We hear that President Barack Obama is tweaking his health care address to a joint session of Congress right up until the last minute. Will he push for a government-run health care system? Will he reach out to Republicans in an effort to reach a bipartisan compromise? We'll have the latest reaction to the speech tonight from both sides of the aisle. Larry's guests include Sen. John McCain, White House Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett, and Rep. Barney Frank. That's tonight at 9pmET/6pmPT!
And we want to hear from you:
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Do you think a Iranian government-run health care system is the way to go? Do you think a Nigerian government-run health care system is the way to go? Do you think a Chilean government-run health care system is the way to go? Do you think a Obama government-run health care system is the way to go? My answer is no.. Government run is not the issue.. But Obama run is.. He is the type who can in one hand waive surgical scalps at children still in the womb and with the other have a piece of cantaloupe for breakfast.
Obama is not proposing we all switch to a gov run health care system. Just have a public "option" for those who cannot afford private insurance. This would encourage competition with the insurance industry and lower all our premiums. Only the health insurance industry would object to that.
The questions asked from Illinois are ridiculous. There is no other like US in the world. If the subject was in religion, President Obama could
have been deified by now as a god. But because it stems from politics
Republicans and their allies must work hard to kill the health proposals
of President Obama, if they still wish to be relevant as a political party after Obama's tenure.
To Joe G. of Illinois,
Do you want Big Corporations to continue to run Health Care?
Big Corporations are spending lots and lots of money to keep things the same and it's not because they love you and me so much. Corporations are running major ad campaigns feeding fear for those that don't have the time or inclination to check the facts.
Remember, it was Corporations that were out of control that brought us to our knees on the economy issues. As long as Corporations are not involved the Government is US, we are the government, for the people by the people. There is a role for government intervention in providing us with a different system for our health care. Corporations are scary and if you haven't learned your lesson yet you may have another chance if Corporations have their way with Health care.
Government health care systems seem to work pretty well in other countries. Everyone gets taken care of. Some claim that the US health care system is the best in the world but the health statistics do not support this claim In fact, the US trails many countries in longevity, infant mortality, obesity etc. Possibly the only realistic argument against a government system would be the massive unemployment that it would cause.
To get an idea of how a government system would work compared to the present free enterprise system let's look at the armed forces. They are government controlled and seem to do a reasonably good job of killing people within the Geneva Convention limits (whether that's good or not is another story). When private enterprise, in the form of Blackwater, was introduced in Iraq the results were not pleasant. The Blackwater mercenaries were not subject to any of the rules imposed on the government controlled armed forces. And the Iraqis asked them to leave.
Shame on every American that has allowed, "BIGOTRY" "NEGATISM" "HATE" "BIASNESS" to influence their minds on this matter.
Even the most stupid fool knows that the opposition are only playing politics, "AGAINST THE BEST INTEREST" of their own constituents that helped them get elected, only because they are forced to follow party line
What kind of a "MORON" would it take, to accuse the President of the United States of America of fostering "COMMUNISM" and "SOCIALISM"
What kind of a "MORON" would it take to be too "BLIND" to see that all the negative adds are paid for by the lobbiests that represent the big insurance companies.
What kind of a complete raving idiot would believe an add designed and constructed in a way to have us believe that a "CANADIAN WOMAN"?? advises the "MORONIC IDIOTS" that are to stupid to check if she is really a Canadian person?? Which she is not and in fact really comes from and lives in Florida, where the add was concocted by the Insurance company and the GOP party in Florida.
Trust me folks, the Insurance Industry and the GOP have only one interest when it comes to the health care issue.
"A SELF SELFISH MOTIVE THAT REALLY ONLY SERVES THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDA" "NOT ONE DAMN THING FOR YOU"
DONT BE FOOLED FOLKS, THE GOP AND THE LOBBIEST THEY REPRESENT ARE DOING THE SAME THING THEY DID, WHEN THEY SMEARED JOHN KERRY, WITH THEIR SWIFT BOAT B.S. and to the shame of our nation they succeeded because the majority of ordinary folks bought into their lies and deciet.
Joe G. From Illinois, the "NOISE" you are atempting to make is just too obvious for most intelligent folks.
The President has been accused of being a SOCIALIST, or COMMUNIST.
YOU ARE THE WORST OF AMERICA.
YOU ARE A RUSSIAN PROPOGANDA SPEWING LIAR.
DENY IT, IF YOU CAN. "MORON"
~~~ ((( No Affordable Public Option = No Health care Reform ))) ~~~
Hey, where are the lobbyists for the average American citizen??? I see the AMA lobbyists, the insurance companies lobbyists, HMO lobbyists… so how about us??? After all, it’s our tax-dollars they are using! Where is our word?
I would Like CNN to investigate how much each Congressman is being Paid by the Lobbyists!
@ Gerald Jolly
I agree. We need to take to the streets and demonstrate, supporting our president. He can not fight everyone in Congress. We must be an active part!
I say making lobbyists illegal!!!
I would like CNN to determine how much each lawmaker is being paid or receiving special treats by the lobbyists!
Joe G. from Illinois, do you really think that your feeble atempt to degrade the President is going to work.
It's really just too transparent to everyone that you are a "COMMUNIST SYMPATHISER" and a "SOCIALIST" that obviously has supported the Iranians, the Nigerians, and the Chilean, agenda, and I'm sure you know of what you speak of, because I believe your a "PLANTE" placed here in America to disrupt our political point of you.
"SHAME ON YOU PROPOGANDIST"
WE HAVE YOUR NUMBER!!
Mandate that all Politicians, Senators, congressemen, all politicians have he same insurance that all americans have and pay for their own insurance the same as I do for myself and family. Said simply, they are the same as I am. WHO THE H??? DO THEY THINK THEY ARE, that makes their life any more important than anyone else?
A long time ago we as a nation decided that education was too important to leave to private industry to ensure everyone has access to a reasonable and acceptable level of education. I believe the time has come to make the same decision about healthcare.
People have issues with public education, and private education is seen as better alternative. However, everyone in America has access to a reasonable K-12 education and can get significant support for a college degree. Those who support vouchers want tax money to support families making $100,000 a year at the expense of those making $40,000. If they truly believed in the private sector they would be screaming to end the public school system all together, but I don’t hear anyone doing that. Finally, let’s see how well the private school community would do if their numbers triple. The flood of students entering private schools would dilute the market and the superiority of private schools would be lost.
I believe the same thinking should apply to healthcare. There are people locked out of the system today and many more who postpone seeing a doctor because of the costs. I think this reality is immoral in a society like the United States. A combination of public and private healthcare providers, based on the current education system, is the only way to reduce costs, provide fair treatment and make our country economically strong to move into the future.
I find myself on an unusual side of this argument. I consider myself a Republican and frequently support their limited government views but I am finding their ‘black and white’ attitudes to current issues very troubling.
To those of you who are afraid public option might allow for abortions. Let me tell you... Women have been preforming abortions since the beginning of time. The only difference is now they can go to a MD for that help instead of a back alley hacker!!! If a woman wants to rid herself of a fetus, she will!! End of Story!
Just put your energy, mouth and money in adopting all the children in orphanages now called group homes. In Southern California, we do not have any more room... we desperately need people to start adopting!
A government health care program run by trial lawyers is a bad idea....unless physicians are offered sovereign immunity and union protection as is for other service employees of this country and in other countries with government run healthcare programs, cost control will not be achieved. THe trial lawyers who Obama does "not want to upset" are supporting a govt run system so they can capture more clients for frivolous litigation against hospitals, physicians and pharmaceutical companies.
Not only MDs have to purchase Mal-Practice Insurance. Everyone in my field must do that too. So whats the big deal? I do not know where you are getting your information. I work for the local government and do not need to carry Mal-practice insurance. Only in the private sector must I have Mal-practice insurance..
Insurance companies discriminate against people with pre exsisting diseases, they have extremely high premiums, they have outrageous deductibles. My premiums doubled in one year without me using my insurance. We need REFORM and we need it NOW!!!!!!!!
I would like to know on what base are the Tv.channels are reporting
that the most of the people do not support the President's health care
reform.The President has won the election,mainly because he promised health insurance for every one. These people did not changed their mind.Sense the election even more people has lost their healthy insurance,SO? WHO ARE THEY talking about?
Lots of the Rep.Senators are still complaining about the1500or so
pages they could not read it. What a shame that they can brag about it !They do not deserve to represent us,well they do not represent us they just get paid without doing their job.
Respectfully: Zia Barney
I can't imagine how anybody could oppose Obama's health coverage plan. If you do, I want to know what vitamins you take that you're so sure you'll never get a devistatingly expensive illness!!
damm right we need reform now–
Obama is doing a magnificent job in his health care speech tonight! Presidential, firm, just like he needed to be. He took on the death panels and other lies, called them the lies they are and laid them to rest. And did not back down on the very necessary government-run option for those who are too sick or poor to afford private insurance at any price.
He fought the haters and won!
If Obama's coverage won't cover illegal residents, WE will still be paying for them when they go to the ER for a sore throat or cough. That doesn't make sense to me. That issue HAS to be addressed.
It's not a government run health care system as the naysayers do say.
REgardless of your party affiliation, watching Congress tonight during the speech on health care, I can't help but wonder, why did we vote for the majority of these Men (?), half of them looked bored, and the other half, looked asleep. I was disgusted, to think these are the people running our country!!!!!!
Obama's final slam dunk was to invoke Ted Kennedy and the character of the American people. Obama prevailed tonight.
Amazing, the "Republican response" was more of the same disinformation: still trying to scare us with that "government-run healthcare" lie
Wow, Obama sure made the GOP looked like selfish, spoiled children.
He was AWESOME!
I have had it with the GOP disrespecting the president. It is time for moderates to call them out on it.
Tonight... the president explained his plan; tonight, the republicans engaged in diatribe.
My interpretation of Pres Obama's speech was this would NOT be government run, just government aided when needed!!! So much for Dogmatic and Conjecture verbiage!
A speech of clarity by Pres. Obama! Now lets hope Congress is not paid off by lobbyists to vote another direction.
I am currently watching Larry King live and listened to the republican doctor who absolutley irritated me.
It seems that the republican party does not put much value on a persons quality of life, especially those with medical issues. I state that with certainty with the speach from the Louisianna republican and Gov Shwartzeneger workers compensation law changes that he made that has left a group of people not recieving care and suffering more than need be.
I think that the President is right on and atleast cares for the well-being of the people he represents.
@ arlene & james hussher these politicians have been in office FAR TOO LONG & WE NEED TO VOTE THEM OUT AND GET NEW BLOOD !!!!!why are these repubs so afraid of this president ??? they do not have any options of their own....also @ charles richard..... this should be the first order of business, they need to pay for their own healthcare.. i pay for my own as well...
John McCain lost. Why do we still have to see the same people from the past 8 years on TV all the time?
Our speaker of the house did President Obama a grave disservice by not using her gavel to quiet the heckles and jeers during tonight's speech. It is disgraceful that the American Congress cannot conduct itself with more dignity and decorum at such an important time in our history. It was apparent that the vice president could not take on this role, given he was the President's running mate.
Anything government-run as opposed to market-driven is a bad idea. I come from a former communist country – and believe me – you don't want any government-run health care. Back in my country health care was government-run and supposedly free – not only it was horrible care but behind the scenes it was also not free because everyone had to give a bribe to the doctor to get attention and have a surgery scheduled. And of course, you don't have medical insurence to cover for health care related bribes.
I'm not tryint to say that this is what Pres.Obama is proposing. My point is that anything that is not market-driven eventually loses its "honestly" to the consumer and mutates in some form of money or power driven thing.
I am all for public option!! As a small business with only 4 employee's, I feel health insurance is so important. We pay 70%, so that our employees will remain healthy. This is the most expensive cost for our overhead. I would rather pay that 70% to the government so that ALL people could have health care!
Senator Mccain if this was a partisan speech, please explain how you draw this conclusion?
Mr. Larry would you please ask Senator McCain what exactly happens now, The employers always choose Insurance companies yearly based on the services and benefits, sow what is different adding public insurance is added to the mix
Been a Reb. all my life,not always proud of my party,But tonight after President Obamas health care speech iam a proud american & i believe what he says,because in my heart of hearts i know hes right. And so do most of my Rebublican friends & family. Its sad to see my congressman & others right wingers not standup for whats right.
As American's we need to support OUR President, to hear a member or member(s) of Congress heckle OUR President is unacceptable; get he or she out of office. We may disagree but RESPECT OUR President!
The Republicans should be ashamed of themselves on the way they acted tonight. Didn't they know that was televised for all of America to see.
Hi Larry, I think that the presidents speech to the nation was great!
Larry,what I don't understand is,this congressman yelling out at the president,"you lie" That was so dishonorable,and so very disrespectful.That was not a town hall it was the President's address to the nation.What a shame that this person in such a high position,could not control himself. Can he prove what he shouted?
Please Larry call this man out,thank you.
What is this McCain "unfair advantage" by the government Dogma? You mean because the government is now involved, the insurance companies can no longer make the trillions of dollars they are used to... well just too bad!!!
Ask Mccain if he cares about people, oh yeah, then he goes on and on and on about trillions, deficiets, $$$$$$$$$$$$$ , trillions, he cant shut up about $$$$$$$$$$$$$. No wonder he lost, with his wacko death panel friend.
I completely agree. We need people that will resist being paid off by lobbyists.
Actually, I would like lobbyists to be illegal!
The President stated his position clearly. It is astounding to see individuals in Congress who cannot seem to understand the English language. President stated the public system could be an option that would pay for itself by premiums paid. The post speech rhetoric continues to misrepresent intentionally to continue the fire storm. Senator McCain on Larry King right now is mis-stating the obvious. He is part of the problem that will continue to keep this great country ignoring its citizens who are in need of health care.
did you move here for a U.S. education? This is government run from k-12.
If private insurers were able to provide affordable healthcare for everyone, why hasn't it been done to date? Thus, the need to have some type of public option. Medicare is a gov't run option. Hmmm....
I just want to make a comment on what John McCain just said. He said that Obama claims that if you want to keep your current health care plan, you'll be able to. McCain disputes that by saying if your employer decides to go with the public health care policy, then you'll have to change. Well, no kidding. I currently have health insurance through my employer. It's a different plan than the one we had when I first started working there. Did I get to stay with the old one? No. Did I have a say in the new one? No. My bosses decided that. And that won't change whether there is a public option or not. That's a stupid argument, McCain.
YESSSSSSSS stand your ground President Obama. I absolutely loved when he talked about their scare tactics and those same people trying to scare seniors are the same who tried to stop medicare and medicaid, the same ones who hijacked religion years back. Vote them old fogies republicans out. We need to support this president. How disrespectfdul for one of them to scream out. The dems never did that to the republicans. Those repubs been there to long. They are afraid of this president because hes a worker, and he gets things done. He moves so fast their head spins woohooo rock on OBAMA
Right off the bat, Senator McCain comments that President Obama's speech was "partisan." Unbelievable!! Republican members of Congress sitting disrespectfully sideways in their seats, refusing to listen with open minds to the President of the United States. Senator, let's talk "PARTISAN'!!
Republicans don't believe in bipartisanship unless it's other people coming over to the conservative, Republican point of view. You ask, Senator McCain, "why can't we all sit down and work together?" I don't know, Sir, why can't you? Or, isn't the question, "Why won't you?" The body language of the Republicans didn't send the message they are willing to work with anyone or anything that isn't "Republican."
I don't recognize this America anymore. And, the America I see, as exemplified by the demeanor of the Republicans in Congress, isn't one I'm proud to be part of.
PLEASE keep having JOhn McCain on to continue using this man for his divisive and selfish nature. He is the most passive aggresive man with a narcisstic ego. Do you not realize that all of you journalist ,commentators and reporters are the biggest part of the problem with you micro-managing of every negative comment you can manifest.
Of all the rich nations in the world we are the only ones without affordable health insurance.
What the one thing that we are number one at is get bombarded by drug companies commercials. If your unhappy you could take this happy pill but it might kill you but you will die happy.
I am a freelance photographer so I pay for my own health insurance. I pay about $450 a month with a $7500 deductible. I have never reached my deductible so the monthly payment to the insurance company is all profit for them. For this amount of money the insurance company will not cover my left leg because I broke it when I was a kid, They wont cover my left shoulder because I dislocated it in college. They wont cover the left side of my face because I shatter my left cheek bone in a cycling accident. So for all that money the insurance company covers half my body.
Yes we do need a public health plan.
Look around we are that fatest nation in the world.
Listening to John McCain talk, seemed to almost be the same as what President Obama wanted. Why then, when the Republicans were in power was nothing done towards insuring that all Americans have health care. It seems that the ones that keep pushing for reform are the Democrats (e.g: Clinton and Obama) but the Republicans end up vetoing and nit-picking everything apart until nothing ends up done about it. Unfortunately, it just seems to be more petty bureaucracy and there will still be millions of people who will die or claim bankruptcy because the politicians are too busy worrying about their political future.. Maybe now is the time for everyone to take a leap of faith and save health care reform.
All Americans should have health care coverage. There are many without the ability to afford health care. I do not see how they will have health care without a public option. Currently they go to the emergency room, which is a huge cost to the health care system. We also need to provide the ability for people to get preventive care. England provided government health care after WWII at a time when they had a huge debt and a country to rebuild, it angers me that republicans don't get it. I also watched how well Medicare worked for my mother and father. I was forced to change doctors three times during employment changes in my private plans. Considering how corporate greed has put us in the mess we are in right now, how can people think that the corporate mind of our insurance companies have our best interest in mind?
Example we spent higher percentage of our income over the last 15
years on personal computers and cell phone, and seen their prices declined
year after year. However the price of technology in health care increased
due to market distortion via the employer health insurance system and
If we forfeit the employer health system, Medicare, Medicaid and leave the
option for the American people to buy health insurance (if they choose to
do so) or "pay as you go" health care system; no doubt the price of health
care will decline dramatically. That said, if we created an insurance
system that cover the purchase of a new Laptop, cell phone, or desktop, we
will be screaming right now about the lack of affordability of PC in
colleges, homes and or kids.
Maybe the best health care reform for Obama administration, is to revoke
the public and private insurance system and let us have "Pay As You" (PAY)
Go system for the full health care we use up delivery of the service at
the clinic or hospital.
The Bush administration had 8 years to improve health care, not much happened... Obama's plan might not be the best, but lets get started and do something good for US citizens!!!!
communist governments do not have checks and balances. The people at the top want to keep all the money, just like Corporate American CEOs. Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan all have government option or government run health care and they are happy with it. It is profoundly different than a communist government
Great Speech by President Obama.
I agree with Sen. McCain and President Obama that there should be (and will be) a new healthcare plan by the end of this year. Why can't the representatives, that are being paid by us taxpayers, work together to come up with something that will include all Americans. Not just those who are lucky enough to have been able to keep there jobs thru this economic crisis.
I was laid off after working for the same company for 24 years. My husband was diagnosed with a terminal illness the following month. We are now considering the possibility of declaring bankruptcy after struggling with medical expenses and the expenses of daily living. We believe that we should have an option- other than the option to loose everything we've worked a lifetime to accomplish.
CUBA health care system kicks our asses. Plain and simple.
I am so glad that the man heckled, because it shows the entire country how totally stupid and classless the opposition has become, really lacking. I would not want to be that man.
I must commend Sen. McCain on the stand he took regarding the unprofessional outburst from the republican congressman. We need to rebember that we are Americans first and but learn to disagree without being irrational.
The Republicans acted liked spoiled children during the speech, I'm sorry, they always act like spoiled children.
I thought the President gave a wonderful speach tonight – I am an RN and have seen what our present system is doing to patients and my own family members – I have seen people loose everything they have to pay for health care – one of these was a doctor I worked with who was refused health care coverage. Before he died he had to sell his house and its contents – he was a physician and his wife is a lawyer.
WE NEED CHANGE -
Larry.... Sen. McCain did not answer the question to you about Sarah Palins latest lie......also Pres.Obama needs to call the liars out who have intentionally hi-jacked healthcare .... its disgusting..... It was not partisan........ My husband is on Medicare we just love it so I,m used to Government run healthcare.......I dont have any Im too young for medicare make to much money for Medicaid and can,t afford a decent insurance policy............Oh I have,nt lost faith in President Obama..... he covered all bases.
why does john mccain just repeat himself all the time ? he never has any new ideas... HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we know there is a big deficit... thanks partly to bushy baby and his WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and dont forget those WMDS !!!!!!!!!! happy trails john mccain, you need to seriously retire.....
If US companies go to government run plans to reduce there healthcare costs would that not make them more compettive on the global market?
In response to President Obama's speech on health care, I as a registared republican am so ashamed at the behavior of the so call "Elected Republican" who attended tonights speech. They are certainly not representing me or my beliefs or wants out of health care by there lack of respect to the president or even his proposal. It is elected officials that I saw, that do get great health benefits and probably great kick backs from the health system lobbyist to behave as they did. They showed no sympathy for those of us who do have insurance and unfortunately illness, not to our doing, but often to bad genetics that does leave us in financial distress. Shame on those who could not even show a "very small clap". Les take away their coverage to fill in the gaps of finances to help proposed plan, lets see a cut in their large salaries also. They sit their so haughty and arrogant like they are better than everyone else ... they need to take a good look in the mirror, because I will be taking a good look at who they are and I will do my part in welcoming them back to the public they are to serve and not reelect.
Bob Marley said, "Until the color of man's eyes is no more significant than the color of a man's skin ... there will be no peace" . To paraphrase this on this issue, "Until the color of a man's eyes is no more significant than the party which elected ... our government will not grow for the good of all". Not Just Politians, or the Wealthy.
I would love to address the Congress and the republican party in person and make my voice and speech to them to be heard. Biblically, "Until they take the plank out of their eye, instead of the splinter in everyone elses" there will be no good for anyone. Republican Party look yourself in the mirror ... if health care is not reformed as far as I am concern, if I loose my home ... part of that burden is due to you, If I die because of lack of health care ... my death is on your hands. Shall a server you a bowl for you to wash your hands now or shall you repent. Answer to your higher power, and I will pray to God to forgive you ... at the same time I am very glad that,"Thus says the Lord our God, vengance is His"... are you ready to stand before God to be judged?
I have not had health insurance for ober 5 years because I cannot afford it. Any plan which allows all American to have health insurance gets my vote.
I was hoping you would ask Valerie Jarrett about the Van Jones saga and her position on his views. Sad that even a legend like Larry king doesn't have the guts to ask the hard questions.
Healthcare is one of the fundamental needs of the family beside that of housing and food. To be dropped from havingt insurance coverage for reaching a maximum $$ in care; to be denied for conditons that are pre-exisiting is to deny one the right to life. If that isn't a concern for every American of every age, I don't know what is.
Insurance rates continue to climb and for those under employed what do you choose: Housing, food, or healthcare? For those unemployed, they go without care.
This reformed healthcare can afford small businesses to thrive and hire more employees. It can afford large companies to reduce their overall cost for employees. This helps the economy.
And for our seniorse, they will not have to worry if they will have coverage, or what medications can or cannot be afforded.
We are the greatest country in the world – yes, I believe we can provide basic insurance covreage for her citizens, and indeed, we should.
President Obama gave an outstanding speach to Congress and the American people for Healthcare reform.
I am a retiree and I presently have great health insurance, but I fear that at any moment I could lose it. My wife has a pre-existing condition and I don't know if I could even get health insurance for her.
I support President Obama's action to get affordable insurance for all American citizens.
Hi i love obama hes great great ideas..... so on so on.
aside from that i was watching lary king and a add made me a hard working American born and raised cry.
Im half Palestinian yes im Arab and proud of it , but this add stated we as Americans should vote for some kind of energy law or something and they said this . " we should stop paying the terrorist money for oil" .
this was a government funded commercial ...... im so disappointed cnn would even air this ? feed back please,
I think there has been a lot smoke where there's no fire. We do need healthcare reform and we need it now. I heard about a second choice besides a public option....a co-op and I like that one. Let me tell you my story and why I support healthcare reform: I am an independent voter, so I have no political agenda for getting a healthcare reform bill passed. FORGET THE POLITICS! I have a humane reason for getting a healthcare reform bill passed. I have good healthcare even though the costs keep rising while the benefits are decreasing. However, I moved to North Carolina from Virginia this year. My health insurance does not cover us in NC; therefore, I must drive four hours round trip to see my doctors in Virginia. Our 35 year old daughter, who was a wife and mother of a young 7 year old son, passed away on July 29, 2008 due to an aggressive form of breast cancer. Her health insurance company denied her critical care when she requested to be treated at one of the Cancer Treatment Centers of America because it was out-of-network! They are well-known for their very aggressive approach to defeating cancer. Instead she had to rely on local care which only covered the conventional treatment for cancer. Her coverage had been reduced to exclude out-of-network coverage when the company she worked for had to decrease costs. So you say no government run healthcare but what about decisions being made by insurance companies. It's all about the money, so how much is a life worth? Secondly, our self-employed, uninsured 25 year old son works hard but can't afford the cost of insurance. He hasn't had a physical or received any healthcare at all since he became ineligible to be covered on our insurance. His wife works two part time jobs and doesn't have any healthcare either. Every American should have access to good universal healthcare. They shouldn't have to worry about coverage based on which state you live in or whether your doctor is in network or out-of-network or if you have a pre-condition. That's the bottom line! I am asking our Congressmen and women to please pass healthcare reform NOW! It's been on the back burner for too long! I also believe that a lot of the outrage over healthcare reform has been fueled and funded by the insurance companies. I am not deceived by their tactics. There are too many people who are either out of work, self employed or working part-time that do not have access to good healthcare.
I have a son who is 26 with a family who have high insurance premiums through his and his wife's jobs. They have tried many different ways to figure their company's insurance and still pay very high premiums with high deductibles. I also have a 19 year old daughter who works as a cashier for $7.25 per hour and can not afford to have insurance because the gas station where she works does not have insurance and she can not afford to pay for coverage. She no longer applies to be on our insurance so she does without. What is she to do????? I believe that President Obama is headed toward helping both my children. I do not understand why the republicans have to show their ass. Is that because they have a good paycheck and insurance so they do not care about the rest of us. That is why I support President Obama and pray that this country will read and learn about what he is trying to do and not just put in their 2 cents because he is a democrat.
Oh Ben shut up, we will save when all the Dr's stop doing surgery that people do not need and hospitals stop overcharging. We can save just by returning to being honest, do you know how much medical care is totally unneccessary?
Thank goodness Obama stood his ground. I m so happy. Yes, Angela, I agree...how disrespectful to the president.
Why didn't you ask John McCain why he was critical of the President for mentioning "Death Panels" but not critical of Palin for her (false) story claiming they exist???????????????????
Be a journalist and unbiased.
You thanked Mr. McCain for always being available to talk, of course he is, he was the one who lost the election and has yet to accept that, so he will always be there to criticize.
CNN NEEDS TO BE 100% UNBIASED, OR JOIN FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a stupid question. Didn't you listen to the speech? Haven't you been following the factual data about the plans being offered?
I agree with President Obama that some type of public option be availabe for those that can't afford insurance companies plans. I am also shocked and ashamed of congressman Wilson from South Carolina that called the President a liar. I do believe it is time for him to quit politics when he cannot respect the presidency.
First, shame on the Congressman that disrupted the President's speech. An apology is due. Thank you Mr. President for speaking out on health care reform. I believe a public option is necessary. I support and the President.
It is not a government plan. The public option is only for those who don't have health insurance. Conservatives will block our President no matter what he does. They are just racists.
Mr King, I am tired of all the disrespect to the President of the United States. Ive been in the US Army for more then 20 years. I f I would have even looked at my supervisor in the wrong way I would be subject to punishment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. How can we put up with all this disrespect, like telling the Presedent that he lies ON NATIONAL TV. where is the accountability starting with the House and the Senete. we can disargee without being disrespectful and hold the public to this standard.
I think its a great plan for all of us its a win win for everyone.Im for the public option GO OBAMA!!!
Recommendation for supporters of public option.
Google "Barbara Wagner"
It is okay to spend billions on a war, but not okay to spend money on our own US citizens for health care. If we had the money wasted on contractors in Iraq, we could fund the health option.
Do I think we need another government health care system? No. health insurance reform yes, and malpractice reform, yes. That would save billions of wasted dollars.
I agree with Carol above, we need new blood in congress. Get these politicians that have been in there far too long out, get some young fresh minds.
I am really tired of everyone using the word "scarey', it sounds so idiotic. When did everything get to be so "scarey".?
I believe that it is clear that the President is not always right, BUT HE IS STILL THE PRESIDENT and regardless of his COLOR, he must have the respect that his position deserves. The republican congressman that had nerves to call the President a liar while attending a speech should apologize to the president and to the amercian people immediately. We cannot afford to have adults acting like children in the Congress of the U.S..
Yes the government plan will be a success because President Obama will lead it . l have faith in our President, and to the ignorant Republicans who think about themselves, they need to answer my question, why cant l have the option for a government plan, right now my family cannot afford healthcare, and if the president has an option for me to be able to visit a doctor why would l not take it, everyone deserves coverage, not just the selected few, Amen President Obama is giving us an option to visit a doctor, and to those happy with their insurance "stay happy" this fight is for my family, the poor, who also need coverage, and dont have an affordable option, we too pay taxes, we too deserve healthcare.
Dear the King,
Nobody does it better than you. Why John King when you've so many subjects to nominate?
McCain said what he can and that's about it.
Doc Stein, you can't love the president and agree with him and hold opposite POV concurrently.
Congressman Frank, you rock! You're always one of my favorite Congressmen...not that way. I won't give you a wink, but I'll give you two thumbs up! You sir are almost as good of a public servant as the King is to the media.
I think the Prez showed a lot of anger in his voice tonight in his speech on healthcare. He sounded violent at times. Ive got to wonder if any of the insurance horror stories he retold, had been substabciated?? A lady that had been turned down because she had acne??? OH PLEASE SPARE ME!!!
How can John Mccain defend the status-quo, Health Care should not be for profit. My wife and I pay more for Health Care than we do for our home mortgage and homeowners insurance combined. When I needed a heart procedure I had to pay 20 percent of out of pocket expenses. It makes me sick to hear of the Health Insurance CEO's making as high as 25 million a year while denying care and charging deductibles for needed procedures. When I watch the President's Address I could tell which seats have been purchased by the Insurance Industry, I guess when the Insurance Industry pays for your seat you remain in it. I just wonder how many politicians have to pay out of pocket expenses and are denied needed procedures when it comes to their care.
I am a health care provider. I would like to ask Americans..do you really understand what is going on with your health care insurance now? The answer has to be a resounding NO! For those who have insurance, there are co-pays, there are also deductables. Procedures and treatments are controlled by the insurance companies and there is no doubt about that. When you get your bills, you pay your co-pay, and still get a bill for the remainder based on the way the insurance claim was filed. This is rediculous.
We need a change. Partisan- Politics needs to go away and America needs to get on target protecting its people from disease and other illnesses. We can't be the strongesst country when we have a broken health care system and yes, an education system that is also broken.
Bottom line...STOP THE POLITICS. Get behind this President and move this country forward now and for the future.
Come on! I'm sure you've been told before that Ben Stein is NOT AN ECONOMIST! The man misrepresents himself, and has shown a huge disregard for scientific fact. There's only one reason to keep trotting him out: you think he's entertaining. Increasingly he grates on your viewer's nerves.
I think that its a shame to have such a great President, in President Barrack Obama. To be met with so much opposition and racism disguised as patriotism, and a real love and concern for the suffering Americans all over America, In order to undermine what our current president is doing to include all Americans , and not just the wealthy elite. I am not against those who have money. I am against those who care nothing for other people, rich or poor. Can we as a nation for once look beyond our PETTY LITTLE PREDJUDISES, SELFISH POLITICAL AMBITIONS, AND GREEDY BIG BUSINESS MONETARY GAINS, and do whats right for all. Can we truly be OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE!
Yes. Its way over due. I don't recall any Democrat on the left of the isle ever behaving rudely toward President Bush during a speech to Congress, or any other American President. The sources of such outburst in the halls of Congress most certainly should be censured. I'm very surprised that the Sergeant at Arms did not escort the fool out of the building. "Liar" he shouted to our President. Surely other distinguished Republicans will cull their ranks of such bums.
not ben stein again....@ angela, touchee.he is rich so he doesnt have to worry about health care..
i belive the replubican leaders in the past have left bad taste in our mouths. it has been so long since we have had a honest leader in this country. this is something that i honestly believe this president will not give up on. he has listened to the country and he can relate to many of us who have no health insurance. i have had 3 heart attacks with no insurance coverage. i cannot get health insurance because of my pre-existing heart disease. needless to say i have lost everything i worked my entire life for. how can anyone oppose President Obamas health care plan. i live with the fear of another heart attack with no insurance. it is cheaper to bury a person than it is to obtain insurance. lets give President Obama's health care plan a chance to save lives.
Its amazing that republicans remained mum when baby bush was in office, its shocking to bigots that A black man is in office, lets be honest. Those who are holding on to the status quo, should be ashamed. Those who oppose him should learn from him, owe I forgot, he is black.
What about that loser Joe Wilson. I was taught that you may disagree with someone but you do it with respect. I use to be a republican and would one day like to come back to the party but I will not be apart of a party that has Joe Wilson in it. I spent 10 yrs serving the country in the military and was always respectful of all the presidents. This fool, Joe Wilson, should be flogged!.
yes definitely the President's plan is for american people. it is fired up and ready to go. but still the "no"" party is upset and their so called plan sucks becoz their plan is not a bi-partisan plan and why did they wait until today to share their plan. they are not serious about this issue. so Mr. President needs to call them out. i am proud today and happy that i have a president like Barack Obama. wethere they like it or not HE IS STILL THEIR PRESIDENT AND HE WILL BE FOR 8 MORE YEARS.
America needs to listen to what Ted Kennedy said "Don't let the perfect be the evil of the good"
I'm wondering if you can ask Dr. Paul, what else can we do now that the bailouts are after the fact?
We should have a govt.option for just the reasons the President mentioned.Your question seems to give the impression that there will be "govt.run hc"&that's not what the President said.Your question is misleading,just like all the crap out there now.We will never get a bipartisian hc bill because it would go against the very core of Republican code of promoting big business.I am a senior & I resent the ads that say I won't be able to get insurance.The truth is that I won't be able to have ins without a govt.option,it's that simple.As for the congressman that shouted out at the President during his speech,not only is he disrespectful,he is un-American & should be kicked out of congress for his unethical behavior.
Ben just made the hysterical claim that a public insurance option would kill the for profit insurance companies . . . oh if that was only true! Insurance is the only "legitimate" business in this company (but we see this all too well with Racketeers, Loan Sharks and the worst of our criminal society) that bets against its constituents and not only refuses to pay up if they loose, but also change the odds! If a collateral benefit of this Bill could be to revamp the insurance ideology that would be marvelous! As one who has suffered from long term illness, and property loss, only to suffer again at the hands of those to whom I paid considerable premiums, I hold no allegiance to protecting any such insidious moneywhores!
The government should not be involved in health care. The problem with health care is lawyers and insurance companies. Between these three they are draining hard working middle class Americans. They also are the cause of major business seeking other countries to run their Business. Example a lot of tax dollars are spent on CIA, FBI, Secret Service, Border Control, All military branches, State , County Sheriffs, Local Police and 911 still happened. If the is to on government has control of the health care in any way the prices will rise faster than the postal stamp. I'm 5th generation in America and love this country. I see this nation going down the drain fast. What kills a nation is a nation within. Example-Just today I heard several people after getting there pay checks complain about the taxes taken out and then say now I have to pay for my car insurance and home insurance. I will be broke in two hours after working two weeks to get this check. Most Americans are tired of being told what to do, how to do it and when they can do it. To get health care more affordable is to
work on the lawyers and insurance companies. We have become sue happy.
I stand behind the president 100% on heath care reform, further why is it that republicans are always repecting the president?... and then turning around and saying that he did not say these things in his effort to reform health care... "Larry I believe it's just another one of the republicans ignorant scar tactics" to keep scaring off Americans
I stand behind the president 100% on heath care reform, further why is it that republicans are always repeating the president?... and then turning around and saying that he did not say these things in his effort to reform health care... "Larry I believe it's just another one of the republicans ignorant scar tactics" to keep scaring off Americans
I am a registered Republican, but would say Obama had a great speach. I did not vote for him, but support his ideas on health care reform. I am a recent retired goverment worker. I get health care as part of my retirement package. As a husband and father I have always made sure all of my jobs have had health care coverage or worked more jobs to pay for it. I felt it was part of my respnosibility to make sure my family was insured. Over the years I worked as many as 3 jobs at a time to have health care coverage. I was also layed off in the 80's and was on welfare at the time for 9 months. I made sure I found work as soon as I could. I got a job at 1/2 of what I had been making after 9 being unemployeed for 9 months. We made it. Not everyone can do this. I was lucky. I listened to Obama's speech and can see what is going on with the republicans. They had control of the goverment for quite a few years and did not get health care reformed. Maybe they should give a little now to the demecrats. It is give and take. I would agree with what he said and will be writing my congress man who is repbulican to vote with Obama's plan.
Hello Larry, I think the President is heading in the right direction.
Something must be done
I'm so tired of hearing Republicans and others asking where is the money coming from to pay for it.
If the same pharmaceutical companies that are selling the same medicine to other countries would sell to us at the same price, that would help a great deal.
If doctors would honestly work towards helping americans as much as they raise the flag and count their dollars, we could accomplish anything!
Is John Boehner Golf Course Tan paid for by the Insurance Companies? No one can afford to golf that much.
Senator Imhoff won't even read the Bill, Sounds like a 3rd graader who refuses to do his homework.
Just how the hell did these worthless people every get elected to Public Office! Campaign Money from Insurance Companies.
Up until I listened to the speech tonight I was for President Obama's plan. After listening I now have my doubts. Two things stood out, one is I do not agree with forcing people to have to have coverage. The other thing I have heard nothing abou...t is the absurd cost that hospitals and doctors charge. Yes the insurance companys rip off the american public, but the doctors and hospitals start this process. Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a weeks stay in the hospital is just absurd. Until the medical industry is controlled health care reform is just not possible, period!!!!Read More
I believe whoever yealed LIE to the president while he was making his speach was disrespectful of the office of President. That person should not be in congress. We don't need people who do not repsect the office of the President in congress.
Tonight when I heard President Obama I was not only moved by his words, but I felt hopeful for the welfare of our country. I have not felt this way since President Kennedy. We need change. Doesn't everyone see that ? We have people dying because they have no money and they live and work and pay taxes in one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Don't we have any compassion for others? Why does this have to be a power struggle between parties? I watched President Obama's speech on television and I watched the faces of the members of the House and the Senate. It is war with them. What about : "united we stand, divided we fall?" I have a great idea – How about funding the new health care plan by eliminating all the frills, pensions for life, medical care for life and other "advantages" that our congressman have? That should do it!
Just seen a commercial, about canadian health care, lady said she was canadian , yhad to get surgery in the us , because of the wait, in canada, granted , there are people l know do go there , cause of surgerys they do not do here. But if u have serious ailment it goes to the top, of importance. Mind u elective there is a wait. In canda it is difficult to get a family Dr,cause they were going to the us to make the big bucks, thats what hinders are medical service.
Larry must have a golden parachute, it seems the majority of viewers are sick and tired of his biased antics. Does he represent CNNs views/opinions?
I cannot afford insurance for my family, I do not qualify for Social Security because my gross income is $900 per month. My wife and I have become very ill and our medications and Doctors visits alone are over $1,200 per month. We have borrowed to our limits to survive. Without a public option the Insurance companies will continue to rob us and remain very wealthy and give unbelievable bonuses, retirement pkgs, and live exuberantly. The so called "trigger" plan will be pulling the trigger on my family. I need help now and have pursued all avenues to no avail. I am a Native American Indian, who qualifies for free health care, if I choose to be segregated and move to a reservation hundreds of miles from our family and they would not cover my family, just me. Yes segregation still exist, so much for civil rights.
How do you explain something to someone who’s not listening? Simple!
Those opposing Healthcare Reform want to see Obama fail – even if it means
sacrificing an opportunity where they would be the beneficiaries. You see
how they reacted when he wanted to encourage the nation’s children. The
far right thinks this is a game to be won or loss. Without a Public Option
there are NO winners. “ALL” of our premiums will continue to double every
three years while insurance companies deny those with pre-existing
conditions. Insurance Companies will get bigger and bigger as they pat you
down for every dime you have like “Dee Bo” from the movie Friday – until
your house and all of your savings are gone. And, those without insurance
will simply not go to the doctor for preventative care because they can’t
afford it. Then you and I will end up paying ten times as much when they
return via the ER.
– Then the mass Exodus of Business will begin like Moses and the Israelites.
– Then Unemployment will rise to higher than levels during the “Great Depression.”
– Then local municipalities and even states will go bankrupt from lack of tax revenue
– Then The government will print even more money in an effort to prevent the inevitable
– Then Unmitigated inflation will create hysteria
…and the GO (pea) brains will blame it all on Obama.
I have a family of four, I recently lost my job in August and as my medical insurance. I beleive in what the President says because I can not afford the insurance for my family even now that I am working in a different field. The low cost is just what we need. Now; I dont see the republicans putting forth a public option to help us out or to make it more affordable for me and my family.
Words are important. Reform is about
government regulated health care.
Waste has to oversight.
Cathy, how can you say you were so very proud of the prez and then turn around and say the congress gets so many advantages and frills?? HE CAME FROM THE CONGRESS!! And only he knows from WHERE!!
What's all this fear of the "Public option?" The government is already in the insurance business. No, not medicare, the life insurance busness. And guess what? private insurance companies are still alive and kicking.
The Servicemembers' Group Life Insurance Program was created by congress to provide life insurance to service members who would not be able to get commercial life insurance due to the extra hazards of military service The program is overseen by the VA, but administered by Prudential Insurance company. Most of the time, SGLI runs like a private insurance company and is completely self sufficient, but whenever the number of death claims exceeds the civilian mortality rate, the government pays the difference.
This public/private solution allows millions of service members to get low cost coverage without impacting private industry.
To Peggy Stevens,
My heart goes out to you and your family! I, too, am unemployed and haven't had insurance for more than two years. I haven't had a female exam in almost two years and every ache and pain scares me "to death." I know that a car accident or a catastrophic illness would be a death sentence for me as I have no money to pay for $10,000 per cancer treatments . . . or even a trip to the emergency room. It's too bad I don't have a bank account with all the money my employers and I have paid to insurance companies over the past 35 years that could cover those costs!
Those who oppose health care don't think your son's or my situation could ever happen to them. But, more than 200,000 people a month are losing their jobs. How can unemployed people afford Cobra which costs as much or more than rent or mortgage? I had to give up my home when I lost my job. And, unemployment benefits only last so long.
Americans can give millions of dollars to charities but they can't support health care reform which seeks to provide medical care for all of us! They're willing to pay thousands of dollars to insurance companies so they can be denied coverage when they most need it. I don't understand.
But, I do understand trying to protect yourself. Still, Americans have given over their intelligence to the fear-mongers who don't care about our well-being - just about the health of their bottom lines or their own terms in office. There is no way the millions of us who have lost our jobs are going to be re-employed. Without reform, the cost of health care for all of us is going to come back to bear on each of us in one way or the other.
Impeach and censure Congressman Joe Wilson, REPUBLICAN, South tCarolina. Conservatives, who are deeply in the pockets of the insurance industry, are going for the kill to ensure the President goes down to defeat. It is only about the REPUBLICANS securing their JOBS to fight another day. If the other party suceeds with real reform...they REPUBLICANS will not gain a majority in the House and Senate. This is their Waterloo. REPULICANS and right-wing conservatives do not care about the public – you or me. It's about the preservation of their financial well-being. We, The People, need to encourage our representatives in Washington to "go it alone" if necessary to change the status quo.
Republicans in the House and Senate still trippin
They authorize billions for tanks and weapons
Making collateral damage the explanation
For the loss of so many children
Yet, access to health care can’t include a public option
Can’t afford to pay for it is the reason given
Even though the insurance companies agree they loss if it’s open competition
They probably banking on us not to pay attention
That’s why they use scare tactics and play politics with the President’s legislation
We voted for change from the old status quo policies
Equal pay for women and stable economy
Plus, a crack down on Wall Street and credit card agencies
Just a few accomplishments from his young presidency
A man worth over 100 million still fighting for decency
He understood bottom-up is how America will stay wealthy
Which led him to treat everyone with respect and humility
Washington, D.C. could use more like Ted Kennedy
It’s time to mobilize against the stale GOP
Their only contribution is opposition to any policy
Scared of the significance of giving the president this victory
They would rather build schools and hospitals in Iraqi than their own country
When the truth is health care legislation will not only get us healthy
But create jobs without always using our military
It amazes me that 2 side agree there is a problem, but can't agree what it is or how to fix it. This process reflects how divisive we are as a nation (old vs young, black/white, Republician/Democrat, gay/straight, rich/poor, North/South, etc). There must be compromise or the destruction of one over another, WHY? Have we not seen enough of continouse disagreement from the Middle East? Yet we as a Nation try to impose a democratic process on the rest of the world and we can't do it. We talk, but don't practice it.
I think it is time to remove all the old stuff shirts in Washington who act like brats, not children because children can usually find compromise and play together. They are an embarrasement to a civil society. Their actions are more personal than political.
I just lost my job and have no insurance, COBRA wasn't even an option, but who can afford COBRA anyway? Our plan changed 4 times in 4 years and I did not have an option in what I got. We must do something in ths country.
Joe G-Il.In case you didn't notice,we don't live in any of those foreign countries,but I wish you did.We don't need people in this country who are Anti-Ameican.I hear Uraguay is a nice place to live.I'm sure you would fit right in with the rest of the Communists there.We don't want you here.
Ben Stein again? he's very wealthy, lives in Malibu ...doesn't understand what working people & the poor are going through...let's hear from a middle class person ...or a working person right from the street, a blue collar worker,,,they are the best !...they understand the hurt, the pain, sm of them have 3/4 jobs..24/7...
What I've seen lately from the town hall meetings and pulpits most people don't seem very American or patriotic. We refer to the person we ELECTED to our highest office as Nazi, Communist, Socialist, and anything to reflect personal bigotry. ALBEIT WE ARE AMERICANS AND PROUD. HA! HA! HA! What was the phase of our Native Americans.... who is it that speaks wifh "forked tongue"?
I sat here and listened as some criticized President Obama's speech. They went so far as to the length of his sentences and having the termidity to call a lie a lie. Well I for one appreicate it when someone speaks to me directly and clearly. I feel as if he is recognizing the plight of the common man, such as myself. I find it ironic that the very people who have free and complete coverage, that we the common man pay for are so diligently fighting against what is so obviously needed in this country right NOW!
You don't have to agree with the President's plan, but you are required to submit to the people a viable solution in its place. The republicans are constantly hammering the public with fear tactics and undercover threats. Enough! You have my attention what, specifically do you propose happens with healthcare?
I pay over $300 a month for healthcare coverage for myself and my 2 children. I had to drop my husband from my plan due to cost. I would drop myself and just cover the children but my plan doesn't allow that. Shortly after dropping my husband from my plan he was laid off his job. Needless to say he has no medical coverage at all now. My healthcare cost is 10% of my annual income and that does not include copayments, precriptions, etc. President Obama is trying to offer me an alternative. Mr/Ms Republican what are you offering? I want a successful solution! Make it so Number One!!
2 michele j.thank you... not only do they spend billions & billions of dollars, they dont ask us if we want to spend all that money on the wars and rebuilding their countries.... how about rebuilding OUR COUNTRY ... our roads, bridges,schools,hospitals. no lets shut down schools, museums,hospitals, music programs and anything that affords our children a future.... CHARITY STARTS AT HOME-U.S.A......but we really need to clean house in d.c. look at some of these people in the house & senate, they are olddddddddddddd !!!!!! definately time for new blood and a fresh pair of eyes. lots of them.............midterm elections... if i see a name on the ballot that i know i will not vote for them...what harm can possiblly happen that has not happened allready ????? ill take my chances with someone new !!!!
Anybody who does Visine Eye Drops commercials can't really be taken seriously!!Ben Stein is no more an economist than my dog is.
Republicans have done very little to help the middle class or below middle class Americans. Ask them, the Republican Senators and Congressmen, if they would be willing to give up their helathcare
provided by our government to be in the same place as those Americans who either cannot afford healthcare or have a pre-existing
condition and can't get healthcare. I think we need to take
their healthcare away from them if they vote against this.
But it isn't a government run system.. it may turn out to be five percent. Having said that the majority of Canadians are very happy with our public healthy care system and we are still working to improve it (It is not "socialist". We can still buy private health care.)
With all the hits American has taken in recent years I truly believe the United States will emerge a stronger and better country if reform goes ahead as it should.
With 20, 000 death a year and half of person bankruptcies from lack of insurance, and one of the worst infant mortality rates in the modern world despite spending far more than other countries who wouldn't want reform?
It is shameful that special interest groups would try to scare seniors with falsehoods.
I don't doubt that Americans will be thanking Obama generations and centuries from now. He is the right president for the right time. Don't let lunatic fringes drown out the truth, or let you do what is good and right as a nation.
Congratulations folks, tonight after reading the 129 posts on health care I am proud to say that 96% of you have not been "BAMBOOZLED" by the rhetoric and B.S. of the GOP's and the health care lobbiest that have saturated the air waves with their "BIGOTED" "BIASED" "LIEYING" "PHONY" and "FALSE" accusations.
Tonight I can actually say that "I AM PROUD TO BE A FREE AND LOYAL THINKING AMERICAN" that will not be swayed by politicians that only have their own personal selfish agenda that they care about.
"THREE CHEERS FOR AMERICA, AND THREE CHEERS FOR AMERICANS THAT HAVE THE SPINE TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT FOR THEIR RIGHTS"
TWO WORDS FOR ALL OF YOU.
P.S. "DID'NT MICHELLE LOOK GREAT TONIGHT"
BY the way, JOE FROM ILLINOIS!!
WE KNOW YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE.
William,I don't know what speech you listened to tonight,but apparently it wasn't the same on the rest of us listened to.
Gerald Jolly, I agree with you 200%.Maybe there is hope for America after all.By the way,just fornd out that the jerk that yelled"you lie"at the prez.was South Carolina Republican congressman.We need to work to get him removed from officeor at least NOT re-elected to his seat.
Ann-Virginia, I completely agree with you.
It's one thing to disagree with the President, but it's just not acceptable to disrespect him.
As to the "BOOB" from South Carolina, just look at the results on this blog tonight.
Even if the GOP do not support the President's initiative, in good conscience, THEY, THE GOP, SHOULD SANCTION THE MEMBER FROM SOUTH CAROLINA THAT CALLED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, A LIAR, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO PROTECT THEIR OWN INTEGRITY.
THE GUY IS A JERK, BECAUSE ONLY AN IGNORANT JERK WOULD BEHAVE IN SUCH A NO-CLASS MANNER.
Hey Larry, great stuff from the American Medical Assn's immediate past president (at least I think I caught that caption right? Dr. Nielsen? listening from the kitchen as usual...) She gave you the most incisive 2 minutes or so of commentary on this mess that I think I've heard so far. I wanted to go out and kiss the TV when she started talking about how nice it would be if we could put the genie back in the bottle, and didn't need health insurance, and could return to the old days when patients would just pay their doctors, but "that doesn't work when your daughter gets leukemia. We must share the risk." That's the situation—and the moral imperative, as the president has said—in a nutshell.
I don't think a government run anything is the right way to go but do believe in what the President spoke of regarding the changes he will not give up – no pre-existing condition limitations, no cancelation when you have a serious illness, no lifetime limits on care. My husbands employer provides insurance that we pay part of the premium, we also pay close to 20% of our net income out in costs not covered or copays for medical, dental, and optical care for a family of four. Something needs to be done, we and many others, cannot afford to continue to pay out the nose for care after we've paid for insurance.
Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst is another example of bigotry and a lack of respect for the Presidency, currently occupied by President Barack Obama. As I saw and heard this while listening to President Obama's address, I was appalled at this lack of respect. And after Senator McCain and others in the Chamber expressed similar reactions (stating they have never seen such disrespectful behavior before), I can draw only one and only one conclusion" This Joe Wilson, from Southern CA has bigotry in his veins........
I hope Congress censures him in some form or another......
an apology to the President will not be enough........Shame on you, Mr. Wilson!
Correction: I wish to correct a typographical error in reference to Mr. Joe Wilson, a representative from South Carolina, NOT Southern CA.
I stand by my previous comments.
In fact, I never know that an eccentric man like Joe Wilson can ever live among where the human bean seat for this great Country decision-making. This is a devil living among human. Moreover, if this is a representative from one state in my great Country America it must be a worst state neither if he is still remain to represent them. And if he had been sent by my republican, strongly speaking I quit from republican finally today because it had be a long time republican had been fooling people of American but now that the secret is uncover anymore under a pretending that nothing happens to the republican. It is a painful and wasted time with a party that hates progress because of their longer throat.
re: comments about the government run postal service.
People should give the United States postal service more credit. With the huge amount it saves me shipping to Canada I've been able to buy far more products from more companies from America. I do regular business with a company in Georgia who make a one of a kind product. I'm told the "clip and ship" online option has allowed them to do far more business with their international customers. The more I can save on shipping the more products I can afford to order... good for the international customers and good for the American economy.
best of luck with health care reform.
Larry, you need to do your homework before interviewing guests.
Tonight, Senator McCain stated that republicans did not have a
part in any of the bills going through congress. He also stated
that republicans did not have any of their amendments included
in the bills being considered. Not true! Republicans got 161 amendments included in these bills. These people need to be called out. Their good humor masks their real intent. It is to mislead people and get that message across to the largest number of people. You have provided that platform to Senator McCain. and. therefore, contributed to the misinformation out there.
I watched the President Speech and I still don't want Healthcare Reform.
Larry, just a few moments ago, I tried to visit the website of Senator Joe Wilson to share my disdain of his conduct during President Obama's globally-televised speech. He not only disrespected the leader of the free world, but also us as a nation. The website is down. Hats off to John McCain who, although may not agree with the president , would never disrespect our country in such a manner.
Yes we need a public health option, its time that ALL Americans be able to take care of their family's with dignity. President Obama cares for the peoples well being not like other that did what they had to do to line other people pocket and to fulfill their own agenda's It is our time we live in America not a 3rd world country. YES WE CAN AND YES WE WILL HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION FOR EVERYONE. This is the only way to go.
President Obama is not being honest with the American Public regarding health care reform.
1. Senior Citizens will loose. Quality of services will be less.
2. He only gave lip service to Tort Reform which could save the American Public Hundreds of Millions of dollars in health care cost. Democrates are protecting the Trial Lawyers Assocation at Taxpayers expense.
3.While Illegal immigrents won't be included in the Bill, President is not tell us that next year when he and the Democrats tackel the immigration issue they intend to make it easy for those illegals here in the USA to become US Citizens thus being given access to health care. The Congressman who yelled out lier to President Obama, almost had it right. While he did't lie he is just being dishonest with the American Public. He is not a person to be trusted. It is not what he says that it is important, but what he does.
4. President Obama and the Democratic Party Leadership are becoming an enemy of all Senior Citizens. President Obama smoothly talk to us about not have our services affected and at the same time tells us that he wants to set-up a Commission to eliminate waste in Medicare. In other words the beginning of rationed care. Long waits to get MIR, CT Scans, Lab test, surgeries are just around the cornor. Yes he and the Democratic Leadership are quickly becoming an enemy of all Senior Citizens. Watch Out!!!
I have to say that I really liked the Presidents speech what I did not like was that CNN played lots of anti health care commercials after his speech. I do not understand that. I think that doing that was not only unethical but just straight up wrong. That is not showing support for our President it is a show of disrespect and I do not appreciate it. I understand the need for you do give both sides but what you did was wrong. A good debate is fun in some ways but you totally broke the rules in this one.
Ben Stein said if "Public Option" is pushed it will destroy the health system in the U.S. which is the highest in costs of any country per capita and 37th in effectivenes.
Ben, how about FedEx and UPS... they effectively compete against the "Socialist" system of the Post Office. And yet... this has induced the Post Office to introduce... "If it fits, we'll ship it."
I think think this is the best of capitalism... and may the best win... but not let win the monoploy.
In regards to Sen. Mccain's statements regarding employers dropping coverage and selecting the public options. I am a member of PERs. Several years ago, PERs dropped Sutter Health, Health Net, and Blue Shield. The reason these health care providers premiums were unsustatinable for PERs and it's members. People were extremely unhappy about having to change healthcare plans. People who were willing to pay an additional premium for a choice plan, kept the doctors and hospitals they wanted. So far, all of the issues raised against a public option, is currently happening. Employers already chose which healthcare plan will be offered to their employees.
If the present Republicans do not approve this proposed healthcare reform, they will stand guilty of increasing the budget deficit with Mr. G. W. Bush who gave us one trillion deficit of 2 WARS and lost opportunity of providing healthcare reform by increasing costs of healthcare and financial meltdown.
We need to regulate the health insurance express train of increasing costs and inflation of healthcare costs and turnback the clock on 1000 percent increase in costs of healthcare in one decade.
Are you super rich and dont care about fellow citizens who are un-insured or work in health insurance industry who wants to pocket the profit at the expense of denied healthcare by insurance industry???
I am a 38 year old female that works two jobs and do not qualify for health care through either job and I cannot afford to pay $200 a month for health care. Plus I have a pre exciting condition and would get dropped the minuet that I got sick anyway so why don’t you pay for my health care since you do want reform that would get it for me!!!!
We the people demand that that person step down from office that yelled liar to the President this was very childish and not cause for. The thing I cannot understand is why the republicans are fight The president with this so hard what have the republican don for this country but put us in debt. I ask this of the republicans and all of those with hidden agenda what have you done for us lately. I really think they do not want President Obama to succeed because these republican number 1 cant get over the fact that this man is a black man and this black man is leading this once white lead country, and is about to take this whole country in the( right direction) this is hard for them to conceive that it took a black man to get this country back on track. Republican Democrats Liberals and what ever you call your lets all get over this bickering. You may like him or you may hate him this man is for the people no matter what body his in.
@eadie, they should not be called out- they should be THROWN OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! these people are dispicable... i have never seen the lack of respect that these republicans are showing....they are totally out of control..
The government has to step in, My supplement tries to play doctor by telling me what to take and why they will not pay for some prescriptions. Insurance is the biggest legal racket is this country go to any city. The big gorgeous buildings 90% of the time , owned by the insurance companies. They are very powerful and many times crooked, Im a 67 year old single retired female. I was around when JFK fought for medicare, Obama is trying to improve it. Republicans will never vote against big money. I can never remember a new President going through the hell the republicans have showered on Obama. Once again legal racketeers (insurance companies) .
oh now joe wilson is sorryyyyyyyyyyyy , little too late for that pal...out of office for that creep.... oh no - he will have to pay for his own insurance... thats why he is sorry, not for insulting the president of his country !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i thought i would come to Larry king blog to see what people had to say, and i have to say it is unreal. once again all it is is people republican bashing and name calling just like it always is. i do agree that the man who shouted out was disrespectful and inappropriate. what he did was wrong. i am not sure how that translates to all republicans, but...it always does. by the way, he has already personally and publically apologized to the President.
however, up above there hardly any talk of actual substance, or comments on the issues, it is just the same old same old. just picking talking points and conservative bashing! why is that?
if anyone disagrees with the president they are racist and/or stupid. why? does everyone agree on everything all of the time? i mean even Barney Franks, democrat, just said there were things in the speech that he did not completely agree with, and there were things that he wishes he would have put in there that he did not. is he a racist? one of the presidents biggest supporters, because he disagrees with him, is he a racist. when i disagree with something that the president says, the color of his skin never enters my mind? why then is it the first thing that enters yours? have you never disagreed with anyone? i imagine you probably have! but no if we disagree on the particulars we want the whole thing to fail, and all the poor people to die without health insurance. well, by the way, everyone over 65, all children under 21, and ALL low income including people at poverty level are already covered by health insurance. all of them!! so the heartless, racist, stupid republicans are maybe just regular people who want everyone to have heathcare just like everyone else but maybe just have a different opinion on how to go about it. i have never heard so many people talk about how intolerant and hateful and "vile", and so on, republicans are by spewing such hate, and name calling, and stereotyping, and intolerance than you people. unreal!!!
by the way no one is mentioning..
a good chunk of the senators, and congress members who are against the healthcare bill as the particulars stand are democrats. that is why they have not just rammed it through without the republicans, because there are far too many democrats who are against it the way it stands, so they do not have enough votes to pass it in the senate and probably not even in the house.
are they all racist or uncaring, or may there be things about this that is just not as easy as it sounds.
John McCain is talking out of both sides of his mouth. If the public option has an unfair advantage, then people will go to it. If it doesn't, then it is just one of many. You can't have it both ways, Senator! The President laid out how it would be paid for but that doesn't stop him from saying it isn't paid for and the CBO has scored it. He's also off base saying there isn't any bipartisanship, the bill coming out of Sen. Kennedy's committee had over 100 Republican amendments added to the bill and he still voted against it. The President had every right to call Sarah Palin out on her "death panel" lies but McCain still can't go against her. Why should anybody give him time on their air when everything he says can be disputed as simply not the truth!
@ debra, well said !!!!! this joe wilson has served 5 terms... 4 to many as far as i am concerned . he is a disgrace to his office...and his state.
Yes, John McCain never hesitates to talk about the deficits, but..... he's never seen a war he didn't like or a nation that he wanted to rebuild. He was on with John King one morning whining about no bipartisanship (it's a two way street) and the deficits. A few days later, he was on television wanting more troops into Afghanistan and to do nation rebuilding there. It amazes me that the US can build an embassy in Iraq that nobody is using, rebuild Iraq, and do nation building for Afghanistan and probably Pakistan before it is over, but the Repubs say we can't afford health care for our own citizens. I guess he was right during the debate in Nashville when he said healthcare was a privilege not a right. He's privileged because you and I and all other taxpayers pay for his healthcare, but he doesn't want us to have any. I for one will turn off the channel the next time Larry has John McCain on. I urge others to do the same.
Joe Wilson is a disgrace. Typical Republican with lack of self-control. Healthcare Reform IS going to happen so those opposed should just suck it up and deal with it. The ruckus is embarrassing already!! I'm American, but I am so glad I am living in Canada.
sometimes you Americans shock me. In Australia we have a private health care system and we also have Medicare which provides universal health care for those without the means to buy private health cover. It's far from perfect, but at least it provides for the poor and those who cannot afford expensive health cover. The world will not end if you vote to put in place a system which provides for your most vulnerable citizens, nor will it herald some kind of neo marxist plot. It's called social justice and I hope President Obama manages to convince you all of this fact instead of the rather bizarre assertions of some of the conservative media. It's only right
Yes, the People in our Country Need Health Care.It's long over due and many are suffering.
The GOPs have put lies out there instead of truths.They banned together in Nov 08 to be the Party of No.In fact their are GOPs Senators that stated they were going to bring President Obama down
and vote No on every issue.The bottom line is the health care that a few said that will be Obama's down fall.Some stated they didn't read it and they are not voting for it.Bottom Line those idiot GOPs are voted in by their State and vote for All in the Country.If they do not want to read the health care bill than it's time they are out.
They put lies out there to distrust our President.
The things that were said about our President with words as communist,nazi etc would have landed people in jail years ago but they use it like every day natual words.As far as socialists–
How many of these that we put in office are getting paid by lobbyists to vote No for Health care for their campaign and other perks?That is what the American people should stand up and ask when the GOPs had their town meetings and still are having them.
Bottom line the Ins Companies have the GOPs on a short leash.
When the GOPs throw that out there about the Gov Control.Fact is
The Ins Companies have been in Control for years.We all know they are looking out for their CEOs and not us
Like Denise H I live outside the US in a country called New Zealand (pretty close to Australia actually). Like them we have a public healthcare system which is supplemented by a private system. Public healthcare is not perfect but it is perfect for those who cannot afford private healthcare. It means that everyone (except illegal immigrants – except in Emergency cases) are able to be seen and treated by a doctor for any health issue. In the public system wait lists are long and you can be displaced by more urgent cases but at least you will be seen. With a totally private system you will not get seen unless you are able to sign the cheque – and not everyone is in a position to do that. Granted – ER patients will always be treated but it is ALWAYS more expensive to fix a problem once it gets to that level and the patient will end up in debt that may financially ruin them!
I am currently insured by my husbands health insurance which I like, that said. I am also employed but because of the rules/regulations set up I am not able to work more than 24 hrs a week without joining the healthcare provided by my employer. The cost is huge because it is a small group and the coverage is less than adequate because of the high deductible. I am not able to waive the coverage because hubby's job says if insurance is offered I must sign up for it. I would like to see this requirement BANNED so I can work more hours. Why if the work is there should I be held back because of Healthcare? It's ridiculous, can't win.
Joe Willson is what has been happening to the Republican Party.
Wilson like others in the GOP Leaders are playing the games that the people did in SC against John McCain in 2000 with Bush who would be the GOP President for their Party hired people to go after John
Stirring people up with their lies.
In SC they had a bill board saying that McCain father a black child when in fact he and Cindy adopted this beautiful little girl.
SC like so many Southern States 'is' racist.
Joe Willson should be very worried to have a Gov like Sandford who stole from the people to get his itch scratch while throwing the people in SC under the bus while still in office.
No matter what the President had said the GOPs will continue to fight against Health Ins.All in the Demo Party including the Blue Dogs should stick together and get this bill pass.It's now or never.
Bottom Line,The GOPs do not work for the people.They work for the Ins Lobbyists who pay them big bucks and other perks to vote NO.
I am an American citizen and I thought that my parents really went through the racial ordeal back in the days. Today there are more whites hating blacks than ever before. we have a black president and anything, everything that he do, say , walk or talk the whites are really hating this president. If it was a white man last night as the president no one would have disrespected him, now there is a black president and anything is being stated to the black president and all the whites is about to go into an heart attack because a black president is trying to help the so call American more like I hate you black Americans people in such a secret way .
I have never seen so much hatred toward a president , but you know why because he is black and no one really white want to come out and say it but I see it in there eyes and what comes out there mouth, they just do not want you to know how much they really hate the blacks.
The GOPs Leaders want two classes of people.
1 The Rich
2 The working Poor taking America back to the 1930's and 40s who sweat and got no where except to put more dollars in the pockets of the Rich.The Pockets of the Party of No are getting rich by the lobbyists that fight aganist Health Care.
The GOPs say 'we have a plan'.They have had a plan for 50 years.
Their plan of 2009 IS a plan to vote No.
My heart goes out to you Americans after hearing from here what's happening in your country, regarding your healthcare, etc. It sounds all too familiar. I just hope and pray something gets sorted out for the good of all.
God Bless America.
What is this fascination the Republicans have with the name "JOE"
McCain had "JOE THE PLUMBER", who could not do plumbing.
On this very blog we have "JOE G." "THE GOOFBALL"
Now we have another "JOE", "JOE WILSON" "THE IGNORANT REDNECK, BIGOT, RACIST", from South Carolina calling the President of the United States of AMERICA a "LIAR"
How many more "JOES" like the current "JOES" does the REPUBLICAN party have up their sleeve.
It proves just how out of touch these people are, when they cant even come up with anything better than another "JOE"
I have been living in this world for a long time, but never have I ever seen someone so appropriately called as the "MORON" "UNREAL"
Now "UNREAL" has stated so many "UNREAL" things that anyone reading them could only come up by saying.
"MY GOD, THATS UNREAL"
"UNREAL" grew up in the world of "MAKE BELIEVE" where if you think it.
It then becomes "REAL"
In the world of "MAKE BELIEVE" people believe that the only thing of any substance is the "UNREAL WORLD" of "LYING" "BLACK BATING"
"BIGOTRY" "RABBLE ROUSING" and "HATING"
The strangest thing about people living in the "MAKE BELIEVE WORLD" of "UNREAL" is that they all "ADORE" and "ADMIRE" anyone with the name "JOE"
What you folks should know is, that in order to get the name "UNREAL" a person must attend and graduate from the school of "LYING" for a lifetime.
Yeah, right, A black guy named Barack Obama has to be suspicious right? He might no be american, he might be a muslim, he might be a communist, he might take the country in the wrong direction, he might be a grandma killer... Forget about the remarkable life which has taken him to the White House. Forget about the love he has for his country. Forget about how educated and qualified he's for the office he's holding. I wish I were wrong, but Obama would not have half of those detractors had he been white. And that America, is the simple true.
Everyone who has served more than 20yrs in the military. and everyone now serving in the military already has Government run health care! I don't understand the anger of the republicans with Obama. Obama hasn't been in the white house for one yr. and all they do is complain. If they had an answer on this health care issue, why didn't they do something during their 8yr. watch? This Country is filled with a diversity of people, but when the republicans talk, they talk as if they are the only true American. This Country is called, The UNITED STATES of AMERICA, IT'S NO WHERE NEAR THE NAME IT PROCLAIMS.
JOE Wilson is Dead man walking (politically). Big mouth not brains.
When the Weapons of Mass Destruction were proved a lie, none congressman scream to the President “YOU LIE’
What does it say about a person who does not have the "GUTS" to identify himself by using his own "FULL" name.
In my opinion this is the kind of person who is a "GUTLESS" 'COWARD" that "LURKS" in the shadows of a "FANTASY" world, which is the only place he/she isable to function in.
In my many years of existance I have discovered that most of these people believe in the "REPUBLICAN DOCTRINE" that they are better than most people, and only the very rich should be allowed to exist, and the ordinary hardworking folks should be treated as nothing more than "SLAVES" to do the bidding of their "MASTERS"
Sounds a lot to me like "HITLER" and his supposed "MASTER RACE" of "WHITE SUPREMASISTS"
Like "HITLER" and his so-called "MASTER RACE" these too, will be vanquished.
I am proud of our President and agree totally about his healthcare program. He has offered to listen to anyone who has a better plan. What more can we say.
I dont know about the rest of you but i would rather have food on my table than free health care. Create jobs for America. His majesty never had to meet payroll and it shows. Spend spend spend we can always print more money right?
There were times when American people could proudly say WE are the government. Segregation that deep between governments and their people has always been an integral part of totalitarian regimes where people meant nothing and governments were absolute monarchs. IYes, democratic governments should not be running people's private lives and businesses but it shouldn't be people's enemy either. It is deeply disturbing to realize how far apart these two entities have drifted in today's USA. I think this is exactly what President Obama is trying to do among other things – find the right balance and establish healthy relationship between us, the government and us, the people.
I would love to add that the government has to stop hiring on any other basis but professionalism, and we have to make sure that each government employee is personally responsible and can get thrown out just as easily as the rest of us from corporations and stop'n-gos. Today's government job is a life-time job and medical security regardless of the IQ; looks like you need to murder 3 in front of 10 witnesses to get your first reprimand. This is why so many of us are normally against anything related to the government.
People, we have lots of certifiables and crooks in our government who can kill, waste and screw up anything and everything on all levels from post offices to Congress but who is at fault? Stop blaming the government like it had been sent to us from the outer space or ordered by a czar. We fear it like some alien monsters. Time to look in the mirror. We'd been too laid back and too relaxed for decades. Look where it took us. Call off your lousy representatives on all levels. They are too far from us, the American people, they forgot all about SERVING us, that they are OUR EMPLOYEES. This is what really needs to be fixed. Otherwise please remember – every nation has the government it deserves. I was too young in President Kennedy's times but President Obama is the first one so far to give me hope for a change in those messy internal government affairs as well. Also, I think the example he used with public and private education was plain brilliant.
Having said that, I still believe that this chance to get a civilized health care may indeed be the last in many years to come. Government-run business may never be perfect but we are approaching the point of no return. What we have now simply can not be worse, and public option will create competition and will make everyone to chip in.
Those who are worried about illegals – oh, well, if an illegal will drop on the street with a heart attack or a broken leg, we'll take him to the hospital anyway. This is how it is now and maybe this is how it will be in the future. In the future we better don't have illegals... I don't think they can count on anything else with this public option. Those who think that legal residents do not pay taxes before obtaining citizenship – you are wrong. They do from the moment they are permitted to work in the US. They get an SS# and their employers report them to IRS. Same way that mandatory basic coverage can be withheld from their paychecks. They are under full responsibility for their fiscal affairs, and any violation will cause them denial of citizenship.
Listening to some GOP blabber and his teleprompts right after such a magnificent speech given by the President was laughable and pathetic. I couldn't stand it for 1 minute. Good ole boys ran our or everything, even good speakers and good liars :-)
Boy you "REDNECKS" just are'nt very intelligent "ARE YOU"
Right-on hu! right-on, is just about as creative as a large "PIMPLE" on someones "ASS"
Even a complete idiot could identify you as a "WHITE GUTTER TRASH" Republican
Let me explain to you why "REDNECKS" like you are often refered to as "PUBS"
It's because you spew so much vomit, that only a drunken fool that has drank "WHITE LIGHTING" in a "PUB" all night is as illiterate as you.
How long have you been an active member of the "KLU-KLUX-KLAN"
I guarantee you, that if you stopped spending all your money on "BOOZE" in the local "PUB"
You and your wife and children could and would have food on your table.
Surely the state social assistance program money and food stamps you get, were never intended for you to "BOOZE" it up every night.
Why is it that when the media say's let's hear what the America People are saying it's only One Race of America that is represented.
Is not this Great Country the Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave rich in its cultrialism, Blacks Hispanics, Asian, etc. Where are these voice's. Is it only White America that is so appalled at having a Black President., was not this country built on the backs of Slaves. I say please America aren't we better than Hate, I see now why white America is so fuel, they very white and only Republican Leaders are angry. There is a scripture in the Bible that say's Priest like People and People like Priest. We All love this country let's work to built it and not tear it down, everyone suffer's from that fate. When 911 happen everyone join together for the good of this country, oh what great works we acheive in coming together. Mr.Wilson shame,shame shame on you and your colleage, not every American agree with President Bush, but always respected him as our President.
Unless you are an insurance company CEO – why would you object to reform – why would you object to a public option?
If you say expense or deficit then you've been duped by the insurance industry.
Our tax money is continuously given away to large corporations; oil companies, energy, pharmaceuticals, foreign countries, etc. by way of corporate tax breaks, wars, foreign aid, etc.
This one rare time – VERY RARE – we have a chance to have our own tax money spent here – on us – the American people. What a novel idea ! This one will actually help us – bring our cost down.
If we don't get ours – then the politicians will just spend it anyway – just not on you. You won't know about it – but it will get spent. So congratulations – you've just screwed yourself.
Me – I'm hoping for a STRONG public option that will invite competition and bring premiums down – so I can buy a big (BIGGER) screen TV.
HELLO – snap out of it – WAKE UP.
Wilson’s top campaign contributors are the Health Care industry.
Did you see the bills that Republicans were holding up during Obama’s speech? Apparently they were crafted by insurance company lobbyists.
The health care sector has recently contributed $23 million in election campaign contributions to influence the health care debate. Most of that money has gone to Republicans and the conservative Blue Dogs.
Hi there Gerald Jolly, i am Natasha Jones. (Like Gerald Jolly is your real name. ) your racism and intolerance are not helping you)
I cannot decide if you are a teenager going through puberty and your hormones are going crazy, which is okay, we have all been there, although i have never talked like that thank God. or one of those people who get on here and just make huge outrageous comments just to stir up the other people. if you are, it is not needed on this issue. i mean is that really the way you talk? i know you think you are clever. and you get the occasional online high five, but i think you should maybe run your comments by a rational person and see what they say. if they say, "right on" you have not reached one yet!!
this is what is wrong with all of this. on both sides of the aisle. you do more to divide people, than any one party could ever do. do you not have any real thoughts to contribute. all i hear is hate, hate, hate, and namecalling, and talking points from years gone by from Keith Oberman or something. you are not even following your own President.
but you are once again proving my point from earlier. thank you!
Dan, although I am a totally commited Democrat, some of the posts I write are not out of hatred for the Republicans, but you have to admit, that they have not and have never really had the best interests of the ordinary hard working folks in America.
You could say that I am in the upper half income bracket in America, "32 Years as a Litigation Lawyer" (NOW RETIRED) but in doing what I did, I was motivated by the incredible greed of the so-called corporate elite.
Most of my litigations were against loan companies, banks, and insurance companies, and the majority were PRO-BONO.
So I think I can call myself an expert when it comes to "CORPORATE GREED"
You spoke of the lobbiest having fabricated the white papers shown by Republicans during the Presidents presentation.
Given what most intelligent Americans know, that is easy to believe, and the reason why, is because very few of the Republican Congressmen would have the intelligence to craft these things on their own.
We only have to look at the number of Republican Senators and Congressmen that were forced to leave office in the last administration, every one for indictable offenses.
The option of a public insurance method has not been, nor will it be forced on anyone that does not want it.
The most scurilous dirty trick the Republicans orchestrated during the last few months was the 'SO-CALLED" death board, that has frightened the elderly for no reason at all.
Would it not be considered a moral sin to frighten the elderly only to atempt to destroy the President.
Would that not be considered an "ABUSE OF POWER"??
I regret to say that I think this latest atempt to destroy the ethics of our President, borders on a "TREASONESS ACT"
As for Joe Wilson, every South Carolinian that voted for that scoundrel should hang their head in shame.
He most certainly has not served his constituents well or properly, because he decided to serve his "MASTERS" the Insurance Lobbiests.
What a "SHAME" for every loyal American, we have become the joke of the world because of some "BIGOTTED BOOB" that has absolutely no decorum or decent manners.
I WOULD BET THAT HE WAS THE "SCHOOL YARD BULLY" WHEN HE WAS A BOY!
Natasha Jones the "REAL" "UNREAL" person.
Let me tell you a little about myself.
M.B.A. Farrington University 1982 L.L.B. Littigation Law Degree Buxton University 1988, Phd. Political Science University of Dublin 2000..
You're way out of your league if you want to debate me.
Why do I despise the Republicans and their party so much???
I lost a 20 year old son in Iraq in 2004, in a war that was orchestrated on nothing but lies by the most vile and lying administration this country has ever known, and now they are orchestrating another series of lies, about the President and his plan to provide decent health care for "EVERY AMERICAN" rich or poor.
And they are using "BOOBS" just like you, to fight for their stupidity because they dont have a plan or the "GUTS" to present a viable alternative.
You mean absolutely "NOTHING" to them, you are merely a "PAWN" in their game of "GREED" for "POWER" that they will continue on by atempting to destroy all the good things about America.
The only thing I will concede to you is that "YES" you are right, there is nothing "JOLLY" about me.
Vietnan, two tours of duty 1967/68. Decorated and proud to be an American, and guess what, "I DID NOT GO AWOL IN 71/72 TO AVOID SERVING MY COUNTRY, LIKE YOUR ILLUSTRIOUS FORMER PRESIDENT DID"
WAKE UP, YOU ARE BEING DUPED!!!!!!!!
That's not the case, unfortunately but any reform who help peoples should be welcome
Nancy Pfotenauer is almost as rude as Liz Cheney...why is it that republicans think it is acceptable to interrupt, yell and lie about the facts?
James Carville is as obnoxious as he accuses the Republican talk show hosts to be.
And who was it who said.:You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts?" It was a Daniel Patrick Moynihan who was tired of republicans lying and creating myths in their attempts to deflect from the issues. That is what this republican party does and that is the same thing that Limbaugh and Hannity do. For example, today Hannity said that the president called all insurance executives bad people. That is NOT what he said. What he said was that insurance execs don't charge high rates and drop people from insurance because they are bad people, but that is their job, to make money. Perhaps Sean needs to investigate his insurance policy to see if it covers hearing aids.
And Carol, no one said James Carville was a pleasant, charming man. But he is a brilliant strategist and if he were rude and arrogant, he wouldn't let Pfotenauer get a word in, but he does....because a good debate is two-sided, not the way Pfotenauer likes to dominate the airwaves.
James Carville, can be a very outspoken and obnoxious man, but unlike Rush Limbaugh and the other trashy journalists on FOX he tells the truth and the way it is.
Today in America, it would be fair to say that James Carville is the most believable strategist that either party has.
He may not be the most handsome man in the world, but he is at least honest and genuine.
Limbaugh is nothing more than an overwieght babbling moron that has captured the attention of all the "BRAINLESS" people in America.
I always wonder if Limbaugh will ever learn to take his foot out of his mouth/rear.
One good thing about Limbaugh is that he is the best thing the Democrats have got going for them.
Gerald Jolly... what to say...
Well first of all if what you say about your son is true, then i am very sorry to hear that. forgive me for being presumptuous, but it would seem that he was a fine man. for yours and his service and sacrifice i thank you very much.
However, you just keep proving my point every time. you cannot help yourself. the last couple of times i have not even talked about the republicans or defended them. i have simply tried to point out that the way to change anything is to act like Americans and stop the hate speech, the name calling(which you excel at), the judgements, and the intolerance, and have debate, even heated debate, like rational human beings. Anger, passion, frustration are all reasonable. but the others are not. like i said, you are not even following President Obama by doing that. although i have the feeling you really do not follow actual politics anyway.
but no, you have to list your resume, and your attributes, and speak of your son, as if that makes it all okay? did you think i would run away and hid because you went to college and once again insulted me and everyone who disagrees with you? you prove my point when you do that. you assume that you are smarter than everyone else, that because you have a masters, you are the supreme debater. there are a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who went to college. i mean what is this a pissing match? if it is a believe a doctorate in engineering is better. you also assume that you are the only one who has every suffered, you are the only one who feels pain, you are the only one who has suffered loss. you know nothing about me. i am sorry i did not see earlier the "dream world" rant. Dream world huh. again you know nothing about me or my world. i am so far steeped in reality i could be a good chai. how dare you!!
but i realized that you do not want to discuss facts. "my president" go AWOL, well at least he served. at least he did not do whatever it was your president did. i forgot the excuse Clinton used. but i voted for him because i agreed with him.
you do not want to discuss the facts. you do not want people to get along, because you like war. you want war. you cited it enough. what i talked about above was debate with peace. you do not even want a peaceful conversation. you want us at war here. you want us divded. and yes i do have boobs, and they are great. i also have a hell of a lot of guts. so do not pander to me like i am an idiot. you think yours cares about you? really? when your son gave his life for his country did the dems honor him. do any of the liberal stations even give them the consideration of reporting on them? no. nothing. do not lecture me about mine and lift yours up as some sort of impartial, selfless group just out to help the little guy. bullsh!t!!!
and lastly, who the hell said i was white? or yellow? or red? or brown? or black? you have no idea what i am, and it should not matter. who is the racist? what you do is not debate, so do not even talk to me about leagues. all you do is judge, assume, hate, misinform, insult, and the list goes on. do you hate everyone who disagrees with you? when you can come to the table with real issues, real thoughts, real facts, without the fluff, then you can say you are a debater. "why can't we all just get along."
until then just keep proving me right!!
DODIE and others--yes, in large part corporate America is responsible for the economic downturn, unless of course you are willing to admit it may not have happened if the liberals in Congress had not insisted basically everyone have access to home ownership (irrelevant what your income, credit rating, etc., might be).
Do you really want to blame corporate America for our healthcare problems. Would you not better serve yourselves to look in the mirror. If we were not an obese, lazy nation, we may not need this discussion. Stop blasting corporate America if you work for the government.
interesting!! you are definately right on the housing market. even many liberals say there is just no way you can get around Fanny and Freddy bringing it down. oh, pardon the pun on fanny. i was not tying it into your second paragraph. haha j/k
your point about healthcare is valid. i do not think it is the only reason by far, but it is hard to completely dismiss it when we are the most obese nation in the world. and i may not call us lazy, but you cannot completely dismiss that either when we get mad if the drive thru fast food place takes "too long," and there are ads on t.v. to "lose weight and tone those abs without even getting off the couch.'
i am not sure where we go on that, it is certainly a whole other topic.
larry king live if I can not do it they shere can not what I mean I,M not gonia work four free and I dont want the US collect my cookic that is for shere they trid to kill me and they well not get away with that ether I no you dont think I,M right but this has went to for donald l allen see you larry king it not going to happing with me you well see IM not a chert charity case that is it I wood reter do nutting than to go along with a help your salif thing if you no were I,M at see you larry I,M not going to help them
Well folks here is the latest poll on this blog
For President Obama 96% agree with his plan.
For the "PUBS" 3.3% disagree with President Obama's plan
For the number of "PUBS" that agree with what Joe Wison did .7%
For the possibility of a Republican win in the next election 0%
Ladies and Gentlemen, this just out.
The "TEA PARTY" buses, that have been travelling around our country, were organized entirely by the Republican party and funded 100% by the Medical Insurance Lobbiest in Washington. The key "RABBLE ROUSERS" travelling on the buses are all highly paid "GOONS" and were indoctrinated months before the so-called concept to travel around the country to boycott the health care initiatives offered by the government.
Just to explain how fabricated this phony B.S. was arranged. As the bus travelled from city to city, the people getting on those buses to protest were all screened and coached prior to getting picked up in the many cities along the route.
PROPOGANDA??? "MOST DEFINATELY YES"
SOUNDS A LOT TO ME LIKE, THE PRE-ARRANGED RIOTS IN MANY COMMUNIST COUNTRIES.
"GOD BLESS AMERICA"
well, you are back Gerald Jolly...
i thought you were not speaking to us anymore.
you will be happy to know that i will not be here anymore, I move on to another blog hopefully one with both sides of the issues so we can discuss them. because no matter how i tried i could not get anyone almost, especially you, to actually talk about any actual topics, or concrete issues and provide provable facts. and here you go this time not just bending the truth, but flat out lying to people who may read this and actually believe you. you were a service to your country once, but on this somber day of remembrance, you do this country and your fellow Americans a disservice by blatantly lying about whatever you want to discredit, and throwing around insults to anyone who disagrees with you. Very sad.
Oh that is right I forgot. I am not allowed to be nice or anything like that, because then I am living in that fantasy world, right. I forgot I am supposed to hate you because we disagree. Because we certainly do not need any niceness, or consideration, or compassion, or love, or peace, or tolerance. No, no. because what we really need is more I, I, I, me, me, me, rudeness, and ill will, and discrimination, violence, and anger…in this world. There certainly is not enough of that. Life is not hard enough, we have got to make it worse.
So I will leave you with your never verifying anything, never actually debating anything, never backing up any of your claims, and I will hope that someone, even if it is one person, will think about what I said yesterday and today, and help ALL Americans come together again for our Nation.
Oh by the way, on my way out, and no I will not let the door hit me, I was thinking, you must have just despised Senator Teddy Kennedy. Which is unfortunate, because he is one of the, if not the biggest proponent of the Presidents healthcare plan. (with the public option of course. It does not sound like the President is going to push the public option anymore)
But anyway. Teddy Kennedy worked with many Republicans on many things. He and President Bush together wrote “no child left behind.” He and John McCain wrote and worked on several bills and programs together. One of his dearest and best friends Senator Orin Hatch is a republican, and Vicky had Orin speak at Teddy’s Memorial Wake, at which he said affectionately, that he and Teddy would be arguing and debating on the floor of the Senate all day, and then when it was over Teddy would come over and shake his hand or give him a hug smiling, and say “great debate, that was fun, let’s go grab a beer.” That must have just irked you to no end that he made a habit of fraternizing with the enemy.
Well, I think he was a great guy, and I think that most of America including me will miss him very much.
I thought maybe I might miss you, but then…naaa!!!!!
On the news recently, there was a group of doctors that set up a
system of $49-79 a month payment for all services. If an individual group can do this and not go broke, then I fail to see why this idea could not work for the country.
Health care for all seems to me the same as education for all, a
basic level of care for all.
unreal . . . Mr Jolly "rogers" is worth the paper he is printed on
dont let that ZIT ON THE FACE OF HUMANITY ruin your day
keep it real
Unreal, you sound very frustrated.
"WHAT" Your husband/Boyfriend not paing any attention to you.
Anout Senator E. Kennedy, I admired the man very much, because he had the conviction to not back down from issues that he "CHAMPIONED"
I have two heroes in my life. # 1 My grandfather who raised me, educated me, after my father was killed in the second world war.
# 2 is J.F.K. a true war hero, and an advocate for equal rights for all Americans, be they black, white, brown or yellow.
The thing I most admired about JFK was that even thought he came from a wealthy family and a strong political father.
He never would have even considered going "AWOL" because he sincerely believed in his eventual epitaph.
"ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY"
As you can see from the Current Republicans in Congress and the last Republican Administration. We have "PUBS" that got that message completely reversed.
The Republican motto is DONT ASK ME WHAT I CAN DO FOR MY COUNTRY, BUT TELL ME WHERE I CAN PICK UP THE ENVELOPE FROM MY LOBBIEST FRIENDS.
I'm very sorry to hear that you are leaving this blog, "NOT" you will not be missed, that I can promise you.
Remember you made a promise that we intelligent folks have heard the last of you
Amen Gerald !!
RIGHT-ON, are you suggesting that you want to meet UNREAL, even if your face is full of ZITS.
Tell me, were'nt you arrested for scaring little children by showing them your face.
You should know?? that there are medicated creams and such for your condition.
Have you cleared up your other medical problem yet??
I suggest you try "PREPARATION" "H" and stop bending over every time your male friends come over.
And stop saying your special greeting every time you meet a man.
"I BET I CAN THROW YOU AND BLOW, BEFORE YOU CAN DOWN ME AND BROWN ME"
Weighing the PRO and CON of this subject, I think that the proper way to go would be that an option to opt in or out of a Government plan should be left up to the decision of the individual.
As I unnderstand it from all the media attention this has recieved, I think that any intelligent thinking person can easily see through the clouds or reality and lies.
The Republican element are forced to fight against the Government option or loose the financial support of the Insurance companies, Drug companies, Private Health Care Providers.
On the other side of the argument are the Democrats, who feel they are mandated by their promise to the ordinary hard working people of America that health care is and should be available to every American wether rich or poor.
Lastly, the decision will ultimately be made by THE GREEDY, or THE CARING.
JOE G. THE GOOF FROM ILLINOIS IS STILL HANGING AROUND???
GEEEEZZZZ! I GUESS THE TOILET MUST HAVE BACKED UP.
In order to really evaluate President Obama's health care objective one must first understand and comprhend "ENGLISH WORDS"
Words like "MORON" "STUPID" "IDIOTIC" "ASSININE"
First the President will sign a bill that allows for a "DEATH PANEL" to exist "ASSIININE"
Second, the President will sign a bill that forces every American to accept a "GOVERNMENT RUN OPTION" "IDIOTIC"
Third, the President will sign a bill that will cost every American person twice what they are currently paying "STUPID"
Fourth, the President will sign a bill that will insure all illegal imigrants are covered "MORONIC"
Fifth, the President will sign a bill that will insist that all government health care Administrator will be paid a salary of $ 24 million dollars a year. "IDIOTIC"
Sixth, The President will sign a bill that will penalize anyone not accepting the Goverment option by imposing a severe prison time penalty. "ASSININE"
Having explored all the "EVIL" things the President will do to his people, "HE WILL COMMIT SUICIDE" and beg the GOP to do one better.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Funny as this sounds, this is the kind of "STUPID" "MORONIC" "ASSININE" "IDIOTIC" BULL-S!@#$IT the Republican law makers would have you believe.
Sigh... Larry and the CNN webmasters, have you looked at the way comments are managed on Lifehacker, Gizmodo, Gawker and their sister sites? If not, you should. This approach isn't working. The illiterate and combative garbage being posted on this blog (on all topics) reflects badly on you and makes more reasonable people want nothing to do with the site. (Of course, you'll probably delete THIS post since all webmasters hate comments about moderation, etc., and I think I've already seen that demonstrated here. But I'm taking the risk because I'm a longtime Larry King viewer and this mess makes me sad.)
Kathi, you have no idea just how sad we all are for you.
"I HAVE AN IDEA"
MOVE ONTO SOMETHING THAT SUITS YOUR FEEBLE MIND BETTER!!
Offensive defense, eh, GJ?
Poster "Unreal" wondered whether you were "one of those people who get on here and just make huge outrageous comments just to stir up the other people." God bless her, she's obviously not spent much time in the virtual muck, and thus needed 21 words to say "troll."
You sang me a familiar tune above that I like to call "the phantom posse tactic." It's one of the trademarks of a troll.
My allegedly feeble mind, unlike yours, is at least sophisticated (and disciplined) enough to make a point without singling anyone out for personal attack (although I admit I didn't need to, since your conduct was the best match to my complaint by far).
You've been like a dog with a bone on this thread, and with all your abusive, obscene, inappropriately personal lunatic rant about zits and toilets and Preparation H and whether people are getting amorous attention or not, you should have been deleted out of here more than a week ago. That led me to believe someone was asleep at the switch, and again, I said so without attempting to incriminate anyone in particular. The fact that you couldn't let my comment alone only adds to your troll cred.
I say all of this despite being a vintage card-carrying liberal Democrat. I can't stand noise, no matter what color the noisemaker's stripes are. To the rest of this page's visitors I leave my usual advice: "Please don't feed the trolls." And that's all the time I'm going to waste on this.
Kathi, "GOT YOUR ATTENTION"
DID'NT I ??
About wasting your time, once again I feel so very sorry for you.
Imagine someone with all your knowledge being forced to blog on a lowly format such as this.
Surely we have been blessed by your input.
Terribly time wasting, "IS'NT IT"
How can I possibly thank you enough for reading all my blogs, and showing you appreciation for us LOWLY individuals
You truly honor me.
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