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July 30, 2009

LKL last night – Debating the Gates case

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joni   July 30th, 2009 10:39 am ET

Obama is a racist.


d5   July 30th, 2009 11:01 am ET

Everyone needs to allow President Obama to do whatever his purpose for the Police officer, and Lewis Gates visit to the Whitehouse is to take place. Stop talking about it on every news station, because it has escalated out of control, and this is to lower his reputation as a President. Yes this was unfortunate, No the caller did not do anything wrong, (I hope my neighbors look out for my home that way). I applaud her. Yes it was very wrong for the Jounalist "Lyn Sweet" to bring up the subject of "Race" at the end of President Obamas "PRESS CONFERENCE". this is not the first time this has happened, The conference was about "AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE". not for Black people, white , Hispanic or Mexicans people,this was about all americans. Ms. Sweet thought it was the appropriate time to " SET HIM UP". Yes,he answered out of friendship and not protocol , a mistake, how many of you haven't. LET THIS GO, MOVE ON FROM THIS. THIS IS , AND WAS , "PETTY". THERE ARE MORE CRITICAL PROBLEMS IN AMERICA TO RESOLVE, LET THIS MAN DO HIS JOB, AND AMERICA LEARN TO FINE SOME PEACE AMONG OURSELVES. Ignorence is Bliss.


john taylor   July 30th, 2009 11:02 am ET

LARRY:
please, promise me , no stupid questions today about the meeting over a beer today!was it cold?, was there pretzels?, what kind was it?–etc, etc.
I KNOW YOUR MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THE MORNING TALK SHOWS, AND THE MORONS ON MSNBC!!!!!
cover the story, share facts, and leave the idiotic remarks to those, who are having an ongoing , "drooling love affair" with obama!!!!!


d5   July 30th, 2009 11:08 am ET

To Joni: How can our President be a racist when he is always promoting peace, do you know what a Racist is? and What Racism is? This is what I 've written in my last statement , there are some of you out there who flat out don't want peace. Is it because we've always been divided as a people, and some of you just don't understand what peace is?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 11:18 am ET

Bottom line: Police officers are allowed the privilege to arrest on the assumption that they won’t abuse that privilege. Officer Crowley abused his privilege by taking his frustration and anger and embarassment out on an angry, indignant, and yet innocent man.

President Obama merely stated an obvious fact that makes most people uncomfortable. The Cambridge police department acted stupidly in arresting a man for being upset about being treated liek a criminal for getting stuck out of his own house, and getting upset about being wrongly accused by a person whose race historically is known for subjugating that man {gates} race, and in particular, those who have law enforcement careers.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 11:19 am ET

Joni is a racist.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 11:20 am ET

In order to get this point across accurately and to drive it home, I suggest that all officers go to jail, and go through all of the procedures [start to finish], and be held over night, and for a period of no less than twenty-four (24) hours, in protective custody if necessary, so that they will firmly grasp the magnitude of their actions. It will help them “Empathize” with the people they intend to put there. This should be implemented immediately as a part of training. Not a makeshift, secured cell, but an actual cell with actual inmates.

What will his or her charge be? Obstruction of justice and/or Contempt of court. He must make up his, or she must make up her, own story. He or she must be given three days to prepare for the ordeal, but it should be done. The applying officer must be told of this on his or her application, and should be given a questionnaire on the facilities and treatment. Jail guards should not be informed as to who is who until AFTER the 24 hours, and then given evaluation papers from the applying officer and the warden of the jail or person in similar office to a warden (Head Marshall maybe). First, this will likely give officers a healthy dose of reality, and second, it would likely end the idea that officers “don’t know what it’s like.” The likely result: greater support from the public; even the difficult people.

As an added recommendation to help these officers along, I have 4 book Titles for them to consider picking up: “How to win friends and Influence People”, by dale Carnegie, “Verbal Judo”, by George J. Thompson, a former police officer and a Ph.D., “Exploring Social Psychology; Third Edition”, by Baron, Byrne, and Suls, and last, but definitely not least, “The Shaping of the American Past; Fifth edition”, by Robert Kelley.

The first two books will show how proper police work is executed, as well as illustrate time tested and researched techniques in obtaining compliance with 98% of the public in non aggressive, peace engendering ways.

The third will show that in 1961 a test was given devised by Arnold Buss where teachers were told that they would “instruct the learner by administering non lethal, but potentially painful, electric shocks to the learner whenever the learner made a mistake.” “Two measures are often obtained: the strength (severity) and the duration (Length of time shock is administered). These findings have been replicated with other, more realistic measures of aggression (in other words: verbal aggression, cutting in line in front of others, horn honking, ratings of overt aggressive actions).”

One of the top reasons for aggression is past history of violent behavior, and the knowledge norms concerning aggression. Police officers are in normally violent situations; I am not (though to tell the absolute truth, just because a person has a violent past, doesn’t mean that violent past will come up again. Once a thief, always a thief is the worst possible reason to misjudge someone). The book also shows that the strength and duration of these non-lethal, potentially painful, shocks was higher and longer when the person was first insulted, and when no explanation was given prior to the shocks and sounds, as to why such treatment happened.

The third and fourth will show precedence, and remind them of why we need them, why we count on them, and why we appreciate it when they do things right. I recommend Chapter 4 in that fourth book. Concentrate on the dealings of William Penn. Maybe you’ve heard of him; former owner of the Pennsylvania colony and civil rights activist, 1674.

As an added bonus, looking at a dictionary every once in a while might help too. I have stated previously that correlations are not necessarily causalities. However, I am not so dumb as to be unaware of the fact that they become popular dogmas if not put into check. That is the reason for my recommendations.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 11:27 am ET

Officers have become accustomed to not having their decisions questioned or second guessed, and that type of thinking needs to be doen away with. They have become too accomidated with not having any public oversight, and that needs to be done away with. They have become too accutomed to not being held accountable, and that needs to be done away with.

EVERYONE is familiar with the fact that officers get a bad rap and are given a hard time, but that is not an excuse for them to misuse their authority and abuse their power.

I really wish Race hadn't needed to be brought into this, but sadly, it did. If it werent' for that issue, we wouldnt' be talking about this abuse of power at all; which is exactly what this is. A case of an officer overstepping his bounds in retaliation for getting a deserved tongue lashing by an irate man, treated like a criminal in his own home.

If Gates had been white, the facts of the case would have remained the same, but it would have gotten far less attention. If gates had been white and anything but a Cambridge professor, it would have only made second to last page news, IF it got in the papers at all.

And that's sad; almost as sad as Joni's racism.


sonnyrice   July 30th, 2009 11:28 am ET

President could have forwarded this letter instead of speaking to nation:

My Fellow American’s, Sgt. Crowley And Prof. Gates,

Please listen before you alter fates. Do not let one’s pride, Restart this great nation to divide. Look at what is happening in such a short time, What this is undoing is really the crime. All across America people are upset, Now I ask each of you what good will all this get? A learning lessons already taught, So many people’s mending has been for naught.

A man has risen to lead us all, Do not be a part of America’s fall. This is the year of our lord, two thousand and nine, So please do what you all know to be divine. One planet, one race, as one beating heart, The world may end some day, please do not be the start. We lead the world with freedom first, Do not let racism quench it’s undying thirst. To not enslave us all at last, Lets look forward away from our past. The mistakes we make and continue to do, Could spell the end of more then me and you, by bringing down our great nation, All of this for the sake of sensation. I ask you not to let our enemies see, such things may still live in the land of the free.

Yes America there is a change across our land. People are Worried that nothing is going as planned. I know it looks as if everything is turning out wrong. America has endured hardships before and again became strong. We have an advantage over the rest of the world, our nation stands side by side with our arms curled. As one we breath the air others can smell. Our freedoms a tale no other land can tell. Our strengths in unity given with free will. For though its forbidden , to protect it we will kill. In self defense only throughout our proud history. So why others seek to harm us is a true mystery. We open our boarders to all who exist. We die in their lands helping others to resist.

We have always supplied aide to those in need. America grew from an idea that all of its people should be freed.. Tyranny and oppression belong in the past. For to fight against freedom no enemy could last. No chains in the womb, our path to life. So let no one be able to cause another strife. No nation stands as America for freedom. Proven to our enemies as we soundly beat em. The light of America may flicker in some eyes, to them truth and justice, are nothing but lies.

Our fore fathers brought forward a race unseen on this planet for all time. One that believes that to deny freedom is a universal crime. So no matter the troubles that may come our way, The flag of America will gallantly lead the way. Together we stand, never to fall, so remember we are the greatest nation of all.

I love the different colors of man, We were created according to plan. So different and the same, All of us with our own name. Man and woman free to combine, To create new life is so divine. Able to mix and mingle, No one has to be single. Banding together to survive, I for one am happy to be alive. If we all looked alike it would not be nice, I’m so glad to be the only Sonny Rice.


Cocovelvet   July 30th, 2009 11:28 am ET

I HAVE TO SAY THIS ISSUE HAVE REACHED SUCH A HEATED POINT THAT IF PEOPLE START CALLING A PRESIDENT A RACIST; THEN ITS REALLY SERIOUS.

The issue on its own is so sensitive and no doubt has opened many old wounds from all fronts and sides that everybody seems to be starting to over-react. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!


B.Sobel   July 30th, 2009 11:40 am ET

First – Maybe if everyone stopped labelling (i.e., the first BLACK president, the first HISPANIC Woman judge, the first CATHOLIC whatever, etc) everyone would stop with all the racial BS. If there is just President, or Governor, then that's all we're going to see. It's when you add the race or sex or whatever label is the main reason why that's all that is seen.

Second – The President should have kept out of the situation, because he said what he said (which I believe he was wrong to critisize the police) he cause this to be a national uproar with everyone taking sides.

Third – whether you are black, white, or green with purple polka dots the police were doing their jobs when they asked the professor to step outside and show ID. And if they weren't doing their jobs the way they were suppose to be and this professor ended up hurt or killed, the police would be the first to be blamed again.

Finally – from what I have read and heard from several different news reports, the professor acted like an Ass and should be ashamed of his actions.


Sonia Vivar   July 30th, 2009 11:58 am ET

Smart move Mr. Prez, so much was lost with one word "stupidly". I hope your choice in friends and your decision to come out of the closet with a reminder that your a black man first and then president, was worth the disappointment many of us are feeling.

svivar9087


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 11:59 am ET

Sorry Kiddo; there's no law against being an ass. Even to a police officer.

Sure they were just doing their jobs... just barely.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Should he have rhymed his sentences too Sonny Rice?


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 12:05 pm ET

I agree ... Bravo Mr. President. Bravo for ofering an intelligent opinion on the subject. Thank you so much for indicating that you didnt' have all the facts, and were not sure at all that it had anything to do with race, and instead commented on the officers actions rather than the speculation in the press.

Thank you so much for being honest and our hats are off to you for doing the exact right thing at the exact right time in the exact right way with the exact right words to the exact right people.

I'm glad we now, finally, have president that use his brains instaed of his bravado, and that tells the uncomfortable truths. It's good to finally see an honest, educated man in the white house.

Thank you Mr. President for giving us all your opinion. And thank you too to all the naysayers, because without your comments and opinions we would all be unfamiliar with just how stupid you all are and why. Thank you because you naysayer have shown us that you are either ignorant or willfully stupid, and completely oblivious to the fact that it was never about race, but about abuse of power. Period.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 12:06 pm ET

I agree … Bravo Mr. President. Bravo for ofering an intelligent opinion on the subject. Thank you so much for indicating that you didnt’ have all the facts, and were not sure at all that it had anything to do with race, and instead commented on the officers actions rather than the speculation in the press. Unlike the last jerkoff we had in the executive chair at the white house and the idiots who supported that idiot.


Barb   July 30th, 2009 12:08 pm ET

I think everyone was wrong! I hope this "beer summit" puts the whole thing to rest. And shame on whoever sent threats to the woman who called 911! My neighbor's wife called 911 by accident once and hung up quickly. The police came to the house just when her husband was coming out of the garage. They had guns drawn and told him to feeze!
He did exactly as he was told. It was pretty tense, but everyone kept their cool. It should have been that way in Cambridge, Mass.


Bill Cooper   July 30th, 2009 12:15 pm ET

Larry, You showed your bias by letting the pro-gates pro Obama guys say whatever they wanted, while constantly interrupting the black gentleman who thought the president should apologize. Your interference was palpable.


BC   July 30th, 2009 12:24 pm ET

James in Idaho,
You are an angry, name calling, wordy person. You are obviously a left wing Bush hater, yet you espouse such "intelligent" offerings for others.
Take your own advice given in your numerous words above and get over your hatred for Bush. He's not president any more. Don't choke on the kool aid either.


Patricia   July 30th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

There were two racists – Obama and Gates. One other thing Larry King, you were rude to Larry Elder last evening and cut him off. Why? Becasue you did not agree with him or because he is a Republician and you saw no need to pander as you did to the other two and to Powell the night before. Enough of the nonsense and get on to more important things going on in the world. Make sure you do not follow-up the racist meeting at the White House as to what beer, etc......Sgt. Crowley should never have agreed to meet these two especially Gates as he is a race baiter.....


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 30th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Bill, you misinterpret... Larry was only pointing out that the black gentleman who didn't support Obama and gates Ignorance was palpable.


Damian in California   July 30th, 2009 12:48 pm ET

Dear Mr. Larry,
Away with all the reasoning,postulating and waiting for racisim to go away in America. This has gone on for decades with less than zero resolution.......Therefore.......I propose a Clockwork Orange tax. When enough funding is generated, any one who shows the propensity for hating people without just cause ( IE; racism) will be taken in for an evaluation followed by a Clockwork Orange Type of treatment (refer to any local Stanley Kubrick box set ! ). If the accused is not hateful as "they" always claim, no problem. If you do display hateful speech, or behavior, the Stock values for Emetrol will pass Gold, Oil and every thing else. This would be a win win for our economy and All peace loving people everywhere.
Thanx Luv, Damian J.
p.s. I was only dreaming.


Jennifer in Huntsville, AL   July 30th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

The definition of racism is hatred or intolorance of another race. Let's review who is being intolorant of the other. All I am seeing in all of these posts is the hatred of whites. Let me ask you, there is a black TV network, there are black only award shows, there is the NAACP, and all that is acceptable. What would happen if we had a white awards show, a white only TV network and so on? There was even a politician a few years ago who publicly stated he was supporting a certain football team in the SuperBowl because they had a black quarterback. Seems to me there is double standard at work here. Seems to me that there are racists on both sides!!


G Hood   July 30th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

I admit I haven't kept up with the debate or blogs, however my suggestion is that Mr. Gates be required to serve 3 months community service riding with the cambridge police officer of his choice.
The police officer should be required to attend college classes on a subject near to what Mr. Gates is a professor of ..not necessarily taught by Mr. Gates.

That way each can gain a respect and understanding of the other's job and environment.

That's my humble opinion.

The police officer this day and time are continuously questioned as far as proper procedures, giving the criminals "their rights" while they are more and more targets of the press, the politicians and the criminals.


mike allen   July 30th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

Well; if an officer came to my door to make sure there wasn't a robbery in effect I would be appreciative of the fact that the police were looking out for my best interest. At that point I would be happy to furnish him with as much information to take away any suspicion. After all I was the one forcing entry,...HELLO.
Sounds like the professor was having a bad day and should apologise.
It's things like this that tend to bite one in the behind especially when one really needs help.
P.S. I'm European-American and have been pulled over and searched.
I think it was a wise man that said "life isn't fair"


whipitquic   July 30th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

Never in my 78 years did I ever expect to see such American stupidity
First you talking heads are not reporters you are parrots.
On and on and on one after the other.Same dumb subject.
Health care.? Why is the president talking himself hoarse,you are mostly too ignorant and stupid to understand what he trying to do for you .
My comment Forget it Obama let the idiots suffer.
The gates case. Obama correct again police were stupid.No proper police procedure .1 why was the house not searched for suspect intruders 2 reported.
Why when things got sticky did the supervisory officer remain outside.?.Why two sergeants for perps.?.
Report differed from wittness.
Report differed from wittness statement.
Your guests . One man of colour smelt like a republican.
My last cooment but not my last thought on your gormless nation.
Bill is quite correct and my thought THANK HEAVENS I AM A CANADIAN>


laurna Davis   July 30th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

Re The Dr.Gates issue, I feel that although the caller did not
mention the men were black we are brainwashed with the
stereotypes of black men being the robbers. A BLACK MAN
WHO HAS FELT THE PANGS OF RACISM – I FEEL WHEN
CONFRONTED IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT IS A RIVER OF FUEL
WAITING TO BE IGNITED IF HE FEELS ANY NEGATIVE TREATMENT.

NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT THE POLICE SAID TO HIM AT THE
BEGINNING, BUT – AND HERE'S THE BUT, IF PROFESSOR GATES
SAID IT'S MY HOME NICELY, HE SHOULD HAVE CHECKED OUT
THE INFO THOROUGHLY AND APOLOGIZED. E S P E C I A L L Y
THIS POLICE TRAINS OTHERS REGARDING RACIAL ISSUES. WOW.

My son has been rude to police more than once, but he had
a lot of race issues growing up. Believe me I worked with
him. He even embarrased me on 3 different occasions – saying
the police hate black men. I HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO THE POLICE
FOR HIM. HE'S MATURED ALOT AND CALMED DOWN NOW AND HE
WAS BY NO MEANS AND ANGEL. I THOUGHT BECAUSE HE
HAD LOW SELF ESTEEM PLAYED A ROLE. BUT DR. G A T E S
IS HIGHLY EDUCATED SO THERE YOU GO. CHILDREN SEE THINGS. MY SON EVEN SAID ONE DAY – IF I WAS LITTLE BOBBY
JONES – THINGS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. I WOULD LIKE TO
VOLUNTEER AND WORK WITH KIDS IN THIS SITUATION – WE
SHOULD ALL CHANGE THIS STUFF NOW. I'M SO GLAD WE
ARE SPEAKING OUT. REMEMBER I'M NOT A RACIST, I LOVE
EVERYONE. AND THE BLAME GAME HAS TO STOP ALSO. We
are a very decent family, my son is the so called BLACK SHEEP OF THE FAMILY (which did not help) and he has a great fear for
POLICEMEN even to this day and he's now. 30.

I bet if one of
the female caller's friends asked her behind closed doors if
they were black, she would be quick to say possibly. My other
son is very light (more confident and did not hang around kids
who were likely to get into trouble with the police. He has never been stereotyped and when he
got 1 speeding ticket he knew he was wrong. (age 29) He does
say however, that if he did not get his degree, he's briliant by the
way (i call him my little obama) HE IS NOT YOUR TALL BLUE
EYED WHITE GUY IN THE OFFICE SO HE WILL NOT BE THE
PRESIDENT, but he made it and is on his way to success.

I am 59 – one night in June 09 I waited in my car outside a
night club for my nephew, with the seat way back so the police
could not see anyone, by the way I'm caribbean so I didnt
understand the American racism about 'BLACK" I just saw
myself as a human being. Anyway the Police came up to my
window and surprised me ASKED IF I HAD BEEN DRINKING
I SAID TO THEM "NO OFFICER I AM A SENIOR I DO NOT DRINK
OR SMOKE" stupid answer – they laughed said oh man and
walked away.


laurna Davis   July 30th, 2009 2:01 pm ET

OBAMA IS NOT A R A C I S T

THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT IN HISTORY. HIS PRESIDENCY

HAS FINALLY GIVEN US A MOMENT IN HISTORY TO DISCUSS

RACISM IN A CIVILIZED WAY. THIS IS THE MOMENT, THIS IS THE

DAY IN HISTORY, EVERY GENERATION BRINGS A GREAT

LEADER. IT'S NO COINCIDENCE HE IS AFRICAN AND WHITE

AMERICAN AND SUCH A FINE FAMILY. I BELIEVE THIS WITH

ALL MY HEART. HAD THIS BEEN A BLACK POLICE AND A WHITE

GUY HE WOULD HAVE TREATED THEM FAIRLY. WHAT HAVE

ALL THIS SING SONG ABOUT CHANGE DURING THE CAMPAIGN

COME ON FOLKS. BEHAVE YOURSELVES – LETS WORK

TOGETHER. AMERICA IS SHOWING THE WORLD THAT ALL

THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT. I HAVE

MORE TO SAY BUT HAVE TO GET A LIFE RIGHT NOW. LOVE YOUR

SHOWS LARRY, THEY HELP US TO LEARN AND GROW KEEP

UP THE GREATTTTTTTTTTT WORK.


Davis   July 30th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

Larry was not rude to Larry Elder. He asked Larry Elder a question that he danced all around and did not answer the direct question Larry King asked. He just wanted to critize President Obama and Gates. He (Larry Elder) did not have any substance to what he was saying. I am glad Larry stopped him, because he said a whole lot of nothing. I guess he was trying to make himself look self rightous in return he made his self look ignorant and disconnected. The other 3 panelist came with fact and good ways to reduce the problem. Larry Elder is not a representative of anybody, but himself. He is a weak man a butt kisser. Always has been and always will be!!!!


Georgian   July 30th, 2009 2:12 pm ET

Our president is a racist? Oh well, we survived a dumbass.


John Livernois confidential please   July 30th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

LOUIS GATES MULTI – MULTI MILLION DOLLOR SCAM

It was Important breaking into his house the day he arrived from China, Gates would not only be national but international news... In less then 16hrs of work.

Important that a strange car and people would be at the house.

Important that a strange man left the house with strange car pulling off. adding to mystery.

He knowingly left the house in an area where break-ins are frequent with easy access

Important that the break in was easy, so that he would be in the house calling security, when he bet 99.9% the police were on the way.

It was important that the break in would be easy, so his face would be to the door, not allowing anyone to identify him

He could have called security to home first knowing sub has history of break-ins, also he could have went to friends house and called lock smith,

However he chose to break the screen door and jimmy door... now the Harvard house in seconds looks like the white trailer park trash people. … and this is a Harvard teacher, not one I would want to learn from.

It was important that he did not have state id, only his Harvard id.. not meaning anything.. knowing that there are a lot of look alike out there.

It was important for him to yell racial profiling first, and he was the only one doing it.

It was important to overly loud verbally abusing the officer doing his job. he followed the cop out side doing the same ….. so he would get arrested.

Now he is as famous and more as Obama in less then 16 hours, his Emmy award play has bought him claim to fame, now being more famous then Obama. And even taking away from the presidents work and the press..

This scam will make him multi millions and his new book he plans to write.. if he really was upset he would not have thought of the book so soon.. Also making his other book which was a failure another multi million dollar winner….

This 16 hr. scam has made him the modern day oppressed black person in America today and will go down in history.. From a book failure and teacher to financial success and a modern day legend and in history for his people.


mike allen   July 30th, 2009 2:30 pm ET

Larry King kept interrupting when he didn't agree with the point of view
I don't know what he was trying to prove but it didn't sit well with me.
Where's Walter Cronkite...
Gonna miss you Larry


John   July 30th, 2009 2:31 pm ET

LOUIS GATES MULTI – MULTI MILLION DOLLOR SCAM

It was Important breaking into his house the day he arrived from China, Gates would not only be national but international news… In less then 16hrs of work.

Important that a strange car and people would be at the house.

Important that a strange man left the house with strange car pulling off. adding to mystery.

He knowingly left the house in an area where break-ins are frequent with easy access

Important that the break in was easy, so that he would be in the house calling security, when he bet 99.9% the police were on the way.

It was important that the break in would be easy, so his face would be to the door, not allowing anyone to identify him

He could have called security to home first knowing sub has history of break-ins, also he could have went to friends house and called lock smith,

However he chose to break the screen door and jimmy door… now the Harvard house in seconds looks like the white trailer park trash people. … and this is a Harvard teacher, not one I would want to learn from.

It was important that he did not have state id, only his Harvard id.. not meaning anything.. knowing that there are a lot of look alike out there.

It was important for him to yell racial profiling first, and he was the only one doing it.

It was important to overly loud verbally abusing the officer doing his job. he followed the cop out side doing the same ….. so he would get arrested.

Now he is as famous and more as Obama in less then 16 hours, his Emmy award play has bought him claim to fame, now being more famous then Obama. And even taking away from the presidents work and the press..

This scam will make him multi millions and his new book he plans to write.. if he really was upset he would not have thought of the book so soon.. Also making his other book which was a failure another multi million dollar winner….

This 16 hr. scam has made him the modern day oppressed black person in America today and will go down in history.. From a book failure and teacher to financial success and a modern day legend and in history for his people.


John   July 30th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

LOUIS GATES MULTI – MULTI MILLION DOLLOR SCAM

It was Important breaking into his house the day he arrived from China, Gates would not only be national but international news… In less then 16hrs of work.

Important that a strange car and people would be at the house.

Important that a strange man left the house with strange car pulling off. adding to mystery.

He knowingly left the house in an area where break-ins are frequent with easy access

Important that the break in was easy, so that he would be in the house calling security, when he bet 99.9% the police were on the way.

It was important that the break in would be easy, so his face would be to the door, not allowing anyone to identify him

He could have called security to home first knowing sub has history of break-ins, also he could have went to friends house and called lock smith,

However he chose to break the screen door and jimmy door… now the Harvard house in seconds looks like the white trailer park trash people. … and this is a Harvard teacher, not one I would want to learn from.

It was important that he did not have state id, only his Harvard id.. not meaning anything.. knowing that there are a lot of look alike out there.

It was important for him to yell racial profiling first, and he was the only one doing it.

It was important to overly loud verbally abusing the officer doing his job. he followed the cop out side doing the same ….. so he would get arrested.

Now he is as famous and more as Obama in less then 16 hours, his Emmy award play has bought him claim to fame, now being more famous then Obama. And even taking away from the presidents work and the press..

This scam will make him multi millions and his new book he plans to write.. if he really was upset he would not have thought of the book so soon.. Also making his other book which was a failure another multi million dollar winner….

This 16 hr. scam has made him the modern day oppressed black person in America today and will go down in history.. From a book failure and teacher to financial success and a modern day legend and in history for his people.

Obama's remark shows him racial profiling, against the white officer before he knows the facts, I hope this does not happen again.


Ricky in VA   July 30th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

Maybe the country will become open-minded when any one of your ad-hoc panels become open minded. This is a personal observation, but when your panel (or any other so called news/entertainment show panel) is made up of journalist, the debate is usually interesting and enlightening - even when there is a noticable left or right bias. Bring in the experts and political hacks, however, and I'm changing the channel. I'm not interested in seeing people interrupt each other and shout each other down –many times with the help of the moderator.
Truth and reason is often found in the middle.

BTW, Larry should apologize to Mr. Elder for continually being rude and disrespectful to him. Maybe invite him back on the show for a beer.


Catherine-Denver   July 30th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

This is truly an unfortunate incident but any way we slice it or discuss it, one thing is very obvious, white-black hair trigger tension is always very near to the surface in this country. Maybe this is a really good time to bring all of this out without pulling any punches, nothing else seems to work. I went to college in the late 60's, had friends in the Civil Rights movement, went to Ralph Abernathy's Poor People's March on Washington (look how far we've come), campaigned for Bobby Kennedy, worked to implement social programs and taught social studies in public schools for many years. And it seems that more hate is generated there than ever before. American Hisory being taught through the lens of the Black experience so this whole thing just is perpetuates to our young people. What are whites to do ? Nothing is ever enough or right. My ancestors were poor and came over to this country with nothing, only a dream; we didn't have any slaves and I don't know anyone who did. Does anyone remember Kent State??? I believe those were all white students who were shot, what about all of the "Peace Protests", I believe it was mostly white students who were clubbed at the "68 Democratic Convention. 40 years ago. That's a long time for us to still being called African-Americans, Latinos, Whites.....That constant labeling only exaccerbates this huge racisl divide. They don't do it in France, Britain, or Portugal where the caller of this 911 tape had so recently immigrated from- she was color blind! That's why she so readily made the call inwhich she thought a person's property might be in harm! So I think that this is a very critical moment in our country worthy of all of this controvery. An "honest moment" as well as a "teachable moment ".


Vivien Wolsk, Ph.D New York City   July 30th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Obama should speak up for the gay community as he did for the Black community.


Mark   July 30th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

A police officer went to investigate a possible break-in reported by a conscientious neighbor. When the officer spoke to the person at the residence he found an uncooperative and belligerent man who refused to identify himself, a man who repeatedly insulted the officer by calling him a racist and making vulgar comments about the officer and his family. The panel guest who commended Mr. Gates for his uncooperative and foul behavior was a farce. Mr. Gates was not arrested for being a Black person; those who make that claim ignore or distort what actually happened. Mr. Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct. Race was not an issue. Furthermore, Mr. Gates’ claims of racial profiling are unfounded and irrelevant. It is all too obvious which one is the racist. It is a shame that our society can allow a hypocrite to hide behind an academic façade. We saw Mr. Gates’ true colors that day. Sadly, he has lost any credibility that he may have had.


DONALD CHILDS   July 30th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

What I have found interesting is that you have a Judge sitting right there with Larrry King and the others and yet Larry King, Larry Elder, and Bob Stein completely tried to gloss over everything he said. The Judge referenced the Constutionality of this arrest. We are a country of laws and the Judge said time and time again that Officer Crawley broke the law not Professor Gates. Yet Larry, Larry, and Stein kept spinning in favor of the Police Officer. The Judge kept his cool and pretty much laughed them off. I bet you you won't find anyone spinning the Judge's Laughter. As a matter of find Professor Gates will be laughing all the way to the bank.


Queen of Pop   July 30th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Stupidly and Initially, I believed that Gates overreacted and still do, but now I am led to question Crowley's demeanor. Yes, I am an African American Woman that faces profiling daily...

What was the reason for Crowley to submit a false police report? Why did Crowley imply that the 911 caller gave a description of 2 black men with bags? What does that mean to this case? If the burgulars were black, did that accelerate the arrival of the police? If they were white, is it assumed that they lived there?

These questions are critical in this situation. I could teach a class on abortion, but may not believe it should be allowed. Crowley taught a class on racial profilinf, does this mean that he is not racist? Yes, Crowley overreacted and handled this situation with prejudice...


Britney Cobb   July 30th, 2009 3:53 pm ET

I believe our nation has come to far for us to be still using racism as a way to justify another actions. I simply believe that both parties act irrationally and should have handle the situation in a more mature manner. I believe the only problem in this situation is each party fell to see eye to eye and come to a common ground. This situation I believe should not have reach the president. As men and women of one nation under God we should have enough love to not see one another as ememies, but helper one to another. I think there is a valuable lesson in this. A house divide within its self will not stand. No matter how i look or appear we all need to treat each other with respect. Having said all this the question is, now are we going to move forward and learn from this,or is this just another setback?


Shonda   July 30th, 2009 4:00 pm ET

No, I do not believe that Crowley is racist, I am African American. I do believe that Gates and Crowley, both are arrogant.

I do believe that Crowley did handle this case with prejudice. Not a racial prejudice, but prejudice in regards to personality. I believe that Crowley reacted based on the action of Gates. Crowley felt as if he was being disrespected when Gates tried to "bully" him, asking for his name and badge number.

Gates, being a distinguished Harvard Professor, felt as if he should not have been questioned because he showed proof that he resided there, but if Crowley had reassured Gates, that this was police policy and procedure, Gates would have better received the embarrasing questions from Crowley.


Ms. Romeo   July 30th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

Why, Why, Why?

Gates, Obama and Crowley! Stop it! Grow up! You all lose!

The teachable moment is: Proverbs 145: 8, The Lord is gracious and full of compassion; slow to anger and of great mercy...

Good Cop, Good Teacher and Good President! It is time to put an end to this torment.

Please, stop speaking to the media! I believe that everyone has some type of prejudice for something or someone that possess or is different from what they believe to be the norm!

The moral of the story is, Be kind and curteous, don't become so easily upset and offended and learn to forgive, place yourself in someone else's shoe. Learn to be self-less! This is God's wish of man....


Barbara Cofer   July 30th, 2009 4:47 pm ET

No good deed goes unpunished. This woman was doing her duty as a citizen. I hope we all have neighbors that are willing to help others. I believe that officers are in danger everyday and they don't know what they are getting into when approaching a situation. How did the officer not know that this man wasn't armed?


John   July 30th, 2009 5:51 pm ET

sorry about all the posts, I thought It would over ride the previous ones.

first timer

John


JSwasey   July 30th, 2009 5:57 pm ET

I would like to know why it took the Cambridge Police Dept. so long to release the 911 tape in the Gates case. The woman who called in very clearly said she did not know if the two men lived there. This should have given the police a clue it may not be a burglary. The tape was not released until days after the media blitz.

Regarding Officer Jason Barrett, he should be fired. There is no justification for his behavior, and it strongly suggests there is an undercurrent of biogtry at the police department.


mia   July 30th, 2009 6:05 pm ET

Professor Gates Deserves an Apology

I am so sick and tired of white America downplaying racism and its affect on black Americans. It seems to be the perception that just because black Americans are no longer on plantations then racism no longer exists. Unfortunately, racism is alive and well but has managed to partially hide itself from view. It is so ingrained in society that it is almost invisible. Modern racism is subtle and nebulous that even minorities who are the recipients are unable to discern if an actual offense is racist. Yet we know that something just isn’t right and it shows up via disparities in housing, education, incarceration rates, health care, police brutality and the list goes on. These racial microaggressions are usually daily indignities, whether intentional or not, that convey racial slights to people of color. The power of these racial microagressions lies in their invisibility to the perpetrator (Wing, Capodilupo, Torina, et al…., 2007), thus Sgt. Crowley’s adamant stance that he has nothing to apologize for. While many white Americans believe that the outcry coming from the black community is an overreaction, I wonder if they would ever change places with a minority, more specifically a black or Hispanic male, if the opportunity arose. What Professor Gates experienced is not an isolated incident, a one time thing, or some anomaly. To be confronted by police whether the officer is white or black is not a comforting feeling, even when innocent, especially when one is a minority. This has been proven time and time again in cases such as Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, Anthony Baez, Anthony Rosario, Hilton Vega,Abner Louima, and Oscar Green just to name a few. It is very telling when Black mothers teaching their sons how to respond when approached by police officers becomes as natural as teaching him how to tie his shoe.
When looking at the circumstances surrounding the Professor Gates incident we know that by the time the police arrived Prof. Gates was in his home and was asked to show his identification. Prof. Gates despite having obliged was still arrested? Why? Well, Officer Crowley stated that Mr. Gates behavior was “tumultuous” , more specifically he was “mouthing off”. The fact that Mr. Gates may have been mouthing off does not warrant an arrest. Anyone would be frustrated after having to “break into” their own home after a long trip away and then having a police officer question you as if you’re a suspect. You mean to tell me Officer Crowley was unable to empathize, knowing this? You mean to tell me that his 11 yrs as a veteran on the force taught him that an arrest was the best possible outcome? Obama was accurate in noting that Officer Crowley acted quite stupidly. However, for the sake of argument, let’s presume Crowley acted without racial malice, one must then conclude that the arrest was simply a way for the officer to assert his authority over a person who was acting “tumultuous”. It did not matter to Officer Crowley that Mr. Gates was not endangering the life or health of himself or others around him, nor was he committing a crime. If this is the scenario, with the absence of race as a motivating factor for the arrest, there’s no getting away from the fact that Officer Crowley acted quite stupidly.
White Americans seem to be unaware of the advantages they take for granted in this society everyday. When confronted by police officers I am almost positive they do not have the thought that something can go horribly wrong at the hands of those who are entrusted with the safety of its citizens. Unfortunately, those sentiments are not held by many minorities. In 1962 the Negro Revolt by Louis Lomax was published in which he states “another form of racism which every Negro faces is police brutality. A negro does not have to be involved in crime to hear a policeman’s club ringing around his ears”. So, given the racial legacy of the past and how it pertains to blacks and law enforcement this incident with Prof. Gates is experienced by many blacks as a nonrandom pattern. In order to stop this pattern and move forward it is conducive that white people recognize how their attitudes and beliefs allow for unintentional discrimination against those who do not look like them. The feelings of blacks and other minorities in such situations cannot be downplayed and viewed as an opportunity to simply pull the race card. Who would actually get a thrill out of that? There is no clandestine thrill seekers made up of black people who enjoy knowing that one is “systematically misunderstood and underestimated (James Baldwin, 1963) time and again.
It has been over forty years since the above cited quotes from Lomax and Baldwin. Why is it after all these years still relevant?


Bonnie   July 30th, 2009 6:11 pm ET

Hooray for Larry Elder – for the ability to speak the truth!!!! (I am white)


Denise G.   July 30th, 2009 6:37 pm ET

The republic african american took the conversation to a whole different level. He was more interested in politics by trying to criticize the President of the United States of America. It wasn't a racial issue and the police did act stupidly. Gates should have never been arrested. I think your prepublican guest need to apologize to the President of the United States. He also needs to apologize to all African-Americans for minimizing their profiling experiences. He is so jealous of President Obama that you could see it all over his face......Hater


CHM   July 30th, 2009 6:41 pm ET

I am not sure how any black person who calls any other black person an Uncle Tom if he/she supports a white person in any way can call him/herself anything other than racist. I need to come up with a name such as Uncle Tom for all the white people who voted for Obama since they did not vote for the white man. Of course, we already know any black who voted for McCain is an Uncle Tom. Now which group here is racist? Surely i missed something.


kvf   July 30th, 2009 7:22 pm ET

Racism is rampant in the United States and this case in my opinion, is no exception. I am certain that most Americans are aware of the sad but true situation concerning minorities and how they are treated by police officers in this country. Something needs to be done about this. It hurts to see how everyone dances around such a very serious topic. The media focus was directed toward the President's comments when the real issue was racism.
The police officer should be embarrassed by the way he conducted himself. His behavior was deplorable and he should have been reprimanded by his superiors, because I am pretty sure he is trained to handle situations like this.
There was no reason for an officer to hand cuff a gentleman with a cane and a limp. I'm sure there were other more urgent cases the police officer could have attended to that evening, yet he chose to waste time on something so trivial.
The officer should have taken the high road and walked away. Two or three years from now when we all look back on the entire situation, it will most likely be clear in everyone's heart and mind that the entire situation could have been avoided if the officer had just walked away. I am deeply disgusted and sadden by the entire situation.

By the way, I would like to ask you with deep sincerity, that you not invite Larry Elder back on your show. He is such an embarrassment to all African Americans. The words that come out of his mouth are far beyond belief.


Yendor   July 30th, 2009 9:03 pm ET

Ok, I’m really confused on this Gates issue. Once the officers were shown proof that Prof. Gates was indeed the homeowner, that should have resolved the situation. Whatever happened to unlawful search and seizure? They had no right to be in the man’s house, as pointed out by Judge Joe Brown ( supported by a little thing called the Constitution). Also, I thought Obama bashers were against government intrusion and that’s one of the primary reasons they oppose the President (less government)??? Where is the credibilty guys, come on! Let’s call it what it is, an unlawful arrest (by law enforcement) that was immediately dropped and an overreaction by Obama haters in yet another attempt to discredit him, by ant means necessary. Officer Crowley is NOT a racist, just a proud officer who simply could not walk away in front of his peers. Gates anger was justified, but not very smart. As for the man being arrested after being lured outside for that purpose is indeed STUPID!!! They knew it couldn’t stand. Prof. Michael Eric Dyson is brilliant! As for Larry Elder…what an embarrasment to all decent Americans. Seems that the media can always find these handkerchief head fools they trot out to discredit legitimate, albeit difficult, issues while shamelessly trying to promote themselves at the peril of the greater good. Larry Elder, Ward Connally, Michael Steele, Jesse Lee Patterson, and the rest of these useless idiots!!!


Monika   July 30th, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Not surprising that Mr. Gates didn't man up for falsely accusing Police Officer Crowley of this so called 'racial profiling' and major over reacting. Kudos' to Police Officer Crowley's work associate/partner for the very touching supportive letter clearing Crowley, stating that he was professional and there wasn't anything inappropriate on his part in arresting Mr. Gates. Perhaps the civility of this 'Beer Summit' will still prove to be effective in 'moving forward' – but it will be thanks to Police Officer Crowley if it happens.


J Crow   July 30th, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Larry,

Can you ask Ann Coulter what's the deal with "her" adam's apple ?


Sam Kasley   July 30th, 2009 9:47 pm ET

The teaching moment should be for the president. Criticizing a police officer before knowing the facts is no way to support his oath to uphold the laws of the US.


becky selzer   July 30th, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Mr. King,
I realize Mr. Sharpton became a national figure after the case in NY where he supported the "pretend" rape victim. He helped get citizens of the US to hate and distrust police....but why, why, why, have him on the program? PLEASE< would you have had a "skinhead" on your show as a credible spokesperson for this situation?
I am not particularly a fan of Ms. Coulter, but she has no history of lying about a case!!!
I would like to ask them both, "how were you taught to respond to a police person, if you are stopped for speeding, they had entered my house, etc. ....how were each of them taught to respond?
Becky


Michelle   July 30th, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Was that Larry Elder or Step N Fetchin?


sharon carvalho   July 30th, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Law enforcement has this silent code. It's a yardstick by which they measure all of us. They call it "The Attitude Test."

In the moment, you must submit – because right or wrong, they're top dog.

With all due respect, Professor Gates apparently challenged the authority of Officer Crowley. He failed "The Attitude Test."

When you fail "The Attitude Test" – if you're black, white or green – it becomes a "control issue."

When you go toe to toe with law enforcement, they go defensive and you go to jail.

Chalk it up to human nature versus the law of the land.

I hope these two guys continue to take the high road, shake hands, high five and bump it. The whole country is watching this defining "teachable moment." We all have a lot to learn about human nature. So far, I think they've taught us volumes.


Deborah   July 31st, 2009 12:44 am ET

Racial profiling in this day and age is now a two way street. Just as racial profiling occurs against black people, the assumption of white people as racists, is also a form of racial profiling. Racism is just what it means–incorrect or predetermined assumptions of who people are based on what background of which they are a part. Please explain this to your viewers so that everyone can realize that there will be no resolution until all races stop making these same racist mistakes. Everyone is guilty of it in this sense.


Jan Hibbard   July 31st, 2009 12:57 am ET

Who does this police officer think he is? Calling Gates a banana eating
jungle monkey, is shocking, disrespectful, racist and a liar. He thinks
someone should not speak out to a police officer: who does he think he is
some sacred deity? The apology is shallow, inauthentic and embarrassing.
I am a white female and I am convinced i would not have been treated
like Gates was and cannot believe this officer thinks anyone is buying his
apology. Of course he is sorry now because his future is at risk; as it should be. A police officer should indeed be RESPECTFUL and not get
so personally involved. A shame and disappointment that we should
be stupid enough to believe this officer.


Antoinette   July 31st, 2009 1:00 am ET

If the natives asked everyone of their roots, which of our fore fathers would have claimed America as their country today. The real enemy is not the taliban, the real enemy is the American's man inhumanity to man. Havard, the police and the prejudiced, look beyond race and build your nation. The world is laughing at the police of the world. USA. Is there still a civilized and educated American in that country at all? What re you teaching our children? I pray dogs and cats are not taught racism at this stage otherwise the battle might be won, but what about the war?


Antoinette   July 31st, 2009 1:07 am ET

It is intimidating to have graduated from an Ivy league like Havard. The police man was INTIMIDATED. Professor gates, why did you make yourself a victim by uttering the race profiling question? I love watching Judge Joe Brown. He believes in listening more and speaking less. This gives the individual who has verbal diarrhea something to hang himself with. This is how wars begin. Stupid pride coming from inflated gas bags. Get really educated and civilized folks. And America wants to correct the third world countries.


Theresa Smith   July 31st, 2009 1:20 am ET

I find it difficult to listen to Larry Elder's opinion, because he is blind to the life that many minorities live/ face day to day.

Theresa


A. TRUTHFIGHTER1   July 31st, 2009 1:24 am ET

IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THE LADY WHO CALLED 911 SAID SHE NEVER REPORTED THAT "TWO BLACK MEN" WERE TRYING TO BREAK INTO THE PROFESSOR'S HOUSE, CONTRARY TO THE POLICE OFFICER'S OFFICIAL POLICE REPORT.
IF THAT'S THE TRUTH., WHY DID THE POLICE OFFICER LIE IN THE REPORT? WHY DID HE THINK IT WAS NECESSARY TO LIE OR EMBELLISH THE POLICE REPORT AT THE BEST ?

WHY IS THAT NOT MAKING THE NEWS? IS THAT NOT A CRIME TO LIE IN THE A POLICE REPORT? HOW MANY OF US ORDINARY CITIZENS CAN GET AWAY WITH THAT?


Jacolyn Blunt   July 31st, 2009 1:36 am ET

I have never heard anything as ill advised as TV judge Joe Brown said last night. He believed that Officer Crowley was the one who was cupable, as he had entered Professor Gates home and was not welcome. To add fuel to the fire, he then implied that Professor Gates would have been within his rights to have attacked Officer Crowley. I can only hope that "judge" Joe has someone break into his home and no one comes to his aid. It would serve him right! What good are policeman if they are entirely hog tied?! I was more incensed by this interview last night than I was over the entire sordid mess! We need to move forward not continue to trip backward!


scott   July 31st, 2009 3:56 am ET

give me a break when are people gonna get over so called racism like this.If it was just a everyday person and not Gates it we wouldnt hear about it.Now what if it was a black cop arresting a white man like that you wouldnt hear anything about it like this.Racism is so overrated these days like in sports some stupid tell me how there is cause most of the best atheletes are black atheletes.Im not racist at all people are people in my eyes and thats it so I dont get how this kind of thinking is still around.Plus dont we have better things to worry about in our country than stories like this.We have alot bigger problems than this the media is getting so out of hand making americans make other americans look bad isnt there something wrong with that.


scott   July 31st, 2009 4:03 am ET

You know this is the first time ive heard Al Sharpton talk and hes actually sounds REALLY racist sounds like hes racially profiling white people in a way.


LaWanda Britt   July 31st, 2009 4:19 am ET

My name is Marvin Britt.

On July 10, 2009, I was walking with my friends (Ariel Carter, Ashley Comer, and Ariel’s friend Daunte Turner Vernon) back to the car after spending time in downtown Newport , Rhode Island . I was singled out and harassed by Officer Patrick Walsh, for supposedly moving a construction barrel in the middle of Washington Square . I informed Officer Walsh that I was not the one who moved the construction barrel. It was moved by Daunte Turner Vernon, and Officer Walsh even witnessed Daunte moving the barrel back. I said to the Officer “The barrel has been moved back.” The officer ignored this and asked me for my identification. I expressed to Officer Walsh that I would not give him my identification if he could not explain to me why it was necessary for him to have it – the officer never requested ID from anyone but me. While expressing my concerns to Officer Walsh, he grabbed me and pushed me forward. He tried to do it again, but my friend
Ariel Carter jumped between me and the officer to explain to him there was no reason for him to use excessive force if all he wanted was my identification.

He once again ignored what was said and grabbed Ariel by the arm and threw her to the ground. Officer Walsh then demanded that I give him my identification and, once I presented it to him, he began to pepper spray me PROFUSELY for no logical reason I could think of. He then proceeded to arrest me. He never informed me that I was being placed under arrest nor did he inform me of the crime I supposedly committed. My rights were not read to me. After being harassed and profusely pepper sprayed, he aggressively put the handcuffs on me as tight as he possibly could. He then forcefully pushed me into his patrol car and shouted, “Get in the damn car!”, as if I could distinguish anything in front of me after being pepper sprayed in my face and while my hands were handcuffed behind my back. While shouting, Officer Walsh smacked and shoved my head into the car. Due to the aggressiveness used while placing the handcuffs on me and the tightness of the
cuffs, I now bare scars on my arms and my right index finger has little or no feeling. Once we arrived at the station I asked how long I would be there, and was informed an hour and a half. I was forced to spend the night in jail due to the fact that I was from out of town, according to officials at the station. Also, Officer Walsh sprayed me so badly that my eyes, face, neck, back and arms were burning like fire for about 40 minutes. The police officers never even asked if I was okay.

I have never been arrested before nor do I have a criminal record. I am a humble African American college student aspiring to be a future entrepreneur. My mother worked very hard for twenty years to protect me from this type of harassment. I have been taught to respect the law enforcement officials and obey the law. For me to be exposed to such an horrific experience and to have to deal with this type of harassment from a police officer for no apparent reason has been a traumatic and demoralizing experience. Yet another case of racial profiling on the basis of me being an African American male in a white town shows how far we still have to go as a nation to stop all the racial stereotypes and bias against one another and to treat everyone equally. In my eyes I feel as if my friends and I were white and moved that barrel, Officer Walsh would have just told us to move the barrel back with no further discussion. But that was not the case on the night
of July 10, 2009. I deserve an apology from Officer Walsh for pepper spraying me and for the unlawful way he treated me and my friends on that dreadful night. The sting of this experience will stay with me forever. I did not break any laws, nor was I disrespectful to Officer Walsh at any time. I humbly request that the charges be dropped by the police department.

Respectfully,

Marvin Britt


joe   July 31st, 2009 9:30 am ET

Will the American People finally get a backbone and demand Mr. Obama act like a President – I believe all law enforcement officials, the national guard, EMS, fire man, and ANY person that puts their life on the line for this country should demand an apology from Mr. Obama – the man has no experience and loves to point fingers of blame (the character of someone that is totally incompetent and likes to point to other so he can hide behind the guise of knowing better!)

Slowly Mr. Obama is tearing this country apart and proving he is working for one class (with his leader Pelosi). He works for ALL Americans and I believe that every single law enforcement official should go on strike until Mr. Obama publicly states; "he was wrong and he acted stupidly".

Obama is proving he must be stopped – he has proven himself as a socialist and now as a President for one and only one class of people.

Americans, I implore you to demand he apologize and not over a "beer" in a private meeting in the White House, which is not a frat house Mr. Obama!

CHANGE THE BALANCE OF POWER THIS COMING ELECTION AND STOP THE DEMOCRATS FROM BULLYING AMERICA BECAUSE THEY CONTROL BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE!


orealis carrasco   July 31st, 2009 2:30 pm ET

i think he should go to jeil


Sonia Vivar   July 31st, 2009 2:34 pm ET

Neither is faultless, the cop out to prove a point, or the little man with an attitude. My point, as a minority (Hispanic) is that among my fellow African Americans, the race card is to loosely dropped, it's like act now and ask questions later, the truth is irrelevant , and as the media scrambles to find dirt on the current HOT issue, racism and profiling enters the picture. Whether right or wrong, the race card now becomes the story, the catalyst for those ill informed to exercise their aggression on anyone. It’s not the fact that the race card is dragged into the lives of those of us who read/live among the African American community, or the fact that every time RACE is a hot issue, tension and minor scuffles occur among poor
Neighborhoods. What bothers me the most is that my African-American neighbors aren’t angry about what happened, they’re just angry. If a brother goes free, even tho he’s guilty, in my neck of the woods you can hear, horns blasting and yelling, in celebration not for justice but for an ill concept that they won...as we saw in the OJ case.

svivar9087


patricia a lewis   July 31st, 2009 3:40 pm ET

Larry, I have 2 questions. Would the reporter have asked Bush that question? Does Larry Elder know that he is Black?


patricia a lewis   July 31st, 2009 3:45 pm ET

Sgt. Crowley should apologize to the 911 caller for falsifying a police report and causing her to be called a racist.


Whitney Guilford   July 31st, 2009 4:39 pm ET

The simple problem is that there is not a system of checks and balances at the local level of government. Compare the amount of times police abuse power with the amount of times power abused at the senatorial, congressional, gubernatorial, and presidential levels.
Also a separation of powers would reduce police abuse of power in that officers would not have to be the executor and the judge when responding to disturbances. OUr founding fathers believed that one entity who does the judging and the executing is the perfect plan for a corrupt government. Why is it not the same for local government?


amb   July 31st, 2009 4:41 pm ET

President Obama certainly wasn't right (he said he didn't have all the details)with his assessment of the arrest and wasn't right in saying the "police acted stupidly." His answer stirred up too many ill feelings concerning race and I feel he should have apologized to the Cambridge police. The President was elected not just by the African American community and therefore should not "stick up" for his race solely, but should treat every equally. Just because the Prof is a friend, he should not be given preferential treatment with a special comment.


Susan   July 31st, 2009 5:21 pm ET

President Obama can claim to not be racist, but he is, because of where he was raised...Hawaii. Hawaii is probably THE single most racist of states, and I feel qualified, having lived here for a number of years. He went to a good private school, but he was "papolo" (black) Papaolo's and haoles (whites) are treated with equal hatred & disdain. You are not "local"...you are viewed, and treated with caution, discrimination, and sometimes violence. It's Hawaii's "dirty little secret", and you won't see it on the "Travel Channel". It impacts you. Very few Hawaiians left there BTW, place is a diluted blend of many ethnicities, mostly Asian. I don't eat rice anymore...

Obama himself, left there when he went to college, and never went back, aside from a vacation or when his grandmother died. He says "I'm from Chicago". Good on him! But he should have steered clear of this thing.


larry silvers   July 31st, 2009 10:32 pm ET

i live in a fairly small town and know most all of the local law enforcement/have a son-in-law that is in law enforcement so i know that they have to make quick and decesive decesions in these type of situations. they are highly trained individuals in their field and they also must take control of the situation at hand (no matter what it is) to protect the public and themselves. a lot of these folks have laid down their lives by hesitating to go with their first instincts son in conclusion i am certain that the policeman did the right thing to protect the public and himself. until you are put in his shoes please respect him for the job that he does and his life that he lays out there everyday that he is working.


stormylady   August 1st, 2009 1:33 am ET

Larry Elder, if you noticed is always angry. He is in the wrong skin or maybe he just hates himself. He usually has this frown and his eyes appear evil. There are a lot of these guys running around spewing hate on t.v. and they always get their 5 minutes. There are so many intelligent, respectful, individuals out there, but never get a chance like that angry black man, Elder. What a loser. Let's all pray for peace and the safety of the ENTIRE Obama family. We can never forget McCain and Palin's crowds that shouted "kill him", There is a 24 hour hate machine against this one. Every word is critiqued and this one is on a report card system every 100 days? Never had that before. At least, not the last president.. You ever tjhink maybe since he inherited the worse administration, bashed for no reasons, as always, maybe the President wished it was a two-year term? Sometimes I feel his time is too valuable for these backward, primitive people, not all, but there are ebough sick, ignorant ones to cause problems.. Why didn't Larry Elder run for president, no guts, jealous, envy, loser.


dorothy   August 1st, 2009 1:40 am ET

I think Mr. Gates was right. And Mr. Crowley was very wrong he got upset cos Mr. Gates was yelling at him. So what to show who's in charge by arresting him. I bet he said to himself I am the one wearing the badge. And why would he Mr. Crowley write in his police report that 2- black mens where breaking in a home.That say's much bout him telling the truth. I notice that they don't say much about that I wonder why. And who are Mr.Mccotter want Mr. President Obama to apologises. really need to worry about all the racist cops we have here in Michigan cos aday their racial, racism going to catch up with them.I no cos I am a mother of a young male, and my son been racial profile so many time. No Mr. President do not apologize. Have anyone one ever apologize's for our grandparents and parents for beening slaves. No cos us blacks get nothing. Asians come here and live tax free for so many years, Indians get a check once a month, and Afican American can't get apology.


Susan   August 1st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

To Mia,

Agreed. Racism IS alive and well in this country, and blacks are not the only persons who experience it. IStop playing the "victim/race" card. If it's really that intolerable in the USA, I suggest you save up, & move out of it.


roberto   August 2nd, 2009 8:09 pm ET

Mr King..saw Prof. Gates on TV today /8/2/ from Martha's Vineyard..he said his life has been threatened many times, Harvard U has recommended that he move.. I feel badly @ this..just leave him alone...& the rest of the people involved...am not tking sides,perhaps both made mistakes..Anyone who has never made a mistake is either dead or not doing anything ....


MANJIRI KHANOLKAR   August 3rd, 2009 1:53 am ET

RESPECTED LARRY, I WILL MAKE IT SHORT. I AM MANJIRI KHANOLKAR, A SINGLE MOM WITH MY 11 YRS YOUNG DAUGHTER LIVING IN MUMBAI, INDIA.
MY DAUGHTER IS AMERICAN CITIZEN. HER PASSPORT IS EXPIRED IN MAY AND I HAVE APPLIED FOR ITS RENEWAL. I HAVE SUBMITTED ALL THE REQUIRED PAPERS TO AMERICAN CONSULATE IN MUMBAI(DIVORCE JUDGEMENT, DECREE, TERMS SETTLEMENT, AFFIDAVITE). BUT SOME ADVOCATE IN WASHINGTON D.C. IS NOT CONVINCED AND IS DENING MY DAUGHTER'S PASSPORT. FIVE YEARS AGO I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, BUT THEN I GAVE A SIMPLE HAND-WRITTEN LETTER TO AMERICAN CONSULATE AND IT WAS ALL O.K.
BUT THIS TIME EVEN WITH ALL THESE PAPERS, THIS WO/MAN IN D.C. IS JUST HARASSING US SAYING THAT S/HE IS NOT CONVINCED THAT I HAVE MY DAUGHTER'S CUSTODY. WELL I AM CONVINCED THAT THIS WO/MAN IS WHITE AND IS HIGHLY CORRUPT. I HAVE EMAILED MR. PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT THIS BUT NO RESPONSE, MAY BE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT WHITE AND NOT BLACK EITHER. IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS OR QUESTIONS PLEASE YOU HAVE MY EMAIL....THANX manjiri


Susan   August 4th, 2009 8:28 pm ET

Manjiri,

You didn't make it short, & there is no reason to yell (CAPS). You assume that the person in DC is white...therefore, you are a racist. If you live outside of the USA, and your daughter lives with you, that is your choice. Please don't seek the benefits of of a USA citizenship. Any man can get any woman pregnant, and that's on you also.


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