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March 22, 2010

Tonight on Larry King Live!

Posted: 07:00 PM ET

Michael Moore!  The controversial filmmaker called the health care bill “a joke” – but told the Democrats to pass it anyway!

What’s he thinking NOW?

PLUS

Plus, Rep. Bart Stupak on the “baby killer” comment during last night’s debate.

Why did he change his vote from “no” to “yes”?

AND

The health care discussion continues with Dr. Andrew Weil, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Ben Stein, Leslie Marshall and Penn Jillette.

What the health care overhaul means for YOU!


We want to know what YOU think!

Is the health care bill a milestone – or a mistake?

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A. Smith, Oregon   March 22nd, 2010 7:02 pm ET

CNN war zone camerawoman Margaret Gipsy Moth dies from cancer.

Outstanding CNN photojournalist Margaret Moth, who had survived a near-fatal gunshot wound to the face while filming sniper alley in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the wars there in the early 1990s, died Sunday after she had suffered from colon cancer for three years. She was 59.

Her CNN colleagues said she inspired them with her toughness, humor and quirky style that included always wearing black clothes that went with her jet-black hair, thick black eyeliner and combat boots that she often wore while she slept in war zones.

Moth also covered the Israeli invasion of the West Bank in 2002, the rioting that followed Indira Gandhi's assassination in 1984 and other conflicts around the world, including several in the Middle East, according to CNN When militiamen opened fire on protesters in Tbilisi, Georgia, CNN said she stood her ground and kept her camera running.

RIP Margaret Gipsy Moth, Thank-you for your outstanding contributions and courage to bring CNN viewers face to face with conflicts and combat operations around the world.


A. Smith, Oregon   March 22nd, 2010 7:04 pm ET

Billions of American taxpayer dollars are lost to fraud by corrupt MD's who submit claims for non-existent MRI's, CAT-scans, diseases and routine exams. American's new Health Care bill places stiff regulations and policing on MD's that own their own MRI and other diagnostic medical equipment to prevent the massive fraud which the Republican party apparently voted against fixing.

All told, America's Health Care bill is not only a deposit on all American's for a brighter future, it is the largest public debt reducing bill ever passed and signed into American law.

Despite every attempt by the Republican congressmen to obstruct, delay and distort the pending American Health Care bill, the Democratic led majority more than held their own, they kicked the Republican's back to Texas! And were last seen staggering out of the White House congressional chambers with a large boot inserted up their rear ends.

Tea Party members and their Republican party were rumored to be thinking about burning some crosses in their home States as part of a recruitment drive for more members during the Congressional spring recess.

Republican attorneys general in 11 states warned that lawsuits will be filed to stop the federal government overstepping its constitutional powers and usurping states' sovereignty.

States are concerned the burden of providing healthcare will fall on them without enough federal support.

Ten of the Republican attorneys general plan to band together in a collective lawsuit on behalf of Alabama, Florida, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington.

Congressional Republican Minority Leader John Boehner said passing of the Health Care bill meant Republicans would declair Armageddon on America.

Congressional Republican Minority Leader John Boehner further indicated wave after wave of obstruction tactics in the US Senate as the US Senators voted to approve the US Congressional House amendments to the Health Care Bill. The Republican US Senatorial party of no is expected to offer numerous meaningless amendments and procedural objections in a failed attempt to stall and obstruct its passage.

2.2 million people whose deaths are attributed to diarrhea, mostly from dirty water, and 1.8 million children aged under five who succumb to water-borne diseases die each year around the world. This equates to one infant every 20 seconds!!!

Far more infants are dieing everyday because of lack of adequate health treatment than by abortions everyday. And yet the Republican Party was unanimous against saving infants from dieing from inadequate Health Care in America!

Throw the Republicans out of office, and vote in more Democrats to public service for a better and more prosperous America tomorrow.


Char   March 22nd, 2010 7:08 pm ET

It is a milestone for the average working American who had no insurance. This is fantastic for the working poor. We now have a chance to get preventative care just like our politicians have. If the Republicans don't want to help the majority of Americans, shame on them...shame on them.


Joe G. (Illinois)   March 22nd, 2010 7:26 pm ET

On about what things has Obama ever been right? Meaning “Done right” like actually doing..?! The closing of Guantanamo..? Is that it? Withdrawing troops within six months? Handling of Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Israel? The U.S Economy? Has he even meet with or congratulated the newly elected President of the European Council? Is it the creating of jobs? It seems to me that the only thing Obama is really good at is getting money from the Chinese… It’s the only tangible thing that he actually says and does.. Just thinking of those people someday walking into some health care facility to see a doctor or get surgery with one of Obama’s Universal Health Care Insurance Cards in their hands kind of gives me chills.. Like forget Personal Health Care.. But what about those 3 legged stools.. Where are those?


Juli in USA   March 22nd, 2010 7:35 pm ET

I guess the saddest part of this debate is that some people think they are attle...better off without healthcare...very strange thought proccess to me, a 24 year Ovarian Cancer survivor...in 1987, I was fighting for my life, with NO insurance...It took me YEARS to pay for my expensive treatment...I REFUSED to file "Medical Bankruptcy"...I thought my CANCER was my lifes battle, WRONG! I have 2 children on the Autistic Spectrum,( high functioning,with ALOT of hard work) and ended up FIGHTING, and LOSING important healthcare coverage for my kids...It was CRAZY...literally took me to my knees, when they(insurance Co.) kicked out 8 months of claims, for therapy we already had been covered on just months before... WHY would ANYONE be argueing to NOT have healthcare coverage??????? Our government has mandated SO MANY other things in our lives...Car Insurance...Taxes on many things...where was the outrage then??? I am sorry, I just don't get it!!! We TAXPAYERS are ALREADY paying for HEALTHCARE, thru EMERGENCY ROOMS, INDIGENT FUNDS, etc...How many people even know HOW MUCH YOUR CITY< COUNTY< STATE pays out in these funds???ALL TAXPAYERS MONEY...They are being HIT HARD now, today... Hurray for Health Care for ALL!!!! HURRAY!!HURRAY!!! HURRAY!!!


Joe G. (Illinois)   March 22nd, 2010 7:37 pm ET

About Michael Moore: You claim to be hypersensitive and cunning when it comes to the dread of the obvious all American daily living. You champion yourself as a self-professed enigmatic eagle eye genius of sorts. But then when things are out in the open and plain view, you… “Such as?!” My question to you is.. How can you show face in public “Such as.”


Rose W.   March 22nd, 2010 8:18 pm ET

They should be ashamed up there in congress. The people have to remember that theses good old boys are the same one's that created this mess we are in both democrate and republican alike. The people need to recognize that these people are the same individuals that have been in Washington 30 and 40 years. They all need to be voted out and we the people need to put new young faces in Washington along with new ideas for change to help President Obama out. They all have some nerve to treat President Obama in this manner. They all created this mess with their close door deals. Again we the people have to realize all these people have been in Washington too long. They shouldn't be allowed to serve no more than 2 terms in office as do the President. Good Job President Obama. Something had to be done. Thanks for making a change it is time for one in Washington.


Kola Ajayieso   March 22nd, 2010 8:21 pm ET

Reggae Time, Oh America:
-/"Yes, We Can"
-/ 'Heal-th, We Care"
-/" 'Yes, We Care"
-/ "Ame-ri-cans"
-/ "All, We Care"
-/"Yes, We Can"


Chris Taylor   March 22nd, 2010 8:52 pm ET

Larry
I spent 30 years of my life in the UK and 9 years in Switzerland.

This is about Health-care:

What is their problem – they spend twice as much as anybody else in the world on health-care.
They pay for a system that will not use judgment, in place of excessive testing, for fear of law-suits.

The only time you wait for attention or surgery in a hospital in Europe is when it is elective, cosmetic or non-life threatening. This is not debatable – I have seen the European Health-care systems in action with most of my family members, I have also seen how a US hospital treated my 6-year old niece left by the roadside when the ambulance left with her sister and the drunk driver that demolished their car. We put her in our car and drove her to the hospital (we can, if required give specific details of this occurrence)
'Does she have medical insurance?' We didn't know – she was bleeding from the mouth, left in the street, very frightened and now the hospital asks for medical insurance – I gave them an Amex Card and even then she had to wait her turn. Fortunately, we are a medical family and could pull some strings – my sister-in-law picked her up and walked her into the emergency room.
In 1978, I took my young wife to England for the first time. She was in bad shape from ill-conceived culterisations in Costa Rica, which I will not go into. My mother, took her to see Dr. West – our family GP who announced that she had a 'ladies problem' needing immediate attention. She was in hospital the following day – neither of us were resident in the UK, we were home for Christmas, but she needed attention. When we finally left the UK on a PanAm flight, my wife and I, plus an infant of 5 and one of 3 years of age were all seated in different parts of a 747 – with not a lot of co-operation from the crew. When we landed in JFK, my wife had bled so badly on the flight, she was so weak, she could not stand. Getting wheelchair assistance needed a lot of talking – something I think airlines have improved.

When we lived in Switzerland, my son had severe pains in his side. He wouldn't tell anybody because we were leaving for a two-week vacation in Jamaica. The day before we left, my wife called me at the office and said that he was in so much pain, he could not get out of bed. I told her that she should call the doctor and I was on my way home.
Within minutes, the doctor had him scheduled to see a specialist in a neighboring town. When we arrived, the doctor examined him and when we asked about leaving for Jamaica, his response was 'Not tomorrow!' He was in hospital (coincidentally a hospital for obstetrics & gynecology, and a ladies ward at that!) His appendix burst during the operation – but he was OK – this all took place within 4 hours.

Unless critics of health-care reform have first hand experience of the systems in every other developed country of the world, they have no right to argue one way or the other. They are simply perpetuating the greed of the insurance and drug companies and the poor adminstrations of hospitals. (I deliberately exempt the qualified medical staff in US hospitals – almost certainly the best and most frustrated in the world – but they must be freed from the 'mal-practice law suits, and the lawyers that feed on them'. In most countries, there are caps – in Switzerland, you cannot sue a doctor, but he can be severely disciplined.

I have so many friends without Health-care insurance. Not, as Republicans like to envisage, but small business owners, that cannot afford it for themselves or for their employees and will take the risk. (Again this is not a negotiable argument ).

Opponents to Health-care reform have shown themselves to be uncaring for anyone but themselves – 50% of them could be looking for work in a year, with no health insurance.

Larry – I listen to you most nights of the week – you are a busy man – I hope you found time to read this.

E-mail me, if you want to hear more of our international experiences of health-care. Where else in the world would you be, like I was basically feinting as the doctor pulled glass from my son's foot, and my wife was outside being threatened by a drug addict and the hospital put into 'lock-down'. I was on the safe side and knew nothing about it until it was over. The Police in this case were exemplary.

Regards

Chris Taylor


CHM   March 22nd, 2010 9:08 pm ET

Why is everyone so naive about Obama saying "if you like your insurance, you can keep it." Yes, that's true if you have an individual policy and the insurer and you agree. However, most of us are covered by our employers. I have no say. What should be said is, "if you company wants to continue providing medical coverage to you and if your employer wants to maintain its current insurer, than you can keep the insurance you have." Why cannot we give full disclosure to everything.

Larry, Wolf–could you have someone on sometime who represents people who try to take responsibility for their health. Moore hardly represents someone who tries.


charlotte rau   March 22nd, 2010 9:08 pm ET

If people dont want the abortion part which covers only rape,insist,and declined health of a mother in this bill. then why didnt they work harder to punish the rapist or person who did the insist. And for the lower income people who make up a much higher portion of AMERICA...i am 100% for this bill. i believe that NO doctor or insurance company has the right to say i am entitled to or Not entitled to certain medicians or procedures. who are they to say i am not human and deserve less than 100% coverage for all of my health. i am a whole person not 80% not 50% and not 10%...no matter where you prick me i will bleed the same.


Nathan MI   March 22nd, 2010 9:09 pm ET

Privatized health care equals 50,000 pages of legislation and a dozen different types of insurance.

Here is how most Countries run their health care.

Health Care Made Simple:
[1] Expand Social Security to cover temporary disability.
[2] Expand Medicare to cover all Americans.
[3] Shut down the insurance industry, we don’t need them any more.

A single system would be easier to monitor and would eliminate the constant bickering about who gets the “Cadillac” treatment.

Funding:
[1] Increase Social Security & Medicare payroll deduction.
[2] A Federal Sales Tax on all purchases.
[3] A combination of items [1] & [2].


jack   March 22nd, 2010 9:14 pm ET

Michael Moore is so right. As long as the private insurance has the big stake in health care, there is going to be a lot of problems. Universal health care would have been the ideal option. This bill will have some reforms , which is better than nothing. But tell that to the people that still get sick and die , due to the profit motive of big insurance, and big pharma.


Dawn, Chicago   March 22nd, 2010 9:18 pm ET

About Michael Moore,

This bill will need to be improved upon over time. It was obvious early on that before the Scott Brown victory; even though democrats had the majority; all of those democrats were not willing to vote for a single payer system. Remember that this bill has to be paid for on paper. Why would the president propose something that he knew would fail to get all of the needed votes to pass??

I think that Michael Moore needs to get a grip on the reality of this country. It is fine to speak out against injustices in the world; however, time is needed to do something about them. Why doesn't he run for office and see if he can stand the heat.


Rollin Darbouze   March 22nd, 2010 9:21 pm ET

The debate about the health Care proves once more that the Republicans are the party of the rich and special interest groups. They showed their disdain for the poor and the unemployed.I hope that the American people can see that.Their hypocrisy of being the Pro-Life party is obvious. The poor and the loving people of America should reject their negatism and lack of compassion at all electios. Shame on them.


Larry Jacobs   March 22nd, 2010 9:24 pm ET

To Michael Moore and others: "As a compassionate person or a Christian or a person of another faith, we are called to serve the poor and sick. As individuals, we should be giving of our time and money. Where does it say that are government should be doing these things? Isn't it the ultimate irresponsbility to not give our own money and time to help people and just abdicate our responsibility to the government? How many thousands of dollars or time have you given? or in the case of Michael Moore, how many millions have you given? The capitalistic system you claim to despise has made you rich and famous. Have you sold all your belongings and given it to the poor and sick? Then how can you criticize others?


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Are you not both from Buffalo?


E.Donohue, Rockaway   March 22nd, 2010 9:24 pm ET

It is a sad day for America. So instead of one year (bad as it was) we have to wait four years. They claim to have a fund of X amount of dollars, but how far with that take children in need and certainly not for four years! Listen, this is an interference on our ability to choose. What now happens to Roe v. Wade? What has happened to everyone. Have we forgotten who we are; what our values are. We pride ourselves in our Freedoms only to relingish them on a whim. I had one friend compare human autonomy with the registration of a car! I couldn't even believe this person could even make such an assertion. This is how confused all of us are. We need to stop and think. We've got all these power mungers in congress who are holding office illegally, and they take something that is a concern and make it look real pretty but the underly law its sets in horrific. We have no freedom forget. A government should be there to protect rights not to control behavior. What is wrong with everyone? Get these damm lawyers who are sworn into the judicial branch of government (not a formality, it is what deems them a member of that branch of government) who are now sworn into the Legislature at the same time. It violates the separation clause. They started with our privacy and making how we spend our money a condition for employment and housing and now they compel us to purchase health insurance. What is next? We must take action to fight this. "Arise and shine America pick up thy bed and walk." It is time.


Elizabeth Christensen   March 22nd, 2010 9:25 pm ET

Admirably, Michael Moore reminds us that we should take care of the least among us. I would like to ask him if he would put an unborn child in that category—the least among us? My guess is that this question will not air. Elizabeth Christensen


Jan   March 22nd, 2010 9:25 pm ET

The passing of health care reform is decades over due. Michael Moore is correct in his assessment of the problems with the bill. The Republicans have spent an entire year scaring the American public to death. They did the same thing in the 1960's with opposing Medicare. Why do so many people fall for the lies of the Republican party that ran up the deficit sky high during the Bush years? The nut cases are being riled up with heated rhetoric that is going to get someone hurt and the blame will be squarely at the door of people like John Boehner.


Dodie   March 22nd, 2010 9:25 pm ET

This is an extravaganza moment and history in the making. Finally the US has health care for all Americans. I am completely delighted for the millions that desperately needed this. However, this is just the first step. There are a lot of changes to be made.

We still need to work on removing the Insurance companies and pharmaceuticals ‘ efforts in manipulating the health care bill. Just like a bunch of sharks… swimming around and around looking for a weak link! We cannot let our guard down. Insurance companies and pharmaceuticals are still locked in the monopoly!


Kelly   March 22nd, 2010 9:26 pm ET

I dont think we are going to get a fair health bill to pass. Until the people who need the care can donate enough money to our people makeing the laws. Like the pharmacutical and insurance companies do. God help us all!! Thank you Mr. MOORE


Chaney. La.   March 22nd, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Would someone please ask Mr Stupak,..... The tax payer pays all Fed. Employees salaries and insurance, So cant abortion be bought through their Insurance pool. and isnt that using Federal dollars for abortion?


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:27 pm ET

Thank you for acknowledging the Canadian medical system Michael.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 9:28 pm ET

Right, Michael, let's keep the Repubs out of office as long as possible.


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 9:28 pm ET

Wolf
Moore did not answer your Medicare question.
How can you let this kind of stuff pass?


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:29 pm ET

It seems to work for us....and we are not so far away from you.


Steven   March 22nd, 2010 9:29 pm ET

I can't believe Wolf Blitzer made such a crazy statement by asking Michael if ; "isn't that what capitolism is all about?" in reference to Moore"s statement of fact that these corporatists are jackels


S.A.   March 22nd, 2010 9:29 pm ET

Hi there! I'm a Canadian and am a young, healthy person. I make a very good living. My heart feels for the American people....I am proud to say that I pay slightly higher taxes to help pay for free health care for everyone in my country. Not only does Canada pay for health care in hospital, it pays for home care which includes assistance with bathing, physiotherapy, social work amongst other things...Yes we do have wait lists for elective surgery like knee replacements..I think its 3 months...For essential things, like heart surgery, no. You will get help if you need it...You can see 6 different doctors in a day if you want....The elderly are valued...Home care is provided because we want people to live as independently as they can for as long as they can. I have gotten many, many offers to work in the U.S. but I would never work in a system that charges the sick in their time of need...America went to war against the wrong country and I don't remember this much opposition. There is more opposition to saving people's lives than taking them...Unbelievable....


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:30 pm ET

It causes no disunity between our citizens.


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:31 pm ET

It is time to get on with the real issues now


Dodie   March 22nd, 2010 9:32 pm ET

@ Elizabeth Christensen

Everyone is so darn focused on the unborn child. However, no one cares about that child after they are born. What about all the millions of children running around with no health care insurance?

It seems to be many, possibly you, are just fetus obsessed!


Curious   March 22nd, 2010 9:32 pm ET

Micheal Moore why don't you use your hard earned money and make a movie and allow all Americans to veiw it for free.. That is what you are stating on Larry king. We should give to the poor why don't you...


Bill W.   March 22nd, 2010 9:33 pm ET

To A Smith,

You do not know what you are talking about, you just buy everything Democrats are telling you as being truth.
Fact, did you know that under current medicare a substantial amount of claims are denied because those reviewing the claims can change the actual patient treatment required to another that denies the claim, in other words a reverse fraud and the doctors eat the cost.


Kelly   March 22nd, 2010 9:34 pm ET

Larry, I have been watching your show tonight and flipping to the Hannity whois featuring Palin tonight. It is absolutely amazing to me how much your shows differ in the discussion of the healthcare bill. Hannity's show is not even making any points on mhy they are against the bill. All they are doing is bashing democrats with he said she said comments. It's quite pathetic. If they are so against the bill then present some real cons not miss quoting Rev. Sharpton or Having Sarah Palin come on and Bash the Democratic Party and OBAMA. Wake up Republicans U LOST The election, suck it up and start helping make changes not being sore losers. It's sad.

Larry thank you for having Moore on tonight, I might not agree with him all the time but at least is having an inteluctual discussion and brining up valids points. Instead of Playing some High school school yard GAME.

AND Yes, I am 100% for the bill we need Change and at least Obama has the guts and is willing to take a chance on making things better.


Nathan MI   March 22nd, 2010 9:34 pm ET

The new reform bill appears to be a good reform package for most Americans. Scientific, like everything else in America, we will probably still need a lawyer to go to the doctor, but it should cover most of our health care needs. Probably, but I am sure the Insurance Industry and their Lawyers will find every loophole in the bill and use it to screw us.


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:36 pm ET

You dont have to look too far for the solution. Once glance above your 49th parallel will show a model that could well be emulated.


Dr Howard Fredrics   March 22nd, 2010 9:38 pm ET

The Healthcare Reform bill is inadequate in terms of its effective date. We need the timetable accelerated so that people can start receiving the support they need to purchase health insurance. Waiting till 2014 is far too long and many people will die in the interim. Still, the bill is a step in the right direction, and for that reason, I support it.


miriam   March 22nd, 2010 9:39 pm ET

what makes michael moore an authority on such issues? ...one way or the other?


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 9:40 pm ET

Congressman Stupak
The real question is how can you vote yes to a bill that does not
recognize the "law of the land" in the Hyde Ammendment.
The fact remains you voted yes for a bill that flies in the face ot this.
Get off your high horse and admit that you made some deals.


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:41 pm ET

The line is well delineated now. At least that much is clear.. There is no question .


Dodie   March 22nd, 2010 9:41 pm ET

@ Bill W.

I don't know where you receive your information... I work for an agency that accepts medi-cal and Medicare and let me tell you, we all hate to work with them because we have to dot every i and cross every t.. I hate documentation and especially to these two agencies as they come out on a regular basis and go over every chart!


Dan in WV   March 22nd, 2010 9:41 pm ET

I think the "Repubs" are for the rich.


Bill W.   March 22nd, 2010 9:42 pm ET

It is said that not everyone is covered in this health care legislation that was passed yesterday. However reading it I do not see limits so who is left out?


michael armstrong sr.   March 22nd, 2010 9:42 pm ET

The mark is the mark of the everlasting force of God and God has Been Used .


Kelly   March 22nd, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Curious, You obviosly need a dvd player and a blockbuster card! Maybe if you watched Mr. Moores movies youd have seen he took people we as a people abanded after 911. Then he sent a check to his biggest apponent to help him with his wifes healthcare.


Dan in WV   March 22nd, 2010 9:43 pm ET

My mother was so disgusted at the Republican party, she changed her politics.


Margeret Zephirin   March 22nd, 2010 9:43 pm ET

I am a very sick person and I am not able to see certain Doctors and afford the medications. The poor are the ones who have no voice while our elected officials listen the the rich and powerful. This Health Care reform , though imperfect, is good for the poor and those who need it. The Republicans will pay dearly for being a party of NO when it come to the poor.


Carmella   March 22nd, 2010 9:43 pm ET

Remember Bush is white and Obama is Black, that's why Republicans say the Executive Order is not worth the paper it's written on. Republicans are just like the Tea Party a bunch of name calling prejudice people. That man who called out "Baby Killer" is a prime example. He mirrors the Tea Party, spitting and using name calling. Then he has the audacity to still lie and say it was not a personal attack. If you are going to apologize at least tell the truth. He is a bold face lier and he ought to be removed from office. If he will lie about that to all of America on TV, only God knows what elsen he will lie cheat and steal about. He does not deserve to be in office. Remember out of the heart the mouth speaks.


Samer Naji   March 22nd, 2010 9:43 pm ET

I was sitting in the gallery of the House Chamber on the Republican side and clearly heard "Baby Killer!", nothing else. Rep. Randy Neugebauer's statement that he shouted "it is a baby killer" is a blatant lie. The people I was sitting next to and myself couldn't believe what we heard. Everyones' jaw dropped. Throughout my experiences on the Hill yesterday, I witnessed several instances of disrespect from Republican lawmakers but Neugebauer's was by far the most disrespectful comment I have ever heard.


Bill W.   March 22nd, 2010 9:44 pm ET

Dan, did you know that on Forbes list of wealthy people most are Democrats.


Wayne   March 22nd, 2010 9:45 pm ET

I think this sort of debate is truly was makes America great.

In the end good will triumph of course.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 9:46 pm ET

@Dodie...Yes , your comments on hcr bill well said. First step, but a ways to go. When the private insurers are removed from the equation, the mission will be accomplished. Too bad, like Michael said, they didn't go for the universal plan. But, I agree this will be a lot better than the Republican solution, which is do nothing and count on a political defeat for those brave enough to move forward. The Republicans and tea partiers may have miscalculated with their misinformation and obstructionism. I hope so.


Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 9:46 pm ET

@S.A., if you believe what all the far left bloggers say about why we went to war with the wrong country, then I am sure you can add 2 and 2 and get the answer as to why Canada did not support that war. I think the constant jabs from the north occasionally deserve a response that equals the playing field.


Carmella   March 22nd, 2010 9:48 pm ET

Give me a break Dude, the President has learned that transparency is not as easy as he thougt. So get over it.


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 9:49 pm ET

No proof on the spitting and name calling. With cameras everywhere,
why no record of it. Could it be that certain Democrat Congress People
are stirring up the masses.
Tea party people are concerned about what is happening to this country
and you should not dismiss them as fringe like the present administration would like you to do.
They feel just as deeply about their issues as you do so why slander them?


Bill W.   March 22nd, 2010 9:49 pm ET

Dodie... This is fact I know it personally.


michael armstrong sr.   March 22nd, 2010 9:50 pm ET

We must adheire our respect to the people this administration is careless andwithout a stable plan .


jody   March 22nd, 2010 9:50 pm ET

wow – how ironic you have one the largest recipients of capitalism on your program – Michael Moore is a millionaire!! And he has the gall to bad mouth capitalism – Maybe he should foot the bill for this debaucle of a bill – he can suppport all of those uninsured – because I don't have the money to do it – I don't make documentaries


KSandru   March 22nd, 2010 9:51 pm ET

As a woman, mother & pro-choice person, I was upset that yet again, men who have no business in womens' uteruses (unless they are their physicians & partners) are determining the course of our reproductive rights. There was previously a ban on federal funding for abortions. But besides all that, I can't understand why legislators & others who call themselves "pro-life" can oppose this bill that can save the lives of those who do not & cannot afford healthcare currently, & also support trillions of dollars in funding for the lie of Iraq & now Afghanistan (where we should've finished the job). Also, as the daughter of a Korean War Vet, I also take offense that by opposing this bill, they also oppose long overdue quality care for our military vets, past and present.

Humm...save the unborn, but screw them after they're born – idiotic!


Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 9:52 pm ET

@Kelly,
I would not say that Hannity represents Fox unless we want to say Oberman represents MSNBC. Fox is number one and it will take a lot more than the 23% of Americans who are Republican to make Fox No. 1. I find some of the programs on Fox do provide both sides of the story with a lot of fair balance.


Larry   March 22nd, 2010 9:52 pm ET

What would the people who want to keep all Americans Hostage to Healthcare/Insurance company' sDo. what would they like to see...? Exactly what they are seeing We must not let the distortion continue. This ia what Satan want's.


Linda   March 22nd, 2010 9:54 pm ET

The GOP is discriminating against the sick and the poor in our nation. And I can't believe Ben Stein is on the program again !!! Both the Republicans that are on the show right now, only care about themselves and other rich republicans.


Sandra - usa   March 22nd, 2010 9:54 pm ET

I support the healthcare reform bill and I believe that the real truth about the republican opposition to the healthcare reform bill is pure racism. They do not want a black president to succeed.


Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 9:55 pm ET

@Linda,
Ben Stein worked with Nixon to offer healthcare to all Americans. Apparently you do not know his history.


Bill W.   March 22nd, 2010 9:56 pm ET

I hope Michael Moore would do a film on how congress really works especially regarding the health care debate action by Democrats.


Carmella   March 22nd, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Bill there is nothing wrong with having strong feelings about issues, but be civilized about it. The Tea Party has gotten out of hand. There were cameras and the instances have been shown on CNN. They had to bleep the name calling. While I respect everyone's stance on the issues we are civilized country should not conduct ourselves as a wild out of control Nation. And I hope you don't condone that type of behavior. It's unacceptable.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 9:57 pm ET

@S. A. ...Yes the Canadian system makes sense. Seems like there is so much greed , misinformation and fear that the poor will get some subsidies from the taxes, that this country can't get it's act together. So, maybe we are making some progress. But these incremental steps are certainly not the best approach. But given the ignorance, greed and fear on this issue, it may be all we can expect for the time being. That they did anything is a victory of sorts.


lisa   March 22nd, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Health care reform – The Doctor on the show mentioned preventative care. I think it needs to start with the Doctors. They need to be retaught how to treat patients. Its been "my back hurts" heres a pill.. can't sleep? heres a pill.. Can't have an erection ? Here is a pill! Diabetic? Here is a pill! How about put the bag of potato chips down, get off the couch and go for a walk!

But wait, the Pharmaceutical companies would start losing money!!!!!


S.A.   March 22nd, 2010 9:57 pm ET

Hi Chuck,

You did wage war on the wrong country...nobody wants Osama Bin Laden to live to see another day but attacking Irag was the wrong way to go and based on fabrications. Thank God our Prime Minister at the time wasn't convinced. These are people's children, sons, husband, wives that go over there to fight and when they don't come back its the families that have to deal with the loss everyday. When you go to war it should be the very last resort. If Iraq was the country that attacked the U.S then Canadians would've rallied to fight them too but we knew better...I don't believe the left. I believe who's right. There are no constant jabs from the North. We think the U.S. is capable of better...Trust me when I say that Canadians throw jabs at ourselves. We have things in our history that I am not proud of but I can say them without someone threatening to kill me...These are opportunities to correct the past because I love my country and think it can be better...When you yell at your children its not because you hate them its because you want the best for them! Its okay to have an opinion!


jack   March 22nd, 2010 10:00 pm ET

Doctor Weil that was a good come back to Ben Stein's capitalist greed talk.


Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 10:00 pm ET

@S.A., thank you for your comment. What would you change about your country to make it better?


Rand   March 22nd, 2010 10:00 pm ET

The rhetoric is very strong. I've pondered this for a while, and the point I sort of keyed in on was the fact the Republicans had control for many years and neglected many of the domestic issues. Then there is always rhetoric to support everything, like don't blame Bush. I have resisted blaming a former president, but the facts are our economy tanked right at the end of his watch, and people lost half their retirement savings in the stock market. Just by simple observation, I dont think its easy to forget that. I am still mulling over what it means, was it a money grab prior to leaving office, was it years of neglect, was it continual deregulation that gave the wealthy to much power to ransack the system. Or is it all the American peoples fault.

After I thought it over, I was glad something was given back to working class guy.


Michael in Utah   March 22nd, 2010 10:00 pm ET

I don't know what Ben Stein is talking about. I watched the vote live. I watched them take a 15 minute electronic vote. I watched as the number reached the magic 216. The senate version passed,by itself. THEN,only after they had voted on the senate bill,did they do a vote on the reconciliation bill. That passed too,but if it hadn't,the senate bill would have passed anyway. Did the senate bill pass? Was it exactly the same language? Yes it was. I didn't read this on Fox news,I didn't read it on the internet,my friend didn't tell it to me,I WATCHED IT HAPPEN live on CNN.


sheilamills   March 22nd, 2010 10:01 pm ET

The President is not a king, he cannot just wave a scepter and make Congress act in the best interest of the American people. He has to make deals and compromises to get things done. Thats the way its always been done in the US.


S.A.   March 22nd, 2010 10:03 pm ET

Hi Jack,

I really do pray for the American people. You're a great people. I hope and pray that one day every American will have free health care. I assure you that the Canadian system is not worth it but every day policy makers in Canada are trying to make it better. I know because I'm working on it too.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 10:06 pm ET

@jody...At least Michael makes documentaries that inspire peple to change the country for the better. He seems to be authentic, and I have never seen him put on airs. His anger seems real as well.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 10:08 pm ET

@S. A. Thank you for sharing the information with us. Hope we can import some of the better ideas for our system.


S.A.   March 22nd, 2010 10:09 pm ET

Hi Chuck!!

Oh, there's a lot I would change. As I previously mentioned I make a very good living and research has shown that health in really dependent on several things...poverty, level of education, food security and in the last 20 years Canada has reduced the amount of money it gives to support the less fortunate. What policy makers don't realize or don't want to, to be honest, is that this will result in poor health outcomes in the future. We need to improve what is called the welfare state in the country. The reason why I mention my income is because I don't want you to think that I'm inspired to act because I myself am poor... I'm not but I do want everyone is this country to have equal opportunities and to do this we have provide more subsidies, etc. Without them most of our elderly would be living below the poverty line but they are thriving (knock on wood!).


JK in Calif   March 22nd, 2010 10:09 pm ET

Michael Moore –

Is there anything Micahel Moore likes or is he just a constant complainer?

If everything isn't his way, he can't stop complaining.

Mr. Moore, since the Democrats didn't ddeliver the health care plan you wanted, are you going to complain about them as you have Replublicans?


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 10:10 pm ET

Carmella
I guess I missed the program you watched showing definitely that racial slurs were expressed. Kindly point me to it. The "News" I watched here in Chicago said that there is no record of what they "The Dems" were
saying.
To malign the "Tea Party" as a bunch of malcontents and toss the slur
"teabagger" at them only serves to make them stronger.
I will stand in the rain and cold again this year and every year to voice my opposition to a government that is destroying what I and many of my generation fought and took an oath to protect.


S.A.   March 22nd, 2010 10:10 pm ET

Sorry in my note to Jack I said the Canadian system is not worth it..I meant perfect...sorry!


Loren Taylor/Chicago   March 22nd, 2010 10:25 pm ET

a milestone. seems like most people on this blog agree, at least in part.


Colin   March 22nd, 2010 10:35 pm ET

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Mr. Blitzer conducted a very poor interview with Michael Moore. Pity that Larry King was not in the chair.

Mr. Blitzer was hostile, interrupted constantly and was clearly more interested in expressing his own views than allowing viewers to listern to the responses of Michael Moore.

There was another gentleman who used to be on CNN and who exhibited the same behaviour. His name was Lou Dobbs. It would seem the Mr. Blitzer has received coaching from Mr. Dobbs on how to ask a question. One first makes a speech of several paragraphs, pose a question, and then almost immediately interrupt the response.

I have always enjoyed Mr. Blitzer. Tonight was a low point in his career. One can only hope he will replace Lou Dobbs as his coach. He might consider asking Larry King for help on how to conduct an interview. He could do a lot worse.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 10:42 pm ET

Has Rush packed his bags yet? He said he was moving to Costa Rica, if they passed the hcr bill. Promises , promises! 🙂


jack   March 22nd, 2010 11:03 pm ET

@Bill In Chicago Area...If they do not want to be associated with slurs, what's with the Obama/Joker signs, the threats of violence signs, and the Nazi signs? There are many fine well meaning people in your movement. But it is not all media spin. One need only read some of the tea party blogs, and see what their leaders say , to realize they have a long way to go before they can ever be taken seriously by many more rational people.


Elmer Gantry   March 22nd, 2010 11:04 pm ET

I will personally pack their bags and purchase the airline tickets (one-way) for Limbaugh and Ben Stein if they will both go to Costa Rica and stay there and shut the heck up.


Chuck   March 22nd, 2010 11:07 pm ET

@S.A.,
i didn't think you were being arrogant about making good money. It is unfortunate that many go without and like you, I try to help. I agree with your points and feel education is extremely important. We can all do as much as we can, but everyone has to do something not only to help but also to take responsibility for his/her health.
Have a good evening.


A. Smith, Oregon   March 22nd, 2010 11:14 pm ET

The Texan Republican Congressman's 'Baby Killer' comment is not completely in context. The Republican Congressmen had repeatedly obstructed, ranted and attempted to block legislation that had nothing to do with the Health Care bill.

During the Health Care bill debate Sunday, Republicans again attempted parliamentary blocks and obstructions one after another. All were overcome. Then came the final Republican obstructionist ploy. Section 1303 Abortion funding and the Stupak amendment which simply clarified the wording.

When Stupak removed his own amendment from consideration, that ruined the waiting Republican ambush over that contentious point. Republican members realized their 'Bushwack' would no longer be able to take place and defeat was imminent, whereupon a Texan Republican Congressmen shouted 'Baby Killer' at Democratic Congressman Stupak.


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 11:15 pm ET

@jack as opposed to what the other side does in their blogs. Give me a break. They of course are "uber polite" to all and don't cast any dispersions. Believe that and have a bridge here in Chicago you can buy for alot less than the one in Brooklyn.
Please there are a few extremists on both sides. They are not in the majority on either end but because of media get the most attention.


jack   March 22nd, 2010 11:29 pm ET

@Bill In Chicago Area...True, there are rude and misinformed people in all political groups. I was just saying that, some of the people in the tea party need to be aware that ,while they may understand their own beliefs ( though there seems to be quite a lot of variation in the mix) they need to be aware of how they project themselves , if they want to attract a larger following. I do think they are ill served by some of the people who have proclaimed themselves as spokes persons. Nothing wrong with being passionate about your beliefs. And I hope the people with good ideas will emerge and help define your group. You don't want to let the vulgar elements brand the party in a negative way. Good luck with the positive elements.


gabrielle   March 22nd, 2010 11:30 pm ET

Wolf did LKL a disservice by not poitning out to Stupak that an executive order is a directive from the president (which is legally binding on the federal government) but not part of the legislation itself. Furthermore, executive orders don't have the force of law, don't direct the private sector, and can be rescinded by future administrations. For example, Bush's executive order on human stem cells was rescinded by Obama. I like to have LK back!


Bill In Chicago Area   March 22nd, 2010 11:43 pm ET

@jack just as the people on the left are ill served by some of the members in their group. Please advise them also.
Good Night


Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 23rd, 2010 12:14 am ET

I would like to dedicate the all-time classic Times They Are A Changing to all of us.
Bob Dylan's lyrics to the song are still relevant till today.
A great song writer who did America proud.


Paul Hall   March 23rd, 2010 12:17 am ET

Hey Moore aren’t the doctors who get around $10,000 for an hours work when they do a stint or other heart procedure the evil profit takers or is it just that you’re a liar and want everyone to believe the evil insurance companies are the only greedy capatilst pigs.
You will never tell the truth and what I just said is truth. There will never be enough money to pay these doctors what they are charging. The fact is that you, CNN, Fox, or anyone has pointed this out, including you wolf b. Eventually the American people will see who is to blame here. Paul


Dodie   March 23rd, 2010 12:24 am ET

@ Bill W.

Well they may cut you guys some slack, they certainly do not with us. I wonder why the extreme difference in their procedures....


John Ciavarella   March 23rd, 2010 12:26 am ET

Why do you interview someone like Michael Moore?

Why on earth do you think he is an expert on health care reform. He is simply a Hollywood insider with a big ego and fat pay check. What makes him an expert? His celebrity!!

He knows no more about health care reform than Alex Rodriquez–both of whom could afford any MD, hospital, or clinic for healt care in the world. Alex Rodriquez may know more about health care reform becaause he has more sports injuries and surgeries- all paid for by the major league team he has been associated.

Why don't your interview some one on main street who has to deal with health care on main street.

It is incredible whom you deem as an expert on anything.

Bart Stupack is a very credible source of information, however you diminished his role to nothing compared to that afforded to Michael Moore.

John


Stephen   March 23rd, 2010 12:30 am ET

Hey Moore, wasn't America built on Capitalism? It see's its share of ups and downs so I dont want to hear it when life is good then everything is fine. But as soon as it sucks you bash it. Stop being a hypocrite


luckybee   March 23rd, 2010 12:31 am ET

To Hel with Michael Moore ; God don't like lieers; it is a sin to lie.


Dodie   March 23rd, 2010 12:42 am ET

@ luckybee

I see you are at it again. Aren't you on the wrong blog. You need to find one that is religious. This is about health care... not Your Bible or Your God!


carebear   March 23rd, 2010 12:42 am ET

Mr. Moore has not told the truth about the Canadian system which is by the way failing many of us Canadians. At any rate, I hope the reformed healthcare system works well for Americans. If you wish for solutions look not to Canada, but to European and other countries.


Kenneth Shedden   March 23rd, 2010 12:42 am ET

Your journalistic integrity is suffereing badly with so much air time serving as a soap box in favor of the disastorous Obamacare plan–e.g. the ex-governor of Minnesota , Michael Moor among others.

For example, why not give air time to the governor of Indiana who has a pilot plan that actually works–i.e. It actually lowers costs while providing excellent coverage. When given the opportunity to pocket savings from use of generic drugs, from elimination of discretionary procedures and discretionary emergency room visits; major svings occur versus a control group that has an Obamacare-like unlimited cap on access to medication and services. Note–the Whole Foods business model would also be a great discussion topic to add balance to CNN coverage-it is another private sector soltuion without massive goernement entitlements.

Contrast the Indiana plan to that In Massachusetts-where costs are rising , emergency room visits are rising, coverage is being limited--i.e. an early glimpse at Obamacare


Ray   March 23rd, 2010 12:45 am ET

This legislation is unsustainable unless changed to achieve cost reduction. The real tragedy is the way the health care legislation was handled, misinformation by both parties which has polarized Americans. People who had been merely observers are becoming activists. I think this is a bad outcome, making an already fragmented society worse. Say goodbye to any hope for continuity in Congress. My long-term wish is that something great can rise from the ashes, but for now, focus on our key issues: economic growth, education, job creation and deficit reduction is in trouble. Good paying jobs and healthy exports can pay for bigger government, but bigger government without a strong economy is a recipe for failure.


aliceb   March 23rd, 2010 12:46 am ET

Michael Moore for president. !!!!!!!!!!!


kaitlyn   March 23rd, 2010 12:52 am ET

rnt we paying for those who dont? those who get so desperate that they go to the E.R. bc they have nowhere else to go? these same ppl dont want healthcare bc they believe that it will fund abortions but wait wat bout the childern who ARE given life? those who were born w/ a defect or disease that wouldve died b4 they even got a chance to live? i mean would u really choose to kill childern like me? i had open heart surgery when i was 10months old to close a HOLE in my HEART the health insurance not only paid 4 my surgery but also for my appointments to see a cardiac specialist would u really choose to kill a child like me?


Eva   March 23rd, 2010 12:52 am ET

Passing health care bill is a huge mistake. Blatant abuse of power by the White House. Voting FOR this bill is NOT what the people want. Where is the transparency promised us in the "change" campaing.


Cathy   March 23rd, 2010 1:10 am ET

Michael Moore's face filled up my 42" television for way too long tonight. Listening to a wealthy, opinionated celebrity is predictably boring.


kolaajayie   March 23rd, 2010 1:34 am ET

It‘s very interesting to note the /"comparable sportsmanship displayed in statesmanship"/, as Americanpeople watched the "donkey" dashed to edge-out the "elephant" at the finish of the last lap of the marathon "meddling relay race” for the healthcare reform. A that lasted 100years, (X)months, (Y)weeks, (Z)days, (V)hours (T)minutes and (F)seconds. Wow! What a “heck” of legislative Stamina!


Elmer Gantry   March 23rd, 2010 1:42 am ET

Moore "a wealthy opionated celebrity"? You mean Ben Stein, don't you? The drone of that conservative tool is not only boring, it's downright maddening. Not only that, he didn't make any sense tonight and Blitzer looked like someone hit him over the head with a hammer. He probably just found out his insurance company hiked his premiums up 40 percent.


Daniel F. Joyce   March 23rd, 2010 2:20 am ET

Michael Moore,

Simply put; if you do not like this country, simply move! You have taken advantage of capitalism and yet have bashed it at the same time. I challenge you; move to Cuba – do what you do best and see how long you can run your mouth as you seem to do here. Call me afterwards.

Regards,

Daniel F. Joyce
727-688-1962
djoyce30@gmail.com


Leona Henderson   March 23rd, 2010 2:41 am ET

Definitly a mile stone. and about 2 decades late. My first President was FDR and the work he and his supporters did has given many lives a fairly decent living during their golden years. He had a terrific fight with the Rep-no-sayers but his tenacity carried his ideas through. to victory. Should have happened way back when Clintons were trying to carry on the Democratic concern for the Grass Roots people. The Rep's seem to be continuely trying to cut or water down or privatize SS. Retirees should Thank their lucky stars that Pres Obama has the Franklin Delinor Roosevelts tenacity to hang in there.


Ann-Virginia   March 23rd, 2010 2:56 am ET

Joe G.(IL.)You're pretty much an idiot aren't you.Nothing you write makes any sense at all.You sound like one of those radical"tea baggers"who just rant on about stuff & never really say anything.Most Americans are just sick of listening to your kind of rant & wish you guys would just shutup.


Francisco   March 23rd, 2010 3:05 am ET

I not agains the bill just the process, the means do not justify the Bill. The bill sound noble but look at the massage and the example we have just send to other 3rd would democracies. Cheat the system to get what you want, imagine what corrupted governments have just learn and will use to get what they want. We have tout other a horrible thing, think of what we have just done and unleashed... Think Venezuela's president. We are supposed to lead in the democracy process, not follow bad democracies.
In the wrong hands the way this heath care bill was past, is not good.


Daniel F. Joyce   March 23rd, 2010 3:28 am ET

Michael Moore,

This is simply a follow up to my last comment as well as an explanation of my personal politics. I consider myself a moderate independent. Like most of my generation, I have both liberal and conservative views. I am now in my early thirties and have been paying attention since Bill Clinton. Yes, I was discussed with how the Republicans handled the situation. Honestly, it was an embarrasement to this country. George Bush followed and I was not impressed.

While Mr. Bush was in office, 911 had happened. As you, I will never forget where and what I was doing at that time. I supported his decision completely; all the way to Iraq. That was the wtf moment for me. During that time, it had seemed that he was only interested in taking care of "daddy's" unfinished business. Not only did the country question him; but so did the U.N.

Michael, as mentioned before, I am an independent. I see faults on both the right and the left. I strongly feel that there are faults associated with both the D's and the R's in this country. However, I am proud of our nations beginning. Though slavery and manifest destiny were some of the ugly truths, I realize that without those, we would have not progressed where we are today. With that being said, my generation has grown up without racism. We simply do not believe in it. However, we do believe in capitalism and all that it has to offer. Thanks to our Founding Fathers, Abraham Lincoln, Martin L. King, and John F. Kennedy, we would not be were we are today.

My question to you: with all of this great history behind us and knowing what our founding fathers have known before us about massive government / taxes, then why do you want to turn us into a socialized country (such as England, France, and Ven.) in which so many seem to escape?

My other question to you is; if we are such a bad nation... such a racist nation as the left would like everyone to believe, then why do we provide as much charity to other countries in times of great tragedy and why are there so many out there still trying to come to this country? For example: Haitians have the opportunity to seek refuge to many islands surrounding them (such as Cube), yet they travel to here. (Please do not revert to racism since I am not a racist).

Please reply,

Dan Joyce
727-688-1962
djoyce30@gmail.com


Daniel F. Joyce   March 23rd, 2010 3:40 am ET

Hey A. Smith,

Before you denounce the Tea Party... Why don't you research what they are about first. Your ignorant claims of racism really does not make any sense. They are made up of both d's and r's as well as independent's who are simply tired of fiscal spending. Really A., hit you wit some nawlej yo b4 you spit yo words dawg!

Dan


Errol Marquis   March 23rd, 2010 4:57 am ET

Larry Senetor Kennedy was in Canada studying the Canadian health care system for quite a while and this is his baby, Obama only gave birth to it for him like a seregate mother, Don't forget Senetor Kennedy was the first Democrat to support Obama and i am happy that his hard work payed off because we have a great system here.


Perry (Canadian)   March 23rd, 2010 5:02 am ET

Unbelievably finally a president has given the american people health care, What is unbelievable is that President Obama is heavily criticized, for giving Americans something other than bombs and billions and trillions of war debt accumulated from Republican administrations. No health care system is perfect it will take years to fine tune aspects of the bill. I suspect the republicans have to be critical and dream up excuses to discredit Obama for future elections.
Americans should be dam proud of a president who gave at least a start to universal health care, just think insurance companies cant cut you off when you fall sick, thats something Bush and the repubilicans should have addressed years ago, and billions of dollars ago. Be dam proud of your president for thinking about his people before his own status, congratulations America you did a good thing!!!!!


indntrd servnt   March 23rd, 2010 5:07 am ET

Any serious person knows we are on the brink of financial ruin to the point that it is not a sure thing that we can stop bankruptcy or major defaults on the trillions dollars we owe the world and all of our creditors (including you, me and the rest of America; soc. sec. is down 28 bill just this year so far; and medicare and medicare are losing billions). Pres. O recognized this when he set up a commission to address the growing deficits and national debt, even though his disingenuousness was high-lighted when all he had to do was to tell Congress he will not sign big spending bills and stop spending. Moreover, Pres.O stated "we are out of money" even before most of this reckless spending began. China, Japan, Brazil India, South Korea have started completing their trades by the use of their two currencies, avoiding the use of US dollar and treasuries; China is buying commodities and paying with American cash and/or treasuries just to reduce their holdings..Pres. O and his treasury now have come up with regulations requiring Americans to buy US bonds in our 401k's and in our IRA even though I am not sure at what step of the process is. Makes sense to Pres O to tap into the trillions in our accounts to make up the difference for all the borrowing we are still doing now that China, Japan, Russia, India and Brazil are getting cold feet and not wanting to end up with nothing or near to nothing. The winner of all of the abuses above you guessed are now our collective burden (pun intended). First we crash, lose40-50%; reckless spending bailing out our banks, foreign banks, AiG, Fannie, Freddie, auto companies for billions;;a non-stimulus stimulus; a jobs bill(2nd stimulus, etc; REQUIRE STUDENT LOANS TO SUBSIDIZE HEALTH-CARE BILL. SO NOW THEY TELL US WHAT % OF 401(K)'S, PROFIT SHARING PLANS AND IRA'S MUSTBE BOUGHT AND HELD. WHILE DEBASEMENT OF OUR CURRENCY IS ACHIEVED OUR TAXES ON FED, STATE AND MUNICIPALITY ARE RAISED; OUR INTEREST AND DIVIDENDS ARE TAXED AT HIGHER RATES; AND, NUMEROUS OTHER ITEMS, FROM GAS, TOBACCO, LIQUOR TO SOFT-DRINKS, etc.,ARE TAXED


Ted   March 23rd, 2010 9:24 am ET

@ Daniel F. Joyce

Michael Moore does more for our country in one day than you in your lifetime, he calls our attention to the faults in our society and the wrongdoings our politicians!! It takes guts to do it and we need him.
You telling him to leave is ridiculous, he only exercises his rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

For your information there are a lot more people who are also dissatisfied with the way our country goes since a good many years, as you can read from these blogs.
Capitalism is OK and the best way to conduct business, however it must be a moderate and socially acceptable, not the Wild West variant practiced in the USA.
Look at Germany, Sweden, Japan, etc, they also have a capitalist system, but with a different face, and they are beating us in every industrial sector, because their workers are satisfied and feel to be part of their company. How many americans can say that?


Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   March 23rd, 2010 9:40 am ET

Isn't Mr Moore a Capitalist himself.
It is capitalism which props America's success. And Mr Moore too.
Am sure Mr Moore would not want the United States to be a communist country.
As it is, some people are accusing President Obama as propagating Socialism.
But with the health-care reform, he is accused of favoring capialism.
I am confused. Can someone care to explain?


IKHAN   March 23rd, 2010 11:13 am ET

Larry,
Michael Moore has always stood up for the American people & against those whose self serving interests he exposes regularly. That takes courage folks.
More power to him. We need more like him.


Karen   March 23rd, 2010 4:40 pm ET

What about the executive order regarding abortion? Wasn't that part of the deal? When will that be signed?


eve pilli   March 23rd, 2010 4:56 pm ET

My question to all the CNN Anchors, Reporters and for tonight, Michael Moore, is first, one that never seems to be answered on any news network or by our government: And that is what is this new health care reform bill going to do for people who can not afford any type of insurance at all? So often do I hear politicians speak of the middle class, main stream society and the rich; but rarely do you hear them speak of the poor. And with Senator. Edward Kennedy gone, I think we will hear even less from Washington on poverty and the poor here in America. Regard to my question on Health Care reform, I am speaking of the poor, the ones who cannot and do not file tax returns to gain tax credits. Nor am I speaking of those living below poverty level or the middle class; but of the thousands of Americans who are the poorest of the poor living and dying on the streets of American soil due to the greed of others? How will this bill improve the quality of medical care these people would receive under this reform? We give the poor health care reform before we give them food or shelter- when the lack of food, shelter, and clean water are the very reasons why so many of the poor are sick and dying; here, in America, and across the Globe. I say this; before we have health care reform, we need to fix the things make people sick in the first place! What continuously divides us will eventually destroy us. We are not democrats nor republicans-we are a people. Let us care for all by simply following the words of our Founding Fathers, "We the people........... we all know the words; now let us put those words into action; not just into a historical bill that gets written into our history books. Our Government spends and invests more money in protecting and persevering the Historical Documents of Our Founding Fathers than on the people those very documents where meant to protect and preserve. I believe that this bill was passed more to make history than to change our history; and a change in direction is what this country needs. The lack of love in this world is what truly makes people all across the globe sick. If this world would only rid itself of it's plagues of hatred and greed, the people in this world would create a Universal Health Care System of the people, by the people and for the people– themselves. Universal Health Care: Love One Another. Sickness has its roots in poverty and poverty has its roots in Greed-and Greed is not only destroying our planet; but also God's People.

This is the second time I have tried to post this. For some reason my post was either deleted or I made an error.


Charlie Lamb   March 23rd, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Like most Americans I don't know what is in the health bill, or how and when the different parts will take place.Still don't know how we are going to pay for health. Thank you


esther lyons   March 23rd, 2010 10:09 pm ET

My family is so grateful that healthcare has been passed. Several members of my immediate family need to see a Doctor but have been waiting because of lost jobs. Now, hopefully, we can find out why my grandson has completely lost his hearing in his right ear!


Elmer Gantry   March 24th, 2010 4:31 am ET

@charlie lamb: to learn what you've just won with health care reform, go to the official White House website:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/healthreform and read all about it!

A few things:
No lifetime coverage limits on your insurance
Severely limited annual caps
Insurance companies can't deny your children due to a pre-existing condition (without facing penalties)
Insurance companies can't drop you when you get sick
Small businesses get big tax breaks so they can offer health care
to their workers
Seniors will receive $250 towards that horrendous donut hole
Free annual dr's visit under Medicare & no more co-pays under Medicare
Kids can stay on their parents' insurance plan until they're 26.
A special program to help adults with pre-existing conditions.

This is some of what you get NOW and there will be more to come in 2014. The website goes into everything in plain language.


dean   April 28th, 2010 6:07 am ET

wow, moore is just so wrong about so many things. mr. controversial!

– letting the illegals stay. while we just let mexicans illegally roll across the arizona border, there are thousands of foreigners internationally that are waiting to come in legally. do you know how hard it is for a european to immigrate to the u.s.?

– comparing european health care. i am 46 and live in germany. i pay 286 euros in health insurance every month and the health care is not good compared to the u.s.a.

it seems there are "stupider white men".


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