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June 3, 2009

Wednesday, Larry King Live Discussion Thread

Posted: 03:09 PM ET

blagojevich4Tonight on Larry King Live former Democratic Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich.  He's been impeached, ousted from office, and now faces trial on federal corruption charges.

Now his wife, Patti, is in Costa Rica on NBC's 'I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here.'  NBC wanted Rod to do the show but a judge barred him from leaving the United States.

Legal analysts note that anything Patti says on the show could potentially be used against them in court.  Is it too big of a risk?
Also, NBC is paying Patti to participate in the show.  She has said she's doing it for the money.  She also is raising money for charity.  The charity now says they can keep the cash!

Do you have questions for Rod Blagojevich, or do you have something you want to say to his wife Patti?  Sound Off ... and tune in tonight to hear their reactions on Larry King Live, 9pm ET.

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By James Janega |Tribune staff reporter

The day after former Illinois First Lady Patti Blagojevich ate a dead tarantula on network television to benefit herself and a charity, the selected charity said today it had declined the offered money. Another charity took its place, said NBC.

The former first lady said last Thursday she would be on "I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here" for some undisclosed compensation, as well as to raise money for Bear Necessities Pediatric Cancer Foundation. Not so, the foundation said, rejecting the offer last week on principle.

Among the things federal prosecutors allege about former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is that in his last weeks as governor he tried to extort a campaign donation from the charity's partner hospital, Children's Memorial Hospital, in exchange for releasing reimbursement funds to them. A federal judge prohibited the ex-governor from competing on the show, which is filmed in Costa Rica. His wife went on instead.

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Joanne Osinkowski Ontario Canada   June 3rd, 2009 5:49 pm ET

Rod Blagojevich belongs in Bedrock. This guy not only looks like Fred Flintstone he is as dumb as old Fred is, not to mention his head is as hard as a rock!!!


Ron San Bruno Ca   June 3rd, 2009 7:21 pm ET

If rod was offered a plea bargain and pled guility to a lesser charge would he except it , knowing that his children would be saved from the shame of his trial .


Jonny Umansky   June 3rd, 2009 7:55 pm ET

Perhaps this is indicative of what's wrong with the greater picture of American society. Rod Blagojevich's wife is not a celebrity. She should not be celebrated because her husband was a corrupt politician. NBC was once the network of shows such as "The West Wing." Now they've relegated themselves to the lowly role of court jester.

If America wants to step forward out of this regression and into the light of tomorrow, we need to stop allowing ourselves to become smitten with smut like Blagojevich.

We should know better.


Darlene   June 3rd, 2009 8:00 pm ET

I guess i am one of a few, who believe Rod Blagojevich might, have been set up!


Michael Hackley USA   June 3rd, 2009 8:54 pm ET

Blagojevich is a joke! For his own benefit, he should just go away. His time is over. He just does not "get it".


Dodie ~ California   June 3rd, 2009 9:02 pm ET

Oh Good Grief!!! Now Rod Blagojevich is on a reality show??? What is our country coming to??? Instead of watching kate 8, Octomom and now Rod Blagojevich, these people could make use of their lives by looking for a solution to the innocent children in Uganda, who are currently suffering and dying! I still do not understand why we give so much attention to unnecessary issues like these mindless reality shows instead of focusing and dealing with real tragedy.
Now that is ((( reality)))


Judy Maloney   June 3rd, 2009 9:10 pm ET

What we should do to help that young dad get his son back from Brazil is to boycot all products that come into the US and everything that goes to Brazil.


Dodie ~ California   June 3rd, 2009 9:15 pm ET

If the child was born in the USA, then the child is American and should be returned to his biological father in the event of his mother’s death. It would be no different if the reverse were true, and the child was born in Brazil until its mother took it to the USA. I would hope that we would return that child to its biological father in Brazil since the child would be seen as Brazilian.


Charles   June 3rd, 2009 9:16 pm ET

Why isn't this man going to the state department saying Brazil is holding an American citizen hostage, this is wrongt and the man who has him is wrong and it's bad for the child. This is when the US Gov't State Dept needs to step in. The man was not divorced from his wife, and that constitutes abduction


Tim Hendon, Hammond, LA   June 3rd, 2009 9:20 pm ET

Does Blagoveich, Trump and John Edwards all have the same hairstylist? Get rid of that "flip". It looks like you are wearing a toupe!!


Tyler   June 3rd, 2009 9:24 pm ET

A true disgrace to Illinois


Gina W   June 3rd, 2009 9:25 pm ET

Making a living.... How about making a living honestly the way most of us do.... Good mother... Methinks she likes the spotlight and the $$ alot more than her childtren. This whole thing is disgustingly insulting to the American public Apparently RB and wife have that much disdain for the "rest of us". Unbelievable that you would give this "celebrity/publicity hound " any airtime.You don't need people like these for ratings.


Aaron   June 3rd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Rod, we love you. We wait you to run for presidency in 2016!


Tim Hendon, Hammond, LA   June 3rd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

The judge blocked him from doing the reality show because the US does not have an extradiction treaty with Costa Rica and he is definitely a flight risk!


REBECCA L.   June 3rd, 2009 9:29 pm ET

UNTIL THE TRIAL AND ROD IS FOUND GUILTY, I WILL BELIEVE THAT HE IS INNOCENT. I PRAY HE IS INNOCENT.


Kelly Dant   June 3rd, 2009 9:29 pm ET

This guy is great. He is being persecuted by a government that hates him because he helped so many people for so long. Will he take a deal if it is offered to him? A plea bargain? Please hang in there governor–there are a lot of people out here who still believe in you!


Michael Hackley USA   June 3rd, 2009 9:29 pm ET

For making a living, maybe RB could teach an ethics course, "what not to do!"


BlottoBlago   June 3rd, 2009 9:30 pm ET

Are you not only the Governor, are you also a client??


BlottoBlago   June 3rd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Reaction to Heidi & Spencer dropping out of the show?


Tyler   June 3rd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

Rod,

Are you considering a run for president in 2012?


Leanne Alhorn   June 3rd, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Blogovich was only concerned about Chicago. He was reelected because of the Chicago political machine. Our state is in a real mess because of his supposed good deeds. His wife is not a celebrity. Why is she on a TV celebrity show? Interesting that his wife chose to donate her money to rejected it.


angela   June 3rd, 2009 9:32 pm ET

Anyone can make a mistake, if he was such a rotten guy why was he elected to begin with? Americans love to throw those stones.


BlottoBlago   June 3rd, 2009 9:33 pm ET

She's probably thrilled to be away from him.


Ritchie   June 3rd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

What did your father-in-law, Alderman Dick Mell, have to say about his daughter on this 'reality show'?? Is he happy with her??


angela   June 3rd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Patty, I have a potty mouth too when I am angry.


BlottoBlago   June 3rd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

Patti did a bad, bad thing


Aspen   June 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Rod I believe that what happened to you was out of politricks but you and your wife did create a bit of mess of your own.

Why do you people who dress up in your jacket and tie and fancy outfits and makeup speak so much filth?

Out of self respect, why can't your outfits , titles and stuff create in people like you a cleaner mouth, better language and a more respectful profile?


BlottoBlago   June 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Blago, available for children's birthday parties?


Nadina   June 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

Forget reality TV-I would have divorced him.


Kitty   June 3rd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

The Children's Memorial Hospital shouldn't refuse the Charity from Patti, which got from the Reality show. The donation from this show is legitimate; the person who decided to refuse the donation actually took away the right of those who can benefit from this donation. No matter how much this person dislike Patti, the matter of fact is there're people who need the donation and he/her has no right to decide for the people in need.


Elan   June 3rd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Why doesn't he ever just answer the question?


angela   June 3rd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Uh-oh, he talks too much...Rod, be sincere , slow down and dont be afraid to tell that truth you are so depending on to save you. You are paraphrasing everything.


Joe Gouffon   June 3rd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Your brother, Rob, is a great guy. H e really helped me at First American National Bank in Nashville when I was an investment rep and having a difficult time with my boss in Knoxville. Rob was over our Wealth Mgmt. Division.give Rob my regards, please. Thanks, Joe


Michael Hackley USA   June 3rd, 2009 9:38 pm ET

Integrity is not something others can "trick" you into losing. You either have it or you don't.


Ron San Bruno Ca   June 3rd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Larry he is controlling he's a con I'm sorry but this man is will use cancer and the misfortune of the American's who are suffering because of CON's . He's a Blood Sucker of the worst kind . Even Dracula had more class .


Joey   June 3rd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

Rod did what every politician in chicago does...pay for play


Bill Sinclair   June 3rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Many people in the public's eye have done many indiscretions. Do you feel the smears started shortly after you tried to help the people of Illinois by asking the Bank of America to leave?


Aspen   June 3rd, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Do you think that Hillary is busy using Obama's platform to subtle start her 2010 campaign instead of being secretary of State.

I believe that Rod may not have been perfect but he is being used as a scape goat too. Although he may have lied too, some lies are being told on him somewhere by others.

All of those throwing stones at Rod are not perfect. Judge going to jail. Doctor going to jail. Governor going to jail. I mean.....a lot of us are just "problems and messes" dressed up in expensive outfits, ok!


Wes   June 3rd, 2009 9:44 pm ET

Rod.... Do all of us, and yourself, a big favor, and please just go away!!


Aspen   June 3rd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Obama won and it made a lot of them mad. They did not want another black mayor. Rod put one in and they all went mad at him and pushed him out of office.


Kamau G   June 3rd, 2009 9:47 pm ET

People should treat Patti as an individual and give her the respect she deserves


Michael Hackley USA   June 3rd, 2009 9:50 pm ET

If you have integrity nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters.


William Courtland   June 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

This is another example of how Parties in politics allow for mass corruption...

Parties in Canada started when the Federal rail contract of royal order came due to be contracted...

Parties in the United States started with a need to oppose the Presidents nominations: by members of Congress... only the Senate makes such opinions: yet this was the parties systems first incursion into and against the Constitution.

While governors of the party system are not of the same stock as would come from a nation led with the ideal of individuality and just due order, honor, and duty... the party system in this case has gotten its own governor impeached...

To raise money: the first order of a party and its members: the methods they use to have those elected: those elected kept quite about the party system and its individuals and truth while stowed in that party pocket...

A Governor should already be proven to the people: and not require money to campaign: as it should be for a district representative... Sucess should come before fame: and in a logical environment without the party: such would often be the case.

Is Rob Guilty: no... he is only a member of an extreme association of guilt: that of the party system. The people voted in the party: therefor the people voted in this corruption: it did not need to source from the Governor to hold his name in trust in the issue... party affiliates in this case have overturned his position...

So they had a major party in the house: and the house is in ruins... or at least still back in the nineteenth century... living with the flies, without an adequate fire response and safety system, terrible ecological efficiancy, under manned, and underwired...

This is the government you voted for people: they should at least deserve the right to keep it... Such money requirements is nothing new when the party has so many people it needs to pay off and employ along side the real government. Like a pre-government government: parties...


Kamau G   June 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

for some reason, I feel Rod is an innocent man


Chris Johnson   June 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Have you accepted an offer yet on your condo in DC?


Alex Lyrics   June 3rd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Why not be a man and admitt what you did? It would seem obvious that you tried to sell that seat, and ruined the name of that wifes entire family in service.


Emily   June 3rd, 2009 9:52 pm ET

What are you going to do to compensate the taxpayers of Illinois if you are found guilty?


ed   June 3rd, 2009 9:53 pm ET

people need to remember innocent until proven guilty people


Nadina   June 3rd, 2009 9:53 pm ET

Blago,

Does this mean the job offer with Change to Win is off the table?


Ritchie   June 3rd, 2009 9:54 pm ET

Do you think all of us IL residents believe you? I mean beside Tony Rezko??


William Courtland   June 3rd, 2009 9:55 pm ET

Hey it takes money to party: and often the party parites without the Governor: they intend to be their after him after all.

So those people who are to responsible to party: not only will they never be elected: but they will not even be represented...

Capitalism: is what it works to represent: but socialism is why Government works... the intent for civilization: the highest goal: as it is not only beyond your family: but beyond your life: before in respect: and after in honor.


Scott Weyland   June 3rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

If you are innocent, as you claim, do you have faith in the justice system to deem you innocent or do you feel that you are guilty until proven innocent?


G. Gilbert   June 3rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

I applaud Rod Blagojevich and his wife. We should not judge, but let the court play out. If he has done anything wrong, it is no more than others have done. Some of whom are his accusers. Innocent until proven guilty and who are we to judge?


Mike   June 3rd, 2009 9:56 pm ET

It seemed to be a little too swift and well planned when they impeached Rod. Almost as if they wanted him out badly because of their own faults and secrets. Go Blago! You should have been Vice President!


angela   June 3rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Seems there is a fine line between donation and extortion.


Rick   June 3rd, 2009 9:57 pm ET

Blago is an innocent man until proven guilty.


Kathy Lannom   June 3rd, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Rod is a great man full of morality & character. He happened to be the only man in America who decided to take a stand against the great & powerful Bank Of America, but it nots america place to set him up for a fall because he has standards,.


from toronto   June 3rd, 2009 10:35 pm ET

first of all, thank you, Larry, for inviting him and letting him tell his story.

I've never been a fan of Rod, but would like to think he is innocent until proven otherwise.

The more I watch TV or read papers, the stronger my belief that media can screw anybody.


Joy A Lorton   June 3rd, 2009 10:38 pm ET

I don't understand why Rod Blagojevich is still being given a platforn on TV when (in my opinion) he has demonstrated time after time his lack of a grasp of reality and a more than ample supply of excuses for why he's a victim of circumstances. To hear him tell it, you'd think that the entire political structure of Illinois is against him. I highly doubt that he's as important as he envisions himself or as much of a victim as he insists. If nothing else, I'd like to hear Mr. Blagojevich's own words instead of him sprouting platitudes and poetry that has nothing to do with real life.


Debbie Missbrenner   June 3rd, 2009 11:08 pm ET

I wish I knew in time tonight that you were going to have Rod Blagojevic on your program. He is pleading for presumption of innocence when it's his behind on the line and possibility of spending time in jail. In 2005 my son asked for the same and was denied with help from Rod. Judge ordered the alleged victim to view the tape of the alleged rape, she refused, and Rod went on TV to state that the rape victim should not be forced to watch and relive the ordeal all over again. He stated that he is going to make it a LAW prohibiting the rape victims to be subjected to such procedures. I am not sure if he did that or not. Jury saw the tape and saw that the alleged victim was not passed out as she stated and that she was clearly participating in the act. The verdict was "Not Guilty" on all counts and this girl was never asked to explain her actions on this video. This is a very long and very painful story of how politicians are ready, willing and able for their own selfish political gains to destroy someone's life. My son was 17 in 2002 when this happened and finally cleared in March of 2007. My husband wrote a book "Cry for Justice" by Damir Missbrenner that's published by Seven Locks Press and is coming out now in June. When I watch Rod complaining that he was denied of presenting evidence while being impeached as the Governor of Illinois, I say to myself "Karma" . I am not vindictive and I don't know what's in store for him but I do know that he is tasting some of his own medicine right now.


Blue   June 4th, 2009 12:41 am ET

Former Gov, thank Goodness, is way out of realism. A very scary individual and his wife is worse.


James   June 4th, 2009 12:48 am ET

I've never seen so many negative response's toward's the former gov esp with his hair ! Are people that jealous over his hair , who care's I wish I still had hair like that !

Good luck to you and your wife Mr Blagojevic


Michael Wallman   June 4th, 2009 1:03 am ET

When I heard Mr. Blagojevich quote a poem from Escalus, it felt like a prick to the heart.

Little did he know, that Robert F Kennedy used the same quote, the same lines, when announcing that Martin Luther Kind Jr. was shot and killed.

Please Mr. Blagojevich, repect these words, as they echo clearly in the hearts of many of us.


Joe Farmer   June 4th, 2009 1:03 am ET

With all the budget deficits and criminals out there why do we continue to pursue Rod Blagojevic and other big names that really have committed real crimes. This is right there with the money the federal government is wasting prosecuting Barry Bonds and now maybe Roger Clemens. If ordinary people had done any of these samethings there would have been no prosecution whatsoever!


Ramie   June 4th, 2009 1:16 am ET

The only thing this govenor was concerned about was bringing money to Chicago and himself. I love how he claims he was helping us little people. He didn't even realize that Illinois extended past Chicago. He doesn't have one once of remorse for what he has done. At one point he had closed all state parks south of Chicago. He even closed Lincoln Log Cabin. He talks about giving to charities is a joke. He could have been a role model and donated all that money it took to fly him back and fourth from Chicago to Springfield to a charity of his choice. The only ones I feel sorry for in the situation is the children. Both of their parents are obviously corrupt. In this case I hope the apples fall far, far, far away from the tree!


teddy   June 4th, 2009 1:36 am ET

he will do anything to make money. 1 selling obama`s senate seat . 2 sending his wife to the jungle with young men and women this man is crazy.......larry.


Shari in Florida   June 4th, 2009 2:39 am ET

"Eating a tarantuala is an act of love".
Now that's a sentence you don't hear every day!

But then again, you don't often see full-grown humans eating bugs on purpose. Usually that is reserved for boys under the age of 13.

Politicians suspected of corruption have been around forever. Infamous people willing to do anything for money and self-promotion have probably been around just as long-although not via Reality Programs. I don't really care to see either on my television.

It appears that Mr. Blagojevich wants us to sympathize with him and the resulting plight of his family. In responding to questions about why the reality show, He said something to the effect of, 'I/we have to make a living so we can support our family.'

True. But are they confusing "making a living" with "maintaining a lifestyle"? If the allegations about the Blagojevich administration are true, this man,his wife and their cronies are people who put the accumulation of wealth way too high on the priority list.

A great many American families have fallen upon hard times in the last couple of years and are unable to maintain their previous lifestyles...and with the exception of other politicians and some CEO-type folks, the majority are in this predicament for reasons OTHER than being indicted on criminal charges. Like the majority, the combination of a common family issue (sick elderly parent) and the sinking economy got us. Of course I miss going to the job I am trained for, greatly enjoyed and was well-payed to perform. My sister and I have given up all but very few of the perks of our previously middle class lifestyle to deal with our family crisis, and I have taken several temporary jobs doing work that was boring,well-beneath my capabilities–and the pay was pretty dismal–but it got some money coming in. Our Mom didn't choose to time her Alzheimer's decline with the economic decline just to torture her children. That's Life and the way we are dealing with it is by trying to maintain a bit of dignity about ourselves no matter what the situation while endeavoring to make wise choices. counting the pennies and being patient until things start to get better. It used to be known as "Being a Grown-Up" or "Behaving Like an Adult"

And no matter how hard it gets, It would never occur to me to become a whiner-especially not to a bunch of strangers in a public forum!!

In comparison there is the behavior of Mr.Blagojevich-Good Grief–How he does run on....
and those quotations! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!! I've been trying to figure out if he is trying to appear to be thoughtfully well-read, philosophical; or does he actually do some reading but without really understanding; OR--does he just happen have discovered Bartlett's Familiar Quotations?

Tonight I also noticed that after quoting the Greek poet, he cited the Greek Historian who translated/authored/edited the poem before citing the original Greek poet. Being from Illinois, I would think he would at least be aware of "The CHICAGO Manual of Style". Ironic.

I'm sure their family is having a rough time. But if (I did say IF–he is indeed innocent until proven guilty) they brought it on themselves.... ah well... a little less talk and a little more diginified, grown-up behavior might be the best move the former Mayor and his wife could make at this time in order to garner some sympathy for their cause.


LTL   June 4th, 2009 5:36 am ET

If Rod Blagojevich be on the show, he will be breaking the law of fleeing.


Christa   June 4th, 2009 6:07 am ET

It disgusts me that Blagojevic is even on your show, able to continue his pathetically transparent posturing. I really don't care if he's technically guilty or not, because I'm certain he's a pretty repulsive person that has not, as he claims with the tone of a martyr, served the people with their best interests at heart. There are thousands of other more relevant stories out there that don't involve giving such a sorry man more time in the spotlight.


Ben   June 4th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

I am keenly watching how the US justice system handles Rod's case. In the developing world, we are used to abuses of power and manipulation of the judiciary to fit political ends. Hope not so for the USA.
I am encouraged by Rod's inner strength and faith. These are the tenets of personal victory in times of trial


Vallary   June 4th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

Stop giving him air time. He is as dumb as the day is long. There are more pressure issues out there than this clown . He tried to double deal and got caught . Why isn't he in jail. whey aren't you covering Pat Tillman case. our troops, jobs, houseing. Where is the Educational Lotto money in NC. This money was to help education in North Carolina. and they are letting 700 teachers go in this state. Why isn't this being cover?


Gary from Connecticut   June 4th, 2009 4:20 pm ET

Mr. Blagojevich’s appeal to my sympathetic nature and tendency to forgive those who appear humbled by their misdeeds almost got to me …...until he got to the point where he lapsed into his now familiar refrain…”

“You know, when you go through something like this, and you know that you've done nothing wrong, and you're shocked that so many of these things have happened the way they have, and you've been fighting through them, you spend time, when you have the time, as I've had, to reflect a little bit and to think through some of this. You can choose to be bitter and you can be angry and you can choose to just give up and lose perspective. Or you can choose to try to find wisdom in all of this.”

And then the sleazy ex-governor sunk to a new low…misquoting Aeschylus in exactly the same way that Robert Kennedy did when RFK broke the news of Martin Luther King's death to a large gathering of African Americans at a planned campaign rally in Indianapolis, Indiana on April 4, 1968.

"Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."

Following up on Mr. Wallman's comment above – I think he did know where he stole it from – just because he had never heard of RFK's he was again under estimating who he was speaking to.

Listening to the recording of RFK's words that night it's hard to imagine a single politician active today who could deliver such a speech in the moment, without notes and without a team of speech writers. Even those with such resources would be hard pressed to equal his dignified, decent eloquence in this moment of horror.

The nerve of Mr. Blagojevich to compare his own pathetic situation to that of the assignation of Martin Luther King is beyond comprehension and the bounds of common decency.

I’ve never written before but I could not let this pass unchallenged.

Sincerely,

Gary from Connecticut


Anonymous   June 7th, 2009 9:44 pm ET

I am glad that Patti gets an opportunity to make money for their family. I think they will need it.


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