport, food, or water.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:10 pm ET

Hey Fedup,

Israel is only a tiny little speck on the map, yet everyone is always messing with them to take what little land they have away. This has been the case for many many years and it will go on for very many more years. It is the chosen land and it belongs to Israel.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:11 pm ET

California is the biggest example of what illegal immigration will do for your state. Why do you think it has gone broke?


sunday   April 29th, 2010 10:12 pm ET

There is a important group of people who are always forgotten in any immigration debate
Those who came in th the USA legally and filed for adjustment of status for themselves and their families
Have waited for many years for the INS to issue them papers without avail.
Inthe meantime their kids have grown up as americans, and due to the delays they are no longer beneficiaries of their parents temporary staus and they end up falling out of status due to the incompetence of the immigration department
consequently after many years and thousands of dollars these people and their kids end up falling out of status and thus become illegal not because they wanted to but because they can no longer afford the thousands of dollars needed for annual work permit renewals, they cannot afford to go back where they came from
or the preospective employers who were filling papaers for them grow tired of waiting for the INS to act
For any immigration reform to work, it has to start with clearing up the bottleneck at the INS offices, they are the major cause of most people ending up as illegal immigrants


Chris Christou   April 29th, 2010 10:14 pm ET

Arizonians will not immigrate to other US states, other Americans will actually flock to Arizona for the jobs opening.... and If the borders are not respected and so many have a problem with the tactics being implemented why doesn't the US annex Mexico and Central America? A 200 mile border between Panama and Colombia is easier to patrol than a 1500 mile border. A larger nation encompassing a larger diversity spreading American businesses South so no one needs to break borders anymore.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:16 pm ET

Amen Older Okie!

I would never dream of going to live in another country and expecting them to have to speak in English. I would be proud to learn their language. I would never expect them to look the other way if I am breaking their laws.


Steven   April 29th, 2010 10:16 pm ET

What's the big deal?

No one is stopping these people from applying for legal entry.

If they they have their state department Visa show it? If they have their green card show it? You'd think the Hispanics that came here the legal way would want to stop illegal entry just as much as any legal US citizen would.

It seems the big deal here, is to protect the right of an illegal person to be illegal. Maybe a bandit should have the legal right to be a bandit too?


robyncaffrey keyser wv 26726   April 29th, 2010 10:18 pm ET

( god – bless you larryking ) for mentioning

on the air : if they didnt investigate ( who will know
( who's "' who )

again : whats the worries ' if : no matter what skin get's " thorilly " investigated if you have all the write papers

( remember ) if your a a legal citizen and ' clean '
the first rule of thumb" a copy of your papers are at hand

another repeat like all the bombings or 9-11 is really bad.
larry god' bless u.

agree "'


Elizabeth Levin   April 29th, 2010 10:21 pm ET

As an American, I cannot travel to any country in the world without my passport and other identification with me at all times. Your guests should be angry with the illegals that come to this country, work for cash, pay no federal or state income tax, receive billions in social services benefits, produce American children, etc. These illegals do not want to become citizens. Such illegals come here from all over the world. This issue has nothing to do with racism. Everyone is welcome that comes in through the front door, speaks English, and really wants to join the American family in every way. Those that demand the benefits and remain in the underground economy should be sent back to their country of birth – no matter where in the world.


Jim   April 29th, 2010 10:21 pm ET

i would like to comment on the remarks made by the person from Oregon that the economy will crash more if this law is allowed. My comment is basically BS take a look at our current unemployment numbers and you will see that there is plenty of people out there (legal citizens) who are on welfare and need work and would jump at a chance to work at a Burger King, McDonalds, 7/11, Wall Mart if we sent all of these illegal aliens back to where they came from.

Also I support the Arizona Law and basically want to tell the US government one thing stay out of local laws, Arizona set this law up for the protection of their state not any other state, they cold care less what happens anywhere else in the US. They did this because the current US government stood back and would not do anything and basically the government does not have the personnel and is not willing to take care of the problem like it should have a long time ago.


Barbara McElhinney   April 29th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

I know legal and illegal immigrants. Why should people that arrive here illegally be given special privileges? Legal immigrants work years to come to this country legally, yet they see every day the benefits that some illegal immigrants are granted on a regular basis.

I work for the Utah State Department of Workforce Services and every day we give out thousands if not millions of dollars to illegal immigrants. The reason: all these illegal immigrants have a plethora of US citizen babies. So without any question to the legal status of parents, we must give benefits to our little and newborn US citizens. This includes: medicaid to birth these babies, food stamps, medicaid for these children ongoing and even financial assistance.

Our constitution is so all encompassing and wonderful, but it seems that it will also be the demise of the American Dream for those of us who arrived here legally.

The government is out of money now because of these added expenditures among other bad policies. These economic policies affect all of us. For me personally, I have been working for the State of Utah for $16/hr for the last two years with no raise in sight. My job requires me to endure the stress of trying to help all the people, whether here legally or illegally, applying for food, medical and financial benefits.

It's time to make some hard and fast rules. This anything goes policy we have in this country is destroying everything Americans hold dear.


Maria   April 29th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

"Dont send the illegals back send them North"
Are you serious or just baiting? Here in the northwest (Washington state) we have the same problem with undocumented individuals some cities are called little Mexico. Please don’t come~~~we have no more jobs or services left~ Just this week, “SEATTLE - A man who was seriously burned in Seattle reportedly was set afire for failing to pay men who illegally brought him and his girlfriend from Mexico.


lorraine quintana   April 29th, 2010 10:22 pm ET

Okay here we go. This is one of the worst laws that has ever come into being. When you talk about imigration why not put up the same laws for the canadians? Yeah right. As for immigrants it is 100 percent correct that they take the jobs that others "think" are beneath them you know when you have a family to feed you do what has to be done no matter what. If the immigrants want to come over I say let them but with the stipulation that they have to – no if, ands, or buts – serve a 4 year term in our armed forces. I think after serving their terms they should be granted citizenship. This law in Arizona needs to be removed all together. And for all you anglo americans let me tell you something, we are all immigrants here the only people who are actual Americans are the Native American Indians. So get out your proof of citizenship if this is the law you want. Mad in New Mexico


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 10:24 pm ET

Suzie C makes a good point, ALL immigrants from ALL countries should be examined.
Keep up the good work CNN – I can't wait to find out how they will determine what "reasonable suspicion exists that gives the impression that the person they have come into contact with is an illegal" (paraphrase mine) is.
If they are going by outward appearance ALL hispanic looking people are in trouble IMO


kansas ken   April 29th, 2010 10:25 pm ET

What most people aren't looking at IS this is about ILLEGAL ALIENS being in the country, CONTRARY to the laws of this land. What most people don't realise is if an officer of the law stops someone and they have no papers whatsoever (driver's license, etc.) and he has reasonable doubts as to their legal status, he has to contact INS. INS refuses to do ANYTHING (i.e. pick them up, or hold them for deportation, investigate, etc.) UNLESS they have commited a crime! Other than being in the country illegally. If they want to be here they need to enter the country legally. Yes this is a country of immigrants, living corperately under common laws for the common good. Okay, for the most part. If, once again, the federal government can't, or in tis case refuses to use common sense and address the issue, the states involved HAVE to take steps to insure the safety of their population, legally living there as well as those who aren't. They are called ILLEGAL aliens for a reason. In most cases they can be here legally. But they don't, i.e. they are breaking the law. If I go down the highway posted 35 mph at 100 mph I can expect to get a ticket or be arrested and taken to jail because I broke the law. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:25 pm ET

That is the whole story in a nutshell, it is all about politics in this country and therefore it is about the votes! When they have ruined this country and turned it into basically what Mexico is, will everyone be happy? Where will they run to then? I don't think the clueless ones in this country see what the "BIG PICTURE" is going to look like. Hope I'm dead and gone to Heaven by then!


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 10:28 pm ET

And please can someone tell me why Mexican companies have started companies here in the USA, when they can start them at home & build up their own economy? Just curious.
Are they afraid to live in their own country?


Dee   April 29th, 2010 10:32 pm ET

Hey Gigi,

You still don't get it, the law simply is if a person is say being stopped for running a red light...that person has broken the law. Therefore, that person will be asked for license, green card, etc. If they don't have one, they will have to prove in court that they are here legally, if not, they will be deported. They will have their chance in court to prove their innocence, if not they should have to go back home.
Why is that any different than we you or I would be stopped and asked for our drivers license, insurance verification, date of birth, employment, etc?
Why should illegals get away with breaking the law. This law does not give the police the right to stop someone for looking like their Mexican.


Dracky   April 29th, 2010 10:32 pm ET

Talk about being chopped! Let's see if I can get my whole comment in here. I love the " Mind of Mencia " but, Iliegals are ruining my life. New blood is one thing but must be accepted in a legal fashion, we cannot afford indiscretionary Immigration. Because of the costs to California the " Terminator " terminated my Federal Stimulus check, decreased my disability $45.00 @month. I don't hire illegals yet I pay through the nose for their presence in my country. Being Free, White, 21, & not a veteran of the Vietnam scirmish made me the New Minority in the early 70's and I'm sick and tired of taking a back seat to yet another assault on my heritage because I was born in 1955. Thank You.


rita   April 29th, 2010 10:33 pm ET

I am not sure why my first comment was censured All i said that the Sheriff installs fear to the common citizens when he speaks .His tone made the average citizen feel powerless ..For many years, his goal is to pursue illegals ..as he refers them stripping them of any human dignity , the little digbity they try to have as hunan beings.
The Sheriff attitude defies the laws of this country. I am for law and order and illegal immigrants should be deported but I question the
authority of the sheriff. I get a very frightening sense from the comments and tone that The Sheriff after many years of law enforcement has a personal reward and satisfaction instead of representing the State of Arizona


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Steven
There will be no big deal if there weren't some police officers who get high on the power & authority they have & use it in the wrong way
( The further harass, abuse others)
It's a matter of the heart. I've come across some police officers like this who don't feel good about who they are, but have this authority to lord it over others when they want to, & I was abused more than once. It's really not a good feeling & is terrifying. I believe this is what concerns others as well.


DD   April 29th, 2010 10:38 pm ET

cause – effect
commit a crime – pay the consequences
cross the border illegally – get deported

Nobody runs to champion the cause of junkies, hookers, or burglars. Why are so many people defending those whose very presence on this side of the border is a violation of the law?


Anthony Peterson   April 29th, 2010 10:40 pm ET

Good point Shakira..... yesterday I forgot my ID.....but I was in VA not AZ.....I could've been deported and the very least detained unreasonably.


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 10:41 pm ET

Dee I DO get it & that's why I'm anxious, because lets just say I'm in a rush one day & forget my drivers license. It's in another jacket pocket or another purse or something & I changed over.
And I do something innocent like my tail light on my car is out.
I get stopped, officer asks for my License, I have to go to court.
I have to pay court costs, legal fees.
I was BORN in the USA, I am extremely inconvenienced, for a perfectly innocent mistake.
I then have to PROVE to the courts I am an American citizen.
OK cool, so what happens then? Does the judge just throw it out.
Do I lose points on my license. Do I get a ticket I have to pay?
And what happens in between while I am in contact with the police officer, you know BEFORE I get my day in court?
What if the police officer is the type who likes to mistreat others?
Am I going to be unduly harassed, mistreated all because of an innocent mistake I made being in rush or something because on the outside I appear to be spanish or latina & my hair is good like mexicans?
Oh I get it all right.


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 10:51 pm ET

Oh & Dee? What if the good police officer decides since I don't have any ID on me, just throw em on the bus to Mexico because they look Mexican anyway? BEFORE I get my day in court.
HOW will I get out of THAT dillemma? I never been to Mexico a day in my life & don't want to go?


ticked american   April 29th, 2010 10:59 pm ET

ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!! I am ashamed of any of my fellow AMERICANS that would be so STUPID to think that we should LET ANYONE in our country ILLEGALLY!

Let's keep being stupid and LET the ILLEGALS continue to stress/deplete our welfare system, shut down our hospitals and INSULT our ancestors who came to this country LEGALLY, jumped through the proper hoops and worked their butts off!!!!! This shames me the most to think that any AMERICAN would give anyone a "free pass"!

I am proud to be a UKRANIAN AMERICAN whose great grand father and grand mother came here to MAKE a better life LEGALLY....let's let them EARN that same pride through LEGAL channels!!!!


JD Beteta   April 29th, 2010 11:01 pm ET

Larry, I saw your show tonight. As a latino myself and a person who cares about everyone whether with papers or not, out of all people you could have brought to represent, you really couldn't get anyone better than Carlos Mencia??? I'm sorry, but Carlos is not allowed to speak for Latinos. He cares only about one person and that's himself. This was a huge error on your part and I believe you should do better homework when having representatives for groups of individuals.


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 11:02 pm ET

My last statement would be this, the law is too broad.
It leaves too much room to be open for interpretation.
Everyone has their own interpretation of things & their own perception therefore, one person will not see or understand things to be as another does.
There definitely is a problem, but I don't think this is the way to fix it.
There has to be another way, a better way. Perhaps they can revise this law or something, but IMO this phrase as I heard it on CNN
"reasonable suspicion exists that gives the impression that the person they have come into contact with is an illegal" (paraphrase mine)
is too broad.


Laurie Phoenx AZ   April 29th, 2010 11:03 pm ET

What part of IILEGAL does no one understand??? If we go to Mexico we have to carry our legal ID's and passports. If we have people come over to work from India or the Phillipines they have to show they are allowed to be here so why not the IILEGALS. We as Americans have to pay taxes, why not the ILLEGALS. They take food stamps, medical and WIC away from the Americans. They get all this free help so why not the elderly and our VETS that I see living on the street. I get tired of seeing them in line at the store by $400 or $500 in food stamps why because they come here to baby after baby.

Americans get turned to to open their own business, the ILLEGALS don't. Look at the crimes being committed in AZ. and look who has committed them, drop houses, drugs, murders including boyfriends getting mad at their girlfriends and beating their babies to death. Everybody needs to open their eyes at what is really happening. IF THEY WANT TO BE HERE BE HERE AS A US CITIZEN.

We need our jobs back, and US citizens need help and we get turned down. This is the smartest and best thing Gov Brewer has done DEAL WITH IT.

Even English has become the second language which is not right. I'm a US Citizen who speaks english only and proud of it.

I am all for this new bill, maybe US Citizens should start lawsuits for being discrimanated against when we can't get foodstamps, section 8 and medical.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 11:11 pm ET

Gigi,
That is my point.....the law will give you the opportunity to prove in court that you are legal. Read it again.....besides if you are legal you will have those documents at hand, believe me!


Tamil Maldonado   April 29th, 2010 11:12 pm ET

Carlos Mencia should not be speaking or representing latinos at your show. He does not relate to us as part of us. He is just speaking about himself, his status, but he is not speaking about other peoples status and how to proceed into an immigration reform. He is not representing the immigrants, he is not speaking about breaking up our families, or the dream act, or other situations. He just lives in a bubble, calling himself american and that american is giving "them" work like he does not belong with the latino group. Please find somebody that can speak for us and our issues (not their personal status).

The law is wrong and we are going backward in time and history. It is just a shame for this country. There is not such things as "freedom", a word very marketed here by politicians.


Dee   April 29th, 2010 11:14 pm ET

We are all inconvenienced if we don't have our drivers license, and especially insurance verification.....we get a ticket, then go to court and show verification and at least that part of the ticket is dropped. PLEASE
LET ME CRY SOME REAL TEARS FOR THE POOR ILLEGALS, ok?


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 11:17 pm ET

Arizona is turning into the pariah of civil rights in America, it smacks of Jim Crow laws which American's have fought long and hard against. It seems this 'show us your citizenship papers' is the result of the push by White Supremacists within the Republican and Tea party membership who appear to also behind the RINO political and racial purity tests for what they consider to be 'true Republicans'.


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 11:19 pm ET

Dee with all due respect please go back & re-read my previous statements.
I offered a perfectly logical & reasonable scenario in which I may not have my documents that day & my concern is what happens from the time I come into contact with the officer to the time I get my day in court.
If I cannot prove who I am at that time, what will happen to me?
Will some misguided police officer put me on a bus with intentions to deport me, & I won't be able to do anything at that time?
Because as I'm sure you know if a person gets arrested in the USA the police confiscate everything they have on them at the time.
They impound their car & haul them off.
I'm concerned, but not too because I AM American but I see it from this point of view.
I know if a person does get wrongfully arrested, there is nothing they can do if they are rotting in jail & cannot prove who they are.
They must either spend time there & then get their chance to go to court after time served or get bailed out.
But if they are in Mexico because they were mistakenly taken to be someone of another nationality what then?


lola   April 29th, 2010 11:21 pm ET

My grandparents were legal immigrants from Russia. I don't see how it is "racist" to be against illegals. If a person here is illegal, it is wrong regardless of their race. A Russian illegal is no better than a Mexican illegal. It breaks the law wherever the person immigrates from. American citizens need to have pride in their country and show respect for the laws of the land. I commend the Arizona governor for showing leadership and taking the bull by the horns.......All those people calling her a "racist" – just what should they do in Arizona? Should the allow illegals to bankrupt the state?


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 11:21 pm ET

I will admit I am not too familiar on how the deportation process works.


Smith in Oregon   April 29th, 2010 11:22 pm ET

Remember the chestnut mantra by the Republican-Tea baggers, less Government? You don't get any larger in Government and its Governmental invasion into citizens lives than this 'show us your citizenship papers' Law.

This entirely repudiates Republican-Tea baggers foundational theme.

It appears Big Government and Big Government invasions into your lives is OK to Republican-Tea baggers as long as it is the result of a Republican led lawmaker.


rj   April 29th, 2010 11:26 pm ET

The problem also is that American citizens of Hispanic dissent have already been detained,arrested, and jailed in error during racist raids by the FEDS and this kooky Arpaio character in Arizona NOW . Senator Menendez has reported this from congress, as have of course many others…So we already have victims of overzealous law personnel who are swept up and lost in the haze of hysteria. So Obama needs to stop this nonsense now. We need to get him involved now to shutdown the detentions and hate crimes.


Serg   April 29th, 2010 11:32 pm ET

As a Cuban American and fellow Hispanic I can sympathize with anyone trying to improve their way of life, if it is done legally, and if they follow the same conditions my family or past immigrants have followed upon entry into this great nation of ours. I am amazed to see none Hispanics Americans use this issue in Arizona to further their political careers or fame by denouncing the states’ rights to protect its citizens. Without law there is chaos, without funding there is no law enforcement, the Federal Government has failed time and time again to protect the boarders. Do to this neglect which has gone unchallenged since President Regan, Arizona has stepped up to the plate and said enough is enough. If you’re a Citizen of the United States and you are stopped in Arizona, then what are you worried about? Regardless of your skin color, creed, religious belief, or otherwise if you cross the border illegally and you are not a citizen, you are subject to our laws (Federal Law). Washington!!!! Please do your job if you don’t like the laws passed by the State of Arizona!


Gigi   April 29th, 2010 11:39 pm ET

Not sure if this board is closed now or not but if not I would like to know if anyone can tell what happens next if a person can't prove who they are at the time they get stopped by a police officer?
Say they forgot their license that day or something.
Do they get arrested?


Janet Rosenberg-Herrera   April 29th, 2010 11:43 pm ET

To fedup who stated "The children born in the usa from illegal parents should not be citizens of the usa as they were probably conceived in Mexico and the parents came here illegally".

The Constitution of the United States provides that anyone born on American soil is a citizen of the U.S. Where the child is conceived is not a consideration. The immigration status of the parents is also not a consideration.

In order to deny citizenship to children born on U.S. soil to illegal immigrants, a constitutional amendment would have to be proposed to the states by a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress or by a convention called by two-thirds of the states, and ratified by three-fourths of the states.

The amendment process is so difficult that in our entire history there have only been 27 amendments to the U.S. Constitution. Can you imagine 66% of the House and Senate and 75% of states agreeing on anything?!

So...the issue of citizen children with undocumented parents remains a legal and ethical problem for our country.


burro   April 29th, 2010 11:48 pm ET

many people blame others,but is not the iligals mistake,this is part of the globalization,companies want more profits,let me ask u if you own a company who will you hire,also if the america people (president and all polititians do not want anyone from another country in america all they need to do is speak and tell everybody to leave,the boicot is good idea,iligals are strong people,can handle anything,people in mexico are dead because customers in america love drugs,this is the world we all living in,so thinks what u think is right.


ticked american   April 29th, 2010 11:49 pm ET

What does it teach our kids to LET ILLEGALS stay? That they can go into anyones home and it is okay because....WHY? They are coming into our HOME! If you want them to stay at your house.....why not we're practically family since ALL us "LEGALS" foot the bill.

They are trespassing on AMERICAN soil. We are the host and they are sucking the life from us. LET THEM GIVE BACK--Come LEGALLY, PAY TAXES--EARN THEIR WAY- Why doesn't that make sense. If ENFORCING that means I am a racist then I guess I am a racist.


Kevin Ardery   April 29th, 2010 11:51 pm ET

Every time a border patrol agent gets killed or a rancher gets killed our federal government has blood on its hands. Neither Bush nor Obama, so far has done anything on illegal immigration. Why? Because they were and are afraid of being called racists. It is not about race it is about the rule of law!

The illegal immigrants who come here have broken the law that is why we call them illegal. The police have the right to stop them if they are commiting a crime and asking for their papers! The police do not have the time to stop the average person on the street and ask for papers. The law is specific in that regard.

We as citizens outside of Arizona do not know what they are going through. The crime is out of control with drugs and kidnapping and killing. It is a no brainer that the drugs and kidnapping are done by the Mexican cartels. It is not racial profiling when the police know who is commiting those crimes. It is mostly Mexicans from Mexico and some of the illegal immigrants who are already here! Wise up! The state is in chaos and in reality alot of the crime is being commited with people of brown skin!

To help curtail the drugs and kidnapping it is very simple, build a fence and put more border patrol agents on the border. Janet Napolitano wanted that done when she was Governor now she does not! It is a shame that both Bush and Obama are making this a political issue when it is a security issue!


Cajazz76:24:8   April 29th, 2010 11:52 pm ET

lola...bye-bye

Thank you CNN...

We can work together in moderation...thank you for doing your best...At times we all have to work in mysterious ways...


Alonzo Sandoval   April 29th, 2010 11:56 pm ET

This new law that will take affect in 90 day's is just not right. I strongly believe this new law will give the ok for law enforcement the right to begin racial profiling on Mexican American's, Violating their civil right's. What about other illegal's from other countries like Ireland? They dont look Mexican and because of this im sure law enforcement wont be asking them for their legal status or any illegal that don't look Mexican for that matter. If you Look, Walk, Talk, Like a Mexican you will be asked by law enforcement for your leagal status. All over all people have been talking about illegal Mexicans, What about all the other illegal's in Arizona other than Mexican's? No-one's talking about them! One has to remember that everyone in the United States ancestor's came from a foriegn country, The only true americans are the indian's.


Cajazz76:24:8   April 29th, 2010 11:56 pm ET

lola

Your comment, now removed, to Smith in Oregon was kind of calling the kettle black since your immigrant family came from a communist country, wasn't it?


lola   April 29th, 2010 11:59 pm ET

Arizona has more kidnappings than any other state in the country. Why is that? Because of the tens of thousands of illegals that cross the border each day. Human trafficking, drugs, and crime are rampant in Arizona. We need to protect our citizens first and foremost. Charity begins at home! Illegals Go Home! Help your own country to be a better place so they wont want to come over here and destroy ours.


lola   April 30th, 2010 12:01 am ET

Cajazz- takes one to know one......However, I found his comments pathetic. The moderators of this blog are such chickens.


Smith in Oregon   April 30th, 2010 12:02 am ET

Within hours of US Senate Republican minority leader John Boehner's promise of no immigration legislation would be crafted nor even read in the US Senate for consideration this YEAR, US Senate Democratic Majority leader Harry Reid introduced a sweeping National Immigration reform legislation which uses a full range of reforms to approach the illegal immigration to citizenship which Republican lawmakers have ducked and avoided passing during their previous decades and tenures in Office.

As is all to often, President Obama and the Democratic lawmakers will work on crafting and passing sweeping National Immigration reform legislation which satisfies Americans and illegal immigrates that are considering American citizenship. Will the Republican lawmakers attempt to block, obstruct and filibuster a National Immigration reform legislation? WHO CARES, the Democrats are likely going to be the only ones putting in the effort, the hours and staff effort to make certain the National Immigration legislation improves all aspects of the Federal Immigration Law.

With 7 other Republican led States considering enacting its version of the racist anti-brown skin Arizona Immigration laws, I hope Hispanics across America leave the Republican party and join the Democratic Party to make certain such racist Jim Crow laws are not enacted elsewhere.


joey   April 30th, 2010 12:06 am ET

shakira just stated on anderson 360 that she has no driver li,cense of ID to prove who she is here in america. I am a american citizen born and raised in the U.S.A. Im a pipefitter and before I can even be looked at for a job I have to show my driver license, social security card, A L.E.A.D. drug card and now a T.W.I.C. card and a osha safty training card. Then if Im hired I am given a company ID card and I must have these credentials on me at all times . All of these things makes for a safer work place and protects me and my family. Not all of us are millionaires and can travle the world with no ID. That must be nice.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:13 am ET

I am liberal, but illegal immigration needs to be addressed. The federal government refuses to act because of political concerns. I think Arizona is well within its rights because the FED refuses to take action. Is it the right action? Maybe, maybe not but something needs to be done.


Daryl   April 30th, 2010 12:16 am ET

The police are here to protect and serve. They are only supposed to arrest those who are harming others. This new police state that we're getting to in many states is making me worry we are slip-sliding into Naziism


emelia   April 30th, 2010 12:16 am ET

ITS NOT JUST ABOUT THE LAW...THE LAW IS TAKING AWAY PEOPLES CIVIL RIGHTS LEGAL OR NOT. ITS PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM REPORTING A CRIME COMMITED TO THEM BY A TRUE CRIMINAL BECCAUSE THEIR SCARED TO GET DEPORTED. PARENTS CANT EVEN TAKE THEIR SICK CH


emelia   April 30th, 2010 12:18 am ET

PARENTS CANT EVEN TAKE THEIR SICK CHILDREN TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THEY GET DEPORTED IF THEY DONT HAVE THEIR PAPERS! THATS RIDICULOUS. I USED TO LIVE IN AZ, FOR TEN YEARS. IM GLAD I LEFT WHEN I DID. THAT STATE HAS BECOME RACIST. AND ANTI AMERICAN.


jg   April 30th, 2010 12:18 am ET

It is so easy for all these people to say that a law that is finally going to enforce border protection is racist. The fact of the matter is that there are thousands of people coming into our country illegally and causing a safety issue. I live 5 miles from the border and have seen hundreds of people crossing through my small community. They are not just people looking for work any more. They are drug dealers and major criminals and Americans are getting brutalized and killed. The key word here is illegal. When I go to a different country I am required to show my passport or visa. Do I scream racial profiling. Hell NO!


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:20 am ET

In the absence of action or direction form the federal government is it appropriate for the state to take action or make its own direction?


Smith in Oregon   April 30th, 2010 12:21 am ET

State Laws cannot supersede Federal Laws on Immigration. Police officers are not federal immigration agents. Arizona's racist Jim Crow law is Unconstitutional. Arizona will get slapped by multiple class action lawsuits and national and international boycotts resulting in bankrupting Arizona and its corrupt Republican lawmakers.

I hope Hispanics across America remember Republican lawmakers anti-Hispanic law in Arizona and join the Democratic Party in masses for the upcoming mid-term election cycle.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:23 am ET

Carlos Mencie just nailed the truest problem. Employers hiring illegal immigrants are the biggest criminals. The U.S. government refuses to punish those companies in a manner that meaningfully reduces the illegal act.
That more than border security is the real problem.


Donna Dungee   April 30th, 2010 12:24 am ET

To all the Mexican – Americans all over our great nation: welcome to the world of the African-Americans!!!!


Claire Holmes   April 30th, 2010 12:29 am ET

I think the United States government has failed Arizona and other states who are suffering with this extreme illegal immigrant problem. Maybe, instead of criticizing Arizona, the Federal government needs to have a dialog with Arizona about how they could help them deal with this expensive, and in some cases, dangerous problem. I have no problem with those immigrants who are here legally, but those that are here illegally have broken the law and need to leave.

I think one way we could help curb the illegal immigrant problem is to up the fines on employers who have illegals on their payroll. Right now, they are just getting a slap on the wrist. The Federal Government needs to be more proactive.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:29 am ET

@smith in Oregon If the Federal government refuses to act in a crisis the state is expected to sit on its hands and do nothing?

I would think that illegal immigration in border regions is reaching crisis levels. If the border states say it's not a crisis then they should wait for the Fed to act, but if they believe it is a crisis, it is their duty to act.


Sergio   April 30th, 2010 12:29 am ET

This Law is a complete contradiction of what AMERICA stands for.


Daniel Miezelis   April 30th, 2010 12:32 am ET

I became a naturalized citizen 23 years ago from Colombia, and I believe that the jobs that illegal emigrants get in the U.S are the jobs that Americans do not want to do, also the companies or peoples that are employing these emigrants do not pay taxes by hiring them and paying them under the table in such making the situation worse for our country economically.
There are many hardworking emigrants that should be able to work in this country and live alongside us. let us not forget that this country was founded by emigrants and that is what makes it such a great place to live in. Thank You


Lukas in Arizona   April 30th, 2010 12:34 am ET

This just shows how dysfunctional this government is, Obama administration is fueling a race war, Boycott instead of working on a reform, uhh are we in kindergarten? I came here from Sweden in -99 and had to go through the entire procedure, one year to wait for work permit which I had to reapply for every year for three years to get my green card and additional three years to apply for citizenship, I am now a proud passport holder of the USA and I had to keep a clean record and show proof of paid taxes, I was traveling on a visitor visa and had to leave every ninety days to renew it in Sweden while waiting for a decision and the last time I returned to the USA I was questioned for hour and a half about my intentions, profiling? No, just customs officers doing the job that was asked of them … during my wait for work permit I was involved in a rear end collision and upon arriving to the hospital I was forced to show proof of funds before getting treatment, and these people can just walk in and no Q asked? So I should make a big stink about profiling..? I am shocked that law enforcement is getting pounded for doing the job that was asked of them to do. In most other countries police is entitled to ask anyone at any given moment about proof of residency and what they are doing… BIG DEAL.. If you have nothing to hide why worry… Go Sheriff Joe and Go Governor… at least they have what it takes to do the right thing.. Shame on this administration that is acting very poorly and belongs at a kindergarten.


Gigi   April 30th, 2010 12:34 am ET

The people of Olvera St Los Angeles are saying exactly what I am saying, and actually I wondered that myself..
There are people who are American citizens who was born here in America who I know who live in Arizona. At first glance they appear to be hispanic. (Due to the color of their skin, etc) What happens if I went to visit them, would I be targeted? & what are they going through?
If a person is arrested & hasn't committed a family members phone number to memory to be able to call them to come get them, how can they possible get out of jail to prove who they are?
AND what if they are not taken to jail but somewhere else?


Matthew Z   April 30th, 2010 12:34 am ET

The problem with the reporting of this law, is that there is already a Federal Law that states that you must have your papers with you if you are not a citizen. And if you are, you have to provide a VALID social security #. So where does this violate anyones rights. They can't pull you over unless you have already broken the law.


Jan   April 30th, 2010 12:35 am ET

I'm tired of all this bull. Fact. It is against the law to step foot in this country illegally.

Fact. If my tail light is out and I am pulled over, the first thing that happens is the officer walks up to my vehicle and asks for my ID and proof of insurance. How is this Arizona law violating the human rights when this officer has the right to ask ME an American for my ID and other papers?


Warren Serkin   April 30th, 2010 12:37 am ET

You can be stopping Mexico at any time, for any reason and have to show your papers. If you don't have them you can be arrested and jailed. This being the case, why don't we boycott Mexico.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:39 am ET

Legal immigration is a good thing for this country but people who go outside the law hurt everyone. The economy must absorb immigrants slowly and it must do so in a managed a thoughtful way. To many immigrants at once can stress the services of a nation. I am for legal immigration in a managed thoughtful process, not who can sneak across the border first.


jack   April 30th, 2010 12:40 am ET

I can understand how this new bill could make American citizens of Latin background uncomfortable. I see several immediate ways to help the crime and civil rights problem. First simply fine people who hire illegals from any country enough to deter the problem. Require documentaion of citizenship to use any government programs. I had to send off and get a birth certificate to get a driver's license. I was drafted into the military, so presenting documents is no big sacrifice. A comprehensive immigration program that incorporates these measures is well overdue. No reason for racial profiling. Another way to reduce violent crime, as well as generate much needed tax revenue is the legalization of cannabis for adults. This would also foster civil rights and a respect for law and order, since there is no rational reason to keep a harmless very beneficial medicinal herb illegal. People need to start using their reason rather than thinking with illogic and hatred.


Beatriz Mueller   April 30th, 2010 12:40 am ET

Illegal immigrants? The first Europeans who came to this continent were illegal. They took over Native American land illegally, with contracts written in English so the various tribes were unable to read them and were duped into land exchanges that never took place. The Native Tribes were robbed of this land and now we have laws in which we can investigate someone based on looks? We can even mistrust their id's because as one law enforcement officer said on Larry King, those id's can be fake. So in other words, they may even have a legal passport, but hey, it might be fake, so if they look foreign (what does that mean?) and sound a bit foreign, well then, they MUST BE ILLEGAL. Does it target whites? Are we really targeting illegal aliens or are we targeting anyone who isn't blonde and white? What are we coming to? Please. We have more serious problems in this country (such as education -or the lack thereof- and poverty) that need our attention and tax dollars.


Christopher   April 30th, 2010 12:41 am ET

I wish this show would show more of both sides. There is a slant in the interviews for people against the law who don't even live in AZ. The LA reporter, well the state of California is bankrupt as a result of bailing out the hospitals for non-insured/illegals. California also has the highest crime rates in the nation. So, I would like to see both sides of the story not just one unvalidated claim against the law.

The fact remains that AZ has a large problem. Just 4 weeks ago, a man was shot and killed in front of his wife and daughter as he tried to stop and illegal from stealing beer at a Circle K. The accused was assisted by his mother and sister who are citizens to escape to Mexico. Then the rancher who was killed on the boarder. The national parks are littered with trash from all the drug lords and illegals. In fact, I have a friend who works as a border patrol agent. They are subjected to violence by these illegals.

In AZ, we are afraid to even drive between Tuscon and Phoenix as this highway has been overrun by illegals and drug lords. We often see the Sheriffs Dept and other agencies with helicopters and armored vehicles when shot outs on the freeways occur.

How come the news isn't showing all of these news stories leading up to the laws. Almost all the people interviewed do not even live in AZ.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 12:43 am ET

@Lukas in Arizona Don't throw this at the Obama Administration BOTH democrat and republican top officials, avoid tackling the true problems of illegal immigration. Both side are guilty of not making the tough decisions on this topic.


Mexico   April 30th, 2010 12:46 am ET

I find this all funny. The president of Mexico issues a travel alert for Hispanics coming to Arizona. Are you kidding me? He cant even protect his own people. Juarez had 20 people killed the other day, most 18-19 year olds. We invade Afghanistan and Iraq yet there have been more murders in Mexico than the two combined. Hell, I would want to leave Mexico too, no matter what!! His administration, police, and military is corrupt. Why isn't Obama putting the same level of passion that he did in his Health Reform to protecting us post 9-11, why?? Because they are Hispanic and not African America.


No Way Jose!   April 30th, 2010 12:46 am ET

Illegal=Illegal!!!

This issue is NOT about racial profiling, it is about enforcing the existing laws on the books! The media, politicians and Hispanics are trying to spin this law to make it appear racist, when it is not! These individuals are ignoring the facts that if you are in this county illegally you are and have broken the law! It's just that simple! Also, they fail to look at the same applicable laws in affect in Mexico! If you violate Mexico's border it is a Felony and 2 years in prison, if you are a repeat offender it is 10 years! What say these hypocrites if we impose those laws? Mexico also does not allow due process! In CA 45% of inmates in CA Prisons are illegals, how much is that contributing to our State deficit and financial woes?

These people also are ignorant of the fact that AZ has become a terrorist State perpetrated by these illegals who kidnap, drug/human trafficking and murder innocent Arizonians! This entire problem is a National Security Issue that the Federal Government has intentionally ignored and made AZ a victimized State! If these ignorant people are so bent out of shape about the new law, what say you if we just
have the AZ Governor declare a State of Emergency and order the National Guard to round up all Hispanics and sort things out after, would these hypocrites prefer that?


Ken Waters   April 30th, 2010 12:47 am ET

I'm really trying to wrap my brain around the fact that people are invading our country by the millions - every state in the country is now feeling it and these same people are receiving benefits and living better than my grandparents – not to mention my grandfather is a veteran - 92 years old strong. These same people are working under the tbale and not paying taxes receiving more money from the US than a vet.? People are saying 13-15 million – come on. More like 35-40 million undocumented people.

This next part is my response to something I earlier posted on facebook...

It's a double edge sword – I live in Los Angeles and have many blue collar friends that are getting crushed right now from the influx of illegal aliens – from all over the world. It's at a breaking point + when people are breaking the law and our own government doesn't recognize that and defend their own citizens from basically an invasion – US citizens are loosing work and being infringed upon. I understand the humanity issue but a friend of mine lost his house because he couldn't compete with the 10 dollar an hour wage. Is Washington sending a message to the citizens of the US that it's okay to break the law? It's okay for people who jumped a fence to get here to protest in our streets and call us racists just because they showed up and demand the same rights as our citizens + we let them collect on the benefits of the US tax payer. You know why because we are good people but Enough is Enough. No one is calling a duck a duck in fear of being called a racist. All our ancestors are immigrants who got here legally and learned English. I love this country but our commander in chief seems to forget that he is living the American dream because of the US but yet he defends non US citizens. What happened to protecting this country from any foreign or domestic threat. It's politics and none of them will say what I'm writing right now – I love the fact that the US is the most diverse country in the world but the world is taking our kindness for a weakness + it's time we stopped the bleeding and stopped our own citizens from being infringed upon. I am not a racist. I am defending the United States of America – the country that has given me and taught me so much. We welcome everyone but learn how to get here legally, pay taxes, reap the benefits, learn English. Be a true American and live the dream. This is for all my fellow Americans. I hope it gets around + I hope you all start yelling and screaming at the people that are breaking the law and playing the damn race card. I thought the point of Obama's campaign was for change and we where all finally one people. Can we loose the race card and actually call this what it is – A crime.


Warren Serkin   April 30th, 2010 12:47 am ET

Here's how Mexico handles their immigration issues. Do we boycott them???

-Foreigners are admitted “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

-Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their “sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

-Foreigners may be barred from this country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

-The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

Authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

/*- Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73) */

– A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

-A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

/*Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned: */

/*-Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)*/

-Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

/*Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons: */

-Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117) Foreigners who are deported from this country and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

-Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in this country — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

/*Under our country’s law, illegal immigration is a felony.*/ The General Law on Population says:

/*-A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123) */

/*-Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from this country instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125) */

-Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

/*Citizens of this country who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law: */

-A citizen of this country who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

-Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into this country will be fined, (Article 132)


Gigi   April 30th, 2010 12:47 am ET

They need a law that does not leave room for he said she said.
This law gives the police officers too much power to say " the person (s) acted suspicious so I checked it out, and they did not have proper documentation.
Anyone can say anything.
Proving it is much more of a challenge.
But what if the person just forgot their documentation? (Whatever maybe called for at that time ie license etc.)
They need a better way to determine who may or may not be illegal.


Mia   April 30th, 2010 12:49 am ET

America should use the e- verifier, prosecute landlords who house illegals and prosecute employers who hire illegals. This is United States Of America not Burger King "You Can Not Always Have it Your Way!"


Susan Hohstadt   April 30th, 2010 12:50 am ET

I live in Cochise County on the front lines of this battlefield. I live where the rancher was killed, where an illegal immigrant woman was found in the Huachuca mountains, where innocent Americans have been killed in car crashed casued by illegals, where my coworkers have called in the border patrol because drug smuggling was next door, where a woman was stabbed with a pen while the illegals stole her car, where our campsite was invaded by illegals. After 50 years I now own a gun. I am so angry at all the policticians and people who don't live here who know what is best for Arizona. 70 percent of Arizonans support this. I have Hispanic relatives I love dearly and they are here legally. We (my husband, myself, our 4 wheel drive club) have been pulled over (at gunpoint) by law enforcement. After they determined we were legitimate and not smuggling they let us go. We are Caucasian. The police and Border Patrol are doing there best to protect us – yes, it inconvenienced us, but thank God they are here. This is the age of computers – if you don't have your ID, law enforcement should have the technology to look it up. I live on the front lines of this war.. I support this bill. The federal Government has done nothing to protect us. I do not support harrassment of any race (some of my relatives are Hispanic and I have visited the Mexico and there a great people there-unfortunately not all of them are). For the Mayor of San Francisco, since you don't support the bill – you take the illegals and all the problems – not that all illegals are bad.


Julie from New Jersey   April 30th, 2010 12:50 am ET

America has hit another low point. Let's hassle anyone with a darker complexion and an accent. Let's solve illegal aliens by stopping anyone who fits the latino profile. How about fining anyone who hires illegal aliens to do their yard work, clean their homes, fix their homes, and look after their children... Fine them $1,000 each. No jobs for illegals = No immigration problem.

The demographics in Arizona has changed. Hispanics/Latinos represent ~25% (double the national average). They are just afraid to lose their majority!


Jan   April 30th, 2010 12:51 am ET

Do you remember before 1996 when you had to fill out an I-9 form? You had to prove your were legally able to work in this country. There was a hefty fine of 10,000 per person who you hired without being able to prove they have the right to work here.

The sad thing....NO ONE has enforced it.

We don't need new laws IF the federal government would enforce the laws already in force.

Since they haven't done so......the States have to protect their people. that's the State's job!


joey   April 30th, 2010 12:53 am ET

@DANIEL MIEZELIS I argree with you on some of what you said but americans shouldnt work for employers who under pay their empolyees, that said I belive alot of americans seen that they could make a better living off of the state, which is what big coorporations wanted so they could justify sending jobs over sea and hirirng illeagles. You now your self if the pay scale is $25.00 an hour , your not gonna work for $7.50 an hour. Its abuse what these other countries do to their workers. But were first in line to buy their product.


joel   April 30th, 2010 12:53 am ET

there ruining this country (illegals). Just to name a couple things hospitals and schools. If your soft with these aliens then it won't work. Round them up and send them back🙂.


tamara null   April 30th, 2010 12:54 am ET

look, I can understand what you are trying to say... I have been here my whole life... born here and I don't get to go to school for free and I don't get free health care either... I live in Texas and our boarder is almost just as bad as Arizona. The drug lords of Mexico are killing, raping and beheading not only their citizens but ours as well... Arizona had no choice but to do this... Texas should do it too.... They have no rights. just as we would not in a country that we were not born in... .. If I went to another country... pick any one of them and then went there and demanded free schooling for me and all of my family, health car, a drivers license, food stamps and then claimed they were being unfair to me..... that country would show me the boarder quicker than I could pay my own way to get there.,,, you all know that to be a fact..... I would also learn how to speak and make conversation in that county.. unlike the ones that come here. I hope you really understand what I am trying to say here... God please help us all in his love


Steve Kincheloe   April 30th, 2010 12:54 am ET

When has the government ever done anything that makes sense or workable? They pass all these laws and then they don't enforce it or it doesn't make sense.

Yes we need more border control. We need to enforce the laws we have on the books now. AZ has as much right to protects its citizens as a state. If the Feds were doing its job with immigration, then AZ wouldn't have to make this law. Aren't states automatous? We do have the right to protect our own citizens. CA and other states need to keep their nose out of it. If they don't like it, stay out of AZ.

Used to live in NM, but had to move away because of all the Mexican gangs. Had to move away to protect my children. This was in the 70s. I worked there in late 90s. It was unsafe on the streets for a white person at night because of the Mexican gangs. I was even threatened at work by a gang.


RD   April 30th, 2010 12:55 am ET

The problem is the U.S. continues to speak about tougher immigration laws, yet they don't enforce the ones we have in place. I personally know of individuals that use illegal identification sometimes working two different jobs under two different social security numbers. One of them is deceased. I have one friend who has tried for 11 years to obtain legal status and it has cost him thousands of dollars and still no U.S. citizenship. We border Mexico so I don't understand why we speak of racial profiling? Whats the difference when I go through security screening at the Airport? I may be searched or privately screened yet I don't complain because I am not a terrorist. I have nothing to hide. Unfortunately, whether its immigrants from South America or the immigrants from the Middle East. How do we prove who violates our laws that are already in place? More border patrol agents? This will only cost taxpayers more and more and more. should we put the military along the border? What is the answer?


johanna   April 30th, 2010 12:56 am ET

this law is ridiculous! i am a us citizen born in new jersey from colombian parents, if this law is passed in arizona and throughout the whole country can you imagine this country will disapper lawiinforcement have the abitlity to stop any latino out on the street and lock them up becuase there illegal. yes if they cause damage killed someone by all means send them back to there native country and do not keep them here so people do not have to complain because we all are payin taxes to keep them its the countres fault blame the country. did you all forget that we are paying taxes for sex offenders we provide them foood and all those things they have in jail and you guys cmplain that immigrants are the only people we are paying taxes for!!!! if it were not for latinos this countrywill not be standing all you see is latinos in crop fields every single day under the blazing sun picking fruits and vegetables that you and i eat on daily bases !!!!!! if you all have problems with latinos in this country provide more border control!!!!!!half of the people that come to this country is to work and support their family back in there native country because there are no jobs!!!!! we all are gods children and everyone in this country have equal rights and you all are contridicting those rules!!!!!!


Fred Pulver   April 30th, 2010 12:56 am ET

the police are the boots on the ground in this country. The police in leach locality offer the best and least expensive way to deal with the immigration problem. They should be supported.


Bill Gregor   April 30th, 2010 12:57 am ET

What does a robber or murderer look like? What does an illegal immigrant look like? I don't think in either case you can go on looks. Is the Arizona wrong? Why was it passed is more the question. Seems to me it is just out of frustration over the Federal Government failure to doing its job and some states feel they need to enforce the laws that exist.


Stacey M   April 30th, 2010 12:59 am ET

I think that if you are not an legal American or not born here. You either have to get a green card and learn our English, Reading and Writing . Also, I am sick of them using a foney names and social security numbers to get free benefits and not pay taxes and getting a way with it and no one from the GOVERNMENT IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS . I am tired of hearing POOR ME!! from the immigrants. If they want to stay here then LEARN OUR ENGLISH, WRITING, AND A GREEN CARD ITS NOT HARD!!! THIS IS NOT RACIST AT ALL THEY ARE NOT AMERICAN UNTIL THEY ARE LEGAL. SO HOW IS IT RACIST?


david mckamie   April 30th, 2010 12:59 am ET

yes, it is a good law.there are alot of illegels here, and they need to be stoped. if you was not born here you dont belong here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sko   April 30th, 2010 1:00 am ET

I am a Hispanic living in Nogales, AZ and judging by the violence i have seen just across the border, i will have to agree on this state law. i believe that this is not racist but a way to bring more security to the U.S. proving if you're American would be like proving if you are driving without insurance.


SteveinAZ   April 30th, 2010 1:00 am ET

I live in Arizona. I moved here in the last 5 years. Before I lived in this state, I had heard of immigration problems, but really didn't know how they affected every day life. Now I do. Now don't get me wrong–there are pleasant good neighbors that are hispanic(legal), and pleasant, good neighbors that are hispanic(illegal). As there are good Americans + Americans who break laws. 2 points here:
1) People who do NOT live in Arizona, have no right to voice an opinion on thei subject–it doesn't affect them.
2)Why not put it to the people (where it belongs)–put it to the polls and let the people in Arizona vote on it--and the majority should win out anyway–right?????


LadyT   April 30th, 2010 1:00 am ET

If you don't have anything to hide, you should be willing to show your ID(papers) when asked. The immigrants are crossing the border ILLEGALLY. There is a penalty to pay. If this is another way to detain them, so be it. Are the government going to stop officers from having traffic road blocks, to caught the criminals or people driving illegally or people who have warrants? No one is voicing that.

If a law is violated we must pay. If we (USA) stop employing them and giving them handouts such as welfare/food stamps/section 8 housing maybe they will stop crossing the border. They can't speak English, cutting lines, no manners and think we should have pitty on them because they can't speak English.

If you know your family member or friend is here illegally you should turn them in and if you don't this is the USA way of catching them. Don't hang out with family members and friends who are illegal immigrant and if you do just be prepared to show your papers and say GOOD BYE to them. If you have your papers you shouldn't have anything to worry about. if you left them at home or lost them. The officers have a database to provide them with your background info. I think they should ask anybody for ID that way they can catch criminals, people with warrants, people who owe child support, etc. no matter what color you are or how you look. Maybe we can become a better and safe Country. Getting more border patrol is good but what about the ones who are already in the country illegally?

We have security in the airports and no one has said anything about racism or our constitutional rights. Our bodies are violated during the security check, but there is nothing we can do.


russell   April 30th, 2010 1:00 am ET

A complete waste of time!


Gigi   April 30th, 2010 1:03 am ET

If possible let the law be in effect for a trial period only. (Say 12 months)
After that amount of time, let the stories from both sides be told or experiences. Let not the media cover anything up.
If there were abuses on either side let it be told.
Then access the situation & if the law worked revise it, tweek it & keep it.
This is only to help the state due to all the chaos going on over there.
Thanks President Obama & Government for moving on this situation asap.


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 1:03 am ET

If what some of the posters are saying is true. That some of the border states are basically under siege by Mexican drug gangs. Then we need to see more coverage of the situation in the news and if true we need a massive police or military response. If we allow gangs from another country fully root itself in our country, then we are in far more trouble than most U.S. citizens even realize.


joey   April 30th, 2010 1:04 am ET

Susan, your right on point. Its people like you that they should have on larry king live, not some comedian or politican. The news crews need to start real working people thats being affected by this. I live in Ky so I only know what the news reports and we all know that is hell to pick through to find the truth. Id like to see shakira and all the people who disagree with this law to take a week out of their busy schedule and go camping with no security, with in 5 mile of the border and then come back and lets hear what they have to say then.


scott graves   April 30th, 2010 1:09 am ET

As a citizen who traces heritage back to mid 1600's I feel I have another perspective to share, not often heard. I can trace my ancestry to an original group of "illegal" aliens! I am english/irish/scottosh... having come over to Ne England in the immediate wake of the Mayflower... I can even trace some real native american heritage since then, etc... actually, my family is now all races, creeds and colors here now, and I am very very proud of that! So if you want to hear another side (not extreme political or ideological, but just "american"), give me a voice. I, and no one in my family for 350+yrs has held an immigration card! "Grandfathered in"? Ultimately... I am very "lucky" and often feel it... and also empathy for others. I was born lucky, I guess, but am no less challenged to act American! I hope and wish that all USA citizens will chill and respect the aspirations and dreams of all who wish to be a part of the American dream. What are all those "white" folks afraid of? myself being white). I welcome diversity, of ideals, of dreams, of ethnicity, of culture, etc. We would be sooo bland, and like too many other countries if not all were embraced. I have traveled the world and know we are so fortunate with our wide democracy. It is complex. It is confusing... a challenge most other nations do not face. It is, at times frightening for those with limited vision. "Anglo-Saxon" Americans (myself included) need to reflect on our own family journey and be compassionate – think about the fallacies exposed in the movie Gangs of New York... and that was among "whites"! – those who "claim" native-status", I challenge you to beat my own family legacy. We are all migrants in life, moving through this world. Those of us who find ourselves in the great USA are fortunate beyond many/most in the entire world. And yet, we all must be aware of "threats" from abroad... this is confusing, but we must all learn to act compassionately and patiently.. and now I know I have gone to far, you will likely not share this online or on the air...... the issue is very complex and many who should, who have legacies long here, will not speak as I am doing. It takes too long to fit into a "sound-byte". My lasting wish is for patience and compassion... I believe we, whose ancestors "immigrated" here illegally back in the 1600's have the "highest hand" in this discussion, and I for one belive we must be more open and willing to admit others into our dream.... especially those we "kicked-out" of the southwest in our efforts to conquer coast-to-coast "America". Mexicans, "hispanics" and all Native Americans, from Tierra del fuego to Barrow AK, are "Americans" and they are he "ORIGINAL" Natives. This is/was their land. WE took it. We should not be surprised at ehir resurgence. We should be asking forgiveness and welcome their efforts to make us all better and more productive!

Scott. M. Graves Ph.D. – ancestor to Thomas Graves of Gravesend, England, 1640's.


Jan   April 30th, 2010 1:10 am ET

Okay...I got it. If the illegals weren't fleeing their country because of the discourse there.....how would they feel if 100,000 Americans invaded their country...taking their jobs, getting education and medical assitanced from THEIR government?

This country was based on immigration, but prior immigrants didn't want to make this THEIR country. They respected our laws, learned to speak English, studied and became legal citizens. They worked and contributed to this country to in return get education from the TAXES we paid to build this country.

Now, since they are so verbal with our country trying to fight the Arizona law........take this fight to your own government and have the discourse in your own country addressed so you can go home and have pride in your own country. You don't have pride here in our country. You expect us to "owe" you something. The bible states you are to abide by the laws of the land. That mean EVERYONE!

Arizone didn't make a mistake....their our protecting the citizens of the state.


jack   April 30th, 2010 1:10 am ET

The reason we have the problem of illegals in the US on this massive scale is the tactics of the Republican party to provide substandard pay to middle class and poor workers. All true citizens , of all ethnic and racial backgrounds are now paying the price. No need for profiling of any kind or random stops of Latin appearing people. Just fine people who hire undocumented workers, and prove citizenship if any government services are used. Those measures ,if applied to all people equally , across the country would solve the problem for the most part. I also favor a very limited amnesty of current residents, based on such things as a willingness to become legal citizens, a crime free record, length of residency, and if there are members of the immediate family born in the US. These measures would be fair. We also need to secure the borders.


Joe   April 30th, 2010 1:13 am ET

Helloooo. Am I missing something here? We are talking about illegal aliens, right? "Illegal" aliens? Illegal? Come on people. What is wrong with this picture? If you don't want to prosecute "illegal" aliens, is it because the main group of people protesting against it may be aliens witha vested interest in not wanting friends or relatives prosecuted? What if the "United Common Thieves of America" protested against the law against stealing and armed robbery in the state of California? Would other groups jump on that band wagon and do away with those laws because it would violate their civil rights? This is the same law the Federal government has on the books today. If we were to send all illegal aliens back to where they came from, what would happen to the 10% unemployment rate in this country? There could be a lot less Arizona citizens not losing their homes and everything they own because they are out of work and cannot pay their taxes. Of course the illegal aliens wouldn't have to worry about not paying taxes. They're here illegally. Is that okay? People talk about boycotting Arizona made products and visiting the state. There may be far more people willing to move to Arizona or purposedly buying Arizona made products because they agree with their laws. I cannot understand people protesting against a law that is meant to protect them and their loved ones? Readers may read this and say I am too extreme, but there are a lot of people that think the protesters are too extreme. What if the federal government gave them all amnesty and let them vote and let them draw unemployment if they are not employed? Give them free health care because they cannot afford it? Whose civil rights would be violated this time? I am not proposing to disregard anyone's civil rights but at what point do we consider th civil rights of the registered voters in this country? If the federal government does not want to enforce the laws of the country then maybe more people should move to Arizona. If people are so divided, then let the registered voters of the country vote to settle the matter. Of course then we would, probably, be violating the civil rights of those "illegal" aliens that cannot vote, but don't you think it would be interesting to see what would happen? It may be a real eye opener for a lot of people in this country. I am not suggesting we shoot them and pile the bodies along the roadside. Register them and let them come into the country legally. Then they could pay taxes and eventually, have all the rights the rest of the country is suppoed to have. That is, unless it would violate someone's rights for us to have rights also. Wake up people. Do you really want Mexico to become the 51st state?


Kevin of San Diego   April 30th, 2010 1:16 am ET

60% of American support Arizona's new law! It is becoming more, and more clear that open borders, and amnesty are supported so that Republican’s big business, and Democrat’s Demigod community activist leaders can continue to use illegal immigration for their own greed! Anyone against Arizona protecting itself from illegal immigration is for continuing to support the drug Cartels and Racist Mexican nationalist supporting a week USA Mexican border. Just because politicians here are racists and think we all can live without a border doesn’t make it true!
I suggest that all Mexicans form a group which disassociates itself with Al Sharpen and his views, and instead focuses on taking real responsibility within your own race to identify itself by fixing its own problems from within, rather than continuing to disperse its problems onto the rest of the races in our communities.
No one is racially profiling anyone! No one could profile you if you distinguished yourselves from the illegal immigrant by carrying proper identification! As you know once you get into a car in California the police have the right to search and demand ID without warrant from every race.
It is ironic that the Mexicans wanting a free ride want to identify themselves as the RACE or RAZA (racial pride) but when the lights are turned on, and the individuals are asked to identify themselves as individuals they want to scurry back into the safety of the shadows which racist Mexican activist support.
If your race really wants to stand up for your rights and freedoms here, you need to recognize the barriers and purposes that are part of those freedoms. Try passing a resolution for all legal Latin, and Mexican immigrants to carry federal ID; before the suppressive federal government requires all the Races to carry federal ID (this would be a real act of valor and heroism). Try enacting a special assessment tax on all Mexicans who are making over 250,000 a year including those who live in Mexico and own property and businesses here to relieve the overburdening that your race puts on social services and infrastructure!
Quit being cowards, and hiding behind all the other races that are not over burdening the USA infrastructure, and social services; and stand up, and clean your own houses and back yards before you point your finger at anyone else especially Arizona!
Tell your liberal guest to put up or shut up Larry!


laura   April 30th, 2010 1:18 am ET

yes it is racist... it is not the best way to solve a problem..it hurts to see people getting separated from their families and dreams because of their status migratory in this beautiful country.. i was born in mexico,and i think that if we work together all of us can help our countries... viva u.s.a y mexico🙂


joey   April 30th, 2010 1:20 am ET

@scott graves ok lets just let who ever wants to come to america and what ever they want sounds great. but after one week of that let me know how you feel about your new illeagle neighbors camped out in your yard, possibly giving your kids drugs or even worse killing you and taking your home. And by the way we killed the indians when we came over from europe, what do you think would happen to us if we just opened up the borders to everyone who wanted in.


Scott   April 30th, 2010 1:20 am ET

If you have nothing to hide, then what are you afraid of? If you are truly a proud American then you should have no problem talking to a representative of the United States of the State they represent.


Shawn   April 30th, 2010 1:21 am ET

Larry,

I've been forced to train Mexican engineers when working for a major appliance manufacturer. This manufacturer closed its plant in Indiana and moved production to Mexico.

Immigration name game

Illegal Aliens, Illegal Mexican, Un-document workers, Illegal Immigrants, to Immigrants. Criminal may be the next term for those that have broken our laws.

It's the law of supply and demand. They keep saying who will pick the fruit, plant the strawberries and so on. If the farmer can’t find someone to work for $6 then the pay $8, $10, $12 and next thing you know we have US workers wanting to work.

We did the work before they came and we do the work when the leave. They have some balls thinking we can do the work. In the mean time drive the highway, relax at the community center, play in the park and learn in the school built and paid for by my great grand parents.

Want the good life…..get in line with everyone else.


Gigi   April 30th, 2010 1:21 am ET

Recruit & arm the ones who want to stay to manage the borders. Let that be their room & board.
Train them to soldier & make the border their station of duty.


TR8Gram   April 30th, 2010 1:21 am ET

My ancestors did not come to this country through Ellis Island, but were here for the Revolutionary War and the War Between the States and were here before the white man. I am a true American, a proud Southern and proud of my Native American ancestors. Arizonia's law is doing what needs to be done to protect the state. If the federal government can't control the borders and enforce this country's laws, then it is up to the states to do it because the illegals are taking over this country and they are causing big burdens on the states' economy. As illegals, they are not entitled to have rights under our constitution and I don't believe that the intent of the racisal profiling law was written to protect illegal immigrants. They should not be grant amnesty nor given a means to citizenship as long as they are here illegally. They must go home, to where ever that is, and then apply to come into this country legally, through the proper channels. No one with a criminal record can apply for citizenship, that is the law, and as long as they are here illegaly, then they are criminals. I just don't understand why people can't understand this - it has nothing to do with their skin color, but our laws. They start gangs, they bring in drugs, they take advantage of our state's welfare, food stamps, free medical care and free education for their children all at the cost of the state.

We either do something about this problem now or we can all start learning another language other than English, because our grandchildren will be learning English as a second language - it is getting that bad. Why should our business move to Mexico, just wait a while and this country will be Mexico. Don't believe me, just look around most hotels at their staff, drive down the highway and look who is working on the construction crews. Go to most public schools, especially elementary schools, and look how many Spanish speaking children are there. We either fight now or just turn this country over to them and if we don't like it, then I believe we still might be able to move Australia, if they will have us.


Cindy   April 30th, 2010 1:23 am ET

I think harsher punishment is needed. illegals need to feel fear. Yes laura we have a beautiful country and want to keep it this way! Look at Miami ruined now. I being a citizen am scared to go in Miami.


johanna   April 30th, 2010 1:24 am ET

lady t in comment of your food stamps welfare you are completly wrong if latinos aare the only people on them did you forget that there are african americans and caucasions to did you forget since latinos are the ones working those who do not want to work are those who are on food stamps and welfare or those families that do not have enough money to support there children and family that they have to find help in food stamps and welfare i bet if you were without a job and had no other choice but to go on welfare you do it because you have to feed your family the majority of latinos that are mexican are to afriad to even step in a goverment office because they are afraid that they are going to be sent back to there country.! ignorant!!!!


peggy   April 30th, 2010 1:25 am ET

There are many banks , wireless companies and businesses that will only hire you if you are bi linquel. Mexico has very tough laws, Why do they think we have to pay for their childrens schools. medical and more. Everyone should learn English. We can same lots of money less printing in all thes languages. I bet Mexico does not do this. The Catholic Church should demand the Mexican government to take care of their people. We cannot keep this up look was Immigration is doing to the world. Limit the kids to 3 and no more China did it and look at them now. Since so many are here now they all have cars. This has tripled the demand for gas and has gas at an all time high. Europe is having the same problem. Some countries are not governing right and expect the rest of the world to pick up there slack. I just pray to God that everybody get right


Cindy   April 30th, 2010 1:29 am ET

I forgot to mention many different diseases are spreading now too. Bedbugs is making a huge jump and an article I read said they are coming from illegals when arriving to the states. I am not dishearted but i really don't want disease spreading because their lack of medical.


scott graves   April 30th, 2010 1:30 am ET

joey... are you afraid of what you cannot control?... I guess you should be... be very afraid! What a crock of fear-mongering. Go home, barricade your "fortress" and help turn this country into another fear-based culture.
It is just such fear of the unknown that lead us here. Get to know your neighbors... the reat of the country! Be their friends, and trusted neighbors. They will then protect you?! ...or maybe not! It is up to you to reach out. – smg


jack   April 30th, 2010 1:34 am ET

@peggy...Because as long as the very wealthy elite are served, and they can live in their gated communities, while the little people suffer no one seems to care much about the rights of citizens of whatever background. We need to insist that government start serving the needs of all citizens, just not Wall Street fat cats. The system has been corrupted to such an extent that we need things like lobby reform and standards of merit for elected officials. Pay raises should not be decided by Congress for themselves, but by an independent panel that evaluates their work each year. Sounds fair, but do you think we will ever see that?


scott graves   April 30th, 2010 1:37 am ET

OK... so it is complex.. o more name calling... sorry joey.
I do belive in border control, bit not intollerance, once migrants are here... myself having benefited.
I apologize to all Native Americans – Mexican Native Americans they are from the Americas are the not- for the ctions of my ancestors... and et, I am not them. I have a modern ethic- a compassionate one! And again, just yet..... we do need to make the process more transparent, honest, and meaningful- yet firm.


Mia   April 30th, 2010 1:42 am ET

Why is it when you try to enforce the law Hispanics are the only one's who come to the forefront as if their the only one's who are illegal, talking about racial discrimination, it's not racial discrimination it's the law.


Nadia   April 30th, 2010 1:46 am ET

Racism? It would be soft to say. My provision leads me to the World War II. Are we forgetting about that time and regime? Veterans can remind us.

War against those who is unprotected will multiply injustice. How many problems could solve condition of fear? Extremely wrong direction!


Cindy   April 30th, 2010 1:51 am ET

I go to the emergency room for example with insurance and who goes ahead of me mexican babaies no insurance. This has to stop- it is getting ridiculous now. from foor stamps-schools what next . I am just disgusted with these people/ cut a hand off for every felony and your illegal.


johanna   April 30th, 2010 1:54 am ET

this country is so ful of hatred thats why this country is the way it is.....911 happened and everyone find a reason to talk about afghan pakistan india ect and profile them as terriotist and latinos are the cause for your children buying drugs maybe its your childrens desicon whther or not they want to deal with drugs how about you get involved a little bit more with your childs life maybe they will stay away from drugs , now an increase of suppose bedbugs and you blame the immigrants how about you take your clothes to the laundry and wash them and buy yourself a brand new bed


johanna   April 30th, 2010 1:56 am ET

the us! is so ful of hatred thats why this country is the way it is.....911 happened and everyone find a reason to talk about afghan pakistan india ect and profile them as terriotist and latinos are the cause for your children buying drugs maybe its your childrens desicon whther or not they want to deal with drugs how about you get involved a little bit more with your childs life maybe they will stay away from drugs , now an increase of suppose bedbugs and you blame the immigrants how about you take your clothes to the laundry and wash them and buy yourself a brand new bed


Tay-Calif   April 30th, 2010 2:07 am ET

Honorable Larry King, THANK YOU for dealing with the issue of immigration in a fair way. Of all your guest, Gov. Richardson was the most knowledgeable, ethical, fair, and practical, (Alberto Gonzalez and Mancia were no help, though). Yes we need a Humane and Comprehensive with Legalization Immigration Reform NOW. Everybody seems to ignored the fact that THE VAST MAJORITY OF Latino Immigrants are good, productive, religious and hard-working people. MOST IMPORTANTLY that nobody is talking about, what the CAUSES ARE THAT FORCE PEOPLE TO MIGRATE. In the case of Mexico is Globalization and an unfair NAFTA treaty that has only benefited US and Canada, but has made Mexico even poorer. Plus the Drugs/Weapons BILATERAL traffic and its bloody war which is BOTH countries fault and responsibility, but ONLY MEXICO is doing something about it and paying with rivers of blood. AMERICANS TAKE YOUR SHARE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND instead of pointing fingers STOP USING DRUGS, AND STOP SELLING WEAPONS!


Smith in Oregon   April 30th, 2010 2:13 am ET

Republican congressman Duncan Hunter said he would support deporting U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants, adding that "it takes more than walking across the border" to be an American citizen.

He apparently does not support the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution which guarantees citizenship to all persons born in the United States.

The San Diego-area Republican congressman was video taped as he made these extremely racist comments as a guest speaker at a Tea Party rally in Ramona, California.

Such racist Jim Crow statements before a fervent Tea Party crowd reminds many of the White Supremacists urging their crowds to send all Africans back to Africa.

Americans are composed of many races, cultures, religions and personal values. These racist Jim Crow White Supremacist bible thumping speakers are certainly not a reflection of American values nor are they even vaguely supported by the US Constitution.


TR8Gram   April 30th, 2010 2:19 am ET

Johanna, I believe you are still missing the main point here - they are in this country illegally – ILLEGALLY! They have already broken our law, therefore they are criminals. If I break any laws, I get punished. Our constitution and Bill of Rights is for US Citizens, not for Cubans, Middle Easterners, or Mexicans. Yes, we fought the Mexicans for part of this country and we fought the Native Americans for the rest - right or wrong, we did and won. Now some of the people in this country must think it poetic justice to let the illegal Mexicans take it away from us without ever firing a shot! I work for a state government and due to lack of state income and overrun of expenses, I haven't had a raise in 3 years and have to take mandatory furlough days - and I see on the news where my state is having to lay off 1/3 of the teachers and double up the size of the classrooms because of budget cuts. This isn't fair to our children because their education will suffer. Why can't anyone see what this huge influx of illegal immigrants is costing us?


michael mitchell   April 30th, 2010 2:29 am ET

If Canada were the poor economically stressed country and they were illegally immigrating to the US, I think the reaction would be the same. I don't think it's racial. It is security of citizens from criminal elements and economic stress that is evoking his reaction. Are there some racist elements in this situation? Yes, but I suspect they are the minority compared to those who are upset over jobs and security.


TR8Gram   April 30th, 2010 2:46 am ET

Dr. Graves, I can't trace my ancestory back as far as you, but I can tell that you are an educator because of the "tolerance" you keep saying. I also realize that a lot of foreign students who come to the US to complete their education with visas don't always return to their citizenship countries after they get that education, nor do they apply for citizenship because they would have to "go home" to apply. The US is the bread basket of the world, has been and probably will be, if we still have the land to farm. But if we let everybody that wants the American Dream to come to this country, without going through the proper channels, just open our borders as it seems to be now, then how long do you think it will take before this country becomes too populated? To run out of "growable land?" To become like the country that they are running from? There are people in Europe and the Netherlands right now that have tried to move to the US and have tried to go through the proper channels and they are not permitted. England is having the same problems right now that the US is having and their citizens are also complaining about the influx of illegals. We first world countries can't become the "open door" to all the citizens of these third world countries - no matter how big their dreams are or how good life is here. Secondly, if they really wanted to be part of this country, they would try to learn our language instead of requesting that every medical facility, every state and federal government facility have everything written in Spanish and to have Spanish speaking people working there. I don't see Arabic written or spoken there, nor do I see Japanese or Chinese. Why do we not cater to them too? I mean it would only be fair, wouldn't it. Oh way, we are being racist to our Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, Korean, & Vietnam immigrants - I think they should protest and demand equal rights. Don't you?????


california   April 30th, 2010 3:21 am ET

Shame on anyone who wants to boycott arizona, Its about time that someone finally did something about this terrible problem . If the government did something years ago it would not have been as big a problem . And I want to know why these illegal think that they have any rights here . ' DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT ILLEGAL MEANS ! '


Chris   April 30th, 2010 3:51 am ET

Kudos to the Arizona Law. It is no different than when I am asked to prove my identity when writing a check or using a credit card. With today's identity theft issues I appreciate being asked to show ID. Instead I don't cry that it is racial profiling. Much the same with Arizona's law. Illegal Immigrants are ILLEGAL. People should appreciate the law. I wonder if I were illegally in Dubia if they would be sensitive to my illegal status and coddle me there so they don't hurt my feelings by asking to show ID.


Nick   April 30th, 2010 3:51 am ET

This law takes local law enforcements focus away from the SAFTEY of the local residents and switches their efforts to enforcing immigration...Isn't local law enforcements duties to protect and serve???
Then what is the purpose of border patrol, and US customs??? They are on 24/7 watch, have top knotch equipment and have plenty of bodies! Isn't it their dutie to patrol our borders and maintain order?
As US CITIZENS living in AZ, we not only have to declare our citizenship entering through the US port of entry, again at the US BORDER PATROL CHECK Stops/Points and now we have to prove our citizenship to any given law enforcement agents that have any suspicioins????
This gives Law enforcement the ability to stop, question, and interrigate any US Citizen THEY think might possibly be "illegal"
What happened to innocent until proven guilty??
And this law seems to only target Latinos. Are Latinos, brown people, the only people immigrating into the US??


Smith in Oregon   April 30th, 2010 3:53 am ET

Arizona Business owner Sheridan Bailey and a large group of fellow Arizona business owners saw the storm coming – the boycotts, the convention cancellations, the lost contracts, loss of tourist funds, bankruptcy, the national ridicule.

In the days before Arizona State Senate Bill 1070 passed, Bailey and a group of Arizona business owners tried to protect their fellow Arizonian's from the thunder and lightning, the wind and rain that would follow passage of the immigration bill. Instead, lawmakers and Gov. Jan Brewer rushed the Arizona State into the grip of Jim Crow and outdoors without an umbrella or galoshes.

"Arizona Republican Senator (Russell) Pearce (SB 1070's sponsor) refers to his opponents as the open-border crowd and the profits-before-patriotism crowd," said Bailey, president of Ironco Enterprises in Phoenix. "I'd take umbrage to that personally if it weren't for the fact that he frequently distorts, exaggerates or falsifies statistical information. I'm not surprised that he would lay claims about his opponents that were more appropriate in a (White Supremacist-Jim Crow) mob dynamic than in a civilized society."

I imagine Arizona business leaders will now work diligently to insure no Republican-Tea Party member is ever empowered to do that to Arizona's economic future again.


Ray Jordan   April 30th, 2010 3:55 am ET

The answer is right in front of us.... Lets ADOPT Mexico's immigration Laws and USE them HERE. What could be more simple, and how could anyone argue with their own Country's LAWS.


Tay-Calif   April 30th, 2010 4:06 am ET

Larry King, thank you for dealing with the issue of immigration in a humane and fair way. Gov. Richardson was the most helpful, knowledgeable, fair, ethical and practical ( Carlos Mancia and Alberto Gonzalez were no help, as usual). Yes we need a Humane and Comprehensive with Legalization Immigration Reform NOW. THE VAST MAJORITY OF Latino Immigrants are good, productive, religious and hard-working people. MOST IMPORTANTLY that nobody is talking about, what the CAUSES ARE, THAT FORCE PEOPLE TO MIGRATE. In the case of MX is Globalization and an unfair NAFTA treaty that has only benefited US and Canada, but has devastated MX's economy.. One more reason for the immigration in the case of MX is the GUT-WRENCHING BLOODY Narco war that has killed approx. 25,000 people in less than 5 years, and many of them are innocent. So instead of pointing the finger and jumping on the hate-wagon for once YOU ALL RACIST AMERICANS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ROLE ON THE WAR ON DRUGS, STOP USING AND DEMANDING DRUGS, AND S T O P SELLING weapons without extrict background check! that end up in the hands of the Cartels !!!


Chris   April 30th, 2010 4:09 am ET

TR8Gram – I agree with you that if we open our doors freely, we will become the same place those are coming to America are trying to get away from. I would also like to add something.

Isn't it great when you dial a local number and the answering system indicates 1 for English and 2 for Spanish? Oh I just thought of something. If 2 is for Spanish all the time, won't that offend those who come to America and don't learn English? I mean, why should "Spanish" always be the 2nd choice. I think we better create a law that offers Spanish as the 1st choice 50% of the time. Maybe law makers can call a special session to get this done asap. I mean we don't want to offend anyone now.... so let's get on this right away. Chop chop.


Ray Jordan   April 30th, 2010 4:10 am ET

Google "the guy from Boston" and look up "HARSH LAWS"....It is my understanding that Federal law says that all ADULTS 18 and over ARE required to carry I D at all times. If stopped by police and we forgot our ID at home, then what is their next move to prove we are who we say we are ??? How do the police determine we are Americans, and not wanted for breaking the LAW ??? HOW would Mexico treat Americans if we were in their Country ???


alex   April 30th, 2010 4:14 am ET

this law is wrong for a few reasons,

first of all i have no problem with getting immigrants who hurt people who drug deal or gang bang etc.. getting arrested and deported. when they chose to break the laws that hurt people or take things from people send them back they don't deserve to be here.

but my problem is that this law seems to only target latinos. it says nothing about checking papers for a russian immigrant or a chinese immigrant. if they stop someone with a jamaican accent their papers wont be an issue. if your gonna make a law enforce it across the board.

second is that this will make latino communities quiet about a crime that they see in fear of being deported. if an immigrant who works and goes home stays out of trouble witnesses a murder he/she wouldn't give up key evidence in fear of being deported.

i pay my taxes and i know how much it cost to house a person in prison. and locking them up is too much money and deporting them will just give them a chance to get back in.

i think we should just tax all of them, if they can provide proof within 30 days that they pay taxes let them stay. cause i mean lets be honest this argument about immigrants taking jobs isn't true, what jobs do they take? janitor, gardening? jobs no one else wants anyways. theres no immigrants in the stock market or real estate.

just tax them and screen them for national security. just means more money for america. if thats not the answer theres has to be a better way for most people to get what they want. (you cant please everyone) this law just seems to set us back 60 year when someone can be stopped and check (i saw check cause i wont go as far as harass) for looking a certain skin color.

dunno thats just my opinion
im sure alot of bloggers will disagree but the main argument from none border states is that we spend to much money on them.
*a key fact published today is that arizona's crime rate has gone down 3-5% in the last 4 years. so i dont get the crime argument. im sure border towns feel the works though.


Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   April 30th, 2010 4:15 am ET

The US as a soverreign nation have the right to curb illegal immigrants as it deems fit.
I wish my country would do like-wise.
We have illegal immigrnts amounting to millions. We send them back, overnight boat loads arrived.
Our illegals are from indonesia, Philippines, Myanmar, Nepal, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Africa, india, Albania, Bosnia, Pakistan and all the stan-stan countries.
Most do contribute to our booming economy like doing construction work and be domestic maids and other menial jobs which our pampered people will not do.
But some of the Indonesains are armed robbers and murderers who contributed to the burgeoning crime in our country.
They have set up Indon enclaves and mini-Indon colonies in our country. Some are 2nd generation illegals who already benefited from,our country's free education.and health systen.
The Filinos, with 65 % population, almost controlled our state of Sabah (formerly Borneo) which caused a headache to our authorities.
The Indons and the Filipinos mostly owned faked IDS and use them even to vote in our elections.
There are Chinese Nationals who came on student Visas and involved in the flesh trade.. There are now an influx of African students taking advantage of our cheap college fees. They are very attractive to our girls. Many fell prey like surrending their body and their life-savings to them. They take the money and run home.
imagine the scenario for such a small nation like ours.
What more for a big nation like yours.


Flor   April 30th, 2010 4:15 am ET

I support the new law 100% Comment from Eugene Oregon:
"America is hungry with cheap labor" This statement tells me that the caller is ready to exploit the illegals just to help the economy.

Why do we need to solve a problem through illegal ways? Why do we need to exploit these people? By capturing them and return them back to their country, we help them away from exploitation and possible abuse by those who will intend to abuse them.

We can not live in illegal ways to boost our economy! We can not allow these businesses to explout these people. We can not continue allowing business to give these jobs to illegals and take it away from legal workers. If we allow illeglas to be legalized, why do we then need to require too much documentation from those who are coming in here in the legal ways?

The message of Nevada's governor and those who opposed the new AZ law is an screaming message that it is ok to come to the United States illegally bec. you get more protected than the legals.

That if you invade a house in the boarder of Mexico and AZ, the house owner can not hurt you bec if they do, we will put them in jail. However, if you killed them, it is their lost because we can not prosecute you because you are illegals. Please have New Mexico Gov. send me his comments to this.


Flor   April 30th, 2010 4:25 am ET

Hey commentator from Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia . What your country should be doing is stop the mass production of pirated CDs that your business owners smuggled and flooded the Street of Manila and Makati. It is the Phils. Authorities headache too. Do not specifically name these countries especially if I know that your country is a piracy place.


Ray Jordan   April 30th, 2010 4:26 am ET

The Mother of my 3 daughters came to the U.S.A. in 1957 legally. Her father came here the year before. He was sponsored by his American brother-in-law in 1956. He came here the legal way and paid his dues. His son served in the Army. They all carried Green Cards until they became U.S. citizens. They did not arrive here as CRIMINALS. That's the only way folks....


Caroline Ingham-Rhodes   April 30th, 2010 4:41 am ET

I agree with this law. My husband and I were Not Citizens. The female singer stated that the mexicans pay into the tax system. That is not correct. All that anyone can get is a SIN card which reads NOT FOR EMPLOYMENT. This was given to us because we needed a SIN number to open a Bank Account. My husband is English and I am Aistralia. We travelled a lot between Australia and the states due to have businesses in both countries. These mexicans work for cash. Paying no tax, however they work for low wages BUT do still their money on consumer things.

The immigration does not take into account racial issues. I was body searched due to my travelling frequently. I am white, a business woman.

There is so much more I can add to this issue. However trying to keep it short.


concerned voice   April 30th, 2010 4:52 am ET

i dont know about arizona, but here in the great state of ohio, there are too many illegal immigrants. i imagine the problem is 10x worse in az and i applaud them for upholding a federal law that the white house will not enforce. 6 out of 10 people at a factory i worked at a couple years ago were illegal, and even told me they make their money and take off to mexico for the winter and live like kings. INS came, and audited one night, my company got fined quite heavily, and many of the people i came to know got deported, but i wouldnt cry over it because they came here the wrong way.

i just saw carlos mencia make an ass of himself on larry king live, what a joke. you came into the system legally a year ago, and now you advocate people being allowed to come to this country illegally? your jokes are not funny, but your policies sure are.

why is everyone making this into a race war? i had a feeling this is what it would come to, and boy was i right. im white, but i have latino blood in my family, and i dont go calling them illegal immigrants or as mencia does make a joke of their heritage, but if they were in this country illegally, i would sure say something about it and urge them to come here through the front door not the back door

the fact of the matter is, when people from another country invade illegally the consequences can be dire. we are losing more and more money every day in a bum economy and Mr. Barack Obama wants to tell me that a law he was sworn to enforce, and wont, cannot be enforced by a state that bears the brunt of the immigration problem. shame on you race war mongers, and shame on the administration for not upholding the law you swore to enforce.

what is this country coming to when even the president willfully permits people to break the law

and

why dont we all just go to mexico and tax their system hard and ruin their economy? sounds good to me


Boise guy   April 30th, 2010 5:33 am ET

Using the racist label is simply avoiding the bigger issue: Why do we allow people to enter this country illegally? Go anywhere else in the world andyou must follow their laws or be deported - period. Without border protection we simply raise the risk to all citizens.


dean   April 30th, 2010 5:38 am ET

i am an american citizen living in germany and it took me 13 long hard years of trying to get legal residency!!!

my german girlfriend can by no means legally live in the USA unless we marry.
why should mexicans or anyone else have a waiver???
sincerely,


Ray Jordan   April 30th, 2010 5:46 am ET

Sorry, A little about me, I am a Vietnam Vet. My wife and I are retired and in our mid 60's. We are full time RV'ers and travel throughout the U.S. and Canada. My oldest daughter married a man from B.C. Canada. He came here illegally and was deported when he caused a problem where by the police were called in ( Alameda Ca.) My grand kids (now in their 20's) have to go to Canada to visit their dad. We like to shoot pool and were in Salem OR. on Lancaster Dr. in a pool hall. A long way from Mexico, but yet with over 100 to 120 people there, we were the only Americans ,NO English was heard...... We spend a bit of time in Hollywood Florida, and Dec. through April it's our understanding that over 100,000 French speaking Canadians from Quebec City take over the area. They have their own Banks,Bars,Medical, etc. Many do not speak American.(English). They come here LEGALLY with ID and papers...... MY great grandparents and grandparents picked their own crops because they did not have the freebies (welfare, food stamps, free Medical) handed to them..........When an area is inundated by illegals, many are taken advantage of, become victims of crimes that they can't report out of fear, many turn to crime to get by and some were criminals before they came here..... WHY should Americans not get hired for a job because they don't speak Spanish. Could you see how that would fly in Mexico. We have been in Wal-marts where the greeter at the door DID NOT speak English.... Americans are scared and fed up with our Government NOT doing it's JOB, protecting our Country...... Our tax money is being pissed away faster and faster than they can take it from us... AT this rate it will not be long before we are sneaking over the Mexican border looking for a better LIFE. The boat will only hold so many people before it starts to take on water and sink to the bottom.... SIGN IN AT THE BORDER and be counted. DON'T start your life in this country as a CRIMINAL....


Lizbeth   April 30th, 2010 5:48 am ET

I was born in SouthAmerica but I'm an American Citizen. I do not see what is the problem with having to prove that you are legal. There should be an ID card that shows your legal status (if you're citizen or have green card, or visa). I would be happy to carry that ID card. or your status should be added to your driver's license. I love this country and I did everything legally to get here and I follow the law. I oppose people who don't follow the law and want to be here ilegally. There good are people who are just looking for a better life but there are also evil people who bring crime and drugs and problems. The law is the law. I think policemen in Arizona are just trying to do their job. If you are legal why should you be offended if you're asked for ID? why do people take this so personally and get so offended? I am so happy to be an American citizen, and I would be happy to prove that I am. Latin people should relax and get a grip. You're welcomed into this country and given so many oppotunities you could only dream off in your original countries. Don't take things so personally. This illegal inmigration problem has to be stopped.


dean   April 30th, 2010 5:52 am ET

ASKING SOMEONE FOR THEIR PAPERS IS NOT A VIOLATION OF THEIR RIGHTS!!!!!

IT IS THE RIGHT OF ANY COUNTRY TO CONTROL.

i travel often internationally. my papers are questioned regularly!!!
i'm brown and dark, but im an american of italian decent.


jose morfin   April 30th, 2010 6:12 am ET

like it of not Mexican's are a big part of our economy. we work pay taxes and spend out hard earned money here. as bad as things are going we could not stop our economy just because of racial profiling. for years we have closed our eyes and turned out back on the money that came in to this country from drug business this had a big impact on the growth of your nation. since when have we started saying no to money. most successful countries developed with drug money i am not saying its a good thing but we have done it. why is it now a bad thing? as Mexicans we have helped this nation and not all of us were legal at one time. Lets see how Arizona's economy runs without our business we spend millions i guess other states like California could use it.


Sseremba Ronald   April 30th, 2010 6:19 am ET

100% not racist, immigration law is right coz no one should be above the law. I think the reason why critics say its time to go to court is becouse critics use most of the immigrants to move their businesses minus them getting involed phisically.


jose morfin (California)   April 30th, 2010 6:39 am ET

Many say we get here and go to the welfare office and pick up a check and food stamps. I have lived here most of my life i come from a family of 12 my mother and father worked year round. they raised us with not government help. we never had food stamps or any thing of that sort. i have know many families that are American and lived off of food stamps and welfare. the woman wood pop kids like JOLLY RANCHERS while their husbands stayed home drinking their ass off. I think they have a term for that lets see (TRAILER TRASH) yeah i think that's what it is. legal or illegal we can accuse each other for things we do but in the end we are all guilty of the same crimes not only Mexicans break the law or take government help. If not so Americans don't kill, rape, or kidnap people. lets be realistic people!


Cindy   April 30th, 2010 7:47 am ET

a illegal mexican if commited with a felony shud have a leg cut off and sent back. Second violation shud be the other leg so they can't cross again.

If there moving from AZ is our other states in dnager now? Adopt this law in every state. They are use to being on the run if we dont.


Ted   April 30th, 2010 8:09 am ET

@ Janet Rosenberg-Herrera

Discrimination did not end with the Nazis, as you thought!
The zionists exported it to the Middle-East, created a jewish state on arab land, have laws that discriminate the people who lived there for 1,500 years. Israel is the only apartheid state left on this earth.
I hope this claered up your doubt.


Ted   April 30th, 2010 8:40 am ET

I have real problems understanding this whole uprising against a simple law that came in the 24th hour.
Since our politicians talk a lot in Washington, but have no guts to fix this problem, I applaud the governor of AZ for her courage.

I personally have no problem with a police officer politely asking for my papers, he is paid to do it!! We spend a fortune on different law organisations, complain about the criminality in the border states, but tie the hands of the police when they try to do their jobs.
Let´s face it, we are not in the 18th century when any immigrant was welcomed, because we had wide open spaces with little population.
Now we are a modern state and criminals crossing the border must be dealt with swiftly.

At the same time those who hire illegal immigrants also commit a crime, therefore they should be dealt with! We cannot expect to stop illegal immigration when they have a job waiting for them.

We can look at Switzerland for a good example, they let workers come into the country for a limited time and they must go home after the work is done.
We could sign up seasonal workers in Mexico, give them a permit for six or eight months, or even a year, after that they must go back home and can apply again.

The law that allows children born to anyone in the USA to become automatically a citizens must be changed.
There is an agency that brings rich pregnant women from India to give birth here in Florida so the child will be american. I am sure our founding fathers did not have in mind this kind of practice to obtain US citizenship.


Ted   April 30th, 2010 8:47 am ET

When we are at it, we also should stop all illegal immigrants!
New York city if full of them, chinese sweatshops, russian gangsters who jumped ships, africans driving taxis, just to name a few.
Any larger city is full of them.


Skipbo   April 30th, 2010 10:16 am ET

I have nothing against legal immigration, but when it comes to illegal aliens then we need to take a stand. I think Arizona has taken a step in the right direction as long as they stick to the letter of the law and not profile. Illegal aliens has been a long time problem. When I was in the military in Arizona in the mid 80's I knew of a military member who enlisted using a green card. One requirement was to become a legal citizen. To make a long story short the person in question was in the country illegally and purchased a green card in Mexico to get here. He joined the military and was running guns to Mexico he purchased in the states. When he was discovered he quickly ran to Mexico. Now all of the states and whiners who think it is unjust should mind their own business and let Arizona clean up its state.


Dale Phillips   April 30th, 2010 10:40 am ET

Re the Arizona Immigration Law. As an American citizen I am happy to see at least one of the 50 states takes illegal immigration seriously. I am now retired and living in Hungary. During my career I have lived and worked in 5 different countries (Germany, Norway, Belgium, Singapore and Japan). All of these countries require you to have an identity card on your person at all times. These cards are only issued to legal immigrants holding work permits and living permits.
I never considered it racial profiling. Nor did it have any relationship to sex, color or religion. It is simply common sense to be aware of the persons living in your country. All o0f these countries have democratic governments and, in my opinion are safer places to live than the US.
Maybe the US could learn something if they were willing to listen to other much smaller governments.
Sincerely,
Dale Phillips


fedup   April 30th, 2010 10:46 am ET

Hi Dee
Israel was given an amount of land by un charter 262, read it
They are greedy and want more. Because of Israel we are at war in the middle east and we have a trillion dollar defecit because our politicians are bought off by Israel lobby groups that provide votes in this country to those that give 3 bill of our hard earned tax dollars to Israel so Israel can turn around and buy war needs to [practice racism of the worst sort and aphartied, have you been thee lately, Dee??? I suggest you go see all the vacant land between Jerusalem and Dead Sea that Israel could develop and expand their so called settlements within their borders, but they choose to provoke the Palestine side by taking more land to fly in immigrants from Russia to steal land that Palestine holds the deeds to on the west bank, so Israel has plenty of land and has every right to exsist in peace on their own land, but they dont want peace and they dont want Palestine to exisit. Nobody is trying to attack them, they bring the attacks on themselves by acting worse than Hitler did, so perhaps you would like to live on the west bank and get spit on at checkpoints and herded through another line just because you are not from Israel, so dont comment until you live there and now our useless president and senate, congress are doing the same thing with our southern borders

They want votes from the large group of hispanics in this country, so they are willing to put Calif, Arz, new Mexico, texas in a defecit and take away teachers and health care from those of us that are legal citizens in order to not upset the illegal immigrants that are here that cry on the shoulders of the groups that are here and are voting, so that is how this sick cycle works

it is not racism, it is called enforce the laws here by keeping those out without proper papers, and send those that you find through legal means, ie, traffic stops back to where they came, be it mexico, canada, Europe because you caught them with no tail lights, or runnign a stop sign, but when they were asked like every American is asked at a traffic stop or when applying for schools to show id and or insurance papers and then they cannot and then papers are run and it is found out through legal means not by color of skin or by accent, that those involved in running the stop signs are here illegally, then send them back, too bad, too sad, IT IS THE LAW votes or not and also save the 3 bil we send to Israel and tell her to live wihtin her borders, share the land, make peace and support themselves
THE USA IS NOT THE BANK TO THE WORLD HELP YOURSELF SO THEN YOU CAN HELP OTHERS WE CANNOT HELP OTHERS IF OUR OWN CHILDREN ARE NOT EDUCATED LIKE IT SEEMS YOU ARE NOT AS THERE ARE NO CHOSEN PEOPLE AND NO CHOSEN LAND WE ARE ALL EQUAL BUT WE ALL HAVE TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AND THE LAWS OF WHERE WE LIVE AND OR VISIT, YOU ARE SO SICK IF YOU THINK ISRAEL OR ANYONE IS CHOSEN, RACIST TO THE TEE DEE


fedup   April 30th, 2010 11:02 am ET

JanetRosenberg

I am well aware of the constitution
That is my point, that went over yoru head. It must be ammneded, hard work or not as we all know it doe snot matter where the child is conceived, I was making a point that they plot these scams from mexico and then come here illegally just so their child will have rights that they get when born here because our constitution was written well before the scams began and our founding ftahers did not have the vision that we would become broke due to these scams, so hello, ammend it, hard work or not, because I love people from all over, but if they are here illegally my child should not loose one penny of education money so the schools can waste tax dollars and print everything in two languages, wake up ink is expensive and this is just one small example of how our budgets are all in the red, esp in Texas, Calif, Arz, etc, etc
We do dumb things to support illegals and enough is enough, so ammend the constitution and KICK ILLEGALS OUT FROM ANY AND EVERY COUNTRY AND THEIR ILLEGAL CHILDREN PARENTS DOGS GRANDPARENTS BASED ON LAW NOT RACE

AND YEAH TED, AT LEAST THERE IS ONE FELLOW AMERICAN THAT GETS IT ISRAEL IS HITLERS BABY


Kevin of San Diego   April 30th, 2010 11:22 am ET

What if the Chinese were invading Arizona at the same rate as the Mexicans, and causing the same problems as the Mexicans are causing. Tell me what all these liberal Educators, Politian, and Mexican activists would be doing if we imported Chinese into the USA at the same rates as the Mexicans are coming into the USA illegally? They would all be protesting that the Chinese were taking their jobs! Don’t be tricked into thinking that this is about human rights! It is solely about vicious corrupt Mexican, Latino socialists trying to do all they can to hold onto what they think is their right to entitlements from the real tax payers of the USA! 60% of Americans support Arizona’s new laws, 70% of Arizona support the law. Unless Mexicans want to share their entitlements with as many Chinese that would enjoy the same opportunities they should shut up!


Cristobal Morfin (California)   April 30th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

I think you people should deport all illegal immigrants so you guys could see you guys really need them in your economy. they are the ones that have this economy running. you guys worry that they crossed a river and fence. you guys crossed the whole dam atlantic ocean. and they are the bad people? who is going to harvest your guys crops and work your lands? who is going to do the work all you lazy trash dont want to do? believe it or not you guys really need them.


Cajazz76:24:8   April 30th, 2010 3:52 pm ET

Total acrimony and hypocrisy if asked what Jesus would do. How can a nation still deeply ingrained with profound bias entrust unto a states law enforcement agencies the responsibility to insure its citizens will not be the targets of racial profiling? That is the catalyst of debate for individuals, not the illegal immigration beyond the borders. The bigger problem is dividing the country because one state has separated the duties and responsibilities of the INS, a federal entity and, by proxy, seceded its attachment from 49 other states. There is more bias attitude exposed and Christian piety in peril. How did we ever obtain that land on our southern borders?


Cajazz76:24:8   April 30th, 2010 4:30 pm ET

Having the state of Arizona takeover the responsibilities of the Federal Government, specifically the INS, would be akin to having the Southern Baptist Convention write the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, along the all the Civil Rights Bills from 1864 and forward.


Cajazz76:24:8   April 30th, 2010 5:09 pm ET

What is "reasonable suspicion"?.......A police and former member of the Armed Forces, who served two deployments to the Middle East, recently committed his third assault on a suspected DUI detainee. He deemed it "reasonable" to do so. The police chief, he serves under, deemed it was "reasonable" to send him to a Behavior Modification Seminar to alter his behavior....The DUI suspect deemed it "reasonable' to file suit against the police department and the police officer who assaulted him. A judge deemed it "reasonable" to hear the case. It is "reasonable" to expect a trial will take place, and if all are found guilty, it is "reasonable" to expect a judgement in favor on the complainants behalf and "reasonable" damages to be awarded to him.


john walsh   April 30th, 2010 6:18 pm ET

We are talking about something that is illegal here are'nt we ??????????? i don't care who the people are; green,orange,yellow,red,white,black,they are breaking a LAW //// ask all of them,Ita.,iris.,jap.,blck.,germ.,and every person from another Country that were the first ones to come here back in the day; they all had to go thru it one way or another, but most of them did'nt sneak into the Country illegally. How about our poor native Indian's how they were treaded /// and they were here first .Breaking a Law is breaking a Law ///////


Cristobal Morfin (California)   April 30th, 2010 6:43 pm ET

you guys are worried of immigrants taking over. you guys are also taking over and invading in the middle east


Dodie   April 30th, 2010 8:50 pm ET

@ Cristobal Morfin (California)

And the beat goes on....................


Dodie   April 30th, 2010 8:52 pm ET

Arizona is now reporting that a Sheriff was just shot with an AK-47 from illegal immigrants. I would strongly suspect that person with the AK-47 is part of a drug cartel.


John   May 1st, 2010 3:47 am ET

yes if this continues more staess will adopt the law. I just nevr reaaly cared for them to tell you the truth. they shack up 10 to a truck, 20 to a house and live dealing drugs. I dont get it.


concerned voice   May 2nd, 2010 4:01 am ET

to
"Cristobal Morfin (California) April 30th, 2010 12:42 pm ET
I think you people should deport all illegal immigrants so you guys could see you guys really need them in your economy. they are the ones that have this economy running. you guys worry that they crossed a river and fence. you guys crossed the whole dam atlantic ocean. and they are the bad people? who is going to harvest your guys crops and work your lands? who is going to do the work all you lazy trash dont want to do? believe it or not you guys really need them."

obviously you jumped the fence buddy, you say we are lazy as americans but you bleed us dry and obviously need us to support your lazy border jumping self, if you were truly superior you would have come here LEGALLY

we came here, chartered on a boat, made a small settlement, and worked with the indians for the common good, sure the indians got screwed on the deal back when but now they live on nice reservations and rake in dough through casinos and not paying taxes, you guys send people like carlos mencia here to crack jokes about your background and everything you should hold sacred, why again should we help you?

i agree with you whole heartedly, i think we should deport all ILLEGAL immigrants too, if you want to come to america and live among the land of the free, you need to follow our laws

and your view on us needing them in our economy? what in gods name do they do for our economy but bleed us dry? working in our factories and fields for a few months a year and taking that money back to mexico does not do a damn thing for us, and its certainly not doing anything to promote mexico and other south american countries growing their own economy, they are living on our dollar

i would gladly harvest my own crops and work my own land but you guys take all of the jobs from us, i have a degree in computer science and 10+ years of experience in the field and cant find a job here in ohio, so i would gladly do manual labor if it meant supporting my family

so who needs who? ha


Cajazz76:24:8   May 2nd, 2010 3:49 pm ET

As an influx of immigrants migrated into a nation, inhabited by 'savages', the Europeans, starving for personal and religious freedoms, destroyed the cultures of an already growing nation. We chopped and we burned their societies in the name of a bountiful God, and placed them onto small plots of barren land and starved them of their birth rights.

Before we became an industrialized nation, we were a nation of farmers expanding westward to broadcast and reap all that was sewn by its native inhabitants, long before the United States of America was ever tabled as a nation.

In 1846 we began to sew the seeds of Imperialism in Mexico, watered it with our ethnocentrism, cultivated our jingoism, fertilized it with genocide, grew nothing but our weeds of xenophobia, to sell in a market place of agoraphobia, only to lose all profit to racial and social phobias.

Between 1846 and 1848, two fruitful neighbors, the United States and Mexico, went to war. It was a defining event for both nations, cultivating a continent and forging a new identity for its peoples. By the war's end, Mexico lost nearly half of its territory, the present American Southwest from Texas to California, and the United States became a continental power.

The legacy of any important historical event must be calculated from many viewpoints. The discussion of the legacy is a continual transformation because history, after all, is never irrevocable, as future generations confront for themselves the forces and ideas that shape our lives.

The issues raised during the U.S.-Mexican War are ones that are still valid today: the contradiction between stated ideals and actual practice; the distinction between a "just" and an "unjust" war; the ways citizenship is defined and identified in a multicultural society; and the challenges in building progressive and democratic nations.

Now, we are starving to find a soluble resolve due to the inundation of both legal and illegal immigration across the borders of The United Mexican States, drowning from a hydrophobic irresponsibility of a Congress mired in the muck of putrid partisan politics, unable to hoe the legislation necessary to bear an edible solution. Before the eyes of the world, we, as a "civilized" society, are all eating crow, still salted by racial divide, unable to palate what true democracy is, universally undefined.

We look skyward for answers wondering if we are not alone, fearing of becoming the seeds for an invading alien entity. Who would want to plow through and harvest all we have failed at cultivating on a planet strewn with the fragmented roots of a silly human race? cajazz76:24:8


Sharon   May 6th, 2010 9:18 pm ET

I really respect Arizona's new imiigration policies. I do believe someone needs to take control of this country again. The United States has become an embarrassment nation. We have lost control of our own constitution. My grandparents we immigrants to this country and did it legally. They entered through ellis Island and were registered and became legal citizens. What was ever wrong with this policy that we don't use it anymore? I don't have a problem with anyone immigrating if they do it legally. When illigal immigrants come into this country and take over our constitution and demand respect and recognition, then there is a problem. They even want their native language to become the primary language of the United states. Many commit crimes, some serious and we are supposed to give them legal representation under our criminal justice system and for free, many apply for healthcare benefits from the Public Welfare System and they get it. I am disappointed in the American people that we allowed this to get this far. If you notice, all the interviews on television are opinions from the Latino culture. Has anyone thought to ask the Native American what they think? There were forced to live on reservations, and this immigrants come here and live where ever they want. What is wrong with this country? My dad was a full-blooded Cherokee, and didn't get half the benefits from this country that the illgal's do. My dad was a WWII Vet that went through five invasions of the Battle of the Buldge, he fought hard for this country and recieved two Purple Hearts. He would turn over in his grave if he witnessed today, what America has become. Wake up People!!


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