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February 26, 2010

ICYMI: Bob Barker & Jack Hanna on the death of Sea World trainer

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AlphaPoe1   February 26th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

You don't need to be an animal specialist or a rocket scientist to know that a whale is a wild animal and should be free in the ocean instead of being kept in captivity, stressed out from that situation, and then be trusted around humans. This tragedy could have been avoided.


Cajazz76:24:8   February 26th, 2010 2:05 pm ET

@Hanna

You too, for an ignoramus, also profit from the suffering of animal's, whether it's at location's such as Sea World or on the late night show's.

How many time's have we witnessed the animal's, you brought on those show's, go bonker's from the exposure you give them. Fool!

You do not even know much about them. I have your display's of ignorance, funny to some, be it may, it still's inform's the world you are stupid. That is the simplest term's I can offer you, to let you see who you are, STUPID!
Sea World spends $60 million dollar's on the whales, your word's. Now who in the hell will believe your now an accountant? Go get a job your qualified for, on a farm shoveling what you portray to the world...SCAT!


Charolette Endsley   February 26th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

Don't know where to send a comment but in looking at video of the whale. It looks like it might be the necklace she is wearing that the killer whale might have though was a fish and went to grab it and pulled her in.
I am just saying the fish she is feeding before the incident look shiny.
It only makes sense with her necklace hanging down that is what happened..
Worth considering anyway.
Didn't know how to get this to someone who might care.


Cajazz76:24:8   February 26th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

Charlotte Endsley

I didn't see, nor care to, the video, but a very, very good observation. I get it, like a lure. I sure hope those investigating read your blog. You are extremely observant, you should be an investigator of sorts. Well done!!!


Terry, TX   February 26th, 2010 4:32 pm ET

This animal killed three humans.....this behavior will not stop.... you put them down or release them....if they are released they will die and feed other sea creatures..... You never put animals over humans....and this whale is no different as the mountain lions, bears, dogs, wolf packs, alligators.... who kill and are put down.

On behalf of sea world....whether they run an organization for profit.... there is no evidence these animals are harmed..I have taken my children to Sea World and besides the educational information they get....the rescue of animals they observe....they leave with a spiritual appreciation of the animals they would get no where else. It is an actual, factual, observable experience ... all good.


Cajazz76:24:8   February 26th, 2010 4:48 pm ET

@Terry TX.

How displeasing to see the words aggressive and threat and human and not realize that man himself is an animal. With the ability of broadened speech allowing mankind his catharsis through divinity, whereas he forgive's himself for his imperfection's, yet denies an non-speaking animal none. I would be appalled by statistic's confirming all the animal's of the earth combined, are the true threat to mankind and to his existence. We are considerably less than a silly human race. PETA has nothing to do with my evaluation of you and your consensus, your pea-sized brain does!

Cajazz76:24:8 February 25th, 2010 9:19 pm ET
@Terry Tx.

Please accept my apology for my last comment. It was done is in discourse to your lack of compassion for creatures who do not volunteer to jump through hoops and carry human's on their back for what to me seems morbid pleasure. Little do we realize nor assume we have a balance to support in nature and there are animals with intelligence.


mike   February 26th, 2010 4:50 pm ET

@Terry TX.

Found this on another site, did iy fall from your pocket?


Dodie   February 26th, 2010 5:28 pm ET

@ Jack Hanna and Sea World. The Orcas are giving you a message. I strongly advise you take their directive unless you want more repercussions as akin to the incident on Wednesday. How many lives must be lost before you give way to your greedy position and set free the orcas which is in most cases are more intelligent than YOU!

… @ Jack Hanna old dear and sweet one. My recommendation is you never enter the ocean as these orcas have excellent memory most likely much better than yours and will come after you! Better you purchase a bigger ‘hat’ so you can hide!!!


Luis B Rosario   February 26th, 2010 5:46 pm ET

It is possible that the giant mammal was only attempting to play as
Charlotte opines. The whale grab the girl by the hair and drag her
down. The whale is used to play with trainer. If he really wanted
to harm her why no grab her, toss her up in the air and ram her.
The fact that this particular whale was involved in two prior tragic
incidents in 30 years(the first at Sea World) don't him a serial
killer." We may never know what were really the whale's intentions.
One thing I know. There was not enough supervision present
at Sea World capable of attempting to rescue the trainer once
she was pulled by 11 to 12,000 pound mammal. There should
be more personnel available with a plan B ready in case of
emergency; Disney does not pay these trainers a lot . They can
afford another helper. Opinion submitted for future consideration.


A. Smith, Oregon   February 26th, 2010 5:58 pm ET

I agree with many of the other bloggers comments here, Tilly was likely thinking he was merely playing with the trainer which he apparently seldom is called upon to do. If a Orcha savagely attacked someone there would be body parts in the water! Their jaws would easily cleave a person into 2 or more parts almost immediately.

The trainer appeared to be an expert swimmer, I find it very sad the Sea World staff who must have had emergency medical staff on hand were not able to resuscitate her after drowning. They must have gotten to her very quickly. It didn't initially sound like her lungs had been crushed during the brief struggle.

I echo the sentiments of many here, Orchas belong in the Ocean where they appear to be entirely happy to acknowledge and perform for their admirers all afternoon after their pod has fished and feasted during the morning hours in the open waters.


mik   February 26th, 2010 6:14 pm ET

FREE TILICUM!!! Free all Orca's in captivity. They do NOT belong in glorified swimming pools doing tricks .

They are extremely intelligent, social and emotional. Orca's who swim 100,s of miles a day are unhappy in these inhumane animal parks.

Now Tilicum is in isolation. For what? for being unhappy? With his 12,000 lbs and length, he hardly fits in the SeaWorld holding tank.

Take a look at his Pics today.

He was trying to tell us that he is unhappy and frustrated with the death of his trainer.

Please do not let Dawn's death be in vain. She of all people would be grateful if Tilicum would be free to Live in his Oceans from whence he came. Iceland where he was taken from his home.

Free Tilicum!


trm   February 26th, 2010 6:25 pm ET

The 2nd death caused by the orca was to a person who trespassed @ night, went into the pool. He probably surprised or frightened the orca & survival mode kicked.


Jim Carroll   February 26th, 2010 7:44 pm ET

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SUMMIT WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS PROVED ONE THING: THAT DEMOCRATS CARE
ABOUT HEALTH-CARE FOR PEOPLE, AND THE REPUBLICANS
CARE ABOUT PROTECTING INSURANCE COMPANIES AND DOCTORS.

THANKS TO DAVID GERGEN OF CNN NEWS FOR DOING SOME READING AT THE INTERNETFREEPRESS. IF HILLARY CLINTON WOULD DO A LITTLE HOME WORK AT THE INTERNETFREEPRESS.COM, SHE WOULD KNOW THAT AMERICA
DOES NOT NEED TO BE A DEBTOR NATION.


Gerald Jolly   February 26th, 2010 7:54 pm ET

I guess the spokesman for mankind, Terry Tx believes would should have a quick and fair trial for Tilly and euphanise him.

HANG EM HIGH!!

That's the Texas way Hu!


Cindy   February 26th, 2010 8:55 pm ET

It has been said that the trainer was laying beside Tilly, something that no one was to do; so apparently she made a mistake. I agree with those who feel this was not an act of aggression, but rather play or exploration.
Also, he goes back to work in the next couple of days. No change unfortunately.
My condolences go out to the trainer's family. Tilly should be free, but the trainer should be remembered; we all should love animals as she did.


A. Smith, Oregon   February 27th, 2010 12:19 am ET

The video's made mere minutes before the trainer went to the other side of the tank to engage with Tilly with a belly-rub and was reportedly pulled under SHOW a metal object around her neck of about 3 inches in length. The object looks very much like the small silver fish she was feeding Tilly and other Orcha's mere minutes earlier.

In my opinion Tilly thought that object was another fish the trainer was going to feed him and closed his mouth on it, when the trainer pulled back Tilly the Orcha pulled her down into the pool thinking it was a game of tug of war. However the object was securely hung around the trainers neck.

If Tilly had actually attacked the trainer, there would be multiple body parts in the pool after-wards. Next to a huge Orcha, humans are as fragile as an egg shell and the tiniest confusion on Tilly or the trainers part can result in the gravest of consequences and outcomes.

I'm very sad the emergency medical rescue staff was unable to rescue and resuscitate the trainer after she drowned. The world seems sadder with the loss of animal advocates such as Steve Irwin and now Dawn Brancheau. RIP Dawn, thank you for your dedication, strength and courage.


Jessie from Auckland, NZ   February 27th, 2010 3:24 am ET

Yes, one does wonder whether the deaths of these two animal lovers..........Steve Irwin and Dawn Bancheau........... could have been avoided. It seems to come down to...........that they could have made a costly mistake.

Something went terribly wrong. Whether the Orcha Whale or Dolphin meant only to play. Very sad really.

R.I.P Dawn Brancheau

R.I.P Steve Irwin


Jessie from Auckland, NZ   February 27th, 2010 3:49 am ET

In the other blog that I just read...........it says the Trainer was interacting with the whale..........when she was grabbed by her ponytail and then dragged under ............ in knee-deep water .............for an extended period of time.

The Rescuers were not able to get to her, because the Whale was too aggressive.

"She was recovered by SeaWorld staff members after Tilikum was coaxed into a smaller pool and lifted out of the water by a large platform on the bottom of the smaller tank, authorities said.

"While this incident remains the subject of an ongoing death investigation, there are no signs of foul play," the sheriff's statement said. "All evidence and witness statements indicate that the death was a tragic accident."


Jessie from Auckland, NZ   February 27th, 2010 4:01 am ET

They must have known the risks they took in working in these types of environment and one consolation is that they died doing what they loved best.

GONE TOO SOON

R.I.P.


A. Smith, Oregon   February 27th, 2010 4:27 am ET

The US Senate should craft a bill that would make it illegal to keep any Orcha Whale in captivity over 1/2 of its expected lifespan before releasing that Orcha Whale back into the Ocean.

I can think of no greater memorial to the brave and dedicated Sea World trainer Dawn Brancheau who tragically lost her life showing the world how beautiful and graceful these huge sentient creatures are.

Oregonians rescued Willie-Kiko a female Orcha Whale from a Mexican resort tank and after medical rehab successfully released Willie-Kiko back to the Ocean where she lived free for her last 10 years and died as a free Orcha Whale with her pod mates.


Horsegirl   February 28th, 2010 8:48 pm ET

I agree with Jack Hanna's comment on Sea World. Yes Orcas are wild animals, but releasing all the animals into the ocean seems like radical thinking.


Dolores Ruckert   February 28th, 2010 10:49 pm ET

First of all my sincerest sympathies to anyone who knew this woman who undoubtably loved and was fascinated by these animals.

Secondly I'm sad for the Orca. Whatever triggered him might be the same kind of thing that happens with the family dog.

I do agree, he is a wild animal and should be in his own world. We owe it to (them. ) There should be another way to show them off other than having trainers in the water with them.

And what does this tell the next generation of kids?

No blame to the animal because it might have been a pure misque that turned deadly, we will never know,

but purely profit that Sea World couldn't refund money or whatever that the show went on??

We blame kids for drugs, pregnancy and wanting everything they see.
This is more of the same.

Money takes precedance over absolutely everything, when time out can't be taken to grieve for both the young woman and the animal she undoubtably loved with a passion.

We should look for a way to be kinder. It comes with a price, but so does a generation hearts of stone motivated by dollars.

You've made a lot of money, Sea World, we love you, but I'm afraid I would much prefer a little respect for all involved right now.

You'll have another day, more than I can say for her.

California..three strikes....time to retire Tiily or retool.

We wish you all well.


Donald L Allen   March 1st, 2010 6:46 pm ET

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Donald L Allen   March 1st, 2010 6:47 pm ET

y'all there is something wrong with your full cast what put the country in the place in the first place if there is nutting wrong with your rule than there problem nutting wrong with the rulE set forth so maybe there is something wrong with the roll you speck of if it only has something to do with your way of doing or your prosper you read the lip see you Donald L Allen's so what is true and what is not so you tell me what does the rule have to do with what I do here my Business is the right way to go four me or you get the price is that what it about see you Be good US or the white house


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