October 3, 2009

Jackson Doc had Propofol sent to girlfriend's house

Posted: 03:13 AM ET

art.conrad.murray.undatedLaw enforcement sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray had a Las Vegas pharmacy send a steady supply of Propofol to his girlfriend's Santa Monica apartment - the apartment where he was living.

Our sources tell us Dr. Murray had Applied Pharmacy send Propofol by Fed Ex to the address of Nicole Alvarez, the mother of the doctor's 7th child.

We've also confirmed with our law enforcement sources in the weeks preceding Jackson's death Dr. Murray was living at Alverez's home during the days ... and only went to Jackson's home at night when he administered drugs to the singer.

Filed under: Larry King Live • Michael Jackson

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trarnia   October 3rd, 2009 3:20 am ET

Who cares who he had sex with. Would you like YOUR sexual relationships out for all of the world to see? Leave the guy alone!

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 3:29 am ET

trarnia – Are you taking about Letterman because if you are this is the wrong blog.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:31 am ET

So now we are hearing that stripper pole woman was involved!! Where is Gene. 🙂


Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 3:32 am ET

I am confused is propofol used one syringe at a time or is it administered by a iv drip.

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 3:32 am ET

Again, it's TMZ as usual.

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 3:33 am ET

I agree with cris

TMZ again!

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:34 am ET

Well then Stripper Pole woman should go to jail also. But then again she refused to talk with police. Probably because they had no dollar bills with them. Stripper Hag.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:35 am ET

I want to know how the girlfriend and Alveraz the 911 caller are related. Was this an all in the family murder or what? Next we'll hear all of Murrays 15 kids are in on it too.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:36 am ET

why one earth would the media help Micahel with this farce–The media did evrything in itspower to destroy him. As far as the LAPD we all know that they hated Michael–Why would they go along with this?

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 3:36 am ET

@Maria G-It's an IV drip.

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 3:38 am ET


i know you didn't ask me, but...
they would help him, for the same reason they destroy him..


Of course not all the media is in it, but i think a few and it's enough.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:39 am ET

Maybe Stripper Pole Woman confused the IV stand for her stripper pole?


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:39 am ET

Lina, i dont think they are helping him at all, but I think someone is feeding them all of this crap and they are running with it like dogs in heat.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:40 am ET

TMZ – they seem to be everywhere....


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:40 am ET

I meant Linda...sorry.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:40 am ET


I have too many...Dancing Machine, Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Who's Loving You the list goes on. Rhonda turned me on to a song called On The Line. Have you heard that one? I love that song.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:41 am ET

LOL Lori. 😀

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:41 am ET

@Mara – I love On The Line....I think I love them all. Hags United.


Cris   October 3rd, 2009 3:41 am ET

@lindafromnewyork-I agree the press tormented Jackson in the past, but I do find it strange that no one has spoken and the press has not asked questions about why there is no "real" information. This Murray blog article is mere hearsay of a supposed testimony or source. Some in the press have got to be in on this to an extent. Think of all the times Jackson's PR man would call the press ahead of time to tell them where Michael would be or what he would be doing.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:41 am ET

Lori JFM

Damn that was a good one! LOL IHYC

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:43 am ET

And don't forget.... I had that possible Michael "sighting" while watching a TMZ live feed.....


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:44 am ET

I really am leaning towards the no drugs in his system ( except what Murray thought he needed) and the healthy MJ. If we get to choose one, I choose that one . i like it better than the addict theory. 🙂

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 3:44 am ET

@Lori-What Michael sighting?? Do you have a pic or video?

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 3:45 am ET


On the line, very touching song, and part of a movie
so nice.
As a fan I love all his songs, really i think all of them are real pieces of ART.

And yes, when he was a little boy WOW!!, amazing.

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 3:45 am ET

So you guys are all over here!! I left you all msgs then realized I was talking to myself!!! I am glad though that other blog was too slow!

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:46 am ET

Lynn ILL

Scream is a good one. Both Michael and Janet look sexy in that video and the words are powerful.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:47 am ET

I wonder how much money I would be paid to have a " source" job. They must make good money, cause there sure are alot of them.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:49 am ET

on the line is beautiful–like it alot

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:50 am ET

@Cris - sorry no.... I wish I did. It was the Mickey Fine raid. Thin man, white button down shirt, wearing a gigantic afro, wig and carrying a statuette of Elvis. Made several passes in front of the camera...wanting to be seen. I've contacted a couple of sites about it but no response. I know it sounds unbelievable, but I know what I know and I know it to be so.


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:51 am ET

Lynn, I've done that before too...its when you start answering yourself thats scary.

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 3:52 am ET

Why would LAPD continue to tip off TMZ and not give info to mainstream media? This is the story of the year, worldwide, you would think sources would be popping up everywhere not just TMZ. Then again some organizations still do some fact checking even if it is half a@#ed so maybe that factors into it.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:52 am ET


Also the song with Maxwell "Softly" he uses Michael's voice in the beginning. Beautiful song.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:52 am ET

Stick with your story Lori!!! 😀

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:54 am ET

hi toni

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:54 am ET

Lynn IL

Someone said before that Michael had a photography friend that worked for TMZ but I forgot who.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:54 am ET

MJ sang backup vocals for some " Doors" songs as well.

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 3:54 am ET

Toni- Its when I answered myself that I got scared!! Glad to see you on here tonight=)

Lori- I saw the Mikey Fine clip as well. . .very strange!!

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:54 am ET

@Toni –absolutely. I know what I saw. I have no doubt. And I still know something more that I have not shared.


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:55 am ET

Hi Lind NY, I havent been on much lately. How are you? 🙂

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 3:56 am ET

Mara- Interesting, was that the photographer responsible for the ambulance photo?

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:56 am ET

-I heard that too

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:56 am ET you have to tell us!!!!!!!

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 3:57 am ET

I don't know how true it is but if it is then maybe that is why TMZ is getting their information before everyone else. Who knows.

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 3:57 am ET

Good (early) morning, ladies.

Well, well. well...the stripperpole lady is involved. The plot thickens.

Dr. Death, the orange jumpsuit I designed for you is complete and ready to be fitted...LAPD, please arrest his behind!


Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:57 am ET

Mara – I think they were talking about the photog that got the "ambulance shot"; but he worked for National Photo, not TMZ


lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:58 am ET

good toni
I've been on much either–moslty on jacquelyn's blog chat

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 3:58 am ET

So, have you all seen the photo of the mannequinne used for the " leave me alone " video next to the ambulance photo?????? PERFECT match.

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 3:59 am ET

@Mara-Yes the photographer's name is Ben Evenstad. That's another piece of this puzzle.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:59 am ET


Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 3:59 am ET

@Nicole - did you make a orange jumpsuit for stripperpole woman, too? Because I am thinking, aiding and abetting, or accessory.


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:00 am ET

Hi Nic 😀 😀 Its been awhile. I bet you missed me, huh?

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:00 am ET

Since I feel safe with this group here tonight here is something else that has got my attention. TI came on here saying that he/she would be interviewed the following wk. Then Jermaine is interviewed the following wk. in Ireland. Then "mj" gives us a dublin address this week that when checked out shows that that property and its surrounding properties had been rented out after Sept. 21st, coincidentally the same time Jermaine was in Ireland. . .huh?

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:02 am ET

Lina NY, there is a video showing MJ and others in the studio working on the mannequine for the LMA video. The then put the mannequine next to the ambulance photo, and its a perfect match.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:02 am ET

hi nicole
how are you

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:03 am ET

I dont know why I keep typing Lina instead of

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 4:03 am ET

Cris - I thought the photographer was Chris Weitz?

Lynn- IL - Coincidence maybe?


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:03 am ET

Lori - It wouldn't take me but a flash to put together a matching jumpsuit for Mz. Stripperpole Woman. No problem at all.

Hey Toni! It has been a while! Of course, I missed you. 🙂


Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:04 am ET

Nicole- Good to see you! Glad to hear you have been hard at work on those jumpsuits!!

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:04 am ET

Hi Linda - I'm fine, and you?


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:05 am ET

Lynn, i saw that too. The one house was gorgeous.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:06 am ET

your arms are gonna get tired–you will have to make alot of jumpsuits-get some vitamins

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:06 am ET

good morninig everyone

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:07 am ET

What manequinn was in the photo?

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:07 am ET

Nicole...The 911 Alveraz may need one too. You might as well sew up a few just in case.

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:07 am ET

nicole dont forget the cristals and rhinestones

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:07 am ET

Lynn - Yes, and I need to replenish my supply of rhinestones and Swarovski crystals for creating the newest jumpsuit.

I want to make sure that Mz. Alvarez hits the cellblock - in true stripperpole diva-style.


Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:08 am ET

Good morning Jacqueline!!

Did anyone ever figure out if stripper Alvarez was related to Alvarez the bodyguard?

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 4:08 am ET

Nicole is building muscle mass from using her Bedazzler with the Swarovski crystals.


Cris   October 3rd, 2009 4:09 am ET

@Lori-Yes Christopher Weiss took the pic and Ben Evenstad (a friend of Michael's) is a boyhood friend of Christopher.

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 4:09 am ET

Here is something to think about. It is said that Michaell has used ambulances to get away from press (a get away vehicle).

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:10 am ET

lynn i search every where nothing

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:10 am ET

Nicole- LOL!!! They may have to open a whole new cell block for all these losers by the time this investigation is over!!

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:10 am ET

lori–lol Bedazzler -love it

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:11 am ET

Linda - Girl, I know. They are keeping me busy! But I'd sew a million jumpsuits, if means putting away the criminals who killed Michael.

Toni - Don't worry, I am on the case!


Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:14 am ET

Oh the bedazzler, that brings back memories!! That thing did take some muscle to operate=)

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:17 am ET

im gonna get some coffie,
who wants some coffie?

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 4:17 am ET

Thanks Cris for clarifying that. So much info it is hard to keep it all straight, especially when so much of it is contradictory.


Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:18 am ET

Linda NY.
Go to the web site..."MJ conspiracy the truth behind the lies" Look under The manneqiun. it shows several photos and also ambulance pictures that make it impossible to take the picture that is being shown to the world. Its a cool website.

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:18 am ET

Lynn - You're right, and there is enough orange fabric for me to sew as many jumpsuits as needed!

It's time for the cops to load the paddywagon! Long overdue...


Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:18 am ET

Jacqueline- I was just wondering how long Alvarez the body guard was with Michael. If he was related to the stripper then it would open up the question; Did Murray get him the job? A bodyguard as an accomplice would be huge and could prove premeditation on behalf of Murray.

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:18 am ET

cris thank you

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:19 am ET

Toni- Is Michael the manequinn?

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:20 am ET

Alberto Alvarez, 32, Michael Jackson’s bodyguard, was the one who called 911 when Jackson collapsed. Alvarez had worked for Jackson for the past 18 months. Alvarez is a second generation Mexican who lives in Pomona, Calif. Alvarez is married and his parents live together with him. Alvarez was hired by Dr Tohme Tohme, Jackson’s business manager

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:20 am ET

I want some coffee

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 4:21 am ET

I have been asking about the Alvarez -Alvarez possible connection for a long time. I hope someone provides answers. It would certainly be interesting if those dots can be connected....


jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:21 am ET

my dear friend tom tom again

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:22 am ET

Everything and everyone are so interconnected in this thing!! I'm gonna break out the dry-erase board, I need to make some flow charts to keep it all straight!!

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:23 am ET

Good morning everyone 🙂
I searched in my music online shop today. The album “This is it” is already mentioned. Here’s the song list:
CD 1
1. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’
2. Jam
3. They Don’t Care About Us
4. Human Nature
5. Smooth Criminal (Radio Edit)
6. The Way You Make Me Feel
7. Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)
8. I Just Can’t Stop Loving You
9. Thriller
10.Beat It Single Version
11.Black Or White
12.Earth Song
13.Billie Jean
14.Man In The Mirror
15.This Is It Album Version
16.This Is It Orchestra Version
1. She’s Out Of My Life Demo
2. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ Demo
3. Beat It Demo
4. Planet Earth Poem

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:23 am ET

linda cream and sugar
ok i sent it to you

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:25 am ET

I hope so too lori–the whole thing is just nuts–everyone connected with Michael was out for something. Michael was a smart businessman; how he trusted everyone so much to let them into his life and take advange of him the way they did I don't understand.

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:26 am ET

If Gene would come back, he would help us connect the dots with precision.

Jacqueline/nl, good morning - I forgot to speak to you earlier. Sorry about that!


Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:26 am ET

I don't understand either. MJ trusted too much and too fast in people as he was always seeing just the good side in person, I think

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:27 am ET

coffee for me too please 🙂

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:27 am ET

lori me too
michael trust someone easely so the snakes got into his live

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:28 am ET

ok allure whit a cookie?

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:29 am ET

nicole its ok

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:29 am ET

yes and when i think about it i get angry at Michael because you can't be so trusting of people. He said in an interview that he could count his friends on one hand–then why did he trust all these other losers that he surrounded himself with?

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:29 am ET

yesssssssss please!

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:31 am ET

something is wrong whit gene
or someone makes him crazy so he wont come back
GENE we need you

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:32 am ET

How awful to live among people who always had ulterior motives concerning you. I have wondered how he had the confidence and intuition to assemble the "old team" again as advisers but then could not seem to get rid of the newer group of leeches?

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:34 am ET

I know
Leeches every single one of them

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:35 am ET

Many of Michael's business associates were recommended by people in his inner circle, who he already trusted.

Maybe he felt that he did not need to run a background check on each and every person because they came "highly recommended."

Now, when you look at it from that perspective, it becomes even more interesting. However, I will digress...for now.


marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 4:35 am ET

Have any of you been to the site called Michael Jackson Hoax Death? If you haven't you need to go there and read everything on the site and on the forum.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:35 am ET

good question! why did he trust? I think because he needed the feeling to be accepted, to be loved somehow. From what I understood he was always searching for affections. All these people around him, also in his home, were a kind of family for him. Just my opinion

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:36 am ET

he needed real friends like us so we all will do the best thing for him

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:36 am ET

I also wondered given the way he was constantly betrayed by his inner circle why there were not confidentiality aggreements in place and if there were why they were not enforced.

Toni   October 3rd, 2009 4:37 am ET

Lynn, in the video there is a mannequinne of Michael that has him laying down with the Neverland rides etc. on top of it. The mannequinne comes to life and rises. The photos show them ( including MJ ) working on the mannequinne getting ready for the video. It is laying on a table. When the ambulance photo is next to the mannequinne photo, they are identical. i tried to send the photos here, but it wouldnt let me and I dont know the URL right now. You would have to go to that site I just showed. I'll keep looking.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:38 am ET

Inner cirle of leeches-reccomending other leeches–That's great

you're right–Nicole–It seems like that–everyone he hired was reccomened by someone he already knew-maybe that was the problem-

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:39 am ET

Nicole- That is true if someone who has proven loyalty in the past recommends someone to you, you would tend to give that person a chance. I would at least until I got burnt the first time!

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 4:39 am ET

sorry girls got to go now come back later

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:40 am ET

Toni- was this on you tube?

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:40 am ET

could be but I think there was too many people

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 4:40 am ET

How would you like to live your life wondering about each and every person around you. Even wondering if your fans give a d*** or not. Can you think of a better reason to fake your death. A chance to see who is who and what is what and how your fans really feel about you.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:41 am ET

Hear u later girls

Ciao Jacqueline

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:41 am ET

Michael needed real friends-I don't think he had too many-I do understand that maybe he trusted these leeches because he was lonely

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 4:42 am ET

Everyone – I have to get some sleep. Early day tomorrow or should I say today. Will maybe see you tomorrow evening. 🙂


Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:43 am ET

Speaking of good friends, wasn't Miko Brando supposed to write a blog after the last memorial? I never saw it here.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:44 am ET

lori-tonight on jax's blog

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:44 am ET

Good night Lori see you tomorrow!

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:44 am ET

Good night, Lori. 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 4:45 am ET

later guys

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 4:45 am ET

Night Lori, sweet dreams

Lynn-IL   October 3rd, 2009 4:47 am ET

Goodnight everyone=)

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 4:48 am ET

Miko was family to Michael. He's lost his best friend...I don't expect him to write a follow-up blog anytime soon.

Sometimes it's better to grieve in private. I respect him for falling back a minute and allowing himself space to heal. Others could stand to borrow a page from his book.


Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 4:59 am ET

When are we going to get some substantial facts? Who cares if Murray had 7 or 9 children? What has that information to do with anything? I guess he had to live somewhere and a lot of men live toghether with their newborns mother.

I want to know if he is guilty of any crime, if he will be charged with something and if there is going to be a hearing. If they dont have any information to shar why come up with totally ininteresting stuff? TMZ has so much crap in their paper and I am happy it is not sold in my country.

jan   October 3rd, 2009 6:04 am ET

the guy was having a steady supply of this sent to girlfriend apartment but was too cheap to have the proper monitoring equipment.

Letta   October 3rd, 2009 6:07 am ET

This is really getting out of hand. If the Feds and LAPD know all this aboiut Dr Murray, why had they done anything about it? Instead, all you heard is negativeness about Michael, while this freak is still free. Something is wrong with this picture. Either, they arrest him or leave it along. Getting tired of reading hearsay abiut this doctor, who by the way is still free of a crime that they keep instisting that he has done. So, stop talking about it and do something that would make more sense, then keep bring up what he has done and still free.

Love & Peace For Michael

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 6:30 am ET

I agree with you to 100%

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:32 am ET

Hi everyone – it is going to take all weekend just to catch up on the blogs. I can't read that fast

Lynn-IL 3:52 am ET – Why would LAPD continue to tip off TMZ and not give info to mainstream media?

1. They have an informant on the inside
2. They are making it up as they go

I am skeptical of all the non-official reports including the leaked autopsy results. some things may be true, some not, so I will just try to have patience. Besides, girlfriend propofol stashes do not explain delays in 911 calls – that is a major question for me – to whom were these calls placed and what and could possibly need discussion when a man was lying dead? What about restarting the pulse? You would think a cardiologist would know what's needed and the importance of at least attempting this. Especially in this day and age when successful resuscitation has happened many minutes after a person has lost vital signs. Just how incompetent was this man when lay people seem to know more than he?

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:38 am ET

Off topic, but I've got Unbreakable in my head this morning. I wonder if the lyrics are a stab back at the media? anyone know?

Now I'm just wondering why you think
that you can get to me with anything
seems like you'd know by now
When and how I get down
And with all that I've been through,
I'm still around

Don't you ever make no mistake
Baby I've got what it takes
And there's no way you'll ever get to me
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

You can't believe it, you can't conceive it
and you can't touch me, 'cause I'm untouchable
and I know you hate it, and you can't take it
You'll never break me, 'cause I'm unbreakable

Now you can't stop me even thought you think
that if you block me, you've done your thing
and when you bury me underneath all your pain
I´m steady laughin', while surfacing

Don't you ever make no mistake
baby I've got what it takes
and there's no way you'll ever get to me
Why can't you see that you'll never ever hurt me
'cause I wont let it be, see I'm too much for you baby

You can try to stop me, but it wont do a thing
no matter what you do, I'm still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I'm a still remain the same, I'm unbreakable

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 6:41 am ET

Toni October 3rd, 2009 4:52 am ET

I dont know if you believe in that or just showing the clip but if you do then you must also believe that Murray is innocent?

When I look at that Mowtown identification I feel sadness, how little did that cute little boy know about what life commitment he got himself into.

When I look at that liberian girl photo I also feel sadness because no matter if Michael is dead of alive, that Michael Jackson is long gone, has been gone for decades and will never return.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:50 am ET

jacqueline\nl 4:20 am ET and lindafromnewyork

Another Tohme connection.

Michael wanting propofol and getting what he wants is believable. But Michael trusting someone who was out to steal his catalogue or at least alot of money, that also sounds very plausible too. I am making no assumptions on what really happened, I just pray that the truth does become known. I really hope the police can get there – to the truth.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:56 am ET

And that's another thing – Letterman uses his employees for sex, Polanski does it with a 13-year old, but the called Michael a danger.

Well, for all Michael's so called controversies, you never heard this kind of sh– come out about him – oh yeah, that's right, that's because Michael had something called a sense of morality.

I've notice a change in the media though, they are really toning negative things down, they seem to realize no one is interested in their slander-fiction about him. who knows, in a few weeks they may actually say something nice about him, miracles do happen.

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 6:57 am ET

Mary- Even though it was written in 2001 it sounds like the words were meant for the media today. I know you will think me very strange but as I was reading those lyrics I was seeing Michael very much alive right now.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 6:58 am ET

Per that search warrant, Murray said he did not provide or prescribe any meds to MJ. If Murray did send diprivan to his girlfriends house, then he DID provide meds. That will be an additional charge against him.

The DA may also be stalling the case to find out the outcome of the Anna Nichole case. Howard K. Stern and the 2 doctors have similar charges that the DA will use against Murray, Klein, etc.

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 7:00 am ET

Mary- One thing that has always been said about Michael is that he was very business savy and knew how to make money. No one could pull the wool over his eyes where his business was concerned.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:02 am ET

Did anyone watch the video today from Majestik Magnificent? It's on radaronline. He was interviewed after the court case today. The man needs to keep his mouth shut.

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 7:02 am ET

It is hard to tell what is planted and what is real where these news items are concerned.

tay   October 3rd, 2009 7:23 am ET

The truth exists only false hood has to be invented

Never a truer word spoken from the lips of deceit

All the lies will be broken and washed aside

To replenish another day to weave despair

And lie silent for ever more silent silence

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:31 am ET

marguerite – It sounds like Unbreakable is slamming the media – they dogged Michael for decades – I remember back in the day, the elephant man bones story and the hyperbaric chamber one. that was way back, early mid-80's, they were really silly and I realized very early on that tabloids were for the incredibly ignorant and weak minded.. they said that it was Michael's own doing, that these stories came from Michael's publicity team – which they may have – because alot of the backstabbers appear to have been connected to his publicity team at one time or another.

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 7:31 am ET

hi everyone
tay are you the nephew of michael?

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:34 am ET

Hello again everyone 🙂

I thought Joe is the short form for Joseph, am I wrong??
Sorry, the clip does not convince me.

jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 7:38 am ET

hi allure
how was the cookie

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:41 am ET

I repeat – I would be the happiest woman on earth if our golden boy would still be alive.
There's one thing I just don't get:
Let's assume that MJ's death is a hoax, let's assume that he's hiding in secret place, OK.
And later on?
Is he supposed to show up all at once?
What will he tell the world, especially his fans??

I have no intention to hurt someone, as I know how some bloggers feel, I would like to understand as I really don't get it.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:42 am ET

very tasty, thanks a lot 🙂

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:47 am ET

marguerite 7:00 am ET – Michael certainly was a master of the game and a good businessman, he sure knew how to package and market his brand.

I laugh alot when I watch Michael (not sure, maybe being in marketing). I see alot of the things he is doing to get a create a specific mood or reaction and I laugh because even though I recognize what he is doing, it is still so effective. That jump out of the stage and remain still thing gets the people into absolute hysteria right off the bat – absolute genius, that's what that is. I don't understand the whole wind thing and the posing – yet it is amazingly effective – what an incredible showman – like I said, he was master of the game.

But for business, I always wonder why he had individuals hired instead of reputable firms that do this kind of thing? There is such a history of celebrities being burned by unscrupulous individuals.

That seems to be a trait for Michael – maybe part of the control thing, or thought he needed specialized care, maybe he thought there would be less chance of leaks of confidentiality with individuals, not sure, maybe a combination.

But I always felt that respected firms that have an established reputation to maintain would better care for celebrities' money and publicity than individuals that can be more easily seduced by money and power.

now I want to watch another concert!

Nicole S. -- North Carolina   October 3rd, 2009 7:47 am ET

Balmain and Balenciaga: flashback and fast forward
Fashion Critic
October 3, 2009

Balenciaga combined leather and coarse raffia with plastics. Balmain had a military look with extreme shoulder lines, fringed epaulets and badges a la Michael Jackson.

Reporting from Paris – In fashion, there's a never-ending battle between the crowd-pleasing commercial and the boundary-pushing conceptual. And nowhere was it more clear at this week's Paris runway shows than at Balmain and Balenciaga, destined to be two of the spring season's most influential collections. Both emphasized a new urban sportiness, but in vastly different ways.

The flashy, trashy glamour of Christophe Decarnin at Balmain has been driving the fashion world of late - the sequins, stripes, ripped jeans and fringed booties on the street and in stores right now are all from him. So Zara and H&M should be thankful for another hot Balmain show.

For spring 2010, he turned to the military look, with coppery metal mesh as the main stylistic element in his raucous collection, set to 1980s party anthem "Rapper's Delight."

The show had all the sizzle of a Hollywood event. There's also the matter of timing. If there is someone who has inadvertently benefited from Michael Jackson's death, it is Decarnin. (Jackson had been known to wear some of Decarnin's jackets.) And the designer continued to hearken back to the King of Pop with extreme shoulder lines, fringed epaulets and military badges on those now-famous jackets.

The 1980s flashback might have started to wear thin if the workmanship were not so impressive. Coppery mesh and sequins were masterfully draped into warrior princess mini- dresses, cinched with bullet-studded crocodile belts, while slashed T-shirts topped skintight, lace-up leather leggings and cargo pants.

It's not as if these clothes are new, but their brash sexiness is what's grabbing the attention of Rihanna (sitting front row), Beyoncé and Gwyneth Paltrow. It is unapologetically in-your-face, look-at-me fashion for the celebrity era.

By comparison, Balenciaga was a burst of modernism. Nicolas Ghesquière was ahead of the curve last season with his feminine print dresses, lace bandeaus and swagged silk skirts. So now that everyone else is feeling romantic for spring, he's moved on.

"I wanted something urban and graphic," the designer said backstage. "Collages of natural and synthetic materials, almost like toys." Ghesquière combined leather and coarse raffia with plastics, blurring the lines between real and fake, new and old, couture and mass. I like to imagine him in art class with scissors, colored paper and glue, cutting and pasting the clothes. And indeed, there was a two-dimensional quality to them, as if they had been put together on paper dolls.

Motocross-inspired hooded vests pieced together from leather and textured jersey were worn with skintight leather leggings tucked into what are sure to be the extreme footwear of the season - short booties with shafts covered in metal hardware.

Next up were sleeveless tops with racing stripes, skirts with haphazardly placed sheer and pleated panels, and a handful of snug-fitting leather jackets. Short dresses were collages of shiny, matte and transparent pieces. Plastic-y miniskirts in multicolored stripes came with sleeveless shirts in crisp white, slit open to reveal flashes of color.

These clothes were like nothing you've ever seen. The challenge will be in how they translate from the runway to the street, and indeed to Zara.



jacqueline\nl   October 3rd, 2009 7:52 am ET

allure you are wright when he is alife when he comes back into the spotlight what goiing to happen
lots of fans will be sceaming yes he is alive i know it
but on the other hand how many people think whats that a sick joke
the media gonna make him hell believe me

JaYme   October 3rd, 2009 7:53 am ET

Everyone needs to look at will never know, however it is very interesting!!!!

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:56 am ET

He would not hide for the fest of his life, that would be like living in jail

I would continue hearing his music, watching his DVD's but for the rest.........

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:56 am ET

Sorry, I don't believe the hoax for one minute. coroners do not take part in hoaxes, they issued a death certificate for a 50 year old man dead of propofol overdose. it's not like Michael would murder someone to do a hoax and it's not like you can go down to the docks and find a completely pigmentless homeless guy about to OD on propofol as a handy double.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 7:56 am ET

If this is true, GOOD..... :D.
But who are 'law enforcement'.


irene   October 3rd, 2009 7:57 am ET

Hi Allure,

Where did you see this info, about the album.

Two new songs...?

(Sony does know how to MARKET an album, that is actually not new AT ALL – if this is true..).

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:58 am ET

What page is this?? There's a blonde woman???

irene   October 3rd, 2009 7:59 am ET

Like On the line as well. But also Fall again and For all time.. soooo beautiful....
Does anyone know from what year "weve had enough" is...?

His voice is so deep there.....

L O V E to all

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:59 am ET

thank you

irene   October 3rd, 2009 7:59 am ET



Allure   October 3rd, 2009 8:02 am ET

It's from my online music shop in Switzerland. Why 2 new songs?
Are u talking about the two versions of This is it?

irene   October 3rd, 2009 8:02 am ET

Cris, good point why the press hasnt asked questions with regard to REAL OFFICIAL info.
Then again, they are not FAMILIAR WITH THAT CONCEPT..........

Besides that, they risk people asking THEM, why didnt YOU ask questions earlier..............

They know theyre have blood on their hands as well....

I think journalism somethimes brings out the worst in people.

People are not something 'to hunt for', 'commodities' to make money from, like computers, washing machines, books, parfumes....:

People, individuals are actually a bit more complicated than that......

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 8:05 am ET

Mary- I will be 51 this week and I remeber Michael Jackson when he was just a member of the Jackson 5. I grew up listening to his songs. The reason he didn't go with the big firms was he wanted control as well as say in what he did and how he did it. The bigger firms wouldn't give him that.

Now I have something for everyone to think about. Before June you would see pics every so often of Michael's kids. From June until now the only ones we see have been at the were at the Memorial and the funeral. It is as if they have disappeared off the face of the earth. I even went to Getty Images and looked there are none to be had since the memorial/Funeral services. It is as if they have disappeared.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 8:06 am ET

about the blond woman – I got it......... I'm sleepy this morning 🙂

irene   October 3rd, 2009 8:07 am ET

Toni, our Michael IS dead.........................

Get a grip..!!!

irene   October 3rd, 2009 8:11 am ET

For your own sake.

And if there something with the burial certificate, perhaps Michael IS buried at Neverland, or somewhere else, and not a Forest Lawn. Well, good for Michael, then he is a peace.

We cant check that, can we...?

I remember Lisa Marie saying once she felt hurt when people distributed theories about ELvis not being dead. I can imagine.

Do you really think Paris was crying as an act, during the memorial..? Come on guys, they have seen their daddy dead. They are perhaps are biggest source.

And apart from that the picture from motown is VERY cute, this is NOT substantial information he is not gone.

Sorry, for being so blunt.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 8:13 am ET

Who says Michael trusted people. He didnt. Most of them..

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 8:17 am ET

We've had enough – 2004
But I'm not sure if this information is correct as I have this song on a "Greatest Hits" album

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:27 am ET

Mj aint no sunshine now youve gone its makeing me feel bad
Can you feel it i want you back baby be mine dont say goodbye
weve got a good thing going i wanna rock with you
Say say say you will its the way you make me feel
Your my best friend if your not back soon
There will be blood on the dance floor
Its to late to change i wanna be your pyt
Weve got for ever heaven can wait will you be there
You rock my world your dangerous lets make history
My heart beats for you sweet mj

Jacquelyn   October 3rd, 2009 8:27 am ET

You Know let's say Michael's death was a hoax and he is alive. If he comes back and all admitted this was a publicity stunt it would be a backlash on him. You think the media and others treated him bad before that would be nothing for what they would have in store for him if this is true. When people heard of his death there was grief that no one ever felt before. For goodness sake you had people committing suicide after learning Michael was dead. You think others would take that well? The media never like Michael. Do you really think they will praise him and welcome him back with open arms if this true? No way. After they get done with him, they will make Michael wish he stayed in hiding.

Michael is dead, he is gone. Yes its hard for all of us to accept this but its true. He is off to a better place. Michael accomplished what he need to here on Earth and now his job is done and he had been called home to get the peace he deserves.


Maureen (UK)   October 3rd, 2009 8:36 am ET

Hi all, Ciao Allure,

I've got a few queries about Propofol.

How can a lethal dose of Propofol be given? (Acute Propofol intoxication)
Error or what else ?
Propofol was stored at the house of a third party. Why ?
Could it have been tampered with ?

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:37 am ET

marguerite – yeah, I'm 49 and remember. He sure was a control fanatic – I guess because he had his vision and let's face it – he was a genius – it is what made him great. But it also created a situation where he could be vulnerable to abusers. Double-edged sword and all that.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:39 am ET

Mareen – that is my question too. how about Tohme saying hey Murray, don't worry, I'll get pick up that propofol vial for you....

solty   October 3rd, 2009 8:46 am ET

I don't trust TMZ because of the awful way they described Michael after his death saying he was old, starved, bald, etc. They haven't answered the fans of MJ who want to know why they made all this crap up.

Maureen (UK)   October 3rd, 2009 8:49 am ET

Yes. You wonder how many people visited the house ? Did this lady work in a club & did friends/aquaintences come back to the house ?
If Dr Murray says he gave 25mgs but the dose was much greater there must be an explanation.
Sony & Mattola had a grudge against Michael.

marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 8:51 am ET

Mary- Being famous has it negatives as well as it positives and he went into it with his eyes open. He also said he wouldn't have changed being famous.

Maureen (UK)   October 3rd, 2009 8:52 am ET

I never visited TMZ's web site for that. I get the impression they are not printing that kind of rubbish now ?

Pippa   October 3rd, 2009 8:52 am ET

I agree with Jacqueline, it hurts i know but we have to let him rest in peace.

If you check out Rebbie Jackson's twitter page she replies to a question from a fan who said she hopes and prays Michael would return.
Rebbie replied "the only way Michael will come back is in spirit, believe that"
Do you think his sister would lie.

I have cried over this so many times and still do but we must go on Michael would have wanted us to. Let us keep his legacy alive and spread Love as he always wanted.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:56 am ET

Maureen – I keep wondering if he had an overdose, could it be that it was pure and not diluted propofol? only the actual vial would prove that. too many questions and patience is not one of my virtues

Maureen (UK)   October 3rd, 2009 9:08 am ET

I think the Propofol intoxication will be a key question in the investigation. They are probably focussing on that but won't share it with us.
But where there's a will there's a way.

This is an entirely different case but just goes to show how devious people can be.
A Russian defector was given a radioactive drink in a cafe in London, a couple of years ago. He died in hospital ( in horrific pain) & all the specialists were able to trace the cause & source but not save the patient.

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   October 3rd, 2009 9:08 am ET

We are fed with stories of this docor doing this and that/.
But we have yet to hear charges from the LA district attorney.
Please, please charge hm fast.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:11 am ET

Maureen – I remember that case. murderers can, unfortunately, be very creative

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:18 am ET

The only person I know that was murdered was a cop, about 12 years ago, we are friends of his parents. the murderer walked into a bar, walked up to him and popped him right there in front of everyone.

Yet the trial was still so horrible, so hard on our friends who sat in court day after day listening to defense make it sound like their son drove this mad man to the brink. But Tom was one of the best people on earth, a stellar police officer and a caring individual who even kept track of the people he arrested to see if they needed any help to stay straight. My friends are much younger than Mrs. Jackson and I hope and fear for her health considering what lies ahead.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 9:21 am ET

I can see where some people would think that it was a manniquin in the ambulance. There is a clip of Lou Ferrigno saying that Michael was a prankster and would sent a manniquin out in an ambulance just to throw the media off.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:31 am ET

Mark my words.

Nothing will EVER happen to Mr Murray.

TmZ, you little rascals!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:34 am ET

There is a reason TMZ is the first source for ALL things MJ breaking..

And I will leave it at that.

Maureen (UK)   October 3rd, 2009 9:39 am ET

I think Katherine & Joe Jackson (& all the family) must be going through hell. Sorry to hear about your family friend.

Unbreakable- Do you think TMZ are leading us nowhere with this article ?

irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:41 am ET

Pipa, I agree. Theres no way you get a WHOLE family – and especially (!) not the jacksons – to L I E . . . . . . . .

Thanks Allure, for the information.

Going back the blog 'health MJ' later.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:44 am ET

I dont believe TMZ. And I dont believe people who 'claim' the truth.
It is too soon for that.
And, yes, Murray will get arrested. (Even If he doesnt he is convicted anywayz, imagine him having a life after this? More than 5 patients? I dont think so....).

And if nothing happens, we always have June 25th 2010 to demonstrate in Washington.

I think a group of at least 10.000 fans cant be missed :D.
It will be a protest for media ethics, and the right for justice.



I am serious about that. I already took the week off.


marguerite   October 3rd, 2009 9:45 am ET

Maria– Michael's family as well as his close friends called him The Joker. Because he loved to play pranks and jokes.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:49 am ET


Now since we are all from different parts in the world.
Imagine, demonstrations at 10 different place in the world :-).

It could be communicated to the press, or just be a surprise.

New York
Cape Town
Shang Hai
Buenos Aires
Los Angeles

To name a few.

It will be a march for Michael, and for media ethics.

Another record for Michael 😀

"Never was there any fan base this loyal and motivated...."

irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:51 am ET

ps * familie LIE:

The family cant even get a common opinion / agreement on the funeral of their beloved, on tribute concerts.....

irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:53 am ET

And if you dont want to be recognized during the march, we all dress up as Mike 😀

Samantha, how are you...?
Coco Velvet how are you...? Had a nice dream this night?

What time is it at your place? For me 15.50 pm.


irene   October 3rd, 2009 9:56 am ET

Dear margeurite,
I think theyre at the jackson family home, playing with nephews etc.. kept away from the media and other 'opiniated' people. I think thats good for them. You dont want to hear screamed from the cross of the street: "Hey Blanket, daddy ever told you youre his....?". When your daddy just died. Stuff like that....
By the way, I did see some new pictures.....? I think yesterday...?

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 9:59 am ET


Are you in Southafrica?

Céline - FR   October 3rd, 2009 10:03 am ET

Hi everyone (d)

so why the doctor is not arrested? :s

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:18 am ET

TMZ tells us things they are told to tell us.

I am not saying what the print is not true.(or at least THEY think it is true) .but there is a reason for each and every story and there is a reason they print it all first.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:22 am ET

Mr.Murray won't be arrested because he is just the fall guy.

Sure he gave the drugs to him, but there was another doctor who prescribed them.. He did not.

Too many other people involved for just one man to go down.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:25 am ET

Hey everyone. wow lots of new people.
It's the MJ love.
You know what I say since the cops won't take these creep down that took our Michael from us, why don't wwe the fans produce our own judge and jury.
HAHa take that quack Murray. This dr needs to go down..
This must be part of the testimony she gave to the grand jury last week. Let's see what else comes out.

Thanks Larry for keeping the blogs going.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:25 am ET

@ Irene.

You are right about the family...

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:25 am ET

geeeeez spell check

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:27 am ET

Patty – ha ah – I like the Steve Harvey radio interview... "Mike, I know some people in low places...."

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:29 am ET

Hi MaryRm How are you today

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:29 am ET

@ Patty,

Michel Jackson was loved by millions,including myself.

I won't even go into my thoughts on this man because I am still hurt and grieving for him. And it sickens me what happen to him.

He was charming, funny as hell, and the sweetest man you could ever imagine.

Doctor Murray will be brought to justice, but not by a jury of his peers in a court of law.

But by Michaels fans.

I am sure there is more than one fan who would have ni issue busting his knee caps if they were to run into him on the street.

I am sure this is part if the reason the man never leaves his house.

Céline - FR   October 3rd, 2009 10:30 am ET

I really believe that the biggest mistake Michael ever did in his life is the interview with Oprah

It oppened the doors of hell for him with all what happened after that ….
It’s true he was so humble and down to earth – which the majority of people were not expecting -, but also he appeared so sensitive so vulnerable and also so fragile and deeply scarred with his past

Hence that made him look like an easy target to all those vultures – the Chandlers and others –

Everything changed after that interview …. in a bad way …. the way people perceived him

he didn’t need to prove anything to anybody ....

anyways whoever adviced him to make that interview, he literally ruined his life and deprived us from this great artist ….from many many albums …. and great songs shows and concerts and he would have done the last fifteen years , but the most important he deprived him from having a stable and happy life with his children and family

Peace & Love

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 10:30 am ET

Patty and MaryRM,

Interesting to say the least. I'm with u Patty

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 10:31 am ET


Hi Irene- Just so you know, Randy Jackson, Michael's younger brother, is very friendly with TMZ; this is not a secret. Randy Jackson has released many statements on behalf of the Jackson Family to TMZ. TMZ posted Michael's death before it was even announced. TMZ announced that Propofol was found in MJ's home, before the LAPD did. TMZ announced the day and location of the Memorial before it was announced to the general public (just one of several examples) TMZ has been very consistent with their release of information. Unlike most websites, TMZ is produced by several lawyers, Including Hollywood Entertainment lawyer, Harvey Levin. They would not be foolish enough to release information that could result in slander (verbal) or liability (written) repercussions. If one can find a major inconsistency with TMZ's reports thus far on the Michael Jackson case, I would be surprised. TMZ has always been one step ahead of the rest of the media- and accurately I may add. Just because their reporters are less conventional, doesn't mean their information is less credible.
IHMJ xoxo

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 10:34 am ET

{{{{{{{{{{{{{ JUDIE AND PATTY }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Have a great day! Probably won't be haggin' out tongiht- have a hag birthday party to go to.... But I may pop in later in the night.

Patty, I'm with you too! And we have our own Judge Judie too!

ihmj xoxo

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 10:34 am ET

Sorry mmj I did not see u sneak in between refresh.

IHUG bbff

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:35 am ET

by the way..I went back in the chat and read all the logs from last night.

I did not see you call me a traitor, that is why I never addressed it.

And I do not have to prove anything to you, or anyone else about who I am.

That is not why I am here..I have been coming here for months and months.

I never made any claims about anything. So I am not sure what you think I am lying about.

Or how I am a fake. makes no sense. How can I be a fake when i never represneted myself as anything but a Michael Jackson fan.

I don't expect or want anyone else to think or feel the way I do.

And I was not trying to convince anyone other wise.

And no, I am NOT the Informer.

I swear..

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 10:36 am ET

See U tonight mmj

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:40 am ET

And yes what MMJ said is true..many of the Jackson clan have no issue tellig things to TMZ, including Papa Joe..

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:43 am ET

I hear ya Unbreakable loud and clear. Nice to meet you by the way.
Let's just hope his justice is more than a slap on the hold and don't do it again. He needs to go to prision. Lock him up with the MJ fans,

Yes I do believe he will someday meet his fate with the fans.
He took away from us the most precious gift God had to give to people outside of his son. But, not just from us fans who lovved him dearly. He also took him away from all the people that benefitted from Michaels kind heart and his nature for giving.

My world has been turned upside down since his death. At least before, even though we hadn't seen him for awhile, at least we knew he was still with us. Now he's gone forever. All because of one money hungry pathetic human being.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:44 am ET

Very true MMJ hag. Well you have fun at your hag b-day party. Start practicing for next August 🙂

Jacquelyn   October 3rd, 2009 10:45 am ET

I think all of these leaks are going to mess up the case in the long run. That is if they are even true to begin with

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:45 am ET

Hi Judie hag IHYG

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 10:45 am ET

I have seen photos of the kids on TMZ multiple times since the Memorial Service. They appear to be doing well.

I think there is a deliberate leak of information to try to squeeze Murray. Maybe they will charge him with 2nd degree and hope he pleads guilty to manslaughter to avoid a trial. Or TMZ bought off one of the grand jurors. Or maybe it is Randy trying to keep the pressure on the LAPD/DA.

MJ would want his legacy to be his music not scandals. The media will not cover anything positive about MJ because only negative stuff gets ratings. I would really like for a trial not to happen because then they will trash MJ the whole time.

I watched my new Live From Munich last night and was impressed at how good a copy it was. I got it from a particular seller if you want to know who. Knowing what the autopsy says about his lungs I noticed him being more short of breath than before . He was 40 even though he didn't look it at all.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:46 am ET

Hi Jacquelyn. I sure hope not but you are probably right and it's probably why they are leaking them. I really think there is way to much involved in this case and they don't want to deal with it. They hated Michael anyway.
Why would they want to bring him justice when they wanted to crucify him?

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:47 am ET

@ Patty,
I feel your pain. I do.

What was taken from us fans is nothing compared to what was taken from his family..(children,mother,siblings)

I have a differnet perspecitve on things and see and view things than most "fans"

What was done to Michael is sickening.

He was a wonderful, wonderful man..

And I miss him everyday.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:49 am ET

@ Jaquline

you are spot on with your comment.

good job!

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 10:52 am ET

{{{{{{ Hag hug }}}}}}}}}
XXXXXXXX Hag kisses because it's Saturday XXXXXXXXX
Judie, keep the troops in line tonight- I may not be haggin tonight

Patty- Brilliant commentary. I'll be practicing of course for August!
{{{{{{{{{{{ Patty Haggy Hug }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

IHMJ xoxo

Judie- Tell Rerun I said Hi!

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 10:54 am ET

mmj lol
Be good tonight and if u can't be safe. ihug ihmjj ihhg

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 10:54 am ET

I do not believe the leaks will mess up the case. I believe they are doing it deliberately drip drip drip to influence Murray in some way. The only thing that will mess up the case is not securing the crime scene. I never thought the girlfriend was getting the propofol. Good thing the cops are smarter than I am. TMZ says this leak was from LAPD – I got confused reading the posts. It was not from another source.

They are not going to all this trouble to not press charges against him. They know the eyes of the world are on them. They are just making sure they have a solid case. They do not want to lose another high profile case. If they don't bring charges of manslaughter, it will only be because they don't think they had enough evidence to convict him and don't want to look like fools like the OJ case.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:55 am ET

no, I think the Oprah interview was great. it was done in early 1993 but Jordan Chandler was already in Michael's life by then, I think he was in 1992. I thought that was a great interview, loved it, it made Michael appear very sweet and down to earth.

The reason Oprah asked all those questions was to directly attack all the tabloid garbage that was already being printed about Michael. Oprah was so taken with him that she throws her arms around Michael in the theatre. And it was live, that wasn't rehearsed.

it is only now that she appears strangely ambivalent, perhaps because she was abused herself or perhaps because she has to bow down to the network that airs her show, not sure.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 10:57 am ET

Anne I sure hope you are right, however these leaks concern me. Maybe it will put some pressure on quack Murray. One never knows.

Big HAG HUG MMJ. Have fun but, please be safe

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:00 am ET

Anne – how long did it take for you to get your Munich DVD? I ordered on Thursday

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:00 am ET

Heres my question again......

Where are the missing tapes. There has to be a copy from the security place. I'm sure its a very hi-teh security company,and they should have some sort of back up system.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:01 am ET

Oprah is not a Michael Jackson fan, or supporter.

if watching her "tribute" to him did not convince you of that, nothing will.

she think Michael Jackson is "weird" and a "child predator"

I have not watched her show since she gave her "loving tribute" to our beloved Michael.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:03 am ET

Judie No one has heard the location of the tapes and since they didn't seal the house off immediately, we probably never will. It wouldn't surprise if the doc didn't destroy them right away.

Anne so is where I can order that?

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:03 am ET

The tapes are gone..I do not think we will ever hear anything about those tapes.

Someone has them..

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:03 am ET

yes, that is now, but I am talking about back in 1993. those were great days before all the viciousness started.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:04 am ET

those missing tapes are like the Nixon tapes. they are what will destroy whoever got hold of them. I don't want to think about what they contain but hope someone has a copy.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:05 am ET

I don't watch her either Unbreakable. I completely believe the only reason she did that tribute was because of the fan pressure she was recieving. I don't really even call that a tribute. It was more about her than anything.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:05 am ET

Maria G-3:32am
Propofol can be administered both ways. In surgery, usually it's administered IV with a syringe to immediately put the patient to sleep. In an ICU setting, it's administered IV drip, the bag is hanging and it's a continuouse drip...for patients who are on ventilators. Our ICU uses it frequently.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:06 am ET


I still say there is a copy of them somewhere...

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:06 am ET

The Michaelgate tapes ... I keep saying I wish Woodward and Bernstein took an interest in this

Céline - FR   October 3rd, 2009 11:06 am ET

Hi MaryRM

of course the interview was great for his fans and the people who loved him
but on the other hand he appeared so vulnerable and fragile
and as I mentioned before it made him look like an easy target for those people who extorted him

and by the way Oprah kept reminding us that this interview was 6 months before the Chandler's case

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:07 am ET

what reporter asks a grown man if they are a virgin?

I can see asking the other things, but that?

That is where she lost me.

she would never have asked any other grown man such a question.

And yes, those tapes will never be seen or heard from can almost bet on that.

when the LAPD did not seal off the crime scene you have to expect these sorts of things to happen.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:07 am ET

I find it interesting that no info has leaked from the hospital staff, employees,etc. I'm sure TMZ has tried. I just knew there would be all kinds of stories leaked from these groups.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:07 am ET

Let's hope so Judie.
Most of all let's hope they turn up

Hi Sandy-Houston. How have you been? Keeping the watch dog out for the doc?

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:08 am ET

You have a very good point Sandy. Usually the hospitals always have someone who talks. That is very strange

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:10 am ET

I find it puzzeling that no hospital staff will even confirm he was even there.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:11 am ET

MaryRM.....Michaelgate lol


Me too i wondered that myself unless the Jacksons made them all sign a privacy statement of some sort.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 11:13 am ET

I got it from barrbrian93 on I went to the post office and got a money order and mailed it to him because I did not want to use a credit card. Some sellers take pay pal but I do not have it either. I got it in less than a week. I sent the money in the mail Friday and got it on Wednesday.

Oprah is too judgmental about MJ. I do not think any of these people even bother to find out if what they think is the truth.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:13 am ET

I am not sure the Jackson family can force anyone to sign such a thing.

Heck even a janitor won't confirm he was there..NO ONE..

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 11:13 am ET

sorry typo barrybrian93 on

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:14 am ET

Céline – FR,

How are you I did not see you sneak

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:14 am ET

I am no fan of Oprah anymore so don't really want to defend her, however, I am just giving the atmosphere of January 1993. There was lots of garbage about that in the tabloids, because Michael was squeeky clean and people actually printed and read about how he was probably a 34 year old virgin. It was really quite disgusting. So Oprah was covering all the topics that had been written at that time from hyperbaric chambers to Clinton's inauguration. But of course, he was very embarrassed by such a question. I love his response, that is private. That interview was thought very highly of at the time.

Oprah's behaviour now is beneath her. It's beneath anyone.

Céline - FR   October 3rd, 2009 11:16 am ET

Hi Judie
I'm OK .... very busy 😦

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:16 am ET

I still find the question appauling.

she just wanted to humilate him IMO.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:17 am ET

Sweet thanks Anne

That just amazes me Unbreakable. Why such silence. We all know he was there. However, it just might be away for them to protect Michael which is such fine with me. I'd rather have their silence that a bunch of nasty rumors again.

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 11:18 am ET

Hi Everybody!

Jacquelin and Allura.I dont believe,he is a life,but how you said,lets say,he is.So,if he is,Maybe he never come back.He disapire froever.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:19 am ET

That s true Patty. I would not want a bunch of hog wash being spread about him.

But yet, enough has been spread already. what is stopping them?

He was either murdered and there is a HUGE cover up going on..or he is still alive.

His death was no "accident"

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:20 am ET

I think Oprah was abused when she was little so thats where the not trusting Michael comes in ...She just wasn't sure so she played it off.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 11:20 am ET

MaryRM – My comment about Oprah is just about her attitude toward MJ now. I loved the 93 interview. He looked adorable and we got to see Neverland.

The hypocrisy really gets me. Last night on Anderson Cooper they do a whole thing about how awful it is and how prevalent it is that so many people try to black mail celebrities for money. And the lawyer from Hollywood was saying we try not to call the police because then the unwanted information gets out to the public anyway. He said cases are settled quietly all the time ie people pay them off.

Why doesn't anyone see the connection to what happened to MJ in 93 here? Everyone just believes the father who brought the lawsuit. The media really brainwashed people against him. It is so unfair.

I also got Private Home Movies from that seller. I absolutely love that dvd. It cheers me up and then makes me cry at the end because it shows his children.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:21 am ET

Of course the question is appalling. what is even worse is that on Diane Sawyer, Michael is MARRIED and Diane (also not a fan of her) is embarrassed to ask the question and shows clips that people are still asking pretty much the same quesstion... they are asking if Michael and Marie are 'doing it'. THEY ARE MARRIED for heaven sake – what kind of incredibly crazy people are these anyway? It boggles the mind

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:22 am ET


GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 11:22 am ET

@ Unbreakable
I'm new here, and I don't know if you talked about this before, but,
any doctor at the hospital refuse to sign an inform about his death, i mean that's crazy, unusual.
Specially when they refuse to sign a "death certificate"

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:23 am ET


Deborah Campise Kunesh is putting together a positve website for Michael. I think I may have told some of you about this. She wants to find the truth just like all of us. I just saw a very disturbing picture on her Facebook. It's side by side pictures of Michael from several years ago(gold pants 🙂 and another picture of him at This Is It rehearsal.'s very concerning. There's such a weight difference and he doesn't look healthy.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:23 am ET

I meant Lisa marie

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:26 am ET

Excellent Sandy-Houston keep us posted on the site. I would love to see it.

I'm off to work everyone. Have a great blogging day

Keep the MJ love flowing

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 11:26 am ET

Hi Judie! 🙂

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:27 am ET

It still difficult to comprehend that Oprah never made a comment about Michael's death. No word from her for 2 months. And then we get this lame MJ tribute show. Her heart was not in it. It would have been better had she never done one. Very strange....

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:27 am ET

I have been saying that for years.

Michael was blackmailed in 93...its clear..

All these horrid things that were said about Micheal effected him deeply.

The fact there are people out there that think he could ever harm a child made him sick inside. It tore him apart like nothing else.

Michael wanted his whole pursona to be of a loving , giving man...which he was..But than his image was shredded to bits and it tore him apart.

It is hard to recover from such events.

Than in 2005, that there nearly killed him.

I was worried about him during this time..

He was never the same after that

and this is what breaks my heart the most.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:27 am ET

Stu, did y get your beauty rest lol

Bye Patty have a great day IHUG hags rule

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 11:29 am ET

Ooooohhh,yes.But ia am so tired of this muscle pain,i could sleap all day.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:29 am ET

I agree. Like our mothers taught us – if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:29 am ET

Hag Hug Judie Yes hags Rule!!! See you tonight but not till after ten. I work till ten IGYH LOL

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:30 am ET

OHwow I didn't see you Stu. HI Stu bye Stu

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:30 am ET

Good evening everyone 🙂 🙂

This is i'm hoping and praying for.. to seek justice for our Michael..

Everyday is good news.. I'm really happy that they're making big progress..

Dr. Murray had Applied Pharmacy send Propofol by Fed Ex to the address of Nicole Alvarez, the mother of the doctor's 7th child.
He is a conman...
later.. we will know the who's the BOSS!!!!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:30 am ET

Don't even get me started on Diane...

I refuse to diginfy that with an answer because I can not even go there.

But yes, I share the same sentiment about her.

That interview also hurt him, he felt betrayed by her and regreted doing that interview with her afterward.

Sort of like how the Martin bashier thing back fired on him..

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 11:32 am ET

MourningMJ October 3rd, 2009 10:31 am ET

Add to that the fact that jermaine hates TMZ and the confusion is total...

mytake   October 3rd, 2009 11:32 am ET

Nothing about this doctor and his girlfriend surprises me. I've already posted weeks ago that I felt that the girlfriend was involved in this and more than just Propofol being delivered to her house where the doctor lived.

Her house should have been searched the same day all this happened. I'll bet more than Propofol would've been found there, in reference to Michael, i.e., money and jewelry...etc...but it's not there now.

Céline - FR   October 3rd, 2009 11:33 am ET

Hi Unbreakable

I agree with you
....and it all started with Oprah's interview

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:34 am ET

Look to the fact that the Weather is changing.. 🙂 🙂

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:34 am ET

I think Diane decided she didn't like Michael and that was that. she accused him of making a fascist film (yeah, right, Mike the fascist) and she probably didn't get the metaphor in 'They Don't Really Care About Us' either. Even after they were divorced she was very unprofessional about Michael when she interviewed LMP.

Like I said, I miss the days when the most important rule for journalists was objectivity.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:36 am ET

The man who called 911 is Alvarez.. relatives of Dr. Murray's girlfriend
Nicole Alvarez.. What a coincidence?????

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 11:37 am ET

I have not been able to move on from Michael Jackson's death at all because I am stuck mourning how cruelly he was treated in this life and how completely misunderstood he was. I do not think I will ever get over it. I cry nearly every day. I have had parents and close people die but I have never been so affected by someone else's death like this. It is like this huge tragedy happened over the last 15 years and it was caused by an entire nation the media and the justice system torturing an innocent man and they are still doing it after his death.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 11:37 am ET

mariau – yes, I feel a change in the wind too. can't wait for brighter days.. at least brighter than now. I'd like to have 2008 brightness, but we can't go back

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:39 am ET

Mary RM – yes.. i smell justice near to come 🙂 🙂 what a lovely day?? right??

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:41 am ET

Hi mariau,

I think we are gonna hear more and more about who is related to who as this case goes on.

Too many names matching up...

chris   October 3rd, 2009 11:42 am ET

@ Unbreakable
I agree whole-heartedly with you regarding Oprah. I don't watch her show and I will continue not to turn the channel. That virgin question posed to MJ was way out of line- just utterly disrespectful.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 11:43 am ET

@MaryRM and @ Unbreakable

Diane Sawyer's excuse not to ask "the question" of Michael was that she had gone to school and worked too hard for her journalism degree and profession and that she thought the question beneath her. But my take on it was that she used the street people to interview Michael and I thought well, you do approve what eventually goes on this show and you allowed it ... so you are just tabloid journalism, too.

I have more to rant on this subject, but I have to w/ ya'll later.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 11:45 am ET

Michael trusted the wrong people.

He was warned about Martin Bashier, but wanted to clear his image so bad he went ahead and did it anyway.

he trusted MB because he did an interview with Princess Diana years before.

Many advised him not to...


Trust me on this though...

Michael knew what he was doing 98% of the time. Do not believe the rubbsih you hear about people controling him.

Michael was a skilled planner.

Some of his plans may have back fired, but that does not mean he did not know what he was doing.

Michael knew the folks he could not trust, for the most part, but sometimes there was little he could do to stop things.

when you surround yourself with so many people as he did, you have to expect that someone is there for thier own reasons.

MJ did not trust Tohme...But Jermaine insisted on this man.

MJ called several of his close friends, people he trusted , to get advice.

Two weeks before he died, MJ fired Tohme..

adn this upset him, greatly.

Mj was no fool, he tried to weed out the bad and keep the good. He really did.

But many stabbed him in the back. To this day, they are still doing it.

But do not let the media fool you into thinking he was being controled. because MJ always pulled the strings.

He was very wise...

we all know the saying..

"keep your friends close and your enemies closer"

I must go for now..

I will resume later on.

Take care everyone..Even you Judie, the one who thinks I am a traitor and can not be trusted, even though I have not done anything to prove oehterwise.


mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:45 am ET

hi Judie.. how are you sweety?? yes.. we've been patient for almost 3 months now.. so we hope they will continue their excellent jobs..


Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:46 am ET

Mary RM&Mariau-
YES-things are going to start happening.I've felt it for the past few days.

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 11:47 am ET


Jermaine does not like TMZ? I haven't heard of that. He just spoke with TMZ 2 weeks ago when he was house shopping in CA. Well, like Judie, said in her 11:41 post, who can keep up with faces, places and spaces. Too much. The good news is, is that Michael's family has said nothing but absolutely loving things about Michael since he's passed (and well before that too). I think the Jackson Family is underrated. Just sayin'.

ihmj xoxo

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:49 am ET

Victoria J,

I agree I saw that with Diane what a cover up, the fans wanna know give me a break.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 11:49 am ET

The problem was MJ did not understand that the image he was creating of himself in the media could destroy him. He was too naive and innocent to see the danger.

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 11:49 am ET


Judie- I read our posts regarding the security tapes. I myself have not heard any new development regarding the tapes but it only makes sense that if there is critical evidence on these tapes they are under seal. Who knows, though- maybe the tapes are just a bunch of hags sittin' around bloggin' too. ihmj xoxo

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 11:49 am ET

So Dr Quack's baby mama is now the 'mule' lol!Well I knew that his girlfriend was somehow connected given that she was said to be not telling the 'whole' truth and also her beloved murderer of a boyfriend fled to her place after Michael was pronounced dead!

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:50 am ET

sandy-Houston – yes.. things will be different.. God never let MJ down...
our hopes and prayers is very powerful than the media bashing.. keep hoping.. and everything will be served properly.. 🙂

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:54 am ET

hi Samantha how are you?

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray's baby mama will testify before the L.A. County Grand Jury tomorrow at 11:00 AM.

Nicole Alvarez, the mother of Dr. Murray's 7th child, has not been cooperative with LAPD detectives. We have already reported that we have heard Dr. Murray was living with Alvarez during the time he was supposedly staying with Jackson.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:54 am ET

mmj lol hags rule though we know what we know and we know it.
As our friend Lori would say....

HI Samantha

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 11:56 am ET

Hey Judie & Mariau

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 11:56 am ET

Hi everybody in the blog....howz ya saturday ?? 🙂 🙂

Are you still in here or you're taking a break ??? :)....Had such sweet dreams last night about the .......SEE RED- LEATHER PANTS !!! 🙂 🙂


That was always my question...where is the survaillance tape which disappeared the day MJ died in the house ??? I just pray its lying somewhere and it will appear at the trial if we happen to see one....


I have to agree with you that Oprah's interview with MJ always made me believe it did something negative to MJ.......can you imagine some of those questions she asked him like " Why do you always grap your crouch ??". I just felt some of those where just so embarassing to MJ and making him more a victim of those who thought he was always weird.

chris   October 3rd, 2009 11:58 am ET

@ Anne,
I understand how you are feeling because I'm at that point, too. Michael's death has affected me more than the deaths of my own family members. My daughter has commented that she's never seen me cry so much in the last few months. In the past, I've tried – tried, to hide crying from her because I wanted to model being a "strong" person. But sometimes I just can't control it.
I believe most of all that his death is so painful because he was so unfairly portrayed and cruelly stomped on and kicked about by so many people. How could such a good person of love be vilified like that?

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 11:59 am ET


Morning nice to see you I hardly ever get to chat with you.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 11:59 am ET

cocovelvet- hi 🙂 too jealous about your dream.. 😦

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:01 pm ET


I'm replying to your message from way above.Yeah the mass protest is a great idea!In fact no only should there be a protest in Washington but all around the world as there are millions of fans out there!!!!

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 12:03 pm ET

Chris Someone said it is like watching a bully beat a small child to death in a school yard and everybody watched it and did nothing. I just hope something really positive comes out of it like his reputation is restored by some miracle. Maybe his film will get an Oscar for best soundtrack.

The fact that Murray had the propofol sent to his GF's home is really significant in terms of charging him with manslaughter because he wasn't just the guy who administered an ongoing treatment, he was the guy who was prescribing the treatment and obtaining the drug. This digs the hole deeper for him.

If Murray were sitting in jail right now, I would not feel better because MJ is gone forever but maybe the media would stop bashing him if there is a conviction.

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 12:04 pm ET

MourningMJ October 3rd, 2009 11:47 am ET

I will see if I can find you some clip when he shows his opinion for TMZ. I have seen at least 2 this august or september. Just cant remember where. "Where he said TMZ never get their records straight"

Underrated or not, what I think people need to understand is that it is a HUGE family. And it contains all sorts of people, as in all families but particulary in big families. The jackson family contains, superstars, loving and caring people, domestic abusers, prisoners, single mothers, infidelity, couples that have been married over 25 years. You got everything in there.

So when poeple pass judgement on the family, good ones or bad ones they are reflections of hteir own minds. The next generation of jacksons is approaching 30 years old and Michaels youngest sister is 35 so I am sure the diversity are huge both in body and soul.

Only those who has a personal relation to the (whole) family can really know how they are.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 12:04 pm ET

Hello again girls 🙂
Hi Coco!! 🙂

I just wanted to read u, seeing if there is something new.
Hear u later

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:05 pm ET

– the crotch grabbing – ha ha I remember those days. OMG – when he first started doing things on videos we would ALL be shocked and everyone would talk about it the next day – DID YOU SEE WHAT MJ JUST DID ON HIS NEW VIDEO?!!!1

he really pushed the envelope in those days. My daughters tell me that his moves are really mild compared to what performers do now but back in the day it was shocking – it was especially shocking because sweet, clean, deeply religious Michael Jackson did it! Everyone was asking what is he doing and why is he doing it? so Oprah asked. I am not offended by that particular question, I just laugh when I think about those days....

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:06 pm ET

Best soundtrack would be good. best documentary, even though the oscar would go to other people, that would be good too.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 12:06 pm ET

I think MJ's distance from his family as an adult speaks volumes.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:07 pm ET

I think Hollywood OWES Michael – big time for their abandonment of him

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:07 pm ET

samantha and irene – yes.. it's good idea.. a mass protest from all around the world..

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:09 pm ET


Are you on facebook?

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:11 pm ET



mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:12 pm ET

Mary RM – yes.. that time was so shocking when MJ grabed his crotch.. hahaha 🙂 🙂 i still remember when my mom asked me about MJ.. look at him.. why he's grabing his crotch???
that's why he was an innovator.. a great perfomer.. and a hot sexy dancer..

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:15 pm ET


lol yes he was.....

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:16 pm ET

samantha yes.. i'm in Michael Jackson fans tribute las vegas.. you can add me from there

chris   October 3rd, 2009 12:17 pm ET

@Anne & MaryRM
Yes... let's hope that there will be an Oscar for best soundtrack!

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the L.A. County Coroner and the LAPD are not buying Dr. Conrad Murray's story that he gave Michael Jackson a relatively low dosage of Propofol before he died.

Sources say the L.A. County Coroner has determined Michael Jackson died from a lethal level of Propofol. There were "traces" of other drugs in Jackson's system, but nothing that would have killed him

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:18 pm ET

mariau – good times, good days. I am so happy that I got to live through those days and can remember them instead of read about them. Remember the atmosphere of those days, the emotions, the discussions, the fun of those days. I wouldn't want to be one day younger than I am, I really mean that

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:19 pm ET

judie – 😀 😀

coco – yes.. i stick in his gold pants ever 😀 😀

samantha – please add me my email

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:20 pm ET

what about The way You Make Me Feel? what he did in that – we almost passed out at that one 🙂

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:21 pm ET

Mary RM – i think our generation was the luckiest ever!!! because it's started everything.. we've had lots of fun during our teens life.. the thriller jacket.. i still have it.. hahaha

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Even Eddie Murphy wore a Beat It jacket – I remember his stand-up in around 1984. Michael was the absolute leader in music.... and in fashion!

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Samantha and Irene,

I am the next to second your motion of a mass demo.......for MJ I will jump to that I tell you, even to go to lengths to join whichever crowd anywhere in the world....... and just let them drag their feet probably if they are until next year 25th June with the investigations....then the world will see somethingelse...... we are just getting killed by this impatience to see something happening.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 12:23 pm ET

hi everyone
I share your feelings for interviewers like Diane Sawyer and Oprah. Journalists like them do more harm than any tabloid because their audiences take them seriously and other journalists follow suit.

YouTube has a lot of Michael's interviews from the days before Oprah – yes, her claim that he had not been giving any interviews for 14 years is a lie. It's amazing to see how respectful these interviews are and how these journalists are just awed to be there talking to this amazing man-legend.

I don't know why and how it changed but I think it's a problem of our whole society. Sensationalism is.
It's a disease of our society. To answer where it all started would be a chicken-and-egg story – they write it because they think we want to read it, we read it because they write it...

Somehow a belief has emerged that we as a society are entitled to know every private detail about the people who share their talents with us.
We need to say No to this.

We need to shut our minds and our doors to rumors and private details that should not concern us.

We need to let the media know that we are not interested in cheap sensations obtained through trespassing on other people's lives.

A few months ago I created the Facebook cause "Heart Behind The Pen" to fight sensationalism, unethical journalism and invasion of privacy.

It's great to see people are actively boycotting shows like Oprah's, Diane Sawyer and ABC's Nightline, sending letters to journalists and signing petitions.

We can make a change and I think we will.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 12:24 pm ET

Someone metioned that they thought it strange that no one from the hospital had spoken up about Michael being there. Well they can't. I went to the hospital via emergency room. I have family members in the medical field and one of them was there when with me the whole time I was being treated. But she kept getting calls from other family to see if I was really there. She could not tell our own family members I was there until I said she could. She kept telling them she couldn't say anything because of HIPA.

chris   October 3rd, 2009 12:25 pm ET

@ Iva,
Thanks for posting that interview of the former Sony executives and producers: Cory Rooney and Chris Apposso(?).

It needs to be heard, especially the part where Chris A. emphatically states that he believes Michael "got blackmailed in that whole scandal thing".

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:25 pm ET

yes... The way you make me feel.. i can't stop smiling .. when i remember those times.. hahaha.. 🙂 🙂 MY first dance to my first crush to the tune of PYT.. PRETTY YOUNG THING 😀

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:25 pm ET

@ Anne,
you are RIGHT on the money with yur statement about the family.

And the fact that MJ disliked and dis trusted Tohme as much as he did, yet was standing next to Jermaine and the press confrence on the day he died..( i saw it with my own eyes) that speaks volumes.

Open your minds on the family...Some are not as great as some may think they are.

In ever family there i termoil, jelousy,love,betrayal.

Just keep all that in mind.

I could also spin all this as to proof MJ is still alive..

I think we all need to sit back and enjoy the show..

(and by that I do not mean that MJ death is some sort of entertainment, by that I mean many people are giving us a show by what they do/ it all unfold, that is all I am saying)

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 12:27 pm ET

good morning **mj**
how are you today ?

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:28 pm ET


I just sent you a message to your address.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Mila – you're right and i agree with you.. well said..

I don’t know why and how it changed but I think it’s a problem of our whole society. Sensationalism is.
It’s a disease of our society. To answer where it all started would be a chicken-and-egg story – they write it because they think we want to read it, we read it because they write it…

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Here's the reality. It takes approximately 400 milligrams of Propofol for someone of Jackson's body size to sleep 8 hours - that's 16 times the amount Dr. Murray says he gave Jackson the day he died.

Our law enforcement sources simply do not believe that 25 milligrams would have in any way compromised Michael Jackson, especially since he had developed a tolerance to a much higher level.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Spencer Tracy was separated but not divorced from his wife (they were Catholic) and he lived with Katherine Hepburn for years. Everyone in Hollywood knew it and so did the journalists, yet no one printed the stories.

Everyone in Hollywood knew Rock Hudson was gay but no one printed the stories until he was dying of AIDS.

There was a time when even true scandals were left unprinted because they were no one's business except for those directly involved.

We've become a society of peeping toms. It is disgusting that anyone who enjoys these types of stories but alot of people take pleasure in other people's pain.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET


I just call those years of the Thriller and Off the Wall "the golden days".......the boogie times !!!

I remember being the only girl in a dance club in our city and doing that moonwalk...... even today people who still remember me from those times always tell me i still have those moves at my 40s. I tell you I will be sneaking out without my parents knowing to go perform ...... the great end 70s and early 80s.... 🙂 🙂

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:30 pm ET


Yeah i couldn't agree any better with you!Cory Rooney & Chris Apostle should go on a talk show and set the record straight once and for all!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:31 pm ET

@ Maria,
yes, that is true, but you are not Michael Jackson.

What I mean by that is this..

There are a lot of people out there who would do ANYTHING for just 15 minutes of fame, and we all know this to be true.

So when someone as HUGE as Michael Jackson comes strolling into your ER dead, you do not think someone, anyone would be willing to even make an annymous call to LK to say they were there and say everything unfold?

I find it hard to believe no one would NOT do that

just one...

So the fact of the HIPA law really does not apply to people who want 15 minutes of fame..

Even a housekeeper, janitor, no one will admit he was there.


I think so

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:33 pm ET

Uncle Arnie has been very quiet lately hmmmm

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:34 pm ET


At least you could pull off the moonwalk,unfortunately I can't say the same for myself lol as I've failed miserably!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Yes, yes Yes he has............

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:37 pm ET


The mere mention of that douche bag just makes me squirm!!!

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Speaking of moonwalk. I was at summer camp once and heard the kids talking about how Michael had done the moon walk and they were all trying to learn how to do it. They didn't believe I could until I got up and did it. I was popular after that.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Samantha, I'm with you my sons could do it but they wouldn't teach me, I still try to this day, my left foot wont follow the right foot.

Two left feet mabey?

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:39 pm ET

@ Sam,
I could not agree more.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 12:40 pm ET

Hi guys

mariau you forgot to leave me your FB name so I can add you....

Hi Judie BBFF

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:40 pm ET

@Maria G

Lol,can you give me some tuition?

chris   October 3rd, 2009 12:40 pm ET

Let's everyone continue to keep MJ's legacy shine brightly and in honour. As a teacher, I do this in a subtle way by often having my primary students warm up in gym class (running, galloping, skipping) to Michael's music.
It was heart-warming the other day when I looked up in class to see two of the little boys moving around and saying: "Look, we're showing the others how to moonwalk like Michael Jackson."

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:40 pm ET

Samantha – South Africa LOL LOL 🙂

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:41 pm ET

"When the world is on your shoulders, You have to straighten up your act and boogie down"

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:42 pm ET

Mara bbff hangover lol

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 12:43 pm ET

Maria G

When I took my car in for an oil change the guys there started bumping my Dont Stop Til You Get Enough CD and they was puttin it down. Michael touched many decades with his music. If I'm in my 40's (but fly) and they are only 18 well that says it all...His music is timeless...

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:45 pm ET

MJ’s legacy shine brightly and in honour it already has....

mytake   October 3rd, 2009 12:45 pm ET


I just listened to all those YouTube tapings of the Executive Producers of Sony talking about their relationship with Michael.

Thanks for posting.

It was very interesting, though not surprising of the things they said.

Michael was always genuine and people who knew him well and who knew that he was this wonderful person should be more outspoken to tell the NICE things about him, instead of trying to make a dollar.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:47 pm ET

Judie – don't worry uncle ernie is packing his things so when the right time comes he is well ready to go in jail.. 🙂

samantha – i add you in FB

chris - we will continue and we will past it on to the next generation

Mara – hi sweety 🙂

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:48 pm ET

Cocovelvet – I was never able to do the moonwalk, I danced alot during the disco days, the hustle and all that but not once did my feet and legs get it right! I remember standing in a circle with my friends, all of us trying to figure it out. I never even came close!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:48 pm ET

@ Mytake,
Yes, you would think that wouldn't you?

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:49 pm ET


I've just accepted your invite.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 12:49 pm ET

@ Ms. Judie:

The correct quote is:

IHYG my BBFFL and IKYLMM %@%%9(( )) - I'll be watching you...


Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 12:49 pm ET


........I'm happy I can still figure out moonwalking, even though a bit slower due to age you know.......that time i was really flexible and could really stretch it in pretty fast slides, my 17 year old daughter has taken it over.....she masters it like hell, and I get my refresh lessons from her... 🙂

So, this stripper gal of Murray had a reason giving the authorities a hard time to be interviewed last time???...... it was quite obvious she was hiding something ofcourse. I think she is getting nutty now with her involvement mixed with the fact that Dr. Death won't be able to support the child like they were dreaming with the bucks he was gonna earn during the tour.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:50 pm ET

Mara – i will add from our group FB vegas fans

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 12:51 pm ET


Whenever I hear Don't Stop Till You Get Enough,I get the sudden urge to boogie down!!!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 12:52 pm ET

@ Mary,
Learning the moonwalk is hard isn't it? I was never able to catch on to it either, and I one of the best teachers try and show me..

They were very unsuccesful.


MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:53 pm ET

cocovelvet – "Dr. Death won’t be able to support the child like they were dreaming with the bucks he was gonna earn during the tour."

that statement sickens me. I am not in a good enough place to read that today so I" just put on a DVD for a while. I love film, it is like a time machine.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:54 pm ET

samantha thanks 🙂

mara – accept me too 🙂

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:54 pm ET


IHYG my BBFFL and IKYLMM %@%%9(( )) — I’ll be watching you…

You better be....

I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND I KNOW IT TO BE SO how did I screw that one up..... lol

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:56 pm ET

Mara – you're hot and sexy...

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 12:57 pm ET

Just put on The way you make me feel from the History DVD. I love the way Michael's eyes shine in this 🙂

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 12:58 pm ET

Ladies....I'm gonna rush out for dinner and I join you later. Its so great in here today, can't afford to miss a second away from this blog....... keep those great vibes for me ...... 🙂

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 12:59 pm ET

hi everyone

on for a little while

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 12:59 pm ET


we know what we know and we know it LOL LOL

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 12:59 pm ET

coco – 🙂 have a nice dinner

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 1:01 pm ET

Bye COCO have a good one we will miss you...

Hey Linda bbff

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:01 pm ET

did you guys read jan's post from the other day-i just read it-very upsetting–

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:03 pm ET

hi judie -just call me the one hand blogger

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:03 pm ET

Hi sweety Linda from new york thanks God you're here 🙂 🙂

what about that Jan's post last night?

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 1:05 pm ET

I didn't Linda tell us...

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Mary RM
I read online yesterday that the deadline for documentaries to be submitted for consideration for an Oscar was Aug 31 with an emergency extension of 30 days. But that It could be considered for other categories including best sound track. Other films have a Dec. deadline.

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:05 pm ET


You know what disappointed me the most is that these greedy schmucks knew about Michael's problem yet they chose to overlook it and because of this,Michael was pushed over the edge!!!

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 1:06 pm ET


I just accepted it. You are too! =)

Samantha-South Africa

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is like the backyard boogie song it makes us all get our swurve on.

Lori JFM

How are we going on our hag field trip tonight if you will be partying up for an early Birthday celebration???

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:09 pm ET

Mara – i love this..

Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough is like the backyard boogie song it makes us all get our swurve on.

mytake   October 3rd, 2009 1:10 pm ET


I've been waiting for it to happen and no one has stepped up yet.

I can say that maybe, they are waiting to see what happens in the legal case against Murray, but why wait?

I know that some of them have quotes in magazines, but how many people have gone out and bought those magazines.

Where is the TELEVISION BROADCAST, with nothing but memories from all the CELEBRITIES that came in contact with MICHAEL or was influenced by him?

Surely, someone could have thought of something in 3 months and counting.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:10 pm ET

did you read it
there are several mentions on there by fans who Michael knew personally–that saw Michael just days prior to his death ==and they say that he did not look well enough to be going on tour–Remember the camera adds 10-pounds so the Michael that we see on screen was even thinner in person.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Someone said MJ's legacy will either be his music or scandal so you are right we need to do our part to make it positive and be about his music.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Samantha – South Africa–Wish I could. LOL but my some of my family is in the medical field not me. And let me reword this : the camps I manage to attend in the summers were paid for by car washes and bake sales. But I was still popular non the less. LOL !!

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:12 pm ET


I've given up with most people in the music industry as most of 'em are just a bunch of hypocrites!

mytake   October 3rd, 2009 1:12 pm ET

I have to leave the blog. I'll check back later for what's up in here.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 1:13 pm ET

I get it now Lori no response ihug just watching ...

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Guys-You have to read this-there is alot more–I can't type that much--

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:13 pm ET


Yes,in fact there's also a separate one regarding the THIS IS IT movie.I'll post it on the Vegas tribute if you want because I posted it here 2 days ago and it disappeared!

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 1:14 pm ET

I do have one queston, why if the EMT's were working on Michael in the ambulance on the way to the hospital was the gurney in an upright position when it arrived at the emergency entrance?

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 1:15 pm ET

Where is a link to the Las Vegas site?

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 1:15 pm ET

Don't worry. Jaxers. I will be by a computer by kickoff time. So late night crew do not despair. ((*&*&))

I need to get going soon or I will be late to my own party.

Everyone, play nice. Keep the bloggy positive. We need to figure it all out. LA PD might need our help. If you see GENE, tell him to come back to the bloggy- we need and miss him.

Be careful – you just never know who may be watching you...

Keep your MIND, as well as your eyes and ears open. 🙂


mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:16 pm ET

Linda – but Even MJ was skinny it doesn't mean he was not healthy..

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:17 pm ET

@Maria G

Looks like I've to wait to see Mike on the other side one day and ask him to teach me those moves lol!

Oh and the Vegas tribute is a group on facebook.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:19 pm ET

Linda – being skinny in USA is a trends, so no doubt if everyone is size zero.. it doesn't they're all sick...

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 1:19 pm ET

Lori JFM

(((((((((((((((((((((((HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY))))))))))))))))))))))

Just be there for our "field trip". I'll hold your hand. Legs crossed!

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:19 pm ET


I've seen the pictures that was posted today by the fans and Michael's friends and I hate to admit it coz I wish it weren't true but judging from the photos,Michael looked really thin,thinner than usual in fact!

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 1:20 pm ET

@LISA S 12:04

I believe you, Lisa, you have never given me a reason not to. I simply look at it as Jermaine is getting way too much backlash from behaviors that were demonstrated way back in the early '90's. It's no secret that MJ and Jermaine were not very nice to each other. But, clearly, the air was cleared many years ago as exampled by Jermaine's support to Michael during the allegations, his current tour and many other endeavors and projects. I agree with you- The Jackson Family is a mixed bag from global entertainers to less than welcome hanger-ons. But, it's THIER family and Michael has NEVER publicly complained about his siblings or other family members; excluding Joseph of course. But often Michael quickly offers an apology for airing Joe's dirty laundry and then builds him up again. Clearly a result of guilt on Michael's part- not quite sure why- he never needed to offer an apology because he was an abused child. I'm sure there are many many more secrets that Michael took to the grave with him....
ihmj xoxo

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:21 pm ET

they are saying he looked like he was anorexic–beyond skinny-Michael was always thin–but not like that–they mention that he was wearing a red jacket and you could have wrapped the jacket around him–i am saying the people around him saw this and did nothing–

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:22 pm ET

samantha – can you show me that link please

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:22 pm ET


I'll email you the pictures that I saw today and you tell me if I'm seeing wrong.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 1:22 pm ET


Especially in Hollywood. Here in Sin City they live and breath for "lettuce" and to be a size 1.

It's ridiculous but sad to say it's true.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 1:23 pm ET

Lori have a nice party (((((((((((((((( h-b early.. ihug ..b-day hug ))))))))))))

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:24 pm ET

linda – really? anorexic how come? i'm dont understand what about Chef kay she said MJ was eating..

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:24 pm ET


It is a trend to be skinny in the US but not for Men–Michael should have been taken care of by his handlers not pushed on stage for a tour.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 1:25 pm ET

Go to Nancy Milnik's Facebook–it is open to anyone. She has tons of HAPPY pics of Michael and also children just having fun with friends. REFRESHING!!! Thank you Nancy!!

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:27 pm ET

mara – i've heard and wathced that most americans prefered to be size zero..
but i'm confused how MJ's looks? they said he was too skinny.. as in skinny???

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:29 pm ET

that chef–was on AEG's payroll-she would say anything.

After Michael's death I was so devasted, I was happy when they showed him rehearsing at staples center, I noticed then that he looked thin but I didn't pay that much attention because like I said I was so happy to see him doing his thing on stage. I thought he looked thin but didn't remember that he camera adds 10-pounds so he was even thinner in person.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 1:29 pm ET

MJ looked too skinny to be healthy to me. I looked at him and thought he should be in a hospital with TPN! But he died from IV propofol – it was a homocide. He did not die from being underweight. This may be a defense on Murray's part that MJ was underweight and that is why they leaked the autopsy to show that was not the cause nor were any other drugs. They want the focus to be on Murray not on blaming MJ for his own death because he was too thin.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 1:30 pm ET

Anne October 3rd, 2009 1:05 pm ET
that's a dumb rule, August? well, then it could win for soundtrack in 2010 and best documentary in 2011. that would be a first – oh yeah, but we are talking about Michael here and he was all about firsts 🙂

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 1:30 pm ET

Linda from NY-
If you look at one of his concert pics from 1996-97, I think the History tour. He's in those gold pants. And then compare it from a pic from the This Is It rehearsal...he's in the red jeans. You will see how skinny and unhealthy he was at the time of his death. It is disturbing. I don't care what anyone says. Pictures speak a thousand words.

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:31 pm ET

Also,I never thought about this until now.Michael used to spend 10 hours a day at rehearsals and Dr Quack was NEVER present during these times so what the hell did AEG think they were paying him for????

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 1:32 pm ET

Dear bloggy friends, I am gonna says this again.....

Do not believe what you hear/read/see without corraborating statements. For every report that says THIS there is another that says THAT and the 2 statements are opposite. Nothing about this case has been straightforward. Everyone is operating on heresay, speculation, and lies. The leaks are happening so reularly that they feel like they are controlled and scheduled. The FACTS seem to be in short suppy.

"Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV (computer) screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable"

Eyes, Ears, and MIND –keep them all OPEN. 🙂

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:33 pm ET

Linda – in my opinion Michael was not pushed to do his concerts.. we all knew that MJ had financial problem to think he wanted to settle all this things.. secondly, Michael had children and he had lots of plans for their future.
i think Michael was decided to do this concert for the last and be settled.

what i really dont understand is about MJ financial situation. i dont believe that he handled his money wrongfully..
maybe, that's why its conspiracy.. i dont understand how could this things happened to MJ.. with lots of debts and couldn't even buy his own house..

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:34 pm ET

I didn't say he died from being underweight. I am not an idiot. How can this be a defense of Murray's part? All i am saying is that instead of preparing for a tour- it would have been better for Michael to take of himself first.

didi   October 3rd, 2009 1:34 pm ET

liked the blog:) gives u a lot of information ! thanks ...

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:36 pm ET


Mara   October 3rd, 2009 1:36 pm ET


You are going to be late for your own party!! IHUG

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Lori – very well said.. i gree with you

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:41 pm ET


Maybe is missed something–did you know Michael

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:41 pm ET

The bottom line is that we'll never know what really happened until all has been revealed but if there's anything I've learnt,its that not is all what it seems and I for one,believe that there is indeed more to This is It then the 'masquerade' that Sony is trying to pull off!!!I guess we all differ in our opinions but nevertheless,we all have one thing in common and that is to seek REAL truth!!!

Anyways,I'm off for now and might be back later!

"Truth always Prevails!
First They Ignore you ....
Then they laugh at you ....
Then they fight you ....
Then you win."

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 1:41 pm ET

I think,he look anorexik in the trailer too.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 1:43 pm ET

I'm sorry I did not mean to imply that at all. My post was not directed at you just my own thoughts.

But that is one thing the DA is looking at. Whether or not his health contributed to his death. Murray and his camp had been going on tv saying that he was frail and sickly for a reason. They want to create this idea that he died because he was too thin. They may use this as a defense.

MJ being a perfectionist caused him to put a lot of pressure on himself. And his appetite was the first thing to go.

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Unbreakable,did you know Michael?You sound like that.Would be nice to hear about Michael from somebody,who knew hem.

Samantha - South Africa   October 3rd, 2009 1:49 pm ET


I saw the pics that Grace were tagged in on facebook and the rest but those pics are from when Blanket was still a baby and dates back to 2002/2003.Also,some scumbag stole them some time back from facebook and forwarded it to all the magazines thus answering why Michael's kids were on the front page of tabloids with the caption "Never before seen pics" in June/July.

Bye All!

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:49 pm ET

hi Stu
He does–
Do you know hard it was for me to admit it to myself that he did not look well–I adored Michael Jackson-and it hurts to admit it. I am not saying that I believe anything that anyone wrote–but I can see for myself that he was way to thin. I am not saying it was due to anything except health issues.I don't know anymore than any one here because I don't.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 1:50 pm ET

samantha – very good point.. and you're right

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Anne But that is one thing the DA is looking at. Whether or not his health contributed to his death. Murray and his camp had been going on tv saying that he was frail and sickly for a reason. They want to create this idea that he died because he was too thin. They may use this as a defense.


I don't see how that would be good for the defends. The doctor noticed Michael was to frail and sickly then he should have never given Michael the medication or the doctor should have adjusted the medication to suit Michael condition.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:52 pm ET

I understand–I didn't know that about Murray's team. If that is part of their defense–I feel sorry for them–the world knows what Michael died from–

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 1:53 pm ET

I will be ohnest with everybody.I am tired of talking the same things over and over again after more then 3 months.I realy would like hear facts.A agree with Unbreakable.There are somany things in this storie wrong,thats why peaples thinking,maybe he is not dead,but if he is a life,i am sure,he would not wrighd on this blog,that its hem,and he is a life.I think,if by some miricle he is a life,and disapired,then he disapired forever,and we never will know.Jus keap hem in our heart,thats the best we can doo.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:55 pm ET

I don't watch those shows–was not aware that Murray's team had been saying this–Right now they will say anything-They know he killed Michael

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 1:57 pm ET

Linda,he was alvais thin,but now he was half of hem self,and probebly thats why peaples thoughd,it was not hem at the announcement in march.It was hem,now i see for sure,couse he looked the same at the rehearsel,just hes face was so thin too,it changed hes face.So sad.What i think,after all the trauble,he had,probebly hes nurwes couldnt take it anymore,and thats whay he was this thin.I think,it was more mental problem then phisical.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 1:57 pm ET


You're right we do. But I'm not and I think I'm healthy for my height. But alot of people do live and breathe to be a size 0. Look at the magazines and how they idolize women that are sticks. The magazines like to dictate what size is beautiful and what size isn't. It's up to you (us) to live by that or not. In the area I live women eat lettuce and drink water and spend half of the day at the gym. Me, I like to eat A-5 Kobe steaks and foie gras. Which is high in fat but who cares.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 1:57 pm ET

yes Stu
you get so many versions of everything-I guess it is best to just ignore like Michael said.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 1:57 pm ET

Stu and Unbrekable,
This is what I think – many things can seem weird until you know all the facts and reasons.

It seems weird to fake your own death.
But it's also weird to die of cardiac arrest in the hands of your own cardiologist.

When we know all the facts things will stop seeming weird.

I choose to believe he's alive.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:00 pm ET

I will say this about his weight, and maybe it will put your mind at ease Linda.

Michael was thin, I said that..I said he was not frail..There is a difference bewteen being frail and being thin.

Micheal was not a big eater, which concerened many people. But this was nothing new. He had been that way since he was a child.

You must understand he was rehearsing around 16 hours a day some days..which caused his weight to plumit a bit.

He did not have protruding bones or anything of the sort.

And truthfully if he lived to see the concerts, if his eating habits would have continued as they had been, he would have fallen very ill..because you can not perform that way night after night without the right nurtrtion.

Michael was thin..yes...



he felt that eating healthy would make him stronger for his shows, thats why he hired a nutriionist to get him on the right track.

Remember though, Michael knew his own body and would not let himself get frail like that..


Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 2:02 pm ET

Mila.Thats why i agree wit Unbreakable.This can not be exident.Or he killed hem,or he is a life,and disapired forever.Maybe he realysied,he cant doo 50 shows,and thats why.But here is the question,thet somebody posted on the other blog.Then who body was the dead body,and how got in a dead body sistem propofol?Its inpossible.Olso the dr,who was make the autophsy,didnt see,that is not Michael,the bigest entertainer on Earth?I think,he is gon.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:02 pm ET

hi mara
women starve themselves to death in the US-if you blow they will drop. LOL–I work in Manattan so I see these women all day long–and during Fashion Week–you should see–their legs are like sticks

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 2:04 pm ET

After all the talk on tv early on (way before we or even Murray knew the autopsy would show propofol as the cause of death), I remember being shocked to see the video of MJ rehearsing at Staples center. They had created this image of a frail sickly old man who was bedridden . Someone even said he had bedsores! They did quite a convincing job of making it seem like he was ill. And there he was on stage dancing in rehearsals!

From the beginning Murray's lawyer was trying to convince the public and the potential jury pool MJ died because of his poor health. Then we get an autopsy report this week saying he was healthy for a 50 year old. This is important because it is very damaging to Murray's defense. I hope this autopsy report is 100% accurate.

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:04 pm ET

I already knew this that the death ceritifcate was a fake... Michaels real name is Michael Joe Jackson.... i brought this up once before in the blogs about a month ago....

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 2:05 pm ET


I concur with all of your commentary; starting @ 1:21 p.m.-
Why "didn't" that hag Kia Chase report her concerns to upper management? We do not need an autopsy report (an alleged report at that) –to attempt and faily miserably– convince us that Michael was in an "acceptable weight limit". So.... does that mean us fans are dumb AND blind? Like Lori says "You can't fool the fans"

ihmj xoxo

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Thank you–

you didn't answer my question–did you ever meet Michael?

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 2:06 pm ET

Unbreakable,he was all redy thin like that in march .Pluss,he had other tours in hes life,where he was not this thin.Yes,he was thin all hes life,but now he was even half of that.In 1996 he was look very good.He was look,like he was work out,and got some mosculs,not like frexample at triller much earlier.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:06 pm ET

@ Anne,
you are 100% on target..Bless you.

MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 2:07 pm ET



He occasionally use "joe" to shorten his name- His legal name is Michael Joseph Jackson. I'm sorry to be the one to break the news to you....

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:08 pm ET


LMAO I know right? Here where I live I think I'm an average size and to them I'm OBESE!! It's funny but I just flip that hair of mine and keep on steppin.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:08 pm ET



mariau   October 3rd, 2009 2:11 pm ET

maybe we could just wait and see the movie.. then we can speculate and see the actual facts.. maybe that's why we need to watch this movie..
it's very confusing really... to the fact that MJ is still alive.. to the fact that MJ was Murdered.. and some fans saw MJ was too skinny..
LAPD/ CORONERS OFFICE SAID MJ was healthy before he died..
and the only caused that would killed him was drug propofol..
Kay said he was eating..
That's why sometimes i dont read all things because the more i read the more i'm confused.. it's depends on whose talking..

i'm just waiting the facts from LA PD/CORONERS OFFICES SOURCE
than any other reading materials.
we wanted to save MJ but were too late.. is he alive or murdered???
Is he sick or healthy??
no wonder why sometimes all those news from anywhere doesn't make sense at all.,
for me i'm just focus on MJ's death investigation.. it doesn't matter anymore if he was skinny or not... i focus on one thing here..

WE ALL LOVE MICHAEL JACKSON.. but sometimes we as his fans has different aspect and opinion.. about MJ..

for me.. i've always pray and hope that MJ will have fair justice.. i hope and pray.. that Michael"s legacy will forever live and share it to the next generation.. hoping that they can experience the experienced we had with Michael. To enjoy his music and be part of their memories.. AND THE HISTORY WILL LIVE FOREVER..

i will focus on his death .. i know it's too late.. but still we have hopes.

Barbara   October 3rd, 2009 2:12 pm ET

Hi everyone!

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:12 pm ET

hi mmj–
Of course it was Michael Joseph Jackson-I don't understand

Diane in Minneapolis   October 3rd, 2009 2:12 pm ET

HUGS to my HAGZILLA BFF's erubitu[b u]3ptuut ijrikporpo 09ru 90u9urpoijsdf

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:14 pm ET

Yes in March MJ was very thin, you are right.

The stresses from 2005 really put his body thru the ringer..

He did not like to eat, but he did it.

I think some of the autopsy is right and other parts are bogus..

I can tell you what is bogus..

Michael was not bald..(he had thinning hair, and he had tattooes around the edge of his hair line, to resemble side burns and such)..He DID wear wigs though...When you see him with the straight hair that looks stiff, those are wigs..When his hair is pulled back in a pony and curly..that is his hair..

They made it seem like he was totally bald, but no he was not.

He was aging, and with aging comes hair loss..also from where he had many skin graphs on his scalp, the hair in those areas was pretty sparse.


Mila   October 3rd, 2009 2:15 pm ET

It is said there was a youtube video of Michael talking to his fans in Burbank and telling them that he's not eating well and that he needed to put on weight.
People on this blog have confirmed to have seen this video.

When you look at his rehearsal footage on This Is It trailer it looks like he's got a hole in his stomach.

I don't know where the line between skinny and frail lies but it's easy to agree that he's thinner than ever and he himself has not been happy with that.
Given that there's a whole crew of people around him paid to supposedly take care of him it's not acceptible that he ended up so thin – he had a doctor, he had a personal trainer, he had a nutitionist.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:16 pm ET

And are right his name was Michael Joseph Jackson..

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 2:17 pm ET

Unbreakable,i agree with this too.I realy think,the curly hair is hes hair.It dont look like a wig.

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 2:21 pm ET

Yes,Mila,its true,he had everyb helth help,but hes nurves was demaged after he was got to be drag sy through the mire infornt of the hole world with something,tath he was complitley the oposit.He didnt hurt kids,he loved kids and helped kids,and saved kids.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:21 pm ET

-if you are on FB–can you join the Michael Jackson Las Vegas Fan tribute group-if you do send me a note to let me know it's you.

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 2:22 pm ET

So now you guys say,he death sertificate is not real?Then who is the dead body with propofol in the sistem?Why Murrey is under invastigate?

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 2:22 pm ET

I'm late, I'm late for a very important date.....The White Rabbit has left the building enroute to The Mad Hatter's Tea Party.. if my niece brought her lap top I may chat with you.... until tonight my friends.
ALWAYS remember, WWMJJD?


denise   October 3rd, 2009 2:24 pm ET

mariau - well said..thanks

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:24 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis

Goodmorning IHUG!


I agree with you we talk about the same things over and over again and I really just want to know where we stand with the investigation that is why we "hag" out sometimes maybe it's just from being frustrated at the "silence" of the investigation. But then again their not going to tell us anything so I guess patience is a virtue.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:24 pm ET

I agree with most of what you had to say..although I do not know of any such video, but yes, I do know that MJ knew he needed to put on weight. He wanted to gain muscle..He had very little muscle mass.

All I am telling you is things that I know..I can not vouche for anyone else who claims they heard/saw anything else.

He was NOT frail...

He could walk, dance, sing, joke..a tad slower than he waas 15 years ago of course, but the boy still had moves..

he changed up some of the choregaphy to compinsate for what he knew he would be unable to do night after night..But the dancing was still spot on.

And his voice was AMAZING!

All I am saying is..

he was not frail..

too thin


and I did say if his eating trend continued he would have fallen ill..

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:25 pm ET

Lori-you didn't leave yet


Mila   October 3rd, 2009 2:26 pm ET

I don't think the straight hair was a wig – he wouldn't pose for Ebony or go to his trial in a wig.

I have curly hair and I straighten it and it can tell you it gets to look like a wig pretty easy.

If you look at the pictures from the O2 concert announcement (on mjjpictures dot com) you can see how his hair is ok when they leave the hotel and then it gets kind of messed up in the wind so by the time they reach the stage it does look somewhat like a wig. And then in the evening when he goes to see the Oliver Twist musical it's all pretty again.

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:28 pm ET


That is what I noticed–no muscle mass-None-

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:28 pm ET


You forgot to add your "anyway".... at the end..

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:28 pm ET

Were are new pictures of Dr.Murray????? They keep showing the same ones over & over again???

Jan   October 3rd, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Surely Randy Phillips AEG would have took Murray aside and ask him why MJ was looking so tired and why was he loosing weight? You wouldn't pay someone and have no input with him.

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Good day everybody!

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:30 pm ET

@ Linda,
if I had one..I would

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 2:24 pm ET

He wanted to gain muscle..He had very little muscle mass.


His trianer said he didn't want to gain muscle and they had to exercise very carefully.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 2:30 pm ET

mara and denise - we couldn't changes anything at all .. even MJ was skinny or sick or had cancer.. too much reports and in every reports there's a contradiction..
as i know.. Michael is dead.. he died because of antoxication drugs propofol.. period..
Now we are waiting the justice system to put all the vultures in jail..
Maybe after a year.. we will find out who's the BOSS..


MourningMJ   October 3rd, 2009 2:30 pm ET

@ LINDA- Linda " I will never understand" you know what I'm saying
@ MARA & DIANE: Blogzilla, Jaxson Hagbags! *(&()*&*()&*()&&*()*(&*&(*(*(&*(&*(
(((((((((((((((((((( Michael hugging us )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
@ JUDIE- GOOD LUCK TONIGHT- Give the absentees the heads up!


Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:30 pm ET


I accepted your friend request on FB did you see it?

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:31 pm ET

At lease i believe **mj** is mj... and not making fun of him

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 2:32 pm ET

LORI HAPPY BIRTHDAY SWEETY 🙂 🙂 may God bless and wish you all happiness in life..

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:33 pm ET

Well about his hair...

All I can say is I know he wore wigs..

Most of which were the straight kind.

Take what you will with that info..


(there are u happy)

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:36 pm ET

What happenes if he is alive.....and this is a Hoax... then what

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:36 pm ET

MJ did not want to gain fat is what I was saying.

and what Lou F meant was MJ did not want to get "bulky"

He did not want to be musclar, he wanted to be lean and fit looking.

Which I must say, Lou failed in the dept..

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:38 pm ET

What do you mean Mary?

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Unbreakable.... When did he start wearing wigs???

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:41 pm ET

I do not know the answer to that.

mariau   October 3rd, 2009 2:42 pm ET

mary u – hoax it's only in mind.. Michael will not rest in peace if we think he is still alive.. we need to respect his soul.. we need to pray for his soul.. not to think that he is still alive.. we need to pray that God will give him everlasting happiness and eternal serenity..
we've had enough ... for Michael.. he dont deserve this world.. he have had enough .. He need to rest and peace.. if you really love Michael.. you wouldn't think about this hoax..

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:43 pm ET

I just saying the ones that doubt

mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 2:47 pm ET

MourningMJ......asking you a question. Do you believe Michael is dead????....

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 2:48 pm ET

I have to go for a while.

Just scroll up and read my one post...

I am sure I have already said way too much than I should of, which was never my intention. I just hate to hear things that I know are lies.

Michael deserves to have someone stand up for him.

I will resume my chats with you nice folks at a later time today..


I love you more...

*why must you giggle when I curse*

Wish I would hear you drop a bomb now, I would give anything..

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:51 pm ET

mary u from ohio October 3rd, 2009 2:36 pm ET

What happenes if he is alive…..and this is a Hoax… then what

Then we slap him around a couple times for putting us throught all this pain and then we give him a big HAG HUG and say now get your booty on that stage and do your thang!

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:54 pm ET


you should come over to the welovemichaeljosephjackson dot com blog chat tonight

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 2:55 pm ET

If this a hoax-I would not be so nice about-I would kick Michae'l ass

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 2:57 pm ET


She (Unbreakable) was there last night.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Ok, have read everything: here we go.......:

irene   October 3rd, 2009 2:59 pm ET


with all respect – If you want to believe MJ is not dead, then you have the right to.

For me personally, the fact (?) that MJ used ambulance for different reasons earlier, does not convince me he is alive.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 3:01 pm ET

Lisa S,

I would like to say to you that Ive read everything, and a lot you say makes sense to me. I have / will react on you posts at the 'MJ good health blog'.

No, I am not from South Africa, by the way. Though I have lived there, for six months! Loved it! Are you from Africa?
Bless you.

I am from the Netherlands, Amsterdam.

irene   October 3rd, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Ps. say that cause I DO agree on you, with regard to some things you say ;-).
L O V – E


lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 3:03 pm ET

I'm getting off-I will see you guys later on Jax's blog

irene   October 3rd, 2009 3:04 pm ET

Hi Allure,

Tnx for replying.

No, I meant, if the CD has two new songs (only) – which would be wonderful an sich – then SONY is doing a "nice" job (for themselves $$$), to market it as an (entirely new album).

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 3:05 pm ET

hi Mara,
thanks for accepting at FB.

Lori, Happy birthday from me too.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Unbreakable writes:
"Michael was loved by millions. And it warms my heart to see the out pouring of love he has been getting since he has passed. Please continue the love for him here, because it is truly wonderful to see."

: )

irene   October 3rd, 2009 3:08 pm ET


Im not so sure Michael would have wanted us to inflict any physical pain on Murray.........
It was not his style. (Although It crossed my mind one fan will do that one day).

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Hello everybody, what is the topic today?

Stacey   October 3rd, 2009 3:10 pm ET

I hope him and his baby mama get convicted along with everyone else involved in Michael's death.........

I don't understand didn't Murray say he did nothing wrong......Then why was the diprivan shipped to his baby mama's house and not his office................Oh yea he knew he was doing something he wasn't suppose to be doing in the first place and he also thought he wouldn't of got caught.........Idiot........ Some doctor he is or should I say was............

Justice for Michael better be served.........

irene   October 3rd, 2009 3:11 pm ET


I appreciate your TMZ/credibility explanation. Thank you!
I understand what youre saying...

(It does not mean Automatically EVERY report of them is true.... they could take advantage of their 'image' – as fast news reporters, for example).

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 3:15 pm ET

I am back for a second...

I never said MJ would want that...I said it would not surprise me if it did happen.

Not that I was suggesting Michael would want us to take this guy and beat the crap out of him.

Jan   October 3rd, 2009 3:34 pm ET

I am glad you said he was not as frail or thin as people think because I posted the letters yesterday from fans that I had seen on another site because they say that they had known him for years and that karen faye had real concerns about his health, weight,etc, and whilst it was heartbreaking I had no reason not to believe them.
I would much rather believe what you have said because I don't like the image of MJ suffering so much at the end.
I am glad you have been on here because you can clear up a lot of questions.
Thank you very much.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 3:35 pm ET

And yes, I was in the chat last night.

I was accused of lying about my gender..amoung other things.

People were accusing me of being someone I am not.

Although I think that has pretty much cleared..

When I went and read the back logs of the chat after I left nearly everyone stated that the think I am a traitor, or a fake..

when indeed I have never even claimed to be anyone or anything at all.

Like they think I know something..

I was even accused of being the Informer..or the "un informer"

Not sure why anyone would think I would want to go back there.

I make no claims, I am just here to say what I know.

That is all.

I claim to be NO ONE!

Never said I was MJ, never said I am a family memeber...never said anything of the sort..

I just came here with the purpose of giving my thoughts as everyone else does, yet everyone takes what I say the wrong way.

Even if I DID know Michael in some way does not mean I know anything about what is going on with this case or that I believe anything I see or hear.

Michael taught me that you can no trust what you hear or what you see.

As he told all of you the same things.

All I know is what I KNOW are lies..Just things I know my own self that are lies.

I can't say for sure about anything else, other than what I know.

I have my own thoughts on what happen on June 25th. I am not trying to make anyone else believe me, or to agree with me.

I know NOTHING for certain on whether he is alive or dead.

I never claimed I did.

What I know for sure is that Michael was the funniest man I knew and the purest man I knew..

So whether I know the family or Michael is not even a point..It does not even matter.

Because I want to know the truth, just like the rest of you do.

Thats all!


mary u from ohio   October 3rd, 2009 3:35 pm ET

mariau..........Sorry be i am Michael real true Fan.s along with his others... we believe he is alive.... If you knew Michael and listen to him. you would know the truth.... i am open minded.... i don't believe Michael was a Drug addict... and let someone kill him...

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 3:41 pm ET

@ Jan,
yes I know all about Karen Faye and the things she is saying.

I don't know who much of it is true..

I am not sure what her motive is, or what she has to gain by saying things..but I am unsure as to how true they are.

I take it at face value.

I don't know the woman well enough to make any assumptions.

I just know Michael was not as ill and controled as they say he was.

And he was not spoon fed either.

Those claims are OUTLANDISH!

Jan   October 3rd, 2009 3:53 pm ET


Thank you, for your thoughts, I appreciate your input and please realise how much they help people like me. I am from Wales UK and although I only knew MJ the star on June 25th and since it has felt like I have lost someone close like family or a friend. It's hard to explain it.

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 4:08 pm ET

Unbreakable!AEG say the same,that Michael was in good kondition.So,AEG guys are not the bad guys?Then who is?I remember yestarday you said Sony,but AEG was hire dr Murey,and look like behinde every stranger AEG stand.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 4:10 pm ET

I am very interested in the timeline – was Michael gaining or losing because the human nature clip looks earlier on in rehearsals than some of the other footage so it would be nice to know Michael was gaining weight rather than losing even more. However, I am more interested in truth and 'feeling good'

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 4:12 pm ET


Blah blah blah ans so on.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 4:23 pm ET

Unbreakable – here is a question for you – many of us say that it is sad if Michael thought his fans simply loved an icon or musical genius or whatever. Frankly I'm not into idolatry. I always thought he seemed to be one of the sweetest people walking the earth and that is why I cried when he died, I wasn't even thinking about music. Heck I don't even know how many musicians have died over the last 40 years – I can't count that high, but I haven't felt like this since John Lennon was murdered, maybe worse because Michael is close to my age and I 'grew up with him' so to speak.

So here is my question. do you think Michael realized that his fans' affection for him was real and based in the fact that we could see that he was a very good, caring, gentle and peace-loving person? Or did he think it was all about the glitz?

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 4:28 pm ET

Unbreakable – I hope my post above doesn't sound rude or anything, I am actually interested in your opinion on this subject.

You are very welcome on this blog by me for certain as is everyone else. Lots of people are posting things I don't agree with or I feel are silly or whatever, but when that happens i just read and don't comment, we enjoy freedom of speech and assembly here.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 4:37 pm ET

MaryRM, thanks for asking this – I also want to know the answer to this question.

Michael's music and dance is awesome but I really love him for the man he is and the virtues he stands for.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 4:46 pm ET

I also have a question – where are the Arvizos today ?
How come we've not heard even a word about them in the media ?
Are they placed under some sort of protection or is all media in agreement not to dig into the stories of those who spread lies about Michael ?

I really want to know what happened with them and how they live their lives knowing what they did and what it meant.

Unbreakable, do you know anything about that ?
Anyone else ?

Stu,Hungary   October 3rd, 2009 4:52 pm ET

Judie,try to be friendly with everybody!You are alvais full of love.We are not the same,and we have to live with it.

Jan   October 3rd, 2009 4:59 pm ET

I heard the arvizo's are attending Georgia Military College.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 5:01 pm ET

Hi folks....I'm back and where are we by the way ??? 🙂


i have to come back to that point you made about Dr. Death being a cardiologist. Despite the fact that it is reported MJ died quite a healthy man with a HEALTHY HEART, and had to die of cardiac arrest,
why really did MJ had to die of that Dr. Death as a specialist in that field was there when that happened ???.........was that guy really a professional cardiologist or it was a joke ????........

Can anybody out there arrest this fake doctor before we all get mental out of hearing all the mistakes he did which killed MJ. alone to know that he killed MJ by feeding him with propofol is just enough.......

Why did Murray have to attend to MJ especially at nights only if at all MJ needed the attention of a doctor ?????. Murray was never in the company of MJ at the rehersals, is that right ??? This shows clearly also that MJ was really healthy and needed him absolutely not at all.......he was just there to pump him with propofol in the nights to make MJ feel he was doing something worthwhile to keep him asleep when actually it was so dangerous what he was doing.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 5:02 pm ET

Stue @jax

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 5:20 pm ET

Michael's love for his fans was genuine..

He took none of us for granted.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 5:20 pm ET


I think I am getting at what you are trying to make us aware of....MJ never really wanted people to feel so worried about him probably, thats why those fans also stated he would actually just be reading their letters and just replying with a thank you when they have deeply indicated their concern for his health.

I believe as much as he was touched and concerned about the sick and poor in the world, he knew how it was to feel for the other person, and probably he knew having our worries for him was somewhat like a burden for us ....not that he didn't like people doing that, but out of all that love he had for his fans and those who cared about him.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 5:28 pm ET

If I try to think of Murray's story as an accident or homicide it just boggles my mind that a professional would panick so bad that he'd forget how to save a life.
I can go in details but i guess you can understand what I mean.

If I look at it as a premeditated murder then the murderer is amazingly obvious – there must have been at least a 100 other ways to murder MJ and cover up better.

So my point is that Murray's story is just so shallow that it's impossible to be true. And if it's not true then it's possible to believe that Michael is alive.

Mila   October 3rd, 2009 5:32 pm ET

MaryRM's question was slightly different – it was about whether Michael knew his fans loved him for the gentle and caring person he was as opposed to for the icon he represented.
Could you, please, answer this if you know how to.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 5:32 pm ET


The Arvizo's are at Georgia Military College? Which one? The main campus or a satellite campus? There are satellites all over the state I think. Why would they choose this school? To hide?

Lisa S   October 3rd, 2009 5:33 pm ET

MourningMJ October 3rd, 2009 1:20 pm ET

Yes, and I believe that is good 🙂 Some things are better best forgotten.

Hi Stu! Hi Mariau!

Anneoftheisland   October 3rd, 2009 5:36 pm ET

Mila, doctors are trained not to panic. Indeed mind boggling, and he's a cardiologist!

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 5:46 pm ET

where is everyone?

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 5:56 pm ET

Yes, Michael knew his true fans stood by him thru thick and thin..

No matter what.

That is true.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 5:20 pm ET
Michael’s love for his fans was genuine..

I know Michael was full of love, anyone with half a brain could see it clear as day. My question was could he see our affection for him – that it was real, not adulation of an icon? The way people went crazy around him, it may have seemed so.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Hi Judie! 🙂

Hello Irene!
Ja, now I understand what you mean 😉 If u check in music shop u can find a lot of albums with always the big hits of MJ's, Sony released many of such albums.

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 6:05 pm ET

Good evening Coco 🙂

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

Trying to read what all I missed today, but I have two comments on some subjects brought up earlier...

Documentary – someone posted early this morning about ex Sony Executives interviews. I only listened to one, but I really would love for a documentary to be done on Michael's contributions to the world through his lyrics, poetry, music, dance, film, charities...a very indepth professional look through the eyes of music executives, professors of music and the top people in the industry such as sound technicians, recording engineers on how he revolutionized the music industry, how that came about and how his persona was able to do this, etc. A documentary would have to address his anger and frustration with the press, but if the right person did it – say a Spike Lee – then a film of this nature would capture the voting members attention for artistic achievement in a documentary genre. The Academy has very definite ideas about what kind of film should be nominated. I think a documentary focusing on Michael, the musician and his contributions over a span of 40 years would catch and hold their attention. I mean the historical perspective would be fascinating.

Weight – I have already voiced my opinions on this so won't repeat, but concerning to me with Michael and his eating was that he was consuming juice drinks for breakfast, a low calorie, low fat salad for lunch and I am not sure what his dinner consisted of...the chef may have said, but I cannot remember and I can only assume he was eating at the Staples Center for that meal. The above shows a very low calorie intake on which most peoole would lose weight not to mention someone working 16 plus hours/day with stress and physical movement with the dancing. I like Cheryl Lee, his nutritionist and if he had kept her perhaps she would have suggested that Michael add high calorie, high protein powders to those juice concoctions. I think Michael was into healthy for sure, but his metabolic rate must have been high and he needed the extra calories. With folks who won't eat/don't like to eat you have to get the calories in somehow. I'm just sayin' the pounds could have been added to add the lean muscle mass which "Unbreakable" referred to him not having. I also have concern about the juices he was drinking, whether or not they were causing him to lose weight simply because the ingredients can produce colonic cleansing (sorry's just our bodies). Those juices are very popular in Hollywood right now.

Still upset...things could have been different....

NINA YIRDAW   October 3rd, 2009 6:13 pm ET

Hopefuly the truth revealed soon. We all love Michael.

anthony   October 3rd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Michael was already a vegetarian but I believe if he would have gone on a raw food diet most of his physical problems would have been eased.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 6:20 pm ET

Victoria I would love to see a documentary like that. I am very interested in what Spike Lee is filming about MJ now.

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 6:23 pm ET

I have faith in that

Love you Michael, so much. FOREVER.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:23 pm ET

oh, yeah, almost forgot – unbreakable – I didn't watch the Oprah tribute, don't need to watch any more of that sh– thank you very much, I've already had more than my fill.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:25 pm ET

Spike – he's the man – I'd love for him to do documentary, movie, whatever about Michael. He definitely has the talent and I'm hoping the power to do the job right.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 6:31 pm ET

October 3rd, 2009 8:14 am ET

For those of you that feel MJ is still alive, please solve this problem:

1. How did a fake corpse get injected with diprivan?

Hint: Since a corpse can’t be injected with diprivan, (no beating heart for the blood to circulate the medicine ) who was the person killed by the overdose?

Sheryl   October 3rd, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Chris – Yes, we'll keep Michael's legacy going. I also am a teacher and always start my 8th grade English class in September with a simple poetry unit that's usually a hit. This year I'm adding some song lyrics from a few artists, including Michael's. (His are great for teaching the literary concept of "theme" and I use song lyrics that have a humanitarian message.) The kids were very interested, and when I told them who the writer was, we ended up having a good discussion about a variety of topics including trial by jury and our U.S. Constitution. Not one student voiced the opinion that Mr. Jackson was guilty of molestation. I plan to keep sprinkling in more of his lyrics as the year goes on – his messages are so important for that age. We'll also be learning about "sensationalism" in journalism and how that sells.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:39 pm ET

My daughter studies music in university. Last spring they were studying John Lennon. A few years from now I am sure they will have added Michael to the curriculum.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 6:40 pm ET

October 3rd, 2009 1:29 am ET

It has been tough to leave any sort of comment without people jumping all over you and your opinion so I think the people that are seeking the truth are chatting elsewhere to figure things out because here some people could not understand where others were coming from.

October 3rd, 2009 1:34 am ET

I know what you mean. Everyone coming on here should be able to express their opinion without being attacked.

October 3rd, 2009 1:39 am ET

I agree with you. To me it seems like a lynch mob here at times. The way I see it everyone has a right to their opinion, including me.

The MJ site has some fans that will attack you if you don’t have the same beliefs as them. This has been ongoing for 3 months. There are also fans that have incorporated rules for bloggers on this site. I’ve never been on a worldwide public blog that set up rules to either comment positive or negative. This is why it’s fantastic to be able to set up an individual site and all those that think alike can enter by choice. Certain people want to keep the MJ blog positive. If it is to be a positive blog, then why is it okay to verbally abuse fellow bloggers, and every negatively interpreted topic, and presume guilt on everyone from AEG, media, Sony, Klein, Rowe, Tohme, Rabbi, Dileo, etc. The ONLY things we know about MJ is from his tapes, his interviews and the media. People interpret things differently and have the right to their own opinion, regardless if it is positive or negative

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 6:43 pm ET

Sheryl That is so great that you are using lyrics from MJ's songs in your English class. I noticed that Boteach's book has dropped to #138 on amazon's list. I want to go read MJ's words at the bookstore.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:45 pm ET

I certainly hope everyone keeps a level of tolerance and accepts peoples' right to their opinion.

I hope we can avoid a repeat of what happened a short while ago. Personal attacks are distressing and lowers people to the level of the tabloids. Although everyone has a right to an opinion, I only hope it is stated with tact instead of as an attack.

And as I have said, this is only my hope. No one can create rules on public space.

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 6:45 pm ET

Another oddity to keep in mind everybody is that the Security Surveillance Camera video from that day on the 25th at the Jackson mansion is missing, so is the hard drive with his music, and so is cash. What gives??

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Since this is going to be my last post here on LKL I will say a few more things.

First, YES Michael knew his true and dear fans loved him for WHO he was not WHAT he was.

My occupation outside of being a mother is a free lance photographer and set designer that works with CG things.

I worked with Michael on his HIStory tour breifly and on other things other the years.

I was contacted by someone in his camp to help with The Dome Project that Michael had been working on.

The two months prior to his passing I was in CA working on this with him amung others.

My job was to help with still photography and working with the sets and green screens and things related to CG aspects.

I saw Michael nearly everyday before he passed.

I was even blessed with the privelage of seeing the rehersals.

And seeing my work come to life. It was amazing.

Over the years I have had the honor of meeting most of Michael's siblings as well as his children.

My work on the Dome Project brought me such joy and pride because Michael Jackson asked for ME. Not many people can say that.

The day Michael died was a horrifying day. I was to see him at rehersal that evening because we were having some glitches with some of our CG projects for the tour..

The day before he pased I saw him around 9pm and he asked me about the gliches we were having..I was pissed because I could not fix it. I told him I would stay all night to get it right, and he told me to go back to my hotel and get some rest and that we would worry about it in the morning.

When I left I told him I was so mad I was going to step on every bug I saw on the way..(it was a inside joke) and he told me

"you better not, or im gonna getcha"

Than we had a laugh and hugged and he kissed me on my cheek and told me not to stress out about the issues we were having.

I told him I would try not to, but i was still going to kill all the bugs.

I than told him I loved him and that I would see him tomorrow.

He than told me I was a bug killer but he loved me anyway.

And that was the last I saw of him.

Micheal was eating, i saw him eat many times, and eat candy, the man LOVEd candy, he always had a sucker in his hand unless he was singing or dancing..

He was not frail or sickly.

When I would talk to much he woud often tell me to go find his sucker stash and suck on it so I shut my mouth.

He was the funniest and warmest man I knew.

When we were working on The Dome Project we would sing songs together..

( I am a self proclamied karaoke queen and I told him every chance I got)

One day while we were waiting for someone to show up with some crap we needed, he said he wanted to hear the karoake queen in full mode.

He found a working mic and handed it to me and told me to "wow him"

So i grabbed the mic and told him I did not know any good songs worth singing.

(poking fun at him)

We than had a tiny karoaoke session and he told me that was the most fun he had had all day.

I told him it was not even noon yet, so that was not saying much.

Michael Jackson was a gift.

I was lucky enough to had known him for 12 years and to work with him as many times as I did.

What happen to him was a tragedy.

I have no idea if this is a hoax or not. I tend to think it is not.

I tend to think he was murdered and it is a dirty dirty murder with many people involved.

I am sorry for posting here, and making some people anrgy for whatever reason.

I never had any intention of ever saying I knew him. I have been coming here for months and reading comments. And have wanted so many times to shout out..THAT IS NOT TRUE.

But I did not.

I felt it was my time to get this off my chest.

This is not something I speak freely about for many reasons.

I was even asked months ago by LK staff if I wanted to particapte in a show where they were talking about MJ condtion before he died.

I declined.

To me, that would have been going against everything Michael stood for. Others did.

But now that 3 months have passed and we still have no answers and there are these reports he was frail and being spoon fed, I just wanted it to be known that those are all lies.

I want to tell you every MJ story I have, because it feels good to talk about him.

He was a wonderful father and an upstanding human being.

I think I have made my peace and I want to move on.

I don't think justice will be served.

So there you all go. That is my story.

I will not post anymore in here as I feel it has been counter prodcutive.

Michael I love you and I'm going outside right now to smoosh every bug I see.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 6:48 pm ET

Evening Allure !!! where have you been ???........i went out for a steak and chips, quite something else from raclette you know ??? american rumpsteak at Maredos. 🙂 🙂

Cris   October 3rd, 2009 6:49 pm ET

And just a repost from last night to keep this as well in the discussion:

I think we’ve all forgotten one important thing and sorry I’m late, but everybody read the following very closely: Propofol disappears from the bloodstream very quickly. How did the coroner detect it? I repeat Propofol disappears from the bloodstream very quickly. How did the coroner detect it?

Think about what I said and pass it on. Propofol disappears from the bloodstream very quickly. How did the coroner detect it? A tissue sample can only do so much. That makes the entire Michael Jackson case 99.9% fabricated because the “death” and “autopsy” ride on the supposed “High-Levels of Propofol” declaration which from a medical standpoint is the equivalent of saying “High Levels of Oxygen”. Think about it.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 6:49 pm ET


This is fantastic! Wow! The interview with ex Sony execs just made it so much clearer to me that even on the day Michael died and the weeks that followed Michael was not hailed as the music genius he was. I was very disappointed in many commentators during those weeks when they would give him credit but then allude to Michael as strange and that his music was not the quality of the early 80's. I totally disagree. As much as I love those albums, they are not necssarily my favorites. I am excited about how you are using his poetry to teach. That makes learning poetry fun and exciting and that it can be used to make a living!

@Anne and MaryRM – I had read Spike Lee was doing a film. I hope it is Oscar quality/caliber. There is just a part of me that would love to see Michael Jackson honored by those people (the Academy) who stood by silently when he was wrongly accused and yet they will stand up for others like Mr. Polanski and even Letterman. It hurts to see that.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 6:51 pm ET

Mila: Your post below:

October 3rd, 2009 5:32 pm ET

MaryRM’s question was slightly different – it was about whether Michael knew his fans loved him for the gentle and caring person he was as opposed to for the icon he represented.
Could you, please, answer this if you know how to.
Sorry Unbreakable, but I would like to jump in on this questions too if you don't mind.

Mila: That is an impossible question to answer. Someone would have to have a 1 on 1 conversation with MJ to answer this.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 6:52 pm ET

When i found you i found my self i found a guy like no one else
When i found you i found my soul i found your love that made me whole
when i found you i found my heart i found it struck by cupids dart
when i found you i found my dream i found out what love realy means

love4ever mj xx

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 6:53 pm ET

I meant I know him 15 years..I pushed the 2 instead of the 5.


MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 6:54 pm ET

unbreakable – we don't want you to go. we are interested in hearing about Michael the man. We already know all his songs. If someone says something negative to me, I just ignore them, don't give a flying -- what anyone thinks of me, I know who I am.

please don't go.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 6:54 pm ET

Unbreakable. I am speechless at what you have told us. We need so desperately to know happy stories about him to ease our pain. Thank you so much for sharing.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 6:56 pm ET


May I say I have a lot of reserves about you claiming to know Michael. I have seen too many people doing that.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 6:58 pm ET


Why are you saying justice will not be served ????

Please keep blogging coz some of us need you to support us in finding justice for MJ....... we will never stop blogging to keep MJ'S legacy alive you know !!!! I feel so much better having someone who have worked and known MJ for a long time with us here in the blogs.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 6:59 pm ET

Are you allowed to tell us what the Dome project was? Is it finished?

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:00 pm ET

Unbreakable: Your post below:

October 3rd, 2009 10:35 am ET

by the way..I went back in the chat and read all the logs from last night.

I did not see you call me a traitor, that is why I never addressed it.

And I do not have to prove anything to you, or anyone else about who I am.

That is not why I am here..I have been coming here for months and months.

I never made any claims about anything. So I am not sure what you think I am lying about.

Or how I am a fake. makes no sense. How can I be a fake when i never represneted myself as anything but a Michael Jackson fan.

I don’t expect or want anyone else to think or feel the way I do.

And I was not trying to convince anyone other wise.

And no, I am NOT the Informer.
I am so sorry that you were treated like that. Others have received that same harassment on the MJ topics. That is why I don't chat on that blog. Don't let people like that stop you from blogging on this blog. We need your opinion.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 7:04 pm ET

One last thing..

( i know i keep saying that)

I don't expect anyone to believe me. That is not my intention.

You do not know me, I do not kow you.

I would have nothing to gain by lying.

We owe eachother nothing.

Please don't stop fighting for justice.

I do not know Mr Murray nor have I met him, but I know this.


This Is It.

I'm really going now, and thank you for listening.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

Victoria – I agree with you 100%. When I hear all those Hollywood types supporting Polanski who was guilty of the crime and think about the way they turned their backs on MJ who was totally innocent it makes me so sad and so bitter. And all the sympathy for Letterman for his extortion case. I am like how come nobody ever cared that the Chandlers were extorting from MJ? I will never ever understand why he was treated this way. And another famous couple's child died because he was not on seizure medicine and they are treated sympathetically, too.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 7:07 pm ET

@Unbreakable –

thank you for sharing your very personal insight and feelings. As I said yesterday, my eyes are not letting me see Michael healthy and I want to...oh, I want to. You can help us all and I think it is good that you just had to share and let this out. When you are this close to someone, the hurt has to be very severe. There are so many here that are very open and have very healing words to offer even when they do not agree with you. You should stay.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 7:08 pm ET


If its the case they say propofol disappears very quickly from the bloodstream, then where did they find it ??? I believe if its disappeared there, traces of it can still be found in other body sources like the brain remember MJ had to be buried after that two months period coz they took out ( which I really hate saying ) his brain for further testing.

SuzieCanada   October 3rd, 2009 7:09 pm ET

I felt it from the moment you came on Unbreakable that you were someone special. I was afraid you would get the "special treatment" from the "believers" and you did. They drove you away. I don't blame you for leaving. So am I.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 7:10 pm ET

Somebody he claims to know Michael doesn't say at the same time he or she doesn't know if he is still alive or dead. Actually, I am getting very upset about these Informer-MJ stories, because we have a mourning family outside, with 3 heartbroken kids and it is time to stop this hoax game. Respect the family in their mourning.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 7:11 pm ET


That is just what unbreakable wants ....throws something like a big statement out there for your attention then leaves.
Then everyone begs him ( I believe he is a man) to come back.

Please take all the drama away from here we have enough to deal with.

Just my opinion.

You can't fool the fans.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 7:13 pm ET

@ Anne

Thanks for adding the child who did not receive proper medication due to parent's religious beliefs. I cannot imagine the grief they bear, but you are right, they are forgiven, etc. and yet no one loved Michael through a horrible, horrible wrong that was done to him. Michael did not do anything to anyone but love them where they were at.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:16 pm ET


Your propofol question.........when I read the manufacturers site regarding propofol, it stated when the drug is used consistently, it will build up a small amount in the blood system over a period of time.

You might want to check back on last nights blog because other bloggers gave you their opinions of your questions. Hope this helps.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 7:24 pm ET

Medical experts are even able to tell the difference between a homocide by propofol and suicide by propofol.

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 7:25 pm ET

More drama please ..... Give me a break!

Allure   October 3rd, 2009 7:26 pm ET

still awake?

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Susan 62509 and MaryRM,

I want to agree with you two that this systematic attack on other bloggers just because they have different opinions from what others want to hear is totally uncalled for. We all believe each and everyone has their opinions and whoever feels the comment which comes up doesn't satisfy them can simply ignore it and go on with their own commentsor those which they feel satisfies them.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 7:35 pm ET

Yes Allure, I'm still here !!! 🙂

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:36 pm ET

Hi Judie:

I had commented to Unbreakable last night, prior to my comment asking him/her not to leave. IMO, I don't feel anyone is superior over other bloggers to slander them. IMO, I have felt that some bloggers are so locked into their own beliefs and when they can't get new bloggers to agree with them, they get pissed off. People should be more open minded and listen to all input. Blogging is for sharing, not control.

Just my opinion. Different personalities is what makes the world go around.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:36 pm ET

The fact that Michael took Ryan White into his home at a time when people were so incredibly afraid of AIDS speaks volumes about him, about the depth of his character. Deeds speak for themselves.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:39 pm ET

Judie October 3rd, 2009 7:11 pm ET
if that is what unbreakable or any other blogger wants to do it is their right to do it. As I have said, I have read through TI and mj blogs and never made a comment. it is their right to post what they want, when they want. That is what free speech is about.

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

SuzieCanada, Cocovelvet and Anne:

That's the kind of love MJ spread. I'm glad we are sharing his message.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 7:44 pm ET

Victoria J and Anne,

........oh yes !!!, those two stories; one of someone commiting a crime and thinking he can leave the country where he was hiding for 30 years, and that with those parents who had to refuse their own child medication due to their religious beliefs are just some test stories in comparison to what happened to someone who was repeatedly wrongfully accused.

The first two seem to receive all the sympathy they can wish for from their comrades whilst the wrongfully accused got even more kicks and slaps than he necessarily had to get....... UNBELIEVABLE HUUUUHH!!!!!

Susan62509   October 3rd, 2009 7:45 pm ET


That's the kind of love MJ spread. I'm glad we are sharing his message. Let's all continue to spread his message.

Victoria J   October 3rd, 2009 7:48 pm ET

Thank you Cocovelvet, Susan,Anne, MourningMJ and MaryRM...and probably others :o)

For your voices of reasonableness...and for your love. We are all here because we love Michael Jackson. Can we agree to disagree and go on with the next topic or question/s for clarification to our questions/concerns? I believe each of us want justice for Michael. I feel safe here in my pain. Please, let's keep this a safe place.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 7:51 pm ET



Judie   October 3rd, 2009 7:52 pm ET

ok guys here it is. This conversation took place last night in a private chat room. I did not bring it here on LKL unbreakable did.

I did not say one word about his/her opinion and I never attacked him at all.
I felt we were being lied too and stated my opinion which is what we are all entitled to.

If unbreakable didn't disclose the conversation here no one would of known. He not only brought it up once but twice.

Most of you know me for awhile and I have never attacked anyone that is not my style.If I dont agree I just move on.

As I said this was a private conversation elsewhere. Idid not bring it up.

Peace and Love to you all. IHUG

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 7:53 pm ET

Mary RM-
Actions do speak louder than words. And Michael was certainly an example of that statement, by all the good he did for others in this world . In my circle of friends I know of two people he helped with medical conditions. One of them would not be alive if Michael had not stepped in and helped with the right hospital/physicians.
Michael, you were a GOOD person.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 7:53 pm ET


You are quite right on that one about MJ's deep character and his outmost love for other people, which he showed when he took in that boy Ryan White.

You know, there was such a deep-rooted stigma attached to the whole issue of AIDS and HIV those days, even to the extend of the disease being made such a secret when one was suffering from it. Even the patients would usually find themselves being so isolated from the rest of the society..........but MJ did quite a difference by taking that boy and giving him all the love.....

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 7:56 pm ET

Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 7:04 pm ET – One last thing..( i know i keep saying that) I don’t expect anyone to believe me. That is not my intention.

Just come back – under another name if you prefer. Just stay with us – your posts have been positive, intelligent, kind and interesting, like you said, it is irrelevant whether people choose to believe them or not. I don't want some negative comments drive the positive people away.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 7:58 pm ET

I personally think it is time to stop hoaxing or sub-hoaxing. Unbreakable says he or she does not know if Mj is dead, but still states or very much insinuates he or she knew MJ.

This is not a topic to joke about, guys, that's not a matter of attacking, it is a matter to call upon respect for the family. Did you see paris during the memorial and Janet who was almost in tears at MTV. Stop this hoaxing and claiming you knew him at the same time.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 7:58 pm ET



billiejean   October 3rd, 2009 8:02 pm ET


mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:04 pm ET


**mj**   October 3rd, 2009 8:06 pm ET


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 8:08 pm ET


I think Unbreakable was just trying to be neutral when he/she said he doesn't know whether MJ is dead or alive coz I think he has recognised there are two groups of believers in these blogs....those who believe he is dead and those who believe he is not dead.

I also think unbreakable is still better than this TI and "mj" who really come into these blogs to make a mockery of our feelings. At least what I get from unbreakable is that he/she has worked with MJ for some long period of time, which means he/she knows MJ well.

It does ofcourse sounds a bit like strange or odd that someone who would have been so close to MJ happens to come into these blogs, but we know these LKL blogs have so far been the more positive ones and the ones having real fans of MJ. So, don't you think its the right forum for unbreakable to appear coz he knew MJ and saw that a lot of bloggers here had that great love for MJ ????

Lynn   October 3rd, 2009 8:10 pm ET


Thanks for your comments both last night and today. I enjoyed your views and I am glad that you came on to dispel some of the confusion on MJs health. I would like to hear more of what MJ was like but understand your not wanting to come back. It was nice hearing what you had to say. Thank You

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:12 pm ET



Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Cocovelvet, if she or he know MJ well, she should chose parties, either he is dead or alive. A true friend of MJ knows he is dead and respects the hurting of the family. I read on twitter Rebbie is not amused by all this hoaxing

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 8:13 pm ET


Listen to **mj** another poser

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 8:16 pm ET

Ladies, I call it a night now, and we talk again tomorrow.

keep MJ'S spirit of love alive and Good Night all !!! 😉

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:18 pm ET

AN imposter to what judie

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:20 pm ET

I really enjoyed the photos posted by Nancy Malnik on facebook. I used my husband’s facebook account to see them. They are fabulous and now my question about the one with Prince and Paris in costumes and Michael in PJs is answered. I love that picture but there are even better ones there.

I don’t know who Nancy Malnik is – anyone know?

blanketparis   October 3rd, 2009 8:21 pm ET


Michael, We will Stand by and wait...we will never leave you

Please forgive us for our never ending want, of you in our presence.

All MY Love

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 8:23 pm ET

I am out of here, I am not amused by people pretending to be MJ.

Cocovelvet   October 3rd, 2009 8:26 pm ET


Yes, I read somewhere in this blog today that Rebbie made that comment that if ever MJ will return , it will be only on his spirit. When I read that, I felt so bad about these people who keep saying MJ is still alive and is gonna come back in december, come back next year blaaah!!!blaaahh!!!.

Its just so disrespectful on that family, and mainly on MJ himself to say such things. This is literally to say they are liers, and who are we to call that family that way or doubt them when none of us doesn't even have the slightest prove of what is behind all those beliefs.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:28 pm ET

**MJ** would tou like to come to rhondas site
they all loveeee you there
they would be so happy
sorry if joke in bad taste
you rock my world


Judie   October 3rd, 2009 8:28 pm ET


No *mj* said you were a poser *mj** is saying there is a poser on here... I think its **mj**

angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 8:32 pm ET

what do you mean Judie??????? its not MJ here

**mj**   October 3rd, 2009 8:33 pm ET


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

Judie   October 3rd, 2009 8:33 pm ET


angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 8:38 pm ET

MJ I beLIEve in you so much ,,,,,,,,hurry back love you .........

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:40 pm ET



Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 8:44 pm ET

I told myself I would not write anything else. But some of your comments have me going nuts.

I don't care if you believe me or not. I have nothing to prove to anyone.

I also said that I thought MJ was dead. I said I know nothing for sure, I never saw his dead body, I never went to the memorial..nothing of that sort.

I was having lunch when I got a call that Michael had been rushed to the hospital.

The very next day after his passing I flew back home.

I have flown back twice more to finish up work that will be showcased in the movie.

I know nothing else other than what I saw with my own eyes.

I am not implying I think he is alive, because I do not. All I was saying was I have no idea what happend. One day I was employed by Michael and the next day he was dead.

I am by no means a famous person, just someone who does some free lance work on the side.

And what Judie said is a lie. I was invited to this chat, Judie asked me if I was male or female. I said Femal, she said I was lying right from the start. even before I said anything.

I did not post the conversation here. All I said were the names you called me and others that were there.

So you DID attack me. Amushed me in fact.

I don't know what you have against me, and at this point I don't much care.

I will not address your comments anymore as I feel they are not useful to anyone.

The fact is I DID know Michael and that is all I need to know.

I could have come strolling in here the day after he died claiming I knew him and said everything than that I just said now.

But I did not.

I don't see what seems so weird about a person who worked with Michael Jackson to be in here.

I have been reading Larry's Blogs for a long time. Way before the passing of Michael.

I could also claim I was invited to the memorail or the burial or that had been to his house.

But all of those statements would be lies.

Only thing I can claim is I worked with him his History Tour and The Dome Project, and saw most of his rehearsals as we were getting the kinks out of our CG images we were doing for the London shows.

I was not a close personal friend.

But we had a lot of good times. And he respected my work. And I did his.

Not so sure what is so unbelievable about those things.

And yes, I am a woman, as a matter of fact last week I had a hystrectomy. If you want to see my biopsy report or a mammogram, I got them handy.

I just came here to clear up some things that were bothering me, and it sort of escaladed into this.

Which I regret deeply.

I never intended for it to go this far.

And NO I am not looking for attention or fame.

How do I get either by posting things on the LKL blog.

I mean really?

if I wanted all that I could make all sorts of outlandish claims.

I thought I was coming into an enviorment of MJ lovers who are seeking the truth about what happend.

So, any questions?

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 8:44 pm ET

love you more**mj** id forgive you anythink

your pyt

love4ever xx

Heidi   October 3rd, 2009 8:45 pm ET


Love you the Most....I BeLIEve you are "The Man"

"Will you be There" I will ALWAYS be there for you.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 8:45 pm ET

Regarding the article in The Guardian: that is one of the most real articles I've read about Michael in very long time.Difficult to read, but real.

jacqueline   October 3rd, 2009 8:48 pm ET


I will Always be There

Love you more

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 8:51 pm ET

yes, Unbreakable, I have a question?

Were youn the one standing up for karen Faye at Susuan Etok's blog?

I like her blog but when karen's fans came walking in they started to throw names.

angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 8:52 pm ET

@ Unbreakable
I have never spoke to you but it is very sad how people are.dont matter where you go or what you do there is someone waiting to attach you why I will never know..........sorry that you are up set I myself HATE to be called A LIER

MJ love you xoxox

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:53 pm ET

what is the Dome Project?

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 8:58 pm ET

angelwings and unbreakable – it has been often my experience that when i am telling the truth, that is when people call me a liar – so I don't care what they say, I mean, who made them all-knowing and who made them my judge? f-it. excuse my language

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 9:02 pm ET




angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

Mary excuse me did I say you are a lier I didnt say any names I just saw what Unbreakable wrote I did not read this blog !!!!!!!!!! I did not judge you geeeeeeeee read next time I didnt say any names!!!!!!!!!

**mj**   October 3rd, 2009 9:06 pm ET


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:06 pm ET

No, I have never been to that blog. I do not know Karen personally. I have met her, but no I would not stick up for her. I don't agree with some of the claims she is making. Peroid.

The DOme Project is a secert project Michael was working on that had to do with the London Shows.

part of the show there was to be lots of special effects, which you will see when This Is It comes out.

He was also working on other things that were not involved with the concerts, which it is not my place to talk about this, since I was not working on them.

The Dome Project was top secert. But it seems everyone knows about it now..

Any footage you see of Michael where there is a green screen behind him, that is him working on the dome project..And I would have been there, as I was there everyday.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Yes what that *mj* imposter said was right.

Most of what we were working on the dome project was to do with the song thriller.

angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Mary sorry I miss read what you wrote..............sorry again

WES   October 3rd, 2009 9:11 pm ET


bella   October 3rd, 2009 9:12 pm ET

wow when will we see this Dome Project? Sounds wonderful –
love you Michael – your fans from Down Under 🙂

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:14 pm ET

There is are a lot of CG effect in the show..

and that is what I do..

I have nothing to do with post production or anythng, I am not an editor or director or producer. So I don't know what is going on as far as that is concerned.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I would swear there was an Unbreakable, I will check tomorow
You know, real insiders don't blog publicly about him out of respect or don't insinuate. That's my view.

I will check with Timor Steffens, the dancer in the team and see what he has to say about the Dome Porject and the green screen worker. I will ask him.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 9:15 pm ET

**MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ** **MJ**



Mila   October 3rd, 2009 9:15 pm ET

**mj** what makes you smile ?

secret   October 3rd, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Hi, new here but I have been reading this blog all day and I would like to as Unbreakable a question. I have read that Conrad Murray was at the rehearsals at times. Did you ever see him there?

Also, do you believe Michael really was up to doing all those shows?

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Dome sound great – hope we can see it one day

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Hello everyone, **mj** jax haggers, et al 🙂

How was your Saturday?

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:20 pm ET

You will see it when the movie comes out...

If there is an Unbreakable at that blog it is not me. You know this is a title to a MJ song don't you? I am assuming I am not the only person posting things under this name.

I am not an insider. And nothing I have said has been in any way disrespectful toward Michael.

His friends like the Rabbi and such, those are insiders who pissed all over him.

Me, I am not an insider.

All i did was work with him..

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:20 pm ET

ha ha angelwings – no I wasn't saying anyone here is calling me a liar – that has not happened. but in my everyday life, that is when I get called a liar when I am telling the truth and I used to get flabberghasted. now I just think – water of a ducks back. People at work laugh at me sometimes, because they see me pulling my hands down my hair and I say, water off a ducks back, that;s what it is

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Yes you check with your dancer friend..

Although they were not involved in the dome project they do know about it.

I am assuming...

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

angelwings Did you see my post last night just after you said good night? We were talking about your dad.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Unbreakable, I am off to bed now.

I am sorry, I just say as it is, I don't believe you.

But take care anyway.

Emmy Lalonde, Belgium.   October 3rd, 2009 9:23 pm ET

MIchael we believe on you that you are an innocent man. Justice should be done that Murray and Co should pay their bill, to be punished and jail.
We stand by you MJ, we love you very deeply, as much as the time you were still there and even more. May LORD bless you and the law would find the FACTs what MURRAY did wrong to you, as he STOLEN your life and all happiness you had, which should not be ending yet. WE love you Michael, forever, always more. UR not alone we always be there for U.

Lois   October 3rd, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Ok let's JAM 🙂

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Hello **mj**
How are you, I hope soooo fine. I love you so, really.
I'm a girl from Mexico.
I want to thank you for everything dear Michael, you for me are more than a role model or idol, you are my BEST FRIEND.

I'll be with you in everything that you need, I will support You Till the end, and beyond.


Your loyal Gema.

Lynn   October 3rd, 2009 9:26 pm ET


I may have missed this at some point but what are CG effects? We will see this Dome project in the movie?

angelwings   October 3rd, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Anne about my dad why

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

@ Secert,
I have never met or saw Mr Murray.

And to answer your second question, I am not sure.

It was a BIG production, i will say that.

And he was getting thin.

So I can not answer that one,as I am not sure.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I was saying that when a person falls and cuts their head it bleeds so profusely it looks so much worse than it really is. A tiny cut can look like a person has been seriously injured.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Another thing Unbreakable,

Timor has said from the beginning the people that worked on the concerts are still not allowed to talk about Michael. But you did, you even talked about his state of health. That is not allowed, so sorry, i don't believe it. I believe Timor.

**mj**   October 3rd, 2009 9:30 pm ET


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

Lynn   October 3rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

WOW-These conversations are getting VERY interesting.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

You believe what you want. I have nothing to prove to you.

I am not saying anything that has not already been said..

And two days after MJ died his dancers were on LK talking about his yeah, that makes no sense,

CG is Computer Generated...(special effects)

I was not part of the concert, I said I was part of the Dome Project.

There is a HUGE difference...

And if me saying MJ was in good health seems like a bad thing, than I appologize.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

**MJ**, I think you need help. Appeared? We have a ghost in the house.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET




willa   October 3rd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

The doctor needs to go to jail. We will be watching so this will not be swept under the rug. The girlfriend was aiding she should go to jail too.

Seeker   October 3rd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

**mj** I know that is you...I love you more!

Alicia   October 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

WEs, that is really sweet, not sappy. I can relate. 🙂

Lois   October 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

She Drives me Wild 🙂

sarah   October 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

omg **mj** was here i missed it 😦 come back **mj**

A little less ordinary   October 3rd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

WE beLIEve

Love and light

PEACE xxxxxxx

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I am still interested in seeing the timeline because the human nature clip looks early on in rehearsal process. and the one taken the day or so before he died, it looked like he had a few more pounds added. So I'm hoping that chef knew her stuff and was bringing his weight back up.

Lois   October 3rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Remember the Time 🙂

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Unbreakable, two days after his death everybody was still in shock and of course they said he was okay.

He was not okay. He was taking benzos for a long time and his family tried to intervene many times. He was not up to 50 concerts and people need to stop being in denial. latoya herself sai that paris said they worked too hard on him.

Larry, I think you should do something about people like MJ who try to stir things up over the back of a dead person and his beloved children. Shame on you!

secret   October 3rd, 2009 9:40 pm ET

One more question to Unbreakable and then I will go back to lurking mode.

We can see Michaels physical state and have different opinions about that, I for one believe he was just too skinny for his own good.

Do you have an opinion about his mental state? Was he handling things ok or did you sense any kind of fear or regret about the upcoming tour?

**mj**   October 3rd, 2009 9:40 pm ET


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

bella   October 3rd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Eli, I'm not sure, but by 'appeared' I think **mj** means how he was in appearance, what he looked like at that time.
Michael we love you so much, hope you're well and safe.

bella   October 3rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET

(oops already clarified) – the lag is a bit slow with my internet connection

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 9:43 pm ET

If anybody missed it LKL took down the link but this article "Michael Jackson: now for the encore" in the Guardian Oct 4 is very interesting reading.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

if you would have read what I said, I also said I was unsure he could do 50 shows.

I do not know anything about any drugs he may or may not have been taking, and if I did that is not something I would write about.

Nothing I have said is not anything that is not already known or been said.

I was not a dancer and I was NOT part of the show.

GemaLoves Michael.   October 3rd, 2009 9:46 pm ET

tell me something, did you read what I told you?

Love you wonderful child!

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 3rd, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I am making a fool of myself to go into the matter seriously.

I will ask Larry to do soemthing about the ones that claim to be MJ


mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 9:47 pm ET

**MJ** bring your gold pants down to rhondas blog

we want to wrap you in love xxxxxx

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Wow you guys, you have been busy. I am trying to catch up. Let's just try and focus on the positive OK? We are all here because we are Michael Jackson fans. Let's just try and keep it real.


sarah   October 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

**mj** we believe you .don't stop postings ignore the negative ... whats up with Eli............?????????

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

@ Secert,
Yes Michael was thin..

But he was full of energy and spunk.

As far as his mental state, as far as what i seen, was tip top.

He did tell me that he was getting too old for this..(joking around of course)

But the times I interacted with him, his mental state was fine.

I do not know how he appreared when I was not around, so I can not say anything for sure.

He did appear tired some of the time, but he was working hard.

chris   October 3rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Thank you so much for sharing your views and opinions of MJ. They have been extremely enlightening.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 9:54 pm ET

unbreakable – I like hearing your opinions

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

@Unbreakable – I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. If so I do apologize. Mea culpa.


bella   October 3rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

@Unbreakable – your observations are balanced – and refreshing too, they are not black or white (no pun intended), for so long we have been hearing different stories so its wonderful you're putting us at ease 🙂

secret   October 3rd, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Thank you Unbreakable for answering my question.

mjsheerbrilliance   October 3rd, 2009 9:58 pm ET

@Unbreakable Thank you for clearing my thoughts and putting things into perspective 🙂 You are truly blessed to have had the opportunity to work with Michael Jacksons brilliant mind 🙂

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 9:59 pm ET

What do you mean by that?

Lois   October 3rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Break of Dawn 🙂

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

I say I am getting too old for this too sometimes, but usually when the office politics go into high gear. marketing is full of strong opinionated people and some are less than scrupulous – their morality consists of – as long as I get what I want, it's ok. but mostly it's fun, I love being around creative outspoken people.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Your welcome Secert.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 10:01 pm ET

you rock un breakable be true to you self dont let people stop you writing about michael you loved and admired him to so be strong you
have friends on here he who casts the first stone

lovemj4ever xx

Justice for All!!!   October 3rd, 2009 10:04 pm ET

You let angelwings and heidi post Rhonda's website... but you delete all my posts? Please email me as to why you are doing this. I have been on LKL blogs for over a year not only on the MJ blog... I am going to call in and report this fan abuse...
My messages have all been deleted... WHY?

Idzan Ismail, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia   October 3rd, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Morning everyone


I was given to understand that the person who placed the 911 call was Miko.
There were blogs in Chicago Tribune then saying it was Miko.
I too heard the tape and it sounds like Miko.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Unbreakable and everyone else - I just want peace on the bloggy and every where else. I can't handle conflict.


mjsheerbrilliance   October 3rd, 2009 10:05 pm ET

@Unbreakable- Be proud you helped to make his vision become a reality for all the World to see...Hold on tight to your memories with him ...never let them go.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:06 pm ET

I didn't hear that the caller was Miko. lt doesn't sounded like Miko to me.

Alicia   October 3rd, 2009 10:08 pm ET

how I wish you are MJ.....

Everyone, I am half way through the Tarabourelli book and I find that he portrays all of the incidences in the book very negatively, and only once in awhile begrudgingly throws in something positive. I don't like his portrayal of MIchael. And he seems to write about only the controversial stuff we already know. Some we don't, but......

What to you all think?

Love you Michael, more

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:10 pm ET

where is there conflict? I am not starting anything with anyone.

Yes that did not sound like Miko to me either on the 911 call.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:14 pm ET

I read the Tarabourelli book was another sensational slam. Don't need that – I only want positive / truthful things. I know Michael was no saint but he was a very good person from anything i can see and as far as I'm concerned they have to put forward a boat load of positive to make up for the character assassinations of the past 2 decades. Any Hollywood better come up with something good (not that i'm going to hold my breath) because they owe him big time. maybe Spike can kick a bit of a– to get something or at any rate, I will certainly check out what he has to offer

Lynn   October 3rd, 2009 10:15 pm ET


BTW love your name and the song too, its one of my favorites from Invincible.

Joy   October 3rd, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Eli. I share your view. I can't believe some of this. Fans, these posters are taking advantage of your love for Michael. They seek attention. Employees, friends etc. with any class would not blog in this way. It would be too disrespectful. To claim you shared many good times with Michael but are not close friends is a contradiction. Sorry, that is just how I see it. Also fans, be wary of these so called friendly websites being set up to honor Michael's memory. These are also people trying to profit from Michael's death. They win every time with hits when you visit their website. Honoring Michael's memory is keeping his music alive. I have listened to his music for years and I will continue to listen to his music and watch his videos for years to come. PEACE and LOVE to his kids and family and his closest friends...they know who they are.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Please do not be upset by some of the questions/comments. I speak for myself and tell you that I have heard so many things since Michael died...from news "sources" that were so disturbing and disrespecful to Michael and his family, links to newspaper articles, so called "friends" coming out of the woodwork, an "Informer" and now "mj" trying to convince us that Michael is alive and giving us "secret clues". How insulting to Michael's memory. The "suits" from AEG telling us how healthy he was. Then someone else telling us he wasn't healthy. It just goes on and on.
So I don't know what to believe.
But I do know when I put two pictures of Michael side by side from 1997 and 2009, something is not right. The weight thing is very disturbing and speaks volumes.
Since the day that Michael died, I have been looking for the truth, Michael's truth. That day may not come until there is a trial, and then I know I won't hear the complete truth. I may never know. I do know that Michael is in a better place.
I don't feel that anything will really happen to Murray. I've been a nurse for many years and seen many doctors get away with things that would make the public cringe. I do know that God is in control. My prayers are for his children and their future.
The internet is good and bad...anyone can get on here and say they're this person or that. Even myself.(but I'm such an ordinary truthful person, if I tried to lie on the Internet, I couldn't do it 🙂 )
I say all that to say this, I feel like you are a good person who is being truthful.But once again, on the Internet how do I really know? I just go by my own judgement. I try to find the good in everyone because somewhere deep down, everyone does have good in them.
I'm glad you were a part of Michael's life and made him laugh if only for awhile. He deserved it.
Thank you for the stories you have shared. I can't wait to see more about The Dome Project. Thanks Unbreakable.

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 10:16 pm ET


Anne   October 3rd, 2009 10:19 pm ET

This is totally random.
Michael Jackson should have lived to see his daughter married. She loves him more than anything in this world and her precious father is gone forever.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 10:19 pm ET

Unbreakable- It is ashame you are leaving us because of a few that didn't like hearing what you had to say. You are the closest person we have that could truly answer our questions. But I can see where you won't want to because of the love and freindship you had with Michael. Of course I believe what you are saying. We live in a small world and there is such a thing as 6th degree of seperation. And now because of you and what you have said I am one degree closer to Micheal and to knowing the man behind the legend. Please don't leave us all because of a few.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:22 pm ET

Anne – when I think my husband is not taking good care of himself, that is exactly what I say – do you want to dance at your daughter's wedding or don't you? that usually gets him to pay attention

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 10:26 pm ET

@Unbreakable, sorry I was probably unclear. I enjoyed your comments last night and today, and I'm sorry that you did not feel welcome at the other blog. Sorry for that, ok 🙂 And if you want to discuss that theory some more, well you know where to find me.

I didn't intend to say anyone was starting or participating in conflict. I was trying, and apparently, not doing a very good job of it, to say that I hope everyone who blogs reaspects everyone else. We all used to have good discussions with different viewpoints and we were respectful and friendly and I was saying that I like this bloggy when it is like that. So I am starting with me and I am going to try and make that change.

GENE, please come back, my friend!! 🙂


Bob   October 3rd, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Has anyone seen or heard from Cali fan? It's as if she/he just disappeared completely. Hasn't been seen on the TMZ site recently either and was always there too. Always found Cali's comments very interesting.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:27 pm ET

You can share good times with a person and not be a close personal friend.

I have many good time with many people, yet would never confind info in them or cry on thier shoulder.

Nothing I have said here about Michael was direspectful at all.

I was invited on Larry's show the week MJ died, i declined while everyone else flocked in droves.

me expressing my feeling and exprience's I had with Michael is in no way backstabbing him.

I know some things that I will not ever tell anyone.

I am not asking anyone to believe me, that is not the point. And I don't blame you if you do not, because you are right, the internet can house some pretty scary things.

I mean with people claiming to be MJ and this Informer, I don't blame anyone for not believing me, and truthfully this is why I had not said anything before.

Fearing I would get this reaction.

I know the truth, and all I was doing was sharing the fact that MJ was a wonderful man and he was not knocking on death's door.

Thats all.

I have no motive.

MaryRM   October 3rd, 2009 10:28 pm ET

gonna go off the blog now – got to get some sleep – choir in the morning and training for Free the Children Me to We day in the afternoon.

Then I have to be at the Air Canada Centre at 6:30 monday morning... I'll read what I can and post if I can. But I am excited to get back into the good fight – took time off to recharge the batteries. My daughter is excited because Craig Keilburger the founder of Free the Children is her hero. so I am in her good books too. Make the world a better place AND get in good with my baby girl (ok she is in university). It's a win-win-win situation.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Sometimes you just have to put things into perspective.

Blanket will have the fewest memories because he is only 7. Grace will be the only one who will be able to tell them stories about their childhood because they didn't have a mother. When someone dies it is always nice to hear people tell stories about them especially for children. Like remember the time we did.... no one can do this for them but no one else was there except maybe Grace. Now they will make new memories that do not include Michael.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 10:31 pm ET

Anne- When I heard of Michael's passing that was the one thing that ached my heart the most. The this beautiful man was not going to walk his precious daughter down the aisle.

Anne   October 3rd, 2009 10:32 pm ET

Thanks very much unbreakable for sharing your stories. I appreciate it very much. It just makes it all the more real and all the more painful.

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:33 pm ET

I understand.

And I told you yesterday that I did know the Jackson family, and than today all hell broke loose.

I was going to tell you more last night, but I did have to leave.

This has been bothering me for 3 months, this whole situation.

I don't have any answers.

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 10:36 pm ET

You have said nothing on this blog that was disrespectful to Michael or his family. I appreciate what you have shared with us.

I was speaking about some of the ridiculous, mean spirited stories from our "wonderul" media and yes, by the droves of "friends" including physicians who couldn't wait to tell their story.

The propofol thing is scary...something is still missing.

I am just frustrated...and still heartbroken over this loss.

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 10:36 pm ET

Unbreakable- "And I told you yesterday that I did know the Jackson family, and than today all hell broke loose."


I hope everything is ok.

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 10:38 pm ET


Do you know Miko?

jacqueline   October 3rd, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Good evening Mara how r u tonight?

Mara   October 3rd, 2009 10:43 pm ET

Hi jacqueline!!

It's College Game Day so you know the routine we're having a football pool/jacuzzi party! How are you doing?

mjpyt   October 3rd, 2009 10:45 pm ET

Hi unbreakable apparently not you seem so fragile the vultures attack the weak .they would like to hold the memories you have with mj dont let them be tainted by there jealousy write freely with all the love and compassion you have . dont let them see your soul free as a bird dictators free them selfes but enslave people cherish your memories and hold them dear love and harmony your way.


Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 10:47 pm ET

Hi Mara!


Mara   October 3rd, 2009 10:50 pm ET

Hi Lori JFM

We didn't take our field trip tonight that we talked about last night...

Unbreakable   October 3rd, 2009 10:50 pm ET

I am signing off for the night.

I am pretty sure I will not be back after today.

I have cleared my chest of the things I had kept bottled up for 3 months.

Michael Jackson was not only an Icon but a caring, loving and giving man.

I feel privlaged to have known him, and all I was trying to do was to shed light on how he was.

Don't buy all the bullcrap the media fills your heads with.

I am not here to "want" everyone to believe me, because frankly I would have doubts as well. SO I get that.

Just wait for the movie, and you will see what I am talking about.

Although I do not know what is all in the movie, but when they show all special effects, that was me.

The WOMAN in the LKL blog who spoke about the Dome Project and told you about the CG effects.

Thriller will be one of the best things you will ever see.

There are no clues, nothing to find, nothing to search for.

just pure fun.

I won't give it away, but some of the effects we worked on are AMAZING, and no, I am not bragging:)

This was Michaels dream, he often would say how he could not wait for his kids to see this..All you will see is HIS masterpiece.

Enjoy it and watch it knowing he put EVERYTHING he had into this work of art.
Just keep an open mind with everything you see and hear.

Thank you for talking with me and I hope I shed some much needed light on the way MJ was.

Take care and God bless.

"Michael, you do that again and I'm putting the heel of my shoe thru your eye"

" I am assuming that would be very painful, but I am going to continue doing it because your heels are really loud when you walk"

"Will you stop smacking your gum?"

"Hey now, what do you have aginst Big Red"

I LOVE you Michael and I will NEVER forget a single word or converstaion we shared. May you rest in peace.


Luda   October 3rd, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Seems there is tension in the house ! lol

A lot of sensitivity....

@ LORI, I think it's your birthday today?
So I wish you a happy one! 😉

jacqueline   October 3rd, 2009 10:56 pm ET

doing good Mara just chattin in the chat room you should stop by for a short visit

Luda   October 3rd, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Unbreakable: There are no clues, nothing to find, nothing to search for.

Ah? If I remember well it's not what **mj** said... thought he said there was a big clue... and yesterday he talked about a clue in Thriller.... lyrics....

Who's saying the truth???

But maybe I have a bad memory.... I'm getting old as I'm of those who can remember Michael's lavender hat! LOL

Nature   October 3rd, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Unbreakable, thanks for sharing your memories with Michael. I don't know why people attack you here, you sound very reasonable and credible. I felt he seemed healthy before he died, his last rehearsal footage, the clips from the it's nice to hear from someone who knew him because I was getting confused by the contradictory statements. I didn't quite believe Karen's and some other's claims that he was a frail sickly man. Thanks for sharing, and please keep posting!

lindafromnewyork   October 3rd, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Luda-me too

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Now just watch....maybe The Informer will come on tonight to get things cleared up. 🙂

Thank you Luda – I had an exciting day

Mara – I am so tired – can we make that road trip another day?


Mara   October 3rd, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Lori JFM

Well since it's your early Bday celebration today than I guess we can postpone the field trip. I'm watching the USC game but I see your team won, 28-17!


Okay, I'll try to stop over for a minute if I can get in. So many ppl...sometimes my computer "hags" out however I do leave you messages on "love you more". Miss you girls.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 3rd, 2009 11:24 pm ET

@Mara - do you have the Ducks score?


Mara   October 3rd, 2009 11:29 pm ET

Lori JFM

They are whooping that a** 42-0

Maria G   October 3rd, 2009 11:29 pm ET

unbreakable !!!!!!!!!???

jacqueline   October 3rd, 2009 11:36 pm ET

We miss you to ....You are missing alot tonight!!!

Luda   October 3rd, 2009 11:36 pm ET


yesterday you said you were:

October 2nd, 2009 3:39 pm ET
I really know nothing more than anyone else.
Just a heartbroken fan is all I am..
nothing more.

And to Suzie who asked you if you knew him you said : "I'm just an observer"

Who are you really???

Barbara   October 3rd, 2009 11:39 pm ET

**mj** I just got in and I see that so much has gone on while I was away. Nice to read your posts.

Thanks ☞you da man!

Sandy-Houston   October 3rd, 2009 11:43 pm ET

Happy Birthday! Hope it was a good day!

Patty Anderson   October 3rd, 2009 11:56 pm ET

Hi everyone

Hi Lori I didn't know it was your birthday

Does this make you more of one of hags now? LOl
Hope you had a great one!!!

sarah   October 4th, 2009 12:10 am ET

no TI yet........ :7

Lucero (Mexico)   October 4th, 2009 12:18 am ET

Michael 🙂
You are not alone...
You're always in my heart...
God bless you and your beautiful kids 🙂

I BELIEVE IN GOD !! The truth will prevail.

Rest in peace, Sweet angel 🙂

About Michaels' kids:
Great to see Grace back in their lives, especially for Blanket.
I miss Michael every day. I can't even begin to imagine the loss these children feel. But, thy look good. I hope they are.
I pray the best for these kids.


Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 12:22 am ET

Hello anyone here?

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 12:24 am ET

I am still here - sort of...long day 🙂


Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 12:25 am ET

How's it going Lori hag?

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 12:26 am ET

I'm here too!

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 12:28 am ET

this blog use to be fun-i don't understand all the BS that is going on. We all came on here out of love for Michael Jackson-Michael was all about love-Remember

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 12:29 am ET

simple has a raindrop
lighter than a cloud
heavier than hear ache
faster than sound
heavenly than a rain bow
sweeter than a sigh
more promise than a valentine
as years passes bye
my love for you grows stronger
as nite becomes to day
you are my only one true love
my heart my sweet mj

loveu4ever xx

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 12:32 am ET

Awesome HI Barbara.

Yes Linda I agree totally. These blogs use to be about Michael and the love he gave to us. We arre suppose to share that love and spread it around.

Not come on here and give people false hopes and lies to hold onto. Nor the fighting
Michael was not about fighting and bickering he was about caring, laughing, Joy, fun play love all of it come on people.

Mila   October 4th, 2009 12:36 am ET

Do you know the lady who posted here as Unbreakable ?
If you do, please, say something nice to her – I hate to see people hurt like this.

Thank you for telling us your story and I hope you will come back.

Mila   October 4th, 2009 12:37 am ET

did you write all these verses ? they're beautiful.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 12:38 am ET

Who is this MJ?

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 12:40 am ET

It's simple. Ignore the negative blogs and direct your energy into good things.

Easy to do: angry, insulting comments-scroll over. Intelligent, constructive and kind comments that continue to place Michael and his fans in a positive light-read.

End of story.

Michael ☞You da man!

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 12:41 am ET

I am hanging in here, waiting to see if The Informer will show up and join the party. 🙂 Everyone else has been here. Well except for Gene!!
I really think that this bloggy needs Gene to return and restore the peace. ILYM.


sarah   October 4th, 2009 12:52 am ET

**mj** so glad u came back 🙂

miss u

Marmoura   October 4th, 2009 12:54 am ET


Thank you, thank you so much for sharing your heart. i am so glad you feel safe to do that here. you should always feel safe to share you heart with us. just ignore the nay sayers.

i do wish that you would come back and join us tomorrow and in the coming days. it really does help with the healing process to get your perspective. i'm glad you were able to do some amazing work with Michael! can't wait to see the fruit of your labor and the great vision of Michael!!

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 12:54 am ET

Greeting **mj** Any other news you care to share with us tonight?



Mara   October 4th, 2009 12:55 am ET


I popped in but there was a full house. I'll try again tomorrow...just pls give my love to the 4 that were there from the beginning. Thank you.


How are you tonight? Grace is back in J3's lives? Wow.

Dodie ~ California   October 4th, 2009 12:55 am ET

Very Sad that someone as famous as Michael Jackson can acquire the pharmaceutical drugs he desires and there are MDs desperate for money, willing to oblige him. Propofol should never be used out of the hospital as its primary use is to “stop one’s breathing” You would think Dr. Murray already knew that!

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 12:56 am ET

Hi Mara> Really even after the fight with Rebbie???

Hello mj don't believe I have had the pleasure in meeting you

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 12:57 am ET

Unbreakable, thank you for your kindness in sharing your insights with us. I agree with you, and believe that something awful happened to Michael; I also believe that he was murdered. Unfortunately, it may take years for everything to come to light.

You’re a sweet person for sharing, you must hurt a lot, and I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, and employer. Thank you for caring about Michael, a wonderful man.

May God bless you, Michael, and his family.

(((((Hugs to you)))))

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 12:58 am ET

mara-how is your party

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 12:58 am ET

@ **mj** - the LKL bloggy police don't like it when we post links, FYI.


Marmoura   October 4th, 2009 12:58 am ET


i wish you would come back and join us. ps...i hope your surgery that you mentioned above went smoothly with no complications. May you have a remarkable and swift recovery!

sarah   October 4th, 2009 12:58 am ET

thxs for the link ...**mj**..... ❤

can't wait to see ... 🙂

Mara   October 4th, 2009 12:59 am ET

Hi Patty

How was work? IHUG – I don't know I just read Lucero's comment.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:00 am ET

who is MJ?

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 1:00 am ET

Just curious did you watch paul ogrady
and if so ****im confused and intrigued
what did you think

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:00 am ET

Work was a drag. thanks Big Hag Hug. How ya doin?

Sandy-Houston   October 4th, 2009 1:01 am ET

Beautiful verses.

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:01 am ET

I'll second that Linda

Who is MJ?

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:02 am ET


Which Island?


Im about to shut it down – games over.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:03 am ET

@ **mj** this is hardly "new" news. LOL. It's been posted on the Michael Jackson Hoax Death for quite some time..... I thought that you loved us more because the LKL blogs were the best "LIVE" blogs. Shouldn't we be getting all the information first?

I love you and I know you love us more!


**mj**   October 4th, 2009 1:03 am ET

S T I M U L A T E D . T V


L.O.V.E.U. Michael

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:04 am ET

@Mara - are you hagging out on us? IHYGM


lola   October 4th, 2009 1:05 am ET

I just finished the Taraborelli book too. Yes, there were some negatives, but there were alot of positives too. He leaves alot open for the reader to decide for themselves. I felt he definitely felt the Arvizo family were falsely accusing Michael, but was a bit more uncertain about Jordie. Anyone else read it?

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:06 am ET


wait a second–my dome project?-you're saying you are Michael Jackson?-

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:07 am ET

You asked me, again.. if I believe Michael has died. Yes, Mary. Michael has died. I think you should forgive Michael and move on. I have read your posts. You sound as if you feel abandonded– that Michael left you. He didn't leave you Mary to feel perpetually anguished in his absence... He wants you to know that you will feel some closure when the answers come and justice has been served. Hang in there....

@IRENE, 3:11 p.m.- Irene, It's good to know that you caught my post regarding TMZ. Of course I must agree with you in regards to the media painting their breaking stories in a bolder color- TMZ, no exception of course. However, again, I repeat- EVERYTHING that TMZ has reported- has been accurate. When TMZ is unsure of a report, they will clearly incorporate knowledge that the story has not been confirmed yet. Again, TMZ is run by the most top Hollywood Entertainment Lawyers, including Harvey Levin and they are not foolish enough to risk slander or liability issues. Funny- we never hear TMZ in the news for getting sued for false information.....

@JUDIE- 7:52-
For those of you who are following the Judie/Unbreakable story in the Jax chatroom- I was a witness to the converstaion (excluding the first 10 minutes) and was thoroughly engaged for 2 hours. Judie was completely appropriate and did not ask any questions out of line in the least. There were no attacks (but attacks are personal interpretation), insults, name calling, or any other juvenile behavior one may find in other chat rooms. I myself, participated in asking questions to Unbreakable and when I found the converstaion was no longer productive, like Judie, I just moved along. That's as far as it goes.

@UNBREAKABLE- I'm not quite sure what to make of your commentary, Unbreakable. I am not questioning your business relationship with Michael or otherwise, not because of its validity, but frankly, I could care less. If it's your so desire to share your intimate moments with Michael, your inside jokes, your Dome Project details, his eating habits, etc. then, it's your consitutional right to do so and the loyal Michael fans can process them however they so choose. The only element I challenge in your commentary is that you do paint a flawless picture of Michael- a world of Sunshine and rainbows, but really- that simply was not the case. You did hear, I'm assuming, he died of a drug overdose- a massive drug overdose at that. A drug overdose that is so unusual, the LAPD had no idea how to pursue it for two weeks. A drug addiction so puzzling that even the most credible experts in this field remain baffled to this day. So something tells me that everything was "not okay". I don't care if Michael ate a sandwich- I am not blind- and neither are his fans. Micheal was a performer, Unbreakable... A performer. This has been his unparalleld craft since the age of six. It's quite obvious you value the quality and quantity of time you had with Michael and I am confident that no one would challenge what that really meant to you. I'm not okay, along with many other loyal Michael Jackson fans, that he died- they way he died and the suspicious circumstances surronding his death. It is not fair to loving Michael Jackson fans who are unaware or in denial about his less-than-perfect character. You continue to repeat yourself over and over- " Do not believe the media Do not believe the media", but, what credible source are you? Because you snapped a few pictures of Michael and shared a joke with him that qualifies you to measure the quality of his life? Genuine Michael Jackson fans do not need the media to run to them and tell them what Michael Jackson was like as a human. We all know that he was spectacular..... and magic. We also know that he was in pain, he was suffering and quickly coming apart at the seems- when one is hoarding surgical medication and other sedatives in their closet along with multiple IV stands and oxygen tanks- this not only is indicative of a serious addiction, this also reflects how desperate Michael was to escape, if only for a few hours, the selfish, greedy maliciouis haters that surronded him constantly. Michael is not to blame for his addiction or his other unhealthy behaviors.... as he entrusted- once again- another pluthera of advisors, "medical teams" and other fake entitled haters to his well being. As you suggested in an earlier post, you stated that you were offered a seat on the panel of LKL, however, declined because "that's not what Michael would have wanted" but in the next breath you stated that because it is three months later, it's appropriate to now talk about it. How would one measure a time line in defending our Beloved? I would think that one who was close to Michael, as you suggested, would immediately, without hesitation, without doubt, would instantly accept the offer and defend Michael tooth and nail against the "media" you say we shouldn't believe. There are Michael Jackson fans who just appreciate his music and his talent and that's where it ends. I can say with confidence that most, if not all fans on this blog are a fan of Michael Jackson- the human. That means we must accept Michael for everything he was comprised of through every fiber of his soul; his immaculate talent, his humanitarian gifts, his mysterious but captivating behaviors, and yes, his character defects as well. It's clear after the last trial that a very colosal piece of Michael's soul died. There would never be a tour in the history of this world that would ever bring it back, and perhaps, Unbreakable, deep down you know this is true. If you did indeed have the opportunity to work with Michael like you stated, than that is much more time than most of us will ever spend with him. But time with him or not, that would never ever minimize OUR endless and timeless love and dedication we will ever embrace for the King of Pop.
ihmj xoxo

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:07 am ET

@lola and Alicia - I just recieved the J. Randy T. book as a birthday gift.

@ **mj** Is it worth the time to read it??


Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:08 am ET

Hello MMJ - you hag! IHYGM. Where have you been?


Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:09 am ET

**mj** how are the kids?

Hope the family is fine too.

Michael ☞ you da man!

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:09 am ET


Feeling good right about season, football pool parties etc..and I'm blogging/chatting lol

IHYI is a new one ask MJJ. I also have this one HAGalicious.

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:11 am ET

I hear ya Mara.

IHYI MMMM is it kinky???? LOL

sarah   October 4th, 2009 1:12 am ET

@ yes lindafromnewyork.... coz the clues **mj** gaves us on previous post got a think for a second, check **mj** post if they already hadn't taken it down......... ..... there always a possibility of "WHAT IF".... 🙂 i so do believe ......................

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:12 am ET

I read the Taraborelli book. I liked it-especially the pictures.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:13 am ET

Lori JFM

I followed your HAGNESS over here. I can't be here and there and everywhere..

Are you staying here??

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:13 am ET

Excellent MMJ I love your posts. How ya doin?

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 1:14 am ET

I missed **mj**'s link. What was it about?

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:15 am ET

So mj Is Michael Jackson??? Am I reading this correctly?

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:16 am ET

are you saying you are michael jackson–i don't want any clues-just a simple yes or no answer

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:16 am ET


{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ HAG HUGS }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

No One was in Jax earlier!
Lori- you are a RIOT! I love your commentary!
Linda- I'm asking myself the same question- who is mj? Must be Marlon Jackson.
Patty- How was work? You work too......... much. (give yourself a hag hug)

xoxo ihmj

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:17 am ET

hi mmj

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:18 am ET

Back at ya MMJ ((((((((((((Big Hag Hug)))))))))))))))
I do work too much dragggggggg

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 1:19 am ET


Which Island?


Im about to shut it down – games over.
Hi Linda, I'm a fan of Anne of Green Gables. Island refers to Prince Edward Island. The setting for L. M. Montgomery's Anne books. 🙂

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:20 am ET

@Mara, my hag, I am able to be in two places at once. It is a function of my HAGaliciousness. 🙂 Be aware that IHYGFAA. So I think I will continue to inhabit both venues. But, as always, majority rules. So wherever you go, there will go I also.



Lois   October 4th, 2009 1:20 am ET

L.O.V.E. - positive energy .......>>>>>>>

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:21 am ET


No it's not bad it's just another part of the body organs. LOL

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:23 am ET

{{{{{{{{{{ MARA }}}}}}}}}

You hagalicious party harty hagbag host! How is your party? I want to be there with you listening to Blood on the Dancefloor right now! (LOVE HAGALICIOUS- Only you Mara! Did you think of this one during your detox?)
IHYI- Hmmm... I'm stuck
I (don't say the "h" out loud, we know what it is) you informer?

@ PATTY ANDERSON- MJ is Marlon Jackson Not Michael Jackson Thank you, i'ts good to hear that you enjoy them (the posts)- just speaking from my heart- and for Michael.

@ Barbara- I read the Tarroborelli book too. I liked it as well- Just so you know, Michael gave the blessing for the book (he did read it).

@ SARAH- Are you a believer? What do you mean by "What if"?

ihmj xoxo

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:23 am ET

Ok Mara organ with an I Intestine? EWE LOL

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:23 am ET


shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:25 am ET

@**mj**... It is very Cool.. 🙂 The website.. 🙂

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:25 am ET

I am so hoping that we will be graced with a visit from The Informer tonight. It has, after all, been one H.E. double hocky-sticks of a week and we could all use some insight. How about it TI - I double-dog dare you! I know its a breach of protocol, but I thought I would just get to the heart of the matter. 🙂


**mj**   October 4th, 2009 1:26 am ET


Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:27 am ET

Thanks for clarifying that MMJ. That's a relieve.

Hagalicious. I LOve IT!!!

Night all I'm tired see all my favorite has tomorrow.

We need our conference hags to get this going.

Night Linda take care of that wrist.

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:27 am ET

Good night LInda- Have a hagless night. Hope you are feeling much better! YOU put up a great fight Linda- you do not back down. Michael needs you right now...!

ihmj xoxo

shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:27 am ET

OH gosh I cant believe I am talking to you guys!

GemaLoves Michael.   October 4th, 2009 1:28 am ET

** mj**
I will support you in EVERYTHING.

Your loyal Gema.

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 1:28 am ET

mj yes what what to Lindas question?

Marmoura   October 4th, 2009 1:29 am ET

MourningMJ – I did not get the sense reading anything from Unbreakable that she was magnifying her experience with Michael as superior to ours as fans. She was sharing her heart and giving simply her opinion.

It seems like any answer or reflection she would give is damned.

I am glad she had first hand experience working with Michael and felt like she could tell us about him. We should be thankful for that rather than condemning.

tatiana   October 4th, 2009 1:29 am ET

Love you more

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:30 am ET


Patty you are soooo funny! I was only kidding about Marlon Jackson- I but "" **mj** "" wants you to believe, it's....ya know.... Our guy, Michael.

xoxo ihmj

sarah   October 4th, 2009 1:30 am ET

**mj** i am we are so happy that you are posting more..... 100% with u..... rock on.....

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:30 am ET


Well then, thanks for the confirmation. I love you!


shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:30 am ET

**mj** Oh dear.. I'll forever love you! 🙂

Mila   October 4th, 2009 1:30 am ET

**mj** are you going to public reveal that you're alive on Christmas day ?

shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:31 am ET

Hey Mila... Slowly.. 🙂

Mila   October 4th, 2009 1:33 am ET

Why ?
I think that's what he meant by the countdown starting on 25th of September – it was exactly 3 months from his death so counting it back down another 3 months – it's Xmas

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:34 am ET

Some people think that the book is not good. That it depicts a negative picture of Michael. I did not find that. I thoroughly enjoyed reading each chapter and was actually surprised at some of the details that were included!It had over 700 pages, but I started and finished the book in three days.

I also enjoyed the final chapter where Taraborelli wrote about his friendship with Michael and how Michael's death affected him.

When I put the book down, I had to sit in silence for awhile and reflect on what I had just read. It touched me.

I would recommend it. Two thumbs up!

...Peace ✌

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 1:34 am ET

**mj** Stimulated tv looks impressive. Thank you. L.O.V.E. back you with a ((((Hug)))).

shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:34 am ET

Hahaha... 🙂 OH .... (*^-^*) Maybe a Christmas gift... 🙂

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 1:34 am ET

**MJ** i love you so much did you like my verses to you
you rock my world

loveu4ever xx

jacqueline   October 4th, 2009 1:35 am ET

I Will Always Be There

Love You More

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:35 am ET

Lori JFM

lmao – I got the IHYG part but the AA (Alcoholic Annonymous)??

IHYG 3x's...And remember you said IHY Intestines..lmao (the one on the right side)?
Goodnight Patty
Have a hag of a Sunday!




If you're reading jump in...

BRB gotta pay attention to the HAGboyfriend for a minute....

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:35 am ET


thanks for answering my question

so if you are alive why should I bother going to see This It It

I was going because it wast your last performance

Babs   October 4th, 2009 1:35 am ET

**mj** man oh man you are the man... love to be inside your head!
When will the Dome Project be done? Will this be for next year? Hey hey,"remember the times" you were in WDW Orlando... I do... I work there for many yrs... remember seeing you there several times. Missing you alot from Orlando... bring back Capt. EO not just to Cal. but Orlando too! It will be grrrrrrreat!
Come back and Heal the World... you know we need it!
Love you, Babs

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:36 am ET

@Barbara - thanks for the spoiler alert! My little nieces were so excited to have found me the perfect present!! I may take them to see a showing of "THIS IS IT" os they know what their auntie has been talking about all summer long.


MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:37 am ET

Hi. I never suggested that Unbreakable magnified her experiences at all. You wont' or cannot find that in my commentary. Like I said, frankly, I could care less either way- I'm indifferent if she spent time with him or not. The message of my post goes deeper than you suggested- Unbreakable instructed us not to listen to the media-along with other questionable comments- I simply requested her to answer the questions I asked of her. (as you can see in my above post). That's all.
ihmj xoxo

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 1:38 am ET

Prince Edward Island (P.E.I.) , Canada, the setting for the Anne Books (Anne of Green Gables by L.M. Montgomery), one of my favourite 'childhood' authors. (Hence, the name I choose, AnneoftheIsland)

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:39 am ET

Remember, it all about love. L.O.V.E. 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:39 am ET

got it

sarah   October 4th, 2009 1:40 am ET

@ lindafromnewyork, OMG u should see it no matter what , Its MIchael Jackson we talking about, who knows in those rehearsal footage we might see something new exciting cool moves, songs..much more ..etc...... 🙂

shadow_dancer   October 4th, 2009 1:40 am ET

OH well I hope **mj** would still be online.. 🙂
I will be working my final examss... and I'll be back.. again!

Hey **mj** I DO BELIEVE IN MIRACLES you know... 🙂 And When I wish on a star It might come true.. Maybe someone I was wishing to be here would also some around... 🙂

You became a great inspiration to me.. I hope you to have a good night/day.. 🙂 See Ya later!

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 1:42 am ET

OMG someone hit me with the hag stick!
ihyg ihyi ihyui ihyli ihy entire gastroenterological area!!
(hagboyfriend?) OMG! LOVE that!

ihmj xoxo

ibelieve   October 4th, 2009 1:44 am ET

@ *mj*
My question, is "Dome Project" and "This is It" one and the same?
After all, once you mentioned the Stimulated.TV it changed to add "This is It" to their current projects, within the last few days.
Once an MJ fan, always an MJ fan! L.O.V.E. you Michael! (more) (ha, beat you to it this time!)

Lois   October 4th, 2009 1:45 am ET

Linda NY – maybe it is his last performance....maybe he is going onto big and better things ..... 2 Bad though (Mike's Bad)... 🙂

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:45 am ET

sarah–I know who we are talking about-
i asked mj that question-

if he is still alive why should i go see this is it-mj why?

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 1:46 am ET

**mj** Does Larry King know your on his blog? 🙂

Mila   October 4th, 2009 1:48 am ET

I wish you would be friendlier to the rest of the bloggers – your message to Unbreakable was very hostile.
It should be OK for people to share memories of Michael that contradict your theory that he was a drug addict. They may be right or they may be wrong but as long as they are saying what they sincerely believe to be true I value their views and I'm interested to hear them out.

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:48 am ET

Larry King knows all. After all it is HIS bloggy. Larry would you please locate Gene for us and ask him to please return to the scene of the crime. The MJCSI are lost without him and we area calling his name. 🙂


lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:48 am ET

Hi lois

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:48 am ET

@ Lori-great! I am sure they will soon discover why Aunt Lori is fascinated by Michael Jackson!

My six year old niece saw me dancing to the Thriller video and she and I tried to imitate all the moves. We couldn't keep up-the dancing was so fast, and I've got two left feet!

Now when she comes over to my house, she asks if I can play the song with the dead people dancing hip hop. lol

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 1:53 am ET

"@ lindafromnewyork, OMG u should see it no matter what , Its MIchael Jackson we talking about, who knows in those rehearsal footage we might see something new exciting cool moves, songs..much more ..etc…… "

Well said, Sarah.:)

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 1:53 am ET




Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 1:55 am ET

I was so hoping for a birthday visit from The Informer B) oh well...there is still some time until the 8th.


lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:56 am ET

why is everyone answering me except mj

mj-are you still with us sweetie–Should I see the movie?

Lois   October 4th, 2009 1:57 am ET

Hi Linda 😉

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 2:00 am ET


Of course you should see the movie. It is Michael's work. Something he put his all into. To see his talent, his genuis, his love, to hear his voice again and the music like never before. To see his face, his smile, his moves and yes maybe even the gold pants. Please what is not to love.

Lois   October 4th, 2009 2:00 am ET

SMILE - what's the use of crying?

Just smile....

Good Night all 🙂

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 2:01 am ET

Two more blogs on LKL.

jacqueline   October 4th, 2009 2:01 am ET

Well said Maria!!!!!!

jacqueline   October 4th, 2009 2:03 am ET

Good night Lois ...sleep well

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 2:04 am ET

Happy Birthday Lori!!!!!!!


MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 2:06 am ET

I'm sorry you feel that my posts are not viewer friendly to some. That would fall into the category of selective reading then. If you read my post with an open mind, you would simply see that I requested some information, which I found conflicting- simply for clarification. Additionally, it's not my "theory" that Michael was addicted to drugs- he was. I do not love him any less. He is not less spectacular or magical as before. It just means he is human- and guess what? We found out. You're sweet, Mila. It's refreshing to know you are interested in everyone's feedback. So am I- that's why... I ask questions. Take care.
ihmj xoxo

Anneoftheisland   October 4th, 2009 2:07 am ET

Goodnight, Larry, and alll!!!!! 🙂

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 2:09 am ET

of course i am going to see the movie--got my ticket at 11:58PM on sunday

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 2:16 am ET

i still would like you to answer me-why

Lori - Justice For Michael   October 4th, 2009 2:17 am ET

@linda NY - I guess MJ is a man of few words. Keep asking and maybe you will get your answer.


marguerite   October 4th, 2009 2:39 am ET

Hi everyone

Maria   October 4th, 2009 2:39 am ET

@ MourningMJ:

I realized Unbreakable won't talk at all about addiction issues when she said "I do not know anything about any drugs he may or may not have been taking, and if I did that is not something I would write about."

I think she came here right now because she wanted to react to what Karen Faye&This Is Not It fans keep saying these days – 1) that MJ was controlled, terrorized, forced to do things (some say he was intentionally drugged) and slowly murdered by AEG and perhaps Sony; 2) that MJ was excessively skinny, and if this autopsy report is being released now, then it's because AEG concocted it.

When I first saw her posts, I knew she wasn't a troll like TI or mj, but I wondered if she is here with the purpose to defend indirectly and subtly the people accused by This Is Not It fans of MJ's death. I'm skeptical about what these fans say, so I paid extra attention to Unbreakable's arguments.

I'm not 100% sure what to believe, but I don't think she is here to lie or confuse people. And if she doesn't talk about drugs, it's either because she didn't see anything suspect while she saw him or because she doesn't want to talk about it at all, as her words quoted above seems to suggest.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 2:51 am ET

Susan62509 (7:02 am ET): Right.
But who's this man, a bad joke?
The infamous Stacy Brown reported on June 25 such astonishing things (found on

Michael Jackson has died in Los Angeles after suffering a heart attack at home with his father and his personal magician, Times-Shamrock Newspapers has confirmed.

Times-Shamrock has learned from Kenichi Sugihara, publisher of the book "Michael Jackson: The Man behind the Mask," that a hospital nurse who was a source for the book confirmed Mr. Jackson's death

Mr. Jackson, 50, suffered a massive heart attack and was taken by ambulance to UCLA Medical Center, according to Tohme Tohme, a Jackson spokesperson and confidante. Medical officials attempted to resuscitate him

Mr. Jackson was at home visiting with his father and his personal magician, Majestic Magnificent, when he had the heart attack.

He arrived at the hopital unconscious but alive, said brother-in-law Nathaniel Brown.

my love for u   October 4th, 2009 3:08 am ET

hi every 1

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 3:10 am ET

@MARIA- RE: 2:39 a.m.

I agree with you on several points, Maria- I never thought for even a second, that Unbreakable would even qualify in the category of TI or **mj**- I do not even entertain their worthless comments.

I also, like you, read Unbreakables posts, from beginning to end and even chatted with Unbreakable in a chat room last night for approximately two hours.

I'm skeptical, like you, to believe specific details of fans "time with MJ' for several reasons, some I mentioned in the aforementioned posts. When Unbreakable made her very first post- I even commented on how unique and cool her screenname was- that Michael would have loved it. I also, like you Maria, take a very detailed inventory on blogger's posts. Details are critical when you are suggesting as something as high profile as engaging in project activity with Michael Jackson..
So, I read and read and read. It would have made sense for Unbreakable to simply identify her relationship with Michael from the very beginning, rather than playing the cat and mouse game keeping fans of this blog in suspense (myself excluded) with comments such as "I said to much" "I can't say anymore" "I wont' say anything else", etc. Then after declaring that she isn't allowed to reveal any additional information, goes on to contradict everything in her previous statements by telling us everything. That leaves me.... well, kind of suspicious.
Additionally, Maria, Unbreakable also stated in the chatroom yesterday that she believes Jermaine Jackson could be responsibile for Michael's death as well. That's when I closed my conversation with her because that suggestion is just simply outlandish. And she was clearly serious about her accusations. There were several other guests in the room who witnessed this accusation as well.
Furthermore, I am not even interested in the results of the autopsy that was released by the AP for several reasons, the most important is that it was leaked by a third party to the AP- and the LA coroner office released a statement that there were NO authorized releases of this autospy report other than to the LAPD and DA office.
I wouldn't expect her to speculate on Michael's drug use or lack thereof. My commentary on his drug addiction was brief, but relevant- It just doesn't make sense why one was offered a seat on a panel of LKL to defend MJ in front of the nation would decline but then take it to a blog and compensate. We do not need anyone to defend MJ- this is not a public court of opinion in the case of Michael Jackson. We are all on HIS side in here. That is implied. I also do not believe that she is trying to confuse us, either. I'll leave that up the so called "medical team" when they attempt to explain why the blood of Michael Jackson in on their hands.
ihmj xoxo

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 3:19 am ET

@ My love for U-
Hello- Haven't seen you on here before. Welcome!
whmj xoxo

marguerite   October 4th, 2009 3:58 am ET

MMJ- who is this Eli person? Have you seen this person here before? He/She sure was pissed at unbreakable gving out info that was not to be given out. Why not come right out from the get go about who she/he (unbreakable) is? Now if unbreakable really is who she/he claim to be then they wouldn't give out the info here when they had been told to keep their mouths shut. This is just my opinion.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:01 am ET

good morning ladies

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:04 am ET

Ok, thank again, MOURNINGmj – good to know TMZ is a bit more factual than I thought.

Im having difficulties keeping up with all the comments....... – so many.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:06 am ET

that dancer timor **mj** is talking about he didnt say anythin on the duch tv when he had an interview whit michael about it all he said
that michael had a parfum on that smells a lot and michael notice that timor was joking about
so the next day michael had another parfum on

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:08 am ET

and that working with michael was great but he didnt say anything
that he was thin or frail

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:12 am ET

Lisa S & Mourningmj,

Perhaps you are right about Jermaine.

Possible 'clashes' were ten years ago; things change.
Besides that, I have difficulties with my dad for example, but that does not mean I DONT LOVE him.

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:16 am ET


I am sorry, but if you say certain things, put so much attention on yourself, be so 'defensive', of course people are gonna say something.

I am sorry, if you ARE someone close to the family, then I am wrong – but, I have a weird feeling when I read your comments.

Samanthaaaa, how are you.....???! 😀

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:18 am ET

Cocovelvet!! YES!!

"Mockery" of our feelings:

I did not want to say it, but this **mj* person is probably just a bored employee from CNN.

Cant blame them – we do JUST tend to BELIEVE anything thats put on our plate.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 4:19 am ET

Mourning MJ

Re autopsy: I'm not interested either. I posted my little theory on this report at the end of the previous blog (Michael Jackson Was Reportedly Healthy At Time Of Death), so I won't insist on that. At this point I don't expect other things than leaked reports and incomplete information (things that can't jeopardize the investigation). For example, the full toxicology report, distinct from the autopsy report, is indeed protected and I'm sure it won't be leaked to anyone until the investigation is completed.

Re Unbreakable: My feeling was that she kinda struggled with herself and at first didn't want to reveal who she is (I mean what qualifies her to say "I know for sure that he wasn't so skinny" etc) and only after a while she got upset with what others said (for ex. that she is the Informer or Gene etc) and decided to tell her story, to convince people she isn't an imposter.

I have no idea what to make of the LKL invitation, especially since she said she had been posting here before MJ's death, on other topics. Maybe she emailed LKL and told them what she knew?

As for Jermaine, did she offer any arguments? Because I've seen other fans too who accuse Jermaine or Joe of being guilty of his death, only because they "feel" that this is true. On the other hand, how it is compatible with her accusing Sony of being guilty? Maybe she will want to explain all this when she comes back here.

ilym xoxo

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:25 am ET

I have read later posts of you just now.
If that is true, then I feel better about you.
Im sorry you lost your friend on june 25th.
Nice to have you here & sorry.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:26 am ET

everyone is welcome here even **mj**

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:30 am ET

irene leuk je te zien ik kom uit helmond

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:32 am ET

i have to go to another blog this one is not working for me sorry

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:33 am ET

Mary RM,

I agree, me too did not even think about the music, but about this sweet sweet sweet person....... that so many (of us) felt connected with... because... we are sweet ourselves... I think.
We recognized something in him. And he knew that. He KNEW we loved him.

He knew he was 'hated' by many, but loved by soooo many.

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:38 am ET

Karen, is one of the ones I would really trust.

Bless you, Karen.

Mark H. says hi to you. (History, Amsterdam hotel the Grand, Neverland Liz Elephant marriage, your ex hubby).

Mark has told me so many times youre one of the sweetest.

* * * * * * * *


irene   October 4th, 2009 4:39 am ET


I agree. Its nonsense. This **mj**

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:44 am ET


I learn from your intelligent comments.
I admire you.

Angie-Poland   October 4th, 2009 4:48 am ET

How does it feel...when ur alone and ur cold inside...

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:54 am ET


& what LISA S.

said earlier,

I do not think either that implying Michaels health was 'flawless' is a good and RESPONSIBLE way to describe him.

The fact that he physically was fine – the outside – does not mean anything.

If you need so much stuff to go to sleep, have such a high tolerance, then there is something wrong with your (mental) health. Besides that, these pills make you a bit 'clowdy' during the day. It does NOT make you any more balanced. I know that from my own experience, as Ive had sleeping problem earlier, for years. (Thank god, not anymore due to a good doctor who prescribes me anti depressants – just like for so many others).

"Mental illness" – big word – call it "mental instability" is NOT a bad word, or doesnt make anyone 'less' as a person- as implied earlier, looking at the defensive comments.

Michael HAD symptoms of depression; a lot of people have that. In more or less words, he even said this himself!!

Some people have heart problems, some have a chemical imbalance in their brain (causing depressing, sleeping problems, anxiety etc).


jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 4:56 am ET

sorry my computer doesnt work on this blog

irene   October 4th, 2009 4:58 am ET



1.07 hrs. 4 octobre,

what an argument.

Amazed. Thank you!

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 5:01 am ET

Yes, as was said by Elvis image is one thing..........but a person is is very hard to live up to an image.

I would like to think they are still alive and I could understand.

Unbreakable does sound like someone close.........thanks for the enlightment.

Will wait and see.

irene   October 4th, 2009 5:04 am ET

Hoi Jaqueline, groetjes uit Amsterdam 🙂

irene   October 4th, 2009 5:05 am ET

... and I've read everything....

.. and... I do not trust Unbreakable...

Sorry, for hurting your feelings. But this IS a democratic tool, right?

irene   October 4th, 2009 5:08 am ET

Ps. "Metally Ill / Mentally instable / Mentally not doing so well as could have",

are NO synonyms (?) for CRAZYNESS or something. They are NOT the same.

I think a lot of people misinterpreted these.

irene   October 4th, 2009 5:15 am ET


@ "Doc sent propofol to girlfriends house".

I do not agree that the interview with Oprah '93 made him go down hill – as if he himself had something to do with the people attacking and accusing him.

Michael was so beautiflul and true there, he was courages in being so honest, and just himself.

Does showing youself the way you are – sensitive / vulnerable – give someone else the right to make advantage of that....???

Interesting Logic.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 6:14 am ET

I was agree many things,you said,But i dont understand this part,that you say,you knew Michael.If you knew Michael,i am sure,it was not some close thing,couse you dont know any more,then we doo.Thats ok,nothing wrong with it.But why are you saying,that you said too much,or you should not say more,then you allredy said.You didnt say anything new information...For me you are a same fan,like all of us.Just live this things,that you knew Michael,and you allredy said tomuch,couse you didnt say nothing,that is information.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 6:15 am ET

But for everybody,we should not attack each other!

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 6:17 am ET

Linda,ofcorse,you should go,and woch the movie.It is Michael work,dont metter,if somebody think,its not the lost one.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 6:17 am ET

mjpyt,are you the piterpanpyt form myspace?

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 6:18 am ET

Good Day All

Alicia   October 4th, 2009 6:23 am ET

@MourningMJ, I am not questioning your credibility, and maybe you answered this question somewhere on the blog, but I am curious as to how you "know" so much about Michael Jackson. E.g. you 'know' he was addicted to drugs, you 'know' he is dead, etc. Just by research or are you connected in some way to him/his family?

Miss you Michael.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 6:29 am ET


I think Mourning MJ has been reading between the lines and is very knowledgeable with regards to the way in which Michael led his life but I think she is just a fan like the rest of us but a pretty sharp one at that!

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 6:43 am ET

I thought comments are moderated by CNN. So how can this **mj**
person come on here and claim this. I hope you can get some answers on this Eli as it appears we could be being made fools of.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 6:48 am ET

Jessie,i dont believe MJ is a life antil i dont see pruve,but i respect,that many peaples doo,and like **mj** .**mj** didnt use any bad words,or didnt say anything bad about anybody.

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 6:51 am ET

I think we better not mention alive or dead conspiracies as could be a touchy subject here.

Allure   October 4th, 2009 6:53 am ET

Hi girls 🙂
something new?

Stu! 🙂
we missed u, all at once u were gone......

Allure   October 4th, 2009 6:54 am ET

Samantha HI
wonderful clip

Allure   October 4th, 2009 6:57 am ET

MMJ, good morning!
Unbreakable was there? I left too early....... 😦

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 6:58 am ET

Everyone on Twiiter is saying that Maya Angelou is dead.Has anyone here heard anything about this?

Allure   October 4th, 2009 7:07 am ET

Eli is on this blog since the very beginning, she's a smart girl, she has her own opinion and is not afraid to tell it, she always provides us with reliable information.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 7:08 am ET

Hi Allure!I am sory.I was gonna come back.I had to go with my son ,couse he whanted to sleap,but i alvais fol a sleap with hem 😕

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 7:09 am ET

Whu is this Maya

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 7:13 am ET


Maya Angelou is a Pulitzer prize winning author and poet.She is the woman who wrote the beautiful poem for Michael & was read out by Queen Latifah at the memorial.

Allure   October 4th, 2009 7:13 am ET

Stu 🙂

marguerite   October 4th, 2009 7:16 am ET

Allure– Thank you.

Jessie– Everyone has the right to voice their opinions, whatever they might be.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 7:19 am ET

Thanks Samantha!

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 7:33 am ET

I just read trough this night bloging.
I dont know,what to say.I am trieing to be open minde for everithing.I dont believe in the hoax,but why i understand the peaples,who believe it,couse everything around Michael death is wrong,and sins that still everything is wrong.We cant finde in the whole storie 1 point,that is correct.Even the peaples,who give reports saying all diferent,and Murray is still free after all.
I dont know,who is **mj**.Whenn i thinking trough the storie with my brain,i cant believe,its realy Michael,but becouse all this problems with the storie,sometimes a have this feeling,what,if its hem?We see a video about hemwhenn is icolated from the world to that hotel,and he had some smol motor,he was use in the hole,couse he was so bored,and have some videogames and mapetts.If its like that again,mybe he whant to talk to peaples.But hen again,i am thinking of hes funeral,and i cant believe it,that he would fule everybody there.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 7:35 am ET

And i dont think,it would be the way to come back form this situation.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 7:41 am ET

Just did some 'research' and the theater group which is to screen THIS IS IT across America,Regal Entertainment is owned by none other than the owner of AEG,Philip Anshutz.Seems like these idiots want to 'cash in' from every possible angle.!!

After all the recent revelations this past week,I'm having two minds about watching the movie as I would rather take the money and donate it to one of Michael's charities instead.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 7:47 am ET


I'm replying to your post from way above.Anyways,I'm well & how have you been doing?

Yes,I also trust Karen as she has known Michael for over 25 years and knew him better than most.

Also,you posted your email add sometime back and I didn't get a chance to take it down,could you please do so again.

Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 8:32 am ET

This blog was busy while I was sleeping! So many interesting comments.

I just have to share that yesterday and last night I spent an incredible amount of time with some very young folks – 10 to 14 year olds and they have just discovered Michael Jackson. They are so blown away by his talent and really seem to know nothing of his problems with the media. I was a bit surprised by that, but was sweetly reminded that that was exactly why Michael trusted and loved children. They seem to be able to see through the garbage and appreciate the positive. I came upon this discovery by accident when I took them to dinner and of course, my Michael Jackson CD came on. They said, "Turn it up!" I mean my car was rockin'! They had nothing but endless compliments for Michael like, "He can really dance, how does he do that?" "I have never seen anyone dance like that, I mean his moves you cannot copy!" "His voice can reach such heights and depths" "His music has so much layering!" (that comment from a 14 yo!). They could not contain themselves and we spent the dinner looking at YouTubeona Blackberry and then came home to spend 2 hours discussing what I knew about Michael. It was exciting and the first time I have felt some real joy since his death. The only possibly negative comment I got was from one child about Michael's skin color, but I was able to show him my vitiligo and explain how in show business, skin discoloration could be something you would want to correct which they seem to appreciate my explanation and wanted to know more about vitiligo.

The great thing is ... we will all be together again this afternoon in my car for 2 hours so we will be rockin' and singin' again to Michael Jackson. Thank you, Michael, for the JOY!

Sandy-Houston   October 4th, 2009 8:34 am ET

Mourning MJ – 3:10am-

Now you've got me thinking....I was too tired and frustrated las tnight.

SnowFlake   October 4th, 2009 8:39 am ET

How is it possible to have that kind of medication sent to a private home adress in another state by fedex? How can Murray even buy that kind of "strictly for hospital use medication" over desk or by mailorder from a pharmacy? And the amount of propofol bought sounds like a lot to me. Why didn´t the pharmacy react on this?

Sandy-Houston   October 4th, 2009 8:40 am ET

Mourning MJ 1:07am-

You're a smart person.I wished I had been on the chat room and read the conversation going on.

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 8:43 am ET

morning campers hi di hi

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 8:48 am ET

Victoria,very nice experiance!Show them sa much you can.This yung genaration have to know Michael,and we are the ones,who can teach them for that!

Sandy-Houston   October 4th, 2009 8:52 am ET

Time for church and choir...hope you all have a great Sunday!!
(I hope I've practiced enough 🙂 )

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 8:54 am ET

Hi mjpyt!I was uske d yuo earlier,maybe you didnt see it... Are you piterpanpyt form myspace?

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 8:57 am ET

Hi stu what makes you think that but to your question no im not but nice to hear from you any way

much love peas rule

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 8:58 am ET

🙂 just becouse of your name... Nothing else.

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 9:02 am ET

ok stu i was just intrested why you wanted to know so thxs for replying

Morphine   October 4th, 2009 9:08 am ET

To **mj**

I think you're having a great time. Just FUN.

If you are really the person who we would want you to be, why are you telling us the things we already know?

You wrote about "Stimulated", but all we need to do is just visit their site and we'll get the info...

You're telling nothing new, my friend.

By the way, I'm surprised because comments here are moderated and someone like you is still here.

Tunde,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 9:10 am ET

mjpyt,dou you olso believe **mj** is Michael?

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 9:16 am ET

Do you guys think,the reports here changeing to be positiv,and olso going to the way in this kace,that this is not Michael folt?Maybe something is going on behinde the woles,and we got to know about the investigateing that who killed Michael?

FeejeeMermaid   October 4th, 2009 9:20 am ET

Are you guys prepared? October is going to be an interesting month.

FeejeeMermaid   October 4th, 2009 9:30 am ET

Regarding TMZ...

Barnum knew the power of mystery. An unemployed man came to his museum and asked Barnum for a job. Barnum handed the man five bricks and instructed him to solemnly place the bricks in various places around the outside of the museum. As he went from spot to spot, he was to replace the brick at each spot with another one that he was carrying. He was to answer no questions, speak to no one, and seem to be deaf and dumb. Once an hour, he was to enter the museum, walk right next to the ticket taker, seem to pay the fee, and then proceed through the museum and out the door. A crowd began to form, watching the man and wondering what he was doing. Many of the crowds followed him into the museum just to see what was going on. In fact, the police had to ask Barnum to stop the man, because the crowds that he was creating were stopping traffic.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 9:39 am ET

Let me just clarify some things.

When I said things like "i have said to much already" I was meaning I gave myself a limit on what I was going to share. I wanted people to know or understand that I knew things witout having to go into any sort of detail..But as the comments kept coming, and i ketp revealing more, I thought i had better tell my story so I could clear up any confusion as to who I was or what my motive was.

I was never told I could not speak about Michael. I was a free lance worker, I did not work for the company who put on The Dome project. I was hired by Michael, my checks came from HIS accounts, not the accounts of the compamy doing TDP.

I was contacted by CNN because some of the people involved knew I had worked there. I did not contact them. CNN at some point were trying like hell to get anyone on the show that knew MJ at all.

That is all.

I am not going to dignify the drug questions whatsoever.

Two things I will not speak about.

His children..and his drug use.

Nothing I have said in any way has been disrecpectful to Michael at all.

I never said the man was not flawed. I was not trying to paint this picutre of him as anything other than a human.

I witnessed some bad times for him, sure, but that is not something I will ever talk about. Because I am not here for that purpose.

All i wanted to do was clear up a couple issues and that is all.

And YES I said I think Jermaine is involved, and I have my reasons for thinking so. I am not saying I am right. Never claimed it as factual.

But I did hear things, that is all.

If you do not believe me, that is something that does not concern me at all. What concerns me are people telling lies about MJ.

If my story seems to weird, I am sorry.

I was not ever going to reveal that I knew him. That is why I would always avoid the question. But it came down to that I really felt I needed to tell you part of who I was and what I saw, so you would understand why I knew the things I did.

I was not MIchael's BFF. I never said that. In fact I said it over and over.

We shared some private things. He did tell me things that are way too personal that even on my death bed would never reveal to anyone. Things I have never een told my husband.

Unlike some of MJ "real friends" I am taking those conversatioons with great pride and keeping them to myself, which is what some of his real buddies should have been doing.

Only things I was revealing were good, postive things.

I am not out to make a dime, or to sell MJ out.

And yes, i was offered a nice some of money to appear on not only this show, but two other ones. To me, that is selling MJ out and that is NOT how I roll.

I will NOT be tricked into saying unflattering thiings about Michael.


no amount of money would ever break the trust he put in me when he told me some of the things he did.

Believe what you will, I am not here to try and MAKE you believe me.

I did not know any of the dancers or anyone doing the show with him. We never interacted.

When I was at rehearals it was mostly backstage and working with computers and such...times I was sitting in the crowd watching way in the back.

MJ had only been rehearsing at the staples center for around 2 weeks. So out of the two weeks he had been there, I was there I would say 5 times. and only one time did I see the dancers.

I was NOT involved with the show at all. Only The DOme Project.

MJ had bought my family and I tickets to his opening show, including the air fare. I joked around with him that on what he was paying me I was not sure I would be able to afford my flight home from CA when we were done..(joking around, i was paid very well)

So if you chose not to belive me, that is ok.

At the end of the day, I know what I know.

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 9:39 am ET


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 4th, 2009 9:39 am ET

Unbreakable in one of her posts above:

"I was invited on Larry’s show the week MJ died, i declined while everyone else flocked in droves".

Unbreakable, since apparently you declined Larry's invitation to come to the show just because others flocked in droves, you can now reveal your true identity here with us. We don't have any others around here that say, flocking in, they knew Michael. So you are all by yourself now and able to tell your stort unanonimously. I don't pressume if nobody had flocked in at Larry, you would have accpeted the invitation and would not have come to the show in disguise? So you can tell us now who you are.

What I do find surprising also, is that Larry invited in the very first week after Michael's death. To me it sounds odd to invite someone who now claims only was in the background assisting with some things. I just don't believe Larry would invite backgrounder in that very first week. This was a week for Jermaine, Miko and real close friends.

Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 9:40 am ET


Wouldn't that be great? I really hope when they bring the ones at fault to trial that the media will focus on the fact that a man, a human being with blood running through his veins just like ours, with a heart that was sensitive and felt beyond what most people can feel died at the hands of another . Michael died at the the hands of one who was trained to save lives and from what I can surmise did not carry out his professional or moral responsibiltiy in taking care of his patient.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 4th, 2009 9:45 am ET

Unbreakable, you said that you think Jermaine was involved? Did I miss out on that one? Quite a strong accusation. Why coming here, telling things like that and then suddenly, when we want proof, back out?

Tell us, in what was Jermaine involved and why do you think so? Or are you going to keep this to yourself as well and only drop a bomb?

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 9:46 am ET

@Unbreakable October 3rd, 2009 6:47 pm ET
Thank you for your comments and sorry if you were misunderstood. I appreciate the insights you gave and that you got things off your chest. Please don't be put off. All the best.

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 9:53 am ET

hi unbreakable people like hearing your stories of mj we knew him to be kind funny and careing but its nice to hear it from some one who knew him in person we can only wonder what it must be like to class mj as a friend you were very lucky you could so stop trying to defend youself youve done nothing wrong just enjoy your memories of mj dont let people make you feel like you cant express how your feeling theres plenty of people on here that just like to chat and enjoy

love and peace to you

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 9:55 am ET

Again I have nothing to prove to you.

Michael died on a Thursday. Before I left for home on Friday while I was still in CA I was approached about doing the show.

I saw MJ EVERDAY but one...(meaning working days, I never saw him on sundays and a few other days mixed in, but 90% of the time I was with him at some point)

Monday I was contacted again about doing the show, they wanted people who had worked with him in the days leading up to his death.

I was also contacted GMA and Nancy Grace.

Eli I am not going to argue with you anymore.

I accpect the fact you questiion me. If you do not believe me, why do you even entertain the thought of talking to me?

Just ignore me.

I am not going to sit here and try and prove to YOU anything.

I am done with that.

You chose not to believe me, and I am ok with that.

The reason I even said anything to start with, was because I have strong feelings about what happend.

And you people were talking about all the things that were bothering me.

So, I decided to chime in.

I am not here to prove anything to anyone.

So i'm done doing that.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 9:57 am ET

eli hi how are you i hope that unbreakeble say somthing about jermain

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:00 am ET

I am not going to speak about Jermaine Jackson.

You brought it up in here, NOT me. So I wanted to admit the fact i DID say that in a private chat room.

I am not the only one who thinks this.

it is JUST MY thoughts.

I know nothing.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 10:01 am ET

un breakeble canyou tell us some more things whats on your mind about his dead did someone kill him

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:01 am ET

Unbreakable,i believe you,and i very respect you for you dont sell out Michael secrets!

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 10:03 am ET

hi stu how are you

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 10:03 am ET

@marguerite October 4th, 2009 7:16 am ET
Thank you and yes, I take your point.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 10:07 am ET

un breakeble if someone tells a secrey to me i wont say it to no one so i respect you for that if michael tells you something so keep it in your heart

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 10:08 am ET

leave her alone just stop dogging her around ooh oh

unbreakable me alittleless anna

send you peace and light

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:10 am ET

I know nothing about what happend to him.

I suspect he was murdered.

But I do not know anything at all.

I know nothing more than the rest of you on that subjcet.

That is why I wanted to come clear up thngs. The press and others saying he was frail and being spoon fed.

That stuff is not true.

Whether he was doing all those drugs I am not going to get into that, as it is not MY business.

But if this autpsy report is real, which i do not know, you would think there would be liver damage with so much drugs use, yet they said nothing about that.

So I do not know anything.

And it breaks my heart everyday when I think about him being gone.

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 10:12 am ET

Good Morning Everyone-

@MARGUERITE: Re: 3:58 a.m.- Hi Marguerite. I do not know who Eli is personally, however, if it is the same Eli that has been to the current chatroom that I have been to I can say with confidence that Eli is a dedicated Michael fan with nothing less than best intentions and geuine feedback to offer.

@MARIA and IRENE- Re: 4:19 a.m.- Maria and Irene; hello. I cannot remember specifically what preposterous argument was offered to back up Unbreakable's assumption that Jermaine was in on the plot to murder Michael (her words, not mine). However, I can suggest with almost certainty that it was Jermaine's ploy to murder Michael and gain control Michael's extensive musical catelogue. This -as educated Michael fans know- that this would never even exist as a remote possibility. Ever. The catelouge is and will forever remain controlled by authorities that may well be to us, right up there with God, Jehova, Buddah, Alah, and many more of these same figures. Michael himself rarely had control over the catelogue as his loan against Sony nearly made it impossible. So, Maria and Irene, if we even exclude THAT aforementioned theory- let's just support the arguement that Michael was "fearful of Jermaine" – Why in the world, ever, would he ever confide in Unbreakable regarding this dangerous, personal information? THAT... does not make sense. At all. Michael NEVER publicly complained about his family and to suggest that he dropped a bombshell in the confidence and secrecy of a minor production crew staff? No. I'm not buying it. Doesn't mean someone else won't- I'm just not cosigning on to that poorly and undersupported conspiracy theory. Maria- additionally, you stated that you are not quite sure why Unbreakable would not identify herself sooner- Well, I'm not quite sure either. Again- something that does not make sense to me. We have no idea who, where or what Unbreakable is- why hide behind perpetual misleading commentary? Wouldn't it make sense to identify who you are immediately insteading of seeking refuge behind posts of perpetual vague commentery awaiting for audience approval? I'm sure these questions are redundant now, but may be worth asking yourself.

@ALICIA- RE:6:23 a.m. Hi Alicia. I do not know Michael Jackson- personally- nor have I ever met him. To answer your questions (which I have numberious times in multiple posts, so I will just give you the Reader's Digest version). How do I know Michael was an addict? Well, "addict" is kind of almost a scary word isn't it? "Addict" and "chemically dependent" are the same exact thing. "Addict/addiction" is a clinical term that is used to diagnose someone who becomes chemically dependent on one or more multiple substances and their behaviors engaging to obtain these chemicals and the consequences related to using these chemicals are self desructive, dangerous and harmful. That statement alone natrually qualifes Michael as an addict. However, it goes much deeper that just that (even if you wanted to exclude that argument). The level of benzodiazipines found in Michael's body was so amazing, that the doctors remain baffled. His dependence on benzos was so incredible, he reached a threshold that these drugs were pratically ineffective (hence, his need for so much medication) and then clearly, his need for surgical medication just to sleep- this is absolutely unheard of. I do not expect many fans of Michael to expect or accept this "minor secondary addiction thing" that everyone, including his family now, is so hush-hush about. I happend to work in the field of addiction and chemical dependency so it is much easier for me to identify, process and make sense of thsese findings. Additionally, how do I know Michael has died? Well, without entertaining this for too long, the concept of Michael staging a hoax in his own death is absolutely ludicris, that would never ever be supported by the LAPD, the Coroner's office, the FBI, the DEA, Conman Murray, his family and multiple other sources. Did I see Michael's dead body? No. But I have never been to Pluto either, but I know that it's there.

@ALLURE- Re: 6:57 a.m.- Yes, Unbreakable was in the chatroom on Friday night and I did engage in extensive conversation with her.

@SAMANTHA FROM S.A.- As of 8:30 a.m. Maya Angelou has not been pronounced dead- at least not in America that I am aware of. She was to attend the BraveHeart awards last night but fell ill and was taken to the hospital. Additionally and coincidentally, one of her last masterpieces was written for Michael Jackson- the piece that was read at his July 7th Memorial. Additionally, Samantha, thank you for your supportive and positive commentary.

@SANDY-HOUSTON- I'm just speaking from the heart- Thank you. Sing with the strength of Michael's angelic voice today.

@MARIA again- Furthermore, regarding the autopsy results, this is a singificant blow for the DA's office. I'm not quite sure why everyone is celebrating the "leaked lead" of this critical information. If the autospsy results, are indeed accurate, (which I am not convinced of) this has given Murray sufficient lead time to work on his already failed defense. Notice how significant focus wasn't placed on this autopsy in major news outlets-it was leaked by AP- the same press that informed the world that Michael Jackson had died of a demorol overdose...(clearly- they were grossly inaccurate with that statment as well). The fans are not blind. I still wonder though, why they want us to be.

ihmj xoxo

klsdisney   October 4th, 2009 10:14 am ET

I just wanted to thank Unbreakabke for sharing what you did about Michael. You are blessed to have known him and even though I have always thought that he had a beautiful soul, after reading your posts I now know for sure. Thanks again for sharing.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 10:14 am ET

thanks unbreakeble i understand i believe you for it
so love and peace to you

Anne   October 4th, 2009 10:16 am ET

I think it is so important for people who really knew MJ to get the truth out to the pubic about what he was really like. There is so much false information that he is not seen as a real person. I never knew him but feel very protective of him and wish more people would speak up and correct the false information. His legacy is at stake. And it makes us all feel better to hear nice things about him when so much in the media is lies and sensationalism.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:17 am ET

Unbreakable,i usualy agree with your thoughs,i just didnt got the part about how you know Michael.So,you was work for hem.Thats explain,you may not know,what happend there.You just hear and see some things.

Stop attack each other!We are diferent peaples with diferent thinkings.Live with it everybody!We can doo one thing,respect each other!

Cocovelvet   October 4th, 2009 10:18 am ET

These blogs seem to get more amd more intense in their discussions.....last night was really a mixture of all jacks of trades. I recognised our dignified "mj" was also there for quite some time.

I feel Unbreakable hasn't really done anything to disrespect or dishonour MJ, she only mentioned what she knew since she worked somehow with the Dome Project. I like her comments coz I seem to get some light from what she say in comparison to all the contradictory stories we keep getting about MJ's last moments.


Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:19 am ET

I was not accusing Jermaine of anything. I only said it would not shock me if he was involved.

and I also said that was just one theory I had along with many others in your chat room who spoke to me in private chat.

I never said I had proof of anything.

I did hear some things and that is what made me question him.

This is it, I am droping this subject al together.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:19 am ET

Unbreakable,he was in everyday life so kinde and gentleman?

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 10:20 am ET

Morning everyone.

Hi MMJ IHYG HAgs rule!!

AnneoftheIsland   October 4th, 2009 10:25 am ET

Unbreakable, thank you, and I believe you.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:28 am ET

Hi Jacquelin!

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:34 am ET

I worked with Michael on his history tour and on the Dome Project.

This is how it all came to happen.

I work with CG(computer generated) things..Like video games and such. It is not a full time job, it is more of a hobby.

In around 94 I was in LA working with somene on this video game he was making. A freind off MJ was there, which i did not know that at that time. Later after our work was done on this game he told me that his friend Michael would love this game, because he loved all osrts of video games and such..

he asked me if he could take the game to his buddy Mike to see what he thought of it. So I said that woud be ok..(still not knowing this was MJ)

A few weeks later the man calls me back and asks me what sort of involvment had in this game, meaning what aspects did I do.

( I also worked on the video Lets get Rocked by Def Leppard which was one of the first videos to use CG)

he said his friend loved the graphics and wanted to talk to me about a project he was doing.

I told him I really did not have the time as I was getting married in about 6 months and was not going to start ny more projects.

About 4 months later he calls me back and demands I come to Califronia to meet with his buddy Mike,

So I go, still not knowing who Mike was.

I go to the meeting and in this room is MJ. I nearly crapped myself.

He was wanting me to help design something for a tour he was plannning, but I did not have enough time to get thigns in order, as the tour was starting within 6 months or there abouts.

We tried some things and such but nothing seemed to pan I told him I could not really help any further as I needed more time.

A few years later he called me asking to help with some CG thigns for Ghost. I was pregant at the time so I did not help at all, but gave some advice and what not, had no real input on this at all..(meaning ghost)

i couple more times between 96-2000 I was asked to help with some small things for him. Nothing fancy and nothing that ever went into productiion.

In late March Michael called me telling me about a project he was going to be starting or had already started for an upcoming concert series in London.

Told him I was not going to work in London so I declined, He said all the work would be done in LA.

so that is how it started.

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 10:34 am ET


You must certainly did accuse Jermaine of plotting to murder Michael (these are your words, not mine) and there was a room full of witnesses when you claimed this as well. I also never suggested that you had proof Jermaine was involved- I did not entertain the conversation with this topic to get that far. It just seems in the last few posts you have written, you are backpeddling on what you said.
Again, I'm not minimizing your time with Michael. I hope his last days of life were nothing short of amazing and beautiful. It is heart sickening and disgraceful we lost him much too soon. On that note, there is really not much more to say on this than I already have.
ihmj xox

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 10:37 am ET

{{{{{{{{{{{ PATTY ANDERSON HAG HUG }}}}}}

ihum patty!
xoxo ihmj

Nature   October 4th, 2009 10:37 am ET

Unbreakable, don't let some people get to you. You have the right to says as little as you want, no need to explain more than you wish to. And if someone doesn't believe you, that is their choice, you don't need to prove anything to anyone.
You're here just like the rest of us, you admired and loved MJ and you want to find out what happened to him.
You know more than most of us here because you had a personal experience with him, but that doesn't mean you know what happened. I understand totally. I am happy you are sharing with us what you can, it is nice to hear from someone who knew him first hand.
I for one believed the ones who said MJ was not sick and dying before the 25th. He looks amazing in the rehearsal footage.
I am also feeling that he was either murdered or is alive.

Cocovelvet   October 4th, 2009 10:42 am ET


I just fail to understand why some people are getting so jiggy around you when you simply imply you knew MJ by virtue of having been an employee in that Dome Project . What is there really to be so forbidden about it ???

The very first moment i read your comments, I got a feeling you were just an ordinary blogger or fan of MJ who just wanted to share their views on what they might have. It seems there is a continous denial of others to allow other bloggers to view their own opinions even though we all keep admiting this is an open forum for any comments as long they duel on the topic.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:42 am ET

I am not back peddaling on anything. I admitted I said those things, I did not deny it.

I just do not think a public blog is the place to air such trash.

I accused him, I said I thought his hands were dirty..and I did not trust him. Also said I think he may have something to do with this IF this is a murder.

I also said a few other theories I had, that was not the only one.

But lets not bring that here..I am not going to sit here and publicly accuse Jermain of anything.

I know nothing.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:42 am ET

Hmmm... Unbreakable,you are so lucky 🙂 .

Judie   October 4th, 2009 10:43 am ET


IHUG morning to you and hag Patty too!

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 10:44 am ET

Yeah It's the Judie hag!! Hag Hugs Judie. We have 2 new blogs I see

Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 10:46 am ET


Good morning!

Sadly, sadly I agree with your response at 10:16 a.m. especially in the area of drug dependency.

For clarity, in regards to Murray...a leaked report (which I do not happen to believe the report is official) gives Murray time to prepare? for a defense of the leaked report? Could you be saying that you think it is leaked to help the DA? I mean I am very nervous about a trial and the LAPD and the DA's office. I hope the evidence collected will slam the door on those that participated in Michael's death and that the DA's on staff are top knotch.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:47 am ET

I meant I DID NOT accuse bad,

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 10:51 am ET

Unbreakable!You was see hem olmost every day.Do you think,he was exited about the tour,or this was too much for hem?

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 10:56 am ET

He was very excited and worried at the same time.

As anyone would be.

He put everything he had into makin this the BEST show for his fans.

He was human, he doubted himself.

He told me many times he was having the time of his life.

Cocovelvet   October 4th, 2009 10:56 am ET

The mere fact that MJ looked sick and frail the last days of his life seem more than unbelievable when considering what MJ had to go through with those rehersals..... I mean, with just a mere flu, no one can even dance for 5 minutes without losing their breath if at all there have to be comparisons.

How could MJ really have stood all that stress and managed with those rehersals for the two weeks period he went through with them if at all he looked sickly and frail ??? I have to admit, from the way MJ looked on those rehersal clips, he seems a bit thinner than his usual self even though he was always a slim guy, but being slim or thinner sometimes doesn't imply one is sick. MJ was rehersing and dancing, and that takes a lot of burning of extra calories which MJ could have gone through during those rehersals.

someone   October 4th, 2009 11:02 am ET

There are some crazy people that think that mj is alive and hoaxed his death for a big comeback....

and they think that LK is in on the hoax!

I guess that they will be waiting a long time for his return,
especially since he will be facing Fraud Charges upon his big return!

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 11:05 am ET

OMG,this is heart brakeing,that he couldnt complite.Thats why we have to woch the movie,he was gonna give this to the world,and we still can see hes work.Are you gonna woch it?

I have one more question, (well,i probebly could have 1000-s of questions 🙂 ) So,you was say something personal to Michael here on the blog,something from hes song (dont remember what),and you said,you still loughing about it.Did **mj** had any reaction?Do you think **mj** can be realy hem?

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 11:05 am ET


I promise you I will no longer address what was said in the chatroom. We both agree that this blog is not the place to discuss Michael Jackson's tragic death. I respect, but more so, understand your pain and grief in recognition that he is gone, too soon, without reason, without explanation, without comfort. I can only have faith to believe that Michael Jackson left our world knowing that he was loved unconitionally by so many. I also would only hope that Michael also left us knowing that we believed in his innocence and never questioned for a second, that he was nothing less than perfect to each of us in our own way. May you cherish your moments with Michael, Unbreakable. I am sure he did.
ihmj xoxo

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 11:08 am ET


{{{{{{{ hag hug }}}}}}}}}}}}}

IHYG Judie! See you @ Jaxson Street

Amy   October 4th, 2009 11:09 am ET

Victoria J – your post – October 4th, 2009 8:32 am ET

You made my day.

mjpyt   October 4th, 2009 11:13 am ET

Hey unbreakable im glad you decided to come back on
not everyone on here thinks the same i smiled when i read your posts
michael was a wonderfull human being you have great memories to
treasure we only knew michael the idol you knew michael the human
being you were blessed to have been a friend so take love and light
with you and treasure your special memories no one can take them
from you and enjoy your special gift

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 11:15 am ET

Anne your video brought me to tears, I had not seen that.

I see footage of things I worked on..

watch it, there is a scene with michael with a green screen behind him holding a sucker.

I was there that day...

as i was everyday.

he looks wonderful, just how i remeber him.

I am going for a bit...

but that video choked me up a bit..

it still seems so hard to believe.

He was one sexy mofo.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 11:16 am ET

I missed that with unbreakable in the chatroom.I hope,i will have a chase too.

Amy   October 4th, 2009 11:17 am ET

"He told me many times he was having the time of his life."
I'm glad Michael was happy. So sad he's gone too soon.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 11:17 am ET

😀 sexy mofo... 😀 yes,he was.

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 11:18 am ET


There are many angles that Murray can use if indeed, these results that were leaked, are accurate- (this just gives him more time to build his defense)- for instance, he can say that Micael was healthy enough to tolerate the amount of drugs administered to him. That could be one angle, foolish angle- but Conman is a foolish man and just could be dumb enough to use that one. He can also suggest that Michael's alleged lung condition exacerbated his ability to breathe properly when these drugs were administered therefore resulting in his untimely death. Again, another foolish angle but when you are working with nothing it requires alot of work to create an ever bigger nothing. (this is only under the condition that the report leaked is accurate; I am not subscribing that it is or isn't, I just am not setting myself up for disappointment or disaster if it's not an accurate report). I do not believe the report was leaked to either assist the DA or the defense. I think the Associated Press was tired of riding on the coat tails of TMZ and CNN and delivered another piece of worthless information.
ihmj xoxo

Anne   October 4th, 2009 11:21 am ET

Wow, I can't even watch it because I am crying so much. Just imagining what could have been.....and this song is just so sad. Thank you for this beautiful video. It really shows how great it was all going to be. He had so much to live for.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 11:23 am ET

Thank you for your kind words.

watch the video posted here, you will see some of the projects I was doing, and there is even a spot he is holding a sucker. I told you guys he always had a sucker.

I am going to watch the video one more brings me joy, yet sadness at the same time.

Does he look frail or sick to any of you in this video?

I am telling the truth.

Please have faith in that, MJ was NOT sick or frail..and this proves it. When you see the movie, it will prove it.

Damn I really miss him..

Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 11:23 am ET

To Anneof theIsland....

Thanks for posting the video., These still photos are incredible! I am crying for what he missed in seeing the loving reaction of his fans to his Masterpiece. I am crying wanting those that brought on his untimely death to justice. May justice prevail! Michael will live in our hearts forever...forever...

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 11:28 am ET

the person coming here is NOT Michael Jackson.

Anne   October 4th, 2009 11:31 am ET

It is absolutely heartbreaking what happened to this precious human being during his lifetime. When I look at him I see a 24 year old young man smiling from ear to ear with his whole life ahead of him full of promise and the whole world in love with him.

Marmoura   October 4th, 2009 11:31 am ET


I am so glad you are back! thanks for sharing your experience. i know from experience that it is one of the worst things in the world to lose your boss...especially when you work with them regularly and have such a good working relationship. i was a contractor too, and you build a special relationship – not that you are friends, but you are more than an acquaintance. you respect each other in your own craft. that is a beautiful thing.

it makes the whole thing so much more surreal.

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 11:31 am ET

That's exactly correct Unbreakable

Hi Stu how are you?

MourningMJ   October 4th, 2009 11:42 am ET

I just watched the video that Anne was so kind to offer us. It was overwhelming to see. I'm not questioning you in what you believe is sick or frail or healthy. This is not the same Michael Jackson I once recognized without fail. His face has always remained angelic and his moves are flawless. I cannot possibly begin to speculate or measure failty or weakness when I did not see Michael Jackson anytime before he passed away. You and I may measure these quite differently, however. I cannot presume that Michael was in perfect health at the time of this production- especially when his body was being pumped and fed poisons by these malicious haters around him. Just because he smiled, doesn't mean his heart wasn't still broken. Again, I will say: the last trial left Michael a broken man and a colosal piece of his soul died with him. I do not believe at all that any tour in the world would bring this back. This tour was for Michael's beautiful children and his fans- not him. Michael again, always doing what he does best- for others. I miss him too. Incredibly.
ihmj xoxo

Patty Anderson   October 4th, 2009 11:46 am ET

I'm off to work everyone have a great day

Keep that MJ love flowing

See you tonight MMj hag

(((((((((((Hag Hugs))))))))))))

Sara   October 4th, 2009 11:48 am ET

On thing I find quite odd is that the paramedic taking Mr. Jackson to the hospital said he was sick, old, and fragile and they did not even recognized their patient. In the ambulance pitchure (which is supposedly the last image of the King of pop) I can’t see an old sick and fragile person…
And the news hit us; Michael was not well at all, according to some people working with him. (Karen Faye, some other fans) They are writing in their Face book that MJ was being spoon-fed, and doing these 50 shows would kill him. AEG is to blaime.

On the other side there are people claiming he was in excellent shape, sure he was thin but haven’t Michael always been that way. People claiming this is some who worked with him, TTI-dancers, Ortega, Frank Delio.
What is the truth? There is an on going battle wheter Michael was healthy or not, if someone says he wasn’t the next day they say he was healthy as a lion…
I am getting sick of it, I don’t know what to think anymore…

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 11:50 am ET

Hi Patty Anderson!

Unbreakable,that was the unswer is espect. 😦

TracyK   October 4th, 2009 12:05 pm ET

Hello. This is my first day. I have been reading and agree with so many people who have been posting here about the death of MJ. I hope to get to know some of you better : )

Anne   October 4th, 2009 12:06 pm ET

Anne of the Island
Have you emailed a link to your beautiful video to MJ-Upbeat? She likes to post videos on her site.

AnneoftheIsland   October 4th, 2009 12:09 pm ET

Sara, I feel the same way, but feel that Michael was healthy. In my opinion, much of the bad reporting is covering up the truth.

Unbreakable, my heart goes out to you.

Thanks to all for your comments. Michael looks splendid in the video.

Have a good day everyone. 🙂

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 12:11 pm ET

I am not saying MJ was in pefect shape or condtion. Truthfully i did see things.

What I was saying was he was not frail or boney or any of that nonsense we have heardd.

He was by NO means the Michael Jackson I grew up being in love with and wanting to marry.

I will say this, in all honesty, the first time I met MJ back in the mid 90's he looked spectacular.

I had seen him a few other times over the years and he pretty much looked the same.

However when I met with him for the first about this project, I did not even recognize him.

His face has changed drasticaly..

I am not trying to say he was perfect,

I was just saying he was not dying.

But overall, to me, he seemed in pretty good physical condtion.

Do you know what I mean?

MaryRM   October 4th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Unbreakable 10:56 am ET – He was very excited and worried at the same time. As anyone would be. He put everything he had into makin this the BEST show for his fans.

that is something that bothers me. that he would be so pumped and not sleep because it was so important to make the best for us. but all we ever wanted is what was best for him. We appear to be in a catch 22. I just cannot make my peace with this.

but i just keep telling myself that he seems to have been happy when he died in the sense that he was excited about the future and doing what he loved.

Cocovelvet   October 4th, 2009 12:18 pm ET


Oh yeah !!!, I saw that part you mentioned where MJ was holding a lollipop . He looked so cute and with that sweet smile in that red jacket...... MISS HIM SO MUCH NOW.... 😦

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

I am going to share on story, as it is nothing too personal.

Some people have questioned my name..many know it is a MJ song off his last album.

At the start of May I had to fly home for a surgery..My birthday was May 2 and my surgery was to be May 4th..I flew home Saturday the 3rd..had my surgery Monday and flew back to LA on Wed to get back to work.

The next day I returned which was the 6th I think, I was having a very bad time, I was in pain and not feeling good and missing my kids as I had not really spent any time with them in weeks.

I was sitting on the floor next to the mens room..(cause there was no one around) and I was crying..(yes, I AM a baby)

Before I knew it I felt someone sit next to me, My head was between my legs being cradled by my hands...SO i did not see who sat but could feel someone did,

So me, being me, and by that I mean I am a bit*ch sometimes, I said.."leave me alone, nothing to see here"

Than I heard these words.

"make me"

I knew it was him.

He asked me what was wrong, as he knew I had just had surgery.

I began to cry and told him I was in pain, I was tired, I was worried about fuc*king up hios masterpiece, I felt lots of pressure, I missed my family and I thought I was falling apart.

I than loooked him in the eyes and said.."you seem so unbreakable and here I am crying over nothing"

He than wrapped his arms around me..

(and boy, it felt good)

he told me that I was the one who was unbreakable and he can not even begin to imagine what it must be like to be away from my kids, as he can't go a day without his..he told me that he had faith in me and that he did not question or doubt my ability to do this project with him.

An from then on, he always called me Unbreakable..

he would often say..

"somene get unbreakable some dish soap her mouth needs a good rinsing"

I tend to drop swear words like they are gospel.

Mother Day weekend was the following weekend and Michael arranged, behind my back, for my family to fly out for the weekend.

So my kids and my husband got to finally meet him. He was very kind to my family and tried teaching them the moonwalk and also gave them money to play every game in an arcade near by..

So these are the sorts of things I want to say..

That is the kind of heart he had.

and that is why I have this name.

Because that is what he called me.

But really, it applied more to him. In my eyes.

Nature   October 4th, 2009 12:34 pm ET

@Unbreakable: that is so sweet, MJ was so caring, everyone who knew him says that, and your story just shows another example of how he cared about every person and made them feel so loved and special. He had so much love in his heart.

Lori Quebec Canada   October 4th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Thank you Unbreakable for sharing that story about you and is nice to have someone tell how nice and kind Michael really was.....

Anne   October 4th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Anneoftheisland I sent your video to her. MJ-Upbeat dot com.

Unbreakable Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful story.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

hello everyone

unbreakable–thank you for sharing your story

MaryRM   October 4th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

Unbreakable – that was wonderful – it also sounds just like him – like something he would do – thanks for sharing

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 12:46 pm ET

@AnneoftheIsland October 4th, 2009 11:00 am ET
Thank you for this video. Michael didn't look too bad in these shots, maybe just a little different. Bear in mind that these were rehearsals and considering he hasn't been seen performing since how long.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

unbreakabe–you said yesterday after Michael's death you were invited to LKL and you declined–why? also said you declied to go to the memorial–how come?

MaryRM   October 4th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

That video stabs at the heart and I turned the music off when they started Gone Too Soon. I can't listen to that song. I like the fact that in most of the shots he has his real hair, not that straight stuff. He looks more like Michael with those curls to me.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

Yes,how everybody said,he was nice wunderfull careing person.Nice to hear from somebody,who knew hem...Thanks for telling us this storie!
I am so sensitive today,you was make me cry.I am not a crying person usualy.

Now we can be sure,this **mj** is a fake.He waould know you,but this person didnt.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 12:55 pm ET

MaryRM,i agree.Whenn he has hes real hair,then he is like he was alvais.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 12:57 pm ET


My feelings are hurt. You didn't answer my question from yesterday. I've been waiting patiently. Do you know Miko? Was he a true friend to Michael? I met him recently in June at Michael's bday party and he seems like a very nice man. Is there anything you can share in regards to my question please?

If not I understand and respect your decline to answer.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 12:57 pm ET


Thank you for sharing your story & I wish that the rest of the world could know this side of Michael.

missin MJ   October 4th, 2009 12:58 pm ET


I have read your posts over the past couple days and have enjoyed them. This last one just posted has me in tears to know what a kind, gentle person Michael was. You were given such a remarkable gift to have known him personally. Thank you for sharing him with us.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

Goodmorning Linda, Samantha, MaryRM

Happy Sunday! Go Raiders, Steelers and Brett Favre!

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 1:03 pm ET


I never believed for a second that **mj** was Michael.Next time this 'imposter' is on here,everyone should just ignore 'em!That way,they should get the message loud & clear and leave the fans the hell alone once & for all!

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Hi Mara!

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

Hey girls bbff's

Mara r u alive? lol

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:08 pm ET

No I did not know Micko..As far as I know though, he was a dear friend.

I was not invited to the memorial.I mean I am sure I could of tried to get a ticcket, but no, I was not there.

I did not think it would be a good idea for me to go anyway, because I took this pretty hard, and I don't think I would hvae handled it well, seeing his casket there.I would have lost it.

I declined because I did not want to be tricked into saying things about Michael that I do not want t discuss. I know how these people work.

Also I was grieving, it was to raw. I also did not think it was something Michael would have wanted me to do.

That is why.

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

I'm with are you today?

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

Hi Mara

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

I understand about not wanting to dwal with seeing the casket and I applaud you unless the vultures who surrounded Michael–you have a conscience.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

The surgery I had was on my leg so I hobbled around for a couple days.

He told me he was going to make me a set of wings so i could fly.

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Hi Linda,

I agree with what you said last night about the rope.
Do you remember?

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Hi Judie!

I'm just spending the evening listening to Michael and trying to get some work done lol.On that note,how are you doing?

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

Samantha.I was not believe it to,but now we are 1000% sure.The problem,here is still somany peaples believe,and you cant explaine for them,its not hem.Thay dont believe it.Thay will not ignore hem.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:16 pm ET


Thank you for answering my question.

Also, some of us fans here on LKL are planning a tribute next June 2010 in honor of our beautiful Michael in LV. I would like to extend an invitation to you if that's okay?

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:18 pm ET

Sounds like a great day anytime Michaels music is playing.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:20 pm ET


IHUG BBFF – yes I am alive. Everyone abandoned me last night! LOL however I spoke with a visitor last night "my love for u" very nice kid.

Imagine the heart in this okay? (love)

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

I don't beleive mj-either-but do you know last night-I told mj that I don't have time for clues–just a simple yes or no–are you Michael Jackson?--I wanted to see what he would say–He said he is-Unreal

Anne   October 4th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

It is particularly hard to see the photos in the video of MJ standing on the stage at Staples near the front near where his casket would lie in a matter of days.

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

I heart u too!

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

if it is possible, I would love to go.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:22 pm ET

judie–yes i do–how are you

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

unbreakeble have you some fotos you want to share whit us from michael?

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

If you are still on Stuie I heart u too! my Yoda

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

mara-i came back–you were gone

unbreakable-that is the las vegas fan tribute i mentioned to you yesterday-remember-on Facebook

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

@ Anne,
I is GUT wrenching.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

Thanks God ,Linda,i was woried about you 🙂 I thoughd,you are a half believer.

I hope,everybody will read,what Unbreakable wrighd today.We have to post it to everyone.I hope,that are not that much stubern and blinde,thet thay still will believe for **mj**

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

unbreakeble or maybe a webside so we can see you photos
i love to see them

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:30 pm ET


This is probably not the best place to give out contact information so if you would like you could join our Facebook group at Michael Jackson – Las Vegas Fan Tribute.

This way we can keep you updated via messages. Right now we have narrowed down the city in which to have our tribute whic is Las Vegas. Think about it...

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

I'm good Linda thank you. It was wild last night @jax everybody having a good time and a lot of fun.

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

@AnneoftheIsland October 4th, 2009 10:28 am ET
Thank you for the above video, "Australia Loves Michael Jackson – A True Humanitarian". He truely was. He will get his reward.

I liked the beginning where his parents are talking and also the rest of the video.

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

are you kidding?-Michael Jackson died on June 25th--end of story

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

i hope you are allright now unbreakeble missing a friend this kind of way its horrible

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

judie–yes it was-came back on later

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

He René-are you someone?

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

Yes unbreakable we would love to see some of your phots.
Please share with us.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

Hi Judie!I am here 🙂 (love) 🙂 Maybe i should change my user name to Yoda? 🙂 Noooo,i am not that good 😉

Anne   October 4th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

Has anybody read Boteach's book? I am planning to go read it in the bookstore. My objection to it was Boteach making money and being critical. I want to hear what MJ wanted us to know back in 2000.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

Well I have photos, but all from the Dome Project. Which I will be more than happy to show once the movie is out.

I fear I could into some crap if I did before the movie is released.

Diane in Minneapolis   October 4th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

R there any HEART HAGS in da house?

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

@Anne can you read it on line or @your local Library first? I know how you feel.

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

René-come clean-we know it's you!

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

i wait i love to see it thanks unbreakeble

MaryRM   October 4th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

I'll be looking forward to that Unbreakable. I love the behind the scenes making of stuff.

anne – No, I won't be reading his book – just doesn't feel right and I go with my gut instincts on these things until my gut is proven wrong. but if you are going to read it anyway, give us your critique.

ok, I'm late for my Me to We Day training at the Air Canada Centre, just stayed on long enough to get my papers printed on my old printer.

bye for now – I probably wont be able to even read the blogs until late Monday or even Tuesday – take care everyone, God bless

Diane in Minneapolis   October 4th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

This blog is too SLOW! Why aren't you all on the newest video tribute blog?

Judie   October 4th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

Hags R in Da House! lol Diane

Anne   October 4th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

My library didn't even buy it. I just read the last paragraph of it on MJ-upbeat and he says some pretty harsh things. I am glad the book is not selling. How awful to make money defaming someone's character. I read yesterday that Martin Bashir sold the documentary to ABC for $7 million dollars. MJ did it for free. Blood money.

jacqueline\nl   October 4th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

but were you gonna show the pics

bERTHA CECILIA URDINOLA ALJURE - Wageningen - Holland   October 4th, 2009 1:50 pm ET

Unbreakable: I can not believe what I read: fans of MJ will take revenge on Murray. I hope that never happen. MJ that would never, never approve. He was against violence!

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Hi Barbara

Are you talking about Rene Elizondo? Janet's X-husband?


IHUG – I agree this blog is "hagging out" my computer is giving me that "hag" look...

lindafromnewyork   October 4th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

later hags

bye everyone

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

After I get the clear to show them, I will set up a website to showcase them all.

As of right now The Dome Project is still considered an "active" project. My work on it is complete, but it is still an active project.

I never insisted MJ fans do anything to Murray, I said it would not shock me if someone did.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 1:55 pm ET


I wrote you a comment on the FB group I really hope you join us. Thank you.

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

@Mara-no a friend of mine said he was going to post on LKL and his biggest fact AGAINST Michael faking his death was the fact that if Michael hoaxed his death and then came back-he would be charged with fraud.

Therefore, faking the death would be a foolish thing to do.

Sorry for the confusion!

Alright René- we gotcha now!

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

I am leaving for the day.

Just did not want anyone to think I am ignoring questions.

I will check the next Mj post when it comes out.

I probably won't wander back into this one.

Good day and God Bless.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 2:01 pm ET

Mara I do not have a facebook, But I will get start one.

I am behind the times on these things.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

@ Unbreakable

Your post (12:11 pm ET) is exactly what I expected from someone who wants to tell the truth without getting into specifics. Thank you.

But what about Facebook? You say above that you don't have Facebook, but on Friday you said something else.

Unbreakable October 2nd, 2009 11:51 am ET
I have facebook and am friends with Both Karen and This Is Not It.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 2:30 pm ET


Thanks for posting and it does sort of ring a bell.

Also,how could I completely forget!Tito and the Jacksons are honoring Michael tonight at the Detroit Opera House,anyone lucky enough to be attending???

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

I do NOT have a Facebook.

I do not even recall writing that.

Someone else wrote that,because I did NOT!

Now I am going to have to go look thru all these comments to make sure this did not happen more than once.

But I do NOT have a Facebook.

I remeber writing more than once I did not have one.

But I swear, I do NOT have a facebook.

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 4th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

I have to set the record straight here.

Unbreakable just said that I brought Jermaine up myself. Let us go back where it started.

Above here Unbreakable: "And YES I said I think Jermaine is involved, and I have my reasons for thinking so".

Because I read this I asked Unbreakable where Jermaine is involved with. You should not turn it around. You started saying you think Jermaine was involved. You just drop another bomb with what we cannot do anything, and now saying I began? You are just joking us around.

Another thing, you said also "Michael told me things I would not even tell to someone on my death bed". Really? To me that's another bomb. You are just giving one finger and if we want more, you quickly pull back.

Sorry Unbreakable, but now you are contradicting yourself. You and only you brought up your suspicion about Jermaine.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

I dont see anywhere,that you wright,you have a facebook...

Maria   October 4th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

OK, so who posted it?

Unbreakable October 2nd, 2009 11:51 am ET

This autopsy report does not shock me one bit. He did not seem overly thin is the video’s we have seen of the rehersal footage. Just thin..not overly thin..

MJ was always a slender man. I don’t think I buy the crap posted above from TMZ. I have facebook and am friends with Both Karen and This Is Not It.

I’m not saying I buy thier crap,but its better than people thinking MJ faked his death and is coming back. To me, thats insane and needing a straight jacket nd a padded room kinda talk.

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 3:08 pm ET

There's the entire post:

Unbreakable October 2nd, 2009 11:51 am ET

This autopsy report does not shock me one bit. He did not seem overly thin is the video’s we have seen of the rehersal footage. Just thin..not overly thin..

MJ was always a slender man. I don’t think I buy the crap posted above from TMZ. I have facebook and am friends with Both Karen and This Is Not It.

I’m not saying I buy thier crap,but its better than people thinking MJ faked his death and is coming back. To me, thats insane and needing a straight jacket nd a padded room kinda talk.

MJ was murdered, but by who and why is the question. Yes Murray did it, but not on his own free will, trust me.

I have been more than heartbroken over the events of his death and such, and want more than anything for him to be me!

but he was a man. Just a man. not a God, he was not imortal.

I don’t think anyone will ever go down for this, as there are way too many people invloved in it..Sony being one..

I love you Michael and I’m sorry what they did to you.

JustMe   October 4th, 2009 3:13 pm ET


just wanted to let you know i LOVE what you write about Michael...

🙂 thanks.

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

I'm sorry, I did not know what post it was from..

Yes, I did say that.

When i first started writing I did not want to come off as anything more than a fan. I was never going to say I knew Michael.

I had seen the things that were said on both those facebook pages because it has been posted on other sites I have been to.

That is why when i saw LK had a blog about the autopsy I made a comment.

When I started out I was NEVER going to reveal anything.

I told people I was nothing more than a fan, and that is how I wanted to be portrayed.

Does that make sense.

So yes, that was one white lie I told.

But I do not have a facebook,

and that is for real.

Everything I said Friday was me trying to tell what I know without going into detail

that is all..

and Eli,
I dont even know what you are talking about.

I never said anythign hear about Jermaine, not until someone else brought it up.

I said in the chat room that I thought his hands were dirty.

But I will not say anything about Jermaine here..or anywhere..

To me, its not even worth talking about.

So I don't know what BOMB I was dropping.

If you don't believe me Elli, stop talking to me.

But that is the reason I said that about facebook...I do recall saying that now that I see the post.

Remember I was trying to come off as nothing more than a fan.

And accually my best friend has a facebook and she is freinds with both of those parties.

So that is where I originally saw it.But it has been posted other places as well.

Does any of that make sense?

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

I just went thru and looked at comments made here today.

There is a comment that says it was made by me, but it was not.

I never made the comment about my leg and hobbling around..

But the weird thing is, it is true.

And he did tell me that.

so wtf?

Ok I don't know what's going on, but I think I am done posting here.

Because it appears something weird is going on now..

But I hope you understand what I mean about the facebook thing, I had forgot I had said that.

What I am saying is true.I have no reason to lie.

I posted on the autopsy one on purpose.

But it sort of grew legs and ran from there.

But now i see this comment I DID not make and my heart is racing.

I don't know what sick joke someone is playiing on me, but that is my cue to leave.

I know for most certainly Michael has passed away, and we need to pray for justice.

I am about to bust into tears right now, because of that comment.

I mean, I did not even notice that until now.

Everyone, I am sorry I posted here.

All I wanted to do was clear Michael. That is all.

But I am offically done.

When I am able to post my pics I will come back with the wedsite for you.

But until than I must go, because something is going on and I want no part of it.

Please understand.

Thank you.

Peace out~

Samantha - South Africa   October 4th, 2009 3:38 pm ET


I have the utmost respect for those who have had the pleasure of knowing Michael personally and truly cared about him.In fact,as you know there were really very few people of that nature that were around Michael so I really appreciate those who have had the courage to come forward and share their stories with the rest of us.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 3:42 pm ET

Unbreakable!Its cant be,that this is a sign for you from Michael?

Maria   October 4th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

@ Unbreakable:

Yes, to me it makes sense. However, If I were you, I would have said simply: "I know from other forums what Karen Faye and This Is Not It fans are claiming. And also I have a friend who is friends with them on Facebook".

I mean, there isn't any reason to say a white lie about that to protect yourself. There's NO logical relationship between telling this white lie and not wanting to reveal that you knew Michael. There is nothing unusual about seeking to find out what KF&TINI say.

Mara   October 4th, 2009 3:46 pm ET


Do you see why we were "suspect" the other night? It's because some bloggers have had their identities highjacked. AND a blogger has admitted to posting under TI's name before to "teach" us a lesson. Shady but true. I don't remember who but oh I remember..

I think it is a crime to "highjack" someone's identity and would appreciate it if CNN would look into that mess.

Whenever you come around to creating a Facebook please join us. Thank you.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

Stu: No, it's not a sign from Michael. She talks about IMPERSONATORS. Damn it, it's not for the first time when it happens here on LKL. Unbreakable, it seems some people want to scare you and not let you stay here and tell what you know. Kudos to you for being here. If you're honest, there's nothing to be afraid of!

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   October 4th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

Unbreakable, here it comes: You said clearly you think Jermaine is involved. Now, don't tell me this is a fake post. You can read it somehwere in the middle.

October 4th, 2009 9:39 am ET

Let me just clarify some things.

When I said things like “i have said to much already” I was meaning I gave myself a limit on what I was going to share. I wanted people to know or understand that I knew things witout having to go into any sort of detail..But as the comments kept coming, and i ketp revealing more, I thought i had better tell my story so I could clear up any confusion as to who I was or what my motive was.

I was never told I could not speak about Michael. I was a free lance worker, I did not work for the company who put on The Dome project. I was hired by Michael, my checks came from HIS accounts, not the accounts of the compamy doing TDP.

I was contacted by CNN because some of the people involved knew I had worked there. I did not contact them. CNN at some point were trying like hell to get anyone on the show that knew MJ at all.

That is all.

I am not going to dignify the drug questions whatsoever.

Two things I will not speak about.

His children..and his drug use.

Nothing I have said in any way has been disrecpectful to Michael at all.

I never said the man was not flawed. I was not trying to paint this picutre of him as anything other than a human.

I witnessed some bad times for him, sure, but that is not something I will ever talk about. Because I am not here for that purpose.

All i wanted to do was clear up a couple issues and that is all.

And YES I said I think Jermaine is involved, and I have my reasons for thinking so. I am not saying I am right. Never claimed it as factual.

But I did hear things, that is all.

If you do not believe me, that is something that does not concern me at all. What concerns me are people telling lies about MJ.

If my story seems to weird, I am sorry.

I was not ever going to reveal that I knew him. That is why I would always avoid the question. But it came down to that I really felt I needed to tell you part of who I was and what I saw, so you would understand why I knew the things I did.

I was not MIchael’s BFF. I never said that. In fact I said it over and over.

We shared some private things. He did tell me things that are way too personal that even on my death bed would never reveal to anyone. Things I have never een told my husband.

Unlike some of MJ “real friends” I am taking those conversatioons with great pride and keeping them to myself, which is what some of his real buddies should have been doing.

Only things I was revealing were good, postive things.

I am not out to make a dime, or to sell MJ out.

And yes, i was offered a nice some of money to appear on not only this show, but two other ones. To me, that is selling MJ out and that is NOT how I roll.

I will NOT be tricked into saying unflattering thiings about Michael.


no amount of money would ever break the trust he put in me when he told me some of the things he did.

Believe what you will, I am not here to try and MAKE you believe me.

I did not know any of the dancers or anyone doing the show with him. We never interacted.

When I was at rehearals it was mostly backstage and working with computers and such…times I was sitting in the crowd watching way in the back.

MJ had only been rehearsing at the staples center for around 2 weeks. So out of the two weeks he had been there, I was there I would say 5 times. and only one time did I see the dancers.

I was NOT involved with the show at all. Only The DOme Project.

MJ had bought my family and I tickets to his opening show, including the air fare. I joked around with him that on what he was paying me I was not sure I would be able to afford my flight home from CA when we were done..(joking around, i was paid very well)

So if you chose not to belive me, that is ok.

At the end of the day, I know what I know.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

But anybody else knew about this legg storye,but unbreakable and Michael?How can be an inpresenter,if only this 2 person knew about this storie?

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 4:21 pm ET've got my attention...

Maria   October 4th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Unbreakable said she didn't mention about the legs&wings story HERE, not that she didn't ever tell anyone about that.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

Unbreakable got my attantion too.Please,come back to talk!

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

Maria,but do you think,its a big chanse,that the peaples,who she told to,probably not anamy of her,come here,and doo this game with her?

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 4:34 pm ET

mj sheerbrilliance,i hope,you are not trieing to scare Unbreakable!

Anne   October 4th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

I belonged to a chat room for a movie star for a number of years. One night a new person came on and told us all kinds of details about him many of which we knew to be true. Still it seemed suspicious that someone would know so many details. Then very soon after this person was arrested for stalking the movie star for years. She had even moved to be closer to him. I was quite shocked.

Luda   October 4th, 2009 4:51 pm ET

Unbreakable did not get my attention because of too much fickleness...

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

@Stu-That’s ridiculous, I was merely letting you know that your comment made me curious. So my comment was for you Stu 😉 I apologize if you did not interpret it this way.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

Yes, Stu, anything like that is possible.

You see, earlier I said to MMJ that I suspected Unbreakable of trying to come here only to undermine the credibility of what Karen Faye&This Is Not It fans are saying. That's why I questioned her about Facebook and what relationship she has with that group of people (more directly saying, Unbreakable could be sent in here by AEG or Sony people to defend their interests).

Now if some people who know her (the leg&wings story) come here and make such bad jokes, it's clear they do it to discourage her and make her shut up. If this is true (I mean, if Unbreakable tells the truth that she DIDN'T write the leg&wings comment), then it's another argument for me to believe what she says about MJ (that he was pretty independent and "normally" thin and NOT the skinny powerless victim portrayed by KF&TINI fans).

Luda   October 4th, 2009 4:57 pm ET

you say : " which we knew to be true", so the person said things that were already known publicly.... a story that anyone could have invented...

Thanks for sharing.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

Maria,that would be very weird.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 5:17 pm ET

Very weird indeed. One can't be 100% sure about anything, and this is so annoying.

NINA YIRDAW   October 4th, 2009 5:26 pm ET

Samanta southAfrica and all the fans who share clips I am so glad Michael has all these smart fans and we all are together. I saw that clips earlier before you posted it and I was unable to paste it on the blogs. So I really appreciate it.

Unbreakable: good point. If Michael had ingested a lot of drugs for a while he should have suffer from liver damage. But as per the autopsy report except his lung MJ was as strong as a healthy man should be.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 5:30 pm ET

Yes Maria,it is.This was shocking me,that somebody else wrighd the storie instadof her.I dont know,who is behinde,but its very weird.And she said,who is she by telling us,what she was working.

Nature   October 4th, 2009 5:32 pm ET

@Unbreakable: I understand the fb thing. One question I have: why do you say you know with certainty that Michael is dead (in your older post you also called people that believe that needing straight jackets)...but in some other posts you did said a few times that he was either murdered and there is a massive cover-up going on or he is still alive. So even though you lean towards believing he was murdered, you still entertained a possibilty of him being alive. Why would you then at other times say people that think/hope he faked it are insane and you are certain he died? Thanks for replying.

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 5:36 pm ET

She said,or somebody murdered hem,or he is a life.Its not an exident manslaughter for sure.

Nature   October 4th, 2009 5:36 pm ET

That is very strange that someone else wrote the story that happened btw her and MJ. Huh? What's going on?
How would that person know?

Why are screen names only allowed to be used by one person? Once someone registers under that name, no one else should be able to post under that name. It would make sense. Otherwise, do we ever know who is who and when there are 2 people posting under the same name??

Stu,Hungary   October 4th, 2009 5:49 pm ET

Yes,thats should be basic

Nature   October 4th, 2009 6:03 pm ET

@Unbreakable: Which story are you referring to (that you didn't write yourself)? is it the one where you cried in a mens room and MJ came to console you, and then also flew your family to see you? I'm not sure I now which one, but that one seems to have a lot of details and that it happened btw you and MJ only.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 6:20 pm ET

According to her words, her "hijacked" post was this:

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

The surgery I had was on my leg so I hobbled around for a couple days.

He told me he was going to make me a set of wings so i could fly.

If this wasn't written by her, then she has to remember who else could know about the "set of wings" part. She could tell it to some people who talked about that further, or they might have heard MJ saying that. I doubt it's an innocent joke from one of her friends, to come here and impersonate her.

This wrong policy on username/e-mail use has already ruined other forums. Hijacking identities is rampant on TMZ, whose forum looks like a mad kindergarden.

NINA YIRDAW   October 4th, 2009 6:53 pm ET

Alexandra, Poland: just curious....based on which speculation you came to that conclusion? Fill me up if I miss something...... Cause this is the only thing I want to hear since MJ death announced. I was hoping to hear " oh no the media is wrong Michael is doing well in the hospital" or something like this.

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 6:54 pm ET

So if the conversation was only between unbreakable and Michael? I don't think Michael would talk about such a personal moment with someone to anyone and if unbreakable didn't mention it to anyone then how could some one post about it here? Unbreakable did you mention that incident to anyone before now?

Unbreakable   October 4th, 2009 7:01 pm ET

Only person who was in the room when that was said was Michael and I.

I came back to show some people what had happend and saw your comments.

The only 5 people who know Mj said that to me are Michael, Me husband,and my parents.

I just spoke with someone I worked for on the dome Project and told them what had happend.

He read thru it all, said I should no longer post anything here.

Which was what I was planning.

I am unsure what is going on.

This is the oNLY website I have ever talked about my relationship with Michael Jackson.

I do not know what this means, but I'm done.

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 7:07 pm ET

Unbreakable something strange just happen here.

NINA YIRDAW   October 4th, 2009 7:08 pm ET

Unbreakable: can you please tell what story you are talking about? If I read this blog , do I get what you guys are talking..... I got lost. Please fill me up

Zelda   October 4th, 2009 7:11 pm ET

it's so strange... I hope she is ok and come back to us.
ok, if she told to someone else what Michael told her then, why that person remember those words in detail? why this person know that Unbreakable is here? why would he/she do that strange jokes to her?

Nature   October 4th, 2009 7:17 pm ET

I don't understand why you shouldn't post here because of someone hijacking your name. If only those people you mentioned knew about it, that's a pretty small circle. If only your husband, parents, and Michael know about this, that doesn't leave a lot of people to question.

I am confused as to why your co-workers would suggest you not post here anymore beacuse of that. You are not doing anything wrong. And it's not like this was a threat from someone for you to stop posting. It was a personal comment that only a few people knew about, so why would that mean you need to stop posting?

If it is not your husband or parents (you must know them if they are prankers) it could be that either MJ, your parents, or husband told someone of this and that person is messing with you.

Or Michael is really alive, and he posted it.

Zelda   October 4th, 2009 7:18 pm ET

Unbreakable – and everything other posts belong to you? is this was one strange post?

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 7:20 pm ET

@Stu-That’s silly...I apologize that you interpreted my comment that comment was directed at what you posted. Again I apologize.

Maria G   October 4th, 2009 7:20 pm ET

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

"The surgery I had was on my leg so I hobbled around for a couple days.

He told me he was going to make me a set of wings so i could fly."
NINA YIRDAW -Someone posted this comment apparently using Unbreakable's name. But the problem seems to be that only 5 people knew about this conversation. Herself, Michael, her husband and her parents. So who else knew enough about this conversation to post it here ?

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 7:23 pm ET

Sorry didn't see that my previous comment was posted which is why I posted bad

Cocovelvet   October 4th, 2009 7:26 pm ET


Are you telling us there might be someone chipping in behind you who could be knowing something you know which you thought is known only to you and MJ ???

If so, who could that be if not then one of those you probably confided in before probably ???

still me just a new name   October 4th, 2009 7:30 pm ET

I keep getting myself lost when commenting. I can't seem to find myself amoung the names. Too many Maria's so I am going to start using the name:

still me just a new name

It's still me just makes it eaiser to come back and start reading where I left off.

NINA YIRDAW   October 4th, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Interesting Maria G thanx.

still me just a new name   October 4th, 2009 7:37 pm ET

Sorry forgot to mention that "Maria G" is now "still me just a new name"

Zelda   October 4th, 2009 7:42 pm ET

yes, very interensting. if i don't know story of Unbreakable before, i would think that she joking and she want to suggest us that Michael wrote whis words, but i believe her

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 7:47 pm ET

I'm with you Zelda..Unbreakable sounds genuine

Luda   October 4th, 2009 7:54 pm ET

It's seems pretty clear: there are only 5 persons who know about this story. One of them is dead. So there is only 4 left.
Now in which room did it happen?

This is the Clue Detective game!
Remember that game??? lol

The fact that all this get very confusing just to read the comments, seems clear to me....

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 7:56 pm ET

I didn't think the 911 caller sounded like Miko. I thought the caller sounded like a younger person. JMO.

Nice to hear your story Unbreakable. I'm glad you put clear about MJ being spoon-food, etc. That did not sound good at all. It made me more depressed after reading the article. Anyway thankyou.

Barbara   October 4th, 2009 7:57 pm ET

Please stop posting under someone else's name. Be brave and use your real name or if you must use a nickname, don't pretend to be someone you are not, or steal someone else's name for fun.

I am hoping that this site draws genuinely interested, mature people who have something to add to the blogs-not diminish their credibility.

Unfortunately, many past bloggers do not spend time here anymore, because of just this-juvenile tomfoolery and infantile shenanigans.
This to me is disappointing, because I remember the day-not too long ago, when many people would come onto the Larry King Live blogs and share their feelings about Michael in an honest and loving manner. This to me was the start of a special bond between those who were trying to put the pieces together in this startling and tragic death. I am sorry it has come to this.

To those of you (and you know who you are) who think that posting under an assumed name is clever;

Remember: “A lie has speed, but truth has endurance."

♔ Love you Michael

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 8:12 pm ET


Sorry, but I know your emotions are strong, please don't hate on the Doctor. We don't know the full story yet. You're innocent until you are proven guilty. I think MJ wouldn't want us to hate. He was all about LOVE. He couldn't stress it to us enough. And we must not forget also, that GOD IS LOVE!

BOB FROM USA   October 4th, 2009 8:18 pm ET


Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 8:29 pm ET


Thanks for your insight and I agree with you. I came here not too long ago and was impressed with the genuine outpouring of love for Michael done in a respectful way. I have avoided commenting anywhere else b/c I just do not want to have to defend Michael. The truth does not have to be defended. I feel safe here and I think that the commenters make very intelligent, informed comments in sharing their insight on their beloved Michael. In this way, we honor Michael and we may even help people to look at him differently. I want to make that kind of impact if I can bc when and if a trial comes to pass, we will need to stand strong with Michael. Thanks to all who have showed me some love along the way as I cope with Michael's death.

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 8:35 pm ET

I'm fairly new here but this blog, is truly starting to confuse me...can somebody please give me a short version of what this is concerning???

still me just a new name   October 4th, 2009 8:44 pm ET

mjsheer brilliance.

Most of the conversation here is with "unbreakable" she is someone who worked with Michael and she was sharing some of her story about Michael with us. But someone posted something under her name that seemed to have made her uncomfortable. I am here just trying to figure out who would do that and to tell everyone to just please use your own name when commenting. Please lets be nice.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 8:45 pm ET

Zelda – this crossed my mind too.

I wish the LKL admins identify the fake Unbreakable and ban him or her as they did with jdf and John. This will take only a minute.

mjsheerbrilliance – scroll up a few comments and all will be clear, as explained by Maria G to Nina Yirdaw. Or search for Unbreakable's comments on this thread (ctrl+F and type "Unbreakable" in the dialog box).

NINA YIRDAW   October 4th, 2009 8:49 pm ET

Unbreakable, I just went through all the comments you made today. You are one of the luckiest people who got the chance to work with Michael. It was nice listening someone talk real talk about Michael. I would love to hear from you more. Your conversation with Michael made me cry. Dear Michael you were an angel. You will be missed forever...... I LOVE YOU MJ

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 8:51 pm ET

@Maria & still me

Thanks for your responses...I have read about Unbreakable throughout today's posts but thought maybe I had missed a comment or two thank you both for the clarification 🙂

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 8:51 pm ET

Gene probably knew something was up. Maybe we're all IMPOSTERS then.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 9:01 pm ET

Jessie – it takes a very special kind of imposter to know what Unbreakable and MJ had been talking about. There were other imposters too on LKL, but their comments were silly and irrelevant (for example, I remember when Canadian Sandy once noticed an absurd comment made under her name by another person).

mjsheerbrilliance   October 4th, 2009 9:03 pm ET

There should be some kind of security measure put in place to disallow these things from happening.

Jessie from Auckland, NZ   October 4th, 2009 9:06 pm ET

Yes, I think I am done too. Over and out.

Victoria J   October 4th, 2009 9:12 pm ET

@ Jessie from Auckland, NZ

"Maybe we're all IMPOSTERS then."LOL! I hope not...I hope you meant that to be just struck me that way.

Mila   October 4th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

If it was just you and Michael in the room and you didn't post the comment then the only other person who could have posted it is Michael – don't you think.

Maybe he posted it under your name so that he'd give the message to you only.

Last night I asked **mj** to say something if he knew you indeed – maybe he did.

Maybe the tear that you feel like crying should be tears of joy.

bella   October 4th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

@Mila – my thoughts exactly
@Unbreakable – your account made my cry, MJ is such an angel- never give up, always keep the faith, I think it was a message for you.

MaryRM   October 4th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

or maybe it is a warning shot from someone who overheard or even just saw her hobble.

maybe an email to LKL will straighten it up – they have the email addresses of each of these posts

Mila   October 4th, 2009 10:03 pm ET

**mj** if it was you posting this comment for Unbreakable – THANK YOU !
and please ... come back as yourself.

Alicia   October 4th, 2009 11:07 pm ET

Thanks for answering my questions. I don't want to belabor the point (but isn't this what we are doing anyway 🙂 We all know that anything we hear about Michael from, really, any source, is always subject to interpretation and/or doubt. "If you don't hear it from me, don't believe it" MJ. I know we no longer have MJ to defend these things, but why do we just believe what we are hearing about his "addiction" without actual proof, unless you have it? The latest autopsy 'leak' stated his organs were fine, except his lungs. If he had been doing so many drugs, his liver would be fatty and very affected. I have a little experience with addicts as well, since I am one, in recovery. There are many conflicting reports on the subject of his drug use. I am reluctant to believe he was such an addict without actual proof, and since we may never get that......I don't know if we should assume it. Do you know something for sure?
Or anyone else? I know, Unbreakable doesn't want to go into it, which I understand. But I would love it if he could shake the 'addict' lable.

Thanks, Truth for Michael, it is up to us.

Maria   October 4th, 2009 11:14 pm ET

Just a thought and please don't shoot me – could it be because Unbreakable was wrong about her own post? When we are very tired or very nervous, it happens that we don't remember our own words. Or the opposite – we believe we said or written things that in fact weren't said or written at all.
I say this because such thing has already happened to Unbreakable a few hours ago:

Unbreakable October 4th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

I do NOT have a Facebook.

I do not even recall writing that.

Someone else wrote that,because I did NOT!

Now I am going to have to go look thru all these comments to make sure this did not happen more than once.

But I do NOT have a Facebook.

I remeber writing more than once I did not have one.

But I swear, I do NOT have a facebook.

I checked out her comments since Friday and saw that in fact she did post only once about Facebook, when she said she has a Facebook account. And then, when we copied and posted that comment of hers, she remembered everything and explained it.
So maybe she simply forgot about the leg&wings comment as well and thought again it was an imposter?

Tamara   October 4th, 2009 11:25 pm ET

@ Unbreakable you have a good heart and are a good friend... you have said only positive things and stated to the public he is a great person. Michael was lucky to know someone like you. I wish you where more of a personal friend to him, not just a professional. Everyone can benefits from a loyal good hearted friend, especially Michael.

Alexandra, Poland   October 5th, 2009 1:49 am ET


Do you see my speech somewhere? It may be the proof. At the beginning.... No one is offended and someone deleted my speech... (:

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 2:25 am ET

Maria,i dont think,somebody is that stupid.The facebook storie was kinde of diferent.She didnt whant to spend time to explaining ,that she dont have faceboook,but her friende have... bla-bla-bla,so she just wrighd first,she have.This is so diferent,a whole storise,a whole big comment...

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 2:27 am ET

Unbreakable,i cant think about nothing else.If you ara,who you say so,and this realy happend,then this is a message for you.I was very sceptical antyl now.We whant to have a pruve,and we got.Well Unbreakable the one,who knows for sure.If this is not pruve,then what is?

Alicia   October 5th, 2009 3:04 am ET

@Stu, proof of what? What is the message and what were you skeptical of? (Sorry if I missed something.....:)

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 3:21 am ET

Unbreakable was wrighd a storie,that happend to her with Michael,but then she said,she didnt wrighd the comment,somebody else did,but the weird thing,is,the storie was true,and only she,her parents and if i rememberhe sure,her parents and the friende didnt wrighd under her name this storie...So,who else was?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 3:25 am ET

Now or Unbreakable was make a good plan to make us to believe,that Michael is a life,or Michael was wrighd for her.

jacqueline\nl   October 5th, 2009 5:48 am ET

hi girls

In a world with hate,we must still dare to hope
Ina world with anger,we must dare to comfort
In a world with dispare,we must dare to dream
And in a world filled wiht distrust,we must dare to believe


Maria   October 5th, 2009 7:22 am ET

Stu, Unbreakable is obviously smart, so I don't suspect her at all of being stupid.
I only noticed that the same thinking pattern ("it wasn't me! someone else wrote it!") had worked in both cases and within the same day. And I know that when there's a huge pressure and stress on someone or when very strong emotions are involved, a person can overreact or be wrong about many things, no matter how smart he or she is in everyday life.

If I'm wrong, then maybe indeed she wanted to make us believe MJ is alive (which I doubt though). Or maybe she wanted to get out of here in a more spectacular way and create an even greater buzz. Who knows.

Moonlight   October 5th, 2009 9:04 am ET

unbreakable, thank you for telling us your thoughts and stories about Michael! Each of us loves him from the bottom of our hearts! I know Michael is in the better place now, I pray for him and for his children each day.... I hope one day we'll know all the truth!!! God bless you!

Tatiana   October 5th, 2009 9:21 am ET

Michael!! We love you very very much!! We understand you.. wait you..
miss you..

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 9:37 am ET


lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 9:40 am ET

mjpyt– LOL

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 9:51 am ET

Anybody here?

Maria,i still think,she didnt doo this big misstake.The facebook was a diferent thing,and i dont think,she forgat that big comment.Here can be only 2 thing.Or she try to fool us in a very clever way,or Michael wright there,couse nobody else knew about the storie.I daubt,her parents would doo this or the best friende.I dont think,thet Michael Jackson is a life,and i olso dont think bad about peaples that i dont even know,I dont know,how to explaine this.I hope,Unbreakable can come up with some good explenation after her litle investiage.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 9:58 am ET

HI Stu

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 9:59 am ET

Hi Linda! 🙂 I am freaking out on this storie 😀

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:00 am ET

I dont think,MJ is a life,but i olso dont think,she is lieing,so i cant explain,and its drive me crasy!I hope,UB come back,and say something.

Butterflies   October 5th, 2009 10:02 am ET

Well said lindafromnewyork ,this is totally disrespectful to Michael. Many of the postings by **mj** dont mirror Michael at all. For starters he would never made preferancial remarks about fans from one forum to the other. Michael loved and adored all his fans from every corner of the Earth.

Such behaviour should stop. It gives false hope. I wish with every inch of me that this could be true but its not. There are many things that dont add up and are hazy,isurrounding his death, however this does not mean that he staged his death.

The truth will prevail as time goes by, but in the mean time we should focus on his legacy, on the love he believed in, the beauty of his personality, his understanding, his kindness that moulded him into one of the most special person who ever lived.

Michael love you always

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 10:07 am ET

Good Morning everyone

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:09 am ET


I don't why unbreakable would come and here and lie either–but it does not make sense–if this conversation happened between her and Michael-and they are the only two people who knew what was said–how can someone else come here and post something else about it-which unbreakable says did happen–if she did not post it who is she saying did?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:10 am ET

Hi Patty!

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:12 am ET

Good mornign Patty

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:13 am ET

–I know it is really getting ridiculous and mj needs to just stop. LKL should just block mj and the other imposters period.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:15 am ET

Well,why TI and **mj** came here to lie?TI was very inteligent person.What,if the same person dooing this game.I dont know,whay somebody would doo this,but obviosly TI didnt say the trought eider.UB was chak back her commenys,couse somebody told her,she said,he have facebook,and she forgat,she said that.So,she said,its true,she said that,probably it was more simple to wrighd that way instad of explaining,that her friende have.So that comment was not from somebody else,only thisone?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:18 am ET

But at a same time i dont think she is lieing.She came here like a fan,she didnt even what to tell us,that she knew MJ,just whenn everybody attacked her,couse she said strange things.So,i dont think,she lie,or she is very clever...But why would somebody doo this big fuleing here?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:19 am ET

Olso,if UB would not say the true,and she whant us to believe,MJ is a life,she would say **mj** is realy MJ.But she said,this person is not MJ.

MourningMJ   October 5th, 2009 10:23 am ET


Well said Linda. I, too have read the posts regarding both Unbreakable and **mj**. Unbreakable, your 7:01 p.m. post is highly suspicious- it appears as if you are eluding that somehow Michael Jackson broke into LKL, stolen your screen name, then advertised to this audience of your personal moments together, then proceed to throw a bone out to said audience and make them wonder if "it really could be Michael because only 5 people in the whole world knew of the information posted on the earlier blog" Many others may not have read between the lines, but several of us have. Some of us have caught on, many others are catching on. Unbreakable, again, I promised you that I would not disclose what was said in the chatroom between you and I, and I will not. However, I do feel that I need to call you out on some of these indiscprencies- you also continue to state over and over again, "you cannot come back to the chatroom" but you do- with more misleading information than the post before. I will never minimize your time or relationship with Michael. Anyone of us would be blessed to catch a glimpse at his angelic face. However, please be mindful what are you doing to several other heartbroken Michael Jackson fans. He would never support or approve of anyone eluding that his soul magically stepped into your shoes and blogged your intimate story with us- that doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, then it's not true... ihmj xoxo

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:25 am ET

MourningMJ,this blog dont have this savety,you can use any name.I can use your name.

Anne   October 5th, 2009 10:27 am ET

It is very easy to see how a naive, generous and caring person like MIchael Jackson was so vulnerable to being exploited by bad people like the Chandlers and Arvizos. They took advantage of his good will and emotional vulnerability and then betrayed him with lies out of greed. It broke his heart. He was devastated.

I watched LIve from Munich and Live from Bucharest this weekend. I think they were filmed about 1997 and 1993. In the earlier concert he is excited and happy and full of energy compared to the concert just a few years later. I think what happened to him in 1993 was devastating to him emotionally. It feels like the events of those last years were like a series of dominos falling and that if any one of them had not happened the downhill course would have stopped and he would still be alive.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:28 am ET

Maybe it is all the same person–TI, MJ, and unbreakable-it is very possible- of course she made the comment.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:31 am ET

Only she knows...

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:33 am ET


Unbreakable was wrighd a storie,that happend to her with Michael,but then she said,she didnt wrighd the comment,somebody else did,but the weird thing,is,the storie was true,and only she,her parents and if i rememberhe sure,her parents and the friende didnt wrighd under her name this storie…So,who else was?

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:34 am ET

That is what UB said

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 10:35 am ET

Stu was that the story I read yesterday about her and Michael after her surgery?
So she says she didn't post it.
It sure wasn't Michael that posted it and I agree I doubt her parents would

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:35 am ET

I mean,if i remember,her friende was the 5.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:36 am ET

Yes.The very tuching storie...

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:37 am ET

Patty–that is what I am saying

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:38 am ET

not bad patty–

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:40 am ET

So,you think,its UB game?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:41 am ET

If Ti,**mj** and UB is the same person,and UB is just playing,why she didnt say,**mj** is Michael?

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 10:42 am ET

That's why I have cut back on these blogs, Between mj TI and all these haters. These people that live in a fantasy the Michael is still alive.

What is wrong with people?
There are people here that really truely love Michael and are here for answers as well as support from other fans. It makes me sick that people come here and play these games.
I actually thought Unbreakable was ok. She really seemed to talk from her heart about Michael.
Has she explined this?

Anne   October 5th, 2009 10:44 am ET

I am embarrassed to say that Unbreakable really had me believing his/her posts for a while until someone pointed out the discrepancy in his/her answers about the facebook. Whoever pointed this out should go help the LAPD with the murder investigation.

Only a person who is seeking attention would keep coming back to post more detail after having already said they were leaving. This person may very well have worked with him but it sounds like it is somewhere between an embellished story or total fiction. If it is true, we will see his/her photos posted after the movie is released.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:45 am ET

Thats what i finde strange.I think,she is not MJ hater.After what happend,she come back litlebit later to tell us,she was speak to this 3 peaples (parents,friende),and thay told her,this is strange and weird,and she should stop bloging here.So she was freaking ot,and she said,she finished here.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:47 am ET

Her photos?Thay dont make photos of everybody,who was work on the movie...She was not a dancer,but working with computer.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:48 am ET

why would UB do that?–if she did then alot of people would not believe anything she said. she had to say that Michael was dead. Again I am not saying she is lying for sure I don't know-it looks suspicious. UB said something to me the other day with actually made me feel better about something and I was starting to believe her until–she denied making that comment. She lost her credibilty with me.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:49 am ET

Anne-I agree
She did say that she was leaving–and then low and behold here she is back-

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:50 am ET

The tuching comment or the facebook comment?I was believe her too antyl this storye,then Eli come up with the facebook,then this thing,that she dont knoe,who wrigh this comment.Now i dont know...

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:51 am ET

What Photos? UB posted photos?

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Sghe posted photo's of what herself or Michael?

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Couse peaples was start to atack her,that she is not a wooman,but a man,and she got angry,but other peaples usked her to stay.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 10:52 am ET

Linda,noooo,i was unswere to Anne.

Anne   October 5th, 2009 10:55 am ET

Someone asked her if she had any pictures of herself with Michael . She/he said she did but that she could not post them until after the movie was released.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 10:56 am ET


Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:01 am ET

Thanks for clarifying Stu. So then we should see her after the movie???

Anne   October 5th, 2009 11:02 am ET

In my mind, MIchael was so stressed and overwhelmed preparing for the concerts I just can't picture him being able to take that much time and effort to pay that much attention to one person and offer to pay airfare for her family to come to Ca and go to London etc. I do not remember all of it exactly, it just doesn't ring true.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:02 am ET

See her?How?Why? 🙂

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:03 am ET

Did they ask about pictures of herself and Michael or pictures of the work that she did

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:03 am ET

Photo's Stu of her and Michael. If she is truthful, she will post them somewhere after the Movie

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:04 am ET

Ohh,i just see now Anne coment.If gonna be pictures,then she said the trough.

Anne   October 5th, 2009 11:05 am ET

But I hope I am wrong. I would like to believe her as much as everybody else because it is an intimate connection to him.

Linda I think it was pictures of her with him that were taken at work.

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:05 am ET

Lets not forget


At least not the real true fans

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:06 am ET

But if there gonna be picture,then we can still gessing,who wrighd that comment 🙂

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 11:07 am ET


MourningMJ   October 5th, 2009 11:12 am ET


It's good to see that the mainpulators are beeing weeded out. If she is staging her "own hoax" she has poorly failed. Many of us take critical inventory of each other's blogs and "actually pay attention" to crucial details- like myself. I will fight for Michael tooth and nail, and if that results in me "loosing LKL blog friends' then so be it. I will not remain silent and allow others to manipulate other Michael Jackson fans into believing in a twilight zone that Michael is lounging in waiting for us to make contact. That is just completely absurd. Michael would never approve of this. ihmj xoxo

Alexandra, Poland   October 5th, 2009 11:12 am ET

Maybe **mj** is real, maybe not.

If he is true, is very sorry that suspected him of lying.

I wish to ** mj ** was the real Michael.

I hope so.... and as you know, hope dies last...

If it turns out that it is someone else, my heart will be broken.

The truth will prevail... and we will see....

Don't offend anyone, unless we don't know the truth.

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:15 am ET

MMJ I am with you 1000%!!!!

And no he would never approve of this.

marguerite   October 5th, 2009 11:17 am ET

Unbreakable was freaked about that post she didn't write. That came out loud and clear. I don't think it was faked.

Maybe the reason that people who have had contact with Michael in one way or another don't post here. Is they know they will be attacked and called a liar on these blogs if they do post here.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:17 am ET

Alexandra,dont live in dream,antil it is not 100% sure,for what i dont give much chance.I dont think,he is a life,but if UB give the pictures,i have to say,i dont know,what weird thing is going on here...

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:19 am ET


Michael Jackson is dead and for people to come on here and pretend that Michael is playing some kind of game is just being disrespectufl to Michael Jackson's memory. Isn't enough that the press tried to make a mockery out of Michael when he was alive–but now some of us his fans are doing the same by holding on to the lies that these people come on here with.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:19 am ET

Wuhuuuuu,we got the first snow today! OMG!

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:22 am ET

the people who actually had contact with Michael would not post here at all. Think about it-they all sign confidentiality agreements. They would be sued.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:24 am ET

Snow–I don't look forward to it–at all Stu

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:24 am ET

Sued,but who?This is with no name...

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:27 am ET

Trust me there are ways for legal authories to find your true identity if they need to –through your email address.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:28 am ET

She didnt say any speachel information,she was very carful of that.I think,thats why she didnt even whant to tell us forst,she knew MJ.Her reaction was very rel for me.I thin,she dont lie,something is going on behinde her back.

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:29 am ET

Linda people who do these types of things are not fans in any way. Fans won't disrespect Michael that way. These people that do this have problems. To them they are probably sitting and laughing when people respond to what they post.
I agree with you whoever comes on here claiming they are Michael are very cruel and empty souls. It's a sick joke.

Michael would never fake out his fans. He loved his fans with all his heart.
These fans that believe these fakes have a very hard fall ahead of them when they do realize this is all just someone being very sick and pathetic

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:29 am ET

I dont know,if you can finde in this sistems the e-mails.And it can be just a hotmail too.

Maria   October 5th, 2009 11:31 am ET

OK, so there are now only 4 possibilities IMO:

UB has indeed worked with MJ. She saw him as pretty healthy, not emaciated and dying from exhaustion. That's why she came here, to react against the latest rumors that he was emaciated and controlled like a puppet.

Explanation for ther "hijacked" comment: either she (or others) told the story about wings to more people than she remembers now, or she was too nervous and only thought the comment was written by another person. Outcome: maybe she will come back and admit she overreacted.

UB has indeed worked with MJ. Now someone else uses her and her memories together with MJ to fight what FK&TINI say about MJ being skinny and controlled like a puppet by AEG. That's why she comes here and tells us MJ was pretty healthy (again, maybe she really thinks so). Remember that these things aren't a simple dispute about MJ's weight – this is a full scale war around the This Is It movie. Some people want to boycott it based on the TINI revelations, so there are big economic interests at stake.

Explanation for ther "hijacked" comment: she posted it herself and then pretended it was an imposter, exactly like she did initially with her Facebook comment until I copied and pasted here her own message and confronted her. Outcome: people will think she is chased by bad people for speaking the truth about MJ.

UB has indeed worked with MJ. Now she is only an attention seeker here on LKL. Remember she said she was in love with MJ and wanted to marry him; she also said here (why?) that MJ told her some secrets that she couldn't speak of not even on her deathbed. Add to this the Jermaine-as-guilty theory and other unanswered questions (for example, I was curious why she felt the need to ask us what is our general opinion about **mj** – this is clearly a need for inclusion, I mean for her to behave like anybody else on this forum, just to be accepted an approved. Then, when people said bad things about **mj**, she started – very correctly, but this is irrelevant to my point – to explain why people like **mj** can't be believed when they show up in forums).

Explanation for ther "hijacked" comment: same as with Partial True 1. Outcome: more buzz, our admiration, sympathy and compassion for her are growing.

UB has never worked with MJ and maybe only read or heard enough things about the Dome project and other things, enough to make her lies sound plausible. She decided to be smarter than primitive, boring trolls like **mj** and told us a complex an coherent story about her – either to test our reactions and make fun of MJ fans, or to convince the most gullible ones that MJ is alive.
Explanation for ther "hijacked" comment: same as with Partial True 1 and 2. Outcome: maybe she will come back to "explain" things and continue to try to fool us.

Now it's your turn, Unbreakable. Which variant do you choose?

marguerite   October 5th, 2009 11:31 am ET

The people that I have problems with are the ones that claim they know what Michael would say and do. Because unless you was close friends with or a family member you don't have a clue what Michael would and would not say and do. So if you don't have proof don't say you know when you don't. Yes you could be a fan of his but that don't make you an authority now does it.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:32 am ET

Patty,i think this about TI and **mj**,but i am not sure about UB.But we will see,if she post that pictures.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:34 am ET

From what I understood–you don't discuss Michael Jackson period if you are an employee. Even if he sneezed at you.

Luda   October 5th, 2009 11:37 am ET

Hi everyone!

Ok. About UB, I'm gonna speak frankly. I use to stay quiet in these situations but I'll speak frankly. I believe it's someone seeking attention for some childish reasons... or simply making fun of people here. I don't believe TI and UB are the same.... TI was too smart and sounded like someone emotionally stable. UB sounds more like someone very unstable. In fact, she has been fickled. She came here days before saying she was just a mourning fan, Just an observer. Saying She didn't know more then anyone else here, saying she didn't know Michael after Susie asked her... and suddenly the day after not only was she claiming she knew Mike but she had worked with him, having private conversation with him... and blablabla the big Story. She was asked by LKL to come here... Come on!!! Why? to spy?Come on!!
By saying someone posted under her name informations just her and Mike knew, it obvious she wanted us to believe it was Michael. I absolutely don't believe Michael (supposed he is alive) would do a thing like this. I don't buy that at all!!! The informations about the Dome project are very easy to find on the web since June... anyone could invent a story like this because we all know how was Michael. anybody could have claim: 'He bought me tickets" because everyone knows it's the kind of things he does.... We could all pretend something like this... she kepts saying she was leaving but keep coming back to talked about her story... And by the way: Why telling us that, except to do a show off to say : "Hey I know MJ!" Of course, that looks good to say this!
Anne posted yesterday a very interesting comment about that kind of situation on a blog, here it is:

October 4th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

I belonged to a chat room for a movie star for a number of years. One night a new person came on and told us all kinds of details about him many of which we knew to be true. Still it seemed suspicious that someone would know so many details. Then very soon after this person was arrested for stalking the movie star for years. She had even moved to be closer to him. I was quite shocked.

Finally, I'm sorry if I sound rude this morning but We can see this story about UB invaded the blog,The whole blog talks just about UB. iT's the proof she's getting what she wants...
these blog should come back about Michael....

Sorry didn't want to be mean, but I had enough of this story that finally if it's true, we just don't need to know about it! What's the use of saying this!

I really think we should come back to Michael as a topic....

Maria   October 5th, 2009 11:40 am ET

Oh, and by the way, I see that **mj** is here under other name (mjpyt) and he continues to make fun under our noses. Nice.

Anne   October 5th, 2009 11:40 am ET

Wow! I am really impressed with your analysis.

They know us through our ISP. I have a friend who has a website and she can tell where all the people live while they are online.

I think I am going to work on a post defending MJ that I can just copy and paste every time I see a hater's post on TMZ. .

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:42 am ET

maybe **mj** and mjpyt is jhd,or what was hes name...

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:44 am ET

you are right–TI did sounded more stable–

I agree-this blog has become all about–mj, and Unbreakable

This blog use to be about Michael Jackson and it needs to back to Michael Jackson–he is one that brought us all together

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:46 am ET

Maybe we should post some nice videos to got back MJ moud... 🙂

But now i have to goo

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:48 am ET

What was the name of this idiot?jhd?

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:49 am ET

We have a new blog. Paris dancing

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 11:51 am ET

no - being fan does not make you an authority on what he would or would not do-But sometimes common sense tells you something is false. I never claimed to know anything more about Michael Jackson then what I have read or heard him say for 40 years. I can only go by my opinion that he would not do this to his fans.

Anne   October 5th, 2009 11:52 am ET

I wrote this today and no one even responded to it. I was thinking how easy it is to be taken advantage of unless you have your guard up.

It is very easy to see how a naive, generous and caring person like MIchael Jackson was so vulnerable to being exploited by bad people like the Chandlers and Arvizos. They took advantage of his good will and emotional vulnerability and then betrayed him with lies out of greed. It broke his heart. He was devastated.

This was the greatest tragedy of his life and led to his prescription drug use which ultimately killed him.

Iva   October 5th, 2009 11:53 am ET

been a silent reader..i love reading comments in every Michael blog..reading all the theories..and we have UB, mj, TI..well, i can never believe the hoax theory, coz we have police, coroners there's no way to fool i enjoyed mj and TI comments for fun. UB is another thing, though some of her statements seem to contradict, she seems like a person who knew him..i love her stories with Michael, sort of a remedy for me coz i miss him so much..and she said that Michael was in a good shape in his last days which kinda a relief..coz i hate to think that he's suffering or in pain..if she's not what she said she was..well..shame on her for confusing us, the fans..

Patty Anderson   October 5th, 2009 11:54 am ET

Anne tou are so right except I believe it's part of what destroyed him more. Those false accusations crushed his soul. It took everything out of him

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 11:58 am ET

I dont know,what is fun about it...Maybe i dont got humor.

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 12:04 pm ET

–i think so too–the Chandlers and the Arvizos both- It is just so heartbreaking the way both families killed Michael's spirit. He tried but you could see the pain. He loved being around children and becasue of these accusation he could not be as involved with them as he wanted to be even though he had done nothing wrong.

Maria   October 5th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

Stu, the difference is that jdf and John (the banned users) were SINCERE. They bashed us an MJ openly. They did not pretend they are fans. I'd prefer to have here everyday people than bash us openly than someone like **mj** or TI.

You know, in July there was a guy (Jokes Calm China) who pretended he's a friend of MJ from London. He targeted forums where people tended to believe MJ is alive and posted various nonsense – riddles, anagrams, lingvistic "clues", he even managed to get people to believe that "something will happen" by August 1. Then people realized they were fooled and MJHD banned him and erased all his messages. I think this should be a lesson for all of us.

I didn't know about his existence until last week, when I visited the MJHD forum to see their comments on KF&TINI. For the MJHD people, this troll belongs to the same family as our TI, **mj** or the fake Cassandra. We have to ignore such "fans", who may seem funny or entertaining, but in fact do nothing but mock MJ and us alike.

Iva   October 5th, 2009 12:14 pm ET

hi Stu..i'm not saying it's funny..i don't like people claiming to be who they are not and trying to fool other people particularly playing with other's emotion..but they seem to get back again and again and surprisingly lots were kinda expecting them..i just read the whole interaction through..

Maria   October 5th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

Thank you, Anne.
I should add that I don't think UB is on the same league as **mj** and TI. Many things of what she says don't seem googled or invented at all. And one's genuine confusion may be easily mistaken for premeditated deceitfulness.
But OK, let's move on. If she will feel the need to come back and explain something to us, very fine. If not, too bad 🙂

MourningMJ   October 5th, 2009 12:30 pm ET

@MARIA- I choose false! (Impressive, detailed description by the way. I support it)
@ LUDA- Brillant Insight. (11:37 a.m.) Many felt (not knew because we do not know) immediately that Unb. was an imposter. One contradiction is one too many for me.
@PATTY- Thank you for your support. NO, of course Michael would never approve of this dispicable, disrespectful behavior that many imposters are demonstrating in his tragic and disabling absence. And, re: your 11:29 commentary- of course Michael would never ever stage a hoax of this magnitude. He was a entertainer, but certainly not a miracle worker.
@ LINDA- The blood of Michael Jackson in on many hands, but his the death of his heart and soul are on the consciences of the Chandlers and the Arvizos. Like I said before, a colosal piece of Michael's soul died at the last trial, never to be summoned again. I hope guilt is a life sentence Jordan and Gavin.
@ANNE- You know, Anne, you just simply summed it up quite respectably: Michael was naive, but quite brillant. He was vulnerable, but built a wall around himself. Indeed he was generous, but treated poorly. He was a performer- and he knew everyone would believe him. He was blessed.... and cursed.
ihmj xoxo

lindafromnewyork   October 5th, 2009 12:40 pm ET

come on over to the Paris dancing blog

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

to all ppl on here and havent got a life i am mjpyt not mj peterpan or any other names out the bag i wrote the dinner and dog i can write what i want to a degree i wrote these to get a reaction from the over admired
**mj** i dont care what you think about anythink but i am a adult not a child i dont need to crave attention ive got a real life man fo that so i will stop writing in capital letters if thats the case i thourght this wwas supposes to be fun take a chill bill go uot side thre is a world there and its not computerised (big shock to your systems) if you have any think to write about come straight to me you gossip mongers and as michael jackson would say leave me alone just stop dogging me around heehee mjpty

shadow_dancer   October 5th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

Heyoo!!! Mjpyt!!! Howdy!! You are so pissed off... We'll KICK their Heads in? Now? haha Joke...

ibelieve   October 5th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

I have been thinking about this for a few sleepless nights. What can I do? That’s correct, what can I do for the man who gave me his heart and soul in his music? The one who has tried to give us all a message, but have we really been listening? So, I am going to do something about that, and I would like to invite all of you to join me. On Oct. 25 (2+5), at noon, central standard time, I am going to release at least 6 red balloons with messages of L.O.V.E attached, or maybe a chorus from one of my favorite MJ songs. He wanted to heal the world, well it starts with all of us. I belong to several different message boards and have read the bickering, therefore I am making this invitation universal. It doesn’t matter if you believe in the hoax, if you believe he has truly passed, what matters is that we all love Michael Jackson. If you think this is worthy, copy and paste it to other boards, blogs, social pages, e-mails, spread the word. It’s one the way I feel I can truly honor him. Please join me! All it takes is just one balloon with one message, that might find its way to someone who needs to know they are loved!

blanketparis   October 5th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

Very nice idea ibelieve HOWEVER, I believe it is against the law to release baloons because it is not safe for air planes. It would be tragic...

Please do not release balloons....maybe you can think of another idea?

All the best and your heart is in the right place.

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Sory mjpyt,you had some comments,that didnt make sense...Thats why we thoughd,you was a joker here.

illusionist   October 5th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

I've never heard of a law that bans releasing balloons. I see it all the time where I live.

ForAllTime   October 5th, 2009 2:01 pm ET

I am following this thread since a couple of days already (hey Larry, are you watching? So many comments on one single thread – buzz marketing is really booming!), and I find it really scary to notice – once more – how useless such conversations seem to be ...

Anyone following the conversation from the "observer's perspective" will notice that there is no change in people's opinion as a consequence of participating and contributing to this conversation.

Any participant is fully "blended" by his/hers own believes – no-one holds not even one single proof in this case, but everyone pretends he/she is the absolute holder of the truth and whatever the others say, would be used and twisted in such a way to eventually satisfy the very own need of the person in question to proove him/herself right; there are always the "others" who are bubbling around in the dark.

So if by chance, someone here really happens to bring some new facts into the eccuacion or express an objective opinion based on facts and not emotions, it will be quickly covered up by the dust of some meaningless conversation. You won't see the golden egg cause you are blended by the dust.

See where the conversation started, and where it got after more than 1000 comments. Need some help? Well, nowhere – you are exactly there were you were 1000 comments ago. So why bother?
The only big achievement are some new angry, some frustrated and some offended people on the way.

Was that the purpose of it all?

It is difficult to patiently hear to what the others have to say, it is even more difficult to accept the difference of opinion.
And it is obviously extremely difficult to keep an open mind.

Keep in mind that the whole case under discussion here is a real mess – no-one holds proof for anything, all the information available is questionable to say the least, all the so-called reports and information are nor official or made by officials, everything is based on "Y somehow got access to information X" or "a source said that" (or even worse, TMZ).

So before you jump and judge or pretend it's you and only you holding the truth, seriously consider the possibility that indeed, it's exactly you the one who might be proven wrong.

But if you are into it anyway, do keep the conversation positive, and above all, keep an open mind.

Be friendly to each other, don't look for an scapegoat.

The truth should prevail in the end, and this is the only thing you should focus on.

Love and peace 2 you all

2Bad   October 5th, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Just wanted to make a quick comment to Unbreakable. First off I love that song too, I don't think he got enough recognition for this album. It must of been quite an honour to meet and work with Michael, that would of been my best dream imaginable. wish you could continue writing but you probably got tired of defending yourself. People would love to ask you more questions as you would be honest and worked with Michael and knew his personality. You can join the other blog on LKL that has been up since early Aug, lots of staying power. Plus a few of us from there have given our e-mails as a very small comm. of MJ's fans. Don't know if you'd be interested.

still me just a new name   October 5th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

He was and still is truly loved !!


Even in death, Michael Jackson continues to be a guaranteed superstar. Just as the initial run of his planned concerts at the O2 arena in London sold out almost instantly earlier this year, the posthumous documentary about the King of Pop's preparations for that residency, "Michael Jackson's This Is It," has broken advance ticket sales records for a movie.

According to Reuters, hundreds of screenings in North America have already sold out, a month before the film's October 28 opening.

Among the cities with the strongest sales are Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston and New York. Records were also set in Japan, where more than $1 million in tickets were sold on the first day they were available. In London, fans bought more than 30,000 tickets on the first day, eclipsing the advance interest in the "Harry Potter" and "The Lord of the Rings" films, which were wildly popular in Britain. Record sales were also reported in Holland, Sweden, Belgium and New Zealand.

The documentary will have a limited two-week run, which might explain the rush on tickets. On Sunday, all 3,000 spots for a Los Angeles advance screening of "This Is It" on October 27 sold out within two hours.

The film follows Jackson as he rehearsed and prepared for a 50-date run of concerts, which were scheduled to begin in London just weeks after his death on June 25. Sony Pictures Entertainment paid $60 million for the more than 100 hours of hi-def rehearsal footage. The film, which was directed by Kenny Ortega, will feature behind-the-scenes footage as well as Jackson and his band and dancers rehearsing for the tour.

Last week, it was confirmed that a two-disc album featuring a new song, "This Is It," will be released on October 27 to coincide with the movie's theatrical release. The new single drops on October 12.

justathought   October 5th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Maybe Unbreakable is testing the credibilty of this Informer.

Maybe these stories are true and they are waiting for the informer to make comment about it being real.


This is total BS and they are waiting to see if *mj* or the informer claim its true, when its is not. Just some thoughts I had about it. Kinda sounds like maybe they are tesging the cred of The informer.

So who really knows. But I think they are testing this informer. it would sorta make sense becasue noting in this case makes any damn sense,and some think he is alive some think he is dead,its crazy. There is really mor eproof that he is alive than dead. i mean come on.

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 2:08 pm ET

Ok stu yeah they didnt make sense but that was the point .
But what does on here its none of it real life most of us dont
know who we are talking to most of the time
It just p**** me of when i got told about the comments
i no its only a user name but im representing it so im quite
on the defensive about it i can not stop ppl useing this name
In vain has you can be anybody u like on here mores the pity
Thats all i have to say so remember dont take things on here
to serious thats my advice just have a laugh
Peace and Light to you

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

Yes,we dont know each other,but wath we wrighd,usualy make sense ... 🙂

Butterflies   October 5th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

Only the moderator of this blog can sort this all out.

Moderator would know who posted what and if it was the same person.

He would know through email addresses and the IP address.

Come on Larry help us out on this one please.

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 3:08 pm ET

Ok stu they didnt make sense but who cares thats the way i write
i dont tell you or anyone else what to write so dont tell me
as long as its not offenive or crude i can write what ever i feel like
so if you see any of my posts dont read and trot on its your choice
im not changeing my personality for you or anyone so just carry on
and pretend i dont exist happy blogging

Peace and Light to you

Stu,Hungary   October 5th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

I dont tell you,what you should wrighd,i only explaine,why peaples thoughd,you are this MJ hater.

mjpyt   October 5th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

i wont write in capitals dont want to be accused of being the
alphabet blogger perish the thourght so stu now you know
i am me not anyone else never have never want to be so matter
closed he without sin cast the first stone not a riddle just a verse
from the big book so thats that also michael jackson rocks my
world and has done for over anumber of years

Peace and Love

ibelieve   October 5th, 2009 4:19 pm ET

It's not against the law here to release balloons, so I guess that you just have to do whatever you feel necessary. I am just trying to do something to unite everyone for a brief moment, instead of all the bickering. I respect everyone's viewpoint, you have the right to have your own opinion or theory. However, could we all just take a few minutes to let loose a balloon with a positive message so that MJ, whether or not he is on earth or in heaven knows we heard him. It's not difficult. It's one step to heal the world. Are you ready to make that change? That's all I really wanted to do.

Sharon   October 5th, 2009 5:01 pm ET

where is Unbreakable?

Rachel Martinez   October 5th, 2009 5:52 pm ET

I really do not know what to think about this *mj* person. *mj* if you are indeed Michael Jackson and alive, then I want to say that I hope you are okay and will reappear soon! I miss you terribly! I Love You Peterpan Atheart! 🙂

Rachel Martinez   October 5th, 2009 5:58 pm ET

Unbreakable, I believe you knew Michael! He was a sweetheart! I miss him so much! :'-(

Maria   October 5th, 2009 6:49 pm ET

mjpyt – I'm sorry. I didn't figure out you wrote like that because you wanted "to get a reaction from the over admired **mj**".
Peace to you too!

ForAllTime – you're right, of course. The irony is that each of us knows that what you say is true. Still, we got angry and suspicious too easily at each other and turn these boards into an endless chat with no other purpose than venting precisely the frustration caused by this case being a real mess.
I haven't seen yet a place (real or online) where MJ fans gather and where the atmosphere is different from what we have here. And it's not because MJ fans are mean or hysterical, but because, as you say, this case is indeed a real mess and certitudes are so hard to find. Maybe this phase will pass and everybody will chill out and begin again to be tolerant and relaxed. I hope.

Rachel Martinez   October 5th, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Michael, if you are really on here, I want to tell you that this whole hoax death (if it is a hoax) is literally killing me! I have so much anxiety, which comes from lots of anticipation. The anticpication is excitement thinking that you will reappear soon! There is also ALOT of fear! I want you to be alive so much! I miss you, Michael! I feel that I cannot handle this! Its too much for me. Friends on Facebook this you are really dead, except one. I am glad I can talk to somebody who has the same suspicions as me! I miss you! I want to post a song and letter to you I wrote:

To the Reader, to the Listener, to the World. Together we can change the World by sharing our Love!

Angel of Love

We are the children, the children of the Earth.

Searching for the Love, we’ve never known since birth.

Our eyes are used to darkness, the darkness of another’s heart.

Our spirits crave the light, the bright glow that will never part!


Hear us, our Angel, Hear our cries. Introduce us to Love.

Please be our Angel, our Angel of Love!

Take us, our Angel, into your heart.
Show us the meaning of this so-called Love.
Oh, please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

We are the children, the children of the Earth.

Yearning to know what Love really is, and what its really worth.

Take our hand, show us the way.

Show us the Love, we will cherish each and every day.


Hear us, our Angel. Hear our cries. Introduce us to Love.
Please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

Take us, our Angel, into your heart.
Show us the meaning of this so-called Love.
Oh, please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

Please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

Angel of Love

Please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

Angel of Love

Please be our Angel, our Angel of Love.

Angel of Love

Angel of Love

Angel of Love

Angel of Love

A Letter To You, Michael:

Michael, thank you for your precious gifts to the World, which is your songs, your voice, your dancing, and your Genuine Love. But most importantly, thank you for being who you are inside. The person God chose for you to be! I NEVER looked at your appearance in disgust, or your decisions to change. I admit, and I am being Extremely Honest, Michael, you are Handsome! (I see that blush) 😉

Also, it is not the appearance that matters; it’s what’s inside the heart, and the soul that matters. Your body and appearance may change due to aging, but Michael, your soul never ages. So therefore, we are all forever young.

*The Heart That Loves Is Always Young*

I Love You, Michael! God Bless You, Sweetheart!


Rachel Martinez (Simba Atheart)

Alicia   October 5th, 2009 11:41 pm ET

sorry guys, BlanketParis is right. Letting balloons go is not good for the environment. It can hurt birds, something about the atmosphere, gets into the rivers and oceans etc. Please think of something else....what about writing a letter to the editor of your local paper? Tell your community how much Michael has done and what he means to you. Through some flowers into the ocean or lakes in his honor. DO something for someone else in his honor. Make a donation to a cause he would have supported. These are all things I did. I don't mean to be a party pooper.....

ibelieve   October 6th, 2009 12:52 am ET

Hi Alicia. I appreciate your concerns, so I did a little research, and found out that balloons are biodegradable, just be careful what you use to tie them with.

Frequently Asked Questions Regarding a Balloon Release

BEFORE releasing balloons, please carefully review the information below. Please limit your balloon release to 10 or fewer balloons.

Balloon Releases: Environmental Fact or Fiction?

Erroneous reports about balloons and balloon releases harming the environment have appeared in major newspapers and on national TV news programs. Many of these reports contain inaccurate claims made by well-intentioned people who care deeply about the earth’s ecology — but lack the facts.

Balloons used in special event releases constitute only a small fraction of the industry’s sales. Unfortunately, these spurious claims have caused a chilling effect at the local level and unnecessary financial strain on many of America’s small, independent balloon retailers who depend on special events as a major source of their livelihoods. Small industries such as delivery and decorating services also suffer.

Most consumers don’t have the time or inclination to sort through bad information disguised as fact — often resulting in a negative perception that balloons are bad.

Latex balloons are sometimes confused with plastic items and lumped in with the plastics litter problem. The oft-used phrase, “latex balloons and other plastics” is improper. Latex is not a plastic. It’s organic, made from the sap of rubber trees collected through an absolutely harmless tapping process very simple to that used for collecting the maple sap used for making syrup.

Moreover, latex balloons are totally biodegradable — the only type of balloon used in a professionally-produced mass release. A latex balloon’s molecular structure begins breaking down with inflation and gathers momentum when exposed to sunlight and the atmosphere. Within three hours, most latex balloons released into the atmosphere rise to approximately five miles, begin to oxidize, freeze and shatter into spaghetti-like pieces. Once on the ground gases and microorganisms attack the latex, continuing the natural decomposition process — even in the dark.

Scientific research, most notably by D.K. Burchette in, “A Study of the Effect of Balloon Releases on the Environment,” demonstrates that latex balloons decompose at a rate equal to — or faster than — an oak leaf under similar conditions.

Mylar balloons are foil-like, usually silver and cost significantly more (retailing for $3 – $8 each) than latex balloons. Mylar is a synthetic, metallized plastic/nylon material which is recyclable, but not biodegradable. Consequently, Mylar balloons are never used in a release.

Helium-filled Mylar balloons do get away accidentally because a string breaks or a consumer lets go. These incidents seem to be diminishing as a result of ongoing in-store awareness campaigns to encourage anchoring these balloons with decorative weights.

1.Use only hand-tied latex balloons and no plastic attachments.
2. Never release metallic balloons.
3. Never attach metallic ribbon to helium-filled balloons. Metallic ribbon and balloons conduct electricity and may come in contact with power lines when released.

We encourage environmentally responsible behavior when releasing balloons. There are some simple rules to follow that help to keep balloon releases safe.

We always practice the following steps to insure that our balloon releases are environmentally safe –

~ Never tie ANYTHING to balloons which are being released. Messages can easily be written on the balloons with a felt tip pen.

~ Only use biodegradable balloons. FYI- Latex is naturally occurring material made from tree sap.

~ Always use fully inflated balloons, and release shortly after filling.

The website I found this at can be found when you google it.

Thank you.
Peace and L.O.V.E

Alicia   October 6th, 2009 1:57 am ET

@ ibelieve
Wow, I didn't know that. Excellent research!! Just don't tie with plastic or use Mylar. Good job. Maybe I'll let one go, too!

ibelieve   October 6th, 2009 3:20 am ET

@ Alicia
Hugs! L.O.V.E!

Alicia   October 6th, 2009 4:57 am ET

Thanks, ibelieve, right back to you! Let's do ALL of it! Balloons and deeds!

Tamara   October 6th, 2009 5:22 am ET

will be there to release a ballon

Susan62509   October 6th, 2009 7:56 am ET

My theory of Unbreakable:

Unbreakable never said the leg/wings post was done by MJ. Bloggers just "concluded" this was MJ from process of elimination.

1. Since UB admitted to telling one white lie, she knew she was going to get harrassed again. She was put on defense the entire time she blogged with us. To avoid going through the insults again, she just came up with the loophole that she didn't post the leg/wing bit so she could leave this blog permanently. Then she came back after she discussed the scenario with a friend & he told her to leave the site also. Hummmmm. Confirmation really needed???

It appears to be more than wierd or coincidence that someone jumps to the end of her story with information that isn't public. The timing is just too perfect. Sorry.

Moonlight   October 6th, 2009 8:09 am ET

Unbreakable, please don't read the things some people were posting here about you! You should know that a lot of MJ's fans were reading ugly things about him written by stupid people, and they do not know what should they believe, that's why they were so cruel to you...As for me, I'm trying to see people with my heart not with eyes, cause the eyes can be blind sometimes but the heart never! I hope you'll read this my post! I FEEL THAT YOU ARE SINCERE WITH us! I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU FEEL GREAT LOVE TO MJ AND YOU KNOW AS MANY AS WE DO AND YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AS WELL AS EACH OF us DOES!Please come back and continue to tell us the stories about MJ, you were blessed to know him more close than each of us was so do us blessed as well! Be a provider!

secret   October 6th, 2009 5:18 pm ET

I am trying to find the video of the This Is It in pictures that was posted here on Oct 4th and I cant find it on here anymore. I believe Anne was the name of the poster that posted it and it must have been removed or something.

If anyone can re-post it I would appreciate it...Thanks

Bella   November 20th, 2009 12:50 am ET

Dear Michael,
I have no idea where you are right now. But what I do know is that this message will make its way to you somehow. If you are gone, I know that it will make its way to heaven. I just wanted to let you know that I have loved you my whole life Michael. You are the most beautiful person to me. I've always seen you as a human, unlike other superficial celebs. These past 5 months have been the hardest months I've ever had to endure. I truly love you from the bottom of my heart. I've enjoyed watching you grow and change and I've enjoyed how you have changed my life. You taught me to love people from the inside...I'm multi-racial and growing up was sooo hard. But YOU never saw COLOR and you taught me not to live my life as a COLOR...but as a human, a real human with real feelings. I can't stress enough how beautiful you are to me. Seeing you smile makes me smile, when you laugh I blush and giggle. I've always wanted you to be happy. To see a light in your eyes, knowing that you are HAPPY. You went through so much in life, and I hope and pray that no matter where you are, no matter what, you are happy. Michael, you were my first crush, I've loved you since the day I laid eyes on you. Not just your physical appearance, but I fell in love with your soul. For the rest of my life I'll always feel like a part of me is missing, without you. I love you Mike, and I'll forever hold your hand.

"This life don't last forever, so tell me what we're waiting for, we're better off being together, than being miserable alone.."

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