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July 21, 2009

Larry King Live Discussion Thread

Posted: 08:04 PM ET

 

1tv.larrycustomTonight on Larry King Live...

Reaction to Joe Jackson's explosive allegations about son Michael's death.  His confusion over where Michael's body is, and his defense of his parenting skills.

 Plus,

Sarah Palin's new ethics problems.  How much trouble is she in now?  And what about President Obama's health care push, is this a flashback to the 1994 Hillary Clinton health care debacle?

Then,

The newest developments in the shocking killing of the florida couple with all those adopted children.  Where they murders for hire?

And in our Impact Your World segment, we'll talk with Willie Nelson.  He's impacting his world, and this year's Farm Aid concert line-up has just been announced.  We'll hear who will be on stage with Willie. 

A jam packed hour, tonight, on Larry King Live!

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Gale   July 21st, 2009 8:18 pm ET

I dont get Joe not knowen anything about his son where he is never saw him ....... and why he is not showing tears for his son and family?? di=ont he care about anything oF Michael Joe acts like his son is not gone at all this is how I feel


Martina Ilstad   July 21st, 2009 8:23 pm ET

Hey Larry King
Its my first time,i blog with you.I like your show,because,you give people the time,they need, to tell their real storrys You never disturb them.
But i thing the last interview with Michal Jackson father,was a real challenge for you, not disturb him.To tell, that his son is a liar,and lett him talk,and telling to you "listen"maked me more worry about this "father?!" All my respect parience!


Jacquelyn   July 21st, 2009 8:32 pm ET

Gale

Why do Joe have to show emotions to you or to the public? Did you have Michael's back when the media and some of the public was bashing him and calling him names?

Joe have nothing to prove to anyone.


Karissa   July 21st, 2009 8:32 pm ET

Thanks for the wonderful michael jackson coverage!!! And about Joe Jackson...I do think he was hesitant to answer some questions (mainly about the 3 children) because he was probably aware of what ppl were sayin about him...but i dont know the guy so i cant judge...


Gina   July 21st, 2009 8:34 pm ET

Mr. Jackson and society needs to realize this; there is a poor couple in America who did have their child grabbed from the elementary school they were attending because the mother argued with the school prinicipal over resource classes. Does he understand the difference; he disciplined his kids with a belt and did not lose his children nor did anybody even call CPS; but yet a mother argues with the school prinicipal and the whole family begins a CPS nightmare. Does he realize Michael could have been given to a foster family? Does he realize his children could have been adopted? Does society realize the difference? Does society besides Mr. Jackson understand the difference? A couple in Americe has also lost their newborn baby at birth and not because of drugs or alcohol. Does society see how a family could still be together no matter what they went through?


michelle marshall   July 21st, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Also, leave Joe Jackson alone. at least he raised all of his children. Unlike Debbie Rowe who sold hers. She has teh gall to speak about Joe Jackson. Most children do not like to be disciplined, thats why its effective. If he got spankings from his father or mother, then its a measure of parental control. If more parents currently utilized a more serious direction in parenting perhaps teens would be much better off.


Gina   July 21st, 2009 8:37 pm ET

I think Mr. Jackson could use this time in the limelight to focus on families and the need to keep families together and even though parents do make mistakes; keeping biological families together.


Demomdre   July 21st, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Men from that generation were trained not to show grief and nver to cry in public. They were taught they had to be strong for the family. He actually told Larry that he was taking it hard but he tries not to show it.

I am sure he knows where Michael's body is but they are a private family and he's not going tell the world. When he or any of the Jacksons don't want to tell you something they always say they don't know. Good on him for keeping the info away from the tabloids.

As for as not viewing his body, many people do not like seeing their loved one in a coffin. There's nothing strange or unusal about.


Brandy   July 21st, 2009 8:45 pm ET

Joe and Jermaine both claim to not know where MJ's body is-how can that be?


Roxanne, N.C.   July 21st, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Joe Jackson is not confused about where Michael is buried or where his body is located. He knows; he just doesn't want to tell the media, with reason. He could simply say, "None of your business" or "I'm not going to say," but the harrassment would continue. Miko Brando does the same thing when he doesn't want to answer a question...he simply says "I don't know," and the issue is not pursued. However, it's kind of hard for a father to get away with that same answer. Joe, just tell them to respect Michael's privacy.


Gale   July 21st, 2009 8:47 pm ET

well joe was noyt there for his son and he is not right now...... he didnt say or help him when he had to go to court I wish I knew Michael I would have stood b hinde him 100% he was and is a very sweet man he did no wrong to anyone and right now people are still makeing rude comments about Mike godddddddddddd


Belgium   July 21st, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Hey Larry,

I don't know if you remember this intervieuw where Michael says:"I had to vomit when my father entered the room."?

Doesn't that explain everthing about the guy?


RJ   July 21st, 2009 8:53 pm ET

The notion that only rich people work hard is ridiculas! I know of no rich person who works harder than me! Yet they the rich are crying foul with the possibility of paying more taxes! First of all the rich have been soaking the middle class since Reagan the de-regulator was in office! No real change will come to this country until the tax code is changed in favor of the middle class or at least even keel with the rich! Only people who make a lot of money can write off everything and virtually pay no tax once its all said and done! Its time the rich ante up. The notion that it will only cause the rich to clamp down and not produce jobs is also ridiculas because they are already doing it and have been doing it since Obama was elected. The rich are every bit as much to blame for the economic downturn.


Lindsey   July 21st, 2009 8:59 pm ET

missing you michael jackson


michele canada   July 21st, 2009 9:02 pm ET

LARRY

ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID???????? OF COARSE JOE KNOWS WHERE MICHAEL'S BODY IS....YOU LOOK LIKE THE STUPID ONE NOT JOE...THE JOKES ON YOU


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:04 pm ET

Wondering why Joe Jackson is in denial about the abuse he dealt his children? Physical abuse happened, several of his children have voiced their own recollection. I am the same age that Michael Jackson was, and that was how our parents disciplined us. Thank goodness the practice is no longer deemed acceptable.


Holly Ruth Rasmussen   July 21st, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Hi Larry...

I just wanted to thank you so much for the great coverage your caring and thoughtful of Michaels famliy and Friends.. They need you Larry... Joe and jermaine and Mikko.... you've let them speek out and have really been an awesome source of support your service is really has a powerful affect.
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You get to the point and let them air the stuff that is so painful to talk about.

The Pepsi video was really hard to watch... Joe has amazing strength.. thank god he has good people like you whom he can put all his trust in.

Your awesome Larry Hug Jermaine for me.


Audrey   July 21st, 2009 9:06 pm ET

I wish the press would let Sarah Palin go quietly into the night. The lady is a joke and all she smiles about now is all the money she will be making thanks to the press and McCain putting her out there. She is laughing all the way to the bank.


Tia Stover   July 21st, 2009 9:06 pm ET

What is funny is that Palin bashed Obama for being a community activist and she just step down to do just that. Things that make you go hmmmm.


Carmella   July 21st, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Palin resign because she wanted to end of story.


michele canada   July 21st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

LARRY APOLOGIZE TO JOE PUBLICLY FOR THE WAY YOU TREATED HIM LAST NIGHT


Mary Mtl   July 21st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Is liz Cheney really stupid enough to think that peoples really care of Sarah P. Sarah P. needs 6 years 5 colleges to end her scholarship for 'journalism' please tell Liz to think about it...


Eileen Curras widow to Hernández (WWII)   July 21st, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Unfortunately Mr. King show respected Mr. Jackson space. Mr. Jackson has to destroy every accusation his own son said and now is too late.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

I think if Joe Jackson had spent as much time, money and effort on his *son*, Michael while he was alive that he spends on making a name for *himself* we might not be here talking about Michael's death.

A little nurturing goes a long way.


Rita Carroll   July 21st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

Why do Republican representatives continue to undermine the intelligence of society by insisting that Palin is being discriminated against because she is a woman? There are many women in politics held to a high level that she simply cannot acheive!


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:09 pm ET

LMAO Mary Mtl. Apparently yes.


Mary Hernandez   July 21st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Why the big deal as to whether or not MJ's children are bioliogically his or not? He raised them from birth. That's proof enough that they were his children. How would you like your fatherhood questioned if you die? People could say you were too old to father your children. Maybe yes, maybe no, you've raised them and you love them that's what counts.


Mary   July 21st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Ask Liz Cheney about the political prosecutions by the Bush era Republican operatives destroying the lives of Don Siegelman and Paul Minor by people who were friends of Karl Rove. These are wrongs that have still not been righted since Liz is whining about poor Sarah Palin being victimized by "attacks" by political "opponents".


Wendy   July 21st, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to get her facts straight. I am Canadian & did CHOOSE my Doctor. I get excellent care. If she wants to bash our system maybe she should take the time to learn something first.
I don't know why she is on your show Larry, she has nothing of value to say.


Allen, Texas   July 21st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Larry, as a Democrat, whoever is filing these ethical charges need to stop it. Sarah Palin needs to go do whatever she wants to do. She's never going to be the President or the Vice President of this country. For Democrats, it demonstrates the lack of intellectual leadership of the GOP. If the Republicans wants to keep her in the spotlight, more power to them. I don't think the American people will elect a Bush – light in skirt. After the last eight years, if they do, that tells me that our educational system has really gone to the dogs.


ella   July 21st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

I am canadian and...I choose my own doctor and my doctor and I choose what treatment I get – Not the government like Liz Cheney stated, she should be so lucky to get health care in Canada


Sonja   July 21st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Sarah Palin is not a very bright person. She is a good speaker and she can get people that do not follow the news or keep up with what's going on in the world energized. If she is all the Republicans have left than they Republican party is truly finished.


carl   July 21st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Palin is just interested in making money. We would not want her as a president. SHE MAY QUIT HALF WAY THRU.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:11 pm ET

Wendy, she's starting to make the network rounds to become a Pres candidate in 2012. Oh heavens help US.


Kim from Toronto   July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Just to let you know...Canadians CAN and DO choose their own doctors! Don't listen to mis information...


Michelle   July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

The comment about Canadian Health Care is completely FALSE! The government DOES NOT pick our Doctors nor who gets what type of treatment. Another American right wing idea of our Health Care System that is completely false!


GORDON GIESBRECHT   July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Larry:
Please correct your guests. I am a Canadian and our government NEVER tells us who our doctor is and they NEVER tell us what kind of treatment we receive. We pick our doctors ourselves. We do have waiting lists based on shortages of doctors, not government meddling personally in our affairs.
Dr. Gordon Giesbrecht


Susan W   July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

Liz Cheney : Nobody like Sara Palin, not because she's a woman, it's because she's ignorant. Hillary Clinton is a woman. She's intelligent, and knows what's going on in the world. She's educated. Nothing to do with being a woman. Many Republicans are not pleased with Sara Palin. Please be honest with the public.
Signed- a woman


RickfromDetroit   July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

The rich can't afford more taxes. An individual making $2 million a year and paying 50% taxes has $1 million left after taxes. Divide the $1million by 365 days and these poor people only have $2739.00 a day to live on. I feel sorry for them!


marie   July 21st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I am a Canadian. No one–in government or otherwise has EVER told me or directed me to a certain doctor. I chooose my GP and my specialist. People like Liz Cheny and so many others ought to at least make there fear mongering lies about Canadian health care somewhat believable.
We get care-at the place of our choice-we get timely care esp in emergency illness or critical illness like cancer/heart attack
If we have to wait it's cuz a more life threatening case trumps elective surgery
ONLY THE RICH TRAVEL TO THE U.S. FOR MEDICAL CARE.
you people have it all wrong


Colin   July 21st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Larry please inform your guest Ms. Cheney that in the Canadian Medicare program the government does not choose your doctor for you. As a Canadian I'm in a good position to confirm this for her. Where did she get this mis-information?


Suzette   July 21st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Hi Larry

In Canada, we do choose our own Doctors, contrary to what Liz Cheyney said.


Aaegie, Toronto, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

Liz Channey should speak to the fact, in Canada you get to choose your Doctor and it's free.


Gayle   July 21st, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I live in Toronto, Canada. Tell Liz Cheney that she's absolutely wrong about health care coverage in Canada. I DO choose my doctors and have MORE leverage over the doctors I can choose to see than does my mother who lives in Florida and is restricted by the rules of her PPO. By the way, I got an MRI last summer two days after it was requisitioned by my doctor. The ads running on TV are nonsense.


carl   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

PRESIDENT OBAMA is doing a great job. Would you not say he is still in the process of cleaning up the mess BUSH got us into.

It will take some time to clean up what BUSH has done to our country.


Haley   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

I want to correct Ms. Cheney in her belief that Canadians don't get to choose their own doctors. That is completely untrue, and as a Canadian, I would like to see those who incorrectly slight our health care system get their facts straight. Canadians get to choose their own doctors.


david smith   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

HI Larry I am a Canadian and I can see any doctor I want the goverment does not tell me who to see. also get any treatment I need.

Thanks from a Canadian


Daisy Heisler   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

I am a Canadian. We can choose our own physicians. Cheney is wrong.


Gord Menzies   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Larry
My Daughter Cara , is alive today thanks to the Canadian Healthcare System. I could not afford the treatments in the U.S.A.


ann swallow   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

I am a Canadian and the government does not choose our doctors or procedures.This lady should get her facts straight.


Larry Buford   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Waterloo, Watergate! What's this facination Republicans have with troubling the waters?

Larry
Los Angeles


Elizabeth Plett   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Liz's comment moments ago about Canadians not being able to choose their doctors is erroneous and misleading. I have always been able to decide which medical doctor I wanted to see.


Pam   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Healthcare didn't get broken overnight and the "right" fix won't happen overnight. It's not about Obama getting credit for fixing the system. It's about designing a new system that is well thought out and will work! The Democrats are being irresponsible.


genevieve   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

It is NOT true that in the UK national health service you cannot choose your doctor. Where do these falsehoods come from? I have lived there as an American for 23 years and have had excellent and free health care. But it can depend on where you live....


mzrose   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Healthcare Reform...how many members in the Senate are without healthcare....right, none.
its the reason healthcare will never pass.


Tauqir Fillebeen   July 21st, 2009 9:14 pm ET

Does Liz Cheney live on the same planet I live on?
Health care sucks as it is. We do have a choice to choose a doctor but only by paying extra therefore we really don't have a choice. Liz Cheney may have choices but an average Americam does not have same choices as she has.


mark durkin   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Where do you people in the usa get your MISINFORMATION RE;CANADIAN HEALTHCARE....I can go to any doctor I want,the govt DOES NOT determine who your doctor is.Quit lying to the american public


Tim   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Will the President and Congress be enrolled in the new proposed healthcare sytem? And if not why?


Deborah Hobson   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

It makes me crazy to hear the American ignorance about the Canadian health care system. I grew up in NYC and moved to Canada some 40 years ago. I can tell you from personal experience that the Canadian health care system is fabulous. It is not true, as Liz Cheney just said on your show, that in the Canadian system you can't choose your doctor. I have had outstanding family doctors of my own choice in three different Canadianc cities I have lived in (Toronto, Halifax,and now Vancouver). Sure it is true that Canadians sometimes go over the border to get particular procedures– but these are usually reimbursed by the provincial health care service. What Americans don't understand is that the culture of Canada is different: Canadians believe that everyone is entitled to decent health care, and they're willing to pay for it in their taxes. It isn't free– it's paid for by taxpayers. I've never heard anyone complain about their tax dollars going to support an outstanding medical system which is equally available to every Canadian regardless of circumstances.


k kummen   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

90% americans don't know what they are talking about of our health system –I picked my doctor -if i don't like him i can get another one the next day. In such health issues ex earache etc. i can get in the same day. Emergencies get in the hospital right away –Americans better start doing their homework ITS working for us and the british and no one is loosing their homes.
Do your homework ...............


Eric Beaulieu   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Hi Larry, I just wanted to clarify a comment made Liz Cheney about Canadian health care. I live in Canada and must let her know the truth about the Canadian system. I and every other Canadian haver the right to choose who they want as their family doctor.
The government does not decide for me,

Eric Beaulieu
British Columbia


Jackie C   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Larry,
If the Republicans don't like what Obama is doing then come up with a workable solution. Republicans were creative enough to put us in this mess, be creative enough to find solutions that will work for us all. After all, we are all paying for their past mistakes...any takers?


Natalie Pavlenko   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

I'd like to correct Liz Cheney – she is incorrect to say that Canadians do not have a choice in doctors. Canadians can choose their own doctor.


Elle Macintosh   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Larry,
Liz Cheney is totally misinformed about Canadian Health Care ... we absolutely get to chose our Doctors. Personally I just went through colon cancer, surgery, and chemo therapy... I was able to decline or accept the procedures and Doctors that were made available to me. By the way my medical is $50.00 a month and throughout my treatment including surgery, hospital care and cancer treatments I had no other bill. What more can Americans want. My waiting time from diagnosis to surgery was 4 weeks 2 days, and my chemo began, less than a month after surgery.

I'm appalled by Ms. Cheney's knowledge of both international and foreign issues especially related to Sarah Palin... dear me!
L. Macintosh


Jeanette   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Please tell Liz Cheney to check her facts. Canadians choose their own doctors – what is she talking about??????? I am so tired of Americans criticising a system that they have absolutely no idea about. Before you guys condemn us, CHECK THE FACTS!


rich   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Why is Lizzie cheney getting air time on cnn larry????????? She is an expert in nothing and you and all the other media give her a voice when she is not qualified!! I am dumb founded as to why this is happening.
She is only talking on behalf of her father's failed policies along with Bush! The lowest approval rating of any president and vice president in US history!! Unbelievable!!! Liz should stay home and to home econmonics!!

rich


Mike Shute   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Larry

We are tired of hearing from people like Ms. Cheney misrepresenting the Canadian Health Care system. We choose our own doctors. Between us we have over 100 years experience with system and we have never known or heard of anyone dying waiting for medical attention. And we can afford it. We believe of anyone is denied health care, everyone is in danger.

Mike and Joyce


Mary   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

Liz Cheney, glad you and your Halliburton money can afford your own health care, but please stop interrupting people, take your Republican hatefulness and consider the rest of the world's health situation - people go bankrupt when they have an injury or are suddenly struck with cancer. Does Liz Cheney care? No, her daddy has Halliburton money paying for her health care.


Erin   July 21st, 2009 9:15 pm ET

The lady on who is speaking for the Republican Party is stating that women are sexist against Sarah Palin because she is pro-life has it wrong. I don't like her because she is not very bright. It has nothing to do with her being pro-life. I myself could not have an abortion and have raised a mentally and physically disabled child who is 26 years old now. I believe in life but I don't believe in someone with her lack of intelligence. "I can see Russia from my house!" and not knowing her teen-aged daughter was sexually active....come on Ms. Palin! We women know when someone has been having sex.. My mother knew the very day I'd become sexually active. It's something we women know. With respect to abortion I believe it is a woman's right to make the choice what to do with her body even if I could not do it!


Marilyn Young   July 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Hi, Larry...just watching the debate regarding healthcare. As Canadians, my husband and I are looking at each other in dismay wondering where in the world someone got the information that doctors are chosen for us. We are early retirees and never in our lives have we been appointed doctors! We go to whom we please and never have had an unreasonable wait for care.


Jean   July 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

I just wanted to respond to the lady's comment about Canada's health care system. I live in Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada . I have my choice of doctors. I do not know where she is specifically referring to. Like your show, Larry!


Sharlene Woods   July 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Correction – Canadians DO get to decide who their Doctor is!

Sharlene in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Eric   July 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Liz helped engineer the war plans to invade Iraq. It's interesting that she is opining on the Obama administration and the state of our nation. She says she cares about what will hurt the American people after her and her daddy's war has cost the USA close to $667 trillion. I can't believe Carville is not calling her on this.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:16 pm ET

It's great to spew facts and figures.... ROFLMAO

Liz just told James that was a bad thing?? Cracking up laughing. I guess that is a bad thing for people to tell the truth.


Sharonlee   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I am a proud Canadain, and where in the world do you people get this info that we can't pick our own doctors. I can see any doctor I want, providing their patient list isn't full. As well I've see reports that we have hours wait in emergency rooms, which is also not true. I took my son to the emergency room the day before yesterday was in and out in one hour and 10 mins. My son had a significant concussion in case you were wondering. Our health care system is far better, at least we are able to see a doctor when we want and not worry about going bankrupt for serious illness. Our only problem is shortage of doctors because of greed over the hippocratic oath they've all gone to the United States.


Debbie   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

As an criminal investigator many years ago, I have found that parents who abuse their kids rarely admit that they physically, emotionally, mentally and sexuality abused them. Even child molesters will profused that they loved their victims and their victims loved them. Abusers will often say they did nothing wrong and in Joe Jackon's case, "I made no mistakes." He was probably raised that way and therefore sees nothing wrong with beating on his kids because to him was a normal way of dealing with kids.
My question is did he also abuse his wife? Those who beat on the kids will often beat on their wife. No doubt, everyone in the family was willing to look the other way in regards to the abuses. No one wants the family to be broken up and regardless what happens most members in the family will be silent until they are adults.
Don't forget back in those days physical abuse, sexual abuse and domestic violence were taboo to speak about and to report to the police. I have found in responding to similar calls that everyone in the family including the in-laws would lied to protect the abusing parent–the bread winner.
No surprise here that Joe Jackson denied it. The problem is that you haven't had any experts on your program that would bring all of this into the light. Wives and kids are still silent in regards to family abuse. So the cycle of violence will continue into the next generations. And that is sad!


Deborah   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I would like Liz Cheney to clarify what she is talking about when she says Canadians cannot even pick their own doctor so therefore does not want health reform to go the way of Canada. She is totally uninformed. I have picked my own family doctor, have been able to choose my own orthopedic surgeon, have chosen my own rheumatologist – all either of my own choice or from people who have made a recommendation to me. what is she talking about!!!!!


JULIA   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Ms. Cheney has no idea what she is talking about. I am writing from CANADA where I was born and raised and where I got to choose my own doctor, and I got to choose my own clinic, I get to choose which hospital I go to, and I can even choose which specialist I want to see. And as for my "government decides who gets what treatments"? Yes, technically, in the ER of every hospital, patients are dealt with in a triage system, where those with the most sever injuries take priority over less urgent cases.

Americans need to WAKE UP and see that YOUR health care system is the broken one – and a system similar to ours actually works. I could never live in a country where my government would rather spend money killing "enemies" on the other side of the globe, than look after the health and well being of it's own citizens


stas   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Why are the people on the right always comparing the proposed heathcare change with the UK and Canada? Compare with the other rich countries, ALL the other rich countries (Scandinavic countries, Japan, Belgium, Netherlands etc), where it does work. I agree we do not want the system of Canada and the UK, but jee, we can compare to what is working for decades. Do we want change or what??!


MaddiesMom   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I think Liz Cheney needs to learn a little more history on the Cdn. health care system before she speaks again. Being a Canadian I have never been told by anyone which doctor I can see and neither has any of my relatives who live in England. I often wonder what the anti universal health care people are sooo afraid of???


Mothernature   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Did Joe know that Jessie & Al helped kill Martin Luther King and now the King of Pop! Cant wait to see what role Palin will play in this. Sit back and watch the show!

Mothernature


Fred   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

It's single-payer stupid!


sharon   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

liz cheney does not know what she is talking about. Canadians can choose which ever doctor they want and they can change doctors as often as they want. Please set her straight on this


merrell   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Liz is spreading rumors. As a Canadian I do get to choose my doctor. She also does not have the manners to let someone else speak. Drop her from your show. Get someone with manners who does not use falsehoods to spread fear.


Lea   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

WHY is this rude woman being allowed to interrupt and dominate this conversation. This show is out-of-control. Why can't there be some engagement rules upfront before this show starts. This kind of non-conversation is unappealing and does not inform. Please allow Carville to get his points across. Thanks


L.A. Gal   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Is there a script the republican party hand out. JCarville said it well Sarah Palin is at the top 10 of their intellectual candidate. This is comedy and not sexist!


marie   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

I have a question for any Anerican to please answer.
Are all of your Republicans like Palin and Liz /Dick Cheney?
They talk like the National Enquirer
How can they really believe some of what they say? I seriously don't get it.


Brenda   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Liz Cheney's comment that Canadians cannot choose their own doctor is completely false. We are allowed to choose our own doctors and our referrals to specialists. Get your fact straight Liz.


Diane from Ocala FL   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Some tell Ms. Cheney to stop spewing rumors and fiction regarding health care!!! No one wants to hear her and she has no idea what the facts are. Go to Canada and talk to the people that LOVE their health care. Yes, it is great to spew facts and figures – because that's what matters.

Ms. Cheney, if you are running for something, I hope its only a bus or a train. We've had enough Cheney's in the White House and Washington DC. We're done with your kind of political thinking!!!


guitou labou   July 21st, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Americans are misinformed srarting with ms Cheney. The Canadian health scheme is wonderful and does allow us to choose our physicians. Furthermore going to a hospital or a doctor does not cost a penny and no one needs fear to have treatment or operations which could bring enormous financial burden as it does in the States


michael   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Opponents of the president's health care reform need to stop saying that in Canada you don't get to choose your own doctor, as Liz Cheney just said. I've lived in Toronto all my 51 years and I've always chosen my GP. my specialists and same with everyone I know. In terms of waits, also anytime there is an emergency, people are seen and start treatment immediately. I don't know where Americans are getting their information from, but it's incorrect. Please come here and see how well it works. Perhaps doctors don't make as much money. but Canadians love this system and would never ket it go.


Eydie   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

I am from Canada and tired of hearing that "I cannot pick my own doctor", I can, "people die waiting for care", not true and all the other degrading comments about my countries healthcare. I have just had bilateral knee replacements and shutter to think what I would have lost had I been living in the States and needed this pre-care, surgery and post-care. I might have new knees, but I wouldn't have a home. Every time I need my doctor she is there, every time I need tests or bloodwork, I can get it, I can go to a specialist whenever I ask my doctor....all for free – oh and it doesn't matter if I have "a pre-existing condition....still covered.
Stop degrading my country.

Eydie in Hamilton Ontario Canada


RickfromDetroit   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

If we can't agree on a tax for health care, then let's increase the Social Security payroll tax and look into a sales tax. Then everyone pays. We all need health care, lets all pay.


Kevin kearney   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Unless u address tort reform; you cannot lower the cost of health care!
Money is NOT being made by the doctors, it' the lawyers and insurance companies!


Robyn   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Ms. Cheney is a liar! Canadian as I am (born and raised) I have never had anyone tell me who my Doctor should be! do your homework lady.


Kim MacFarlane   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

As a Canadian I can assure you that we DO get to choose our own doctors!


mzrose   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Larry, why is all Gop members lie with a straight face and smile a crooked smile?


Myrna Gow   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

How dare you put this Canadian woman on TV with a story about a brain tumor. How dare you NOT check your facts. This woman did NOT have a brain tumor, merely a benign cyst on the back of her neck. She was told that they would take out the cyst in 6 months, (she was not an emergency situation). We have the best medicare system in the world in Canada. The problem is that your American HMO money-makers and the pharmaceutical company money-makers are against putting a stop to the huge profits that they are making. Our problem in Canada is that we are losing too many doctors and nurses to the U.S. because these same profiteers have paid them more money than they can make in Canada. We are not perfect by any means, but we are 1000% better than the system in the U.S. where people are dying because they cannot afford to BUY insurance. For shame America. Myrna Gow.How dare you put this Canadian woman on TV with a story about a brain tumor. How dare you NOT check your facts. This woman did NOT have a brain tumor, merely a benign cyst on the back of her neck. She was told that they would take out the cyst in 6 months, (she was not an emergency situation). We have the best medicare system in the world in Canada. The problem is that your HMO money-makers and the pharmaceutical company money-makers are against putting a stop to the huge profits that they are making. Our problem in Canada is that we are losing too many doctors and nurses to the U.S. because these same profiteers have paid them more money than they can make in Canada. How dare you kill thousands of Americans who cannot afford the huge insurance costs that the system charges. HOW DARE YOU LIE TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE. Myrna Gow.


liz   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

I am a Canadian and I know I speak for all Canadian when I say we LOVE our health care. I do not know where Miss Cheney gets her facts, but we can certainly pick our doctor or any number of doctors that we may need. We get the best care possible. My mother died recently from a brain tumour. She was in the hospital for 3 months and underwent many tests and an operation. My father would have been left broke from all that care and it was excellent care. We always feel sorry for Americans and their lack of a good health care system.


Cynthea   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

Re: Health Care. As a Canadian, I can tell you...you can choose whatever doctor you would like to see. Oh...and it is "free". It is a fantastic proactive health care system and you would never even know that it was "government run". It is very frustrating to see how our health care system is being represented by certain individuals on US TV shows. The people of the US would be lucky to have a health care system like ours...and I hope for their sakes that it can be implemented inthe future.


Shelley Doumani MD   July 21st, 2009 9:18 pm ET

I am very frustrated with the continual dissemination of complete untruths about the Canadian health care system. I practiced in Canada for 25 years and here for the past 15 – No one is told who they can see in Canada – they are free to choose whatever Dr they wish and further more the government does not tell doctors how to treat patients. But this is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS HERE. Your insurance plan, if you should be lucky enough to have one, tells you who you can see and certainly tells your doctor how he can treat you. I know – I also work in managed care. WAKE UP AMERICA and stop promulgating complete lies about systems of which you clearly have no knowledge.


Alex   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

About the Obama's health care push, well, the USA is still the only industrialized country who doesn't have a public health care system. In other words you either have money or you die. That's not about left or right wing ideologies, this is about basic people's needs.


Craig Leask   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

hey Larry – enjoy your show, but need to write in – am a Canadian living in Toronto, and a few minutes ago, the blond woman panelist indicated that in Canada, you cannot chose your doctor – where is she getting this information – I have lived here since birth and have never heard of anything so ridiculous – of course you can choose your own doctor, you can also go to hospitals (any of your choice) and walk in clinics – all of which are covered by our Health system – please require your panelists to have their facts straight prior to making false statements

thanks and keep up the good work

Craig


Ginny from Ontario Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Ms. Chaney said that Canadians can not choose their doctor of choice. She needs to know that that is totally incorrect. As a Canadian who has never paid a cent for health care, I have the right to choose the doctor who treats me. Certainly, my family doctor will suggest a specialist to see, but if I wish to have a different doctor, for example choose one orthopedic specialist over another, I have that right and my wishes are granted. There are many falsehoods about the Canadian system of health care being spewed lately by US politicians and I take offense.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

People just seem to be "chomping at the bit" waiting for Pres. Obama to have a defeat in some type of way. Cheney's daughter is irritating.


Rubina   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Hi Larry,

I'm a U.S. and Canadian citizen (dual citizenship) living in Canada. I can tell you that Americans would benefit from a system similar to Canada's. Its not free a free healthcare system as people making above I believe its $25000.00 are taxed through our Federal Taxes but, its a lot cheaper than having to pay the expensive insurance premiums through indivdual or family plans. May I add that, you don't see a lot of sickly Canadians walking around hooked up to oxygen tanks with masks or navigating our streets with cruches or canes as a lot of health care issues are dealt with on a pro-active basis. Candians can walk into any clinic at any time and be seen by a doctor without an appointment and without having to come out of pocket for the visit. Much needed surgeries which costs huge sums of money and could bankrupt a person are paid for through our Healthcare system. Candians are much healthier because of the type of system we have in place. Its not perfect but its much needed and very much appreciated.

Love your show Larry.

Rubina


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

Chaney is so rude. She just bullozes over people. Maybe she should take an ettiquette class or two?


Bob   July 21st, 2009 9:19 pm ET

I have just been listening to Ms. Chaney describing Canadian Health care as being a system whereby you can't select your own doctor – WRONG! ... where the government decides what treatment you can receive – WRONG! How can someone sound so well informed, while being so very, very wrong. Seems to me that perhaps ideology causes preripheral blindness.


KANDI   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

THANKS FOR THE CONTUNUED COVERAGE OF MY DEAR MICHAEL.IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU LARRY,MAY NEVER KNOW WHAT WOULD BE GOING ON WITH HIM!!!!!


Fred   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Obama needs to worry about the economy first before the healthcare; most that don’t have healthcare is by their choice


Thomas O'Quinn   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

I am a Canadian living and working in Los Angeles. Liz Cheney doesn't know what she is talking about. You can choose any doctor you wish in Canada, including specialists. I can't believe these liars aren't called out on the misinformation they are spreading. They simply think that the rich are the only ones who "deserve" health care, and that offering health care to the poor is the equivalent of giving them "privileges" they feel they haven't earned. It's really quite sick.


Gail Becker   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

I would like to see a comparative analysis done between the "Living With Michael Jackson" documentary by Martin Bashir and Michael Jackson's unedited version, TakeTwo: The Footage You Were Not Meant To See". I, along with many others think that Mr. Bashir should be severely reprimanded for the harm that he caused to MIchael Jackson's life with the lies that he portrayed in the documentary.

Also, is there any truth to some reports that are coming out that the boys who accused Michael Jackson of child molestation are now apologizing for lying about the molestation changes?

I do appreciate your show. I am deeply saddened by Michael Jackson's death. I do believe from the depths of my heart that we have truely lost an irreplaceable gift from God, may he find comfort and peace now that he has left a world that has been so cruel to him. Love you Michael.


Peter Johann   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Lynn Cheney was wrong when she said Canadians can't choose their doctor – we can.


Dana   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Liz Cheney's information is, at best incorrect, at worst completely misrepresented - Canadians most decidely do choose our own doctors!
I just spoke with a friend - diagnosed with cancer and out of surgery all within 3 weeks - I'll take that system any day.


Monica   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Hi from Canada! I've got a comment wrt to one Liz made. Canadians can choose their own doctors! There seems to be a lot of mis-understanding about the Canadian Health Care system. I've seen the recent commercial with the woman from Waterdown. It's really unfortunate. All Canadians have access to health care – not just the ones that can afford it.


Linda   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Why on every show she is on she interputs everyone. People allow her to speech. She is forever spourtin misinformation, my second cousin is Canadian and they say their Medical Health care is fine. The Republican don't want you poor or middle class people to have anything. They are so buy trying to make the President look bad, they could care less about the regular working people. Hey Liz your father had Government run help Insurance when he was Vice President and I am sure he still has it, so why now is it not good for the people. The Congress and Senate have Government Run Health Insurance yet they don't want you to have it.


natasha frinsbie   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

who will pay for the healthcare crisis. MY ANSWER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. WITH AT LEAST 12,000,000 IN THE COUNTRY, if they should pay at least $1.00 per day for all the years they are in the country then the country will collect at least $12,000,000.00 daily. Apparently america does not have a crisis or they just fail to realize the creat impact legalizing the illegal immigrants will have on both the country and the immigrants. maybe I am just "DUMB"


Susan   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Health Care – Is Obama blowing it? God, I hope not. Because if that's all it takes for you to slam a President, then shame on you.

He wants healthcare for everyone – can you please tell me what's wrong with that?

I live in Canada and I have healthcare – I get to choose my Doctor. I don't have to go to just anyone and, believe it or not, every single living human being in my country gets healthcare....they get care when they need it....whether they can afford it or not!!!

I think this whole argument is really about people who are not going to get the money they used to get.


Debbie Brakefield   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Liz Cheney and her family have millions and no need to worry about health care costs! My 29 year old son has to cancel his health coverage because his company cannot afford to help pay for it. He earns $10 an hour and has to pay $180 a month for insurance. What a great choice for a young man! We need health care reform NOW.


tina   July 21st, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Larry,

I have come to watch your show and I usually enjoy it but tonight I am totally surprised at you....You have Liz Cheney on who has no credibilty due to her constantly backing her father...........Who care's what she says...........She backs her father who probably should be at least up in congress being deposed about the CIA. He started a WAR ON A LIE................come on..........You asked Joe Jackson the tough questions..............why not her..........She has about has much credibilitly as Joe Jackson...............


Roger C Michaud   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Larry, I have been hearing from people's comments that President Obama is going towards a Canadian and or UK system that actually select doctors and delay surgery. Larry, this is absolutely not the case. May you inject this comment somewhere so that people are not mislead by these alegations. The UK and Canadian are both very fine and solid. Everyone receives health care no matter what, rich or poor. Obviously we have to pay tax for this system but it is fairly distributed.


mark chapel   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I wish the Republicans would stop claiming that Canadians are not allowed to chose their own fmily physicians. I've lived in Canada for more than 50 years and I have NEVER been told who can or cannot be my doctor!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Eydie - it's nice to hear positive remarks about your country's healthcare system. Lord knows, the US media doesn't want to public to realize that the Canadian model could actually work for us also!


Tim   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Liz Chaney,

I'm a disabled American unable to move from Canada to the US because of the horrible medical service in the USA. I choose my own doctor. I have had over 30 surgeries.


MB   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Ask Liz Cheney about the political prosecutions by the Bush era Republican operatives destroying the lives of Don Siegelman and Paul Minor by people who were friends of Karl Rove. These are wrongs that have still not been righted since Liz is whining about poor Sarah Palin being victimized by “attacks” by political “opponents”.

Liz Cheney, glad you and your Halliburton money can afford your own health care, but please stop interrupting people, take your Republican hatefulness and consider the rest of the world’s health situation — people go bankrupt when they have an injury or are suddenly struck with cancer. Does Liz Cheney care? No, her daddy has Halliburton money paying for her health care.


Maurizio Passero   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Larry,

CANADIANS CHOOSE THEIR DOCTORS! Please correct your guests as i have heard these untrue statements too many times.

Maurizio


Wendy, Ontario, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Please tell Liz Cheney to stop talking! She is rude & James hasn't gotten a chance to respond. She needs to understand that talking more won't make her right. The last time she was on your show she did the same thing, enough of her already!


Dorothy   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Liz Cheney and her dad just need to go away!


maria   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

liz cheney! put a sock in it!!!


Martha Ross   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I am a Canadian and am tired of the false information regularly discussed on your show about the Canadian Health Care System!
Canadians choose their own doctors and the doctors decide treatment options-not the government nor insurance agencies. Also we do not need a visa card when we arrive at the ER and do not go bankrupt when we have a major illness that is costly to treat. Perhaps you should invite the Canadian Federal Minister of Health on your show to discuss the realities of the Canadian system instead of perpetuating false information that spreads confusion & hinders accurate decision making.


Cedric   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I am so feed up with this healthcare thing. If Republicans have so many problems with Obama's plan, then where is theirs? I think they should all either put their plan out or figure out how to make Obama's better. I think we would be better served that way than their constant bashing of this plan. I do think Obama is trying to rush things but he has a point in that it does seem awfully political to me with all those gripping about how bad Obama's plan is with no ideas of their own.


Heather   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Ms Cheney is either deliberately trying to deceive your viewers or is uninformed. I am a Canadian and her comments on our health system are NOT CORRECT...we choose our doctors and we do get good care...


Eric   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Cheney is clueless. I'm Canadian and am able to choose my doctor. I'll admit the system is not prefect, but the Canadian Health system is way better the what Americans have right now.


Penny   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Obama made a comment about drug companies and the cost of medications in this country. The fact is that this country produces most of the drugs used to treat human disease worldwide. TSome of the money that is spent for each prescrition goes back to the pharamaceutical companies for advancing research , new technologies for newer safer medications. What other country in the world discovers and produces life saving medications ? If we have drug cost restrictions newer safer medications will decline in our pharmaceutical pipelines.


Steve Frakes   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

The GOP blocked the healthcare back in 93'-94', other than to give ins. companies and the healthcare industery big tax breaks, what plan have they come up with to help all the Americans?


Agatha   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

I am an RN, after seeing so many people die in the hospital because of lack of health insurance, I think we need a system just like Medicare. This system does not control people access. It will cost less for young people because they do not have so may chronic diseases like the elderly. The elderly members of congress who oppose health care for everyone so forcefully should not use their medicare card and pay full cost


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Liz is just talking over the knuckle head that keeps getting (h)air time. What does he say that really makes any sense? Keep him off the air and give more air time to the more Liz's in the world~~


Bob Herbst   July 21st, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Why are you letting the arrogant non important (ignorant)Blonde RUN the show ?????????????????????????


Diane from Ocala FL   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Sorry, I meant "someone" tell Ms. Cheney to stop spewing rumors and fiction. (comment above)

By the way, look at the Canadians responding to her comments. It speaks volumes. Every Canadian I know LOVES their health care system. I've not met one individual that lives in Canada that has a complaint. I live in a part of Florida where they come to live for 6 months out of the year.

Larry, someone needs to have real life citizens of Canada on a show to give the real opinion instead of listening to people like Liz Cheney!


Sharon Galloway   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Why, oh why, do we have to keep listening to Liz Cheney?! She's on every program on TV and now on Larry King too! What is it that the TV news market is flooded by her? She's dogmatic, totally partisan, is the daughter of a criminal – and she can't keep from interrupting to save her life!


Randy Misir.   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Dear Larry; You have Liz Cheney Lying to you about in the Canadian
system that the citizens are not allowed to pick their doctors.. This is a blatant lie.. Any Citizen in Canada can see any doctor at anytime. They can go to any hospital...Please correct Liz Cheney...This wrong news is all over the tv....Larry I need to speak on your show about health care, the banking system, and the current economic problems..Regards; Randy Misir....Remember the Canadian system is based on the saying THE STRENGTH OF THE NATION depends on the health of the population..... Randy Misir.


stas   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

To CNN, why is my comment always says "awaiting moderation"?? I f this stays, why bother commenting?


PJ   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

I am a Canadian who is watching the US debate on health care. It is laughable and insulting to hear comments about the Canadian health care system. On your program tonight, it was stated that my government picks my doctor. That is so unacceptably incorrect. It sounds like Ms. Cheney has no idea about Canada, and as she is from one of the wealthy few Americans, it is obvious that she cares little for those that are the working poor in your so called 'great country'. I can see my doctor, one that I picked all by myself, anytime that I need to. I have never experienced any disruption in my health care, and as I cared from my elderly mother for many years, I can relate to you that no services were ever with held because of her age or any pre-existing condition.
I am appalled at the lack of knowledge of the guest.


Karen   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Liz has no idea what she is talking about when she mentions the Canadian health care system...we DO get to choose who our doctor is..of course we have some issues, but everyone has EQUAL access wether rich or poor and we don't lose our homes in the process of getting treatment. I guess it is fine when you are a member of government or one of the elite in the USA, but for the middle class and the working poor, the Canadian system works very well


PMaclennan   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

I'm a Canadian and listening to Liz Cheney's comments made me shake my head. Her comments about our health care system are untrue. We do get to choose our own doctors and have a health care system second to none. And guess what? We don't have to pay huge insurance premiums to get it!


texassam   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Liz Cheney is another Ann Coulter...You just can't get them to listen


Steve Flood   July 21st, 2009 9:22 pm ET

My mom passed away last August after a 2 year fight with cancer. She was given the greatest medical care, the greatest doctor and nurse attention, she was picked up form her home to be taken to and from the hospital.........................
She lives in London, the NHS was the service provided.
I have 4 sons, 2 were born in the UK, under NHS.............the greatest of care.
I was laid off at work in May, I looked at COBRA to continue health coverage, I was asked to pay $950 approximately. I could not afford this.
I went to try to get private health care for my twin 2 1/2 year old boys, one was born with a small heart murmer.
United Health Care WOULD NOT cover him.

Under OBAMA Stimpulus plan, my COBRA payment was rduced from $950 to $291 for my 3 children who need coverage.

Those who complain that we should not allow the Government to decide our health fate, should try to get coverage when they have a family member with any medical complaint..

I can tell you this, if Obama succeds...........your child will not be turned away like they do in private health care....

People should contribute according to earnings.
Just as they do in Europe.

I congratulate the President and wish him well


beth   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I think the only reason Joe Jackson is denying that he never abused Michael is because he left him out of his will. If anybody saw Micahel's interview with Oprah, he told her that he was abused by his father and if anybody saw their movie you saw his mother telling him to stop the beatings. And Joe should leave Michael's kids alone there going through alot right now and he does'nt need to exploit them and put them on stage like he did to his own kids, I feel this is very wrong.

I also think that Michael's mother should get custody of the kids and Joe should just mind his own business their not together anymore, he should stay out of this issue.

Beth


john molinari   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I have been concerned about healthcare changes that might materialize in the near future, having seen the ads on tv using actual European patients. They claim that the European healthcare system is not as good as our system. Then, as I usually do, I decided to investigate the facts, and I was shocked at the results. Most people unfortunately believe only what they hear and see via the media, which is a tragedy of laziness fueled by biases and predetermined alliances.

First, let us look at the World Health Organization's (WHO) ranking of the world's health systems. In health expenditures per capita, the United States is #1, which is no surprise. We spend more money per individual than any other nation. You would think that our entire healthcare system would then be #1, right? Guess again. The following facts are startling:

The WHO rankings are as follows: France is #1, Italy #2, San Marino #3, Andorra #4, Malta #5, Singapore #6, Spain #7, Oman #8, Austria #9, Japan #10, Norway #11, Portugal #12, Monaco #13, Greece #14, Iceland #15, Luxembourg #16, Netherlands #17, United Kingdom #18, Ireland #19, Switzerland #20, Belgium #21, Colombia #22, Sweden #23, Cyprus #24, Germany #25, Saudi Arabia #26, United Arab Emirates #27, Israel #28, Morocco #29, Canada #30, Finland #31, Australia #32, Chile #33, Denmark #34, Dominica #35, Costa Rica #36, and the USA #37. I was astounded.

There are many European countries, including Great Britian, France, Spain, Italy, Greece, etc, and Canada, rated above us, as is Costa Rica and Saudi Arabia. Give me a break! Great Britain and Canada are the countries used in those tv ads meant to frighten US citizens, but they are rated higher. What is going on here. We spend more money per capita but are rated #37. This leads me to believe that there is so much waste in our healthcare system that it needs a great overhaul, sooner rather than later. But the facts don't stop here.

I decided to examine the life expectancy rates also. Macau is #1, at 84.379 years. Japan #3, at 82.07, France (metropolitan) #8 at 80.87, Canada # 14, at 80.34, Spain #19, at 79.78, Greece #24, at 79.38, South Korea #29, at 79.10, Germany #33, at 78.95, United Kingdom #37, at 78.7, Jordan #40, at 78.55, Bosnia and Herzegovina #42, at 78.17, and the USA # 45, at 78.06. I couldn't believe the statistics. Again, Great Britan and Canada have a greater life expectancy than the USA. One must conclude that those tv ads are misleading. What else is new, just another media campaign filled with data meant to mold public opinion. But there was one more statistic to investigate: infant mortality rates.

Afghanistan is the worst when it comes to infant deaths per 1000 live births, at 169, which is not a surprise. As far as the least deaths. Iceland is #1 with 1.3 per 1000 live births; not bad. Japan is #9 with 2.8. Slovenia #13 with 3.1, France #17, with 3.6, Germany #24 with 3.9, Italy #28 with 4.2, Estonia #3 with 4.9, United Kingdom #34 with 4.9, Cuba #37 with 5.3, Canada #38 with 5.4, Croatia #39 with 5.7, Hungary #40 with 5.7, Poland #45 with 6.0, Slovakia #46 with 6.1, and the USA # 47 with 6.6. Again, I was astounded. Canada and Great Britian do a better job saving infants per 1000 live births. And so does Cuba and Slovakia.

I'm not sure what the answer is to correct these startling statistics uncovered with minimal effort, but it is very obvious that the US healthcare system is drowning under the weight of too much money spent with substandard results. There is by far a lot of waste in our system, and I hope the generally useless politicians acomplish something for a change. Our lives depend on it.


Carmella   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I support Healthcare reform but, leave the private sector alone. The main purpose of reform is to cover the uninsured. People who already have coverage should not have an option for a public plan. Second I have yet to hear anyone quantify the tangible cost of inaction. What does it cost American Taxpayers annually when someone receives medical coverage who is not insured. That is a number that would be most interesting to everyone. Third to far too fast, we may get reform, but I question whether it will be the right type of reform.


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Just to set the record straight, in Canada we can and always have been able to choose our own doctor.


James Wiley   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I am a Canadian and wish to respond to the woman on your show tonight. Sorry, I tuned in late and do not know her name. I just want to respond to her comment that Canadians do not have the right to choose their own doctor. This is completely false. Canadians may choose any doctor they wish providing that the doctor is accepting new patients. Unfortunately, this is just one of many misconceptions Americans have about the Canadian health care system.

James Wiley


Therese Hewitt   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I've been a health insurance agent for 20 years. The number one reason for so many uninsured people is that they absolutely refuse to purchase it. They choose instead to have two inch long fingernails with rhinestones for $100 twice a month, $300 to $400 a month cigarette habits, Cadillac Escalades costing $700 to $800 a month sitting in front of a shack or doublewide trailer, drinking or drug habits, the list goes on. The people who choose NOT to insure themselves and their families have made their choice. They choose for the government to bail them out or to beg poverty to the provider. They will also decline a government sponsored program if it means paying a premium. What's needed is financial education and responsibility.


Chris Perra   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Wow. I can't believe the republicans constant repitition of "In Canada you can't pick your own doctor"

They are either outright lying or are totaly ignorant!!!! Unbelievable...

I'm a Canadian and I can pick any doctor I want anywhere in Canada...

Total falicy to to think Canadians are dying because of lack of cancer care... what a joke...

If in fact you have a long waiting line... you can pay for extra coverage... our basic health care is free... But there are other options and extended insurance plans people can pay for if needed...

It's hilarious that your government officials are soooo ignorant and missinformed


cathy   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Larry - why is Cheney getting all the camera time. Everytime I look up it's Cheney on the screen. Are you going to let James C finish any thought or respond to her??


Allison   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Bravo to the Administration to push for a new health care bill and system. I am Canadian. I just heard Liz Cheney say that Canadians do not choose their own doctor or treatments. That is not true at all. I have chosen my own doctor for all of my life. And I have never suffered for a lack of treatment. My husband had cancer and had world class treatment as well. We have felt very lucky to live here and not to have had to pay exorbitant fees for his care through cancer as we would have had to do in the US unfortunately.


kimberlee wallace   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

I've just been watching your discussion on President Obama's healthcare reforms and I am very upset aboout the comments about Canadian health care. I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but I am an American citizen who has been living in Toronto, Canada for 25 years. All I can say is I have always chosen my own physicians, recieved prompt and effiecient health care, and have never been shown a bill when leaving a hospital or doctor's office. I hear horror stories from my family in Pennsylvania about the cost of health care and can't believe the false propaganda Americans are hearing about health care in Canada and other countries where there is government control. I love America but am horrified by the lack of concern for those who can not afford health care. Don't listen to those politicians telling you it doesn't work in Canada, Britain and all the other civilized countries in the world who care about their people and know it is their responsibility to care for everyone. It does work and works well!


celtic lady in Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Hey Larry
As a Canadian it drives me crazy when I hear people on TV talking about our healthcare system and getting their facts wrong!
Please let Ms. Cheny know that I have always chosen my own Doctors and have NEVER had the government choose for me.
There is lots wrong with our system....like any system it has flaws, but when people like Ms. Cheny randomly present falsehoods it weakens her arguement.
Thanks
Celtic


Isabel from Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Tell Liz Cheney that only the very wealthy will travel from Canada to the U.S. and pay the outrageous health costs!


Sonia   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Love James Carville how he can put facts forward to dismiss that Liz Cheney ,Larry why do you have her on your show?


Carol   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Liz Cheney,

I am a Canadian Citizen and have lived here all my life. I can choose my own family doctor and any specialist I wish to see. Before you go on international television and start demonizing the Canadian health care system you should get your facts straight. Canadians are very appreciative of their health care system. To hear you talk you would think that every Amercian citizen who has cancer would get immediate treatment and the best possible care. Those forty seven million who are uninsured and those who have insurance but are denied coverage because of preexisting conditions would welcome a system like ours.


Tim   July 21st, 2009 9:23 pm ET

No sooner than Obama states what we all know about health care going up so fast, Liz and all Republicans throw up vague, unfounded and unsubstantiated claims that health care will go up even more, and the same old scary refrains - you won't get to see the doctor of your choice, or we'll have health care like Canadians or Brits. It's the same fear tactics with no weapons of mass destruction to show. Does Liz really believe this, or she just interested in the status quo. The system has to change. What I see is cost going up and massive profits growing in the health care industry. Those are real numbers.


Lynda Harris   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I'd like to comment on the statements made by Liz Chaney regarding how bad our Canadian health system is.I really resent those remarks because in my opinion, they're wrong. We choose our own drs. and we get good treatment and referals. If what she says is true, then why are Americans stealing out health cards to get treatment they can afford? Don't take only a couple of people at their word and swear it's the truth. Proud Canadian


paul smith   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

why dosent larry control the guests talking at the same time so we can know what they are saying, that makes him a very bad moderator paul in asheville nc


Karen Seabrooke   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Sometimes I dispair at the level of debate about health care in the U.S. Time and again you guests, other CNN guests and other networks' guest misquote facts and figures, particularly when it comes to foreign health care systems. I live in Canada, and I believe we have a great system. Wait lines? If anyone dug deeper they'd realize the reason for wait lines (which are not really that significant here) has to do with the encroachment of privatization of our health care system. When I listen to the partisan politics on US networks, it saddens me and often infuriates me. There is so much misinformation. The US system is a mess, hardly better than in a thid world country – Americans should be so lucky as to have what we have – a public system where everyone has access to health care without breaking the bank. It's really excellent.
Karen S.


Colleen   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Re: Ms. Cheney's completely uninformed comment regarding Canada's health care system and not being able to pick your doctor! Where does she get her misinformation?????? Utter nonsense! I understand why she so vehemently defends Sarah Palin. They both have verble diarhhia and spout untruthful drivel


Brad N and a CANADIAN   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Ok, I think its time you get a real Canadian on to talk about our health care system. There is obviously lots of wrong information. Larry just had a guest (female) who said we cannot pick our doctors – a total lie. Not only can we chose ANY doctor we wish but we can go back for 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinions to other doctors without it ever costing us a cent. I am 43 year old Canadian and have NEVER had an issue with our health care system nor ever waited to obtain health care. Appears those not in favor of your proposed heath care system are using WRONG information about Canada to sway the public. Absolutely disgusting way of "selling" their message. I have also had many relatives with serious illnesses (cancer, etc) who have received nothing less than world class care and KNOW no one personally who has ever had a complaint against our system let alone ever had to travel to another country. PLEASE research what these "guests" are saying! I hope you all will see thru these scare tactics and one day EVERY American citizen can enjoy the health care EVERY Canadian enjoys.


susan scott   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

I was watching tonight's program and the republican representative comments on Obama's health reform. Once again Americans are making incorrect comments about the Canadian health care system. The government does not chose our doctors for us. We choose who we want to see, and referal's to specialists are made on our behalf by our own personal doctor. Yes our system has some flaws and sometimes we have wait times for certain services, but in my own family I have a grandparent who has had lung surgery twice and brain surgery once and she received the care in a timely manner and without charge. I find it repugnant that the richest country in the world has so much trouble doing the morally right thing by providing a universal health care system for all. Health care is a human right and and should be an integral part of any free society.


MWilson   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Liz Cheney is misinformed about Canadians not being able to choose a doctor. We not only choose our physicians, also have the option of choosing a private practice doctor.


Jose Antonio   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Sarah Palin had the guts to renounce the governorship of Alaska, it does not matter what te press or her enemies say, That is something that a lot of governosrs don't have. They just want to sit, and do nothing but let the states go down the drain. She has a strong personality and charisma, and she ddoes not make false promises as most of the new populist in united sates. Sarah Palin next president of the Unite States


KJS   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

the Cheney broad always take your show from you Larry,,,,,chatter chatter chatter


Deborah Garcia   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

If Carville really went inside a VA Hospital to see how patients are treated and the poor care they receive, he would be shocked! If they are a patient in the hospital, they usually end up with bed sores and seldom get bathed,etc. Outpatient clinics are a day long waiting line for them to see a physician and an enormous amount of paperwork for them to get their medication or medical equipment. I am a nurse and a Home Care Owner here in Dallas, Texas and I agree with Cheney. Do you want to wait in line all day for one prescription and also not be guaranteed what doctor you will end up seeing. God to Canada with Obama if that is what you want!!!


Rich Orwell in CA   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Larry – Please hold up a sign that says "Shut up" in front of Liz Cheney when James Carville is talking.

Also, when you're going to commercial and say "We'll be back with James Carville and Liz Cheney and more on Larry King Live", I think it's unfair that you mention Carville ONCE and moron TWICE.

Finally, a Tom Swifty I sent Rick Sanchez that he read on air - "Shackle the prisoners to the walls," said Dick Chainey. <= spelling intentional.

Be well.


Kathy   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

All I have to say is shame on you Larry King for the way you treated Joe Jakson last night. No one deserves to be treated like that, especially a father that just lost his son.

Laughing at Carville......Cheney gets to him everytime.


Mzrose   July 21st, 2009 9:24 pm ET

Larry, this question is for Dick Cheney'sdaughter,
How could someone with a silver be an authority on healthcare?


Elle Macintosh   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Larry ... I can't stand it. As an fan of your program will you please get qualified Canadians to discuss the reality of our health care program to eleviate the nonsense that is what Liz Cheney is saying. It discredits our system and is untrue! Please feel free to discuss this with me if need be. I'm totally willing to discuss the truth about our health care and my experience with it.

WE DO CHOOSE OUR MEDICAL HELP, DOCTORS AND MEDICATION!!!!
L. Macintosh


Traci   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Where is this "expert" getting her information on the Canadian Health Care system? I've never had anyone dictate who my doctor is, or when or what kind of treatment I will recieve. Lately I've heard many misinformed comments made by American "experts" on my country's health care system... they've all been grossly wrong. I am shocked that a show such as Larry King Live is arbitrarily putting up all this wrong information. Please ask someone that knows the Canadian Health Care system properly, to appear on your show. You're making yourselves look ridiculous.

Traci


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

James Carville is hilarious! He's right that Republicans are hypocrites! And Cheney trying to throw John Edwards into the mix! As a North Carolinian, I never heard Edwards refer to his mistress as "the love of [his] life!"


Jim   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I am a partner in a small business which has provided group health insurance for the employees for over 15 years. Each year the cost of the insurance coverage has gone up between 20 and 30% per year. Why do the insurance companies get a "free pass" when they raise their premiums? I don't see anybody blaming part of the rising cost of health care on the insurance companies.


Donna Scaglione   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Please someone tell Ms. Cheney that she needs to do some research on Canadian Health Care as she is way off base.


Ann Lock   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Liz Cheney and the Republican party should poll the Canadian people and see if we are willing to change the US system for ours. Ours is not perfect but nobody in Canada has to declare bankruptcy after having surgery or a serious illness. I have had cancer and was diagnosed on a Friday morning and had surgery on Monday morning. We choose our own physicians and there are so many inaccuracies in her comments.

Also, there is no such thing as a "pre-existing condition" or denial of treatment.

She is obviously in need of brushing up on her facts.


Sheila Holmes-Alborough   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Dear Larry,

Once again Liz Cheney has proven she knows nothing about health
care in Canada!!! Having lived my entire life in Canada, I have always
been able to choose my own doctor and have lived in two different provinces. The health care system Liz referred to is in the UK, not Canada!!!! Please get your facts straight before spouting them on international television. It just proves again how little the Republicans know about their biggest neighbor to the North!!!


Tom Slaughter   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I find Liz Cheney totally rude, unprofessional, and completely devoid of any credentials that merit her being given air time. Is CNN and Larry King that presse for people to appear that they seek someone with without bona fides?


Angela Goldfinch   July 21st, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to check her info before she spouts off about the Canadian medical system. It is simply not true that you cannot choose your own DR in Canada, I live in Canada and have always chosen my own DR. & if I need to see a specialist my MD will refer me to the Specialist of my choice; certainly our system is not without fault, but it is simply not as scary or desperate as some of your guests would have your audience believe. The architect of the Canadian medical system was Tommy Douglas – voted the best Canadian ever...I wonder why?
Yes we can choose our medicine, our doctors etc. LIZ get an education beyond your borders.


Nancy   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I don't understand why Liz Cheney is on your show discussing health care reform and other political issues. Why does she keep showing up on CNN as if she had anything worthy to say?
At some point, she even said "President Obama has a credibility problem". Are you kidding me? Seriously? Am I mistaken, or is she the one who has DEFENDED her father on every news network for the past few weeks. She has defended a VP who forged intelligence to go to an unjustified war. Who do you think she is to talk about "credibility" ?
When will CNN ever stop giving her the microphone? This is why CNN's ratings have been slipping lately. Why doesn't CNN stand for some principles anymore?


Alison in Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Ditto with my fellow Canadians. I live in Canada and we choose our own doctors and get great care. The health care debate is a necessary process in your country, but false premises should not be tolerated. Universal health care is really well worth the taxes we pay. Admittedly, not an easy program to manage, but it can be done, and it is crucial to a healthy, hopeful and productive population.


ross   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I don't know why Liz Chaney and other Americans feel we can't choose our Doctor in Canada. I can choose any Doctor I want. Our Health Care in Canada is Excellent. Every Countries Health System has its problems, and the American System is far from perfect. Atleast in Canada they don't go after my personal property when my insurance limits run out.


Lynn   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Hello Larry,

I am watching your show every night and what Liz Cheney just said about Canadian heathcare system is wrong. I have my own doctors and I can see them anytime I want.
Our system is not perfect but at least everybody is covered.....

Montreal, Canada


Carmine I   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

As a proud Canadian with the same doctor for 30 years, whom my parents chose I can only say that Liz Cheney knows nothing about the Canadian health care system. My father had a quadruple by-pass, picked the surgeon, total cost $0. My wife and I have four children total cost for medical care $0. We do have one thing that I believe we can give to Liz Cheney as a gift and that would be the woman from Waterdown Ontario who is in the Republican comercial and claims that her only choice for immediate health care was to pay $100000.00 for it in Arizona. More money than brains.


Richard   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Liz Cheyney says Canadians don't choose their own doctors. Who chooses our doctors for us Canadians? I know of nobody in Canada who doesn't choose their own doctor.


Laura Bernardi   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I am Canadian living in Hamilton, Ontario and am tremendously thankful that I live here. We have the Juravinski Cancer Centre and, since April my mother has received A-1 care. The phrase we hear continuously is "how much would this care cost in the states"? It is unfortunate my mother is suffering from terminal lung cancer. The care she is receiving, at no cost at all to her is unimagineable to all Americans. It is sad that the comments of one Canadian woman will be viewed by you as truth. She is an exception, not the rule. I love our health care! How sad, you would spend the kind of money needed to fix this on other matters, but are reluctant to take care of your own.


Irene M. Visnich   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

I don't think your audience appreciates the views of Republican Political
Analyst Liz Cheney. Isn't there someone with more experience
in politics than her, besides we were enjoying the absence of her
father from the political world and she reminds the viewers of
him.


Sammy   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Larry, as a ex Canadian living in the us I am tired of all the BS republicans and others that put the Canadian system down without even knowing anything about it. Why don't you actually bring canadian official to explain the system and shed some light on the issue.


Colin from Halifax, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

She said it AGAIN! That's the third time your guest Ms. Cheney said that we in Canada do not get to chose our own doctors, which of course is totally untrue. At best she is uninformed. At worst she is deliberately trying to frighten Americans.


sue   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to do more research on the health care system in Canada. She just stated that Canadians cannot chose their doctors. As a Canadian I can assure you that she is incorrect in that statement. We have an excellent health care system. It is not perfect but it is much better at protecting the health care needs of all Canadians than in the US. Like in the US there are some areas in the country where there are not enough family doctors available and patients need to go further afield but all can access health care. Ms Cheney really needs to learn how to listen and allow others to complete their sentences.


Alleigh   July 21st, 2009 9:26 pm ET

As a Canadian I am tired of uneducated people slamming our system. I have always chosen my doctors, I am a cancer survivor, I had the best of care and treatment. My husband required open-heart surgery and had it at the Peter Munk Cardiac Centre which is rated #1 in North America. Why doesn't Lynne Cheney compare U.S. infant mortality rates with any other 1'st world nation. Our system isn't perfect but it is certainly better than most.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Universal Healthcare would take away our right to pick the medical provider and care we want. It would also hit the elderly as well, the young would get care before the elderly. Is that what Obama is referring to when he says it would save money? God forbid Universal Healthcare,Obama Healthcare Reform, is passed. We all will be in a world of trouble.


Lil, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I wish some Americans would stop commenting on the Canadian health care system if they don't understand how it works. Liz Cheney said or implied that in the Canadian system you don't get to choose your doctor. That is totally untrue. I have a family doctor, and certain specialists that I visit. None of them was chosen by my government. I chose the family doctor I wanted to visit, he refers me to specialists where appropriate.

The Canadian system may not be perfect but I certainly prefer to have it without having to worry about going bankrupt. My insurance premiums are $600.00 per year and I have never been denied any medical services. Those premiums, by the way, are about the average.

A few years ago I visited my doctor over an issue which would require a biopsy. The very next day I was in the hospital having surgery and having the biopsy done. There was no delay.

I had a relative who had cancer. She had top Canadian doctors who gave her the very latest in cancer treatment. She succumbed to the disease not because she was not afforded the best treatment but because she had a rare type of cancer. There was never any delay in her treatment.

In every system there may be exceptions and those who may have had a bad experience I believe are in the minority. I am sure if a poll were conducted most Canadians would prefer what they have over the American system.

Before Americans comment, they should do their research. By the way, under the Canadian health care system, there is no such thing as "pre-existing condition".


Nancy Lee   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Larry!

Get it together! Please control the outrageous behavior of this guest.
It is NOT acceptable that you are not doing your job..

GET IT TOGETHER!


Charlotte   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Larry;
This comment is for Liz who stated that in the Canadian health care system we do not get to pick our own Doctor. Personally I would really like to know where she got her information from along with the people on commercials against the health care system in Canada and not wanting it in the states. Your loss
I'm 54 and have always picked my own Doctor and not because I'm affluent (I collect disability).
Our system is far from perfect but please don't out and out lie about it.

Love your show Larry.


f cherry   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

If your guests don't know the facts they shouldn't speak. I live in Canada and I choose my own doctors, my mother even had a free stem cell transplant and open heart surgery. Liz "big mouth" doesn't know what she is talking about.....


susan   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

larry if you can't keep liz cheney from interrupting, then don't have her on any more. if you can't get control of your show, then it's time to pack it up and go home. PLEASE. do you have any idea how irritating it is to try to listen to someone speak while the other one constantly interrupts? it's a tactic she uses, and it's unacceptable.

lay down the law to her once and for all, and if she continues to be rude, do not ask her back.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Gee, am I watching CNN or FOX News?!? Liz Cheney is SO arrogant! She should just come out and admit that she doesn't like America having a president of African descent. Hmmm....


kturner   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I want to know why Liz Cheney acts sooooo concerned about health care when her father will be able to pay for her and her children many times over. It is of NO concern of her's.


A.S.   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Hi there! I'm so glad that Canadians are standing up for their health care system...I love our system..I'm glad everyone is treated equally whether they drive a Mercedes or take the bus...Cheney said it again! We can pick our own doctors and see whoever we want...She's just as ignorant as her father...it's not her fault...as long as people like that don't cross the border over here, I'm just fine


mary   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

A healthy discussion is great, but Liz Cheney needs to learn manners. she is rude, constantly interrupting and raising her voice above James AND Larry. Next time she is on, I will not watch. She is VERY immature and if she wants to go into politics, she better grow up and be professional.


H Arnold   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Liz Cheney does not get it. She is argumentative and without basis. Look and listen to her. She is a staunch Republican who is a symbol of her father, the worst Vice-President who lead this country into the state that we are in presently.


Carmella   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Good point Carville, and now Cheney wants to flip flop away from the real issues. Republicans have always had a holy than thou attitiude, very judgemental and now look at them. Let him without sin cast the first stone. We were born in sin and shaped in iniquity, so get over it Republican Party, everyone falls short. Govern and stop making your platform based on morals, when there is no one person that is totally righteous there are enough examples in both parties that show examples of that.


pat   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to get her facts correct about the Canadian Health care system before speaking.


Carla Williams   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Please stop having Lynn Cheney on your program. She is beyond annoying. I change the channel every time I see her anywhere on television. Extremely annoying person.

Carla


Richard   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Hey Liz, you join your negative party line of offering criticism and no alternatives to fixing the HUGE problems that Bush left behind.
Republicans preach less government but are quick to try and tell everyone how they should live by these conservative self righteous values.

I also think you distort that we are not safe or Pres. Obama is breaking from campaign commitments. Bush's eight years have left this country with sooo many huge problems and I am proud to have someone with intelligence and can articulate himself.


Aaegie, Toronto, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Liz Chenney just keeps spewing alot of mis-information about Canada's health care system based on hear say. Again in Canada you get to choose your own Doctor and Canada has highest number of survivors and again treatment is free, people do not mortgage homes and lives to get health care becuase it is free. My question to Ms Chenney is have you been to Canada? and have you used the Canadian health care system.


Errin Weigel   July 21st, 2009 9:27 pm ET

I'm not sure where Liz Cheney is getting her information about the Canadian Health Care system but she is way off base. Either is is seriously misinformed or she is a blatant liar. Of course the apple usually doesn't fall far from the tree does it? Canadian's live longer, have better health, take far less time off work for sick days and we also have a lower rate of S.T.D's and teen pregnancy, all thanks to our universal health care system. Our health care costs us 11% of our income and everyone gets health care, whereas in the U.S. health care is costing people 14% of their income and over 40 million people have NO HEALTH CARE. My husband had Cancer 2 years ago and we saw the surgeon, the oncologist and the plastic surgeon all on the same day and he was in for surgery within a week. While people do have to wait for elective surgeries, people with life threatening conditions receive excellent and immediate care.

Can someone please tell her to shut up while other people are trying to speak btw. How rude!


Mzrose   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

The GOP are a bunch of hypocrites...

why are they afraid of a black President...that lady represents the core of the GOP party.. How could she degrade the President like that..


frank maschkowski   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

IS EVERYONE SLEEPING AT LARRY KING

COUNT HOW MANY TIMES THE MAN WAS INTERUPTED COMPARED TO THE LADY

I CAN NOT WATCH

i MIGHT AS WELL WATCH FOX


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Liz get your own TV show so you can talk to yourself.


RickfromDetroit   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I have been a patient at the VA for 2 years. My private health insurance is still refusing to pay for the 2 knee injuries I have and I am now collecting Social Security. If it weren't for the VA and Social Security, I would be living on a park bench today. Eventually my lawyer will collect the money I am owed, but thanks to Uncle Sam I still have a roof over my head and 3 meals a day.


Erin   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Oh my gosh this woman needs to stop interrupting and get mad when James Carville tries to say something and she keeps talking. She won't let him answer the question. Liz Cheney you are rude!!!!!! No wonder you like Palin! You have the manners of your dad. Who has none. If this is the way Republicans raise their kids then they need to go away! Rude,rude,rude.


Benji   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Hi Larry,

I am a French Canadian and I really wish I could be cited on your show: the Canadian system is not perfect and yes, come people feel that they are not treated fast enough but in the end, everyone gets to be treated in the healthcare system. Someone in my family is very ill from cancer and she is being treated very well despite that she is disabled and having to raise two kids on her own without any external support but her small welfare allocation.

It is a little bit disturbing to hear how the republican party is trying to convey false idea.

I hope that the President Obama will succeed as the USA are one of the last democratic countries in the world without a healtcare system. However, there will be a price to pay for this: a general tax raise for everyone, especially the richest ones.

Regards,

Benji (my French name would be too hard to pronounce in French).


Joan Reilly   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Dear Larry,
Once again the Republican party is using Liz Cheney as a representative for their party and having a tunnel vision of what is factual.
I find it incredible to argue about what Obama has done after her father and President Bush has left this country in the worst recession since the depression.
Once again, she made comments about feminist not liking Sarah Palin – most women do not like her because she is not bright -end of story. The fact that Sarah Palin was even considered a potential Vice President was ridiculous. The Brooklyn Borough President has more of a constituent than she did and we are always hearing how a Borough President is always the first choice as a Vice President of the United States! I hope one day that Republicans can stop playing the blame game and look at reality.
Thanks,
Joan


Michelle   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I agree with James that the VA doctors do a great job...but I would not wish the VA system or military health care on the whole country. Waiting sometimes months for an appointment, never seeing the same doctor twice, etc. is socialized medicine and it exists for military families. If Congress wants to change health care, they should lose their extraordinary lifetime health plan and move to what they force on our veterans and their families.


pat wright   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Concerning healthcare reform: The problem with the suggestions we've heard offered by the house and senate is that they suggest throwing money at the effects rather than identifying and correcting the causes of costly healthcare. Opportunistic and frivilous lawsuits that require medical professionals to secure malpractice insurance are major expenses that drive healthcare costs higher. Likewise medicare, medicaid, and insurance fraud are major contributing factors to the costs of healthcare. Correction of those causes would logically be the place to start reform.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Larry asked Liz Cheney if she plans to run for office. Gee, spare us all...PLEASE...


Wanda Tolbert   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Why is it that we don't complain about spending billions of dollars on needless space programs, and aiding other countries, but when it comes to spending money on ourselves, i.e. healthcare and education, it's overspending?


Gemma   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Larry, shame on you for allowing to have LIZ CHENEY on your show. SHE'S horrible speaker. SHE kept interrupting and it's making your show ineffective publicly. I just wanna shot my TV when I see HER talking.


marie   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

What ever happened to "fact checking" in the news? Just because this is a "talk" show then it is OK to use a national media forum to allow a person like Liz cheney to just lie again and again with her statement
We need to be careful or we will end up with the Canadian system with the government choosing our Dr and medicine etc ad nauseum.
THIS IS A LIE EVERYONE!!
I am from Canada --and I am also insulted but sure lucky that I will never lose my home because I need health care
I just had back surgery and spent 8 days in hospital ( OH YAH–I CHOSE MY SURGEON! AND HOSPITAL) this would have cost me my home down there I have no doubt
Notice only the already rich argue against universal health care?


Karen Price   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Regarding our health care system and comparing it to the Canadian system – I lived in Canada for 31 years and I never once had to worry about the availability of a doctor, tests, surgeries, etc. until I moved here eight years ago! Each time I switch employers, or my employers switch health care plans, I have to worry that my doctor is not on the approved list! My daughter had a brain aneurism last year and she was in the hospital for almost two months and everything, including all of the follow up was covered under her medical program. Her father was diagnosed with an auto immune disorder and has been treated by doctors and specialists for about 10 years – and everything was covered. My mother-in-law came from Bellingham, WA to Vancouver as there was a six month waiting list in Washington!

Will someone get Liz Cheney to shut up! Every time she is on she constantly interupts and goes off on tangents to grand stand on what she wants to discuss!


Sabrina   July 21st, 2009 9:28 pm ET

Please attend to addressing the President as President Obama. Note that James Carville consistently did this properly and you did not.


Colleen Edwards   July 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Would you kindly tell Ms. Cheney that she has her facts wrong. I'm a Canadian, I have my own family doctor whom Ichose, and I get excellent, expedient medical care for whatever my health needs are!!!!!!


Allen Wayne   July 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Liz Cheney does not know what she is talking about. All canadians choose there own doctors. She obviously does not know very much about Canadian health care. In the last 8 years i have 5 way by pass
hip surgery, and recently spent 25 days in the hospital for a bone infection and I have never paid a penny for all services, and you can tell me the american system is better. No Way!!
Allen Wayne, Calgary Alberta


bonnie mitnickand   July 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

i wish you could have doctors discuss healthcare instead of all of the talking heads. decisions that should be made by doctors and patients are now being decided on by non-medically trained clerks. i have worked in medical offices for 20 years and have seen medicine go from bad to worse. if the medical profession keeps going in the direction it is going, no one will choose to become a physician. insurance should be a non profit organization. it should not be in anyones best interest to deny coverage so that the insurance companies can profit.


Latch   July 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Something for Liz Cheney to think about....try to fix your own (USA's) health problems wihtout criticizing the British or Canadian systems.

Liz, contrary to what you said on air.....and get your facts straight

1) In Canada, doctors are not chosen for us....
2) there is no line up treatment for cancer patients....my mother is a cancer patient and she has received top notch service that the average American cannot afford or may have to mortgage their home..


Lorne Clarke   July 21st, 2009 9:29 pm ET

Larry,
I just saw a lady on your show making misleading statements about our Canadian heath care program. She implied that in Canada we have no choice as to what doctor we want to see. That is totaly false. I have my own family doctor and I chose him. We have a great health care system and like any system , it has its glitches that occur sometimes. For the life of me, I can't understand why some people in the U.S.A. (the greatest and riches country in the world) are so opposed to having their government provide them with health care. Everyone in your great country should have access to a free a health care system. Health care is a right that that every American deserves. It should not be a money making business.


Diane Retired Army Officer   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

I am a retired Army Officer. The Louisville VA Medical Center provides excellent care. Just ask the Veterans who are treated there and at the local clinics. Ms. Cheney is not informed on the VA health care system. Mr Carville, is a Former Marine. Who should we believe? By the way, I lean Republican and often have a tough time supporting Mr. Carville. Tonight he was great! He is always well informed whether I agree or disagree with his. Ms Cheney is out of her league.


george tucker   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

take liz chaney"s health care an money away then ask her about health care


Carmella   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Liz needs to be quiet, Republicans did enough of their own to screw up this country the last 8 years. Once again that's how Republicans are, always finding fault in what everyone else does and never takes the time to look in the mirror.


Eydie   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

This woman Liz Cheney is a loud mouthed, rude person. And please get her to STOP saying Canadians don't have healthcare choices. Get your facts straight...oh, I forgot, you are your father's daughter...he too couldn't get his facts straight either...he said, and apparently believed, there we weapons of mass destruction...mmmmmm


M Barlow Fors   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Larry,

Please do not invite Liz Cheney back. She cannot engage in constructive dialogue or stay on topic. Her constant interruptions are childish, annoying and most importantly detract from your role and diminish your stature as a moderator.

Barlow


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Why should we expect anything else than rudeness from Liz Cheney? She's the spawn of the evil Dick Cheney.


Wayne   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Where do you people get your information from? How can someone come on your show and say that Canadians don't get to choose their doctors under our health plan. Completely untrue. I think your guest is spreading these untrue rumours to suit their own agenda.


Charlene   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

I am a Canadian and saying that Canadians don't get to pick their doctor's, that is just plain Crazy. In fact, I can go to 2 or 3 doctors in a day if I want to. I think that Americans may be missing the point. If taxes go up to help the poor who ARE dying in America because they don't have health care, then so be it. If the elite few want to have all the health care and let the poor die to save a little taxes, then I'll take the Canadian Health Care system anyday and keep going to the doctor for FREE. And by the way. My doctor is great!!!!!!!


Tony Alfaro   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Larry – I love your show, can you have Carville and Cheney facing off like that more often? What a train-wreck!

-Tony
Austin, TX


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Alleigh, you must be rich to pay such high taxes for your wonderful Universal Healthcare. I know better, and stop saying its something good for the people of the United States to have Universal Healthcare, it is not~!!!! I pay enough taxes and I am not willing to pay anymore~


Diane from Ocala FL   July 21st, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Question for Ms. Cheney? What is her view of her father's possible prosecution? And is she planning to visit him when he is convicted?


Gigi   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Larry, that Cheney woman is smug and has no respect for you or anyone else, why is she on national TV?


Laurie Clark   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I am stunned by the comments from Liz Cheney about the CDN medical system. I would expect someone of her background to be more "in the know" about other countries. Someone needs to teach her what is really going on in other countries. I think you need to talk to a REAL Canadian and find out the facts . There is a commercial on tv I have seen several times with a supposed Canadian telling how she couldnt get care here and would have died. Canadians are getting fed up with all the misinformation on our system. Americans will be lucky to enjoy what we have !!!


enid mcconnell   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I am not sure where Liz Cheney get her information concerning Cdns. and Brits not being able to choose their own doctors. I don't speak for Britain because I don't know but I am a Canadian and no one tells me what doctor I have to see or what or where I must get my drugs. I suggest she get her facts right before going on national tv.


Karen   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Note to Liz Cheney: Under the Canadian medical system we DO choose our own doctor ~ stop spreading nonsense as fact.


Kolu   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Larry u are great but can some one teach liz chenny how to carry on a conversation. this is my second time seeing her on your show and it is not worth our view


h_carolyn   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

I am a canadian & a 2 year servivor of lung cancer, I had a i week wait for my tests to start dec.7/06 had every test known & diagnose confirmed jan/07 had 5 wks of chemo & radiation starting jan 19th/07 & operated on april 10th 2007 I am grateful to be living in canada & CANADIAN so before you knock our health system do your home work I had excellent care.


Gerry   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Liz Cheney should just zip it. How can anyone stand to listen to her, where she never seems to let the other guests to complete their thoughts. Texasam is right on!

Liz Cheney is another Ann Coulter…You just can’t get them to listen and I would like to add you just can;t listen to her!

Come on CNN,,,Surely you can do better than this!


Twyla   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Re: Medical coverage
This lady that you have on right now is wrong about the Canadian Medical System. You get to chose your doctor and get great medical choices. Since I have moved to the US my medical coverage has cost me $12,000 a year for just coverage and basic medical needs. This year I am over 60 and it will be even more. You think we can continue to afford these kinds of cost? Why is everyone so negative about offering coverage to most Americans? So many aren't covered now anyway. My medical went up to over $900 a month with a $1000 deductible. this year I needed to change it to a $5000 deductible which means I need to pay for everything. And, guess what I just put off doing a mammogram because I can't afford it.


Ken Uzeloc   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Larry, I am from Calgary Alberta Canada.
Liz keeps saying that Canadians don't get to choose their doctors, she needs to check her facts!
I can choose my family doctor or my specialist if I want; or see an available doctor at any clinic. The difference is it doesn't cost me $500.00 a visit.

Thanks , keep up the good work.
ken


Deb   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

My feelings about Sarah Palin are that she
1. Loves the limelight....addicted to it perhaps.
2. Wants everyone else to pay her way and that of her kids and of course, Todd
3. Thinks we are too stupid to see her masking her self-serving abitions behind some noble cause.
4. Thinks that if she flirts, crosses her legs, talks on and on, or in some other way diverts attention away from the REAL issue....her actions, honesty and ethics, that no one will notice as she quietly slips unnoticed into the White House.

GIVE ME A BREAK!..Please Sarah....go home and get a job like REAL soccer moms have...stop trying to get others to pay your way, your legal fees, your travel expenses, your wardrobe..and those of your family.

You are NOT the Amazing Grace you may think of yourself as, and you are NOT the first politician to try to pull the wool over people's eyes....it's your pride that keeps you from seeing that we are not as dumb as you may think...and anyone who would pay your way will want something in return...remember that politicians make bad bedfellows...use the system and it will use you.


Garry   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

If our canadian system is so substandard,why is our infant mortality rate lower than the USA.(cuba 's rate is lower than yours) and why is our life expectancy ranked 14 in the world and yours is tied for 29th.


caroline holroyd   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

where does Liz Chaney get her information that Canadians cannot chose their own doctors or medicine. I am a Canadian and have always been able to chose. Neither me nor my husband have had to wait for medical care. She obviously knows little about Canadians. Even if I had to wait, which I don't it would be better than not getting medical help at all if I could not afford it. I surely and glad I do not have to worry about getting sick. Thank God I live in canada.


Trejin   July 21st, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Larry love the show but Liz Cheney is annoying. After watching the last few minutes it became clear to me everything that is wrong in the GOP. Too much mud slinging and not enough fixing. Liz is out of her league trying to talk politics with Mr. Carville.

The GOP is on life support and it shows.


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Liz Cheney is so misinformed and comes off a bit delusional. The country hated Dick Cheney and Liz is just his parrot. Why does Larry have her on so much? I think Larry and producers should have more informed guests on...not just opposing pundits who spread false information. Why not get more experts on the subject up for discussion? It's a real missed opportunity. Liz talks as if Obama is trying to get a single payer system passed which is just not true.


Linda   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Liz

Don't you mean a BLACK MAN FOR PRESIDENT, yes White People are imtidated by that, SHUT UP LIZ and let him answer. Even Liz wants to keep this going, so we are to believe she's American because she is White. These people are ridicolus, The Republican's and the Right can't stand the fact that they have a Black President and thats all it is in a nut shell, thats why they won't agree on anything he says. You all can pretend its something else, its his liberal ways, his policy his this or that, its the color of his skin that they can't get over and the fact that a Black Man can be smarter than them gets their blood boiling even more, but haha it not going to change, and he is a lot SMARTER than they are, what losers.


Gerry   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

CNN has validated Lynn Cheney as a leading voice of the Republican Party. She hasn't held office, nor participated in any meaningful way in the greater political scene. She's simply the well spoken daughter of a former Vice President.

She simply a voice and a face. Jame Carville should refuse to sit on a panel with her. Why give her credibility?


Kimberly A. Borden   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Larry,

Ask Liz how she feels about Prop 8


Ethel Styron   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

I bet if we took all the congress the dems. and republicans med.coverage away from them they would be a little more involved in getting a medical plan worked out.


Cindy   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

I just like to make a comment about Ms. Cheney on your show tonight taking about Heath Care - I live in Ontario Canada and our health care is terrific. We can go to the hospital at any time of the day, week, month and be taken care of. We can pick the doctor we won't as long as that dr. can receive more patients. Our taxes pay for that. I think that most of you Americans live for well beyond your means. I am not talking about those that are under the poverty line but those that make a good living don't pay enough taxes. What do you care who gets the coverage as long as all of you get it. My parents in 1 year had triple bypass surgery and stomach cancer. All medication and hospital stays and dr. visit were all paid for. My sister had quadruple by pass and all was paid. With the exception of family travelling with the patient. You Americans have the best of everything and you still want more. Unless I was a multi millionaire you could not pay me enough to leave in your country. Let President Obama do want he thinks is best for almost all Americans - not just the elite. PAY MORE TAXES ON EVERYTHING AND LIVE BETTER FOR IT. By doing this you may not be able to pay the toys you want but you will be alot happier and healther. Obama is going to be the best thing that has happen to USA . Bush and Cheney almost brought you people to your knees. Wake up AMERICA.


carol kesling   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

why doesn"t liz cheney ask her FATHER some of the TOUGH questions she is asking james ??????????? would"t that be somthing to hear !!!!!!!!! thoses who live in GLASS HOUSES should NOT THROW STONES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!by the way when is her DAD GOING TO JAIL ????? ha,ha......a little waterboarding wouldnt hurt, WOULD IT ????????????????


Fred   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Interrupting is a sign of being wrong and a lowlife educated people wouldn’t do that they have class something the Cheney’s don’t have


David John   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Larry–
Why can't you control your guests' and keep them from talking over each other as Cheney continued to do when James tried to make his point; you could use the commercial break to tell them to follow the rules of courtesy or get off the air and don't come back...

David


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

There is so much more beneath the surface in the Billings case. I think that father had some very shady dealings - and his wife was probably an innocent by-stander.


Laura   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Liz Cheney is like all the other Republicans, afraid to upset the crazy birthers. Kudos to you Larry for showing the video. I was appalled to see Lou Dobbs treat it as a topic for serious discussion on his show.
Thanks for allowing Mr. Carville to "hurl a few facts at it". I imagine all the birthers are watching Hannity at 9 pm but if any are here the President's birth certificate has been posted on the web. Google it. And yes, Hawaii is a state.


Dan Trotta   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

First I want to dispute your guest who asserted that Canadian Cancer Patients die at a higher rate. Wrong. In fact Canadians and Europeans live longer than Americans by 3 years. All those countries have a universal health care system and in the case of Italy they also have free University for not only their citizens but for former Colonies citizens.

When the US spends trillions on a bail out but they can't take care of 30 million citizens when I hear from friends what they have to pay for medical care it boggles my mind that some lithite asserts that Canada has subordinate service frankly has never been here. I have always had the option as to who I would like as my Doctor never has that been a problem yet morons in the US want to bash Canada when they have no facts just conjecture pisses me off. In the US you can justify a crazy billion dollar war but you can't justify healthcare it just shows how stupid many Americans are. Americans regularly come to Canada to buy our drugs we have a flu vaccine ready for the majority the population the US doesn't have that and guess where they will be buying a lot of their vaccine. Canada.

Please have a Canadian governmental official to discuss some of these topics and please talk about Sick Kids hospital in Toronto where we have a world renown service and care second to none and please stop using Canada as an excuse. Of the G7 countries the US is the only country with no universal health care. In my opinion the zealots in the US who want all the care to themselves are not only the problem but also stall the evolution of the American society because not all men are created equally in the US some cannot get care therefore it is an infringement of their constitutional right.

Larry I watch you every night please don't have someone other than a Canadian who lives in Canada discuss health care.

Thanks


John Anthony   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

It is unbelievable that Dick Cheney's daughter speaks, in general, on political issues to protect her Daddy. It is even more unbelievable that she does not raise a question on the crazy folks who think our President was not born in America. Responsible people shut it down. Political zealots out of leadership roles spin it.


Mary Mtl   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Please Larry would you tell Liz Cheney to stop talking about our health in Canada. She lies all the way about us. And like her father she only cares about rich peoples like millionaire,,,, so Liz shut up


Rosann Moulis   July 21st, 2009 9:32 pm ET

I am watching and I am so sick of one of your guest talking over the other guest. She just plows over James Carvel and does not respect anyone on her ramblings. It was getting so bad I considered changing the channel. Keep her in line Larry... enough.


Blair Reynolds   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Larry,

Please don't invite Liz Cheney to be on your show again if you won't control her fairly. She simply won't stop talking to let James Carville make a point tonight, and constantly interrupts him when he tries. She reminds me of the old law school adage "if you have the facts pound the facts; if you don't, pound the table."


amy   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

I just want to say that Liz Cheyney sounds like an idiot, talking on and on, while clearly hearing that Larry is trying to interrupt her to get a word in edgewise. She deflates all her principles and what she stands for by not having the grace and social skills to allow someone else to share their opinion. Shame on her!


Julia Collier   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Clearly, Cheney represents the racist tone and muddle thinking of the republican party. She defended everything negative about the party. Carville represented the honest response of sensible people. Thant you Carville for pointing out that Palin represents the cream of the crop of what republicans feel is someone who is "well qualified" to be president of this country."!!! Only someone who is blinded by racism could thing that. Palin is not even close to being qualified to be governor, much less president!


wilander   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

i dont know where that woman gets her info.I am a cancer patient in Canada and I have had the best of care,radiation,chemo anr MRI,cat scan etc,Have not had long waits and it is all FREEYou should be so lucky to live in Canada,Check your facts!!!!


Susan   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Ms. Cheney needs to do her homework when it comes to our Canadian healthcare system. We have every right to choose our own doctors, including all types of specialists as well. Ms. Cheney "get it right" before you speak about my country's healthcare system!


Ruth   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Great show tonight but it is pitiful that the president inherited a mess. In trying trying to fix healthcare we will have some money spent initally. Secondly we should look at the vendors who are probably responsible for the ever increasing prices.


crmeyer   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

ENOUGH already with Liz, the most annoying, rude, and non-informative guest I've ever seen on the show. I will, as a matter of policy, immediately switch from any channel, radio station, web-site, etc. that is blaring her inane banter. Stop the Liz Madness now!!!!


Heidi   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Liz is a total liar why do you have her on. She has absolutely nothing useful to say ever.


Leon Engling   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

These people like Carville talking anout health care is worthless. They have enough money they will never be affected – they have their own doctors. As soon as I see Carville & Obama behind me in line to get care I'm on board.


mvt   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

LIZ IS RUDE, SHE DID NOT LET JAMES SPEAK.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE WELCOME. SHE SHOULD NOT BE INVITED AT THIS SHOW EVER AGAIN. WE LIKE TO HAVE RESPECTFUL DISCUSSION NOT ONESIDED SCORING OF POINTS.

IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT REPUBLICANS DO JNOT WANT OBAMA TO SUCCEED.


Jim Colston   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Larry,

Liz Cheney is fantastic; she kicked James' butt tonight and you know it. She needs to be the next Republican presidential candidate; she is super!


katie   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Please let james speak, I am tired of liz talking over him. It seems all republicans never let the other side be heard.


Richard   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Larry
Please challenge these Republican whiners who offer no alternatives and fail to step up and take responsibility for the mess they left Obama in every area of our lives.

These negative criticisms, distortions and false information these Republicans continue to whine about needs to be called out by YOU.
Play hardball !!!


Sara   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Larry, I think its great to have the views of both Rs and Ds on your show but in get nausea when either guest interrupts the other as continuously and Lix Cheney did.


Blake van den Heuvel, Ottawa, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Liz has her facts wrong. In Canada you receive any and all required tests to help diagnose an ailment, plus any required treatment or operations free of charge. My 87 year old mother was rushed to hospital a month ago with a life threatening Illness. In hospital for one week, she probable had $50K to $75K in tests/procedures performed, not to mention the cost of her stay. My father did not have to pay a cent and mom is now at home recovering. My brother lives in Florida and received 3rd degree burns attempting to put out a bush fire. He bought his own bandages and ointment to treat himself as the clinic wanted $475 dollars for each treatment visit. I won’t say that Canada’s system is perfect, but it’s better than people going bankrupt to pay their medical bills.


Karen Seabrooke   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Thank you.
Karen S.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Sheriff Morgan should go to Los Angeles and turn it around. I can't believe how efficiently he has run this investigation. He also is a very effective speaker.


Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Re: the Canadian Healthcare System. I have raised 3 children with the usual childhood diseases – plus broken bones. They were always treated with care and in good time. My sister suffered a debilitating, rare disease – supposed to die at 20 – lived to 40. My mother took care of her and received an abundant amount of care from the Quebec Government (someone came in 4 x week to bathe, etc., gov't provided wheelchair and other devices) – my sister was in intensive care so often – received the best of care from the University Hospitals in Montreal to the local regional hospitals..... Ask my mother what she thinks about the Canadian healthcare system – she is in a position to tell you!
Here, the elderly and the young are given the care and medications they need – and there are no families that go bankrupt – ask a single mother who is raising children alone with limited income what she thinks about our healthcare system.

You, Ms. Cheney, can afford healthcare – the majority of your countrymen cannot.

No system is perfect, unfortunately, when it comes to healthcare.
Bottom line: you need a doctor, you will get one – and, I do have a doctor that I chose – lives right down the street- if I need an appointment, I call – get one within a few days – and present him with my medicare card.....

And then, I go to the pharmacy and get my prescription – which I can claim on my income tax and is reimbursed. I can also get reimbursed with insurance from my employer.

Present the whole picture – not only the bad, but the exceptional.


Brian from Edmonton, Alberta Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Hi Larry

Liz Cheney has not got a clue on the Canadian Health Care System. People such as Liz talk too much without thinking. My brother in law moved because of work to the US about 7 years ago to work for a very good company with one of the better health plans in the US. He compares the two countries and states he would take the Canadian system anyday over the the private system in the states. I can get immediate care anytime, anyday, and pick not only my gp but any specialist I need to see.


Dee   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Re: the healthcare debate tonight (Carvel and Cheny) – I cannot understand why no one is suggesting that we entirely remove the healthcare cost burden from employers. I think we should all be in one big pool and share the costs. Our employers would be globally more competitive if healthcare is UN-linked from employment.


mitzi   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Obama needs to turn over the birth certificate,,,period,, end of discussion.


Jane   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Comments about the Canadian Health System are totally inaccurate. With the exception of an emergency room at a hospital or a minor emergency clinic where there would be a doctor on call, I've always chosen my own doctor. When expecting a child my family doctor referred me to to the Obstetrician of my choice. Opponents of Obama's attempt to reform U.S. healthcare should get their facts straight !


Gail   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

As far as i'm concerned, Liz Cheney is a criminal and a thief just like her father because she fails to admit that her father and Bush STOLE from the American people and caused WAR with the Middle East. Please let Liz Cheney know that the reason why the republican party and some American people have a problem with Obama's citizenship is because they cannot believe that America has a BLACK president.


LyCA   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Larry. No Michael Jackson tonight? Hallelujah! Hallelujah! The man is dead and will always be the King of Pop and his creative work will live forever despite this "witch hunt" by some elements of the media


Danny Carico Florida   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Larry,
This Carville dude is a little mouthy and openly rude dude. Sarah Pailn
has done nothing to deserve his shallow comments.

I believe Mr Carville DEMOCRAT needs to shut up and follow the COMMON SENCE proven trail of progress that Sarah Pailn has proven to work in her great State of Alaska.

I think only the democrats need to be responsable for the massive quadropled debt they are making.
REMEMBER only the Obamas and followers belive that you can pay your way out of Debt on BORROW MONEY.
Carville that is just how smart you and the and the croneys you support really are, you are instilling it more every time you open your mouth.

THINK ABOUT BOY.


Elaine Adelson   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

I just watched Larry King's show with James Carville and Liz Cheney. Ms Chenny did not stop talking and Larry did not try hard enough to stop her. James was not given the time to respond. She went on and on, interrupting James. I will not ever watch this show again with Liz Cheney on it. She does not know when to stop. Both guests should be given equal time!


ellin   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Someone needs to tell lynn cheney that the Republcans are not the party of national security. How's this for a fact:

Republicans like to say they're the party of National Security, but they only spent $4 million on investigating 9/11 and they tried to stop the 9/11 Commission from forming, however; they spent $ 100 million investigating the Monica Lewinsky situation in the oval office. Conservatives don't care about national security if they spent 25x times more money investigating a romance in the oval office than a terror attack that killed 3000 Americans.


Ellen Holm   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Not sure how that Liz Cheney got where she is...perhaps through her father ?She certainly does not know what she is talking about when it comes to Canadian Medicare. Although we are used to ignorance about our country by Americans, this one is too important to ignore. We all have every right to go to the Doctor of our choice and are referred to specialist whenever necessary. Perhaps she should learn the facts. Thank you.


Judy R   July 21st, 2009 9:34 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs a reality check. She's enamored with her own voice and hears no one but herself. Her arguments didn't cut it when her father made them. She, along with Palin, should go quietly into the night.


ross   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I might further add that Liz Chaney's Father is rather wealthy, one main reason she does not have to worry about her present and future health care needs or costs.


KC   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Can CNN please schedule a show to allow James Carville a chance to answer the questions put to him tonight – without Liz Cheney talking all over him? That segment deserved debate but her constant talking over him ruined the show. Larry – please if you say that's enough and she keeps talking, turn off the mic, you know – like your producers did
on James Carville before the break when he couldn't answer the question put to him!

By the way, I'm British and have lived here for 6 years. If someone offered me the same care I got there for higher taxes, I'd take it in a second! In fact, I'd drop my current UHC "coverage" for it.


Von W   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Dear Larry. Please don't have Lynne Cheney on again until she learns some manners. I have nothing against her but I wanted to hear the other guy too and she was repeatedly rude and interrupting. Thanks.


John T - Toronto   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Ms Cheney is spinning non-factual information regarding Canadian health care. The system does not discriminate by social status and all citizens have the right to health care. No one is denied and people are not dying due to lack of care as suggested. Choose your own doctor?, you could go to ten walk in clinics a day interviewing doctors. Healthcare may be a cost to the tax system but it pales in comparison to the sub-prime issue!! But then again what's more important, someone's health or the all mighty dollar !!
The medicare issue in the states needs to be resolved before a greater social divide then already exists runs out of control.


yolanda   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Liz Cheney has 5 children, was the favorite child & is very rich & a spoiled brat ! period...she lies & is trying to brainwash all of us, not a chance...by the way, Mary is my favorite sister....bet she never sees Mary...


Alison May   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Hi, I just have to say that Liz Cheney hasn't got a clue about Canada's healthcare system which is FAR superior to that in the USA. Sorry fellow Americans! I live in Kingston, ON and have a wonderful doctor and I CAN choose my medications! We can go to our doctors whenever we need to. Our healthcare is free and is paid for with our taxes. It is an enviable healthcare system, just ask any American who has come to visit and talked with a Canadian. We do not DARE cross the border without health insurance!
Even though Canada has a great healthcare system, it is not the best in the world. There are wait times for certain procedures but in a society where everyone has access to care, not only the wealthy, that is to be expected. Some people choose to go south to receive immediate care and they pay for it. Up here in Canada, we have read the statistics in the USA and know we are far better off here, thanks!
You keep letting the pharmaceutical companies and other corporations dictate and we'll go on living longer and healthier!


Dolores Abramson   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I am a Canadian who is the wife and also the mother of two successful cardiologists. The misinformation re our Canadian system is truly shocking! We all choose our own doctors and switch to other doctors if we wish. The Canadian system is NOT a capitation system but a fee for service system where doctors are paid by the government based on a standard fee schedule . The government does NOT control the doctors choice or type of care as IS the case in the USA 's HMOs. No one is turned away,from treatment, in Canada because of lack of funds. My husband arranged for a heart transplant for a patient of his and there was no cost to the recipiant who was of very limited means and thus was able to have his life extended without concern for cost. In our system, the poorest and the richest patients have equal access to health care.


Lee miles   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Step one: open up more medical schools. Create more Drs and this will bring down the costs of Heath care.

Simply put: the AMA is the strongest Union in this country.

There are many talented people that can't afford nor get admitted to this special Club.

More Drs. = lower costs of health care.

Lee Miles
Rocky Hill, CT


Jen   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

urgh! liz chaney is a clone of her father. nothing but crap outta her mouth when she opens it. oh please, don't run for office, we've already had 8 years of your fathers crap-a-do and this is why we're in this mess right now......... war mongers!

and to the redneck in the audience still hollering about President Obama's birth certificate..."GO GET A LIFE LADY", you people are so stupid and rediculous...


Tom, New York   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Why do you feel that you have to bring Liz Cheney on TV? Who gives her any authority to speak?


Mary   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Larry, instead of letting people like Liz Cheney lie about the health care system, why not investigate the facts about the many Canadians like Marie on this page who have a perfectly good experience with their health care system.


Erin   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Oh gee Diane from Ocala, Florida I am getting a really funny visual of a short, fat, bald man in prison stripes and that mouthpiece sitting on the other side of the glass talking non-stop over the prison phone! Thanks for making me laugh!


Ruth   July 21st, 2009 9:35 pm ET

That woman was very rude and she was not making any sense. It was not a fair conversation.


Andrea   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

It is upsetting me that this woman Ms. Cheney is making statements about Canadian health care that she knows nothing about. Where is she getting her information? I'm Canadian and I get to choose any doctor that I wish to have. Canadians do not have to wait months to get medical attention. I can tell her that because I live here! the sound bites have been about one or two incidents where someone has had issues with the length of time they had to wait for treatment for serious illness. That happens anywhere in the world. Is she telling us that that does not happen under the present system in her country. Ms. Cheney, until you and the rest of the Republicans know your facts, please shut up about Canadian health care. Our system helps people who could not othrwise afford very expensive treatments.
The Republicans are so against this for two reasons: It is being put forward by one of the greatest presidents the US has seen in decades and 2, it will benefit the poorest in the nation.

Andrea,
Ontario, Canada


J Gleed   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Larry, I'm a Canadian living and working happily in the USA for the last few years. If I hear another ignorant, inflammatory statement about the Canadian health care system I'm gonna flip my lid. It's pure sound byte style propaganda. I can tell you first hand, that the only time I have EVER been told what doctor I could or could not use was when I got my US health insurance and had to make sure my doctors would accept it. Not to mention the chaos of trying to submit claims forms. The system down here is confusing and dysfunctional. I'm not saying the Canadian system is perfect, but I assure you and the citizens of the USA that you will never have the government telling you what to do with your body, or what doctor to see. The comments I'm hearing are ridiculous.


Helen   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Gerry, I think her name is Liz Cheney... I didn't realize her leanings were so right wing!


Ashami Aryeetey   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Larry, Iam a Canadian Citizen, and a nurse practitioner I have lived in Britain and in Canada and I will choose both health systems over the American system. Why because they stress preventative medicine to a curative one. Having a national health system will promote preventative care which will help to diagnose diseases early and thereby cut the costs of treating people with life thraetening diseases which costs extremely high. A few of us came from Canada to practice here , almost two -thirds of them have gone back, why beacuse we see that the health care system does not care for the average person.
I applaud Obama for trying to do this. Americans will be wise to support him.


Dee   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

I think that Ms. Cheney should get her facts straight about the Canadian health care. I am a canadian, have always been able to choose my family doctor as well as my specialists.


Linda Lever   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

I am listening to your program from Canada and I am getting very upset. Where do your guests get these stupid ideas from? The problem seems to be if you say a lie enough times it becomes truth. Our health care in Canada is far from perfect but we do choose our own doctors and in consultation with our doctors we choose our medications. We are NOT dictated to by the government. None of my family members have had long waits for necessary health care and none have had problems seeing the doctor of their choice. We undoubtly have problems but not the ones you are talking about.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

EO - truce tonight? The LAPD would know what to do with Sheriff Morgan. He's actually doing his JOB in getting to the bottom of things.


Peg Hogarth   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

From: Tillsonburg, ON, Canada

Dear Larry;
I am incensed by those people who are determined to denigrate the Canadian Health Care System. Most of the criticisms have no basis in fact.
- in Canada we are given a blank cheque that we can cash at any time,anywhere in Canada and for any amount and we cannot be turned away;
- we do pay higher taxes to cover our health care but my sister lives in Michigan and she envies our system greatly – (she pays more for what she receives);
- we chose our own doctors but if our doctor is unavailable another doctor is always available to see us (granted we still need many more physicians in certain areas of the country);
- I was diagnosed with breast cancer and within two weeks I had all of the diagnostics done, followed by a mastectomy and since it had been detected early by yearly mammograms, i required no further treatment;
- for elective foot surgery, I waited 3 weeks;
-My husband had a pacemaker inserted two days after the need was identified;
- we wait for no emergency diagnstics or treatments – if not an imergency we may have to wait a couple of weeks for a CAT scan or an MRi;
I could go on but I feel better already having had this opportunity to set the record straight.
PH


Karen Lee   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

RUDE! RUDE! RUDE! Liz Cheney should take after HER MOTHER –not her war-mongering FATHER!

I have never seen a better example of someone in desperate need of GAGGING .. than HER.

LARRY: If your guests behave as BADLY AS LIZ CHENEY DID -=- TURN OFF THEIR MICS.

It is PATHETIC OF YOU to let them be so RUDE. Nobody enjoys watching such an exhibition!

ARE U SUCH A COWARD THAT YOU ARE AFRAID TO "restrain" guests that are SO RUDE? You give them a "warning" – and then you cut their mics. It's as SIMPLE as that.


Bee Jay   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

As a Canadian I am sick and tired of the people in the U.S. who are telling lies about our Canadian health care system. It is not a perfect system, but I would rather have what we have than what the Americans do not have. I am someone who is a cancer survivor and I could not have asked for quicker treatment, or the type of treatment I received, from the moment I was diagnosed with breast cancer years ago. Recently I had a scare, and again, treatment could not have been quicker. Listening to Liz Cheney tonight, I have something to say to her....do some research before telling lies about our system. We are free to choose any doctor we want to see, and we don't live in fear of losing everything we have because of medical bills. Can you Americans say that? That woman who says she is a Canadian and is discouraging you from wanting a system similar to ours, there has to be more to her story than is being told in the ad. I am really sick and tired of the lies that the Republicans and their followers are spreading about our health care. People, do not listen to them. I have also been treated by excellent doctors here.


California Gold   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Liz Cheney is offensive. Mr. King, you must be more aggressive in handling this type of personality. Your program devolved to a verbal slug fest reminiscent of a school yard tussle with a badly behaving 8 year old who can't control herself. If she must be given microphone time then please do your audience a huge favor and have her on one segment and then follow with Jim. FWIW Mr. Carville's facts and statistics were correct. Additionally my experience with public health service in the UK and Canada is first rate. Additionally as a US veteran Ms. Cheney's statements about government run medical care was outrageous. Shame on her.


Jeanne Marken   July 21st, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Hi Larry,

Really enjoy your show. Disturbed this evening by Ms. Cheney's uninformed remark about Canadian medical plan. NO govt. has ever told me what doctor to see. I have always chosen my own. By the way I am a senior of 72 yrs. More fear mongering by the Republicans?

Sincerely,

Jeanne Marken


art schoen   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Someone tell Lynn Cheney - to put her brain in gear before opening her mouth !!
FACT-inCANADA
WE DO pick our own Doctors and our system does work. I personally have 3 dr's - have had 2 broken backs - had open heart surgery and other issues - have raised 5 children my wife has given birth to -- they also of course used Dr's - WE NEVER PAID ONE RED CENT FOR OUR MEDICAL USE'S !!.---– I also had a stroke in the U.S.A. and the Cdn. Govt. paid for it ALL.!!
I'm shocked that someone of Larry King's stature would not set her straight during the interview .
Art


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Damn Larry...last night Iris and tonight Liz Cheney...I'm coming prepared tomorrow with eye bleach and ear plugs!!!

***waves @ EO**


maria   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

i am reading all these postings by canadians- amazing how misinformed liz cheney and so many others like her are. on your show tonight, she was quite simply, awful.

feminists dissapproved of sarah palin because sarah palin is the antithesis of progress for women- much like liz cheney appears to be. and why do people continue believing palin is pro-life. this is a woman who shoots wolves from a helicopter for sport. aren't wolves allowed the right to live? or do they not count? palin is an opportunist- and not a very smart one at that.

cnn- larry- anderson- please – do us all a favor and bring the truth about canadian and british health care citizens... have a panel of real citizens speak truthfully about their actual experiences with health care in their own countries.

anyone who thinks we have choice in this country about our health care are deeply mistaken- the only people who have choice in this country are those who can afford the choice- and that number is dwindling by the days.


cate comerford   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Larry – you need a 'mute button' for rude guests like Liz Cheney.


Von W   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Sorry, thats Liz Cheney not Lynne.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

We need more Sheriff Morgan's. Good for you Sheriff~!! I believe in the death penalty and so does Florida.


J.Moore- California   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Why was Liz Cheney invited on the show? And a follow up question why couldn't she have been muted while James was speaking? I'd rather hear from a man who knows what he is talking about rather than the daughter from the last failed administration.


Lynn   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

And I should add that I don't understand that fixation with Sarah Palin, she should stay at home and take care of her kids and grandkid!!She is no Hillary Clinton ......


Dawne   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

As a Canadian viewer, it never ceases to amaze me how some of your guests claim to know about the Canadian lifestyle and political system and how little they actually know. I would suggest that Liz Cheney should check her facts regarding the Canadian health care system before shooting it down. While it isn't without it's flaws, it does allow medical access to all. And, contrary to her statement of we Canadians not being able to choose our own doctors, this is totally false. We are not drones who are directed to seek medical assistance from a specific doctor or clinic. We are free thinking and intelligent people who have a right of choice no different from your choice in America. For an individual who has been raised by one of America's so called "political elite" families, it is unbelievable that she can present her self with such mislead authority. I enjoy your show, but would greatly appreciate listening to more credible panelists when discussing issues of the Canadian nature.


Abby Firstenberg-Merker   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Sarah Palin has gotten enough attention already.
As far as Joe Jackson is concerned, he feels somewhat guilty over Michael's death. There is more than meets the eye with him.


Mickey   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

As a Canadian who have lived in three different provinces, I have always been free to go to the doctor and/or hospital of MY choice.
Ms. Cheney should do her homework BEFORE she makes inaccurate statements about our medical care system which mislead Larry King's viewers.


Linda LeBourdais   July 21st, 2009 9:37 pm ET

As a Canadian I am angered at the falsehoods being directed at the American peole by supposed pundits who are totally ill iformed about the Canadian Health Care system. Liz Cheney is categorially wrong when she states that Canadians cannot choose their doctors and cannot get timely medical treatment. 33 Million Canadians cannot be wrong! We prize our health care system and fail to understand that a country such as the United Stats fails to provide healthcare for some 46 million of their fellow citizens. Many of your people go broke in order to access helthcre. Wake up before it is too late.


Alex   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

I'm not a big fan of Obama myself, but those yapping about him not being a true American should really think hard about it. Perhaps they should let the Native American Indians govern them since they're the true Americans. You people are just European outcasts with an attitude problem.


Julie   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

The next time Liz Cheney is invited on your show, PLEASE demand that ground rules be set so she doesn't continue to talk while your other guest is trying to speak. Her rudeness really shines through when she continues to argue and speak while you are asking questions, Larry. She is extremely rude and I don't enjoy your show when you have guests of this caliber on.


Carol Berry   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

As a Canadian living in Ottawa Ontario I wish to clarify that Liz Cheney is completely wrong when she states in Canada we can't choose our own Doctor or have surgeries. I have always chosen my own Dr and the only surgeries I know of that our Insurance doesn't cover is surgery that is cosmetic. I would also like to point out that when we go to the hospital for surgery or to have a baby we won't have to lose our home or be in debt for the rest of our life to pay for it. Before peop-le start make these statements they should have their information and facts right. These kind of falacies she is stating does tend to annoy me>


HelenGardner - California   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

This is my first blog, and I think that Ms. Chaney is very rude and should be told to wait her turn to talk and not interupt anyone if she doesn't like what they have to say.


Verna Bastarache   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

As a very proud Canadian I would like to know where they are getting the info on the Canadian Medical System. I live not far from the border to Maine and we have dozens of people heading this way to fill perscriptions here because they are much cheaper here than in the states.

Also, my husband and I have always picked our own Drs. ... we can also go to our Dr`s office and NOT be charged for the visit. We are not charged for hospital stays either. I really wish that people would get their facts straight before getting on National Television and talking about Our Medicare System!!!


Angela   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Hi Larry,
To start off, I am a very proud Canadian and extremely proud and fortunate to live in a country that has an excellent health care system. I am watching the discussion on health care and am very disappointed that someone as educated as Cheny is so unaware of the realities of our great Canadian health care system. We do get to choose our doctors, we do have state of the art and innovative care and we make sure that all of our citizens are entitled to it. Republicans are taking contextual exceptions in Canadian healthcare and distorting the facts. I am hoping that we put the profit-making intentions of insurance companies aside and realize that universal health care is a right for all citizens and not just those who are fortunate enough to afford it!


Sacha   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Regarding the birth certificate demanded to prove Obama is an American citizen, isn't it true that if one of your parents is an American citizen you automatically have citizenship regardless of where you are born?


Pauline   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Liz Chaney"s comments about the Canadian Health Care System is dead wrong. I live in Toronto, Canada and we have one of the best health care systems in the world.

You do get to choose your own doctor, no cost for doctor visits, hospital stay, however you do have to pay for your own medicine. The medicine /treatment is decided upon by the doctor YOU choose.

All diagnostic tests are ordered by your doctor that you choose since you the patient do not have that knowledge. Based on the type of test, your doctor's office will book the appointment for you or you can book it yourself depending on the nature of the test being ordered.

Your doctor will recommend a surgeon if you need one, however, you have the right to choose your own if you have enough iknowledge to do so. The Government is not involved in this process at all. The doctors, whether family phyiscian, surgeon, etc. gets paid by the Government. This is the only role that Government has in this.

As far as surgeries are concerned, get your facts straight before you make comments. I have had surgeries here, choose my own surgeon and never had to wait. As well my hospital stay did not cost me a dime.

This is a fair system for everyone and all Americans (poor or rich) should be happy that President Obama is trying to implement something like this there.

PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.


Virginia   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Dear God, Please keep Liz Cheney off CNN.


Richard   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Larry
Schedule a show with James and Bill Mahr on at the same time because they both ROCK!


Lilly   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Liz Cheney is extremely rude. She repeats herself and doesn't let anyone else speak. Please find someone else to express the Republican viewpoint.


Jim   July 21st, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Larry needs a mute button if he can't get his guests to shut up and provide equal time. I like the sports talk show Around the Horn because the moderator has a mute button. Makes for a much better discussion. Liz Cheney needed to be muted constantly for a fair discussion.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Hey for the Canooks....

PatientsUnitedNow.com is saying people have to wait for cancer care/testing. Just thought would send that in case we get different commercials.


Karim   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I was not happy that both of you and James let Liz chenney to just take over the show and just say things are not factual and not supported by most Americans. Please next time when she your show be in control and do not let her to intrupt other people when they are speaking and wait for her turn.

Thanks


Beverly - Toronto Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Hi Larry
i am Listening to Liz Cheney and she has it all wrong. Here in Canada we can pick any doctor we want. The government has no say on who or when we see someone. I am 50 years old and I am just an average Canadian women and I can tell you with no uncertain terms we have no problem in picking any doctor we want.
I get great care, my care has never been denied or delayed and I would like to talk to you live about this any time
Thanks Bev


Angela Brown   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to keep her mouth shut. She complains about others when she is the worst. She ruined the interview. I really enjoy listening to James Carville. If you need to partner him with someone bring in his wife. She is good too.

Also I would really like to see a program on the health care without poltics. We need to know what we are getting into.


Brian   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

People are controlled more by fear of the unknown. Liz Cheney is stating we won't get to choose our doctors like in Canada but you do get to choose your doctor. People like Liz who do not research this further are missing factual data. Fear is being used to not approve a better healthcare system. I work in the insurance business where profit is found in insurance and I'm for this revised healthcare system. I do not think it is fair to earn a profit off your misfortune by paying healthcare premiums and declining your pre-existing condiitions. Many of my peers do not want to see this 'socialization' of medicine and in further discussion with them individually, it is because it will take money out of their pockets. I'm sorry but I am willing to earn less money so that everyone can have healthcare. I will still earn an income. Furthermore, as a private small business owner of less than 10 employees, I can afford a higher tax rate for such need and it won't put me out of business. To further this, should we also privatize the police and fire departments? We pay taxes for the benefit of all people. Taxes are not a bad thing as we do get a benefit from what it provides and it also provides jobs. Why can't we all see that maybe this is a better system than the broken one we have now and try it out? We all pay for healthcare for those who don't have it anyway. The higher costs paid by those who have health insurance is subsidizing the doctors and hospitals for those who don't have insurance as some can't turn patients away. So why not create some more responsibility for those without insurance and less for those who have insurance. I will still get the same healthcare I'm getting now.


Mickey   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

CORRECTED : As a Canadian who has lived in three different provinces, I have always been free to go to the doctor and/or hospital of MY choice.
Ms. Cheney should do her homework BEFORE she makes inaccurate statements about our medical care system which mislead Larry King’s viewers


Arob23   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think Liz Cheney is a rude person and likes to hear herself talk all that garbage about the Obama Administration....She does not know when to listen to another person talking who politely gave her the opportunity to speak when it was her turn... The lack of listening explains why she has so much of stuff to say that does not make any sense....she needs to practice listening and being courteous to others who she does not agree with instead of talking over the person...she needs not to be on this show, if she fails to respect and be courteous to another person on the panel because they do not share her views.... James Carville is a real gentleman and shows utmost respect beyond what Liz Cheney has demonstrated....


Jason Klip   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Whoa there. A comment was just made that in Canada I cannot choose my own Doctor, choose my own medicine and that people die of cancer!

What a statement! I've moved all over Canada and each time have been able to choose my own doctor. At no point was any government employee looking over my shoulder. Doctors are chosen by will and by recommendation of the person, not the government. If your bedside manner sucks, you wont get patients!

As for medication, I personally leave it to my Doctor to decide for me as I figure he (or she) is suitably qualified to make that decision for me. If however, I feel there is a medication that would better suit me, I have no reservations asking for it, knowing that it will be prescribed. I do love the fact though that I know my doctor is not forcing a specific brand of medicine on me because they are being paid to push it – also, my Doctor has no problems telling me I dont need medication if they dont think it will be worth while.

Last but not least, this cancer point. Shame on you! I lost my grandmother two weeks ago to cancer, but by your statement if she had been in America she would still be with us?
She's been in and out of remission for the last 10 years. At no point was she denied care; indeed in her final days they gave her more care. All without cost to her (other than tax dollars). At no point did the government turn around and tell her they were refusing care because this was her xth time with cancer. At no point did they say "we will cover this cancer and all previous ones, but if you get another type youre on your own" like an insurance company would. Indeed the governement could not do enough for her, and all the other times.

I myself have had to use our system on a number of occasions and never once felt that care was being withheld because of costs, or government control or other excuse put out by some in the american media right now. Sure, there are Canadians who complain of our system, but last I check they make up a very small percentage of our system; you know the same people who see conspiracy in everything.

I really hope that America sees the way with a government run health care system. Yeah, its not the best. There are wait times for non-critical patients, I may have to wait a while to get a test because the three people ahead of me are dying of their condition while I am meerly uncomfortable. However, the pros of this type of system far outweigh the cons and I know that if I get sick, I can simply walk to the hospital, show my card and get my care. Now, if I want a nose job or something, sure I've gotta pay for it, but there is none of this "call the insurance company and make sure I'm covered". The needs of the many people. The needs of the many.


Sandra Burke   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Why are you (CNN) and the other media always putting down our excellent healthcare system here in canada-They put these so called canadians on your ads putting down our system well i am Canadian and never had to wait or be on a waiting list to see a specialist -everyone I know has never had to wait so STOP with the ads if you are very ill ex.-cancer etc you are seen right away why are you lying?????As for what Cheneys, daughter said on your Larry King tonight was a absolute LIE.We choose our own doctor and its FREE-also free are hospital operations of all kinds free shots free everything OBAMA IS RIGHT you Yanks don,t know what you are talking about when it comes to our system and the british system I have never had to wait for any specialist and I have seen alot .maybe way up in the Yukon may have a wait because of logistics!!!We canadians are sick of this dissing our excellent healthcare we don,t have to pay for anything free flu shots etc emergency room visits The republicians don,t like it because your pharmacies are the richest and they couldn,t stand it if you had our system I talk to alot of Americans who would love to live here we have the best doctors and we can even elect to what hospital we choose so PLEASE STOP LYING AND PUTTING THOSE NEGATIVE ADS ON-its not right get the real FACTS and hip hip horrah for OBAMA better than what you had-Obama would have my vote anytime and why don,t you change your voting ways we vote by popular vote works the best no recounting here -Born in England but raised a canuck thank-you for letting me have my say I needed to get it off my chest Thanks once again,Sandra also a fan of your news oh i also forgot to say my husband of 35 years Wayne had a right knee replacement and all he had to wait was 1 month done by the best doctor as well9free of course) so I hope you talk about what real Canadians have to say -Cheers! I also hope you discuss what i have said the TRUTH!!!!!


Mary Mtl   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Watching Liz Cheney tonight I look at her nose and suddenly , I imagine the nose of pinocchio exactly the same' imagine that her nose is getting longer every time she speak


celtic lady in Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Liz Cheny is driving me CRAAAZZZZYYYY
I am recovering from surgery which I recieved on Friday in our Canadian system. I don't know what huge deathly wait lists she is talking about. I was scheduled for surgery two weeks after seeing a specialist of MY CHOICE......to deal with a possible CANCER.......I loved my care.
Thank you to all the great medical professionals in London, Ontario, Canada.....The best care ever......and the cost was free.....
Thank you to Canada for FATASTIC HEALTH CARE that is effective and free.
Get it right LIz
Angry in Canada


Kim - Toronto, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Although Liz Cheney appears to be a very intelligent woman, her facts are totally incorrect regarding the Canadian Health Care System. Presently, we are able to choose not only our health care practioner (doctor) but also we can choose to receive care at any hospital, with no fee. This is not new in Canada but has been this way for decades. Perhaps Liz Cheney should verify her facts before speaking publicly. The United States could benefit greatly from such a system.


Madeleine Monet   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Lynn Cheney is uitolerable. She's rude, offensively impolite, she doesn't stop interrupting, and doesn't get that she turns the program into a muddy mush – with nothing to be understood and no real point being made. There's no possible clarity with a guest like her. I just changed channel so irritated I was by her. But I appreciated how Carville let her speak, without interrupting, and how he reminded her time and again that she was being inconsiderate. Why not get someone who understands the art of discussion?


Erin   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

That whole case with the parents in Florida is just plain bizarre. I wonder could the people who did this been mad they had kids that were removed from them out? When you take someone's child from them it really creates a lot of anger.


Susan   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Response to the lady who demands to know why we are ignoring President Obama's birth certificate. For the same reason we are ignoring her – most of us are pretty sure she's a Martian and a Republican one at that.


texassam   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Liz or Lynn?? ....another Cheney that Larry tried to get to shut up tonite!
It was totally ridiculous. She's probably still talking. Alot of words but no substance.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

Black in America 2? What about White in America? I am white and that is racism~anyone care?


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

lol Jim

or maybe a buzzer that shocks them ;)


Deb   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I worked at a famous Cancer Center in Houston, TX. Treatment was only given if a patient's insurance was paid up to the minute. Frequently, patients were turned away from needed treatment unless they could produce payment-either insurance, credit card or cash.
The supposed Canadian woman in the ad running on CNN states she "received world class treatment" here in the US. No one in this country receives cancer treatment for free. Where is the "keeping them honest" team?


Jean Blackburn   July 21st, 2009 9:40 pm ET

I like to hear opposing views on the different subjects; however, Lynn Cheney is the most inconsiderate "interrupter" of anyone I've seen on Larry King's show in the many years I've watched it. I will not watch any segment with her in it again.


gym/minnesota   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

does this health care bill only cover us citizens or does it cover all non citizens in the US and also illlegals in this country?


Julia Sims   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Americans owe it to themselves and each other to educate themselves about European national health care. I lived in Spain & France for 5 years and found I held many misconceptions. There are plenty of facts to debate without the need to use scare tactics. Would love to see you do a show interviewing Europeans discussing their health care programs.


Katy   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

I think Ms. Chaney should do her research before she speaks out against the Canadian health care system, most specifically that Canadians don't get to choose their own doctor of their medicine. Nothing could be further from the truth. Canadians do choose their doctor. No one regulates who you can and cannot see. We choose if we want generic or brand named meds. Get a second opinion...no problem. I suggest CNN do a report on differences, pros and cons of the Canadian vs American health care system because there has been a lot of misinformation presented by your guests today.


R. Qatar   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Not sure why Shefiff Morgan takes on news coverage of the case when it was he who made provocative comments shortly after the murders.
Morgan told a news conference on Sunday he was anxious to share more details about the case because "it's going to be a humdinger." The next day, he compared the killings of the couple known for adopting children with special needs to the 1959 slayings chronicled by Truman Capote in the book "In Cold Blood."


kelly   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

LARRY, LARRY, LARRY, if I hear one more politician say that up here in Canada our government picks our doctors i'm going to scream!! That is absolutely untrue and there is no interference in our care, when i want to go to the doctor i go! I have never had to deal with anyone in the government EVER regarding our health care!! not only that but I can go to any hospital I want to. The truth is that nobody here dies because we can only go to certain hospitals or doctors! Americans need to do their own homework and stop taking the word of the politicians if they want the real truth! Our system may not be perfect but it is far from the nightmare its being made out to be. Thanks Larry!


Ann,Virginia   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

That was the rudest woman who kept interupting you & Carville.Even after you called her on it several times she just kept interupting,then I saw a banner at the bottom of your screen that told me who she was.Now I know why she was so rude & obnoxious...like father-like daughter.Please don't waste America's time having her on to discuss anything again.She doesn't discuss she just gets her point in & runs her mouth while you & your other guest are trying to talk.I have never seen anyone so utterly rude.


julienln   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Question for Ms. Liz Cheney:

Why is the government-sponsored health insurance option bad for people who cannot currently afford health care insurance when it is being used for both our politicians (including yourself and your father) and the military?


Canadian patient   July 21st, 2009 9:41 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to learn to listen and stop interrupting, she is so busy trying to score political points that she totally misses the truth.

She also needs to get her facts straight.

Take it from me, a patient here In Canada, we all can choose our own doctors!

We have full control over our health care choices.

While our system is not perfect it does ensures that each individual has full access to care regardless of social economic status.

Instead of focusing on mortality rates of Canadian cancer patients she should concentrate her efforts toward improving the overall mortality rate of Americans especially those who can't get health care insurance.

The political rhetoric and lies she spouts does nothing towards fixing the health care system for the average American.


Sam   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

One more Canadian voice to tell you, Liz Cheney doesn't have a clue about Canadian Health Care – or even worse she knows but is lying about it.
We chose our own Doctors. I have never spoken to anyone about treatment other than my Doctor. My Doctor decides with me what treatment or tests are needed and he simply bills the government. Doctors in Canada are not government employees but most are in private practice.

So much misinformation and outright lies being told. Take a look at the Health Care system world rankings and other stats posted by John M above – don't let the special interests mislead you.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I would like to see Obama's birth certificate. Mmmm.. Why is he hiding it?


Verna in Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

I just heard Lyn Cheney say that in the Canadian Medical system one cannot chose ones own Doctor. and some else say treatment is denied...this is absolutely untrue, we can chose our own G.P. ,Specialist and Hospital when compliciated surgery is necessay. A relative of mine was diagnoised with Bile duct cancer on June 30th/09 , a stent was put in immediately and she will undergo the very compex "Wipple" surgery with the top surgeon in this field for this procedure on July 30th/09 with no cost to the patient outside our tax dollars. The second falasy is that our Government comes between the patient and his Doctor....there is no difference in your HMO's and the Government...in fact our Government is less involved than your HMO's, it doesn't dictate what procedure they will cover ....the Doctor is the one who has the final say. Furthermore ,the Canadian lady currently featured on one of the frequent ads aired in the U.S. against theCanadian medical system did have her surgey done in Arizona ...she had to borrow money from friends and took a second mortgage on her house to get it done. She is being paid by a special interest group in the U.S. for that ad. Did anybody bother to check with her Doctor to hear the truth about her wait time to see a specialist? I don't think so! It'd time that this kind of propaganda from your Government officials and special interest groups stop...it fits into the same catagory as the people who are told that your President is not an American citizan or is a Muslim...really "come on" people of America...demand the truth!


susan   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Larry, why don't you have a Canadian on to talk about health care in Canada? It might be nice to listen to someone who actually knows what they're talking about. I've noticed many of your Canadian viewers commenting here about how happy they are with their health care. If you can interview Liz Cheney countless times, don't you think you owe it to us to get the truth from someone who has some authority? Would appreciate it.


Sue Skinner   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Perhaps, before going on international television, Ms. Cheney might like to read about how the Canadian healthcare sytem works. She states, matter of factly, that Canadians cannot choose their doctors nor their own medicine. I am a Canadian and we Canadians are free to choose our own doctors and work with our family physicians and specialists to determine the most appropriate medicine. The Canadian healthcare system is free to each of us in that, when we go to the doctor, we show our health card and there is no cost. The system is funded by a percentage of the taxes each Canadian pays. The system may not be perfect but it is a far cry better than the US system. It is all about money and corporate greed in the US, not what's best for the US citizen. Ms. Cheney is just another example of why so many around the world use the descriptive, 'Ignorant American'. Larry, please don't let Ms. Cheney get away with these erroneous statements!'


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Oh, snap! Larry's going to talk about the Joe Jackson interview next!


Elizabeth Lee   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Does Liz Chaney even k now where Canada is??. We have the best health care system in the world and we do get to choose our own doctors.I chose the orthopedic surgeon to perform my knee replacement surgery last Fall and eight months ago I chose the surgeon who would perform the lumpectomy I needed after being diagnosed with breast cancer and I still get to hold on to my private insurances.

Before people like Liz Chaney get on international television before millions of people they should get their facts straight!!
EL


ross   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

regarding Joe Jackson and his comments on making no mistakes parenting. This is impossible, we all make mistakes, and he is no different. I think his major motive in life today is money, and I'm sure he will be after Micheals as it becomes available. I think his life is far from perfect and it appears there is a distance between him and most of his Family. He lives in Vegas, his wife and Family in LA. There is something wrong here. I feel for him in some ways. I'd rather have a modest amount of money to live on and my dead child and Family back. He seemed a little shady on your show last night Larry..... How much more money do you need Joe?....


Marcie   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I am Canadian and Liz Cheney showed her ignorance by providing Americans with lies about the Canadian health care system. Why in the world does she think that we don't get to choose our own doctors and medical treatments? That is simply not true. I love our health care system here in Canada!


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Sam is working for the Democrates~NO to Universal Healthcare~


Suzanna Hayes   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

Larry! Love the show, but I grind my teeth every time you have Liz Cheney on. She tries to dominate and will not let James Carville finish a sentence. She must have learned this tactic from Dad. Next time use the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Betty Maki   July 21st, 2009 9:43 pm ET

I am a Canadian, Liz Cheney is total wrong about our Canadian Health Care. My husband had a stroke last Jan, with many people waiting is the Energency room, my husband was admitted immediately. He had every test need within the first half hour, and that included a MRI. Anyone with a life threatening illness goes to the front of the line. My nephew was diagnosed with bowel cancer in Feb, threatment started immediately. I can see any doctor I want. My doctor recommends a specialist if I need one. My Govenment only pays the bills. Great Show Larry.


kathy fr Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Larry why did you have james carville on he couldn't get a word in; I was dissappointed that you didn't tell her to just plain shut up! DID YOU AGREE WITH HER -YOUR INCOME IS UP THERE ISN'T IT???? that STUPID Cheney yes i said that awful word which I try to never use but she just ticked me off -How dare she critisize my health system ??? I go to whatever doctor I Want when i want. ex. Earache i get in same day . Time everyone did some research–Mr. King why don't you cover our health system with someone fr. canada. canadians help americans anytime they can and what do we get in return but a SLAP IN THE FACE... I feel sorry for your poor and average income families. The republicans are for the Rich.


David S. Cohen   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Larry Liz Cheney is babbling about fear mongering not the facts. I have been an American living in Canada for 23 years and I have never been told what doctor to choose or treatment to pursue. Liz looses all credibility since she does not have her facts straight. You let her off on this and also on the hypocrisy of the Republican rhetoric.


dearstruggler   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Tonight, James Carvel came to a battle of wits with Liz Cheney. Unfortunately, he was unarmed.


Isabel   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Did it every occur to anyone that the Jackson family does not want the media to know where Michael's body is!!! And I do not blame them!!!


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Larry did try to reign Lizz in...repeatedly asking her to let James finish. Liz is always this way. Talks rudely over everyone with bad information. She should not be given a voice on tv given that she is NOT informed and only spreads misinformation. Producers, PLEASE don't book her again. Her style and lies truly dismay people and allowing this discredits the show. That's why I usually watch Rachel Maddow at this time but I can no longer get it since I only have analogue cable.


mj   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Re:VA hospital

My father spent a year in a VA hospital after an horrific car accident. The local hospital could not address his needs as well as the many excellent experts at the VA. The VA is very picky about who they hire, and they can afford to be because they take excellent care of their patients and employees. I would love to have access to a public health system like the VA hospital.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Good evening Nicole,

Coming from a military and law enforcement famiily, I personally have a great deal of respect for local LEOs. I don't subscribe to your beliefs about the LAPD, as a whole. There are rotten people in every industry–granted. To say the whole PD is rotten is insulting.

I was commending Sheriff Morgan, as every interview I have witnessed, he is respectful, detailed, literate, involved and very commanding of authority. I truly commend him and his team for a cohesive investigation and standing up when needed. He would be an incredible benefit to LAPD.

*smiles*


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Larry, after Iris last night and Liz tonight...I am coming prepared tomorrow with eye bleach and ear plugs!

**waves @ EO**


Paul   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Can you please ensure that Liz Cheney does not constantly interrupt the other guests. Tonight she kept talking over James Carville and Larry the entire time !! She showed total disrespect for James, she was only interested in "shouting out" her own opinion and views.


camilla   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Hi Larry, I am from canada and I want the american people to know that they have nothing to fear if Obama's health care plan resembles Canada. We get to choose our own doctor and our doctors work with us for the best care. No one dies waiting and the system does not discriminate based on age, everyone is treated the same. The biggest detrement to our system is the doctors that leave for fatter paychecks in the U.S.
Liz Cheney and others like her are just scaring the American people for their own gain.
America, Do not listen to those people!


Kfurbish   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Larry,
I've been a watcher of your CNN show for years, and never have I been so disgusted at the rudeness and ignorance of any of your guests as I was this evening! I could not even finish watching your show tonight after listening to interruption after interruption by Liz Cheney, who showed a complete disregard for civil behavior (but then look who her father is, nevertheless I had hoped for more from Liz.)

Larry, you have to be fair to your guests in situations like this, and in my opinion, you did not exercise an adequate level of control over her interruptions (not to mention how untruthful they were) and left James Carville disadvantage and trying to override her himself, with only a few feeble attempts to stop her on your part. You had plenty of opportunities during commercial breaks to insist that she maintain the same courtesy as Carville extended to her while she droned on repetitively and endlessly with misinformation. If you can't control her, then please, please, never ever allow her back on the show.


SheriM   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Lynn Cheney & hubbie sup at the taxpayers' table. She is a horrible guest, never can wait her turn to talk.


Laura   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

It is a ridiculous to allow a spoiled brat rich kid like Liz Cheney to spout off about "choosing your own doctor." It is obvious she has the best of all possible health care available to her and her family. My work paid insurance to which I contribute limits our choice of physicians to those on the "list." It also limits covered medication to those on the "list." Unlike Ms Cheney, I could never afford to "choose" my own doctor and I earn what most would consider a respectable salary. My heart goes out to the many Americans who don't even have access to doctors and medications on a "list." Ms Cheney has no credentials to allow her access to a national audience. I have ever heard her address a topic beyond the level of an 8th grader. Why does CNN keep giving her access to an international pulpit?


Helena Ciccone   July 21st, 2009 9:45 pm ET

As a well informed Canadian who has experienced excellent quality health care here in Canada, I'm surprised to hear how ignorant Liz Cheney sounds. Someone has gravely misinformed this young lady and it is surprising, not to mention insulting to most Canadians, how our health care system is being misrepresented by the Republicans.

No the government does not tell us which doctor to go to, we choose our own. No the government does not tell our doctors which treatment they can or cannot use. This is something that is strictly respected as a doctor/patient decision. I personally have had lifesaving emergency surgery within 3 hours of entering the hospital and on a different occasion a 3 day wait time to have tumors removed.

If Americans want to hear the real truth about the Canadian Health Care System why doesn't CNN provide an opportunity for Americans to hear interviews with legitimate Canadian Health Care Experts instead of fostering Republican propagada and lies.


Rita Pollock   July 21st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Larry:

I was surprised and shocked that Ms. Cheney was allowed to constantly interrupt James Cargile when it was his turn on more than one occassion to respond.

I don't how many of her statements were based on lies but I know that her comment that the Canadian and British system does not allow patients to select their doctor is a blatant lie.

I am a Canadian and we select our own doctor all the time.

This Republican statement that health care costs are going to be too high is unbelievable. Your costs are sky rocketing all the time under your private for profit health care which you already know costs more than twice as much as Canada's and gets no better results.

Yes, to change your system it is possible it may cost more in the beginning because you have to implement some procedures to correct the mess your in.

Why do you not get some fact based people on your show to indicate facts not retoric from a Republican party that appears to be devoid of any morals or thoughts for their fellow citizens. They prefer to obstruct rather than put forward real improvements.

One of the former Premiers of Saskatchewan, Roy Romanow, would be a good person to contact on health care and reform. He was given the task by a Royal Commission to report on health reform in Canada so I know he has many facts and figures to tell the real costs of health care or lack thereof.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Dr. Murray continues to cooperate with the authorities?? Say what?? He can't help with the investigation. His negligence is one of the reasons there IS an investigation. Conrad Murray needs to be in lockup right now.


Kathy Kontogiannis   July 21st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

I AM CANADIAN– ASK ME!! I AM SO UPSET at the mis information about the Canadian Healthcare system! Liz Cheney and many other people have stated that 'Canadians don't choose their doctors', "Canadians die because they don't get treatment" "the Canadian system delivers poor care becuase its government run..." Well I bet these people have never even visited Canada and don't know anything about our country! I am a dual cititizen that has lived, worked, paid taxes and received healthcare in both the United States and Canada so I think I can speak on this issue better than any of your guests! Having experienced both systems, I would choose the Canadian system handsdown. That is not to say the system is perfect, but in Canada, Canadians beleive that HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT not a privilege as it seems to be in the US. If my child gets sick I don't have to comtemplate taking him to the doctor because I am afraid I can't aford it. And as for being taxed–I bet Americans spend more on insurance than we do in taxes...and ALL our citizens are covered–not only the ones that can afford it! The problem is that all these politicians have never had to experience the hardships that the average citizen goes through–if it doesn't affect them, then they just don't care. So they run commercials and spew lies to scare the American people from changing their system. Larry, please get some guests that at least have visited Canada or know where it is on the map before they become the proffessionals on our medical system! Good luck to your country at this crucial time and I hope President Obama is successful in making some change to ensure EVERY American has access to equally acceptable medical care!


Mich   July 21st, 2009 9:46 pm ET

Larry, please advise Liz that she is seriously misinformed about the Canadian health care system. She needs to stop talking!!!! I am a Canadian living in Toronto who uses the system and I am a better authority on the subject than she is. The conservatives keep harping on about our system, saying that we cannot choose our own doctors and that government dictates our care. I am here to say...LIZ AND THE CONSERVATIVES ARE CATEGORICALLY WRONG ON THIS SUBJECT!!!! I can go to any doctor I want. No one interferes with my relationship with my doctor(s). I wish she would educate herself before speaking. I have no complaints whatsoever with my health care. There is one major difference in Canada vs. the current US system: no one has to sell their home or go bankrupt here as a result of receiving health care. Illness is hard enough to manage without having to worry about the stress of huge co-pays and doctor bills piling up when insurance falls flat, nor d we have to worry about our carrier cutting us off after illness. I am a 1 year cancer survivor and I received treatment IMMEDIATELY upon my diagnosis at one of the 5 top cancer hospitals in the world (Princess Margaret Hospital). Treatment was completed in 6 months without delay and I have access to a whole team of leaders in cancer research, support groups, etc. This Canadian woman they keep putting up as their brain tumor "poster child" – obviously she is being paid for service – I am not buying her story and I am calling her out on her bull. Bill Clinton has a great understanding of ours and other nation's systems as he has done the research and you should have him on to rebut Liz and her tall tales. I am tired of the lies. Health care should be a non-profit industry – anything else is an insult to humanity.


karen z   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Ugh! Liz Cheney is insufferable. She never stops talking in that monotone unflapable voice of hers. James was intelligent and incredulous but did not stoop. It is always politics first and country later with republicans. Otherwise they could not so easily forget the disgusting mess they left the world with. Yes, the world.! And Larry why don't you find out what the Canadian system is REALLY like. I am so tired of the lies and misrepresentations.


Stewart McEachern   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Mr.King I am a Canadian 76 years old . I pay nothing for health insurance.
I do pay for 25% of my prescription costs ,the government insurance covers the rest. Two years ago I had a bad immune system problem. I went to our emergency aid center and was treated immediately at no cost to me. I was tested for blood oxygen levels and was placed on oxygen continually. The cost is shared 50/50 by me and the health care plan.
Critics of a comprehensive health care -plan in your country are disseminating untruthful information about the Canadian health care
plan. .
This Canadian is thanking his lucky stars his dear Mother married a Canadian and came to live in this great Canada. Stewart McEachern Calgary Alberta Canada


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Julienin, Universal Healthcare is not used by the military. I have Tri-care and I am able to pick my medical provider, care, when I need an x-ray or surgery. I pay a quarterly fee and a small co-pay. I am in charge of my healthcare not the government.


L Dufour   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

I am a Cdn who is very happy with my healthcare if I was American I would have to declare bankruptcy every year. My husband and I have serious chronic conditions which without health care we would have been in the alley.

I faithfully watch Larry but if you have Liz Cheny on one more time I am going to turn you off. She is abrasive and she either lies or doesn't know what she is talking about.


Tiffany Lawliet   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

One cannot be an addict without a supplier.


Linda   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

@natasha frisibie

You are paying for illegal immigrant now when they go into the emergency rooms and clinics and hospitals. Don't people understand that, thats why your insurance rates are going home. Thats why if insurance was allowed and affordable even to the poor, your rates would go down. People need to stop scamming people thinking that the Health Plan is going to cost all this money and help illegal aliens while you foot the bill, its just not true-you are already footing a higher cost for not allow the poor, the uninsured and illegal aliens to be treated in the clinics/hospitals and emergency rooms- who do you think pay for that.


Leane Hardtman   July 21st, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Liz Cheney is totally ignorant of the health care system in Canada. We choose our own doctors. We have one of the best health care systems in the world. Morbidity rates for most illnesses in the U.S. A. are higher than in Canada and the per capita costs for health care are lower in Canada. Don't pay any attention to those paid ads that the Republicans and Insurance companies are paying to a few Canadians to make statements thrashing our system. Too bad we can't deport them to the U.S.A.

Moreover, Larry, why did you invite James Carville on your show if you were going to allow her to interrupt him constantly. Not only was she discourteous but so were you by not putting a stop to it.


Denise Millar   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

I would like to correct Liz Cheney's comments(and other misinformed politicians) toward the Canadian Health Care System. I am an American/Canadian. She mentioned we are unable to choose our doctors. To the contrary,there are plenty of physicians and surgeons listed in the phone book. There are no restrictions or rules to choosing one's doctor. Only one's personal preference such as location, male or female, office hours etc. My family, including my mother, 3 grown children and 2 grandchildren have always received the highest quality of care in Canada with no delays. I have lived in Canada for 18 years after 35 years in the US.
So my comments come unbiased.


Bambi   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Joe Jackson's appearance brought up more questions than answers...


Sandra   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Joe Jackson sure does display strange behavior.


joanne   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

very disappointed that Liz Chaney was given full audience on Cnn and Larry didn't do anything to stop her and give James Carville the courtesy to respond. I"ve become an independent from republican. I'm sick of the party and representatives.


R. Qatar   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Ms Cheney was way off base comparing John Edwards to Gov Sanford situation. Gov Sanford abandoned his post, which he took an oath to serv to be with his mistress. Ms Cheney just another talking head on the right of no where.


frances   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

oh, Mr King, Cheney should not be allowed on your show. & she gets paid for telling lies, etc? ..& she likes to look down her nose @ other people,,probably like she did to her sweer sister when they were growing up...her sister has the sweetness & honesty,,,but she was not the favorite child because she is gay & doesn't have the best looks...but she has a good heart..& likes to stay in the bkground...Ms Cheney, do not run for political office...


Scott Poulton   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

As a primary care physician I am tired of taking the wrap of causing increased health care costs. In my state of Maryland, private insurer's payments to physicians are at or below what they were in 1995 (not indexed for cost of living increases). Medicare has in the last 10 years not kept up with physician payment increases that meet the cost of living increases that are paid to federal employees. There is not a lack of primary care doctors in this country because we are overpayed for what we do.


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

Dr Murray is obviously guilty of something. Joe is right...it should have never taken him so long to call 911. For that fact alone, he has some responsibility. Also amazing he didn't have the equipment to revive Michael. He was obviously engaging in extremely risky activity with Michael...hard to believe he was not equipped to handle an emergency.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:48 pm ET

YAY Roger Friedman!!!! AWESOME!!!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Jim Moret tries to come off as credible, but he still works for that rag, "Inside Edition."


CAROLINE MICHALUK   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Good evening Larry. Living here in Canada I do not agree to Ms Cheney on her comment that cancer patients do not get fast enough care in Canada. Two years ago I was told that I had breast cancer on Apr.30,2007, In 10 days I had my operation (May 10) and by July was into radiation treatments. I was allowed to choose a hospital of my choice and which was more convenient to home for me. The Credit Valley Hospital Cancer Center (Mississauga,Ontario) was so wonderful in dealing with the treatments and with consultations. With all of treatments, and the ongoing oncology follow-up appointments I have not seen one bill to pay!!!! Tell us here that this is not a great system....ITS GREAT.
WE A VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A SYSTEM OF THIS KIND.


carmen sanchez   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I WANT TO TELL AMERICANS THAT CANADIAN HEALTH CARE IS
GOOD WE ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE ANY DR OF OUR CHOISE
SPECIALIST ,THE GOVERMENT DONT TELL US WHAT DR WE
HAVE TO GO WE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE,WHEN GOING TO A
HOSPITAL OR ANY DR OF OUR CHOICE WE DONT PAY!
SO PLEASE STOP SAYING LIES ABOUT CANADA .
IAM SURE COMERCIAL SHOWING ON AMERICAN TV ABOUT HEALTH CARE IS A REPUBLICAN DOING IT THEY DONT WHANT
FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA TO WIN.


Dick Tormasi   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Larry – I was very disappointed in tonight's interview with James Carville and Liz Cheney. You totally allowed Liz to talk over James' comments. Not only did you NOT give equal time for answers, but at critical times for James to answer, you cut to a commercial. This is frustrating to the viewer to the extent that I will watch your program less and less if this procedural pattern continues. This writing effort may simply be futile, but my viewing decisions will be made on your attention to fairness and equality.


Yvon Lapierre   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

It is time to end the misinformation on Canadian Healthcare as is propagated by Liz Cheney and others- She has the same pathology of untruths as her fatther.
It is NOT true that Canadians cannot choose their doctor, Our system triages the urgent from the minor electives whan necessary.NO ONE in Canada loses house and home for health care costs and our total state of health is definitely better than the USA on all internatonal criteria.


Tania   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

Where does Liz Cheney get her facts? I am a Canadian living in Ontario and can select my own family doctor, have never waited to have a procedure done and have always been referred to a specialist when needed and been promptly seen. There are situations where people would have been waiting for care and that might be dependant on geography or situational but I find it hard to believe that no one in the USA has never waited for services. I cannot believe that Liz Cheney was chosen as a credible guest and I cannot believe that a political party would endirse her coming on as a guest as she has absolutely no information on the Canadian health care system.


Lilliane   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I can't believe someone like that can come on CNN and state that we Canadians can not select our doctors much less our medication.
I can pick any doctor I want, and when I am not happy I can go onto the next and the next until I am happy. As for medication, my doctor always discusses my options of medications for whatever the condition. I still do not have to fill it out the prescription and will still get a second opinion from my pharmacist who will further confirm and check to see whether my medication will conflict with any other medication I might be on at that time. So please get informed, to make such unfounded statements is a reflection of many other statements made by your republican party. If you are so unhappy with Obama send him up to Canada, we will be happy to keep him.


Lorna   July 21st, 2009 9:49 pm ET

I am A Canadian Living In Northern Ontario. As a Canadian we can choose our own doctor and if we need treatment we recieve it. Our government does not make thses decisions for us. I just wish that the politicians in the U.S. would stop brainwashing the American People by saying that the Canadian health care system is no good. These politicians that are against health care reform just want to keep tax payer dollars in their own pockets. The American people should support Obama in this, because the Canadian health care system is great!


Tiffany Lawliet   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

I love you so much Michael.


Helen   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

The sheriff of Escambia County, Florida, is the best law enforcement spokesman to appear on national television in recent months. Not only does he articulate the details of this crime within the parameters of the public's "need to know" - he exudes confidence. Forgive me for the following but he is very easy on the eyes! He never utters "and uh" or numerous other stammerings. I believe we, the public, would like to know more about this amazing man. Sincerely, Helen Walker


Steve Frakes   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

about Obama's birth certificate (U.S.). That girls high school diploma should be pulled and she be required to return to school.


Reba   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Like father, like daughter. I was appalled at the way Lynn Cheney conducted herself with James Carville in that she constantly interrupted him and hogged the so-called "debate." At the end of the talk when he started to say something when she was blabbing, she instructed, "James, don't interrupt me." Curious behaviour in that she was the guilty one when it came to interrupting. She displays the qualities of a bully__just like her father. Quite sad and disheartening...


Michael Calabrese   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

Excuse me, John Edwards was NOT holding, I repeat . . . NOT HOLDING an elective office when he commited his ADULTRY period!!!


Elie   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

It is so annoying to watch a program when guests like Liz Chaney appear. I may not always agree with James Calville but if I am giving the Larrry King Show my valuable time I would at least like the opportunity to hear what Caville has to say.

In the future I will know better than to tune in when Liz Chaney is booked.


Jen   July 21st, 2009 9:50 pm ET

People like liz chaney condemns universal health care because people like her and her Halliburton rich father will have their taxes raised. Stop condemning other countries health care. These countries care about their citizens.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Donna, that's why Conrad Murray should be fitted with a day-glo orange jumpsuit and matching wrist and ankle cuffs.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Remember- Universal Healthcare is runned by the government and paid by you, the citizens, with very HIGH taxes to be taken out of your paycheck plus the HIGH taxes we all pay to work. NO! to Universal Healthcare~~


Joan H   July 21st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Mr. King, you absolutely need to step in and control Liz Cheney!!! She constantly interrupts James Carville and talks over him whenever you turn your questions to James! It is your show and you are the moderator! I do not learn a thing when Ms. Cheney keeps blasting her opinions and like a bulldozer constantly interrupts and runs all over Mr. Carville's comments. How can I become educated on the facts with this kind of out-of-control program?! It makes a mockery out of any kind of educated discussion the American public needs to hear to be informed. Is your program's purpose to help educate the public or purely to "entertain" with the bad, rude manners of Liz Cheney?? What would Walter Cronkite say ??


Vicki   July 21st, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I wonder if it's possible for Joe Jackson to refer to Michael as "my son" instead of nearly always "my son, the greatest entertainer in the world"?


Tiffany Lawliet   July 21st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Michael deserves so much more than just people who want to use his death to get on TV or the media.


JOHN M.   July 21st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

Hamilton Ont Canada,after a recent cancer diagnosis I seen a specialist oncologist within two weeks,had ct scans &surgery within the next two weeks followed by six chemotherapy treatments. I had the option of surgeons and I am very gratefull for the care I recieved. Where did Liz Cheney get her misinformation from.


Patience - Toronto Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:52 pm ET

I was listening to your 9:00 p.m. program just now and it was painful to hear Liz Chaney talk about the Canadian plan – she has it all wrong: we in Canada are free to choose any doctor we want and also we have a choice of having private coverage as well if we so desire. Whatever failings the Canadian and British system has, Americans will be far better off with either one or the other, than with their present system.
It is a shame that America which is such a rich country does not have any sort of help for their poor and to see the wealthy Republicans fighting against helping the poor – this program is for the less fortunate and the more fortunate have a choice – Chaney has no idea or understanding? She should stop listening to her father. He needs help.
Thanks for listening.


Ashlee Whiting   July 21st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Missing You Michael Jackson.


Vic   July 21st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

It was kinda like only Joe and Leonard knew what the hell they were talking about.


pat wright   July 21st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

The money we spend for healthcare ends up in the pockets of litigation attorneys and insurance company employees and stockholders. Eliminate these dark holes, direct the money we spend into the hands of doctors and hospitals, and the problem will be solved.


Debby   July 21st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Hey Larry, yah better send Liz Cheney out to get her facts straight before you invite her back on your show. I am a proud Canadian and have been for 52 years. I have always been able to choose my own doctor and treatment in Canada. Typical republican, flapping before they have the facts!!!! Oh, by the way I have met a lot of people in my 52 years and I don't know a single family that has lost their home or anything else over medical expenses. Yah, see our government does look after their people. Liz and her party should really leave Canada out of the mix and try to figure out a solution to the healthcare problem in your country, instead of putting other countries down that have healthcare in place!

I am really getting sick and tired of her and the ads the repbulican party are putting out there. They would be farther ahead to find a solution than slammig other countries.


JACK   July 21st, 2009 9:53 pm ET

ROGER FRIEDMAN, you big fat 4 eyed phoney, go get a life. Larry, how can you have someone like bull-S Roger on your show, man Larry, you are really digging the bottom of the barrel


Sheri McGee   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I really enjoy Larry King Live, but I just had to let you know how irritating it is to watch him let Liz Chaney run all over him and other guest. When I see that she is a guest on his show I just change the channel. She is disrespectful to others by talking out of turn and over other guest. When I watch to show it is to hear the opinions of others as well, not just her. In fact, I'm less than impressed with her, but I will listen to what she has to say. Tonight trying to watch that segment was a waste of time.


leslie   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Joe did nothing to help clear the air, and in my view he confirmed the thought that he maltreated michael. He and the other guy were on the defensive throughout, using a tactic we've seen for ages. GUILTY!


R. Qatar   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Birthers! Are wackos right out of a Twilight Zone episode. Shameful


Gemma   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Thank God LIZ CHENEY is gone. Larry, don't ever invite her again. Liz Cheney is a horrible spaeaker, and she's misleading the public by telling the people wrong information about CANADIAN HEALTH CARE. CANADA has a good health care system. We chose our own doctor and specialist. We have a good HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. Shame on LIZ CHENEY. My 10 year old niece has a way better public speaking ettiquite than LIZ CHENEY. I hope she's aware on how people feel about her. And I hope that OBAMA's plan for health care for Americans will PASS or will be APPROVED. Americans need it.


Ashami Aryeetey   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Andrea you are right the Republicans are against the health care system because it will benefit the underserved communities. These are the uninsured who clog the ERs of America because they have no insurance and by the way who pays for their care, Republicans you will be surprised it still comes from your pay check. To pay for the enormous amount of money spent on taking care of these patients they have to take it from your premium. That is why the premium goes up and up every year.


Rob   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

CNN just ran a commercial featuring a Canadian citizen who said she went to the US to obtain life-saving treatment for a brain tumor. She would have died waiting for care under the Canadian sysem!!! How did she afford care in the US? Canadian Insurance, or is she wealthy? Our health care is great for the wealthy who don't need the insurance many of us can't afford.


Barbara   July 21st, 2009 9:54 pm ET

I wish people would give Joe Jackson a break. He is still a father who lost his son. I believe he loved his children. Parents back then raised their children different . Also Michael (who I loved) did have a drug problem and that could have clouded his mind. His brothers did not have the same feelings.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Annie – HI!!! lmao @ the eye patch & ear plugs.

methinksIrishadtoomuchselftanneron

*waves back*


Ann,Virginia   July 21st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Vickie,The reason for black in America2 is because white America has discriminated against blacks always & continues to do so,sadly,today.I am a white southern senior citizen,who remembers separate water fountains,restrooms etc.They were not allowed to be treated like human beings by white America & that is so very wrong.In my own southern town,I watched them on t.v.being washed out of the street with fire hoses,like they were trash,when they were just peacfully marching for the right to be treated like you are Vicky.So don't come asking about "what about white in America?"You apparently earned the right to ask that question.


Conrod   July 21st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Both of your guests should get off Joe Jackson's case. So what if he spanks Michael when he was a child? Nobody knows why Michael left him out of his will. That as far as I am concerned is ungrateful. Without Joe there would be no Michael. He made him,


Bonnie Brown   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I agree w/Gerry with one exception..Liz Cheney is not well spoken she is just another blow hard Republican.


Lynn - Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

As a Canadian I am thankful to be able to receive any treatment or tests my doctors want. It is a complete falsehood that bureaucrats are between us and our doctors – that NEVER happens here. It is US health care that has bureaucrats between patients and doctors – only they work for the insurance companies and get to have a say in what treatments and tests are given.

The major difference between Canada and US health care is that we don't see people's health as something to make profit from. I am in favour of capitalism, but some things should not be left to profit-making motives. Republicans like Liz Cheney need to stop lying to the American people.


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

JOE JACKSON IS A LIAR! Saying how he NEVER abused Michael emotionally or physically.. There are other siblings to prove it 2. & Why the heck did Joe have Leonard Rowe with him?? He's got NOTHING to do with M.J, he just wants some damn publicity! C'mon Larry, don't ever have them on your show again.


Sandra   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

We must reform our health care system. I know that my brother would be alive today if he had insurance. He worked all of his life. At the end of his life, he was doing freelance work, he could not afford insurance.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

To save on Healthcare we need to send the illegals back home. Illegals do not pay taxes and get free medical care, which born-United States citizens pay.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Of course these guys are going to tear down everything regarding last night's interview - typical fare.


Barb   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

Joe Jackson has his faults but he did make the statement that Michael had a physical and he was in good health, Joe questioned then why did Michael have to have a Dr at the house all night long? Good Question. The Dr didn't have a clue how to do CPR ! I picked up on that right away. That is what I question, Anybody knows you never do CPR on a bed,NEVER, NEVER !
I'd like to hear this Dr's explanation of what went wrong, think you could have him on as a guest ??


Pam   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

RE: Joe Jackson

I have been watching various interviews with Joe Jackson with some interest but not for the same reason that many are watching. As a mental health nurse I feel that it is possible that Mr. Jackson is in the early stages of dementia and that is contributing to his inability to track conversation and respond in an apporopriate manner. His inappropriate interview in the days immediately follow Michael's death in which he discussed some new record label he was starting was my first hint that he may be suffering from early dementia. If you watch the interview ihe appears that he doesn't really understand what is going on around him and the severity of the situation. By most reports he was less than an optimal parent but I think it is time for this circus to be over. It is embarrassing to watch this man grapple for answers to situations he should be able to recall.
Pam


Lindy Stewart   July 21st, 2009 9:56 pm ET

The ads about 'government run' healthcare in Canada and the propoganda using Canadian healthcare to support fearmongering are based on falsehoods and lies. From the sounds of people like Liz Cheney and others, the Americans have a system with no denials, no middlemen, abundant choice, no wait times, and no government involvement. Canadians have choices. My father, who lives in Alberta, Canada, at 69 years of age went into the hospital last September, where he was given 3 MRI's, x-rays, and a CAT-Scan in one week. They got him in for a brain biopsy in October (highly aggressive brain cancer). Another diagnosis of stomach anyerusm (from the original CAT scan), and he had a stint put in his stomach in November to facilitate his cancer treatment. Radiation & chemo in December, and he celebrated his 70th birthday this March. All of this within 6 mos of his original hospital stay. The tumour has since shrunk, and he's still on chemo. Had it not been for our Canadian healthcare system, all of my mom & dad's retirement savings would've been gone. Had it not been for great doctors, my father would not be here. Stop using the Canadian system to support fallacies and fear. Wise up! We have healthcare that is accessible, available, where the service comes from the ability and competency of the doctors – and not the system.


fred   July 21st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

I know that this is not necessarily a popular stance but here goes. We need universal health care how to pay for it every insurance company that denied care to someone they accepted monies from should should be forced to fork over the minimum amount of 5million per person (its the only way they (companies) will learn stop screwing over the american people.


Donna   July 21st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Even though it was a horrible interview, cut Joe a break. He's 80 years old and didn't want to implicate himself in any way. He was totally evasive and inarticulate. What was the point of having him on? We learning almost nothing from this interview. And Larry should have pressed him on the child abuse i.e. "then why did Michael repeatedly say that you abused him...what would Michael have to gain by lying about this..." Didn't the producers interview Joe first? I guess it wouldn't have mattered how he was in a pre-interview...he would have been booked for ratings.


Tiffany Lawliet   July 21st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Stories are being pulled in so many different directions. I hope the truth comes out about Michael Jackson's death. Larry, please find out the truth!


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

I have watched Roger's column daily. His reporting has been accurate to date and I'm happy he's here!

Jim Moret truly sees things with an open mind and checks his facts before he makes his statements. I've even seen if the proof wasn't there, he's declined to comment.


Mannix Kennedy   July 21st, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Has Liz Cheney ever been to Canada? If so, has she ever gone to any of the medical facilities or asked Canadians if they like their medical care?

Her ignorance of the Canadian medical system is staggering.

Yes! We Canadians can choose own doctor and what medicine were
prescribed is left to the judgement of the doctor. We have a
fantastic government run (not perfect) medical system that we as a nation have decided is in the best interest of everyone.

(Spin doctoring has become an art for the Republicans)

Watching the richest country in the world argue over the cost of
covering medical care for their fellow Americans is sad and pathetic.

The world is watching and crying.

MARK 12:31 NKJ
31 "And the second, like it, is this: `You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

Mannix Kennedy

Toronto, Canada


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

rofl EO

ithinksheknewdrkleintoo
:)


elizabeth   July 21st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

I am a long time fan of Michael Jackson. I believe there is a very good possibility that Michael's death could have been assisted suicide.

I believe that Michael was afraid to do the extended tours. I don't think he was healthy neither physically or emotionally to pull it off. I believe he would rather his die hard fans remember him from his previous performances than one that was about to end in disaster.

I do not believe the doctor did it. He may have showed someone how to do it but he was much to intelligent to do the actual deed. There is a possibility that Michael ask someone dear to him to end his suffering and paid him a large amount of cash. Just a thought.


Samantha Paige   July 21st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Lisa Cheny is so inconsiderate to James. How many times do your viewers have to sit through such blatant inconsideration? She was unyielding with her high pitch rebuttals. It isn't a debate if you can barely hear the side of your opponent, who is willfully trying to explain there views. Healthcare is a touchy topic, evolving the masses and hearing all the sides is crucial. She should know that her side and all the republicans are not the only side. Her selfish verbal display, made it evident of how her party truly stands on the issues…self-centered. Her party only sounds like they are scared of there own pockets being touched in the process of insuring the uninsured, and hiding behind the statement that they are thinking of the American people. Well if she was thinking of the people, it sure didn't seem like it tonight!


JACK   July 21st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

ROGER you fool, old Joe needed to get involved with AEG because they wanted to pay him in pounds. LARRY what you are quoting by AEG right now is heresay...Michael is dead, he ain't here to contradict anything that anybody is saying right now...
ROGER, are you getting a cut from AEG?


karen z   July 21st, 2009 9:58 pm ET

As a Canadian I so agree with Mich. STOP THE LIES ABOUT OUR SYSTEM. There are people here in Canada with a vested interest in seeing you current system continue because they make money referrring people to American doctors. Maybe you all prefer your insurance companies telling you what treatment you can or cannot have. Our government does not involve itself in treatment. Whatever the doctor says is needed is done. PERIOD.! AND NOONE EVER GOES BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gloria   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Can we please NOT have Liz Cheney on the show anymore? She keeps cutting James Carville off or talking over him. Not only it is rude, it is quite distracting. I've seen her on other CNN shows before during which she's made the same offense. I think there are numerous ways to articulate your thoughts without talking over others It is extremely unproductive and irritating. I will be switching to other stations when I see her on next time.


Paul Prior   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

the lies being spred ithe media about Canadian Health care are astounding I know my doctor and he has been my dr dor 10 years now I get the best of carewhen I am sick
Diabetes and colitis the plan may only pay for generic drugs
and not the more expensive first discovery drug
but by in large we are healthy and if bankrupt it is not becuse of health care and neither is the Canadian Goverment
You middle Americans ????


toni Torres   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Who is paying Liz Cheney???? ! ! ! !

She really think "US" the American people are that stupid, She does not realize that for 40 million of us it would be great just to have a chance to see a doctor, never mind chose one! ! ! !(Although She is either completely miss inform or blatantly lying to us when she compares the English or Canadian Health Care to some kind of fictional communist system ! ! Shame on her ! ! ! It is disgusting to hear what Kind detachment and disregard She has about an immense number of Americans that have no access to any kind of doctor. How detach from the real problems of Americans can anybody with a public platform be. We have to wake up to the lies that are being feed to us daily! ! !
Wake up and demand what WE are entitle to ! ! ! ! Health Care for all Americans Now ! ! ! !


Andrew   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Why is Michaels dad denying Michaels beatings thats foolish


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Sony is going to pay $60,000,000 for the rehearsal footage? Wow, even corporate America is picking away at Michael's flesh. How disgusting.


william g. evans   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

First time blogger. I have 3 questions concerning Michael Vick. First question. Has anyone convicted of dogfighting received as severe a penalty as he has? 2. What happen to the young who was killing and maiming animals in his neighborhood? 3. And do you have any information on the dogfighting ring that was recently busted? I would like to know what has happened to these incident..One more thing why hasn't the news media ignored these events? Seems that if the media was all that concerned about dogfighting they would be on top of these events. But they have buried them. This seems unfair coverage to me, or is there some other reason such as who he is or his resemblance to O. J.?


Aaegie, Toronto, Canada   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Joe Jackson is buffoon, who had no relationship with his Son because he abused Michael, a fact that Joe Jackson admitted to Martin Bashir himself.


Michelle   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I don't understand why some people on this blog are defending Joe Jackson and his physical and mental abuse of Michael. This makes me sick! Physical and emotional abuse should not be tolerated or defended due to one race or with some kind of excuse. Joe Jackson wasn't a father to Michael he saw him as his meal ticket and for him to be in the spotlight.

And it's no wonder why we have idiots losers like Chris Brown who beat their girlfriends and make a lousey attempts to try to apologize since his career is in the toilet. So many people want to cash in on MJ's death its kind of annoying.. with this whole movie thing. I think people need to let his kids and family grieve a bit before some movie /rehearsal footage is released like this.


canadian   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

If you have that woman on again I will can not and will not watch- can't stand listening to her; I just kept thinking SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why did you have her on- she dosen't know anything (maybe because of her father)????? It is sad that lies can be so openly told about our health system and even sadder it was on your show . Just want to add a few more canadian points –Our BANKS haven't collapsed and realestate is doing just fine and NOBODY LOOSES ANYTHING GOING TO THE DOCTOR (ex house and home) from a dedicated Canadian viewer.


Bernadette   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

It's obvious that Joe Jackson is not involved with the family and does not know anything. Interview Michael's mom if you want info.


Anne   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I wish people will quit saying Joe Jackson abused his kids, back in the days majority of black children was abused. This is what the whites would say. Black children were whooped and we were whooped to teach us not to do the same thing over and I do believe that's what Joe Jackson was trying to do. It's been taken out of content (abuse).


Tiffany Lawliet   July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

I also felt that Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe was very rude to you, Larry. You had a lot of patience – even I was getting angry.


Tom   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Michael jackson faked his death! The whole thing is a hoax He Had numerouse body doubles and staged his whole death look for the clues they are clear as day people wake up


Dianne   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Hey Larry,

Just wanted to say as a Canadian Liz Chaney needs to get her facts straight. Our Health Care System is not perfect by any means but a couple of things:

1. We are aloud to choose our own doctors to which we have top notch ones.
2. We can see specialists within one to two months, which I have many times.
3. We are losing good doctors to the U.S. because of your system where their salaries are not capped and are allowed to charge whatever they want. Thank goodness only the greedy ones leave Canada.
4. As a proud Canadian, I think we are lucky to have some of the most amazing hospitals here like Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto.

Please tell Liz Chaney to do a little more investagating before she makes futher comments about the Canadian Health Care System.


sharon king   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

All you have to do is watch this interview he isn't up set at all he looks like and acts like a cold fish


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

laughs Annie.

methinksyoumightberightbutIdon'tthinksheshouldbeaposterchildforhiswork

*giggles*


Brittney   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

i just dont understand how joe jackson can really deny hitting his children. i will love you michael always and forever.


Joan   July 21st, 2009 10:00 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to do her homework before making statements about the Canadian health care system. She is way off base! I am Canadian and I choose my physician and have the liberty of requesting a specialist of my choice. I have always received top notch care. Also, I have a dear friend who just completed timely and excellent care in her cancer treatment program. I am offended by Liz Cheney's comments.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Jack - great points. Of course they're going to stick up for each other. I guess "one hand washes the other."


G.Anna   July 21st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

If Pres Obama's healthcare reform dosent get passed we will not only be left with pre existings,high deductibles & copays for the employed & if we have no insurance we will be forced into what is called "junk insurance" ie: discount insurances which only offer approx $75.00 reimbursement on Drs visits, in, outpatient & ER visits which we will have to pay the remaining balance. Anyone who has a pre existing condition will not be insurable & forced into a junk insurance.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Ann, I know what happened to the blacks, but it comes a time to let the hurt go and let the NEW start. I am not seeing this happen. It has come to have pity on the blacks. It has been a hundred years, how much longer will they hang on to the wrongs? I say let it go~or things will stay the same.


Tischa   July 21st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Joe is only worried about money. That's all!


Doug Berry - Huntsville, Al   July 21st, 2009 10:01 pm ET

Liz does not speak for all conservatives. People like her are the reason I'm tired of the party. I've been a conservative all my adult life.
The lady at the meeting with the birth certificate wants proof of Obama's citizenship. Period. Liz's answer missed the point entirely and said conservatives don't trust Obama on protecting America. Where the hell did that come from? From Dick? Conservatives, I know, want to see the Birth Certificate that Obama won't produce. If he wanted to end this discussion then simply produce the document.
Liz was completely on some other tangent. Incredible.
Health Care is something that should be afforded to every American. Not just ones with good jobs. Not just the rich. Not just self-centered people. Where's the compassion for the poor?
"Real Compassion" is not just concern for yourself , your wife, your kids, your parents, neighbors and friends. "Real Compassion" is for the person across town or across the country that you don't know. It's sad that conservatives have let the Limbaughs and Hannity's brainwash them into thinking the dollar is more important than a poor mans health.
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Margaret Bernhart   July 21st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Sadly, Joe never offered any parental sadness over the loss of his child. As a practicing psychotherapist, this inability to have empathy is called narcissism.


Alison Gow   July 21st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Liz Cheney needs to do some research before she spouts off about things she really isn't knowledgeable about. Canada has amazing healthcare! Everyone knows that. We are free to choose our doctors, medications, and specialists. We are not turned away by an HMO as they don't exist here, thankfully!
The woman on the ads CNN, Shona Holmes, has likely made a fortune from that clip she made talking about her situation. I can honestly say that her condition would not have been serious enough to require immediate surgery. She would not have been forced to wait that long. Perhaps she needed a bit of attention.
Regardless, change can be scary but Americans should embrace a better more equal healthcare, not just for the rich!


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Sony's purchase of the footage to make a movie from it benefits Michael's estate– meaning his children and his mother (unless she continues and gets disinherited).

Brilliant move on the part of MJ's executors, AEG and Sony.


Marian   July 21st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

They need to live Joe alone,let him mourn for his son,he makes Michael what he was,I'm from Africa I got beaten by my parents but that does not make me hate them instead it make me strong.


shelly   July 21st, 2009 10:02 pm ET

I am so sick and tired of all these people who think they know about black people and how they disciple their children. Maybe Joe Jackson was not balanced in his discipline but most parents coming from a background of strict discipline did not have children in prison or in jail. Govt rvention and social workers have parents scared and now children get disciplined by the police at age 16 and up. White people do not have the inside track to our families and our method of discipline. Hopefully now more will be more balanced but most of us came out fine. Ask Rebbie....Jackie...and the otherJacksons!


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

ita Michelle

It was easier to beat his kids and reap the rewards than run that crane at the steel yard.

He'll be abusing them emotionally until his last breath.


JACK   July 21st, 2009 10:03 pm ET

What went on in your house ROGER? maybe your parents should have starved you instead of turn you into a glutton because fat cells start in infancy and fat kids become fat adults!!! you are despicable to look at


pat wright   July 21st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Even as the insurance companies have bundled death benefit with a savings feature in whole life insurance policies, both of which require premium payments but only one of which will ever be paid out, the insurance companies insist on bundling basic healthcare with major medical coverage. In addition to paying premiums the insured is liable for co-payments, deductibles, exclusions. For most insureds major medical may never come into use. These features of healthcare insurance makes basic healthcare unaffordable. If the government wants to subsidize something it should look at handling major medical as aseparate issue. There is no practical way to keep a "for profit" insuror between the person in need of medical attention and the medical provider and reduce costs of services.


Chaplain Misty   July 21st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

With all the homeless in this world, especialy here in our own homeland , some can get out of being on the streets,(i DID) and some just dont want to deal with the landlord stuff, too many people are also going hungry because of the economy(sp) is their anything that could be done to hel this process along, I mean comeon look at all the empty and abpned wearhouse that could be turned into something good , insted of being used for squaters?


Nancy Hipps   July 21st, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Larry, I am so disapponited in you and your network. You only want to give the vultures spots on your programs so your ratings will go higher. You no longer care about reporting facts..thats what the news is....facts....you no longer care about challenging people who are on your show to give facts...only sound bits...and you never have the guts to challenge them so you can get the facts to the public. Your responsibity is to get the FACTS to the public. You get the FACTS tio the public and allow them to make intelligent decisions about what is important. Remember that! Otherwise you are no more than an entirement and shoud not be taken seriously. As consumers we need to. I wonder what Walter Cronkite would think of you and your 24 hours news, and I use that term lightly.


Nancy   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

This guy from Inside Edition is just as bad as Joe Jackson , if not worse. Joe never said he wanted to tour the kids as the Jackson 3 -never, never, never. I saw the interview he keeps referring to . When Joe was asked if the kids had their Dad's talent – Joe said – I hear Paris wants to do something and everyone says Blanket can really dance – That is all Joe said. Geez these media a$$es just keep the lies going and going. The Jackson's need to come down on these tabloid outlets and sue their pants off. I am so sick of all the lies associated with this family, who would even know what the truth is now? And these sensationalists are still slandering Michael. Jackson's please SUE all the people that keep telling lies and slandering Michael. Michael has paid the ultimate price for all these lies. STOP the LIES.


paul   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

does anyone else find it funny that the only people talking about whether or not everyone should have health care is people that have health care? i wish those people discussing whether i should be worthy of seeing a doctor would ask me. i haven't been in a doctors office in well over a decade. and yes, i am a small business owner so i have to make the choice of keeping and investing in my business or pay for insurance.


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

hehehe EO

istillthinkshewasathrillerdancer ;)


A.S.   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

Thank you, Ann from Virgina for the comment to Vickie! God Bless (P.S.I'm not black just hoping one day there will be less ignorance in this world..you just gave me hope)


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

I'm not tearing down anything to whoever made that remark but I think it's POINTLESS to interview Joe Jackson, all he's going to do is deny everything. I loved tonights show, Larry, awesome job.

Joe should seriously stop doing interviews bcuz he's getting paid to basically say nothing. :/


louis kecki   July 21st, 2009 10:05 pm ET

larry i enjoy watching your show every night and have been for many years,,but lately there are so many commercials it makes it difficult to watch.the commercials are such a drag ,it would be nice to rid of them. people shop all day long and they can see for them selves what's in this rotten world, we don't need commercials. it's that way with all channels i know.it would be such a relief without them.


peter golburgh   July 21st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Larry, I am almost as young as you; I remember listening to the radio under my covers with an earpiece from 2 a.m. to the end of your radio show in Boston, Mass. I remember when you used to speak your piece and now cannot understand your reluctance to pull a Howard Cossell. I would if I could , rip Joe Jackson another one, as well as the thief that love guy, or whatever his name is. Also, this kid was a multi millionaire when he was real young and could have done anything he wanted. He didn't have the cajones to move on his own to decent advisors; but, then again, with Madoff, etc; who could know. Michael realized he could not complete the 50 showdates in his condition and rather than fail, he decided to end it. I trust he is ok now, and will be remembered for his good, not his devil.

Love ya, Larry;


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Jack,

Making derogitory comments to someone based on their looks should be considered out of line here. I would hope you could show some decorum in future posts.


Linda   July 21st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

I agree with what someone said about having James Caville and his Wife on as opposing sides, at least you would get a rational, senible debate from both sides of the party. She is neither rude or obnixous and she knows her stuff just like him. Larry it would be a treat to see those two debating each other on TV, good for your ratings too.


Jennifer   July 21st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

HI Larry,
You should read the speech MJ gave at Oxford University. He spoke about his father, a little about the emotional neglect, and abuse. Surprisingly, he then focuses on forgiveness, and what his father did right, and tries to understand why his father is the way he is. This is a speech about healing himself for his children, and his message of healing the world using love. Excellent.


Vicki   July 21st, 2009 10:06 pm ET

Pam – Joe Jackson has dementia?? Possible, but have you ever heard about people not being able to remember things that they just don't give a rat's butt about? Joe Jackson is out for Joe Jackson. Michael was never #1 with Joe - Joe was!


Trejin   July 21st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

Our Canadian friends have spoken. Its obivious Liz had no clue what she was talking about, when it came to foreign healthcare. They choose their doctors. What was Liz talking about? Again another example of declining GOP party thats out of touch with whats happening in the "real" world.


Peppy   July 21st, 2009 10:07 pm ET

About Insurance–read this blog and you will see how the Canadians feel about the Insurance–they LOVE their Insurance–people who are on CNN are talking thru their nose. Obama is doing a GREAT job–these people are talking for the Doctors who are against Gov. Health Ins.


fred sales   July 21st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

i was raised on farms in powhatan and ashland va. in the mid 50s to the mid 60s. it was hard work. but very rewarding .raising live stock,grains,and hay. the animals had hundreds of acres to run around on. they had sheds to go in in bad weather.you never saw the animals treated bad. my son josh saw factory farming on the internet and has gone vegetarian. how can this be going on in Amarica? i know .its the same thing thats destroying the world."GREED" it will turn anyones stomach to see whats going on.i know a couple of the other stations wouldnt say anything when i contacted them. probably because to many important people are involved in the greed. please larry. check out factory farming .thanks....former farmer


Manitoba, Canada   July 21st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

DO RESEARCH ON OUR CANADIAN HEALTH SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEFORE you open your mouth STOP telling lies. I am sick of listening to the all ignorance on the american stations about our health system- get with it.


Shirley Thomason   July 21st, 2009 10:08 pm ET

Liz Cheney is just like her father, isn't she?


Delia   July 21st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

I disagree with Jim and Roger excuse to Michael pill addiction because of his father ... As much as I love Michael – Let's face it! Michael had an addiction problem. Joe Jackson might not be the smartest but, I do believe he abused his kids and Michael was abusing pills because of him.


Rock Rivard   July 21st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Larry King and Cie have lost all the respect I had for him/them. What used to be provacative, informative, and investigative journalism has turned into a tabloidish media fest. Enough already. Is there really nothing else happening in the world? Micheal is dead, let him rest in peace, enough said, let the E network or TMZ or other tabloid group do the idiotfest and go back to real journalism.

thank you!


Ann   July 21st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Regarding the birth certificate issue – this really needs to stop. Larry you missed a perfect opportunity to be the first in the media to end this nonsense. The constitution states "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the US, at the time of this Constituion, shall be eligible to the office of President". President Obama's mother is an American citizen, thereby cementing his citizenship unless he officially renounced it after becoming 18. Under the legal term of art, natural born includes a person born abroad if one parent was a US citizen. However, his certificate states he was born in the US. First they talked about him not having the experience well he has proven he can handle the pressure. So they do not have any more talking points the election is over its time to work on the problems that have been ignored for too long.

The reason why they keep bringing this issue up is because they do not want a Black Man to hold a superior position of authority.

Regarding the health issue – Ms. Cheney is a bully like her father. If she had valid talking points she would not have felt it necessary to interrupt and talk over everyone. Just because you shout the loudest does not mean you are saying much.

Natiaional security is her only talking point – but if Americans are not healthy then what are we defending? You have to take care of the mental and physical being of your people. Congress needs to get their act together and begin working together on issues that help ALL Americans.

If the Republicans and Democrates are so concerned about health care bill where was their concern when we went to war? Why is no one talking about the costs of both wars? We could give every American health care and improve our education system with all of the money we have spent on the wars?

History has shown that when your leaders become corrupt, spend too much money on luxury items (greed), and have to constantly fight outsiders the down fall begins – look at Rome, Islamic Empire, England, and others.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Shelly, I have seen how blacks discipline their children and it is horrible. Statistics say most inmates are black. MMM...does strict discipline really help?


Donna   July 21st, 2009 10:09 pm ET

I don't think anyone's really defending child abuse. I think we're just examining context. It was just a different culture in the 1960's-1980s. I was routinely hit by nuns in school and pretty severely at times by my parents... as were my friends. It was normalized. I have not suffered any bad reprecussions from it. That being said, I still think it's wrong.


Vern   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Larry, larry, come on the public is not stupid, i believe joe jackson and Rowe,
AEG had a lot to do with Michael's death... Don't ask us to take the big wigs explanations, that is not fair... I believe money in this day and age will cause people to do anything,, michael was worth more dead than alive.. otherwise if according to AEG that he was so healthy, then why is he dead... and everyone is just saying so sad, but the money goes on for all concerned in the business world of michael's fortune....


EJH   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Re Heatlh Care Discussion

If Liz Cheney is going to bring the Canadian Health Care system into her discussion I would greatly appreciate it if she ensures that she knows what she is talking about.

She kept saying that we (and British patients) cannot even choose our own doctors. While I cannot speak to the British system I can speak to ours. And I can tell you, unequivocally, that we absolutely do choose our own doctors. And if we don't like the one we chose, we choose another one!

While our system is not perfect, I have many American relatives and friends and I can assure you that I would choose our system over the American system any day.

EJH


Jen   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

NANCY, you and I must have been watching the same station because what you heard Joe say is excatly what I heard too. I wonder how these media people can sleep at night. Maybe they need some Diprivan, lol...


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Annie

omgialmostfelloffthecouchlaughingatthethrillerdancer

Amanda–

just fyi. Joe was not paid by CNN for the interview last night.

I totally agree that no one should give Joe or any of his cronies a platform to waste time and spread untruths. At the same time, it does give the world a better look at what Michael dealth with in his life. Joe makes it too easy to side with Michael, imho.


Delia   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Correction: I do NOT believe he abused his kids


Dr. Gayle   July 21st, 2009 10:10 pm ET

Does not anyone remember the old Jackson 5 cartoon where each of the brothers told their version of how an incident occurred? Well, I believe that episode was reflective of the family. Clearly MJ thought his father abused him verbally and physically. As an African-American parent I know most of us could be accused of the same, but we truly were not. As a mother and grandmother, I often speak of my son or his sons being as gifted as Michael Jackson in song, dance, or music. I often say of the grandsons that they are naturals with talent beyond the families' and especially their father's (a professional musician in the US Army who has served in Iraq et al places). Joe Jackson spoke the truth last night when he said:1) I loved Michael and still do (as do I and my family) 2) That he does not plan totour the "Jackson 3"..prepostrous!!) 3) Michael's kids have a lot of gifts and talents and Paris said she wants to be what her father was, i.e., a singer and dancer (among other wonderful things that she is too young to understand) and the boys look like Michael..that idiot dermatologist is the one y'all should be investigating further for sensationalism, extortion, and LIES! NOT JOE JACKSON and as a mother and wife who loves the father of her children, do not doubt Debbie's love for Michael either..she loved him so much that she gave up her CHEILDREN TO MAKE HIM HAPPY!! YES, those children are crying everyday..I still cry over Michael and all I had was his music and what the media gave me, He was and is their father, daddy, and single parent who was in a lot of pain..internally and emotionally as well as physically and he wanted IMMORTALITY! not Mortality!! But if he did not know Jesus as Savior and Lord, he will die a second death as will we all if we don't. Furthermore, as an attorney and a medical professional who has taken the hippocratic oath, the DOCTORS< BUSINIESS PROFESSIONALS AND THE MEDIA as much responsible for Michael's deaths as was he and aall his so-called spiritual advisors, especially the Christian ones and all we so-called intercessors..also Chuck Colson is a great guy and Larry you should listen to his witnessing!!


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 10:11 pm ET

Vickie - you said: "I know what happened to the blacks, but it comes a time to let the hurt go and let the NEW start. I am not seeing this happen. It has come to have pity on the blacks. It has been a hundred years, how much longer will they hang on to the wrongs? I say let it go~or things will stay the same."

You are kidding, right? Unless you have experienced racial discrimination in this country, you don't have a clue of what you're talking about. It's been a hundred years since what? Slavery was carried out over centuries. When kids are still getting banned from swinning pools because their "complexions" are unacceptable - or Harvard Professor Gates gets arrested for trying to enter HIS OWN HOME - the racial discussion has a LONG way to go.


Emanuel Mule   July 21st, 2009 10:11 pm ET

Larry,

Saw your show tonite...Liz Cheney was INCREDIABLY RUDE to James Carville + YOU!...many times not giving him/you the chance to speak! In addition, she didn't answer your questions now James' inights/analysis....EVASIVE! I guess her dad taught her that! I am NOT really sure why you invite her on your show....I guess you want controversary rather than calm debate on the issues of the day!

7/21/09/10:11PM


helena   July 21st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

love Michael so very much & hope he is resting in peace....


helena   July 21st, 2009 10:12 pm ET

love Michael so very much & hope he is resting in peace....


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Vickie (with an "E") - you sound like a closet racist. You keep spewing nonsense. Blacks are not the only ethnic group that spanks their kids. And Blacks are not the only inmates in prison.


fred sales   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

EVERYONE CHECK OUT FACTORY FARMING ON THE INTERNET. ITS PRETTY SAD AND CRIMINAL WHATS GOING ON...........FRED


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

—Nicole S. - North Carolina
July 21st, 2009 9:59 pm ET

Sony is going to pay $60,000,000 for the rehearsal footage? Wow, even corporate America is picking away at Michael’s flesh. How disgusting.

OMG I know right? Cruel. & Demi Lovato along w/David Artchuletta are having a concert in my state at the Allstate Arena & GUESS who it's sponsored by??
..

AEG :/

Like they aren't already getting alotta $$ from M.J's proceeds & the Sony thing is giving AEG 10% of the fund from that rehearsal footage or w/e what a shame. :|


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Jen and Nancy

I think the interview you are referring to was Chris Connelly on ABC interviewing Joe last Monday/Tuesday. You both are correct that he said exactly what Nancy quoted.

However, I believe it was in a separate interview that the comments about the children as the Jackson 3 came up. The interview was prior to the ABC interview. If I find it online, I'll post the link. You can/could google it also.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Remember the first slave owner was Black~


Sheryl   July 21st, 2009 10:14 pm ET

I had never watched Liz Cheney do an interview before. I realize now that she is the epitome of rudeness; she wanted to monopolize the entire segment. I'm wondering why you couldn't be in more control. It was very difficult to watch, and I won't watch her again. Maybe you were making a point, like you always so craftily do!


cannuck   July 21st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

HELLOOOOO, ANYBODY HOME Over there!! I am proud to be a canadian -our country has done good. So shutup about our health care system -it works for us.. We are free to choose any doctor any time. Please, get off the air waves unless you know what you are talking about . Thankyou


Wendy   July 21st, 2009 10:15 pm ET

People who spit out information that is totally wrong are just ignorant and rude. I am a proud Canadian and have dealt with 2 entirely different life-threatening illnesses in my 55 years and was never denied treatment or medication nor was I told I would just have to wait my turn. One of these instances was in 2006 when I learned I had Ca of the Lung. I had all the necessary tests before and after my surgery including Ct Scans, brain scans, bone scans, etc, all the blood work I needed repeatedely and had major surgery to rmove a lobe of my lung at no cost to me. I had chemotherapy following surgery for 11 weeks still at no cost and have been cancer-free since the day of my surgery in October/06. I chose my surgeon and traveled to another city fo see him receive my treatment, and have seen him and cancer treatment physicians regularly since then. I have received remuneration from the canadian government regularly for my travel costs to see these doctors which amounts to approximately 20 times in 3 years. Don't tell me our system is not amoung the best, if not THE best, in the world. I am still alive because I live in Canada. Had I been in the US I probably would not be alive to write this note because I wouldn't have been able to afford health insurance. EVERYONE in our country has health care. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor and if I am in the US and fall ill, the Canadian and Provincial governments will pay my bills. Liz Cheney, you don't know what you are talking about!!


Cassandra   July 21st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

I am shame at all media for interviewing Joe Jackson, the man is old ,can't hardly hear, why humilate this man. I believe everything Joe Jackson said and Rowe. When I heard Michael was dead, my first thought was a dead Michael is worth more than a living Michael.
If it was not for Joe Jackson spanking Michael's but, he would have never been the King of Pop. Joe instill strength, determination and not to fear in those kids. I tell you this,my dad's name was Joe, he has been dead 30yrs and it was six of us and he was spank our buts in a heartbeat and we are fine. That is what is wrong with our black children in this world today,their parents feel , I can't raise my children the way my mom and dad did me,thats why these kids are so useless, no discipline. I am sure Michael made up all this for sympathy and attention, back in the day all black kids will say they were whipped!!On the ASS no where else. I am glad Joe and Rowe would not tell you anything!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure he knows where Michael is!!! WISE MAN!!!!!!!!!


Wilmer   July 21st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Larry, I enjoy your show. Liz Cheney did not know what she was talking about regarding Canadian healthcare. We all choose our own Drs. and in 48 years of life, I have never heard of one person who died because they could not get a Dr. or receive treatment. At times, there is a waiting period for elective or non-life threatening surgeries, but not for emergencies or life threatening sicknesses.


Dorothy Turcotte   July 21st, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Tonight on the show, Liz Cheney made a derogatory comment about the Canadian health care system – that Canadians cannot choose their own doctor. She and other opponents to Obama's healthcare proposals are not doing their fellow Americans any favour by denigrating our health care system. No Canadian goes bankrupt or loses their home because they can't pay for any healthcare needs. We are ALL covered, and none of us can lose our coverage. I have had two cataract surgeries and two joint replacements, all done within very reasonable time frames, and it did not cost a cent. Those who need emergency surgery get it. Oh, and we can choose our own doctor! I'm sick of hearing all this crap about "socialism". On the other hand, my 62-year-old niece in Cleveland has been disabled for years, unable to work, and is spending most of her meager income on healthcare insurance, yet is afraid to claim for the care she needs lest she be cut off entirely. Don't tell me that is a better system than ours.
If Liz Cheney and others want to comment on Canada's healthcare insurance, they should get their facts right first.


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

The J5 were born with talent.....either you have it or you don't. True JJ gave them the avenue to develop it at high emotional and physical costs to them.

The only thing I think he instilled in them was to not be like him!!!


michele canada   July 21st, 2009 10:17 pm ET

Conrod July 21st, 2009 9:55 pm ET

""" Nobody knows why Michael left him out of his will. That as far as I am concerned is ungrateful. Without Joe there would be no Michael. He made him"""""""""""

THANK YOU NO TRUER WORDS SAID


pat wright   July 21st, 2009 10:18 pm ET

Shirley Thompson; Liz is like her father. She studies the facts surrounding the problem and comes up with a logical and practical solution. She employs may I say a "pragmatic" approach to problem solving. Apparently you don't agree with her less than empathetic approach.


Vickie   July 21st, 2009 10:18 pm ET

The posts tonight have been enlightening and thank you for respecting my views as I have yours. Good night~


Jen   July 21st, 2009 10:19 pm ET

EO,SD.....I'll check it out, thanks


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

—EO, San Diego
That's a relief lol. Youre also right though about how it shows what M.J had to deal with.. But still, it makes me so mad! :/

Seeing Joe deny everything makes my eyes watery.. Ugh. :|


Fran   July 21st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

I am wondering where Ms Cheney gets her information regarding the Canadian health care system. As a born Canadian and resident of Ontario, at no time has my government told me who my physician should be. Canadians can pick and choose who their health care provider/physician is, from family physician to specialist.
My nephew's American wife can attest to the benefits of the Canadian system and is grateful for the care she and their child received during a very stressful time. She would certainly promote a "government" run system.

The commercials being aired on American TV with a "Canadian" telling her story can be twisted any way to suit the listener. A government that cares for its citizens by providing the necessities of life is a government to be proud of.


Umuhire   July 21st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

Good evening Larry, I am one of the billions fans Michaels has in Africa.I currently live here in the States but I knew M.K since my homeland, and that is why the rumors and negative media coverage never altered my admiration for this truly unique human being.
I watched the interview yesterday with Joe Jackson and I think that this man did not beat his children because he meant to hurt them, but he just did what he tought was the best way to turn them into stars and if that meant beating them so that they can get those steps right, he did it. And again remember that this is a man from another time and age, when disciplining a child had a different definition than it does today. So even today he might still be in denial about hurting Michael, because he truly beleives he did what he was suppose to do, as a father and actually contributed to his success. And I would not totally dsagree with that, because maybe would Michaels had been born from another family, he would not have become the legend he became. The way he was raised somehow contributed to his success, it also affected him in others ways, that I beleive lead to many of the bad choices he might have made as a grown man, but I beleive that even him knew that he had to take some personal responsibilities toward his life as an adult and not blame it all on the way he was raised, because many of us were beaten by our parents, but that does not mean that we hold them responsible for everything that goes wrong in our lives. I truly beleive that Joe Jackson loved M.J very much and still does and M.K knew that. But then again I would not wish to see him around M.J.'s children, because men like him don't change, and he is just the way he is. If Catherine is still involved with him, maybe someone else should look out for those children, because joe, should just not be around them. It was Michaels wish and it should be respected. Not that I think that Joe could intentionally hurt them. No. Because he did not intentionally hurt his children as well, but the fact is that he did hurt them, so he should just stay away from raising any children.
Thanks again for your coverage Larry, I had said it before and I am saying it again, many of us were so horrified when we heard that we had lost M.J, and we really had your coverage to rely on to keep us informed and allow us to greif for him, remembering the best of him. And I was so upset when you were showing M.J'S burning head and scalp, over and over, and one of your guest made a comment about it being 'a little too much' probably for the 'ratings' as he called it. I was so upset because I completely agree that it needed to be shown to the whole world so that people understand that if M.J became addicted to pain killer, there was a legitimate cause to that. And I think that the American Media really owe this to M.J. to show the real truth of his life and acheivement,s because they have a whole decade to make up for!!!! Around the world M.J is loved and recognized for his tremendous impact and the messages carried in his songs, but here in this country, his country, some people did only know him as a bad person, up until very recently, when finally you guys and some other media, started telling the truth.
So keep doing what you are doing Larry, I am speaking for a group of over 50 people who can not communicate their feelings online, but who wishes you all the best.
Love
Umuhire


Sandra   July 21st, 2009 10:20 pm ET

I don,t condone what joe jackson has done to his kids-but I too got the belt (60,s)and five across the lips it wasn,t abuse and I never thought of it that way I am glad my Irish dad was strict thats how it was done look at the kids today you can,t even yell at them I,ll phone the child services if I ever heard that I,ll telll them to get the army as well-give me a break its, NOT abuse-ABUSE is caging a child up-sexually molesting a child -need I go on its horrific I grew up with manners and been polite and thats what the belt did for me -don,t get me wrong I didn,t like it but we also got it in school the strap Abuse-look at the world at war thats abuse abuse of power money etc. so lay off the MJ abuse claims it wasn,t abuse!!!Enough said.As for Joe jackson i think he has demetia he doesn,t seem to talk right i work with the mentally ill and there is something wrong with him -however I still think Joe and the rest of the lay abouts (the other jacksons)that don,t work are money mad never enough for them but I still cared for MJ I grew up with his songs he was 3 yrs younger than me sooo SAD.I also am in chronic pain and do not take any pain releaivers I use too until they killed my dad who had a form of dementia from the pill doctors of the 70,s I choose not to take that path I use a TENS machine(transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator)that helps my pain and laughter bad seroius car accident in the 80,s took me 2 yeras just to spell and talk properly again not to mention the chronic pain 24/7 so why didn,t someone HELP MJ if that was my son I would have threaten to take his kids then take him to a hospital and rehab and put alot of weight on him .Are you telling the jacksons that nobody could do anything I don,t care who you are even the pope nobody should let another person suffer that way!!!Anorexeia that too probaley had alot to do with his death and the combination of potent meds look at Elvis-Karen carpenter who starved herself need I say more.Put MJ to rest and stop squabbling over where he is buried -he is not here anymore just a shell so God bless him in Heaven-all the money in the world cannot help I glad I am on pension who wants fame and fortune not me -as long as I can pay my mortgage and food and bills thats it I,m happy and certainly not materialistic!!!Also he was a ICON but you cannot equate him to Elvis or mario lanza he was great but not a orginal look at the video of Elvis singing Jailhouse Rock the white socks black shoes and dances great on his toes HMMMM Mj I think copied Elvis in every way but I do give him credit for been a great entertainer God bless everyone we all need it thanks,Sandra.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

There is more than racial discrimination that occurs in this country. There is also gender, sexual orientation, economic, age, looks (as Jack points out this evening).

Just because there is discrimination does not make abuse acceptable. Doesn't matter if it is physical, emotion or otherwise. It is not acceptable and no one should make exuses.

The time frame Michael grew up was a different time, but locking a child in a closet until he would perform better is not logical to the topic of racial differences in child rearing.

Michael wanted people to look past classes- no matter their category. When he found something of interest to him, he researched it until he knew every aspect of it–inside and out.

We all should be more tolerant of everyone around us. We should give people the benefit of the doubt. The court of public opinion has started predicting the outcome before all the facts. If only it were August 3rd. Feels like a million years away.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

Amanda - AEG and Sony are corporations. They're just continuing their M.O. of corporate greed. It's what they do. They don't care about Michael Jackson. They just care about how much richer his death is making them.


cjl   July 21st, 2009 10:21 pm ET

Larry, Larry, Larry. I honestly can not wait to see any of the Jackson families reaction when they are asked ...... do you really think Michael is dead? Because ya know Larry? Hes not. Come on now? ya know what I am talking about!!!! Bye!


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:22 pm ET

VERY well said Annie LV.


syltoots   July 21st, 2009 10:23 pm ET

i believe Joe & Leonard have something to hide; it is obvious
AEG not surprise there on their comments
Debbie. no suprise either she has done it before

when you do a recap there are alot of loop holes
appearance at concert, chin, walk, same repeated messages, voice
doctor living at his house while he had clean bill of heath
did not know address; couldn't find a phone, first aid on soft surface
could not find him for three days, then returns with a lawyer
Hmmm?

some people no scars others say yes
there must be an MJ impersonator
a terminal ill gentleman (that is why all the prescription etc ...
then real MJ left on a private plane

for the children. we have never really seen their faces
first time for me, was at the memorial
are they the same three children who were behind the veils??

there is a loop with
Joe denying abuse & verbal comments made
not pushing for answers; learned about MJ from a fan??
Leonard there is definetely something weird there
AEG stand to gain; can't wait to proceed with rehearsal shots
would love to have a look at the contract with AEG

have any of you watched & listened to navi??
why would a fan have surgery to resemble an entertainer
quite a drastic move even for a fan
it is ironic he also had a 'nose surgery'
he even was invited by MJ; while probably rehearsing together
was married to a presley, we all know the possibility elvis is still alive; perhaps lisa marie gave MJ an inside tip

for me, I don't think he is gone
i think the impersonator who died was a terminally ill patient
explain the doctor being there, prescriptions, iv poles
explain why sometimes no marks & sometimes marks

on rehearsal is came to life, laughing & enjoying himself
yet, next day disaster .... what gives here, sometimes went wrong
or was it planned to roll it in such a way
explain to me the 32 minute delay in calling
why was third person in the room on the call so calm
calling there is a gentleman ... come on you are talking about MJ & he was not responding

what was in the doctor's car; i might have missed it
something inside the plane is also weird

all impersonators & MJ had the same 'makeup face' & mask
read somewhere the michael jackson project

after careful observations of the entire event .... there is something quite strange & weird

just wish I would've had the chance to tell mike ....


John   July 21st, 2009 10:24 pm ET

Hey Larry
Tell Les Chaney to get her facts straight before she opens her mouth.Us Canadians do pick our own Doctors, also we have a choice to pick what specalists we want ,your Doctor might recommend one but that doesnt mean you have to take him. Does she have a personal vendetta against Barack Obama(because he is trying to clean up the MESS that Daddy and George got you into and he is doing a Great Job!!!!)He is the best President your country has had in a Long,Long Time.


Sheryl   July 21st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

One more comment: If Liz Cheney is EVER on your show again, I will not waste my time. (I didn't want to miss your segment on Michael Jackson so I continued to battle through that horrible Cheney segment.) Normally I enjoy James Carville – I don't always agree with him, but I enjoy him nonetheless. He wasn't allowed to say a thing. Please book him opposite someone he can really go head to head with – no LIZ CHENEY ever!


Pam   July 21st, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Vicki, yes of course I know people sometimes don't remember things because they don't "give a rat's butt"..(your words) but I have worked with people who have dementia and I believe that it is possible that Joe is in the early stages of dementia. It's not just his "refusal" to answer questions or appearing to be avoiding the answers. If you watch various tapes of him since the Michael's death, he appears to be searching for words, as if he is having trouble getting the words out. At times he also appears confused, like he did on Larry's show last night. I understand that he is probably not telling where Michael is buried in an effort to keep people away but there are any number of times that he appears unable to track the converstation with Larry and the other guest. This is no excuse for his treatment of Michael. That is a separate issue. I just believe there is more going on here than any of understand.


nancy bauer   July 21st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

larry, In your segment with James Carville and Liz Cheney I am still trying to understand why you had Liz on as a guest. Liz Cheney has absolutely no credentials as a guest. Moreover, she was really rude, inconsiderate and unwilling to answer any question. And why is she an expert?? As I see it her only claim to fame is being the daughter of our former vice president. Pathetically Dick Cheney insists on defending his flawed policies and uses his daughter as his mouth piece. Shame on you for giving Liz Cheney a platform she has not earned nor does she deserve.To put her on the show as an equal to James Carville is insulting to James Carville and to the intelligence of the audience. Guests such as Liz Cheney only continue to fan the flame of stupidity of the wacko right wing . Why does the media give Liz Cheney the time of day? James and your audience deserve more from you. Nancy Bauer, Atlanta, Ga.


KC   July 21st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

To all those complaining about covering illegal immigrants health care, can I remind you that US citizens visiting European countries get free health care there if you need emergency treatment. Also, can I add my voice to those Canadians calling out Liz Cheney on the issue of being able to choose their doctor – I'm British and I got to choose my own too! And the process is far easier than it is here with health insurance! All you do is take your National Health Service card to the new doctor, make an appointment (which are within 2 business days unless it's an emergency in which case someone will see you immediately). Then when you go in, they give you a full check up, see your medical history in full since it's all online there, and that's it. Also, guess how much the visit costs? Nothing.


Judith   July 21st, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Liz Cheney is doing what she does best,look out for the right wing party of No.

They are afraid of President Obama.That's why they are fighting so hard throwing all kinds of lies out there.From Health Care to his birth record.Even Lou Dobbs is getting on the wagon about his birth record which is false.He seems like he's getting like Glen Beck the more he speaks on CNN.
President Obama has been born in the USA.The Seal is on the record.If the GOPs do not believe it than I guess everyone of us that are True American citizens that have raise seals on our Records are than not a citizen including everyone in the House and Senate.

Bottom Line how many people really knew of Liz until her father Dick kept being in the news after Bush went back to Texas and he said he was going to retire,do lots of fishing and play with the grandchildren
then decided to go after the new President and bought a place in Washington.What kind of a man mostly a VP would have his daughter go on Fox News 9x out of 11 weeks flapping her jaws about her father not doing nothing wrong.Seems the ones that yells the loudest are the ones that try to hide what they don't want others to know.

Liz Cheney is rude.Everytime James open his mouth she spoke.This
is when you Larry should have told her if she continued you would have to tell her she can't be on the air.James left her speak.Every time you told her not to butt in she laugh thinking it's a joke.

As far as the Health Care and these GOPs who keep saying the American people do not want it is a lie.It's a small %.They are pushing this lie out where there are many that know themselves Ins are going crazy.If someone is laid off with Ins and a spouse is sick when they get another Job another Ins can say No we will not give you Health Ins.
The GOPs use the word illegals hoping it will work.It's no more an issue of illegals but the Real American that Need Ins.

How many from the Senate get campaign money along with perks by voting No for the lobbyist of Ins Companies.These Ins Companies are paying over a million dollars a day fighting this.Then they have the gull to charge people high premiums.When is this going to stop.

These GOPs who think they are going to break Obama feel it's a game and the American will be the losers if we don't get the Health Care.
It's Time for all the Demos to stick together as one just like what the Party of No (reps) and get their 60 votes.

The People wanted Change and we voted for Obama to be President and the change we don't want is the games of Washington who are out of touch with the American People.


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 10:28 pm ET

—Umuhire
Amen.


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Conspiracies are detrimental to the legacy he left us with his music and beautiful children. Those children could not have been part of something such as mourning a stranger.

Please people. Do not disrespect his memory by adding conspiracies like Elvis was seen at the local diner eating fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

Have we not evolved past this type of insane thinking yet?


syltoots   July 21st, 2009 10:29 pm ET

Liz Cheney totally disrespectful the other invited guest
constantly interrupting him while he did not
let her know this behaviour is not acceptable
hard to follow when two people are talking
or else do not invite her anymore

plus she knows diddley squat about the Canadian health care system
get informed Liz, then will talk
by the way ..... look in the mirror you might be surprised who you will see ... for tonight you were just rude & wanted the spotlight to herself


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 21st, 2009 10:30 pm ET

Sheryl - the sheer fact that you are protesting Lz Cheney's being booked means that Larry's team will be sure to book her again and again. It's all about ratings. They know she irritates people - and that's why, unfortunately, she'll be back...


toots   July 21st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

Liz Cheney totally disrespectful the other invited guest
constantly interrupting him while he did not
let her know this behaviour is not acceptable
hard to follow when two people are talking
or else do not invite her anymore

plus she knows diddley squat about the Canadian health care system
get informed Liz, then will talk
by the way ..... look in the mirror you might be surprised who you will see ... for tonight you were just rude & wanted the spotlight to herself


Ann   July 21st, 2009 10:31 pm ET

To Vicki (comment on Black In America 2),

Regarding Black in America 2 ) is needed because issues facing African Americans have not been fully answered. To say that 100 years have passed and to move on shows your lack of understanding. In parts of our country today segration still goes on. Charleston, Miss had their first intergrated prom in 2008 and still some White parents complained. So the story of African Americans need to be told. Also the 1965 (Voting Rights Act) was passed to enforce rights that was given to newly freed Slaves after the Civil War, but yet states still found ways to deny access to the political arena. The Year 1965 was NOT 100 years ago. You have to face the past in order to heal from it. It would be wrong to say to a Holocaust survivor "get over it" move on from the pain.


Donna   July 21st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

SHAME on show producers for booking ignorant guests like Liz Cheney. The show looses credibility by doing this,


Sheryl   July 21st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

Yes, I know, and I'll tune in to watch Rachel Maddow.


Michelle Lobo   July 21st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

Hey Larry, I love to watch all the updates that u r putting out about MJ. I feel that the people who are guilty should get the punishment...esp the doctors who were in reality just drug peddlers, wrongfully providing him dangerous drugs.. I really hope and wish that they get some punishment for their heinous crime. I also feel so sad for MJ after seeing Joe Jackson's interviews..who wouldn't feel lonely and use drugs after having such a greedy and mean father and an awful childhood.. I just cried for MJ, thinking how lonely he must have been. I wish the world had been more sympathetic and less judgmental of MJ when he was alive. I really believe that if we had showered even half the love that we do today on MJ, he would have been alive. And lastly, I would be really happy and satisfied if that Martin Bashir also receives some form of punishment. I mean he was the one who literally destroyed MJ's reputation. If he was so true in his documentary, why did he edit the good parts like where he praises MJ for being a good father. He cunningly edited and showed only negative things. I dont know how his conscience allowed him to speak about MJ after his death.


fred   July 21st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

LARRY, PLEASE GO TO FACTORY FARMINGAND CHECK OUT THE BARBARRACK , CRIMINAL WAY THESE ANIMALS ARE TREATED. ALL IN THE NAME OF GREED. THERE MUST BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BUT WONT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PART OF IT. WHY ELSE WOULD IT BE ALLOWED TO GO ON. HOW WAS IT EVER APPROVED TO START.I WAS RAISED IN POWHATAN AND ASHLAND VA. IN THE EARLY 50S TO THE MID 60S. WHERE THE ANIMALS HAD HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF PLUSH GRASS TO RUN IN. AND SHELTER FOR BAD WEATHER.FARMING IS VERY HARD WORK, BUT VERY REWARDING.ITS A PART OF MY LIFE I ALWAYS LOOK BACK ON TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THINGS IVE DONE IN MY LIFE. THIS SHOULDNT BE GOING ON ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, MUCH LESS AMERICA. PLEASE CHECK IT OUT LARRY. THANKS.........FRED { FORMER FARMER} LEHIGH ACRES FLORIDA


Annie LV   July 21st, 2009 10:33 pm ET

@ KC

I was in a British hospital for a month and had health insurance that would have covered me over there and was never asked for any type of payment. Whereas my travel companion had no insurance and was billed and had to sign a financial agreement and go before a Judge before being flown back to US. She sent payments for years.


william g. evans   July 21st, 2009 10:37 pm ET

On health care. It seems all this bickering is about the very people that has stiffed us all these years. The insurance company's. It seems that some of our so called protectors of the people are trying to make sure that the insurance co.'s still remain in charge. i was watching the journal this A. M. and this republican senator said he only pays 300 dollars a month for his coverage and we pay the other 600 dollars with our taxes. Why can't we have a sweet deal like that? Has anyone out there seen the Documentary SICKO? if so what do you think of it? I lived in Detroit Mi. for 66 years and spent lots of time in Canada and had a chance to talk to lots of it's citizens. Not one I spoke to would trade insurance coverage with us. My got a fish hook stuck in his arm when he was about 8 years old and it didn't cost anything at the hospital.This occured about 30 years ago. Let me hear from others on this subject. When should get behind our President as he tries to correct our former mistakes not only here at home but abroad.


Terry Harper   July 21st, 2009 10:39 pm ET

I was very disappointed and disturbed to see the personal attacks on Mr. Joe Jackson and Mr. Rowe last night. They were questioned with biases. There was no one there to contradict them however the American people were left with assumptions from Larry Kings Show because of the attacks against these two gentlemen. And tonight there were two gentlemen speaking as to Michael Jackson's relationship with his family and they weren't any more qualified to address this touchy subject anymore than Mr. Rowe. In addition, they did not represent the Jackson family and had direct knowledge of what actually happened during that period where Michael accused his father of abusing him. There should have been a spokesperson for the Jackson family and not two individuals who are trying to increase their rating and no one attacked their comments and their expressions were only their opinions just as Mr. Jackson and Mr. Rowe were however they were not attacked in the same manner as Mr. Jackson and Mr. Rowe. It is of record that Mr. Rowe has a shady history however of the promoters, attorneys, doctors, agents and other affiliated with Michael Jackson were just as shady and only after the profits they were making on Michael. Everybody wanted something from Michael so please express with accuracy.


Amanda $ -IL   July 21st, 2009 10:40 pm ET

AEG & Sony are so damn greedy.. I use to like Sony too. Ugh. :|


Gary Douglas   July 21st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

Hi Larry,

Unfortunately I only caught a bit of what you and your guests were
talking about in terms of health reform at the top of the show. What puzzled me though, is what one of your guests stated about the Canadian style health system that individuals do not have a choice in choosing a doctor. I live in Canada, and that statement is false. We do, in Canada, have a choice. I can choose any doctor
that I wish to choose. All you need is a health card. Every Canadian
citizen is entitile to one.

Gary Douglas


Donna   July 21st, 2009 10:44 pm ET

Yea, if you want to watch a truly informative show that goes right to the source and books quality guests and experts who actually know what they're talking about, check out Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. I'm only tuning in to Larry for the MJ coverage and because I lost MSNBC on my cable. Now have to watch it on-line the next day. Larry, you're lovely but your (or your producers) choice of guests is sometimes questionable.


Judith   July 21st, 2009 10:46 pm ET

Michael's daughter Paris had said when daddy was in the doctor's room getting oxygen they were not to go in there.I'm sure Michael didn't want to mix the children up saying daddy needs med to sleep so they used that word 'oxygen'.

The day he died the police couldn't find the doctor for many hours.Is this the time the doctor took what he was doing and hid it?
Why wasn't the doctor there when they came to help?Did the doctor put him under to sleep and had to go to the bathroom or felt tired himself or went to get something to eat then when he came back Michael was at a point of no return?So many questions and I wonder if the doctor will really tell what happen.


Isabel (Canada)   July 21st, 2009 10:48 pm ET

Hey fellow Canadians....I am so proud of you for your comments regarding Liz Cheney's inaccuracy on our Health Care System, but surely you can see what she is trying to do, can't you? She is trying to convince the AMERICANS that Obama's Health Care Reform is "bad for their health", pardon the pun. I can certainly understand the Republicans voting against it, after all, the Republican philosophy is: to help keep the less fortunate within poverty, to make certain that the middle class pay most of the taxes so that they can never prosper, and for the Conservative Republicans to continue padding their own pocketbooks and maintain their wealthy life-styles, but I cannot understand why some Democrats are against it.

Obama's program makes sense; it will provide health care for ALL AMERICANS. If they adopt a program similar to that in Canada, taxed fairly toward health care, the program WILL WORK.

I would like to know where CNN is getting their numbers regarding Obama's popularity dropping in percentage. Are they pollling only Republicans?

This President truly cares about the average American. Why are Americans allowing themselves to be so easily influenced against him by the media?


Ann Lock   July 21st, 2009 10:50 pm ET

I wrote a comment earlier but not sure it was received so....

Liz Cheney needs to get her facts straight about Canadian Health Care. She and the Republican party should take a poll in Canada to see how many would trade our system (although not perfect) for the American system.

We are not told what Doctor to go to and never have been. We are free to make that choice. As far as waiting for treatment, I was diagnosed with Cancer on a Friday and had my surgery on a Monday morning. I had fantastic treatment and follow up for 9 years with 99% of my meds completely covered. Nor did I have to declare bankruptcy after diagnosis.

There is no such thing as a pre-existing condition nor are we declined care because we don't have coverage.

I don't know what the Republicans are afraid of. It works in many other countries as well as Canada.

What are they really worried about???


EO, San Diego   July 21st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

Logically, Mj's fans and likely the general public would be thrilled to see the footage AEG has of Michael. The people who purchased tickets to see him at O2 in London would be thrilled as well. So how should AEG have done this to make everyone happy? Give it away??

Bottom line, AEG had pumped a lot of money into the concert series. Had given Michael a lot of cash (in the tens of millions) upfront. It is *reasonable* to assume they should be able to recoup some of the money they have spent.

Remember, AEG and Sony are not the ones who are making the vast majority of profit of this film. It will be Michael's children and mother (unless Joe continues to push till she gets disinherited).

Isn't that what we all want? The money to go to Michael's family? If so, then why are we complaining? That is exactly where it's going.


Kim Diedrich   July 21st, 2009 10:52 pm ET

I do not understand why there was talk about the molestation charges on Larry King to Mr. Joe Jackson. His son is dead. For whatever reason reporters feel it necessary to rehash this (very) old topic-when it was apparent how much it distressed Michael Jackson; and at the same time talk about how much they loved and respected Michael. I personally never believed the allegations, and was shocked at the lack of public support for him at the time. All of the clips now coming out as to his humanitarian efforts, his lovely home, life events such as the Lifetime achievement awards in Music; his family, and even ex-wife making statements that paint him entirely different than the hell he went through during & after that accusation. Where were all of you then? Why wasn't the truth painted more vividly about his injuries when it would have helped him? The media should be ashamed of itself for the hideous debacle they made of Michael's life. Wacko Jacko? I would have sued them til they could not see straight. He may not have been like most men in some respects, but you know, in some ways I would not have wanted him to be. His beautiful work in "We Are The World" & ("It Don't Matter If You're) Black or White is the Beautiful Michael I will remember. Much comfort & love to his children, family, and real friends.


Scott   July 21st, 2009 10:55 pm ET

Sarah Palin is not an idiot or a moron.She is a successful, intelligent woman who has become Public Enemy #1 in the eyes of lefty lunatics. I think back to when Larry had that disgusting "comedienne" Kathy Griffin who blathered about Sarah being a moron. I ask this simple question: Why are left-wing comedians – Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Sandra Bernhard, Janeane Garofalo, Wanda Sykes – so full of hate?


s.s.   July 21st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

It would be nice if Liz & James could debate without the equivolent of name calling, finger pointing, & interupting so much that we can't understand what in the world they're talking about.

I'm so tired of hearing about who sleeps with who! Who cares! Leave that to the wives & husbands to figure out.

I'm also really tired of hearing about Sarah Palin. Everything time she or 1 of her kids makes a trip to the restroom it's reported on tv.

I can't wait to see the MJ movie in October. I can't seem to stay away from this story although somtimes it is taken too far. But I will take the opportunities presented to celebrate his life & work. RIP MJ.


katherine   July 21st, 2009 11:00 pm ET

Leave our Health System alone- it works for us. Canada takes care of it's own and any else that needs mediacal care nobody is turned away can you proudly say the same for the american health system.


Wayne Ferguson   July 21st, 2009 11:01 pm ET

I keep hearing American politicians say the Canadian Government
tells Canadians what doctors they can or must go to for treatment.

This is a total lie and unless they are to stupid to check on a few
facts they would know it and probably do, but if you haven't got good
information and facts to state lie lie lie.

If you require medical attention in Canada (any Province) you go to
the Dr. of your choice and he treats you as he sees fit withouth
ever contacting and level of government or insurance company
for approval of any procedures he performs. Emergency treatment
can be obtained at any hospital at no cost.

Wake up you GOP's. Try telling the truth.


Rhonda   July 21st, 2009 11:01 pm ET

PLEASE DO NOT stop airing shows about Michael Jackson just yet. Larry, you seem to be one of the few journalists that is getting to the real truth about his life and MJ soooo deserves it. I have never been a fan nor have I bought any of his records. I have spent countless hours in front of the tv and computer since Michael passed. It is so obvious that he was abused and mistreated and misunderstood his whole life. WHY couldn't all of these things have come out before he died so he could have been more understood. I have actually cried over this. God help those kids if Joe Jackson gets a hold of them. That would be Michael's worst nightmare come true. Just because Michael loved being with children doesn't make him a child molester. He was just more comfortable with them. I am the same way. It seems like the media never had one good thing to say about him, Just like Joe Jackson. I couldn't believe that Joe Jackson seemed to know so little about his own son. I found a video of Michael where he told that one time he was riding on a plane and his dad criticized his nose. Hence, all the nose jobs. The molestation seemed to take him down and he couldn't recover. It seems the drugs just got the best of him as they have so many others BUT the people that were inabling him out to be hung. It was all about greed instead of taking care of and loving a man who always said, "no I love you more". His biggest joy was getting super soakers and water balloons. Just a big loveable kid at heart. SO I ASK THE WORLD.........WHAT THE 'H' IS WRONG WITH THAT????? Who says that we HAVE to grow up???? Maybe the world would be a better place if more people looked at it through Michael Jackson's eyes. PLEASE keep humanizing him!!!! He deserves it and I hope he is looking down and watching you and saying thank you Larry. "We are the World"


william g. evans   July 21st, 2009 11:02 pm ET

I want to applaud all you Canadians for speaking up for your health care system. Now to Vickie on Black in America. i am 75 years old and went to school in Detroit Mi. and never did have the chance to learn about my people's contributions to the building of this country, it was as if we did not exist. Now you and the rest of the country has a chance to learn of our accomplishments to this country you should take advantage of it. Maybe if you open up your eyes and heart just maybe you will have a better understanding of the obstacles we as a people had to and still overcome. It hasn't been a easy road. I hear a lot about affermative action. Do you know you have had affermative action eversince this country was formed


Hiawatha Y.   July 21st, 2009 11:04 pm ET

It is very apparent that Joe Jackson is a self-centered man. He truly does not have a clue of the effects of his abusive actions to his children and more over his son, Michael. He is in denial.
I am very delighted that the whole world now see the abuse that Michael and his family suffered under the name of discipline. Children can be disciplined without physical , verbal and mental abuse.
You allowed the world to see Joe Jackson," Not a pretty picture." He made a complete fool of himself and should reframe from interviews with the media. If not careful Joe Jackson will jeopardize the custody case of Michael's kids.
.


william   July 21st, 2009 11:04 pm ET

only the Lord know the truth RE Joe Jackson & his childrenm mainly Michael ...so pls only the Lord judges..Mrs Jackson knows the truth..but she has too much class & dignity to say anything...she lost a son..fortunately the 3 children are dear to her...it will help...


Dolce   July 21st, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Why did Larry have on two men with the same opinion about the Joe Jackson/Loenard Rowe interview. This proved a very unbalanced segment as the two bashed Jacskson and Rowe as if none of the stated claims of AEG's conduct could possibly be true. Don't be so quick to dismiss the accusations made against AEG. They are concert promoters– a profession not known to be rooted in ethics and morals.

Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe accompanied Michael Jackson to a meeting with AEG three weeks before Michael died. Whether or not Joe's personality appeals to you, Michael chose to have his father and Rowe at that meeting for a reason. For some reason Michael felt he needed back-up.

Joe said he insisted Michael be paid in pounds not lesser valued dollars, he says AEG's Randy Phillips respnded saying by the time the tour started, the dollar would be worth more than the pound! Do you really think Joe made this up?

Try to get past the rugged personalities and the skin color (yes the skin color let's be real here) of Jackson and Rowe, those qualities which may not reflect your personal choice in a business associate or a friend.

What would make Michael Jackson bring his father (who the media continues to insist Michael wanted nothing to do with) to a meeting with AEG, the promoters of the biggest professional endeavor of his life?


william g. evans   July 21st, 2009 11:09 pm ET

Larry when will you and the rest of the news media really do and indepth discussion on health care here and in Canada and other European countries and western countries, even Columbia. Maybe the citizens of this country will wake, or are you and the rest of the news media in cahoots in keeping the truth hid


A.   July 21st, 2009 11:10 pm ET

I just want to say this! I live in Ontario and i have had FANTASTIC healthcare, furthermore so has everyone in my family. Sure we could use more doctors and Nurses, to avoid long waits at the ER. but guess what they all move to the US so they can make the big dollars!
ANything deemed life threatening is treated right away. And tests are odered when they need them. So take it from a canadian. the healthcare systen rocks here. And i find it absoultely ridiculous that the US doesnt have the same healthcare sysytem. Dont be afraind of this change it will benefit so many people who cannot afford to get the proper care that they need. Thank God for OBAMA! he's just trying to make a better life for US citizens.


Isabel   July 21st, 2009 11:16 pm ET

Larry, I have always liked you. I look forward to watching your show, but tell me this. Why would you have Joe Jackson on your show Monday night, only to discredit him on Tuesday night? You knew ahead of time the kinds of answers you would get out of him, judging him by his character. He's the perfect Patsy. This was well planned on CNN's part. Let's make a mockery out of Joe Jackson.

If Joe wasn't so stupid, he would never have agreed to go on your show knowing the kinds of questions that would be asked of him.

Joe would never view his punishment toward his children as 'abuse.' Back in those days, most fathers abused their children, believing it was discipline, the right thing to do.

Regardless of his state of mind, his son, Michael Jackson should not have died under these circumstances. The powerful have many ways of getting what they want. AEG has more power than Joe Jackson.


Arlene Lamont   July 21st, 2009 11:21 pm ET

Please tell your audience that here in Canada, we pick the doctor of our choice.

We are not restricted by any company "plan" as to who we can see.

All doctors are "covered" for all Canadians.

Clearly Ms Cheney does not understand this.
Or.........................?? choses not to understand that these restrictions only apply to American citizens for choice of doctor, not to anyone in the system in Canada.


TiaJ   July 21st, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Joe Jackson did what he had to do as a black man to get a better life for him and his family during that time. Think about it between 1950 and 1969 blacks were being water hosed, beaten and dehumanize like wild animals by white men. Was it okay back then. I don't think so... People must understand that in many black homes and many other homes around America parents did spank their children, I had my share of spankings. That didn't mean that our parents loved us any less.

You guys aren't giving Joe a chance nor are you giving the Jackson family a chance to grieve. I am sure that we have all fallen short of sin "Larry" look back at your past. By the way, if you go on youtube and search for Michael Jackson interview with Geraldo many people will see that Michael mentioned some good things about his father. But of course CNN doesn't get great ratings for the postive.

What we must remember, is that we as a society have never lived with the Jacksons nor will we ever live with them. So to all the MJ famliy sources out there, get a life and start exposing your family for all of their flaws. There is no perfect family.


melinda   July 21st, 2009 11:32 pm ET

Why is the media all the sudden interested in seperating truth from fiction? They've been reporting how this is going to be a homicide for weeks, and now that Joe is claiming foul play, they're interested in the facts. Joe is offering his opinion which he has a right too. The media has been all this garbabe for weeks but no accountability for them I guess


Dr. Gayle   July 21st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Why do you people think we (African Americans in particular and lay people in general) are so dumb!
AEG will make a lot more money off sellilng the many hours of videotapes where Michael is sure to show up rather than taking the risk on 50 concerts, 10 of which and probably all of which ,Michael in his soul wanted to perform, but due to his condition- medically ,if the diseases of lupus and vitiligo are true- as well as his admitted addictions and probable non-disclosed and/or understood addictions- he could not perform....AEG stands to make more profit from the release of the video tapes than from the sold-out concerts. Ergo, Joe and the former concert promoter are probably speaking more TRUTH than the media, though I am impressed with Larry King's seeming objectivity and compassion last night more so than tonight's return to people-pleasing performance versus heart-felt concurrence and tonight's "frustration" versus last night's empathy and understanding of Joe's comments. Larry, I know you are old, but keep the intestinal fortitude that made you so popular and do not sell out to your producers! My deceased father and I used to watch you together and I know you are very influential without the bias that your contmporaries such as Rush Limbau and Bill O'Reilly and even Anderson Cooper et al display. You are as close to a high-tech 21sat century Walter Cronkite as anyone out there, except Bryant Gumbel on Real Sports! Please do not let us down by selling out to the signers of your paycheck. Bigots do not see their behavior as racisit like that congresswoman who blasted the National Colored Peoples Chamber of Commerce representative..you know to whom I am referring on both counts. Michal was very mysterious and had issues as do we all, but most of his problems stemmed from being a Black Entertainer who had religious principles that the world mocked. I want his gentleness and kindness to be as sincere as he claimed, thoug I , too found it strange that he did not have a real wife and children of his own. Many women besides Debbie Rowe would have given birth to children in the natural way of conception for Michael. When Lisa Marie left him without doing so and Debbie left him, I suspected drugs were an issue since this is the case with so many men in our times. Drugs and pornography have replaced what God intended to be the bond between a man and his wife..perhaps because Adam replaced what God wanted between Himself and Adam with the love Adam felt for Eve when he idolatrized her. All I know is that neither Lennon, nor McCartney, nor John-John have been raked through the coals as the media is doing Michael and the Jackson family..Give us a break!!


tumpa7867   July 21st, 2009 11:35 pm ET

Please repeat the Larry King Live program aired on Monday, July 20, 2009, during this weekend. The program featured an interview with Joe Jackson and Leonard Rowe.


s.s.   July 21st, 2009 11:38 pm ET

Thanks for clearing the health care situation up Canadians!

I've been so confused. U hear another story everytime some1 opens thier mouth. Where's the truth?

Larry, you need to do an in depth show on the health care proposal...or a few of them. Americans deserve to know the truth!

I WANT FACTS...NOT MYTHS & HALF TRUTHS OR OUT RIGHT LIES!

All americans deserve to have good, affordable healthcare...not just the ones with great jobs or the wealthy! In the long run it helps us all by increasing competition which drives costs down further and gives us more options not fewer. And yes we'll have to get the money from somewhere but do we actually think our financial situation is going to be better if we don't change the system???? I don't think so.

As for Joe & the abuse...MJ said there was abuse but he obviously forgave on some level because he still had relationship w/ joe till the end...maybe not the best 1 but still they had 1.

I don't think it's right to hit, spank, beat whatever u call. Some kids end up scarred for life even if it was just a "spanking". Parents don't mean to scar their kids for life. They only want to discipline them. But what is important is how your child perceives it & how it affects them in the end...not what u mean for it to accomplish. It may not affect some kids but it might affect more sensitive kids for life. Personally i wouldn't take the chance. There are other more effective ways 2 discipline that will not harm them.


Ferrell Beleshko   July 21st, 2009 11:39 pm ET

Where does Liz Cheney get off on using Canada and the U.K. as negative models. The facts she is spewing out are incorrect and nothing but a propoganda statement. In Canada we always choose our Dr., our life expectancy is higher than Americans, our costs are lower and quality of care is on par with the U.S. The Canadian and U.K. systems are not perfect.. QUIT The lies and the bold face lies and attacks on Canada and U.K. Health Care.


RazZ from Canada   July 21st, 2009 11:40 pm ET

a) I'm a Canadian. We LOVE our health care, considering the option we could have, when looking at the American option. I have never once woken up worrying about where I will get care for myself, my wife or my son. Tomorrow, I'm going to go out and pick myself a doctor, just to prove Rosemary's baby wrong (See below).

b) Liz Cheney, considering her pedigree, that's not at all surprising, but it sickens the stomach to think of the levels the Republicans will stoop just to wail and scream, and divert the big topics.

c) The U.S. is on a decline. The entire planet can see it. With the wasteful media coverage about M.J., and countless other celebs, the pundits bringing a plague to television, politicians who only care about lining their own pockets...well....sadly, within 50 years I forsee the U.S. heading into a civil war, between the armies of the foolish, and the ignorant.

d) No, I have no interest in being a commentator on Lou Dobbs, so please, withhold the offer.


Michelle   July 21st, 2009 11:44 pm ET

After watching Liz Cheney speak on Larry King today I beg for a Palin/Cheney ticket in 2012. President Obama will win without even having to campaign. Oh yeah Liz Cheney said she has too much on her plate right now. I suggest the first thing she takes care of is introducing herself to reality.


Ferrell Beleshko   July 21st, 2009 11:45 pm ET

Larry CNN needs to do an indepth story on the Canadian and U.K. Health Care systems so that people like Liz Cheney can actually learn something about alternative health care systems in the world.

Look it is simple, your health care system is failing, you have almost 50 million people without health care. How can the wealthiest country in the world that claims to be the free world leaders allow this ? Basic healthy care should be a fundamental right. Look at out countries, take the good of what you learn and meld it into you system. The U.K. system would not work as well in Canada as it does in the U.K., each country needs the right blend for there needs. The main issue is your countries health care is falling apart and leaving people behind, all the while profits are climbing.. it is no longer about health and strictly about profit...!


Remedios   July 21st, 2009 11:56 pm ET

Roger Friedman is nothing but a journalist whose lies have been debunked time and time again. He was fired from Fox. When Michael was alive all he did was bash him. Look up his articles where he calls him Jacko, as in Wacko Jacko. Now he wants to act like he is some expert on Jackson family matters. I have no respect for him at all.

I find it interesting that these rags omit the fact that Michael said he forgave his father several years ago and that he was a much nicer person now. Moreover, he has been in Michaels' life. During the trial he could be seen on many occasions holding his son's hand. There is a video on You Tube where Michael and Janet threw him a party narrated by Michael. Also, in addition to their business dealings which Michael did try to limit, Joe was at Paris's birthday party in April.

Furthermorre, according to Marlon, Michael and the kids were in Vegas with them in May celebrating Joe and Katherine's 60th wedding anniversary.

This Joe bashing needs to stop. There is no prescribed way to grieve when you lose a loved one. Public displays of emotions are generally not something black men from his era do well.

Don't let these rag journalists tell you what is going on in the Jackson family home or relationship. This is just speculation, rumor and gossip.

With all this being said, I think once Katherine gathers herself, she will put Joe in check about all this talking. I notice in every interview they have ever done together, he tends to defer to her. He's just a little wild right now :)


Julie from Vermont   July 22nd, 2009 12:01 am ET

Larry, you have the patience of Job,

Joe Jackson was one of the most difficult interviews I have ever seen you have to do, what a Father, if there is such a word for HIM, certainly must have been glad his children were so talented they could support him all these years, and I will say not up on all of Michael's music, but will say what I know as a 65 yr old, he was very talented and it seemed like a wonderful father, (regardless of addictions) to bad his own Father wasn"t that caring, he came off as such an A* I changed the channel... Katherine must have been a saint to put up with him, she must be glad he lives in LV, that wouldn't be far enough away for me.......


Lori   July 22nd, 2009 12:02 am ET

Just to point out one more time because it burns me up so badly. LIZ CHENEY AND THE OTHER REPUBLICANS GO EDUCATE YOURSELF for once. Canadians pick their own doctors. Government has no say. Stop lying to and trying to instill fear in the American public. Hopefully they are smarter than that. Please somebody confront this on air and tell them they're wrong. I am so sick of the daily bashing that are all lies. Our health care is not perfect but I wouldn't trade it for the U.S. system for anything.


Tif   July 22nd, 2009 12:05 am ET

They need to do more tribute shows to Michael.


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 22nd, 2009 12:08 am ET

Dr. Gayle - THANK YOU for posting that. My sentiments exactly. AEG knows exactly what its doing. They know public curiosity about Michael is at an all-time level, and they will milk it for all its worth. They knew Michael wasn't up to doing 50 freakin' shows. That's why they wanted an MD on the payroll to begin with - whether it was Conrad Murray or one once they arrived in London. AEG is full of it, and I wish people would wake up and really realize what's going on here.


Debbie Zehnder   July 22nd, 2009 12:08 am ET

Please do not have Liz Cheney on your show. She has NO credibility and we do not want to encourage her! So please have someone else!
She is completely full of it and who wants a Cheney in the news?


Spike Wong   July 22nd, 2009 12:09 am ET

Liz: You want ua to return to the path we should be on? Would that be the path that eight years of Bush took us on? That's the right path?


emily   July 22nd, 2009 12:11 am ET

there is no excuse for joe's behaviour and when we try justifying it then we deny the victim, or in this case michael the right and the freedom to say that he didn't agree with what his father did. michael never said he didn't love his father or disrespected his father publically, but there is a difference between spanking and beating someone to perform and this was a claim his siblings supported as well. let's not minimize the pain michael felt, however, people do make mistakes and it is just important for joe to clean up his act and not do anymore of these silly interviews. i don't agree with any of the pain and injustices that were inflicted on michael including the false allegations, but therefore i have to treat his father's abuse just as seriously as michael admitted it had an affect on him.

let's not turn a blind eye to what joe did, which doesn't mean not forgiving him, but it means to better educate ourselves and to learn and improve from past mistakes.

i hope michael's reputation will be restored, he will be allowed to rest from this media circus, and most importantly that the doctors will be held accountable for his death.


Kellie   July 22nd, 2009 12:12 am ET

Larry, please correct what Liz Cheney said about the Canadian healthcare system. I live in Canada, and I can choose my doctor! She should really know her facts, before lying to the American people.


Liza   July 22nd, 2009 12:14 am ET

I am so disappointed with Liz Cheney's comments about Canadian health care. She is using scare tactics to sway the American public.

I am a Canadian and I choose my own doctors.

I am an ovarian cancer survivor, had a baby, had multiple surgeries...each time I had a voice in choosing my doctors and treatment.

In fact, here in Alberta, things have been improving as we move toward even more consistency through the system and access to patient information.

Shame on the Republicans for these lies.


auburncatfish   July 22nd, 2009 12:15 am ET

Thank God!!!!!!! A Larry King without Michael Jackson coverage. The political stuff is waaaaaay waaaaaaay wayyyyyyy better. Thank you dear God for some political King.


Bill Humphrey   July 22nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

Larry, Since the American People pay taxes for our Federal Employees to have healthcare, why do we not have the same healthcare that our Senators and Congresspersons have.

If our Senators and Congress people had no coverage or 3x increase in premiums over wages, what would happen then, how soon would something get approved.

The American People would get an excellent program if the Congress had NO coverage. What then? Thank you Feel free to edit Bill Humphrey


Erin   July 22nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

Liz Cheney's ignorance typifies the lies and fear-mongering that is the Republican Party's M.O. ...

She states that under Obama's healthcare plan Americans risk becoming like the UK or Canada where they are not able to choose their doctor. Get your facts straight Liz!!!

I live in Canada. My family pays a total of $1200 CAD/year for health care. I can walk in to see any doctor I choose. I had a complicated 48 delivery which cost me nothing. My father had a knee replacement which cost him nothing!

The American people would be so lucky to have a plan similar to the UK or Canada.


Lindsey   July 22nd, 2009 12:16 am ET

In response to Liz Cheney's comments on healthcare: As a Canadian citizen, I laugh at how the Republican party loves to villianize our healthcare system. I have never been told which doctor to see or had the government make any decisions into my personal health. I have only received the best care a person could ever wish for. So on behalf of all Canadians, please find a new lie to spread.


E.J.   July 22nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

I think it is sad how quickly Pepsi walked away from MJ as soon as allegations were made, even though MJ was burnt inside and out because of filming their videos. I wonder what Pepsi is really doing now.

I am not here to bash Joe, but I have to agree that we are not judging how he is grieving but it is a bit much for one to make public appearances and to be asked how you are doing and say you are doing fine and in the same breath to promote a new company and never mention your son at any point in time. This didn't happen just once either. He was not forced to do the Larry King interview, and perhaps he shouldn't of because it was a disgrace.

However, my prayers are with the family, and I will continue to always be a huge fan of Michael's as he will always live on in our hearts.


gary wilson   July 22nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

I don't know where Ms. Cheny gets her information from, but I live in Canada and I am able to choose any doctor I want as my family doctor. I am also able to be treated anywhere in Canada with the one healthcare provider we have.


pam   July 22nd, 2009 12:17 am ET

Dear Mr King, I do not protest to be a Rocket scientist... But who introduced the J


Tomas   July 22nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

As a Canadian, its unfortunate that the American politicians on the Rep side are using my health care system in such a negative way.

Your citizens deserve health care, your President is trying to make it possible for those that cant afford it.

Canada health care system has been around for a very long time. Our population is equivalent to that of the population in the US that IS NOT COVERED.

Stop critisizing MY country's healthcare system (that is funded through taxes and covers EVEEYONE) and FIX your county's systems...thats been broken since its inception.

If your country can fund a war in the trillions of dollars, and prop Banks up in the trillions of dollars...it should be able to afford healthcare for ALL of its tax payers. Its should be a right, not a privilage.

AMERICA – WAKE UP
Your republicans were wrong on Iraq, they are wrong on healthcare.

God Bless Canada


Maurice Boisson   July 22nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

Hello Larry
Just some info on the Canadian Health Care system, as I am a Canadian Citizen, we CAN choose our own Doctor.s.


Ken   July 22nd, 2009 12:18 am ET

I know my puny vote means nothing to you, Larry, but I declare. Have Liz Cheney on and I will immediately tune out. She is obnoxious and not capable of having a "conversation", even if she KNEW what she was talking about.


Debbie   July 22nd, 2009 12:19 am ET

Which Canada is Liz Cheney talking about when she says that under our healthcare system we are unable to choose our own doctor? Know your facts!


Alice   July 22nd, 2009 12:20 am ET

I am a Canadian and I chose my own doctor, Liz need to get her facts straight. I also don't have to mortgage my home should I fall ill and require lengthy care and hospitalization unlike my American cousins.
The last thing one wants to think about is money when recovering from sickness.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 22nd, 2009 12:20 am ET

You people have got to be kidding me...

1. Sarah Palin is as touchable as anyone else when her fat mouth gets her into trouble
2. WHo cares if our taxes go up? Seriously? Like you people didn't know that would happen after an unjust and useless war. If you didn't you're idiots and the people typing for you because your motor skills dont' function properly aren't being paid enough.
3. Clinton left a surplus... what happened? [typical republican response... 9/11 happened... actual answer a republican numbskull with a chip on his shoulder and the IQ equivalent a speed bump happened].
4. Oh no! Not preventative medicine?! What ever will reactive medicine do?!

Give me a break people and use some common sense.


Sharon Hobin   July 22nd, 2009 12:20 am ET

Lynn Chaney's comments about health care in Canada are baloney. I have always been able to choose my doctor and for that matter my specialist. I had 2 operations in one year and did not have to wait long at all. My friend is battling cancer and did not wait for a diagnosis nor treatment. Don't listen to those commercials. While I feel sorry for that woman with cancer I think she has some hidden agenda about her story. The producers of that commercial are spreading lies about Canadian health care. I can walk into any walk in clinic or make an appointment with my doctor and always am grateful that I live in Canada.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

Larry?
Why are you giving Liz Cheney so much air time as she speaks about Sarah Palin? WHO CARES ABOUT SARAH PALIN, ANYMORE? She QUIT her job as a Governor....If she can't stand the heat in the kitchen as Governor.....WHY, (for the love of God) would anyone think of keeping her opinion in ANY TV show, radio program....or anything else that gets any AIR TIME at all?....I am a 53 year old woman that is embarrassed by having her....come THAT close to being the Vice-President of the United States. ...Go eat a moose burger and stay out of POLITICS!


Rod Lightheart   July 22nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

Larry;

Please tell your Republican guests on your show that health care in Canada is a great deal.

I keep hearing these creative stories on the air – they make me so angry.

Key facts: I choose my Doctor – I choose my specialist – if I don't like the specialist, I choose another one. I get taken care of in a preventive medical model – not like the U. S. where you have to get sick before you can see someone. And that is usually because people can't afford their care until they absolutely have to.

Tell those people against the Obama plan that they are shooting off about something they don't know about – do you homework guests!

Thanks Larry

Dr. Rod


Joe   July 22nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

James Carville makes me laugh. He thinks the VA is the best system in America? This guy is delusional.

And then he says 60% of bankruptcies are due to health insurance? Uh, James, what about those people that get sick and can't work anymore. How is health insurance going to save them? They're going to be bankrupt anyway.

What Obama is doing is ridiculous. You can't run the local snack stand the way Obama is trying to run the government.


Ange   July 22nd, 2009 12:21 am ET

In response to the guest tonight Liz Cheney – I disagree about what she thinks Canada's healthcare plan is like. I am a Canadian who moved down to the US in the last year and must say I miss my healthcare from back home. Not only do we get to choose our doctors, but our doctors choose our care, not our government and certainly not any insurance company as is the way here. I am scared to get sick down here (even though I have a good insurance plan through work) and will leave the first chance I get if I get sick. When a patient's first thought after receiving a cancer diagnosis is " how much will this cost me", you've got to think something is really wrong with your healthcare system. This sort of thinking is foreign to Canadians – our doctors and government are concerned with our health, not our pocketbooks.


Bea Dee New Westminster BC   July 22nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Only in America, will they find Joe Jackson so newsworthy,

Please CNN, stop harrassing this family, let them be, and quit wasting valuable airtime on Joe Jackson.

Take the time to properly show the Canadian Health Care System,,, we do not wait for Drs. and have the government tell us what to do.

We do however value Health Care. It is not perfect, but everyone gets what they need.

Health Care should not be for profit as it is done in the USA


Gene Schultz   July 22nd, 2009 12:22 am ET

PLEASE, get an A B Switch so we can hear one person at a time.


Nomlas Fisher   July 22nd, 2009 12:23 am ET

Hi Larry; Cheney's daughter said,"under the Canadian Health care system, you could not choose your own Doctot" ,B.S. Where do these people get this information??? I'm 71 yrs old, have been involved in the health system for the last 25yrs. and I have had to see at least 6or7specialist,all of my own choosing, And I waited no longer than 4months to see ALL of those Doctors!!! I have NEVER paid for my medications or for any medical expense!!! and the expenses continue,because of my poor health. My goverment pays thru the system! Yours truly N.F. Vancouver,B.C.


jackie   July 22nd, 2009 12:23 am ET

I am not sure what Liz is talking about I am a Canadian and I have always chosen my own Dr. and my own treatment. She should maybe do some research and know what she is talking about. No has ever told me what Dr. I can go to. All I know is when I get sick and need to see my Dr. I don't have to worry I just make an appointment and go. When I need tests I get them done and I don't have to worry about anything else.


pam brown   July 22nd, 2009 12:23 am ET

a proud Canadian is once again surprised at the ignorance of certain American folks (namely Lis Cheney) who not only don't understand the Canadian Health system but still believe your (American) disjointed rich man receives, poor man goes without health care system is superior. Only the American rich will receive cancer treatment at the drop of a hat – money talks. You speak of Cancer treatment.....millions of your people can't afford to go to a doctor for treatment of the common cold or spend a year or more to repay a bill for a simple fracture repair and x-ray.
We choose our own doctor – one is not assigned to us....WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIZ....maybe you should do your homework before you go on the air – public health care....we take care of ALL of our own. The British and us Canucks have a sweet way of life....the American economy is in a bad way – you're just anti Obama, Liz. Let the man do his job – what you've been doing for years is apparently.....not working – it's a no brainer.


linda   July 22nd, 2009 12:24 am ET

Why do you let Liz Cheney say what she wants to, but whenever Mr.
Carville tries to speak you cut him off or goes to break. It seems you
are bias regarding this subject...i'm surprised!!!


Tracy   July 22nd, 2009 12:24 am ET

If you respect yourself as a host, NEVER have this rude female dog on your show again! The former Vice President did not teach his children any respect for other people and their RIGHT TO SPEAK!! What a woof-woof!

She sets a new low for a 'guest' on a credible information program.

TR


shawn dillon   July 22nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

Hey liz. Where is your credibility on health care. never heard from you for 8 yrs now you're everywhere defending your dad. the va hospitals have capably taken care of evey vet i know


JOE ADDESI   July 22nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

LIZ IS WRONG ON THE BRITISH AND THE CANADIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, WE CAN PICK ANY DOCTOR WE WANT AND THE DOCTORS DON'T PICK WHO GETS TREATMENT AND WHO DOSN'T. NO-ONE IS DYING FROM CANCER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET SURGURY. LIZ SHOULD DO HER HOMEWORK FIRST BEFORE SHE TALKS ABOUT SOMETHING SHE DOSN'T KNOW ABOUT.


J. Cook   July 22nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

I've been following the discussion tonight between James Carville and Mzzzzzzz Cheney. I see I was not wrong .... Mzzzzzzz Cheney appears to be just as rude as her father. Cannot stand to let anothr person express his opinion, just kept butting in and butting in. Full of herself.....not in the least interested in what the American people need in regards to Health Care. I'm willing to bet that she has excellent health care so why should she care less what anyone else needs.


Linda V.   July 22nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

Regarding your show tonight July 21 2009 and Liz Cheney's comment that Canadians don't get to choose their own doctors or have to wait long for cancer treatment, where is she getting her misinformation? I certainly have always chosen my doctors and have friends who got into cancer treatment immediately.

I also got consultations with 6 different specialists without prior approval before choosing a surgeon for an operation I needed and that could never have happened under U.S. insurance plans.

I find there is far less beurocracy with a government sponsored plan than with lousy insurance companies who are trained to deny claims on the first submission as well as have to approve every little visit, or medical procedure beforehand. I think people like Liz don't live in the real world and are providing the American people and their government incorrect information about our health care system. I have yet to hear a Canadian who is unsatisfied with it, yet I could find millions if I polled U.S. citizens who are fed up with the U.S. system.


Bill   July 22nd, 2009 12:25 am ET

I can't believe that Larry King allowed Liz Cheney to dominate the conversation this evening. I want to reach through the TV set and pull off her microphone so she would shut up and let James respond. Clearly, she was using tonight's show to perpetuate the Republican's rehearsed talking points. And Larry, as moderator, you should have interrupted Liz sooner and reminded her this was a talk show just about her!

-Bill
Chicago, IL


Patty   July 22nd, 2009 12:26 am ET

So Liz Cheney is against universal health care .Hmmm, isn't it true as daughter of ex VP Cheney she gets a GOLD PLATED CADILLAC health plan FOR LIFE ? At the expense of the tax payers .But she feels that the common people should not have a safety net when it comes to health care. What an elitist way of thinking .


pam   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Dear Mr King I do not protest to be a Rocket Scientist...But who brought the attention to the Jackson 5 ?? I n my household all of the big decisions were made by the Parents.


kitty furball   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Re: Ms Cheney's comment about we Canadians NOT being able to chose our doctor, along with her party, she NEEDS to learn the facts. As a Cdn, I have ALWAYS been allowed to CHOSE who my GP would be. When a specialist has been needed (including oncologists, orthopedists etal), my GP has ALWAYS offered me choices of whom I select after the GP provides info about those choices. I find the Republican stance on Cdn medicine as an insult of ignorance, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the 'cost' for ALL Canadians to have medical availability. That 'cost' of approx $500 annually thru our tax revenue is pennies compared to what the cost is to US employers &
unemployed/employed US citizens. WE DON'T LOSE OUR HOMES OR SAVINGS or OUR LIVES. We ALL have an extremely affordable health care system. What's the problem with socialism if it provides healthcare as intended v.s. capitalism & no healthcare for the impoverished. Not all poverty is due to unemployment or an unwillingness to work.


Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

I absolutely cannot stand the stupidity and rudeness of Liz Cheney!!!!


Susan McKay   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

The more I follow the debates on US health care reform, the more incensed I get. As a Canadian, I am insulted at the misinformation repeated over and over about our health care system. It has its problems, of course, but long waits are mostly a thing of the past, the government does not decide which doctor you have or what treatment you will get. I have chosen my own doctors all my life. In many instances of illness among my family and friends, treatment was invariably timely. In fact, my husband received his first chemo treatment within days of his cancer diagnosis. I had cataract surgery within four weeks. The only ones deciding on what treatment I will receive is me and my doctors. There are questions only if a treatment is way out of the mainstream. I wish you would show the documentary "Borderline Medicine," narrated by Walter Cronkite as I recall. It compares your system and ours in the most realistic way I have ever heard, even though it was produced many years ago. If your guests are going to comment on the Canadian Medicare system, they should stop believing their own advertising and get the facts straight.


Rose Woodruff   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

Liz Chaney with her ultra-wealthy upbringing is absolutely clueless about how we average Americans live. She keeps talking about the American people as if she speaks for us. It is not her fault that she never experienced American life like most of us middle-class people. Perhaps you could find a Republican who doesn't insult us by speaking her lies as if we support them. Clearly she never had to forgo medical attention because she had to choose between paying the electric bill and getting medical care.

I don't understand why you give you airplay.


Jennifer, Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

I completely and absolutely resent CNN showing an advertisement denigrating our heatlh care system with OUR national flag flying in the background. I do NOT believe the women in th advertisement – not for one minute. And I think it disrespectul to use our national flag, in a debate that is occuring in your country, in such a manner.

I also resent Liz Cheney pontificating about our health care system when it is patently obvious that she knows nothing about it.

We can, and we do, see the physicians of our choice. Our governments in no way interfere with that right. Although our provincial governments are responsible for the health care in each province, the Federal Health Care Act dictates a minimum standard that all provinces must provide. We pay an annual premium (approx $600.00 per year), which is not affected by whether or not we have availed ourselves of the system – in other words, the premium does NOT increase if we have had the misfortune of requiring health care. If your income is below a certain level, you are not required to pay any premiums. The provinces have an agreement amongst themselves which enables us to freely move within the country. If I become ill in another province, my Alberta Health Care Insurance Plan reimburses the host province for all costs incurred by me during my illness. My plan also covers me if I travel out of the country for a nominal cost ($15.00 for up to 3 months).

Twenty-five years ago my father had a massive gastointestinal bleed and was rushed into a tertiary care hospital emergency department. Over the next week he bled 3 more times and received in excess of 20 units of blood, 10 units of fresh frozen plasma, 20 units of albumin, and countless litres of saline. He also had 3 gastroscopies, and when they were unable to determine why he kept bleeding, an urgent angiogram (i.e. done within an hour of it being booked) where they discovered a rare medical condition. Within 2 hours he was in surgery and had an emergency left hemicolectomy. Total hospital stay was 5 weeks. Of all the things my mother had to worry about, wondering how they were going to pay their hospital bill was NOT one of them.

Twenty years ago he was diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma. He was seen by the same surgeon that did his hemi-colectomy (at his request) and had a lymph node biopsy, diagnostic procedures for staging and then was booked to see an oncologist – all before my mother could get home from her holidays. He was seen at the W. W. Cross Cancer Institute in Edmonton, Alberta (whose reputation rivals that of the Mayo Clinc) and had further diagnostic procedures followed by chemotherapy. Over the next 15 years he was followed and treated as needed. He died in 2002 with his cancer, but not because of his cancer – it remained well controlled. Again, my mother and father did not have to worry about how they were going to pay their medical bills – there were none.

In the spring of 2007 my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. Within weeks she had her biopsy, followed by the required staging diagnostic procedures, a mastectomy done by the surgeon of her choice, followed by chemotherapy (offered as a option but not required – she CHOSE to have it). She is doing well and continues to be followed.

in the fall of 2007 my sister was diagnosed with breast cancer. She also had her biopsy within days, followed by all the staging diagnostic procedures, saw the surgeon of her choice (she CHOSE the same suregon that my mother saw), also received chemotherapy, and also continues to be seen in follow-up.

My sister and her daughter are both severe asthmatics and have been hospitalized several times. My sister receives an intravenous treatment evey 6-8 weeks that is not technically a recognized asthma treatment. But because her pulmonogist (who she CHOSE, based on references) suggested it, the drug plan covers it.

My brother developed a severe cellulits of his knee and while in the emergency department of a tertiary care hospital saw an infectious disease specialist, othopedic surgeon and rheumatologist, all within 3 hours of arriving in the emergency department. After the three of them decided on his treatment (NOT impacted by any government input) he was offered the CHOICE of staying in the hospital, or going home and returning twice a day as an outpatient for antiobiotics (he CHOSE to go home).

The important thing is that these were all potentially life threatening illnesses, were all treated with speed and the best of medical attention, and none of them cost any "out of pocket money" other than the usual annual premiums that we pay to help support our system. None of us feel that $600.00 per year is an unreasonable amount of money to pay, nor do we resent the taxes that we pay to support the system. At no time did it even occur to any of us to wonder whether or not our family member could afford to go to the hospital, how much the treatment was going to cost, would it affect their insurance and whether or not their insurance companies would drop them as clients.

Our system is not perfect – but what system is? There are checks and balancs to ensure that our costs do not get out of hand, and discussions are ongoing. There is an increasing emphasis on preventative health care, which is cheaper in the long run than fixing a problem after it has become a severe one.

We have laws that prevent a physician from owning a radiology facility, and then referring their patients to that facility (feathering their own nests?), which is considered in our country to be medically unethical and a conflict of interest. So as American relatives are telling me about all the tests and procedures that they had done, not all of which seems appropriate, I can't help but wonder whether the facility they were referred to is owned by their physician, since the USA does allow this practice,

As a nurse I have met several Americans that have moved to our country because they were diagnosed with a terminal illness and felt that they could not afford to die in their own country. So they move here, pay a nominal amount into our health care system during the productive years that they have, while using our health care sercies at the same time, and then enter our hospital, and die. The money they paid into our system in no way covers what they took out of it. While i feel sorry for them on a personal level, I also find it an abuse of us as Canadians. Then the surviving spouse goes back to the USA. Ultimately, I think that says it all.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:27 am ET

I could VOMIT on that video clip?????? That is the biggest show of RACISM I have ever seen.......What a loser that woman is and WHY would the media keep this going????? Too many pot stirrers in the world....Don't the Republicans have anything else better to do that "deny" that Obama won the election in November??? Wake up people!!!!! Just like whomever is keeping "joe the Plummer" alive as well....He wasn't even a licensed plummer......WHAT a JOKE!!!!!


Ken Singh   July 22nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

Is there any way to make Ms. Chaney to have manners and let someone else take turn to talk. Her consistent interruptions are not just annoying but outright disgusting.
Mr. King you are the moderator and must exercise your responsibility on this issue. I have heard her in the past also and this is her consistent behavior. You may have find an alternate Republican on the forum.


Joe   July 22nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

What's so goofy about Obama not producing his birth certificate? Why so much mystery on him from everything from his

Hey Carville, I'm not delusional. If it's no problem then why not JUST RELEASE THE ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE?????


JACK   July 22nd, 2009 12:28 am ET

Liz Chaney is overcompensating for her fathers bad deeds and she's doing a really bad job..It scares me that she is thinking of someday running for office.


DJ Haynes   July 22nd, 2009 12:29 am ET

Larry: The only thing wrong with the Canadian Health Care system is the American Health Care system. As long as doctors the world over, and in this instance Canadian doctors, have the option to move to the states and earn unrealistic salaries, then "YES" we (the Canadians) will have to live with the fallout. That is to say, we will be forced to endure long wait times. So if your president can fix your system in a manner that places caps on doctor's salaries, the world will breathe relief. (Unfortunately, doctors are among the greediest of us.)

Thanks – DJ Haynes
Newfoundland, Canada


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

Gina,Back in 1958 there was no such thing as "child abuse."It was called being a strict disiplinarian & there was no child protective service to take kids away from bad parents.Therefore Michael & his brothers & sisters just had to deal with it.It's not fair,but that's the way things were then,As for those who say"why didn't Katherine speak up",that just wasn't something a woman did(speak up against her husband)then.


Loretta Schiavo Smith   July 22nd, 2009 12:30 am ET

As a Canadian, I am outraged at the inacurracies that Ms Cheney put forth about the Canadian Health Care System. It is a gross injustice to perpetrate falsehoods as facts.

First of all, Canadians have the right to select their doctors. As a cancer patient in 2006, I selected my oncologist, received a first appointment within a week and was in surgery within two weeks. Radiation followed in a timely fashion after post-surgery recovery. And to be quite clear, I had no inside track nor contacts to expedite this matter.

As a fifty plus woman, this is only one example of a life well lived under Canada's equitable health care. One which turns away no one regardless of economic circumstances or pre-existing medical conditions.


Phyllis Clark   July 22nd, 2009 12:31 am ET

PLEASE do not have that Liz Chaney on again she is so RUDE.


Tom Koester   July 22nd, 2009 12:31 am ET

Please STOP asking Liz Cheney to appear on your show. She is an absolute terrible guest, as she refuses to let others talk. She just objected to James Carville interrupting her when she has no problem interrupting him at any point. The woman has no class and should be banned! At the very least, Larry, take charge of your own show and shut the woman up when your other guests are talking. Sheesh! Who's in charge? You certainly are not. Get it together. No Emmy tonight, for sure. Be an honest host, and tell the woman to let other speak! Otherwise you are nothig more than a Republican shill. Please be an honest broker! Tom Koester


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:31 am ET

and yes Virginia.........I agree with your statement on Liz Cheney....she is stupid and rude at the same time!


momvaughn4   July 22nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

PLEASE DON'T EVER HAVE LIZ CHENEY BACK ON YOUR SHOW! OBVIOUSLY SHE WASN'T TAUGHT ANY MANNERS GROWING UP!


AJ   July 22nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

Ignorant old fools like those who were at that town meeting should have no more influence in the future of this country than little flies. Obama is our future, and if they want to keep pressing for any more legitimacy than is already present for his rightful position as our President, they ought to be forgotten in their nameless little towns.


Rachel   July 22nd, 2009 12:32 am ET

MAN OH MAN.... that Liz Cheney tonight ...is almost as obnoxious as her father. She needs to learn some hard core manners and shut her mouth. A discussion means both people get to talk! In a million years she'll never have the intellect of James Carville.


Momma C   July 22nd, 2009 12:33 am ET

Im sick and tired of working my tail off to pay for someone elses free ride!!!!!!!! My children who were born here are not entitled to anything however people who sneak across our borders to plop a few children on our soil and bam, get access to free health care, school lunch, food stamps, help with paying for college etc. But I have to work 3 jobs and pay out the ying yang for catestrophic health insurance that doesnt pay for regular doctors visits. How am I going to pay for my childrens college??? Stricter immigration laws and NO amnesity and yank all the social services illegals drain from our society and watch how all of a sudden life gets alittle more affordable.


Mary Mickelsen   July 22nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

I typically watch your show, but after watching the exteme views that bascially parrot her father's failed views and policy, I am turning it off. What objective authority does Lynn Chenny have? And did anyone really expect her to have an unbiased informed opinion that was anything but derogatory of a democratic president.? Please don't ever invite her back. (I was a registered Republican before the Bush Chenny Presidency.)


Irma Ramirez   July 22nd, 2009 12:34 am ET

Since when did Liz Chaney earn the credentials to speak on government affairs on national television? Give me a break! Is she Palin's replacement for the Republican Party? I am afraid for our country.


Richard Peet   July 22nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Larry,
Do you need a refresher course in moderating? It sure looked like it tonight when James Carville and Liz Cheney were on your show. You over and over and over and over allowed Cheney to talk over Carville. While you found it funny, I found it extremely frustration. Obvioulsy, your bias for Cheney and the republican party was there for all to see. Tonight Larry King score big points for biased sensationalistic, tabloid reporting.

Shame on you.............


Claire Waines   July 22nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Liz Chaney should get her facts right before making comments about the Canadian Health Care System. I am a Canadian, the doctor I see when required is of my chosing, I am a cancer survivor since 1993 at which time I received the very best of care and still am. We Canadians are all extremely overjoyed that Obama won the election and is trying so hard to help the American people with a health care plan that will benefit all. From the sound of things, dear Liz is sure her father's daughter. Can't get a word in edgewise when she is on any show, even yours Larry.


June Mootoo-Reece   July 22nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Dear Mr King,
I enjoy watching show, however tonight I am really disappointed in
Liz Chenney's comments on Health Care in US becoming like Canada. She said " In Canada we're not allowed to choose our own doctors".
She needs to get her facts 'straight'. I am a Canadian and is allowed to choose or see any doctor I want.

We have a wonderful Health Care program. The USA should be glad that President Obama is trying to pattern his Health Care bill from us.

Thank You
JuneM


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

His birth certificate HAS been reveled, people??? DUH! It's from the state of Hawaii...that's part of the United States, DUH? He wouldn't have been able to run as a senator....DUH? Let alone the President of the United States.....WHERE ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE FROM????? Mars or Venus?


MLC   July 22nd, 2009 12:35 am ET

I don't know which LKL I'm watching – he's got Carville & Cheney on re:the health care plan and there's info re: the eclipse.

I am no longer watching this show when they are on. They are both rude, interrupt each other constantly and employ the tactic of yelling over one another. Larry has no control over Liz particularly, but the "discussion" in general.

Don't you set ground rules for your guests? Carville/Cheney have the same argument everytime I see them and it's getting old. Tell them to have civil discourse or don't have them back. If I want to watch a shouting match I'll tune into Jerry Springer.


Brenda   July 22nd, 2009 12:36 am ET

Cheney's arguments on health care seem truly obtuse. If I hear one more Republican say "do you want the government telling you what your doctor can and can't do..." I am going to scream! It is so much better with the profit driven health insurers taking on that role! I'd much rather have the government, which ostensibly exists to serve the people (vs. to make a profit) promugating guidelines for my care than the current system where companies can make whatever crazy rules they want.

As the consumer, I have no control whatsoever over their actions. A citizen has more power than a consumer in today's employer-funded health care system. The lack of accountability is at the core of what's wrong with our system. It does not play by the rules of true capitalism, where the consumer votes with his pocketbook because the current system puts the power in the hands of employers, who trully have their own interests at heart, and may conflict with their employees. Since employees have no power to influence the decisions, and can't even access basic information (like what the contract provides for) the system is cloaked in confusion and distraction from the customer it should be designed to serve. If the consumer were in control, costs would have come down a long time ago. It is fundamentally broken, and true cost savings will only come when the current system is dismantled.


Elizabeth   July 22nd, 2009 12:37 am ET

Australia has universal health coverage paid in part by a levy on all taxpayers. People go to the doctor of their choice and the system exists alongside a private health system which is optional. Though not perfect, it works. Why do the Republicans lie to the American people about systems like ours. I am appalled at the misinformation that they disseminate.


Bruce Little   July 22nd, 2009 12:37 am ET

Larry,

Do the American public not have bigger problems(Recession,Afghanistan,Iraq) than to argue about wether YOUR President who IS an American citizen able to govern the United States Of America. Deal with the real issues


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

Jacquelyn,First off,You need to take some English classes.Joe didn't shed tears because all his kids were to him was a way out of poverty 7 a way to get rich.He is the worst kind of scum.If you listen to him talk,you will see that his true intentions are revealed.


M.Smith   July 22nd, 2009 12:38 am ET

The Canadian health care system works well here in Canada. Liz does not have her facts straight. I can go to a walk in clinic, emergency room or call my doctor at any time and see them and not pay for it. We have a choice of Doctors,get 2nd and third opinions and still not have to worry how to pay for it. Our health care system as well as others that are similar around the world, seem to work quite well. They have been around for many years and have proven to be very successful.

Please inform Ms. Cheney, we do get to choose our health care providers. Perhaps she should educate herself better before she makes statements that are inaccurate.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 22nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

@Joe... because in all honesty, you people would question everythign on it down to the fibers and the exact who of ink used... you look for ways and hoep for ways, Desperately to convince yourselves of the uncomfortable truth that you have no reason to dislike obama other than that he is not your candidate.

Your fears, concerns, and desires are irrational and illegitimate.

You people are paranoid and need to get over yourselves. You were wrong and your lovemate Bush was equally as wrong and THAT is what really hurts. You just can't live with yoursaelves so you find ways to drag others down, and IF ... IF... Obamas helathcare plan fails it will e a successful plan that failed SOLELY because you willed it to, and the republicans, you all incvluded will never get anything passed and done because you're oblivious.


JACK   July 22nd, 2009 12:40 am ET

Hey Canadians, Liz Chaney is fooling no one. If she wants to bring down universal health care and blab her mouth she should also add that at least 50% of medical care (HMO) cannot go out of their network unless there is prior approval that takes an act of Congress to get. Oh yea, they also have to see the doc that is their primary care physician and cannot go doctor searching unless they have insurance like Dick and Liz Chaney that we tax payers pay for. The rich always gripes the most


Kimberley   July 22nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Liz Cheney should be held accountable for the misinformation she shared about the Canadian health care system. She definitely showed she was a chip off the old block tonight. Rhetoric filled rants, with no substance, lack of information and repetitive talking points that amount to nothing short of fear mongering.

Politics of fear will do nothing to help solve the US health care crisis and I resent misinformation being spread about my country's healthcare services to suit the political agenda of the Republican party. Even my son can spot the lies when the propaganda filled commercials decrying "socialized healthcare" come on the television.

Wake up America – don't be swayed by the lies - you deserve better and everyone is entitled to healthcare, regardless of their income. Funny how they can fight for the right to life but not the right to a healthy, productive life.

Canadians live on average 3 years longer than Americans, that speaks for itself. Our care is not substandard. For some elective procedures there are wait lists, but never for emergency care or life and death situations. Of course there are less wait lists in the US – there are less people who can even afford to be on the list to begin with!

I have experienced health care in the US and Canada and would choose Canada hands down, over the US system any day. I have never been faced with decision here on whether to feed my family for a week or visit the doctor like I had to in the US.

British Columbia, Canada


jo   July 22nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

Listening to Liz make frankly weird assertions about about how Canadians pick their Dr makes me realize how sick and ill informed this American health care battle is. Either she is distorting the truth or she is very ignorant. Perhaps somebody, say Larry, should come up to Canada and ask the first 100 people they come across what they think of 'socialized medicine' and the case would be closed for good. Unfortunately this won't happen as there is too much money to be made in keeping your system as it is. There is a reason why even very wealthy Canadians living abroad go to great lengths to periodically spend a a couple of weeks at home.


HOWARD   July 22nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

LIZ CHENEY IS A SITTING FILABUSTER!!!! ALL VOLUME–NO CONTENT!!!

BLAH-BLAH-BLAH

WHY EVEN BOTHER HAVING HER ON???

JAMES CARVELL SHOULD HAVE JUST WITHDRAWN BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GET COMBAT PAY!!!!


Laura Okrainec   July 22nd, 2009 12:41 am ET

hi Larry, in 1999, here in canada my son was diagnosed with AUTISM. immediately, he was receiving speech therapy, i was receiving respite relief. funds for diapers, etc. within months he was receiving 20 hours a week of very expensive behaviour therapy. we have always chosen our own doctors, we have had different doctors, my husband, kids and i ? all i can tell you is thank god I AM CANADIAN


Gordon Bell   July 22nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

Liz Cheney could not be more wrong about the VA. My God, if it were not for the VA, I probably would never go to a doctor. I have a choice and I opt for and really love my doctors and all the personnel at the VA. They care more than most private practices and they don't have dollar signs in their eyes and can practice medicine at a more professional level. Of course, there are good and not so good on both sides; however, in general the VA is the best health care.

Of corse, I can't speak for all personnel nor every disease. I was hospitalized in Palo Alto CA with heart disease and walked out cured because they worked with me not against me. I have never met a better or nicer group of physicians ever!


Robin Webber   July 22nd, 2009 12:42 am ET

Loved Liz Cheney! Hope you have her on again soon! Great match up against James Carville! I enjoyed that!


Sara   July 22nd, 2009 12:43 am ET

A quiz for all"

What will happen to a person who worths millions alive and billions dead?????
My answer: He probably ends up dead!!

What do you think???


Bob   July 22nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Larry,
I love your show. Tonight, Liz Cheney and James Carvel discussed healthcare reform. I am so tired of the Republican Party speaking for me. The Party of NO chooses not to look at us who are suffering on many fronts in this country. Liz Cheney, the party of NO...Stop speaking for me. We need a comprehensive healthcare plan and I pray that the Democratic Majority get the job done. The party of NO needs to stop hating!!!
Bob...Aurora Colorado


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:44 am ET

Thank you for all your great shows....I'm a huge fan and I just want you to know that I appreciate you having a blog for people like me to release our opinions on your great program.Thanks Larry, Tina


Gerald   July 22nd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Liz Cheney is a snide hateful woman with a patronizing know-it-all smirk continuously on her face. I think she is worse than her mother or father who are quite obnoxious in their own right. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and she is living proof. She is rude and spiteful as seen when she kept interrupting Carville to make her inane small minded points. If CNN insists on airing her, I will find another channel to watch. I cannot stand that woman.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 22nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

I meant Hue of ink not who... pardon me..
and to the peopel writing in from Canada sayign we've forgotten what Obama inhereted... oh no we haven't... some of us are jsut in denial.


Adelaide Retzlaff   July 22nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

I'm a 73 year old Canadian woman. I've been hearing Republicans give wrong information about our system. I have free choice about the drs I chose, I have never had to contact the government on anything, I can change doctors any time I like. I think Liz Cheney should have done more research about another country's health care system before presenting obvious untruths. We may have some waits, but not when it's an emergency.


Kelly   July 22nd, 2009 12:46 am ET

Many children grow up misunderstanding the parents' disciplines.
They resent & just lie to themselves cause of a child's imagination.
;If it was not for Jo Jackson & his pursuing his children, they would not
have been famous & rich among such famous Musicians.
Michael kept Smiling every time he talked about his father's abuses.
He either was told to do it for fame or he just exaggerated ..


Janet Doyle   July 22nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

Regarding the comments of Liz Cheney this evening, July 21st:

Canadians CAN choose their doctors and their specialists - this is a piece of serious misinformation on Liz Cheney's part.

Plus, the ad from an organization sponsoring your program implying that we in Canada have long waiting lists - the person claiming she could go to the USA and receive immediate top-notch care would only be able to do that if she were wealthy. The non-wealthy American or Canadian would have a problem paying for this care. As for the waiting lists for care, that is a bit of a problem in some areas of Canada but really critical cases usually get treated promptly and families are not put into debt because the costs are covered by the various provincial health care plans, which are tax-supported public health care plans. Private insurance is often subscribed to by Canadians to pay for prescription drugs for use at home and for higher levels of private room and private nursing care... Those who have no insurance at all wouild receive some form of supplement to pay for the prescribed medications.

Janet Doyle, Canadian


Momma C   July 22nd, 2009 12:47 am ET

In response to those who live in Canada and other places where socialized medicine works. Your borders obviousily dont bud up against Mexico, therefore you do not have the millions of illegals ever present draining your FREE medical services like we do. (Medicare Medicaid, Chips or whatever is offered for free or near free) Nationalize medical care and watch them keep crossing our borders which WILL create waiting lines for OUR medical care.


LUCY   July 22nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

I'm from Sydney Australia and never miss your program Larry. I'm so impressed with your courteous style and professional handling of every guest and every topic yet still managing to draw out relevant facts. I also thank you for presenting the Michael Jackson expose from many different angles. Your Joe Jackson interview was one of the most difficult that I've ever seen you conduct. What I got out of it is that Joe Jackson is simply myopic on the treatment of his children... he honestly doesn't believe that what he did was cruel, he regarded it to be discipline like many from his vintage. Although abhorrent, his vision was to get out of poverty – whatever it took. No excuse for his actions but in order to learn we have to try to see it from every angle, even Joe's and understand what not to do. Michael Jackson was sensitive genius with a heart that burst out from his chest and in death he is now the gift that keeps on giving.... soooooo very sad. My prayer is that he has found peace in his Neverland and that his children will find a happier home than what he endured. I love you Larry – keep doing what you do – you're my inspiration.


Annette Code   July 22nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

I have been watching Carville and Miss Chatty Cathy talk about health care and can't believe all the negative if I might say very scary ad's about Canadian Health Care.

We had no health care in Canada until the 1960's when we adopted a British type care plan. We have always been able to chose our own doctors, which refer you to specialist, who if you don't get along with can ask for another referral. We don't have HMO's.

I had breast cancer a few years ago, and received an initial meeting within 3 weeks of mammogram, and surgery in less than 2 months, I was fortunate because I get a mammogram yearly and it was spotted between one year and another. I know women who never have had a mammogram. Mammogram's are free to women here after 40 or on drs. referral to your local hospital before that.

The kinds of surgeries people are talking about usually are not of a true emergency, such as knees, etc. Believe me you are assessed (Triaged) in Emergency (see Fox news today) and put to the head of the line if it is something truly worthwhile, a sliver or sprained ankle, drug withdrawal, a broken leg etc. are not life threatening although most patients seem to think so. A friend's father was discovered with a heart problem and he went to the head of the surgery line and had surgery in 3 days of being diagnosed.

We all moan about the system but believe me, it would take a lot before I would want to be in America.

Yes we do have incidents, mistakes etc. but so does American private medicine. Who appointed medical personnel 'god', they aren't nor should we expect them to be able to fix something we have ignored for hours or years in 5 minutes.

Annette Code


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 22nd, 2009 12:48 am ET

Your arguement is a red herring Momma C


anita rocha   July 22nd, 2009 12:49 am ET

larry you need a mute button liz cheney is so annoying mute her let him speak how many times do you have to tell her get a mute button love your show


Ole   July 22nd, 2009 12:50 am ET

Larry, I just tuned in to your show a little late but in the 20 minutes my wife and I were watching we yelled at the TV twice when Ms. Cheney outright lied to the American public. I am a Canadian living on the west coast for the past couple of years and have found the medical system here very strange. In my home town of Vancouver BC I could chose any doctor I wished, get a second or third opinion if I felt it was wise to do so, and the few times I ended up in emergency in my 44 years I didn't have to figure out if my plan would cover my visit to this or that hospital, I just went for treatment. Also, when I was prescirbed medicine my doctor usually gave me alternatives to chose from and cost was 1/3 it is for the exact same drug down here. As some other Canadian posters have said, we Canadians accept that our taxes pay for this system but there is never, ever, any debate about changing it, it's a fixture our our society that every single person gets exactly the same care. And, Canadian doctors are among the best trained in the world across all the disciplines so if anyone says they're second rate, they're simply wrong. The bottom line is if all Americans want equal medical care you have to pay for it, but in the long run it evens out.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 12:51 am ET

Bravo!!!! James from Idaho!!!! Joe needs to come to terms with himself....repeat it to yourself Joe...."Obama won the election in November!" It's ok, Joe?...just try and say it!......Cuz you look like the fool that you are....and it's already July, dude? WAKE UP!!!!


Phyllis   July 22nd, 2009 12:53 am ET

Larry, enough already with the Jacksons. Sorry he passed away, but so did Farah Fawcett, and many other amazine and well liked famous celebrities. Where do they rate?

This accused child molester takes up all the headlines. It's ludicrous.

I'm close to doing something I never thought I would do. Stop watching your show, if all I'm going to see every night is something to do with the Jackson family.


DonaldLAllen   July 22nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

yes larry wille I am what you see and the corp is trying to control it all including me the US and the corp is warking to gater you no that and I,V got to fit four what is right you both no that that is the think that is going on right now in the with house there trying to figer out how to control it all and the thing is they want the right of the people and the people make it happing and than we bay it to so there for we haft to kiss there ass if we even tunr there way it a joke right wille we must do sumting about it now or it well be by goon see you wille nalcion larry king you see what I mean and you never see booth side you just see what they goot to tell you and it is fots it a lie you no it I no it see you


Gerald   July 22nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Why does our president need to show a birth certificate. If the idiots who think he is undocumented or illegal want to know, let them get the document from Honolulu. All the republicans who won't call on their supporters to stop this despicable harassment of our president, like Liz Cheney, should be held accountable for what they are doing. They are obstructionists and racists.


Cece's mom   July 22nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Larry -
Please note all the emails from international viewers defending their health care plans. Perhaps you should invite some of them on to discuss this, as they seem to know more about it than Liz Cheney ever will.

She is unspeakably arrogant and rude and WRONG! She uses the typical republican strategy of droning on and on about nothing and talking over other speakers – smiling that demonic smile all the time.

Please have your producers choose more informed thoughtful guests, it's not worth staying up to watch the show anymore when it's just sensationalized (MJ) or has uninformed guests like Cheney.
Change is good...


Cris in Canada   July 22nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Larry, did I just hear Ms Cheney say that we don't get to choose our doctor's here in Canada? There is absolutely no shred of truth to this, if in fact that's what she said. I chose my family physician and if she refers me to a specialist that I don't like, I can get a referral to another.

The propaganda emanating from some Americans over this healthcare debate that the country is having, is simply hogwash. We don't have a perfect system in Canada, by far. And sometimes the waits are longer than one would like and remote areas don't have the services they need. Not perfect, I agree. BUT, we chose our own doctors and no one in Canada has ever lost their home or gone bankrupt or had to choose between groceries and healthcare for their families.

I have several family members that have battled and/or beaten cancer and other serious health problems. While I'm sure there are nightmare stories, none of those that I know had any exceptional wait times or treatment denials. When my father had a heart attack, he was hospitalized and cared for for 10 days. How much were we billed? ZERO My friend's father in PA was hospitalized for 7 days with a heart attack. His bill? Over $75,000.

So, as a single parent of an adult child with special needs and a limited income, I am much happier with the system here as flawed as it may be, than that in the US.

I just wish the garbage that some are spewing would stop.


Marie L.   July 22nd, 2009 12:54 am ET

Joe Jackson is lying ! he knows he beat his kid's ! I really think he needs help !! And he knows where his son body is at !!!


Doug (Austin)   July 22nd, 2009 12:55 am ET

Let's all get real and face reality. Michael Jackson's father was estranged from Michael; he is a loser. Michael himself was a full blown drug addict; No surprise, drug addicts overdose and die. Quit making excuses, face reality, including the sick family Michael grew up with. Let's move on to more important stories; like man landing on the moon 40 years ago, classy people like Walter Cronkite and Farrah Fawcett; leave the garbage in the gutter where it belongs. This includes the entire Jackson family.


Sharon   July 22nd, 2009 12:57 am ET

It's time for a change, the health care system is not working for everybody it need to be fixed so that everyone can afford it. if you are poor you may be able to get medicaid If you are in the middle income bracket you have to pay a large premium you may be blessed to have a company that pay great benefits and thats great but we must remember the less fortunate. I am reaching retirement when I retire there wil be one check a month half of that check wil go toward paying for my premium I have a husband so I may be able to survive after this but what about the single people that are forced out of work, and/or cannot work anymore so quit whinning about President OBAMA trying to fix this system so everyone will be covered. You have my blessing President OBAMA


Ferrell Beleshko   July 22nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Response to Momma C Actually we have many Illegals using our health care system. They are people from the United States!, and other countries. The capacity of that foreign use comes in the term of Tourists, Illegals and the desperate because they cannot get the care they need at home.. no money for it!

Now to put it in perspective, our health care is not being drained by foreigners, none-the-less people from outside Canada do come here and use our medical system.


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 12:58 am ET

Michele in Canada,Don't call Larry "STUPID."We in America love him.As for Joe Jackson,he is fast becoming the most hated man in America.He may know where the body is,but he's probably trying to figure out how to make money off of it right now!!Joe was a verbal & physical abuser & he lied to Larry stating that he raised his kids just like Larry did.He avoided answering the question.Both LaToya & Michael have stated publically that their father did verbally & physically abuse them.Why would they have done this when neither had anything to gain from making it public,but when asked about it Joe gives a BS answer.


Terry in Vancouver   July 22nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

Hi Larry,
You folks in the US should be so lucky as to get a medical system as good as we have in Canada. I am sick and tired of those who reflect back on the Canadian system as being inferior!! Get your facts straight if you want to comment. Liz Cheney is a joke! Our Canadian system is by no means perfect but then neither is any other medical system in the world–especially yours. When (if you are very fortunate) Obama manages to pull it all together, you too will have an imperfect system but it will be a whole lot better that what you have now. Just hope it is nearly as good as we have in Canada.

Oh, by the way-I chose my own doctor. And she chooses the medication and treatment that is appropriate for my diagnosis.

I am a conservative by nature but I find your Republican party to be outrageously ill informed and self righteous. Anyone who would vote for an individual based on religious beliefs rather than how they would govern is a few bricks short of a full load.

Good luck with your health care reform! Sounds like you will need it.


Kiran   July 22nd, 2009 1:00 am ET

If Sarah Palin becomes president, we'll end up in World War 3!


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

Joe loved Michael's money........Joe didn't know HOW to love Michael like a father.....otherwise his life would have been much different than it was! Let the beautiful ICON that Michael Jackson was...rest in peace!


MLC   July 22nd, 2009 1:01 am ET

Momma C -
Statistically, the numbers of illegals have decreased since the economy tanked. Free health care or not, they aren't coming here in the same numbers because there is no work for them. The legal immigration rate has also decreased – so your argument is moot.

Too bad they can't filter for bigotry like yours, it's really inappropriate and uninformed.

AND, fyi, there are already waiting lines for our health care in economically disadvantaged places all over our country. When you don't have health insurance, even when you are working 60+ hours a week, you have to go to the ER for your health care and there are people of all races, classes and citizenry that sit for hours to be seen. Wake up people, this plan will save money over the long run because it focuses on preventative care, not reactive care. If you're so sick you have to go to the ER, you're too sick already.


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Elizabeth   July 22nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Good on you, Canadians. As an Australian, I am fed up with the lies about your health system. It's time that the US caught up with the rest of the Western World and provided health care for everyone.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 1:04 am ET

Larry?
Who is in these so-called polls? I never get a chance to give my opinion on how President Obama is doing? I think he is JUST what this country needed..and I am behind him all the way!!! Go Obama, Go! I wanna know where I can be in these CNN polls?


Kelly Blue Forest   July 22nd, 2009 1:05 am ET

I can't believe that CNN would allow the out and out lies regarding Health Care in Canada. I have always seen the doctor of my choice, been given a choice of specialists when necessary, had immediate care at Emergency, quickly scheduled surgery and my choice of pharmacutical medicines when needed. I have travelled to England and had NHS doctors visit my hotel room when I fell ill. My relatives there praise the availability of quality care and services. Where are you getting your facts about Health Care in both Canada and England?


lola kalies   July 22nd, 2009 1:06 am ET

I find it curious that as MJs doctors are being investigated, no mention has been made about the plastic surgeon(s), who in the past 10 years have mutilated this beautiful man's face. It is obvious MJ had a disorder regarding his appearance and needed mental help, instead of a scalpel to his face over and over again. The greed is astounding and my heart breaks for him.


James In Kamiah, Idaho   July 22nd, 2009 1:07 am ET

Phonics anyone?


Sharon   July 22nd, 2009 1:07 am ET

What difference does it make that Joe Jackson knows where Michael Body is? Michael was reported dead, family had a funeral, borrowed a tomb but not burried. did any one see his body after being in the casket? Just image what the next breaking news will be.


lyall   July 22nd, 2009 1:11 am ET

Hi Larry, im from canada watch your show all the time, little ticked tonight when cheeny and carville were on, you peaple are missinformed about our health care. Its great, sure you mite have to wait to get a hang nail looked at, but if its urgent your in. And as for as not being able to pick your dr. learn more before opening your mouth, ive picked my own dr, my youngest has a lung problem and ive got him the best pediatrition in our city with no issues, who inturn got him the specialists and the best surgeon also, is our health care perfect ?no. but its alot better than yours, and i travel alot in your country. So all im saying is get your facts strait. Rich or poor you get in.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 1:13 am ET

Do people understand in this world..that it TAKES money to MAKE money? How can you expect to get this economy started again if you don't spend money? And why does every Tom, Dick and Harry have to TRY to trace every cent the President spends...Let the man do his job already? You Republicans didn't say too much when Bush stood back the last eight years and let this country run itself into the ground? Are you serious, right now? It's gonna take more than 6 months into this Presidency to let him look at everything that's been screwed up for the last eight years......It's not happening OVERNIGHT FOLKS!!!!! RELAX!!!!


Malvena White   July 22nd, 2009 1:14 am ET

Larry, I usually love your show and have seen you take control of your guests before. What happened tonight? Liz Chaney dominated the entire first portion–and you let her. I always enjoy a good debate and like to hear James Carville (even with his political bias). But tonight was devoted to Liz defending the Republican party and trying to downgrade the Democratic party. Fine, if she's running for office, she can tell any stories she wants. But based on the comments from your Canadian viewers, she obviously doesn't have her facts straight about health care in Canada. Wonder how many other things she's talking about that she knows nothing ? PLEASE, if you (heaven forbid) have her on again, put a stop to her speeches and rudeness!


responding2003   July 22nd, 2009 1:15 am ET

Your reaction show against MJJ's father sickened me because if Joe Jackson had been in MJJ life, he probably would have been alive. I think you need to look back at slavery and the harsh beatings that our ancestors suffered by the hands of slave owners. This type of behavior was transferred from one generation to another generation. Many black children were beaten as a form of corrective behavior because that is what african americans were taught by slave master. So, for generations this form of corrective behavior persisted until Dr. (Sparks) created the no spanking movement. Joe may not see his corrective disciplinary methods as a form of abuse. The slave owners did not see it as abuse. Have a social historian to discuss what Joe Jackson ancestors may have done and caused the transfer of behavior towards his children.


sheila   July 22nd, 2009 1:16 am ET

Who believes that our health insurance is okay? Anyone with any integrity and compassion for the average american family knows that we need to change this system and make it where everyone can receive appropriate health care. The government needs to regulate the insurance companies. Be honest. What these republicans are accusing Obama of doing right now with the health care is just in denial of what is already going on. Believe me, any improvement he makes will be just that –improvement. Our health insurance companies determine what doctor you see and what treatment you get. They deny coverage, they deny procedures, they tell you who can do the procedure.
This crap about Canada, I beg to differ since I have spent time in Canada. I have conversed with many Canadians who love their system.
I am sick of politicians. I am really sick of republicans and I have to agree with James about Sarah Palin, that if she is at the top of desirable candidates for the presidency, then the rest of the country doesn't have to worry. If that blonde, Chris, believes that Palin can communicate, she is as inept as Palin. Sarah speaks popular phrases, catch phrases, but incoherently, as she doesn't finish her sentences or her thoughts. She is not capable of doing what Obama or Clinton have been able to do. She can't represent us well. She was an embarassment as a vice presidential candidate.
This Chris lady was pretty obnoxious in her assessment of what the president is trying to do and like any opposing politician, trying to make him look bad, so their party can look better. They forget , no matter how long they try to make six months look or feel, it is only six months, and we are where we are because we had Bush for 8 years. Period!!! Republicans are starting to look very ignorant and greedy. They look and act like liars, hypocrites, and will say anything, to ignite the public with wild accusations against Obama. Watch Fox news-the most embarassing news broadcast we have on tv.
I am not a democrat, just an independent, which I believe that much of America is coming to, and will vote for who they believe has the most class, the most integrity and the most wisdom for a politician.
He is not the answer to every problem we have and in the end he is just a politician however, right now he is the best we have. There are a couple of republican congressmen I like. Of course, I wish there were a better way than what we have right now. I wish our votes really counted, then we could decide what our policies really are by popular vote as it is supposed to be, not by our "representatives" who are supposed to represent us but are too busy trading votes, getting bought, and busy having sex on our money and hard labor.
I am ready for revolution, passive of course, to get rid of the damn politicians that want to be nothing more than celebrities, at the taxpayer's expense. God, if only I had realized what a great lifestyle being in government was. It has great healthcare, great retirement, great lifestyle, travel, like a smaller prince or princess, and celebrity status. I would get the limo rides and jet around. But I chose teaching, because I was too revulsed by politicians and how government worked. I own part of this problem by not demanding more of my government, so that is what I am working on now. Let's demand better government. Let the populus vote and that will be the word on it. We don't need congressmen the way we have had them. Let's utilize them differently and let them really work for us instead of themselves.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 1:16 am ET

Bravo on the WW3 Kiran!


Danelle   July 22nd, 2009 1:16 am ET

I think that the Jackson family needs to keep Joe from going on tv and keep him from saying anything since all it's doing is causing problems and possibly hutring Michaels mom from getting custody of the kids. All Joe is doing is trying to find ways to make money off of his son's death and to promote his new record label. Joe doesn't care about what happened to his son just money. I'm glad Michael kept him out of the will since he doesn't deserve one dime after they way he treated Michael while he was growing up. I pray for Michaels kids everyday and I hope that Janet will somehow get custody of the kids even though Katherine would do a good job of taking care of them. The only problem with Katherine getting custody of them is that Joe and the rest of the family who is trying to make money off of Michaels death will try to use the kids also to make money since they are pretty well all broke now except for Janet. Janet would be a excellent guardian of the kids and would never use them to make money like the rest of the family. Also the family needs to lay Michael to rest and quit trying to burry him in neverland to make another graceland. He would have never wanted it since he no longer really considered it his home after he was violated there which should have never happened. It only happened because of greedy people wanting money from him and wrongfully accusing of him of bogus allegations.


Tina Tate   July 22nd, 2009 1:18 am ET

Hurray!!!!! Sheila!!! Tell em like it is!


Valgin   July 22nd, 2009 1:19 am ET

What a rude woman Liz Cheney is. I can't believe you (Larry) didn't rein her in from constantly interrupting James Carville. People that constantly talk and not listen are covering something up. As much as I can't stand listening to that woman I'd like you to have her back on your show – just her, and question her about the comments from the Canadians on this board that have stated she is misinformed about their health care system. I would also like you to ask her about her father – what does she think his legacy will be? Also, ask what she thinks about his "criminal" activity while in the white house? Whether she feels he was justified in giving the CIA an assignment but they were to keep that information secret from Congress? I want to see that woman on the hot seat. Can you ask the hard questions, Larry?


Nicole S. -- North Carolina   July 22nd, 2009 1:21 am ET

I am just disgusted by this entire scenario. Reputable journalism is no longer reputable. Why would Mr. Jackson tell anyone where Michael's remains are? Why does it matter? It's just a shell - he isn't there. I hope he made his peace with his maker, and is spending eternity in the right place. All the media outlets are recycling the same junk over and over, while adding more junk to it. The so-called panels are a bunch of talking heads spewing viciousness about the Jackson family. Enough is enough. It isn't right.

What Mrs. Jackson ultimately does with her inheritance is her personal business. How Michael's children are raised is that family's private business. I see why Michael shielded him the way he did. Those tabloid reporters who rummaged through the garbage at Michael's house following his death should be ashamed of themselves. Oops– I forgot–everything's fair game. Guess that's the American way. How pathetic.


Don Perk   July 22nd, 2009 1:23 am ET

Although Joe Jackson denies allegations of physical abuse, he should look into his heart and ask himself if he ever told Michael that he loved him, or that he was proud of him, or that he was beautiful- things that Michael so desperately needed to hear, especially from his father.
Abuse is not only what is done to a child, but also what is not done. Neglect is a form of abuse.


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 1:23 am ET

Larry Bufor from L.A.,I loved yor comment about the Republican waters.I hope in 2012 we have a Democratic tsunami & wipe out the rest of them.Wouldn't that be nice?


kendo36   July 22nd, 2009 1:24 am ET

Birth Certificate from Kenya?!?!?!? wow people will believe anything these days. Not only are they displaying their "true" ignorance but they are forgetting what this country stands for.

Everyone is so caught up on I/me/mine, that they are forgetting the "One Nation under God." Lady on you tube, if you want to get technical this is not your country. Yes, at one point your great granddad fought along side others, as well as his father, etc. But at one point in history his ancestors migrated to the great United states of America, in which they found the "Natives" of the land. (who's country?????)

FYI- I am not Native American

The wonderful blessings that we as Americans have is the land of opportunity, and if you put in your time (blood, sweat, tears) you are able to enjoy freedom and unlimited resources. All the qualities that this country is built on, which I am positive that Pres. Obama, has in his best interest.

So now, in a time of need, we as Americans need to sit aside our selfish tendencies/motives and support "all" who support us. Unity is the game people. “For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”-Matthew 18:20


Kim   July 22nd, 2009 1:25 am ET

Larry,
This evening, Liz Cheney mentioned that small businesses would go out of business if federal income taxes are increased. I would appreciate it if you could ask her for an example of one small business that has gone bankrupt due to the federal income tax. Businesses that are making money usually do not go under and those that are losing money generally do not owe federal income taxes. Thanks!


Dreama   July 22nd, 2009 1:27 am ET

Quote From: RickfromDetroit July 21st, 2009 9:12 pm ET

"The rich can’t afford more taxes. An individual making $2 million a year and paying 50% taxes has $1 million left after taxes. Divide the $1million by 365 days and these poor people only have $2739.00 a day to live on. I feel sorry for them!" End Quote.

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I HOPE this was a joke. I WISH I had that much to live on every day. I'm lucky if I get half that every MONTH!!


Valgin   July 22nd, 2009 1:32 am ET

Doug (Austin),

How exactly does a man landing on the moon help us in 2009. What benefits will we receive from that? Is there money on the moon, resources we can use on earth, little green people to give us knowledge? IMO, its a waste of money, money better spent dealing with the problems of today.

You can dislike the Jackson family all you like, but they are not all messed up. In the case of Michaels death, there's a mystery about how he died and why. I'm not at all sure he was a full blown addict, but I'm anxiously awaiting toxicology tests that will determine that. There was a great deal of coverage on Walter Cronkite and Farrah Fawcett, what else should the news networks say about them?


Beatrice Adams   July 22nd, 2009 1:33 am ET

Hello Larry, I was looking at the Geraldo Rivera Show and he showed a n interview with Michael Jackson which Geraldo sai it was done after the Oprah interview. Why not show the interview? In that interview Michael stated that his father did not beat him and that he loved his father. I must tell you I am sure it was hard to raise those kids and keep them from being in trouble you are talking about the sixties. Where were all these people when Joe was working twqo jobs? My husband and I have raised four sons three are trying to get in the music business never been in trouble and each one of them play four to five different instruments and sing. So I know Joe had a hard time.
(Course we did not whip our children. They are grown now but still are trying to get into the music business. I think that Joe has a hard time trying to express himself. I also don't think Katherine would let Michael's kids be expolited by Joe or anyone else.

Have a great day


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 1:36 am ET

Tim,You haven't been paying attention.The President & congress already have excellent healthcare & have had it for years.It's the rest of us that are either being screwed over by private insurance holding it's hand out for more money or we have no insurance because we can't afford it.I'm all for a Govt.option that's affordable & would give the private insurance cos.some competition,not put them out of business as the Republicans would have you believe.


Linda SP   July 22nd, 2009 1:37 am ET

Liz Cheney is synonymous with the word rude. How ignorant can one person be. As is the interruptions weren't enuf, we had to listen to lies. Please someone tell her to shut up.


Bob Arthur   July 22nd, 2009 1:37 am ET

James Carville had it right when he said the VA is doing a good job. I am a vet and receive all my health care at the local VA center in Dallas. The personnel are courteous, and the medical staff are all very professional and attentive. Appointments are pretty much on time, and all in all I would rate the system excellent. Thank God for the VA. I don't know what I would do without that benefit. I was flabbergasted to hear Lynn Chaney's fearmongering effort to denigrate the VA, and imply that we would all be worse off if the government was in charge of our health care and (horrors) we didn't have the warm, caring terminator style of health care available through your local insurance company. We all have stories about procedures that are deemed unnecessary and, bottom line, the insurance company denies the claim. There is a full scale attack by the insurance companies designed to defeat this health care bill and it is solely to preserve their status and maintain the strangle hold they now have on most fellow Americans. Don't let this happen. Please get out and support this bill. Stand on a corner with a sign, call your Congressman, take affirmative action.


James   July 22nd, 2009 1:37 am ET

Joe Jackson Isn't Telling The Truth About Where Michel Jackson's Body Is, Nor Is He Telling The Truth About Beating Michael When He Was Younger. Michel Himself Told All Of Us How He Was Treated. All Joe Wants Is More Money. And To Me He Could Really Care Less About His Son Michael. If He Was, He Would Be More Upset Than He Is.


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 1:43 am ET

Jackie,i don't think there will be any Republican takers on your invite to come up with a viable alternative healthcare plan because they would have to use a word that doesn't seem to be in their vocabulary since Jan.20th,2009.That word would be"YES."


Jen Chan   July 22nd, 2009 1:43 am ET

Larry, I sat and listened to your guest, Liz (Republican) shoot bull regarding the Canadian Health Care until I could not take it any longer. I need you to educate her and other Americans on the facts: 1) We in Canada have full choice/option on chosing our doctors. 2) Many of us here in Canada would not be caught dead living in the U.S. because of the lack of a Health Care system. 3) I would love to know how much the woman in the Ad, trashing the Canadian Health Care program, was paid – if I had money I would have her claim investigated!


CJ   July 22nd, 2009 1:48 am ET

i hope cnn fires his old ass


Dina , Minnesota   July 22nd, 2009 1:48 am ET

Wow, how rude that Liz Cheney was to James Carville. Can't believe how out of hand the show was. I agree with the person that said," the producers turned the mic off when James tried to talk when they went to commercial."Why didn't they do that to Liz.? James is a very intelligent man, and I enjoy listening to him. I wish he would have been treated better and we could have heard him talk on the issues. Please do not have her or Ann Coulter on if they don't let the other person talk.


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 1:56 am ET

Julia,Canada,Some of us Americans are awake & thinking for ourselves.We know our healthcare system is broken & we applaud President Obama for having the forsight to know that & try to change it.We also know that republicans will do anything thay can to stop any Govt.healthcare option because they are the party of "BIG BUSINESS"who grease their pockets & that's why they are against it.Unfortunately,their propaganda is believed by so many Americans who apparently can't think for themselves.


Ann,Virginia   July 22nd, 2009 2:05 am ET

Marie,Yes republicans are like Liz Cheney & sarah Palin & Rush Limbaugh.We in America call them the party of"NO"because thats all they seem to say when it comes to passing any helpful legislation.There are also some in the party of extreme right wingers who preach hate & racisim.As far as most Americans go,I think they would say to the republicans.Don't go away mad,just go away.


ELIZABETH   July 22nd, 2009 2:52 am ET

Hi Larry!
Until the tragic loss of the most iconic artist to ever walk this Earth, I have never participated in a blog before. I watch your show and CNN broadcasts everyday. It is obvious that there are lot of questionable incidents that happened before, during and after Michael's death. Has the family ever considered using a psychic medium to help shed some light on this incident? I know several renowned psychics have been used in the past to help assist in high profile cases. At this point, the family needs to have their questions answered so they can finally literally and figuratively lay our beloved Michael to rest. It is hard to try and please everyone, but in my opinion, if his body is safer being laid to rest in a PRIVATE section of the forest lawn cemetery, then that's what needs to be done. I am a very spiritual person and I know that his spirit is with God now even though we clinging to his shell of a body. He is with God now and being loved by the eternal Fafther. Everyone who had anything to do with his tragic demise will pay the consequences sooner or later. HIs legacy supersedes just his dance and singing abilities. He was and is a true humanitarian and we should all now carry on his legacy to continue to HEAL THE WORLD! RIP Michael and we will luv u 4ever!!


Nadine Price   July 22nd, 2009 3:13 am ET

Would someone pleaaaaaaase tell these people, the likes of Liz Cheney, to kindly get their facts straight when they decide to trash the Canadian health system. For crying out loud, get the story and the details straight people. No wonder you're looked at like an airhead.

Uh, news flash "We do get to chose our doctors, and our specialists and our surgeons, and on and on and on......"

Unlike your counterparts, we don't leave our citizens floundering looking for health care providers while their illness slowly kills them........

Give me a break with the misinformation please.............


Billy   July 22nd, 2009 3:16 am ET

Hello! I believe that the public should be able to know the truth about Micheal Jackson' s death. If he faked this death for a great come back He just wasted his time, Micheal changed the way the Would looked at pop music the man was i gift from god, its simple to make music, look good dancing, but it takes an act if god to change the way of music to where people would enjoy it even more.

God Rest is soul! People need to let him lay to rest, his family needs to laid his body to rest and move on. We all lose loves ones every day and even times before we want to see them go, but this is how us as god chilldren move on.


Okanieba   July 22nd, 2009 3:23 am ET

I believe Obama is blowing it with health care. It is extremely hard to obtain decent health care for the poverty class. I make less than 40,000 a year and all I have is local community health. Perscriptions may be cheaper but we have to pay for every seperate lab test. X-rays are only at the hospital and we have to pay full price for that. The new health care will limit even more of our already limited health care programs for the poorer people.


lily kerr   July 22nd, 2009 3:23 am ET

in regards to cheneys comment, about canadians dont get to pick their own doctor, i live in canada, and we most certainly get to pick our own doctor and are encouraged to get second opions if desired with the doctors of our choice


nicole   July 22nd, 2009 3:27 am ET

for the record, I live in Canada and the government did NOT pick my doctor. I am irate with Liz Cheney's poor research on the subject. Our health care system my not be perfect but you don't go bankrupt trying to pay your medical bills. Yes it will cost money, I pay about $700 a year as a single person and families pay as one. I still have the freedom to choose my own private insurance coverage for things that are not covered under government health care. Things like a trip to the dentist, persciptions, eyeglasses, chiropractor....you will never be turned away at a Canadian hospital because you don't have insurance, because as a citizen you are covered. I just wanted to clear that up.


Mark in St. Louis   July 22nd, 2009 3:28 am ET

Since all of you libs want all these new expensive spending bills and a new expensive health care program, then you can pay my share of the increased taxes and price increases that will occur to pay for all of this.

Keep drinking the Obama Kool-aid.


Steven G.   July 22nd, 2009 3:30 am ET

Liz Cheney needs to learn how to take part in an on-line conversation. She steamrollered over Larry and his other guest James Carville.

Larry, rather than let your gets ride roughshod over your show, it'd be nice to give them guidelines. Cheney was a disgrace to herself. Part of your responsibility in handing these guests is making sure they don't make fools of themselves. I think Liz accomplished this in spades. It wasn't just the talking over people, it was the endless stream of GOP talking points, some running contrary to facts, and her dismissal of statistics Carville called up. She even said "We can talk about statistics and poll numbers, but at the end of the day what's really important is..."
Facts aren't important? She's like The Colbert Report, except, scarily, she's not joking! She's serious!
She also claimed Sarah Palin will continue to be an important voice in politics....A voice, yes...important? That's up to debate.


Mark in St. Louis   July 22nd, 2009 3:30 am ET

The Canadians say their systems so great. Why is it that many of their doctors have moved to the U.S.?


Erykah Cowen   July 22nd, 2009 3:32 am ET

This is in response to the ignorant statements made by Liz Cheney who obviously knows nothing of what she speaks. I am a Canadian and you can pick your own doctor. Its amazing how one can actually tell a blatent lie on television and not think someone is going to nail you on it. I have been living in this country for over 20 years and still have no insurance here. When I got diagnosed with a medical problem I had to return to Canada where I chose my own doctor, had an operation and left the hospital. I paid nothing and it wouldn't hurt this country to adopt a program like that for people who can not afford the expensive health care system you have here which helps only the rich.


PJ   July 22nd, 2009 3:33 am ET

Liz Cheney personifies Republicans – rude, mouthy, stubborn and ill informed. Why do we have to be subjected to this woman and her blathering? Her comments about President Obama are typical of the yammering Republican pack – and her comments about Sarah Palin even more so. Spare me. We had enough of one Cheney – we don't need another.


devon B   July 22nd, 2009 3:35 am ET

Liz Cheney is Blind – she clearly knows nothing about Canadian health care


fred frye   July 22nd, 2009 3:36 am ET

I love your show Larry King, but was offended by you having lynn cheney on here. It is so apparent that she is only for the 5% wealthy in this country just like her father.
She kept interupting and would not let james carville even talk or give his opinions. I have had enough of the cheneys.


Robert Torres   July 22nd, 2009 3:36 am ET

I wish that someone would ask the questions correctly.

Where was all the commercials against loaning the rich wealthy banks and insurance companies money?

Where was the lines of congressional outrage and where was the minute by minute polls and sit ins against the Bush administrations handling of the war and all of the problems that got us here.

Well all of that doesn't matter as much as this – just look at where it comes from when the government wants to help the poor and pretty much every man an woman get health care.

This country seems to be ONLY for the rich. All of our tax dollars line their pockets while health care is forced aside by the media and special interest groups. I am willing to bet that most of the folks against health care reform – probably have stock in the drug companies.


Steven G.   July 22nd, 2009 3:37 am ET

Mark In St. Louis....those would be doctors who like the American system...it pays them better and holds them to lower standards. (plus they get the glad hand of the drug industry for selling their product)

The Canadian's aren't saying their system is great, the opponents of health care reform have created the MYTH that Canadians somehow lord their system over ours. They also pay much higher taxes.

Obama's reform is merely to create a safety net of coverage. It isn't a mandatory plan that everyone has to join...it's aimed at those who are uninsured. ONLY those who are uninsured.

Mark – READ


Gillian   July 22nd, 2009 3:39 am ET

I am just watching your show, just want you to know, I am an ex pat from England who now lives in Canada. I just wanted to respond to the female that you have got on the show tonight. I have an excellent doctor that I chose myself and have every faith in the health care system where I live. I recently watched Michael Moore's "Sicko" and could not believe how much the American system is governed by how thick your wallet is. I am so gratefull that I live in a Country where if I need health treatment it is there 24/7 no matter what! Would not even entertain coming to America for a vacation............... just in case something should go wrong, afterall even with medical insurance, who is to say you would still get treatment? Think the lady has got it all wrong, oh wait just a minute, she probably has one of those thick wallets?!!!!!!!


Danielle Belec   July 22nd, 2009 3:40 am ET

Someone should educate Liz Chaney on the Canadian health system before she comments on it publicly. I don't know where she gets that Canadians can't choose their doctors. I've always selected my doctors. Health is a provincial issue in Canada, not a federal one, and quality health care is available to ALL Canadians.


Thomas Condon   July 22nd, 2009 3:41 am ET

The way in which Liz Cheney constantly interrupted James Carville tonight says the most about the Republican party. No respect for any idea that is not there own.
Thank the American people for finally having enough this past election.
Ms. Cheney, go get a country club pass with your dad and leave America alone.


queen_mera_mera   July 22nd, 2009 3:42 am ET

I AM IN SHOCK LARRY!!! THE NEWS CLIP YOU SHOWED ON YOUR SHOW TONIGHT OF AN OLDER WOMAN BASHING OUR PRESIDENT OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!! HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO INSENSITIVE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE. SHE WAS CLAIMING SHE WAS FULL AMERICAN BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN HERE AND THAT HER FATHER AND GRANDFATHER FOUGHT IN WARS FOR UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WELL, I GOT NEWS FOR HER, IF SHE TRACES HER ROOTS BACK SHE IS FROM OVER SEAS!! EUROPEAN!! YES, THAT'S RIGHT. AS FOR ME, I BELIEVE THAT AMERICAN IS A COUNTRY THAT FOCUSES WAY TO MUCH ON RACE!! I AM MORE INDIGENOUS THAN ANY EUROPEAN WILL EVER BE!! ALSO, MY GRANDFATHER FOUGHT IN A WAR FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS WELL. IF YOU WANT OBAMA TO GO BACK WHERE HE'S FROM, THEN PACK YOUR BAGS AND GO HOME TOO!! I BELIEVE IN EQUAL RIGHTS, NOT PICKING OUT WHO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM TOO!!


Gianni Chiazzese   July 22nd, 2009 3:45 am ET

Hi,

I seriously think some of your viewers (and guests for that matter) have a serious misconception on Canadian Health Care. I can tell you a quick short story on my own personal family experience. My uncle had a brain tumor and because of our sound health care system my uncle got his tumor removed and he survived an operation that would have otherwise cost $250,000 in the United States, he did not pay one penny. I can provide many more examples and if your viewers are interested I can provide an in-depth presentation on Canadian Health Care so that your viewers are well informed of the Canadian Health Care system and how such a system can affect ordinary Americans.

Yours truly,

Gianni Chiazzese


Karen   July 22nd, 2009 3:52 am ET

Dear Larry,

In regards to that woman yelling that "she wants her country back!" in regards to Obama's birth certificate. The only people who have the right to scream about wanting "their" country back are the Native Americans. Need I remind that stupid woman that EVERYONE ELSE is here by greed, choice, circumstance or opportunity at the expense of the people to whom this country belongs. Every one else by force, necessity or choice has contributed to America which makes America a blend of adoptees at the expense of "this country's native inhabitants" and I can guarantee the Native Americans did not like or want being displaced in their own country so if she does not like this melting pot, I suggest she find her ancestral homeland and get a ticket to what she can legitimately call "her country".


Karen   July 22nd, 2009 4:03 am ET

July 22nd, 2009 3:52 am ET
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Dear Larry,

In regards to that woman yelling that “she wants her country back!” in regards to Obama’s birth certificate. The only people who have the right to scream about wanting “their” country back are the Native Americans. Need I remind that woman that EVERYONE ELSE is here by greed, choice, circumstance or opportunity at the expense of the people to whom this country belongs. Every one else by force, necessity or choice has contributed to America which makes America a blend of adoptees for better or worse but at the expense of “this country’s native inhabitants” and I can guarantee the Native Americans did not like or want to be displaced in their own country so if she does not like this melting pot of continual change, I suggest she find her ancestral homeland and get a ticket to what she can legitimately call “her country”.


prisci   July 22nd, 2009 4:08 am ET

people need to let michael rest in peace!! im sure if someone in your direct family that you love so much was to pass away so young you would not what the media all up in your life wanting every single little detail. and the only wrong thing joe did is abuse michael and ive allways beleived michael when he said that but can someone tell me why when michael is blamed of messing with little boys no one beleives him and everyone thinks he's crazy but people beleive him when he says he was abused. if youre going to beleive michael you have to beleive him all the way


fina   July 22nd, 2009 4:11 am ET

looking at the jackson family during the memorial i realized how close they are. in many interviews, i saw how civil, respectful they were no matter how pressing the question was. in one picture i saw MJ's brothers embracing paris and prince. they were gentle in breaking the news to their family members. they were there for each other. their family may not be perfect but during trying times they stick together in defense of a brother, a sister a nephew or a niece. even if there were flaws on the way joe dealt with his children, they still grew up well. i am not justifying some harsh measures he opted for his boys, but we can learn from it by avoiding corporal punishment in taming our kids. i love the jacksons.


Toni   July 22nd, 2009 4:33 am ET

First of all, I am not in any way condoning what Joe did to Michael. But I wish you would all go to utube and type in " Michael Jacksons personal home movies". He did this after the " Bishr " documentary that completely demeaned him. The movies are great and gives you a real look into his very NORMAL mannerisms. He narrates as he shows them, and you get to see him in a very different light.. They start out when he was little . He laughs as he tells the stories, and seems really happy. One video is how he had a family day at his ranch. Since they did'nt celebrate holidays, they made up their own special days. This one was " Dads day". He was very happy , and it shows him and Janet showing the new boat they had bought for Joe.
He seemed to have made peace with his dad over the years. Personally, I don't like Joe much, but if Michael did forgive his dad, is it fair for us to degrade him constantly.
The last movie he shows, he says is the one he's most proud of. It is of his children. He also explains why he covers their faces in public.

In these movies, you truely see a son, brother, friend and " daddy ".


Mark   July 22nd, 2009 4:33 am ET

You want health care ? Then get a JOB ! Unfortunate are we now for we will no longer know the value and rewards which hard work and paying a price brings. . Share the wealth ? I'd rather fold, quit then have bums riding coat tails of those who did pay a price. What has America become ? Sad. PS all you illegals go home and return the right way like everyone before you. The one thing not many people understand is the current policies are the beginning of the end. There is no wealth to share but hey it sure got the votes. Now you know why they don't put the money in education. Now you all will see and understand where we are headed. Maybe when unemployment hits 20% you will wake up if your States don't go BK first. See you in the soup lines ! Privledged ? Try saying those who work hard, two jobs, some three to carry all the dead weight ! EZ to blame others and make excuses for your place in life, much harder to look in the mirror and accept your where your at because of choices you made ! I quit, now what ?


Nick Foxall   July 22nd, 2009 5:14 am ET

Well done to Liz Cheney, I've never seen James Carville make such a fool of himself with low-blows as usual. Why is this man still consulted on political issues? The unprofessional smirking and laughing while Liz was talking was nothing less than I'd expect from this bumbling fool.


ROBERT S.D. CHOWN   July 22nd, 2009 5:19 am ET

Greetings from Vancouver Canada;

I beg you!

Please take Canada's Health Care System seriously.

It is outstanding.
I pay about $ 50 a month for full coverage.
Do nto listen to the disgusting comments of American critics of our system.
They have a vested interest in your status quo.

Good luck,

Robert S. D. Chown (Bob)
Vancouver, BC, Canada.


daniela in Bucharest Romania   July 22nd, 2009 5:34 am ET

The socialist health system, US want to implement will be the Disaster of the US medical research and the Death of a Gold standard in medicine.
This,because when you want all to have health facilities you will get "something of nothing" but,paradoxally this will cost US huge money.
This is why our European countries( I am living in Romania) and Canada where the principle of health is the French one: egalite,fraternite-the solidarity,can not advance in medical research-because all the money goes to the people who do not want to work...
The quality of medical care is typical socialist-you give everybody the essential to survive but not to live better-for a better health care, you pay private doctors(as Michael Jackson did)and so the final scope of the health care is a lie...I watched on CNN 2 days ago a demonstration on a chalk-display of a Democrate senator of US with gates,health facilities,etc-he knew Nothing of the deployment of such a system once it starts-creates monsters of bureaucracy.Why he was elected Senator?He is a naïve…


Ivan Schon   July 22nd, 2009 5:46 am ET

Hi, We are Australians. Just wanted to let you know we watch your show every evening from Perth Western Australia and enjoy it very much.


jenny   July 22nd, 2009 5:56 am ET

how where is everyone, are you sleeping?
It is 8 pm Australian time, so write to me, Ia m so bored.


Denis Richard   July 22nd, 2009 6:04 am ET

Hi Mr. King,
I watch your show for many years from Montreal, Canada. I was stun to see Liz Cheneu lie in front of million of your viewers last night.
It is not true that in canada the goverment tell us which doctor we can see! We can choose the doctor we want, we can change anytime the doctor we wished to have to take care of us.
If we have problem now in our system, it is because this canadian goverment is following the advices of the drugs corp., the insurances corp to privitize our great system. The want us to be like like you in the USA and having to do with the private sector.
The goverment is doing all he can to make problem in our public system so we have to go to privates clinics to have care.
Dont let Liz Cheney lie again on your show like this again. Confront her because it is not helping the US citizens to have accessed to public health care.
Best regards,
Denis


please stop talking   July 22nd, 2009 6:11 am ET

Dick Cheney imposes his rules during the W Bush administration, and Liz Cheney try to impose her own rules during the Larry King show. Apparently stupidity runs on the family.


Angelica   July 22nd, 2009 6:13 am ET

MICHAEL JACKSON CHANGED OUR WHOLE LIVES.....


Kate Rowe   July 22nd, 2009 6:26 am ET

Love your show Larry here in Australia.....Just finished watching the Joe Jackson interview....That man to me was a child abuser, he is to blame for Michaels demise. He mentally ruined a great human being...........Kate


Liz Cheney Live   July 22nd, 2009 6:30 am ET

Apparently Larry King retire .The new host is the annoying LiZZZZZZZZ CHENEYYYYYYYYY.


Debbie   July 22nd, 2009 6:30 am ET

I don't know how much Liz Cheney knows about Canada, but I am a Canadian and I certainly can choose my own doctor and what type of medicine I get. Maybe she should do a little better research before she makes statements that Canadians can't choose their doctors.
Thanks


Kate Rowe   July 22nd, 2009 6:34 am ET

I just wish they would all leave the poor man to rest in peace 'Michael'.........They attacked him, persecuted him while alive, at least give the man the respect he deserves........He's with angels now,where he can be loved unconditionally............Kate


Mark   July 22nd, 2009 6:35 am ET

To Jenny Better watch chasers


michaela   July 22nd, 2009 7:15 am ET

a few weeks ago you asked was womens lib dead ?
no but it should be curbed now days a female
can accuse a man of anything sex related and the cops assume he guilty!
cops and goverment assume men are always guilty if an alligarion of any thing sex related is involved. nany women know this and use it to get even with a man they are mad at for any reason!
it shouldn't be men are guilty till proven inoccent
ITS SAID GOD HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMENS SCORN!
talk about it you'll get many viewers


Tamara Cannon   July 22nd, 2009 7:39 am ET

Dear Larry,

Can you dedicate one show to all the charities that Michael supported. He is in the record books for this. It is worth a show. PLEASE!


william   July 22nd, 2009 8:40 am ET

I cannot believe Mr King let Ms Cheney get away w/lies, rudeness, misinformation, & no common courtesy.....Liz cannot hold a candle to her sister, Mary, who is an honorable person who shuns the limelight....Mary has probably been forced in the bkground by members of her family because she's gay, etc,,,but she is the most honest of the rest of them...NO MORE Larry King Live if Ms Cheney is a guest again, & she gets paid for this ??..talk about having a big ego & a strong one & looking down her nose @ the rest of us,,


Linda from New York   July 22nd, 2009 8:48 am ET

Liz Cheney was rude and obnoxious. James Carvell was classy, you need to him back on minus the New host of your show.


Ron Lucas   July 22nd, 2009 9:08 am ET

I am a very long time viewer of Larry King Live and truly enjoy the show.
Last night it was so frustrating watching Ms. Cheney talk about and criticizing Canada's medicare system something that obviously she knows absolutely nothing about. I have lived under Canada's medicare system most of my adult life and it is excellent and I beleive most Americans would give their eye teeth to live under such a system if they were given the facts and not have to listen to people like Ms. Cheney speak about something she knows nothing about.

She stated last night that Canadians can not select their doctors they have to take the doctor that is given to them . That is total nonesense. I have a general practitioner, a general surgeon, a orthepedic surgeon, a uraligist and a heart specialist all of my choice . I have been taken care of by these very capable people whenever I have needed them and it never cost me a penny. Nothing is free I most likely pay more taxes than most Americans but to get this kind of medical treatment it is worth it and I do not have to pay high premiums to insurance companies that are in it for their best interest and not their customers.

As health care is a very hot topic in the united states right now the Larry King Live Show should bring someone on from Canada to inform Americans about Canada's system.
Thank You
Ron Lucas


California Gold   July 22nd, 2009 9:10 am ET

After reading through these comments, seems to me Liz Cheney's false claims and histrionics about National Health Service in Canada and UK fell flat. Thank goodness! Now for Congress to represent what I want and not the wants of American health insurance companies.


Warren   July 22nd, 2009 9:11 am ET

Enough said about Liz Cheney's failure to do even the most basic homework regarding her statements about the Canadian health care system. But one quick story to share: My 25 year old daughter had a medical emergency (a ruptured brain aneurysm) that nearly took her life. She had medical treatment in the span of 24 hours at Toronto Western Hospital that took her from the brink of death to full recovery. She spent the next 10-14 days in the neurological ICU. This would have bankrupted most middle class families, but was fully covered by the Canadian health care system. There is as much mis-information about wait times as there is about 'not being able to 'choose your doctor'. Bottom line: Do your homework.


Nina   July 22nd, 2009 9:14 am ET

Hi, with regard to your program last night, I wonder where Liz Cheney got her information that in Canada we do not get to choose our doctors? Never have I been told who I have to see for either family practice or specialities. I work for an orthopaedic surgeon and I can guarantee our patients choose us and are in no way told they have to choose us bu the government or anyone else. also, how does she explain our friends in Texas having to pay 45,000.00 to fix a broken nose suffered by their son. No one in Canada goes bankrupt from paying off their medical bills. My father has been in the hospital since April 28 and is still in hospital. He has a limited income being a senior. How would he pay his bill in the States?


Rose   July 22nd, 2009 9:22 am ET

The fact that Palin is near the top of the Republicans' choice for president in 2012 is a very negative and disturbing reflection of that party. Only the delusional and uneducated think that she has the intellectual capability for the highest office on the planet. She's good at reading pre-written speeches from a teleprompter – and that's about it. Otherwise, she sounds like a junior high school student giving a report in class. Sarah – go make your money and leave us alone.

She definitely lacks the knowledge required. What is the matter with GOP voters? Palin's belief in the bible, family and patriotism is not nearly enough to be president. Unfortunately, for many Americans, that's good enough to get their valuable vote. Sad and irresponsible.

Liz Cheney is a good example of: "like father, like daughter". She had her facts wrong including that Canadians cannot pick their own doctor. Yes, they can. Ask any Canadian. Her defense of Palin was indefensible – Cheney is not "that" stupid. Anything for the Republican cause and at any price? Maybe in her case.


tommy   July 22nd, 2009 10:01 am ET

Liz Cheney wants to be in the spotlight w/all misinformation..who would want to be married to her? similar to Liz Hasselbeck on the View..


Heather Warwick   July 22nd, 2009 10:02 am ET

Ms Cheny is very misinformed on Canadian Healthcare... I am a Canadian and have never been told which doctor to go to and Canada has better surviaval rates for cancer patients..and no added costs. No Canadians go bankrupt due to health costs.


Dana   July 22nd, 2009 10:14 am ET

I think Mr, Joe Jackson should just go back to Las Vegas and not make any comments about Michael. I believe Michael why would he want to go on television and say those things about his father if they were not true. I got the impression that he was on something he could not talk and he didn't know information that as a parent he should know.


Keith   July 22nd, 2009 10:17 am ET

It seems standard GOP rhetoric these days to claim Obama's health care plan will be like Canada's... then make some ridiculous statement about it. Its as if they've take a page from the "Politics of Fear" campaign that saw Bush get re-elected, and apply the same technique to health care reform.

Liz Cheney just brought the discussion to a new low – its embarrassing to Canada and Americans like myself who live here


Karen   July 22nd, 2009 10:20 am ET

Anyone that is taking up for Joe Jackson has a screw loose. Of course he is not going to go on national television and admit to everyone he abused his kids, but there is no question that he did it. Michael would not have such hatred for him and be so messed up if it was not so. Disciplining and abusing are 2 different things, and beating someone across their backs (which Joe has admitted to in other interviews) is ABUSE!! Joe Jackson is a disgrace and people should stop talking to him.


nadia thompson   July 22nd, 2009 10:22 am ET

last night I listened to liz cheyney argue with a very polite lovely southern man. She was asked on numerous occasions to stop interrupting and I found her just horrible. I am an Australian, I grew up with free health care, where you could subsidize with private plans, I went to school in London where the health care is similar,. although I agree there is a problem with having a cap on someones medication for eg cancer, yes there are problems like that to iron out. However I am a single mother and work really hard here in the states, I believe when in rome live as a roman and I spend some god awful amount on health care for my daughter. I would be happy to have a system like in Australia with supplemental private care rather than bleeding people dry. Yes there are kinks to iron out.
I guess my main reason to say anything is, I cannot vote here, I am a green card holder and have been for over 12 years, I am not really very interested in politics because I think it just makes people angry. However just the fact that that liz woman could not be polite made me furious, respect your elders if nothing else.
Larry I think your show is great and I thought joe jackson was full of it and you were superb with the interview, congratulations. Nadia Thompson


Jen W   July 22nd, 2009 10:39 am ET

This question is directed to Kenny Ortega AEG – why are you selling the rights to Sony? I don't want to go see a movie. I want to dance and see a live tribute here in the states. I would pay the price as would everyone else.


mo   July 22nd, 2009 10:41 am ET

The police should issue a statement of apologize after Michael was acquitted of all charges in 2005. The police was wrong to strip search Michael because in the end he didn't commit any crimes.

Michael was so child like, police striped him naked in 1993, they did not apologize to him, and Michael was so traumatized he couldn't talk about it until he died.


Dana   July 22nd, 2009 10:44 am ET

Larry,
I just an article about Michael Jackson called Portait of Jackson's pill comsuption emerges... and in it Dr. Murray says he is he will withhold comment until the coroners test are back... everyone knows why, because than he can cover himself by making some story so he does not look like the bad guy if he says what really happened now, and the cororners verifys what happened Mr. Murray will be doing his practice behind bars.


Dr. Sam   July 22nd, 2009 10:46 am ET

I don't blame Liz Cheney whose real achievement is that she is a former Vice-President's daughter. I blame the media for continuing to give her coverage and a venue to attack President Obama’s progressive agenda. She is an empty suit full of hate for Obama who has generally extended courtesy to his father. Under a Republican administration, Dick Cheney would have been tried for his crimes and misuse of power. He could still face charges abroad for crimes against humanity. I believe that what Liz Cheney spouts to the media is what she and members of her family discuss around the dinner table. The Cheneys have generally shown contempt for others, especially non-Western Europeans, ethnics and blacks. Dick Cheney carried this sense of superiority as an oil executive (Halliburton) exploiting the economies of others nations. That is essentially the mentality we are dealing with. The Cheneys belong to the Neanderthals of the current era. They remain imprisoned within the darkly world of their own narrow vision. They manipulate, lie and event their own facts as needed. When Liz Cheney says Americans are with her or against Obama or against something, she is not talking about the polls that you and I know and read but the conjectures of her own evil imagining. Nevertheless, Obama and Democrats remain much more popular than Bush, Cheney and Republicans! The people, in the present situation, will choose Democrats and Obama anytime even with their eyes close.


kenneth   July 22nd, 2009 10:51 am ET

Palin became addicted to Sak's 5th Avenue & Neiman Marcus & the $20 silk shorts she purchased for her husband,! she likes it "down under" ...& she likes the book deal/millions of dollars/ she should really stay home & personally tke care of her child w/disabilities...


Joanne   July 22nd, 2009 10:52 am ET

Larry,

I want to get a message to Sony. A movie is not the way to go. How boring.Make it a tribute concert. Maybe broadcast the footage to audiences all over but it has to be a different venue. Who can express themseles in a movie theater? I would not go and see it for that very reason.


lynn   July 22nd, 2009 10:56 am ET

Re;MJ

Larry,
Why is there so much focus on things that cannot be changed??

I try not to judge Joe. Its hard but I try not to do it.

The real questions that should be getting asked and focus on is the circumstances around Mj's death.

Where are security tapes??

With these tapes missing along with money and jewlery. How is it possible that LAPD isn't sure whether there is any criminal activity or not??
Seems to me its pretty plain and simple YES!!!

We need explanations that make sense re 911 call, time to call 911. Dr not knowing how to do CPR and the countless other good questions that need answers.

You should try to get some people on the show that can help answer them. I think this is what most MJ fans that dont want to let go need to know in order to let go.

After Dr Murrays non response to MJs father, chances of him giving answers are slim tro none. What about other people in house the day of Mjs death??


Kellie   July 22nd, 2009 10:58 am ET

I am so tired of Americans that are misinformed, about the Canadian healthcare system. We can choose our own doctors, and yes we can walk into any hospital to! Any hospital, to receive care, if needed! We don't have to pay for surgery or cancer treatment. We never get a bill, because of the insurance, not covering certain things. And No high premiums. Everyone is taken care of! And NO if you need care you get it! I, think that the rich in America, are only concerned that they would have to share their fancy doctors. I, am so glad and I, really appreciate that I live in a country like Canada. I used to take my healthcare for granite, until I saw that I am so very lucky to have it! I, really wish that the misinformation would stop! It is funny, that only the rich over there, apposes healthcare for all! It is so sad and frustrating to watch this debate! But Please Liz, KNOW your facts before you spew falsehoods.


Ruth   July 22nd, 2009 11:00 am ET

Larry, how can you continue to have Liz Cheny on your programs, she is a very rude person, continuing interrupting and giving information that is incorrect. She needs to read all the comments on your blog about her lack of knowledge on the Canadian health care system, better still learn the facts on issues before she appears on TV and acts like a expert. She is a product of her upbringing...she is a Cheny Hopefully she will never be elected to office..this country does not need another Cheny.


michele canada   July 22nd, 2009 11:19 am ET

James July 22nd, 2009 1:37 am ET

Joe Jackson Isn’t Telling The Truth About Where Michel Jackson’s Body Is,

ITS NONE OF OUR BUSSINESS WHERE MICHAEL IS BURIED...THE JACKSONS ARE ENTITLED TO THAT RIGHT


Mary U from Ohio   July 22nd, 2009 12:17 pm ET

Larry and the Media and all you others that are so called friends of Michael’s.. STOP THROWING STONES at the JACKSONS.. You say Joe abused Michael. What are you doing?
Lets talk abuse. Larry and everyone else you Mentally and emotionally abused Michael. How.. Kept asking Michael on every interview about .. these were your question… Michael …Why is your skin white? don’t you like being black?.. Why did you let kids come to Neverland Ranch? What did you do to you nose? How many plastic surgery have you had? Why you married Lisa Marie? You are a Freak. It makes me sick that Michael kissed Lisa at the awards. You are Wacko-Jacko. Did you molest that kid? Why would you pay a huge amount in a Settlement? Should i go on. ..You put Michael against the wall a threw stones, Rocks & Boulders at him. Only Opera and Geraldo were the only ones that Made Michael Smile and feel comfortable on an interview. With them we got to know Michael. All you others make Michael feel less as a person. you made him not want to do anymore interviews, and put him in hiding from the public. Still... today the Man is dead what did you do to JOE Jackson. You asked.. What about Michael Surgeries? What about the Molesting? Not once did you ever ask Michael what is you Favorite Book? or any thing good. Larry ..ans the rest ....You abused Michael… GOD>>> I hope the Jackson’s put you on the Stand and ask you ..What you did to Michael. Judge not and you will not be Judged. ….Judge and you Shall be Judge.


Rose   July 22nd, 2009 12:24 pm ET

Larry: Whenever you have Republicans on your show, the overwhelming majority of your GOP guests are grossly misinformed (especially Liz Cheney). Or they are not misinformed by choose to spew misinformation to unsuspecting viewers who may not know better – aka propaganda, passing as "informed" discourse (ha!).

The Republican mantra thrives on creating fear, doubt and misinformation. The video clip you showed on your program of a hysterical GOP supporter at a meeting screaming that Obama was not born in the US, with others cheering her on is a strong reflection of the intense ignorance within a large number of Republican voters. This is also brought on by the most idiotic right-wing talk/radio show hosts in America – that GOP supports tend to believe due to the continued ignorance. Big enough lies tend to take on its on "reality".

I think sanity should be a requirement for the right to cast a vote. Believing the earth is older than 6,000 years is a good start (did you hear that Sarah Palin)?


Elisheva, Jerusalem/Israel   July 22nd, 2009 1:04 pm ET

I once read MJ said that despite everything what happened, he wanted to obey the 5th commandment: honor your parents.

That doesn't mean the pain went away, but it could have meant he forgave his father after all.


inez   July 22nd, 2009 1:27 pm ET

Mr King, I hope you do not have the beginning of Altzheimers, letting Lz Cheney get away w/being rude & uninformed...what a horrible guest...


Reba Armstrong   July 22nd, 2009 3:01 pm ET

So you see, CNN and Mr. King, the vast majority of bloggers here have stated their view of Liz Cheney: she's rude, and ignorant of the facts regarding health insurance in Canada, the VA, and what universal health insurance in the United States would be. So why do you keep giving her so much play?

Sadly, if the Republican Party does not become an intelligent, objective, and thoughtful party again, another party will have to take its place. It has become the party of rudeness, thoughtlessness, ignorance, subjectivity, and rudeness.

Thank God and the American people that they were smart and wise enough to elect such a man as Barack Obama, the voice of reason, intelligence, thoughtfulness, knowledge, objectivity, and compassion.

Republicans need to get over the loss of the election, and get on board to support our country__and stop being a party of obstructionists and nincompoops.


Always   July 22nd, 2009 3:03 pm ET

During the 1960's & 1970's, many African American parents spanked their children with a belt. I was disciplined by parents that way, as were many of my friends. Some of my friends parents used a switch from a tree or an extension cord or telephone cord to spank their children. Was it child abuse? We didn't think so; we thought we were being disciplined. Child abuse to me is what happened to one of my white friends. Her father punched her in the face and broke her nose, and he kicked her in the stomach and broke her ribs. Was Michael Jackson or any of his siblings ever in need of medical attention after they received their "beating" from Joe Jackson? If not, then it wasn't child abuse. If parents were discipling their children the way we were disciplined back in the 1960's & 1970's, then maybe we wouldn't see as much juvenile crime as what is currently being reported (10 year old murders, 12 year old rapists, etc.)


Always   July 22nd, 2009 3:10 pm ET

I NEVER heard Joe Jackson specifically say he was taking the children on tour. If you replay the interview, you will see all he did was respond to a question about whether the kids had any talents. The news media takes everything out of context.


Dona Perk   July 22nd, 2009 4:00 pm ET

Michael's sensitivity was no secret. But, still the press hammered him obscenely, and not just the rag sheets. Interviews with Diane Sawyer, Oprah (she asked him if he was still a virgin?), Barbara Walters, too many to mention by name, treated Michael inhumanely. Sawyer states in the interview with Lisa and Michael, how their marriage "must be a farce, couldn't possibly be the real thing"....how horrible and cruel is that? In her interview with Brittany Spears , she asks, How could you still like him with all those allegations about children?" Martin Bashir should take full responsibility for putting the nail in Michael's coffin. His two faced, horrible excuse for a "documentary" was only designed for one reason: to destroy a man's life and career....which he succeeded in doing. All these "reporters" over the years (you know who you are) should hang their heads in shame. Although I am not a big Geraldo fan, his interview with Michael is the most kind and respectful in recent years that I have seen.He is the only one in the media who has spoken out regarding MJ's innocence.
Despite Michael's extraordinary talent, there lied a sweet, vulnerable little boy. A boy who spent his entire life being the target of bullies.


nicky   July 22nd, 2009 4:01 pm ET

As a Michael's fans for almost 30 years now, I would like to know what happened on that 25th June 2009....if some people are responsible of his death, they must pay for it but please, we don't need to know if Michael had sex with Debbie Rowe or another woman, we don't need to know anything about his private life, we don't need to know where his body is....we had the chance to say goodbye to Michael on that 7th july with all the other fansof all over the world...now, we just have to leave him alone and think about Paris,Prince and "Blanket" ...they have lost a father and not a star...I can imagine what their sadness is when they read or listen to all those informations....the media just have to inform us about the cicumstances of the death and that's it...I just hope that now Michael is at peace with himself

Nicky (Belgium)


jaime mof   July 22nd, 2009 4:25 pm ET

Larry, you should have asked Joe about the fact that all his kids were made to call him "Joseph", not "Daddy" when they were growing up. Not a very paternal guy. In some abusive homes, one child will be singled out and abused more than the others. Some kids are less resilient than others and never recover. Due to MJ's sensitive and gentle nature, he was probably one of those kids that could never fully get over his childhood.....it haunted him for his entire life, whether he forgave his father or not.


LacrosseMom   July 22nd, 2009 5:33 pm ET

LARRY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE CHENEY THE LIAR ON, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE ON WHO IS WILLING TO CHALLENGE HER LIES.

CNN WOULD DO AMERICA A HUGE FAVOR BY TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT CANADA'S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM! THEY ......CAN...... AND.........DO...........CHOOSE THEIR OWN DOCTORS!

The healthcare debate is becoming as disturbing as the tobacco debate was, with the tobacco lobby denying smoking KILLS!


CHRIS FROM NY   July 22nd, 2009 5:52 pm ET

I heard what the guy said. He never said he did not beat his kids he said he never harmed his kids. Those are two different things. Disciplining your child and harming your child are two different things. Is there a chance you could harm a child while trying to discipline him/'her? Sure you can. But that's what discipline means. Somone should look it up in the dictionary unless society is now advocating that we shouldn't discipline our kids.


NINA   July 22nd, 2009 8:18 pm ET

Hey people what part can't you get??? Mr Joe Jackson is very disappointed by us , yes all of US (American people). If you remember he said it the first day they interviewed him on I beleive BET award. We were never been FAIR for Michael when he was alive. Mr Joe said why weren't we supportive in his troubled time when he was suffering for all those crimes that he has never done. It is too late. and he is mad about that. He is grieving when he is with his family or alone but doesn't want to show it to the public.


NINA   July 22nd, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Always: great job. Dear Michael R.I.P...... We Love You


NINA   July 22nd, 2009 8:29 pm ET

Justice for Michael death. He was pure, innocent, lonely soul who suffered too much when he was with us. Michael I Love You


Lori   July 22nd, 2009 9:13 pm ET

I think with the interview last night that Joe Jackson should have said right from the beginning "I plead the 5th." He just didn't seem to "know" anything.


EJH   July 22nd, 2009 9:48 pm ET

In response to Momma C:

We may not live next to Mexico, but we do live next to the United States of America.

We have had Americans with serious illnesses move to our country to take advantage of our heatlh care system because cannot afford to be ill in their own country. Our taxes pay for their health care.

We have senior citizens that come to our country in buses (particularly to Ontario and Manitoba) to obtain precription medications because they cannot afford to buy them in their own county. Our taxes essentially help pay for that as well, because of our Federal Government exerts some control over how much pharmaceutical companies can charge. And it is our tax dollars that support our Federal Government.


patti   July 22nd, 2009 10:22 pm ET

NO MORE Liz Cheney, Mr King..she should be home taking care of her 5 children,,,,enough said ,,,


Toni   July 22nd, 2009 10:27 pm ET

Dona Perk, I really agree with you. But when it came to his children, he was a Man.


Moosie   July 22nd, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Is that boy on et Micheal secert son?
Larry you need to try to get him on your show!
He dances just like Micheal and sing too!
He look just like blanket!
HE sat right next to Joe JAckson at the Memorial!
LOOK AT HIM THEN LOOK AT MICHEAL YOUNG YEARS
BEFORE PLASTIC SURGEY AND SKIN CHANGING!
He is michael all the way!
i saw DNA TEST!!!


kelly   July 22nd, 2009 10:49 pm ET

Hey Larry, i hope that due to the overwhelming response from all of your Canadian viewers over Liz Cheneys ignorant comments regarding our health care system that we are allowed our say on your next program! At least a mention would be nice, as you can see its infuriating when we hear lies about our country and its an injustice to any American family who cannot afford health care! Why would your politicians want people to suffer? Thank goodness I live in a country that believes everyone is equally important.


Bonnie   July 22nd, 2009 10:51 pm ET

Has anybody noticed the similarities in Liz & Hannity? They talk over talking points of anyone who professes a different belief. Boring..just boring! Larry, give the Canadian government equal time to defend their health care system..PLEASE!


Mark in St. Louis   July 23rd, 2009 1:58 am ET

To Steve G –
I wish the plan presented would do what they say, but you know that when the government gets involved, nothing but bad things happen. The devil's in the details and all other programs that the govt. has managed have gone to crap. Examples... Medicare, Medicaid, Amtrak, Social Security, The Stimulus Package, TARP.

Get past the rhetoric, don't forget, conservatives as well as liberals want some reform. It just needs to be done the right way. Lets not throw away the good elements of our health care system. This liberal socialized plan as presented has some scary details in it.


sms   July 23rd, 2009 3:05 am ET

Larry, pls STOP talking over people and interupting them !!
It's so frustrating, you ask a great question and then you cut them off,,, you do this all the time.

You have great guests and topics but your interviewing skills are way off base.

I have started only watching your show when there is a guest host,,,because I find what you do so rude and irritating.

I doubt you will see this, but perhaps your producers will and will say something to you, tks.


don perk   July 23rd, 2009 3:19 am ET

Toni, yes when it came to his children, Michael was a Man, more than a Man, he was a father, a very good, loving father. He considered his children to be the greatest accomplishment of his life, which is a huge statement given how extraordinary his life was. I hope the media refrains from further discussions regarding paternity.......he is their father and always has been regardless of DNA. Again, this is the media at its worst having total disregard for 3 children who have just lost the only parent in their lives. Let's celebrate Michael's life, not destroy what he left behind.....and then let's go cut Bashir's balls off!


robert & sally   July 23rd, 2009 5:33 am ET

please get to the bottom of this investigation...we see a long drawn out trial & jail terms for a few DRS who only wanted MJ's money..we are in mourning,,the entire world is, what a senseless tragedy & 3 lovely children left w/out a loving Dad...


Joe   July 23rd, 2009 5:45 am ET

Doctors move from Canada to US because they want to soak their patients dry and can't do it in Canada. Why not soak the americans, they are rich, they don't need universal health care, always complaining, blah blah blah


Joe   July 23rd, 2009 5:49 am ET

geezzz Mark, move to north korea, you don't deserve the programs offered to the americans, blah blah blah


Kathie   July 23rd, 2009 7:20 am ET

hi larry -As a canadian viewer i feel we should have our say before you slander our great health system which stupid cheney knows nothing!!! Will you do a story on our health system (i doubt it) after all it might even show we have a system that actually works. We are least taking care of our own; more than you can say with people loosing everything when someone gets sick. Corney as it sounds you should stand UNITED. Must be a lot of rich people that make over 500,000.00 in the US who are shaking in their shoes thinking they might have to pay more, who critisize our system and use scare tatics Mr. King you make over 500,000.00 don't you??P.S. DON'T EVER HAVE THAT STUPID YAPPY CHENEY ON AGAIN............


MARIA U   July 23rd, 2009 10:09 am ET

TO MARY U FROM OHIO... AMEN... WELL SAID.. AND GOOD QUESTION.... HAHAHAHA NOW YOU MAKE ME LAUGH....


Callie   July 23rd, 2009 10:15 am ET

Please enought is enought let Micheal Jackson rest .


MARIA U   July 23rd, 2009 10:23 am ET

I DON'T HAVE POWER OR RIGHT TO TAKE A LEGAL ACTION OR SUE MARTIN BASHEER.... FOR WHAT HE DID TO MICHAEL...

TO ALL PEOPLE
TO YOU LARRY

PLEASE WATCH AGAIN
LIVING WITH MICHAEL JACKSON – INTERVIEW WITH MARTIN BASHEER..

AND WATCH LIVING WITH MICHAEL TAKE TWO – "THE FOOTAGE YOU'LL NEVER MEANT TO SEE" – HOSTE WITH MAURY POVICH..

AND THEN.. JUST LOOK AT MICHAEL BEFORE HIS INTERVIEW.. WITH MARTIN BASHEER...

MARTIN BASHEER WAS A NIGHT MARE TO MICHAEL, AN EVIL ACT TO RUINED HIS LIFE.. LEAD HIM TO DEEP DEEP DEEP DEPRESSION... UNFORTUNATELY... MICHAEL TRUSTED HIM SO MUCH....
I OR WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION ABOUT MARTIN BASHEER INTERVIEWED.... BUT WE HAVE VOICE TO DEPEND MICHAEL..

AN EVIL ACT CAN KILL HUMAN..... I JUST HOPE THERE'S LOTS ROOM FOR MARTIN BASHEER AND MURRAY IN HELL..


Jacquelyn   July 23rd, 2009 1:20 pm ET

Callie

Michael will rest even better after this case is solved. If he was in fact murdered then justice need to be served. And all of Michael Jackson true fans would see to that.


Valmai   July 23rd, 2009 8:08 pm ET

This poem is a collection of words from Michael’s songs with some of my own thrown in. I couldn’t think of a better way for me to honor him and as this is from my heart, anyone who is not a fan of his and wants to hate on him, please have some respect for those of us who loved him. I hope you enjoy this tribute and may karma kick Martin Bashir where he deserves it most. In his big mouth.

My Farewell To Michael

You were there, before we came
You took the hurt, you took the shame
Your heart was pierced by lies and doubt
They did not care, just how you felt.
But you are not alone
I am here with you
Though we’re far apart
You’re always in my heart
My life won’t be the same
Because you came and changed
The way I walked
The way I talked
You rocked my world
And knocked me off my feet.
There was something about you
Made me tale a look at the world
Made me change my views
Black or white, it didn’t matter
Didn’t want to spend my life being a color.
Your words were deep
And asked me to look
Deep inside myself
Whatever it took
I wanted to heal the world
Make it a better place
For us, for the children
For the entire human race.
But while you led with dance and song
Everything just started, going wrong
Allegations, speculations
Victim of brutality, victim of hate.
They tried to kill your name
Victim of shame
They raped you of your pride
Stripped you of your rights.
But do you remember
How it all began
It just seemed like heaven
So why did it end?
Now you’re out of my life
Don’t know whether to laugh or cry
Don’t know whether to live or die
And it cuts like a knife
That you’re out of my life.
So, another day has gone
And I’m still all alone
How could this be
That you’re not here with me
And you never said goodbye.
But I understand you had to go
And at your journey’s end I hope you know
I believed in you and loved you more
From far across the distant shore
Yes, I am here because you were there.
RIP Michael Jackson 1958-2009


Mark in St. Louis   July 24th, 2009 2:36 am ET

You go to North Korea if you like big brother government telling you what to do all the time. You go ahead and just be one of the Sheeple.


Mark in St. Louis   July 24th, 2009 2:38 am ET

Good to see that people are waking up to the fact that this 1000-page health care plan is a piece of trash.


Joe   July 24th, 2009 3:32 am ET

Mark, why don't you run for president?


Bonnie   July 25th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

I believe the president has a plan for healthcare that our congressman will eventually understand. It is just a matter of time before they realize it. It is a good thing he embraces their ideas in that it allows them to think things through. Not like the previous administration that picked it's cabinet & then dictated policies that got us where we are today. I am glad we have the opportunity to nit pick this thing to death. It may be a long row to hoe but we are the beneficiaries of they're labor. We reap what we sow so think about that when your @ the ballot box next time.


Mark in St. Louis   July 26th, 2009 4:02 am ET

To Joe: Why not? But why not you too? When are people going to realize that the people in power think that they know what's best for you. They obviously don't. Term limits for all and no lobbyists!

To Bonnie: It's the current administration that picked it’s cabinet & then dictated policies that got us where we are today. The health care plan as proposed isn't a good one so, I'm also glad it has been at least temporarily slowed. But this is only because of pressure by the citizens.


Mark in St. Louis   July 26th, 2009 4:07 am ET

The WHO has created it's own stats and has it's bias. Of course the facts are obvious that the U.S. has the best system, though flawed. The cancer rates of survival are out there. Do a little more research and you will see the truth that the U.S. has the best rates. Obviously. That's why people come here for treatments. Americans don't go somewhere else for most treatments.


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