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September 14, 2009

'Michael Jackson was a very controlled addict'

Posted: 02:13 AM ET

via telegraph.co.uk

art.jackson.skin.grammys.giDeepak Chopra’s voice – usually upbeat, velvety and soothing as he shares the spiritual insights that have made him a world-renowned, best-selling self-help guru – suddenly turns cold and hard when the subject switches to the death of his friend, Michael Jackson.

“It was caused not by the drugs he had been taking for years,” says Chopra, 63, who had known the troubled singer for 20 years. “He was a very controlled addict. But by him being given a particular drug that is so powerful that I have never heard of it being used anywhere but in an operating theatre with breathing tubes and a ventilator,” he adds angrily.

Normally emollient, the man often labelled "the spiritualist to the stars" is unabashed about highlighting what he sees as the bigger medical scandal exposed by the pop star’s demise.

“There is a plethora of designer doctors who will give patients anything they want as along as they are paid,” he says. “That’s why I’d like to see a criminal investigation. That way some good would come out of Michael’s death. But no one seems to be prepared to do anything about it – even when the drugs these doctors are prescribing are killing people.”

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Toni   September 14th, 2009 2:18 am ET

Can you please let the drug addict crap stop for one day. One beaytiful evening witha wonderful tribute, and you always have to ruin it. Cant these people get a life???


Cocovelvet   September 14th, 2009 2:19 am ET

Chopra, what do you mean MJ was a controlled addict ???........do you also believe in this ridiculous thing that MJ was actually an addict ???

Correct that a proper investigation has to get underway for all this dangerous prescribing to patients by doctors in greed for money.


Jacquelyn   September 14th, 2009 2:20 am ET

Why is this fake friend of Michael's still speaking? He belongs in the same class a Mark Lester. They all want to spill Michael so call secrets now but when Michael was alive they did nothing for him. Go away.


pat davis   September 14th, 2009 2:32 am ET

Why does everyone have to say Michael was a "drug addict". They purposely want him to go down in history labelled as a drug addict! Why can't they be more professional and say, Michael had a problem with perscription drugs! Even Barbara Walters said that to LaToya the other night. This guy is supposed to be his friend/spiritual advisor, and he calls him a "controlled drug addict"! Some friend! I'm sure he got paid a lot of money throughout the years he advised Michael, then he turns around like the rest of these tabloid reporters calls him a drug addict too. I'm so sick of it!


Cocovelvet   September 14th, 2009 2:32 am ET

I also wonder why this Deepak is still making such comments........it would do everyone who cared about MJ a favour not to mention such issues anymore. Just let him now rest in peace pleaseee!!!.


Carol   September 14th, 2009 2:37 am ET

OMG Larry puhlease Deepak again???!!!! he's a fame whore! WE dont care what the f he has to say.....please upload more positive posts....ie all the VMA stuff...


Cynobia   September 14th, 2009 2:38 am ET

All I have to same if they want to call him this, the same should apply to Elvis. They make it sound like he was out on the street getting drugs and I am sick of it. These substances are something you get from a doctor, stop trying to make him look like a junkie off the street.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 2:42 am ET

This is unbelieveable.


Mariag   September 14th, 2009 2:56 am ET

I don't think Michael was a "controlled addict". I think he just needed the medication to control the pain. He was constantly in pain from the lupus, back pain and insomnia. I have a family member suffering from lupus and it is a 24/7 life of pain. Unless they are holding back infromation from the toxocology report, the only thing in his system was the medication the doctor gave him that night.


denise   September 14th, 2009 2:57 am ET

Carol - I like your sense of humour, lol. Deepak is promoting his book and lecturing.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   September 14th, 2009 3:06 am ET

No "good" will come from Michael's death. He shouldn't be dead in the first place.

THROW 'EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN!


pat davis   September 14th, 2009 3:11 am ET

EVERYONE'S TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK OFF OF MICHAEL'S DEATH!


Marmoura   September 14th, 2009 3:11 am ET

the only thing he was 'controlled' by were the slimes surrounding him ie., Murray and Tohme.


Mariag   September 14th, 2009 3:12 am ET

I have to believe that even though he has passed some good has to come of all this. It can not have been in vain. I always felt that Michael wanted to heal the world and his case will bring forward the fact that there are enablers out there and they should be stop. Stopping them will help alot of people to seek much needed help from true professionals from those who take their "first, do no harm"oath to heart.


Sheletta   September 14th, 2009 3:29 am ET

Pat Davis: I agree, it a dong shame who they are treating Michael now that he is not here to defend himself.


pat davis   September 14th, 2009 3:47 am ET

What is a controlled drug addict anyway? I thought drug addicts have no control. The drugs control them..... Michael didn't seem like he was controlled by any drug to me!


Irina , Europe   September 14th, 2009 3:59 am ET

I love Michael . If he was an addict , he suffered a lot and i love him more. He needed love, I think the addict is caused be the feeling of not being love and understended . Let;s pray to God for scients to find a medicine to cure all the addicts from the world. or mybe this medicine is calling just Love.........


jacqueline/nl   September 14th, 2009 4:05 am ET

hi there
here he is again that deepak creep
wants to sell his books in his fantasy michael was for him a good friend but for him now the name michael jackson is nothing but MONEY
why deepak you so called friend telling all that crap [we allredy now]
why not when michael was a live then he realist that you are not so good friend after all
deepak let michael rest in peace


Pauline (Germany)   September 14th, 2009 5:39 am ET

@This all makes me somehow belvieve that "SOMEBODY" saying "I am friend of Michael" will be the beginning of saying: anything that turns up to their wicked mind" ... well, then it become even worse "THEM" saying "I love Michael Jackson" turnes out to be really, really nusty. That is what you can probably learn out of this. "Never, ever trust a FRIEND." That is disgusting.

Very, very sad Pauline


MaryRM   September 14th, 2009 7:28 am ET

another bs story from the tabloids.

DO NOT CLICK THE ABOVE LINKS TO GET THE WHOLE ARTICLE. that brings you to the tabloids website and they monitor how many hits their articles have.

Deepak has his reasons for constantly talking about this. I personally don't care and no longer listen to him. He has lost respectability in my opinion with this behaviour


Raychil   September 14th, 2009 7:28 am ET

This moron needs to just go away. Who cares what he thinks. ThiS proves he was never Michael's friend. Now he's selling his garbage in the UK. Sick. of. him.


maryg   September 14th, 2009 7:54 am ET

Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Chopra AGAIN???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

WILL IT NEVER STOP??????


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 8:07 am ET

Has anyone noticed that the BS seems to be coming from the Telegraph?This paper has scum all over it and I don't know why it was posted here in the first place!!!


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 8:17 am ET

Chopra

You are a such a bloodsucker......sucking out any 15 minutes of fame you can on Michael...........not to mention money!

We have talked so much about u on these blogs.......and the fans do not have any respect for you whatsoever.

You keep saying you were such a CLOSE and DEAR friend of Michael's....yet you were not invited to the FRIENDS only funeral..........you cant pull the wool over my eyes and obviously you have not done so to the Jackson family.

I will not be buying your book or whatever it is you are selling......you call yourself a "spiritual self-help guru" ....well let me tell you.....YOU MISSED THE BOAT WITH MICHAEL!


mariau   September 14th, 2009 8:20 am ET

hello everyone good morning too much blog today.. thanks larry 🙂


mariau   September 14th, 2009 8:23 am ET

first of all Chopra is disgusting... his using Michael Jackson's name to be famous and advertice his book...
well Chopra... you've said you're good friend of Michael.. no.. you're not
because you're user like them...


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 8:33 am ET

Deepak Chopra sure seems to fall into the category of 'fake' friends!The term 'addict' used by him to describe Michael just makes me angry!


Emmy Lalonde, Belgium.   September 14th, 2009 8:40 am ET

I am glad that MICHAEL had a true friend as the person of DEPPAK
CHOPRA> Thanks Mr CHoPRA for your love to Michael. WE beleived that Michael liked you very much, as you were very close to Michael during his life and knew Michael more than anyone else in his life.
May JUSTICE quicker be done so and bring all who envolved to trial and JAil. JUSTICE for Murray and compagnies, HEEEEEEEEE???? VIVA Michael, forever, more. RiP.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 8:48 am ET

this is i really don't understand to Chopra – if he is really a good friend of MIchael during their times.. to think Michael hired him as a spiritual adviser, then why Mj elliminated him to get out of his system..
Michael was using using demerol, because of his painful accident in pepsi add.. and he was in to it because it' was prescribed by his doctors.. after a while, he was addicted to demerol, because the doctors was prescribed a higher dosage.. not normal dosages of this drugs.. don't blamed Michael.. blamed the doctors who controlled him..


mariau   September 14th, 2009 8:51 am ET

I THINK THIS CONTROLLED ADDICT means -- Michael was controlled by his wrong and negligence doctors.. as long as they get more money and they were paid high.. of course they will prescribe MJ any drugs they want.. as long as the money was involved..
to think all doctors has commission for every drugs they sold to a patient..
Michael was controlled by greedy doctors and greedy friends..


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 8:54 am ET

Mariau

Did you watch Tribute?


maryg   September 14th, 2009 8:58 am ET

Mariau: THINK THIS CONTROLLED ADDICT means —- Michael was controlled by his wrong and negligence doctors.. as long as they get more money and they were paid high.. of course they will prescribe MJ any drugs they want.. as long as the money was involved..
________________________________-

I second that!


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 9:04 am ET

@Mariau

The 'vultures' could only control Michael through getting him hooked on drugs and we know Tohme Tohme is one of them!!!!


mariau   September 14th, 2009 9:12 am ET

Lora Otawa – i can't play it .. thank you Lora

Samantha – as long as we knew Michael was not an addict he was enabled by the wrong doctors.. yes you're right.. remember MJ had lupus and Insomenia..
thanks for this video..


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 14th, 2009 9:13 am ET

I do believe he was addicted and I do believe it is possible he could control this under normal circumstances. However, the pressure of the tour became too much and he probably went overboard.

The Jackson family themself have now admitted through Joe, LaToya, Janet and Tito that over the years and also the last years they tried to intervene. They were well aware of the problem he had.

It breaks your heart to see how all attempts failed.


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 9:15 am ET

Mariau

Look on Youtube or google might be other videos out there of complete tribute


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 9:16 am ET

If you look at his pic here that is his real hair.....and if you look at pic of him lying in ambulance it is the same hairline.


Jacquelyn   September 14th, 2009 9:18 am ET

Do you notice everytime there is a tribute or something positive is out about Michael, LKL and other start posting negative articles regarding him the same day. Correct me if I am wrong and I am not didnt they do the same thing the day of Michael's funeral. Yes they did.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 9:20 am ET

Lora Otawa – i've noticed that too.. thanks i'm looking on youtube


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 9:22 am ET

I came across the above video on you tube but whilst I have given Jermaine the benefit of the doubt,I think some parts of the video have put things into perspective even with the concert rescheduled for next year.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 9:30 am ET

Jacquelyn – you're right.. LKL bolgs is mixed up with postive and negative.. 😦 i dont understand why???


Jacquelyn   September 14th, 2009 9:37 am ET

mariau

Because of who Michael was and what he has accomplished. They trashed Michael when he was alive they are not about to stop doing so now. They are all about ruining Michael's reputation like they did in life and now in his death.


Allure   September 14th, 2009 9:38 am ET

OMG, again the story with MJ as an addicted!
I'M ADDICTED TOO – TO MJ'S VOICE!!


Allure   September 14th, 2009 9:39 am ET

Ciao Maureen


MaryRM   September 14th, 2009 9:39 am ET

JUST DON’T CLICK ON THE (READ MORE) LINK TO GO TO THE ARTICLE.

THE TABLOIDS ARE USING US.

They will use the number of hits on their website to sell ad space and make $$. We use this information all the time in marketing.

Tabloids don’t don’t care if we love or hate them, they just want to sell the ad space. if we link to their websites often they can charge advertisers more – we will be enabling them and encouraging more articles like this.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 9:40 am ET

it's seems to Media was so dubious and ungreatful to Michael..
Michael was controlled by enablers, they prescribed him wrong dosages to get in with it.. all his doctors was negligence and greedy to think those doctors are resposible to everything what had Mj suffered..
they are business doctors they're greedy, their best intentions to help Michael was to put him in the worst situation and deteriated Mj.
in my own conclusion those doctors were doing their jobs not for the sake to take care of Michael, for the sake of money..
the more they gave him drugs the more they could have commission and benefits.. this is not the way of doctors.. this is the way of a businessman.. they just want profit.. in any other way around..
Michael's doctors thought that the could hide and run with it.. they never thought people would haunt them for their irresponsible and careless act.

Michael Jackson was not an addict.. he was prescribed by a wrong a doctor....


Honorine   September 14th, 2009 9:42 am ET

Chopra, where were u? What did u do about him being an addict(controlled or not)? Why didn't u do something to help him get off addiction if u were really the true friend u are wanting everybody to see now? How come u stayed behind closed doors and watch a controlled addict uncontrollably(as the media claims) run to his early grave? When will u stop saying all these crap about who and what MJ was taking, and start seeing how u can keep the legacy of your "friend" alive(maybe helping out with one of the gizillian charities he funded or maybe talking about some things we can change and not things we can do nothing about now?


Maureen (UK)   September 14th, 2009 9:49 am ET

Ciao Allure 🙂


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 9:50 am ET

@Maureen

Kudos to David Gest for suing the tabloid junkies for printing garbage about him!He was a 'true' friend to Michael and even said that Katherine is like a second mother to him.

Anyways,I think I'm going to stay away from the blogs for a while today and take some real action by sending letters out to the media.

Till Then.

'Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons." – Michael Jackson


mariau   September 14th, 2009 9:50 am ET

Maureen (UK) thanks for this link.. – i like david gest - he's been a good friend of the Jackson family and very close to MJ..
then, David gest is not speaking to media about MJ, and because he really knew Michael. He is not the guy who wants circus and he is not the one like Chopra always telling that he was a good friend of MJ.

David Gest is a good friend fo Michael eversince but never spoke anything, he dont's rides circus anyway.. i've watched him on mtv..arabia, He gave tribute to Michael for 2 weeks.. and he said.Michael it's okay, you are the best entertainer and performer , Michael you are legendary the king of pop.. noone could relpicate you..
He was so sincere to Michael, but LKL dont want to invite him to guest in his show, because.. of what???? because 100% David will speak all the truth and positive to MIchael. David gest was on Michael sides during his trial 2005...

who i'm gonna believe Chopra or David?????


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 14th, 2009 9:53 am ET

Honorine,

I agree with you on asking Chopra for accountability, however, I do think he was right in the diagnose. Therefore he even had more responsibilty, he knew.


Maureen (UK)   September 14th, 2009 9:53 am ET

True, Samantha, SA
Michael had such a good philosophy.


Maureen (UK)   September 14th, 2009 9:56 am ET

Mariau,
You're right, David was a good friend for Michael.

See you later girls 🙂
Where's Gene today ?


Honorine   September 14th, 2009 10:11 am ET

Eli,

just thinking about the fact that he was in a very good position to do something and did nothing, i wanna chock him sometimes , u know. He should remain where he was while MJ was fighting for his life. Coz now, i think he is just taking advantage. Damn!


denise   September 14th, 2009 10:19 am ET

Samantha – South Africa
Thanks for the video. IMO, Jermaine is putting on an act, seems phonie. I read his profile back then, the video speaks for itself, one article said that artists' career would take a nosedive if they join the concert.

I too don't want to see anyone butcher Michael's songs. MJ is irreplaceable...Janet's tribute @ VMA was phenomenon!! I'd like to see something at that calibre and no less.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 10:19 am ET

Everyone should watch that video Jermain's bogus charity. I had no idea how many children he has had and that he cannot afford to support them. How many children? I lost track. If you cannot support your own children, you have NO business organize a charity tribute.

No wonder none of the stars wanted to participate. It was all a FRAUD.

It really makes me mad that Chopra keeps going on about MJ being an "addict" but never says MJ had a severe anxiety disorder and took tranquilizers for it and became dependent on them or whatever. He didn't just take street drugs to get high which is what people think when they hear the words drug addict. I thought Chopra was his friend but now I put him in the boat with people who are trying to use their connection to MJ for personal gain to advance their careers. If he knew all this, why didn't he help him??

Although maybe by drawing renewed attention to it, the district attorney will feel pressured to press charges against the docs instead of hoping it will all go away.

I love MJ and cried my eyes out last night after the trailer and Madonna's speech. i am so sad he has died. Please stop saying mean things about him.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 10:23 am ET

anne- i agree with you you're english is better than mine.. thank for this..


denise   September 14th, 2009 10:29 am ET

Anne - all these info were on many articles but glad someone put it together. MJ fans deserves to know.

Honorine - if you notice, Jermaine always says his children are close to MJ's 3 children, they played together. I think everyone has lost tracks with their focus on the investigation of MJ.

Proceeds from concerts, DVD, etc should provide more transparencies to MJ fans as for which charities it goes to. I would rather see proceeds go to the ones listed on MJ's list and not some hogus bogus charities. That's just my 2cents.


Honorine   September 14th, 2009 10:40 am ET

denise,

to be honest with u, i think, uhmmm, well...haaaaaa(u know that si u do when u are tired? taht's it right there). In short, i think he is close to a mess right as to the direction he is heading to. He seems to be focused on all else but the investigation, so are the authorities. What's going on now, i have no clue. I think they have more than enough info to take some decisions, or maybe they want the family to make the bigger step/ i don't know. But i'm here and waiting. like always.


denise   September 14th, 2009 10:43 am ET

Honorine
Totally agree with you, at the back of my head, it's saying maybe someone is trying to cut a deal. I hope I'm wrong.


Honorine   September 14th, 2009 10:46 am ET

Denise,

i tell u, it's freaky.


Honorine   September 14th, 2009 10:46 am ET

Linda,

thanks 4 the link. I'm on it.


pat davis   September 14th, 2009 10:58 am ET

Samantha,

Thanks for sharing Janet's performance. She rocked the house. I just watched it and once again it bought me to tears. I loved her intensity and the emotion behind her performance. It screamed, "I miss my brother", and that look she gave at the end said F-U to all those who contributed to his death. A powerful performance. She's still got it.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 11:25 am ET

Chopra needs to just shut the hell up–I will never forget how he came on Larry King the day after Michael died badmouthing him.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 11:27 am ET

Pat davis

I got that same feeling from Janet's performance
good for her-F-U is right-so proud of Janet Jackson


mariau   September 14th, 2009 11:35 am ET

linda – finish i singed the petition and write my comment i dont hide it..


sarah   September 14th, 2009 11:46 am ET

Only if Michael was little bit responsible or careful none of this would ever happened, its just don' t add up why would Michael be taking all those dangerous drugs right before The biggest come back of all time. he had a sleeping problems but he wasn't stupid he might have know the danger of that drug...Now all these so called friends of his calling him an addict its soo heart breaking and wrong.... 😦 something is missing ....maybe i am wrong ...confused......

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN!!PEACE!!!!


Barbara   September 14th, 2009 11:46 am ET

@lindafromnewyork-I signed it. thanks!


mariau   September 14th, 2009 11:47 am ET

sarah – how are you? well said..


mariau   September 14th, 2009 11:48 am ET

sarah – please sign the petition linda from new york posted it here.. please check the link..


sarah   September 14th, 2009 11:57 am ET

Mariau im ok, thxs for asking .... & yes i did sign the Petition as soon as i saw it ......

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN!!PEACE!!!!


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Barbara-yw


Mimi   September 14th, 2009 12:10 pm ET

CHOPRA OR CHOP TA IS NO FRIEND OF MICHEAL'S SIMPLE. AND FOR THE RECORD, MICHEAL IS AND WAS NO ADDICT THE WAY U EVIL MEDIA MORONS TRY TO POTRAY HIM..

DRUG ADDICTS LIKE COCAIN OR HEROIEN IS DIFF FROM MEDICAL ADDIDCTS TO PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IN THE SENSE THAT MICHEAL WAS NOT LOOKN TO GET HIGH SIMPLE!!! HE JUST WANTS TO SLEEP.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Sarah I don't believe Michael was taking all those drugs. He was a stock piler.
Has anyone ever heard the police announce the dates on those prescriptions they claim they found? Of course not. They don't want anyone to know that alot of them could've been from 20 years ago. Come on he never would've of been able to function like he did if he was taking all that crap!! Most of those drugs make you very dopey and spacey


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

Thank you everyone for signing the petition. If the link gets removed just go to my FB page. I have it posted there as well.


Maria   September 14th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

@ Eli (9:13 am): Ditto.
Chopra doesn't want to say MJ was taking heroin or crack, so I don't find anything insulting in his statement. Yes, he should explain better why he couldn't help MJ, but I doubt he is to blame for what other doctors did. It's the same question as with the family – if they didn't manage to save MJ, does this make his family a bunch of enablers?

You take prescription drugs to sleep, you take prescription drugs to escape physical pain, you take prescription drugs to escape anxiety and stress, you take prescription drugs to be able to be awake and energetic and to perform on the stage. Problem is what kind of prescription is it. If doctors overprescribe or prescribe a drug for off-label use, things will go as wrong as when you take street drugs. I guess most doctors don't do such things – otherwise, half of the world population would become addicted and die from that.

I don't think it's correct to blame MJ's friends or acquaintances who tell what they know, only because "people will think he was like a street addict". If the truth is not told and the enablers aren't identified and prosecuted, then people won't be able to tell the difference between responsible doctors and cynical drug pushers like MJ's so-called doctors. And they will believe that propofol is used for treating insomnia.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 12:23 pm ET

Like I said-I don't believe that Deepak Chopra was a true friend–A true friend would not have come on LKL and say the things he said about Michael-


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

Deepak Chopra came on LKL and said alot more than Michael being addicted to Prescriptiond drugs-You need to watch it.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

Yes–Thank you for signing that petition

We have to stop these people


Anne   September 14th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

I think he is trying to stick up for MJ. But I do not know why he has to call him a derogatory term "controlled addict". I think he fears MJ's killer will escape prosecution because of his previous alleged "drug addiction" which was under control and did not kill him – a separate issue.

“It was caused not by the drugs he had been taking for years,” says Chopra, 63, who had known the troubled singer for 20 years. “He was a very controlled addict. But by him being given a particular drug that is so powerful that I have never heard of it being used anywhere but in an operating theatre with breathing tubes and a ventilator,” he adds angrily.


denise   September 14th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Jacquelyn
I have noticed, it's a patternlike. Days like these we could avoid the tabloids and watch MJ videos on youtube etc, MJ marathons!! and blog without reading the tabloids.

Jacquelyn September 14th, 2009 9:18 am ET

Do you notice everytime there is a tribute or something positive is out about Michael, LKL and other start posting negative articles regarding him the same day. Correct me if I am wrong and I am not didnt they do the same thing the day of Michael’s funeral. Yes they did.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 12:33 pm ET

Amen Linda. If you are a true friend, you keep your mouth shut and discuss private things with certain people only. You keep it private period!!!


mariau   September 14th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Linda – i agree with you, Michael was using drugs for ailments not for drugs as drugs junkie used.
then, if chopra really honest why he should not tell the exact meaning of CONTROLLED ADDICT.. he never said the exact drugs Mj using it.
until Klein spoke about demerol, and then the next thing chopra told about demerol..
if chopra new about Michael's pain and ailments.. then why he shouldn't tell straight and why he was not specific on his words,
until, the LAPD release this statement that Murray prescribed such drugs for insomenia and anxiety.. as i remember chopra claimed that he was good friend of Michael.. to think being MJ's spriritual adviser, Chopra was attempting to convince Michael to some kind of religion that's why Michael cut him off to his life.. remember Michael never wanted anything he doesn't want..


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

Patty
That's right-You keep your mouth shut-unless the authorities call you. At this point–I think MIchael's true friends–were Miko Brando, Chris Tucker, Macauly Culkin–I think they are the only ones who not come LKL and dig into MJ's personal life.


maryg   September 14th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

don’t think it’s correct to blame MJ’s friends or acquaintances who tell what they know, only because “people will think he was like a street addict”. If the truth is not told and the enablers aren’t identified and prosecuted, then people won’t be able to tell the difference between responsible doctors and cynical drug pushers like MJ’s so-called doctors. And they will believe that propofol is used for treating insomnia.

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I don't want to get into an argument with you but I completely disagree. Chopra has done nothing but talk about mj' 's 'addiction". Now, he is calling it by another name: "controlled addict". He is putting it out there...Do we even know what that means? Does the public? What do you think they will think when they hear that? Do we even know if he suffered depression or anxiety? People who take anti depressants and rely on them to get through, are they addicts? We know he suffered from insomia, but do people who rely on sleeping aids, addicts?I feel that as a doctor and supposed friend or spiritual advisor, he has a responsibility to make sure that people do not get the wrong information or the wrong idea about his friend. He is throwing "terms" and "labels" out there and that will do no one any good. BTW, why is he always so readingly available to talk about mj? He should stick to his consciousness theories.


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 14th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

To Linda:

I have signed the petition, thank you,
this is also very important for the Tabloid-media WORLD-WIDE.
In my own country I send an email when the 'gossip-media' on the national t.v. is disgusting. I am ashamed of all this garbage.


Diane in Minneapolis   September 14th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

Hi All –

Am writing on this blog about all 3 stories because it's the newest and fastest.

MTV-
Have always been a Madonna fan even thru her reported 'weirdness". Her speech was amazing and heartfelt. Janet's performance was also. Her facial expressions looked like MJ's and I was glad to see it. This awards show is a sad reminder of the one-dimensional artists we are left with now that MJ is gone. Absolutely no one can compare.
I love the trailer and will see the movie. I think he looks fab. He probably shot this footage in preparation for "the Making Of This is IT Final Concert" – much like he did Thriller. Lucky for us he was a genius.

Addict Story:
IMO – I don't think what Chopra said is so terrible. He uses the word addict interchangeably with dependant and that is offensive to some but, ......to me, he was saying that MJ had so many health issues that he had to take a lot of meds but he did what he could to control the interactions. So as much as he could, he tried to be responsible with his meds. Chopra is mad that a Dr or Drs told MJ that he could safely take propofol with his other meds. He wants them all investigated and prosecuted. I might be whacky on this or missed something in reading it but to me....he is focusing on the Drs. and saying MJ was trying to be responsible. The pain meds he was on are highly addictive and cause insomnia and I think Chopra was saying that MJ was aware of that and trying to control it Just my opinion!


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

DON’T WATCH INSIDER OR ET—THEY ARE COUNTING ON US WATCHING


sarah   September 14th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

Hi what happened to this it blog. ?????

Fans of mj from pakistan !!!!peace!!!!!


maryg   September 14th, 2009 1:31 pm ET

Denise: then chopra should be talking about doctorst that administer propofol and leave out the "Michael was a controlled addict" part. That, to me anyway is sensationalizing it....it leaves too much room for misinterpretation. Like I said before, and WE DO NOT KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE but anyone taking meds for this aliment or that (such as depression) is not necessarily an addict!


Barbara   September 14th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

As for The Insider or ET-I've got better things to do...like wash my car in the rain. LOL


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

LOL Barbara either you will get wet.


maryg   September 14th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

I solemely swear that I will not watch the Insider or ET! I watched the tribute and I have been a mess since. To watch more attacks on Michael will surely send me over the edge.


Mila   September 14th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

What is "very controlled addict" supposed to mean anyway ???

He was controlled by someone ? who ?

Or he was able to self-control himself despite of his addiction ?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 14th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

Mariau,

you write:

"Chopra was attempting to convince Michael to some kind of religion that’s why Michael cut him off to his life.. ".

I personally don't think it was like this. It could be, but I think more that he his to do with minding your own business. When rabbi Boteach tried to talk about Michael, he also sent him away to mind his own business. I do believe both of them ( to an extend I don't exactly know), but it is wrong for them to come out with it.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 1:41 pm ET

Maryg good job. This attack will be one of the worst yet from DD.


Katinka from germany   September 14th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

I fully understand Mr Chopra´s anger about Michael beeing given propofol against his sleeping problems-I feel the same way

Who was the FIRST ´doctor`to administer that to Michael back then in the 90ies in Germany ???
I hope the police concentrates on that question,too
if it wasn´t for that person,Michael would probably still be alive


mariau   September 14th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

CHOPRA WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE A GOOD FRIEND OF MICHAEL BUT HE WAS A CRITICS LIKE MEDIA TABLOIDS..
HE WAS SPIRITUAL ADVISER OF MICHAEL.. HE WAS PAID... PERIOD..


Irene   September 14th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

DEEPAK YOU ARE A DOCTOR....!!

How about Hippocratus....! ? !

It is NOT NICE and DECENT...!!!!!!

Im throwing away the 15 books I have from you!


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 2:41 pm ET

I just hope and pray that we will hear something regarding the status of the investigation.–It's almost been 3 months already....Sh'mone.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Eli
It is not wrong; but there is such a thing as don't betray your friends. Certain things you keep to yourself.


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

I am a great fan of Michael, but I think What Deepak Chopra has said has some truth. Michael was dependent on prescription drugs, however he was enabled. I think everyone should stop the animosity against Jermaine, who i believe is one of the most sensible jacksons and Mr Chopra who is doctor and happened to be a dear friend of Michael. His son was Michael's friend too. It is true that although Michael has died because of medical malpractise, nothing is done with this crime. This was ruled a homicide. Where are the criminal charges? As fans we don't need to focus on Michael's family members and their attitudes, or Michael's friends. Remember these people were the closest to Michael's heart. Just because Mr. Chopra comes from another culture or Jermaine practises islam it doesn't mean we need to have negative stereotypes about them. They knew Michael well. We are only fans. As fans we should focus on whats happening with the criminal charges against the doctors who enabled his addition to prescription drugs and they should be punished and justice should surfice. Write another petition to say that we want justice for michael. We the fans want to see the hearing in favour of Michael. He died because of a lethal overdose of propofol. As a friend of Michael Mr. Chopra is wondering where is the legal system. What has happened with this case? I definelty agree with him. We don't only want to see tributes for Michael Jackson, but we as fans we want Michael to get his rights. Even though he's dead he does have the right to put whoever did this to him behind bars.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Remeber Michael’s death was Homicide.. not normal caused of death. to think that you would blame Michael to his own death???
yes, he was tired and exhausted because he was rehearsing so well, Michael wanted to be perfect.. as you could see the trailer of this is it movie.. we can conclude that MJ was really on it in this concert he just wished to come back brilliantly and magnificent as ever..
we can analyzed how Michael can perform as he wanted like ever before..
i dont understand that you still believe in tabloids, the way they showed photographs of Mj in the wheelchair, or totally cover up with mask.. Maybe this is not real Michael.. did you ever ask that why Michael should wore mask totally covered his face… Maybe media made this impersonator so that they can put something on their papers.
as far as i could see, Media was really obsessed to ruined Michael Jackson, when he was alive and until his death.. they never stop to ridicule and deteriiote his dignity..
they made stories so people continue to buy it. because Media was so selfish…. they really dont care how brutal they are when it comes to Michael.

until now.. MJ’s death was unclear and unresolve and we don’t know why?
Michael didn’t die because he was exhausted and tired.. He was died because of Dr. Murray..
Please just remember this Michael’s death was homicide… means
killing of human being by another or person who kills ahuman being… this is the meaning of HOMICIDE..

NOT BECAUSE HE WAS EXHAUSTED OR TIRED FOR HIS REHEARSAL…


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

mariau
Thank you


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 3:08 pm ET

@Mariau

I agree with your argument but I just have to clear up one aspect of it and that it was Michael himself and not an impersonator that was in the wheelchair as he used to suffer from time to time with what is called 'dancer's feet' in which his feet used to have cuts similar to that of paper cuts due to him dancing over the years and the pain used to be soexcruciating to the point that he could not stand and that's why sometimes you'd see pics of him in a cast and in the wheelchair.


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

I agree with Mariau. He was killed and nothing has been done yet. They rushed him to court on the molestation charges. Invaded his house and imprisoned him. Invaded his privacy. Now its time the legal system did their job and find out who killed Michael Jackson? and punish them for this. They were only making money from him. I depict the media who for years too k advantage of this great entertainer and exposed him to such ludicrous stories. Stories that broke him down and made him turn to prescription drugs. They used to call him WACKO JACKO and now they call him the KING OF POP. Its too late now the american media have destroyed one of the greatest entertertainers of time. May you get all the justice you deserve Michael. We still hurt for you.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 3:16 pm ET

I KNOW Michael was addicted to Demerol, and he admitted it he never denied about this drugs. He went to rehabilation to clean his addiction to Demerol.. HE ADMITTED HIS ADDICTION IN FRONT OF MILLION VIEWERS..
He was addicted because of his tragic accident of pepsi ad...
KLein admitted too.. he prescribed demerol to Michael but not specific details.. Klein didn't say how much dosages he gave to Michael.. after this demerol issue, Michael was move on, inspite of his dilemas he continous to finish his concert tour and it was very successful..
Michael move on but still bad luck came to his life inspite to help people, especially sick children like gavin arvizo... his trials on 2005 was big impact to MJ, he bacame frail and sad.. no wonder he exiled himself because Michael was really hurt physically and emotionally..
but after a year, he tried to cope up and move on because he has 3 beautiful children , that's why Michael keep his head up again to be more strong for the sake of his 3 children..
then he came up with his concerts "this is it" to move on and show the world that he was not fallen star... as they could imagine.. he was excited to do his concert to pay his debt and go on to his plan in life..
i couldn't blamed Michael why he accepted this concert This is it..
he needs to move on and go out for his fans.. and show the world that he was ok and can still sing and dance... he was overwhelmed during his O2 arena this is it press conference..
but this was all gone.. because for only one reason... because of there's Dr. Murray who just wanted to have 150,000 a month salary to pay his debt too.. and live in fancy life.. he did accept this job for the love of money not for the love his patient...


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

Theres alot of yellow journalism in the American Media. Half of what they say is pure garbagge. American viewers shouldn't believe everything they hear from the tabloids because its rubbish. I think that sometimes they don't have something to say so they make it up. Look at Britney spears they never left her alone either. A word to the media stay out of peoples personal lives. Just leave them alone. As a fan I'd rather know their new hits successes etc. I don't want to know about their downfalls.


Mary U from Ohio   September 14th, 2009 3:20 pm ET

The only addicts i see is the Media... they are addicted to lying about Michael....Look the Media been on this drug since Michael hair caught on Fire....
MEDIA... YOU NEED DRUG DETOX


Mafalda, Portugal   September 14th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

WHAT IF MICHAEL JACKSON COMMITTED SUICIDE?
What if he finally realized that he could not even do 10 concerts .... let alone 50?

What if this was his way out of a life he could no longer control?


mariau   September 14th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

mariam – as i could see Michael was really hurt inside and outside.. but still his kicking .. because of his children... and his fans..
he had lots of planned and dreams to his own family... but still they continue breaking him...
i guess, if Michael was in deep ailment, he can tell us that i couldn't make it.. like the way he did before admitting he was on drugs..
why he would lie to us and to his family???? why he would hide all this things???
look Michael strugled lots of bad things.. and still he to show us that he was strong and he make it...


8080   September 14th, 2009 3:25 pm ET

Take away all the drugs people are dependent on for their lives.
Digoxin-lopressor-lasix-this includes pain meds as well. Vicodin – prednisone for rhuemtoid arthritis. TAKE IT ALL AWAY KILL THE PUBLIC
Would like to see what DD takes


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

Come to think of it,the media started this vicious cycle of sensationalist BS in the mid 80's simply because Michael never did anything wrong and they then had to resort to making up lies about him!One of the first sensational garbage stories to go around was that Michael was taking hormones so he could look more like a woman,like seriously where do these retarded journos get these junk stories from?????


mariau   September 14th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

samantha – its more than a decade, media created more lies.. until now.. non- stop ... but i would imagine if Michael same as David Gest, sued all this media for libel.. i think they will shut their mouth


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

Diane Dimond-got rich of Michael Jackson-She was local beat reporter here in NYC on CBS for years- All of a sudden she goes to court TV and starts harrassing Michael and becomes this super correspondent–PLEASE. Now that Michael is dead-I thought she would leave him alone–but she won't stop-because she knows that if she doesn't report on Michael Jackson she doesn't have a job.


Mary U from Ohio   September 14th, 2009 3:44 pm ET

Samantha – South Africa
................................
taking hormones so he could look more like a woman,
..............................................
I wonder if Diane Diamond did to look more girlish.....


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 3:55 pm ET

I've just sent the following letter to Oprah:

Dear Oprah

This is in response to your show about Michael Jackson that is to air 16/09.

Given that the media seem to have overlooked Michael's humanitarian efforts by paying little or no attention to it since his untimely demise and would rather choose to focus on sensationalism and negativity.It would be great if you could pay homage to the man behind the entertainer as Michael was above all,an ambassador for Love and Peace who wanted nothing more than to help those in need and make a better world for all.

It undeniable that Michael has to be the most misunderstood man to have ever walked this planet and most people aren't even aware of the fact that he has donated over $300 million to charities across the globe and supported 39 charities worldwide which are both great feats on their own and have been listed in the Guinness Book of Records.We the fans would really appreciate it if you acknowledge Michael's countless good deeds including the several people whom he has helped over the years because without Michael gaining the recognition that he deserves as a global humanitarian,he would almost seem like an 'unsung hero'.

Thanks for dedicating a show to the GREATEST entertainer that ever lived.

Yours Sincerely,
Samantha M.
South Africa


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

@Mary u

I have nothing but utter disregard for that Demon!


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

Samantha

To my knowledge isnt Oprah just re-running the 1993 Interview with Michael?

I, for one, am sick and tired of Chopra calling Michael an ADDICT........stop it already!!!!! you've said a million times....every time u open your mouth about Michael......you should redeem yourself for having failed Michael.....you supposed "spiritual self-help guru"!!!


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

Mariau its very interesting what you just wrote. Samantha you are right. We all love Oprah, but we would love her show more if she gave Michael a great tribute and focused on positive things. I would also love it if Oprah would do a show about how the death investigation is progressing. I come from another part of the world and human life is very valuable. A homicide is not something taken lightly.


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 4:04 pm ET

Mariam

I know, for God's sake it's a homicide what are they waiting for to arrest him?

Any other person committing homicide would be arrested asap!


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

Samantha

they had nothing on Michael–so they started making stuff up-then that Pyrhanna Diane Demon–started with all her crap-


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

@ Lora

Oprah has stated on her website @ oprah.com that she would be talking about behind the scenes and never before seen footage from the 1993 interview.Also,she said that she would also talk about where she was on 25th June when she received the news.Oprah mentions NOTHING about Michael the humanitarian so I felt compelled to write her the letter so this show could perhaps do justice for Michael for once.


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 4:11 pm ET

I'm sure tomorrow there will be a blog about ET's portrayal of MJ and his injuries debunked! by his former childhood manager Weisner!

Another, termite, coming out of the woodwork!


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

@Lora

Who is this Weisner and what the hell is this former associate claiming now?


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

Lora,
I don't know what they are waiting for. They were very quick to charge him for molestation, but now that its his turn to seek justice they are very slow. We hear nothing about the investigation any more.
I love watching ET and the insider but I think Lara Spencer could have done a better job on the Michael Jackson Investigation why Diane Diamond? Lets stop watching ET and the Insider if they continue this crap.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 4:15 pm ET

Lora

After this Oprah will not do another segment on Michael, I can guarantee it. She is just going to be showing some unseen footage from her 1993 interview. Big F-- Deal-. Maybe it would have been better if she did nothing. You mean to tell me Oprah couldn't do a real tribute show-Ever since she made her comment about Michael, I don't bother with her show. Oprah is only doing this show on Wednesday because of the backlash she has received from the African American Community and not because she cares about Michael Jackson. Oprah is opportunist just like all the other media people.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 4:16 pm ET

samantha – good job.. well done i salute your letter.. 🙂


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 4:17 pm ET

Mariam

DON'T WATCH ET, OR INSIDER-THEY ARE COUNTING ON MICHAEL JACKSON FANS TO BOOST THEIR RATINGS


mariau   September 14th, 2009 4:18 pm ET

@samantha – good job well done baby... i salute your letter. 🙂


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

@ Linda

The whole bang lot are nothing but a bunch of opportunists!I just want to see if O does justice to Michael's character and doesn't spew the same crap as other tabloid junkies love to do!


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

I'll tell you this much, if Oprah says one bad thing against Michael–she will anger alot of people and she will regret it. The African American community is not happy with her right now. She better remember where she came from.


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

I'm not watching ET or the insider anymore. The only news I trust is from Geraldo Rivera or Larry King Live. These people are experienced journalists. I don't think I'll even enjoy watching the Oprah show as much.


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Ok,I've just learned after doing some searching that Ron Weisner was the J5's manager and appeared out of nowhere recently to co-produce the now defunct Vienna Tribute with Jermaine and according to Michael in his own words Joe Jackson and Ron Weisner never got along.

There's a bigger picture to this so could someone tell me more?


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

I think Oprah is fading from the scene....if she dishonors Michael it any way now, it could be the end of her...

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mariau   September 14th, 2009 4:31 pm ET

linda – is Oprah real on her show?? before i like her.. but now i doubt her.. to think she judged MJ too. i've heard her telling that she's not friend of Jackson to call them to say condolence of anything.. in THE INSIDER INTERVIEW SHE WAS PROMOTING HER PUBLIC CONCERT.. SHE SAID SHE WILL MAKE HISTORY CROWD.. DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS?


TJ   September 14th, 2009 4:35 pm ET

Watching VMA 2009's special tribute to MJ made me miss Michael more. It's so sad that we lost such a unique, very creative, and very talented entertainer so soon... and we still have that obnoxious Kanye West going strong and spewing nasty stuff to another recording artist last night. Why does God take the good ones first instead of the nasty ones.

It was very sad that while Michael was alive..the media was bashing him so badly from all directions and all he wanted to do was sing, dance, and help the world become a better place for everyone.


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

@Mariau

What disturbs me most is that Oprah has implied sometime back that she thinks Michael is guilty so it remains to be seen if this show will even scratch the surface with regards to the person that Michael really was.


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

@TJ – so true. Michael always had class. Wish Kanye had some. Maybe he better be taking some lessons from the Jackson Family.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 4:46 pm ET

For all of you in Denial:
MJ WAS an addict. Just because you do not believe, doesn't make it not true. I, myself, am a beloved, long-time committed MJ fan. I supported and defended him publicly through the injustices and debacles. Deepak is not a famewhore or pimping out his book. He loved Michael very much and was a genuine supportive friend. Deepak is just telling it like it is; it's sad and disappointing that all of you "fans" that claim how much you love him, do not want to hear how much Michael suffered the last five years of his life. You can't just have MJ for the music; you have to have ALL of him. Yes, that's including the track marks, the nodding off, the perpetual screams of pain from withdrawal in the middle of the night, his suffering, his denial, his manipulation, his avoidance of his family, his poor decisions, his desperate decisions, his loneliness, his lying, his disappearing acts, his broken promises, his tears, his depression, his self-hatred, his empty Rx. medication bottles, his sleepless nights, his hiding, his anger, his low self-esteem, his emptiness- his desperation. His entire life wasn't just moonwalks and glitter gloves. That's what you want it to be, but it wasn't. It's not for you, and it certainly wasn't for Michael. He suffered, his parents suffered, his brothers and sisters suffered and his children suffered. Actually, everyone is still suffering but him. No need to add unncessary commentary such as "oh please, this is too much with the "drug thing" already" or "MJ wasn't an addict" or whatever dumb comments you may contemplate posting. This "drug thing" is what killed MJ along with other numerous contributing factor; this is just the blade that severed the jugular. Please do extensive research before you unload ridiculous, unfounded commentary for us real MJ fans to review because you will be corrected and asked to be quiet. Again. Those who speak of MJ such as Deepak, LaToya, Jermaine and Janet are people will be much closer to MJ than you and I ever will be...


Samantha - South Africa   September 14th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

When Michael was facing the most trying times in his life,apart from those who gave him their support,where were all the others that are now rushing off to do tributes in his honor?I personally believe that if people in the music industry stood by Michael during the trial then they would have helped change public opinion and people would have realized that Michael was not the person that the media made him out to be!Talk about hypocrisy........


Zoe   September 14th, 2009 4:50 pm ET

I think what Chopra is trying to say by "controlled addict" is that he was addicted to pain medications, not recreational drugs. He only used controlled substances. However, the use of propfol was another story and it should not have been given to him For that, there should be criminal charges. I don't think what he is saying is different from what we have all been saying here. He was addicted to prescription meds.


mariau   September 14th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

OOH samantha – about ophra i hope she give tribute to Michael in a good manner.


Maryg   September 14th, 2009 4:52 pm ET

I am watching Oprah interviewing Whitney Houston and during a commercial break, she says, that she will tell us what she thought of him then and what she thinks now. I think Oprah will stick by him otherwise, she will loose too many fans.


Zoe   September 14th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

He also states the meds MJ was taking for years, would not/could not cause death.......but the propofol given by Murray is another story. He is angry and thinks Murray should be charged. I don't think Chopra is as bad as everyone is making him out to be.


Zoe   September 14th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

Diane Diamond has built her career condemning Mj. She is a despicable person and any media outlet that hires her automatically loses credibility.. I have heard her make incredibly cruel and inhumane comments about Mj, that I do not want to repeat . Worse part is that she made them while Mj was going through the lowest point of his life. I refuse to watch her, read her and this is the only time I will even mention her name. She is the lowest of the low and I wish the stations/papers that hire her would wise up. She is everything that is wrong with the media today. And I only wish someone would take her to court and sue her ass.


Karen   September 14th, 2009 5:05 pm ET

MourningMJ or Conrad Murray's lawyer??

Just because you say it doesn't make it true either. None of us really knows not Chopra who probably hadn't seen him in a long time and certainly not Jermaine or Janet. They were not that close to him.

You have absolutely no proof of what you are saying. You are making assumptions and conjecture. You are engaging in malicious gossip.

I prefer to stick to the facts. His prior drug use is not relevant.

So far all we know is that he was a homocide victim and that he died by lethal injection of propofol given IV by a medical doctor and IV benzodiazepam effect. Those are all the facts we have.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 5:17 pm ET

I do not believe anything that I hear negative about MJ because he has been the victim of too many lies. MJ suffered way more during his lifetime than anyone will ever know. I only believe the facts from the autopsy report and what I see with my own eyes. His "friends" use his name to get attention, advance their careers and make themselves feel important because long ago they were close to him. People have been persecuting him for years for things he didn't do.

People on tv are just trying to make people not like Michael Jackson which just makes his fans love him more and feel more protective of him. Nothing you can ever say will make his fans stop loving him. NOTHING. We will outlast every evil thing you can make up about him.


jan   September 14th, 2009 5:24 pm ET

To protest about diane dimond email:

et.newsdesk@cbsparamount.com


Brigida, Italy   September 14th, 2009 5:25 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis, I agree with you in some points. I don't believe that Micheal took all this "drugs" media had ascribed on him. And I'm also sure he tried to take just the ones that could make him feel better.

Mariau, Michael had his "masks" very often, also walking with his kids. Perhaps it is true he wants to cover the signs of lupus or save himself from sun. It could be that media sometimes take a double for weird pictures if they didn't have enough to write... but I don't believe that it was so often.

Mary U from Ohio (The only addicts i see is the Media)
well said! ^__^

Samantha – South Africa
thank you for your letter to Oprah.

I'm so glad that I am not able to see all this junk-TV you spoke about and I promise to not click on their videos on home-pages... if you tell the details here on the blogs, so we know what's going on there 😉

Failing the last days to come here, what's about the MJCSI?


Brigida, Italy   September 14th, 2009 5:27 pm ET

Forgot... I saw the Jermaine-video. It's very harsh but it has some true point in it. Even if we should pay respect to the whole family, this man – I can't help – gives me bad feelings :/


jan   September 14th, 2009 5:27 pm ET

I think Oprah needs to come forth with an apology on her show. Madonna has set the scene for others to follow to show some bottle and apologise.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

I would be shocked if Oprah had any compassion at all for MJ. She is just doing the show because people have criticized her for not saying she is sorry he is dead. I do not see her as being compassionate only self promotional.


SuzieCanada   September 14th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

wow I'm speachless! I just watched that video about Jermaine's bogus charity that Samantha posted earlier!! Whoever made that video truly loves MJ – as much as I do (I know he loves us more!). Unfortunately, the video has a lot of truth to it. Isn't it ironic that it is the FANS asking the FAMILY to please let us mourn Michael? ....


angelwings   September 14th, 2009 6:06 pm ET

hi everyone


sherry   September 14th, 2009 6:07 pm ET

OMG!~~~~~~~~~ what can I say this is getting depressing allthses people talklin crap all the time

I WISH THEY WOULD ARREST THESEPEOPLETHAT WERE INVOLVED


sherry   September 14th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

I have to g make dinner I may be back but todays a tought day,. not wanting to bawl all over again


Lora Ottawa Canada   September 14th, 2009 6:18 pm ET

Is anyone from British columbia on here?

I will be in BC on Wednesday and wanted to know when Oprah's show is on the Shaw cable network.


angelwings   September 14th, 2009 6:22 pm ET

Please leave him alone


tom.london   September 14th, 2009 6:51 pm ET

It seems that most of you commentors try hard to find excuses for Michaels drug taking.Face It,he was a drug addict,there is no difference between Perscription drugs and street drugs except here in the UK perscriptions are free and unless your doctor is caring,you can repeat your perscription for years.A doctors job is to heal but i am sure if any of Michaels doctors told him he needs big help,he would have fired them.It is very sad but it is a fact. There are tens of thousands of mainly women on anti depressant and sleeping tablets, they could not function without them ,it is a circle that is hard to break.Those who do get over their problem is mainly due to the rest of the family ganging up and doing what was required.I know through painful experience.Nobody has ever said what help Michaels family gave to help him with his problem.Thats my sermon for tonight 11;45pm london


Judie   September 14th, 2009 7:11 pm ET

MourningMJ,

Who are you? Are you a fan,friend, relative?

You sound like you know more than you are telling.

I've noticed you on here before & read your comment. I almost thought you were Jermaine.

Please tell us more......


maryg   September 14th, 2009 7:29 pm ET

Angel wings: are you back?????

So michael was an addict and we are all delusional fans? I guess the fact that the coroner's office proclaimed mj' death a homocide (death by another) has no bearing on any of this? The fact that we question what is out there, and the intentions of those that spread "information" about him, also makes us beloved, committed, long time fans too.


evelyn jose   September 14th, 2009 7:59 pm ET

DEEPAK CHOPRA SHOULD BE SUED BY THE JACKSON FAMILY FOR SAYING THAT MICHAEL WAS ANY KIND OF ADDICT IT IS A FACT THAT THE ONLY LETHOL DOSE OF MEDICATIONS IN MICHAEL JACKSON WAS THE ONES MURRAY INJECTED IN HIM THAT CAUSED HIS DEATH IF MICHAEL JACKSON WAS AN ADDICT AS HIS DOCTORS CLAIMED HIS SYSTEM WOULD HAVE BEEN LOADED DOWN HE WAS MURDER

DEEPAK CHOPRA REGARDLESS OF YOUR YEARS KNOWING OF MICHAEL JACKSON YOU DID NOT HIM AS AN ADDICT YOU ARE A LIER YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO GET SOME TV TIME
YOU DID NOT RESPECT HIM AS A FRIEND YOU DO NOT RESPECT HIM AS A HUMAN BEING WHY WOULD YOU SIT THERE DOING INTERVIEWS KNOWING HIS MOTHER IS LISTENING TO YOUR WORDS SHAME ON YOU.


angelwings   September 14th, 2009 8:00 pm ET

iam backkkkkkkkkkkkk


Barbara   September 14th, 2009 8:02 pm ET

Hi everyone!


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 8:07 pm ET

To "Karen"

My previous commentary or "conjecture" as you refer it to, is years of keeping up with facts, not gossip. I could be far less interested in his the gossip surronding MJ. However, KAREN, his lyrics were his mouthpiece. You, however, have fallen fool to just the mere basic legal mumbo jumbo that ABC, CNN and other "reputable media" has shoved down your throat. Of course it was homicide- who is disputing that? And who was defending Murray? NOT me- Please reread my commentary again. I have read every single piece of ligitimate information on Michael confirmed by various sources. For all of you "MJ FANS" we are expected to accept Michael unconditionally- that includes his addiction. YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH KAREN. Next time you won't look so foolish when you have 2 minutes worth of information the next time you jump on the MJ bandwagon.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 8:13 pm ET

MourningMJ
I think you may have an addict in your family because you seem to be projecting your own personal experience.

If any of what you said was true, than every person in his family and all of his MDs who supported his addiction and all his friends who knew about this are responsible for his death.

Show us objective proof of what you say. Song lyrics are not proof. The only real proof is toxicology reports.

You sound extremely hostile. If you want to call people names go blog on tmz.
BTW, you cannot even spell legitimate properly and this blog provides spell check.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 8:16 pm ET

Thank you Anne weel said


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 8:17 pm ET

TO JUDIE:
I am not a close family friend of the Jackson Family and I am certainly NOT Jermaine! Yikes. However, I have been a beloved MJ fan since the age of 7 and have followed him dearly and unconditionally for the past 27 years. When I research my information, I seek out several sources, not just one. Additionally, I avoid gossip that says "a close family friend" or "someone close to Jackson" that is usually code for "Michael screwed me over so I have an axe to grind". I've listened and read from individuals, with names, who have been or are close to MJ who have been committed to him for a signifiant period of time. Alot of MJ"s lifestory comes from MJ himself: Listen to all of the lyrics to all of his songs. Google his poetry. Read his depostions online. Youtube MJ interviews; LOADS of information. Youtube phonecalls. Utilize strong search engine words such as "Jackson Family Intervention" "Michael Jackson's friends quote addiction" These engines will serve sufficient articles and video clips attached with credible sources and names. ALSO, read J. Randy Tarraborelli's "The magic, the madness, the whole story", JRT was a very good friend of Michael's and a very good credible source. Michael read his book and although he was not pleased with everything he wrote (who is pleased with the truth of their own life story?), Michael gave JRT his blessing for the book. Anythink you see posted from my blog is valid. I refuse to take back anything I said- I love Michael endlessly and hopelessly- but he was an addict and nothing short of it. He screamed out in pain- not only aloud but silently too. It seems as though his screams fell on deaf ears to everyone around him.... IHMJ xo


Judie   September 14th, 2009 8:21 pm ET

We have spell check? Where I need it bad.......


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 8:22 pm ET

I wonder who mourning MJ is? are you a friend of his or are you a relative. Also TJ who is this? Is this Taj? Jermaine's son? and where is the informer?


Barbara   September 14th, 2009 8:22 pm ET

Maybe the Informer will return tonight....


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 8:25 pm ET

"ANNE"
I sincerely apologize if you were offended that I misspelled a word, My sincerest apologies. It looks like your friend, Patty Anderson, has a spelling problem, too.

But, to clear up on misunderstandings, I have no addicts in my family. I work with them from 10 hours a day in a methadone clinic- if you are not familar with what methadone is, I'll let you do the research. Clearly, you seem very ignorant in the subject of addiction so I will give you a little information that may assist you before you are another one who will only submit to the "media's outlet of MJ legal info". Explain MJ's arms riddled with needle marks, explain 26 prescription medication with 18 different aliases on them, explain his constant need to wear his sunglasses- when was the last time we even saw MJ's eyes before 2005? Explain the agreement he had with his family to bring a "sober coach" with him to London because his family was afraid to let them out of his sight (do the research it is true), explain his ability to consume benzodiazepines the strength of six adult men to ingest and react, however, never even batted an eye? You do the math. I'll do the spellcheck.


Judie   September 14th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

MourningMJ,

How do you know your sources, articles etc. are the truth? Were you there yourself, did you see it.
I for one do not beleive anything I read and only half of what I see.

Just asking.......


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 8:28 pm ET

Hi Miraim:

JRT stands for J. Randy Taraborelli- He is the author of Michael Jackson's autobiography "The magic, the madness, the whole story". MJ gave JRT his blessings for the autobiography- you really want to know what MJ was all about? That's 750 pages you can't put down. Yes, it talks about the drug use too-


Mara   September 14th, 2009 8:31 pm ET

Hi guys – angelewings welcome back!


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 8:31 pm ET

Judie-
You make an excellent point, and I absolutely could not agree more. I don't know if they are the truth, Judie- I can only measure the validity by the credibility of the source. No, I wasn't there. But I have never been to Neptune either but I'm sure it exists.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 8:32 pm ET

"ALSO, read J. Randy Tarraborelli’s “The magic, the madness, the whole story”, JRT was a very good friend of Michael’s and a very good credible source."

This is false. MJ knew him a little as a teenager and gave him a couple of very early interviews. His original book was published in 1991. That is 18 years ago. He did some updates after trial and MJ's death but he did not have any contact with MJ for those updates. I just read and enjoyed the book but after the 1991 issue felt it was historical fiction.

According to Amazon, he is a friend of Diane Dimond.


Mara   September 14th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

I don't like Chopra or his son and I don't like the things they say about Michael.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

MourningMJ
You sound like you are very hostile and have a big ax to grind. I feel sorry for your patients since you have such a terrible attitude toward them. Maybe it is time for you to change your line of work.

MJ always wore sunglasses. How old are you? He wore them at the White House with Reagan. He wore them for We are the World. He did it because he was so shy not because of opiates.

There is no proof he had needle tracks either.

I hope to God you never get on jury duty! You would convict him based on poety.

BTW I am a 54 year old RN who has taken care of plenty of addicts in my time.


Mariam   September 14th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

mourningmj I want to read a good book about MJ what is the best book written about michael that won't taint his personality. I heard unmasked and other books are not so good to read.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 8:36 pm ET

*poetry


SuzieCanada   September 14th, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Anne, I agree about JRT. He is a snake and a stinky vulture. He is a friend of DD. They both badmouthed Michael in the so-called documentary "Michael Jackson: what really happened". The most disgusting piece of crap I've ever seen.


Anne   September 14th, 2009 8:38 pm ET

Patrick Swayze died


sherry   September 14th, 2009 8:39 pm ET

Hey everyone,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


SuzieCanada   September 14th, 2009 8:39 pm ET

sorry to hear that!


Judie   September 14th, 2009 8:40 pm ET

RIP Patrick Swayze


sherry   September 14th, 2009 8:45 pm ET

even seeing a picture of Michael is really hard


SuzieCanada   September 14th, 2009 8:45 pm ET

It's seems this year we're losing one celebrity after another. There's been too many lately. Depressing.


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 8:47 pm ET

Sure does Suzie


sherry   September 14th, 2009 8:47 pm ET

i cant do this tonight, i gotta go, to upset


Judie   September 14th, 2009 8:48 pm ET

Hi Patty


Patty Anderson   September 14th, 2009 8:49 pm ET

Hi Judie how are you


Judie   September 14th, 2009 8:51 pm ET

I'm good how are you doing...... Love Madonna & Janet last night.

Mara are you still on?


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 8:58 pm ET

Hi Angelwings 🙂

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Mara   September 14th, 2009 9:01 pm ET

Hi Judie

I was just jumping from blog to blog. I see angelwings is back. Oh yeah and Madonna's speech was cool made me tear up and I LOVED Janet's performance. The girl is tough.


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Mariam
You need to read Michael's autobiography-Please get in when it becomes avaiable in October. JRT is a snake-He has not been part of Michael Jackson's inner circle for years. He said himself on a show that he had not been close to MJ for a number of years.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Anne-
Please, No need to feel sorry for me or my patients. I am not an enabler nor do I feel sorry for my patients who continuously allow themselves to perpetuate in their own misery, however, I do feel sorry for your patients (as you being an "RN" and all) and you clearly are blind that you cannot obviously see the signs of addiction? (Anne, I really do admire nurses, it is a very difficult field and they are way overworked and underpaid so I admire you for your line of work). Anne, I'm not interested in arguing back and forth, as I'm sure your not interested either, so we should just respect each other's opinions. There was proof of addiction all over the place, including the needle marks. Yes, I was very aware that MJ has worn sunglasses since the early 80's as well, however, when he began his public appearances since his 2004 molestation trial, you have never seen him without them- he didn't want anyone looking into his eyes. An idea that we can intepret individually. Additionally, I see you had no comment to add regarding the prescription medicaion and the aliases- another documented fact. Just asking- did you read the search warrants? You know they are available online if you google them; in the search warrants it clearly states that Conrad Murray was under investigation due to "prescribing to an addict; and over prescribing to addict". Only and M.D. and other credentialized professionals can diagnose one as an addict postmortem (but you know this cause you are an RN). Therefore, his toxicology reports are indicative of addictive behavior. Anne, I LOVE MJ- I do. I'm just saying it like it is. He suffered, Anne. Bad. That would never minimize his talent or his love for life. I know you are an MJ fan too, like the rest of us. It's hard to swallow that he really did these horrible things to himself. I still can't believe it. God Bless you, and your line of work- I totally respect nurses and I'm sure you are a great one! Anyone would be lucky to have you because I can sure see that your compasion is endless. Take care...
IHMJ xoxo


simba   September 14th, 2009 9:15 pm ET

MourningMJ – you may be a fan. But you write about MJ in a sensationalistic manner that causes one to doubt your motives. Deepak, is that you?

"the track marks, the nodding off, the perpetual screams of pain from withdrawal in the middle of the night, his suffering, his denial, his manipulation, his avoidance of his family, his poor decisions, his desperate decisions, his loneliness, his lying, his disappearing acts, his broken promises, his tears, his depression, his self-hatred, his empty Rx. medication bottles, his sleepless nights, his hiding, his anger, his low self-esteem, his emptiness- his desperation. " – I mean really, don't you find this a little over the top? NOBODY'S life is that desperate! Nobody who is also Michael Jackson, the greatest performer of our time.

MJ had an array of "spiritual advisors". Where's the proof that Deepak Chopra was anything more than a passing acquaintance? All we see is that one picture from years ago, with Chopra and that cheese-eating grin. I think he exaggerates his place in MJ's life.

BTW, the New York Times online (Media and Advertising) has an article about Oprah losing ratings because she backed Obama. They're asking for comments. I put in my two cents about how she treated MJ. Oprah's staff may ignore this blog, but they won't ignore the NY Times. Please go over and post your thoughts.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

J. Randy Taraborelli and MJ were friends- he was the ONLY Friend at MJ's trial (2004)- besides his family. JRT IS a journalist and therefore, crossing paths with Diane Dimond (she is a HORRIBLE person) is inevitable. Diane and JRT go way deeper than MJ though for those of you who may not know their journlism history together, however, MJ was something they did have in common. JRT was on E! in about 2006 and defended MJ tooth and nail. He did NOT agree with Dimond and her speculations at all. JRT was always a MJ supporter, perhaps not in the way that we all support him, but he was always available to MJ and JRT told this to MJ. MJ sunk into a hopeless depression after the 2004 trial and JRT and MJ have NOT spoken since that time, this is true. BUT JRT did try to reach out, but MJ didn't reach back. The book was written in 1991, but updated since that time (otherwise, we wouldn't have been able to read about prince, paris and blanket correct? They didn't even come into the picture until 1997)- Several chapters were added since 1991 and is updated as late as his death. It's JRT's constitutional right to choose whomever he wants to share a friendship with including Diane Dimond- that did not minimze his frienship with MJ. And yes, they were "good friends" not just "a little as a teenager" or otherwise. Again, please get information from credible sources like JRT himself.
Take care..
IHMJ xoxo


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

mourning MJ

I didn't realize this was the Lets Bash Michael Jackson Blog

BtW–When you MJ's home movies, I don't see him wearing sunglasses–and I agree with Ann-he always wore sunglasses–did you hear what Madonna said last night-Michael had his sunglassesa and it was nightime. He always wore sunglasses in public. I have been a fan of Michael's for 39 years and I have to tell you that you are way off.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Simba-

Well, the good thing is, is that we can agree to disagree. Again, I LOVE MJ endlessly, but the things I mentioned in my post are a very true part of addiction and was a very true part of Michael. Was it a little over the top? I wouldn't know. I have no idea how to measure the pain of one's addiction or what to measure it against. I cannot answer on behalf on Depak's commentary; again I can only measure his credibility and MJ only spoke very highly of him. The idea behind the post is to simply make MJ fans aware that we have to accept ALL of him, not just the parts that brought us joy such as his amazing talent and earth moving personality. There was a dark side to MJ- he suffered, Simba. I dont' have to understand why alot of MJ fans won't accept it, just as long as it's understood. Take care and thank you for your commentary.


sherry   September 14th, 2009 9:30 pm ET

thought i'd try again,,,,,,,,just hard


simba   September 14th, 2009 9:31 pm ET

MourningMJ – since you know so much about MJ's life, surely you are aware that he suffered from lupus and vitiligo, both of which made him very sensitive to sunlight. Hence the umbrellas, and the sunglasses you are so fixated on.

You work with methadone addicts, so you think everybody shares their issues. MJ had serious medical conditions that required medication, sometimes a lot of medication. He was a patient, not a criminal. He was no more a drug addict than an insulin-dependent diabetic is a drug addict.


SuzieCanada   September 14th, 2009 9:32 pm ET

MourningMJ, I know you"re a know-it-all type of person, but please go watch "Michael Jackson: what really happened" and tell me after that Mr. Torborelli is a "friend' of MJ. He is a disgusting repulsive back-stabber so please get YOUR facts straight before you tell others to do so.


sherry   September 14th, 2009 9:33 pm ET

MourningMJ ,,,,,,,,,,,,
I work in a C.C.U. unit I see people in the middle of d.t.s all the time, ect,,,,, you need to go somewhere else topreach baby


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Lindafromnewyork-

Are you talking about "MJ's home movies from the 1990's?" Oh my god, Linda, where have you been? With Macualy Caulkin? I was speaking of AFTER 2005 Linda (Please read more carefully). Move along- forget the sunglasses, obviously you are missing my point. I am NOT "bashing MJ" at all. I'm saying it like it is. If you can identify ONE sentence where I personally insulted him, then I will apologize. BUT I didn't. I LOVE MJ endlessly, like I said in my last post, we have to accept EVERYTHING of Michael- including what led up to his death. That's ALL that was I suggesting. I would NEVER bash MJ- I'm on HIS side- I think it's absolutely terrible what happened and I am still devestated as much today, 9/14/09 as I was on 6/15/09- have you read my screen name? I've been reading your posts all day too- from earlier. You do have some good commentary I would like to add. You sound like a dedicated MJ fan too, and I know you miss him deeply, Linda. It's really hard for all of us. Tkae care. IHMJ xoxo


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:36 pm ET

** I MEANT 6/25/09 ** SORRY


maryg   September 14th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

MourningMj:

I think you need a pill.....LOL. You appear very disturbed by how some fans choose to see mj. A little toooo much in my opinion. I personally, am in mourning over his loss and I want to see the "proof' from a court room and not necessarily from google or JRT.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Sherry-
I'm not "preaching baby". Really, I'm not. I totally respect your line of work, I cannot even begin to imagine what you witness every day. You should be proud of the work you do- I'm confident you make a significant change in people's lives. My commentary is just like anyone elses- just a feeling. I would never dispute anyone's "feelings" about MJ, wouldn't that be a little ridiculous? I hope you do well and prosper in your field, it takes a special kind of person to do so.


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Luda–

I am giving Mr. Joseph the benefit of the doubt here. Just because some trash reporter wanna be says something doesn't make it so. The Jackson's are an easy target. The media will go after Michael and they will also go after his family members.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Sherry, I am so sorry about your Viteligo. I really am. I know someone too who suffers from this and I know it can be extremely painful. My thoughts are with you. I hope, as we all are fans of MJ, NOT to pass judgement on one- you sound like a good person, Sherry. God Bless you.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Mary- I laughed at your comment (about the pill)! You are absolutely right, no need to get opinions or deliberate our conclusions in blogs or the media; the truth will come out and when it does, us MJ fans will support the evidence- NO matter what. IHMJ xoxo.


sherry   September 14th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

MourningMJ
Im nbot trying to bash you either ...........take care


Judie   September 14th, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Mara are u on


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 10:02 pm ET

To Everyone:
I'm so very sorry that I offended anyone with my commentary; I can only offer that it was NEVER my intention to do so. I LOVE Michael Jackson, I love his legacy, I love him as a human being and I dearly and deeply miss him as all of you do as well. All of you have many deep personal feelings attached to your history with MJ as do I. I respect all of you, your professions as you mentioned and your struggles- who doesn't have them right? I hope that we continue, as beloved MJ fans, to focus on the message of his music- to unconditionally love one another, and of course, yourself. Again, my sincerest apologies to anyone and everyone I have offended. NOT my intention and now I have learned that some things are better left unsaid. Take care and God Bless all of you- may you all be safe and live another prosperous day. IHMJ xoxo


simba   September 14th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

"The idea behind the post is to simply make MJ fans aware that we have to accept ALL of him, not just the parts that brought us joy such as his amazing talent and earth moving personality. "

MourningMJ – that's where you and I have to agree to disagree. As fans, music consumers, audience members, the only thing we are entitled to is a performance. We don't have to accept ALL of him, because we don't have the RIGHT to ALL of him.

MJ had the absolute right to show us only as much of himself as he wanted us to see, nothing more. We loved him so much, we thought we knew him. But love for MJ doesn't give us, or the Chopras of the world, the right to examine every single aspect of his life, or to eviscerate his soul.


MourningMJ   September 14th, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Simba-
You are right. I'm sorry. I sincerely am. You did shed some light on this for me; I guess I'm selfish because I miss him so much, I wanted all of him. I just have this impending dooming feeling that his life went much deeper and ran more painful than what we saw on stage. Thank you for pointing that out- I guess when you desperately miss someone, so unexepectedly, you tend to hang on to everything that person had. Take care..


Mara   September 14th, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Judie

We're in Rhonda's


Raychil   September 14th, 2009 10:40 pm ET

Luda,

Joe's date is his granddaughter Genevieve, Randy's daughter.

I laughed so hard when some no=name tabloid called her his date. I mean, seriously why can't the media get anything right?. Trashing Randy's daughter is just ridiculous on their part.


sarah   September 14th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Hi everyone ….

i was watching that THIS IS IT preview, in the beginning where it says: “BUT THERE WAS STILL ONE DREAM HE WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE” , are they talking about dream of the concerts OR dream of rehearsals that end up in the MOVIE ….

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN!!PEACE!!!!


Sandy-Houston   September 14th, 2009 10:53 pm ET

I think there are some valid points made by all us. We can agree to disagree and still be fans of Michael's. Who really knew Michael? He had many different ways of showing himself to his fans,family and friends. And there will be more to be revealed when the investigation is completed(whenever that may be).
Mariam,2:5pm and Mourning MJ – you both make some valid points.

Michael's death is still so unreal for us all and we all have such strong feelings. I think it will difficult to hear the details of the investigation,trial, etc as it comes out. I miss him and don't know if I'm ready to see the movie in Oct


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

@Sandy -Houston - I don't know if I will be able to watch the movie either...I can't watch the trailer without crying...

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Bella   September 14th, 2009 11:04 pm ET

Addict or not Addict, What about the INVESTIGATION???


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 11:05 pm ET

@Raychil–I sure hope Randy Jackson goes after that tabloid – it wasn't just wrong - it was mean, nasty, and lies. Hope Randy sues them.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Diane–I watched those clips
And Michael doesn't look to me like he is under the influence of anything-when you are on a witness stantdthey ask you you to speak slowly so that the stenographer can catch every word-He looks in one of the clips like he was feeling the music and he closed his eyes-these people will not stop-when have you ever know Michael Jackson to rush through with what he is saying-he always took his time-Again these people will not stop


lindafromnewyork   September 14th, 2009 11:15 pm ET

mourning MJ
I was referring to the home movies with his children-


simba   September 14th, 2009 11:42 pm ET

Diane in Minneapolis – I took a look at the court reporter's website. In essence, she is selling MJ's deposition as a performance. I doubt that she has the right to do this – she would need the permission of MJ's estate. She says that she has the copyright. Well she doesn't own the copyright to any of MJ's music. The only thing she has rights to – maybe – is her hard copy transcript, produced by her own hand. Calling Branca and McClain!


Barbara   September 14th, 2009 11:42 pm ET

Okay Larry, next blog.


Lori - Justice For Michael   September 14th, 2009 11:51 pm ET

@Simba –good question. I do not think that the court reporter should own the copyright to the deposition transcripts, since it is sworn testimony. I wonder if it becomes the property of the attorneys or if it remains the property of the deponent. Hopefully someone knows the answers to that.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 8:45 am ET

There seems to be a problem with the link above.

The wretched Life of the Insomniac, New York Times, 2008,
should work.
(By Gayle Greene).


Jacquelyn   September 15th, 2009 9:27 am ET

I am looking at the trailer again and something seems a little off to me. Yes it look like its going to be a good film but thats just it. It looks like everything was done just so this film could be made and nothing more. Maybe it's just me. And that two week only time period for the movie to be shown all over the world is different as well.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 9:57 am ET

Mourning mj – if you don’t know Michael and I don’t know him too, then what’s the meaning of calling ourselves as Michael Jackson fans?
who knows Michael very well, the critics, Media, morons, tabloids and all those people claiming themselves friends of Mj???
First of all I’m not on denial here, as a matter of fact, I believe Michael that he was a great human being, an extra ordinary gentleman, calm, sweet and well behave celebrity person.. with kindness and generosity in his heart.
With his song lyrics and music, we’ve been told who was Michael.. he sung his emotions outloud..
To reach him and know him, he told us his story of his life by listening to all his very touching lyrics and words of his own… I’ve heard Michael telling everyone of us that just listen to my music and you will understand and know me.. don’t believe in tabloids… we’ve told million times that he had few friends that he trusted most his mother , brothers, sisters and Elizabeth taylor…
and those words is enough….. Did Michael mention Deepak Chopra?????
who was Michael Jackson??? It’s up to you to decide.. whether you’re not a fan or you’re a fan..
Michael said… I won’t do horrible things to put myself in vulnerable situation…
And please remember this - Michael had tragic accident that burned his scalp, lupus, and insomnia.. his taking his medication for his ailment..
It seems to me, that all those drugs he took for treating his ailments, should no one will ever called him an addict… they don’t have the right to call him that way, why chopra calling him as controlled addict,
while Chopra was never been with Michael for a decade????????
Again I will shout my voice… telling that Michael Jackson was not an addict…


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 10:13 am ET

LINDA-
The Home videos you are speaking of are pre-2004. There are NO private home videos with MJ's children released after 2005- Again, please read my post carefully. My references were all to AFTER 2005- NOT before.


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 10:24 am ET

What led up to his death were the 'money-people'.
You are one of them? You centaintly aren't an honest person, a bit theatrical and plastic bah....


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 10:38 am ET

Mariau-

I'm not quite sure I get your point, if there is one. I'm not required to know MJ personally, nor are you or anyone else for that matter, to become a fan of his talent. Who is disputing the fact that MJ was an incredible human being with stellar talent and an bottomless heart of genorosity? I'm not. Who is disputing his list of medical issues and injuries? I'm not. I'm simply telling you that our beloved MJ was not exempt from addiction just because he was MJ- he was human, he was vulnerable and he was abandoned by many people whom he trusted his heart and soul with. Frankly, I could care less what anyone thinks about MJ's alleged addiction; it's irrelevant at this time. Many fans speak out and say "we will wait until the investigation and full toxicology report is released"- what does that mean? If his tox reports reflect opiate use- he was an addict- and if it doesn't then he wasn't. Or if the LAPD find sufficient evidence to arrest the suspects in question, then maybe that will change your opinion to? Look we are all dedicated fans of our beloved MJ- I'm not disputing it. But really, the CORONER HIMSELF, released a statement of the drugs found in MJ's system- enough to sufficiently sedate 4-6 adult men. MJ didn't even respond to any of the benzos until the propofol was administered- this is coming from the CORONER's report (which is available online)- NOT some ridiculous tabloid. An addict builds tolerance to these drugs- because they can't simply get enough or they need more to achieve the same desired affect. I'm not pulling this evidence out of the air- it's a simple medical fact. It's horrible the pressures MJ was placed under by his family, the fans and himself- how could he have possibly been greater? He was the greatest human talent already on this Earth. I love MJ unconditionally; struggles and all. There will be no other one like him. At least not in our lifetime. IHMJ xoxo


mariau   September 15th, 2009 10:44 am ET

mourning MJ – Michael's death was homicide.... do you really think chopra has the right to call Michael a controlled addict????


mariau   September 15th, 2009 10:50 am ET

Look everything Mj's done they never give him any credit while he was alive.. what more on his death??
this was just now.. it's been 20 years of his life, Michael was suffered emotionally because of this rumors and junk tabloids..
considering the fact that his death wasn't natural death... it's Homicide.
i should suggest to Chopra the next time he speaks about MJ, he shouldn't address himself as a good friend of MJ..
not nice...


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 11:50 am ET

Mariau-

A "controlled addict' the term that Chopra used, is just a nicer way of saying it. Chopra was indeed, a good friend of Michael- we are in no position to measure the quality or genuineness of their friendship. There is enough phyiscal evidence to conclude they were freinds- mamy pictures, many interviews, etc. I am in absolutely no position to question the validity of their relationship. My personal interpretation is that it was very genuine- Chopra stated many times that inteventions were planned for MJ, but MJ would disappear. This is NOT tabloid info- if you go to GMA and the today show clips and even here on CNN with LKL, Chopra clearly stated it. Was it true- these alleged interventions? If I was forced to answer the question, I would say yes. If another MJ fan stated that Chopra was full of it; I would support them as well. These are my feelings and I am not negotiating them. As no one else should negotiate their feelings regarding MJ's case either. Chopra did state this on the Daily Beast right after MJ passed away (This is Chopra's words, not an interpretation of a journalist) "Michael's family was planning an intervention for him to confront him on his alleged drug abuse a week after a family party that was held for his parents in May. Two psychiatrists were to be present to involuntarily admit Michael into drug rehabilitation and mental health treatment as the family felt that his alleged drug use was placing him at harm to himself." Now, I'm not sure where Depak received this info. from- I know he stated before he was close to some of MJ's siblings? Anyway, Depak goes on to say that Michael was informed of the intervention and clearly denied any problem and absolutely refused to be anywhere near his family until London as he was not going to allow an intervention interfere with his preperations for London 02. It goes on to say that MJ agreed to a sober coach to bring with him to London to monitor any illicit drug use. Does this allegation make sense? Well, I can't so for sure that it doesn't make sense, but I'm not sure of the details and validity. Perhaps if a family member came forth and validated Depak's statements, then I could allow for some more credibility; but again, it's only one source. I do believe it was homicide; absolutely, no question in my mind (and for most of us, no question in our mind either). MJ was a victim, not a criminal. IHMJ xoxo


Anne   September 15th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Jacquelyn,
I have a vague recollection of someone saying MJ wanted the show to be a film and not have to actually do all those performances live or something like that. It makes sense in a way because he seemed very interested in film making in the later years, and it would certainly have been easier for him to do it just once as a movie.


Maria   September 15th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

maryg September 14th, 2009 1:31 pm ET
Now, he is calling it by another name: “controlled addict”. He is putting it out there…Do we even know what that means? Does the public? What do you think they will think when they hear that?
==========
Then what "they" will think if the LAPD investigation leads to the prosecution of several Dr Feelgoods? Will we claim the cops only try to tarnish MJ's reputation if they find the doctors guilty of prescribing to an addict? Will we "protect" MJ (in fact protect THE DOCTORS) by claiming there is nothing abnormal to take propofol and such high doses of benzos to sleep?

And wouldn't the family and friends make fools out of themselves if they say they didn't know anything and didn't see anything at all? LaToya said clearly: “I blame any and everybody who was instrumental in Michael’s life providing him with drugs because it was wrong. It was terribly wrong. They’re doctors! This is going against their license, Barbara. You don’t do things like that.” Now are we going to say she is trying to tarnish MJ's reputation?

Yes, people are quick to mistake prescription drugs abuse for illegal drugs use, because this confusion allows them to make fun and to despise what they don't want to understand. But the definition of "addict" is the same for both kinds of drugs. And the effects are equally bad.

Addict = "somebody dependent on a drug: somebody who is physiologically or mentally dependent on a drug liable to have a damaging physiological or psychological effect"
Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 12:46 pm ET

MourningMJ,

Murray administered in period of time of 6 hours a dose of different sedatives that would you and I send to sleep for a week. MJ really built tolerance to Lorazepam and some of the other stuff. This can only mean he took it on a regular base.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I think it is good you touch the subject that you do. As long as it is with respect. I really think we should build up more resistance for ourself because we might be ahead of more unpleasant details. I am trying to get rid og my vulnerability because I know i will be hurt by some things I will probably be hurt in the near future as more revelations will appear, from which a great deal probably will be true.


simba   September 15th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

"the CORONER HIMSELF, released a statement of the drugs found in MJ’s system- enough to sufficiently sedate 4-6 adult men. MJ didn’t even respond to any of the benzos until the propofol was administered- this is coming from the CORONER’s report (which is available online)- NOT some ridiculous tabloid. "

MourningMJ – The coroner can only attest to the drugs found in MJ's system. We have only the word of the suspect, Dr. Murray, that MJ "didn't respond". Dr. Murray also claims that MJ threatened him, a contention that everyone who knew MJ says is preposterous.

It is possible that MJ was over-sedated AND given a lethal dose of propofol, to make sure that he never woke up. We know it's homicide. The jury will determine if it's murder.

"Chopra was indeed, a good friend of Michael- we are in no position to measure the quality or genuineness of their friendship. There is enough phyiscal evidence to conclude they were freinds- mamy pictures, many interviews, etc."

I've only seen one picture of Chopra with MJ. Please let me know where the many pictures and interviews of which you write can be found. I don't believe Chopra was close to MJ at all.

Maria "Addict = “somebody dependent on a drug:"

So diabetics, cancer patients, and people on dialysis are all drug addicts, and therefore to be considered less than? People dependent on drugs for medical conditions, as MJ was, are patients, not criminals.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

** To ELI and MARIA **

I am so relieved to know that there are other beloved MJ fans that can see his pain deeper than others- The unexpected death of MJ have left us committed MJ fans paralyzed and consumed with more questions than answers. Chopra did not explain himself very well when he labeled MJ a "controlled addcit" although, I'm sure that his incinuations were implied- he was taking controlled substances and many addicts do not interpret addiction when measuring them with prescription medication- typically just street drugs. "As long as my doctor gave it to me, I'm okay". Well, the unfortunate reality is, it goes much deeper than that, and EVERY doctor caring for MJ failed him- miserably. They continued to feed him whatever he (MJ) asked for without realizing they (the doctors) were contributing to more pain and suffering than relief. It's a very manipulative disease and poor MJ had no idea what in the world he was suffering from- but everyone else around him did. I'm not even sure if there is a tool to measure a "controlled" addict, but at some point those "controlled" addicts, sure become "out of control". Our poor MJ graduated to surgical drugs at a vain attempt for some rest and relief and again, he placed his trust and vulnerability into the hands of jealous fools. May justice prevail for our beloved MJ. IHMJ xoxo


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I agree with you. Lisa S said something about it to on the Madonna blog, something like we fail him again if we ignore the problem.

I am so sad this all ended this way. I have a sense he was really on the way back, but this tour messed up everything, it was too much and too soon. It is my guess he got pressered by it, no wonder.


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

@ simba - I so agree with you, I am also addicted, have to take medicine for the rest of my life and the dose will also rise over the years...addicted to heart medicine.....
Is it so hard to understand that Insomnia is an illness and not something you have for fun? Is it so hard to understand that depressions also a serious illness?
Not the drug addiction is making this illness, the illness and doctors with wrong advices making the drug addiction.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

SIMBA – i absolutely agree with you..
Tina (Germany) – well said..


mariau   September 15th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

DEAREST BLOGGERS,

This is related to Gene’s comment, as you know not all of us were good in English, and somehow it’s difficult to us to deliver or express our feelings because English is not our mother tongue.
We are all here because of Michael Jackson, most of us were totally different in many ways, our opinion and differences were completely different. But I want to remind you that to blog here is to share my thoughts and your thoughts. We could ask question, ask assistance to know some facts. We can agree and disagree but at least in the best manners that we don’t need to offend anyone here.
Unfortunately some of us are too sensitive, so I just hope we should watch our words.
Blogging here it isn’t because you are smart or wise to anyone here, we are completely individuals with different perception and analysis.. if you’re think you’re right or not.. This blogs is not about because of your occupation, age, profession or status in life or because how smart you are.. … this is about Michael Jackson. I know that we gathered here every day because it’s really hard to believe that Michael was gone and no longer with us. I used to come here every day because I want to know if MJ could seek justice. We are all hurt that until now they don’t stop bashing him…
I know I couldn’t do anything about this, but as I believe typing my voice just maybe, maybe they could hear me. Even though my English wasn’t good enough to understands. I’m totally upset about what had happened to Gene.. My intentions to blog here is to share my thoughts and no one should feel hurt…
I love Michael Jackson because he made my childhood complete and he inspired me in so many ways..
Michael deserves honor and respect..


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

And I still think "drug addiction" is the wrong term here. It sounds like a junkie using street drugs and having party all nite totaly stoned.
That is what makes people angry. We know he had a problem, I knew this already 1993, it was nothing new. Still there is a big difference between medication and cocain. Illness and just feeling high. Having nitemares or want to have a party all nite. A HUGE difference.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

What happened to Gene, nothing bad I hope.

Tina, drugs can cause insomnia. If you keep on taking sleep medication for years and in a large dose you will stay or become insomnic. You first have to get off it, you fall into a black whole and then you can started building a normal sleeping pattern. This could have happened to Michael. Of the medication he took it is known they not only make you addicted but can give a reverse effedt in the long run. Doctors should have told him and act accordingly.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

hi Tina – you're right and addict is the wrong term here.. using drugs for ailment is different than junkie addict using cocaine and stay awake all day and night... it's different drugs getting the sense of Euphoria.. Huge different


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

Eli – it was known that he had lupus and that can cause Insomnia also. However it is doctors responsibility to control it when they know the patient has problems.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

**SIMBA**

In terms of interviews and photos, you can do the research yourself through google, just as I have- just use the search engine words Chopra Jackson interviews and hit the image bar for photos. Yes, there is enough sufficient evidence of their friendship- Depak's own son joined MJ on tour for the entire leg with Depak joining them on the second half- I would consider this an invitation that goes much deeper than an aquaintance level. I also agree that the accusations that MJ threatened Murray are absolutely insane, unbelievable and completely ridiculous and not even worth entertaining. Simba, I have to disagree on your point with cancer/diabetic/dialysis- these medications are needed to SAVE lives- MJ's Rx. medication "alleged abuse/adiction was a result of being over prescribed multiple medications to treat the same condition. Chemo/diabetes/HIV/Hep. medications would never fall into the same category as benzos and opiates. Diabetics do not typcially seek out "insulin" by multiple doctors, using various aliases and graduate to surgery strength medication to achieve rest becuase they have built a tolerance to it; that doesn't even make sense. I see your point though, but that simply does not apply in this case. IHMJ xoxo


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 1:48 pm ET

Simba,
There is a difference between a person being "addicted" to drugs and a person taking medication for a chronic illness. An addict takes the drug for another purpose other than an illness, although it may start out that way , but then it becomes out of control. Addiction is an illness in itself and must be treated accordingly. I believe Mj had an addictive personality – he was addicted to shopping, cosmetic surgery and prescription drugs. It does not make him a bad person......only that he had an illness and unfortunately it was never treated properly. Greedy people took advantage of his addictions, and it ultimately led to his death.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Eli and mourning mj – How did you feel about Chopra calling MJ a controlled addict??? i’m just curious about telling us that you’re both MJ’S FAN


Maria   September 15th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

Diabetics, cancer patients, lupus sufferers and people with heart conditions usually receive proper medications and in correct doses. I doubt there are doctors who overprescribe or prescribe crazy things in such cases only because they want to gain more money from these patients. I doubt there are such patients who ask their friends to provide them drugs on top or instead what their doctors are already prescribing. I doubt their doctors need to use aliases to prescribe medications to their patients. And I doubt their families try to intervene to get them off the medications.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 1:56 pm ET

Mariau
The word "addict" does not refer to a specific drug, only that the person cannot control themselves with the substance. You can become addicted to anything.......certain people become more easily addicted than others. Mj was addicted to drugs. Yes, he was.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:00 pm ET

Maria,
Certain drugs are more addictive than others. Pain medicine, opiates are very habit forming. The other medications you mentioned are not habit forming. This has nothing to do with being an MJ fan. He had an addiction. He admitted himself in '93. My husband is an alcoholic. He is addicted to alcohol. I still love him. He fights his addiction every day of his life.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Zoe – i disagree agree with you, there's right term to Michael... He was enabled to use drugs for medication... when you said addict for junkie or addicted to drug medication..


mariau   September 15th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Zoe – i mean only disagree wrong typo


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

Zoe – we know that, the thing is the media makes it sound like he was a criminal monster and forget about the illness and also forget that addiction is an illness too. Using aliases isn't something weird for celebreties, it is common practise anyways, or pharmacies would start to sell the things to media.. hahaha did you know soandso has soandso and needs to take this medication.
So the media riding on the aliases is stupid.
They want him to look criminal and the real criminals are the doctors doing what they did.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 2:08 pm ET

MARIA AND ZOE-
YOU NAILED IT!


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

The term "junkie" refers to being addicted to junk which is heroin. But addicts can be addicted to anything. The term "junkie" means something different than the term " addict" Mj was not a junkie, but he was an addict. Once an addict, always an addict...you fight it your whole life. He admitted it himself.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:14 pm ET

Mariau,

If Michael was a controlled addict I don´t know. I don´t know what Chopra means by it.

I read by story by one of the Jackson insiders that MJ was very compartmentelizing, both his life for himself as with his friends. It does make sense. I do believe he was addicted. Opiates are addictive and at first given to help to fight insomnia, using too much it causes reverse effects and keeps you awake more and more. This is what probably happened. It was the doctors fault to keep on giving it to him, but it does not take away the addiction itself and probably, as the Sun footage shows, Michael realized himself he might have signed business deals while being impaired.

Mariau you say above:Eli and mourning mj – How did you feel about Chopra calling MJ a controlled addict??? i’m just curious about telling us that you’re both MJ’S FAN

I am not sure what you are trying to say, but if you are trying to corner me and MourningMJ as NON-fans, then you are very wrong.

I think we should build more resistance. I am hurting by it too, but I see no use in ignoring it. As Lisa S said, ignoring is disrespecting. if only more people stopped ignoring it, it might have been very different today and he might have been still alive. There is probably coming out more unpleasant news for which I try to build resistance. I am not sticking my head in the sand. You can be realistic and a great fan at the same time, Mariau.


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

Zoe – I know that and I posted the same words on another blog, you will be addicted your whole life. And still I believe we was clean for many years and it became worse again the last year.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

** MARIAU"

In repsonse to your question- I have very little connection or emotion attached to Chopra's comments about MJ's addiction. I can say this with confidence, however: Chopra was far more aquainted with MJ than you and I ever will be therefore is allowed more opportunity to contribute his thoughts on MJ's life. I am a devoted MJ fan- always have been and always will be, forever. I am on HIS side- not the other side. I strongly believe he was manipulated, coerced, brainwashed, and imeasurably taken advantage of by the monsters around him. He was significantly desperate for emotional relief, this is not a secret. Just because I have an opinion different than others, does not exclude me as an MJ fan. I have been following MJ 27 years before he even died. I've read every single book (except that witch Diane Dimond and that jerk Bob Jones/Stacy Brown's), read every single lyric to every single song ever produced (and released by MJ), and listened to every word of every interview given my Michael (not spectators in his circle) possible that I can find. I did not jump on the MJ bandwagon on 6/25/09- As I said before, I am just as devestated today as I was on 6/25/09 and am completely frozen with grief. However, MJ was more than just a musical icon to me- he was a human that I found great interest in because he possessed the ability to captivate the human soul- you can't find many of those people nowa days. I think MJ was an addict, and like ZOE said, an addict in many ways; the drugs was just a small piece. I think it's clear he was addicted to finding some inner peace, however, a plutheria of cruel malicious monsters pointed him the wrong direction. IHMJ xoxo


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

But some people with severe insomnia are more resistant to medication/drugs, not necessarily because they are taking cart loads of medication on a daily basis.

Some people are more "immune" to the effects of sedation & require greater doses to feel sedated. It's to do with their psychological & physiological make up.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:18 pm ET

Mariau,
I know its hard...I love him too and it is so heartbreaking. But, I know about addiction. I have been to the AA meetings with my husband for his alcoholism. The biggest problem in getting hep is overcoming the DENIAL:. The first step is admitting the problem and the fact that an addiction exists. Addiction is over powering and most people need professional help to overcome it. But, Mj didn't receive the help he desperately needed, and for this I am outraged. Instead he had enablers who encouraged his addiction.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 2:26 pm ET

Eli and Zoe:
I'm very impressed by your commentary. It's sad to think that many people are uneducated in addiction. I've been working with heroin addicts in the clinical aspect for 13 years and I am NO where being close to an expert, nor, will I ever. Addiction is cunning, mainpulative and deceiving. NOT only to the addict, but to everyone around them. Family, friends, and yes, even us fans. Of course that would NEVER minimize our love, dedication or support to MJ. Can you imagine what would happen if MJ were to walk into any of OUR lives? We would think that we could save him and make all of his suffering disappear. I wish that were true. Addiction is ugly; for some, it's impossible to accept that one of the people we admire most in this world succumbed to such a desolate existence. But it happened- even to our Beloved King.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I think you expressed very well what I have been trying and couldn't. That's why I want to call the spade a spade. Behind the addiction and the struggle from it was something so much deeper and profound. I would not wish my worst enemy the inner struggle and search Michael went through. This weekend I watched the Oprah 1993 interview again and I paid attention to all MJ's expresses very closely. Knowing only a couple months later than the interview he would end up breaking up the Dangerous tour, ending up in Elton John's clinic and finally being caught up in the Jordie Chandler case, I paid EXTRA attention to his moves, his look etc. It breaks my heart to see such spiritual and kind person struggling so much.

Having said that I don't think I am less of a fan than other blogger here.


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

Time Line

Looking at recent travels he has spent a lot of time out of the USA. I can't see anyone providing or giving Propofol in Ireland to MJ so he can't have been using it then. Same applies to Bahrain.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Tina,
I think so too-
He tried so hard for his children and his fans to keep clean. He wanted the comeback so badly. But, he didn't think he could do it with out the help of drugs. Perhaps it started out slowly, and got a bit worse. But he was taking huge amounts, which means he had built up an immunity. Damn doctors......they knew what they were doing to him and how dangerous it was. AEG too. He needed to be carried out of the house and forced into rehab. I wish I knew him and saw up close what was happening. Didn't anyone see who really cared? How can fans love him so much, and the people around him care so little?


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

People, all I want is that they do not treat him like a criminal. I am not shocked about him being addicted to medicine. No wonder he was after all he had to go through. Like Madonna said... a witchhunt...
a witchhunt over many years and the witch wasn't dead right away, the witch managed to swim in an ocean with a stone around the neck for many years.
Some people withstand many troubles in their lifes, others not so many. To point fingers on him, like the media does is disrespectful, since they contributed 80% to this mess.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I also want to value Lisa Marie's words. She said she tried to help him. Reading her moving and respectful blog after his passing, I can only deduct from it some serious problems in the med department existed already then.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

Maureen,

This Metzger (or whatever his name was) said Michael already took it in Germany during the Dangerous tour. Remember he had to cut this tour short and released an official statement he had to face the problem and be treated in England. He went to Elton John's clinic and later on stayed in John's house for a while under supervision of a doctor and shrink.


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Eli – that was 1993 and he admitted it on TV in front of million people, it was known.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Eli-
Seeing a person that you love, warts and all, does not mean you love them any less. Quite the contrary-


mariau   September 15th, 2009 2:35 pm ET

Tina (Germany)- well said


mariau   September 15th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

People make a lot of assumptions, but I should hope for all of us, once we are gone and buried someone would know and understood the person that we were.
I believed later on in his career Michael Jackson shunned the media for how he was betrayed, and I felt it only right to seek what truth I could find on my own. Somehow I don’t think he would mind someone honestly seeking knowledge about this Greater than life star Humanitarian. Michael Jackson, he was as well someone who loved and sought after knowledge.
To know the man, is to understand him. To learn from him is to honor him.


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Eli, Israel
Yes, but that was in 1993, after Chandler had made allegations. What I mean is, that MJ probably hadn't used Propofol for quite some time e.g. Ireland, Bahrain & where else was mj in the last few years? I think he had probably managed without it recently.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:39 pm ET

Yes, Tina. Being an addict doesn't make him a criminal. The doctors acted criminally. It is against the law to prescribe these meds to an addict.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:42 pm ET

Maureen,
I think it was Dr. Ratner on the HIStory tour that introduced Mj to propofol. He probably thought he needed it again for the comeback concerts and therefore hired Murray. I don't think it took too long for him to become addicted to it again. Murray claims he gave it to him every night for 6 weeks. How horrible is that? For that reason alone, Murray should be in jail.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

I am tucking in, I did some extensive sightseeing today and can hardly keep my eyes open any longer.

Night!


mariau   September 15th, 2009 2:45 pm ET

Did you know the sleep disorder Michael Jackson experienced is common for some people with Lupus? For some people of this disease through medications they are able to obtain sleep. Unfortunately for Michael Jackson he did not find the same solutions for his sleep problems, and he turned to Propofol.
Activan, which is a Lorazepam, we find Michael Jackson used were drugs used by people with the Lupus disease. Propofol is dangerous when combined with benzodiazepines such as lorazepam and midazolam.

Lorazepam drugs can be addictive, but depending on what form of Lupus you have these drugs have been used as a way to handle this disease. It would seems in spite of Michael Jackson’s use of these other drugs Propofol was the only thing that helped Michael Jackson find some form of sleep. Lorazepam drugs are also given through IV’s.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Maureen, it could be, what you say. Maybe he started with the propofol again because the pressure of the upcoming tour became too much. That's the feeling I have from the beginning. He postponed a few concerts, which looked to me as dreading. It was propbably the pressure. Therefore I keep saying this come back was too soon. he first should have dealt with the issue and then come back.


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

I am shocked about the doctor, how far those people go for money. It isn't like a doctor prescribed a box with 200 valium and told him to take 1 each day and he ate all at once. He did not decide how many narcotica he got, the doctor did.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Dr Gupta of CNN showed on TV someone that was brought to sleep with propofol. Within 3 minutes he stopped breathing and to be intubated. To me it says all.


8080   September 15th, 2009 2:50 pm ET

Have to love these passive aggressive morons!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 2:51 pm ET

Zoe,

I don't know what to think of LMP. I tend to believe she was sincere but not persistant enough. It was not nice of her to discredit Michael later on, but my guess is she was very frustrated by all of it.


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 2:54 pm ET

Eli-
I agree with your last post. I don't know who was pulling the strings on the concert tour. But, he was definitely not up to it. Maybe he will look good in the movie, but I can't help think he doesn't look too well in alot of the footage we will never get to see.


Tina (Germany)   September 15th, 2009 2:57 pm ET

Zoe – I have to agree on that. It is not like she gave up after 10 years trying.....15 month....for me this is like nothing really. When you know through what other couples might go during their lifes and how long they stay together. Well but that is me....no idea what happened in this 15 month really, so I can also be very wrong, even I don't think so.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

**ELI**

I am in complete support of you; you are NOT less of a fan because you can see through smoke and mirrors. Neither am I. And neither are the rest of the dedicated MJ fans who chose not to see it or understand it. I don't think that any one of us is qualified to diagnose when MJ's treatment that graduated to a habit that escalated into an addiction even began- did it begin with the Pepsi burn? The Vitiligo? The Lupus? The Depression? I say NO way. It began much earlier than the physical kick offs. Childhood is an endless timeline for many of us; filled with unbelievable stories and fantasies. Michael's childhood pretty much sumed up to be (in MJ's OWN words)- school, studio, beatings. If the only happiness you know is climbing under the arms of your big brother at night time to protect you from the father who is suppose to be your safety net, then of course it's not impossible to think that there may be something to the magic of prescription medication that takes you to an unreachable, untouchable level you have never reached before. IHMJ xoxo


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Eli-
Regarding LMP.....I have no respect for her. The interview she gave with Diane Sawyer after the divorce was unforgivable, very harsh. Friends don't do that to one another. Mj never said one bad thing about her, quite the opposite. She is a phoney I don't care what she twitters or says. Actions speak louder than words, and her actions speak for themselves.


Maria   September 15th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Addiction is cunning, mainpulative and deceiving. NOT only to the addict, but to everyone around them. Family, friends, and yes, even us fans. Of course that would NEVER minimize our love, dedication or support to MJ.
======
Exactly. For many of us, the information from the police documents and the coroner was a total surprise. And I believe that Joe Jackson, for example, had no idea that MJ used propofol.

I said it before, I don't need to imagine a perfect MJ to love his music. I'm not ashamed of that and never will be. And I believe that only people with a very superficial understanding of life and human nature can blame and despise a person who has an addiction – be it addiction to prescription drugs, alcohol or crack. People mechanically blame either the addict or his family/friends or both, but it's a terrible vicious circle – on one hand, the others try to help you, but only you can decide to make the painful effort of breaking free; on the other hand, the addiction controls you, so you need the help of others. Some people escape this vicious circle, some not.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

Eli-
I agree with your comment regarding Lisa Marie- I believe she loved MJ. We don't have to understand their relationship; as long as it's understood.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

WELL SAID MARIA-
TRUE AND HONEST MJ DEVOTEE


Zoe   September 15th, 2009 3:08 pm ET

Often presciption med addiction starts out slowly and then snowballs, until the original reason you started taking the medication is forgotten and your addiction becomes the really big problem. It starts out innocent and then gets out of control.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

Maria, I agree with you.

Guys, my feet hurt. I sightsaw (????) for about 7 hours in a row, I am exhausted. I am going to tuck in.

Keep up the good work of sending blessings to the tripple P (Prince, Paris and Prince II) 🙂


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:16 pm ET

pressure didn't killed Michael.. Dr. Murray killed him..


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 15th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

One last post, the latest news:

Dr. Arnold Klein has sued Dr. Steven Hoefflin in the Michael Jackson prescription drug saga - sued him for defamation of character.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL !!!!


zzddog   September 15th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

I would be very careful what I write on these blogs, they will sue-as you can see .


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 3:18 pm ET

ELI***
Hope you hare having a GREAT time! Do you live there or are visiting? Of course and nothing less- Blessings to the MJ's beloved Blessings.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!!! ALL PREDATORS SHOULD GO TO JAIL..


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

** TO ZZDOG**

Be careful to who? What are they going to sue, my screenname? Please. They can feel free. I'm not sure where you exact location is, but here in the United States, we have the constitunial right to freedom of speech, that is including opinions. You can't sue based on speculation anyway- that's what this entire blog/post is. PURE speculation. thoughts and opinions. Take care.


zzddog   September 15th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

**Oh please** lol


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:26 pm ET

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!!!


Jacquelyn   September 15th, 2009 3:32 pm ET

Eli

Lisa Marie you should definetly not give her any credit. She is probably just like the rest of them. Just because she wrote something on her blog does not mean it is true.
Besides she and her mother disrespected him.


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 3:35 pm ET

Goodnight, Eli.

Zoe
Whenever it started, e.g. the dangerous tour, then possibly the History tour, it looks like using propofol had probably stopped quite a few years ago. I don't think Mj was using I.V. medication in the last few years but maybe oral medication. I also think treating insomnia is a much more complex condition to treat than it appears.


Samantha - South Africa   September 15th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

I have to say I'm pretty disappointed after coming across something that has sat at the back of my cupboard for quite some time!I purchased Oprah's 20th anniversary edition 3 years ago and came across it a few hours back whilst clearing out the cupboard in my study and unbeknown to me after all this time,I cared to look at the booklet on the inside of the dvd pack which has a list of what's on each disc and Michael's interview which is the most watched interview in history was nowhere to be found, yet Oprah claims that the anniversary edition includes all her best TV moments,it seems like Oprah thought Michael wasn't 'good enough' to be included!

I then came across Lisa Marie's interview on disc 3 which was aired in 2005 and decided to play it,and oh my god I just can't believe the way in which she spoke to Oprah when asked about her marriage to Michael and she went on to say that she was 'naive and stupid' and implied that Michael was 'controlling' her and seemed embarassed.Her mother Priscilla then came on and Oprah asked her about what she thought about Lisa & Michael,when I heard that,I just pressed the stop button my remote because I knew exactly where this was heading!

And If it couldn't get any 'worse',Oprah when addressing the marriage topic,made it seem like it was a 'joke' given the manner in which she conducted herself!

Seriously after watching this,I don't even think Oprah should air that show tomorrow because to me,Michael does not deserve to be addressed on a show where he has been indirectly 'taunted' for years!!!


Triny   September 15th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

How many of you are so sick of this guy trying to prop up himself by defaming Michael Jackson? CNN loves this guy so much because he's trashing Michael. CNN, like the rest of the media has trashed MJ for almost 2 decades. They hate MJ!

Why hasn't Deepak Chopra spoken up years ago about this? Why choose now to do it, now that MJ is no longer here to defend himself? We should all protest this guy. I'm sick and tired of hearing his name and hearing him bash a man he claims to 'love'. Michael had his share of problems like the rest of America has.

This continuous trashing of Michael Jackson and the media's goal to make sure he goes down as a prescription drug user is disgusting! Not once have they shed any light on Michael's humanitarian deeds and he's done 2 decades of this! The media & CNN no longer has credibility. That was shot a long time ago.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

samantha – thanks for sharing your story about Oprah. really i had no idea..


8080   September 15th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

Exactly the media cornered Lisa Marie at opening statements, like she was a fool on National Television. All part of the extortion.


Maureen (UK)   September 15th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

LMP's mother used to even critisize Elvis on talk shows if i'm not mistaken. You would think she could have kept her trap shut at least for her daughter's feelings.
Let's see if oprah apologises !

Where is the Madonna blog ? why have they taken it down already ?


mariau   September 15th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

samantha – how could we trust Lisa Marie? she wrote something about MJ in her blogs.. she was doubled face!!!
it's seems to me that Lisa had no word of honor, every time she changed her story depends to whom she was speaking for.


Maria   September 15th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

The Madonna blog post is there. Click on Categories –> Michael Jackson. When new blog posts appear, the old ones aren't listed anymore under Recent Posts.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

**TRINY**

I do not think that Chopra's intention is to maliciously hurt MJ in anyway. He is just saying it like it is; what does he have to gain by losing MJ? I'm sure many will fire back with "fame" "money" etc. However, this is simply not true, at least this is the evidence that I have found. Chopra conducted a few television interviews with both GMA and Today and the shows clearly stated that he was NOT compensated for his imput in anyway. Who are any of us to minimize his pain? We have no idea, NONE, what the value of their relationship was or what it meant to him. I have NO reason NOT to believe that he planed more than one intervention for Michael. Michael was just not interested in his help for one reason or another, none of us who are possibly qualified to determine. As I said earlier, Chopra was closer to MJ than you or I will ever be so he has more opportunity to offer insight in his life than we do. It's hard to hear, of course. But what evidence do we have to support otherwise? Of course Chopra would NEVER publicize MJ's addiction while he was alive- he kept his secret. If you research Chopra's relationship with Michael you will discover that Chopra intercepted MJ's family many times with concerns over his (MJ's) alarming behaivors. I cannot possibly speculate why Chopra is now advertising Michael's secrets, but Chopra was certainly wealthy, well-known and well-liked in many communities including Hollywood and International BEFORE Michael died. Way before he died. Chopra is not responsible for MJ's death. IF WE, US BLOGGERS ARE PUBLICLY ALLOWED TO SHARE OUR FEELINGS ABOUT MICHAEL, WHY ISN'T CHOPRA ALLOWED THE SAME RIGHT WITHOUT PUNISHMENT? I think it's critical to examine their relationship before any judgement is passed; that's the way Michael would have wanted it. IHMJ xoxo


mariau   September 15th, 2009 4:34 pm ET

MOURNING MJ – THEN RESPECT TRINY WHY YOU SO UPSET.. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CHOPRA..


mariau   September 15th, 2009 4:37 pm ET

MOURNING MJ – WE ALL LOVE MICHAEL.. let her ... it doesn't mean your English is better than to anyone here.. Triny she didn't address you anyway...

TRINY – VERY WELL SAID.. AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.. 😉 😉


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

**MARIAU **
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Who suggested my "English" was better than anyone's in here? I NEVER even mentioned my native tongue in my last post- get it together Maria- now YOU are making false allegations against me and I would entertain it, however, it doesn't even make sense. Triny can say whatever she wants- you think I'm going to stop her? I also can say whatever I want and I exercised my right to respond to her post. I suggest, you, however, have your facts correct and not just make it up as you go along (like throwing in the ridiculous "English" comment) because you sound very foolish. And when did you become Triny's lawyer? She seems to be well spoken and I'm sure is quite capable of defending herself.


mariau   September 15th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

Mourning MJ – well said.. and thank you to criticizing my english.. well said.. thank you.. 🙂 🙂 🙂


mariau   September 15th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Mourning MJ – good night 🙂


Jacquelyn   September 15th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Samantha – South Africa

Thank you for sharing that with us


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 5:21 pm ET

To MourningMJ:

Freedom of speech.....oke,
With respect: For me you are manipulative, you are using so many words, 'you are a devoted fan', 100 x prescription medication or drugs...the so-called friends and so and so on. pfff..it didn't impress me at all.

All this information, It runs in a circle around and I don't believe all the comments...................with respect.

(It is unfortunate the English language is not my own, I can express myself much easier in the Dutch language).

I am on these blogs for many many weeks now, for 5 hours daily..., for only one reason: Who is responsible for the death of Michael Jackson because his death is not natural? The doctor/and maybe others have murdered him (slowly)?
For me thats a fact because I can see these things...(pictures/videos in may of this year, 6 weeks before he died). Maybe this information is scary to you, for me it's normal, I am used to it.

Thats why I am persistent, the doctors who are involved are responsible. Who is behind the(se) doctor(s)? Who...

For me I don't need all this speculations...and trying to analyze all these posts, pff.

Question to you all:
Is the FBI involved with the investigation?
Can we write a letter to the LAPD...?

Does anybody know what has happened to Gene...?
I miss him.

Groeten to all


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 5:26 pm ET

**MARIA**
I NEVER ever criticized YOUR English- Ever. Please, reread the post. Again. I wouldn't know if English is your first, second or even third language. It doesn't affect me one way or the other. What does my native tongue have ANYthing to do with my commentary? Nothing. I hope you can focus on something more positive.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 5:34 pm ET

**cherubijne, The Netherlands**

First, I apologize for using "words" in my sentences, that is how one communicates. Secondly, on a more positive note, I think you express yourself quite beautifully and you should not be self conscience about your English. Like I expressed to Maria, I would have NO idea that English is your first, second language. It's not relevant at all. I am certainly NOT trying to impress you- I don't even know you. I receive no benefit in trying to impress anyone. This is how a blog works: One expresses an opinion, another comments off of it. That's as far as it goes. Just like YOU expressed your opinion off of my blog, I did the same for another. It's not complicated, nor, would I like it to be. We can agree to disagree if you'd like, but I do not think it needs to go that far. As far as your questions go, yes the FBI has launched an investigation into this case here in the U.S. When the FBI becomes involved in criminal cases, it's very serious. What their progress is, is still unknown as the criminal investigation remains sealed and the public has not accessability until it is completed. You can write to the LAPD, but they cannot reveal any information to you personally. I do think the doctors contributed to MJ's untimely passing. These "doctors' were more like "decorations" to Michael as they (the doctors") bled MJ to death for money and fame. There are more people involved as well. His "circle" has MJ"s blood on their hands too. You sound like a beloved MJ fan and I know you miss him. As do I. IHMJ xoxo


sherry   September 15th, 2009 5:41 pm ET

I honestly am sosick of seeing all the fighting,,,,,,,,,,,,were are sopposed to be REPRESENTING love,,,,,,,,,,ect,,,,,,,,,here stop I REPEAT STOP ALL THIS HATE


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 5:43 pm ET

Sherry-
who is hating? Hate is a STRONG word- Blogs are for opinions. Not for kittens and rainbows.


sherry   September 15th, 2009 5:45 pm ET

MourningMJ
maybe you come across to me as just aggressive, just the last few days seems to be more bickering on here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,in general


sherry   September 15th, 2009 5:46 pm ET

MourningMJ

just want US ALL to take a positive spin, thats all, not tryin to dig on you


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 5:58 pm ET

**SHERRY**
You are sweet. I am aggressive, I am angry, I am hurt, I am disappointed. It's hard to take a positive spin on a Death Investigation- especially for Michael. I understand your position and I totally respect it. I can write volumes on the good things that MJ has done for us. For all of us. Take care. I hope you are feeling better.
IHMJ xoxo


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Dear Sherry,

It's not hate,
it's only, 'the investigation is taking so long'.


8080   September 15th, 2009 6:20 pm ET

*IGNORE*


Victoria   September 15th, 2009 6:21 pm ET

I would like someone to ask Chopra one question " If and your saying, Michael Jackson was your friend, and you were aware that he an issue with presciption medications, What or anything you as his friend, did to get him help or make it known to someone who could possibly intervene to get him help before this tragedy occurred???

If, he could honestly answer this question, I would love to hear the answer. I have close friends and know I would not, especially after their passing be saying publically or in any manner, that my friend was a contolled addict.

No wonder this man was so guarded in life! Hopefully, now Michael does have peace of mind and is resting in peace. My heart goes out to his children, Can you imagine as his child someday knowing a so-called friend saying your father was an addict publically ? Sorry, but I wouldn't want to call Chopra my friend...


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:21 pm ET

To MourningMJ,

It's/was your attitude....but now I know the reason.
You are posting here for a short time?


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:23 pm ET

To 8080:

Who on this blog is Ignore?


sherry   September 15th, 2009 6:26 pm ET

cherubijne, The Netherlands@
That is very true,if I cone across as a butt, Its frustration on why we are nto hearing anything on the Michael INvestigation!~thanks for reminding me of that,gotta go make dinner,,,,,,,,,hugs to all


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:35 pm ET

To 8080:

Maybe you are afraid of something otherwise your comment is very rude and disrespecful?


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:37 pm ET

To 8080:

I don't understand:'If I cone across as a butt'...


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:47 pm ET

to Sherry: I understand now.


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

To 8080:

R-E-S-P-E-C-T = very important in this world


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 15th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

To 8080:

I am sorry when you in denial, I understand.
Listen to his/the music, maybe this can help you.


MourningMJ   September 15th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

**cherubijne, The Netherlands**
I'm sorry, I was off for a while. I have been coming here on and off for maybe a few weeks. I see many depths of fan's perspectives of MJ; many in denial, many accepting, many hurt, angry, and some simply do not care whom I wouldn't consider to be fans at all. I guess it's fair to say that Michael had more than two sides to him.
IHMJ xoxo


Nancy lasocki   September 15th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Deepak is not wrong. He is speaking the truth. Hey!!! TRUTH HURTS!! Dr's take an oath to help us not kill us. There are alot of them that want to make that buck. It's time to crack down on what Dr's can prescribe. They give drugs like it's candy. Don't hate me people, it's my opinion. Thanks1


simba   September 15th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

MourningMJ – I followed your advice – I Googled Chopra Jackson interviews and images. What did I find? Pictures of Deepak Chopra, pictures of Michael Jackson, and lots of pictures of Bollywood stars.

The ONLY picture I found with Michael Jackson and Deepak Chopra together – the shot taken years ago, with Deepak in a hat and a cheesy grin, the same picture I described earlier.

The interviews that I found were of Chopra talking about MJ AFTER he died. In other words, there is nothing to indicate that their relationship was deep or recent. I'm aware that Gotham accompanied MJ on the Dangerous tour. But MJ was known to be generous about letting even casual acquaintances hang out with him.

I base my criticism of Chopra on the fact that, when MJ's body was still warm, Deepak went on LKL and absolutely TRASHED every aspect of MJ's life. Nothing out of his mouth could be construed to come from a place of love. Nothing. Chopra seemed hell-bent on convincing us that Michael Jackson was not only worthless, he was better off dead.

Loving and generous as he was, MJ was known to drop people when he tired of their company. I think that's what happened to Chopra, and he never got over his fall from MJ's graces.

I personally believe Chopra is jealous of MJ. I could compare it to Salieri's obsessive jealousy of Mozart, except that Salieri was, in his time, far more celebrated for his music than Chopra is for whatever the hell it is he does.

I have ZERO respect for Deepak Chopra, and it's got nothing to do with MJ's purported addictions, medical problems, whatever. When someone dies, their true friends don't go into overdrive trying to destroy their legacy.

"Diabetics, cancer patients, lupus sufferers and people with heart conditions usually receive proper medications and in correct doses. I doubt there are doctors who overprescribe or prescribe crazy things in such cases only because they want to gain more money from these patients. "

Maria – with the utmost respect, doctors are given all kinds of perks and bonuses by the pharmaceutical companies to prescribe their products, and the profit margin for doctors from chemotherapy treatment is huge. Far too many of those we count on to care for us are driven primarily by money.


Kim from MN   September 15th, 2009 11:06 pm ET

Well Deepak where were you? So self righteous for your own gain. You are as bad as Thome and the rest of the 'I'll be your friend as long as the gravy train' keeps going. You will get exactly what you have coming to you – Michael will see to that.

Now onto something more positive! I love the trailer – really makes the anticipation even harder for what we will be seeing. As far as I'm concerned Michael still has the moves (and the GOLD PANTS!) and I can hardly wait for the movie and then the DVD. It's been a long 2 1/2 months and it's nice to know something good is coming shortly.

Too bad we can't say the same thing about the investigation though, but I think when everything is said and done we will know the truth on exactly what happened that day (and the days or even months leading up to it) and only good will come of it. Heaven help me if I'm wrong.

Rest in peace Michael – we love you more!!


Sandy-Houston   September 15th, 2009 11:10 pm ET

Mourning MJ-
Yes,Michael did have many sides. And I think that's why everyone has such strong feelings. Addiction is such a difficult thing to
watch and accept, but it is a reality. We all have emphasized since his death that Michael was human. And humans make bad decisions, mistakes. Michael was not perfect, as none of us are perfect. As I watched the second part of the Whitney Houston interview my heart broke when she spoke about MJ and how she knew something wasn't right with him. Difficult to accept but I believe we may find outnsome things about Michael in the next months that will difficult to accept. Not tabloid stuff but facts. But I will still love him as a human being and the sweet,kind,loving person who brought to this world much love.


Niura Schwartz   September 16th, 2009 12:15 am ET

@Sandy-Houston : Very well said it! Last week I was at the Great Mausoleum and for the last eighty days I have Michael in my toughts I try to make comparisions with a family member who was addicted to prescribed medications and literaly faded away in front of my eyes and I see a lot of similarities. Also, I believe that Michael couldn't open up to people as he wanted , he was a special Human Beign he had needs and wishes that weren't fulfield. Is very difficult to point at the problem, whatever it was killed him and it does not matter what is to come. What can we learn. Michael will always be Michael to me and I wish he is in a beautiful place.


Jessica   September 16th, 2009 12:51 am ET

I agree with most of you re: D. Chopra also. A true friend would not speak of Michael the way he has. I have believed since the beginning that he just wanted publicity to sell more of his books-he also was going on his speaking tour in the fall so what a great opportunity for some free publicity. FANS OF MICHAEL–Do not purchase any of Chopra's books etc. How come his son is always being interviewed. How do we know they were friends and what the heck does this Gotham do for a living? Is he also trying to get publicity for books too? If I see their faces on t.v. again I think I'll vomit.


Veronica   September 16th, 2009 3:04 am ET

Media killed Michael. They spread lies about him all over the world. Of course Michael had to take anti-depressives and at times sleeping pills. Being treated and lied upon like Michael was, who wouldn't need some medication. However, in Michael's case, these doctors were only interested in money. They gave him these drugs that killed him pretending they were so good and harmless – they wanted him to get addicted so that they could make loads of money. The pharmacies are not innocent either – insiders were happy to make extra money selling these meds to Michael's doctors. Money, money, money – some sell their soul to the devil.


itsme_gia   September 16th, 2009 3:14 am ET

I dont think deepak wants to make money out of michael's death..i know deep down he cares for mj just like all of us..i can understand him..he wants mj's death be a wake up call to those who are battling with addiction for whatever reasons..id like to point out also that,mj maybe addicted to drugs because of lupus, but doctors who took care of him should have not substandardly medicated him..if they are paid by mj,they should taken care well of him..treated mj right..perhaps thats why deepak may have said mj is an controlled addict..he is being drugged to gain control of him..to milk more money out of him..
these are the thoughts that pains me ang haunted me all this time since mj died..i hope mj's family will not take this for granted..as for the the stars..well, reflect more and love yourself more..your fans loves you..


cherubijne, The Netherlands   September 16th, 2009 3:34 am ET

MourningMJ

'more than two sides to him',

yes, I think so.


Meyling L.   September 16th, 2009 4:27 am ET

Now everybody was Michael's friend and now everyone knows about his private life. Seriously, right now I don't trust anybody! Just his family (am not sure about his dad) and his true friends he always had by his side: Eli Taylor and Macauly Culkin. Other than that....they can say anything really...!


Hande Kurt from Turkey   September 16th, 2009 6:44 am ET

Let's suppose for a moment that "Michael was a controlled addict". Why would one have spoken about the "controlled addiction" of one his best friends after his passing???? Just to make money or like it's said to promote his book?
C'mon; a true friend never ever talks or writes these things...
And I'm askin' to the ones who defends Deepak; If Deepak is a real friend of Michael, what is Miko Brando like? A bad one maybe you think!!!!!!
MICHAEL JACKSON WAS A REAL LEGEND OF ALL TIME AND WE -AS HIS REAL FANS- KNOW EVERY DETAIL ABOUT HIS SOUL AND KINDNESS. TO US, HE WAS NOT ONLY AN ICON BUT ALSO A REAL LOVING, CARING, KIND HUMAN BEING... (as most of others cannot be...)
Please leave him alone and let him rest in peace, which he always wanted to...


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 8:43 am ET

Mariau,

Stop bashing people who have not the same idea as you. I know what you are trying to do, you are trying to not only me but also some others corner in the NON-friends department, just because we do not agree on all your points. It's so obvious, stop it. I know you have a good heart but we want this case solved just as much as you.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 9:09 am ET

Let's make a bet. This famous director that is on Michael's supposed hit list is either Stephen Spielberg or David Geffen. If I remember well it was Farakhan who said something like the zionist or Jewish gang blocked Michael.


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 10:08 am ET

**SIMBA**

This will be the last time I will address the Chopra/MJ issue with you; you stated that you googled them and found very little; on the contrary, I just googled them as well and found six pictures of them together and an interview in script. The issue is that since MJ's death, their have been literally hundreds of thousands of entries regarding MJ and his associates, so you must dig very very deep for this information; I would not send you on a wild goose change, that's ridiculous and doesn't even make sense.

I"m not quite sure what you are seeking to gain out the validity of their relationship; WHO ARE WE to questions, challenge, minimize or doubt the quality or quantity of their friendship?? Chopra spoke very highly of MJ and it's obvious that he is quite disturbed over his passing. Also, too, you can confirm that Chopra was NOT compensated for his contributions for TV interviews. Here WE are, seeking info, regarding MJ"s death and Chopra has information to offer about a "possibility" to his death and because it's not what you want to hear you discredit him and say that he wasn't his friend and you do not trust him (That statement does not just apply to you Simba, this is for everyone challenging Chopra's and MJ's relationship)- Chopra was clearly heartbroken that MJ died. SEVERAL people claim they have attempted many times to save MJ as did Chopra say it as well (I have no proof they did, but I also have no proof they didn't either). Even MJ's own brother, Tito said that he and several siblings launched a military style raid on Neverland and confronted MJ about his drug addiction- an addiction he clearly denied and Tito even said himself (in TITO's OWN words) that he did not believe Michael. He also said that Randy and Janet dropped to the ground begging Michael to get help (TITO's own words) but MJ flat out refused claiming he did not have a problem. I believe that MJ believed he didnt' have a problem. I really do not think MJ realized the magnitude of his self-destruction.

Additionally, Simba, you often highlight and quote another person and demand explanations for our opinions, however, I have noticed that it has been at least twice that I have asked you of your thoughts regarding the 20+ prescription medication bottles they found in MJ's home and the 18 aliases on the bottles- I asked you if you denied this to be a symptom of addiction and you have yet to answer the question but it seems that you continue to maintain MJ was NOT a drug addict. It's like you are walking all the way around the block just to cross the street to answer this question- Perhaps the evidence is becoming more than obvious to you know and your changing your mind but your heart still wants to believe something different. So does everyone who loved him. IHMJ xoxo


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 10:09 am ET

** SPELLING ERROR-
FIRST SENTENCE I MEANT TO SAY GOOSE CHASE!


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 11:02 am ET

**ELI**

I think you're right- I think it is Steven Spielberg (just a GUESS though)-David Geffen was a music producer for Geffen Records. It was "rumored" (again, rumored- I have no thoughts about the next setence either way)- that Steven Spielberg stole the idea for "Dreamworks" and the Dreamworks logo from MJ. I do believe, though, that MJ WOULD come up with something brillant like Dreamworks. The story sounds credible.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 11:12 am ET

MourningMJ,

Bob Jones writes in his book Michael put a voodoo spell upon both of them. Jones even went to the extreme by saying Michael emersed in blood for this. It is terrible that Jones, a surrogate father for Michael for many years, made up something like that. I could imagine Michael had some sort of list of people he still had a quarrel with and needed to sort things out with, but what does Weisner mean with a hit list? With a hit list I get the impression you hire someone to do the job for you.


Sheletta   September 16th, 2009 11:39 am ET

Some of that stuff like what Jones has written is the reason that I do n ot buy the b ook. I read the reviews of what people think before I even consider purchasing thier books


Maria   September 16th, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Maria – with the utmost respect, doctors are given all kinds of perks and bonuses by the pharmaceutical companies to prescribe their products, and the profit margin for doctors from chemotherapy treatment is huge. Far too many of those we count on to care for us are driven primarily by money.
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That's right. But not to the tune of being paid outrageous sums by a millionaire patient. And I'm not thinking only about Murray or the propofol/benzo gang. Mark Lester may be wrong about other things, but I believe him when he suspects things like these:

Michael Jackson was conned into spending thousands of dollars on plastic surgery, according to close family friend Mark Lester.

Jackson only confessed to having gone under the knife twice, but experts insist he had multiple cosmetic surgeries and a host of other procedures.

The former Oliver! actor, who is godfather to Jackson's children, insists the pair never discussed the star's surgery – but he's convinced his pal was tricked into undergoing expensive procedures by practitioners who were after the Thriller singer's cash.

Lester recalls preventing the star from spending thousands on his youngest son, Prince Michael 'Blanket' II's, dental treatment – when he only needed a small filling.

He says, "I do believe Michael was conned into a lot of it. I remember, a few years ago, when Blanket needed a tooth filling. The nanny Grace took him to the dentist and the practitioner advised that he needed $40,000 worth of work. I spoke to Grace and told her to get a second opinion and take him to a dentist under a false name. She did – and all he needed was a $200 filling."


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 12:30 pm ET

**ELI/SHELLETA**

I did hear about those ridiculous Bob Jones accusations before (the vodoo, the blood baths, etc ) and I would never give him the satisfaction of purchasing or entertaining his trash talk on MJ, but since exerpts of his book are available online for free, I parused them briefly and laughed aloud at the outlandish claims he made on Michael. It's like he was writting under the influence. It's my understanding that MJ laid him off and since that time, he has had an axe to grind with the whole entire family. Bob Jones, did pass away as well, (that's also my understanding) and kept many of "MJ's secrets". He did testify at this trial however, (pulic record documentation) and did state that he NEVER saw MJ engage in any inappropriate behavior with any of the younger guests at Neverland or while on tour- but the jerk alleged in his book that he had "suspicions" of MJ's motives. Here is my problem with that: If Bob Jones continued to have unsettling feelings regarding MJ's "alleged inappropriate relationships" with his younger friends, why in the hell would you continue working for him for additional 15+ years? It doesn't make sense, and if it doesn't make sense then it's simply not true. Bob Jones also eluded to several other horrible allegations regarding MJ, but I choose not to entertain them because Bob Jones is one individual that I will not award any credibility to. The hit list? OMG, could you imagine MJ as a hitman? Ha! Never- I did hear about this hitlist that was on Entertainment Tonight, or TMZ or another one of those shows yesterday, but that hitlist has been mentioned before. It's my understanding that the individuals on this hitlist are just the people that betrayed MJ the most and created and distributed horrific lies about him to the media outlets. I know Tom Sneddon, the DA who prosecuted him in the 2004 trial and attempted to in the 1993 "allegations (more like extortion case) is alos on that list. The funny thing is- MJ made a mini-move called "Ghosts" in 1997 or 1998 and the heavy set Caucasian man IS actually Michael Jackson in costume and it is suppose to be Tom Sneddon- And this character (played by MJ) is face to face with the real MJ and it is an interpretation of how cruel Tom Sneddon was to him in 1993- it's quite spectacular and brillant. You should check it out on youtube- It's called Michael Jackson's "Ghost".


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Maria-
I agree with you- Lester has NOTHING to lose by stating that MJ was conned by greedy medical providers and that these "medical decorations" that clung on to MJ's sleeves had no motives other than to squeeze MJ dry. What does Lester have to gain by making up that information? Nothing.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I have a theory about Bob Jones. But it is just a theory. Not Michael but his new aids from the Nation of Islam got rid of Jones. Although Michael signed a short note which had to be considered as a dismissal, he probably did not know what was going on. I was thinking, since Michael confessed more or less on The Sun drug deposition tape he might have been impaired while signing business deals, it could well be he signed for Jones' dismissal while not knowing completely why.

Jones was so desolussioned that he took revenge in a very bad and inexcusable way, but it could well be Michael did not know what he signed.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

I think it is Michael's handwriting, that so called hit list. WHo says it is a hit list?

I read Tom Sneddon, Janet Arzivo, Uri Geller, Rabbi Shmuley, Gloria Allred, Tony Motolla, Diane Dimmond and some others which I can't remember.


simba   September 16th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

MourningMJ – If you asked me specifically what I thought about the numerous prescription bottles under different names that were found at Neverland, I'm afraid I missed it. Here's my answer:

Yes, MJ had a problem. But I doubt that his problem was as extensive as has been presented. Remember that the coroner's report did not find any of the drugs in MJ's body that we have been assured for weeks that he was abusing. I believe strongly that those in the media pushing the meme that MJ was a "drug addict" have an agenda to discredit MJ and to divert attention from guilty parties who had a hand in his death.

MJ had a dependency that was created and fostered by medical professionals. You and others try to fit him into the street drug abuser narrative, for example, Oprah, trying to equate Whitney Houston and her crackhead ways with MJ, which was shameful and ludicrous.

MJ wasn't trying to get high; he was seeking treatment for physical ailments, desperately so. It's perfectly valid to ask if, according to this narrative, diabetics and cancer patients are also drug addicts. Should we scorn them for their lack of personal responsibility as well?

As for the numerous prescriptions, MJ could very well have been trying to score additional drugs by using fictitious names. But it also could have been done by anyone in his entourage. You will never make me believe that MJ ingested the more than $100,000 in prescription drugs that Mickey Fine Pharmacy charged to his name. Throughout his career, MJ was surrounded by scuzzy associates who stole from him routinely.

You say that many people tried to help MJ by forcing him into rehab. True. And not one of those who tried was named Deepak Chopra. He knew that MJ was receiving inappropriate treatment, and as a physician himself, he had the means and the responsibility to call his unprofessional colleagues to account. By his own admission, he didn't do it.

I will not waver from my opinion that Deepak Chopra is no friend of Michael Jackson's, whatever the state of their relationship. As for his financial motive, as a member of AFTRA, I can assure you that guests on talk shows and news shows are paid a minimum fee for their appearances. But the real value is in the publicity – Chopra gets to revive his career, literally over MJ's dead body, just like Diane Dimond. Friends don't say the things Chopra has said about MJ, period. Most of his ugly remarks had NOTHING to do with prescription drugs. Hell hath no fury like a guru dumped, I guess.

The list of great artists who were drunks, opium eaters, manic-depressives, etc. reaches far back in the annals of human history. Their problems don't diminish their contributions. Michael Jackson's problems don't diminish his great artistry, either.

We all have negative aspects to our lives, but very few of us reach the heights MJ reached, or have given as much as he gave. If you get some sense of gratification or validation from saying "Michael Jackson was a drug addict", that's your own affair.

Maria – I'm genuinely puzzled by your post. You seem to disagree with me, then you cite a story that perfectly illustrates my point: When the dentist knew he had a famous millionaire father paying the bills, he inflated the treatment program.

Eli – Bob Jones was canned by Michael Jackson. He's carrying a massive grudge. I wouldn't believe a word he says.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 1:47 pm ET

Simba, see my theory about impairment. It could be Michael did not really know what happened at that time. If I remember well, Jones was fired in 2003 or 2004? Just as there are signs that recently Michael's associates wanted to control the access to him, it could well have been with Jones. I would not be surprised of MJ was lied to by his associates, in order to get Jones away from him.

Notwithstanding, Jones disqualified himself by writing the book.


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

**SIMBA**
I did read your post very carefully, and you did illustrate some significant points. However, I NEVER EVER categorized MJ as a "street addict" and haven't even WRITTEN the word "CRACK" EVER in any of my posts. Chopra DID contact MJ's family to arrange an intervention- Chopra said it himself and MJ disappeared when he caught wind of it. His brothers and sisters, with the exception of Jermaine who was in complete denial, BEGGED Michael to get help; PLEADED with MJ to go to rehabilitation. Randy and Janet dropped to their knees and pleaded with him merciless (IN TITO's WORDS) to go into treatment. His parents were willing to sign him into involuntary psychiatric treatment- but again, Michael begged THEM NOT to do if he promised to get it together. MJ was out of Chopra's reach, that's as far as it goes. I'm not sure if Chopra could have done more; the bottom line is that MJ simply did NOT want treatment because he did NOT believe he had a problem. And I believe that MJ believed he didn't have a problem; that makes sense. His doctors and enablers around him told him that he didn't have a problem, because it was "prescription medication". Yes, you certainly can become a drug addict . **NOTE SIMBA: THE FULL TOXICOLOGY REPORT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOT NOT NOT BEEN RELEASED- SO THE REMAINING DRUGS IN HIS SYSTEM HAVE YET TO BE ANNOUNCED; IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT THERE, THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ANNOUNCED". They only announced the benzos and the propofol. When the investigation is closed, they will announce the opiates as well. The coroner did state that the "rest of the toxicology report will be announced when the LAPD releases the security hold". If there wasn't anything left in his system, then hence, there would not be "the rest of the toxicology report". A toxicology report only reflects drugs and substances and it is indicative to the coroner's statement that the tox report goes much deeper than the benzos and propofol; it's NO secret that MJ was hooked on painkillers- opiates. And many of them; which is why he needed to use multiple aliases to gain access to opiates. I'm sorry, but it's true. Again, MJ is a victim, NOT a criminal. Poor soul. IHMJ xoxo


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 16th, 2009 2:22 pm ET

Simba, read Tito's newest interview. He forgives the doctors. This will be hard to swallow for quite a few people here. Tito did not have a problem admitting there were serious problems and that the family tried to intervene. I believe what he says. I applaud him for not taking part of the mob lynch of Murray et all, though it is difficult for me to swallow as well.


pat davis   September 16th, 2009 3:15 pm ET

Hi All,

Been really busy so I missed 2 days of blogging? What's new?

Oprah Winfrey is airing her interview with Michael Jackson today. The interview was originally aired in the 90's. She is also going to discuss her feelings about his death. The show is titiled , "Oprah remember's Michael Jackson". Should be interesting!


Maria   September 16th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

Simba, my point was very simple. If a regular Joe is ill, he receives medication, the doctors make a profit and that's all (so of course they have a financial motivation, like you said, but it has a limit, because the patient's money is limited). If a millionaire celebrity is ill, he attracts doctors who overprescribe, agree to off-label use and inflate the bill on a much larger scale and for a longer time. Even if nobody here would touch the issue of the other medications, there's no regular Joe who can afford to doctor shop to get propofol for insomnia and no regular Joe who can afford to get a personal doctor to inject him every night at home.


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

**MARIA**
EXCELLENT POINT. The LAPD and the DEA have clearly stated several times that they have NEVER heard a case of home propofol abuse or addiction; only in a medical setting where medical professions were addicted. That is why the case took some time to begin investigation; they did not have a direction to go in.


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

**ELI**

You are absolutely right; you summed it up very nicely. Tito is one of the Jackson Family members that have significant credibility and genuine commentary regarding Michael's death. He did state that he cannot go into the details because of the ongoing investigation but I did hear him say that he forgave the doctors involved in his brother's death. What is quite sad, but true, is that Tito said that he will never have peace with MJ's death because he knew that it could have been prevented. I think it was obvious, if you read between the lines, that he was eluding to Michael himself couldn't save himself. So sad. On another note regarding your earlier post: I didn't see all the names on the hitlist but I can see where all of them make sense; I know he was good friends with Uri Gellar but it's my understanding that it was Uri Gellar who introduced MJ to Martin Bashir- and we all know what direction that went in. IHMJ xoxo


pat davis   September 16th, 2009 4:22 pm ET

MourningMJ,

I have Ghost on a VCR tape. I actually watched it a few days after Michael died, I have a DVD/VCR entertainment unit. I love the dancing in that video (of course)! I didn't know the character Michael played (the mean guy) was actually based on a real person.


MourningMJ   September 16th, 2009 4:34 pm ET

Hi Pat-
Ghost was absolutely fabulous! One of his most brillant pieces of work, but very low key. YES, the heavy set caucasian man who plays the "leader" of the neighborhood crowd who tries to bully Michael in the Ghost video is suppose to be Tom Sneddon- that monster who failed miserably TWICE to convict MJ of those absurd allegations (although we already know that MJ never even went to trail in 1993- NO EVIDENCE). Yes, when you watch it again, if you do, you will watch in a whole other perspective.


simba   September 16th, 2009 8:59 pm ET

MourningMJ – I didn't say that you used the word crack. I'm saying that Oprah, in her interview with Whitney Houston, tried to equate Whitney's situation with MJ's, and Whitney is most assuredly a crackhead. Oprah isn't the only one who does that. I'm sorry if I wasn't clearer.

If you didn't call MJ a "street addict", as an addiction specialist, in your posts, you do tend to fall into the jargon of those who deal with street addicts and alcoholics. Just my opinion.

As for the tox report, the coroner announced the drugs that caused MJ's death. I know he used painkillers – he was in near-constant pain. But those painkillers didn't kill him. The benzos and propofol did.

According to you, the Jackson's moved heaven and earth to get help for Michael. But everyday on these blogs, posters castigate the family for not doing enough. It's near impossible to help someone who thinks you're interfering in their personal freedom – been there, done that. I don't fault the family for failing.

But Chopra is a physician. If he couldn't do anything with Michael, he could have gone to the state medical board, or the DEA. He could have gone to the offending doctors directly. I've worked for doctors and I know, that like police officers, they don't report wrongdoing by their colleagues, even when someone's well-being is at stake. But usually they don't go to the media afterwards, claiming to have done their utmost, either.

Eli –
"I believe what he says. I applaud him for not taking part of the mob lynch of Murray et all."

So Tito forgave the doctors. Well I guess Tito is a good Christian, and it's his Christian duty to forgive those who trespass against him, which has nothing to do with the justice system.

To characterize the investigation into MJ's death, and Conrad Murray's part in it as a "lynch mob" is grossly inappropriate. If this were a lynching, Murray would be dead, not relaxing at home under a security watch.

MJ's death was a homicide, caused by the action of another. MJ's problems with prescription drugs don't change the fact that SOMEBODY KILLED HIM. That person needs to be called to account.


#1mjfan   September 17th, 2009 12:25 am ET

what i don't get about deepak chopra is...if he knew all along mj was an addict, then why the hell didn't he do anything about it?? he never staged an intervention or get the other jacksons involved to try and save mj's life. instead, he's [deepak] going on and on how he knew something the whole world didn't know and going on and on about the private conversations mj had with him regarding his prescription drug use. and yet, deepak still did nothing to help him??? he's [deepak] a DISGRACE as a doctor and esp. to someone who was supposed to be mj's friend. there's no need for deepak to go on every single network and news media bragging how he knew this deep dark secret and yet....did NOTHING to try and help mj.


#1mjfan   September 17th, 2009 12:29 am ET

i was also addicted to prescription pills when i hurt my back in late 2005. thank god, i was only on them for about 2-3 weeks and forced myself off of them. havne't been on them since and i highly encourage anyone who's taking meds or in the future, pls. do your research on them. chances are, your doctor won't tell you if the pills can be addictive.

but what i also don't get about deepak is...didn't he say that he'd be more than happy to provide the names and contact info of all these greedy doctors to the lapd?? why hasn't he done that yet?? he's off on tvland and giving interviews out the a** and yet...haven't provided any legitimate info for the investigation??


Lori in Massachusetts   September 17th, 2009 3:35 am ET

This so called friend is starting to get on my nerves almost as much as Diane Diamond. Staying in this spotlight even after Michael's death riding his coat tails for fame. I flick the channel now when I see deepak or Diane come on. Enough already, we all know MJ had a problem. My take is he had a problem as many do and the enablers should pay the price for taking his money and commiting manslaghter. All the Dianes & Deepaks should just SHUT UP!


Tink   September 17th, 2009 9:12 am ET

MourningMJ – I tend to agree with your statement: Michael’s childhood pretty much sumed up to be (in MJ’s OWN words)- school, studio, beatings. If the only happiness you know is climbing under the arms of your big brother at night time to protect you from the father who is suppose to be your safety net, then of course it’s not impossible to think that there may be something to the magic of prescription medication that takes you to an unreachable, untouchable level you have never reached before.

I am a Boomer so I have been watching the Jackson’s right from the beginning. To add to your statement you are right MJ never had a childhood that is a fact because yes he has told us that himself. His childhood was traumatic for him being told he was ugly, had a big nose, etc. but so was his adulthood IMO nothing in this respect for MJ ever changed. In his youth his looks were criticized by his father and in his adulthood nothing changed in this respect either again his looks were always criticized because certain members of the media (and they will know who they are) made sure that this onslot ALWAYS continued. And now it astounds me how certain members of the media have the audacity to now criticize JJ for this yet they themselves fail to see that they too are no better than JJ was in this respect. Everything MJ loved that gave him any peace and solice in life (Neverland) and I mean everything with the exception of his children yet I believe it was Gloria Aldred who tried to stick her big nose in that somehow regarding the baby dangling incident and his inordinate talent and musical genius was taken away from him. Now again IMO whom I blame the most is the Chandler father and this is where whatever issues MJ did have escalated followed again of course by the Arviso mother whom with their false accusations then took away his dignity and self respect tainting his reputation which he pretty much had given up his childhood for and put his entire heart and soul into to attain and with their false allegations thereby also taking away at that time the ability to do what he loved the most in his own words – perform and help others not to mention the fact of the income he lost as well due to their lies. As far as the Chandler and Arviso boys I am finger pointing at their parents (oops sorry they IMO are not parents and I could not put on this blog exactly what I really think of them) using their children as pawns for their own greed. These two issues were again IMO not about the alleged molestation of these two boys but rather the “Molestation and Extortion of MJ” hey but no one wants to talk about that and this is where MJ found out who his REAL FRIENDS were at that time. Many of them when asked point blank (and again they will know who they were) should have been forthright and stated the following: The MJ I know would never do such a thing however most of them simply skirted the issue instead of standing up for him. Now back to the two boys 1 has to live with the sins of the father and one the sins of the mother and they are both now grown enough so that there at present is really NO EXCUSE for either of them to have to anymore. I am sure most people would forgive them that (it was the parents fault) so I guess it remains up to these two boys as they are grown men now if they want to live under assumed names and in obscurity the rest of their lives (like MJ had to) and live with the heavy burden of living with lies and the sins both their parents placed on them or they can set their own souls free. The Arviso case was pretty obvious what was going on there but many are still sitting on the fence about the Chandler case including RJT you mentioned. Couple of points because it always has been just common sense no lawyers required to figure it out is first and foremost ask yourself if your child was molested would you take money? Second point in both cases details of what occurred are sketchy and a child molested I can tell you never forgets even very minute details and last but not least in the Chandler case when asked to come forward to testify the reason for not doing so was according to the Uncle was fear of death threats which is also the biggest CROCK of you know what because I am sure that if necessary even Tom Sneddon would have gladly provided him a police escort to the courtroom once he stopped salivating. So now we have a boy that will not come forward to testify to put a supposed alleged molester away and in so doing then by not testifying is what then going to allow said molester to continue to do so to other boys? and furthermore the only molestation of both these boys (and I use this term in a different context) was by their parents and how I know for a fact is that this never occurred is that I myself was molested and if there are others on the blog who were as well they I am sure will tell you the very same thing. I am not in denial about MJ’s addiction problems because he himself told us that nor will I try and make excuses for him either, nor am I judging him because I am not the one who had to live the nightmare that he had to but it is these two cases that were the catalyst to it all. The people involved are the ones who will have to live with what they did or didn’t do, what they didn’t say, what they could have done and didn’t it will now be their burdens to bear. As a fan all I can say is I always greatly admired and respected him, believed in him, loved him and will always continue to do so.


MourningMJ   September 17th, 2009 10:10 am ET

**TINK**

Wow, I am quite moved by your coomentary and I could not agree more. It was very well said. Every DEDICATED MJ fan should know the facts of MJ's trials and tribulations, not just hand selecting the his wonderful moments. For those who are unaware, the 1993 settelment was paid out by MJ's INSURANCE company, NOT his own pocket. The insurance company insisted on setteling- as well as MJ's lawyer at the time who is now the infamous Johnny Chochran. MJ would have poured millions and millions of his OWN dollars for years of legal battle to fight/contest a civil lawsuit (because we know that criminal charges were not filed) and MJ did not have the heart or sould to continue through that nightmare; he did NOT want to settle, but under legal and insurance pressure, he did. I'm confident he regreted that decision probably more than his decision to participate in the Bashir documentary. The blood of Michael Jackson is certainly on the hands of the Chandler and the Arizo Family as well as many other monsters that surronded his life.
As far as Joseph Jackson is concerned I firmly admit that I completely misjudged him. I am in no position to forgive him for what he did to MJ AND the rest of the family for that fact, but if you are a parent, like I am, and you lose a child, (but I have not), not just a child, a child with children of their own, I cannot possibly begin to measure the grief and heartache that JJ is suffering through. Just because he laughs and smiles, doesn't mean he doesn't feel the grief of a child loss. This is a child that Joe created from his own flesh and blood; I would NEVER ever overlook or cosign what he did to his family; it is dicpicable; however, I also would NEVER ever assume that JJ is not designed or capable of feeling anything either- I can only assume, hopefully, that JJ is just designed to cope differtently than me. And no one can try to convince me that he didn't try to save MJ the last weeks of his life either. JJ said it several times between Larry K.-to ABC nightime. LaToya said it on Barbara Walters last Friday- Jermaine said it, Tito said it, but even after all of them I wasn't convinced until I read that one of MJ's security guards said "Yes, JJ use to come over and we were instructed not to let him in on the property- per MJ's orders". Just seems to me why would all of "these people" be on Joseph's side? Doesn't make sense- what makes sense is- The aforementioned individuals are not on anysides- and the truth doesn't take sides because it's a side all by itself. IHMJ xoxo


MourningMJ   September 17th, 2009 10:34 am ET

**SIMBA**

Hi! I have fun talking to you! I had to read your blog three times because at first I thought you were taunting me, then I thought you misquoted me, but then by the third and last time I read this I finally concluded that you were just clarifying and adding in some very significant, important commentary. But this is why I read information over and over again so I have a clear idea what direction I am going in.

Okay, so with MJ: An Addict is an Addict is an Addict. Addiction does not discriminate; it is a democratic process that takes hostages. It preys on the weak; it eats you up alive. My point of that, meaning, You can be: Lia Taylor, Liza Minnelli, Robert Downey Jr., Melanie Griffin, River Phoenix, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Lindsey Lohan, James Brown, Janis Joplin, OR John Doe, Mary Smith or even Michael Jackson. What is a street addict? What do you compare that to? A "home addict"? Was MJ a "Home addict" because he died in his bed? No. "Street Addict" is just a term some uneducated fool came up with to minimize addiction for the upper class. MJ demnstrated the CLASSIC signs and symptoms of addiction. His own parents wanted to committ him to psychiatric treatment; in other words, this would mean that MJ's parents would be his temporary guardians again- Could you imagine what the WORLD would think if MJ was committed and his parents took over guardanship of him again? (It would be very similar to the Britney Spears situation). NO WAY would MJ EVER allow this to happen. This is when MJ convinced his parents and the rest of his family that he would bring a "sober coach" with him to London to watch over him. MJ manipulated his family into believing that he was actually okay and there was "nothing really to worry about". (Of course, we all know that not everyone in his family was convinced, but we all know that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink). Anyway, we all know he was really "okay". Of the 7 billion humans on this planet, only TWO knew that MJ was using surgical medication the morning of June 25th- MJ and Murray- His addiction was almost, ironically, a talent for him as he brillantly kept it a secret from the world (our world, not the MJ world). As far as Chopra goes, Chopra insists that he probed MJ for the names of the doctors but MJ refused to give him names. I have NO reason in the world to believe that Chopra refused to help MJ- that doesn't even make sense. Chopra did arrange for interventions, he did inform MJ's family (one of the reasons that fueled Tito and his siblings to raid Neverland which they DID), but MJ disappeared conveniently out of Chopra's life. It's said that alot of people are pointing the fingers at Chopra, the family, the doctors- but I still believe that MJ believed that he didn't have a problem. Now his entourage is sweating blood because it's not the fans and the family they have to answer to- it's the FBI, LAPD and DEA. Justice for Michael.
IHMJ xoxo


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   September 17th, 2009 10:41 am ET

Deepak,
Thank you for your inspiration and your love.

Dancing the Dream by Michael Jackson (1992)

At some point Michael considered Deepak a close friend, for he choose to thank him at the same page as his mother, in the first pages of this book.


MourningMJ   September 17th, 2009 11:38 am ET

**ELI**
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT...
I WONDER HOW MJ WOULD FEEL RIGHT NOW IF HE KNEW THAT WE WERE BADMOUTHING SOMEONE HE WAS CLOSE TO.


Maria   September 17th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

“Street Addict” is just a term some uneducated fool came up with to minimize addiction for the upper class.
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Thanks for pointing this out, MourningMJ.
A person who takes opioid painkillers for recreational use isn't more honorable than one who takes heroin. On the other hand, people imagine the "street addict" only as an irresponsible loser who dumps his normal life for his curiosity of seeing how pleasant it is to get high. But one can be overwhelmed by a personal loss or shock or stress and seek relief in heroin or alcohol, while another can seek relief in sedatives and antianxiety medication. The best way is to avoid all of the above, but not everyone is strong enough to do that.


MourningMJ   September 17th, 2009 2:10 pm ET

**MARIA**

BRILANTLY SAID!! It only makes sense to drop the term "street" out of addict- It so ridiculous and confuses people which results in complete misinterpretation for the meaning of addiction.


Sherri   September 17th, 2009 9:01 pm ET

I just feel really empty right now we have truly lost a super star someone that was so well loved a chased after that he had no time just to be everyone watch as this train wreck was happening no one tried to stop him try to help him, now everyone is saying someone should have helped him. This quiet shy man was so lonely that when he was in public he feared for himself and his 3 children. He was so wired after performing and being in a place that truly only made him happy that he could not rest after doing his shows he had to have injected in to him, these people who were around him played on his fears to the point that they took his life over so they could control the situation for their own benefit Until He did'nt know anything or anyone that was near him in the I know he was misunderstood and thats the saddest part of all people took away what he worked so hard tomake they took control of his every move and then they killed what was left MJ was a very beautiful person the world has lost a Gianticsuperstar I now realize that he truly was a special being I will miss him forever The world does'nt realize what i huge hole in our humanity and the loss of a true and loving man God Bless you MJ rest in piece as you could not in life. enough said


simba   September 17th, 2009 10:10 pm ET

MourningMJ and others – "Street addict" is a person who uses drugs you buy on the street. That includes people of all classes. Big city police departments regularly run stings where they arrest comfy suburbanites who swing through the ghetto looking for illicit drugs.

Now we all know those people aren't prosecuted and sent to jail like poor people, but I still consider them street addicts because of their drug of choice.

I still refuse to lump people with medical problems who become dependent on the drugs prescribed for them in with thrill-seekers who don't have those issues. Heath Ledger and Michael Jackson suffered from insomnia, not boredom.


dawn   September 17th, 2009 10:39 pm ET

I agree with you Carol – deepak and his son can hold hands


Tom   September 17th, 2009 11:09 pm ET

What is a controlled addict? Is it someone who doesn't take drugs when they don't want to? Or only takes small amounts? Doesn’t that contradict the definition of addict?


Deb Looney   September 17th, 2009 11:59 pm ET

I think those around Michael were purposely giving him drugs to control him, and THEY got him hooked on those drugs ..and I believe AEG was in on it too!!! How high this will go, just wait and see...JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL....MUST PREVAIL!! We miss you Michael...and we will be right here for you always!!


Tink   September 18th, 2009 12:05 am ET

MourningMJ – Hi thanks for your reply I am not the best at blogging but appreciate the encouragement to do so.


tom.london   September 18th, 2009 9:13 am ET

Just a few simple observations.The only people i know who have a 24/7 doctor are those who are dying or have a very serious medical problemI.If Michael was passed 100% fit to do the O2 shows, who has his test reports,blood,heart,etc,etc?, he must have had extensive tests to get insurance cover.Was Michaels problem so great that he needed a doctor not only to administer his drugs but mainly to ensure that Michael doesn"t overdose.Perhaps the doctor made a mistake because otherwise he must be a fool to give up $150,000. a month.I think that Michael had a drug problem that was under control after all he was in rehersals and ok but he could not handle the pressures that were steeped upon him by the organisers.You needed to be an athlete to do a MJ show and he had not worked for the previous 20 years and he needed more time but people see $ signs.People are looking for a scapegoat and of course you cannot be arrested for pressurising someone.Just my thoughts and woulda,coulda,shouda,comes to mind.RIP Michael.


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