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July 31, 2009

Jackson's chef on LKL last: MJ house was a happy place

Posted: 09:14 AM ET

Michael Jackson's personal chef Kai Chase says June 25 was shaping up as another typical day in the superstar's usually peaceful and orderly home until an urgent plea from Jackson's personal doctor sent panic sweeping through the household.

In an interview with CNN's Larry King that aired Thursday night, Chase described the chaotic events that fateful day and what life was life inside the Jackson family before the singer's shocking death.

Chase said she was downstairs preparing lunch for Jackson - being sure to wrap it in Saran wrap because the singer liked his meals served room-service style - when Dr. Conrad Murray called out for her. Murray is the central focus of a federal investigation into the singer's death, a law enforcement official told CNN on Wednesday.

Around noon or a little after, Chase said, "Dr. Murray comes down the stairs. There was a stairwell that leads into the kitchen. And he's screaming: Hurry! Go get Prince. Call security. Get Prince."

Chase said she quickly got Jackson's oldest son.

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Malaika   July 31st, 2009 9:38 am ET

Chase must say all she knws, i gt a feeling she is not being completely truthful


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 9:47 am ET

Murray knws hw he killed Michael cz if he was thr 4 the night & onli 2 come out "a little after noon" wat was he doin all the time frm the time he woke up to the time he went down screaming for Prince??? u dnt hv 2 be educated 2 see that this guy did something 2 Michael, LAPD must stop buying time & jus arrest this Murray please!


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 9:49 am ET

I agrre with the peaples,who say,the chef is nice.She just let us know,thet MJ was not anorexik,he was eat good,and helthy.And olso she said,wath she was see in that day.
Wath make me thinking.is tha ties.She said,the dr alvais come down to gat the brekfast,but this day he didnt go down,so,something was wrong all rady in the morning.But he was start to screaming much later,olmost at lunchtime.So,wath,did he folled a sleep,whenn he was give Micheal Diprivan,and he just finde out at lunch,whenn he wake up?


diana   July 31st, 2009 9:55 am ET

too many figures during the interview, and there was no need to bring the box that prince and paris gave her, what was the point of doing that?


Ann Crespo   July 31st, 2009 10:00 am ET

question since MJ should have been awake and with kids downstairs, something happened upstairs with the Dr, there is no doubt , Murry stop covering and tell the truth


John M   July 31st, 2009 10:02 am ET

Maybe Murray was made a scpegoat. nobody knows what was in the stash and nobody knows if someone tampered with the iv line or the bottle of diprivan itself. I do not believe this, but could be possible.
You don't even know what could have been in this Dr's mind, it was wrong for him to administer this to Michael and he knew it, but as his lawyer said he didn't give anything to Michael that would have hurt him. If this was a one time thing, I could see it being called a mistake, but the sob admitted he gave it to Michael numerous times so he knew the risks involved, but because of money, he went ahead and did it anyway. that makes him an Enabler for Hire. Find it strange AEG had that insurance policy, they either knew Michael was a User or the more likely story is they also intended for this to happen because Michael had enough of them and he was going to cancel, walk off and sue.


mariau   July 31st, 2009 10:10 am ET

Dr. murray was intruduced by Mj's bodyguards.. there's no doubt that bodyguard known something about this.

Michael using drugs for medication..


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 10:19 am ET

is LAPD acting stupidly or wat??? its crystal clear that Michael was dead b4 Murray went dwn screaming 4 Prince. LAPD shld be investigated, something is definitely wrong!


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 10:20 am ET

There is everithing wrong araund how MJ died.I just hope,that yhe polica finaly gonna doo tham job,couse the hole world woching this.


canadian   July 31st, 2009 10:33 am ET

I watched Kai on the Today Show Thursday morning. FINALLY!! someone in Michael Jackson’s life who speaks well of him. What a classy lady. Spoke of Michael as healthy & happy. Who created a loving home for his children.

All the other so called friends are a disgrace. I have lost total respect for Deepak Chopra. I thought this guy was reputable. He is nothing but a sleaze. As is Uri Keller & the Rabbi. All 3 are repeating so called personal conversations with ‘their friend Michael’ They supposedly have known him for years, did they never have any other conversations with him that didn’t center on drugs? Ridiculous. All 3 have been out of Michael’s life for years.

As for the nurse. She starts off with her first interview as “Michael asked about Diprovan”, by the time she is on her last interview “he is begging for Diprovan”

The only thing more disgraceful about these ’so called friends’ grabbing their 15 minutes on all these talk/interview shows is letting them repeat the same old same old on every show.

Once again, Kai what a lovely lady. I hope the Jackson family appreciates her.

I wonder what Deepak Chopra’s current friends are thinking seeing him betray every confidence on LKL every chance he gets. Maybe Michael was right to get rid of him years ago.


Anne Brand   July 31st, 2009 10:35 am ET

Contrary to other documented reports, Michael Jackson's chef said he ate well. It's been widely reported that he subsisted on high calorie juices for energy and endurance. Her opinion of his appearance also is contrary to what is clearly evident–that he was gaunt and frail, not fit for a huge concert tour. It also seemed odd to me that a private chef for a star would have a "publicist"–things just don't add up with her story.


Zen Bear   July 31st, 2009 10:41 am ET

It was good to have the personal Chef on. To me she looked like the kind of competent, sweet, beautiful thinking person that MJ would want to have around, and to be around his children! She displayed restraint and professionalism by refering to her employer as Mr. And, if you are in Hollywood doing that kind of work, you are going to have professional people supporting your career. Actually all the people LKL has had on his show have looked pretty presentable. But that’s not the point here at all.

Each person LKL has had on his show have provided clues. But I don’t think people are listening, really listening.

Her recount of the events has been extremely consistent from the first interview to LKL. Either she has memorized the script or she is simply telling the truth. How refreshing.

Here’s something she said repeatedly that nobody has provided a good answer for.. And I think there’s a reason for not doing so. Which is part of the conspiracy idea. (Think how much money these people were making; think how they’d really like to have their next job with a celebrity as well).

She said the doctor came down the stairs and said “Get Prince, he’s screaming very loudly”.

Either the quote wasn’t right, or the context wasn’t right. Think about it.

Why would Prince already be screaming? Where was he screaming? What did he see? Why did the doctor have “time” to tell the Chef to get him?

When LK sort of asked a followup question, but he didn’t clarify the situation at all, she said.

He was in (or might have been in) the Den which was near the Kitchen. If that poor child was screaming, then he was witness to what was going on upstairs or to something. One of the earlier reports I read said that the children, or at least Prince had seen their father collapse. That MJ had walked into where the doctor was ….and whatever happened did.

Again, this all happened in the MORNING to noon time. The children would have been expecting their father to be “awaking” and becoming available for having lunch with them (as the Chef said, he was pretty regular about this).

That means something was going on upstairs that had hyper-alerted either 1 or more of the children.

How in the world could that doctor have been spending “all that time updstairs” doing whatever….. without the first thing on his mind being …..to call for additional 911 help? Did he tell the boy to tell someone else to call 911? And Prince just started screaming?

Or couldn’t the doctor have screamed just as easily down those stairs into the Kitchen to Kai Chase to call 911? Come on, this is getting crazier and crazier.

She must have had her own cell phone and could’ve called out.

She did seem a little oblivious about whether there were any “land lines” in the house.

How or with whom did she place her “grocery, supply” order each week?

Reverse this whole situation. And imagine that one of those precious children had been having an emergency?

What do you think would have happened, and how much time would’ve elapsed until help were to arrive?

Yes, her interview was a little bit “slick” but at least she had a little more to add to the situation. But it was kind of like she might have rehearsed her “statement” keeping things pretty “neutral”.

How could she keep smiling so much….that was pretty interesting.

Anyway, I’m a highly suspicious personality and this mystery is beyond all reason.


Mara   July 31st, 2009 10:44 am ET

I think Michael was always skinny but not frail. He ate healthy organic foods. He lived like a normal hollywood star. There is nothing different with the way he ate or looked. I believe what the Chef said he ate the food she cooked and was not anorexic.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 10:50 am ET

Zen Bear- i thot Chase said Murray cme dwn screaming... saying GET PRINCE!!! not Prince screaming?


Mara   July 31st, 2009 10:52 am ET

I think the Chef said Paris was screaming and Murray was screaming for Prince


Ellie Kay   July 31st, 2009 10:56 am ET

CNN Moderators: why did this reference get deleted from a prior contribution? I'm just asking. Are we not supposed to reference other souces? And just keep our comments personal? If so, that's fine. I only want to understand the rules here. Thanks. And thanks for letting even make comments! I watch LKL every night, and now HLN too.

Anyway I thought I read somewhere, where it was reported in the New York Post that Jackson's 12-year-old son, Prince Michael, saw his father collapse and was present during the doctor's attempts to revive him.

The newspaper also quoted a family friend as saying that Dr Murray did not call 911 straight away.

The emergency services were only contacted after the singer's father Joe – who was alerted to Jackson's condition by a security guard at the singer's home – made a "huge commotion", it was alleged.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 10:57 am ET

Wath?I dont understand you Zen bear.The chef said,dr Murey was scream to gat the boy,he didnt cream before that.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 10:59 am ET

There is more new info this AM on TMZ. Police suspect he was dead around 9AM.

Murray came down sreaming for Prince/security. It was not Prince that was screaming. then once it became evident that something was really wrong, Paris started to cry.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 11:00 am ET

Ok,but thann who called later 911?That guy olso know everithing,i think.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 11:00 am ET

Ellie Kay... wat u jus said is more believable than wat Chase said, Chase is hiding sumthin IMO


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 11:01 am ET

Lynn,i dont know the amerikan times.Wath did thay say antil now?Whenn thay called 911 in AM?


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:02 am ET

As for Kai Chase i think she gave a good interview and I think alot of waht she said and showed(box) was geared at letting people know that MJ was eating not anorexic. Ate healthy, ate meals with his kids and that the kids were healthy and happy. She seemed like a genuine person who got caught up in it all.


Mara   July 31st, 2009 11:03 am ET

Lynn are you serious? Wow 9AM. Damn that Murray!


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:03 am ET

I thought the Chef said that Murray screamed "Get Prince" too. Why on earth would he call a 12 year old boy into a room where his father is grasping for his life. Dr. Murray is about as shady as they come.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:04 am ET

Stu,

Haven't heard yet who called 911. Go to TMZ and read that article, it gives a little more info.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 11:05 am ET

i honestly dnt knw why LAPD is goin in circles? this case shld be as easy as ABC, these pple are GUILTY.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:09 am ET

Lynn July 31st, 2009 11:02 am ET
I too think that Kai Chase was very genuine and honest. I really like the fact that she referred to him as Mr. Jackson–giving him the respect that he deserves. I also liked the fact that she brought that box with her showing that the children were happy and normal. Thank you Ms Chase for letting everyone know that Michael was a normal human being.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:13 am ET

Linda,

Kai Chase said that he came down calling for Prince/security. God knows why he would call for Price but the chef reports he didn't go upstairs.


Dana   July 31st, 2009 11:14 am ET

Well, thats just fine. The Dr. should have called 911 immediately


Dana   July 31st, 2009 11:17 am ET

she is not telling the truth. everyone in the house with the exception of the children are lying about what happened because no one wants to be blamed for this.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:19 am ET

Lynn;
Can use just imagine the guilt that poor is going through.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:20 am ET

Correction:
Can you just imagine the guilt that poor kid is going through.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:22 am ET

Yeah,
He probaly feels like theres something he could have done or should have know but didn't.


b   July 31st, 2009 11:26 am ET

I think Kai Chase was genuine. I believe she said everything she knew. I'm glad she brought the box. It shows us how lovely and appreciative children they are. I believed it when she said Michael eat healthy food and he is not anorexic. Even Akon mentioned it in an interview, Michael always told him to eat healthy, eat healthy. Chase said in interview that Michael said they are killing me. Could it be too much rehearsal that made him lose so much weight despite eating healthy.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:27 am ET

Lynn July 31st, 2009 11:22 am ET

I feel so sorry for him–I wish I could give him a big hug. It just breaks your heart.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:28 am ET

MJ trusted his life to an incompetent Dr that now only was giving meds he shouldn't have been giving in an environment that was inappropriate but did it without any of the monitors that should have been around.

Had they had an EKG monitor, a pulse ox and an end tital CO2 monitor he would likely not be dead. These machines have alarms on them that would sound if respirations , oxygen level ,heartrate fell too low.

I still think to do this without these monitors just goes beyond negligent. Its playing with fire. Its like Murray could have cared less if he lived or died which would be consisten with the LONG delay in 911 call.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 11:28 am ET

Linda......
me neither, i think Chase knws more than she is telling, why cnt these pple be honest 4 God's sake???


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:30 am ET

b,

Its possible, alot of exercise and he didn't seem to be a big fan of carbs.


MaryLee   July 31st, 2009 11:33 am ET

Why does a Dr. have to scream for anything? If Michael was already dead, why the theatrics? Why not quietly page one fo the staff for 911 to be dispatched quietly? Sounds like this Dr. didn't keep a firm grip on anything that morning.
Yeah Lynn, he could have just said NO to Michael and maybe? in his capacitiy as a Dr. , forget the big money, go and get Michael help? Why not refer him to a sleep center? He is as guilty as sin, no matter if Michael lived or died, which unfortunately he did, damn this guy anyway. He knew half baked what he was doing, he knew it was wrong, but he went and did it anyway because of M O N E Y and the glamour of being with Michael, Why didn't somebody give Michael a nice hot meal before bed, a hot shower and a mild sedative instead.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 11:33 am ET

Dana...
i agree, when she saw that it was nearly noon, why ddnt she ask Prince 2 check on his father or wateva, thats wat a caring person does, the whole thing is very suspicious, i hope LAPD WONT STOP TILL THEY GET ENOUGH evidence 2 put these pple behind bars!!!


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 11:38 am ET

MJ was always skinny too. Even when he was a teen then all the dancing and exercise throught his life. He had the metabolic rate that I WOULD KILL FOR!!


Michelle D. Fonthill,Ont   July 31st, 2009 11:41 am ET

The doctor should have refered MJ to sleep clinic and not given him these drugs .Michael trusted the wrong people and it hard to tell whose telling the truth in this saga .


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:48 am ET

b
My t houghts exaclty; she is not the first person to say that MJ said that they were killing him.


mariau   July 31st, 2009 11:49 am ET

it hink murray was confused that's why he called 911, he was confused if Michael is dead or just not breathing because the effect of propofol.. and He was guilty because he was irresponsible..


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 11:52 am ET

Lynn July 31st, 2009 11:38 am ET
MJ was always thin but not the way he looked on that rehearsal video. I was suprised how thin he looked.


bello   July 31st, 2009 11:53 am ET

Larry, I think it would be great if you could do a show about Michael as the most professional and loved musician ever. This came to my mind after reading Michael’s interview in Ebony magazine. And also watching the first part of Martin Bashir’s interview, how he talks about music and dance. He is a genius. You get the feeling he totally knows what he is talking about. How he writes his lyrics, make such good music, choreographs and directs. Its brilliant. How many musicians can do that? How great it would be if you could just make a show focusing on his legendary side rather than personal life. I am more interested in that. And I’m sure alot of fans or not fans will be thrilled to watch it. After Michael’s death I started watching these video’s about Michael. He seem to be the kindest person ever. Its unbelievable to see how men act crazy just like female fans. From children, men, women, old or young, black, white, asian or african adored him. You have to be a true genius plus a good human being to get that kind of love and support where ever you go. No artist had ever crossed the boundaries like Michael did. He is known all over the world. From the smallest, tiniest country to the largest. From the poor to rich. He is loved all over. I wish soemone had done an interview with him talking about his music and dance. You learn so much about music and dance just by listening to him. It’s fascinating. Just making good music doesn’t make people love you. Its some one’s heart and their character. I don’t think we will EVER see any artist like Michael. All over the world still people are crying and people are missing him. Some who have never met or seen Michael just like me. I watched a video where a fan fainted in Michael’s arm on stage and he lifted her. He is a beautiful and kind person.
I am a fan of Oprah too. She is another great women loved by many in many parts of the world. Though I don’t think even her death would create so much sadness and feeling of loss.
Larry, I hope you can do show focusing on Michael legendary music.
I have posted this comment under another story. I just wanted to post it here.
Don't you think it would a fantastic idea to focus ONLY on Michael the artist.


Sabisha   July 31st, 2009 11:54 am ET

CHASE: I saw the oxygen tanks, yes.

KING: Where were they?

CHASE: I would see Dr. Murray carrying the oxygen tanks down in the mornings.

KING: On that morning or other mornings?

CHASE: No. I didn't see him that morning. I saw him in the afternoon, but other mornings.

Pay attention how she said "I didn't see him that morning. I saw him in the afternoon." with a kind of tense anxiety, like she is afraid of babbling out something


maggie   July 31st, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Somehow I can't believe what Kui is saying about Michael. Why did she all of sudden come out now? Is to convince us that Michael eats? You cannot manipulate the knockout drug to wake up just in time for lunch or dinner.
Why did she say Paris yelled Daddy, Daddy, on your show, and on two others say, they were all in prayer and didn't mention this at all?
None of this makes sense. All these people are in the house, each has a different story and yet nothing adds up to why it happen at all.
Who is hiding what here?

Bottom line it was irresponsiblity that put down Jackson. All those around him knew and did nothing except to go along with the game and keep the pay check coming. Disgusting all of them.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Linda

He did look pretty thin. He was I'm sure pretty stressed out.


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 12:03 pm ET

in some reports they said Prince saw his father goin in Murray's room alive... now this Chase is sayin Prince was in the den, i choose 2 believe wat Prince told LaToya... those kids dnt lie


Malaika   July 31st, 2009 12:06 pm ET

maggie... she is surely hiding something, Latoya gave a different version of wat Paris & Prince said happened that day


justsaying   July 31st, 2009 12:08 pm ET

Why is Ms Chase coming forward now? I think she is another one of those people – like Dr Murray – sho got caught up with the celebrity of MJ. She come accross as someone with "stars" in her eyes not seeing what is really going on. Maybe MJ ran his household as a tight ship not allowing the help in but come on !! Michaels real friends like Deepak and Liza have more information and they were at time cut our of his life for telling him the truth to his face. If Dr Murray and others on the payroll had been more honest at least they could sleep at night knowing that the had done all they could to save/help MJ


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 12:09 pm ET

Here's something else for consideration. Kai Chase' happy face definitely put an upbeat perception out there. She seems just a tad insulated against the tragedy although people mourn privately of course.

LKL is very astute. He asked Kai Chase so why did you come forth now with your story? Pretty subtle, but get the point about calling it a "story". Did she need the time to come out with a "story" that would sync up with want had been said so far? Like, if you want to work in this town (Hollywood) for a long time, then let's make sure everyone is on the same page about what happened.

The point is, now when you hear reports about the children, everything also has a happy face put on it. Oh they're just playing games and football with their cousins, just like any other kids. Oh they're great and happy to be with Katherine and all of that.

Of course children don't often sit around "wallowing" in grief. They don't always manifest it. But surely it's got to be on Prince's mind. And surely he had to have shared whatever with Paris by now. If those children are as intelligent and mature beyond their years as reported, then they are probably coming to some conclusions of their own. Children in private, talk among themselves. And you can't tell me that all of the cousins aren't discussing exactly what their Jackson family is wondering.

Okay, here's the deal. Prince probably knows the timeline pretty much. They would definitely know the routine. And by the way, wasn't it curious how Kai Chase said, oh nobody was ever allowed upstairs?

Privacy issues, or.... possession and equipment issues? Thery were always saying how "messy" MJ's personal areas were (like from Neverland photos and such).

Back to the point. You can't tell me that Prince hasn't already shared what he knows with at least his Grandmother. And that the family doesn't have a really good insight into what was going on that morning.

Perhaps they've ALL been asked not to speculate on what the inner circle really knows. But at varying degrees there is certainly a conspiracy to not reveal the entire story. I can see where the "family" might not want "Rowe" too involved right away either. Should she gain (or ever gain) their confidence, they would have a lot to tell her as well.

Granted plenty of wonderful, happy, loving memories. But letting her know what their reality was. Like whatever the "routine" was for the household. Especially during those pressure filled months leading up to the London Tour. You know, under the circumstances, they are likely the most "truthful" eyewitnesses around.

It is no accident that people like Kai Chase are putting a "happy face" spin on the face of things.

Very little is left to accident when big money is involved. Sadly.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 12:14 pm ET

If its true,that MJ was dead 9am,and the dr just finde it out much later,and if its true wath chef saiing about the timeing,than its look like dr murey is simpley was fol a sleep after he geiv MJ the diprivan,and didnt woch,if he was stop breading.Thann is no AEG behinde.But now thay start investigate AMG,so something wrong with the storie.Olso the storie,wath i was read 1. about the kids was diferent,so,who knos,waths the trouth.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 12:19 pm ET

Does anybody know the link to Latoya interview or article. I would like to review it again.

Stu,

yeah there is are still alot of conflicting info about who was what.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 12:24 pm ET

I meant who SAW what


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 12:25 pm ET

Is LaToya's piece on the other Blog where she suspects somebody of killing her brother? I think LKL.com posted a topic having to do with LaToya's remarks.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 12:35 pm ET

I am concerned that someone was obtaining drugs in Kai Chase's name as an alleged alias for MJ, and that she did not know anything about it when LK questioned her. She said her "publicist" told her about it. Since when does a chef need a publicist, you ask? When she is shopping a cookbook "Fit for a King" about food prepared for MJ. Everyone is trying to get their free publicity and a boost up because they had some connection to Michael Jackson.

The other thing that bothered me is when Kai was asked about Michael Jackson's children and she said they were doing fine. These children are not "fine" they are grieving. Why doesn't anyone say that?

I also cannot understand why Dr. Murray would be "screaming" for Prince. Was Prince trained in first aid? Did Murray need another set of hands? Murray was the "trained" professional, and Prince is a child. Makes no sense. Why would Dr. Murray "panic". Because something was dreadfully wrong, but doctors are trained to handle emergencies. I also think that MJ was probably already past the point were saving him was possible. I just can't get my mind around a paniced doctor. UNLESS he had some kind of guilty knowledge. I have tried to see any way that Dr. Murray could be anything but negligent -but I just can't come up with anything.

I keep thinking that we are going to continue to hear more conflicting and strange things about this.

Praying someone gets to the bottom of ths.


angee   July 31st, 2009 12:41 pm ET

no one is being completely honest..


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 12:47 pm ET

I dont understand this.The kid said that,or who?If its true,than the chef try to help dr Murey.I bhelieve for the kid ofcorse,he has no reason to lie.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 12:48 pm ET

I suppose to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, that is was a tragic and terrifying situation and people "see" and experience things based on their own prespectives, so multiple people vewing the same event will have multiple recollections of what they saw. Which then will continue to morph over the course of time. I guess thats why it is important to get witness statements immediately.

This is going to be a situation where finding clarity and a consistent view of the events will be difficult.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 12:55 pm ET

Yes Lori,but 1 person cant remember the whey that the kid was downsters,if the kid was not downsters,and i am shoura,the kid dont lie.I am just not sure,thet Latoya version is from Prince realy,or she finde out her self.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 1:08 pm ET

I think,this is why now the police is olso investigeting on AMG,not only dr Murey.But somhow for me its look like dr Murey simpey was fol a sleep,whenn He was put Mj tu anestezia,couse he didnt go down for the brekfast,and he realylized just before lunch,that MJ was Dead.


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 1:09 pm ET

Dear Canadian

Wait a sec. Finally somebody has something pleasant to say??? Instead of speaking about acts leading up to and including negligence?

Isn't it nice that Kai Chase provided a bright spot during this investigation. Except that suspicious activity and not acting in a beloved person's best interest is certainly unpleasant.

There will be a legacy of time in which to memorialize and pay well deserved tribute to Michael Jackson. But I'll tell you, if you were the one who had been working so hard for, and wanted for this Tour to be a Come Back and a huge success, and then some incompetent (or group) destroyed everything, then what kind of investigation would you expect?

This isn't about people wanting or not wanting to say nice things about somebody who was popular.

This is about getting as many angles as possible out there in view in the hopes that investigators are picking up the same such clues, and making a case.


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 1:24 pm ET

LORI phrased her comment, observations and questions concisely and perfectly!

Absolutely. So when and why does a doctor paid $150,000 a month PANIC?

Could it be his trade was more in the exchange of drugs than healing arts?

Prince (according to another article) was supposedly called (according to the article) because the doctor wanted a witness as to him attempting CPR.

And no, I don't think the kids are all happy and doing just fine. But that needed to be the story so they wouldn't yank them away from Katherine and the dysfunctional J' Family.

I think actually Rowe had been concerned all along about the effect of this trauma on them. Asking how were they being handled. Asking how much access did they have to professional support. If Prince was as involved as was reported, then Rowe had necessary concerns.

I don't care whether she gets a billion dollars. I think she had to rattle the sabre sword of "money" to get their attention or nobody would have ever listened to her.

When MJ was alive he was the parent and took care of their emotional and education needs. And that was her agreement no matter what the public thought.

But at some point these children in their teens and growing into young adults will want to know what happened to their biological mother. And would want to know that somebody outside of the J'Clan was fighting for them as "people", and not just as the next generation of entertainers and income providers. Isn't it interesting how the first mention of "Child Psychologist" was mentioned probably as a result of her involvement in their custody. Do you think the J'Clan had been thinking in that direction... if left on their own??


carol kesling   July 31st, 2009 1:35 pm ET

michael jackson was DEAD before 911 was called !!!!!!!!! the news is saying m.j.was a drug addict, this IS ALL THE MORE REASIN FOR THE DOCTOR TO NOT SUBSRIBE MEDS TO THEM...... you think???????????


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 1:51 pm ET

Lynn July 31st, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Lynn I meant he looked thin because he was exhausted from all the stress and rehearsals.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 1:52 pm ET

Linda,and maybe from this diprivan every day, olso make hes body weak


Lisa S   July 31st, 2009 2:04 pm ET

Well, this is only telling us very few things.

1. She cooked for Michael but she didnt see him eating veru often. Breakfast was taken upstairs. Dinner he ate after she had left. So she cannot really know what he ate. She is also saying something abou that he looked better in april/may.

2. Dr Murray screamed for Prince. We dont know why or where Prince was. Maybe he was upstairs and he wanted somebody to come and get him away. Maybe he wanted som information from him. Maybe he wanted him to come and look at his father. We dont know why.

3. She is a very respectful person and the children and michael apricioated her a lot.


Dreama   July 31st, 2009 2:08 pm ET

I noticed how she always and respectfully calls MJ "Mr. Jackson". She seems like a very sweet and genuine person and I can see why he would like her around him.

Something I keep noticing is that when someone asks her how he seemed she would say he was well "in April" but she keeps reiterating that he was moving slow when she returned in June which is around the time Dr. Murray entered his life isn't it? So something was happening to him from the time she left until she got back.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 2:21 pm ET

Things changed for Michael in June. Remember Nurse Cherilyn Lee said she received a call from MJ on the Sunday prior to his death and she heard Michael saying that "one side of his body was hot and the other side was cold". This comment made Nurse Lee think that Michael had found someone to give him something that would effect his nuerological system. I beleive she suspected that Michael had found someone that would give him the diprivan/propofol. 4 days later Michael Jackson was dead under suspicious and possibly criminal circumstances.

This time period is also when a lot of people were hired, let go and rehired. Seems like there was a lot of coming and going at that time.
Did Michael have anyone that truly was in a position to love and protect him other that his 3 small children? Where was Miko? Why couldn't the family get thru to him.

Could Cherilyn have done something more to protect Michael. What about a welfare check – could it be claimed that he was an endangered person and needed medical intervention??


justsaying   July 31st, 2009 2:24 pm ET

suprise . . . suprise . . . suprise

Dr Murray was over 700K $ in debt when MJ hired him to be his "IN-House" Doctor for 150K a month

Yes there is no law against chasing the american dream – but for a doctor to do whatever a patient wants if the price is right- even if known to be dangerous

That is a Crime and he should at the very least be stripped of his medical license in all 50 states NOW!!


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 2:35 pm ET

I read in one of the tribute Editions that a source says that Michael went into Dr. Murray's Room and He gave him a shot of Demerol; Michael started having problems breathing and collapsed on the floor. This goes right along with what Latoya said. Remember she said that Michael was on a strict regimen and that whatever Murray gave him sent his body into shock.


chris   July 31st, 2009 2:37 pm ET

I am not clear why Kai Chase left for about a month – was it of her own accord or was it something to do with AEG? I can't help noticing her remark that he initially seemed so healthy but by the time of her return he seemed to have gone downhill.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 2:43 pm ET

Chris,

Thats a good question. It wasn't addressed last night on LKL.

TMZ is reporting new today that MJ slept everynight in Dr. Murrays room. MJ didn't want people going in and out of his room so he spent nights over in Murrays. They also report that it is ocfficially suspected that he was dead by around 9AM.


Tosha   July 31st, 2009 2:45 pm ET

I think Michael was dead way before 911 was called. When Dr. Murray was doing CPR on the bed, I believe he was just going through the motions-if he was really trying to save him, he would have put Michael on the floor. He played the part of the unrelenting Dr. in front of the on-lookers in the house. He knew Michael was dead for a while. God bless both of their souls.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 2:49 pm ET

Everybody stroie here somewher wrong.

Lisa S!

-I think,she was see the empty dishis,and MJ was eat with the kids,i think,she was see,howmoch was finished from the foud.

-The storie of the chef and Latoya is diferent

Lori!
-The the chef never have see the nurce.If she was a nutrishionist,how come,that thay never talk tugeather?

Somehow the picture dont gat tugeather.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 2:53 pm ET

Stu–you're right–That's why I don't trust that Nurse


#1mjfan   July 31st, 2009 2:57 pm ET

yeah i lost all respect for deepak chopra. i'm shocked he feels no guilt blabbing all of michael's secrets to the world. i mean, is being a 'star' that important? he has to be on larry king all the time?

well, i'm glad the chef cleared up that michael was eating well and spending time with his kids every day. i just don't get why she has a publicist though...cuz one thing i hope everyone knows, when you go on a lot of these shows, you get paid to make an appearance. i don't know if larry king pays their guests...i don't think they do. but i do know shows like entertainment tonight and such pay their guests.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 3:04 pm ET

I am not sure MJ was eating well. Kai Chase did not take meals with the family. She served lunch in the dining room for MJ and his children. She gave the MJ's morning meal to Dr. Murray to deliver to MJ. She prepared dinner but again she was not invited to eat with the family. She is assuming that MJ was eating. He could still have been aneroxic and/or bulimic.

She does not have direct first hand knowledge that he ate what was prepared, just because she made and served it to him.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 3:21 pm ET

Lori,but peaples said,MJ was look good 1 month ago.The trainer said so too!


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 4:03 pm ET

LORI

I like where you're going with the idea that Kai assumed he was eating well. She was putting such a pleasant "spin" on everything with her happy green box of children's thank you notes. You almost forget that she was probably "planted" by someone to paint a more wholesome picture about what was going on during the final weeks.

I'd like to know why all these people would be fired (the Chef, the Nanny, for example) and then be rehired. What was the point of any of that.

But back to was MJ really eating? Very true, juices (and she did NOT say "power protein" drinks) and granola might replenish energy. But it looked like he was expending a lot of physical energy doing his routines. That would be like a "runner" going a mile or two, or whatever. Then she served a healthy lunch (salads and chicken) but did anyone see what was actually eaten? Or was he keeping his children company? Yes, they would know. Children are very perceptive. And they would know if he was pushing around the food or eating. Again, she only "packed" a dinner that he took with him. Hmmm, was he eating at rehersal? Or why couldn't he spare another 30 minutes eating at home before going off to the arena?

Remember the background thread. MJ had said once before that people were trying to kill him. And then he said how the rehersals were killing him. There is another report out there that said one of the drugs that will be found in his system is an anit-pyschotic drug. Maybe this was something prescribed to keep him under control and less anxious about wanting to alter the concert Tour or details.

It's kind of a weird thing. But if you're feeling psychotic (in this case, overly anxious, or worried that someone is trying to do you harm – in any sense of the word) then do you go and tell your doctor, "oh I need something because I'm just feeling too paranoid today?" Paranoia is a state of reality for the individual and the victim doesn't know enough to ask for the specific thing to remedy it. But – somebody else can make the observation and say "this is what you need to calm yourself down/"

Why did he need to be calmed down? Particularly if he was so "excited" and "looking forward" to his "come back" Tour. (These were words used by Kai Chase.

My hunch is somebody stuck her out there to put a pleasant spin on things, and promote her book. And by the way she mentioned how the children were doing so absolutely well too. Ahhh, they're old enough to REALLY be missing their father and not all that well yet.

She sure didn't seem all that distressed about MJ's passing. And, weirder still, she kept talking about him in the present tense. Mr. Jackson likes this or that.

Maybe most of these people in Hollywood are delusional anyway.


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:04 pm ET

Why else wouldn't MJs house be a happy place. He was a nice guy who loved children... Thanks for this positive article. I want to see more positive stuff about MJ. Larry, is there any way you can get Ryan White's mom on the show. MJ was so good to Ryan. I remember that one.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 4:04 pm ET

You know for every person that said MJ looked good, there is another person that said he looked unhealthy.

I was thinking about the trainer. He hadn't seen MJ in a month or so I beleive he said. I am thinking that seems odd. If you were working with a personal triainer to get in shape for a physically challenging come back performans, wouldn't you be working with your trainer a 2 or 3 times a week?? I mean you would wouldn't you if you wanted to build up some muscle strength and cariovascular endurance?

You don't regain strength by working out with a trainer once every month or so.


Dirty Diana   July 31st, 2009 4:05 pm ET

Lori-
.
I am bothered by the fact prescriptions were in her name.
I know my mind is in the gutter, but what exactly was her relationship with Murray? She seemed uncomfortable discussing him. Maybe she is the reason Murray slept in that morning? Just a thought.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 4:17 pm ET

Pacific Sun
She sure didn’t seem all that distressed about MJ’s passing. And, weirder still, she kept talking about him in the present tense. Mr. Jackson likes this or that.

ABSOLUTELY! I was bothered by that as well. She painted a pretty picture, but I am not sure how sincere it was. I think the box of personal notes was very calculataed to show 2 things.

One that she was "in" with the children and maybe MJ. and
two, it gave all of us fans something we desperately crave, a look inside at MJ's personal life.

My thought is that MJ never revealed himself in a personal way to anyone but family and friends. I am sure he was "charming" to her; he was always reported to be polite and respectful to everyone. But by her own admission she was not allowed upstairs nor did she share any meals with them.'

So I am going with a little calculated. Like I said in one of the other blogs, I expect that Kai will be seeking permission from the estate to market the Michael Jackson blender so you, too , can prepare healthy fruit juices. I beleive it was organic beet and mango?

She may have been in the house, but she definitely was not inner circle. I think she had only worked for him for 2 very brief time periods. It is not like she had a long-term tenure as the cook. I mean Doug Jones was in there as well.


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 4:21 pm ET

Adrienne, it hasn't been said that his home wasn't a happy, loving, nurturing environment. Kai Chase appears to be exactly the sweet, engaging, professional, un-inquiring type of personality that would compliment the household.

However her approach to the interview was about putting a positive "spin" on controversial events leading up to a negative conclusion. Without adding much depth to what she had to say. And without demonstrating another level of shock, saddness, loss, sense of tragedy, asking questions.... that the rest of the public seem to have been doing at this point.

She sort of accepted the DAILY routine of a DOCTOR carrying down (presumably empty) oxygen tanks.... and yet she was still painting a picture of an apparently healthy (after all she made him organic food and he like apricots) but possibly tired (from the rehersals) individual.

If you are supposed to be able to run the equivalent of a mile or two on rehersal days (what 2 to 4 times a week, who knows?) and you are ALSO on oxygen..... wouldn't you have SOME question what was going on?


#1mjfan   July 31st, 2009 4:28 pm ET

i heard she has a cookbook coming out....anyone know if it's true?


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:29 pm ET

Pacific Sun, I don't believe everything I read in the newspaper or hear on tv. For MANY years I did not pay any attention to anything related to Michael Jackson as I knew it was negative. Personally, I think that Ms. Chase was trying to let the world know that Michael Joseph Jackson was a loving individual and not what the media is portraying him as a drug addict.


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:30 pm ET

Yeah, I heard that too.

Also, Pacific Sun, I am a die hard MJ fan and I am SICK of the negative comments towards MJ.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 4:33 pm ET

Lori July 31st, 2009 4:17 pm ET
You are funny-You know I did want to give her the benefit of the doubt, and actually did on an earlier post–but–Let me just step back here a little. If I had been there-I would certainly find it strange that not only did he have a live in Doctor, but he was carrying around oxigen tanks. There are so many things that just don't make sense. I always felt the caller on the phone that day was way to calm-now it comes out that Michael was already dead. I did appreciate her saying nice things about MJ.


MaryLee   July 31st, 2009 4:33 pm ET

Yes, she has a cookbook coming out and now all of a sudden she is hooking Michaels' name into it to profit. she has a website and photos of her rubbing elbows with celebrities, even with the President. Doesn't mean anything, she was hired to probably cater the affair, thats all. She already has that book on her website I think and some recepies that Michael liked. Must be a very short cookbook given the fact she was only in his employ for a short time, but the book was written before he passed.Takes time to put a book together- Amazing!


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:35 pm ET

Both chefs did not go forward about the oxygen tanks. I bet they were afraid of speaking up. I find it odd too. Knowing me and my medical knowledge I probably would have said smething but given that inner circle I don't know who... I think that at least needs to be considered.


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 4:36 pm ET

Okay stuff is making less and less sense. That is the real value of so many people contributing on a Blog like this. Everyone see's it a different way.

I'm just asking. Why in the world would MJ be sleeping in the doctor's bedroom????

Could it be that was the ultimate room off limits to everyone including the children? I think there was some report out there that said, that door was always closed and nobody went in.

Could it be that is why the doctor somehow got MJ back into the other bedroom and ooops, forgot and put him on the bed. Which really wasn't a good move if he was trying to prove he was doing CPR?

Could it be that is why, because the doctor needed, and used that time (now we're hearing from about 10:00am to Noon) to clean up that special bedroom. He certainly wouldn't be dumb enough (well.... then again.....to put all that stuff in his car, or the sister's car). Except that maybe he just did do it. The LAPD towed it away pronto. And that was there one big advantage in how to proceed with the investigation.

Remember, LAPD didn't really secure the property itself as it would have if an outright homicide had taken place. But they sure did grab the doctor's car.

Hmmm, maybe on an annoymous tip? Could it be there was one "heroic" soul out there looking for justice?

We may see this side of things too (valid tipsters) once the case is brought out into the public. I think LAPD is doing a fantastic job of keeping the evidence and more out of the public eye. One report said they sure weren't going to make the same mistake they did in another very infamous investigation.


helena   July 31st, 2009 4:41 pm ET

hopefully this woman is telling the truth! and should be held witness against Murray. only God knows if this is the truth or not. she looked a bit happy and smiley thats what putsb me off a bit but then again she hardly worked for Michael. Just hope its not publicity stunts to add on to a show. this woman should have come fourth from day 1. the same day that Michael died. had it been me i would have screamed it from the top of the roof...........


Lisa S   July 31st, 2009 4:43 pm ET

Stu:

An empty plate is no guarantee that a person had eaten the food. I'm not saying Mihcael didnt eat. Im just encouraging you to look at the facts with open eyes. She cant possible know what michael ate in a day and she doesnt say she does. She is just saying that she cooked for him, he wanted "room service" and when she went to rehearsals she packed the lunch for him to take with him. That is all she tells us and that is all we know.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 4:44 pm ET

Re Comment above regarding Kai Chase.
It would've been so strange to me that It would've risen suspicion in me to maybe reach out to the family. MJ did not have to know.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 4:46 pm ET

You mean to tell me everyboy in that inner circle thought it was Normal.


Linda from New York   July 31st, 2009 4:54 pm ET

Why didn't they do something–I know MJ was their boss, but come on.


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:56 pm ET

Linda, I was wondering that myself. But, remember what the other chef said that MJs dad was trouble. They coiuld have been afraid.

I know if it were me, I would have said something...

Although her interview was very nice, I do wonder why she did it... I can't help but wonder if it wasn't just for publicity.. I don't understand why the LAPD has not interviewed her again..


Adrienne   July 31st, 2009 4:57 pm ET

Do you think Kai Chase was hiding something??


No 1 mjfan   July 31st, 2009 5:01 pm ET

The chef said quack doc murray comes to pick micheals breakfast around 10am, but on 25th june, he did not come pick the food. SO WHAT DOES THIS TELL EVERYONE??? it simply means that even as of 10am MJ was DEAD simple!

The doc must have noticed micheal is dead in the middle of the night or in the morning... made his calls to his staff to remove the boxes of evidence in his office, possibly stole some things/money in his room b4 storming into the kitchen to ask 4 prince around 12pm.. this alone shows that murray has no humanity or feeling in him... there is still a lot he hasnt said and admitted to...


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Adrienne

There is a difference between a person making up negative things and refering to what has already been written. There are people writing comments here who do so to exchange their love and devotion to Michael Jackson. And there are people here who are asking questions and comparing what they've read or heard.

Please don't assume because someone is interested in who is responsible for such a beloved entertainer's death, that is the same as endorsing negative things about MJ.

What has come out in the media has been a revelation to people like myself. We're understanding now what a treasure has been lost. But it doesn't mean believing in the media's negativity or the sensationalism going on.

A tragedy beyond description has happened. Questions need to be asked. And as fans such as yourself already understand, only the good and best about Michael Jackson is going to survive beyond everything else.

This was a man who the casual public / media could not understand or take at face value. He had nothing to hide, only demonstrated love and forgiveness to everyone. There is no person that can say he treated anyone badly. He was a hero to his children and he raised them to be beautiful and capable talented people. He impacted race relations, the entertainment industry, brought joy and excitement to people around the world. He was never capable of doing anything that his mother (for one) would not be proud of. It just wasn't in him or a part of his soul.

What people are writing about now is the complete travesty of people not holding Michael Jackson's best interests as their foremost concern. Above everything else. Even providing more entertainment to the public. There just wasn't any watch dog. I think everyone, takes a tiny bit of blame in expecting so much from people so much larger than life.

But he certainly deserves the respect and due process of the law that any ordinary person in this State and Country should have. It will continue to be a controversial process until the truth is established.


Lori   July 31st, 2009 5:17 pm ET

This is so murky!

I have some additional thoughts -

Maybe Dr. M screwed up the diprivan dosage. It is a very sensitive medication which allows for only a tiny margin of error. If MJ had come from rehersal he was most likely dehydrated. I wonder if even a pound difference in body weight could have made the difference between waking up in the morning or a lethal dosage.

I also wondered Kai seemed so unemotional. I may be a freak, but I can hardly stand to listen to the 911 call and the tears just come.

Exactly! why would you need oxygen if you were healthy? I think people saw questionable stuff and ignored the red flags.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 5:38 pm ET

Lisa S!
I dont know,and there is no pruve,but MJ was eat with hes kids,and i think,sombody would finde out,if he would not eat,just trow avay the foud.


Lynn   July 31st, 2009 6:09 pm ET

Lori,

Dr didn't come down the steps yelling call 911. came down yelling for Prince /security. She was probably stunned and didn't know what was going on. She wasn't in employ there for very long and may have though the O2 tanks peculiar but probably thought it was none of her business.
Just trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. If it would have been me there, I would figure well he is a Dr so I guess if he needed me to do something he would say so.


plain jane   July 31st, 2009 6:12 pm ET

why don't they interview the children?

bet they'll tell the truth.

MJ shouldn't have trusted Murray entirely in the first place, who's only been with michael for a short time..( a few years? i far as I hear..)

he should have educated the children, whenever daddy seems strange or cannot get out of bed in the morning, call 911 immediately...

how trusting he was always to the ppl around him.....


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 6:26 pm ET

Yes Lori,i agree with Linn.Whenn you see someon in truble ,and there is a dr,you espect,the dr knos wath to doo...


Pacific Sun   July 31st, 2009 6:39 pm ET

"Get Prince; he's screaming very loudly."

LKL asks ...so like where was he? Kai says in the Den (I think) or somewhere next to the kitchen.

Even if the doctor thought he needed the help of Prince because only the family was authorized to go upstairs – and by the way in a life or death emergency that was a pretty dumb rule – would you be expecting the "help" of a screaming 12 year old? No matter what you needed? Or instead of telling somebody go get the child, would you say in the next breath call 911 or make sure they're on the way.

In a real emergency, especially when more than a few people are involved, everybody is always asking was 911 called, who called them, are they on their way, when will they get here. Because everybody is paniced together. There's nothing to hide, no 2nd guessing everything. People are just working to the proper end, and that's to get help for victim, no matter what!

Prince was screaming. More than likely Prince saw or heard something or someone first, maybe upstairs, maybe downstairs..... and THEN started screaming. Whatever he heard or saw was traumatic. Take it from there.

Remember the doctor's first excuse was that he couldn't call 911 immediately because of no access to a landline. And he didn't know the address. Two comments which are just more and more stupid as time passes. But that's what happens when you lie.

If he had had the "time" to call down to Kai to get the child, then he had time enough to scream to Kai using her own cell phone to call 911. Or do you think 2 people working at the rented Mansion didn't know the address?

But I am telling you (in a responsible household) whenever there are children in a home, especially three as precious as Michael Jackson's, plus a nanny or a caretaker is involved, even security, it is CLEAR to every single person on staff what to do if there is an emergency.

If the child had fallen into the pool, or was choking, or stopped breathing for example, do you think there would have been all those "hand offs"?

Like, I can't call from my cell phone because I don't know where I am? I can't find a land line? I need to call a security guard first? I need to call the grandfather first? I have to stop the other kids from screaming. I need to make sure somebody sees me doing CPR? I'll see if I can take care of this situation myself first? But if not, then I will call 911?

Without having any of the so-called official reports, I think the public is figuring out finally that there was a great deal of time between the "incident" and when paramedics took over.

There is ONLY one question. And that is WHY?

The answer points to your suspect.

You might ask why.


Stu,Hungary   July 31st, 2009 8:36 pm ET

Pacific sun!
1 word:
Exactly!


Wendy, Ontario, Canada   July 31st, 2009 8:52 pm ET

Pacific Sun
If he was dead already why did the hospital work on him for another entire hour before pronouncing him dead?? I really wish someone would answer this question! Hospital staff would be able to tell if someone had been dead for over an hour! His time of death was 2:26 I think? This whole theory of MJ being dead before noon makes no sense to me. If that's the case, hospital staff with all their equipment & technology would have known they were dealing with a dead body.
As to the why question? I think MJ took multiple drugs, some of which Dr. Murray did NOT perscribe & he died of an overdose. If Murray was so willing to give MJ all these drugs why was MJ getting drugs from so many others using fake names?


Annie LV   July 31st, 2009 9:03 pm ET

Wendy

The hospital wanted to call it for some time. But Murray insisted they proceed with resuscitation. I guess he being a cardiologist and MJ's personal Dr. , overrode any of the emergency room personnel.


Dirty Diana   July 31st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

The only reason I could think of why murray would want Prince, is to help him move things around before the paramedics got there. Possibly, move mj into a different bedroom – from his bedroom into mjs bedroom????? Murray is a big, strong man, but maybe he needed some help???? I'm sure the police have asked Prince and they know the reason.


Micaela   August 1st, 2009 12:32 am ET

I don't believe MJ was a "drug addict." The term is inappropriate. He wasn't hooked on heroine, for example. He was probably dependent on certain PRESCRIPTION drugs to help him sleep and to manage pain, maybe caused by lupus or some other disorder, just to enjoy quality of life. So, go after the doctors. Whatever people say, he was a good father and a loving and caring person. That's all that matters now.


Pacific Sun   August 1st, 2009 3:34 am ET

Wendy, Ontario, Canada

Two responses to your questions. You will read in other reports that the paramedics themselves couldn't understand why MJ was in the condition in was, by the time they got to him. One account says the paramedics said it was too late to revive him and they were going to pronounce him dead. But the doctor kept insisting they continue for as long as they did. And then they took him to the hospital. That account was run either on LKL or HLN because the backup question was, was the doctor stalling, so the medications in his system would dissipate. The answer was no, by the way, that stalling wouldn't have made any difference, even if that was the doctor's intention.

I think it was sheer incompetence and fear.

Another account says the paramedics couldn't do anymore than they did but the doctor insisted he be taken to the hospital because he didn't want the "situation" to end there in the home.

Sadly even if MJ had a slight pulse or a thready pulse is all the more reason why everybody is now asking the question – then why did the doctor mess around for so long? IF the routine was the doctor coming down to get his juice and breakfast around 10:00am and that didn't happen, so then the assumption is that something else was going on instead. And if it was "trouble" then why wasn't the entire household alerted instantly????

By the way, homes of that caliber are run off of automated security alarm systems that get activated pretty quickly when there's an incident. So the police or emergency personnel can attend to whatever problems are going on. Hello, like robberies and assaults? If you had a Brinks or AT&T Home Security System, then isn't there some kind of panic button you can hit to have instant access to help? I also read where there was supposed to be a "panic button" at MJ's bedside.

But then again, if he was making a habit of sleeping in the doctor's bedroom, it would've been harder to reach. But it still would not take the amount of time that it apparently did, to call for help. And why couldn't the doctor have used that panic button at bedside?

I get the feeling that people making comments are trying to defend against the obvious, or certainly the suspicious. And I don't know if it's because they think all this is shedding a bad light on MJ. And they don't want to think about his involvement with drugs.

Addiction, need, dependance, reliance, tolerance having to do with drugs is an illness. But people put it into the category (like alchoholism) of self-control or willful and selfish behavior. MJ wasn't that personality type. Not doing it for the pleasure or the high. But for the desperate need of "relief". Why or how that came about is another Blog.

But I don't believe MJ is the one to blame. It is all the people taking advantage of him and not holding his best interest as the most important thing.

Even if 19 aliases were involved at this point. Everyone assumes Michael was sitting there thinking up names he could use, so the doctors could make out these prescriptions.

Give me a break. He had time to be figuring out all this stuff. Or cared. More like his enablers were using handy (but pretty dumb) names THEY could think up, to protect their jobs, by doing what they thought they had to to get the drugs in there. Do you really think Michael could have used his own son's name as an alias, or his Chef's name? Or was part of the deal, hey this can be a great job for you, but I have a small favor to ask in return....?

For every supposition out there, even more questions pop up.


corey   August 1st, 2009 4:47 am ET

been following cnn &et i just know et has reported insights on neverland ;and also on king of pop temp resting@forest lawn
cooling till the final words of investigations are in how long can a person's body be cooled tt long for?


Danielle D   August 1st, 2009 6:26 am ET

Murray should be Jailed,who would do such thing to the king on music!
Plus Diprivan is only given to you in hospital he had no right to give it to Michael at home.


Danielle D   August 1st, 2009 6:29 am ET

If it wasnt for Murray I gurantee Michael would still be alive ready to do his tour because he was so excited about it a big comeback! but now he cant do that!.


Mary U from Ohio   August 1st, 2009 10:10 am ET

I hope Michael died Peacefully....With happy thoughts...


Lisa S   August 1st, 2009 11:55 am ET

MariaU:

Intersting theories 🙂 The only problem though is that we dont know if the facts are facts. We dont know why Murray screamed "Get Prince"

Was it to get him to Michaels body?

Was it to get him out of the way?

Was it to get some information from him?

Was it to, together with the other kids, get him out of the house?

We dont know. We just have to wait and see. Maybe we will get any answers,maybe not 🙂
Did he really see Michael body and who has confirmed that?


RoseProphecy   August 1st, 2009 5:06 pm ET

What a genuine person in Michael Jackson's life telling us how he cared about the balance in his life and how he cared about the balance of his children's life and how responsible he was that when he could not provide that he had the best person possible to do it!

His being tired and saying they are killing me is also a significant piece of information that these people were pushing Michael Jackson and that they were interested in the footage they got from him that Sony just baught for $60million and wanted the profit more than his health I am sure he had told and complained to them about them pushing him and him being tired and creativity goes out the door when one is pushed like that and he was not the kind of person who
would be pushed! He pushed himself enough and did not need being pushed and the fact that Jermaine Jackson told on the radio interview he had before Michael's death that his brother was unhappy about the contract and would sign things being excited and then hard to get out of them is very significant! Jermaine's interview should be played again and he must be interviewd again and those who pushed him must be interviewd. He did not die out of being pushed and being tired but from what killed him that was given or injected to him and the lack of care of those who were pushing him not caring about consequences of a man who was just having a comback from weakness!


Myriam (Paris, France)   August 1st, 2009 5:58 pm ET

Thank you very much for the insights... once again Michael Jackson is described as a lovely person to evebody. I was loving the singer, the dancer, the lyric writer.. the whole person. Despite his dark sides which will never be as huge as all his talents. I was 'perceiving him 5/5'. As he seemed very scared of non being strong enough to be the performer he used to be, is it stupid to think that he can have commit suicide and that doctor Murray has just helped him ?


nita   August 1st, 2009 7:53 pm ET

she said they let her go, who is they, and if she was so good why didnt michael insists she stay, why was micahel loosing weight when she was around, did she lace his food with something? I wouldnt let her fix me a grill cheese sandwich. I dont like her.


nita   August 1st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

I cant believe you people are taking the media serious. if you are a mj fan than you would know that this is murder. michael was no drug addict.
this was a setup clearly. nobodys knows if mj asked for propofol because he is not here to defend himself. this mess was planned very well, especially with the nurse coming out instantly about the propofol scenario along with others who claims they know about his alleged drug abuse. This drug addiction story is the foundation the killers are using to cover there behinds, except the foundation is not stronge enough it has cracks all in it. michael was very smart, i dont know why he would use any agency out of california to hire cooks, nannys or security it was a dum move if you ask me.


jolande   August 2nd, 2009 7:24 am ET

i did like the interview with kai i think she s lalling the truth about mj that he was a loving father you could see on his sweet smiling face that michael was a verry good person i hope that the lapd will arrest dr murray what have he done to michael and then he calls for prince to help him why to let that kid know i try to safe your father and give him a trauma for the rest off his life my heart goes out too those 3 kids who lost there wonderfull father on such a young age by foul play of the man who said im a good dr why called to his office to give them a message too get a chair out lies i hope that the full truth comes out so michael didnt not died for no reason i hope he will find peace were ever hi now may be i think he found a good place in heaven if not on earth he belongs there we have to thank michael for all the great things he have done for the world i have the same age as mj so his music wassthere all of my life the tears are comming too my eyes i think off him every day and ask my self why did so many people try to hurt him because michael means love and care i miss michael so much i wish the jackson family the strengt to live without ther son brother uncle but specialy the childeren prince michael paris and litlle blanket my pray s are with them michael looking down from heaven too see that the world is missing a great performer but most off all a beautifull human being R I P my beloved michael joseph jackson my english is not so good i am from holland but i try my best


Brenda Melchor   August 2nd, 2009 8:26 am ET

Michael's Chef stated that Dr. Murry asked to her to get Michael's son Prince, Why?, would at that time the Dr. want Michael's children or son in the room when Michael was dying? Unless Michael had last words to say to his son? Could this Dr. Murry have played a Kovorkin kind of roll in Michael's death? Was Michael Jackson suffering from something terminal and needed to be anestisized at night because of the pain? Why didn't Dr. Murry call an ambulance immediatly and send Michael straight to the hospital instead of wasting all that valuable time? Wasn't Dr. Murry a trained physician, trained to react appropriatly in emergancy situations? If Dr. Murry could supply and administer the Diprovan to Michael, why didn't he have the counter agent or recovery drug there also to rescue Michael if something went wrong? To many unanswerd questions. More to this than just an accident I believe.


Amanda $ -IL   August 2nd, 2009 9:31 am ET

I was just thinking, maybe the chef is known for being a private chef to certain celebs but mostly worked for M.J? That could be why she has a publicist or maybe she's always had a publicist because she's too busy to do interviews or things like that because she's busy with cooking? Lol.


mimi_carl   August 2nd, 2009 10:03 am ET

If you think about it, It's so mysterious the life of Michael Jackson. The time that he dies there are so many questions wants to know about him, like... who is the Real mother of his last child (blanket)?, now who is Owen? But there is another question? Who is the secret Girlfriend of Michael Jackson?? I watch the interview of his former bodyguard in Skynews, i think he is from england(I forget the name) hes telling that Michael Jackson have a Secret lover that he adore so much..


MIMI   August 2nd, 2009 5:47 pm ET

PEOPLEEE!! LOOK, STOP WONDERING WHY KILLER DOC MURRAY ASKED THE CHEF TO GET PRINCE.. AS FOR ME, MICHEAL DIED BTW 1.00 AM TO 9AM ON THAT DAY...

THE DOC NORMALLY GETS MICHEALS FOOD AROUND 10 AM IN THE MORNING BUT ON THAT DAY, HE DIDNT PICK THE FOOD. MY EXPLANATION IS THAT HAVING SEEN THAT MICHEAL IS DEAD BTWN ANY OF THOSE TIMES (NIGHT / MORNING). HE FIRST STARTED TO DESTROY ANY INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE SUCH AS THE SECURITY TAPES, CALLING TWO OF HIS STAFF TO GET RID OF EVIDENCE FROM HIS OFFICE, STEALING FROM MIKE COS HE KNOWS HE AINT GONNA GET PAID ANYMORE... GOT HIMSELF TOGETHER B4 GOING DOWN STAIRS TO GET SECURITY N PRINCE!!!!!

LIKE LATOYA SAID, THIS IS A CONSPIRACY TO KILL MICHEAL 4 SOME REASON, BUT I KNOW IT MUST BE BUSINESS RELATED, WITH TIME, GOD WILL EXPOSE THESE CRIMINALS.


rosyy   August 2nd, 2009 6:41 pm ET

Wake up people. How long are we going to sit here and listen to the various versions of events that took place on the day MJ dies. It is clear that MJ was administered the propofol by Dr Murray (who by the way was employed by MJ since May 2009); Dr Murray fell asleep. Woke up too late only to find MJ had expired. possibly around 9am. He made his call to the females to retrieve boxes from storage... that should be one indicator. . A question: when the security officer arrived to the bedroom (unknown time) did he see a drip or MJ hooked up to anything? What was said between Dr. Murray and Security. Time passed, almost 3 hrs. Then commotion erupts ... Dr Murray running down stairs screaming for Prince. I think he just wanted a witness to watch him perform an unorthodox version of CPR. Surely when paramedics arrived, there had to be fresh marks where an IV had been hooked up. Couldn't the paramedics tell if the body had expired a couple of hours earlier. Why would they work on a body that had expired. What happened inside the paramedics truck?
Most of these questions can be answered by anyone who has half a brain. Was the IV, propofol etc there on paramedics or security arrival to the room. Why would security tell kids and people employed at house to leave?
For sure, MJ had an addiction to Rx drugs, doesn't everyone in Hollywood. It is the enablers and the hangers on who gave in to MJ and for what financial benefit. I hope that any monies paid to Dr Murray will now be used to pay for his attorneys, which he will need. You are at fault. You had a responsibility as a physicianl. Now what is left, children without a father, a mother without her son, millions of adoring fans all over the world are grief stricken.
Own up, be a man, admit your guilt. Your attorneys may be the best but listen well Dr Murray, you will be found guilty. Time is not on your side.


glow   August 2nd, 2009 7:20 pm ET

TO ALL WHO LIVED MJ:

I wish there was a conspiracy to kill MJ and that he is REALLY ALIVE somewhere until they get all the people involved. It is hard for me to deal with knowing he is dead. I pray for his family, children, and fans. I pray that GOD will help us to understand and bring those responsible for his death to justice. For the most part, if it is truly true, let us all remember MJ for the good he did. There are things we will never know for sure and MJ is not here to set the record straight. Let's all remember his song CHILDHOOD. As he lived his life as private as he could, let's let his family keep his dream alive and continue to keep what MJ wanted private. Let's all let the children have a healthy life and grow to become normal children. As a father he did a GREAT JOB with his children.


Jen   August 2nd, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Saw the interview with Kai Chase and I think she is warm and genuine and picked a great time to shed some light on the happiness, love and energy of the Jackson home. I dispise the word 'addict' and Michael Jackson being used in the same sentence, her interview shows exactly how much he cared about his health and the health of his children. How many addicts do you know of that are organic health nuts and care about the well being of their family? Addicts only care about one person; themself and don't give a second thought for their familys' health and wellbeing. We all know Mr. Jackson was incredibly loving but with the recent headlines calling him an addict is disgusting and I am glad Ms. Chase was able to counter some of that negativity publicity.

What I wasn't fond of was Ms. Chase's decision to share the Happiness Box that the children made for her. It's a terribly sweet gesture from the kids to welcome her back and one that I am sure she will treasure but I think some things are meant to be private and their personal thoughts and feelings is one of them. It didn't add to her credibility to the events of that morning.

I also wasn't fond of the talk about her cook book, I think that it wasn't the time or the place to promote that this project was in the works. She was there to discuss the events of the morning of June 25th, not for self promotion. When Larry asked what the future brings she should have just smiled sweetly and said "We'll see..." and left it at that for now. But instead we learn about the book she's working on about Mr. Jackson's favorite foods. As interesting as the book may be I understand the marketing end of it and Mr. Jackson will no doubt be tied tightly to the marketing and promotion of the book. I hope that Ms. Chase will not only dedicate the book to Mr. Jackson and the kids as she said it was through his encouragment to write the book, but on a grander scale thank him by giving back and donate part of the proceeds to his Heal the World Foundation.

Regarding the events that took place the morning of June 25th, here's my opinion......I think Dr. Murray fell asleep and woke mid morning to find a deceased Mr. Jackson. I don't think he attempted to revive him because he knew he was too late. We know from the 911 call that Mr. Jackson remained on the bed and was not moved to a hard surface as would be standard practice for CPR, a heart speacialist would know this inside and out and would not have to rely on a 911 dispatcher to remind him. Reports said the paramedics say Mr. Jackson was still hooked up to an IV and there was an empty IV bag on the pole. If in that 20 minutes between the time Dr. Murray says he "found" Mr. Jackson and the time he ran screaming downstairs to get help and then the additional 10 mintures back up stairs (for a total of 30 minutes) before 911 was called and paramedics arrived then if there was any genuine attempt to revive Mr. Jacskson then the IV should have and would have been disconnected immediately. If you cut yourself and draw blood you don't keep cutting....If there was a true attempt to revive you don't keep the IV running what ever reminance may have been left in the line into him. I think Dr. Murray upon finding Mr. Jackson paniced for some time privately and thought about what to do because he knew he just f***ed up and let the biggest talent the world has ever seen die on this watch. If Mr. Jackson was deceased as early as 9am then the doctor knew that his body would start the rigamortis/stiffening process which begins 2-4 hours after death. Mr. Jackson (reportedly) was cool to the touch but the upstairs was always kept stifling hot. Dr. Murray ran out of time and had to go for help because everyone in that house knew he was the only one alone with Mr. Jackson. If he didn't play it the way he did there would be a different story on our hands and Dr. Murray would be behind bars already.

I think Dr. Murray called for Prince was sort of an old school way of thinking where when something happens to the 'man of the house' then the oldest son is called upon. I think he may have just briefly told Prince there was something wrong with his father and he (Dr. Murray) would have to get an ambulance for him and for Prince to keep his sister and brother downstairs at all costs.

Bottom line is that there was an enormous amount of time wasted and I believe the truth will prevail, but I just hope that justice will be served.


Linda Hales   August 2nd, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Has it ever been considered that Dr. Murray may have fallen asleep during the night and missed the prearranged time to wake Michael up? In such a scenario, he may also have missed a distress signal which would have alerted him to administer oxygen to Michael. How easy is it to stay awake all night just watching someone sleep anyway? Michael could have died around eight or nine a.m. without being discovered until Dr. Murray woke up hours later. That would explain why he panicked.


Dirty Diana   August 2nd, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Jen
I think you got it right! Although I am intrigued by the conspiracy theory, I think your "take" is probably more accurate. But, I do think murray is guilty of more than just negligence. Maybe if he acted more swiftly, mj might have been saved. Such a tragedy nevertheless. You have to admit, he has to be the biggest moron to ever walk the planet.


Pacific Sun   August 3rd, 2009 1:10 am ET

I've read half of all the comments being shared since Friday.

There a lots of comments about the question of calling for Prince.

The point of that remark was in this quote in one of the earlier reports, even before what Kai confirmed on LKL. That's what makes the comment so interesting. Supposedly the doctor said "Get prince, he's screaming very loudly."

It wasn't just ...go get Prince I need his help or need a witness or whatever. It was that Prince was already SCREAMING!!! The bigger question is why was the doctor saying (or even had time to "care" at that point) get him, he's screaming?

Meaning, get him so he'll STOP screaming? Or, get him because he needs HELP? Or get him, I need him for something regardless of his reaction?

Maybe he had started with the boy by asking him to take stuff downstairs and out to his car? Or maybe thought he could get the boy to do it..... but that's when everything went wrong.....even more than it already had. And that's why the doctor had to react so quickly, like get that boy before things spin out of control.

Why else would the doctor make a comment like that?

Somebody said there are no witnesses so we'll never know the truth.

There were witnesses. From the children in the household, to the person taking care of the children, to the staff, to the paramedics and so on. The witnesses will be people who knew the routine, and can report on how the routine was different for a period of time. That would be a start.

There were witnesses by default. A big question is why haven't we HEARD from any of these really "inside" people except for Kai Chase? And Kai kept the interview pretty darn superficial.

One reason is, because whatever they had to say individually, was then compared to all those remarks together, and then to what the doctor was saying and what he was doing. It could be the LAPD interviewed everybody on the grounds and made them agree to not say anything incriminating to the media.

It will be determined when exactly MJ died. The questions then will be what was going on between the "incident" and when the first person outside of the doctor knew anything.

If there was too much time, well that's incriminating.

If he let somebody else know immediately, but not the emergency help requiried, well that's incriminating.

If he says he called within 20 minutes of the incident, then truly where had he been all during the time leading up to the incident (like during the night) from when the sedative was administered to the next morning. Well that's incriminating too.

If he was under the doctors watchful eye then the doctor should have screamed out something, instantly. Did he?

The other comments are around the oxygen involved. I thought one of the CNN or AC Cooper pieces showed a patient under the influence of the sedative. And then how the patient stopped breathing on his own. Which the Anethesiologist expected. And so they needed to administer oxygen and keep the patient breathing?

People have assumed, because the media has assumed, that there was not any monitoring equipment present (like you would see under professional circumstances) and so that was a major problem in using Dirpovan in the first place.

If there was a lot time being wasted by the doctor, and he needed to stash stuff, and could have been trying to hide the equipment. I mean it would be worse to have all the EQUIPMENT visible because then the who setup would have necessarily been INTENTIONAL.

If the doctor separated MJ from where ever that equipment might have been, then the doctor might have figured nobody could prove that he was the one using it. And that maybe MJ just had it around because of other situations or previous experience. And so try to create a story about how he was there, only to "reassure" MJ medically speaking.

Everybody is now pulling all these speculations apart over an endless number of days and weeks. Unfortunately for the doctor, he had a major CRISIS of the moment that he was supposed to be fixing, and yet, realizing that he couldn't.

The paramedics by the way (supposedly) said that when they got there, they felt only a very slight pulse. That was what was making the 20 – 30 minute window seemed plausible. Except now we know other things were happening that morning, working all the way backwards from when the paramedics got there. If so, the doctor still could have been trying to think ahead, and got a security guard or somebody else, to help him try and stash whatever incriminating evidence was going to make everything worse.

The doctor is really in a fix and he knew it then. Probably called somebody for "counsel" as in like what do I or "we" do here in this situation. And what kind of timeline do we try and account for?

Maybe the most important issue (which he determined, or "they" determined) as getting all the records or incriminating evidence out of the way. MAYBE, and I'm just saying maybe, that evidence was about more than just prescriptions and aliases. I mean why would you keep any of that kind of information anywhere? That's like taking a DVD of yourself loading the bullets into the gun that's killed someone.

I think the evidence was about a lot more than just paperwork. And that's why this investigation is all gum-balled up.


Pacific Sun   August 3rd, 2009 2:33 am ET

Just to shake up the questioning tree a little further:

Lots of other comments say it's only a tragic accident, one of those things, a careless and incompetent doctor, or a lack of personal responsibility, and how it doesn't need to be dwelled upon any longer.

What are the odds that the most incompetent doctor at least in the entire western hemisphere would be paid $150,000 a month by a savvy corporation to take care (in any sense of the word) the world's most valuable entertainer??? And that in dealing with one of the most powerful and potentially lethal sedatives.... the doctor just happened to "snooze" through it's deadly effects?

Even if MJ had requested that specific doctor then don't you think his credentials would have (or should have) been vetted? Especially if insurance was involved. At least so they all knew what they were dealing with?

If the doctor had only been on the payroll (I believe) 2 months or less then why would he even need to store paperwork or materials in facilities all the way in Texas? Especially if he already had a clinc or a practice (I think in Las Vegas) then why wouldn't he keep patient records on the professinal premises?

If 19 aliases were involved, then is it likely 19 would have been put to into use just during the 2 months of Murray's employment? Think about it people. Could anybody take a combination of 10 to 19 different and powerful compounds daily each month for many months and still expect to be functioning normally and appear to be normal. As everybody has said. Especially to his family and to the household???? Has anyone (coming on these interview shows) said so far, that he looked any worse than being slightly tired and thinner than they would have liked him to have been? What would be the most handy explanation they assumed would fly – cardiac arrest of course.

They just didn't figure that the doctor would screw it up so badly.

Think about it people. Had the doctor become the designated records keeper for a real reason? Had he become the perscription gate keeper? And if he had become that, or it was suggested that this alias deal had been the on-going routine surrounding MJ, then was the doctor in his new found position being "encouraged" to be the newest most convenient "transaction" specialist? Replacing whom....by the way?

I am NOT saying all these drugs were MJ's preference and that he was a drug addict by choice and for the high of it. If he was taking anything I believe he believed it was for very specific reasons (justification) and that he couldn't function without them. I mean he needed them for phyiscally debilitating reasons (like pain, inflamation, insomnia or whatever it was that would keep him from his performances and his job).

I ask these questions, because I DO believe Michael Jackson WANTED to be on the road to health for this Tour. That it was his desire and intention to be on that path. Especially to encourage his children and show them what absolute hard work and dedication would accomplish. Why else would he consult a nutrionist, etc. and work out with the body builder and work so hard in the rehersals? His biggest issue was getting the rest he felt he desperately needed.

However, for the people in MJ's life who did NOT have his long term best interests in mind ( and a debt is a debt especially to the people who just want to collect ) then maybe the doctor had brokered a side deal with those kind of interested parties? Or, the interested parties.....had brokered a deal with the doctor? That would make a very BIG difference in the equation.

Especially considering how much they might have had against the doctor to begin with. Or have been able to intimidate him.

That is the extreme of the conspiracy theory.


MIMI   August 3rd, 2009 4:38 am ET

Few days after micheals death, Latoya said in her interview that she knew and miacheal told her some people were out to get him cos of his Beatles catalogue.She went further to say she felt micheal wouldnt make it to those concerts alive! Latoya also said that her family made attempts to see micheal and get him help.

My feeling and response to what latoya said is this:

If she knew Micheal was in ANY kind of danger, why didnt she/ her family go make a statement to the police?

YES the jackson family including joe said they were shut out by micheals security, whether it was MJ that gave the orders or someone else, i dont know. The jackson family knew that Micheal had an addiction to med., knew that some bad inner circle people want to kill or control micheal with medications... WHY DID THEY NOT GO TO THE POLICE WHEN THEY WERE SHUT OUT???

Personally, if MJ were my brother and i notice some people are preventing my family from getting help to him, i will go report to the police IN CASE ANYTHING HAPPENS SO THEY SAY I MADE AN EALIER STATEMENT..

To me, Mj's family have questions to answer cos they would have prevented this long b4 2009. After 2005 trials, they would have made sure micheal go to rehab.. But the question is knowing that he has this addiction problem, why didnt micheal go for rehab b4 embarking on this tour??? why did MJ have to put himself tru stress when he knew he is supposed to get himself fit by rehab b4 signing any contract with AEG???

As a matter of fact, AEG knew micheal had all these medical , insomnia probs but STILL went ahead to sign him on for the showss.... why??? cos they dont care.. simple!!! they dont care about him, his life , health... all they care about is the MONEY he will make them!!!!

Micheal and his WHOLE family had a get together in MAY. Why didnt they sit down with him afterwards and discuss their concerns??? Look, if i were one of them, having these suspicions about prescritive medications, I WILL MOVE INTO THAT HOUSE WITH MICHEAL TO MONITOR HIM AND WHAT GOES ON THERE SIMPLE!!! If they had done this, they would have found out this quack doc gives Mj IV of propofol at night , raised the alarm and stopped the insanity!!!

Another thing is... if Micheal had gone to rehab and got healthy, he wouldnt need those meds given to him by so called enablers.... and he would have been here with us and his family. I hope that someday, the jackson family will address these issues i just laid out cos i have been thinking about about this situation from the family point of view... in the end, they are the ones that could have stopped this tragedy.


jenny(AUSTRALIA)   August 3rd, 2009 5:58 am ET

This is all so sad, all this gossip has gone too far.
Let Micheal Jackson Rest In Peace, enough is enough.
We are hearing and reading more and more trash about him, it is all gossip.
So leave Micheal JAckson Paparazii


Maureen (UK)   August 3rd, 2009 9:37 am ET

Pacific sun
Yes, the whole issue of who is employed under an insurance scheme should take into account the credentials of medical staff, and would need to be vetted & referenced by the ins company. For a pop icon like MJ you would expect the scrutiny to be even more vigorous than usual. I can't see how MJ could necessarily choose his own Dr. We don't even know really who chose him.


sara   August 3rd, 2009 11:24 am ET

According to his nurse Michael Jackson asked her to provide him with Diprivan before his death and told him not to take it! My question is if she knew the drug should be given only in hospital then why she kept silent till his death and then come the next day on tV telling us all!
why didn't she said anything before his death?


Jen   August 3rd, 2009 6:19 pm ET

Thanks Dirty Diana, as much fun as conspiracy theories can be to delve into I think its important to stick with what we know at this time without hurting the legacy left behind. I am not saying my theory is as it happened but it's what I see as the most plausible explanation for that morning. And you are right, he's got to be one of the biggest shmucks to walk this earth.

Regarding what Ms. Chase says about Dr. Murray on the stairs "Get Prince, he's screaming very loudly" I didn't read this as Prince is the one screaming loudly but as Dr. Murray is screaming loudly for someone to bring Prince to him. After all Ms. Chase confimed that all the children where in the den at the time he came down the stairs, how would Dr. Murray know anything that Prince is saying if he's playing in the den?

I don't think the nurse/nutritionist for Mr. Jackson was around much before his death although it sounds like he contacted her a few times over a couple months before his death, the last one being 4 days before he passed. I think she may have suspected he had it but didn't know forsure that he had obtained Diprovan. Why she didn't say anything I don't know, but I am glad that she came forward right away with what she knew, if she didn't then the police may not be looking at Diprovan as the med that killed him. Can't trust Dr. Murray to disclose that information, not with the medication having such a short half life. He probably thought he was in the clear with the amount of time wasted. After all it wasn't until just recently that we finally heard that he admitted to administering it to him within 24 hours of Mr. Jackson's death.

The truth will prevail.....and I can't wait! Then Mr. Jackson can rest in peace and his children and family can move forward under the guidence, love and light that is Michael Jackson.


Pacific Sun   August 3rd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

Jen

Your reading of the quote makes sense in that context. I don't disagree at all. It's just so weird that the doctor would be involving Prince and by-passing other adults.

The only other thing I remembered is the report claiming the children saw their father collapse and were visibly and vocally upset. But who knows when and how.

It does make you wonder if MJ had indicated in some way that he wanted to see his son. If so that would make the story even more awful, although that's barely possible.


Guest Writer   August 3rd, 2009 7:08 pm ET

People can't understand why this story doesn't go away to make room for only the positive and lasting good memories. Actually it will.

Not that there is any comparison but once the Anna Nicole case went to trial you didn't hear much more about it.

This story however is filled with so many contradictions. it's just hard to wrap your mind around the enormous irreplaceable loss. Much less to try and do so without being able to understand why.

If any good comes of this discussion hopefully it will send a message to everyone to be grateful for what they have, to appreciate beauty and all the gifts of joy in their lives today, and to take special care of the children.

Be sensitive and gentle and understanding and patient.

To remind others that dealing with a substance they have no medical use for can and will lead down a dangerous and wasteful path.


Jen   August 3rd, 2009 10:51 pm ET

Oh Pacific Sun, it is hard to understand what goes through the mind of Dr. Murray, it doesn't seem like much he does has ever made sense. My opinion on the Prince question you posed above about why by-pass the adults in the home and what strikes me is two things;

First being that we've heard reported that in the past couple months the financial adviser was hiring and firing and hiring and firing a great deal of the staff members. I even heard this included the nanny, and I don't mean Grace the nanny as she was reportedly let go sometime in 2008. As Dr. Murray only had dealings with Mr. Jackson then its quite possible that he may not have even known who the nanny was to call for her to keep the children down stairs, as he really only came at night and left in the morning. He probably only knew less than a handful of people in the house (by name or otherwise) and may have been certain that Prince was close by as I don't think they went anywhere outside the home without their father's presence. That and I think the children were on a daily routine so he most likely knew where they may be in the house. It sounds like there wasn't many people in the house at the time because he was hollering for security too which didn't seem to be readily around. But I still think that he called upon Prince to let him know that an ambulance would be coming to take his father to the hospital and to please keep his sister and brother downstairs no matter what they see or hear.

Which leads me to my second point being that it was known from Ms. Chase that the rule of the house was that only Mr. Jackson, the doctor, the children and security were allowed upstairs. Panic would be taking over the house within minutes and Dr. Murray had to make sure that the children stayed downstairs and he called for the only people that would be allowed upstairs at the time. Because Prince was the oldest I think he informed him what was going on incase the other children tried to run upstairs to be with their father. Prince could at least try to stop them or run after them if that were the case, but more importantly Paris and Blanket might listen to Prince more than another adult about what was going on with their father and he could keep them calm. Prince seems smart and laid back and probably would have understood the urgency of the situation and to keep the others calm and under control until they knew more. I don't belive Dr. Murray would want the children to see what was going on and I don't think Mr. Jackson would be in any position to ask for his son, he wouldn't want anyone to see him like that especially his children.

I know the early reports said that he collapsed in front of the kids but it doesn't jive with what the paramedics reported about arriving and seeing Mr. Jackson lying in bed hooked up to the IV. Also Dr. Murray said he waited 30 minutes to call 911, in that time if it was in front of the kids they know enough to call 911 or notify the nanny, security, the chef right away that there was something wrong and to call for help. They would have been histerical, instead we hear they were reportedly, from Ms. Chase, playing quitely in the den. It was an initial report, but I don't believe it to be true now.

I have something to throw out there about the burial, not sure if this should be on another thread, but here goes. I don't live in the US but I have heard about the proposal for Neverland being his final resting place, I don't agree with this as it appears quite clear that he never wished to return. I am wondering however if its possible for him to be laid to rest at Haven Hurst, the Jackson family home in Encino. If you think about it the family would have to go through the same hoops as if they wanted a Neverland burial by getting permission from the state and county/city. It would make sense as the home was originally purchased by Mr. Jackson (Michael) over 30 years ago and it is peacful, private and could be protected and monitored. Even if they are not granted a burial is it unheard of for them to do an 'above ground' resting place like a tomb? And do they need the states permission for this? It's one of the few places he could actually rest in peace, and it's a place he really loved and will most likely remain in the Jackson family forever. Just a thought....


Michelle Marshall Ransom Canyon TX   August 4th, 2009 1:07 am ET

You are a amazing lady Kai, you did a wonderful job in your interview God bless you , you where very lucky to work for amazing man .

Same thing for being around the kids , i hope that you are ok , now and that your heart is ok because i know you are sad and missing michael.


Michelle Marshall Ransom Canyon TX   August 4th, 2009 1:11 am ET

One other thing that i wanted to say , thank you kai for speaking good of michael and showing the good side that is what he wanted so much .

He was amazing man you saw everything that i saw the GREAT MAN , THE KINDESS SOUL IN THE WORLD GOD BLESS HIM AND YOU KAI .


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