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August 28, 2009

Los Angeles Coroner's Office Press Release on Jackson

Posted: 02:53 PM ET

 NEWS  DEPARTMENT OF CORONER

County of Los Angeles

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

RE: Coroner Case Number 2009-04415 – JACKSON, Michael Joseph

Earlier this month, the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner completed its investigation into the death of Michael Joseph Jackson, age 50, who died on June 25, 2009.

The cause of death was established as:

•     ACUTE PROPOFOL INTOXICATION

•     OTHER CONDITIONS CONTRIBUTING TO DEATH: BENZODIAZEPINE EFFECT

The manner of death has been ruled: HOMICIDE

The drugs PROPOFOL and LORAZEPAM were found to be the primary drugs responsible for Mr. Jackson’s death. Other drugs detected were: Midazolam, Diazepam, Lidocaine and Ephedrine.

The final Coroner’s report, including the complete toxicology report will remain on Security Hold at the request of the Los Angeles Police Department and the Los Angeles County District Attorney. In accordance with this request, the Department of Coroner will not comment on its completed investigation.

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Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 2:56 pm ET

Murray

I dont believe for one moment that Michael asked for all those drugs in 1 night......absolutely impossible!

I will pray for your soul....bcse you are going to HELL! or is HELL too good for you.

I hope you are reading these blogs!

You will probably start singing like a CANARY now!


jacqueline from holland   August 28th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

dr dearh is a murderer he go to jail the inmates finish him offffffff


Gene   August 28th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

DR. QUACKER MURAAY IS MURDERER ONTO MJ. NOW GOING GO PICKEING SCUMMY MEN GOING TO THIESE JAILS. HE NOT FIT TO BE OUT SIDE FREE. HE KIIL ONTO MJ.


Lori   August 28th, 2009 3:01 pm ET

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!


Angie   August 28th, 2009 3:02 pm ET

MJ went out like Howard Hughes...dr's all around him...dr's kill him/them!


Lori   August 28th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

Michael was murdered. We all knew it. We've known it for months.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!


Gene   August 28th, 2009 3:03 pm ET

HE IS A LIEYERS MEN. LIE TO HOPSITAL. LIE TO EMT. LIE LIE LIER THEN RUNNEING AWAY LIKE NOTHING HAPPENEING. F INTO HIM. F F F HIM. esuses me to thiese ladies. I am more maddenings now.


Monica   August 28th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

One thing came to my mind:

The way Dr. Murray pored drugs into Michaels system seems more and more like he was trying to sedate i person who kept on nagging him. It`s like a child who keeps on screaming till you get to a state where you feel like you could........... (i think you know what a mean.)


Lori   August 28th, 2009 3:04 pm ET

@Gene

The ladies are maddenings now to!


Jacquelyn   August 28th, 2009 3:05 pm ET

Michael will get justice.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 3:06 pm ET

i HAVEING QUESTION NOW TO QUACKERS ATTONREYS. WHAT YOU SAYEING NOW. SOAB. WHAT YOU SAYEING NOW YOUR CLEINTS NOT GIVEING NOTHING TO MAKEING PROBLEMS. B S. DCOTOR LIERS TO YOU ATTONREY SAME THINGS. ---- good things now AEG gets NO MOENYS from thiese insuances I laugh to thiese AEG faces. YES! GOOD BIRTHDAYS FOR ONTO mj FOR THIESE JUSTICES! MJ should be lives now SOB F dcotor f you cronrad muraay.


Maureen (UK)   August 28th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

What a tragic loss of life. Hope all the people involved and "in the know" & who should have known better, are also caught.


Lori   August 28th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

He better get justice. He deserves it. He needs to have his good name restored. Bring the perpretators to justice. Get them. Get them all.

Justice for Michael


Gene   August 28th, 2009 3:07 pm ET

no way monca. how can MJ who haveing thiese oter drug to makeing clear desisions. not possable. wasteing time F thiese A holes dcotor.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

Murray,I hope they NAIL the hell out of your sorry ass,MURDERER!!!!


sherry   August 28th, 2009 3:11 pm ET

FINALLY<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<now maybe we will get somewhere


akshara   August 28th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

all the dam papparazzi and journalists like bashir arre the main cause!

if they were not to torment him .....called him wacko n etc...he would not have had sleepless nights...

so to get sleep wht does he do? turn to docs for help!!
n what do they do?? KILL HIM!!


Jessica   August 28th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

what about the poor little girl, now young woman who was held captive for 18 years. this poor baby gave birth to two girls while in captive, first on when she was 14 years old. phillip garrido should have his balls cut off!


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 3:14 pm ET

@ jacqueline-holland

They should throw him in the same prison as Charles Manson & Phil Spector,I'm sure he'd fit in just perfectly!!!!


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:16 pm ET

There were two a similar cases in austria Jessica // You know what is scary, I know about 3 cases now, imagine how many other people might be there in the same situation? When you have already two in Austria?


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:17 pm ET

Now what will the defense of this doctor be? I wonder with what kind of story they come out now. They will still try to blame it on Michael.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:19 pm ET

Tina

Like that little Jessica from england that was kidnapped over a year ago!! Probably same situation!


angelswings   August 28th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

OLD NEWS WE BLOGGERS AND FANS KNEW THIS NOW GET HIS ASS DAMN IT AND DOCTOR KLIEN IAM MAD AS HELL..................................HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

Now the homicide news is also on german news channel n-tv. But they do not call it a drug overdose they call it poisoning.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

Tina

Murray is already doing that on ET Diane Dimond said that Murray said that probably MJ self medicated himself during the 2 minutes he was gone to the bathroom.........Michael ws knocked out with Propofol....how can he medicate himself! He will have to do better than that...who is going to believe that?


Lisa S   August 28th, 2009 3:24 pm ET

Have they arrested anybody?


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 3:26 pm ET

@ Lora

I don't wanna hear anything about Diane Dimond,she had a personal vendetta against Michael and would even side with his 'murderer' just to cast him in a bad light!!!!!


Lisa S   August 28th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

I dont get this. They have completed the investigation and it was rules "homicide" But why is there no arrests?


SuzieCanada   August 28th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

We've known all along that Michael was murdered. Now we get official confirmation... my question: WHY IS MURRAY THE MURDERER STILL A FREE MURDERER?


jacqueline from holland   August 28th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

lora,in two minutes you have to stand up and take the meds no way nobody can do that specialy michael


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

Lisa S

You would think that the arrest would be imminent! If he is arrested hope he doesnt get bail.......hope the amount is too high for him to pay!


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:29 pm ET

And why didn't he call 911 asap when he was gone only 2 minutes and MJ self medicated himself? Those time gap didn't made it better for the doctor, he would have had a better chance for such a story if he reacted right away. But he didn't. And no matter what, you cannot leave the room, not for 2 minutes and also not for 1 minute. I doubt a doctor at a hospital would go pee in between unless there is another doctor watching the patient.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

Samantha

I know, I dont even know if it's true or just made up by Diane! Cant believe ET hired her!


jacqueline from holland   August 28th, 2009 3:30 pm ET

i hope he comes handcuffed on tv all over the world like they did the same with michael


akshara   August 28th, 2009 3:31 pm ET

bashir n other papparazzi are the 1 degree murderers for this case
n second degree murderes are the doctors


Diane in Minneapolis   August 28th, 2009 3:31 pm ET

They will have to make their arrests prior to September 3rd. I think the family has waited to bury him because there could be a chance that the defense wants their own autopsy. Family was probably told to hold off until the official coroner's report came out and subsequent arrests were made. Today is a sad day again.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:31 pm ET

Tina

Murray probably thought that the Propofol woulld not be traceable if he waited long enough and the room was over 90 degrees so that they couldn't tell the exact time of death!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

Lisa,

The LAPD is still researching. The coroner defines it as homocide, but in order to build a strong case probably more investigation must be done?


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

I think the doctor said 25 mg because he knew they will find more, so he has a story prepared what might have happened when he left the room.

But giving 25 mg or 400 mg doesn't matter, you DO NOT LEAVE THAT ROOM under no circumstances.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 3:37 pm ET

I wonder if the coroner has estimated the dose of propofol which has been administered.


Kara   August 28th, 2009 3:38 pm ET

At least his children will have peace of mind knowing that the death of their father was at someone elses hand.


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 3:39 pm ET

Lora Ottawa, yes that makes sense. Maybe he thought they will find only a little bit and just waited.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

Monica

I have joined!


Gloria   August 28th, 2009 3:43 pm ET

To Gene: What about the insurance that AEG had on MJ. They collected, I thought 3 million dollars? Now that he didn't die of an "overdose," what is going to go on with the insurance? I know you know these answers.... let me hear from you....


M. Lanska   August 28th, 2009 3:44 pm ET

What I don't understand, Larry –
MOST of all the friends, and associates of Michael Jackson, denied
that he was taking anything, especially M. Brando's son, who was
on your program. Were they all afraid their "Jackson Paycheck" was going to stop, if they spoke the truth? Hell Larry, half of Hollywood and most of our famous musicians are are doped up. How do you think these "intorverts" (like MJ) became "extroverts?"


Anabela Guedes, from Portugal   August 28th, 2009 3:45 pm ET

BASHIR; MOTTOLA; THOME THOME; AEG; MURRAY; KLEIN; MEDIA; JORDAN CHANDLER AND HIS SICK FATHER; ARVIZO; AND SO ON...

ALL MURDERERS!!!!!!!!! IF I WERE THEM I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN JAIL RIGHT NOW! IT WOULD BE SAFFER!!!!!!!


Brigida, Italy   August 28th, 2009 3:48 pm ET

Kara, I don't know if his children make a difference of that. They have lost their father... but it's good to know, they admitted it was not his fault!

Tina, there was a case like this also in Italy a few month ago.


simba   August 28th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Not only do you not leave the room when propofol is administered, an anesthesiologist said that it takes three people to monitor the patient, and they don't even turn their backs for one second!

The Chicago Sun-Times reported that Katherine Jackson, who is normally calm in all circumstances, totally lost it when she found out that Dr. Murray had called Prince to perform CPR on his father, knowing that MJ was already dead. For this cruelty to a child alone, Murray should do hard time.


Lori   August 28th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

Gloria: AEG did not collect on the insurance for the This is It concerts.
Branca collected on a personal policy that paid the estate 3 million.
Two seperate insurance issues.


Linda D. Norton   August 28th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

I think that Dr. Murray is in a LOT of trouble. Let's hope that he doesn't get a chance to flee the country – if he hasn't already.


Monica   August 28th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

To Lora Ottawa Canada

Good!! Ad me as i friend??


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:

This is from Michael Jackson Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones and this particular excerpt is about how Michael thought about people who conspired together to to destroy him................Looking back and given the current situation,I believe that Michael was right all along!

"As for Michael, the superstar has long been public in his claims that conspirators have been trying to ruin him as part of an attempt to regain control of his large stake in the SONY/ATV music catalogue, which includes songs by Elvis Presley and the Beatles. Jackson made reference to a conspiracy which appeared in a nasty Vanity Fair article that hit newsstands just days before the verdicts in
Santa Maria. The Vanity Fair piece mocked Michael Jackson’s alleged belief that the accuser and his family were being paid by “enemies” who wanted to take over the SONY/ATV music catalogue. The vicious article poked fun at Jackson, who believed that former Sony Records president, Tommy Mottola,and the “powers-that-be” at Sony Records—along with DA Tom Sneddon—were the “main conspirators” against him.About all this, Michael Jackson’s defense attorney, Tom Mesereau, has remained somewhat neutral. Though Mesereau had no actual evidence to prove Jackson’s theory that he’d been the victim of a corporate conspiracy, the defense
attorney agreed that it was perfectly possible that a “subconscious conspiracy” between Sony and the Santa Barbara DA might have existed.

“What Michael said about a conspiracy makes logical sense, but I have no evidence
of it,” Mesereau confided. “If Michael were in jail or in prison, how would
he defend his ownership in the catalogue? How would he defend all these frivolous
lawsuits? Sony had so much to gain if there was a conviction, and Sneddon
would have gained celebrity status. These people didn’t have to actually sit down
to conspire together. They might have helped each other on an unplanned
level—because they had a common interest.”
Ironically, if a conspiracy did exist against Jackson, perhaps it was being led by
former employees with personal agendas, fueled by unusual houseguests who
wanted to cash in, and fortified by certain members of law enforcement who had
their own egotistical reasons for wanting to tear Jackson down."(Jones,2007)


Gene   August 28th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

Answer to gloria. no. I am thinking here there is 2 insurances 1 death inusance policy onto MJ estate attonryes they settle for less moenys. thiese AEG 17 millon insuances they not getteing NOTHING now. --–I am still smell thiese fish here. why. why deleio sits into luncheon with thome rihgt round corner from MJ home. why. that same days same times. fishy onto me. he can be going to any oter place into Bevrly Hlls or into Los Angeles. why rihgt round corner? same exactley times. no dcotor just to walkeing away and MJ is NOT to be doing thiese onto his seleves. NO!


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 4:01 pm ET

@ Linda D. Norton

Well if that's the case then I hope the relevant authorities are ready to arrest him at the airport!!!


Lisa S   August 28th, 2009 4:01 pm ET

simba:

I hope it is not true for everybodies sake.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

I am very angry ! How could this happened ! I don't believe Michael would take all this drugs like that! There is more than ! Murray and Klein have a lot explaining to do! And tomorrow would have been his birthday what a tragedy ! My baby!


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

They are not releasing the whole coroner's report.....there is something much deeper going on!


Gene   August 28th, 2009 4:03 pm ET

I haveing flashing lighting going off. I am not sure now. mabye AEG is takeing 3 millon dollar moeny back form payment onto thiese insuances. I am still to thinking not. AEG not gets nothing. only estate peoples they are to be settle for thiese less amount moenys.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

If Murray is going to try to escape to Grenada , he will be arrested at the Airport, he needs to pay fo this! Justice for Michael he deserves.
Michael we love you more!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:06 pm ET

Prince looked very composed during the memorial, it could well be he was still in the skies if he indeed needed to assist with performing CPR. The cook also said Murray came running down yelling for Prince to come up.


Luda   August 28th, 2009 4:07 pm ET

Is it me or... nothing new here.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

@Lora, they don;t want to jeopardize the investigation, that's why they don't reveal the complete report. It could also well be they found some things they don;t want to disclose because the family doesn't want the public to know.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 4:09 pm ET

MJ is not to being doing thiese into his selves. NO WAY! MJ canot to askeing for more eter. he under afluance of drug dcotor canot to be take MJ demandeings of his words. NO WAY TO RUNNING DCOTOR. NO WHERES TO HIDEING! BASTERD MEN QUACKERS. STICK IT UP TO HES BUTT. ---------– I am sorry for my baddest words into here ladies. I am to going now to resteing. I am more maddening than I ever into my lives.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

@ Monica: I am a dot in MIchael's Portrait ! One by one is what we need ! I am a night bloger here ! But after the Coronre's confirmation I had to come here ! And the family wants to banned us Michael's fans to go near his burial sit! Isn't going to happen we are going to be there for Michael !


Lori   August 28th, 2009 4:11 pm ET

@Lora
of course there is. The coroners complete report will probably become a trial exhibit in the future.


Lora Ottawa Canada   August 28th, 2009 4:11 pm ET

Farewell

Do you live in L.A.?


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 4:11 pm ET

@ Eli

Which doctor would call a 12 year old to see his father lying lifeless?The signs were already there when he called Prince upstairs that he was 'GUILTY'!!!!


Luda   August 28th, 2009 4:12 pm ET

they do not call it a drug overdose they call it poisoning.
--------

OH! God! What is that circus!

Overdose, poisoning.... that's murder.


Monica   August 28th, 2009 4:16 pm ET

Hi Farewell

I live in Norway so i can`t be there. My name is mlehm on the Tribute site. Ad me as a friend if you like??


angelswings   August 28th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

MY HEART IS SO HURT NOW EVERY ONE KNOWS THIS WAS NOT A STUNT WE LOST POOR MICHEAL I HOPE WHO WERE IN HIS LIFE AND DIDNT BELIEVE MICHEAL I HOPE YOU ALL ROT IN HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

I doubt the whole autopsy report will become public. We know what we need to know, the rest is privacy. I see already all those idiots out there waiting for details of his body that are not their business. People are so sick....unbelievable.....


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Samantha,

It is, humanly speaking, cruel and medically speaking, unethical.

Poor Prince.


Natela Chubinidze   August 28th, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Dear friends!You think only Dr.Murray folt?Yes he is KILLER who put money in first and after Michael's life.Where is the others DOCTORS-KILLERS?You think we forget about you?You are going to be panished by GOD!!!!!Karma is going to follow you everywhere!!!!Go to HELL ALL!!!!!!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:23 pm ET

Tina,

Exactly, what has been leaked out already is the deplorable state of MJ's body. Maybe there were traces of marijuana or other illnesses which the family does not want to disclose. What the public needs is a connection to death, not all other possible findings.


Gloria   August 28th, 2009 4:26 pm ET

Thank you to Lori and Gene. I think I have it straight now. Personal insurance money was collected by the estate to the tune of 3m and the 17m with Lloyds of London... AEG won't be able to collect on now. Did I get the facts right?


sarah   August 28th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

so heart breaking, Poor Michael didn't know what the moron doctor was doing to him , soooooo sad, 😦 all those doctors who are responsible for this have to pay big time..................... can't believe this kind a tragedy happened to Michael ........ we miss u MIchael so much.............

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKSITAN!!!PEACE!!!


Luda   August 28th, 2009 4:27 pm ET

there is something much deeper going on!
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Lora, I agree with you 100%,
I've said it before: there something bigger the they let us know.


Sheletta   August 28th, 2009 4:28 pm ET

Since the Coroner's Office Officially stated that Michael is homicide, then why no ARREST????? They need to go after Dr Feelgood and Dr Fixmyskin man so that this can come to a close. That way can rest in peace.


cherubijne, The Netherlands   August 28th, 2009 4:29 pm ET

…He was dying during the last 6 weeks of his life based on what I’ve seen after his death on tv/Youtube…when he met the dancers…and the last rehearsel.
And with all the ‘prescription medication’ on his last day (and what else), it was down and out.
My question for the doctors and the nurse is: when I was able to see this (and I am not a doctor) why couldn’t you?
……………………………………………………………………..


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 4:30 pm ET

You know what is great? Remember all the stories about demerol and pain killer addiction the media made up. NOTHING OF THAT WAS FOUND.

Not one drug that wasn't prescribed and given at this night. NOTHING, who is the fool now?
Second time the media made up a big, big story, 2005 he is guilty, he is for sure guilty.......what the hell he isn't? He was addicted to demerol / painkillers, he was for sure, he was.... what the hell he wasn't?


Lori   August 28th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

@Gloria. Yes, I think we have it correct now, at least that is my understanding. We will have to see what happens with AEG and their insurance policy, but I think AEG will have a problem collecting anything. Hopefully AEG has recouped their investment through the movie and memorabilia deals and all further monies will flow into the estate.


Luda   August 28th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

Remember When Michael was 46, the media wrote he was dead... people believe it... so much Michael had to come out to say: "Hey! I'M ALIVE!"

So media say anything the feel like, it depends on their digestion...


Linda Nilsson   August 28th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

I sure hope the LAPD comes through for Michael Jackson this time! They owe him big time! Murray is unethical and arrogant to think he could deal with Michael's addictions by himself, that is his excuseyou know. And how about the time delay! Don't tell me he did CPR for 82 minutes and made several phone calls too!!!!!! Murray needs to be prosecuted for the death of Michael Jackson.


Hugh Carpenter ~ Tracy, California   August 28th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson–enough already!
Larry, this blog has turned from LarryKinglive.com into Michael JacksonCNN.com. Hype, hype, hype it some more. I'm sorry Michael died, I admired the man's talent, but there's more to life than Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson is dead, get over it! Move on. Some people really need to get a life! Live your life, understand?


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

@ Tina

The media love to make Michael out to be something that he isn't,they all jumped to assumptions regarding the cause of his death implying that he killed himself and now I'm sure most of these sick journos can swallow their words now coz it has been found to be otherwise!


Jacquelyn   August 28th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel

There was no traces of marijuana and other stuff in his body then what they said. 2 drugs killed him and nothing else.


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:41 pm ET

Tina,

The left over benzo's are enough to call him addicted. Doctors should have seen this, they collected the pills everywhere from, under aliases etcetera.

I think we should not diminish MJ's problem with benzo's, for benzo's are a common rememdy nowadays and many people are dependent. This case should set an example: never try to solve insomnia with benzo's in a long run.


Mila   August 28th, 2009 4:42 pm ET

I wish the coroner had said if they did a DNA test on the body too. I know that they probably did but would have been nice to put the rumors to rest.


Eva   August 28th, 2009 4:42 pm ET

I hope Dr. Murray will end in prison!!!
Poor Michael!! How stupid and unreliable doctor Murray has been!!
Fans from the Czech Republic


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:43 pm ET

Jacquelyn, not the full autopsy report was made public, only the cause of death.

If Michael was taking other "drugs" , or if he had illnesses (like skin cancer), it could well be it won;t be made public at all. I am not saying he had it in his system, I am saying we don;t hear the whole truth.


Mimi   August 28th, 2009 4:44 pm ET

MURRAY GAVE MICHEAL ALL DOSE DRUGS AT A GO.. THEIR WAS NO GAP OR TIME INTERVAL, HE LIED.


irene   August 28th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

Ach, dear Michael.....


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 4:46 pm ET

After hearing all this news,I'm sure I'm going to be crying myself to sleep tonight!


Lisa S   August 28th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

Eli, Jerusalem/Israel

I agree with you and I hope the family can keep it private if they want to.

If it would have been so easy and clear, Dr Murray would already been arrested. There are definately more to it and more people involved. You wouldnt let a murderer disapear like that. Or maybe he is already arrested?


Lori   August 28th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

Murray may have been the hand that placed the needle, but someone else was calling the shots. There is more to this than meets the eyes.
I am so angry. Even though I knew this day was coming. I am so mad and sad. There are people out there that know more than has been reported. Eventually the day will come. The day will come when the media and the world will acknowledge that Michael Jackson was a victim and this time he just wasn't given the opportunity to fight back. Now we will have to carry on the fight for him.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Lisa,

you know I am kind of rational, it hurts, though I don't lose myself.

However, I am still leaving open the possibility AEG and or Sony have a part in this too. We have still a flying colors medical test and other strange things.

I still do not know what to think of it. It probably takes years and years before we know much more.


sarah   August 28th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

why is the Jackson Family not saying anything i know that they are in grieving process very hard for them, all these stories, calling MJ addict, cocaine, marijuana stories, they need to defend him, why not pressuring the LAPD to go ahead with the arrest what is the hold up????? its sooo frustrating and also very sad .............

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN!!PEACE!!!!...


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

Samantha, no please!! Take care of yourself.


irene   August 28th, 2009 4:54 pm ET

I am not exactly sure (yet) weather it was homicide, as in "deliberate murder", but manslaughter for sure. He might not be an EXTREMELY bad man – like a nazi 😉 – but he's 'bad enough', thats for sure. He shouldnt have ignored the feeling that he was being stupid and acting very, very dangerous in different ways. It was not his call to make – to take the chance – to take the risk (of his sweet mans life..!) for his own moment of glory and fame, and the paycheck. But he did, and that can simply not be accepted. I would be a horrible judge as I would find it difficult to send someone to jail, but in this case... its inevitable. You CANNOT send out the message that this is "acceptable".

I feel so sorry for Michael. And for his family. For all of them.


irene   August 28th, 2009 4:55 pm ET

Justice indeed, Lori.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

@ Lori

If people were out to destroy Michael,it was to gain control of the catalog and this all leads back to Sony.There is more to this than meets the eye,that's for sure!!!


Gary Chandler in Canada   August 28th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

CNN is THE impact show. It uses the word, impact, which means collision, 100 times per hour!
Here are choices that could make the broadcast less boring.
>>>
Affect – [a feeling or emotion] effect [result/consequence of an action/process], influence, impress, appall, dismay, alert, transform, drive, act, adopt, touch, touch on, result, cause, invoke, make, force, attain, achieve
———
oh, and impactful is NOT a word!


irene   August 28th, 2009 4:58 pm ET

akshara, yeah.. so sad...........

😦

😦


8080   August 28th, 2009 4:59 pm ET

Lawyer for Jackson doc: Release full autopsy now

Posted: Aug 28, 2009 01:30 PM PDT

Updated: Aug 28, 2009 01:30 PM PDT

LOS ANGELES (AP) – The lawyer for Michael Jackson's doctor is criticizing authorities for withholding the full results of the singer's autopsy.

Edward Chernoff, who represents Dr. Conrad Murray, says he's at a loss as to why the Los Angeles County coroner's office only released a brief summary of the results Friday, including that Jackson's death was a homicide and the cause was the powerful anesthetic propofol and another sedative.

Chernoff says he needs to know precisely what levels of various drugs were detected and said the failure to release the report seemed like "gamesmanship."

Chernoff says his client was truthful with investigators and the general findings made public support statements the doctor gave investigators after Jackson's June 25 death.


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:02 pm ET

Tina, good comments...!


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

@ 8080

Murray is paying his lawyers to lie coz they are clearly trying to turn this into something else!!!


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

Jacqueline,that would be quite interesting to see if they show him on tv handcuffed.... I bet.... they dont.....
They were always unfair to Michael...

But Michael was brave.......

I feel sad now the 'formal' news is out....


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:07 pm ET

Kara, Im hoping Mjs kids do not know anything (yet)... that theyre playing.. and dancing in the rain.... talking about the lovely memories of their dad... I hope they do not hear anything about this news (yet)....
How are you gonna tell these kids: Your daddy, your best friend, has been killed..........

SO BLOODY SAD


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:11 pm ET

@ Irene

You should seriously think about that protest set for 25 June 2010 coz WE need to all take a stand and put a stop to bias media and their continuous attempts to 'destroy' people!Apart from Michael being targeted for years,today I picked up my local newspaper only to find that rather than paying tribute to Ted Kennedy & all the good he has done,they brought up his past with the heading called "Sleazy Past"!!!


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:11 pm ET

Eli, good comments.


Patty Anderson   August 28th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

So does this mean they will finally arrest that quack?


Lori   August 28th, 2009 5:14 pm ET

@8080

Just lawyers doing the job they were paid to do. Question to ask here is who is paying for Murray's legal team?? The Doctor was b.r.o.k.e.
And I am sure that once charges are filed that Chernoff and crew will be able to obtain the full coroner's report. Chernoff saying it is "gamemanship" on the part of the coroner, is like saying Murray didn't make a YouTube video-that was your gamemanship!

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:14 pm ET

Natela, I believe in Karma as well.... It will all turn and work out.........................Just be patient..................


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Being and staying open is always good Eli.... Its what Michael taught us...... it requires a balance between the emotional and the rational... I always remind myself that.


stu   August 28th, 2009 5:17 pm ET

Ok,after that i hope,finaly thay will arrest the dr-s,but thats all?I mean,if realy sombody is behine dr Murray,the police dont investigate about that?


Eli, Jerusalem/Israel   August 28th, 2009 5:21 pm ET

Dank je, Irene 🙂


Lisa S   August 28th, 2009 5:24 pm ET

irene

I doubt " his own moment of glory and fame" was behind this. Dr Murray would have gotten much more statues and fame and future jobs if he had kept Michael alive.

As you probably understand I find it hard to believe that Dr Murray deliberately killed michael jackson or even not did his best to save him. And until I see resonable motives and reasons, I wont be convinced. If you are a doctor and want to kill somebody there are several other ways to do it.


Lori   August 28th, 2009 5:27 pm ET

Giving Propofol outside a hospital was a "sure fire way to do it". Michael is dead. Murray admitted to giving it.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


stu   August 28th, 2009 5:27 pm ET

But Lisa,what.if he gat big money to kill Michael.He can spend 5 years in jail by mannslaughter,and thann he is a reach man.


stu   August 28th, 2009 5:28 pm ET

rich


Sheletta   August 28th, 2009 5:28 pm ET

You know what there must be something about to happen, if the coroner's was told to keep the report under security, there is something else that they found.


Cindy   August 28th, 2009 5:30 pm ET

There better be justice for this! Even if Michael is partly responsible for his own death because of his need to sleep, there was absolutely no excuse for Dr. Murray to use all those drugs within an extremely short time span. Then disappearing, not signing the death certificate, maybe stealing the security tapes, leaving Michael alone to make phone calls or even go to the bathroom all spells HOMICIDE! Dr. Murray was obviously too darn busy trying to cover up what he had done. All for MONEY! Where were his ethics? He doesn't have any. There is going to be millions of angry people if there is no justice for Michael. This was grotesque negligence!


stu   August 28th, 2009 5:31 pm ET

Yes,that fonecalls?Who he mayd call?


stu   August 28th, 2009 5:32 pm ET

Sheletta,i think so too.Thay dont even said,what kinde of homoside...


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:32 pm ET

Hugh, you should live a life.... yourself. Im sorry. Understand? Please, "dont -you-understand-us". We DO find this importance, and of great news value. Im sure there a lot politics, sports, sex for you to enjoy left in the media.
If you dont see the significance of this yourself.... do not see the importance of this news, then you just missed it. And if youre coming with these arguments that worse things / killings happen everyday, everywhere, I agree! We are reminded of it EVERY F* SINGLE DAY, as if you should almost feel guilty to enjoy life, and talk about other things; things that actually INTERESTED you, and TOUCH you. To me, MJ stands symbol for a lot going on in this world.

Im enjoying my life perfectly at the moment, thank you.


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:35 pm ET

I wish I could change the world, but I cant... not on a big level... – to be clear.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:36 pm ET

@ Lisa

There would seriously be something really wrong with Murray mentally speaking if he thought that by doing this,he'd have "his own moment of glory and fame",its insane!!!

I strongly believe that there are others involved in this ploy to murder Michael as there are just things that have occurred over the years that really makes one think twice about all the attempts to destroy Michael and the fact that may be these were all orchestrated by the 'vultures' as preposterous a idea as this may seem!Given that Murray spent 47 minutes making non-emergency calls,just who the hell was he talking to unless he was reporting back to the 'vultures' themselves????


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 5:36 pm ET

Cindy I don't considered the need to sleep as being partly responsible. Insomnia is an illness that you don't get because you drink too much or smoke or whatever. It would be the same someone has e.g. migraine and a doctor gives something that should not be given outside a hospital. You cannot say oh the person is 50% responsible.

People really need to understand that those prescription drugs always come into your life because you are ill and not because you want to have a party.


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:37 pm ET

Eli and Tina, I agree... its not all of our business... We know now what we had to know.


Mimi   August 28th, 2009 5:39 pm ET

IN AS MUCH AS I LOVE MICHEAL AND STILL HURT FROM HIS PASSING, I CANT IGNORE THE FACT THAT MICHEAL WAS A FOOL FOR YEARS... MICHEALS NAIVITY AND TRUST LED HIM TO PUT HIS LIFE, CHILDREN AND CAREER IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE DAT WERR THERE TO PROFIT FROM HIM AND THEN FINALLY KILL HIM.

JUST THINK ABOUT THIS, MICHEAL TRUSTED THESE KIDS THAT ACCUSED HIM OF MOLESTATION AND THEIR FAMILY, THEY BETRAYED HIM IN THE END, MICHEAL TRUSTED HIS NANNY, SHE TURNED HER BK ON HIM NOW AND SOLD AN INTERVIEW TO THE TABLOID BLACKMAILING MICHEAL, MICHEAL TRUSTED BASHIR, MARK LESTER, URI, AND THEY ALL STABBED HIM IN THE BACK.THE LIST GOES ON AND ON... AND FINALLY, MICHEALTRUSTED THIS QUACK DOC MURRAY, ENOF TO LET HIM LIVE IN HIS HOUSE ONLY FOR MURRAY TO BE BOUGHT BY MICHEALS ENEMIES, COLLECTED MONEY FROM THEM AND KILLED MICHEAL.

BEFORE THIS OFFICIAL CORONER RESULT CAME OUT, I SAID THAT MURRAY SPENT OVER AN HOUR ON THE FONE AS MICHEAL WAS DEAD ...... CALLING AND DISCUSSING WITH HIS CONSPIRATORS... D CORONERS REPORT PROVED ME RIGHT...

MURRAY SPENT ALMOST AN HOUR ON THE FONE B4 CALLING 999!!! I TELL U, I CANT BELEIVE THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE LIKE MICHEAL..MURRAY WASTED ALL DAT TIME TO MAKE SURE MICHEAL IS DEAD B4 CALLING EMERGENCY, HE KNEW MJ WAS DEAD AND KEPT PERFORMING CPR, HE KEPT INTERUPTING THE EMERGENCY SERVICES SO THEY WILL BE CONFUSED AND NOT BE SURE IF MJ WAS DEAD B4 THEY ARRIVED OR NOT..... HE THINKS HE IS SMART

..HOWEVER, I AM VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROSECUTION CASE, THAT IS WHEN MURRAY AND HIS CONSPIRATORS WISDOM WILL BE TURNED TO NOTN BUT FOOLISHNESS.... IF ONLY MICHEAL GUARDED HIS LIFE AND HEALTH JEALOSLY LIKE HE DID HIS KIDS, WE WILL NOT BE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS !!!!


irene   August 28th, 2009 5:39 pm ET

I think its good the Jacksons are being quiet. They should focus on themselves now, on the kids, on michael. Not on us.


Terri   August 28th, 2009 5:41 pm ET

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) — Federal agents have launched “their own independent investigations into matters” uncovered by Los Angeles police while looking into Michael Jackson’s death, the Drug Enforcement Administration says.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:41 pm ET

@ Mimi

Yes I agree with you about the fact that Michael was just way too trusting and unfortunately,this was his downfall!!!


Mimi   August 28th, 2009 5:44 pm ET

... LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW.. IMMEDIATELY MICHEAL WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD,DR KLEIN, AEG RANDY PHILIPS AND THE NURSE ALL CAME TO THE TELEVISION TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY DID THIS OR THAT.. I SEE IT THAT THE WIND OF GUILTY CONSCIENCE HAS REVELED SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MJ'S DEATH EVEN B4 THE PROSECUTION CASE STARTED..

THE NURSE IN AN INTERVIEW WAS ASKED BY BARBRA WHY SHE FEELS HER NAME WAS ALL OVER THE POLICE AFFIDAVIT AND SHE SAID AHE DOES NOT KNOW... I TELL U, SHE KNOWS.. HA HA SHE KNOWS.. KLEIN,MURRAY,AEG AND THE REST OF THEM KNOW AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL COME TO KNOW THIS AS WELL.


No 1 mjfan   August 28th, 2009 5:48 pm ET

LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW.. IMMEDIATELY MICHEAL WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD,DR KLEIN, AEG RANDY PHILIPS AND THE NURSE ALL CAME TO THE TELEVISION TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY DID THIS OR THAT.. I SEE IT THAT THE WIND OF GUILTY CONSCIENCE HAS REVELED SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN MJ'S DEATH EVEN B4 THE PROSECUTION CASE STARTED..

THE NURSE IN AN INTERVIEW WAS ASKED BY BARBRA WHY SHE FEELS HER NAME WAS ALL OVER THE POLICE AFFIDAVIT AND SHE SAID AHE DOES NOT KNOW... I TELL U, SHE KNOWS.. HA HA SHE KNOWS.. KLEIN,MURRAY,AEG AND THE REST OF THEM KNOW AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL COME TO KNOW THIS AS WELL.


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 5:50 pm ET

Mimi,

yes he was too trustworthy but I think he had some people he could trust. The ones that do not speak up since he is dead. A good example is his make-up artist. She spoke once in 30 years in this Take Two interview ( Remember her comment: Bashirs will come and go ...?) and you could see how close they were.


Meyling L.   August 28th, 2009 5:52 pm ET

Dr. Murray "aka the KILLER": I don't know what your intentions were, but if you are a doctor that means you are not supposed to be stupid, so how in the hell could you think all this deadly cocktail you gave to Michael was not going to cause him death??? and then you will be accused as the KILLER?? What's in your head? I think we all know!!! YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS AND DON'T THINK THIS IS OVER 'CAUSE FANS AROUND THE WORLD ARE WAITING TO SEE JUSTICE. I also blame the MEDIA, they have done nothing else than humiliate Michael, but here is one thing they don't say: they were so obsessive about Michael 'cause he was the one who gave them the money 'cause every time they mention his name, people around the world would go crazy 'cause everyone LOVED him!! And all this journalists that talked GARBAGE about him, they were just dying to meet him or even been around him!

Michael Forever and I love you MORE.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:55 pm ET

@ Tina

Yeah I remember the makeup artist,she has been with Michael for almost his entire career and may have been probably one of the very few employees whom he could trust.As for his friends,I think his 'truest' friend by far is Elizabeth Taylor,she has stuck with him through the thick & thin and remained by his side throughout,never once wavering in her support.


Samantha - South Africa   August 28th, 2009 5:59 pm ET

Given that its officially midnight here and officially 29 AUGUST 2009,I've now begun my celebrations!


stu   August 28th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Yes Tina,if somone has som sikknes,and the dr give something,and say,its save,the person going to believe it.That person didnt finish the university of dr,so he dont know,what is that.he believe for the dr,its good,speachely,if he pay this big salery,he think.he gat extra things,even at home.


Karla   August 28th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Murray, I hate you for killing the KING OF MUSIC. I really hope you suffer a lot!!!!! Arent you a professional? I wonder professional in what???? Killing people with propofol???? I hope you pay the price plus tax! You are a disgrace for doctors, you shouldn't be called a doctor, you are a murderer!!! MURDERER MURRAY! That's your name! And yes i blame the media too, as Michael said once "the media is wrong"!!!! Specially those like idiot Bashir!!! I hate that unprofessional "reporter". Hope you are happy now Bashir!!!!! Keep talking trash!!!! Thats all you do!
I LOVE YOU MICHAEL JACKSON....ALWAYS!


Sheletta   August 28th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

Linda N.: LOL now that is funny.

MariaU: LMAO girl now that is a name. No, not this book the other one caled Unmasked the Man.

Well, he told Lisa about it and she said go ahead, because she was not having another baby.

Dr Feelgood, lawyer, is full of Sh**. Now, why would they hand over everything if they are buileing a case? If the LAPD, holding something back there must be something they will be using for an arrest.


stu   August 28th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Mimi,i agree.There was som phonecalls for hem,who knows,who he called.he knew,Michael was dead.he lied,he didnt have phone.Why he would lie that,whenn he had.So then why he didnt call 911,and he is a dr,didnt he know,how to give CPR?I dont believe that!And why he disapired,and the video tapes too?Its murder...


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:08 pm ET

Dear Samatha, and everybody,

CALL

Yeah, I think its a great idea. The protest. Its the only 'medium' – a protest – not directed and controlled by the media. We will not be (entirely) dependent on them. Everyone put the date in your diary, and see forthegiftofyou.com, soon – If youd like. It would not be for Michael Jackson only, but a protest where he stands symbol for a lot that is happening with regard to the mainstream media (not CNN), and what has happened in the past. Perhaps a protest in each continent, as the same time.

:p

Samantha, Im not sure if I said this here already, but I need to tell you:
Im writing a book on Michael – with a.o. an American individual that did one for Lennon as well; advised by a highly respected professor with regard to media & communications. Trust me, this one...... will not to be IGNORED. (A great of it will go to charities, btw). This is also why I have collected almost every possible magazine, paper (EU, US, UK) on MJ, the last couple of months. I think theyre over a hundred right now. I've also got prints for example of several blogs....

I've also got them from The SUN, Daily Telegraph, People, Enquirer, Rolling Stone, LA Times, New York Times.... etc... etc...... which Im sure, theyll regret...........

I am a communication scientist (to be). I work and study part time. Im working 24/7 at the moment, all together :-).

Please tell me what magazine this is, you're talking about. Especially the SLEEZY ones, I neeeed...!!

For the rest,
I cant say too much, as I dont want some idiot (journalist) to take over the idea and / or turn it in something commercial, or whatever. I want it to put on the market as a 'surprise'. But it will really do Michael Jackson justice, and give an insight in how the media works.

Everybody, If youd like to help, all BAD articles on MJ are very, very welcome on i_n_dominique@yahoo.com. As it is impossible for me to get EVERTHING thats out there.

More later on forthegiftofyou.com. Ideas of course are welcome as well.


angelswings   August 28th, 2009 6:12 pm ET

THIS WHOLE THING JUST STINKS


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:13 pm ET

cnn right now!!!!!


angelswings   August 28th, 2009 6:14 pm ET

YES LUDA THEY DID SAY MICHEAL DIED AND HE CAME OUT TO SAY HEY IAM ALIVE BUT IT DIDNT TAKE THIS LONG FOR HIM TO JUMP OUT AND SAY HEY


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:15 pm ET

HAHA, graag gedaan, Eli. 🙂

Love, Irene


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:18 pm ET

Tina and Samantha: Ms. Karen Faye.

Im on her :-). Hope she wants to help. A guy I know knows her very well 😀


stu   August 28th, 2009 6:22 pm ET

MICHAEL JACKSON sid: "If you really want to know about me, listen to the lyrics in my song Have You Seen My Childhood ."


Tina (Germany)   August 28th, 2009 6:25 pm ET

Yes Stu and many people can't imagine how bad insomnia can be. I seldom have problems sleeping, but sometimes I have it for 2 or 3 nights in a row, when I am too busy and have important things to do and that is already enough to make me agressive, weepy and running around like a zombie. I know the effect MJ was talking about exactly, I also forget to eat and wonder why I feel bad until someone tells me I should eat something and I also know the effect that I call "synapses tantrum". You go to bed, totaly tired and then your brain starts to go mad. You think and think and think, not about something important. thougths just jump from one totaly stupid issue to the next. The thougths do not even make sense. It is more like: Do I have enough tomatoes at home, well where was the book I started to read, how much might an elephant drink during a day, ah well a green t-shirt would be nice etc. etc. "synapses tantrum".
Sounds idiotic? Yes it is, but it happens, I don't want to think about having this 24/7.


Meyling L.   August 28th, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Totally agree with you Tina. Michael Forever!!!!


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:35 pm ET

Ive had it..... for years...... I do not with it to anyone.....


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:36 pm ET

sleeping problems..


Sheletta   August 28th, 2009 6:37 pm ET

Mimi: I somewhat agree with you. Michael try to believe in people, only to later found out he made a bad call. I'm pretty sure Michael would never expected that this Dr Feelgood would had taken his life. Dr Feelgood, was in debt and whomever go to him knew he needed Money to get back on the right track.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 6:44 pm ET

@Monica I got your name on that site Thanks.


irene   August 28th, 2009 6:45 pm ET

To LISA S.

No, of course not, I did not mean it that way! Sorry, I do not always have time to check my English. Sometimes it does not come across well.

Of course I did not mean to say he KILLED michael FOR his minute of fame! I meant, he kept saying yes to Michael to certain things (for example), staying in this small circle with Michael, instead of getting advice / help from other doctors how to treat Michaels sleeping problems.. because he wanted Michael (and his fame) for himself.. And perhaps knew Michael would dismiss him, if he would have said no to things. IF, THAT THE STORY OF COURSE. Being in Michaels life was his 'minute of fame'... I meant... Like Deepak tried to explain.

Sorry. Im sorry Im too tired. Im gonna post this last poem of MJ, and then Im going to sleep. Like a rose.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 6:51 pm ET

Answers to gloria. YES! you haveing it rihgt who getteing paid insuance moenys. OMG I still wonder why. why dcotor not to be pickeing up yets. now his attonrey sayeing oter BS things why not to open all coroner report. he is aslo stupid men, you checkeing it out.
dcotor giveing all thiese drug one onto the tops of each oters
dcotor giveing propnol then walk off 2 minute
come back. he seeing MJ not to breath.
he go out to calleing oter peoples 47 miunte
he calleing secerty guard
he lie of thiese address
he lie abuot phone not to be wroking
he goeing down stair leave MJ alone 2 times now.
he get MJ son envolve for why.
then he
lie to emt
he lie to hopsital. he NEVER to telleing for real what he giveing to MJ NEVER
he lie to police
he run away
he lie to his owen attonrey
he never said truths one dam time while all thiese going on and going on then he make idot of himselves go onto youtubes make stupid more lie claims sayeing I am tells to thiese truths BS BS BS BS BS.


Lori   August 28th, 2009 6:58 pm ET

@Gene–I hear you. Now don't get working yourself up so much that you get sick. We all have to stay strong. We know what went down here. And it will all come into the light.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 7:03 pm ET

@Lora in Ottawa -Canada ! No, I usted to . But I am driving tomorrow night with my son I have to go! I don't believe I wiil see nothing . But I have to be there. We will ride for some days ! But Michael deserves that ! You see I have been a fan for 38 years and this is the last Good-Bye, and I 've got to be there !


irene   August 28th, 2009 7:07 pm ET

"MOTHER"

Eons of time I've been Gestating
To take a form been hesitating
From the unmanifest this cosmic conception
On this earth a fantastic reception
And then one fateful August morn
From your being I was born
With tender love you nurtured a seed
To your own distress you paid no heed
Unmindful of any risk and danger
You decided upon this lonely stranger

Rainbows, clouds, the deep blue sky
Glittering birds that fly on high
Out of fragments you've made me whole
From the elements you fashioned my soul
Mother dear, you gave me life
Because of you, no struggle or strife
You gave me joy and position
Cared for me without condition
And if I ever change this world
Its from the emotions you've unfurl'd
Your compassion is so sweet and clear
Your finest feelings I can hear

And now that I have come so far
Met with every kind and czar
Encountered every color and creed
I go back to that starry night
With not a fear for muscle or might
You taught me how to stand a fight
For every single wrong and right
Every day without a hold
I will treasure what you've mold
I will remember every kiss
Your sweet words Ill never miss

No matter where I go from here
Youre in my heart, my mother dear.

– – –
MJJ, Dancing the dream
– – –

Enjoy reading Alice in Wonderland in heaven – listening to Chopin and Beethoven Im sure – sitting in a big beautiful tree, reserved for you 51 years ago – fantasizing – looking over the beautiful peaceful fields of silver, gold and green. Youre at home now. Your first happy birthday.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

@Carpenter -California : Don't worry ! HE IS OUT OF YOUR LIFE'
You better get your life straight! This blog is for us the fans , we have other sites to go if we want to, So, if you don't like it "BITE IT"


Sheletta   August 28th, 2009 7:10 pm ET

Mimi: You got a point there.

Terri: You are right that is exactly what she said.

TJ: She care more about her animals

Irene" Do we really know for sure that Michael demanded Murray to give him propofol? If he's lie about everything else what makes you think he did not lie about that also?

Tina-Germany: I know the effects myself, it's been this way for me since 02/86 when my mom pass away. Since, then I've have this problem and my docor's have prescribe sedatives for me to take, I only take them after I have'nt slept in two days. So I personally understood what Michael was going through.

Luda: That is so true. A friend that do not have a motive behind giving me somethat that precious.


Farewell   August 28th, 2009 7:14 pm ET

@ iRENE: Is beautiful Thank you!


irene   August 28th, 2009 7:17 pm ET

No, we dont'.... its likely though.... if its in his blood....but we dont know.... well probably never will...


Gene   August 28th, 2009 7:18 pm ET

I AM TO SAYEING THIESE 1 TIME MORE.
HOW CAN MJ BEGGS FOR THIESE DRUG WHEN HE ALREADY BE UNDER AFLUANCES OF OTER DRUG FOR ALMOST 8 HOUR. HOW? MJ CANOT MAKEING SOUNDER DESISIONS ONTO HIS SELVE. DCOTOR IS MAKE OTER SOTRYS UP ABOUT MJ BEGGS. CANOT BE POSSABLE. NO. THEN THAT IS MEAN DCOTOR EVEN MORE TROUBLES BEACUSE HE TAKEING WORD OF MJ WHO IS HIGHER. HIS BRAIN LIKE FUZY HE CANOT MAKE RIGHT THINKING. makeing no differens dcotor walk away NOT GIVEING MJ AIR OR HELPEING TO BEATHS GOD SAKES. HE IS DCOTOR HE SHOULD BE KOWING BETTER THAN ANY BODY ESLE.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 7:28 pm ET

Ok. I am sorry yes. I am maddeneings again. now I am to readeing attonrey for quacker wanteing exactley level of propnol. Ok. I sayeing thiese. think. when MJ death you know propnol haveing to be higher than what thiese coroner report sayeing. think. almost what it is 2 hour going by befroe MJ goes to hopsital so dcotor was makeing surely propnol is going out of MJ so no trials onto thiese drug. this is to be why dcotor never sayeing about drug to emt or onto hopsital. his thinking he getting rids of it by that time. fool to thiese docotr. so level from propnol haveing to be higher at times of thiese death. OH lighting going off agian. mabye dcotor he waiteing 10 minute makeing sure no breaths then off to bathrooms thinkeing plans now. then he sayeing I only to leaveing for 2 minute. BS BS BS BS . dcotor he never tells thiese truth never never never never A hole lieyers thiese sob men. muraay caching into corner no ways out.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 7:39 pm ET

Ok. I am sorry yes. I am mad more again. now I am to readeing attonrey for quacker wanteing exactley level of propnol. Ok. I sayeing thiese. think. when MJ death you know propnol haveing to be higher than what thiese coroner report sayeing. think. almost what it is 2 hour going by befroe MJ goes to hopsital so dcotor was makeing surely propnol is going out of MJ so no trials onto thiese drug. this is to be why dcotor never sayeing about drug to emt or onto hopsital. his thinking he getting rids of it by that time. fool to thiese docotr. so level from propnol haveing to be higher at times of thiese death. OH lighting going off agian. mabye dcotor he waiteing 10 minute makeing sure no breaths then off to bathrooms thinkeing plans now. then he sayeing I only to leaveing for 2 minute. BS BS BS BS . dcotor he never tells thiese truth never never never never A hole lieyers thiese sob men. muraay caching into corner no ways out.

Answer to hugh. no. this is now Offical bloggy of MJ from Columbo school for Thiese Tieing Ups Thiese Loose Ends.


Hugh Carpenter ~ Tracy, California   August 28th, 2009 7:39 pm ET

@Farewell
I am a fan too! Or didn't you read my whole entry? "Bite It?" Whatever.


lindafromnewyork   August 28th, 2009 7:41 pm ET

Hi evryone


irene   August 28th, 2009 7:43 pm ET

He was a human being as well…. a good* one

* %* a son……

A father… *%* *%* A friend…..


irene   August 28th, 2009 7:43 pm ET

Youre welcome, Farewell...


Hugh Carpenter ~ Tracy, California   August 28th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

@Irene,
All I'm trying to say is move on. Enjoy YOUR life. Bad choice of words on my part. Sorry to offend anyone who is still all emotional over Michael's tragic death. Peace.


angelswings   August 28th, 2009 7:52 pm ET

WHERE IS THE GREAT INFORMER NOW WE NEED TO KNOW MORE YOU CAN TELL EVERY ONE


Kathe   August 28th, 2009 8:15 pm ET

There are many that need to "fry" for what was done to Michael. There had better be justice for MJ . .. . I pray that all those responsible, Murray and whoever else get what they deserve! They are truly scum!


carol kesling   August 28th, 2009 8:15 pm ET

i trully hope michael will get justice.... very sad that this dr. could be so careless in his treatment of m.j. this is like playing russian roulette. only these stakes were WAY TOO HIGH !!!!!!! GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU MICHAEL....love you lots, happy birthday........


MaryRM   August 28th, 2009 8:44 pm ET

Michael suffered from Lupus. Managing the recurring pain through medication is what sufferers do. Michael had built a tolerance to several meds, many of which are commonly used to help Lupus sufferers. Many people even take medical marijuana to reduce the pain (found in his home). Glaucoma can be a problem (medication for this found in his home that was initially though to be heroin). Insomnia is a common side effect for people taking medication for Lupus. Now add to that the excitement and pressures of preparing for a comeback show and imagine the insomnia.

Of course, at this point in his life, after many years of this affliction, he needed competent medical care, not a celebrity sell-out who gives in just because a patient gets demanding.

Before slamming Michael, people should try to understand how he reached this level of drug tolerance and addiction. The media could have helped, many times over the years, to inform and educate, which used to be part of the job, however, when compassion and understanding were required, he got ridicule because it required no research and made easy money.

Prejudice is ignorance.


Heidi   August 28th, 2009 8:59 pm ET

MaryRM,

Well said!

Hi everyone.


Anna   August 28th, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Mary, your statements are well stated and appreciated!

I have always loved Michael and when I heard he suffered from Insomnia (which I personally do myself), I had wished he had the help he needed. And certainly not from a doctor that did not understand this problem he encountered with his health. Michael is a wonderful person (no, I did not know him personally) but I grew up with him as most baby boomers, he was one of the most charitable individuals I have ever known, I loved who he truly was even when he acted like a kid, he enjoyed life as much as he could. He was and is truly a legend for all...I personally don't know anyone else that gave to the needs of humanity than Michael...there will never ever be another like Michael, his dances, his music, his character..he was unique, special and one of a kind, will be loved and missed. I pray that everyone will take a step back, learn from all of this and see what a great example he was to all, may we exemplify his great quality's towards one another.


Bella   August 28th, 2009 9:10 pm ET

I can't believe it when Dr. Conrad Murder said he had "treated" Michael's insomnia with Propofol – it's worse than treating a heroin addict by a heroin himself. This Dr. is so desperate to earn his 150k/month. And now he said because Michael begged him. Why not say "because Michael put a knife on my neck" for Propofol? Can dump eventhing on the death, can't he, because the death can't defend himself, he can't simply talk.


Tink   August 28th, 2009 9:19 pm ET

@MaryRM. Bless you Mary for your comments regarding Michael. I especially appreciated so very much these comments you made and feel they are worth repeating. "Before slamming Michael, people should try to understand how he reached this level of drug tolerance and addiction. The media could have helped, many times over the years, to inform and educate, which used to be part of the job, however, when compassion and understanding were required, he got ridicule because it required no research and made easy money. Prejudice is ignorance."


yuuxsaki   August 28th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

It doesn't make sense. why he gave all of those drugs within a few hours? he did that on purpose or what? why he kill his money machine if he got $150,000 USD a month? well, they will never tell us the truth. remember "good news doens't sell"


mika   August 28th, 2009 9:26 pm ET

“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”


Constance   August 28th, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Michael needed help, but not the help Dr. Death was dishing out. To even call him Dr. is a crime in itself. I hope they throw the book at him.and all the other so called Dr's who helped to kill Michael.. RIP Michael, I read you will be laid to rest in a beautiful place, finally.


jacqueline   August 28th, 2009 10:07 pm ET

@MaryRM......Thank-You for What you said


D   August 28th, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Evening everyone...I am a newbie but have been following your blogs since MJ's passing. Please tell me how to post a link here, there is a very interesting video on Thome. thanks


Terri   August 28th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

@Gene AEG CAN COLLECT FROM THE INSURANCE BECAUSE THEY HAD AN (OD) OVERDOSE CLAUSE IN THE INSURANCE SO THEY CAN GET PAID. THEY INTENTIONALLY TOOK OUT AN OVERDOSE CLAUSE..SO YES THEY WILL GET PAID THEY WERE JUST WAITING FOR THE AUTOPSY REPORT FROM CORNERS TO BE MADE PUBLIC


Barbara   August 28th, 2009 11:32 pm ET

"When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself."
Rest in peace Michael. All your fans hold you close in their hearts-now and forever.♥


Gene   August 28th, 2009 11:41 pm ET

No to terri. I am not to beliefs into thiese AEG gets payeing. Mj did not do thiese unto his selves. underlayer dcotor resonble he doeing thiese to MJ if they gets to paid then clear to me they kowing thiese will be happeneng like they are gamble and they win. BS.. right now I am not to careing anymore anyway. I am shamed abuot thiese police leave thiese dcotor run round free men. Mj broter they goes out useing MJ name for them to gets moenys. they never to help MJ. I donot cares anymore.


Gene   August 28th, 2009 11:54 pm ET

Terri. sorry if I am sounds maddeneing I am.. I am readeing answer is no. llyods of london to not be payeing out on over doses. they only to pay if MJ haveing accdent NOT drugs. so AEG they are loser onto insuance polcy.


Patty Anderson   August 29th, 2009 12:17 am ET

hEY EVERYONE IT'S THAT TIME. Wish Michael Happy Birthday.... It's his day!!!!


Lisa S   August 29th, 2009 1:36 am ET

irene August 28th, 2009 6:45 pm ET

Now I understand you and I agree with you.

Klein said in some interview "the richest and the poorest get the worst medical care".


Toni   August 29th, 2009 2:32 am ET

Hi, is anyone still here?


mariau   August 29th, 2009 8:17 am ET

gene – don't worry dr. propofol will serve his sentence for 15 years.. i know it's still difficult to accept because of this irresponsible doctor.. MJ died..


Marilyn   August 29th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

Murray is in a bind- he wants to say he stepped out of the room while Mj was sedated so he could claim Mj "self medicated", but he NEVER should have left Mj alone while on propofol....so it is bad eithr way. Truth of the matter is, Mj was out cold on the propofol immediately.
"Intoxicated with propofol" means just that. Murray gave Mj an overdose of propofol on top of all the other drugs he had given him. Maybe the phone call he made was to Klein, whether or not he should give in to Mj's request for the drug?????


mytake   August 29th, 2009 7:20 pm ET

I think the authorities should be looking into bank accounts that MURRAY might possibly have offshore somewhere from his big "pay off" for completing his assignment of ending MICHAEL'S LIFE. (Just A Thought)

This man, MURRAY, has concocted the biggest lie ever. He knows that he DID MICHAEL IN and then...

1. Kept sticking him with injection after injection to resemble his made up lies.

2. The room was at 90 degrees when the EMTs got there. WHY?
If the story is told that MICHAEL liked his room hot, then how the Hell could MURRAY like the room that hot since he had to be in there with MICHAEL...Was MURRAY in a T-shirt and beach trunks in that room? The room was still HOT because MURRAY NEEDED MICHAEL'S BODY TEMPERATURE TO BE CLOSE TO NORMAL to fit his LIE that he was ALIVE that morning.

3. MURRAY CLAIMS that he had been giving the Propofol to MICHAEL for 6 weeks straight...but...on this night and according to him the previous night he had tried to wean MICHAEL off the Propofol...REALLY?

4. Phone calls were probably made to tell the other culprits that MICHAEL was done and the "Help me get my lie straight talk," kept him hiding out not telling anyone who would care if MICHAEL was ALIVE or NOT, and wasting time while he got his LIES STRAIGHT LONG ENOUGH to get acquitted in a trial and PAID later on.

5. I BELIEVE, MICHAEL came upon some info and confronted MURRAY and MURRAY couldn't deny it, then talked himself out of trouble and when MICHAEL accepted his explanation, he knew he had to handle MICHAEL and come up with a major excuse.

6. MURRAY, quite possibly could have ASKED MICHAEL for MORE MONEY for giving MICHAEL this above and beyond medical assistance and MICHAEL probably said that wasn't possible and...WHAT IF... MICHAEL had made plans to DUMP MURRAY and MURRAY FLIPPED OUT because he DESPERATELY needed the money for his Stripper Girlfriend and their baby.

7....And, why did the nurse CHERILYN LEE say that MICHAEL called her 4 days BEFORE on Sunday asking for Propofol...IF...MURRAY was supposedly giving it to him for 6 weeks straight, SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP. So, was MICHAEL asking "CHERILYN LEE TO REPLACE" MURRAY after HE "FIRED" HIM?

8. MURRAY has GUILT written all over his face. He looks like a man with AGENDAS and he proved that by making that Youtube video. As I said before, MICHAEL probably finally figured something out about this guy and wanted him GONE as his doctor.

9. Nothing MURRAY did on that day would be considered PROFESSIONAL or SENSIBLE, only CRIMINAL.

10. Here's another of my SCENARIOS...Someone WITH A HUGE BANK ACCOUNT was so afraid that MICHAEL was going to comeback and BE EVEN BIGGER THAN BEFORE and they didn't want that...THEY didn't want the PUBLIC OPINION of MICHAEL to grow MORE POSITIVE...mainly because THEY had put so much work into trying to RUIN his life in the TRIAL...Now that MICHAEL was going to come back BIG TIME that would have been TOO MUCH for them to handle, because MICHAEL would be untouchable in the PUBLIC OPINION AND EVEN MORE RICHER. (I have an idea who could have had a hand in this but I'm not going to say who because people don't like to hear the truth.)

11. In their INITIAL PLAN, they probably were EXPECTING to EXPOSE MICHAEL's Prescription Drug Addiction after he got to LONDON and that would have CRUSHED MICHAEL that their SPIN would have been that he was doing drugs...for OTHER REASONS than NEEDING SLEEP...but MURRAY's SLIP UP CHANGED FROM EXPOSING MICHAEL IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT TO ENDING MICHAEL'S LIFE...a different final means to their END for MICHAEL.

I hope some very smart PROSECUTORS are reading these BLOGS because I might have the CASE AGAINST MURRAY wrapped up in a pretty PINK BOW to put him in CUFFS and BEHIND BARS for a very long time.

I hope LARRY KING reads this BLOG and GIVES IT as a NOTICE to someone of MAJOR INTEREST in HELPING MICHAEL.


Sheletta   August 29th, 2009 8:11 pm ET

Mytake: You have brought out some very important points, that could had happen. Now, one of my point's that I believe and I may be wrong is that : Dr Murray, was too overdose Michael not in the states, but when he was upboard doing his "This is it 02" tour. Otherthing you brought out I did not think about is Dr Nurray certainly did say he had been giving M ichael this mess for six weeks and then all of a sudden two or one day later he tries to wean him off. I wonder had the POlice or Even the DA made that theory of the lies Murray told.


Farewell   August 29th, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Have you seen the interview Marlon gave to The Mirror in the UIK. About Michael's burial he said that Michael's body has been prepared by an make-up artist and he is going to wear a long wig to his shoulders , that he is going to look like he is going to stage and the kids wrote poems to be place with him. Aretha Franklin is going to sing and Diana Ross is going to there as well. The burial is going to be at sunset on Sep 3rd and the cemetary is closed to the public , but to enter you need to show an ID.It was Mrs. Jackson who postponed the date from today to a later date because been a Jeovah Witness she doesn't believe in birthdays that's is the reason. Well. this is going to be Michael's final curtain call , he is in Heaven and I hope he is happy with the angels singing for him.


Brigida, Italy   August 29th, 2009 8:27 pm ET

mytake
it all adds up. You assumed our 2-month-blogging perfectly.
Perhaps it happened exactly this way, perhaps some point was different.
For sure is, since we have no official statement from the investigations we can only try to make the points.

But, if it's true and "somebody" wanted to destroy Michael completely , it went bad. Murray lost control over the medications and now try to put it on Michael and he died. NOW Michael is more powerful as in his life, spreading his message all over the world. Did you follow what happens everywhere? Celebrations, Flashmobs, tributes all over. And it's very young people doing this!

If they wanted him dead, they got it. But NOW he is more alive than ever. And nobody will ever believe Murray and his lawyers or any other person of this shady circle, like it was called. It's over and truth is coming out.

Instead of destroy him, they created the Legend faster than Michael himself did.


Sheletta   August 29th, 2009 8:27 pm ET

Angleswings: I did not know this bite of information. Where did you read this? Now, I know this was murder, murder, murder. OMG this case is getting stonger and stronger every minute.


&&&&&&&   August 29th, 2009 10:04 pm ET

MaryRM, It is very easy to blame Michaels drug addiction on everyone except himself. Come on, now you are blaming the Media. As a matter of fact the media has educated the people on drug addictions. You have to accept responsibility for your own actions, even if kills you.

Yes I agree he had medical issues, but to blame the Media, that is ridiculous


Lori   August 29th, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Anyone blogging tonight?? If so leave a trail so I know which blog you are all on.


&&&&&&&   August 29th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Michael Jackson was a great entertainer, but he kept company with some real losers.


spirit   August 29th, 2009 10:11 pm ET

I hate Murray saying all the time that on Jackson's repeated demands and requets he gave all those medicines to him... I DON'T BELIEVE MURRAY FOR A SEC... And by the way what was he thinking when he gave so many drugs to him in one night????????????????????????????...
Was he bent upon making Michael go to sleep forever which he eventually did!!!

Murray! How can u go on living, man? I only wonder @ ur conscience!!! U r a cardiologist, right!!! U seem to lack even common sense... Not even a layman would hav behaved the way u behaved that day... & now u r saying that u did all u could... Yes U DID ALL U COULD TO KILL MICHAEL!
What is LAPD doing by the way? Put this man behind the bars...
But what hurts is that even after putting this quack behind the bars won't bring Michael back to his fans and his kids who love and miss him terribly...


Susan   August 29th, 2009 10:16 pm ET

The crucial point is the dose in Michael Jackson's body was lethal. A LETHAL amount leads me to believe it was DELIBERATE and not accidental. Exactly who delivered the dose....was it only Dr Murray or were more involved? Why are the security tapes during MJ's murder in his home missing? Why is the media not outraged over this? It doesn't add up. The Illuminati probably masterminded this.


mytake   August 29th, 2009 10:58 pm ET

Farewell: I got inner nervousness after reading what you say Marlon had told the Mirror in the UK. Just hearing about this, even being so far away from it, gets to me. Hearing about the details, I got so shaky.

I've written 4 different Birthday Letters to Michael today, posted on fan sites. On one of them I said that he could be my Guardian Angel and that my present Guardian Angels would love to have him on board. (haha)

I haven't cried today yet, but I might before the night is over.

Sheletta and Brigida: When I read both your posts it made me feel jittery as well, because you can see where I'm coming from with my thoughts. It's almost a patternn of things that someone will decide that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I have a knack for seeing things for more than what's on the surface.

I figure it's usually a hit or miss what I see and feel, but most of the time, I'm more hit than miss.

I get weird feelings about events that occur about Michael. Like when I listen to his music, a couple of the songs sticks out at me. Well, yeah, I might be a little spiritually psychic (weird), but I don't know how to read things, until something happens and then I put 2 and 2 together. Let me give you an example or two...

On the Tuesday night, June 23rd, I was flipping my television channels and I stopped on this movie channel and the movie, "Conrack" was on. I had seen this movie before so I didn't pay it any attention and just changed the channel and then washed my dishes. Then in my mind I started to try to remember things about the movie, like what was this guy's name that the kid's nicknamed "Conrack".

To my shock, I didn't remember it until I heard the name of Michael's doctor...and what do you know the name was the same, Conrad. The children on the movie couldn't pronounce the name Conrad, so they called him "Conrack".

So it turned out that there was a connection to Michael and it was in his journey home that the name came up. I immediately locked in on this doctor and on that following Monday, I wrote a email to Showbiz Tonight show that I felt that the doctor had something to do with what had happened, even though nothing had been said officially about him doing something wrong...everyone was talking about Michael having had cardiac arrest, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL THAT AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IT.

Oh and another odd thing happened when I was listening to a playlist of Michael's music on my phone that Saturday (6/27) I usually pick my first song instead of letting the playlist start at the first song. On this day, the first song started to play after I accidentally clicked the start button...that song is called...2BAD. I got a jittery feeling in my stomach because the song seem to be telling me something (I know it sounds weird), so I stopped the song and picked another song and after the next 3 songs, the playlist which is set to shuffle the songs, somehow found that "2BAD" song again. I almost dropped my phone. I stopped the music altogether and didn't turn it back on.

Now, if you've heard the song then you know that a few words in there are very direct in saying what someone is trying to do to Michael. I've listened to that song years ago when it first came out and never have I felt like that inside my body. It was freaky and now I'm freaking my self out again.

Today, while listening to the playlist another song came on that shook me like it never have before and it is called: "MONEY".

I can't say that my feelings are precise, all I know is that I PHYSICALLY FEEL something when my energies are tuned in to whatever the situation is.

Now, ya'll will probably say that I'm wacky in the head, but that's just how it is. I may be wacky, but it's a good wacky. (haha)


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Mytake:

I have been enjoying your posts.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Good evening, everyone.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:12 pm ET

mytake - You're not wacky, but rather realistic and observant.


mytake   August 29th, 2009 11:21 pm ET

Susan: I was intending to mention about the missing security tape. In fact, I keep thinking about trying to call into one of the CNN shows to ask about it, but the lines are always so busy.

That room they said was torn up with papers and stuff all over it...plus...90 degrees. Why was the room so messed up?

You're a doctor and your patient is getting treatments in a filthy room...What? Does Murray have an answer for that?

Also, there was a report that some millions $ were missing that Michael kept on hand. Was this a rumor or was it really true?

The other thing I forgot to mention was how much damage did the CPR do to Michael's chest and throat. Isn't it a fact that there should have been excessive bruising marks on his chest from the pressure or even broken bones. I don't know if they have looked into this or not, but there is so much that the coroners should already know. After all that pressure, of course, there should have been bruises but would the bruising look like someone had roughed him up or would the bruises look different? I wonder.

Murray must be an artist in the art of cover up, but the coroner has more info than what has been reported and I'm sure it will all come out later.

We have to PRAY that Michael's honor will be secured and proven that he was a victim of his own physical breakdown.


Jacquelyn   August 29th, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Mytake

Keep doing what you doing. There is nothing wacky or bad about it


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:23 pm ET

@mytake - quite a difference between your first post and your second.


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:29 pm ET

Mytake - I know when my son received CPR that his chest was bruised. There was concern about cracked ribs as well. My son is a large guy – I can only imagine how Michael must have looked after hours of recessitation attempts.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:32 pm ET

Well, the room was all torn up because someone was obviously searching for something.


mytake   August 29th, 2009 11:36 pm ET

Thank you, Lori and Nicole.

I'm happy that you are enjoying my posts, Lori. I'm glad you both think I'm all right in the head. (haha)

Seriously, though, I am so clear in my head about things that sometimes I find it hard to shut it down. I see everything so, matter of factly. I don't think it helps me in the fun category of my life, since I don't have many friends to speak of. (haha)

But when I think about, I kinda of like my solitude and every other few days getting a phone call or not. I don't like a lot of confusion around me.

I could never be a Super Star. I wouldn't want to come out of the hotel room to meet anybody. (haha) Michael did well to get along as good as he did with So Much on his plate.

Again, thank you for understanding what I feel. I like to express myself as you can tell. (haha)


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:36 pm ET

I do not think Murray is very good at "the art of the cover up". I think he had help on that one.


Farewell   August 29th, 2009 11:37 pm ET

@Lori. This is insane this people deliberated KILLED Michael don't you see? Murray didn't act alone he is the scape goat he is going down but I bet there are others !!! That Thome is very IF to me Jermaine found him who knows where ! I don't know everything is so sad and I am very angry! Poor Baby!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:37 pm ET

I question whether Murray ever attempted to perform CPR at all - other than the act perfromed during the infamous 911 call.


Jacquelyn   August 29th, 2009 11:40 pm ET

Lori

I agree he made too many mistakes.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:44 pm ET

Ok, why is Cherilyn Lee now being touted as "Jackson's Family Nutritionist?" Well, alrighty then.


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:46 pm ET

@Jacquelyn - I am just afraid that law enforcement made too many mistakes as well. They were a little slow on the uptake.


mytake   August 29th, 2009 11:46 pm ET

Lori: In my first post, I was outlining my thoughts and in the second post I was just writing generally, responding to the other posters that had answered my post.

Also in the third post I was just writing generally. Perhaps I should outline them more because you like that style. It's just the format that I use sometime when I want to show a definitive thought process.

When I'm replying to someone, I don't think of outlining. Odd, huh?

Outlining is less personal, I guess, so maybe that's why I didn't do it.

You're keeping me on my toes, Lori.


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:50 pm ET

@mytake. I am finding your posts enlightening so, please continue to post in whatever style makes you the most comfortable. It has been rather a difficult day, has it not?

I could have sworn I saw Michael's face in the clouds today.


mytake   August 29th, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Jacquelyn: Thank you. Sometimes I rub people the wrong way with my over analytical thoughts, but then I never believe that it's me and I usually let them know, that it's them on the dark side of having a mind to work with.

Thanks to everyone for being so thoughtful and "getting what I'm saying". (smile)


mytake   August 29th, 2009 11:53 pm ET

Correction: I usually let them know, that it’s them on the dark side of NOT having a mind to work with.


Brigida, Italy   August 29th, 2009 11:54 pm ET

mytake:
don't worry, it's nothing bad on doing and thinking how your feelings tell you. We also are doing it since day 1 of this tragedy and I don't think we are all weird 😉

One question. About money and jewelry missing. Did I understand well? The room was all upside/down? So... I'm thinking from a lot of time that whoever was searching anything could have taken also documents like the latest will? Maybe court has got an older one and MIchael had changed several arrangements. Perhaps Murray knew anything or someone else and gave the order to Murray to look at it? Was this one of the phonecalls he did?

Ok, I wish you a good night (here it is 5.45 am and I'm up since 8am), will read you tomorrow. Let me have a little bit of sleep before I become really weird 😉


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 29th, 2009 11:54 pm ET

Interesting, because analytical is exactly what comes to mind in reading your posts.


Maria   August 29th, 2009 11:55 pm ET

Re 90 degrees hot: It's not impossible that they had heated the room before he died, if MJ was complaining of being cold and shivering (Cherilynn Lee mentioned this symptom at a point, but there were other stories that he liked the room to be heated).
On the other hand, Murray might have heated the room to keep the body warm. But you don't have to be a doctor to know that if a dead body stays in a heated room, all the processes that occur immediately after death accelerate big time, first of all the forming of livor mortis.

Re CPR: CPR can cause bruises and broken bones. But was there an official confirmation that he had broken bones? It was only a tabloid that claimed to know such details about the autopsy.


Jacquelyn   August 29th, 2009 11:55 pm ET

They probably did that intentionally, Lori. With Law Enforcement I mean.


Patty Anderson   August 29th, 2009 11:55 pm ET

Good evening everyone.


Lori   August 29th, 2009 11:58 pm ET

@Mytake - sorry didn't mean to appear less than friendly.


Jacquelyn   August 29th, 2009 11:58 pm ET

You welcome, Mytake

Your post certainly make a person think.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:01 am ET

Ladies you ahve been busy today


Brigida, Italy   August 30th, 2009 12:01 am ET

Ok, I'm really tired and so forgot to say sometihing...
About broken ribs and other damage, don't forget, we didn't get the whole report from the authopsy. It's still to come (perhaps). So we can only imagine and have to wait for the remaining.

Good night!


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:01 am ET

Thought provoking friendly conversation is always nice, late at night.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:02 am ET

Night, Brigida


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:02 am ET

No matter how much someone gets the chills, a 90-degree room in the heat of Summer is suspect within itself. I wonder what clothing Murray wore when the medics arrived.

Did he change before going to the hospital? Was he sweaty? If he was not drenched with perspiration, then he wasn't in Michael's room that long.

Or, conversely, Michael's heart did not arrest within the room where medics attempted to revive him.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:03 am ET

Good night (or morning to you), Brigida.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:08 am ET

Nicole excellent questions, but I'm sure we will never know.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:10 am ET

It would be very helpful to actually know something. All the discrepancies make coping with things very hard.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:12 am ET

Right you are Lori. Makes it very hard and frustrating.

I'm trying to catch up on all the reading from today


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

Patty, I hope that isn't the case. I just wonder what photos of the home were taken before things were moved out, etc. This appears to be puzzle, but one that can be resolved with correct approaches to the issues at hand.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:14 am ET

I have to say that I was really disapointed that MTV failed to acknowledge Michael's birthday.


mytake   August 30th, 2009 12:17 am ET

Lori: I didn't look at any clouds today because I was watching videos and writing letters on websites.

I wanted to sleep, but I couldn't lay down because I knew I would waste the day away and not get anything done.

I haven't even touched the cake that I baked yesterday...and I baked it for Michael's birthday. (haha) That's the first time I've done that. I guess it was something that I figured was cute to do. My son will devour it when he comes home from visiting over the weekend. I might get 2 slices.

You're talking about clouds, I had a birdie come to my window about 4 days after the tragic news. Get this...I heard this whistle...like tweet tweeeet, then again, tweet tweeeet. I was like where is this bird at? So I went to my window and there he was...sitting in the tree facing toward my window on a leafless area on a branch so that I could see him clearly.

I looked at him for about 10 seconds and then he looked at me directly and shook his little head side to side as though to say he saw me watching him and then like a flash he flew off to the right.

I was so happy, because I said to myself, that was Michael, coming to say hello. (haha) I like to do stuff like that. It gives things a purpose. Then I thought of a fan letter that I had written to Michael in 2006 and I told him that as I was walking down the street there was a birdie sitting on a fench. He didn't fly off right away and I in my wicked imagination spoke to the bird and said, "Yeah, I know".

Now this is where it gets even weirder...I answered that way because believe it or not I was playing a game that it seems as if the bird said..."He's waiting on you to write letter."

So when the birdie was at my window that day, I just remembered that crazy little story that I told him about the bird. In my letter, I told him that he didn't have to believe me...plus I can't say if he really read the letter, but maybe he did. Who knows? (haha)

Now if that's not vivid imagination or psychic ability, I don't know what is. (haha)


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:18 am ET

I hope I am wrong also. It is a wonder what all was taken from the house. Might shed some light on everything and answer some questions.

Lori that is very disappointing. The ratings Michael brought to MTV and they couldn't do anything today.

Shame on you MTV.


angelwings   August 30th, 2009 12:20 am ET

hi all


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:22 am ET

True...MTV did absolutely nothing. They have so many hours of raw footage of interviews they could have aired today. They had better get it together and do a huge tribute to Michael at the VMA's!!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:23 am ET

Awww, that's so cute...tweet tweet. How touching. 🙂


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:24 am ET

@Mytake – You are very creative. I like your bird story.


lex   August 30th, 2009 12:25 am ET

hey evrybody


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:27 am ET

Hey lex, how was your day?


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

Hey Lex.


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 12:28 am ET

Yes MTO should honor him highly.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:29 am ET

Hi angelswings.


mytake   August 30th, 2009 12:33 am ET

Brigida: I'm sorry I didn't get to answer your posts before you left the site. I need to stop writing such long posts. When I finish I then see that 6 or 7 posts have been posted and I was still on the one.

I'll try to shorten my thoughts.

Nice deducing about the possible latest will. I had felt this could be possible too, because I don't know why Michael would fail to keep a current one.

I think Murray was calling the people in charge of his schemes to help with his lies to be told, because he figures that he can get off with a technicality if he has a stupid enough reason for doing what he did. He might try to claim that he panicked and lost his mind for 2 hours or so and then came to his senses and the situation hadn't changed... he still had an important megastar's body in front of him.

He's got to pay for this. There's no doubt in my mind.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:34 am ET

mytake - you just have a lot on your mind; nothing wrong with that.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:35 am ET

Murray may try to plead that new defense "Celebrity Doctor Syndrome"

Not.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:36 am ET

I cannot help but wonder if someone confiscated a later Will in the midst of the melee which occurred on 6/25. Why was the safe open and emptied?


sarah   August 30th, 2009 12:39 am ET

Have to go now, takecare all Bloggers hopefully we get some new news in the coming weeks.......................

BYE

FANS OF MJ FROM PAKISTAN!!PEACE!!!!


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:40 am ET

@Nicole, I have had that very same thought about another will. It just seems that someone in Michael's position would have updated his estate plan much more frequently.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:41 am ET

Goodnight Sarah or is it Morning in Pakistan? I can never keep track of the time zones.


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 12:41 am ET

MTV***** correction


mytake   August 30th, 2009 12:42 am ET

hi angelwings. hi lex.

Lori and Nicole: I have this things about birds. I use to look for RED ones in my backyard and every time I would see one, I would always that it meant good luck. Now, I don't know where I got that from. No one ever told me that bit of information, but it would always make me happy to see one. Maybe that was the ticket. Seeing a RED bird makes you happy. (haha)

I watched BET most of day. They were showing videos and hour long shows of clips of Michael's career. I didn't know that MTV didn't do anything. I think they didn't know what to do. They suck anyway.

I knew that VH1 shows the movie the Jacksons: An American Dream last night.

Even TVGUIDE channel had on this silly movie that Flex starred in and I hated it when it first aired. Mainly because I heard that some of the movie was flat out lies.


sarah   August 30th, 2009 12:42 am ET

yah its morning 😀


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:42 am ET

I wonder what was really being housed in the Houston storage facility. LaQuisha and LaQuanda weren't just out there picking up "used needles" and a "chair." How long had Michael really been dead? Murray called Houston very early that morning.

THROW 'EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 12:43 am ET

The newer Will would more than likely have family members more involved.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:45 am ET

Good night Sarah Take care

Nicole wasn't it said they were seen carrying out boxes? Can't the police threaten them with charges of being accomplises if they don't tell the truth?


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:45 am ET

@Mytake - don't know about RED birds. I've always heard that it was the "bluebird of hapiness", but whatever floats your boat, I always say.
Myself, I enjoy the wild canaries and the hummingbirds.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:45 am ET

Hi Jacquelyn. Was there ever another will found?


Cindy   August 30th, 2009 12:46 am ET

There was an interview with a well known coroner today and he stated that from the official autopsy report it was the Profanol that killed Michael. He understands from the way the LA coroner made his statement that it was an overdose of Profanol that killed Michael and that Michael would have died immediately. Where was Dr. Murray? Did he leave the room immediately after giving Michael the Profanol. If he had been there and monitored him he surely would have noticed that Michael stopped breathing right away and it looks like he left right away and in my book I consider that down right murder. Maybe not intentional but murder still. It was also stated that one of the phone calls Dr. Murray made while Michael was laying there was first to Dr. Klein and the other to his attorney. The didn't say who the third one was to but the quack already knew Michael was dead right away and all the so called attempts he "claims" he tried to revive Michael would have been in vain. I wonder if he even tried since he was more concerned about protecting himself by calling his lawyer right away. The man knows he is guilty and immediately started dreaming up his stories and getting lawyered up. It sickens me to think this man was pretending to try to revive Michael when he knew darn well Michael had been dead for quite awhile before he even called 911. Guilty, guilty, guilty!


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 12:48 am ET

Not yet, Patty


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:49 am ET

I agree with you totally mytake.
I am praying for murder 2 charges. That's the least he should be charged with. He is a doctor that took an oath.
He did not have Michaels best interest in his head at all only $$$$$


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:49 am ET

mytake - I live in the country and I love robins. We see all sorts of birds out here; little gold chested birds, all types.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


mytake   August 30th, 2009 12:51 am ET

I didn't know about the safe being opened and emptied, but I guess that's how LaToya knew that the millions were missing. Hmmm. Murray has the cash stashed in a bus terminal locker, like in the movies.

Wouldn't that be trip, if he actually took the money after Michael told him that he would be fired for asking for a RAISE or that Michael caught him looking through his things.

Why would Murray know that there was a videotape of Michael's room?

Unless all the rooms are videotaped, wouldn't there be some footage of movement upstairs around or down the hall or something from Michael's room.

It wasn't fair that everyone was told that Michael had cardiac arrest and nothing suspicious was thought on the onset of this tragedy.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:52 am ET

@Cindy. I agree. I think there should be murder charges. They should at least try for murder 1. I think that the attempts at coverup could prove intent.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 12:54 am ET

Patty - According to the storage unit manager, they were carrying out a few boxes. I thought it was funny that their own uncle told the tabloids they'd been there. Although I wonder whose Mercedes was at the facility.

And also, why were the cameras at the unit mysteriously broken? Are there any other commercial buildings in the area with surveillance footage?

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 12:54 am ET

@Mytake

Ohhh good theories. You are very, very good at this. Do you think others, beside Murray are involved in this mess?

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 12:59 am ET

Nicole I didn't realize it was the uncle that spoke with the tabloids. Interesting.
Camera's mysteriously broken. You know somedays when I think about this whole thing it really makes me wonder if this was not a planned happening with Murray and certain others.
It's just so strange how he was packed and ready to leave for London in just days and suddenly he's gone.
Do we really believe AEG intended for these concerts to happen?


Maria   August 30th, 2009 1:01 am ET

News of the World (yeah) says Murray will claim he set the drip only for 25 mg of propofol, but MJ was the one who reset the drip to increase the dosage and killed himself by accident. Either it's the imagination of the tabloid or Murray hasn't really too many options left for his defense strategy.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:02 am ET

@Nicole

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I love it!


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:03 am ET

Patty: I've felt this man was guilty of everything under the sun from day one (1).

He looks like he's the type of man who is crooked and has gotten away with lot of illegal things.

He told the "tooth". What type of person sits there and says, "Don't worry, I'm fine."

I almost thought he was going to say, "Don't worry be happy" at first.

He never mentioned that he was sadden over the loss of "HIS FRIEND", as he told this reporter that interviewed him the next day. Poppycock! He was not Michael's friend. He worked for or killed for money.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:03 am ET

mytake - I have been suspicious from the beginning. Many of us have said from the very beginning that Michael was murdered. In a mansion of that size, there would have to be surveillance cameras rolling throughout the residence. I don't believe that Michael would have selected a home lacking such a security set-up.

Given the time that the killer attempted to cover his crime, this allowed plenty of time to dispose of the security tape.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:04 am ET

Correction:

He never mentioned that he was sadden over the loss of “HIS FRIEND”, as he told this reporter that interviewed him the next day that Michael was his friend.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:05 am ET

How can anyone claim that this was Michael's fault? That is just ridiculous.! We will not allow that to happen.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:10 am ET

Patty - It has been my contention, from the very beginning, that Ratty Phillips and Co. are in this up to their sorry eyeballs.

There are far too many coincidences. They didn't count on DEA involvement.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:11 am ET

@Mytake - I know. I was totally expecting him to say "Don't worry, be happy now!". My daughter and I both broke into song at that point. I really think it would have enhanced Dr. Murray's attempt at humanizing himself if he had done so. It angers me that no one seems to feel like they have done anything wrong. Maybe Murray was just the stooge and there was someone else calling the shots.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL.


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 1:11 am ET

Nicole

You just started a slogan for everyone 🙂


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:13 am ET

Maria - Murray is delusional. Michael killed himself with Diprivan. Yeah, right. He is really reaching right about now, trying to save his behind from the clink.

Word to Murray: Bubba's keeping it warm for you. Don't drop the soap.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:16 am ET

ROFL Jacquelyn! 😀


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 1:17 am ET

You have got to be kidding me Mara. What the hell is wrong with with people.

Lori They will say Michael is at fault because quack Murray is saying Michael demanded it. That statement alone is what everyone will use against Michael.
All those drugs he gave him before the Propofol. How could he possibly be alert enough to demand anything.

mytake many of us have felt that way since the very beginning.
You are on the same track we have been on.
We have another MJCSI member ladies.
Have we heard from Toni, Rhonda or Linda today?
I worry about you ladies if I don't see you on here daily now.

This has just been soooooooo difficult.


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:18 am ET

Maria: In order for this man's lies to hold water, he has to first get someone to believe that after all of those drugs he pumped into Michael that he would have conscious enough to understand what Murrray was doing.

According to reports, Michael weighed only 110 pounds or something and even though he might have had a tolerance for some of those drugs, there's no way that he would have had clarity to change a drip to full blast 50mg and then start it.

The method of using Propofol is that the patient can't be the one to initiate it. So, if Murray is trying to now say that Michael did this, then he stood there and let him? Where is that not CRIMINAL, ALSO?

This man has gotten away with abusing his girlfriends and the case got thrown out of court either because the woman refused to testify or he intimidated her to refuse to testify.

They made notice that this man is around 6'3 and had about 50 pounds or more on Michael. Michael wouldn't have had a chance to protect himself, from this snake if he had intended on taking what he wanted i.e., cash and jewelry.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 1:20 am ET

Jacquelyn. It's an excellent slogan


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:32 am ET

Lori asked: Do you think others, beside Murray are involved in this mess?

Murray is the bottom feeders. He's the throw-away. Good if he gets off, no loss if he gets thrown in box.

This might upset a couple of people, but today I thought, "Does Oprah know Dr. Murray?"

He seems like someone that may have rubbed elbows with her, but where eyes couldn't see. Uncaringly, she has avoided making a statement about Michael's tragedy, but I'm not surprised.

I just know that possibly Michael found himself in a room with a man that cared nothing about him and maybe Michael didn't know that this guy had been arrested twice before for assault on 2 women.

When I said in an earlier post that Michael probably finally figured out something about this guy...this could have been it and it started the chain of events going the wrong way for Michael.

Murray saw $$$ and Michael's life meant nothing to him. If he goes to jail he won't come out. I bet you. Michael has fans in prison, most surely.


Patty Anderson   August 30th, 2009 1:33 am ET

Good night everyone have to work in the morning. Keep the thoughts rolling.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:34 am ET

mytake - Precisely. With Michael placed under deep anesthesia, Murray could do pretty much whatever he wanted. That is a dangerous position for someone with Murray's financial problems.

He would have access to Michael's riches, with no one to prevent him from taking things. After all, no other staff were allowed upstairs. I suppose security was? They called the medics from there, correct?

Who remained at the house once Michael was transported to the hospital? What could have been taken once other staff members were told to vacate the premises?

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:37 am ET

Good night, Patty.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:39 am ET

@Mytake - I think this is, as La Toya said, a conspiricy.


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 1:39 am ET

Sure Murray killed him but he didnt work alone. First of all Michael was the reason for Murray getting his financial troubles back on track he would not deliberately kill his client on his own. Now if he was giving orders to that is another story. Michael shady inner circle had full control over him, thats why his family was pushed aside.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:42 am ET

And why does the letter Frank DiLeo allegedly sent out (although he denies it) portrays him as Michael's manager "in life and death." Say what?

The letter stated that only his company is authorized to promote any tribute concerts. Hmmm....all about the money - again.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:42 am ET

My heart breaks for the Jackson Family.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:43 am ET

Nicole: Kai the cook said that everyone was asked to leave the house and they did while the EMT were there.

Murray could have been stealing for weeks and Michael confronted him. It's possible that the Stripper girlfriend of Murray was putting the squeeze on him about paying child support.

I think Murray left with the EMTs and went to the hospital, BUT he had all night with everyone asleep and Michael, sadly no longer with us, to collect whatever wasn't nailed down.

The LAPD should question that Stripper. She might have the money and the jewelry. Murray could have slipped it to her in out the back door and she took it and ran. Why hasn't that person been questioned?

She has probably been all up in the house when people are sleeping. She may have wanted payments and Murray let her in to take what she wanted.


Maria   August 30th, 2009 1:47 am ET

The tabloid might have guessed something, but only something – Murray will probably say that MJ used to self-administer propofol and/or other drugs. But the police affidavit (the first one) quotes Murray who said he remained in the room until MJ went to sleep and cca 10 minutes after that.
And his lawyer Chernoff did contest so far only the specific timeline as it appears in the affidavit (Murray leaving for only 2 minutes to the bathroom), but not other important things, such as if Murray stayed or not in the room until MJ went to sleep.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:48 am ET

@Mytake - That is another new angle I hadn't thought of. Dr. Murray's baby mama could be implicated in this. I wonder if any one from law enforcemt has spoken to her. I am getting so upset again. Michael DID NOT deserve this fate.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Jacquelyn   August 30th, 2009 1:49 am ET

mytake

The stripper scenario, I highly doubt. A stripper is the worst person to give that type of money too. Plus she would have bragged to her friends and it would have gotten back to Michael or whoever. I doubt anyone in Michael inner circle would have allowed an unknown outsider take money from him.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 1:50 am ET

mytake - This is a real possibility. Murray comes in at night, administers Diprivan to Michael. While he's knocked out, a time has been scheduled for the stripper to come to the house to service Murray.

Cigarettes, weed. Yes, this is plausible.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


mytake   August 30th, 2009 1:52 am ET

Nicole said: And why does the letter Frank DiLeo allegedly sent out (although he denies it) portrays him as Michael’s manager “in life and death.” Say what?>>

I haven't watched any news today, so I hadn't heard this about DiLeo. I suppose with his knowing Michael since the 70's/80's he and Michael were considerably close again. I heard that the first time he was fired, but it wasn't by Michael it was by the record company years ago. I think I heard that Michael and he finally had gotten back together when Michael decided to do this tour.

And Cherilyn Lee had said that she was a nutritionist nurse. That she had been giving Michael Vitamin cocktails for his health.

I can only hope and pray that Mrs. Jackson and the kids are getting everything that she asked for. I know that she hasn't been allowed on the Trustee Board yet and I don't know why they won't let her do that.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 1:57 am ET

@Mytake

It is absolutely outrageous that there is not a Jackson Family member involved in the estate administration. That is why I think there must be a more current will.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:00 am ET

mytake - If Ms. Katherine isn't allowed on the Trustee Board, it would be a wise decision on the part of the Special Administrators to appoint one of the grandchildren.

Taj, for example. He would make an excellent choice, not to mention carrying the torch for the next generation of up-and-coming Jacksons. I nominate Taj.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:00 am ET

I also wonder if Cherilyn Lee had some connection to Dr. Murray. I always thought it was odd when she brought up diprivan/propofol out of the blue when nobody had ever heard of it.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:02 am ET

Nicole - Taj does seem like a likley candidate for the trustee board.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:06 am ET

I had another WILD THOUGHT. Every time there's a leak of sorts from the LAPD, Murray's attorney jumped right in and says that this is not what Murray told them and that they should wait to hear all the facts before they condemn Murray....NOW, my WILD thought is...Could Murray's attorney know someone on the LAPD and in a reverse situation...this guy reports things slightly incorrect to throw suspicion, but when it comes out...the facts are different and Murray's attorney can use this in court to say that his client was wrongfully judged in the Public Opinion and how can he now get a fair trial?

My wheels keep turning...(haha)

Anything is possible. There is tons of money involved and everybody wants a piece of the action. If Murray told his attorney, "I have something, but you got to help me get out of this and things can go your way."

Woooo. I should have been a judge or something. (haha) I going to mentally figure this out for Michael.

Convict Conrad won't get away from my storm. (haha)


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:06 am ET

Lori - Cherilyn Lee is a most interesting character in this case. True, she mentioned Diprivan before anyone else even thought of it.

Interestingly enough, according to search affidavits, Conrad Murray mentioned her name in his initial interviews with authorities. It was a while after that when Lee came forward and pinpointed Diprivan as a possible element of involvement in Michael's murder, ur...death.

Murray evidently knew who Cherilyn Lee was - before she spoke to the press.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Maria   August 30th, 2009 2:06 am ET

Mytake, AFAIK LaToya was the only one who wondered why there wasn't any substantial money left in the house, since she believed that MJ always used to keep a few millions of cash. How did she know that there was no money or that something was missing, given that no member of the family ever entered the house in recent months? Did she search everywhere in the house for money and didn't find anything? Was she the one who told the police about the "tar heroin bag"?
There will be many speculations for sure. I, for one, prefer not to think about any conspiration until I see that the family files the wrongful death suit. Because no such suit can be started if they don't have enough proofs.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:11 am ET

@Mytake - Not such a WILD THOUGHT. I've been wondering if Murray is somehow co-operating or has already worked out some kind of a deal. One thing I do know as that everyone needs to go down for this. I am still so sad that Michael is gone and everytime I think of his family it just hurts my heart. It is so difficult to wait for justice. I would like a little hint of what is going to happen.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:16 am ET

Correction: I'm going to mentally figure this out for Michael.

Convict Conrad won't get away from my (brain)storm. (haha)

******
It's possible if they are interested in giving that position to Taj, that he would do the Jacksons proud.

Lori: I think that Cherilyn Lee's coming out to tell this about the use of this Propofol was rather a plus for Michael than a minus.

I'm thinking that if she really did speak with Michael on Father's Day, that perhaps it was laying on her brain that she should've done something to prevent Michael from getting deeper into something that he wasn't going to get out of.

Since Michael had told her that he had been given this stuff before, she supposedly felt handcuffed and couldn't make the decision to bring it to light when Michael was up and about. So when she knew that the worse had happened, it probably hit her hard. She did seem to be in distress a couple of times when she was being interviewed, especially that first time on Larry King Live.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:17 am ET

mytake - That is probably what Murray has up his sleeve. The authorities took way too long in searching his residence, places of business, etc. It is apparent that he did something very shady during the period that he went underground following Michael's death.

After the deed is done and items are concealed, he emerges from obscurity. Who aided and abetted him during this window of time?

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:21 am ET

Well then, they must be trying to get everyone up the food chain as well.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:28 am ET

Maria: I think it a misjudgement to the public how close Michael may have been to LaToya. It's possible that she spoke to him alot over the phone, like when he would call home to speak with Mrs. Jackson.

Doesn't LaToya live there, too?

Yes, she is the one who thought the rancid reefer was tar heroin. She probably was inquisitive and had the right instincts to go in that room and seek out whatever she could find to assist the LAPD.

I don't think I could have gone in there and touched anything. She also made sure that she took all of Michael's computer harddrives, so prevent anyone else from taking them and stealing whatever information was on them.

Also, it could be possible that Michael had a file on his computer stating that he kept money on the premises, but I feel that maybe LaToya knew because he verbally told her.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:35 am ET

I will always beleive that Michael was close to all of his family members. The public does not know these things anyway. I think Michael only allowed the public to know what he wanted them to know. Aside from being a musical genius, he must have been the most fascinating man. I wish I would have been privleged to know him. It is so wrong that he is gone. I wish there was more I could for the family other than to continue to pray for all of them. Today must have been so difficult for his children.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:36 am ET

mytake - La Toya definitely did the right thing by going in and removing items of value to Michael. It was a wise move on her part. Family always comes first. You protect each other, no matter what.

One thing I absolutely hate to see is when the media shows old clips of La Toya's statements - from when she was married to that awful Jack character.

She has evolved and has long since been forgiven for her actions. People need to leave the past where it belongs - in the past.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:42 am ET

I'm going to have to go in a minute you guys.

Today, I was supposed to look over all the 10 or 12 magazines that I've bought in the last month commemorating Michael. I can try to do it tomorrow or Monday. I saved them without even taking them out of the bags. I wanted to look at them all in one sitting.

Nicole: For sure Murray was working his butt off getting his angles straight, though nothing is going to save him. He's under the impression that because Michael had such a shifty public view of him from the American people, that he has a chance to look better than Michael in this corruption of a situation.

I'm so disgusted with all that has happened. I know that God has a timeline on all of us and it's not always known what route will be taken to get us gone, but the manner of this crime against Michael is so disheartening and it wasn't EXPECTED.

I do feel that regardless of reality, I still have this feeling inside my heart that I can sense him and even imagine him and oddly enough, I'm not afraid of it. I talk to his photo on the 2009 Calendar and I even believe that other things have happened to make me feel his presence.

I guess it's all in how you experienced him in your life.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:46 am ET

mytake - I understand. I also have to go. I have to be in church in matter of hours. 🙂

It was a pleasure blogging theories with you. Take care! 🙂


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:48 am ET

Mytake – thank you for sharing with us this evening. You made some really good points and gave me a lot to think about it. Hope to talk to you again in the future. I wish there was some way to turn this horrible horrible disaster into something better.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:48 am ET

mytake - One more thing. God never slumbers, nor does he sleep. No one will get away with anything. You can believe that!

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:51 am ET

LaToya has a strong character like Mr. Joesph Jackson. She's outspoken and has good knowledge of what needs to be said.

I saw the repeats of that speech on BET today and I thought why do they have to do that.

Following her speech, though, was Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Jackson to dispute what LaToya said. Mr. Joe didn't say much, but Mrs. Katherine spoke openly about LaToya and her issues at the time and how she couldn't speak for Michael, but she knew that Michael didn't do anything wrong.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:55 am ET

That is what family is for, Mytake, In times of trouble the family comes together. I just keep all the Jackson's in my prayers. I wish I could do more.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 2:56 am ET

mytake - Mrs. Katherine is a very strong Black woman. She has raised many children and grandchildren. I am constantly praying intercessory prayers for the Jackson family.

God will see them through this ordeal. No one will get away with anything. God is not a man that He should lie, and He is not the Son of man that He should repent. There will be justice one way or another. And God is the ultimate Judge.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Lori   August 30th, 2009 2:57 am ET

@Mytake

If you are leaving...I hope you have sweet dreams.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL


mytake   August 30th, 2009 2:58 am ET

Okay, I'll try to catch up with all of you another time. Thanks for being so inviting and not throwing me out of here. It has been a pleasure for me also to chat with interesting people and interesting views that matched my views.

Goodnight!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 3:01 am ET

Goodnight!! Take care! 🙂


Lori   August 30th, 2009 3:02 am ET

Goodnight Mytake – hope you find us again.

JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL, ALWAYS


mytake   August 30th, 2009 3:09 am ET

Oh, I didn't see your last post Lori...I might be too sleepy to dream. But it would be nice.

Nicole, have a good day at Church. I pray at home, on long walks or anywhere I need to talk to him. The good thing is...that he hears me and I see the results of my prayer. It's nice that we all have a piece of security from his love.

Chat with you guys later.


Lori   August 30th, 2009 3:16 am ET

Hope so, mytake. 🙂


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   August 30th, 2009 3:18 am ET

mytake - I know you're gone by now. You're right, He's everywhere. Wherever we are and whenever we need Him, He's there. So true. I don't know how I would survive without Him.

Nice talking with you tonight.

THROW ‘EM IN THE CAN FOR DIPRIVAN


Susan   August 30th, 2009 4:37 am ET

Aug. 29, 10:16 pm above.

Just a heads up.....The above comment was not from me, the Susan who blogs on MJ topic since June 25. Wanted to get it clarified as I don't hold her same opinion. Thank you.


Hanim   August 30th, 2009 10:07 am ET

than u mytake!
ur first post is exactly what ive been feeling this whole time..
whatever 'spiritual psychic' experiences that u have, just remember that nothing is a coincidence.
hope u guys keep the updates coming. im on here everyday.
i just dont post as much, cuz most of the time u guys already say what i want to say.

i just really really need to find out ; what happend to the video tapes in the house, n why the media arent asking abt them at all?
and, about the more recent will.
n most importantly, why the heck murray began m,aking the3 47minute phonecalls beginning 11.15am, when he JUST discovered MJ not breathing at 11am? any normal idiot wudve known to at least call for help in the house immediately, if not the paramedics. its almost as if; he found MJ not breathing after "2 minutes" leaving for the restroom if he WAS only gone for two minutes, he cudve tried to revive him immediately, as CPR has a 5 minute window of effectiveness from the moment the person stops breathing. why did he just 'quit' n go n make these 3 other phone calls? i shud think thats more than enuff to bring him in the slammer – cuz its too ridiculuos.


mariau   August 30th, 2009 11:44 am ET

this are my wishes — before June 25, 2009

1. i just wish that Dr. Murray is having a bad day and he was on his way going to MJ’s mansion and suddenly bad luck come.. He had accident to a trailer truck… guess.. his in critical condition.

2. i just wish that Michael went to Germany come back on June 26, 2009.

3. i just wish that Miko Brando is with Michael, chatting and laughing until they get tired. Miko stay with Michael until the next day.. Miko will check MJ if he’s ok.

4. i just wish that Paris, Prince and blanket ask their Dad to visit their Grandmother .. and stay there overnight.

5. i just wish that Joe Jackson come to visit Michael. but the security said no.. then Joe punch the secuirty and enter the house immediately. Joe and MIchael having a good converstaion.. and Joe and MIchael fired the security for not let Joe to enter.. Joe file a complaint to security and their all fired.. and the Jacksons brothers come to rescue MJ>>

this are all my wishes before JUNE 25, 2009


R.N.   August 30th, 2009 12:48 pm ET

HAS ANYONE DRUG TESTED DR.MURRAY???? Please do so! I wouldn't doubt that he was impaired in addition breaking Standard of Care after Standard of Care! When is the last time anyone has done ONE HANDED CPR on a grown man!???

DRUG TEST CONRAD MURRAY!!!!!!


Inge from holland   August 30th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

Murray should be given some propofol!


Gerald Jolly   August 30th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

You are all right.
Dr. DEATH, MURRAY, must be held accountable for M.J.'s death, no question about that.
"BUT" Micheal was 50 years old, and reputed to be reasonably intelligent??
Is it true that Dr. Death Murray put a gun to M.J.'s head and forced him to take those drugs?? "I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE"
Is it true that M.J. warned Dr, Death Murray that if he did not give him the "DRUG COCKTAIL" that he would be fired and the outstanding $103,000 bill would not be paid "I FIND THAT QUIET EASY TO BELIEVE" Micheal did the same to other physicians he har hired for his personal needs.
I will make a prediction now. Dr.Death Murray will have his license to practice medicine "REVOKED" and that is all he will suffer as a result of his complicity in M.J.'s death.
I also predict that when this case goes to trial more than one Dr. will be called to testify as to their dealings with M.J. and all will say that they encountered the same threats from M.J.
"CASE CLOSED"
MARK MY WORDS ON THIS! August 30/09


Cocovelvet   August 30th, 2009 5:03 pm ET

Inge from Holland,

My wish too that Murray is injected with exactly the same quantity of propofol that he gave to MJ in those 6 weeks together.........and they should really give it bit by bit as he did to MJ until the final day when they finally give that lethal dose ........probably he will be lucky enough to be rescuscitated............


Naza Ragimova   August 30th, 2009 5:26 pm ET

Damn Murray...what else can I say.Even if "Dr." Conrad Murray will rot in jail it will never make Michael alive...I can not find a suitable punishment for him.


Maria   August 30th, 2009 6:30 pm ET

I also predict that when this case goes to trial more than one Dr. will be called to testify as to their dealings with M.J. and all will say that they encountered the same threats from M.J.
==========
They surely will be called to testify, but there's a huge difference between a heavily indebted Murray and a celebrity doctor like Arnold Klein, who had known and treated MJ for 20 years and became a family friend of his. Yes, Murray will probably say he was threatened in other ways too, not only with not being paid for his work and losing this big income source. But I can hardly believe that all the others were as poor and defenseless as Murray.


Gaylene   August 30th, 2009 10:13 pm ET

Put Michael to rest first, On Thursday the 3rd of September it is going to be a very sad for everyone around the world, and worse for his family and children, as they will lay him to rest (FINALLY). Then get the vulture or vultures that did this to our KING OF POP. Get justice for our KING, and lock him or them up, and throw the key away. He or they don't deserve to walk this earth. Leave them to rot in hell.I really think there is more than one person involved in the murder of our King Of Pop, and to me this is MURDER not HOMICIDE.
All My love goes out to the Jackson Family and Michael's children. God keep you safe and strong, which is what he is doing for our King Of Pop.


Susan   September 1st, 2009 2:04 pm ET

The media abuse against Michael continues. Michael Jackson was essentially, euthanized. Does anybody care? Does the media wish to continue to report on this as if it was Michael Jackson's fault? He didn't ask for that! He wanted medical professionals to care for him. He deferred to them for advice and to keep him safe.The diversion of the facts is alarming. I am infuriated and also frightened at the control we the public are under by the media machine. I will defend Michael by whatever means is available to me. CNN and Larry King, please address the facts of this homicide and do not point the finger at the victim. We can't just assume the homicide was an accident either. All possibilities need to be explored. Again I say, does anybody on the network care to address the fact that Michael Jackson, a human being, was essentially, euthanized ?


damegarbo   September 1st, 2009 3:14 pm ET

The media is blaming the victim, Michael Jackson for his own homicide. Michael put his trust, however naively, in these so called medical professionals to treat him. He was expecting the best medical care & ended up getting the worst. Do not blame the patient, the victim, Michael Jackson. He was a master at entertainment, not medicine. He should have been kept safe from harm by medical professionals. Do we care that a human life was recklessly snuffed out? Do we care to defend that?


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