From The Los Angeles Times
Prosecutors and police investigators don't expect to file charges in connection with Michael Jackson's death before 2010, law enforcement officials told The Times.
The officials said there is such much evidence to review - some of it complex medical data - and that they have sought the help of outside medical experts.
A decision on whether to file criminal charges is "months rather than weeks away," one source said.
Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician who provided him with the anesthetic propofol that coroner's officials say killed the pop singer, has been identified as a suspect in a manslaughter investigation in search warrants and remains the focus of the probe.
The investigation has resulted in large quantities of information that need to be carefully reviewed not only by LAPD detectives, but also prosecutors and some outside medical advisers before a final decision is made on how to proceed in the case, according to sources familiar with the investigation. They spoke to The Times on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
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Murray needs to be in Jail while this is going on. Why the hell is allowed to practice medicine while Michael is lying in cold crypt. He is a murderer. Michael deserves justice.–When is he going to get it?
omg months we allready waited so long
its bin 5 months now since michael died murdered by that dr death
well iff it works and they put his ass in jail we can wait
all we want is justice for michael
so his children prince,paris and blanket and the jacksons famely also get justice and see the man who did this in jail
and lindafromnewyork your right that man shouldent practice again
its crazy that a person like him get his lisens back and can do this again
They keep saying the same thing "complex medical data" how complex can it be for god's sake.
This has nothing do to with medication that MJ took in 1993 or 1997 it has to do with "acute intoxication of propofol" injected by Murray which we all know and the LAPD know so what is the hold up...they even know he ordered it from out of state through his girlfriend......is there another investigation relating to MJ that the public doesnt know about!
yes right lora i dont know why its taking so long to but i hope that there is something good comming out and that they sent that dr criminal ass to jail
I sure hope so as well.....if not the fans should rebel
they will you can bet on that michael got so many fans and they want justice too like us
It is getting rediculous!!!
I mean I am glad they are taking there time but come on.. Murray has pretty much started to get is life back in order and Michael Jackson doesnt have that opportunity!!!! They need to make an arrest, revoke his licence, SOMETHING!!!
I know that is why I'm saying there is something else that maybe was not released to the public about MJ case.....strange....but yet Anna Nicole took a year before making an arrest!
@Lora that is true!!!
I know it takes long... man.. its crazy having to stand by idle.. not able to do anything but wait!!!! I mean something needs to go down!!!
Thank you for the new blog Larry!
inregards to your first post........cus MJ is not dead. Dont you see all the weirdness in this case at all?
shoot d...n i breake a nail sorry but i did im really pissed off i said i can wait but i lie
I think Murray's lawyer is building a case on the fact that Mj was a "drug addict" and trying to prove that he begged for it from Murray...even going as far as Murray saying that MJ gave himself the fatal dose!
What About Us
What about you go to the other blog with your "kind"!
what about us
do you see the wierdness off that you tink he is alife its crazy
I heard that... he is crazy... how can someone under propofol get up and give himself the last dose through IV.. its just ludacris!!!!
im not going to complain if the authorities would take their time on this case as long as they would bring all the enablers asses to jail....i want not only Murray but everyone who were involved.. for me Murray has been long sentenced to death by me but only it doesn't work that way.. i can only hope that justice will be served right..
well i hope lora that the lawyers from mrs jacksons are doiing there job too
they wont sit still
and to add to that... Murray should of been in the room to monitor him he shouldnt of been able to give this "so called final dose"
with my "kind"????? WTF does that mean?
Oh...ok...I'll go with people who are normal then? People who are able to see this is all fake? How can you not see this?
Rfergie the fatal dosis no michael cant do this at all you bim doped up
and that dr death give him the fatal dosis
LKL thank you for the new blog,,
Yes, we know that this is an on-going complex investigation. We know that there is reams of medical data to review and analyze. So hire more experts, get more help! It is ludicrous that the investigation is taking so long to get to the point of charges being filed. If it is a question of man power - get more investigatoras. If it is a question of not understanding the information to be evaluated, then hire more experts. I am sure there are many highly qualified individuals who would be glad to work the Michael Jackson case. Justice is needed. Answers are required. Do not let this case grow cold. Justice is the final thing we can do for Michael. And I am confident that the fans will not allow him to be forgotten, and that we will fight for justice and resolution!
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL
LOVE LIVES FOREVER
“YOU CAN’T FOOL THE FANS”
DR. QUACK IS WHACK!
PUHALKSA, BABY, TNO HAGS, JITIATI
COME HOME, GENE, MJCSI & CSOTULE NEED YOU!
EYES AND EARS OPEN 8)
@what about us..
We just dont believe sorry that offends you. I know the case is crazy but I just dont believe Michael would fake his own death!!! A lot of celebrity cases are crazy... Michael to me passed away on June 25. I want to see justice served!!
I agree... They need to pool all there resources its not like it hasnt already been 5 months... atleast some new information should be released!!!
When it comes to push and shove, I rather doubt the Jackson family wants the entire sordid 25 year drug usage history on Micheal Jackson to be dragged out and put on public display.
Don't want to tarnish the golden goose that laid the golden eggs, bad for resell!
The defense would likely show the Jackson family knew about Micheal Jackson's 25 year long drug abuse and were connected to those supplying him with all of those drugs.
Está tudo muito estranho.O que está acontecendo com a investigação sobre o assassinato de Michael Jackson??? Por que a polícia de Los Angeles está demorando tanto para prender o médico????? Queremos Justiça!!!!!!!!
Rfergie well said
what about us
so many believers thinks michael is alife than you believe that elvis is is alife too not dead and princess dianna too
i was expecting of something like revoking of license though and that made me upset so much that this man getting his life back but Michael can't do anything but to lie down lifeless in that crypt.... crazy world!
@what about us.... :)
Of course you are entitled to your beliefs and opinions. And yes, I am well aware of the apparent "weirdness" of the case. All of us are. We have been since around noonish on 25 June. But just because something appears to be weird, does not constitute proof that the death of Michael Jackson is a hoax or a stunt or anything else. It is weird that MJ is dead. It is weird that we are still waiting for answers. It is weird that everyone keeps changing their stories and nothing lines up. It is weird that there have been few official press conferences....but none of that adds up to "Michael Jackson faked his death"....IMHO, of course. I am however, open to any hard evidence you may be able to produce. Just remember....blog postings are not evidence, Youtube videos are not evidence. So....what have you got to support your theory?
@ Lori...........do you believe everything you hear, or read? Obviously you do...because you think he's dead. Put 2 and 2 together.
Do you know what Occams Razor is? Look it up if you dont.
@What about us...No. I do not believe everything I hear, read, or even see. I have put 2 and 2 together. And, yes, indeed, I am cognizant of the theory of lex parsimoniae. I do however, believe that lex parsimoniae tends to support the "he died 25 June" camp rather than the "We beLIEve he is alive" camp. Quite simply....Michael Jackson died 25 June....until someone can prove otherwise. I mourn Michael daily and continue to pray for his family. You, of course, may believe whatever you wish....and please, feel free, to convince me of your opinion....
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL
LOVE LIVES FOREVER
“YOU CAN’T FOOL THE FANS”
DR. QUACK IS WHACK!
PUHALKSA, BABY, TNO HAGS, JITIATI
COME HOME, GENE, MJCSI & CSOTULE NEED YOU!
EYES AND EARS OPEN
I dont think you need to be so nasty. Maybe you should go back to bed and try again. Have a nice day.
Ofcourse...its not surprising at all that the investigation on the part of medical records is so complex. Each of those greedy doctors who knew they had a part in enabling MJ all those years made sure that they complicated records deliberately, especially those whose clinics were visited and records from MJ requested from. No need to say their names....they know themselves and some people know also who they are. CROOKS !!!
I don't se how this case is related to Phil Spector who murdered his girlfriend??? or how past drug use is related to what took place June 25th??? Something is being covered up. Why are the Jackson's not filing their own wrongful death case? They do not need to wait for criminal charges.
Sony just released that "This Is It" DVD will be released January 26th. It will consist of 2 documentaries.
LORA and RFERGY,
Did you see in the previous blog with Dr. Propofol in church and being back to practice !!?..... can you belief it that Dr. Death mentioned something like MJ called propofol "his milk". Who knows ???....maybe its Murray who called it that and not MJ. they built up all this BS propaganda around MJ and the propofol so that it looks like MJ is wholly responsible to blame for his death. What a pathetic situation !!!......
I second you on that motion of having sentenced Dr. Propofol long time ago to death !!! And its true that he has to be joined by several others who also have a hand in the whole demise.......
One of the main contributors to MJ's unending nightmares has already taken his own life.... i am just keeping my eyes and ears open to hear what will happen to the rest of them, especially the foremost scapegoat Dr. Propofol....
@What about us....I am not being nasty at all, but I am sorry that you feel that I am. I am interested in what you have to say...I am also interested in any evidence you have to support your beliefs. If you don't have any, or don't want to share, that is OK by me. I was just curious as to why you feel so strongly that he is alive. I am completely open-minded regarding the evidence...but, I find it really difficult to overlook the fact that there is a probabate proceeding underway in California Superior Court with Michael Jackson as the subject decedant. I am not sure why asking you to share your evidence makes you feel threatened; that was certainly not my intent. I was merely seeking an exchange of thoughts and ideas I am way past the age of needing to be sent to my room, or to take a nap just because I have asked you to support your ideas. Again, I was not trying to upset you at all. I understand that you feel sensitive about holding a dissenting belief, but that is totally within your rights to do so. :) And if you only know it in your hear that he is OK, then that is fine too. Please carry on. And remember with the love, L.O.V.E. God Bless You!
I am, however, on my way to see TII again, because for those few hours it seems as if Michael is with us. I need to let it simmer again :)
How dare you come on here and accuse Michael's family of supplying him with drugs. Where the hell do you get such crap. Yes, Michael was addicted to prescription medication, so what. His doctor was a quack plain and simple. How do you inject propofol into someone's vein and walk out of the room. As far as tarnishing Michael's legacy the Jacksons have nothing to worry about. Michael legacy will survive anything–he will always be The Greatest Entertainer that we will ever know.
@A. Smith – Oregon...just curious....are you a Duck or a Beaver? And do you consider yourself a Michael Jackson Fan?
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL
LOVE LIVES FOREVER
“YOU CAN’T FOOL THE FANS”
DR. QUACK IS WHACK!
PUHALKSA, BABY, TNO HAGS, JITIATI
COME HOME, GENE, MJCSI & CSOTULE NEED YOU!
EYES AND EARS OPEN 8)
im sorry. I got the impression you were being rude. I do apologise.
While Michael was alive he never badmouthed his family. Why do some of us feel that it is our job to put the Jacksons down and now to include them among the group that saw to it that Michael did not survive to do this tour. Very Sad.
@ What About Us.... no problem what so ever. Open dialogue is always the best. :) Have a good day. If you can convince me...go for it! I would love to believe that he is alive....but I need more to go on...
Wow, thank goodness a blog with relevant and intelligent postings. Although I agree that answers are much needed to this complicated case that is coated with anxiety and fury, perfection is an absolute with no room for negotiation or margin of error. I am not a conspiracy theorist, so I do not believe that they are hunting for "clues" that are associated with murder in any degree at all. This case was ruled a homicide, much different from murder as homicide simply means "death by another" and murder is death by premeditated malicious intent. Murray's finger may have pulled the trigger, however, many doctors loaded this gun. It is no secret that MJ had a significant history of doctor shopping and laundry list of Rx. medication abuse. Everyone and anyone that wrote a Rx. for Michael Jackson needs to be invesitgated as to justify their medical decisions in Michael's care. What exactly is the "homicide weapon"? The propofol? The benzodiazipines? The doctors? The enablers? His entourage? His insomnia? His vulnerability? I am confident there is an abundance of information and evidence the public is unaware of, as we should be unaware to keep the integrity of this sealed investigation. Wouldn't we rather have it slow and correct than quick and messy? Isn't that why the good ole' Mr. OJ Simpson walked free? (IMHO) Incompetent, wreckless, inexperienced, undereducated investigators collecting evidence, tampering with said evidence and then evidence disappears and goes missing? I'd rather wait the two months or more to give the LAPD and the rest of the investigators time to sort through every single piece of evidence and consult with the most highly trained experts in their field and draw an appropriate conclusion. Who are we pushing this investigation for? Michael or us? Michael had all the patience in the world, and would never approve of a half assed investigation with sloppy and inadequate testimony to represent him when this goes to trial. IMHO of course.
@WHAT ABOUT US- This is NOT the blog to attempt to convince MJ fans that he is alive. Most of us here, at this particular hour and moment, live in reality and have a clear understanding that the very thought of Michael Jackson attempting a death hoax is not only oulandish and ludacris but it is just plain stupid and does not make sense. We give Michael Jackson much more credit than the fool you are trying to make him out to be. This not about "opinion". Death is not an opinion it is clearly a fact, something I cannot dispute so therefore I must end this sentence. And that's as far as it goes. If you feel compelled to "challenge the life or death of Michael Jackson" I suggest you take it up with a Power much higher than us. Michael is wrapped in His arms right now so you may need to take a number.
You were not alone, Michael
i seem to me days are going too slow but i'll be very patience.. i can't wait to see this people join together in one cell having a grand acquaintance party i well serve them with a giant propofol cake with a lots of poisonous icing on it,..they will be dead all together at once.. but on a second thought maybe a long life sentence is better, psychologically torture them slowly and gradually until guilt come over them and kill themselves.......then i will feel better
I know that everyone is mad and sick and tired of all of this taking so long. But lets think of it this way..... Hopefully the delay in all the charges is because they are trying to get every evidence possible, turning over ever rock more than once, so that they can make a rock solid case. We don't want a half ass case against him, we want a strong one. I for one don't Murray to just get a slap on the wrist. He needs to have jail time and not to be able to practice medicine ever. And I think that if charges were brought earlier the case against Murray would not have been strong enough. I look forward to the day charges are given. But we all must have a little more patience. We have to have faith in that justice will be served....
Justice will prevail...
REST IN PEACE MICHAEL
When I read that Murray said Michael called the propofol, " his milk ", I was furious. How do WE know this is true! For all we know it's probably Dr. Murder that was calling the propofol his milk! Anybody can say anything about Michael now because he can't defend himself. First this jerk said that Michael kept asking him to administer more drugs. For all we know Michael may have been incoherent through the whole ordeal. Why should anyone beleive anything this ******* says!
@all – What is all this negativity floating in the air here today? I know it's Monday, but still ... Put a smile on your face, and be nice to each other :-)
Love & peace
it seems to me******typos
everyone is intitled to there own opinons. I want justice served. Michael deserves that. I pray all darkness comes to light.if michaels gone that means pursuing justice.
Planet Earth....Beautiful! Thank you Olgeya, I always wanted to hear that poem :) !
It's absolutely beautiful hearing that poem being read by Michael himself!
Excuse me? I said one thing and get bashed for it! and you call yourself an MJ fan? Im not trying to convince anyone. If I was I would be posting theories and proof. I dont know any more then you do...I just happen to believe differently then you. I have that right. If you dont like my opinion then ignore my posts...plain and simple.
That man Murray must be in all respects a complete lier.......... how dare he even stood infront of that camera that first time when he appeared with his sickening confirmation of innonce and opened his mouth to say something like "the troot will soon come out".
What the Hell truth did he mean really ??? I am actually burning with desire to know the truth Murray was talking about that time..... and instead of those BS truths to come out preferably inside a court of law, Murray is left lurking around the whole of the States and even carrying on with his work. UNBELIEVABLE STUFF...... RIDICULOUS !!!!!
So this is where you all scooted off too.
If they are really planning to do this investigation correctly with no loopholes, may they take all the time they need......
We have waited long enough!!! I can't take this situation any longer and I bet the Jackson Family feels the same way!!! we need something now! and that is PUT DR MURRAY IN JAIL!!!!! He can't be treating anyone else...is putting other people's lives in jeopardy!!
I LOVE YOU MICHAEL AND JUSTICE FOR HIM
MeylingL (twitter user name)
In fact, acute cardiac pain on Michael moved to a chronic (((and even more exhausting (
I want to just close my eyes, heavily compress, and then open and see Michael alive!
More not need anything .....
Michael, we are very lonely without you (((very lonely((((((((((((((((((((((
@ Stacey & @Patty –
I agree with the two of you. To me, it is just fine if they are taking their time. I want to see a comprehensive indictment of all of those involvedresponsible so I am just being patient. Another concern of mine is that along with a trial comes the full autopsy report plus more smearing of MJ by the defense. I am not looking forward to that at all so I am kind of glad it is taking time.
It never end.... they keep to postpone...
I hope it does end. Michael deserves justice. LAPD didn't give him any when he was alive. They owe him.
I think there's not just LAPD who owe him justice.... a lot of people do ...
I LOVE this video! I have this on my favorites and I watch it all the time! Michael is mezmerizing just sitting in the chair! What makes me smile is that he wanted to get up and dance SO BAD! Even in a sitting position he worked that stage! No one else could get away with that! Michael Jackson is One of a Kind!
what about us
I really wish that I could believe that Michael was still alive. Unfortunately, I cannot. Michael died on June 25th. If were to start believing that he is still alive and then have to accept his death all over again, I would have to be committed. Accepting Michael died once is enough for me. Cannot do it twice. So, unless Michael Jackson himself personally gets in touch with me via CNN and tells me that he is still alive, I will believe that he has left the building permanently.
Of course, alot more. Demon Diane for one. The list is too long.
Yeah that was pretty pathetic, " the troot will soon come out " this guy can't even pronounce truth let alone tell the truth! I know his days are numbered but it's just not happening fast enough for me.
@Diane in Minneapolis
I to hoped that everyone involved are brought to justice. I do not think that Murray was alone... Justice will be served......
are you here
"They spoke to The Times on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing."
This anonymity is starting to get absurd already.
What's the big deal if LAPD made an official statement that they were still investigating. I don't see how attaching a specific officer's name to this statement will harm the investigation.
As a matter of fact – they owe this to us.
They can leave Tiger Woods alone instead and concentrate on the real crimes that's been committed against Michael !
Diane and Stacey
Of course he is not alone in this-too involved for just one person to do –too many levels to this murder.
i got you on this one.. i knew it LOL....i meant it for you
i hope you had fun watching it.
as for this case taking months away.. i am really strengthening my patience and my faith to the authorities that are working on this..i hope will see justice soon....
BUT one comments from other site goes "JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED"...i'm scared
I think that the people involved thought it was a no brainer. They didn't anticipate the after affect..... They probably thought everyone would believe Michael died of a heart attack and move on.... But no, we know what really happened..... We know Michael was murdered... They again didn't anticipate that either.....
REST IN PEACE MICHAEL
JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL
"They spoke to The Times on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing."
It's like a mockery, as a minimum,
and the maximum is the highest of not professionality!((
I was hoping that was for me because I mentioned it last night! Ahh, how nice! I never get enough of that video, it ALWAYS makes me smile :) :) :) ! Thank you di!
.... and that one lady snake does owe it to MJ big time ; Diane Demon cow !!!......... she better do it now before she is the next to be found with a self-triggered bullet in the head. I am sure MJ is turning and swirling in his cript especially with all this slow motion of activities going on around the investigation. His spirit must be really working hard to defend his innocence......
I agree with you. Every report which seem to come out these days appears to be working around anynomisity and confidentiality. I think thats the very best of excuses that this whole travesty is now being centred around.... hopefully they can continue finding more and more excuses to fool the fans and those who cared about that man.
The whole world have been kept with their hands on their foreheads for quite a long time now..... everytime the investigation is shifted back. Will this game or whatever stop ??!!! At the beggining it was that the autopsy report was going to be made public in a few weeks, and the few weeks turned into months until its now an issue of medical records which are complicated to the extend of calling outside experts. Oh yeah !! better be that those outside expert does find something if at all they will. Quite interesting that this investigation even calls outsiders now....Hhhmmmmm !!!!!
Justice delayed is justice denied? That's not good.
Think about this, just imagine the uproar that it would cause if Conrad Murray isn't charged in Michael's death.
I don't think the WORLD would be ready for that one. There would be fans EVERYWHERE protesting! Going crazy! Outside of the LAPD, outside of courthouses, out side of Murray's office....EVERYWHERE! It would cause total chaos amongst the family and fans of Michael Jackson all over this entire planet! I'm sure the LAPD is keeping that in mind throughout their investigation.
Allow me to subscribe to your every word.
I totally agree with you, with us to do "foul play"
I would be so afraid to be Murray!!!
MourningMJ November 30th, 2009 4:33 pm ET
Perfect!! And the investigators need to take as long as possible, be as thorough as possible, to ensure justice is served!!! If they screw this case up like the OJ case, there will be hell to pay!!!
I was wondering where you were!
Hey, here u are! I stayed on the other blog and wondered why everybody disappeared.........
Remember that interview with La Toya on the British ITV in September? She said LAPD is doing "a wonderful job" and there will be news within 2 months............
And now they talk about "months away"???
I was stuck in the Wizard of Oz with the pretend wizard still hiding behind the curtain!! I really hope they stay over there...cannot manage to take much more!!
MourningMJ November 30th, 2009 4:33 pm ET
I meant your post was perfect...that other blog has me so pissed!!! And I hope all t's are crossed and all i's dotted before they do proceed.
Hi ladies.... so you are finally in here ??!! I have been checking every rock already for you.
Who can't take it anymore if not me, myself and I ??!! I liked it when you said you#ll be afraid if you were Murray. But does that moron really look like he can get afraid at all ?? Maybe you have to call all the witches and wizards of Oz to make him scared out of his skin...silly fool !!!
Absolutely...see my comment above about the same spinning of weeks into months and more months. They should really know by now we are not at all ready to play this hoola-hoops game with them anymore.
This is ridiculous. Either the LAPD is horribly incompetent or they have no desire or intention to give Michael justice. I lean toward the latter.
Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh My :) !
I have posted many times no news is good news....do the best job possible and leave no stone unturned. And TRUTH I hope will be the last one standing.
Los angeles police department ! more like Los angeles turtle department !
Been waitin' on you too :) !
They need to do their jobs or be replaced. I have no tolerance for incompetence. It just pulls on my heart strings to the point where I can hardly stand it!
Justice for Michael!!
this is not difficult! Dr. Quack drugs Michael, and leaves him alone to die.
this is MURDER!
Dr. Evil must PAY!
thanks for that assurance..iN GOD i trust butit makes me nervous sometimes if i hear negatives like that.. you'll never know.. and yeah the LAPD, they better stick that in there mind or else it will cause riots all over the world.
This is all so sad,poor Michael.RIP Michael.
Perhaps we need to all start calling the LAPD so that they know the fans are watching closely.
Then, we can play the Rockwell song into their voicemails.
It always feels like somebody's watchin me! oh oh oh.
Hi again folks!!!
.... I know why you all escaped that other blog. Its invaded fulltime by this blog plague of youngsters with their chitchat nothings.
Hi Judie.. :) Howz you today ???
I love that statement of yours that the LAPD is more like a turtle department...... I think very soon even a turtle will presumable be able to make a block round and still find them standing at that same spot. Is this incompetence at its slowest or simply perfect competence at its very best as we are made to belief ??? Which is which ??? I am very confused......
Ladies....I'm totally with you, but everyday I try and calm myself by telling myself that they are taking there time to make sure that they have enough evidence to convict Conrad Murray. There is NO WAY this man is just going to walk away from this! All hell would break loose! But it still is strange to me why Murray hasn't been arrested and why he is allowed to return to work.
I'm with you Carie, I'm sure Murray is sleeping with one eye open! He's got to be the most hated man in the world right now!
@ Hi Judie!!
@pat – hello and goodbye, have to get some rest ;-)
@Coco and carie- good night and sweet dreams!!
Allure-love to you!!!
Pat–I so agree...it scares me to think they will rush and botch!!!
Coco-red and gold pants Christmas tree hmmm-sugar cookies would be best, then you can take a bite out of...heehee!!!!
I would personally put them in the lazy / incompetence at its slowest category ! they simply suck at finding the truth!
You're welcome, we have to stick together and support each other!
.... and indeed Dr. Quack has a reason to sleep with one eye open. I am just wondering actually how he is running his daily errands of that clinic of his without his tail being tightly tuck under his pants incase it gets cut off whilst walking around Texas.
I am more than curious even to see a picture or video of him really in action at work.......... why would it not be possible, if it was possible to run that one with him at church ??? Curiosity killed the cat........
Who recently resigned from the LAPD,,,having a brain fart!!
Hi Judie....How are you?
That's what I've always heard, no news is good news! Let's hope that's the case here!
Pat and Coco–
And how is he affording a body guard that he most definately needs??!! And which baby mama is he shacking up with now??!!! She had better watch her hiney too!!!
Good night and sweet dreams..... ggggrrrhhh!!!! ;)
...you really have nice sweet ideas. Red and gold little pants hanging there plus the sweet brown cookies with a lovely smile design made with a cherry icing for MJ's nice lips and a white icing in between for his nice white teeth.. Oh!!! not to forget the big round sexy eyes made with some coconut and chocolate crisps. Hhhmmmm !!!!
brain fart!! LOL so that's their diagnosis. cause I thought they were turtles working at the LAPD!
Hello people, I think the story of a doctor – is absurd. specifically to play for time, everything will be finished when Michael says stop. and soon the doctor will have nothing to fear
Coco-or just the pants w/sweet brown...!!!!!:):) Shame!!
I think that it's all a front! Who in there right mind is going to let this guy give them any type of medical attention. Like you said where the proof. They recorded Murray in church, and in court. Why couldn't they record at least one of these 16 patients he saw that Friday either coming or going! He's just going through the motions to make himself look innocent!
HA!!HA!! Turtle brain farts!!!
Goodnight Allure...Blog Ya Later!
And all these patients are 80 and over!!! Not the greatest time in their lives to doctor shop...stick w/the old, so to speak!!!
If I was this guys " baby mama " I wouldn't want him anywhere around me or the baby!
Theeeheee!!!....definately watch her hiney !!! Really interesting guy he is Quack........
I still can't believe that as a doctor of medicine, the man is unable to pay maintanance for his own kids..... what advice can he then give to some of his patients who come desperately needing someone to talk to and starts talking to him on those basis, if he himself owes maintanance for his own kids ???
Does all this 'recording' his events mean another reality show???!! God could you imagine!!!
And what do we expect from his patients..."hey, he didn't kill me so he's not all that bad"!!!! How can he function knowing what he's done??!! Quack-quack!!!
Are you serious! His patients are all over 80! That explains it....they don't know any better :) ! (I know that wasn't very nice) No disrespect to the elderly, but seriously his patients are over 80??? That speaks volumes!!!
Michael is in a cold crypt and Murray is still going on with his life and they didn't even take his liecance away from him...that is just not right they could at least stop him from being a doctor while the investagation is going on......actually they should never of given him a liecance to start with if they hadn't Michael would still be alive right now......
CARIE and ELLY,
Turtle brain farts indeed !!! I also can't remember the name of the resigned head of LAPD.......
Hhhhmmmm !!!! A real concoction and rollercoaster of events with this investigation. So far we have been fed with so much information which doesn't make sense at all........ I don't know if one would be asked to identify the head and tail of it all, whether they would really able to do it with this investigation.
Well, the ones I saw that were interviewed (80, 81, 81)...sorry! I was exaggerating to make a point, something I tend to do!!! But I'll bet most are elderly, which would explain a lot!!!
Damn Coco....you made that cookie sound SO good! Good enough to eat :) !
An MJCookie. YUUMMYY!!!
Lori Quebec Canada
If this happened in Canada, what would be happening now??
it's time for that Anne lady from youtube to call the police again and ask them about the case! last time she did that they told her something will happen before 2010! I guess they lied to her! B*******
Murray wouldn't be seeing patients right now that is for sure....
that guy needs to go to jail.....for a long long time
All those people who let this Quack to consult them must be way behind with reality. I get goose pimples just to think of a doctor who injected someone to death to consult and maybe even prescribe an injection ???!!!! Jesus of Nazareth !!! I will just be dead even before he touches me with that needle thing.........
I still can't believe he says he did nothing wrong......HELLO YOU KILLED A MAN!!!!
My biggest fear is the defense will go for the jugular while exposing all the past substance abuse...and Murray will walk w/a slap on the butt. He will be portrayed as the doctor who really wanted to help Michael...to 'wean him off the propofol' and to help his 'friend.' Michael had SO many 'friends'!! I would love to cross examine him, alone in side chambers...he would tell the 'troot'!!!!
PAT and CARIE,
Hhhmmm !!! yummy,yummy !!!
You know , I will make sure I take one of those sweet MJ cookies in the morning with my coffee as a "Good Morning and merry christmas" greeting, and take one in the evenings to sweeten my tasebuds before I go to bed as a "Good Night sweet dreams"cookie.......
Yeah, Murray, you injected a patient with a lethal drug, went to take a piss, and wonder why you are targeted??!! Gee, well, I guess you missed that class in freaking med school!! Oh, that and the CPR/First Aid class!!!!
EWWW I smell. Is that my breath or my body?
Haven't been on in almost two weeks. Real busy at work now and with Christmas.
I dont like that it is taking this long and I dont think its a good sign. Its been mentioned above that Mj fans would go nuts if Murray walks and I think they know that. I think the investigation has already been botched so bad that they cant or wont bring charges, only they are so afraid of what will happen with fans that they just keep delaying month after month hoping that it will get forgotten about. I know I keep coming back but it gets hard to keep up with this and thats what I think they are counting on happening with fans. I really hope I'm wrong but I have had this feeling for a long time now about the investigation.
I am very disgusted with this info of another delay. Its very upsetting for me.
PS..... (I found the most awesome web site to Christmas shop on if you or someone you know likes the expensive /designer stuff. Its cn sportshop dot com. I bought Ugg boots for my daughter for $68!! It has now disappeared from the google search so write down quick.)
I agree with you Cocovelvet I don't know how those people can even trust anything that quack says........I mean he didn't even know how to give cpr the right way to Michael he had him on the bed anyone knows you don't do that on a soft surface....
Coco...which part will you bite first????!!:):)
carie November 30th, 2009 8:19 pm ET
EWWW I smell. Is that my breath or my body?
NOT ME!!!!!!!! LKL!!!!
UGGS for $68!!! Awesome!!!
Someone is using my name...I hope LKL takes care of it like last night!!!
LORI and CARIE,
You know, everytime I think of this statement from Quack that he did nothing wrong, my head just starts spinning. What else sucks about him if not the stupid statement with "the troot will soon come out" ???
Anyway, I start to believe the "troot" he meant must be the very fact that we will all see him walking around free and even continuing with his life as if he actually did nothing wrong, like its happening now. Why really is that man, let alone, let free to continue fiddling with people as a "doctor" ???
murray says he was in the wrong place at the wrong time! and he is kind of right because he was pissing in the wrong place and the wrong time!
Murray can say what he wants...Michael wanted his "milk" according to Murray...no one knows if that is true...but I tend to believe that Michael did not do this to himself...if he did the security tapes from the house would prove Murray's innocence and the tape would have been turned in and the case closed against Murray but that has not happened and the tapes remain missing.
As Lori said, he would not be practicing let alone walking around in Canada. Maybe the US needs to change some laws...now, absolutely we need to change some laws!!!
Something came up and I have to go! Damn just when I started having fun!
Hope to see you all when I come back! Bye for Now!
Yeah, he was in a private home administering something he had no business administering without the proper equipment, then once his 'patient' was under, he decides it's a good time to leave him alone to take a piss and phone a friend!!!!
Bye Pat!! Be back soon!!!
CARIE,....oh! I mean Susie!!!
Tell me which post is not from you. So, you are also having a life double in the blogs ????
The first part I will bite on will be the lips ofcourse, almost what the teenyboopers call a smooch kiss probably... theeeheee !!!!! :) :)
Good point, the missing tapes!
All you old hags need to go get a reality check! Michael is not dead!
CARIE / SUSIE,
Oh!!! and I forgot to tell you which part I will bite first in case I have those gold sugar pants.....well, I will definately start with the upper part ; the waist and ....I dont want to say it. Hhhmmm !! delicious cookie !!!!
and apparently it was a long piss cause it took 2 minutes! someone should have told him: come on murray do it already!
You are absolutely right with the missing tapes. Thats one thing thats ever bothered me ever since the 25th June. Why did the tapes have to disappear if Quack did not do anything wrong coz they would be prove that he infact didn't do a damn thing wrong.
Ok I tried to post some pictures of Michael during rehersal showing up close photos of his neck proving with a doubt that there were not needle marks all over his neck. But my post was deleted before it was posted..anyway ...it also show the shirt Michael wore...the red one with the lion on it ...it was embelished with the numbers 777 on the right hand side...the numbers are not on the original shirt...I guess it is something he had done personally.
I knew that wasn't you! Later!
Were there tapes? I heard there were no tapes...that the recorder was not working??? Tohme comes to mind for this piece!!!
Actually, there is one other thing to failed to understand, and I was actually appealled to read about in that article about Quack being back to work. I remember it mentioned that he is even not banned from using propofol.
What the damn hell could Quack be allowed to continue using propofol for coz in the first place he is supposed to be a mere cardiologist, and not an anestheologist. I thought only anestheologists are allowed to use and put those IVS with propofol on patients . Or I'm I wrong ???
Sorry about the typos:
.....showing up close photos of his neck proving without a doubt that there were not needle marks all over his neck....
Thank you...that is beautiful!!!!! I am crying!! Thank you!!!
There were no tapes ???!!! I have never heard about that one....... what I remember is that right from the beggining just a few days after the incident, I think it was La toya, if I am not wrong, who said the tapes were missing and everything in the safe was gone....... MJ'S money, expensive jewellery and who knows, maybe other very crucial things like documents. Hhhmmm !!! what comes to my mind when I mention documents is the issue of a possibility of another Will probably kept there in the safe...GONE !!!!
@carie, you're welcome....I loved that.
Didn't know MJ did a song with Akon, did you? ...and such a beautiful song...
Ladies, Good Night for now....see you again tomorrow.
I'm freezing here behind my monitor....... this unpaid night shift !!!! I love it as long as its for MJ anyway..... Grrrhhh !!!!!!! Yawn !! ;)
still me just a new name
You know, we have a student at my school who is a heroin addict...cannot see any marks unless we move her skin, really look for the under her fingernails, arous her hairline/ears. Injection marks are not that easy to see, and covered with makeup, they probably would not show...NOT THAT I IN ANY WAY think Michael was abusing to that extent, quite the contrary, just some information.
Have sweet gold and red pants cookie dreams!!! Yummy!!!!
I think maybe Harvey from TMZ said no tapes, so take that for what it's worth!!!
Nite sweetness!!!! LOL!! From Susie!!!
Hello Dear Bloggers :-)
About the topic,
What are they waiting for him to kill someone else?
Please God, JUSTICIA PARA MICHAEL !!!
Justice for Michael!!!
@Lori-JFM... Hello. :-)
@Mara.. Thanks for your last msg.
@Tatiana. Amigui espero estes bien y muchas bendiciones :-)
Michael, my sweet angel :-)
God bless you..
MEXICO LOVES MJ!!
I always read these CNN MJ blogs and sometimes post on them as well. Before I posted as Chris but have discovered some bloggers are confusing me with Cris, thus the name change.
With all my heart I hope this case is being thoroughly examined – if that's what it takes to give Michael the justice that he deserves, then fine.
However, I'm concerned that time will bring apathy and a fuzziness of the facts by potential witnesses. On one hand, a conviction in this case may help to revamp the LAPD's tarnished image, but on the other hand I wonder if LAPD care enough.
It really bothers me that it took so long before the police treated Michael's residence as a potential homicide scene. In many ways, it would be great if both Canada & the US had a media freeze like, I believe in the UK, to curb/prevent lies from being published as fact.
What's with allowing Murray to be free and out & about? He admitted he wasn't watching Michael and, at the very least, he did not use a monitor – I think I read that in hospitals they use a pulse oximeter.
Dear friend i am Ok, don't know what all about Murray takes so long! Very weird!
I am casi con un pie on the plane!
If I don't talk to you antes de irme, Marry Christmas and a very happy new year
A big hug and blesses!!
Hi Carie, just getting home now and catching up. Thank you for your supportive blog. I had to nip that foolishness in the bud to protect the rectitude of this blog. This is a very serious forum topic and to read through "Hi,*** so and so *** how are you today?" reply "fine, so and so, I wet my pants youtubing last night while I ate my dinner" is just completely useless and a waste of everyone's time, including theirs. They should spend more time educating themselves rather stealing opinions from loyal bloggers and garbage from tabloid websites at a feeble attempt to post something MJ related in order to stay somewhat relevant. We should take advantage and bathe in the cognition now before this water gets dirty.
@CARIE ALSO- I see you have been duplicated as well! As you see, my name is encoded in blue for most of my posts so my doppleganger has litlte to no chance of mocking me. Of course we know each other's style of writing; no one with intelligence and loyalty could be duplicated. Perhaps the mocker needs to invest in some constructive activities like holding a terminally ill baby whose mother abandonded them or feeding the animals at their local rescue shelter. I know as soon as I read the 8:33 blog, that it was NOT your post. The mocker will get bored Carie and find another soul to torture.
I H U hags @ 2 3 0 0 TNO
You were not alone, Michael
@LYNN- Lynn, thanks for the heads up about the Uggs! I'm wearing Wuggs (wal-mart brand uggs!) lol
FALL GUY/MURDERER FOR HIRE
1. HIRE A HEART SPECIALIST WHO IS IN DIRE NEED OF MONEY TO CARRY OUT AND ACCOMPLISH THE DEADLY MISSION.
2. HAVE THE CONMAN AGREE TO TAKE LOW MONTHLY PAYMENTS WITH HUGE LIFE-CHANGING PAYOUT AFTER MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
3. START BY SYSTEMATICALLY ADMINISTERING A STEADY STREAM OF VARIOUS DRUGS INTO PATIENT’S SYSTEM FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
4. DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED QUALIFIED HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS ON HAND TO ADMINISTER POWERFUL IV ANESTHETIC PROPOFOL AND WHATEVER OTHER DRUGS ARE TO BE USED.
5. ADMINISTER THE POWERFUL IV ANESTHETIC “OUTSIDE” A HOSPITAL SETTING.
6. DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED QUALIFIED HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS VIGILANTLY AND UNITERRUPTEDLY MONITOR PATIENT WHILE POWERFUL IV ANESTHETIC IS BEING ADMINISTERED.
7. DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED MONITORING EQUIPMENT ON HAND.
8. DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED LIFE-SAVING EQUIPMENT AND MEDICATION ON HAND.
9. KEEP ROOM AT SWELTERING HOT TEMP TO ENGLARGE VEINS AND PUT HEAVY BURDEN ON PATIENT’S HEART.
10. KEEP ROOM AT SWELTERING HOT TEMP TO ERADICATE EVIDENCE, INCLUDING PROPOFOL .
11. KEEP ROOM AT SWELTERING HOT TEMP TO ENLARGE VEINS FOR EASY AND QUICK ACCESS TO CONTINUE ADMINISTERING VARIOUS IV DRUGS WHILE PATIENT IS ALREADY UNDER TO ENSURE DEADLY RESULT.
12. DELAY CALL TO 911 FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, PREFERABLY HOURS.
13. DO NOT CALL 911 BEFORE CALLING/CHECKING IN WITH VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS FOR FURTHER/NEXT STEP INSTRUCTIONS.
14. LEAVE PATIENT UNATTENDED AND GO DOWNSTAIRS TO GET/SPEAK WITH PATIENT’S MINOR CHILD FOR WHATEVER REASON.
15 .HAVE SOMEONE ELSE CALL 911, MAKING SURE IT’S SOMEONE WHO IS NOT IN ON WHAT’S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES SO AS TO AVOID ANSWERING THE OPERATOR’S QUESTIONS.
16. FAKE CPR BY CARRYING OUT THIS LIFE-SAVING PROCEDURE ON BED INSTEAD OF ON FLOOR.
17. KEEP PARAMEDICS WORKING ON THE BODY EVEN THOUGH ITS TOO LATE.
18. DEMAND THAT BODY BE SENT TO HOSPITAL TO BE PRONOUNCED DEAD
19. MAKE IT APPEAR THAT HOSPITAL IS THE ONE WHO FAILED TO REVIVE PATIENT.
20. HOSPITAL VISIT ESSENTIAL TO LEAVE CRIME SCENE OPEN.
MISSION HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AND CONMAN HEART SPECIALIST HAS CONFESSED. SO WE KNOW WHO DID IT OR DO WE?? WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE IN THAT ROOM AT THAT TIME TOO?? THE DEATH CERTIFICATE STATES THE DEADLY ACT.
THE CRUCIAL QUESTION IS:
“WHO CALLED THE SHOTS BEHIND THE SCENES?”
@Lucero– Hello. How are you doing? That must be what is happening...they are waiting for Murray to convict himself....lol :)
@Mara - where are you - we need to talk. :)
@Carrie....I think the wherabouts of the alleged security tapes is another mystery...I do no think there has been anything one way or the other to prove that they existed in the first place and if so, where they are now...story developing... Also Carrie...it was the Chief of Police who resigned at the end of October – William Bratten.
Just remember... Murray is entitled to due process. But he does certainly appear to be the person of interest...
Just saw TII again...I always hear or see something that I missed previously...love TII, though I wish we could still see Michael live.
@Dear TaTIAnA .:-)
My best wishes for you, amiguita, Dios te bendiga!!
Merry Christmas and I hope to talk with you soon. ( Before año nuevo..)
Take Care and Bendiciones. :-)
Thank you and BS free is the motto!! Gotta love the jerks of the world! Last night and apparently tonight LKL stopped the 'imposter' so HA!!!
I am so sorry I didn't get to you!!! I want to go to my aunts house and email so my husband does not read what you send!!! He gets pissed at me for all my Michael love!!! I am so glad you are here!!!
No worries. Im sure your husband will see sense in what we have to say, anyway in your own time. I cant stay long have a ton of work to do.
FOR THE POSTERS WHO BLEAT ON ABOUT MJs MESSAGE OF L.O.V.E PLEASE DO NOT FORGET HIS MESSAGE ABOUT SONY IN 2002, THE ONE WHERE HE RISKED HIS LIFE TO TELL US... REMEMBER TO BOYCOTT THE DVD ON ITS RELEASE 26TH JAN, IF YOU LOVE MJ LIKE YOU PROFESS TO THEN YOU WILL WANT TO LIVE BY HIS MESSAGE NOT TO BUY SONY!!
"We can easily see how the use of Diprivan in a home setting could go very wrong very fast. The person administering the drug (it’s nearly inconceivable for it to be self-administered) would need to be well trained in either anesthesia or critical care medicine. The patient’s medical condition would need to be well understood, in particular exactly what other drugs (and/or alcohol) the person had recently taken (including an understanding of whether the person was a frequent or infrequent user of narcotic drugs and/or alcohol). The starting dose would have to be carefully determined based on these factors. Drugs and equipment would need to be immediately available at the bedside, opened and ready to go, in case of a drop in blood pressure and/or a decrease or cessation of breathing. The unconscious person would need constant careful monitoring for the entire time that the drug was being administered."
Again, incompetent doc, or means to an end??!! This is unreal!!!
AEG/Sony are cleaning up the $$$$$!! Begs so many ?????'s!!!!
Thanks for the article. Very enlightening on just how incompotent Murray was being!!!!
@DN....I do tend to agree with you about Murray....he just does not seem to have the brains to run the operation...so if there was any kind of a conspiricy someone else had to be calling the shots. It really fries my biscuits to think that maybe this whole tragedy was a total act of incompetence...what was it AEG Randy Phillips said...something about bad luck? How insensitive.
Carrie, I am sorry, I understand your point about Sony, but I am not going to deny myself the opportunity to see TII either in the theater or on DVD. I don't think this makes me less of a fan. I am supporting the estate and Michael's children. If it turns out that Sony is involved...
Blog on everyone
Lori – Justice For Michael
Don't be sorry for anything!!! Sony will pay for the way they treated Michael in the past, and if they did have anything to do with his death, what goes around...Peace Lori!!!
I mentioned the needle marks because it was implyed that he was riddle to the point that they could be seen and no pictures shows proof of that. I would assume that a fresh needle mark would be visible. I know when I have had blood drawn...I can have a bump.. some swelling and redness in the injection sight for days. To not see anything in the neck is puzzling to me. I wish I could post the pictures but I was not able to.
'Its do or die now for Michael Jackson, if he doesnt do the shows it will be very bad, worse than it has ever been personally for him'.
'Its not about the money, its ALL about the money'
'He will be on that stage even if i have to put him over my shoulder and carry him on myself'
RANDY PHILIPS MAY 2009
Michael Jackson did not want to do the shows, was not physically or mentally able to, Randy Philips knew this because Michael had told him.
Mourning MJ 4:22pm
Thank you for voicing the opinion of many here on these blogs. This is serious. Death is final. And how anyone can dispute that Michael has passed after looking at the grief stricken face of his mother at the funeral or hear the cries of his precious daughter, is beyond me. Michael would be so embarrased that this was even being discussed. Because it is saying that Michael is deceitful. And it is so not Michael's character to do something like this. His heart wouldn't let him. You are right about the investigation. They need to be absolutely sure about everything before releasing it. Just trying to get through all the medical records and finding the right medical experts is so time consuming in itself. Much responsibility on the experts shoulders. I've done that in the past on a much smaller scale, of course. It's very time consuming and tedious.Because you are being relied on to know what you're talking about. To the defense and the prosecution.
With what they reel off about how bad MJ was with his iv addictions and his so called being riddled with injection sites you would expect bruising also, they have said for 6weeks at least so where were these welts, bruises etc... Like you said none of us can see them, but apparently they were all over... this gives us insight into what they did to him that night/morning.
Can you tell me when MJ's will was supposedly signed? Looking thru my notes , can't find it at the moment. I thought on 7/06/02. Reason for asking, I just saw pics of MJ in New York at that time and Karen Faye was with him. She may be able to verify some things pertaining to that.
I beleive it was 7/07/02
I think the pics you mean with K. Faye in New York are from 1996.
I THINK YOU OTHER POSTERS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. THE 'GOOD' DOCTOR MURRAY OUGHT TO LOSE HIS RIGHT TO EVER PARCTICE MEDICINE AGAIN PLUS SIT IN A TEN BY TEN PRISON CELL FOR A LONG LONG TIME. SO SHOULD THE OTHERS INVOLVED. SOMEONE NEEDED TO CARE FOR MJ MORE THAN THEY CARED FOR THE MONEY HE COULD MAKE THEM. IN THE END IT SEEMS LIKE THE FEW WHO MIGHT HAVE COULDN'T EVEN GET CLOSE TO HIM. I THINK THAT'S A CRIME IN OF ITSELF. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE ONES WHO ONLY CARED ABOUT THE MONEY SURROUNDED MICHAEL AND THEN FINALLY WENT FOR THE KILL.I KNOW MICHAEL WAS NOT PERFECT AND STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION. BUT THIS WAS SUCH A WASTE OF HUMAN LIFE. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE MICHAEL WAS GOD~FEARING LOVING AND CHARITABLE ETC. THANKS FOR LISTENING. I JUST HAD TO RELEASE SOME ANGER AT THIS WHOLE SITUATION. JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.
oops - sorry carrie...I was talking to DN re Sony and boycott of TII dvds..
I'll have to check my FB page again. They said 2002, unless it's a mistake.
I absolutely agree, But I only mention this girl because she had od'd and the 'marks' were not as visible as I would have thought, and she had no bruising. However, IV injections, DN, are totally different!! I had IV, and the bruising was terrible, so I have no clue how they could possibly hide those marks. Scary to think all those supposed marks were from one night...God, poor Michael. What the hell happened June 25??!!!!
I can understand why the investigation is taking so long...Not only does the investigation have to prove what drugs were used and in what amount ...also how they interact with each other and how that effects the body..to be able to do that many experts have to be called and interviewed in order to get the case together for the Grand Jury...in order to prove that Murray is responsible.. they have to prove how all this medication played out. JMO of course.
I agree 100%. some people here need serious help. they think michael is going jump out of a cake soon!
Michael is alive and well! Lets rejoice everyone!
It's always about the money....did anyone doubt this? And if you follow the money...well maybe the truth will prevail.
@Sandy-Houston - Hi!! Any Dr. Murray sightings?
Its ok i thought you meant me.. I cant dictate obviously, I would only ask anyone thinking of further buying from Sony to think of the sleepless nights this corporation inflicted on MJ, he was feared for his life and his childrens life... I can only keep spreading this message, I cant force people to listen unfortunately. The sales of dvd is a different cut to the deal that the estate received from the cinema run.. Im not sure of the details so i wont post what im not sure about... I just want to remind people because this is partly why he is dead today. No worries Lori.
RASCAL FROM USA
YOU GO RASCAL!! That's what we're here for!!
Someone mention the signing of the Will..I heard it was in 2005 and there was a problem with that because Michael was out of town at the time...so they questioned if the Will was valid.
Sandy-OMG, right?? His mother's face was the most painful thing to see!!! My heart just ached for her, she looked so heartbroken.
I appreciate and respect other's choice to buy Sony, but I am w/you!! I will not purchase anything Sony!!!
No the will is definitely that date 7/07/02
About the pics they had a full set done in 1996 in New York together, i just thought you might have meant those... He was in New York in 02 for his speech in Harlem with Al Sharpton... so maybe you have seen a pic with K. Faye, im not disputing that at all.
And where does Tohme fit into this nightmare??!!
It was stated that Murray was injecting Michael for weeks... yet the video of him trying on his costumes with the short sleeved white T...shows no bruising on his arms or neck...we have to remember Michael's skin was very light and any brusing would have been very obvious...just look at the pictures of his bruising when he was handcuffed in 2005.
Tohme is very devilish, IMHO...more devilish than TM even.
@DN – yes the will appears to have been signed on 07/07/02 in Los Angeles.
I’m trying to run as fast as I can
To escape the hunting hand
It’s slowly grabbing me
Pulling me into horror land
I think I’m there
I feel so bad
Or is it just a nightmare I have
Wake me up and take my hand
Take me into your beautiful
Tohme is pure evil, and I cannot help but wonder why Jermaine would bring such evil into Michael's life, That aside, I would love to know his 'part' in the last month of Michael's life. He too claimed he loved Michael...all these people who lovd him, yet Michael is dead??!!
I agree, and if there were many needle marks, that makes it so much harder to understand what really happened on June 25. I hope Michael didn't suffer.
Built a neverland on earth
Shared it with the ones you cared
Accusations came along
Hunting you for so long
False reports and empty claims
Held your head high all along
Proving them, they were wrong
Tohme is the one who brought him to Thomas Barack Colony Capital, who bought the note on Neverland. Tohme contacted Randy Philips along with Barack who contacted his friend Philip Anschutz AEG. Randy Philips had been after Jackson for 2yrs. This was no accident, Jermaine brought Tohme into MJs life in Vegas 07, to help him save Neverland. Jermaine has always only had Neverland on his mind. Watch out for what happens with Neverland in the next 2-4yrs.
LORI – JFM November 30th, 2009 1:58 pm ET
Sorry I did not get back with you right away earlier on the other blog. Working.
I don't know how much I can tell you. The local news stations don't report on it everyday. I'm sure they are all trying to get an interview with him. The clinic is located in an older African American area of Houston which has been revitalized. We have clinics all over Houston which is convenient for the public without having to go downtown into the Texas Medical Center. The clinic is housed in an older building. He continues to see patients.And can continue until charges are made.
The president of the Tx Medical Board wrote a response in the Houston Chronicle because of the numerous requests received regarding why CM is allowed to work, was he being investigated by the board? His response was general. Just that CM has not been charged and therefore can work. And would look at any complaints about him just as they would with any other physicians. With nothing being released until after the first of the year, CM and his attorneys will have plenty of time to try and "improve" his image in the public's eyes. But it won't work. When the charges come forth, and it won't just be him...that "image" will go out the door. Even friends of mine who have not embraced Michael the way I have in my life, are of the opinion that he was the one with the syringe in his hand and he was Michael's doctor and should have known better, but instead we have this tragic medical error. If he didn't know better he shouldn't have been Michael's physician. No other way to look at it. If I hear of any other info locally, you know I will pass it on. Thank you Lori for the "investigative" work that you do.
Denial is our alibi
To forget what’s before our eyes
The bitter truth is so loud
Put a crack in to my heart
Fix it you say
But I don’t know how
It’s getting deeper and deeper now
I believe Neverland will be turned into some shrine museum zoo theme park, w/Jermaine and his kids selling tickets!! That would make me puke!!!
Can't find them on my FB now, UGH! I do remember the one pic, MJ had one leg over a balcony and leaning over signing a poster for a fan and Karen and another man is holding on to MJ so he doesn't fall. The look on the man's face was like OMG! The sign concerned Sony. These were pictures I had never seen before of him in New York when he gave that Sony speech.
I guess my reason for asking about the will, was whether she could be instrumental in any way to verify if will was fake or real since she was him on this trip.
But DAMN!! No body of Michael, so ticket prices wont be as steep!!!
Jermaine is also the one who brought Leonard Muhammed into MJs life during 05 the trial, as his chief bodyguard... Randy Jackson agreed to let L. Muhammed bring in his own security detail for MJ... NOI. L. Muhammed was robbing MJ by living in a bungalow in the Beverly Hills Hotel during this time and was charging thousands more a week to MJs account than it really cost... Randy Jackson was over MJs finances during this time.
I understand that if Michael signed the will, whether in LA or NY, it is valid. As long as he agreed to the contents (debatable) it should be valid??
Is that the bodyguard Michael fired due to stealing?? Nice brothers!!!
Yes that was definitely 2002 then... it was on that very same trip that his will was supposed to have been drawn up. Even though they stated on the will that it was signed in LA. Yes he spoke about racism in the record industry and Sony.
Larger than life itself he was
Had a bigger heart than all of us
So much passion
So much glare
Will be silent in the New Year
You mean Big E the one who has been exposed for trying to sell MJs silk mask??? He was brought in 3months ago with others (strange) as part of rehiring of security detail, he is also from the NOI and is also friends with Jermaine. Leonard Muhammed has never left even though MJ has tried to get rid of him... He has a past in Chicago of money laundering, fraud, stealing from single parents with young families to support, etc. He is also friends with Jermaine. He is also the son in law of Louis Farakham the head of NOI... you know the one who is behind the murder of Malcom X and many others ... although this has never been proved. He is deadly. These were the fence around MJ.
@ Carie November 30th, 2009 8:16 pm ET
"My biggest fear is the defense will go for the jugular while exposing all the past substance abuse...and Murray will walk w/a slap on the butt. He will be portrayed as the doctor who really wanted to help Michael...to 'wean him off the propofol' and to help his 'friend.' "
Carie, this is a fear of mine also. Because I've worked in the medical field for many years, I know how things can be manipulated to make lies seem like the truth where some physicians are concerned. CM is not the only physician of Michael's to be involved in this horrible tragedy but he was the last one to see him alive. I'm sure the defense will go for the jugular but sooner or later the blood in that jugular will run out and we will still have the result – Michael with the breath of life literally taken away from him in an instant.
I'm off for now. Thanks to all the informative bloggers who remain. Don't give up!
One more thing about the article I posted...if and when all this comes to trail...I hope they find an expert like this Dr. to explain propofol and all its effects.
@Sandy-Houston....even I know that propofol is contra-indicated for use in the home. I mean...Sha'mon!
A million tears later
I am still trying to hold it together
My voice trembles as I try to say
Remember you forever and ever and a day
I’ll let you go and I’ll let you be
I’ll make peace with reality
I know it sucks
And I know it hurts
But denial is not the best advice
All security was hired by Tohme even though he says he fired people when he first took over MJs business arrangements in 07, 'to get rid of muslims', even though he is affiliated with NOI himself... He only kept Alberto Alvarez and another member of security, he hired these two a year earlier himself. Leonard Muhammed has always remained head of security, he is the one you see a lot on pics with MJ, he is friendly with Joe also and the casino posse at the Palms in vegas where Joe and Randy hang out.
I just received my copy of Entertainment Weekly and was just looking at it. Cover of magazine is on the Late Greats 2009. Has a small article on Michael with quotes from Kenny Ortega. At the end of the article it says in italics the "Jackson died of cardiac arrest in L.A."
Interesting, I thought he died of acute propofol intoxication according to the coroners report. Why not report it correctly?
Thanks to you Sandy!!! Take care!!
No, there was another BG that he had fired that testified during the 2005 trial.
Sandy, thank you so much for keeping us up-to-date on Conrad Murray there in Houston. I can't imagine anyone is banging down his door for medical treatment, however, there are still a handful of Conrad supporters (for whatever reason!) who will continue to place their precious life in the hands of this imbicile. I'm not quite sure or clear of the laws in regards to practicing medicine when the wreckless death of another falls in the hands of the person of interest (oh, that's just politically correct for "suspect"), however, I would think that it would make sense that they would revoke all rights and privileges to "practice" medicine until this suspect's name is cleared. It's no different than a police officer being accused of police brutality or a teacher being accused of "inappropriate behavior". I would think that the laws of "common sense" would take precedense when a life is lost, never to be recovered until the investigation is concluded. But that's the good ole' USA for you- everything must be politically correct so we don't "step on and hurt anyone's little feelings"- yeah, you know, like accusing someone of wreckless homicide.
Regarding your earlier post; yes, Katherine Jackson's face was certainly not painted with phoney tears. That was very real grief that overwhelmed her once beaming smile when she looked over at her darling Michael. Anyone who challenges this, is challenging the position of a Power much higher than us.....Thank you for the beautiful and informative posts, Sandy. Michael loves your loyality.
You were not alone Michael
Michael Jackson was led to his death for greed and certain members of his family have blood on their hands, yet they SMILE.
catch you soon i have to go, take care of the bump :)
I feel your pain, that heaviness in your heart. Thanks again for relating.
Everyone nite, lets get justice for our beloved Michael, dont let the bast**ds get away with it... It doesnt start and end with Murray. Speak soon.
My God!! If all this was going on, it wasn't just about Michael's money since he had no liquid cash, it has to be about the catalog!!! And if it IS about the catalog, then AEG/Sony are responsible!!! Connected the dots!!!
What about justice
What about revenge
What about judging the accuser for a change
what about screaming
what about your life
All seems so distant and lost
And it appears Jermaine and Randy J. were on the payroll from both sides!! Good God!! Poor Michael!! He should have dumped that catalog and run!!!
THANK YOU!!! And I hope you continue to share all your views as they help me to grasp/make sense out of why this ever happened!!!
I think that the Secret Service definitely messed up however the couple knew they were not invited and I think were trying to do a publicity stunt which failed when they could not be seated. Either one of them could have had a vial of a dangerous medication like Antrax on their person and injected either the president or vice-president and made them deathly ill. National Security is not a joke. They should have charges against them for their actions
Sorry i just seen yr post as i was leaving, no that was not Leonard Muhammed in 05 that he fired. Sorry... nite.
.. Im fine. Thanks.. In this moment (in mexico) , Im watching a tv program about our Michael in E! .. The Last Days of Michael Jackson..
Im so sad :-)
Take Care and bendiciones (blessings) :-D
What do the people of your country think about all the Murray stuff??
MJ filed a federal lawsuit in 07 against Randy Jackson and a friend of Randys who was a 'financial advisor' , Randy had brought him in to try and sort out MJs finances, as Randy had appointed himself 'advisor' to MJ. The lawsuit claimed that Randy and his friend had tried to swindle a fortune during his trial.
That's is pathetic! Brotherly love!!! Chaching!!
Just before i go, i keep seein posts from you that iv not responded to, haha.. After MJs death Colony Capital tried to buy the MJs share in the catalogue from the estate... there was also two other who also tried to put in an offer... they was all refused. But what will happen in a few years when dust has settled and people start to forget... I wont forget ever.
Sony/AEG are a marriage!!
It has been long in coming. I think that the investigation needs to be carefully looked, at that when it goes to trail everything will be in place that Dr Murray will certainly have his day in court. ( i hate calling him a doctor) Justice will be finally come for Michael – lets us pray that the evidence given would put Dr. Murray in jail forever. I LOVE YOU MICHAEL
Larry thanks again for this new blog – LOVE YOU Larry GOD BLESS YOU
Had a dream about you
A little obscure
Reaching your hand
Hoping you’d look
Called your name
I said Michael
You slowly walked away
And did not look
Back to the stars you had to go
For you are now their real glows
@Marguerite...thank you for the link. I will investigate it some time. However, I do not consider blog postings to be anything other than heresay evidence...anyone can say anything on a blog... :)
JUSTICE should be done, take MURRAY to jail before all and punish him
life sentences, to take Michael life from all of us. What he did was nothing to be excused, he is very stupid and ugly doctor, who has no rigth to have been free or working during this time, while Michael died by his dirty hands
and faults. We love you Michael and always. Thanks Larry, we love U2.
Lori– You are very welcome. But I can guarentee everything you read on this site will make you stop and go WTH or WTF. Most certainly an eye opener. Let me know what you think after you read it.
The court hearings keep get pushed back for one reason and that is Michael is alive. It is kind of hard to charge someone for murder when the person is very much alive. If Michael had actually died oin June 25th Murray would of been thrown in jail and he would still be there.
"For those that believe no proof is necessary. For those that don't no proof is possible." by Stuart Chase
"It's no wonder that truth is stranger than finction. Fiction has to make sense." by Mark Twain
This is for all you Michael Jackson fans. I just found a wonderful interview about MJ after his death. Just google The Tavis Smiley Show and watch his interviews with Cornel West and another interview with Barry Gordy. Both interviews discuss MJ's genius, creativity and the impact he had on music, breaking down racial barriers. Colin West speaks soo eloquently of Michael–his amazing talents, etc. You must see this.Make sure to go the link where they show James Ingram imitating MJ when he first sang PYT (James' song) for James. Very funny and touching.
Haven't seen you around in a while, I hope you are doing well. Thank you for posting the site- I did click on it and saved it so I could explore all of it when the timing is more ideal. I must say I enjoyed the pictures! The picture of Michael that he is standing next to Branca is quite handsome- didn't he look so happy there? I will read the archive articles like you suggested. However, I'm afraid that I will not be pursuaded to believe MJ is alive (although I would very much like him to be) because Michael is not capable of designing a deceitful plot agains the world or his family. And frankly, he just simply does not have the power to do it (but no one does, not even our Michael). Thank you for your post, Marguerite. I see that both you and I have grown together and have learned that we can speak and treat each other in the way that Michael would have wanted us to. No matter what side of the fence we stand on. I just believe that Michael now has the view from both sides. From above. But I will give you my word that I will explore this site more and give you feedback when I have dedicated enough time to draw a proper opinion. Thank you Marguerite!
You were not alone, Michael
I checked out the site...I do like this quote fro Dr. Firpo Carr
"The bottom line is this:
Some things are better left unsaid.
Some efforts better left abandoned.
Some mysteries better left unsolved.
Even with having said all this,
there may well be explosive,
even monumental developments on the horizon.
The message I'll leave you with is this,
Michael Jackson was one of the most loving,
generous souls to ever enter our consciousness.
He was a beautiful man. And, without a doubt,
he deserved far better than what he got.
That's the tragedy of it all.
But, not to worry, God sees all.
Any wrong done will be righted in God's own inimitable way.
And as for Michael's magnanimous actions, well, he can now
rest from all his labors of love. And we can rest assured
that he will be rewarded for all the wonderful works he has done."
(Rev. 14:13) Peace and blessings. Amen.
I haven't see anything disputing his death, but will look again...thank you.
You can't charge someone for something that never happened.
Michael is not dead.
I can't wait until everything is out in the open.
But I will sit and wait and be patient.
Was Michael Jackson Autistic?
Doctor Claims Autism Explains Jackson’s Genius & Poor Social Skills Jason Edmonds
Michael Jackson's undisputed talent is discussed alongside reports of his limited social interaction. Could Autism be the reason behind both?
Following his unexpected death on June 25th 2009 at age 50, the world has marvelled at the genius of Michael Jackson and wondered at his lonely personal life. One doctor believes his unusual expertise and hindering social difficulties was due to Autism.
The doctor, who wished to remain anonymous, was called to Jackson’s Las Vegas hotel in 2003 for an unrelated query, but whilst there noticed “the singer displayed classic signs of autism, the brain development disorder of which symptoms include poor social interaction and communication, abnormal intensity or focus, severe insomnia and unusual eating habits.”
Various reports about Jackson’s life seem to corroborate the fact that he might have either being mildly autistic or an Autistic Savant: a person with developmental disorders but achieving one area of brilliance or expertise.
Poor Social Interaction and Communication
Sufferers of Autism are said to be “high functioning individuals who may have active but distinctly odd social approaches.” It’s common knowledge that Jackson seemed uncomfortable interacting with others. He rarely did any interviews and except when reading from a script, rarely said more than a few words when accepting awards.
“[Jackson had] two personalities” said Motown Records founder Berry Gordy speaking at his former artists’ memorial. “Offstage he was shy, soft spoken and childlike, but when he took the stage in front of his screaming fans, he turned into another person; a master, a take-no-prisoner showman.”
Throughout his adulthood, Jackson preferred to be in the company of children. From his arrival at the 1984 Grammy’s carrying 12 year old Emmanuel Lewis as his guest, to his friendships with Macaulay Culkin, Jackson was regularly seen with children and invited them for sleepovers in his house where they watched Disney movies and played computer games.
There’s a misconception that those with autism prefer to be alone; they don’t, but they find forming friendships difficult. This is true with Jackson, who once told a friend “Even at home, I'm lonely. I sit in my room and sometimes cry. It is so hard to make friends, and there are some things you can't talk to your parents or family about. I sometimes walk around the neighborhood at night, just hoping to find someone to talk to." (“Michael Jackson’s Alleged Addictions: Experts Weigh In”, MTV News, July 2, 2009)
Jackson’s unusual friendships and odd social decisions (like covering his children’s faces in public) could be a symptom of autism.
Abnormal Intensity and Focus
Another sign of Autism is the sufferer’s high levels of intense focus: “Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features” Again, this is consistent with early reports of Jackson as a child studying musician James Brown for hours and then copying his moves.
Vincent Paterson, who directed some of his music famous videos recalls watching Jackson “rehearse a dance sequence for four hours in front of a mirror until it felt like second nature. That’s how he developed the moonwalk, working on it for days if not weeks until it was organic. He took an idea that he had seen some street kids do and perfected it.”
Jackson’s ability to hone into a single dance routine or musical idea and focus on it for long periods enabled him to become the best, but it could also have been a symptom of a high-performing type of autism.
Sufferers also tend to have high levels of imagination and an obsessive single interest. Bill Gates, who was passionate about computers from an early age was said to be autistic, as was the great painter Michelangelo whose intense focus enabled him to paint the Sistine Chapel.
Steven Wiltshire from England can look at any city from above once then draw panoramically accurate aerial pictures of what he’s seen, and Daniel Tammet can recite Pi from memory to 22,514 digits. Both are Autistic Savants, so could Jackson have been a savant too, able to mask any social disabilities behind his musical genius?
Unusual Eating Habits and Severe Insomnia
According to experts, those with autism sometimes have unusual eating habits and will only eat certain foods. Jackson was a vegan, and his brother Tito confirmed that he mostly ate vegetables, and that he once became addicted to carrots and ate so many his hands turned a little orange.
Autistic people also suffer from Insomnia, and Jackson’s inability to sleep was revealed after his death: “Michael Jackson was so distraught over persistent insomnia in recent months that he pleaded for a powerful sedative despite warnings it could be harmful, says a nutritionist who was working with the singer…” (“Michael Jackson was so Distraught over Insomnia that he Begged for Powerful Drug”, Huffington Post, June 30, 2009)
Perhaps Jackson’s musical magic was simply due to 45 years of working in the industry with the best and having his talent honed by his disciplinarian father and the perfectionists at Motown Records, or it could have been due to Autism.
@Ozzie - neither can I. No matter what the outcome is.
I said this several blogs ago!! I was wondering because my nephew has autism!! I had heard that his brother Marlon said Michael was diagnosed w/skisophrenia at an early age, but that I don't believe...but Asbergers...I really think some form of PDD/Autism Spectrum disorder.
THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!
"the brain development disorder of which symptoms include poor social interaction and communication, abnormal intensity or focus, severe insomnia and unusual eating habits.”
That is my Jimmy!! And Jim loves to tap...is obsessed with tap-he is in his element tapping, but making friends, socializing, sleeping issues, eating properly...that is him!!
I know Michael had the disorder!
MourningMJ- You are very welcome.!!! I am doing well and you? Please do read them, there are some very eye opening articles stating why and from whom Michael is hiding from. All I know if I had these men and people gunning for me I would run for the hills and stay there until they were caught or at least straightened out. As I said very eye opening and some will almost chill your blood and make you feel ill to your stomach. What Michael was up against was not a pretty picture. All I can pray is he is safe and with his children that he loves more than anything, who also love him. They deserve to have their dad with thejm safe and sound.
Carie– Thank for checking out the site!!!! That is quite a quote and it does make you stop and think doesn't it?
Yes it does, and so ellegantly put. I will TRY and keep an open mind and check out the site again!! I hope you are right, unfortunately my heart says no.
Ozzie- Very true!!!!
@Anne - I remember reading that article earlier...must have been in the summer. Thanks for reposting it. Michael spent so much of his time in the company of medical professionals though...one would think they would have noticed and diagnosed him if so. Also, I have never heard that Bill Gates of Microsoft was autistic.
@Carie and Anne
Michael is not autistic. You should not label others without having concrete evidence and a proper diagnosis from a medical professional.
Are you discussing the site you posted last evening? If so, that is very interesting reading I must say.
LOVE & PEACE
LET'S SPREAD OUR L.O.V.E TOGETHER
got to go, bye for now
Bill Gates has Asbergers. Einstein had Autism. It really makes perfect sense, and no, he would not have been diagnosed because of the life style he lived...it was hidden because he was always performing, and on stage was where he would appear 'normal.' During his 'down time' his reclusive behaviors could be attributed to his need for space, alone time. The insomnia is a huge indicator, but again, he was working since age 5, so no one would see, and his lack of sleep attributed to adrenalin, or passion. My opinion...
Death of me...
WTF!!! No one is labeling anyone!!! We were agreeing with a medival professional!! AND IT IS MY OPINION!!!
I was agreeing, and 'medical'..typo.
Letta– yes that site i posted last night. It had some very eye opening articles in it, didn't it?
Carie-- It is like I also said above if michael was dead then Murray would of been rotting in jail way back in June and would still be there now.
@ carrie that article is based on information from "The doctor, who wished to remain anonymous, was called to Jackson’s Las Vegas hotel in 2003 for an unrelated query," ...it could be absolutely ANYBODY and not even a doctor. An unamed source is an unverifiable source...IMHO of course. I would never take the word of anyone who is not willing to go on the record until they are on the record.
Albert Einstein did not have Asbergers. He was bipolar. There's a big difference.
WRONG!! My nephews DOCTOR told him Gates and Einsteen!! Not bipolar. And I am aware of the difference...my brother was bipolar and committed suicied.
@Lori-Justice For Michael
You are absolutely right. We have no idea who this "doctor " is. Could be any person off the street. Why is he an unamed source? Did he not want his name to be known?
My God!! I am just saying I had thought the same thing...I did not say Michael Jackson has Autism!! I was just relating him to someone I love, comparing, and stating MY OPINION!! I am entitled to my opinions!!!
I have studied everything Einstein since I was a child. Many psychiatrists,therapists,and psychologists have strongly suggested that he was indeed manic-depressive)bipolar. That's also my belief.
There is no need to get angry or be hostile. We are both adults here.
Shame on you for generating thinking with a post!!! And shame on me for having my opinion!!
Hello and thanks for your comment about my name.
In Mexico, all people (not only MJ'S fans) think Dr. Murray is RESPONSABLE , because he made too many mistakes.
He should have never given the propofol!.
I'm so sad for Michael who trusted this doctor. :-(
* Justice for Michael and his beautiful children *
You are rude with your posts and I am giving it back in the same tone. As for your belief, good for you...facts are what you seem to be looking for, but okay then.
Stop acting like a child. Everytime I read your posts you are always ranting and waving. Geez
Yes it truely does.
Thank you for your response. It is cool to know what people all over the world are thinking/wondering about all this. I agree...it is sad that he trusted the wrong people. Thank you again!!
I was not rude in any way. I was only saying that we should not assume things and give labels based on a silly article. That's all.
Jackson's prior drug use has nothing to do with his death. He died of acute propofol poisoning. According to the "leaked" autopsy results none of the pain killer drugs we have heard about him abusing for so long were in his system. Also according to the “leaked" autopsy results his liver and kidney were healthy and normal. Demerol, which is the main drug we hear about him abusing, causes liver and kidney damage with long term abuse. By the way, the leaked autopsy results came from the office of one of the outside doctors that was/is reviewing the autopsy records for LAPD. This should be simple, so I wonder if they are investigating something or someone else.
whoooooah..!!!! ...... whats going on, their are all sorts of stories out their about Michael, it doesn't mean you have to beLIEve each & everything , draw the line between what real & what is just some Lame tabloid stories, Michael always saying don't make it FACTUAL just because it written in paper, if haven't learn anything from what Michael was trying to tell his fans all these years then what is point discussing !!!!
Michael autistic??????????????? LMAO.....Michael was just fine until the media ripped his heart and soul out and he met the Chandlers and Averos.
Amen!!! Just because something is written in an article,newspaper,or in a book does not make it factual.
I wonder how long I would have to go to college to become a professional "SOURCE". They must make alot of money because there sure are alot of them. :D
Wow thanks for this post... obv we dont have a firm diagnosis, but as myself and Carie were discussing a few blogs ago, the similarities in our personal cases are astounding. As i said to Carie i have suspected this for a few years now.
Annes post :)
Yes as posted on the blog we discussed this on i mentioned Bill Gates and also Tim Burton the director, as told to us by my sons medical professionals... I was also told as i posted that they excel in their given talent... because it becomes an all encompassing interest to them, as your nephew with his tap.. My son is all about the arts, whether it be writing lyrics, poetry, drawing, but his big passion is film. Anyway we know what we know thats all that matters Carie, and we are truly blessed.
what it comes down to is weeding out the crap to get to the fact.
Oh the bloggys off again.... so im gonna make that quick exit again!!
And there is nothing 'wrong' or 'abnormal' about autism, if more people was autistic on a high functioning gifted scale then the world would be truly a better place. So for those who look at it as a negative to MJ then shame on you... you really havnt thought to understand him the man and not what he is about.
I would not set myself free until justice served for michael!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I honestly don't think Michael is autistic. He's just eccentric. He's a gem, unlike anything or anyone we've ever experienced before.
Why can't we just allow each other to be who and what they are instead of trying to make a person be sick because they are different from what we are.
If everyone was exactly the same this world would be boringggggggg!!!
Good Night Bloggers. Have a beautiful night. Not feeling that well need to rest. Will see some tomorrow. Be Bless everyone.
What has been going on... I feel such a negative energy... I don't understand why people get mad over others opinions... It's their opinion, so just leave it at that. If you don't agree with it, move on.... As long as opinions are not hurting others, then what is the problem....
Exactly. We are all different and that is they way it is suppose to be.
Good night Marguerite
Night Letta and sweet dreams.
I think if you are close to someone with Autism you are in a good position to see the symptons in others.Many people do go undiagnosed because not all medical professionals have experience in the condition.
@Toni! long time no see (*waving madly at Toni) Such a busy time of year and here I am blogging... and going to the movies to watch TII.
@ DN and Carrie.... like I said earlier you are entitled to your own opinions. For myself, I choose not to accept unverified sources as fact. A diagnosis of Ansperger's or autism or any other diagnosis is at this point unsubstantiated...and will probably always be unless someone chooses to release MJ's entire medical history....Michael lived his whole life with everyone speculating about everything...I am going to try and limit myself to speculating about what happened on 25 June and the subsequent investigations and consequences.
Anyway carry on...I enjoy reading your thoughts :)
Hi there Lori :) How many times have you seen TII anyway? :) I would have to drive a long way to see it a second time. :( Ive heard that there are 3 different versions being shown.
IMHO...i'm not surprised at all that every person could have different opinion on a given situation..the world will be all bored to death if that's the case..everything is debatable and the outcome depends on the practical proof presented not just from a speculative statement issued from a source with no name.
In carie's case(although i can't agree on some of her views sometimes) she was not stating or did not state that mj was diagnosed autism she was just simply saying that MJ MIGHT HAD not HE HAD this disorder base on observations between MJ and her nephew..i think we have to read the statement well and carefully with the whole context before reacting..
as i said IMHO
Good Night Everyone, I wish you all to have Sweet Dreams and Peaceful Night Sleep.
With Much love
Thank you for your interesting article!!!!
If its true,that Michael is dead,and Murray killed hem with prop,in any other country he would be in jail long time ago.Now or realy Michael is alive,or the LAPD dooing something very wrong,couse its how Mariau said,its that obvious,that Murray is guilty,how the Pop is catolik.
as for your request to post on our thoughts regarding that link you gave, here is my view:
after reading this nothing has changed, it never shake my belief that MJ is gone. no offense but i LOL on some point on one of the videos, i found it ridiculously astonishing but technically pretty well done video..i could not see any single point that could convinced me rather i see he was not fully aware from the beginning of the danger he was going to face soon but when he finally realized, it was already too late, the schemers and the plotters got him in that 4 corner room of his and now no more turning back. I understand that in your point of view, they were talking about conspiracy theory, you are convinced that there are people helping him to get away of that danger and that he's hiding away somewhere and he will be back as soon as all the offenders served what was right for them or others may say he would not come back anymore so he could enjoy the freedom, simple life he is getting right now but for me if there is really conspiracies involved does not applied here the way you see it..it's the other way around. The people after him with whatever reason got him and killed him and unfortunately you will find him inside of one of the crypt at forest lawn cemetery.....i hate to think that he is dead but it's the reality
we can agree or disagree but one thing is for sure we both/all love/loved MJ and PEACE for that
sorry for the grammars though..english is not my mother tongue i wish i could elaborate my thoughts better
Anne–again thank you for posting something that not only makes logical sense, but generates thinking about a provacative topic. And this article has examples of the characteristices of autism, credible plausible proof.
And I am entitled to my opinion:):)
DN–I could not remember who the person was I had blogged w/regarding the autism topic..my apologies!! And there is absolutely nothing wrong w/having autism. Anne's article contains logical information, unlike the hoax theorists who have no logical creditable proof.
Again, entitled to my opinion:):)
Off for the day...last night was a marathon online shopping spree!! Maybe 'see' you later!! Peace!
Here are some theories they can all be real...
Michael Jackson did not die he finally received a call back from E.T. and they went home together(Close encounters of the 4th kind).
Michael Jackson isn't dead he actually faked his death in order to fulfill his life long dream of being a Puerto Rican Woman, and now lives in somewhere in San Juan.
The Elephant Man's curse came close to catching up to him for harboring his remains so he reluctantly teamed up with Elvis Presley and Aqua man in order to escape thus resulting in his fake death.
Michael Jackson did not die (he is the freaking Moon Walker) what everyone saw was just his stunt double.
So many theories so little time to accurately ponder and single out our favorite.
In which manner can we best utilize our emotional energies? With so many people needing our aid, people that are beyond doubt deserving of all this time and energy, people that could probably be living next door, eagerly waiting for some company a smile a gesture of kindness, maybe some support... Nah what am I saying to hell with them, they aren't a 50 year old black man with issues, hit albums and a moon walk.... or are they? Tum Tum Tuuuuuuuuum!!!
Good Morning all.... Has anyone heard or no whether TT will still be on Larry King this week???
I don't believe MJ had autism. I have been around many who had it.
Thanks for repeating the list of observations. We need answers, will TT provide any?
Ok, I have obviously missed something here. Is someone claiming that Michael Jackson had autism?
Autistic??? Not likely. Artistic-definitely.
I think Dr. Murray returning to work is outrageous, but I believe this was to cause people to complain enough, sort of an experiment to see how many fans and real professional doctors would get up in arms with this info. I don't think it was meant to be a permanent practice. The real doctors are furious for many reasons, and this will hold more weight when/if they phone or write the people to get murray's licence revoked. If there is enough cry for justice hopefully the write thing will be done. I keep thinking about the drama/controversy with hiring diane diamond, but thats why they did this.
As for the investigation taking soo long, this might be good news–they are being careful and making sure all ppl are punished. I never believed michael was a drug addict, but surely they are trying to spin in that way.
still me just a new name
LOL.I can't imagin Cheryl Cole and Simon Cowell as legends ever!
The autism article was interesting; however I still believe that Michael was an artistic genius who happened to be shy. And of course, his life experiences shaped his world in a way that we can only attempt to understand. A non-existent childhood and mammouth, unrelenting fame mixed together with strong (and sometimes conflicting) religious beliefs, a cold father, evil trash media and evil leeches and parasites. There are probably a few other elements that I have left out...
Perhaps I simply know too little about autism but I feel that Michael had such an intense love for the world/nature/mankind that I don't associate with autism.
It seems that the 'sources' are back again and they aren't saying much this time around either.
For instance, the first report was that there would be an arrest in early 2010 – you can't predict when an arrest will be made. This reminded me of when they announced when the raids were going to happen.
And Murray isn't the one they are talking about. All Murray did was be in the care of Michael for aproximately 6 weeks – this is not what is going down with this investigation.
Doesn't this sound like the Anna Nicole Smith case in some ways? Maybe the law enforcement folks should talk to the ones involved with that case for some help.
If I'm right in my belief there will be arrests made but not like everyone thinks.
But who knows, nothing is as it seems when it comes to what has happened (or not happened) since June 24th. Yes, June 24th.
Love you Michael!!
@ Kim from MN December 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET
Why did you say June 24th? I've been reading this blogs since the beginning and June 24th has been mentioned quite a few times. I'm just curious. Thanks.
It's sad to read that Jermaine, Randy and Joe did not have Michael's interest at heart and care only for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$..
I hope Katherine will do everything in her power to stop Neverland from becoming the MJ museum which fans would like to have. Any place but that! It brought about the 2005 trial, brought Michael much distress and turned many in the US against him. To this day, you can read the haters going to every site and youtube video to sprout their hatred.
To prevent Jermaine from doing it ever, she should use the 40% Michael left her and build a MJ museum during her lifetime.
Hope everyone moved here. This will go faster until we get a new blog.
Did you make the move?
I´m here now !
I did not want to go post on the blog about the children. Wish the media would just please leave them alone. How are you my friend?
So, what´s up for today ?
Here it´s raining cats & dogs :-(
Light rain here, however, I think it's a little mixture this morning. Expecting the white fluffy stuff on Wednesday...brrrrr...
The same here, let em be.
Everything is fine, playing cd´s,
singing and doing some laundry.
Not so exciting :-)
NOW WERE TALKING THIS I KNOW
THIS BLOG HAS A BETTER FLOW
@ True- To – You
Glad you made the move.
More room for your words to flow
more ways to spread the L.O.V.E we know
It´s been raining here for 3 w soon :-(
Really boring, and it gets so dirty after the dog.
I´m so lucky to have white floors...pua
Yes, I haven't slept at all, so this day should be fun for me.
I have, for once, it was very uplifting :-)
Normally I don´t sleep well :-(
I haven´t for a long time, rather exhausting.
You have one of these day, uh I know them very well.
THANK YOU YOUR WORDS ARE KIND
TRUE BELIEVERS I ALWAYS FIND
I DO NOT ALWAYS SPEAK IN RHYME
IT ONLY HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME
@ True to you
I understand about the rhyme, sometimes it happens to me as well.
We shouldn't be divided though, the fans, we should be united. He is a wonderful person, so kind and compassionate, a great example for all.
THE GOLD PANTS THEY WERE COOL
THE THOUGHT OF THEM MAKE ME DROOL
BUT LIKE I SAID DONT BE MAD
FOR ME HE STOLE MY HEART WTH BAD
@True to you
Hello my friend i welcome you im mj how do you do
I find a rhyme says so much even when your out of touch
it helps to keep your spirit bright it shows the way a guideing light
so happy blogging from me to you and maybe we could party to
MJ YOU ROCK MY SOCKS
ALL YOU NEED IS L.O.V.E
L.O.V.E LAUGH SMILE
THAT SOUNDS GOOD FOR I AM NEAR
JUST CALL MY NAME AND ILL BE HERE
BUT LIKE I SAID THE OTHER TIME
I DO NOT ALWAYS SPEAK IN RHYME
@true to you
ok my friend lets stop this rhyme
and keep it for another time
MJ YOU ROCK MY SOCKS
ALL YOU NEED IS L.O.V.E.
L.O.V.E LAUGH SMILE
hello my friend youmad me sad yesterday with your poems , i just had to spread some joy
You are a breath of fresh air
On this blog all clogged with hate
Your words they touch
they mean so much
I think your f***** great
where did every one go
I dont know lol
@ TRUE -TO-YOU
I´m still here, hi :-)
Hello hun glad your still here
I am, hon,
just a little quiet today.
Thats ok me to :)
hello my friend its 21,did i scare them away,
I am here, but must get kiddos off to school.
HI HUN OK IM WAITING FOR MINE TO COME BACK FROM SCHOOL LOL
LOL, no,I don´t think you scared them away,
it´s usually my job to do that :-)
But I have to catch my breath a bit today :-)
Not a chance you are a smile
400+200+80+50+30+9+3+4+1 = 777
I MUST SAY I HAD FUN
NOW I HAVE TO RUN
do not cry i shall return thank you my friends i hope i brightened your day
LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RHYMES
HURRY BACK I WILL KEEP YOUR WORDS
IN MY NAPSACK
and then I probably scared you away :-)
I´m really good at this :-)
Hey guys.. maybe this isnt the best blog to be on...
I will play seek and find and post on the old one...
I ws thinking same thing, meet us back on the othe blog when you find one.
@THIS IS IT
THIS IS IT YOURE VERY GOOD
I THINK YOU ROCK THIS NEIGHBOUR HOOD
Those posts are from this morning.
Oh are they ok im willing to stay here, Mary has jsut posted that me and Gene shouldnt post our theories on the blog cause we may not be safe... i dont get it.
Is anyone here??? I got 'inpostered' first post on new blog!!!! They really love me!!!
@Mama-se, mama-sa, ma-ma-coo-sa
i think Dr. Murray is not a murderer, he must wait
@UNCLE DOO DOO
UNCLE DOO DOO HOW ARE YOU
I NO YOUR WORDS ARE VERY TRUE
i'm fine , thank
foremost excuse my english is very very bad
Dr. Murray is an element,I do not see what the dr wins with Mike's death, he was asked a hoax , he doing.
it's just my thought
@UNCLE DOO DOO
TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ THIS RHYME
I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE KING
AND NO ONE DAY WILL HEAR HIM SING
FOR A WHILE HE HAD TO REST
THE KING OF POP IS STILL THE BEST
@UNCLE DOO DOO
I BELIEVE IN WHAT I KNOW
AND I BELIEVE HE DID NOT GO
BUT IM NOT HERE WEEPING
AND THATS A FACT
FOR MICHAEL JACKSON
WILL COME BACK
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