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December 29, 2009

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Posted: 06:07 PM ET

Terror in the Air

BREAKING NEWS–

THE TERROR SUSPECT– WHO ALLEGEDLY GOT ON A PLANE WITH A BOMB– WAS

REPORTED TO THE C-I-A BY HIS OWN FATHER-

 DID THE AGENCY DROP THE BALL– PUTTING HUNDREDS OF LIVES ON THE LINE?

And, we want to hear from you...

What should come first with air travel security: privacy or safety?

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Dodie   December 29th, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Good Evening Larry King and CNN staff:

Possible solution:

We have no power or control over other countries’ airport security policies and procedures.

What we do have is military bases all over Europe and in many countries, they are considered “American Soil” In Greece for example when Hellinkon AB was open, it shared the same runways as the Athens International airport. Why not convert some of our military bases in Europe into mini airports which would serve as flights into the US ONLY! In other words, no aircraft can fly into the US without flying out of these ‘mini-airports’. With this in mind, we could implement very strict security and maintain some control. The ‘buck’ has to stop before the person enters the airliner!


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 6:40 pm ET

American's are being pushed to attack Yemen and strike back at what the powers that be indicate where and how the Nigerian bomber got the explosive and indoctrination into his Muslim belief prior to his attack on a International flight to America. Given the information that is being released, that seems a very logical and persuasive argument for action.

Here are some additional points:

Why isn't the well dressed man of Indian decent that talked for the Nigerian bomber at the Amsterdam security gate and convinced them to board that man on a International Flight to America without a passport which was witnessed by two passengers on that flight, NOT on America's Most Wanted Fugitive List?

Why isn't that mans photo taken at Amsterdam's Security gate being released to the public?

That man should be on the FBI most wanted list, he obviously didn't take the flight himself which certainly suggests he knew the man he was helping had a bomb.

Something is very wrong here, American's should demand that man be apprehended and for the security photos of him to be released to the public.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

@ A. Smith

That is the problem. We have no control over the P & P’s of other countries’ with regards to security at airports. This year it’s Yemen, next year it’s Pakistan, the year after its Malaysia and so on. Where does all this end? Terrorist organizations are worldwide. Putting pressure on Yemen is a good idea. But I fear a military strike would create more problems than good.

I certainly agree we definitely dropped the ball on this one. The father of the man reported him. What a disaster that the dots were not connected. 300 lives could have been lost because no one connected the dots. And even if they had, we have no idea of the security of that airport was not paid off, or a Yemen was hired or if our list would even filter down to the security of all airports across the world. Just too many variables which could cause another person gaining access.


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 7:35 pm ET

@ Dodie, IF a State Dept. Diplomat or US Govt. Agent is going to walk a bomber around various security check points, in order to get that bomber on a flight to America, there is no additional draconian torture upon American airline travelers that is going to prevent that bomber from getting on that airplane.

All of these knee jerk reactions appear to be misdirection, window dressing and placebo's designed to cover up what two creditable witness's described on the flight that was attacked.

Perhaps in REALITY they are designed to steer President Obama into a predictable bombing campaign upon Yemen and pour hundreds of billions more taxpayer dollars into 'Homeland Security'.


joe,nj   December 29th, 2009 7:56 pm ET

No airplane should fly out of the Netherlands to the US of A until further notice. And Americans should have enough brains not to go to the Netherlands either. Maybe then they will get the message.
This did not happen under our control.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 7:57 pm ET

@ A. Smith: It is interesting you come to the same conclusion as some people I know. They think this is all from within the US government in an attempt to release trillions of our taxpayers’ dollars. I do not think Obama is part of this; however, there are many nameless very high government level personnel, especially military connected generals that could stand to make a lot of money not to mention our government defense contractors such as Boeing.

When we are not at war, these contractors stand to lose billions of our taxpayer dollars. This is a very sad conclusion in my opinion!


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 8:29 pm ET

This I just received from Central China's TV and find it quite interesting.

Al-Qaeda had planned to attack oil facilities, government buildings and the British embassy, said Yemen's National Security Chief Ali Mohammad Al-Ansi.

Yemen's Foreign Minister Abu Bakr Abdullah Al-Kurbi said the recent months have seen enhanced cooperation between his country and the United States, and the U.S. information had been a "key element" in Yemen's anti-terror operations.

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@ Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Wan shang hao, Idzan Ismail.

You misunderstood my intentions. I was just using Malaysia to make a statement that in every country in the world, there lies terrorists. Even here in the US, I am sure we have cells somewhere. I also used Malaysia because Central China TV had mentioned your government killed a well known Al Qaeda member this year.

Qing yuan liang!

Dodie


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 8:35 pm ET

@ Joe, Amsterdam has very heavy security screens and checkpoints. Perhaps Israel has tougher screening but both are equal or higher than the average checks and screening found in the typical American airport.


PatriotOne   December 29th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Who exactly is Al Qaeda? My understanding is that Al Qaeda was created by the CIA to incite revolution throughout the middle east. Has CNN commenced any comprehensive investigation into the origins of Al Qaeda? How can CNN report Al Qaeda is a threat without the facts and truth about Al Qaeda, it's founders, and it's funding sources?


A. Ahmad   December 29th, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Dodie,
I agree with you more pressure on Yemen is the right strategy at this time.
I read the following statement on Aljazeera:
Analysts say Yemen is of huge significance to al-Qaeda.
"Weapons, training, crossing points and the launch of operations have all come from Yemen"
Abd Alelah-Haidar,analyst
"Weapons, training, crossing points and the launch of operations have all come from Yemen," Abd Alelah-Haidar, a "terrorism" specialist who has met Wuhaishi, told Al Jazeera.
"This country is seen as having strategic significance, not only by al-Qaeda, but also by others. "

I think the solution is more pressure and more aids to Yemeni's goverment before it's toooooo late.


René HOUNG   December 29th, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Many news outlets have been talking about buying a ticket with cash as suspicious in Africa. It isn't at all. I am from West Africa and know that 99% of travelers buy tickets with cash in West Africa. Please let CNN viewers know. Thanks. René


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Good Evening Larry King, CNN Staff and fellow bloggers!

@ Idzan Ismail thank you for your interesting offer to visit your country!


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Candy, ask the Dutch Hero what he thinks about US Dept. Homeland Security publicly posting his full name and his home address which likely directly places his very life at risk in his homeland?


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Was the well dressed man of Indian decent that steered the Nigerian bomber past Amsterdam's heavy security checkpoints and got him on his flight to America without a passport, a US CIA Agent or some other US Govt. Official?


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

"He who trades liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both."
-Thomas Jefferson

Why is CNN not covering these issues revealed in interviews with passengers from the flight?

1) The suspect had no ID or travel documents and was escorted and allowed on due to the persuasion of a well dressed Indian-looking man. Who was this man and what was his role here?
2) A man on the flight was witnessed videotaping the suspect and his actions during the failed attempt. Who was this man and what was his role here and what does this video show?
3) After the plane landed the passengers were left on the plane for several minutes while there could still be explosives or fire near the fuel tanks in the wings.
4) After the passengers were taken off of the plane, they were sequestered and an hour into this bomb dogs were brought in and alerted on a bag owned by a man who was seized and escorted out in handcuffs. Then the officials moved the rest of the passengers mentioning it was due to what they just witnessed (for safety). Who was this man and what was his role here?

I think the CIA is covering up a black op from other agencies here. Good op to stoke up support for public military action in Yemen. What sheep!


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:07 pm ET

This jihad stuff sucks is there ever going to be an end to it.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:09 pm ET

"He who trades liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both."
-Thomas Jefferson


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Why is CNN not covering these issues revealed in interviews with passengers from the flight?

1) The suspect had no ID or travel documents and was escorted and allowed on due to the persuasion of a well dressed Indian-looking man. Who was this man and what was his role here?
2) A man on the flight was witnessed videotaping the suspect and his actions during the failed attempt. Who was this man and what was his role here and what does this video show?
3) After the plane landed the passengers were left on the plane for several minutes while there could still be explosives or fire near the fuel tanks in the wings.
4) After the passengers were taken off of the plane, they were sequestered and an hour into this bomb dogs were brought in and alerted on a bag owned by a man who was seized and escorted out in handcuffs. Then the officials moved the rest of the passengers mentioning it was due to what they just witnessed (for safety). Who was this man and what was his role here?

I think the CIA is covering up a black op from other agencies here. Good op to stoke up support for public military action in Yemen. What sheep!


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:11 pm ET

I remember growing up in America when IF there was a problem with the CIA and or national security it was kept under wraps until it was dealt with. This new American is always out front declaring exactly where every little crack and chink is, we air our dirty laundry on a relentless basis and I just really have to wonder if this mentality isnt inviting more trouble. We have done nothing now except encourage and delight more moronic Forouks .


joe,nj   December 29th, 2009 10:11 pm ET

@Smith, Have to agree with you re. Dutch Hero. Something we have never learned is to KEEP OUR BIG FAT MOUTHS SHUT. There was
no reason to video tape sand identify the individual.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:12 pm ET

The suspect had no ID or travel documents and was escorted and allowed on due to the persuasion of a well dressed Indian-looking man. Who was this man and what was his role here?


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:13 pm ET

A man on the flight was witnessed videotaping the suspect and his actions during the failed attempt. Who was this man and what was his role here and what does this video show?
3) After the plane landed the passengers were left on the plane for several minutes while there could still be explosives or fire near the fuel tanks in the wings.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:13 pm ET

4) After the passengers were taken off of the plane, they were sequestered and an hour into this bomb dogs were brought in and alerted on a bag owned by a man who was seized and escorted out in handcuffs. Then the officials moved the rest of the passengers mentioning it was due to what they just witnessed (for safety). Who was this man and what was his role here?


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

This looks like a CIA black op, and now there is a cover-up.


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

We have these guys boxed in lets just chase them into the sea and let the sharks eat them.


Jaycob Martin   December 29th, 2009 10:15 pm ET

Give Candy Crowley her own show!!!!!!!! She is hands down the best that CNN has!!!!!!!!


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:16 pm ET

@ joe, thank you, if Homeland Security is utterly stupid enough to place someone like the Dutch man who is in my opinion a true hero in needless harm's way regarding his future life, I fail to understand how they can make any creditable advise.

These people will hunt you down, it places the person, their neighbors and community in danger by such utter lapses in any common sense.


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Just check the Muslim and cut to the chase .


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Its typical for Rep. Dan Burton to slide the blame to Homeland Security.

Candy, ask Rep. Dan Burton, HOW the bomber got on that plane without a Passport?

The list wouldn't matter, the bomber could have any name other than his real name on a visa...


BONNIE COEDY   December 29th, 2009 10:22 pm ET

Did anyone stop and think that the terrorist who tried to bring the jet down on Christmas Day had started this action when it was flying over Canada. Maybe someone needs to check the flight path of this jet before it landed in Detroit. Doesn't it fly over Newfoundland, Quebec and then Ontario before it lands in Detroit? Maybe it was met for Canadians and not Americans. It seems we are all at risk.


Janice   December 29th, 2009 10:23 pm ET

Before boarding a flight bound for the United States, all passengers should go through customs and immigration on foreign soil, like they do in Canada.


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:27 pm ET

All this blaming on ths agency, that agency, the Pres, the CIA, HOmeland security, all balming each other. They should shut up, its a disgrace to our country. You can fight all you want but why does it have to open to the entire world. It really turns my stomach. It sure keeps CNN going.


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:29 pm ET

What ever it was alot of people almost died because of failure to communicate .


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:29 pm ET

This is all propaganda to misdirect from the real facts here showing this may be a CIA black-op cover-up!


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Ben Stein, the bomber was allowed to board his jet without a passport.
Names on a watch list wouldn't mean anything if his Visa name wasn't real.
How many Muslims have literally the same name?


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:31 pm ET

Good Evening Larry King and CNN staff!

Waiving to A. Smith, Michael and Angela. Nice to see you all here!


Robert   December 29th, 2009 10:31 pm ET

What would our founding fathers say? – "Those who would give up freedom for security deserve neither!"


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:32 pm ET

@ angela

The government computers are not tied together. The state, city, county federal governments and agencies within each are on separate systems. This might account for one of the problems......


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:34 pm ET

@ K3N, perhaps! If the two creditable witness's that saw and overheard the well dressed man of Indian decent who spoke for and steered the Nigerian bomber past security screeners in Amsterdam die or are killed in the coming months, I would certainly count that as absolutely possible.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:35 pm ET

@ A. Ahmad

I find it very interesting the CCTV would have an issue regarding Yemen's move towards terrorist reductions due to the US. I wonder where this comes from?


suzy   December 29th, 2009 10:36 pm ET

I can't believe Ben Stein's comment regarding President Obama's clothing choice for his news conference on terror. The Israelis dress down most of the time and their security systems have ours beat by a long shot. It is not about image, it is about substance.


roy in ky   December 29th, 2009 10:36 pm ET

I have never heard so much crap and finger pointing about the "one" person who got on a plane with a bomb in his underwear in Amsterdam. Don't you know that there are 7 billion people in the world now. Why should the Sec of HLS Resign because of this. You are all "niave" to a point of ignorance. Do you think we can be perfectly protected? The loud, resounding answer is no. We have to live with this instead of making it a political football. How about this idea? Every plane should have an armed air marshal aboard. Police, soldiers, military retirees, etc – should all be armed when they fly. Profile the hell out of middle easterners even if they are american. We are in a war in case all of you dumb armchair quarterbacks do not know it. . I cannot believe that you make so much of so little. But I guess you need to somehow fill up your 24 hours with something, even if it is crap. Not even god can be everywhere all the time. Why are the middle easterners mad, it is because we want their riches, just as we have done others during colonialization throughout the past 2000 yearsd This time they have caught on and are fighting back. I shiver from the ignorance and political motives of this land.. Also, all of the republican political commentators are stupid and ignorant. disgusting. What a bunch of cry babies. Bush got us in this bad position but no one said hardly a word when that little idiot was bankrupting us financially and morally. Also, why not some accountability from thr Dutch – I have heard no one mention that. This country needs some common sense – not a bunch of ignorant talking heads who try to tell us what to think.


karen   December 29th, 2009 10:36 pm ET

more security at the airports, i dont think is the answer. homeland security, cia ,fbi etc. dropped the ball, not the law abidding citizens, that are mostly saying they will jump through hoops, because these terrosist are getting through. i stop flying 7 years ago cause of the crap i was subjected to at the airport, and on the planes.i was born and raised here. i am white, have a scandanavin last name, only country i ever been to (besides this one is mexico,canada and australia. yet i have been patted down before a flight from salt lake to las vegas, been wanded every time i boarded a flight from salt lake to vegas. so i dont give a crap if they strip search every passengers in public, cause i wont be the one. next time i will board a plane it will be a private plane


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:37 pm ET

1000 times more people die each month from inadequate Health Care than from any 'perceived' terrorist attack! Let's put this in perspective. The Republican thumpers want hundreds of billions of additional taxpayer dollars poured into the abyss of Military contractors and needless wars!


Paul   December 29th, 2009 10:37 pm ET

Once again the public is being asked to give up some form of privacy because someone else dropped the ball. Naked body scanners are not the answer. Correct and efficient use of intelligence and investigating are the way to go.


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Here is a great idea, each airline designates a small number of planes out of their fleet to fly "possible terrorist". They wont have as many flights to pick from but they will still have some access to the skies. if they blow up the plane they have saved on explosives and sure helped us. The crew should be Muslim as well. No problem, polo shirts welcome.
The rest of us go on to enjoy the pleasure of flying. That nice warm feeling when you can finally board and sit down and think about whats next over a drink, maybe looking out on a window seat. No more restictions on what make up or bag you can take, or when you can get up etc. No more searches or TSA stuff, just good old day stuff.
I really prefer to be as far away from these people as possible. Call me politically incorrrect. They seem to feel the same way. The BIG difference between me and them, is that they are willing to kill me midair, whereas I just dont care about them.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:38 pm ET

@ Karen

I understand your feelings. When you are 30,000+ feet in the air there is no survival. I am planing on a 14 hour flight soon and I often think of that.


Joy   December 29th, 2009 10:38 pm ET

Safety, all the way. No one in their right mind would rather hundreds of people dying than having some random security personel looking at your naked body for a few seconds. It's absolutely ridiculous. Everyday people have their private and sensitive areas exposed to doctors for several minutes, so the idea that someone would be sqeamish at the idea of full body scans is completely senseless. If these full body machines are installed in airports across America, we can catch terrorists like this one and at the same time save time by eliminating metal detectors and the bag scans. It would be a simple, few-second walkthrough. Safety trumps privacy when it comes to protecting innocent people from deadly terrorists.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:39 pm ET

You people are blind.


Greg - Canada   December 29th, 2009 10:40 pm ET

I have to fully agree with Ben Stein... President Obama should have worn a Tie! If he had a tie on... the Terrorists would have taken his statement more seriously.

I also think Ben Stein should have asked... Were the screeners at Schipol wearing a Tie...? Was the CIA official wearing a Tie...?

Wearing a tie is the cornerstone to combating Terrorism !!


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:41 pm ET

K3N why are we blind?


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Nigerians and generally Africa as a whole is a cash society.Practically everyone buys everything and pays cash so it wouldn't have actually have been odd if he bought the ticket with a credit card.Again,Nigerians have been visiting the United States for over 40years and this is the first time this has happened and from all perspectives,he got his influuence,not from Nigeria but Yemen.REP. BURTON should please travel outside the United States to other places to widen his knowledge of people.The honesty of Nigerians with respect to terrorism is revealed by the fact that his father,instead of covering him up reported his son to the authorities.Most African medical professionals in the States are Nigerians.Thanks.


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Why do you say that K3n... what do you see?


K3N   December 29th, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Okay, again...

1) The suspect had no ID or travel documents and was escorted and allowed on due to the persuasion of a well dressed Indian-looking man. Who was this man and what was his role here?
2) A man on the flight was witnessed videotaping the suspect and his actions during the failed attempt. Who was this man and what was his role here and what does this video show?
3) After the plane landed the passengers were left on the plane for several minutes while there could still be explosives or fire near the fuel tanks in the wings.
4) After the passengers were taken off of the plane, they were sequestered and an hour into this bomb dogs were brought in and alerted on a bag owned by a man who was seized and escorted out in handcuffs. Then the officials moved the rest of the passengers mentioning it was due to what they just witnessed (for safety). Who was this man and what was his role here?

I think the CIA is covering up a black op from other agencies here. Good op to stoke up support for public military action in Yemen. What sheep!


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Dodie, Hi girl! Happy Holidays.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:47 pm ET

@ K3N

Yes, I have thought of... follow the money trail! Boeing and other defense contractors would lose billions of dollars if we were not continually at war.

You certainly have a valid point


Gretchen   December 29th, 2009 10:48 pm ET

I'm not a muslim,but micheal from texas I wonder how many christians killed in the name of the lord.All those lynchings one night then off to chruch sunday morning terrorist comes from all sides.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:49 pm ET

Yeppers... Angela. another year gone and a new one on its way. You are just too cute!


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 10:51 pm ET

A. Smith, Oregon.The guy had a passport.ENTRY VISAS ARE STAMPED ON PASSPORT BOOKLETS!!!!!!No one can leave a country or enter another without a valid visa ON A PASSPORT BOOKLET! A lot of people really need to travel the world to be educated.If he didn't have a passport with a visa on it,he wouldn't be allowed outside Nigeria neither will he be allowed into the airport in Amsterdam.


angela   December 29th, 2009 10:51 pm ET

The face of terrorism will change and start appealing to more and more fringe groups. It is because young men need to feel a purpose and mission in life. It is no wonder this so called holy war mission type of behavior is so very appealing to many young men looking for a purpose in life. Any unfocused young man is vulnerable to these brain washing recruiters.


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:52 pm ET

How does Jasper feel about air travel now.


ckelly   December 29th, 2009 10:54 pm ET

I have worked in Welfare in the past and in the 90's "new comers", could dump their passports in the garbage at the airport, and walk straight into immigration at the airport-declare refugee status- and could then walk straight into to the welfare office.NO QUESTIONS ASKED for at least 18 months. Many, many times the claimant had three or four names (especially Asian names, ie Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese, Somalian, Arab etc-many family members have the exact same names-male and female. ) -they often used the passports of relatives all ready living in the country to enter.

I still believe we can not give up our freedoms for bad security that can not guarantee there will never be another terrorist attack. There are so many crazies in the world we have to accept the likelihood-that we could die by psychopath. The government needs to clean up their act-and not again, make tax payers pay for their ineptitude and high salaries, higher connections.


Jill   December 29th, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Safety first. That said, clearly Delta airlines in Europe had enough information and red flags to stop this un-gentleman from flying. Why isn't this discussed more?


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Every time we invade a country, we create more hatred and terrorists. Why do you think we are singled out more than other countries. You do not see terrorists going to China!

I feel like we are a dog, chasing our own tail!


Johnny   December 29th, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Great job Candy first to Ben Stein about Obama not being in a tie with his suit President Bush spend a third of his presidency at Crawford Texas in jeans cowboy boots and a shirt didnt hear Ben complaining about that Obama is on vacation second It took Bush nine days to give a speech on the Shoe bomber when that failed incident happened you wont hear that from Rep Burton or any one else from the right some one please tell Ed Henry that bit of information too the hypocrisy and blame game in Washington is amazing . No wonder no one believes anything from the Congress or some in the media. The problem is still the same problem turf battles between agencies and no one talking to the other with the little pieces of information to fit the puzzle to solve possible terror incidents before they happen We really need to come together as a country and stop fighting each other with petty issues before something big really happens


RP   December 29th, 2009 10:57 pm ET

I wish someone would ask the hero Jasper Schuringa if his hands will be ok as they were burned when he wrested the bomb away from the terrorist. I would also like to say my prayers are with Jasper as well as grateful appreciation I can't find words to express. I think America owes him an award for his bravery.


michael armstrong sr. TX.   December 29th, 2009 10:57 pm ET

I want to see the film of this event.


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 10:58 pm ET

@ Serene Glen, thank you for making that point. The two creditable witness's include an attorney who overhead the well dressed man of Indian decent speaking totally for the Nigerian bomber, stating the Nigerian 'HAD NO PASSPORT'. Ok, so I guess you agree it is normally impossible for someone to travel internationally to America without a Passport which is the point we have been stating and making et. al.


Gretchen   December 29th, 2009 10:59 pm ET

Jasper is a real true hero,a man that forgot himself and saved so many.We need more of that in this counrty and around the world.Great Job Jasper!!!!!


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

ckelly, that is very true. The people from mexico travel with numerous names and famly members use each others' passports. Also, there is a huge black market for "fake passports"

It would really stink when you are falling 30 thousand feet in a ball of fire wishing you had flown on different aircraft!


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

This terrorist Nigerian guy HAD ALL HIS TRAVELLING DOCUMENTS.Apart fromthe agreement between America and Canada,NO ONE CAN LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN WITHOUT A VISA STAMPED ON A PASSPORT BOOKLET!. K3c pls get educated! I made a mistake in my first posting......the guy would have raised eyebrows if he bought his ticket with a credit card.EVERYONE PAYS CASH IN AFRICA! People pay cash for everthing!!!!!! A lot of people really need to travel out to get educated!


A. Smith, Oregon   December 29th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

@ Dodie, indeed apparently American tourists need to avoid Yemen for the next 10 years. I don't know any Yemen people, somehow they are going to become enemys?

Good nite Candy, and Larry King, CNN Staff


ckelly   December 29th, 2009 11:02 pm ET

Yes Dodie-indeed. That would really stink!!!


angela   December 29th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

That mind of yours Dodie is going to keep you alive and young. I can see you in a nursing home in 30 years blogging and watching Cnn with a laptop built into your wheel chair . The question is......who will still be blogging back? lol.
By then Martians should be in the white house too.


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 11:06 pm ET

Funny Yemen unscambled reads 'enemy'.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:07 pm ET

ROFL Angela....

you only live but once~! better make it count!


angela   December 29th, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Yep, it helps to have a little spit in you too!


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Angela... We both will be in our wheelchairs blogging away in 30 years...


angela   December 29th, 2009 11:12 pm ET

I need to get a job on these planes. I just bring my knitting on large metal needles, wear my gold "A" necklace with very sharp points and I think I would be a great security person.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:13 pm ET

Angela... what a mind.. you should write a book


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:15 pm ET

Angela... I think you would definitely get a security position and those knitting needles are dangerous ~whew~ even been poked by one lol


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 11:17 pm ET

CNN please don't report evrything.You are exposing us to the whole world and these terrorists capitalize on our weaknesses to plan new strategies.It's obvious they are watching your reports religiously.Thanks so much Jasper!GOD BLESS YOU


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:17 pm ET

Do you realize, every time I fly back from China, I bring at least (3 to 4) 4 foot swords. I have done it so often, everyone at the Shanghai airport knows me! I am the only American traveling with a bunch of swords ... lol


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:18 pm ET

@ Serene Glen

I suspect they are watching and laughing at us...


LMel   December 29th, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Why did she stop Rochelle (one of the passengers from the Xmas Flight 253) from talking when she was saying how bad the security in Amsterdam was compared to the states. She said they did NOT make them take their shoes off and her mother had a bottle of water that they did not inspect. As soon as she was comparing this....they all of the sudden had to go to the next show (Anderson Cooper show). How convenient! Remember also that TSA is NOT in Amsterdam or Nigeria.


Dodie   December 29th, 2009 11:23 pm ET

This is from China TV. This is interesting...

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin wants to see his country develop offensive weapon systems to counter U.S. missile shield plans. He says it's important in order to retain an equal balance.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 11:27 pm ET

This was a CIA op. Get a clue.


Anne Dubin   December 29th, 2009 11:28 pm ET

I BELIEVE NAPOLITANO IS NOT THE ISSUE. rIGHT AFTER 9/11
WE DISCOVERED THAT SOME LOW LEVEL FBI MAN IN THE MIDWEST HAD SENT A MEMO TO HIS BOSS ABOUT A SUSPICIOUS
GUY WHO WAS TAKING FLYING LESSONS HERE. HIS BOSS,
A FIELD SUPERVISOR IGNORED THE UNDERLING'S CONCERNS
AND DID NOT ESCALATE THEM TO THE NEXT LEVEL. tHE FLIGHT
STUDENT TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER BOMBERS. BEN STEIN'S COMMENT ABOUT THE
BUREAUCROCY BEING TO BLAME ARE PROBABLY RIGHT..
BECAUSE IF A MID LEVEL GUY SENDS A MESSAGE AND HIS BOSS
THINKS IT'S NOT IMPORTANT IT WON'T GET TO A SR. LEVEL PERSON.sOMEONE AT CIA DROPPED BALL..NOT JANET NAPOLITANO I THINK.THE BOSSES HAVE TO FORWARD THE
WARNINGS!!!!!!


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 11:39 pm ET

@ Dodie-I totally agree


roy in ky   December 29th, 2009 11:41 pm ET

@angela. You go girl. I think you are spot on. See my comment, last on the page now.


K3N   December 29th, 2009 11:56 pm ET

Are you people actually terrified a boogeyman (terrorist) is going to get you? Pathetic!


Serene Glen   December 29th, 2009 11:56 pm ET

Goodnight everyone.Wishing you all a Happy New Year


K3N   December 30th, 2009 12:00 am ET

."He who trades liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both."
-Thomas Jefferson


angela   December 30th, 2009 12:10 am ET

K3N... Jefferson was very enlightened, way ahead of his time, brilliant.
Roy, you and I certainly agree!
Everone else good night my dears!


Steve   December 30th, 2009 1:35 am ET

What are the odds of this happening again? Privacy!! Who wins of this security paranoia? The terrorists and big business!


Eva DeLawrence   December 30th, 2009 2:28 am ET

Safety!... because once passengers are killed, there is no longer an issue with privacy to them!


Thomas   December 30th, 2009 3:35 am ET

Hi Larry,
I am a follower of news on CNN, and tonight I am deeply disturbed by a comment somebody made while talking on LKL, about The Secretary of Homeland Security quiting, regarding the attempted terror attack on a US airline on Christmas day..
As an African who came to USA in a multiple entry Visa a few years ago, I think we all ought to look at the root problem.
First,when you apply for a US visa you go through rigorous security check and interviews. Once you are lucky to be approved for a visa, you leave your passport at the US embassy or consular for 2 days,during which time they should check into your criminal records. That Nigerian name should have popped up and he should have been denied a visa. In this case, somebody surely didn't do their job.
Secondly, lets assume his name didn't pop up, maybe say "the computers didnt work right", and he was awarded a visa, it is a requirement for every foreigner travelling to the US for the first time,regardles of who they are, to purchase a two way(Round-trip) air ticket. Again somebody screwed up by selling him a one-way ticket.
Third, lets assume the ticket seller was desperate for money and couldnt play by the rules, leading to the fact that he had a one-way ticket. Before boarding any airline with a US visa, they should have stopped him at the airport(Lagos and/or Armsterdam) and inquired why he did not have a two-way ticket. Again somebody screwed up.
Now, why did he pick on Armsterdam and not Heathrow? Because he had been denied a visa to the UK, and we all know that many crazy things happen in Armsterdam. Prostitution is legal,drugs are legal, there is a lot of crime, therefore anything can happen.
Those are the roots of this failed terrorist attempt.


Dodie   December 30th, 2009 5:44 am ET

@ K3N

You are absolutely correct! It was a CIA covert operative. All you have to do is follow the $$ trail and it is obvious! ~sigh~


Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   December 30th, 2009 9:12 am ET

Why is CNN or other media in America not interviewing the passenger sitting next to the suspect.
I want to know how he behaved throughout the flight, whether he ate or slept, nervous or jittery.
The crew sgould tell us how he acted during meal times.
The fact that he wasnt violent when apprehended showed that he was just a boy trying to be violent but do not have the guts.
And i am sure his underpants was Calvin Klein. or is it Hanes or Jockey??
So much for being anti-Am,erica.


A. Ahmad   December 30th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

Dodie,
not sure about CCTV.
I give a thups-up for missile strikes by the Yemen army only.
Air strikes by the US make the situation worse by creating more hatred and terrorists especially inside uneducated tribes.


Rose   December 30th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

A Nigerian man supposedly backed by Al Qaeda in Yemen is responsible for this latest terror attempt. I've said this many times before: US involvement in Afghanistan is NOT going to deter terrorist threats. Al Qaeda is NOT in Afghanistan. Per American General McChrystal in September '09: "I do NOT see indications of a large Al Qaeda presence in Afghanistan". The last count is about 100 Al Qaeda there (US sources). We are at war for 100 people!!!!

Americans who are making great sacrifices by going to war in Afghanistan and their families need answers. Why is the US still there in an escalated capacity? To protect us? Al Qaeda is long gone and in other countries such as Pakistan, Yemen, parts of Africa etc. Is the US going to bomb other sovereign nations where they are located? We have had too many civilian casualties due to this. The overwhelming majority of these continued civilian deaths are innocent Muslim people.

US presence in Afghanistan is not about freedom and security. It is about building permanent military bases surrounding Eur-Asia to monitor mainly Russia and China. The origin of this latest attempt is evidence enough that terrorism is not bound to a country. 100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and tens of thousands of US troops is not going to help the US cause. In fact it is going to increase hatred against the US due to the continued military presence, as is the case in Iraq and Afghanistan – for reasons other than US security.


BONNIE COEDY   December 30th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Does anyone care that this incident took place over Canadian Air Space. Remember the plane had not yet landed in Detroit. It's seems that we Canadians should be very upset if this plane had blown up over Southern Ontario. Why is no one reporting this very important information. Doesn't Mrs.Obama have family in Toronto, Ontario? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to stop and fiqure out what air space this incident took place over. We Canadians needs some answers to.
Maybe Anderson Cooper can get some straight answers for us. JD Roberts and Ali Velchi your Canadian maybe you understand what I'm talking about.


Rose   December 30th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

Bonnie: You're correct. The Delta plane was over Canadian airspace jurisdiction, that is the flight path trajectory to Detroit. Had the bomb detonated, it would have been similar to Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. Certain parts of Canada (especially southern areas of eastern provinces) are subject to this risk. Point of origin security at airports is critical. How this can be implemented effectively throughout so many, varied countries is another question.


vallary   December 30th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

Everybody drop the ball on this one. Why did someone (reporting)pay for a ticket with cash, no passport, no bags, not throw up a flag. If you look back on how people do this. it is right in front of us. Just like the van they found in time square, they are reporting it was there for 2 days. The terriost can be a one man show, or a army, they put stuff right in our faces. It amazes me how fast the reporter can put all this together a hour after something happens, but, NO BODY seen it coming. Just like 9-11 those guys pay $10,000 to learn to fly a plane but, didnt' want to learn how to land? I think if another person gets on CNN and says" do you think there are more out there." WHERE DO YOU LIVE.. there are alot of them out there. all the soliders over there fighting and what does ONE guy do that could have been so awful on Christmas do. Almost blow up a plane. ONE GUY . It goes back to clean your on back yard before you talk about somebody elses?


Dodie ~ CA   December 31st, 2009 3:52 pm ET

@ A. Ahmad

CCTV is Central China TV. When looking at world news, it is always advisable to obtain the information from a variety of sources. Every country has ‘their’ slant on the news they present to the people of the country and we are no exception. In this reference, one can maintain somewhat impartiality especially if your own country may have some involvement in the situation.


Dodie ~ CA   December 31st, 2009 3:57 pm ET

@ Rose

As usual, you are right on target! I completely agree that our involvement in Afghanistan will not deter future terrorist attacks. Also, there seems to be a large amount of oil reserves in northern Afghanistan as in Yemen! I find that quite interesting.


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