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February 2, 2009

LKL BLOG EXCLUSIVE: "Jon & Kate plus 8" commentary

Posted: 10:34 AM ET

This is an exlusive LKL Blog commentary by Kate Gosselin of TLC's "Jon and Kate plus 8" – Kate, a mother of twins and sextuplets, will also be our guest tonight on Larry King Live!  Let us know what you want to hear from Kate NOW!kategosselin

When parenting multiples, there are many things that are important to remember. Here are a few:

1. Parenting multiples is totally different than parenting a singleton. The schedule and methods that work for a singleton will need to be amended for multiples. I remember receiving advice from moms of singletons and thinking 'how in the world would that work in my situation?' ... And so it requires a multiple mom to think very much on her own and create a unique schedule.

2. With multiples, help is not an option, it's mandatory for survival.
It was very difficult for me to accept help but I realized that the health and well being of my family depended on me allowing others to step in and help... Many of these people we had never met before!!!

3. Life will never be the same. It will be difficult and beyond manageable at times. Embracing the myriad of changes is very difficult but very necessary. I choose to see the blessings, not the inconveniences that multiples bring. The many happy and smiling faces when I come into the room keep me going...

4. Ultimately, the responsibility is on the parents to raise this unique set of people who, although born as a group, are each individual people. It begins with giving enough time to each child and helping him/her to identify their differences.
This is a very difficult task as time is at a premium!!!!

5. A parent of multiples will forever be answering questions, fending off judgment and making logistical adjustments to make life fit their situation. This is just another part of life with multiples that will eventually become normal but, again, takes adjustment and wisdom.

6. Children are meant to be born one or two at a time. Modern science causes more to occur sometimes. While this causes strains, I believe that each life, no matter the circumstances, is created for a purpose and that it is possible to raise "HOM" (higher order multiples) successfully but it takes sheer and utter determination and commitment on the part of the parents!

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John Smalter   February 2nd, 2009 11:43 am ET

Is it not time to send Larry King riding off into the sunset?? Enough already; this rude and (crude) interviewer I think,at the very least, should be spending sometime in the dentist's chair getting a new set of dentures. Nothing like watching him grimacing in an effort to position his false teeth! Give me a break and let's move on.


rodtraverse   February 2nd, 2009 11:46 am ET

dear mr, king
I am a canadian indian living in one of canadas indian reservations, i would like to appear in your show, to have your viewers know that the canadian government does not recognize many of our treaty rights.
i will explain to you in person about these serious matters because we as indian people have needs and dreams much like the black people in usa. The resources that are taken from our lands and sold around the globe does not compensate our people, the government turns around and gives us handouts whereby the canadian tax payer disagrees with this arrangement.
I had the occasion to travel through atlanta last year and would not hesitate to be part of your show.

sincerely,

rod traverse


maria e salinas   February 2nd, 2009 3:31 pm ET

I think plain common sense in part of the Doctor should have been used in this case. The mother obviously has some kind of mental illness. Greed and greed alone is what made this Doctor go ahead with the implantation of 8 embryos. How unethical!

Maria E. Salinas
Key Largo, Fl.


angela jones   February 2nd, 2009 3:50 pm ET

Is Kate still going to ask for "love offerings" now that she's moved into a multi million dollar mansion?


Linda Alimi   February 2nd, 2009 3:55 pm ET

Larry,
I am looking forward to watching your interview with Kate Gosselin this evening. Kate is an inspiration to motherhood. How does she take care of herself? And what does she do to keep her energy level up?
Thanks!


Jack   February 2nd, 2009 3:59 pm ET

I think the G's and their 8 kids are wholly different than the crazy woman in SoCal who intentionally implanted 8 embryos, knowing that there were 6 children already that needed her undivided attention, including one son who is autistic. She now has FOURTEEN children under 7 years of age. She has no spouse or husband to provide support and encouragement - she did this intentionally and her poor children have to live with the consequences! I pray for the best possible life for them, but I fear that the mother is not mentally, physically, emotionally, nor financially capable of caring for 14 children alone. Her parents have already expressed that THEY are overwhelmed.

I hope that the corporate world recognizes the folly of contributing and support her deluded ideals of having a large family on her own!


carolyn saraduke   February 2nd, 2009 4:00 pm ET

kate, maddy seems to still be having a terrible time with her feelings about the little ones. in fact she seems to be getting more out of contol.are you going to get or give her guidence for this, it looks like your all ignoring this serious problem. carolyn s. bandon, oregon


April   February 2nd, 2009 4:18 pm ET

I agree with Jack. The situation in CA is COMPLETELY different than the Gosselin's situation.


Barb   February 2nd, 2009 4:19 pm ET

Larry,

Please be the person to stop the glorification (media and otherwise) of reality TV families and families with multiples. Use your show to wake America up regarding this horrible direction we are taking. Families (especially children) should not have to have their homelife filmed for viewing by the public. Families with multiples should not be put on a pedestal and given everything in life.

Since your show has already booked Kate Gosselin for tonight's show, please don't let her use the show to build herself up further as an expert on being a mother. She is part of the problem not the solution. The California mother of octuplets is quite possibly trying to emulate the road the Gosselins forged to fame and fortune regardless of the cost in the end to the children. And I say 'forged' because I believe that the Gosselins did not happen upon their fame and fortune by accident. Unless the media and the medical community address this in the right way, the Gosselins and the California woman won't be the last to use children for their gain.


jim hester   February 2nd, 2009 4:23 pm ET

The problem is not that she had eight but that she already had six without a father and now there are fourteen without a father to provide nurturing and guidance. Also, by having eight she placed an unnecessary likelyhood that some or all will have physical and developmental problems.


Laura Behan   February 2nd, 2009 4:24 pm ET

Kate,
With the little kids going to kindergarten in the Fall will your show come to an end? Won't it be a lot on the kids to be in school all day and then filming all evening and on weekends in order to continue with a once a week show?
Regards,
Laura Behan


d.w.   February 2nd, 2009 4:26 pm ET

Why isn't Jon Gosselin going to be on with Kate?
Isn't his input as important as Kate's?


Marcie   February 2nd, 2009 4:27 pm ET

HI Kate–I love your show, but it does not show the reality of what other families of multiples will have to endure. Maybe this mother of 14 thought she could make it rich quick by maybe getting her own TV show? I do not take away the fact that your life is difficult, especially with the millions of dollars you are surely receiving each season for your show, but I still think my mom had it much harder than you. She had 8 kids all under the age of 10, no multiples. At least your kids are all growing at the same rate. My mom had different growth rates for all her kids, and no show for us! My vote goes to my mom. Good luck this season. I LOVE your daughter Cara; she always looks so depressed, though. She rarely smiles and just seems overwhelmed at everything that is going on. You totally do not see this. She seems sad and depressed on almost every show. I do not think she is happy at all. I hope she finds happiness one day. Good luck!


Jen   February 2nd, 2009 4:33 pm ET

I just wondered why Kate would not adopt instead of doing the crazy things to have the 6 after the first 2 were born? Concidering all the risks to her and the kids?


Reenie   February 2nd, 2009 4:34 pm ET

Kate
Is it hard for you to watch the scrutiny that the Octuplets Mom is recieving?
I think until we have walked in anyones shoes we cannot judge.
I think maybe we should look more closely on the Drs who implanted so many eggs into a young mom who already had multiple babies. But not come down so hard on her, since she already has a hard path to go down.


Nicole Collins   February 2nd, 2009 4:36 pm ET

I think it's TOTALLY irresponsible to have 14 or even 8 kids! It's obvious Kate is living off proceeds and freebies from the television network and corporate sponsors. I think it's wrong! Perhaps, I should go out and have a bunch of babies then maybe I can move into a multi-million dollar home on several acres and don't have to work! GET REAL Kate!!!

Thanks,
Unemployed mother of 1 child with a Master's degree!!!


Jen   February 2nd, 2009 4:44 pm ET

I find it ironic that the Gosselin's will be guests about a topic such as the Octuplet Mom when we have now learned that she has had plans to use the situation to make money off her newly born children.

Perhaps someone (a producer) can look into the entire story of the Gosselins before treating them as reliable sources on parenthood, when they should actually be interviewed as reliable sources on how to make money off your children.

Where are the ethics in what the Gosselins are doing, and how is that really any different from the schemings that the Octuplet Mom has?


Sharon   February 2nd, 2009 4:48 pm ET

No one woulkd be raising the roof if she only had one child or no children. But this single divorced mother already has six children and now eight more are being added to the family triangle. Who is going to pay all of the doctor's bills? The Taxpayers? This woman should not receive not a dime of assistance from the state. Let her go out and work two or three jobs in order to clothe and educate her children.


Denise Manor   February 2nd, 2009 4:57 pm ET

How do you feel about the intense media coverage of your family? One can see you fiercely protect your children from excessive exposure.
Are there days where you would like the filming crew to leave? And how will your children handle the "no so cute" stage once the cameras are gone?

I know that what you are doing is difficult. At the end of the evening when it is just yourself and your family do you wish you had made different choices in regards to your children?


Ruth   February 2nd, 2009 4:58 pm ET

I hope you really look into the Gosselin situation, it really is not that different than the octuplet mom. Neither was employed when the sextuplets were born, neither is currently employed. She started fertility treatments right off the bat, had twins and then 12 mos later was ready to start treatments again. She was hospitalized for overstimulated ovaries and STILL decided to go ahead anyway. They received a home nurse for a yr, courtesy of the PA taxpayers and then asked for ANOTHER yr, though none of the children had any medical issues. They have paid for almost nothing on their own, spend almost no time with their kids and instead are out touring the country as celebrities. She fails to mention all the nannies, housekeepers, handlers, etc that make it all run so smoothly. Not to mention the free tummy tucks, teeth whitening and hair implants. The parents are making money from the simple notoriety of having had 2 sets of multiples. They even now keep talking about the possibility of adopting a child, she wants a little girl from Korea!


Kris   February 2nd, 2009 5:05 pm ET

Perhaps Larry should ask Kate why she and her husband lied about the reason for their financial plight when the kids were born? They blamed Jon's job loss on getting fired, "for having too many kids and insurance issues" when in actuality he just stopped showing up for work.

They blamed his former employer publically, all the while with their hands out. Check for articles from the Reading Eagle and other archived news sources in PA for proof. People in PA have been on to this family for a long time. I just wish a respected journalistic team like that of Larry King's would do the real journalism instead of skimming the surface on a convenient puff piece.


stacey   February 2nd, 2009 5:06 pm ET

Kate,
My husband and I both watch your show (along with our 5 year old daughter) we absolutely LOVE it. You show us that arguing and being stressed out is NORMAL in a household and the only thing that matters is that our children are loved and taken care of- by any means
. I do not agree with anyone who criticizes having multiples- obviosly you can handle the large family- you do wonderfully!
The difference in these two situations is that the gosselins are a loving family- yes family- and they made decisions for thier family, this woman made decisions for herself only.
So keep up the great parenting!! Ignore those negative people.


Susan Wayt   February 2nd, 2009 5:12 pm ET

It's obvious that the mother should have been sterilized after having six children. To say that wanting to keep having children is an illness is just another cop out. Would she have died if she had been sterlized and not able to have more children? I don't think so. Now she will be collecting thousands more dollars in public assisatnce at taxpayers expense. The eight babies she had should be put up for adoption to people who can provide good, stable homes should be allowed to care for these chidren.


RDS   February 2nd, 2009 5:15 pm ET

Where does Kate Gossein come to be such a pro on this matter.
There are other familys out there that probably have a bit more knowledge then she does.

What about the family that he is a Deputy Sheriff and the one sextuplet has cp?.

Why can't you get comments from them?

Seems to me that Gosselins now are just interested in the money.
THey have changed since they are moving up in the world. Their is a air about them that was not in the beginning.
I enjoyed watching at first, but Kate has lost something that she had in the beginning.


L J   February 2nd, 2009 5:16 pm ET

Now that the Gosselins have moved into their 1.3 million dollar home I am sure that women all over the country will be ordering mail-order fertility drugs.

How does Kate Gosselin feel about the child star advocate Paul Peterson calling her out on her television show. Perhaps one of your researchers should talk to Mr. Peterson.

Kate's children are showing signs of stress, and if your researchers do one bit of research on the Gosselins, you will see that this is a very controversial family.


Kate   February 2nd, 2009 5:19 pm ET

I think the doctors or clinic should pay all the bills for allowing this to happen. The woman who had this procedure is obliviously not right in the head. They should have done a background check and a psychological test on her. I have four children naturally and I have a hard time giving them the attention they need and supporting them financially. I would never have children to get welfare or other hand-outs. People who do this, make me sick! I have taken responsibility for myself. How would they feel if I sent them my hospital, doctor and grocery bills? That's what they do to the American Tax Payer! We shouldn't have to pay for this insanity! I don't know how they can look themselves in the mirror!


Britney   February 2nd, 2009 5:21 pm ET

Larry,

I find it very odd that people are so quick to pass judgement on families who have multiples.

I personally have no children of my own, however, my family is very large family. My Grandfather was the oldest of seven and his mother and father had 10 and 11 brothers and sisters respectively. Doing family research, I know of one set of twins within the family. This was back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. You don't have to have fertility treatments to be a parent of multiples!

Do you think this is just current baby making generation who feels the need to pass judgement on families with so many children or is it just the family dynamic which you come from that helps create your vision of what a family should be?


ks   February 2nd, 2009 5:24 pm ET

I think it is absolutely irresponsible and selfish for ANYONE to have this many children. A news article several days ago indicated that the world is currently overusing its resources by 23%. If people continue to have children at this rate – regardless of the reason – we are going to face dire consequences in the future with respect to both renewable and non-renewable resources. In order to help control the population without completely curbing rights, I emplore our federal government to initiate federal legislation that would limit physicians from implanting more than two embryos at a time.


Victoria   February 2nd, 2009 5:25 pm ET

For Kate to be a SAHM she sure is on the road a lot these days with a media blitz. Come on Larry give her some tough questions and not the fluff that others ask.


Lori   February 2nd, 2009 5:28 pm ET

Kate....How come your parents and siblings, besides your brother, who you just moved away from, are not involved with your family??? What will you do without your brother and his wifes help? Do your parents see you and your beautiful children? I know you have said they choose not to be involved, but does that mean..just not seen on television...or ever seen??? Your choice or theirs??? I asked because the situation sounds much like ours....but we are the family who does not ever see our son and his family...his choice.....and we are heartbroken!!!


Lorri S.   February 2nd, 2009 5:29 pm ET

I am a mother of multiples and although I think John & Kate's show is cute it is not reality at all. It is no different than the Brady Bunch or any other "staged" show. Families with multiples struggle with everything. They do not get free trips to Disney or Hawaii, free tummy tucks, and new bigger houses every time the children grow.

I think until they stop making raising multiples look so cute and fun crazy people like this woman with the octuplets will constantly be trying to gain the same sort of "Free" deal like what the Goslin's have.

I think TLC needs to do a show on a family with multiples with medical issues and no money. THAT is the reality of raising high order multiples. John and Kate are lucky but they are one in a million with all they have lucked into.

The doctors who do not know fertility drugs and invitro procedures well enough to prevent these high order multiples to occur need to lose their licenses to practice.

The lady with the octuplets should have them all removed from her care. She obviously is not right in the head. The doctor who caused this should lose his license along with anyone that assisted him in this procedure.

I am just sick of the hype of all the nonsense. Let's call it what it is.....ridiculous!


Kathy   February 2nd, 2009 5:29 pm ET

Kate Gosselin is a money-hungry, rude individual who only cares about the almighty dollar.

Children aren't cute forever. The little kids are getting to that age. What is greedy Kate going to do when there is no more show? I hoped she has saved all the money she's made off them.

Time for TLC to pull the plug.


doris   February 2nd, 2009 5:30 pm ET

If all you critical people really watch the show you will remember that in the promo Kate explains that they had the twins and decided to try for ONE more but ended up with 6. It was not an intential multiple birth. I don't know it she had multiple eggs inplanted but if so again that was the decision of the doctors and just as Kate I believe that once an embryo is living it is an actual baby and must not be aborted. I love the show and in no way believe that just because they are on TV every thing is made easy for them. They stil have all the everyday situations, sickness and problems that we all have with our own children (those do not go away just because you are on TV). I to however, believe that the one older child does seem very unhappy most of the time. I wish them all the best.


Bob Fort   February 2nd, 2009 5:31 pm ET

This is all just totally sick!


Michelle Lin   February 2nd, 2009 5:34 pm ET

How can parents with several kids expect to learn anything from the advice of the Gosselins, when it seems that her life is supported by the show, freebies, and their book? I don't think that is realistic for "normal families" who don't have those kinds of advantages.

Their show at the beginning showed a humble couple trying to pull through the best they could in their small house, and now they are living pretty large (trips to Disney and Hawaii). Most people don't get those kinds of opportunities alone, let alone with 8 children.

How do the Gosselins make a living? What does John do for a living now, because I'm sure a man working alone will not support them all, especially since he is home so much?

Thank you,
Michelle from St. Louis, MO


Diane Saunders   February 2nd, 2009 5:36 pm ET

Kate:
I regularly watch your show and I'm impressed with how you and Jon manage to raise two sets of multiples. Now that the sextuplets are in preschool, is there any sign of learning disabilities, such as dyslexia? Are all six developing as they should for children approaching 5 years old?


Lynda   February 2nd, 2009 5:41 pm ET

I also would like to see a reputable journalist, such as yourself, attempt to elicit a single truth from Kate Gosselin. Please do your research prior to interview. The Reading Eagle is a good place to start. Perhaps you could ask Kate why she was so intent on fertility treatments subsequent to the twins' birth, since she knew she had overstimulated ovaries and being a nurse, would surely knowl that she would most likely have more multiples and not just two or three. I believe Kate's intention, from the beginning was the exact same idea that this mom of octuplets has....she is selling her story to the highest bidder, I believe the price is now $2 million. Kate saw her children as a way out of their mediocre life. Afterall, Jon did say the children were "marketable". Please tell me what loving, caring parent would say such a thing?


Christy   February 2nd, 2009 5:42 pm ET

As a mother of multiples, I am shocked at the attitudes of the commenters. Why should someone be sterlized just because they already have children? Do you really think she purposely wanted octuplets to cash out? Perhaps she wants to have a large family. You don't know anything about her so shut up! I don't here you passing judgement on celebrities like Brangelina and their 6 kids.

Ruth and LJ, where do you get off passing judgement on the Gosselin family? Yes, they have a 1.3 million dollar house. Now. After spending years in a smaller house with 8 children. As a mother of multiples myself, I know the costs of diapers, formula, clothing and all that goes with babies. If they can make money off their show, then good for then. Don't be a hater.


Nicole   February 2nd, 2009 5:42 pm ET

Kate and Jon took an opportunity when it (the show) was presented to them–and I'm sure the decision was made after muchconsideration–good for them for doing so!! Don't fool yourselves by thinging that having a camera crew around and your home/family/and every little spec lit up for the show (and all TV viewers) is an easy thing. Kudos to them being grounded and realistic enough with eachother and themselves to know what is best for their family as a whole. I don't think that there is anything wrong with their show, as long as there are boundries made that respect family time and privacy.

Their children's lives are richer because of this fortune... (by the way, fortune is not just monetary). This is what I've seen the children be able to do- Cara got to learn to ski (and she was terrific- she glowed with pride), Cara and Maddy got to have "big kid time" with cooking classes (fun& tasty accomplishments), each of the kids get special time with their folks (loving memories made), Maddy got her earpierced and learned how brave she can be (she did great), all the kids learning to help others (trip to St. Jude's), the family gets to have much needed vacations (family memories), and Jon&Kate get to have dates... Bravo! I cheer you all on and wish you all peace and happiness!!


Bea   February 2nd, 2009 5:42 pm ET

She needs to be fixed like the dog she is. How dare her not be married and assume that that is a good thing for all those kids. I think the Dr. needs to be checked out also. Truely I don't want to pay for her kids and she will not be able too.


Lee   February 2nd, 2009 5:42 pm ET

Larry, I think that this country should STOP supporting, giving and paying people to have a large amount of children. It is their choice to have 6 or 8 kids at once, so the parents should work and support them as the rest of us do. I had two children but I didn't get TV airtime, endorsements, paid vacations, free hotels, free airfare, free clothes, etc for my kids.
So this type of show is telling people to go ahead and have more kids than you can afford because you can always go public to be able to support your family and the mom can stay at home that way and not work.... It must be the new American way.....I think that the shows should stop...between them and the Duggar's (18 kids) now the LA mom with 14 kids under 7.....so what channel with that mom be on and how much will she make ?????


CM   February 2nd, 2009 5:43 pm ET

I always feel for the kids who came first in these families. This couple had 2 little girls and they just weren't enough. The McCaughy family in Iowa had a little girl and she just wasn't enough. Don't even get me started on the lady in California with the 14 kids. These parents are willing to go forward with very high risk pregnancies and possibly even endanger their lives because the first one or two just weren't good enough for them. Litters of children aren't normal and shouldn't be glamorized. I hope the parents of the woman in California refuse to help her anymore with her 14 kids. The parents raised their children. A grandparents role should be to enjoy their grandchildren on a casual basis, not be a surrogate parent when the children's mother can't handle what she's purposely created. She wanted 14 children, now she can take care of 14 children. Good luck!


Noreen   February 2nd, 2009 5:44 pm ET

I wish Jon Gosselin would be on. Kate is way to neurotic and annoying. I think Jon is the one to watch and listen too. He is mellow and cool and reminds me of my own husband, who happens to also be named Jon.


Caral from SoCal   February 2nd, 2009 5:44 pm ET

I think Jon and Kate and their children are a family. They obviously love their children, and I totally support them. I don't really care how many children they have, they are making it work.

This lady – from what we know now – has no husband, no visible means of support, is evidently "obsessed" with having children, and has a fertility doctor or clinic that did not screen her well. The problem in this situation is the lack of oversight, and the medical ethics issues of implanting multiple embryos. Higher order multiple births are what the medical profession strives to avoid, in order to maximize the odds for each child to thrive before, during, and after birth – while protecting the mom. Watch this case closely, though – we have to be careful to avoid stepping on the very real rights of couples to choose to have large families that they can and do both support and love.


B.J.   February 2nd, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Where are you people getting your information???????????

When the Gosselins first started the show both were working. Jon full time and Kate even worked on weekends for awhile. You see just glimpses of what goes on and you are going to make assessments on the kids state of mind. That is irresponsible.

Where do you get the idea that the mother of the octuplets does not have a husband. Everything I have seen says that her husband is a contractor and headed back to Iraq after the birth of the babies. I'm not sure of that fact but I have never seen one thing that says she isn't married.


diane g   February 2nd, 2009 5:45 pm ET

This entire subject is out of control!!!!! I love children, but these 8 were not God's plan; they were the crazy plan of a mentally unstable woman and a doctor who wanted the publicity. And don't get me started on Jon and Kate, as well as the Duggars. Reproduction rights do not , or should not ,include becoming a "litter" of children. The health risks to mother and children, not to mention the costs, are absurd!!!!! I just get so angry at people who do this, then expect a handout or a million dollar television deal. My husband and I both work and struggle every day. It is so tiring to hear of these repetitive stories.


Kimberly Brown   February 2nd, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Hi. I've watched Jon and Kate Plus Eight several times, not regularly as I have little babies of my own that keep me busy. I think they are a beautiful family and I applaud Jon and Kate for finding an opportunity that will assist them in raising their children financially. I do not believe they are exploiting their children. But anyway, I noticed while watching the show that I do not see the grandparents around. The church and the community has really stepped up, but I'm curious to know where Kate's family is. I know Jon's mom lives far away (I think, anyway). With two kids under 21 months, which I know doesn't compare to extreme multiples, I can't imagine life without the emotional support of my parents. Do they just choose not to be on the show?


Jenny   February 2nd, 2009 5:46 pm ET

On the show, Kate is always yelling and barking orders at the kids as well as constantly correcting Jon in a very disrespectful way. I've watched the show from the very beginning when they didn't have much money but Kate seemed so kind to her kids and husband... that's why I loved the show. Now that they're wealthy and don't have to work, have had complete makeovers, have a million dollar home and lots of expense-paid vacations, I'd think they would be even happier... but all I ever hear is Kate barking and seeming very unhappy...and it can't ALL be from the editing process by TLC (and for pity sake, we’re not jealous…something they attribute to anyone who criticizes them). Many folks I know say that the kids are adorable but they've stopped watching the show due to Kate's horribly disrespectful attitude towards her husband...they even call them Jon and Hate. Example: Waving your hand at your hubby and telling him to “Shush!” to get him to shut up. Even E Network's, The Soup, has picked up on how terrible Kate is to her husband.

TLC makes sure they constantly throw in some of the early, enjoyable episodes when things were a lot more pleasant. My guess is that way the new viewers can get hooked like the rest of us did early on before they can see the latest, awful ones with Kate being so mean to her husband and barking at the kids.

Question: Since you're very wealthy now, can you make it financially without going out on all the speaking engagements at churches where you take the huge love offerings? I would hope that's the case so you could stay home and actually calm down, work on your attitude and enjoy your family for a change.


Monica   February 2nd, 2009 5:46 pm ET

I find it amazing that peple like this make millions off of their children and we have thousands of children who go to bed hungry every night here in the US! This couple is asking for Love Offerings and live in a million dollar home both are unemployed! They just had a renewal ceremony in Hawaii and I saw Kate on "Say Yes To The Dress" her husband got hair implants and she got a tummy tuck and who knows what else! Corporate sponsorship why don't some of these corporations sponsor a shelter or a school! Glorifying these so called mom mills. I like to know who some of these sponsors are so I can start pressuring them to support THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT! "Have you seen that show, Lifestyles of the Self Indulged Jon and Kate and the spoiled 8?"


Sara Maytorena   February 2nd, 2009 5:48 pm ET

Hi Kate and Jon,

I was just reading some of the comments that people wrote about the show. It sickens me that people are writing about you exploiting your children when in reality, you have given millions of people hope and happiness with the show. I really admire you and Jon for everything you do for and with your children. Don't let any negative comments get to you because you should be proud of your family and the show. I hope the kids and Jon are doing well!


Andrea   February 2nd, 2009 5:49 pm ET

I don't know that much about the Gosselins, except to catch a glimpse of their show from time to time.

However, I am currently covered by Kaiser medical insurance, and I know that I've had various discussions with my gynecologist regarding fertility testing and preparing for getting pregnant, as I am 42. My doctor even told me that she usually discusses the whole process with her patients because she feels it's important, and she's just talking about the prep work involved! In other words, if I wanted to go through some sort of fertility treatment, I think she would discuss the whole process, along with a complete checklist of preparation. I can't imagine what the octuplet mother's doctors were thinking when they agreed to this! This woman should have undergone some sort of therapy; not fertility treatments.


Inet-Reporter   February 2nd, 2009 5:52 pm ET

In a single word for the kids "Adoption"
In a single word for the mom "Institution"


Drew   February 2nd, 2009 5:53 pm ET

I think Kate is a beast who treats her husband very poorly. The poor man is berated and belittled at every turn.


kathryn   February 2nd, 2009 5:53 pm ET

These people having multiple births are NUTS and SELFISH. This world isn't the place to financially nor emotionally support all those kids! I think it is cruel and sick to have so many children. How would you have raised all of these kids without a TV deal? I just don't think you are good parents.


Jared   February 2nd, 2009 5:54 pm ET

Please do not glorify or justify the troubling behavior and poor decision making exhibited by the mother of octuplets in California by having her as a PAID guest on your show. In my opinion, she is highly irresponsible and has exhibited a lack of basic common sense - she needs a therapist more than she needs million dollar endorsements and media attention to validate her behavior. She is a SINGLE mother with FOURTEEN children UNDER THE AGE OF 7, including a young child who is autistic. What was she thinking?! At this point, nothing she says can make me feel anything put pity for those poor children.


Ruth   February 2nd, 2009 5:54 pm ET

Actually, I am a multiple myself and from a large family too. We made do with what we had and our parents worked. I see no difference between the Gosselins and the octuplet mother. They have their own show, why shouldn't the octuplets? They got welfare and medicaid, why shouldn't she? They wanted 1 more baby, she wanted 1 more girl. They were unemployed, she's unemployed. She has 14 kids in a 3 bedroom house, they had 8 in a 3 bedroom. What exactly is the difference? They have made it all look so easy, where does all the money come from? How are their clothes so nice, how do they afford all the things/activities for the kids? They don't show the nitty gritty of the situation, beyond the 'stress' of the parents. I don't see how they can relate when everything is handed to them and they have tons of helpers 4.5 yrs later.


Kristin   February 2nd, 2009 5:55 pm ET

Kate,

My husband and I watch your show regularly (he has now gotten to the point where he can immediately point out a re-run!). We are so thrilled by your faith and love for each other. I know that people criticize you for your attitude sometimes, but I think I would be the same way with 8 children so close in age.

My question is...what do you do as a family to incorporate God in your home? Do you read the bible together regularly? What about prayer?

God Bless,
Kristin


Mike, Albany   February 2nd, 2009 5:55 pm ET

I think it's irresponsible and selfish for someone who already has 2 (let alone 6) children to use fertility drugs and bring 6 or 8 more babies into an already overcrowded world. There needs to be legislation limiting the number of children any family can have. Overpopulation strains our resources (water, food, sanitation, pollution,...) and reduces the quality of life for everyone when hospitals are overcrowded, doctors cannot be seen for weeks or months at a time, freeways are congested with cars,... People, let's be at least a little civic-minded here and not view our genes as so important that we need to reproduce them 14 times over to be satisfied.


Carol   February 2nd, 2009 5:55 pm ET

Larry,
this is all irresponsible on the part of the one mother having 8-more kids, while she has 6 at home already. I am a single mom with three sons, I do not recommend single-parenting. it is unfair to the kids, and all concerned. No matter what you do, there is little time for earning a living, and parenting while being without a partner. I would never choose it!
Colorado Mom


Seriously   February 2nd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

I have a tip for her- TIE THAT CRAP UP and STOP having kids!

Thanks,

My tax dollars


Jan   February 2nd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

We need to take a driver's education class, behind the wheel training before we can obtain a license and drive a car, yet no education/preparation is given to people before they have children. It's just somehow assumed that people know how to parent. Scary.

This California woman, Nadya Suleman, has PR people trying to find her a television show. I guess she wants to appear on Oprah. It's child abuse.


Jenny   February 2nd, 2009 5:59 pm ET

Why are Kate's parents, Jon's mother and Kate's brother Kevin & his wife Jodi, never on the show? And why is her best friend, Beth, no longer on the show. They will never give a real reason but viewers have heard the reasons:

Jodi used to babysit often, giving Jon and Kate some much needed rest and relief. We all heard that TLC offered her a salary since she was such a positive and important part of the show and wanted to ensure that she continued...but that made Kate furioius and she said something to the effect that, "Nobody but us will make money off our kids!" Exit Jodi and Kevin.

Also, what ever happened to Kate's best friend, Beth Carson...the one who wrote the book with Kate? Beth and her husband helped Jon and Kate out a lot! We heard TLC also offered them a salary and Kate refused to allow that as well. Exit Beth.


Ann   February 2nd, 2009 5:59 pm ET

I think Kate should stay home and be with her children instead of "milking" her so called fame. Better yet, why doesn't Kate learn to treat her husband like a man and not her 11th child. Kate's griping and complaining about her situation is so old and listening to her moan and groan about Jon is so old! Count your blessings Kate! I stopped watching your show because you are so controlling and unreasonable with Jon.
By the way, where are your parents and Jon's parents in all this? Are they also tired of hearing how bad you have it?
Making money off your kids like you do and having no value for the privacy that your kids will crave is selfish. Enjoy your tummy tuck, you'll need it when you're looking for another husband


Becky   February 2nd, 2009 6:01 pm ET

Kate,

We watch your show all the time. My youngest three can relate to your children. (They are 4,6,&8) You have a beautiful family.

I see a lot of jealousy and hostility in the previous blog enteries. But, I also see something that has bothered me too. I also have noticed Maddie's "anger issues" and Cara's "sadness". I hope their moods are addressed before they approach their "pre-teen" years.

You are a better person than most for being able to brush off such harsh critisism.

Good luck in the future. We will miss watching you when you feel it is time to end the show.

~Becky


Tracy   February 2nd, 2009 6:02 pm ET

Kate and Jon,

I love your show, but I do have to say the 'free' trips for media purposes are a little much. The tv show you do must produce a good income seeing as its TLC's #1 show. Why do you still feel the need to partake in this? I just feel that there are so many families in need that could really use a little vacation or hand out. Do you ever feel guilty like maybe you should offer it to another family in your area.
Tracy


Kim   February 2nd, 2009 6:02 pm ET

I see a lot of people on here that are very jealous of Kate.... Poor you!!


Carrue   February 2nd, 2009 6:03 pm ET

The octuplets should be adopted by families who can give them all the love and support they will need. That woman had no business having more children when she can't support the six she already has.


Elizabeth Malia   February 2nd, 2009 6:04 pm ET

For heaven's sake! Most of these comments have no compassion or sympathy for extreme situations, such as HOM. Perhaps the young mother in California has issues, but it is none of our business in the first place. And the Gosselins are doing the very best they can. Not everyone could take having cameras in their house, regardless of the situation. It doesn't matter what maybe should have happened in the past. The babies are here and now, and they deserve the best their parents can provide. If the population of a state doesn't want to provide services to families in need, they are neglecting something: the social contract. And they should consider, "If it happened to me, what would I do?" We all know that some babies are totally unexpected. I may not have been lucky enough to have my own, but I recognize my responsibility fot he greater good. Climb off your high, judgmental horse, people!


linda   February 2nd, 2009 6:05 pm ET

its sad how this family airs their story on tv,thoses kids look worn out,,how about doing a typical normal family story,,,i have a daughter who is 6 years old ,she is severly developmentally delayed,i bet she is way more work than the G family crew,,my day starts at 5 am if i'm lucky,some days much earlier,it doesnt end till way past midnight,,my daughter needs every thing right down to the smallest detail done for her,,she sits independently but i can't take my eyes off her as she will put anything into her mouth,she still wears diapers and heaven forbid if she soils it and i don't notice within minutes,,it will be smeared from one end of her bed to the others and from her toes up to her nose,all those multiple births look like a picnic,but the kids look wiped out and depressed,,but mommy looks happy with her tummytuck,,trips ect,,she is far from a stay at home mom,,she may be there the few hours the camera crew is there,but then its money spending time for her...


Luis   February 2nd, 2009 6:07 pm ET

I see a big difference between the Gosselins and the women in CA. The Gosselins have family support and they are too parents...and both are working and providing for the kids.
Who is going to provide for the 8 plus 6. The woman is a single mother......let's see...is she is home raising the kids...that means the Tax payers of California will be paying for her and her kids, and the health problems associated with multiple births. Purely a selfish act....she thought of herself only and not the quality of life an care of her kids....ALL 14 of them.


brad   February 2nd, 2009 6:08 pm ET

STOP HAVING KIDS! It is not fair to them to have so many siblings. Devote yourself to two or three for C. sake.


Theresa   February 2nd, 2009 6:09 pm ET

This obviously irresponsible mother of 14 now will depend on everyone else to raise her children. She was not in a good position before, she definitely is not now.


pam   February 2nd, 2009 6:10 pm ET

i think kate should stay home and be with her childern instead of miking her so called fame. count your blessing kate. i stopped watching your show because you aer so conrolloing and unreasonable with jon. making money off your kids like you do and having no value for the privacy that your kids will crave is selfish. enjoy your tummy tuck youll need it when youre looking for another husband.


Ryan   February 2nd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

What's with all these attacks on the Gosselins? They do a wonderful job of parenting their children!

I agree with the some of the criticism of the mother out in CA, but don't attack the Gosselins as being one and the same. They are totally different.


Toni   February 2nd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

Is everyone more upset because she had eight additional children or is it because she is married? I don't understand why people do not judge the Gosselins and the family with the 18 children (I don't recall their names, but they have a show as well). I keep thinking whether it is because she has no husband that ticks everyone off.

No one has said that Kate Gosselin should have selectively reduced her second pregnancy. In fact, she had seven embryos placed into her body, one of which did not survive. No one has told the overly mother of eighteen children stop. I can't even believe that people would recommend that people selectively reduce their pregnancies that's abortion!

Kate shouldn't even be the one to talk about how a baby "was meant to be conceived", because that borders to siding with the many people who think that IVF is wrong and is going against nature. Really, her take was foolish and the nation needs to just focus on things pertaining to our own lives instead of judging others or benefiting from this event.

The eight multiples are here now and all that matters now is that they make it. I wonder how they will feel years from now knowing that many people thought that they should have never been born.


Jenn   February 2nd, 2009 6:11 pm ET

I have watched the Gosslin's for a quite some time now and the one thing I know to be true is that if the public did not tune in, this show and the popularity would not continue. They open up their home and let us into their lives and we watch. They are extremely popular and sponsers want to be associated with this family. How can you fault them for this? I don't agree with the taxpayer's paying for anyone's choice, but these items (with the exception of the nurse) are being offered to them. Who amongst us would turn down a free trip to Hawaii or Disney Land? Not me! I think Jon is great. How many fathers enjoy there children like he does? He is a great balance for Kate. I will continue to watch, not because of the freebies, fits, or fights, but because the show reminds me that all things are possible. Regardless of what you think of the show.........how many of us are able to handle raising 8 kids? The main difference with this family and the mother of 14 is the support system. If the mother of these 14 children can pay her bills and support these children, then who am I to judge? The key word in that phrase is "the mother" not the taxpayers. Good luck Kate & Jon

P.S. You need to remember though that when you look out the window of your new home and say "all mine" it comes across greedy. The fans of this show know that this house and land are "all yours", but the fans who are watching, reading and buying afford you the luxury of these items. We don't need to be reminded of this fact, we are smart enough to understand this on our own.


Kathy   February 2nd, 2009 6:12 pm ET

Kate said:

2. With multiples, help is not an option, it’s mandatory for survival. Many of these people we had never met before!!!

If you have to let strangers parent your kids, you should realize that this is not a situation that is appropriate.
It would be extremely easy for a child in this home to be abused.


Alicia   February 2nd, 2009 6:14 pm ET

Your kids will learn how to love others by watching how their parents love and treat each other. Knowing this, do you regret slapping your husband a lot and degrading him, talking down to him and not treating him as an equal?


LAT   February 2nd, 2009 6:14 pm ET

Why are people being rewarded for having artificial, multiple births?! That is just crazy! If someone wants to have children, especially a litter of them, great, then that person should be solely responsible for supporting them, and not depend on handouts, prizes, gifts, TV shows, etc for support. Is this a contest to see who can have the most kids (the Duggars) or now the most kids in one shot?

Seriously now, this unmarried mother of six just had eight more kids. Sad. Oh wait, why not create a TV show for her and build her a new house, and supply her children with everything they need until age 18, except two parents. The poor kids are going to end up neglected or exploited. The mother is setting such a poor example. I truly hope she gets (much needed) mental health evaluation and treatment.


Ashlie   February 2nd, 2009 6:15 pm ET

There seem to be a lot of jealous women out there... More power to Jon and Kate for raising 8 kids and being able to spend as much time with them as they do. They appear to be happy, well-adjusted and well-behaved kids. By televising a smallpart of their daily lives they can provide for their family and even afford the extras. The kids sure don't seem any worse for the wear. It is also admirable that they "give back" and involve the kids in their efforts. Considering the Gosslin kids were conceived through fertility drugs and not In Vitro I think it is safe to say that Jon and Kate did not purposefully have a large family just to get their own reality show.

Coming from a full time working mom of a 2 year old, I say good for you. Everybody has to make a living somehow.


Connecticut Girl   February 2nd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

I have some advise for this mom of fourteen. SHUT DOWN THE BABY FACTORY!!!


mom of two   February 2nd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Taking care of the new octuplets and their brothers and sisters should not be an issue. There are AT A MINIMUM 14 churches in the U.S. that preach anti-abortion that could each sponsor 1 child from now through college.
Mission accomplished.


Liz in Seattle   February 2nd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Wow you guys. I guess you are proving Kate's point about how having multiples opens you up to judgement and criticism from strangers. If you are disgsted that she has a reality show, don't watch it. I for one am glad that the Gosselins found a way to support eight kids without driving themselves to an early grave. Anyway some of you people who are so critical of her seem to know her childrens' names and personalities– could it be that you are hooked on this show you claim to be so offended by?

Get over yourselves, people, and leave this poor woman alone.


S Callahan NYS   February 2nd, 2009 6:18 pm ET

This certainnly gives real meaning to 'it takes a village to raise a child'.

You both deserve kudos for the ability to perservere through this parenting task....and high fives that you make a 'conscious' choice to focus on the positives!

My grandmother had 13 children, which was not uncommon in her day. I remember as a little child they had both chickens and rabbits in the rear of the house....both for a purpose chicken for food and rabbits for income. Of course, you didn't have the 'greed' of wanting all the extra clothes as you do nowdays..they were pratical, and hand me downs were as treasured as a new outfit.

Do this discourage you from 'ever' wanting another child?


NJ   February 2nd, 2009 6:19 pm ET

Hey Rod Traverse-

Thanks for the rant about Canadian Indians not getting their fair share. It would have made a lot more sense if the article above was not about octuplets. Considering we have reservations in the USA that have the exact same issues, sit tight on buying a plane ticket just yet. I am sure Larry wants to solve all reservation problems here in the USA before taking on the problems you are having up there in Canada. But, once he does I am sure you will be the first person he contacts to have on his show!!! Please dont post anything else, my head still hurts from reading your last one...

Navajo Joe


Fenris   February 2nd, 2009 6:20 pm ET

There is an easy solution for people like the woman in SoCal – sterilization. It may not be PC, but having so many kids is a unethical and a disservice and burden on society. I already feel bad for her 14 kids because they are going to live a sub-par life while lliving off the tax dollars of rationale Americans. The mother must be incredibly disilusioned if she thinks she is going to get millions of dollars from talk show hosts. Oh wait, this is America, so this genius probably will end up a millionaire.

Also, who cares if she only wanted one embryo implant, but got 4 instead? With 6 kids, she shouldn't have recieved any number of implants. The Dr. and mother should be charged with abuse.


Michelle   February 2nd, 2009 6:20 pm ET

This has to be the funniest article ever. Neither of these parents are qualified to give advice to anyone. Jon and Kate act like they can barely stand one another, and Kate is constantly impatient and critical of her children and most especially, her husband. The fact that they chose to have so many children seems to be lost on Kate. She's a bitter, self-centered woman, and like to many other reality "stars", doesn't deserve her fame. And her kids definitely don't deserve to be raised in the fishbowl of public attention. Nice parenting.


Charlotte   February 2nd, 2009 6:20 pm ET

Boy, all the judgements and criticisms and speculations. Know what? I think they're right on target, but unfortunately there are now fourteen young lives in the balance and I just hope that someone with a real sense of responsibility (maybe the mother but perhaps not) sees to it that these children get everything they need – from medical and food and love and attention to education so they will do something less tawdry with their own options when they grow up. The reasons and the implantation and the birth are all history now and cannot be changed. Let's hope something constructive is possible for these kids. If the mother is any kind of mother at all, she will not reap any monetary benefits herself but will consider it adequate to see her children growing, healthy and as happy as possible given the appalling circumstances.


Jan D.   February 2nd, 2009 6:21 pm ET

I find this whole discussion nauseating. Why any doctor would implant eight embryos in the uterus of a single mother of six, defies comprehension. The mother is clearly mentally incompetent and/or seeking major endorsement to help fund her freak show. What is the doctor's excuse?


Shauna   February 2nd, 2009 6:21 pm ET

So many people so full of hate. I should know not to read comment sections – the viciousness, fear and anger always take my breath away. How deeply disappointing. New day in America indeed.


Zoe   February 2nd, 2009 6:22 pm ET

My advice is give them up for adoption.


Avis Miller   February 2nd, 2009 6:25 pm ET

I got a parenting tip. First and foremost, get your children a father. There is a reason why it takes two to have a child. You don't have to look too far to see the results of having children without a father. Crime and unresponsible behavior. Those children that had no father or father figure are in a criminal justice system today. They are killing each other and innocent citizens.


lisa   February 2nd, 2009 6:25 pm ET

i have watched jon and kate from the beginning. kate does talk down to jon. what worries me most tho is mady. she is so spoiled and bratty. poor cara seems to be trying so hard to be the "good" child and is mostly ignored because of maddys rude and infantile behavior. when she acts up she get alone time in moms room with the t.v. to herself? (birthday episode)big punishment folks. she will have problems making friends, keeping a relationship, all her life. parents are not helping her to become a kind loving person at all. mady figured out that the squeaky wheel gets the grease and she manipulates her parents to the detriment of all the other family members-mostly cara. my heart aches for those twins. both are getting shortchanged-cara each day and mady for her future. mom favors mady because they are so alike.
when jon tries to discipline mady mom yells at him because mady needs "special treatment" cuz of her attitude problem. kate is helping to build madys problems, not fix them. cara should get more attention for trying so hard. she'll be the one to pay for mady attitude. mady may be the boss at home but she'll be in for a rude awakening in the real world and she won't be able to handle it. help her. and stop pushing cara aside. please. by the way, i am a child care professional-i've seen this happen -it's not just my opinion, it's a fact.


hannah   February 2nd, 2009 6:25 pm ET

Larry, I would like for you to ask Kate this question...
How can you teach your children to love and respect their parents , even unto old age, when you have cut your own parents from their lives. Children learn from and mimic what their parents do. Someday , you will pay the price yourself from this allienation.
As an audience member, and a grandmother, I would love to see your children interacting with, getting excited to see and visit their grandparents. It would add a whole new dimension and a normal dimension to your tv drama.


Lisa   February 2nd, 2009 6:28 pm ET

Someone PLEASE spay that mother of octuplets! She already had 6 kids under the age of 7 years old. Living in a 3 bedroom house with grandparents but no husband. HELLOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Is anyone surprised that she's DEMANDING $2 Million for an interview? Pretty blatant abuse of the system. I'm so damned tired of paying taxes to feed these people who have no responsibilities. And the doctor who put the invetro eggs into her, needs to pay for the new 8 babies that he "produced"..... That woman needs to be sterilized before she has any more rugrats that I have to support.


Chris Miller   February 2nd, 2009 6:30 pm ET

Cut Jon and Kate some slack here. They were obviously taken completely by surprise when they found they were having 6 more children. Clearly these are decent intelligent people. Rather than spend their lives terrified about how they would make the bills, they had the wisdom to go forward with the reality show. As a result the children have a much higher standard of living. Most importantly this family can now afford to employ helpers, send the kids to college, and actually take this huge family on vacation from time to time. Who wouldn't let a film crew into their home if it meant their kids would go to college? More power to them.


morgamic   February 2nd, 2009 6:31 pm ET

Step 1: don't have 8 kids if you already have 6.


Elisha   February 2nd, 2009 6:32 pm ET

I don't think a single one of you can judge Jon & Kate unless you have been in their shoes. And how dare any of you say that she shouldn't have had her children! That was their choice and it was God's will and they are loving their children and providing them a home and a family. So what if they're real? Every family has it's issues and I can guarantee that each one of you didn't come from a perfect home and probably wouldn't want your family issues splashed all over national TV. Kudos to Jon & Kate who can overcome public criticism and provide REAL reality TV. Not to mention, I think they do a great job at raising their kids. Just because you see it on your TV does not mean that you see everything.


Barb   February 2nd, 2009 6:37 pm ET

I have the highest respect for Kate and Jon. The fact that they have opened their lives for viewing is not something everyone has the ability to handle. If they have "earned" enough to be able to purchase a larger house, GOOD FOR THEM. Where is the outcry when actors or athletes are making millions of dollars for the making of one movie or one season? How many show any kind of family values? How many "bother" to even get married before having children or ever? And if they do get married, how long does it last?

How many parents take the time to spend quality time with each of their children as the Gosselins do? Keep up the fantastic job with your wonderful family, Kate and Jon! I'd be honored to have you as a friend or neighbor!


Jeff W.   February 2nd, 2009 6:38 pm ET

Here' a tip, stop having babies. This is just incredibly irresponsible. I must assume mental illness. These poor kids will remain just that, poor. They will never go to college and they will struggle with an impoverished upbringing. All of these children should be placed in foster care and their mom should undergo a psych eval.


Aaron   February 2nd, 2009 6:40 pm ET

Kate shouldn't have lied about the fertility and duped her husband into multiples. She's a horrible mother, one of the last people that should be offering advice. The best thing that could happen for those kids is for him to leave and get custody.


lis   February 2nd, 2009 6:40 pm ET

Invitro is unnatural and having that many children is disgusting. Especially considering all of the children who are orphans, foster, and in great need. Invitro is selfish. And it's ridiculous how these people garner attention and help from our media. These resources should be directed towards the poor children who barely have a chance.


James in Tx   February 2nd, 2009 6:41 pm ET

Will the interview address the (lack of) ethics of the fertility specialists who helped a mother of six get pregnant with eight more? Did the mother undergo psychological testing to see if she was mentally fit to take on eight additional children? Or did the invitro-fertilization physician just do whatever he or she was paid to do no questions asked?


Elizabeth   February 2nd, 2009 6:41 pm ET

Kate,
Do you think that the mother of octuplets should get her own reality show? Certainly if this was your saving grace shouldn't it be hers? Secondly, since you and Jon do not work how do you afford health care for eight children and two adults?


Angela   February 2nd, 2009 6:41 pm ET

Kate,

Will you stop "Crying Poor" now that you have your mansion?
How is that condo in Utah?
Will you now stop taking "love offerings" from people who believe your lies?
Do you have any friends left?
Do you have funds set aside for the children since they have been working all their lives or are you continuing to use their pay to fund your lavish lifestyle?
How do you and Jon sleep at night...of is it a restful sleep since you've banished your children from your room upon thr


Barb   February 2nd, 2009 6:42 pm ET

Larry,

I hope you are at your best tonight and can showcase the crux of the problem that includes reality TV shows of families (particularly families of multiples). Kate Gosselin is as much a part of this problem (and quite possibly the Gosselins along with TLC are creators of the latest twist of the problem) as is the octuplet mom.

Kate Gosselin didn't get to where she is by being dumb. I will give her that. In my opinion, she is very cunning (as in possessing a skill in deception) to have charted the path she has taken. It is so sad that corporations, the public, and the media are lapping and buying up the story she tells. The story that some people, who look behind what she preaches, can see is not an admirable one. She is not an expert on anything. She merely has captivated an audience that doesn't see the harm she is doing to her children (by selling their privacy) and the harm she is causing to society (by showing people that it is possible to use your children to attain fame and fortune).

So, please don't allow Kate to differentiate herself from the octuplet mom. Yes, the octuplet situation appears to be very strange, but the bigger issue is why did she want to bring so many kids into the world that she may not be able to provide for? Like I stated above, Jon and Kate Gosselin, TLC, and Figure 8 need to speak to what responsibility they bear in this situation as well as any that transpire in the future.


patti   February 2nd, 2009 6:42 pm ET

Wow, I didn't expect such a large amount of negative feedback re: the Gossselins. Personally, I think that people who have large families are guaranteeing that there will be people to support them in their old age. When people who have no children or only one child get older, they will need workers out there paying taxes to support the older generation both financially and as Doctors, Nurses, support workers, etc. Don't be so narrow minded and arrogant. I don't agree with the mother of six using artificial means to have an additional 8 children when she has no one to help her save her already stretched thin parents... but things are going to be hard enough for those children without people turning the world against them. The irresponsible Doctors did not HAVE to inseminate her. If NO ONE had agreed to do it she would not have had an additional 8 mouths to feed. God help them all. Maybe those same Doctors should be asked to support this family.


Angela   February 2nd, 2009 6:43 pm ET

sorry, that was upon threats of severe punishment.
You are a disgrace Kate Gosselin and should not be giving anyone advice...


Jeanette   February 2nd, 2009 6:43 pm ET

I am appauled at some of the comments here suggesting that Jon and Kate shouldn't have used fertility drugs to have more children with the possibility of multiples. I applaud them for being loving parents and wanting to have and raise more loving children. So many people out there are irresponsible and have children who they A) Don't want at all B) Abort the pregnancy c) The babies end up in a garbage bag/bin OR D) A lovely little law passed in the USA (I'm Canadian) that ALLOWS a parent to drop off their underage child/children at "drop off points" and leave them without any questions. THAT my friends, is irresponsible. Jon and Kate, keep up the great parenting and enjoy every minute of it!!

Ontario, Canada


Ed   February 2nd, 2009 6:43 pm ET

Sell them on eBay...


Logic   February 2nd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

All of these morons who think having multiples after undergoing IVF are missing the point. GOD did not intend for you to have kids so it is science and not a miracle that causes them to have litters like dogs (in which many cities have passed laws recently requiring that all pets be fixed due to the overpopulation problem.)

GOD intended for you to ADOPT a child who already is born and needs parents when you cannot get pregnant the old fashioned way. If you want a kid so badly, give one already in the world a home and not be so selfish needing it to be your biological kid. That also can ensure that you have the boy or girl you were supposedly "trying for" when you had 6, 7 or 8 more.

As a resident of CA, if I find out that one red cent of my overly taxed dollars goes to this psycho and her 14 kids, I will raise holy hell. If she wants so many kids, she should have to bear the burden of paying for all of them and since one is autistic it looks like I am on the line for that one already!

Who paid for these 7 IVF treatments for this woman? It costs $20-$30k per treatment so unless she has a rich uncle somewhere, she is obviously part of a clinical trial and these doctors should be investigated. they should all have their licenses revoked.


Denise   February 2nd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

Kate, you think you have advice to give other HOM families and yet you ignored the most famous Dionne quints when they said "Multiple births should not be confused with entertainment, nor should they be an opportunity to sell products." Why? Your children look miserable, don't you think it's time to stop selling them?


Ashley   February 2nd, 2009 6:45 pm ET

You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Kate and Jon worked like dogs to provide for those children (shown in the first several episodes) and when TLC came calling they answered. and they have rules and guidelines that the show must follow or they will not do it ( for example the cameras are not allowed in Mady and Cara's room. They even refer to it as the "family job". and they only film 3 days per week. Jon still works on the other days and yes maybe they do get things for free but so do most other tv stars and we don't bash them into the floor. SHAME SHAME SHAME on all of you. This is a REAL famliy you are talking about who took something that was willingly offered to them and made something good out of it. They are obviously concerned parents who love thier children very much.

As for the lady in CA I too have heard she has no husband and question her mental stability as well as the dr who implanted her. It would seem to me that 14 children under age 7 would be an impossible task and I certainly do not thing she should be able to qualify for any state assistance because she chose to have that many children.

All children are a gift from God, but at some point, God is overruled by the decisions of man. That is why he gave us free will.


Nada   February 2nd, 2009 6:46 pm ET

think people are annoyed with the Gosselins because they’re jealous. The Gosselins have 8 beautiful children and their wonderful parents. So what if they are on TV and getting freebies? Why not? Why not earn a living by showing off your beautiful family… I think Jon and Kate earned that house fair and square. Along with everything else they have. So everyone needs to back off.

I think you’re brilliant Jon and Kate! Keep raising your beautiful children and keep getting freebies and making a living. It’s an honest living. So why not??!!


Lilarose   February 2nd, 2009 6:46 pm ET

And they took birth control out of the stimulus package.

Guess what! Tax law says these big families pay NO taxes since they get deductions for each pup....er, human child.

So YOU and I pay for their share of schools, road usage, public utilities, public transportation, anything with "public" in it.

NOT COUNTING what we have to pay for medical care for the sick kittens....er, children.

And these idiots keep breeding and breeding. I sold my home and the family had six kids, another on the way, had been living in a bus, and the house was 1008 sq feet plus a garage, which turned into a bedroom for several of these mice....er, children.

To make it all better, their church came out to "dedicate" the house. I had dedicated it for nine years. It was OK the last time I saw it.


GFY   February 2nd, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Some rude people in this world... and many like to comment on "crazy ladies" who have 8 kids. Wow. I guess these people would be the first to line-up at the abortion clinic, smile on face, ready to rid themselves of the "craziness" that having multiples brings! Well, at the very least, those who look at any family with an "abnormal" amount of kids with a negative eye probably would do the world justice by not reproducing.


Louise   February 2nd, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Kate and Jon are greedy immature parents who are making loads of money off of the back of their innocent helpless children. The children will be the ones to pay for giving up their childhood privacy. History tells us from other children who have done the same they are in for a rough road ahead. God help them.


peter galante   February 2nd, 2009 6:48 pm ET

tips? how 'bout get your tubes tied, freak!


Kate in Portland   February 2nd, 2009 6:49 pm ET

I really wish LKL was not having Kate Gosselin on his show. The situation is California is dreadful and does not need anymore publicity. The California mom should be seeking help for a serious mental health problem. The only similarity I see between the two moms are the attempts to freeload off their children. The current story is the octuplet mom has agents trying to get her million dollar deals for her story. Well, I don't want to hear it! I want to hear it when she is mentally stable and the children are allowed to be adopted by people who can properly raise them, without sponsorship deals, TV shows or depending on taxpayers' money.

People magazine is also now reporting that the woman's mother is going to stop helping her daughter raise the 14 kids. I guess I don't blame her, but how can child services not step in and do something for the sake of these extremely young and innocent children?

I am so frustrated that this was even allowed to happen. She risked so much, and the new babies aren't out of the woods heathwise yet. In my book this is just another form of child abuse.


Susan   February 2nd, 2009 6:49 pm ET

Parenting Tip #1: Ask her not to have any more


Lora   February 2nd, 2009 6:49 pm ET

There need to be laws and regulations controlling the number of embryos that can be implanted at one time, and the use of fertility drugs. Most of these parents are overwhelmed financially and emotionally, and there is such a high incidence of lifelong disabilities in the babies.

Brangelina's twins occurred naturally, and they have the money to support their kids.


nc resident   February 2nd, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Questions to ask:

1.) Real reason family members are absent we have heard more than one story?
2.) Speaking fees charges and payment per episode?
3.) Where is Beth her co-author and BFF, and Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin?
4.) When did Jon stop working for the state?
5.) How much help do they have raising these children?

Going out on a limb here Larry bet these do not get an answer.


JKL   February 2nd, 2009 6:52 pm ET

The CA mother probably craves attention and thought that people would come running to help her. Instead, all I hear is of blacklash from the general public and her mother is not helping the situation by calling her daughter obssesed with having kids. And besides, I have not heard of any offers from Pampers, Gerber, Ford Trucks, etc... yet, have you...........................? I really feel sorry for these kids.


Pat   February 2nd, 2009 6:53 pm ET

I honestly hope this will not be yet another fluff piece interview of Kate Gosselin. When is someone going to ask these parents some tough questions about how they can justify exploiting their children's innocence (who films their kids using the bathroom for millions to see). The participants in this show aren't adults making the choice to be in a reality program; they are children who have no voice of their own, and who by all accounts work many hours beyond the restrictions for child actors, so their parents can live like celebrities. Kate Gosselin is a savy business woman and an excellent source of information on how to make a buck off your kids, and that's about it. I beleive they have even referred to their kids as "marketable". The fact that this so called reality show is inspiring other people to try for high order multiple births in the quest for fame and fortune says it all.


GFY   February 2nd, 2009 6:53 pm ET

...and one more thing... it has been said that nearly 70% of all black babies are born out of wedlock.... and yet, no CNN news story? No question posted for incredibly rude bloggers to answer too? Why not!?!?!?! At least the Gosselins are married. They took advantage of their situation in order to provide for their family. To think that a financial advantage is the only reason they did it only proves how ignorant the person thinking it really is – that, and they don't know the joy of being a parent.

Shameful you people are who post such horrible comments about this family!!!!


Dawn   February 2nd, 2009 6:55 pm ET

"As a mother of multiples, I am shocked at the attitudes of the commenters. Why should someone be sterlized just because they already have children? Do you really think she purposely wanted octuplets to cash out? Perhaps she wants to have a large family. You don’t know anything about her so shut up! I don’t here you passing judgement on celebrities like Brangelina and their 6 kids."

Christy,

You are a very ignorant woman, first of all it is obvious that this woman in CA is not right in the head. Second, Kate and her family are glamorizing this situation and are planting ideas into already sick minds. I have no idea why you even brought up Brangelina, as it is irrelevant. Those two parents are millionaires, they have adopted half their family, and they did not use a bunch of fertility drugs to have multiple children, when nature obviously didn't want that to happen.

Makes me fear for your "multiples" if their mother doesn't even have common sense.


Jackie   February 2nd, 2009 6:56 pm ET

I would like to know why Kate said the following in regards to her children in an article by Dimitri Vassilaros Tribune-Review May 15th 2005:
" But if Kate had had a crystal ball, would she have taken the fertility drugs?"

"If I could have looked into the future, I would not have done it," she admitted.
Kate also said "we took a gamble and lost" referring to the conception of her sextuplets...LOST? That's a nice thing to say about your Ble$$ing$.
Larry King...please shine a spotlight on this exploitation of children. Please reveal the truth so that no more women take a "gamble" to have multiples and feel in the end that they "lost" and try to get themselves a TV show to get rich and famous at the expense of their children's childhood.


sheryls the one   February 2nd, 2009 6:56 pm ET

I agree with Barb that only those who can afford to have 14 children should have 14 children. I am a fertility drop out who only wanted to have one child . I had to drop out because of the cost of healthcare for surrogates in california and the US . I can no longer afford it to meet the increased costs because there are so may multiple births from surrogates in the past 3-4 years. There are so many abuses which you do not hear about because there are smaller offenses but those still hold a very heavy cost when there are multiple births involved. insurance companies are not going to insure anymore so the rest of us have to pay cash, as well as bear the cost for those having triplets and quadruplets without insurance. Fertility centers do not require that you have insurance when they transfer embryos it's not thier problem. Fertility is not coverd by most plans so fertility centers get their cash and they don't have to worry about how the embryos get born. If we required responsibility for those seeking fertility as we do with uninsured drivers it would not cost all of us so much in the end.


Lola   February 2nd, 2009 6:57 pm ET

The G's family and MD should be just as critized at the one in S. CA. Implanting 6 embryos when they already had 2 kids isn't "as bad" as implanting 8 when there was already 6. From what has been stated there are limits on the number that should be implanted. If it weren't for reality TV the G's would be financially hurting.


Danielle B. from philly   February 2nd, 2009 6:59 pm ET

Hi Kate,

I LOVE your show. Your kids are soo cute! I like all of them but think the boys are just too precious. My question is: How is Mady dealing with the little kids nowadays? I have noticed that she has had some behavior problems in the past are these issues getting better or being addressed?

Also-what happened to Beth? I have not seen her on in a few episodes.


Debi Wagner   February 2nd, 2009 7:01 pm ET

I have a 27 year old son who supports himself in Orlando, FL and can't find health insurance that covers any costs associated with his asthma. He therefore has to pay almost $200/month for inhalers and any other treatments at the doctors office related to his asthma. It makes me sick that people like this have these litters of kids and we have to pay high health insurance costs for the care associated with these litters born premature and all of the illnesses they will experience the rest of their life. Insurance companies should deny coverage to people who give birth to these litters of babies and make the families pay all the medical expenses. I have a feeling people would think twice before they get IVF done with 8 embryos. Think of the price of the hospital coverage related to care of these 8 babies. I believe this family and doctor responsible for the birth should be footing the bill and not the insurance company and certainly not donations. I wouldn't donate a dirty diaper to this stupid family.


Ann   February 2nd, 2009 7:03 pm ET

"Parenting multiples is totally different than parenting a singleton."

This is 100% true!!! Parents of singletons will constantly judge what and why you do what you do with multiples. Some of the comments have been anywhere from trying to be helpful to being down right mean and judgmental!

I have had signleton births and multiples (triplets) and EVERYONE wants to judge why you do the things you do. Have enough confidence in yourself that you know what is best for your children, you, and your situation. Don't worry about what others think.


Kelly Millichamp   February 2nd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

Anyone who compares the Gosselins to this mentally unstable mother of 14 children is insane. I don't think Jon and Kate are "exploiting" their children. As a happily married couple with jobs they had every right to try to get pregnant. Anyone who watches the show can see how gentle and loving they are to their children. And yes, they have profited from the show but if they did not take advantage of the opportunities they have been given they would not be able to provide for their childrens future education and the families finacial stability. I absolutely love the show but I do agree with the people who have said that Cara looks depressed and that Maddie is very out of control. Maddie needs discipline and Kate said something about just loving her thru her behavior problems but that doesn't seem to be working. Cara is the sweetest girl in the world though.


Teri   February 2nd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

It is very possible that she had less than 8 embryos implanted, all "took," and that some split into twins or even triplets. But still, even 4 or 5 implanted at once is too many. Has anybody said WHERE she had this done? I've read in areas that she was not a US citizen. If that's the case, she probably did not have them implanted here. That could very well just be rumor, though, as has a lot of what has been in the news and posted on message boards. The story seems to change everytime I read it.


fxfanatic   February 2nd, 2009 7:07 pm ET

Kate and Jon have pulled a scam on the American people. They've been accepting "love offerings" at churches attended by people who don't know that they just moved into a million dollar forever home.
They are shameless con artists and pretending they are any different then the mother who just had 8 is ignorant.


Heather- iluvobx   February 2nd, 2009 7:07 pm ET

3. nver be the same. It will be difficult and beyond manageable at times. Embracing the myriad of changes is very difficult but very necessary. I choose to see the blessings, not the inconveniences that multiples bring. The many happy and smiling faces when I come into the room keep me going."

Who is she trying to kid with this? She is always yelling, trash talking her own children and is always complaining about the inconveniences she has to indur because of her multiple be$$ing$. For some reason she has become a "media darling" when she is not. Just watch her show. She has no idea what is means to be a mother, she only sees her tups as major moneymakers to better her life. Her children need privacy, they are begging for it. Then circus needs to end and Larry King should ask her all the hard questions and not all the "fluff" been asked before questions. Kate is only a star in her mind.


whitneyissad   February 2nd, 2009 7:08 pm ET

Kate-
Why do you always refer to your pregnancy and the birth of your kids "devastaing", "doable", "able to be gotten through" etc. Never "a blessing" or even "fun". I have not in any interview heard you state one thing you enjoy about your healthy, large family. For shame.


t kahikinu   February 2nd, 2009 7:10 pm ET

There is no comparison between this family and the irresponsible individual with 8 implanted embryos. You are glorifying this clearly unstable woman with media attention and it is wrong. I pity the 14 children of this S Cal woman and I will not support ANY media effort that contributes to her noteriety. Nor will I support ANY sponsors of media attention to this disturbed person. She needs help but not this kind of help.


Sarah   February 2nd, 2009 7:12 pm ET

Why do people think Larry or Kate are going to actually read these comments? This is simply a public forum; a place to comment on the above news story. Just thought I'd say it.


Jayne Marlie   February 2nd, 2009 7:12 pm ET

Stop Roasting Jon and Kate !!! UR pissin me off!... u try to raise sextuplets!


Karen A. Owens   February 2nd, 2009 7:12 pm ET

How old are Kates twins & the six todlers? I love watching the show on TLC but we no longer have cable an it be watch on internet?


mitch   February 2nd, 2009 7:14 pm ET

hey Rod

Canada is great, get drunk more often and life will be great


Dennis Mulligan   February 2nd, 2009 7:15 pm ET

How did the SoCal woman afford the fertility treatment?


Tammy   February 2nd, 2009 7:15 pm ET

All the parents see is the almighty dollar. It's truly sick. As for Jon and Kate + 8 just do a google search to find out why they moved away from Aunt Jodi (Kate's sister-in-law). I don't watch the show anymore and wish TLC would stop paying these families. It seems like everyone gets so money hungry they forget about anything that should matter including the children. Don't stand with your hand out receiving free nannies, free cooks, free housekeepers, free childcare, free medical care, free vacations, etc and then cry wolf because your privacy has been invaded. You put yourselves and your children on public display. If people would stop viewing the baby mill shows it would put an end to them.


carrie   February 2nd, 2009 7:16 pm ET

I think what the lady from california did is appalling!! How did she pay for such a treatment? I thought that this kind of procedure is quite costly! CRAZY. And what about the Duggarts? They may not have multiples, but just the shear size of that family is sick!! And you think the Gosselins are milking the system...what about the Duggarts?? Sick puppies for sure!!!!


Paul (staunch moderate)   February 2nd, 2009 7:17 pm ET

If you hold a FIRM stance against abortion you should also hold a FIRM stance against fertility treatments. Especially if your reasoning is religious in nature.

How can one claim people "play God" with abortion, yet say it is ok to "play God" with fertility treatments?

High Multiple Pregancies have become too common. The AMA needs to set up some very strict guidelines for fertility treatments and embryo implantation.


Albie   February 2nd, 2009 7:17 pm ET

Please do not help to encourage the exploitation of the Gosselin children. These children do not deserve to work for their childhood to facilitate their parents' monetary gain. Kate and Jon Gosselin are abusing the generosity of the hard working Christian families who donate money to them. This couple does not work except in marketing their children. What kind of parents would allow permanent set lights installed in their own home for so many years simply to procure a million dollar mansion, free vacations, cosmetic procedures, and guest appearances on shows?


Cathy   February 2nd, 2009 7:19 pm ET

Science has gone too far and in today's world it is highly impossible for anyone to be financially and mentally able to take care of multiple births of this magnitude. Sure parents may be proud but the reality of it all is that it's "overwhelming" even for me and I only had twins 24 years ago but I made it. In the end...it is what it is and us parents do what we can.


carol   February 2nd, 2009 7:20 pm ET

Ask-If you have the courage, so far never has she even been asked by an interviewer–

Kate,why haven't you given Beth Carson the credit she deserves for the book? Even though her name is on the cover–

Beth when interviewed & asked this question responded-
"they lived it, I wrote it"

This is one of the questions Kate will not answer ,if asked she will leave-

Kate, why did you leave the Barnes & Nobles book signing in a Houston suburb? What was the question that was asked of you?


Barrie Kaye   February 2nd, 2009 7:21 pm ET

Please do not compare John and Kate plus Eight to this new situation. Kate is amazing. John is amazing...along with their children.

They are married, only had 2 children. They both had jobs not living in an apartment with 6 children, under 7, as a single parent.

They are wonderful and Kate is inspiring.


Teresa   February 2nd, 2009 7:21 pm ET

While I understand the desire to have children, and the frustration couples experience in being unable to become pregnant, I think it's very selfish to overstimulate the ovaries or implant so many embryos when it's obvious very few people can support so many children. Kate Gosselin feels everyone should pay for her and her children.. and I have to wonder how long she will be able to hang onto her million dollar home, as once the children are all in school fulltime there will be little basis for the show (Jon might have to actually get a job again, too). Taxpayers will certainly be picking up the tab for the 14 children in CA.


Luna   February 2nd, 2009 7:22 pm ET

I am so sick of reality shows like J&K+8 and the Duggars, that make excessively large families look like the norm. They are not. I doubt seriously the Gosselins would be going on dream vacations, getting tummy tucks, moving into huges homes, etc., without the assistance of TLC and its sponsors. Jon Gosselin isn't even employed! Please! Someone tell me in explicit detail how he can afford to take a family of 10 on vacation, because I would love to go to Wyoming or Montana for a week. I am employed full time, without any dependents and I can't remember the last time I went anywhere on a vacation.

This woman needs a reality check.


dupedatfirst   February 2nd, 2009 7:23 pm ET

Kate and Jon are the epitomy of ghetto-fabulous. Beg what you need, buy what you want. They have no income other than the show. Neither works a job. They didn't write the book that's out, their former friend did. Glad Kate's home with the kids instead of being a nurse. That would take a lot more time away from them than jetting around making appearances, doing interviews and endorsements. Where's their family and friends? She talks about needing support with a big family, but the TLC crew and craft services may not be the best choice for the kids.


Saw the Gosselins   February 2nd, 2009 7:24 pm ET

My husband and I were in the Detroit airport waiting for a connection fight to Harrisburg when we saw Kate and Jon Gossselin (without the children) waiting for the same flight. Both of them were standing apart in the waiting area, talking constantly on their cell phones. As soon as they found out our flight was cancelled due to mechanical issue, they immediately knew what to do and went their own way, perhaps to get on a different route with a different airline. While me and my husband and other passengers had to wait for arrangement to stay at a nearby hotel. All I can say is it seems to me they have become like celebrities and their life on TV is just a show. I watched the show at the beginning but now I have totally lost interest in it.


Jo Ann   February 2nd, 2009 7:24 pm ET

As a child I knew a family who, after having two biological children, decided to adopt and foster other children. What started out as well intentioned, ended up being an obsession and the number of children in the home kept growing and growing. This family, like Jon and Kate's, lived off donations and the church collection plate and the kindness of others. On the lecture circuit and in the media they were always portrayed as a huge, loving extended family.

Flash forward twenty years when I by chance met one of these adopted children. He was a nice young man but rather bitter. He said there was no love in the home and no time for any of the children. This couples' soul purpose in life had become "collecting kids", the publicity it got them and, as a result of that publicity, the handouts they got. The parents did not raise the children. The older children raised the younger children and on and on down the line. As soon as each child was old enough, including the couples' two biological children, they fled the home and never looked back.

Things may not be as rosy for these multiple birth children as their parents would like us to believe.


Alexandra   February 2nd, 2009 7:27 pm ET

The doctor that injected her with 8 embryos (after learning that she already has 6 children and does not have a husband) should lose his license. I understand that she is Palestinian and maybe back in her home country that is acceptable, but as a taxpayer, I do not want to take care of her and her litter.


Naomi   February 2nd, 2009 7:27 pm ET

In these tough economic times, it warms my heart to see our tax dollars hard at work supporting the continued idiocy of this family. Perhaps we should only have the number of children that we can financially support. This is just a special kind of stupid. Proud to be an American. Please let us all know if we can buy you anymore children.


Kerry   February 2nd, 2009 7:28 pm ET

John Smalter....thanks for the laugh! I was laughing so hard at your post that my husband and children came in and asked what was so funny. If all that you wrote wasn't the truth, it'd be pathetic. I so agree with the "teeth" issues that he has and have wondered those same things every time I happen to see him.


L Waller   February 2nd, 2009 7:28 pm ET

IT'S ENTERTAINMENT, PEOPLE! Get a grip.


Michelle S   February 2nd, 2009 7:30 pm ET

The woman is nuts and needs mental attention. In another paper it was said she wants 2 million for the first interview. Stop feeding the "Lets get rich by breeding a litter" people. I will NOT watch it, read it, I dont watch Jon and Kate either, She's forever putting down jon and he lays there and takes it like a beaten dog.


Karen Wasielewski   February 2nd, 2009 7:31 pm ET

Kate, I love your show!!! I hope you never stop filming, I so enjoy watching the kids grow.
Congratulations on the new home, you all deserve it. I hope you do not pay any attention to all of the hate that is spoken about you and your family. For all of the bad there is also alot of good wishes sent your way. It has been amazing to see how your family has grow and transformed to a life filled with less worry about money and how you will support your wonderful family.
You are an inspiration to me. I am so happy for all of you, I hope you enjoy all the future holds for you.
Just one question: Do you ever get tired of the cameras or have days that you wish they were not there?


Renee'   February 2nd, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Yes, please investigate the Gosselins so when you find that they are wonderful, loving, parents doing what they believe is best, to care for their children maybe some of these hateful, jealous people will mind their own business and leave the Gosselins alone. Kate is beautiful and quirky. I wish her family all the best. I think it's great she and Jon have found a way to support their family and spend time w/ their kids.


franko   February 2nd, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Please stop this rampant overbreeding!!! All of these multiple birth people are defying mother nature! If you were meant to conceive, great, have a replacement but stop populating the earth with your seed and creating circumstances that are shortsighted and completely narrowminded. Multiple implant parents are completely selfish. Try adoption if you are so empassioned with rearing kids! There are hundreds of thousands of needy children. I feel like I belong to one of the most intelligent but stupid species every to be created on this planet.


Blue   February 2nd, 2009 7:32 pm ET

Some of you people are ridiculous. Everyone should have the opportunity to have kids if they so wish, even if that means with in vitro. The lady in California was irresponsible as well as the doctors for letting a woman with six children do this and with no husband. The Gosslins had every right to have this done, they didn't know that they were going to end up with sextuplets. That happened by chance and it is their right to say we will not discard some of our children. They have had a wonderful opportunity to do well for themselves and their family and I think some of you are just envious or jealous. Get Over It.


Karen   February 2nd, 2009 7:33 pm ET

The latest is that she's shopping for a few million for her "story" and pics.

You REALLY can't be surprised at all, now can you.

Hey, the Duggers and Gosselins are living pretty good.

And she's does NOT have a husband. Word is the works at a fertility clinic.


Barb of Ohio   February 2nd, 2009 7:35 pm ET

P-l-e-a-s-e make sure you know what you are saying when you suggest that Kate "lied about her fertility", didn't want anyone making money off the show, "crying poor", their muti-million dollar mansion, etc. Know what it is that you are charging to be "FACT" and not just your interpretation of the unknown or something you "heard" somewhere. It's a sad situation when anyone can say anything they like without suffering any consequences.

Exploiting their children? How many of you have seen a movie or TV show lately with a child actor? Do you feel the same about them? How many of you have children under the age of five who participate in sports, dance, gymnastics, music lessons, etc. Was it their choice to participate or your choice hoping that someday they'll be good enough to make money doing it?


Stephanie   February 2nd, 2009 7:35 pm ET

DONT COMPARE THE TWO

We cannot compare Jon and Kate to this women. Not at all, they were married; they lived on their own; they didnt have medicad pay for their children and on and on.
This pysc job belongs in a hospital not fielding calls to the highest bidder who will interview her.


Penny   February 2nd, 2009 7:36 pm ET

The octuplets and the Gosselin 's are very different. so far we know the gosselin's are together and in love and taking care of their family , the only thing we know of the octuplets so far is want the news is telling us. Take a step back and allow this mother first of all to take a breath and maybe she will tell her side of the story but then again. we invited ourselves into her private business. she did not asked the news to come and make her a star. there is a different. Weather its right or wrong its not our business. people say of course if we are paying for the children threw our taxes. well wait and see first. How do we know this mother does not have a saving and has enought money to take care of these children. i have seen other stories of mulit.. births were parents do not have enough money to take of their children and people help them. another thing stop questioning the Gosselin 's on how they raise their children and one is unhappy. are all your children happy all the time and are all your children perfect. i think she has a handle on how her children feel . she is doing a great job her and her husband. So stop the judging and back off.


peter   February 2nd, 2009 7:36 pm ET

Kate as an expert on parenting is laughable at best (even when it comes to multiples). She seems to not really know how to be a parent when she's always yelling at her husband to take care of a situation with their kids. She may be able to teach this other mother how to work the media system, overexpose her children, and beg for freebies.

There are other families with HOM, or even just large families, that do not milk the pockets of companies and do not beg for handouts. They may work hard to support their families, but at least they are teaching their kids to work for what they want. How disappointed the Gosselin kids will be, later in life, when everything they want will not just be given to them.

The Gosselin's show needs to just end. Do we really need to know when each kid uses the potty or what they eat? I suppose it's comical how obsessed Kate is with *pointing out* that she's a clean-freak or her ridiculous exaggerations, but the entertainment factor of the show lies more with wondering when Jon will grow tired of Kate's harassment/bullying and fight back, instead of being a doormat. But, since that show won't air, it needs to just be canceled.


Teri   February 2nd, 2009 7:36 pm ET

What handouts have the Duggars taken? To the best of my knowledge, they fully support themselves. And, have done it without incurring any debt. I think a lot of people in this country could learn quite a bit from them.

Kate is a good mom and I don't think anybody can dispute that. She has more patience than anybody I know. And, Jon........well, he's a saint. Kate has some eccentricities and he's a saint to deal with those as well as 8 kids.

There are plenty of large families out there – multiples, mega-multiples, and/or a host of singletons. Not all are on tv and not all are taking handouts or getting government help. There is nothing wrong with it in most instances. I would have loved to have been able to have 10+ kids, but it wasn't meant to be.


Stefanie   February 2nd, 2009 7:37 pm ET

Larry, here is a brief list of questions I'd like Kate Gosselin to answer:

1.What advice would you give to parents with eight children, none of whom are multiples?
2. Should there be some sort of criteria when it comes to who is allowed to be implanted with multiple embryos?
3. What are your thoughts on welfare and unemployment?
4. Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
5. What would you say to Maddy or Cara if one of them came to you and said they were thinking about having six or more embryos implanted in their uterus?
6. What plans do you and Jon have for the future when all eight kids are out of the house and it's just the two of you?


Jen   February 2nd, 2009 7:37 pm ET

Parenting 101: "Parents work so that kids don't have to".

Learn it. Live it. Know it.


Susan   February 2nd, 2009 7:38 pm ET

I would like to ask about the Gosselin's new house. Last week's show didn't indicate whether their new house is in the same town or same state. I also noticed on last week's show, a picture of the front of the house was not shown to the viewers. Are you hoping for more privacy and that people will not know where your new house is located?


Dennie   February 2nd, 2009 7:39 pm ET

Why in the world would anyone bring so many children into the world? Our Planet is dying because of people like Her. Things have changed and we no longer need to have a lot of children so a couple will survive.

The Young Woman (30-ish) who recently had Octuplets has a compulsive disorder. She is on the same level as people who hoard cats or dogs. The fertility doctor who treated her should be stripped of his/her credentials. No unmarried woman with 6 children should be allowed to have more unless she can demonstrate that she will be able to provide for them.

Don't get me started on Jon and Kate. If you need to take fertility drugs to conceive, maybe you weren't meant to have children (natural selection, God's Will). If you take drugs, pruning shouldn't be considered against God because God didn't intend for you to have children in the first place. If they didn't have the TV crew to help raise their children, what kind of life would they have? If they didn't have a TV show, what kind of life could they provide their children? They should have stopped with the twins. That's the norm in America; 1.5 children per family. What makes them think they're special and entitled to consume more than their share of the World's resources?


Worried for the kiddos   February 2nd, 2009 7:40 pm ET

While it's noble, I suppose, for the few supporters who want to defend fertility mom... why do you not realize that the pregnancy and birth was just challenge #1. With one baby any normal, sane, well supported parent gets irritable, fatigued, and just plain worn out. How do you expect one woman to do this on her own? She can't! She does not have a partner (it's confirmed), her mom stated "she was moving out" when the babies come home. It is not possible, no way, no how for one woman to deal with this situation. And for those kids I hope she never has to do it alone... because if so the next story will be one of neglect and abuse- and those innocent kids who were born to an insane, irresponsible mother deserve better.

Those of us who are "passing judgment" against this woman are only doing so out of frustration. We are responsible, hard-working people (if we are lucky to still have our jobs) who can't stand to sit back and think of these children suffering at the hands of their negligent mother, her Dr(s) and their poor decisions making.


Peetee   February 2nd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

The mother of 14 children is going to make a very large amount of money and being in the financial business, I truly believe that the bankruptcy trustee should be notified so that she can collect the funds and payoff her creditors that she walked away from. I truly believe that these poor babies will become a problem for her. Mother and father need to practice "TUFF LOVE" and put her out of their house. The doctor should be sued for Malpractice and Kaiser should also be sued for doing this....all in all who will land up paying for these babies.....the American tax payer.


BRANDI INDIANAPOLIS   February 2nd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

IT'S FUNNY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO JUDGE OTHERS ON THEIR FAMILIES...ARE YOU GOING TO RAISE THEM? FERTILITY ISSUES IS A HUGE ISSUE AND SOMETHING THAT IS BETWEEN A COUPLE TO KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM. THE LADY WHO HAD 8 BABIES THAT IS HER BUSINESS....AND JON AND KATE PEOPLE ARE JUST JEALOUS ABOUT THEIR SUCESS! COME ON REALLY THEY ARE DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR FAMILY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH IT....BUT IT'S REALLY A GREAT SHOW!


Breeann M.   February 2nd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

I got a few tips for this mom. 1) get some help asap! 2) stop having babies especially since you live at home with your parents and you already have 6 others kids all under the age of 10! We taxpayers should not have to pay for you and your children. The media has already bought into this mess so your are pretty much set for a few years. When I heard this I was floored, how selfish can you be!


MIssy M   February 2nd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

I don't think you can call this new case of octuplets selfish or irresponsible without calling the Gosslins the same. The woman of the octuplets worked at the time she received her fertility treatments, she was married at the time and she didn't plan on having 8 or 7 babies – her goal, like Kate Gosslin's – was one more. Sometimes science can't predict the outcome of these things and selective reduction is a difficult decision to make. I will be watching your show tonight Larry. I like the Gosslins – enjoy watching their adorable children every week – but I hope these two don't jump on the bandwagon and verbally beat up this California mother. I think everyone should withhold their judgments of this woman and her situation until more facts are known.


Sandra   February 2nd, 2009 7:41 pm ET

I would like to ask Kate if the new mother in CA. has tried to contact her for advise. I doubt this family will be blessed like your family, so I hope you will help her. How about sendinng all of your childrens old clothes to her children?


Breeann M.   February 2nd, 2009 7:44 pm ET

Just a FYI: the comment I previously posted was not directed at Kate Gosslin. I was refering to the woman with the 14 kids. The Gosslins are the total opposite of the point I was trying to make. They have a 2 parent household with someone working full-time. So not the case for the woman with 14 kids.


quita   February 2nd, 2009 7:44 pm ET

# 7 STOP HAVING CHILDREN and quit making the rest of us pay for your dream family!


Deb Tracy   February 2nd, 2009 7:45 pm ET

Dear Mr. King...


jane   February 2nd, 2009 7:45 pm ET

Is it just me, or has every one also forgotten about the Duggar family? The media IS making this kind of life seem very easy , by choosing only to portray those that DO have it easy. No wonder people are thinking they will be richer or happier having more and more children.


Izzy   February 2nd, 2009 7:46 pm ET

how many embryos were implanted for the twins?


P grves   February 2nd, 2009 7:47 pm ET

The fertility doctor should have to help pay for raising these children. Who in their right mind would implant a woman who has 6 other children. He should not even be allowed to practice medicine or whatever he does anymore for making the decision to implant this woman. Take his money and let him pay for it and see how he likes that.


Barb1   February 2nd, 2009 7:47 pm ET

There are now 2 Barb's posting with obviously different views. I would like to address the Barb that thinks the Gosselins are great.

You say that you have great respect for the Gosselins because they have opened their lives for viewing and can handle it but not everyone can handle it. Have you ever thought that Jon and Kate might be able to make the decision to give up their privacy and handle the consequences but that 8 innocent children are in no way mature enough to be able to say one way or another what they want or can handle? The parents can say all they want that the kids are ok with it but can 4 and 8 year olds really know what lies ahead as a result of living their life or a big portion of it on TV. The job of parents is to protect and guide children to adulthood not use them to provide financially for the family.

As for actors and athletes, I agree that alot of them are overpaid and looked up to far too much. However, actors and athletes usually have a talent and that talent is not using their children to attain the fame and fortune.

Finally, you say that the Gosselins spend quality time with their children. Would that include the many public relations visits they make to the media studios (most recently the visits they made during the school week so Kate could grab more limelight when the octuplet story broke)? I'm sure you know that they spend this, as you say, 'quality time' with their children because you see it on TV. Well, they're being paid to do that because they need to keep throwing out more episodes to keep the money rolling in.

Jon and Kate Gosselin hold no secrets or expert information on anything except how to exploit their children for fame and fortune. Maybe the California mom looked up to them and decided to use the same game plan.


Karla   February 2nd, 2009 7:48 pm ET

I hope Larry King will ask Kate and Jon about what sort of restrictions are placed on them regarding their children's working conditions as well as income. I would like to hope that at least 80% of the Gosselin's earnings are going into trust funds (externally managed) for their kids.

I also hope that the California woman's situation will spur some laws to limit the number of embryos implanted. I realize that the doctor probably implanted fewer than eight, and then they multiplied, but still... why is a woman with six children under seven, including one autistic child and two year old twins, even getting costly fertility treatments? I believe that psychological testing should be a prerequisite for IVF.


SL   February 2nd, 2009 7:49 pm ET

People,

Please be considerate when adding your comments... some people are born on this Earth for a reason. Some people have babies to replace loved ones they lost, some have them to gain love they've never had... Nevertheless, these babies are human. Like the old saying goes – it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child... and now it takes a WORLD to raise a child... if you are feeling free to scrutinize these children and/or their parents, please do it under your breath... Children's lives are hard enough these days as it is... Think about your own children (if you have any) – would you want a stranger saying these things about you or your family? No one ever told you you can or can't have babies and how many of them to have or not to have... and, if they did – it's none of their damn business.

It takes very DEDICATED women to be fantastic mothers – God BLESS Kate Gosselin and the proud new Mommy of 8 (+6).

Congratulations Ladies... YOU ROCK!!!!

A very faithful Jon and Kate Plus Eight Fan... :)


Gracie   February 2nd, 2009 7:50 pm ET

Guess who will be supporting these children.......look in the mirror!!!
This is disgraceful!!! What does she want: media attention? money?? She is certainly getting the media attention!! Maybe she needs some psychiatric attention as well!!


Lisa   February 2nd, 2009 7:51 pm ET

There is no comparison with the Duggars to J&K. While I wouldn't have 18 kids, it was their decision. They pay for their kids. The father works, they have investments and they only were on TV with specials until this year, so TLC hasn't been their main source of income. Jon and Kate, on the other hand, have used their kids to support their lifestyle. At first they were a struggling family with multiples that people could relate to. Now, they're living in a million dollar home, going on lavish trips and get celebrity treatment. Unfortunately, I feel that the woman in Cali figured that if SHE had multiples, she could live the life of J&K. They're making people think it's a glamorous life.


mom   February 2nd, 2009 7:51 pm ET

If I give birth to 8 babies can i have 2 million too - please thanks !!


Tom   February 2nd, 2009 7:54 pm ET

Hey Kate,
I hear you're writing a new book:
How To Make Million$ with Multiple$- A True Story of Greed and Narcisscism Through the Exploitation of Children-with foreward by Nadya Suleman
You both disgust me.


Bethany   February 2nd, 2009 7:55 pm ET

i think its sad that people think they have the right to judge other peoples lives. agree with them, disagree with them. why is it your place to pass judgements on those you truly know nothing about
?


Lynn   February 2nd, 2009 7:57 pm ET

Larry,

Kate Gosselin is a fraud. She turned down help from her own parents and has cut them out of her life and out of the lives of her children. Her sister-in-law Aunt Jodi use to babysit for her until TLC wanted to pay her for being on the show. Kate then kicked Aunt Jodi out of everyone's life. Beth Carson was the author of "Multiple Blessings", but Kate took all the credit and even claims she wrote the book herself which is not true. A recent article in the Reading Eagle paper quotes Beth as saying, "I wrote it, they lived it." Kate Gosselin and her husband just use their children as props in order to beg for freebies. Recently during an interview in a Utah newspaper Jon Gosselin refers to the "marketability" of his children. I do not see why everyone in the media thinks this woman is some kind of saint or that that the woman in California is something special. It is very obvious that the mother of octuplets got the brilliant idea to have more kids than she could handle by watching the freak show that is Jon and Kate Plus 8. Each week Kate Gosselin and her husband cry poor and complain abut how hard life is with 8 kids and how they need a new house, a new car, trips to Disneyland or what ever and magically all these things happen. The Gosselins just moved into a 1.3 million dollar mansion and Jon wants to buy a condo in Utah, but all the while they cry about how they need money to put the kids through college. Now a new version of this freak show is about to emerge except the mother of octuplets went one step further. She has a great hook that sends the media panting after her, six kids already, one set of twins, one child with a disability, eight children born at that same time and oh yeah she's SINGLE!!! You might want to ask Kate how she feels knowing that her days as queen of the freebies is almost over. After all Kate only has sextuplets, that's such old news now. In my honest opinon no one should give either Kate or the mother of the octuplets the time of day. You made them, you support them end of story. Kate go back to nursing and tell your lazy husband to go back to his IT job. The parents to that mother in California should send HER to Iraq to make money driving trucks to support THEM and HER KIDS (not the other way around).

Lynn in PA


Jenn   February 2nd, 2009 7:58 pm ET

Sad to say, but the mother of the octuplets is already getting more attention then she deserves. Just look at all the hype her situation has created and all of us feel the need to comment on it. Whether we agree or not, we noticing and reading the latest with her issue and will most likely watch her reality show, even if she should ever get one.

I am in now way supportive of the idea of families having multiple children like the Jon and Kate family, nor the octuplet mom. Humans are simply not meant to have "litters" of children. There is no realistic way that one or if they're lucky, two parents could possibly meet the emotional needs of these children. When will adults grow up, stop being so selfish and realize it's not all about them, but they need to put the children first???

Having said that, I do hope that the octuplet mom does get a TV show of some sort. Like I said, I do not agree with it, but this is unfortunately the sad situation. Just maybe this could be a chance for the children to actually have their needs and they can hopefully grow up to be contributing members of society?? This would then ease the strain to the taxpayers if they get some sort of financial support along the way. It's a pathetic situation, but the damage is done. The children are here and the children need to be put first. They didn't ask for this and they should not have to pay the ultimate price for their mother's, or the Dr.'s irresponsibility.


Monce   February 2nd, 2009 7:59 pm ET

I don't think there is anything wrong with having that many children. I do however, believe it is irrisponsible to have that many IF you KNOW you can't take care of them all and provide for them correctly. If she had a great job, money in the bank, and lived on her own, there wouldn't be a reason to worry but that is not the case. She's selfish because her parents, who she's living with, didnt want more kids. It's not even her house, she should be more considerate


Martha   February 2nd, 2009 7:59 pm ET

I think Kate Gosselin treats her children unequally. Mady is very spoiled, but she is always allowed to be in the center of attention and domineer other kids. Cara, on opposite, is very sweet, but she is always overshadowed by Mady, and she always looks depressed because she really does not get enough attention. From small kids Kate obviously gives preference to Hannah, who now will even get her own room. Alexis, on the other hand, is blamed to be loud and "crazy", while in reality she is just a normal happy healthy kid.


Dollie from TN   February 2nd, 2009 8:00 pm ET

I think it's a blessing..

What's the big deal? If they chose to have this many children then so be it.. As long as they are treated with love, then their isn't one thing to worry about! I love watching the show, and I think both Kate & Jon are wonderful people. As for the new mother who just had eight babies, well then I wish you the best.. and hope you also get a tv show too! :) Enjoy your babies!!!!


mom of one   February 2nd, 2009 8:00 pm ET

The great burden on the state of Penn that was incurred by Kate Gosselin's desire to have "one more" was in the millions. Who can deny healthcare to babies? My point is, now that Kate is making money, she should be required to pay the state back.


Deb Tracy   February 2nd, 2009 8:00 pm ET

Dear Mr. King...
I find this situation to be just horrible considering today's economic depression. California is already handing out IOU's. The people of America are having a hard enough time dealing with their children, families, and for some, just their selves. This is ridiculous... How, or why would a Doctor impregnate a woman that has 6 children at home, when there are so many waiting families for implantion... Some families, can't even worry about that right now because the fact that they need a job is more prevailant.
I am just flabergasted at how this can even happen. Even more so that the Califoria tax payers have to deal with this when their state is virtually broke, and the US is going to have to pay for this. I believe that life is sacred, and precious, and is beyond my understanding. Yet, in our world now, when each American family is struggling in their own way, or helping out their extended family that is struggling, this is just not a way to proceed for us as Americans.
Jon and Kate, have wonderful kids, and are making the most, and best with what they can, and these negitive comments are directed at the wrong people. They certainly are using great marketing skills, and organization skills, and whether they put their children in the middle or not is really not the issue. I know, If I had the chance to work full time or more, where my children are in day care and I can spend but a few hours with them if that, or be at home with them working with them daily would be a very easy decision. Kudo's to you both. This is a full family; with a husband/father, wife/mother and a very supportive extended family.
This woman in California certainly did not take into account what her decision would do not only to her, but to her own parents is just so disrespectful to so many many people. People in California as well as America SHOULD be outraged. It is one thing to try to grow a family, and quite another to try to just produce children.


CAS   February 2nd, 2009 8:01 pm ET

Larry,
PLEASE ASK KATE ABOUT THIS LETTER! She has read it.

Dear Bobbi and Kenny,

If we emerge momentarily from the privacy we have sought all our adult lives, it is only to send a message to the McCaughey family. We three would like you to know we feel a natural affinity and tenderness for your children. We hope your children receive more respect than we did. Their fate should be no different from that of other children. Multiple births should not be confused with entertainment, nor should they be an opportunity to sell products.

Our lives have been ruined by the exploitation we suffered at the hands of the government of Ontario, our place of birth. We were displayed as a curiosity three times a day for millions of tourists. To this day we receive letters from all over the world. To all those who have expressed their support in light of the abuses we have endured, we say thank you. And to those who would seek to exploit the growing fame of these children, we say beware.

We sincerely hope a lesson will be learned from examining how our lives were forever altered by our childhood experience. If this letter changes the course of events for these newborns, then perhaps our lives will have served a higher purposes.

Sincerely,

Annette, Cecile and Yvonne Dionne


RE   February 2nd, 2009 8:01 pm ET

I think it is disgusting that the media even covered this story. The Doctor should be punished for this. What he didn't know she already had 6 kids???? Is this another case of Welfare abuse?????


Dorothy   February 2nd, 2009 8:01 pm ET

This is obscene. Like a bunch of rabbits. Doctors should have their licenses revoked. Like we need more people in the world. Judas Priest.


BJ   February 2nd, 2009 8:04 pm ET

The California 'mom' needs to be spayed.

Her first six children: A, B, C, D, E and F need a guardian ad litem to sue their 'mom' for malpractice. The woman is a poster child for legislation monitoring the right to have children. She has certainly proven that any idiot, in team with stupid decisions by professionals, can reproduce - whether the reproduction SHOULD occur or not.

All technicians and doctors who enabled the 'mom' to deliver the octuplets should be held financially responsible for their medical bills and other support needs, lifelong if any of the eight turn out to have permanent disabilities.

We are losing entire families during the economic melt-down. Now this irresponsible woman and her 'medical team' have brought octuplets into the world with no visible means of support. - in a bankrupt state. Congratulations to all involved.


Audrey   February 2nd, 2009 8:05 pm ET

I wish everyone would stop giving Kate such a hard time. She didn't have her children with the idea she would use them to "live off of". If you watch the show even once you would see how much she loves them. She isn't using them. Her and her husband Jon managed to become lucky enough to be in a position where they can "work" from home and make money to take care of their family. As far as the adoption thing she didn't want to adopt for the same reason why any of use don't adopt, because we want our own children, that we created. If you don't like the show don't watch and don't worry about it. The only reason that they are so famous is not because they made themselves so but because there are people who care about watching them and think that they are a wonderful family. Don't blame the media for making parents of multiples famous blame all of america who want to watch them.


L Wright   February 2nd, 2009 8:05 pm ET

Did you thank your children for your new million dollar house? After all it is them going to the bathroom on national tv that bought it for you. Also why are you so concerned with your privacy (hence the scream fest about not setting foot in your new high priced room) but yet your children have NO privacy? What happened to what J&K plus 8 was REALLY about? The struggles of a family with multiples! Now it's "Life styles of the rich and famous" where are they going to next FOR FREE! What spa is Kate going to? Your show needs off the air and there need to be laws to protect children like yours.


Cher   February 2nd, 2009 8:06 pm ET

The doctors who implanted the eggs into the woman with six kids already is also to be held responsible. If he or she knew that she had six kids already and one with problems, then the mother should've been turned down for future invitro pregnancies.

Some of you guys are right that these little 8 babies, plus the other 6 will be dependant on the government because mom can't work. There would be no way she'd be able to hold down a job and take care of 14 kids.

More than I love kids, 14 is way too many. I think the woman and her doctor has issues. How much money did the doctor who implanted the eggs get paid? How was the woman with 6 kids at home able to afford to get invitro again? Did she take the diaper money?

As of John and Kate, Plus 8, get rid of the show altogether. In fact, TLC get rid of all those stupid reality shows that are as boring as wallpaper on a wall. They're all the same and about people who are high on themselves.

With the Jon and Kate, Plus 8, the kids are all really cute and they seem well behaved. But the show is getting very boring. I stopped watching it after three episodes. Yes it's unique to have multiples, but enough already.

Whatever happened the educational shows about science and weather and things happening in the real world. TLC You Bite,...:(


stop the madness   February 2nd, 2009 8:07 pm ET

If you don't have the means to take care of six, you don't have the means to take care of 14.


Tracy in Sacramento   February 2nd, 2009 8:08 pm ET

It is reprehensible to watch these adults use their children as a means to an end in this manner. Maybe one day they will realize the real cost of this lifestyle. cost of these 'perks' they have become accustomed to has been paid for with their children's lives.

Parents are supposed to shield and protect their children, not parade them in front of television cameras and subject them to public scrunity in order to get a nice house or hair transplants.


Karma   February 2nd, 2009 8:09 pm ET

Wow Dorothy... a little harsh? These are human beings we are speaking of, not mice or illnesses. Have a heart!!


Angie   February 2nd, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Wow... I can not believe how many people are quick to judge and do not know the real story.

1. Kate had PCOS – look it up, she needed to have help getting pregnant. I have PCOS and am receiving fertility treatments.

2. CA mom had embryos implanted (probably IVF – which begs the answer how did she even have the money to cover that?) and she only had 7 embryos implanted – not eight.

3. Kate did IUI – basic method for this is that you take an ovulation inducer (Clomid) and then at the right time you have semen introduced into your uterus.

4. If you ever watched the program you would know a lot. Especially the behind the scenes with the crew.

5. Jon now does a consulting business. And Kate was not unemployed when they had the sextuplets. She was on maternity leave then continued to work on weekends when Jon was home.

6. Do you really expect them to do the show for free??? Of course they get paid for their time!

7. Do you expect them to stay in that house forever? They have probably saved up for it. And their children are lucky that they will be able to afford their college tuition now without a lot of help from the government.

8. Kate has said herself – anyone that walks into that clinic WANTING sextuplets or more should get their head checked! She expected to get another set of twins not sextuplets.

Their are many parents who do not give their children the time of day and they only have one or two children! Yet they manage to give their children a lot of time, pay their own bills and have even begun donating to the various charities that helped them.

Kate – you are an amazing woman and don't listen to the criticism.

Could you please detail how you came to doing IUI – I was diagnosed with PCOS just a few weeks ago and my doctor has opted for metformin and Clomid – I was wondering how long it took for you and Jon to decide on using IUI and what you did before that. And how many cycles you did IUI for before having a successful cycle.


Michael   February 2nd, 2009 8:13 pm ET

Tip #1, charge your huge hospital bills to the taxpayers. Tip #2, Get on Welfare for 14 kids, for the next 18 years, charge it to the taxpayers. #3. Get alot of government aid like MedicAid, and food stamps and other taxpayer money to pay for all your kids.


Peggy   February 2nd, 2009 8:14 pm ET

Is TV becoming the modern version of whay happened with the Dionne quintuplets? Wonder what the kids will think when they look back on growing up with cameras intruding on their every diaper change and melt-down?


Lightbulb   February 2nd, 2009 8:14 pm ET

Again the wingnuts from CafeMom and GWOP are here to shower the family with their lunacy. There should be a law against internet access in mental health facilities. Or better yet, there should be a law against libel and slander...OH WAIT!!! There is a law! So many losers, so little time.


Carole Roth   February 2nd, 2009 8:14 pm ET

Dear Jon and Kate,

I applaud your bravery and committment. Your children are beautiful. Thank you for sharing your life with me!

Best thoughts and hopes for your future(s)

Carole Noland-Roth
Richmond, Va


Julie   February 2nd, 2009 8:21 pm ET

Kate, I just LOVE your show. I love all of your kids and think you & Jon have done a remarkable with raising them. When Maddie is having one of her meltdown days, send her to me. I think she is my favorite of all the kids. She reminds me SO much of my oldest daughter!! I feel for you in the next few years raising all those teenagers at one time!! God love you!!


Sarah   February 2nd, 2009 8:23 pm ET

Kate Gosselin: Your older children are looking tired and worn and are increasingly unhappy in front of the camera. Will you end this show for the sake of their happiness and desire for a normal childhood or are you locked into a contract?

The younger ones haven't known any other lifestyle and might have a difficult adjustment when the show ends. Do you have a plan in place (professionals included) to help your younger children adjust to normal life?


kate   February 2nd, 2009 8:26 pm ET

Jon and Kate-You got your money, free trips, nice clothes, new home, etc. Whether that was right or wrong is no one's business. But ,Now it's time to stop. End the show and stop exploiting the kids.


louise   February 2nd, 2009 8:29 pm ET

Is Kate and Jon Gosselin still accepting love offerings from people at churches now that they have used the money to move into a 1.35 million dollar home?
Why did Kate and Jon take fertility drugs after only a few months of marriage?
When are Kate and John going to be honest with the public?
Since when did children become marketable?


nil schaps   February 2nd, 2009 8:29 pm ET

I agree with almost all of the negative comments about Kate and her family. It is too bad that people just watch the show and think it is all so great. John and Kate are simply making money off of their children, plan and simple. Why do people enjoy this type of nonesense talk week after week with the couple sitting next to eachother bantering about their relationship and their kids. There is so much need out there to really help kids – kids who are in foster homes, who are at-risk in their home, community, school; who are handicapped and have special needs. Why do we punish the minority Mother with only a few children unable to work or get health insurance or hold a job while glorifying the Gosslins? As for the single Mom of now 14, why else would she do such a thing except to be another Kate Gosslin without her John. I hope Larry that you get to the real hard questions here.
ns


Red, North Carolina   February 2nd, 2009 8:30 pm ET

She is obviously mentally ill and I hope social services deems her unfit and takes the kids away.

WHY ARE HER PARENTS SUPPORTING THIS????? If I came home divorced and unemployed with 6 kids, my parents would tell me that those were MY choices and I'd better go find a way to take care of them! How could her parents stand by and support this??? They are in a tiny house. WHO PAID FOR ALL OF THESE TREATMENTS??? Martha Stewart's daughter is trying for a baby and talked about how the costs are through the roof!


Cyndi   February 2nd, 2009 8:30 pm ET

This wasn't only unethical for the reason of how many embryos were implanted but also because she is a single mother of six. I have nothing against single women who want to become parents but this is selfish. How does a single mother spend quality amount of time with fourteen children. And take care of them financially. The answer is she doesn't. Many couples have trouble providing adequate care for one or two children much less a single mother of 14. Weather she thought all eight embryos would take or not the possibility of having a large amount when it was already clear that she could carry children was really high to risk having her babies start out the way they have. I wouldn't have gone for the selective abortion but i wouldn't have put 8 embryos in a healthy woman who had already proven she was capable of having healthy babys.


Jarret from Philly   February 2nd, 2009 8:31 pm ET

Attacking the Gosselin family for having so many kids and supposedly using them only as a ploy to make money is a completely unfair judgment. I think it is excellent that they have a TV show which allows for the lives of her children to be documented the way it is. Those will be memories that the kids will have forever. While I think the woman who gave birth to the octuplets was irresponsible in her choice I want to know what advice Kate has in regards to the initial management of taking care of so many newborns at once and some of the stresses that both decreased and increased as the children get older.


Crystal   February 2nd, 2009 8:33 pm ET

While I don't agree with the decision that Kate made for her family, I respect it and the challenges she faces raising her children. However, this CA woman is an entirely different situation. She is 33, single, living with her mom and yet choose to try to have a 7th child and ended up 14. Shame on our society for condoning such selfishness.


Nada   February 2nd, 2009 8:33 pm ET

Jon and Kate you are doing the right thing for your family. Don’t let these rude people hurt your feelings. The kids are perfectly happy and healthy. And are living a normal life. Their lives are no different than any other celebrity children that are out there. So why bash this loving family? I don’t get it. The bashing needs to stop because what if Cara or Mady came across some of the things that are posted here? They can read!!!!
I will continue to watch the show and support this family, perhaps my viewing will help them take another trip or get horses on their new property.

Stand proud Jon and Kate!!!!


Hope   February 2nd, 2009 8:33 pm ET

I would like to know WHY the doctor implanted that many embryos, when this woman already had 6 children, who's ages range from 2-7?


Cyndi   February 2nd, 2009 8:34 pm ET

I agree with DJE
For your child to get proper financial support, and a healthy amount of Quality time with good role models adoption is probably the best idea for at least some of your new babies.
I know that would be hard but it is probably best


melanie ashford   February 2nd, 2009 8:35 pm ET

i hope kate makes one of those rooms in her new house a "sick room" with beds and comforters! i felt so sad when kate put her sick baby in the laundry room on the floor because he threw up. she also said he ruined his comforter and he could never have another one.
they are washable. how about keeping comforters in the sick room, and WASH them when they are soiled
and kate , stop saying "stand with me or against me". who are you?
the man does have his own mind, and stop snapping at him like he is some kind of personal servant to jump when you say jump. try being nicer. it shows on his face that he cant stand you. he is there for his kids, but i hope he can get some time of his own with the fellas, (jon, you should find some buddies).
also , i hope these children have their own money from this put away , and not at the whim of kate. this is not controlled in the reality field.


Wendy   February 2nd, 2009 8:35 pm ET

Jon and Kate, I watch your show and let me tell you that I love it. I think that people that make comments of how irresponsible you guys are for exploiting your children are justJEALOUS. You guys just happen to be blessed by GOD with beautiful children and blessed by God allowing you guys to have this show. I believe God provides to you guys in this way. There is nothing wrong with being a Christian and being wealthy. These people abviously have not read stories in the Bible, how GOD would provide for these people more than they needed. As long as you always stay humble, you should be ok in the eyes of GOD. Who cares what people think. Besides who wouldn't take an apportunity like this when you have 8 kids you have to provide for. ISAIAH 40: 31 is a promise being fulfilled in your family. God bless you.


fxfanatic   February 2nd, 2009 8:37 pm ET

lightbulb
Why are you so bothered by truth?
You worship a false idol that wouldn't give you the time of day and you call us wingnuts??
We care about the kids. That's all.
Please, send your "love offering" because Kate needs new furniture for her mansion.
Great mom. That's a good one.

Somebody else said she was the most patient mom of anybody she knows. I am so glad I don't live where you did because there must be a bunch of uptight, entitled woman that don't let their kids be kids. Scary, all these sheeple. I thought our country had hope with this new president but when these idiots speak I start to think this country is doomed.


Cyndi   February 2nd, 2009 8:37 pm ET

I haven't seen any of this show people are talking about but i can not fault a married woman in a stable relationship for having eight kids. But this other woman is irresponsible.


Joe Johnson   February 2nd, 2009 8:37 pm ET

Why are we making people who have no reproductive responsibility celebrities?

Oh, that's because this is America where making as many children as humanly possible without considering the consequences is admired.

Pity.


Kathryne   February 2nd, 2009 8:40 pm ET

Please do not refer to adoption as if it were a "cure-all" for infertility. When you choose to adopt you enter into a whole new realm for which you need to be educated...Ever hear of PTSD being diagnosed in adopted children? Do you know how to recognize it? Do you know where to turn for help? I am the adoptive mother of twin girls and one birth child. I love my family beyond measure and I literally thank God daily for my family... but it's not for everyone. If you can't honestly close the door to your infertility issues then you will be compounding your own problems when you adopt. Adoption cannot be looked at as a second-best option... you can't "settle" on adoption. I guess some folks aren't reconciled with raising children they did not give birth to which is why they pursue infertility options. It's a smart decision if you can't fully love a child who you did not give birth to. The child will ultimately suffer. I'm happy for the Gosselins and I think that all families who stick together through good and bad times are winners!


Heather   February 2nd, 2009 8:42 pm ET

Kate, who do you think should be paying the medical bills for the California Octuplets...do you think Single parents with 6 other children at home, should be allowed to have Invetro?


Donna   February 2nd, 2009 8:43 pm ET

Wow... I guess there are certainly lots of opinions to navigate on having children in the U.S. I don't have children yet... I'm not sure I'm looking forward to everyone else having an opinion about them. Maybe I'll go into hiding for a couple of decades. :)
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My own 2 cents on the situations referenced here:
– Jon and Kate work. This isn't new – lots of parents work... even those already have plenty of money. Who said you can't enjoy both a job and your kids?
– The Gosselin kids may have to do things they don't like sometimes. My parents made us work too... chores (so many it would take several chore charts), babysitting for siblings, babysitting for neighbors, homework, music lessons (which were not appreciated), etc. My parents made decisions that they felt were for our own good. No two parents make the same set of choices.
– The Duggars, for however strange I think they may be... are completely self-supporting. Far be it for anyone to file complaints against them. Debt-ridden Americans should take lessons.
– The mom in CA? While I don't think that I have the right to decide who receives IVF and who doesn't, a slight change in laws could help resolve this. Every parent should have to sign a waiver indicating that they have the ability to financially support the number of fertilized eggs they are receiving... and the doctor who performs the IVF should be the financial back-up for the parents. Things will work themselves out.


Matthew   February 2nd, 2009 8:44 pm ET

These people are all idiots. The un natural multiple births are a joke. These people are lousy parents and that Kate chick is totally irresponsible on the show. She can not handle the smallest crisis. The lady in CA is a bigger joke. Welcome to the US welfare system. Now we can pay for her and her 14 illegitimate children. Nice responsible parent. They should also nail the doctor for lack of ethics. He gives invitro to a woman who can not take care of herself. This is terrible


Philip   February 2nd, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Does the IRS know about the $20 "cash only" signed photos that are sold at all of the events? Why cash only, and no receipt?


Nancy   February 2nd, 2009 8:46 pm ET

nada, you said..."what if Cara or Mady came across some of the things that are posted here? They can read!!!!"
If the kids are reading this blog, then the parents aren't policing their children's internet access, which is relatively easy to accomplish.
As a stay-at-home mother of 3 children (two teenagers), I'd be interested to see these parents and children in another 10 years and face issues as parents of teenagers...
Is carpooling when you have 8 of your own even possible? I've had to have 2 children at different places at the same time between birthday parties and sporting events...other things like policing their internet use when/if they have access, the talk about the "birds and the bees" and fertility issues, handle things like PMS in a house with FIVE teenage girls, do all the kids get their driver's license, who gets a car, etc.
If you thought things are tough while they're young, diapers, bottles etc., try paying for teenagers' car insurace, high school yearbooks, class rings, college books, fees & tuition....not to mention help with algebra, calculus, and physics homework...
Yeah, I'd be interested to visit these people in another 10-12 years....


tiffanie from California   February 2nd, 2009 8:46 pm ET

My question to Kate is – has she mellowed out a little bit, now that the children are a bit older. I can't watch the show too long, the tension in her voice, demeanor, yelling at her husband, etc.. stresses me out. I remember the Crayola field trip, Kate didn't allow the chilren to draw, paint, fearing that ink, crayons, will get on the pretty outfits. Hello it's a Crayola factory, let them PLAY and PAINT, who cares about their clothes, let them experience and enjoy life without so much rules and regulations!! Kate just seem so uptight and I really hope for the sake of her family, that she take deep breaths and relax more often.


Susan   February 2nd, 2009 8:46 pm ET

The doctor in this case should have his medical license revoked. This all sounds like a hugh publicity stunt on both the doctor and mother's part. The doctor wanted to be the "One" and the mother is looking for all the freebies. She is obviously not a stable person and sadly, these poor children will suffer for it and society will have to pay for it in the end.


Matthew   February 2nd, 2009 8:47 pm ET

These people are an example of the Welfare State in the US. It is just a joke. We all pay for this junk. Now you have some crazy woman in CA doing it. The Kate plus 8 family is a joke. If either parent was responsible they would have limited the fertility. Nice playing God now we can all pay. Larry you should keep this broad off TV not promote it.


Barb of Ohio   February 2nd, 2009 8:47 pm ET

All of you who choose to listen to the "gossip" about Jon and Kate are probably the first to run out and get the latest copies of "The Inquirer" and believe everything in it. Give credit to the show to the editors. Of course they are going to make the show interesting by picking out what will make the best for viewing. Don't like it? Don't watch it!
Go for it Jon and Kate. You and your children are the best!


robin   February 2nd, 2009 8:48 pm ET

I just wanted to know what color Kates eyes are. I have written their website many times and never got an answer.


Jana   February 2nd, 2009 8:49 pm ET

Larry.....PLEASE oh please ask this woman the hard questions.

Why is your family not involved in your life?

Why did you have fertitly treatments only 6 months after you were married?

Why did you have fertility treatments when you could not afford heat, etc...for the two children you already had?

Why do you say, you still do not have money for college for the tups when the LT Gov of PA started college funds for them when they where born?


karkri   February 2nd, 2009 8:49 pm ET

To Rod Traverse:

You are not Indian (Canadian or American). You are a Native Canadian. Don't insult us real Indians (from India in Asia) by calling yourself Indian.

I'm sick & tired of every native tribe in the world being called "Indians" by the European settlers. It is a shame that even the Native people (like you) call themselves Indian.


Cyndi   February 2nd, 2009 8:50 pm ET

Christy.
Brangelina have enough money to support there children not to mention that they have six not fourteen. They wont be using tax payer money to support their children. This is a single woman living with mommy. Bringing eight new children who are going to need extra care home to a house that is 1500 square feet where there are already 6 children. And weather she knew she was going to have all eight or not she knew she was healthy and able to carry kids so there was a chance. There is a reason that some countries actually have a law prohibiting more than three embryos from being used at one time and yes there were eight embryos implanted they thought that only seven of them actually took.


Hello Pot Meet Kettle   February 2nd, 2009 8:52 pm ET

Hey Kate

Where's Aunt Jodi and Nana Janet and everyone else you've banned from your life?


David   February 2nd, 2009 8:52 pm ET

Larry,

Please do us all a favor and do not glorify this practive befitting of Canines. Octuplets is not a miracle. Surgically implanting 6 more breasts on the California women, would in-fact be a miracle. And she might be able to feed those kids.


Ray, PA   February 2nd, 2009 8:53 pm ET

The story about the mother in California makes me really sick. The fertilization process should be reserved for those that truly need it! This woman should have been turned away... how should the process of fertilization be handled any differently than adoption? She already has SIX children... many devastated women cannot even have one! These doctors that impregnated her and delivered these children were all out to "make another buck" and it was unethical. This mother does not have the means to care for these children. How did she even afford the fertilization in the first place??? It is sometimes covered by insurance, but it is expensive, and I am sure she can't work!

If this woman tries to make money off these children, there are going to be issues. She is already going to leech off the government to help care for them, and in the middle of a crisis! If she were smart, she would have never shown her face or revealed her name because people are outraged!


Teresa Bills   February 2nd, 2009 8:53 pm ET

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY! It's always about the money!! What happened to having a loving spouse, a loving family and just the self-worth that you did all on your own?!? That's how I like to live my life. And shame on that doctor for even implanting those embryos into a single mother of 6 kids already!! Where was the thought process in all of this?!?! Those poor babies did not choose to be here, but were chosen to be here by their selfish mother...shame on you too!! A "real" mother wouldn't have been so ignorant.


sammy   February 2nd, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Sheeple. Used correctly, this term refers to all the haters who spout the same old words, over and over and over. No originality whatsoever. On the backs of their kids, exploitation, etc. etc. And the way you throw the word "truth" around as though you have the ultimate right to say it. Get over yourselves. There are so many more fans than haters. And please spare us the "I only care about the kids". Bleh.


Debbie   February 2nd, 2009 8:53 pm ET

The taxpayers are paying for this woman's need to be "special" in some way. This is NOT a private matter between her and her doctor. The public is paying for health care and education and the whole world is suffering the negative environmental impact. Her selfishness demonstrates an amazing lack of awareness.
Yes, this is a judgement. The decision to have a litter of eight is, of itself, an indication that the woman is not fit to parent..


JL   February 2nd, 2009 8:54 pm ET

The early shows were somwhat interesting but Kate has turned into the mother from hell. I don't know or care about her original motivations but in case you haven't noticed, the older girls are already emulating her emasculating behavior. This family is going to be a nightmare for the boys. Actually, it is probably Jon's fault for being so "absent." Something had to fill the void. She certainly should not be dispensing parenting advice, though.


kandise   February 2nd, 2009 8:54 pm ET

I believe that every child is a a precious gift. I also believe that the world that we live in today cannot sustain the amount of people that are already here. To conciously have one or two children is one thing but to decide to have multiple children multiple times is putting added strain on society and the planet as a whole.


Real Reality   February 2nd, 2009 8:54 pm ET

Where is the reality show that depicts a middle class family with three children, both parents working, scared to death that they may lose their jobs at any moment in this economy, struggling to pay for health care, student loans, a mortgage and a car payment not to mention wrestling with the decision to either put gas in the car or food on the table this week, coming home exhausted each night but still finding the time to spend as much precious time with their children as possible, reading to them, playing with them, caring for them and once they are cleaned, fed and put to bed finding the time to take care of the household chores before falling into bed exhausted only to start the whole process over again the next day? All the while the parents try their best to show love and respect to one another despite all their worries and struggles knowing that their children will only learn love and respect if they first see their parents demonstrate this to one another. This family will never be given a love offering, a TV show or a book deal but yet they still carry on doing their best to provide the American Dream for their family. This is what reality is for me and millions of others like me. But I guess that this truth is simply too boring to be exploited in the media.


Shelton Lawson   February 2nd, 2009 8:56 pm ET

Why not discuss the positive benefits that our economy would reap if marijuana were legalized. And in case Michael Phelps is green smoking a bong is not just a youthful activity.


Matthew   February 2nd, 2009 8:57 pm ET

To Rod Traverse,
Get off the reservation and get a job.


Laurie   February 2nd, 2009 8:59 pm ET

In a few minutes, I'm going to watch "24". It'll probably begin with some sort of gunfight or just Jack beating up on a suspect. Yes, I enjoy this show. Tomorrow I'll watch NCIS and see at least one dead body and at least one shoot-out. I do enjoy this type of show. BUT... when I watch "Jon and Kate" I really enjoy myself because I see eight adorable kids during their day doing what kids their ages do. I make the choice to watch all the shows. I think Kate and Jon are doing a great job. Plus, when the kids grow up, they should have hugh extended families. At this time in my life, I live with a sister who has no kids, both of my brothers died at young ages – no kids. My older sister has two children still living – only one near us, parents are gone, and my only child is now 27 and says he is not yet ready to have kids. Jon and Kate's large family sounds great to me, Keep the show going!!!


Philip   February 2nd, 2009 8:59 pm ET

Also wanted to add, that Larry and staff: Despite the vitrol in some of these comments remember one of the cardinal journalistic rules of sniffing out a story: "Where there is smoke, there's fire".


Barb of Ohio   February 2nd, 2009 9:00 pm ET

Hello Pot – You obviously don't watch all the shows. One of them has moved to Tennessee and the family did visit her. The other was visited during the Christmas caroling. Don't make a big deal out of your lack of the facts.


Emily Blume   February 2nd, 2009 9:00 pm ET

To everyone who has commented here: until you have had high-order multiples, you truly have NO idea what it's like to raise them, with or without media attention. Until that time, leave the Gosselins alone. It's easy to say "I'd do it better" or "I could do it with no help at all" when you've never done it.


ceecee   February 2nd, 2009 9:02 pm ET

this is like the old lady who lived in a shoe, she had so many childern she didn't know what to do.
So no matter what we are all going to pay for them and clear our calendars for baby setting, the babys are here so lets all pich .


milliemomoffive   February 2nd, 2009 9:02 pm ET

The Gosselins aren't much of a family. More like a product. She worked to market her crew since before they were born. She wasn't found by the network she's on, she sent them a tape! I really hope the kids turn out okay, but it's not looking good. That big spread they're moving into sure isn't going to teach the kids to be respectful of each other or their parents. Especially with the banishment from each other's territory they seem to mandate. Immature parents breed unhappy kids. Kate was in her early twenties and had only been trying to get pregnant a few months when she went through fertility treatments.? She has been ALL over the television this week; please stop. Kate, you just aren't very interesting. The woman in CA...sounds even more contrived. These kids are people who need to grow up and be contributing members of society. Not babies all born at once.


Jayne   February 2nd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

To all of the supporters of reality show children: I believe your viewing intentions are good so please don't think I'm commenting about you or your choice of television.

Jon and Kate gave up the possibility of having healthy parent/child relationships in the future. These children are going to be so hurt when they realize that their childhoods were sold. They will watch the episodes years from now and see favoritism. They will hear hurtful comments made about them (one is dumb, one is gay, one is aggressive, one is mean). They will see moments of severe embarrassment and shame, but unlike you and me their worst moments were shown to the world. The sextuplets won't know what childhood memories were genuine and which were staged. They will be confused and hurt and angry and there will most likely be lawsuits. The older girls already know what they can do to push parental buttons. In a few years they will be able to take their mother's knees out from under her and rightly so. I will be cheering for them.


Elizabeth   February 2nd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

It is pathetic that all of you would take this much time out of your day to complain...how about we worry about something else...like I don't know the current state of our economy...our government...???


Joe   February 2nd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

Larry,
Why are people giving this lady so much crap about having 14 kids? I am not part of the LDS church, but in the Mormon community, there are several families with 8 to 14 children and no one is saying anything about the LDS Chuchs policy and beliefs on having as many kids as you can, yet this lady gets so much grief and it is news???

Do some stories on LARGE LDS Families and give them the same amount of air time and see if you get the same response.


Cindy   February 2nd, 2009 9:04 pm ET

Hi Kate and Jon,
Two Questions:
1. How do you sustain your energy all day and not get run down? (Or are there times that you totally collapse from the physical and emotional demands of raising 8 children?????

2. Could you tell us a little more about your extended family? My kids have one set of grandparents that are immersed in whatever the kids are into and another set of grandparents that are not inolved much as they are more interested in "playing" with their friends in Florida.. What is your situation?

Thank you!!!


Janette, New York   February 2nd, 2009 9:05 pm ET

Hi Larry,

To me, the only thing wrong with this picture is that if this woman is unable to care for her children and depends on government funds to sustain her, then she had no business bringing more children into the world that she can't feed. Otherwise, if she is financially able to care for these children and has the love and support of friends and family, we don't have the right to judge her or anyone that can care for their own children.


mary   February 2nd, 2009 9:06 pm ET

Jon and Kate plus 8 is one of my favorite shows. I have never missed an episode. They are wonderful parents and have so much love for each other as well as their kids. I agree Kate has changed a lot since the beginning of the show, however, I see the change as being positive. She seems to be so in love with Jon and always apologizes if she feels she's been unfair. She's much kinder to Jon than she was when the kids were smaller. (Sleep deprived maybe??) They give so much back to others and never forget how blessed they've been. I miss Aunt Jodi and Beth as well and hope to see them on a future episode.


Johnny Rockett   February 2nd, 2009 9:07 pm ET

Home school them, raise them to all think they're special, convince them they should all have as many special children as they can, as fast as they can. Let it go on a few generations. Won't life be great?


Jessica   February 2nd, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Wow people are absolutely rude.... if you guys had the chance you have a show and make money and get free stuff you wouldnt appreciate jealous peoples comments.
kate, im a fan of the show, but i also know that before you had a show you were a studying and working nurse (as am I). I commend you on being non judgemental and giving your advice to a mother or fourteen.
i think its obvious that a nurse with two sets of multiples would be asked to give advice to another mother of multiples, especially when she has personal expertice in the matter.
congradulations again Gosslin Family.


ashley   February 2nd, 2009 9:08 pm ET

Hey Barb of Sheeple-
That was Christmas caroling in 2007. You should watch the show more carefully. They have pushed away everyone who loves them.
love, a former babysitter


melanie   February 2nd, 2009 9:09 pm ET

kate,
so your kids will have to stand at the doorway to your bedroom and never ever come in there. kids love to run in mom and dads room and hop into bed, for a little TLC for an hour or so. this way you give them attention at one time. all in the bed, being tickled, everyone laughing. then all falling asleep. kate, how about making this a once a week thing, since it is not natural for you to want to be with your babies in this setting.
i cant stand kate. she shows no real motherly love towards her kids.
if the kids dont approach her for a hug, she never makes a move to hold her babys one at a time, sit in a chair , and just be. i feel sad for those kids. cara is invisible, and maddy didnt even want to be her mothers bridesmaid.
she doesnt love her husband anymore. he knows it, but he is stuck. mady said she liked her dad better on a morning show last week. she is just like her mother. she is picking up moms ugly ways. again, i cant stand kate. i cant stand kate. i cant stand kate.


Nancy Jackson, Waukegan, IL   February 2nd, 2009 9:10 pm ET

Am just curious. A few years ago, a couple i think in Iowa had a number of twins – i think more than 3 sets, not sure, but a lot of babies.

This Iowa couple were congratulated, loved, showered with all kinds of baby stuff, from diapers, clothes, bottles, fomulars, cribs, lots lots of stuff, a car, even a new housing!!

Why all of a sudden this single mother is being questioned, judged and not so much a downpour of gifts for the already born babies?? does this have anything to do with her background [race], unmarried?

I condemn bringing kids into the world with no good plan like how to hve quality time with ea child adequately and with no father in sight. Its morally evil and selfish. But, i see double standard here for this CA woman.

She has not said she cant afford it, and if she cant afford it, she is like thousands of other single women who look up to the tax payer money to raise their kids! Many single moms dont hve to work, all they need is hve babies and the govt will care for them fully. whats wrong with American system.. enabling laziness at the expense of hard working people??

thx


Matthew   February 2nd, 2009 9:11 pm ET

They need to cut all the welfare programs and build orphanages. This welfare state is a joke.


anne paranzino   February 2nd, 2009 9:14 pm ET

I think that Dr.Karen Maples should wipe the smile off her face!!!
I don't think it's a wonderful event when 8 babies are born under weight,
and might suffer permanent damages.


Susan   February 2nd, 2009 9:16 pm ET

And she now wants $2 million just to talk to Oprah. Let the publicity show begin...

The media needs to avoid her like the plague and not give into her money demands. Let her get a job like the rest of us!


Bev from Texas   February 2nd, 2009 9:17 pm ET

Larry, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ask the hard questions!!! Why do they get to deserve a 1.2 MILLION dollar house with this economy? What makes the Gosselins any different than the Dionne Quints???? They are pimping out their family and exploiting those children – ask them why!!!!!!!! Ask them how they work, how many hours are the cameras on those kids – WHY ISN'T THERE REGULATION FOR THESE "REALITY" CHILDREN LIKE HOLLYWOOD DOES FOR CHILD ACTORS????

Larry – be a parent and truly look at these two who free-loaded off the state of Pennysylvania – EXPECTED a Medicare/Medicaid paid for RN for another year after having a FREE year of assistance – been given most of the things they have. THEY DON'T WORK – THE KIDS DO!!!!!

Get Paul Petersen on the phone and get him in the conversation – even her husband Jon was quoted in Utah last month about the "marketability" of these children – that's sounds like an AGENT not a PARENT!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE ASK THE QUESTIONS!!!


Kimmyann   February 2nd, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Kate, Is it true you plan to homeschool all the children once you move?


Susan   February 2nd, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Elizabeth, go find another blog or stick to the story line.


Kamila   February 2nd, 2009 9:22 pm ET

Kate and John are ridicilous, I would not take any parenting skills from them. She gives all the advice sits pretty in her chair and tells the whold world she is tired but yet she has nothing but handouts and helpers. I cracked up when she told the kids in their new home that they would not be allowed in there parents room " take a look this is the last time you will see this room" Your not allowed in mom and dads room. Kate, If it wasnt for the kids you would not have a room like that let alone a house like that. Your Hawaii trip and all other things you get for free. Your kids have given you security in this economy so be greatful and stop your whinning. You should apologize to your kids, you forgot who really brings the paycheck home.


Outraged   February 2nd, 2009 9:26 pm ET

It is about time America reviews its policy of handing free money to pple having children with no plan to work and feed those children.

How can we now bark at this CA woman while many women do the same across America? If the govt will give free money, food, expenses, education, why does anyone need to look for a job? Hard working Americans take on the burden of these irresponsible parents!

Maybe, like China, reproduction right should be regulated because of many children born to people who cant sustain them or who abuse the system. Worse, even having irresponsible sex like animals – only to conceive kids and face decisions of murdering those innocent lives!!

If one cant afford a child, why not protect the pregnancy? You see pple at homeless shelters who hve several children even while homeless! I think the govt should intervene!


Carmen from Riverside CALIF.   February 2nd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

This is in regards to the woman who had the 8 children: I really do not think that she is mentally capable of caring for these childern plus the six that she already has, there is no support in the home, these children should be placed in a home where they can be cared for. Also the Doctor who performed this should have his license taken away. All these poor children will basically be a carnival show to the world. This is a very tragic story that breaks my heart for these 14 children.


Nitin   February 2nd, 2009 9:27 pm ET

Larry, humans have, and continue, to find strange ways to live within their means. My grandmother had 14 kids, too. Not duplets, not triplets, but one at a time. They all went on to become doctors, engineers, and successful business men. With God's grace this woman's kids will not only survive but will prove to be wonderful citizens.


Jen   February 2nd, 2009 9:28 pm ET

I love John and Kate plus 8. I find them inspirational and you can tell they love their family.
How does Kate handle all the criticism that has surrounded the show?


Mike C.   February 2nd, 2009 9:29 pm ET

I'm trying to understand why everyone is in such an uproar over this lady having these kids. I don't see anyone in an uproar over women who are on section-8 and living in a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment w/6-10 kids. As a police officer I saw this many times, so I'm very perplexed by this all. As Americans we should be helping each other out. Instead I'm sure there are people out there that will say "Oh, why should we help I have my own family". We are just a bunch of hypocritical people that have nothing better to do than to scrutinize this poor lady. God forbid she had decided to abort them.... Boy then she would have been the most evil woman alive. Mind you business people! Let this family live in peace. Lets get this Doctors that implanted the eggs involved.


Lauren   February 2nd, 2009 9:30 pm ET

In my opinion, Jon and Kate have always done what is best for their family. Both were employed when they went through fertility treatments for the twins and then the sextuplets. It was not their intention to have six babies, but when you can't get pregnant on your own with one six is a blessing. I'm sure being filmed constantly and criticized by strangers isn't always fun for them, but has given countless opportunities to their family.

On the other hand, this California woman was trying to have her 7th baby. That would be ridiculous, even if she wasn't unemployed, raising her children by herself and freeloading off her parents. She has major issues but will hopefully be able to pull it together for the kids. Kate and Jon are excellent parents and the California Crazy should take any advice she can get from them!


Kennedy   February 2nd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

What about the drain on the planets resources that irresponsible over reproduction produces. What is the cost on food and water resources? What are the costs for education system and healthcare system. Perhaps we should consider taxing individuals who produce more than two children in their lifetime. It is time we seriously start to discuss zero population growth in this country.


Gram   February 2nd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

To all you "Christians" who are worried that you will have to support these babies. Do you also believe that a woman does NOT have the right to choose what happens with her body? You could be supporting millions more if women didn't have that right. And don't say they could be adopted. There are many, many now that are not being adopted. Would you adopt if you didn't know the background of both parents? How about those who don't know who the father is? Just a little food for thought!


Anna   February 2nd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

This day when things are so toughwho would want to bring in 8 more children? This woman is unemployed, living at her parents home, divorced, and having children out of marriage. What kind of role model is she for her children?


leslie   February 2nd, 2009 9:31 pm ET

In a state that is sending out IOU's for tax refunds-the big question is are we paying for this million dollar multiple birth? No one is mentioning welfare.


robin   February 2nd, 2009 9:32 pm ET

I have as much right to post what I want as anyone else. Everyone is treating Jon and Kate like they are monsters. I'm asking a simple question.


Betsy   February 2nd, 2009 9:33 pm ET

This woman does not seem to be mentally sound. This is one time the government should require sterilization.


Jim V.   February 2nd, 2009 9:33 pm ET

Larry, not Gupta, but your other two doctors don't know what they're talking about. If you're going to use tax payer facilities, it sure is "our" business. Why hasn't this fertility specialist been found out and charges pressed?? The woman herself should be charged with conspiracy to defraud the government.


Carrin   February 2nd, 2009 9:34 pm ET

The only difference I see in Kate Gosselin and the mother in California is ... ...??

Hmmm....

Well, there MUST be something different.

Nope, guess not. They are BOTH plain crazy!


rose   February 2nd, 2009 9:35 pm ET

I AM TROUBLED BY THE JON AND KATE EPISODES. THE GOSSELINS HAS MADE MILLIONS FROM THIS TV SHOW. WHY WOULDN'T THE WOMAN IN CALIFORNIA WHO HAD EIGHT CHILDREN WANTTHE SAME – MILLIONS! THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES. JON AND KATE AND THE EIGHT PLUS THE GIRLFRIEND AND HER CHILDREN FLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY – WHO PAID FOR THE TRIPS – WHO PAID THE MILLION OR MORE FOR KATE'S PREGANCY – THE TUMMY TUCK – THE HAIR TRANSPLANT FOR JON – THE HOME – THE PAID HELP. SURE, SHE TALKS ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR BUT THANK GOD FOR THE TV AND THE PUBLICITY. WHAT HAS KATE AND JON STARTED. KATE ALREADY HAD 2 BEFORE THE SIX – IT IS THE SAME SITUATION JUST A NEW MOTHER IN THE COUNTRY.


Stephanie   February 2nd, 2009 9:36 pm ET

The courts should order her physician that implanted 8 embryos to provide financial support to this woman and her children. We, the tax payers will end up paying for their care. Why can't this type of medical procedure be outlawed!


sheila   February 2nd, 2009 9:37 pm ET

Enough of the Gosselins! In my opinion Kate does not have any expert mothering advice to offer! Someone who has nannies at their disposal as well as maids and gardeners cannot understand the trials that a mother of 8 has without all of these luxuries. I truly wish these people would stop getting any media attention, drives me crazy!


Kennedy   February 2nd, 2009 9:39 pm ET

I think the Chinese have the right idea!!!


June Banks   February 2nd, 2009 9:40 pm ET

How can you possibly NOT ask the obvious question :
WHO is going to pay all these medical bills and who is going to support this family in the future ??? You didn't think to ask this ?
Think of the hundreds of thousands of dollars medical care !

I think I have a stake as a taxpayer in asking "who is paying ?"
I think it might be me and other taxpayers, not this woman .


P J Butler   February 2nd, 2009 9:41 pm ET

As a resident of California, I hope this woman does not expect the state of California to help raise her 14 children. And who is paying the very expensive hospital bills? I don't think this woman has the financial resources to handle 14 children. The decision to have these babies was a completely irresponsible decision on the part of the mother and the doctor who allowed the pregnancies.


Jeri   February 2nd, 2009 9:42 pm ET

This woman will be just like Kate eventually. She'll have someone cooking, cleaning, doing the laundry etc. Someone asked how does this woman get all the energy? She doesn't do anything except looking for handouts all the time. She is the right woman for this show, she could give the Cali lady pointers on mooching because she is obviously going to need it.


Joyce McRae   February 2nd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

The important question Larry failed to ask is who will pay to take care of all of these babies??? How will the mother support them, or will it be up to we taxpayers to support them? Is she on welfare now?? I only have two children because I feel that is all that I can adequately support.
I believe you are entitled to have as many children as you like IF YOU CAN SUPPORT THEM without public finds.


David   February 2nd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

CNN.... would you please send Larry King into retirement already?!! He introduced Kate as, "In Chicago is Kate Gosselin the star of TLC's Jane and Kate Plus 8". JANE and Kate??!! This shows one of two things: 1) Larry is completely out of touch with his guests or 2) he's becoming senile and is confusing the name "Jon" with "Jane". He is an EMBARRASSMENT to CNN! I have NEVER understood why he is still on the air.


Melissa   February 2nd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

Kate, stop treating your husband like a worthless dog. Of course, most people in this country treat their dogs better. Now that you have so much money, kick some over my way. I work hard for a living, but when the price of gas hit $4 a gallon, my budget was busted. Now I am deeply behind and in debt and can't pay the utility bills. Hey, maybe someone might want to do a show on a financially struggling, hard worked, well educated, single mom. Nah, too boring.


Sasha   February 2nd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

I used to really enjoy the watching the struggles and challenges that Kate & Jon faced while raising their children. However, the show has now changed. Lately, it's been about how successful Kate, Jon and the family are at big (all expensive paid) trips, how fashionable Kate can look (with high end hand bags) and instead of the parents sharing the struggles of parenting, they basically preach about how to do it right. I feel the show has reached the end. Their life is now all about glamour and it is no longer a reality show based on a real life. It's a reality show based on a life that has been changed by the TV show itself. Pull the plug TLC, I'm completely done with Kate. Her days of preaching on TV should be over.


kay   February 2nd, 2009 9:45 pm ET

why are you so concerned that the women will make money off her children kate and her family is making money, no one questioned kate about her ablity to raise her children. talk with the mother first before shooting her down . i think if kate plus eight can make money so should she be able to get rich like kate . get back with me larry king . and be real yes it is a lot of babies hold the doctor accountable for this one larry king. kate you making millions go girl with you eight.


Worried for the kiddos   February 2nd, 2009 9:47 pm ET

Lame interview Larry – could have lasted the entire hour. Though interesting that everyone seemed uncomfortable. So we have to be cautious and PC about what we say, but not how many children we have?


Barnyard Ballerina   February 2nd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Wow...
Now I'm really curious and have to go look up on 'Youtube' and 'The Soup' to see how hatefully Kate treats Jon.


Kate   February 2nd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

I have never seen so many judgemental people. I don't know what made me read peoples responses...but wow. Who of us hasn't been wrongly judged by others? Not one of us has the right to sit here and scrutinize the lives of others, who in reality we know nothing about.

And, for the record, my mom had 8 children, God rest her soul, and she was not crazy..she loved children, and was open to life, as we are all called to be.

We are all different, make different decisions, and we also all know, too well, how awful it feels to be judged by those who have never walked a step in our shoes.


Debbie   February 2nd, 2009 9:51 pm ET

Kennedy – you are right on! The government needs to do a cost analysis of each new human. I will give everyone one child – if they have to – but other than that, you have to pay for your kid.
What is wrong with people that they think all a family has to do is feed them. It is eveyone's taxes that are supporting education and health and roads and police officers and on and on and on.


Kamila   February 2nd, 2009 9:53 pm ET

The Duggar family that is 18 kids and counting is impossible to raise without help. They were living a small mild lifestyle on a tight budget, father worked then the show came and boy did things change. Look at that house. Then the father is giving financial advice that 3 years ago they became debt free because they watched every penny, they pay cash for everything well let me tell u Mr. Duggar you pay with cash because you can with a show your getting payed for. You got out of debt because of the show, you sold your family just like the Gosslins. Im not debt free, no matter how hard I try because I have car, house and school payments. I dont have a show and I would not sell my family out like this, you can afford your kids because the show supports u. So stop giving financial advice because really u dont have one, you just pretend you do...


KATHY   February 2nd, 2009 9:54 pm ET

The woman who had the eight babies shows such disreguard for these children and for life. She has no husband and her parents have gone into bankruptcy. It is no doubt due to the fact that she already has six other children ages 1- 7due to invitro fertilization. Money is always the reason. If a person cannot have a baby naturally they take a temendous chance that more than a few will be born. This is the case of Jon and Kate plus eight. I had to laugh at her judgemental voice when she claimed the other woman was wrong in doing what she has done! Money has been made for Jon and Kate to go on fabulous vacations without the children. Jon and his wife do not work, however they have just moved into a fabulous home due to the money generated by their reality show. Showing her children and focusing on their bad behavior or problems has consequences. A child should never have their actions on camera for the world to see, yet these people do it for MONEY!!! It also appears that Kate has had some work done on her face. There can never be the time for all of these children to be loved. In a family where many children come, even a year later, there is the emotional bonding that later is set for the next child. I feel this is truly child abuse and the clinic that allowed these events for the woman in Bellflower, California should be shut down.


Natasha   February 2nd, 2009 9:54 pm ET

How will Kate use her success to help those parents struggling to raise chronically ill children?

If she really is a woman of her word, I would hope to see great things come from her platform in the next few years.

I will be waiting and hoping. I would hope she will make a significant positive impact on the world. She's has taken ENOUGH and now it's time for her to give back!


Jenna Bradford   February 2nd, 2009 9:58 pm ET

Dear Larry; I felt compelled to look up your blog so I could comment on our society's reaction to the mother who recently gave birth to the octuplets. Why the outrage? Where are all the "Conservative Women" (actually the name of a group that I've heard on XM Radio) who put "family values", motherhood (and therefore themselves) on a pedestal and scorn anyone who believes in a woman's right to choose. This Mother MADE a choice. It is her personal choice to have given birth to these 8 children. This woman is obviously pro-life – where are the pro-life backers now? Could they possibly be the same people who are spitting hateful barbs at this woman? So it's OK to be pro life as long as it is only one life at a time and you can afford it? Oh and by the way, there IS a father – somewhere.


Anna Umberger   February 2nd, 2009 10:02 pm ET

Larry, I have watched the case of the Cassey Anthony since it started. I would love to be on the jury, and hear all the evidence. I am a person who could put this things aside and really listen to what is presented in court and then make a decision. With the evidence now that I have I would have to say guilty, but the true facts will come out in court and they may not be the same as what is being presented on TV news. I live in Florida, but not Orlando so no jury for me. I hope and pray that it turns out that Cassey did not do this. It is a horrible thought to think a mother could kill her baby. If I did not work I would try to go to the trial if they let people in. Everyone deserves their day in court and so does Cassey.
Thank you!


Debbie   February 2nd, 2009 10:03 pm ET

Kate -
I would NEVER walk in her shoes. No one forced those shoes on her and I would NEVER chose a similar pair (or four pair)!
I am just outraged that I have NO choice but to support her and her kids because I live in California- which is broke! No one should be allowed to have children that can not pay for. How dare they!


James   February 2nd, 2009 10:04 pm ET

HEY, IS IT JUST ME?...OR IS THAT PAJAMA-GRAM COMMERCIAL PROMOTING MULTIPLE BIRTHS???


Jai Harris   February 2nd, 2009 10:04 pm ET

I find it amazing that you had the biggest pimp of children in recent history on your show judiging if the mom of the 8 should make money off the kids well ask what is Jon and Kate doing? How much have the made off their kids from TLC who is she to judge someone. I mean really!!!


Jo   February 2nd, 2009 10:04 pm ET

Wish this had not aired during the new moving-in episode of J & K+8. I watched tonight and feeling really disappointed that one of the few shows that I actually enjoy watching is not so enjoyable anymore. Kate seems to be letting the success go to her head. She is coming across as very vain now. I am still appalled by the episode of Maddie kicking her little sister in the ribs over and over again! Mom was so busy cleaning the new "old" fridge she didn't have time to be bothered with caring for her children. As a side note, I noticed on the show tonight that the original fridge that she spent 4 hours cleaning is now replaced with a very expensive sub zero! Wonder if she used a coupon for that thing! This may quickly be just another show I love to hate. Worse, I may regret ever having contributed to their rise to fame. Pay attention Mom & Dad, they need you not "space". I think you were the one who wanted that.


donna jones   February 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Larry just saw the show on the octublets. My question is why would anyone care. My greatgrandmother had twelve children back in the day and no seemed to even noticed. Yet the concern I noticed from your guest was did she have enough love to give to all her children and could she support them. I have to ask myself the mother of the sixtubleys is forever on the circute who is careing for her children and look where she is getting her money?


Sarah   February 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm ET

I agree that Kate has gotten totally out of control with the way she treats her husband. My young daughter loves the show because the youngest children are her age, however, I can hardly stand to have her watch it anymore because Kate's treatment of others is so awful.

I work at a university teaching educators in elementary and special education. I'm trying to complete my doctorate degree and my husband has a job as an utility supervisor. We also work full time at home raising livestock. It is 24/7 around here and we still can't make ends meet. Our insurance was cut to a $5800 deductible which we cannot afford after daycare, home insurance, etc. It makes me so angry that more money has to come out of my paycheck for people who do the UNTHINKABLE and bring children into this world with no money and support (woman with 8 more babies on top of her 6) and expect me and others to pay for it. DO YOU KNOW HOW BADLY MY HUSBAND AND I WOULD LIKE A 4th CHILD? BUT WE KNOW WE CAN"T AFFORD IT AND ARE SO BUSY TRYING TO SURVIVE THE DAILY BILLS AND WORK- HOW WOULD WE HAVE THE TIME TO RAISE THEM! If we could have the money back they take out of our paychecks every month, maybe we could take our children to the doctor, get braces for our 12 year old, and I could finish my final degree to keep my position. It just absolutey makes me so angry!
Well, have to get back to WORK!


John James   February 2nd, 2009 10:09 pm ET

Well, I just saw Larry Birkhead tell Larry King that he is going to get a reality show of his own also. If we stop watching these programs, they will stop filming them.

JJ


respectfully outraged   February 2nd, 2009 10:19 pm ET

I just watched the show on the octuplets. No one talked about the cost of these 14 children on society. Yes, you had a psychiatrist talk about how it will be hard to give the children time, etc., but let's talk about the cost....A single mom is entitled to have children, even if she's unemployed. I respect that. But, is she entitled to have 14 children who undoubtedly will be a huge burden to society, financially, logistically, through programs etc. These kids may have issues ranging from learning disabilities to health issues. Who is going to pay for that? Who is going to pay for even well baby care? housing? food?
It would be one thing if these babies were conceived naturally and by some fluke, she ended up with 14, but she chose to have this many kids! with no means to support or care for them! The doctors who implanted 8 (or even 7, but REALLY?) embryos should be held responsible, as well.
And now she wants to sell her story to pay for the babies...using them. OMG.
I love our new president, but we pull contraception from the stimulas pkg, don't want to pay for preventative care, but are willing to support 14 children for their entire lives – My guess it will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million dollars! How about we encourage people to have the number of babies they can afford to care for!


Kt   February 2nd, 2009 10:20 pm ET

To all of those who say that those 14 kids in California and their mother are none of our business, I say THEY ARE TAX PAYER BUSINESS! Don't have more children that YOU can feed! I am a teacher and all of my students are on free or reduced lunch (school lunch is $2.25), but somehow most of them reek of $3 a pack cigarettes. Why are parents not held accountable for maintaining their own households? Why are they aloud to buy cigarettes, beer, manicures, weeves, extensions.... but are not expected to pay for their own children's food? Parental irresponsibility is rampant and had been, that crazy leech in California just made a bigger blip on the radar.

Perhaps we really should start calling for more parenting laws, more strings attached to government hand-outs, fertility treatment regulations, and heaps more social shame and pressure to behave in a reasonable manner. But then again, that would require more than blogging....

KT


sammy from nj   February 2nd, 2009 10:21 pm ET

Kate does not look happy plus she looks like she has just returned from a spa !..


Gram   February 2nd, 2009 10:21 pm ET

What's the big deal about the kids not being allowed to go into the parent's bedroom? The younger ones have not been allowed in the twins bedroom since it was finished for them. I actually do know a woman who has a teen age daughter who has never been allowed in the mother's room!

Everyone needs to realize that it's TLC who puts the episodes together. They choose what gets in and what goes out. Just how long would you watch Kate cooking, the friend folding clothes, doing the laundry, helping the kids with homework, etc?

Because you didn't see Maddie being disciplined doesn't mean it didn't happen. Did it ever occur to you that possibly they did not want it to be put on TV? And so what if she got a new refrigerator. Maybe when she was finished cleaning it she found that it wasn't working properly? It obviously wasn't taken very good care of so that would not be a surprise to find that it wasn't cooling as it should.


Ex-Fan of Jon & Kate   February 2nd, 2009 10:34 pm ET

Wow!..this is very enlightening....I did not know that Jon & kate were the social leaches that they actually are...they as well as TLC should be ashamed of how they are scamming all of us with their tale of woe and how they pinch pennies to survive...what a crock!..... This show should be yanked off the air and then have a new show with the reality of how a family of multiples really live without sucking the system dry (Welfare & Medicare) and adding to the burden of american tax payers!...Shame on you Jon & Kate & TLC!!! Prediction: 8 years from now..Jon & Kate will be broke and have their house on the auction block just like Lottery winners that spend like drunken sailors and then wonder where it all went...keep living large Gosslins..the gravy train may end sooner than you think and where will you be then???...The kids won't be "Marketable" anymore!


Sharon Reid   February 2nd, 2009 10:39 pm ET

Mr. King. You should do a show on child exploitation. Kate Gosselin would be a good guest to have on such a show as she has her children working and making money, supporting her family! A missed opportunity!


Bree   February 2nd, 2009 10:53 pm ET

Larry, PLEASE if you really want a "first," have some of your research associates do some investigative work on the Gosselins. Then have Kate on your show again and ask her the really hard questions. Questions, that so far, the Gosselins refuse to answer. We've heard enough of the "fluff" pieces ... what we really want is for someone to do an investigative piece and expose the truth about these modern day con artists.


sean brizendine   February 2nd, 2009 10:55 pm ET

lets just call the los angeles octuplets the jon and kate phenomen

sean


Linda in Missouri   February 2nd, 2009 10:56 pm ET

Dear Larry,
I just heard on the news that the mother of the new babies has hired a publicity person to help her make money off her babies.
How in the world is this any different than Kate Gosselin and her six and set of twins?
TLC has glorified this family and EVERYONE is aware of the money this family has made off their children. So why in the world, would anyone be surprised that this new mom in California would think she could turn this around to a profit making event??
Your tv station and others that keep having Kate Gosselin and family on for interviews are promoting the "cuteness" of this situation. It is no wonder that a woman that is not stable would "run" with this and see it as a great adventure and a way to get rich quick.
Didn't Kate and Jon do the same??
In the end all of these babies are the losers in each situation. This is science "gone wild" and the babies pay the price.


Jayme   February 2nd, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Sometimes legislation is the only answer:

Children who are part of reality shows need to be protected with equal laws for child actors.

Watched some sort of "recap" of J&K + 8 tonight. Kate herself said she "hates the lights." They "overstimulate" her. And yet these children have been under them since their early days.

She "doesn't like the crew around". (Jon does.) Then we were shown lovely clips of camera crews filming the children close up – eating (child shoves hand into lens). A tup in bed (is no where sacred for these children?). Another tup laying with a bucket on his tummy as he is sick. (Who wants to be filmed under hot lights, with a microphone shoved in their face when they just feel like vomiting? And where was an adult to hold that sickly child.)

These are just a few of the things that I saw tonight that disgust me.

These children are NOT living any sort of normal life – they constantly have WORKING people in their home, invading their own personal space.

CNN – PLEASE DO A SHOW ON CHILDREN IN REALITY TV, AND DIG IN DEEP. IT CANNOT BE HEALTHY FOR THEM.


With all due respect Mr. King...   February 2nd, 2009 11:05 pm ET

There is absolutely no advice that I would take from Kate or Jon Gosselin.

This new mom of 14 children is emulating the steps of the Greedy Gosselins, from suspicious use of fertility treatments (why don't you ask Kate about THAT?), to purposely having too many children (under the guise of Christianity and refusing to reduce) to now demanding $ for her "story".

What a waste of air time.

And to all the "how dare you judge" Kate lovers : EVERYBODY judges. It is this criticial thinking process that allows one to determine the difference between right and wrong.


Eddie   February 2nd, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Larry,

Have you ever watched Jon & Kate Plus 8? I am shocked you haven't picked up on the enormous controversy of this farce of a reality show.

Kate Gosselin is a joke. Why are you asking her opinion about something I feel she has failed miserably at, and is probably the reason behind this whole octuplet / fertility scam?

If you want a LKL show with a huge rating, do some scoop on the Gosselins and ask them the hard questions. You will most likley get a lot of "ummmmms" from Kate because she can't keep up with her lies.


Mike P   February 2nd, 2009 11:24 pm ET

Regaurding this CA woman who decided that 13 kids was'nt enough. I'm appalled by the whole thing, but I have a question. Who payed for the insemination (sp) of these 8 kids? From what I hear she has no husband/boyfriend, she has no job, she has no house because she lives with her mom. Now the state of CA is suppost to turn around and write her a hefty ( to say the least ) child support check? Boy CA, I'm glad I got out of there when I did, because incase you hav'nt noticed, your 60 billion in the hole.


Melissa   February 2nd, 2009 11:24 pm ET

As for exploiting children, seems there was a guy back in the early 70s named Joe Jackson who exploited his kids also. We all knew them as the Jackson Five. How many times have we heard Michael say his childhood was not normal and how he wished he would have had one. Maybe, if they had not been exploited by their father, Janet and Michael would not be in the messes they always seem to be in. Just a thought.


sailormansea   February 2nd, 2009 11:25 pm ET

OH YES THIS IS ONE HOT TOPIC TONITE! I have been investigating the the situation that led to the artificial insemination of frozen transplanted embryonic implants, that were surgically administered to the now not so proud mother of octuplets that reside in Whittier, CA. The mom whom is now identified as Nadya Suleman was paid by an undisclosed source to become pregnant artificially via a unnatural series of processes namely vitro fertilization, embryonic implantation, along with artificial insemination. She was already a bankrupt , unemployed, unmarried mother of six living with her mother with her six prior children before most americans learned of her claim to fame. This irresponsible adult whom is old enough to have attained a degree in " Child and Adolescent Behavior" from the U of California has decided to undergo experimental outpatient laboratory experimentation on humans specializing in artificial impregnation via embryonic implants from frozen embryo's along with frozen sperm from a anonymous donor. Who's your Daddy? They will probably never know ever. I want to know whom made this possible! Was it a private foundation or some cockamamey experiment with the University of California. She has been described by friends and neighbors as a career/professional student so my first instinct is to look at experiments performed by liberal U of C. I am a liberal democrat people! This reeks of irresponsibility like Wall Street Execs getting bonuses while millions of hard working americans tighten their belts. President Obama spoke of personal responsibility to all of us and I have heard him plain as day and agree that we are all responsible in our own way to change things by making wise and practical decisions that will make our country a better place. I am feeling the spirit and exercising his will through my own as we all should as patriots. I am sorry to say that this woman fails herself, her family, and her country by not doing the right thing. If this was a case of natural and accidental conception, then my attitude would be 180 degrees different. I feel for the children since they will alone fall prey to being victims to their own mothers lack of common sense. God Help these children Lord sweet Jesus.


Mike P   February 2nd, 2009 11:34 pm ET

What I mean by that is the state of CA is forking over enough child support to this one person/family, instead of 14 family that have one child.


Mike P   February 2nd, 2009 11:36 pm ET

She must've taken the advice of her mexican nieghbors, Yeah I said it.


Kristen   February 2nd, 2009 11:48 pm ET

If the Gosselins could afford fertility treatments, then they can afford to raise eight children without exploiting their kids for cash. Those poor babies deserve so much better than this. Also, I'm pretty disgusted that the Gosselins COULD afford fertility treatments, yet still begged the State of Pennsylvania for Medicaid handouts. I can't have children. I can't afford fertility treatments. I am LIVID that I have to pay for these irresponsible brats' decision to bring children they can't afford into this world by unnatural means.


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 12:01 am ET

This comment is for lisa and pretty much every ignorant person writing comments.

If you were any much of a "child care professional" you would know not to judge the full magnitude of a family who is 1. On TV 2. You haven't met yet. and 3. who you have only seeing a PORTION of their lives

I assume that Jon and Kate knew what they were doing when they were approached by TLC and I also assume that they gave it much thought on being on TV and what their lives would be like. And personally all of you people who are criticizing them are just clearly jealous because you don't have your own TV show or benefits they have now. You would do the same thing too if TLC approached you and don't say different, for arguments sake, because that is bull. And I think it would be irresponsible of someone, who is struggling to make ends meat and has 8 or more kids or any amount, to turn away a television production company offering a chance for you. Why wouldn't you want to have money to be able to raise and provide great things for your kids. People complain everyday their aren't rich or famous and just because you don't find your golden ticket doesn't mean that you should hate on people who have. Also Jon in Kate, in one of their episodes about the viewer comments, did say that the cameras are not there every day they are like there 3 days a week at most until ... no not wee hours of the morning... because television crew has to go home too people. So stop showing your jealousy for people who you don't even know in real life for one LOL. Do you honestly think that the producers of the show don't ask Jon and Kate to maybe create some type of drama to keep the ratings going .. please. It doesn't look like they are harming their children. The kids love the cameras there. they don't hide their emotions. If the kids dont want to be on camera they don't have to, which was a comment Kate made in the recent view comments episode. Also Kate has rules for her house that the crew have to follow so they can keep a sane environment for her kids. And there is nothing wrong with that. People who don't have rules have out of control children. And there is something wrong with that :)

And please like all you ladies who are saying Kate abuses Jon lol, which makes me laugh cause thats not true at all, like none of you have ever yelled at your husbands or even your kids for that matter. You all complain about other people. Its just the nature of your personality to be judgmental and voice your opinion. My butt you don't do that at home.
Get a life, stop complaining about how hard your situation is and go and fix it, and stop watching the show if you have this many problems against it.


Tiffany   February 3rd, 2009 12:12 am ET

I am a working woman who wants to have a baby but my husband and I cannot afford in vitro. How can a non-working woman afford to do this six times?


Peggy   February 3rd, 2009 12:13 am ET

It's blatantly obvious that all the "mothers of multiples" and Gosselin fans posting here are both Kates PR team and young girls between the ages of 12 and 18. Kate has blinded them to what raising kids is really like. Hiding the fact of all the help she has. Please stop idolizing Kate and her "magic uterus." Find someone else to have a crush on besides Jon. These 2 are con artists who have ridden the gravy train off the backs of their children. Get this show off the air before more people think having litters of children as a cash paying job. It's the kids who are paying the price.


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 12:20 am ET

Oh yes her mother also said that she has totally had it up to her eyeballs with her daughter and her koo-koo for Coco Puffs obsessive compulsion over having a zillion babies. She claims to throw her daughter out of the house when she returns home, but there is only one little problem there. The deranged mother, daughter of the mother that intends to put her out of the house.....doesn't own the house. The deranged daughter owns the house legally so the only one that can be possibly be homeless would actually be the mother's mother. Are there too many mothers here in one sentence, certainly too many for one house.


Mike P   February 3rd, 2009 12:22 am ET

Michelle,

I think you need to sit the f down and get your facts straight missy. I don't have a right to be upset with this lady from CA that already has 6 kids, no husband, no job , and no house, and decides to have another 8 kids? The taxpayers are paying for her kids so that actually does make it my business. She has no business putting that kind of strain on the system. She is the type of person you were addressing lady, not me! She is the one who is counting on a book/movie deal, not me.


ed ,vancouver canada   February 3rd, 2009 12:24 am ET

One good thing about having 8 or 10 or 14 kids is that by the time you change all the diapers,it is time to cook.then clean,then do diapers all over again.
That leaves no time to make more kids that you should not have in the first place.At least long enough that the first batch can be babysitters.
Families with 8 spread out kids have a 12 year old to help out with the youngest.
They get to learn at very young ages how to be a mother.
Just like a few hundred years ago.
These are selfish twisted people living off of child prostitution.


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 12:27 am ET

To Michelle: Were you doing Bong hits with Michael Phelps earlier today because you are babbling girl.


margaret armstrong   February 3rd, 2009 12:31 am ET

rich movie stars charge millions for their kids pics, why not anyone else,


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 12:33 am ET

Maybe bleeding heart Michelle will accomodate the Mutter of 16 when she gets booted by her own family. Like all the other pro life nuts, she is all that in theory until it effects her life and wallet. I am with all the other responsible people that pay for what they sow and therefore reap. You got a lot to learn young lass, a lot indeed.


Mollie Berberich   February 3rd, 2009 12:34 am ET

so i'm watching larry king about the woman who's having eight more children for a total of fourteen.

how insane is it that now people are telling women that they're not allowed (or shouldn't) have as many kids as they want?? i mean, the religious right is fighting to end abortion and restrict birth control, yet, this woman is being ridiculed for having more children than is "acceptable".

seriously. make up your mind...

or better yet, stop telling women what they can or cannot do with their bodies.


judy   February 3rd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Everyone is being so kind to this Mother saying as long as they are clean and cared for, no one should be criticized. Lets get real, she has no job and has 6 other children and who do you think is going to have to pick up the tab for these kids. The people of California !

I think as long as you are able to care for them financially, it's no ones business but she's already getting assistance from someone and her parents are broke. What is this? A raise in pay on her welfare check?

This should be everyones business and also sounds like she's already exploiting them!


Suzanne   February 3rd, 2009 12:35 am ET

Larry,

On the Gosselins blog, Kate had stated that she was hospitalized for overstimulated ovaries when she was trying to get pregnant the second time.

It is SOP for REs to cancel a cycle if this happens, instruct the couple NOT to engage in intercourse and wait until the next month to try another IUI cycle.

However, Kate states that she was hospitalized and then they found out within the month that they were pregnant.

My question to Kate is this:
You were hospitalized for Overstimming. Were you and Jon told to wait the cycle out?
Did you go against medical advice about the overstimming and have intercourse, resulting in the sextuplet pregnancy?


Cindy Duval   February 3rd, 2009 12:36 am ET

I was wondering if can ask Kate from the reality TV show the following questions:

1. The other guests talked a lot about being counseled about the number of embryos. Was she counseled during her pregnancy, what made her decide to keep so many?

2. Assuming the show provides some sort of financial help and man power while on set, does she think she would be able to survive without it, without the show’s support?


Joyce   February 3rd, 2009 12:36 am ET

KUDOS to Kate! you look amazing tonite. I watched your episode tonite where you took the family to the beach house. The way you and Jon interact with all the children is amazing. This new family of multiples could take a few lessons from your family. Keep up the good work. You are a loving family and it shows!


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 12:40 am ET

I am all for the sale and purchase of her maniacal story. Anything to keep the already overburdened taxpayers of the state and country from paying more unnecessary expenses due to a lack of common sense by the mother and physicians. 2 million buys a lot of diapers, baby food, formula, and hamburger helper later on. Come on Larry, break out that check book and dust it off good...write that check and I swear I will put you in my last will and testament.


caroline clark   February 3rd, 2009 12:44 am ET

I have been reading the comment's too bad kate hasn't. Her and her husband are making money off the backs of there kids. Maybe TLC should pull the plug and then see how well they do, NO FREE STUFF.


Pam from Utah   February 3rd, 2009 12:45 am ET

Coming from Utah, I am confounded that folks think that they can procreate without limits! This planet can support only so many of us!
In addition, the woman in question is in a situation that is intolerable for raising happy, healthy kids!


Kristen   February 3rd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I honestly don't care how many children someone has – as long as they can pay for them without burdening taxpayers. That seems reasonable to me. Your uterus is not my business, until it demands my money.


Shelly in Canada   February 3rd, 2009 12:45 am ET

I believe "Michelle" is actually Kate.

Perhaps you shouldn't type when you're angry, as it only verifies you truly are a nut job!

I too once wanted 12 kids, as a teenager. because I never felt loved growing up.
Thankfully I overcame my desire to have 12 kids after high school.
I have 3 grown daughters who have never been on TV, yet are all well adjusted young ladies.

Shelly in Canada


Mina   February 3rd, 2009 12:49 am ET

I tihink that the obstetrician that was intergviewed was wrong! Of course is up to the parents to have the choice of the number of children that they want, but in this case the mother seems like she had no idea how she planned to raise the children or how she was going to support them... The Dr. herself said she would need support both economical and physical.... There was a quote from the grandmother in which she herself disapproved of her daughter....


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 1:02 am ET

Good Gosh Miss Mollie,
Lets be real here! Nobody is telling anyone that they don't have the right to have as many children as they desire providing that they can care for the amount of children and can afford the cost that is incurred with the support of them. This is a woman that is not only jobless, but is in debt at the tune of $ 980,000 before her bankruptcy 11/2 years ago proven by public record. She only survives due to her parents intervention financially. Her previous 6 children are being cared for by her mother whom is aged and tired. Not only has this irresponsible woman ruined her parents financially, but now her mother is left to care for her daughters 6 children that were also conceived by artificial embryonic implants and insemination of stored cryogenic sperm. The daughter has caused a major catastrophic impact in the lives of her parents. The father whom is a truck driver is returning to Iraq to seek gainful employment to try to help pay some bills. So does this spell out destitution on the part of the parents? My advice to you Mollie is for you to get your head out of your ass and research the topic before you spew your ignorant fecal matter orally.


lisa   February 3rd, 2009 1:19 am ET

i'm new at this so will someone please tell me how it works? does larry king read these comments or print them out and give the to the guests so that they can see what questions people have?does larry king investigate and try to find answers to our questions and report back? seriously, i want to know who see's these and if anyone tries to answer them. 1st thing i would ask is who is the doctor? they found out who the mother and her parents were-why can they find the dr.? 2nd did he know she already had 6 kids? no job? no home? who will pay for her (and her kids)hospital stay? and please people, yes SHE does have a problem but lets not let the poor little kids have to suffer because of it. as for jon and kate plus 8, my only question is is there a fund set up for the kids for later in there lives and who has control of it?


Mike P   February 3rd, 2009 1:24 am ET

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT! IF THIS LADY FROM CA THAT HAS 14 KIDS IS GETTING MORE MONEY FROM THE STATE EACH MONTH THAN MOST HOUSEHOLDS BRING HOME EACH MONTH. I CAN AND WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. IF SHE COULD AFFORD IT, NO BIG DEAL, BUT SHE CAN'T. NOW SHE IS BURDENING A STATE IN WHICH HAS NO EXTRA MONEY, IN FACT THEY ARE GETTING READY TO GO BELLY UP.


kiy   February 3rd, 2009 1:31 am ET

It is amazing how people quickly judge. Please find out all of the facts and address her by her name as you do Kate. The blessings are here. Continue to pray for the families.


Janet   February 3rd, 2009 1:37 am ET

I can't belive the response and attacks on Kate and her family. They are doing the best out of the situation they had and if they figured out how to make money and have time with their kids then good for them. The rest of you with negative commnets are just jealouse that you weren't offered or didn't think of it first.

My real comment is regarding legal requirements and child right issues for all kinds of fertility treatment. Why aren't people who are opting for fertility treatment treated with the same scrutiny as one would need to go through to adopt a child? I'm sure this lady with these new Octuplets would have not qualified to adopt 8 newborns...she can't afford it, she has 6 other young children to care for, she is single and that's too much for one person. Is there any policies on the issue?

I live in province of Ontario within Canada and it seems to me our province takes giving people a drivers licence a lot more seriously then allowing someone to become a parent. There should be some steps parents needs to pass before being allowed to do fertility treatments that are likely to produce multiple births. We should look at adoption policies for guidance.


Deb   February 3rd, 2009 1:40 am ET

Everyone should contact TLC and let them know that we don't enjoy the direction the show has taken. I too, enjoyed the family at first -and still like Jon and the kids. But the fame has seriously gone to Kate's head. I personally think the show should just become holiday specials. That way people who want to know how the children are progressing can still stay tuned in. A Christmas, Back to School, summer vacation type of show. Just a couple of times a year. They obviously do not need the money anymore. No one helped out the family with the first set of octuplets in Houston. What about the Dilley sextuplets who are now about 15. No one helped them out financially. Maybe these families decided it was better not to exploit their children.

WRITE TLC AND LET THEM KNOW KATE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN CHECK, SHE IS TURNING AWAY LOTS OF FANS OF THE SHOW!!


Khandi   February 3rd, 2009 1:50 am ET

Why do people feel that Nadya has a PROBLEM? Does Jon and Kate have a PROBLEM? NOOO. I am sure that they couldn't survive with 8 kids on his salary alone. Please stop dragging Nadya and her blessings. They are here. Get over it!!!


lisa   February 3rd, 2009 2:00 am ET

to michelle- i did not call you or anyone else ignorant. however i DID meet the family (not meat) on more than one occasion. i have heard them (jon and kate) speaking harshly to each other, in front of the kids, off camera and i am not jealous nor envious. those kids will not be ready for the real world. fact.
i'm amazed at these comments, some are so hatefull and some act as though they actually do know the family and the other writers. don't assume. you know what that makes you. we are allowed to express our opinion's and feelings. you don't have to agree, just disagree without the nasty remarks.


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 2:02 am ET

and where did u meet the family lisa? im sure you did


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 2:07 am ET

ooh yes lisa and your comments were so respectful.


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 2:09 am ET

because im sure if you had kids you would be perfectly calm and collective.


Jack Kennedy   February 3rd, 2009 2:14 am ET

Larry, ask Kate how it feels to be a conman and does she hope that her children don't learn this way of life.


Jacque   February 3rd, 2009 2:21 am ET

It is kind of amazing how all these Jon & Kate haters show up at every turn. If you despise the show and what it stands for, then STOP watching it. It seems kind of obsessive!
I don't have a question, but wanted to say that I love Jon & Kate +8, and will continue to watch the show until it is no longer on! I have learned many helpful tips from Kate. Also, It is a breath of fresh air to see a real couple with arguments, and some problems that need to be worked on. It's much better than some sugar coated "reality shows" that are not real in the least! Maybe that's why this show is so popular!
Thank you Larry for having Kate on your show tonight!


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 2:24 am ET

that many kids i mean


Mike P   February 3rd, 2009 2:28 am ET

Lisa relax, your alright.

Michelle has already been told to sit the f down and get her facts striaght. What's your problem? you must have missed my above entry, so here it is again. I think you need to sit the f down and get your facts straight missy. I don’t have a right to be upset with this lady from CA that already has 6 kids, no husband, no job , and no house, and decides to have another 8 kids? The taxpayers are paying for her kids so that actually does make it my business. She has no business putting that kind of strain on the system. She is the type of person you were addressing lady, not me! She is the one who is counting on a book/movie deal, not me. And if you find my above entry I think some other people had something to say to you miss thing.


Peggy   February 3rd, 2009 2:34 am ET

Hahaha Jon (oops sorry" Michelle" LOL) Jon strikes again. You obviously lack understanding and speaking the English language. You're also known to be notoriously bad at spelling (meat is what you eat for dinner nit wit) All this is a dead give away. Seeing the end of the gravy train Jon boy? BTW.. Tell Kate she's gone a little overboard on the plastic surgery.
I guess it doesn't matter. It's coming out of the kids pockets not yours. Or is her plastic surgery and your Botox a freebie too?


Mike P   February 3rd, 2009 2:40 am ET

Check this out, if it’s my tax dollars that are raising these kids, it is my business. This lady already has 6 kids, she has no husband/boyfriend for support, she has no job, and she has no house because she lives with her mom. Damn right it’s my business. It’s people like her that cuase the cost of living for the rest of us to go up. And just so you know, CA is getting ready to go belly up what with their 60 billion dollar deficite. And it’s people like you that ruin it for the rest of us, like “oh yeah, have a hundred kids, no problem, the taxpayers will pay for it, whatever a taxpayer is”. WAKE UP!


Laura   February 3rd, 2009 2:47 am ET

Greetings Larry:

Gimme Gimme Kate Gosselin is a poor example for your show.

How is it that they can afford a $1.3 million dollar home when they don't have jobs. Easy answer – they are earning a living off the backs of their childen.


Brandy H.   February 3rd, 2009 2:50 am ET

I have different views on 3 sets of multiples:

1. The sick, twisted baby factory in CA needs to be spayed ASAP. I heard she paid for the IVFs from a lawsuit settlement (her 1st try to set herself up for life didn't pay enough I guess) and she has used the SAME donor sperm EVERY time. This proves the quack Dr. knew of her COMPLETE situation and I think he should have to pay child support since he MADE all these babies. I wish no ill will on these 14 kids. It is not their fault and we should all pray for their healthy upbringing – without their mother! Give up your kids and get a job, but PLEASE NOT in your field of study – early childhood education! I know CA is going to pay for her and the Dr's stupidity. Here in VA we pay for irresponsible mothers who have tons of kids with just as many fathers. Why don't we have outrage for the welfare mom with 9 kids and 8 different dads? She's also to blame for my state paying for her sexual freedom and lack of birth control.

2. Jon & Kate's show is great, the kids are cute and adorable. However, I feel Kate does (at times) speak rudely to Jon (but he doesn't seem to mind so it's not such a big deal). I'm sure Mady and Cara are getting crap at school (maybe they like it, maybe they don't) and I hope the school is also trying to protect them. Yes, at the time of their IVF and delivery, BOTH parents were sustainly employed and both continued to work. Now they still work, actually now the entire family works together (for TLC – which is still a job). How would people feel if the kids stayed with sitters so Jon & Kate could work 2 jobs, then we would say they were being neglectful to their kids by working so much. Good for Jon & Kate for being such savvy business people. They lived within their means for a few years saving TLC's money until they felt the need (for their kids, not Kate's greed) to move into a bigger house.

3. All 4 of my neices are products of IVF. My sister was on fertility treatments for 8 years BEFORE they gave in to IVF. She and her husband DID NOT want multiples because of the physical, mental and emotional toll (NOT because they can not love multiples). The first 3 implants of 2 embryos did nothing. Then the Dr. suggested they try 3 embryos. 1 took – a healthy daughter. 2 more tries at 2 embryos – nothing again. The agreed this last implant of the remaining 3 embroys would be their final attempt for another child. All 3 took – 3 healthy girls. And just to make sure they would only have 5 children, both parents fot "fixed" (listen up CA).

For the people who say if you can't get pregnant naturally God doesn't intend on you having kids. That's BS. God intended for ALL women to have children, however, not all women's bodies are capable of this.

IVF is great for those who NEED it (not those who abuse it – I do hope good regulation comes quickly). The first American test-tube baby was born down the street here at Eastern VA Medical School and God bless all the miracles born since.


Missy   February 3rd, 2009 3:26 am ET

First of all the Duggers were out of debt before thay ever had a show, and they have several properities they rent out, so TLC has not paid for any thing they already had, such as their new house, they was already building that befre they got on t.v. and a big also, their kids are God given, not artificially made. big difference.
Jon and Kate have nothing to do with the woman in Calif, and they had help in the beginning, but they are taking care of them selves now, with the show, or love offerings or from large corp's, at least it is not the tax payers,
This mom in Calif, really needed a Dr, she just got the wrong kind, The Ca, courts ought to make it impossible for her to ever have any more kids, and impossible for the state to support her once those babies go home,
Welfare was never designed for a life style, it was to help ppl who would help them selves over a hump, how can she ever do any thing. her excuse will always be I have too many babies to take care of,
The lady Dr on Larry King is stupid, she said the mom will need all the support she can get from the community and family, and the grandparents, well there you have it the grandparents,This mom is not fit to be a mom, how could she just keep on having babies knowing there is no dad and no money, b/c she knew some one would bail her out, well I hope for the tax payers of Ca, that she does get a show, or you ppl will be taking care of her kids the rest of your life, The state ought to step in and take those babies, no thats not mean thats protecting the babies and the other 6, if a parent can not take care of their own kids they shouldn't have them, Any way you defenders of her look at it she is wrong, she is a sick women and is not a fit mother.


Beenthere   February 3rd, 2009 3:50 am ET

RE; michelle

Dear Michelle, I want to tell you something about myself. I was born to a politician who used my very birth to help his re-election. The first 8 years of my life was spent under the camera's and public's eye. My family could not go to the grocery store, school, church or even in our own backyard without cameras and reporters in our faces. There were some really lovely photos taken of my siblings and myself and some ugly ones. Like the one of me falling down and getting stomped on due to a reporter knocking me off my feet to get to my father... I was four years old at the time.

So Michelle, I do have a bit of insiders knowledge of what the sweet Gosselin children go through on a daily basis. I lived it for 8 years daily and the next 5-6 years off and on again. I know what they are going through, so I feel I may speak out on their behalf.

Also Michelle, since I myself have lived such a life, I chose to not allow the same thing happen to my children. Because of who my father was, my children were now going to be in the lime light. But I stopped it before it ever got more than a blurb in the local paper. So would anyone accept the life that the Gosselins have forced onto their children? No way in all that is holy would I ever let my sons suffer through that. There is not enough money or free gifts/vacations to sell my sons.

Michelle, not everyone can be bought and sold. Maybe you can, but my family is just to precious to do that. And remember, there is no such thing as a free lunch.... everything comes with strings attached.

Think about Michelle, how much is your or your child's ife worth? My life, my husband's and our sons' lives are not for sale.


lisa   February 3rd, 2009 4:44 am ET

michelle, check out their website. you can meet them all over the place. go for it. thanks to mike p. and michelle, are you related?


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 5:36 am ET

so then you must be a fan of the show ... oh how wonderful :D


michelle   February 3rd, 2009 5:52 am ET

and mike for your information I never once talked about this lady with the 14 kids... maybe you should re-read the comments. But wait . isn't social services there for people. Maybe If people were more compassionate in your country than you wouldn't be such an ass.


Susan c.   February 3rd, 2009 6:21 am ET

Kate Gosselin is the worst one to set as an example. Her face dropped when someone said the oct. mom is going to make money off her kids. That is what Gosselin does. She is also a horrible cold narcissistic bordline mother.


Karma   February 3rd, 2009 8:04 am ET

OK, let me get this straight...

A ministers daughter in Pennsylvania, herself a registered nurse and a self proclaimed God squad member, married an IT guy who was the son of a local dentist. Sounds like a stable, successful union of 2 hard working, over achievers destined to carve out their piece of the American pie, right?

Well, after a few months of middle class bliss, and a shady diagnosis, the couple decided to skip the whole "God's will" thing and get themselves some fertility treatments.

The result; twin girls.

A few months go by and again, to hell with "wait'n for God's plan", "he has a plan for us, ya know", we want us some more babies. "More expensive, dangerous fertility treatments please." (think Ovaltine commercial)

Bada bing, 6 kids, preemies, major headlines!

I live in Atlanta and I remember the story. Almost from the second the placentas hit the floor, the Mom was asking for....stuff.

It started with ice in those little hospital cups, an extra towel, can I take home the robe? I need car seats, I don't have enough bibs. Get me some slippers!

The adorable Pennsylvania hamlet, the beaming Grandfather's congregation and the entire state rallied behind the young couple and saw to it that babies were fed, laundry was done, floors were vacuumed and bills were paid.

(Bills paid? hey wait, we might be onto something here, baby daddy! get in here!)

Tons of diapers, donated. Groceries measured by truckloads, donated. Clothing, donated.

State medicaid paid for a home nurse for a year. Pennsylvania set up college funds and the Governor himself took the time to task his subjects; give and give often, let it be decreed!

Now, we're all good up to this point, I can even get over the whole "skip God's will and pump me full of chemistry thing". Those babies were awful cute! and hey, at least the young couple was happy and appreciative of the sacrifices and love offerings, right?........screeeeech

No, the nurse should stay longer than a year, like forever. The tuition's should be comp'd, the renovation of the tidied home was horrendously horrific. The house was too small anyway, and we need a van! Family members were cast aside for failing to "understand" the needs of this, now famous, clan of 10.

(famous?, hey wait a minute)

The IT guy, well about this time he got fired, so I guess the former IT guy, set up a family website. Adorable pictures of the babies, favorite scriptures and oh yea, this is what we need; cash, and wal-mart/target gift cards, you know for our basic needs (go back up and read about the part where I talked about the stuff they got).

(hey, don't forget about the damn van!)

Sure would make a neat story, you know one of those documentaries; Babies screaming, want'n stuff, throwing tantrums. Strangers handing them toys. I said BABIES doing that, get up and comb your hair!

Anyway, Discovery sends a crew up there and does a one-off, peak into a day or two of the harried life of, well, by now a pretty comfortable unemployed baby momma and her awkward, frightened son/husband.

(OMG, look at the hits on our site, did you check the mail today? my God is an awesome God!)

IT guy got a new job with the state! amazing!

Of course we'll do more shows, in fact we'll move into a bigger house. In fact in the new house we'll let you put in permanent lighting fixtures so you can film...alot.

(Ted Danson got how much?)

Trips, vehicles, plastic surgeries, dental procedures, free food, volunteers, more trips, more clothes.

But at least the lady is happy, appreciative and treats her family and the volunteers with respect.....screeeeech

Snarking, sniping, yelling, hitting, correcting, degrading, bemoaning.

I work the hardest, I'm the smartest, I'm in control. organic only. I do lists!

(lets see.. I should fabricate a human element, to be relatable, I know, I'll have OCD, yea, a clean freak! that's a totally cool malady; built-in high standards!)

OK, after 4 years, the website keeps asking for stuff, the Ted Danson money is getting closer, corporate sponsors; kmart, juicy juice, tide, etc... ready to cash in on the whole, "mombie/ OCD" thing, line up and the ladies hair gets oddly striped?

(but wait, we cant keep asking for wal-mart cards, kmart will be pissed. I know, lets do the whole Tammy Faye church thing, they'll totally pay us! just ixnay on the whole fertility thing, we still need a van!)

The website wish list gives way to speaking engagement lists.

(hey, leave the link there, just in case we have a repeat giver)

A speaking fee, a love offering or 2 and for $20.00 (cash!) you can take a picture with the IT guy.

Well, ok, now the Christian element would surely ground the dysfunctional duo, right?.....screeech!

(honey, I don't think I want that job anymore, can I stay home, I'll bring in your coffee, 8ish?)

Hair plugs, tummy tucks, spa days, more trips, more......stuff

(hey, you think that rich lady will write a book for me, I'll be her friend!)

So, after book deals, Danson-like TLC money, speaking fees, appearance fees, mulitple bles$ings, yada freakin yada....

(this house is too small and the neighbor looked at me today, society must do something about this!)

1.1 million, 1.3 million, does it matter? The unemployed,

(our show is our life our life is our show)

surgically altered couple move up to the east side, a deeluxe mansion in the skyyye.

So, on a day when 71,000 Americans lost jobs, what does TLC air? 30 minutes of this ungrateful, spiteful woman pretending to clean a built-in double refrigerator while her 4 year olds randomly poop and ask for help wiping. The former IT guy mumbles past on his way to his "outbuildings", apparently searching for his spine.

(he cant keep up with anything)

she say's as she stares at him through the albino zebra, striped bangs.

Well?, do I have the gest of it? I've only seen one epi$ode.


Julie   February 3rd, 2009 8:11 am ET

To read about the true Kate, go to the Gosselinswithoutpity.blogstop.com website. Kate is a money hungry fraud who has alienated all of her family and friends. She's rarely home because she's too busy traveling to promote their book.


Susan c.   February 3rd, 2009 8:17 am ET

Hey Michelle, you are obviously retarded because you wrote "make ends meat" . Helloooooo meat is something you eat ahole. You are probably a pre teen or teen as those are the ages who support the insane Gosselins.


Sonny Gooden   February 3rd, 2009 8:51 am ET

I'm confused
WHERE IS THE NEW HOUSE??
I see the new house on TV
It has a Northern landscape
I thought they were moving to a warmer climate?

anyone?


Sandra   February 3rd, 2009 9:39 am ET

This show (Jon and Kate pus 8) has taken an ominous turn and should be removed. Given the economic climate in this country it is out of touch, offensive and makes me angry. The original story was nice, but now there's a 1.3 million dollar home, Kates personal chef, personal assistant, paid for child care and Jon has no job. How is this relevant now? They have become money grabbing people and this sickens me. There is a sense of entitlement here – and people in this country who don't use their children as cash cows are strugging. AND they are dishonest about this on the show. These kids are being exploited..poor Mady is certainly feeling the effects of this. Stop interviewing this woman as an expert. She isn't one and has become a victim of her own greed. I personally will no longer watch this show. TLC listen to your viewers!!!


alba   February 3rd, 2009 9:56 am ET

Why is Kate such a lazy piece of sh..?? Why is she sooo obnoxious and rude and insane and insensitive..... she is a waste of space on this earth. Go away Kate. You are a freeloading, no good mother!


K.T. Allison   February 3rd, 2009 10:03 am ET

I think that since the fans are the supporters of the Jon and Kate plus 8 show that they have a right to have questions answered. Kate and Jon opened up their lives to the general public and should have some responsibility about answering what the general public wants to know most.
1. Our Parents-why no relationship?
2. What really happened with Aunt Jodi?
3. Where is Beth Carson all of a sudden?
4. How can a family afford a multi million dollar home and neither parents have a job?
5. Why is Kate so mean and cruiel to her husband?


Deb G.   February 3rd, 2009 10:03 am ET

Sonny, the new house is widely blogged about and is said to be located in Wernersville, Pa. (Bucks County) These reports state the house listed for 1.3 mil.


CAS   February 3rd, 2009 10:12 am ET

Sonny,
The new house is in Wernersville, PA. It is on Heffner Road. As Jon would say "Awesome!" Is'nt is just AWESOME!
We live on Heffner Road. We are just like Hugh Hefner! Ya know, the one who owns PLAYBOY!
Yep! We pimp out our children and he pimps out beautiful women. Um, ain't it AWESOME?
There is a lot of money when you can be a pimp! It's just AWESOME!


Julianna, Biloxi, MS   February 3rd, 2009 10:19 am ET

Kate Gosselin is an expert on making money off her kids. It was so obvious that so far, she has spent her millions on face lifts, professional hair-cuts with highlights (ala Victoria Beckham), plastic surgery on her body, veneers for her teeth, tanning, expensive clothes. Man, she REALLY knows how to 'work' those kids! Plus, did someone mentiona multi-million dollar house? What fool is still sending these people money????


oneofsix   February 3rd, 2009 10:19 am ET

Karma,
that was freakin' awesome.


Tom   February 3rd, 2009 10:20 am ET

Sonny,
Just 'google' it. There are various websites that have links to the new PimpPalace.


Mary   February 3rd, 2009 10:32 am ET

Please, please, ask this woman (Kate Gosselin) why she feels it's alright to earn a living off of her children's backs.


twinmom   February 3rd, 2009 10:49 am ET

I cannot believe they bought a 1.3 million home and said it was for the kids! I think it is terrible the way they exploit those kids for money.
Total greed and glutney! They should be ashamed!!


Cecile   February 3rd, 2009 10:51 am ET

KARMA!!! you are a genius!! LOVED reading your blog....this is the show to a T! My son and I USED to watch the Gosselins but noticed over time how Kate belittles everyone. I felt so bad for the guys installing the blinds at the last house! I was channel surfing the other night and saw her in the kitchen of the mansion waving her hand and saying...."mine, all mine" about the property and I was very happy we had tuned out awhile back. It's old news now and hopefully won't be long before folks will ask if someone remembers the show.....and they won't have a clue what it was. Great writing Karma!


rnmom   February 3rd, 2009 11:32 am ET

From its inception, I enjoyed J&K + 8 because the values that J & K seemed to embrace were very similar to mine. However the tummy tuck, the hair plugs and now the multimillion $ home make me ask if J&K's value really parallel mine. And the request for the "love offerings" after the purchase of that home was at best insulting.

Come on TLC its time to scale this show back and not glamorize the "entitlements" that the family situation has been afforded by the sextuplets.


Disgusted   February 3rd, 2009 12:01 pm ET

Simple Facts:
#1 The Gosselins show started out interesting and sweet. They seemed to doing the best they could to provide for their children. They both WORKED real jobs. What we didn't know was that the state was paying for a nurse for them when NONE of the children had special needs.
#2 The money has gone to the parents heads and they now feel like they deserve special treatment and that they are celebrities.....at the expense of their innocent CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kate yells at and demeans her husband AND her children!
HOW on God's green earth can her fans be ok with that?!?! Unless they treat their husbands and children the same way.
WAKE UP people!!!! She's already run all of her family and friends out of her life and her poor kids are paying the price.
Look at the twins faces. Do they look and act happy?!?!?!
They are miserable.

Question to Kate:
When are you going to stop being a witch to everyone around you and start acting like the Christian you claim to be?
You are doing nothing but harm to your husband and kids and your family. Do something about it before it's too late. You'll regret it later in life when everyone despises you. It's not too late to change!


Karen   February 3rd, 2009 12:24 pm ET

It is time that Larry King asks Kate Gosselin some hard questions:

-Why was it that you resorted to taking fertility drugs so quickly without even being married for more than a year?

-Why were you so quick to use modern science to get pregnant but so unwilling to trust in modern science's advice to reduce the 7 fetuses when the doctors deemed it a danger?

-Why do you insist that you raised all the children up yourself when you obviously had tons of help from volunteers?

-Why did you insist on having "love offerings" sent out to each church goer at your speaking engagements when the governer of PA had already established TAP funds for the children's college education.

Lastly,
-Why do you think it is okay to sell your children's privacy and childhood for entertainment?


Deb G.   February 3rd, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Karma, OMG, what a masterpiece ! Your written equivalent of a montage of the show was brilliant. There is only one part that I didnt understand, the Ted Danson thing. What's up with that?


Paige Peters   February 3rd, 2009 12:57 pm ET

It's interesting this chain of conversations and comments....there is an awful lot of aggression and hostility.

My husband and I are parents of multiples and it is a difficult task to raise multiples. My husband and I were both unemployed for over a year, my husband recently became employed two weeks ago and it was really tough to accept assistance from others. We were grateful just to have health insurance with his new job.......When you are trying to look out for the best interest of your kids, that's all that matters. I think unless your a parent of multiples its difficult to understand.

My only "criticism" (if it is even that) is that the Gosselin's are supposed to be church going people, who are tolerant and patient. However, we stopped watching the show a few months ago because of Kate's sharp tongue at Jon.

I know patience is not my virtue, especially at the end of a long day with multiples and everything else involved in running a home, but I think Kate might want to be a little kinder and gentler when speaking with Jon. After all...when the kids are gone to school, the tv cameras are gone, and its just the two of them in an "empty" house, what will be left of their marriage if she continues to speak to him in that manner? You can only kick a man so many times and sometime he's going to kick back or just go away.

Just use gentler words Kate, I know its hard, trust me I want to "throttle" my husband sometimes too. :)

Take care.


Disgusted   February 3rd, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Karma- No! You didn't miss a THING honey.
You've got this couple down PAT!

They give a new definition to the word "greed" and "unappreciative" and "rude", just to name a few.
For a "Christian" couple, they display some of the most "Un-Christian" like behavior I've ever seen.
So much for "What Would Jesus Do?" with them, huh?
I personally don't think he'd be very proud. But that's just me.


Karin   February 3rd, 2009 1:38 pm ET

Kate – If you're so grateful for all the blessings you and your family have received, how come you don't show it? Give me a 1.3 million dollar house and you can bet I won't be scrubbing the refrigerator for 4 hours.


Sonny   February 3rd, 2009 1:57 pm ET

Thanks Deb G. for the info
I'm new at this.
I noticed there are no pictures on TV
of the whole outside of the house
maybe for security reasons?
How many acres is that place?

I watch the program every Monday
and have noticed caras sadness too
Maddy is out of control with her mouth
to her parents
and very mean spirited to the other kids.
She sems to lash out at them more and more.
Kate said the twins are in sports now
maybe that will help Cara's self confidence?
In a question and Answer episode
Kate also says her full time job as well as Jon's -is TLC now.
The have book signings, website upkeep
speaking engagements an the show itself .
That is their job.
Maybe that is why Jon never went back to work?

I hate to say it as I loved theh show but
I cringe now
watching Jon scurry from room to room
to keep up with Kates demands.
She seems easily angered an distracted.
This makes me hesitant to watch another episode.

Dunno

I'm losing faith here..

ps
Where is a good blog to visit?


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 2:53 pm ET

To Karma and some of you other blog novelists. A blog comment is not supposed to be ten pages long. Make your point and close. Are you stuck on stupid?


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 2:55 pm ET

I heard Hell has an excellent blog, why don't you visit it?


REBECCA   February 3rd, 2009 3:00 pm ET

Notice how every one of their children ....LOOK LIKE HIM! ...Shows how strong the Asian genes are. ..Interesting.......


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Oh no that is not because he is Asian. They got a hold of a tube of Crazy Glue and rubbed it on their eyelids. Ah so!


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 3:12 pm ET

To Karin: Please don't tell me you spend 4 hours scrubbing your refrigerator. That is so gross !


Mrs. T   February 3rd, 2009 3:12 pm ET

For all of the posters who believe that Jon and Kate Gosselin were employed when the six babies were born – they were not. By their own admission, as recently as Jon's interview in Utah, Jon was fired due to insurance problems with his employer (employer denies that – states Jon just stopped showing up for work), and Kate was unemployed because of the pregnancy. I can't believe the people who still buy into these two and their lies . . . .


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:21 pm ET

Kate Gosselin EXPOITS her kids to make herself RICH! The kids are misbehaved, hit each other and are disrespectful. Kate acts this way towrds the kids and Jon, her husband. Kate, i want to know how you rationalize buying a mullion dollar house on money made BY YOUR KIDS!!!! THe twins, esp Mady HATE the cameras. They are working actors. Why aren't they covered by child exploitation laws?? You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!


Sonny   February 3rd, 2009 3:30 pm ET

sailormansea

There are questions and discussion here
Why are you so hateful?
seems you have issues that go beyond a simple reality show.
No one should be that angry
an you think Kates is out of control??
sheesh
what a sad person you are.

can you take it somewhere else?


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:33 pm ET

How does Kate explain crying that she is so poor, after numerous paid for trips with a family of 10? How do you explain buying a million dollar house with "love offerings" made to your kids, when thousands are losing jobs daily?

How do you feel that you were an "example" for the octuplet mom. She wants a tv show and millions to exploit her kids?
DISGRACE


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:36 pm ET

WHEN DID KATE AND JON GO FROM "JUST TRYING TO GET BY" TO EXPLOITING YOUR KIDS ON TV TO BUY A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED

Also, whay has happened to Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin, once very inportant in the kids' lives?


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:37 pm ET

Larry,
I would like to know why Kate thinks she shoudl have had the state of Pa. pay for baby nurses past the 1st year, when she was getting tons of help from volunteers and tons of money from people FOOLED by her game?


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:40 pm ET

Kate,
It has been reported that your doctoe would not inseminate you because your produced too many eggs. It's been said that you ignored doctor's recommendation and went home and got pregnat with the sextuplets the "old fashioned way". How can you rationalize doing such a dangerous and selfish deed when you claim you wanted "just one more"?


Allissa summer   February 3rd, 2009 3:42 pm ET

Mr. King,

Please do not give Kate Gosselin any more publicity. If you watch her show, you will see that she is a disrespectful, greedy woman using her multiples to get rich. Putting her on the show will give other crazy women like her and the "octuplet mom" the idea to breed huge "litters" of babies to get freebies from the govt, people and tv!

PLEASE don't condone this woman


WVMom   February 3rd, 2009 3:46 pm ET

I too watch John and Kate every week and have noticed that all they do is travel now or off the cuff comments made as to how easy it is for them to travel now that they do it so often. A typical family cannot do this, a typical family does not have GAP to provide free clothing to their children, let alone all of the other freebies. This show has turned to the freebie hour and even my 8 year old son has noticed. This show "promotes" freebies for having multiples and last weeks birth of 8 babies is a prime example of the problems that this is going to cause. Life isn't fair nor is it "free" and shows on TLC are masking reality.


Jen   February 3rd, 2009 3:55 pm ET

I think their is a difference between the single mom who just had 8 more kids and Jon and Kate...obviously! My beef is that, Jon and Kate are different people now than they where back when their 6 where born. Fame has gone straight to Kate's head. She has TOTALLY changed. I use to love watching the show back when coupon-clipping was a part of life for them. Then the vacations started to happen regularly, and Kate's attitude started changing. She's meaner to the kids and Jon than ever. I agree that it's great they found a way to make money to have both parents home to raise their kids, however they are hardly home anymore, at least Kate's not. I think eventually the show will dwindle away. At least i hope it will for the kids sake, do they go on vacatoin with out cameras?


marcia laberteaux   February 3rd, 2009 4:45 pm ET

I have a message for the Jon & Kate + 8 " MEGA FANS " out there. You are the same lot that just loves Martha Stewart and Doctor Laura also. Now pay attention, I know that that's hard for you BUT these are BAD PEOPLE ! ! ! Kate, Martha and Dr. Laura and the rest of their ilk, are rude, mean,self-loving money-grubbing BLOCKS OF ICE ! ! ! Are you wearing blinders of God's sake ? ? ? If you must show an un-dying love for someone, why don't you try being realistic and give praise to a research scientist who at this moment maybe coming upon a cure ( perhaps for cancer ) to help you, your children or grandchildren in the un-knowable future ! ! ............But I doubt that this will happen. You just love to idolize the arrogant, the " puffed-up " ones who depend upon your complacency and lack of common sense to continue your worship of them. .......and for the record, Kate has sold her poor kids down the river. I just hope in time they'll be able to swim back wholly un-scathed ! Signed, Disgusted


Cheryl   February 3rd, 2009 4:46 pm ET

Go to gosselinswithoutpity.com. I found this site after I started to watch what used to be a light hearted fun little peak into the Gosselin's unique world, to what is now nothing but a huge advertisement of a show that offer a "storybook" view of what you too might be able to have if you are willing to have a litter and show them off for all to view and exploit. The icing on the cake for me was when they showed yet another vacation paid for by advertisers to Hawaii. Of course they needed to get married again, why not, it was free. I know Katr probably thinks that we are all jealous, maybe we are. But more than jealous, we are now genuinely concerned for the future mental health of these "marketable" children you say you have. It is not very christian of you to step on the backs of your family and friends to make a buck. God will judge you sooner than later.


Mike P   February 3rd, 2009 4:58 pm ET

I have to agree with sailormansea,

Jon and Kate, even if they could afford that many kids, have undeniably made a specticale of themselves and their kids. I don't watch the show, but from what I have read here, the money has gone to their heads. Watching somebody get so much attention and financial security from having so many kids, it tells people that they can do the same thing, and hope for the same result. My example is this lady from CA. Now this jobless, homeless ( still lives w/ mom ) woman who does'nt even have a partner in all this (husband/boyfriend ) is obviously counting on a book/movie deal. It's just not right OK people.


Barbara Izadi   February 3rd, 2009 5:03 pm ET

There is a simple solution to everyones gripe about the woman in California and the Gosslins. Don't watch any show that this California woman might have and quit watching the Gosslins. No viewers, no show. All the people that watch Jon & Kate plus 8 have made them get to where they are now. The viewers have made them rich and if you are one of those viewers; quit griping. They used to say that love makes the world go round but how wrong that saying is because money has made this world go round and will continue to do so and anyone that can and do get on that merry-go-round do so and we the viewers give them their riches. Plain and simple.


fxfanatic   February 3rd, 2009 5:20 pm ET

Michelle.
Nice try.


Ephrata Mom   February 3rd, 2009 5:31 pm ET

The Jon & Kate (or KON as they are called) ... for a reason!! Because they are con artists. Jon hid trust fund assets and quit his job to get the state of Pennsylvania to pay for assistance when the children were born. Who has fertility treatments at the age of 25?? KON artists. Now that TLC has bitten their hook, they get free clothes, free vacations, free hairplugs, free tummy tuck, free North Carolina vacation rental, free trip to Disneyland, free visit (behind the scenes) to the Pittsburgh Zoo. Wake up folks!! Both of them are capable of working for a living and supporting their family, but it's much easier being celebrities and having everything given to you free. Kate travels extensively (alone) to book signings, NYC, Los Angeles, business trips ... watch a few of the shows and you'll see no parental oversight in that family. Now with a $1.3 million house (plus grounds and a pool to take care of), who do you think will be watching the kids? Organic personal chef? maybe. Full time nanny? for sure. Kate and Jon? only when the cameras are rolling. It is laughable how so many are deceived into thinking this is "reality" tv with a coupon-clipping mom. HA!! It's scripted folks, and set up to tell a story. Line forms on the left to buy their books, get an autograph, buy a photo of the family ... KON is laughing all the way to the bank.

I have tremendous sympathy for the children and their future life, being raised by the Greedy Gosselin parents.


Mary from Maine   February 3rd, 2009 5:36 pm ET

I'm trying hard to figure out why any of you care how many children the Gosselin's have!
They are not on welfare, it's not costing you a dime, they are not your neighbor therefore it can't be a noise issue, you don't have to wait in line behind them in the store, your kids don't go to the playground with them and wait for the swing. Kate is organized, loving, warm, and educated. Her house and kids are spotless, her marriage is sound and they are managing all of the kids and their needs.

You all sound unbelievably jealous!

Please...explain your issue...why the heck do you care how many children this couple have?


Ephrata Mom   February 3rd, 2009 5:45 pm ET

Their new house is in Berks County, Pennsylvania.
298 Heffner Road, Wernersville

Former house was on Andrew Avenue in Elizabethtown. Neighbors despised them. No neighbors at the new place ... land as far as the eye can see. They have their money to keep them company. Oh, and the new house is in a trust. I guess the "love offerings" weren't going to cover the tax man.


Brenda   February 3rd, 2009 5:47 pm ET

Allissa summer, you go girl. I completely agree with you. I'm not sure who commented that they would rather see Jon speak but I am with her. The only reason I wouldn't is I do not want him to be come so full of himself like Kate has. Jon is all those beautiful children have.


Missy   February 3rd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Heres a family with some real class,
Chris and Diamond Harris, they had 1 son, 7 yrs later they had 6 more children, some have some real health problems, but they are a happy family, Mr Harris is a full time worker and his wife works, they give thanks to their fanmilies for all the support they get,
They are so loving and you can see it on the childrens faces, they "DO NOT LIVE IN A MANSION" you shoulsd google it , it will make your day brighter, these are parents to be proud of, kinda like the Iowa family, Yeah! Go Iowa
So there you go Mr Larry King, Have them on your show, let them tell the new mom of 8 how rough/easy it can be, They know with out all TLC and corporate co's help, just loving family and friends and their own church family, Now this is reality ppl.


fxfanatic   February 3rd, 2009 6:02 pm ET

***I’m sure Mady and Cara are getting crap at school (maybe they like it, maybe they don’t)***

Oh, how thoughtful! Most 8 year old kids just LOVE getting crap.
---
Karma- One episode? REALLY? You are smarter than the fans of the show who still find this family to be "inspiring" and "real".
I totally don't get the Ted Danson reference. Can you explain?
Your perception is hilarious and 100% true.
**(this house is too small and the neighbor looked at me today, society must do something about this!)*** thanks for the laugh.
--
Karen – GREAT questions. You nailed it!


fxfanatic   February 3rd, 2009 6:06 pm ET

***Kate is organized, loving, warm, and educated.***

That is the funniest thing I've read all day.


Cheryl   February 3rd, 2009 6:16 pm ET

Mary from Maine, We care about what the Gosselin's are doing because it is ultimately showing a fictional storybook version of what it is really like to care for this litter of children. The concern here is that people who might not be in the best mental or financial frame of mind (i.e. OctoMom) might view the show and think this vcould be a way out of poverty or their own sick way of getting attention. You are missing our points of view I think.


Kristen   February 3rd, 2009 6:22 pm ET

Some of us care about what the Gosselins are doing because it's presenting a skewed "reality" about HOMs being a meal ticket, and inspiring people like this Suleman woman to pop out unaffordable kids for the $$.


Cheryl   February 3rd, 2009 6:25 pm ET

Do you really think they'd be living it up if they didn't have the money from the show and the advertising kickbacks, and the vacations. I am not sure everyone realises that. I would say that in reality they would be under enormous financial pressure with all the help from everyone.


Trish   February 3rd, 2009 6:38 pm ET

Okay, I've read all of the blogs and they're getting a bit mean – just like Kate. Who wouldn't want a free tummy tuck or have your children experience Disneyworld, Hawaii, a beautiful house with lots of room to grow, or to ensure that they will go to college. Come on. Does this mean I like Kate. NO! Her voice is like fingernails on a chalk board to me. (Although she does make me look like the best wife on earth!) I don't blame her for allowing these "gifts" to be given to her and her family. What woman out there wouldn't want a personal trainer or personal chef (if she in fact has these luxuries as one blogger alleges).

People are right. Stop watching the show, buying the "love Kate books" or otherwise supporting TLC/Gosselins and maybe then the Gosselins will go away. I discourage my children from watching the show and encourage them to watch Little People, Big World or the Duggars. Ms. Duggar is a breath of fresh air compared to Kate.

To Kate: was cleaning out the fridge at your new home really the most vile and disgusting thing you've ever seen? Seriously? That is the episode I told my kids enough – no more Jon & Kate + 8.


Kristen   February 3rd, 2009 6:52 pm ET

Kate should feel threatened:

TLC President Eileen O’Neill said production companies that work with TLC have already made offers to Suleman’s family, but the network is waiting to see how TV-friendly the family is.

“We’re certainly like the rest of America; we’re waiting to see how this develops,” O’Neill said. “The number of children or scale of the multiples is intriguing, but it also comes down to what are the family’s lives like?”


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 7:55 pm ET

Hey Sonny! I am sitting on your sad face. You need to get a sense of humor and not be so pissed because I suggested the Hell Blog for you to visit. You should get over yourself and get a life.


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 8:07 pm ET

Hey Sonny, Why does it take 6000 words to express your incompetent point. What a sorry brainless zombie you are. A blog is for everyone to express their point , and you taking up the whole page is just selfish just like I suspect you are. By the way, unless your friggin name is Ted Turner, I really don't care what you think anyway. You are egocentric and I tend to say you think you have the right to tell others not to voice their own opinion. You suck out loud so stick that in your pipe and smoke it you pompous ass!


Angie   February 3rd, 2009 8:13 pm ET

To everyone this is not the same thing with John and Kate with that crazy lady in CA. John and Kate wanted to have just one more and yeah they ending up with 6. But you know what they do a lot of things on their own. With kate always trying to save money for the family. This lady in CA is just nuts. 14 kids with no help or money.


robin   February 3rd, 2009 8:25 pm ET

wow arent we getting a bit testy with comments today. People cant express themselves without abuse from other posters?


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 8:25 pm ET

What a Poof-tah you are Sonny!


Cheryl   February 3rd, 2009 8:41 pm ET

I feel that in light of all the attention that J&K are now getting because of the now famous "OctoMom", it is their (meaning TLC & J&K) obligation to speak the truth to the public about how their "financial blessings" have come only through the explosure they have received through this show. I truly fear that this show has now created a "false" image of what "you too" can get if you have a litter, and I also fear that nut case folks out their will become desparate enough to actually follow the trend in hopes of becoming wealthy and famous.
I hope they realize what they have created!!


Susan   February 3rd, 2009 8:52 pm ET

I read that the Gosselins want $25,000.00 per interview and first class tickets...did LKL pay this to Kate for her to appear on his show?


Kim   February 3rd, 2009 8:59 pm ET

Soooo, I am a little afraid to say because of all these frustrated posts, but I actually like this family and think Kate and Jon have a lot of love for eachother. I have not seen the show in recent months so I do not know of this new house...And I hear rumors about how money hungry they are but I don't really take the time to investigate I guess. This is what I do know. I am not religious or anything like these people, but it brings a little bit of happiness to my heart to think they sit their kids down at the table and eat, and do activities together, and that a married couple is in it together until the end. I am tired of seeing sex driven television and foul language and violence on tv. If the worst thing this family ever did was take advantage financially and get what they could while they had the chance, then I am thinking they are really not all that bad. I think maybe we should look at how we are raising our own children, and look at how angry we are –enough to post and be hateful to people who are raising kids and living good. What is the worst thing you ever did??? Did you ever make a decision?? Do you really believe these kids are being harmed?? I too see some faults in their ways, but I see more goodness than anything. Some of these posts are so angry you would think these kids were being raped or something. Live and let live..What are your kids doing while you are surfing online and taking the time to post these hateful, time consuming blogs, and find out what horrible thing Kate has done now. God forbid she yell at her husband.. I know I am always perfect with my tone. Come on people...Pull it together. Go live and find a way to make the world better instead of tearing it apart more with these hateful judgments. JON AND KATE–you are ok in my book...


Elizabeth Romo   February 3rd, 2009 9:03 pm ET

Fertility experts have said that the young California mother of octuplets should never have been implanted with eight embryos. Was it necessary for you to be implanted with such a large number as well considering your young age?


Anne   February 3rd, 2009 10:10 pm ET

I am commenting on Nadya Suleman,
She personifies what is wrong in this country and throughout the world.
People doing things because they want to, and can, not because they can afford to.
Or taking the responsible course. These children should be taken from her.
When you open a day care you are limited to how many children you are allowed to
Take care of. There is nothing this PR woman can say that will justifies this mothers action. I hope all the babies are doing well, and wish them all the best. But I am tired of people doing irresponsible things then expect us [tax payers] to bail them out.
If this mother and others like her never ever take a dime from any of the social services,
Then it can be termed a good decision/choice .Also we as a nation need to take a good look ourselves, by aiding and abetting actions such as this we are telling our children it is ok to be irresponsible. We watch and glorify these mothers, I refuse to watch “Jon and
Kate plus 8”. How do you tell your children not to have 10-20-30 kids one after another when we glorify these actions? Then we wonder why our coulter is the way it is.
And for those who say this a hateful comment, Sometimes the truth is hurtful.


peter robinson of Hampton Ga   February 3rd, 2009 10:15 pm ET

I have a first mtge with Aurora Loan Services,Scottsbluff, NE and I've written twice to get my mortgage payment reduced to allow me to continue making and keeping my loan current. They wrote me back and said that we (my wife and I) were declined because we could not afford to make restructured mortgage payments. ??????????? I called and explained and complained that that was the reason for applying in the first place. They stated that we have a first and second mortgage (2nd with WAMU), and that are income was less than our expenses and yet we've never have been late or past due. We asked for help and got declined because we need help. We're retired from our jobs since 2003 and I work part-time. I hope the 4 percent gets passed across the broad for all mortgage holders. Funny thing is when I was working, one of the office I worked in worked to reduce mortgage companies' foreclosure rate on home owners because it became such a profitable business in property perservation after the homeowners were evicted from their properties.


Uncle Mil   February 3rd, 2009 10:26 pm ET

Use of Bailout Funds for Bonuses

Hi Larry – Bailout funds should not be used for bonuses. Bail out funds as defined are sequestered funds between taxpayer/government and the corporations for sustaining corporate viability, not incrementing income. Thus bail out money cannot be funneled into bonuses, that being a separate incremental matter between the corporation and staff. President Obama and IRS could look at tax policy & ratings to deal with thus unjust enrichment.


david h. mull, md   February 3rd, 2009 10:45 pm ET

i was dissappointed the panel spent no time discussing the cost and taxpayer ramifications of these actions. Certainly, much of the outrage stems from this primary issue. Most don't care to pass judgement on conduct or capacity to be responsible parents as long as they are financially responsible for their actions.


Kim   February 3rd, 2009 11:05 pm ET

I think that the doctor who did the IVF should have his license revoked. Nobody in their right mind would want to have 14 children BY THEMSELVES. My guess would be this woman voted for Obama seeing as how he is so hellbent on having the hard working people pay for people who refuse to work or cry that they cant get a job and all the while just sit back and keep having more babies. This woman is a disgrace to real mothers all over the world, including myself. I have two beautiful children and have worked from day one to take care of both of them. They are now 19 and 22 and I could not be prouder of them. It was hard enough trying to give two the attention that they needed because I actually worked for a living, and still do!!!There is nobody alive who can tell me that us HARD WORKING taxpayers are not going to pay for all of these 14 children AND their stupid stupid mother!!!


Sonny   February 3rd, 2009 11:05 pm ET

(david h. mull, md February 3rd, 2009 10:45 pm ET

i was dissappointed the panel spent no time discussing the cost and taxpayer ramifications of these actions. Certainly, much of the outrage stems from this primary issue. Most don’t care to pass judgement on conduct or capacity to be responsible parents as long as they are financially responsible for their actions.)

David
I couldn't agree more
I too thought they overlooked a substantial part of the equasion here.
Much of the anger/frustration here is directed at who is paying for what
and how it is being earned – ie taxes, trustfunds and the many perks an freebies allowed.

also another area overshadowed was all questions ignored or avoided on the Childrens state of mind and reality.
That's the whole reason I came here today
I wanted to see if I was imagining all the changes taking place
I see I have not.
many have the same questions as myself.

Maybe if Jon and Kate adressed some of these concerns
The anger and confusion would subside?

Nne can only hope it comes to light.
They seem to be less forthcoming.


Karma   February 3rd, 2009 11:17 pm ET

Sorry, the Ted Danson reference is from an old (maybe too old?) Seinfeld episode. George and Jerry are negotiating a deal for their series and George argues he wants "Ted Danson" money....


Kimberly   February 3rd, 2009 11:52 pm ET

I just want to know if The Mom in CA is in the country legally or illegally. Either case, the state of CA should not be burdened with her unbelivably irresponsible decision. Especially if she snucked into the country illegally.

As someone wrote earlier, people need to understand what they want and what they can afford. If you can't afford something that you want, then you don't get it. It's simple! Imagine if everybody started getting whatever they wanted and sock it to the taxpayers!!! I am so sick of working and paying taxes so that some lazy SOB can sit at home and collect welfare and foodstamps. Or keep making more babies they cannot afford because they know the taxpayers will take care of the babies that THEY should be taking care of!


sailormansea   February 3rd, 2009 11:58 pm ET

Here Here for that Kimberly!


Sharon   February 3rd, 2009 11:59 pm ET

Jon & Kate plus 8 used to be fun to watch........ How fun will the show be once most of the kids have disrespectful attitudes like Kate??

The show has lost touch with reality, it is just a commercial for vacation destinations or products.

Sorry to see them choose this route, the show could have lasted longer with better attitudes and less commericalism.


Cathi   February 4th, 2009 1:49 am ET

I know your show had to do with the octuplets and such, in which I am in disagreement with her trying to raise herself without a husband or others besides her parents she has 6 kids already !! Wake up lady. Any way it was such a joy to see Dannilynn and Larry on the show I followed the trial and her death so closely, that I feel for them both .
Thanks again for that moment.Cathi


Cathi   February 4th, 2009 2:06 am ET

I know your show had to do with the octuplets and such, in which I am in disagreement with her trying to raise herself without a husband or others besides her parents she has 6 kids already !! Wake up lady. In today's economy it's just too expensive to raise that many kids on your own and I'm sorry but we're all struggling today, and that's just not right what is she going to do when it's time for them to go college ? Who's going to pay for their medical bills and dental ? Anyway it was such a joy to see Dannilynn and Larry on the show I followed the trial and her death so closely, that I feel for them both .
Thanks again for that moment.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 4th, 2009 2:14 am ET

After reading these blogs I became very offended and sad!!! I have PCOS (poly cystic ovary syndrome) just like Kate Gosselin. I can understand the wants and desires of having a child of you and your spouse. Its heart wrenching to be told you may never have a child. I am currently seeing a fertility doctor and I am 27 years old. Some say thats too young to being seeing a fertility doctor. When you have a disorder that will prevent you from having a child fertility or adoption are the only choices. Why should a woman be criticized for trying all medical options before adopting? A woman that has PCOS has very slim to no chances of conceiving a child naturally. PCOS is a very complicated disorder but simply said you do not ovulate. Many medications are given to a woman just to treat PCOS and then you take more in order to become pregnant. Jon and Kate did nothing wrong! The doctors they saw did what they should have. With the twins Kate had IVF. IVF is invitro fertilization. This means your eggs are harvested and fertilized and placed back in you. ONLY 2 eggs should be done at a time! With the sextuplets she had IUI. This means intrauteran insemination which is when the sperm is put inside you through a small cathador like device. More eggs can become fertilized this way because unlike with IFV(where the eggs are removed) the doctor has no control of how many eggs are fertilized. Depending on your financial situation, insurance and health you would have one or the other. If your tubes are blocked or damaged a woman must have IVF. If the tubes are healthy IUI may be given. IUI is cheaper than IVF because you do not have to have your eggs harvested and stored. There is a procedure called selective reduction that can be preformed. Its like aborting some of the babies. This can be very dangerous to the mother and to the remaining babies inside, as well as being a very controversial subject. The Gosselins chose to not have the selective reduction so they became the happy parents of sextuplets. A family..or should I say a normal family does not go into fertility treatments hoping for high order multiples, you go hoping to get at least one healthy baby out of it. Im outraged that so many people have written unresearched blogs on fertility topics!!!!!!!!!!! Please people do your homework!!! I have been to one of Jon and Kates public speakings and it was very inspirational for my husband and I.( by the way when we saw them Kates sister Kendra was there too...Kates family does have contact with them!!) Jon and Kate are not looking for hand outs! Things have been given to them by donations. If I were in that situation I would take them too! Have any of you bloggers read the book Multiple Blessings??? Its very informative on fertility issues and on their life. Before you speak about this family please get all the facts!! Learn about fertility medications!! I read a blog of someone complaining about Kate having over stimulated ovaries and they couldnt believe Kate still went through with everything. Educate yourself before making remarks like that! Over stimulated ovaries are very common when taking fertility treatments! Your taking meds to stimulate your ovaries to produce eggs because your not producing them on your own. Sometimes they overstimulate and swell this can last for 1-2 weeks and may require being in the hospital. This does not mean you shouldnt continue with the treatments! It just something that happens!! Weekly ultra sounds are done to monitor this and hopefully catch it early. I would also like to comment on the blog I read that said Jon and Kate didnt have jobs!??!?!?! Are you serious?? Again people educate yourselves before blogging!! Jon worked. Kate worked. Kate was a nurse working in a hospital! She had a job when she had the twins and with the sextuplets. Of course she was placed on bed rest and had quit during that time. However after having the sextuplets and she was healthy again she did return to work part time as a nurse. But with the demands of the kids at home she decided to become a stay at home mom ( I would do the same thing!). Jon lost his job (not because he didnt show up for work...I read that dumb comment too!) because of the babies. The employer claimed they would raise insurance costs. This is true!! I know of other families with multiples (quads to be exact) where the father ,whom carried the insurance, was let go because of the same reason. Jon got another job with the government and continues to work. Now that the kids are older Kate travels sometimes and does charity work. She does a great deal for childrens cancer research! Jon stays back home with the kids. They did have a nurse that came to help them even after the babies were off everything. But why would someone find fault with that??? There were 6 premie babies in that house! A number of things could go wrong at any minute! I too would want extra care there for my tiny little miracles!!! I would do whatever it took to protect all my children and if there was extra help available I would take it too!! As far as that unresponsible mother in California, she is totally different than Kate!!! The octuplets mother was out for money and that is it!! Her and that fertility doctor were greedy !!! They both agreed to be reckless and inmoral and emplant the 8 embroys!!!! She got pregnant through IVF...which I explained above! Thats sick that any person would take Gods miracles and jeprodize their health for money...or for anything!!!! She already had 6 kids now 14 kids will suffer her stupidity!! The doctor should go to jail as well as that woman!!! I do believe it was a miracle that those babies were all healthy and the mother but I am not saying the California mother was right in what she did! So with that being said I challenge you people to get your facts straight! Think about how you would feel if you were young and told you will not conceive on your own! Respect peoples feelings and investigate situations. Children are a miracle and things happen for a reason. PCOSgirl1@yahoo.com


claudia   February 4th, 2009 2:22 am ET

I cant believe i missed kate's interview :(...anyways i love the show..and in regards to this "mother" of 14...she lives in my city..and dont think what she has done is "smart"..what's done is done..her situation is completely different from kate&jon g...this "mother" of 14 needs mental help..


Angelina   February 4th, 2009 3:34 am ET

Get Kate Gosselin off the show! She stands for greed, greed and more greed. Although not the exact situation as the California mother of octoplets, Kate also displayed greed when wanting MORE children. It's clear that her husband did not want this initially. Of course he loves the kids now, but his snide comments toward Kate clearly show he resents her greediness for more children. She's lucky she's an attractive woman and has a special interest cache, cute & addorable bi-racial children and of course her good looks, otherwise, why would we care to see a mother of 8 on TV? I seriously think this display or quick rich / greed influenced the mother in California!


Gael   February 4th, 2009 8:21 am ET

I think that everyones downing of this family is terrible. You do not know them...you know a show...you know editing. Kate and Jon and very Christian people...you are all jealous of the life that they have been given if you ask me. I think you all have a lot of nerve...are you raising 8 children? I dont think so....its the bashing people like you that have helped our country become as hateful as it has...I would love to see the manners of YOUR children.


Kristen   February 4th, 2009 8:29 am ET

Sarah From Ohio –

Again, we "fault" them for not taking the financial precautions to take care of their children at first. It's not the responsibility of the taxpayers in PA to pay for the Gosselin children, no matter what Kate thinks (and she said that society "owes" them money, since we promote the use of fertility drugs.) A RESPONSIBLE doctor would have told Kate not to have intercourse if she had seven eggs ready to go, because of the strain they are – physically, emotionally, and financially. Only six of the seven developed, but still. I have fertility issues too; we're not special snowflakes. It's not right to bring children into this world, whether a singleton or octuplets, via fertility treatments if you can't afford their proper care.


Amy   February 4th, 2009 12:09 pm ET

I agree with what Sarah from Ohio said. People need to do their research before criticizing the Gosselins. I think they are doing a wonderful job raising their children! They're doing the best they can with what God gave them and don't need any criticism from ignorant poeple! Anyone who has negative comments about the Gosselins is just jealous. Really people...get over it!


Karen   February 4th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

I used to be an avid fan of the "show", up until the point I finally realized that that's exactly what it is. A show!! Sure, it's a reality show, but still, its main purpose would be to entertain, and judging by the many comments left before me, I'm guessing that the show has been pretty successful - hence, the 1.3 million dollar home! (congrats to Jon and Kate on the excellent ratings, and thus, a newly found career on reality TV show)

Now because I know that it is just a 'show', I couldn't care less whether they received a million dollar estate, personal organic chefs, and maids, etc. However, I am very curious to find out whether Jon and Kate also agree that their family stories are now nothing more than a 'show'. If so, then whatever happened between Kate and Aunt Jodi was not at all plotted out well. Probably something that the producers failed to pick up on...?

For now, the show is still catching a lot of viewers. But I wonder how long this will continute - where do you all see this going?


Alyssa   February 4th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

I am sure she has heard it all before, but does she listen? Do you see what you are doing to your children? How much longer can this really go on! Get over yourself! Let your kids be kids. Let them get dirty, and have fun. Where are you when they are playing inside? Cleaning out the fridge that you don't even keep. Well that was a waste of four hours of you life that you could have spent with them. Oh I could go on for hours but it is a waste of my time. I think that as soon as people stop thinking how great she is that this maddness will stop. Then they will be right where the rest of america is today. Pinching pennies to make it through the week, not in their million dollar home while so many are becoming homeless.


Samantha   February 4th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

Hi Larry, I was just wondering how much the Gosselins get paid per episode of their show Jon and kate Plus 8?


Pam   February 4th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

Let's not forget the Gosselin's tried just last year to adopt a Korean girl but were told they had too many children to qualify. Was that just another "hook" to keep the show going? Stay at Home Mom Kate is never at home and even Jon mentioned during his recent Utah interview that Kate explained to him that staying home and taking care of the children was "a job". It was necessary, he said, because they felt they were neglecting their children by both of them traveling so much to church speaking engagements, proctor and gamble endorsements, book signings, free tummy tucks and hair transplants. GREAT PARENTS Larry King, please do your research before you have someone like Kate Gosselin on your show. Even one of the doctors hoped the new Oc-Mom wouldn't exploit her children for money. What makes Kate Gosselin so different????


MARY   February 4th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

i WILL NOT SUPPORT TLC OR WATCH ANY SHOWS OR SUPPORT PRODUCTS THAT DECIDES TO GIVE FREEBIES TO A MENTALLY ILL MOM THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRESPONSIBLE TO HAVE 8 BABIES WITH 6 BABIES ALREADY LIVING AT HOME. WHAT A DISGRACE. NO ONE CAN TAKE CARE OF 14 CHILDREN ALONE AND SHE IS A SINGLE MOM. I ONLY HAD ONE CHILD AND IT IS EXPENSIVE TO RAISE A CHILD. NO ONE GETS ANY HELP EXCEPT FOR SOME WHO DECIDES TO HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN. IN THIS ECONOMY IT IS NOT SMART BUT THIS METALLY ILL MOM WANTED MORE AND SHE WAS HOPING TO PROFIT BY DOING THIS. WHAT AN OUTRAGE.....AND EVERYONE...PLEASE BOYCOTT AND COMPANIES THAT DECIDE TO SUPPORT THIS CRAZY MOTHER. IT IS NOT RIGHT.


Lori   February 4th, 2009 2:05 pm ET

All of these people show a remarkable disregard for social responsibility. The planet is overpopulated already. Our country does not have the resources for public education or medical care. The Gosselins and the women in Southern California disgust me with their selfishness. If you really have to have 8 or 10 or 14 kids, how about adopting some who are already here and have no homes or families?


Jessica   February 4th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

I think it's sad that hateful, cruel and greedy people like Jon and Kate are being glorified as wonderful, loving parents. I worry about the older girls Cara and Mady, Cara is always depressed, Mady is becoming more violent and angry. Jon and Kate don't care about or love their children. They see their children as $$$$$, a way to make a fast million. Kate is cruel to her husband, if I were Jon I would file for divorce quickly, get custody of those children and run for the hills. Although Jon is just as greedy and selfish as Kate, I think the kids would be better off without Kate in their lives. I hope one day people wake up and see these people for what they really are.

Shame on Jon and Kate...shame on anyone who supports their circus act.


LindaK   February 4th, 2009 4:40 pm ET

I totally agree with the earlier comments re comparisons of the CA mom and her recent birth of 8 vs Jon and Kate. I worry about all of those 14 children because it's very clear their mother has psychological issues that should have been dealt with before this. I sincerely hope that TLC doesn't consider putting them on as another reality series.


LindaK   February 4th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

Sorry, but I forgot to mention that the doctor who implanted 8 embryos should face some professional scrutiny for his lack of ethics in this entire thing. The entire started with his willingness to allow this woman to go forward with her plan.


michelle   February 4th, 2009 4:59 pm ET

Hey Sarah from Ohio

Its useless tlaking to a crowd like this. I have PCOS too and I am 27 years old also and clearly these hillbillies don't understand what that means. Plus these people are jealous of Jon and Kate anyways. Its funny how people wanted to help them when they didn't have money and how they felt bad and blah blah and watched their show more but now because they have some money they believe them to be scum. Its just because people are jealous. Typical American way of thinking.


Jennifer   February 4th, 2009 5:59 pm ET

I love the show! I watch the episodes over and over and see something new every time!! I love it when Jon and Kate rehash the day on the couch. I wish my husband I could do that!

My question for Kate: What have you learned about yourself and Jon through this experience?


Randi   February 4th, 2009 6:09 pm ET

I cannot believe the stuff that ppl are saying on here, I believe that until you have walked in their shoes you cannot begin to understand. And those saying if you must have 8, 10, 14 kids...well as it has been explained when you have to resort to fertility that is just part of the package, they cannot determine how many children will be produced from it and yes they can do a reduction but do you realize that means abortion of some of the babies?? I bet everyone would have something to say about that too and I know I would rather chance it to have my babies be born and healthy than to make the decision to abort some of them. And if I were told I could not have children without trying fertility you can believe I would try that first before resorting to adoption. And it's to sit back and say how bad or wrong it is until you are the one told you cannot have children. And it's funny how everyone is talking about how unhealthy it is and how wrong it is but yet mothers who are addicted to drugs and such are having babies all the time and I don't hear any controversy through the media about how wrong that is and how irresponsible they are...so in conclusion, I say imagine yourself in their shoes before criticizing and condemning them! and I find it very offensive to read ppl saying that Jon and Kate don't care about or love their children...are you kidding me??? How can you say that about ppl?? You don't know them...you just see what they have you see on tv. Grow up!


Tom   February 4th, 2009 6:46 pm ET

FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE WE:
-ARE NOT JEALOUS OF JON & KATE GOSSELIN (WHY WOULD WE BE JEALOUS OF A GREEDY, CHILD EXPLOITING SHREW, AND HER GREEDY, CHILD EXPLOITING SPOUSE?)
-WE DO NOT WANT TO WALK IN THEIR SHOES!
-NO! WE WOULD NOT SELL OUR CHILDREN'S PRIVACY FOR FREE TRIPS, MILLION $ HOMES, TUMMY TUCKS, HAIR PLUGS, BOTOX, SPA DAYS, ETC, ETC, ETC!
YES WE HAVE KIDS!
DID I COVER ALL THE BASES MY FELLOW 'HATERS'?
MAYBE YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE YOU WISH YOU HAD THE BRAINS THAT WOULD LET YOU SEE THESE 2 FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE!


Nancy   February 4th, 2009 6:59 pm ET

Why would anyone be jealous of two people (Jon and Kate) who constantly exploit their children? Why would anyone be jealous of a wife who abuses her husband and belittles him? why would anyone be jealous of a narcissistic crazy woman like Kate? The list goes on and on.

Please wake up and see Jon and Kate for what they really. Scammers big time. Jon and Kate lie all the time. They all they do is lie.

Now Kate is doing Btox. What's next?


Mj   February 4th, 2009 7:09 pm ET

Lets see,

Single, living with parents, no income, and 6 children under seven years old already at home?
The fertility doctor should have his license taken away, and all the "adults" involved in this travesty should have psychiatric exams immmediately.
This world has become a place where children are a marketable commodity, not beings to love and care for. Buy them from other countries, grow them in bunches and get a reality show!!!
SICK


Nerissa   February 4th, 2009 7:13 pm ET

Hello Kate, I just want to say that I think you are doing a good job with the kids in all. The only thing is you should ask your kids to stop hitting one another....Mady seems to hit the kids all of the time..
When i was little my mom would tell us all the hitting was bad .
Even if I did something to my brother or sister... The kids should never hit no matter what....I dont care who did what...


Susan   February 4th, 2009 7:28 pm ET

I am not jealous of J&K. I would like them to tell the truth. Such as:
We are wealthy now, and live in a 1.3 million dollar estate; we have constant help with the children; we are estranged from our family; we have a chef who cooks for us; and a housekeeper who cleans for us.


Susan   February 4th, 2009 7:31 pm ET

I forgot to add: We keep the 'tups in bibs and highchairs and sippy cups so people think they are younger and cuter than they really are to keep the gravytrain going. The 'tups actually will be five in May.


Peggy Vegosen   February 4th, 2009 7:36 pm ET

Are there any grandparents in their family and,if so, where are they? I've viewed their wonderful episodes and have never seen an older family member.


Pam   February 4th, 2009 9:48 pm ET

It's clear that Nancy does not know what the meaning of narcissistic. Kate is anything but that.

Nancy....For someone that sounds like you do not like them or the show, you sure seem to know alot, NOT. If you are going to make statements, how about backing them up with the proof. What have Jon and Kate lied about? How have they scammed? Who gives a damn if she gets botox. Kudo's to her if that is made available to her.

If viewers did not have positive things to say about the show, it would have been canceled by now. It's sad that we now have copycats out there having multiples because they think they can cash in.

I have never had eight children at one time, but I'm sure it's difficult in addition to having a camera crew in your home all the time. There is no acting involved there. You can't expect people to have their game face on looking like life is perfect. They even state that it's no perfect at the beginning of EVERY show.

Turn the channel if you don't like the cast.


Pam   February 4th, 2009 10:11 pm ET

marcia laberteaux
You can't be serious, comparing Kate to Martha and Dr. Laura?
That's as stupid as listing your first and last name on a blog!


Debra   February 4th, 2009 11:47 pm ET

I missed seeing the kids Aunt Jodi and bbf Beth I did a google and was shocked to see the allegations coming from Kate's family. What have Jon and Kate lied about? Do a little research online and you will see. Kate is looking more and more like the greedy one, "all mine, all mine....as far as you can see!"

No doubt this show has taken a different direction....that is what the debate is about!!!!!


Randi   February 4th, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Of course nobody wants to walk in their shoes b/c when I say walk in their shoes I am referring to ppl who are told they cannot have kids without the help of fertility I am not referring to Jon and Kate themselves. Seems this blog could go on and on and on with all the talk about this and I think its a waste of time, ppl are going to do what they feel is best and that is their choice so why waste so much time going back and forth about it?? And on note about them cashing in on their kids, it seems ppl are willing to pay to have them come speak at places and obviously ppl were willing to pay to help them out when they needed a bigger home when they first had their kids and gave them groceries, etc. So why shouldn't they take the help that is offered them??? How they are now with all of it, I do not know cuz I do not watch the show but I am referring to when they first had their kids and were offered help.


Debra   February 5th, 2009 12:30 am ET

Call me crazy.....This blog is about Jon & Kate plus 8″commentary. "Let us know what you want to hear from Kate NOW!" Viewers want answers because we have fallen in love with those kids and if she is using them as her CASH COW, that is wrong.

I think the fertility issue should have its own blog...no one wants to walk in those shoes.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 5th, 2009 1:14 am ET

Hey michelle!! I added my email address to my first blog on here. Email me sometime!! I would love to be "pen pals"! I find it interesting talking with other women who have fertility issues/PCOS. There is nothing wrong with having a support group. There is nothing wrong is attempting to have your own child through fertility treatments either. There is time though when responsibility needs to take part. The mother of the octuplets was very iresponsible and looking to only make money. Jon and Kate were looking to make a family. Haveing 8 fertilized eggs implanted in you (IVF) is sick and wrong.

The first time I saw my first episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8 was shortly after I found out I had PCOS and may never have children. Their very first episode where the sextuplets were still babies was the first one I saw and its still my favorite. This is where the series reality shows spun off from. It gave me such inspiration and comfort to know that someone else out there had the same frustrations as me. Before the show I was the only person I knew that had PCOS. It helped me feel a sense of normality again. I love the show still today and at times get teary eyed thinking that she had the same struggles as I and now she has 8 wonderful children!!!! Jon and Kate are doing a wonderful job!! They have a TV show...shows are edited...you only see a portion of their lives!! They have accepted the things offered to them and they have given back a great deal!!! They donate alot to childrens cancer research as I have mentioned before and they donated alot to the Ronald Mcdonald house. Kate promotes all sorts of charities from cancer research to donating fresh drinking water to countries that have none. Why do people like to focus on negative things? Or make up negative things? Or not have all the facts and then retell them on here trying to make a point and then sounding so ignorant? Every human being is put on this earth for a purpose. It might be to become the president or it might be to take hot meals to an elderly person on your block. There is a reason and purpose for everything. Sure Jon and Kate have made money by having 2 sets of multiples. But they have done something bigger than gotten a new house or tv show, they have reached out to people all over the world with their love and donations. Telling their amazing story and how God has touched them. Their children were born to them to give them the oppertunity to spread Gods word!! In return God is providing for them and blessed them with the 8 children! IN my opinion the world needs more of Gods people out there spreading his love and word!

I would like to respond to just a few things as well....
Jon and Kate did have money saved up before and during their fertility treatments. They were financially stable. Though money was tight after the sextuplets God helped provide for them. Whether it be through extra change in the couch, a box of paper towels left at the door or a monetary donation. Never under estimate the power of prayer or our God. Those children have never gone without food, shelter or clothing therefor Jon and Kate were as financially ready as anyone would be.

Using fertility treatments is not selfish at all. God created all things. Its up to humans to use them for good. If we were not to use fertility treatments God wouldnt of given us the knowledge to do so. We just need to be smart about what Gods gives us.

Why are so many people upset about Jon and Kate having a nurse for the babies for the first year...well not even that long.. Shouldnt you be more upset that your tax dollars go to people on welfare that are capable of working and do not. Your complaining about your tax money providing care to small infants???

The sextuplets are going to be 5 in may. I read a blog about why do they still show high chairs and cribs and bottles on the show the kids are too old for those things. They do not use any of those things anymore.....what the heck are you talking about?!?!?!?

Again I would like to say that Jon and Kate DID NOT have 6 fertilized eggs implanted in Kate!!!!!!!! They had IUI (intra uteran insemination). PLEASE people read the book or pay attention to the shows before you speak!!!!!!!

Again the shows are edited!! We do not see everything!! I am sure Maddy is dealt with off camera as well as on. She is a child and some are more difficult than others. Im sure not all your children are great everyday!

Why is everyone so upest about fertility???? Arent there more important things to be upset about? What about abortion clinics? What about mothers having babies while they are on drugs or drinking alcohol? What about woman who have babies and dont even know who the father is because they were sleeping with so many men?? What about woman that have babies and do not want them?? or leave them in a dumpster??? or beat them??? What about that stuff america!! I think those are the kinds of woman that need to be fixed!! Those are the kinds of women the tax payers need to be upset with!!

God is providing for Jon and Kate! If I were them I would accept everything too and ignore all the bad comments that are coming from small minded people.

Everyone has an opinion....but make it an educated one.

I would spend 4 hours cleaning my fridge if it needed it...why do people think thats strange??? Do you not have clean homes?? Shouldnt being a neat freak be something that is praised?????

If in fact..as some say..it is Gods will for you not to have kids if you can not have kids naturally...then....when you get strep throat is that Gods will and you shouldnt go to the doctor and get medicine? If you loose an arm or leg is that Gods will and you shouldnt have a fake one to replace it??? If your child needs a transplant of some sort is that Gods will and they shouldnt have the transplant done??

of course companies are going to offer them free things such as tummy tucks. hair plugs and trips! They would get to have themselves advertised on the show! Thats marketing...thats I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine...thats normal and people do it every day!!

the official site of Jon and Kate is.... sixgosselins.com that is the ONLY place where official information is released about them unless its in an interview given by them or book or from their show.

To Jon and Kate...Good luck with everything! Keep spreading the word of God as you do. You have helped my family so much!!!

Michelle..good luck in everything! Hope to hear from you!


Sarah P. Ohio   February 5th, 2009 1:46 am ET

I forgot to mention...I saw a blog about botox....this is not a discussion on topics like that. This is about far more important situations than if Kate has crows feet or not. Who cares!! We all age!! Dont be so shallow


michelle   February 5th, 2009 2:02 am ET

Hey Sarah... very very well put. People are ignorant and jealous and they should be more worried about children getting beaten, or even stolen to be sold off to dirty old men for sex... or women. People need to get a life and worry about their own instead of other people's lives. Would they want people telling them how they should live. I highly doubt it since they have defensive personalities. I took your email Sarah and added you to MSN and I will message you in a couple days. As for everyone else who hate Jon and Kate, grow up and do your research and stop telling lies. Its embarrassing.


Sam   February 5th, 2009 2:11 am ET

I have no problem with someone having multiple births. but if you are single and on welfare and live with mom and dad then dont have kids until you are in a stable relationship. my question is how is the mom going to pay for the hospital bill, the care of the children. I think she should have her tubes tied and the children should be adopted to families that can afford to have children so the great lovely state of california wont have to pay for them.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 5th, 2009 2:18 am ET

thanks michelle!! I feel that anyone has the right to try and have a child of their own and if that fails ( there are people by the way that do not conceive with fertility or naturally) then adoption or foster parenting is the path given to them. Some families with fertility issues choose not to do any sort of fertility treatments which is fine. God leads all his people in different directions...we just have to choose the correct path for our selves, our lives and families. He trusts us to follow him and go where we need to. Some are ment to give birth others are not.


Tina   February 5th, 2009 2:50 am ET

Kate may not of had 8 kids at once BUT she is very much like Nayda Suleman the mother of the California Octuplets. as by her own mouth said in her books and TV show said She was in hospital for over stimulated ovary's from fertility drugs and would have know she released more then one egg. So with that knowledge looks like they went ahead and had sex and 3 weeks later was pregnant and at 5 weeks she had the ultrasound that showed multiples. No wonder she said to Jon "What have WE done!" when she saw the ultrasound screen.

Kate also said in her interview Mother Of Sextuplets Faces Loss Of Medicaid-Funded Nurse
(Society has a responsibility, says Mom)
Associated Press May 8, 2005
Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births.

NO we don't, as she made the choice to take the drugs.

As The Learning Channel has contacted the mother & family of the Octuplets, if they are given a show, I like thousands of others will permanently BLOCK TLC, as it shows like Jon & Kate plus 8 that promote others to either try for multiples in the hopes of having a TV show.


Michelle - Pittsburgh   February 5th, 2009 9:03 am ET

What I can't understand is how the woman in CA was able to afford the fertility treatments if she was living with her parents. Her mother also stated she was obsessed with having a child. She was only 31, She had plenty of time to remarry and have another child. Also the ones who mention that she should not get public assistance can't fault the children for the mother's stupidity.The children did not ask to be born although they will probably become the taxpayers responsibility. Also, I think there should be limitations on these treatments because doctors are playing god whether they accept it or not. They should only be used as a last resort for people who do not have any children and have.exhausted all means of trying to conceive. They also should be limited to married couples because of the amount of care and committment needed to handle a multiple birth situation. Sometimes everyone should not have the right to do whatever they want and the CA woman is a prime example. My step grandmother always said god protects fools and children..Sometimes we need limits to protect the fools who actions are now affecting 16 other people in her life – her parents + her children and the thousands of taxpayers who will probably share the burden of raising them. Also if she did this for profit she is even dumber than we think because as companies and individuals tighten their belts she may not get the winfall that Kate and her family have received. I know I would not buy the book of her story. It is so commonplace anymore it is becoming just another video posted to youTube. If u get my drift..


Michelle - Pittsburgh   February 5th, 2009 9:16 am ET

I also want to add to my comment re the CA woman and America in general- this is why America is the way it is right now (financially and morally decayed). We get so caught up in our selfishness and do things we know are not right but because it is want we want but not necessarily what we can handle or need. We figure we will deal with the consequences later. We buy SUV's and McMansions on a Walmart employees salary and then wonder why we can't maintain it. When you have children for the same reasons that drives you to buy that SUV you can't afford, you are going way too far....


rnmom   February 5th, 2009 9:44 am ET

We are seeing the the reprecussions of the unregulated, wanton practices of reproductive medicine in both cases. Some of these "business people" who posess physician's licenses while trying to assist women in having children have skirted the fine line between responsible medicine and malpractice all to make a profit. Just remember most fertility treatments are NOT covered by insurance. Couples can outlay 20-30K for IVF procedures and at best only 50-60% are successful.

I have 2 beautiful children which were both conceived via assisted reproduction procedures, the 1st IUI and the 2nd IVF. My ob/gyn referred me to a fertility clinic in my area and I found a caring, compassionate staff that was also realistic about the reality of my infertility problems as well as the risks associated with fertility treatments. I was counseled about the various treatment options, the increased risk of pregnancy with multiples as well as the option of selective reduction in the event of a preganancy with 3 or more babies. Yes this was even before any treatment started.

The medical team that treated me was spectacular. After undergoing an ultrasound in preparation for the 1st attempt for IUI, I was given mixed news, the good was that I had responded favorably to the treatments, the bad was that I had responded too well, and there were too many follicles to safely proceed with IUI that treatment course, the risk of a mulitple preganacy was far too high. Oh yes, and I was to use birth control at home. My second try had a favorable outcome, and the result is now my 15 y.o daughter.

I didn't have the same success with treatments for a second child and we had to go down the IVF route. My physician would old permit 2 embryos to be implanted, and on the 3rd try (finally) I was pregnant. The result my 11 y.o son.

In closing, don't crucify these women for the irresponsiblity of the medical community, particularly the FOR PROFIT business of reproductive medicine.

On a side note, TLC you really have allowed J&K +8 to become based upon very superficial topics. It was a great show before the tummy tucks, the hair plugs and the mansion. Go back to some of the less pretentious topics that made the show successful and try to win back some fans.


Courtney   February 5th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

I agree with Carolyn on this one Mady does seem out of control and seems like a nasty,spoiled child. And I think alot of the things that were said in her interview is crap. I'm sorry but I am not a supporter of this woman and I feel for the kids. They always seem to be willing to take money esp. It just disgusts me I can hardly watch the show unless i'm yelling at the tv. This was their choice if they are as smart as they try to act they should of known that they were not going to get just one or two more children. And as far as schedules ok now this is just like a mom who has 5 separate children she is still going to have to have a schedule for each. I think this woman just wants as much as attention that she can get. People should stop sending these ppl on vacations and getting surgeries it's ridiculous. Why do they deserve it? just because she was a science nightmare?


laura   February 5th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

I would like to add something possitive. My kids and myself watch the show and we love it. If any of you have watched the show , you would see that Jon and Kate do not live over their means. Kate uses coupons, she shops for what is on sale, how many of us could say they do that. Jon and Kate, everystep of the way are thinking about the kids and have said when the kids don't want it anymore they will stop.
On a side note, if you really watch the show you would see that it is not superficial. Bottom line is they provide for their children. IF you don't agree with them having a show, don't watch it .


Brenda   February 5th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

HELLS BELLS, Michelle and Sarah, please DO email each other and stop writing fertility books on this blog. I have compassion for your situation but PLEASE, no one wants to read a continual barrage every few minutes. Actually when you write those long boring things no one reads the whole thing anyway so stop wasting your fingers.


KIM   February 5th, 2009 2:00 pm ET

I THINK THAT THE GOSLINS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THESE LITTLE PEOPLE. EVEN PARENTS OF SINGLETONS NEED HELP ONCE IN A WHILE WHEN A CHILD FIRST COMES. I WISH ALL OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE THE BEST OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY EVER DO AND THE PARENTS TOO ALONG WITH THEIR TWIN SISTERS....THEIR ALL BEAUTIFUL


michelle   February 5th, 2009 2:05 pm ET

Michelle from Pittsburg.... Wow cause im sure God really said that he protects FOOLS , please maybe you shouldn't listen to everything your ignorant grandma says. I will agree with you that the majority of American people are EXTREMELY SELFISH. That is what is wrong with your country.


Brenda   February 5th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

You say,"That is what is wrong with your country." Excuse me, OUR country. I know you were talking to Mishelle but what country are you from if you are saying OUR country? If you do not like this country chick, feel free to take your ass where you belong. That's a major pet peeve I have. Immigrints who complain about this country yet stay here. Shut-Up!!


Laura   February 5th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

I believe we have given Kate Gosselin more attention than she needs. She is a HORRIBLE mother, and treats her husband with less respect than I have ever witnessed in my life.. She treats the children TERRIBLE and exploits them so that they can go on lavish vacations, and by a nice new house.. they are now worth MILLIONS but yet still take "love offerings" from the churches where they speak. How come Larry didnt ask what happened to your "best friend" Beth Carson who CO-WROTE the book with her, but yet Kate has NEVER mentioned her on one book tour... also Kate what happened to Aunt Jodi who was more loving to your children than you will ever be.. Is that why she was dismissed? Just like Kate's parents, John's mother and every other person who came into those poor children's lives... Kate Gosselin should be ashamed of herself and I wish TLC would cancel the show, see how they take lavish trips and buy things then. They are EXPLOITING THEIR CHILDREN FOR MONEY.....


dave   February 5th, 2009 4:51 pm ET

I wish the IRS talk a look at the wacko woman in LA with 14 kids now, and also at this jon and kate plus eight group. Im sure there some tax hole their using. Cause jon and kate claim they dont get paid by the show but can buy a 1.3 million dollar new home. And mother hubberd in la with 14 kids and no job is paying the medical bill how?


Brooke   February 5th, 2009 6:17 pm ET

To the native indian from Canada...give me a break, i'm from Canada and the native Indians get more than anyone in this country. The things they do get they distroy or if you look on any native land it's a disgrace.. old cars abandon, houses distroyed, half of the people living on the reserve have addiction problems they can't controll and we take care of that. Your houses are paid for if you live on the reserve, you pay no tax and you get price breaks on anything you buy, yea, you have it so hard... look at taking care of what you do have before you take on any more... it makes me sick to even think you feel that way...

I'll come on Larry King and tell him what it' really like. I can't believe you even went there


Holly   February 5th, 2009 6:47 pm ET

Question: Who is paying for the medical care at the Kaiser hospital for the octuplets?


sandy   February 5th, 2009 8:29 pm ET

I believe that we all need to stand together and draw the line.
my husband and I will be boycotting T .L.C if they have that california woman who just had the octuplets a reality show. I would not want this unmarried and irresponsibe woman to be a mentor for my children. Jon @Kate plus Eight were married and at least living together as a family and supporting themselves at the time . This california woman is a Disgrace.


Linda   February 5th, 2009 10:34 pm ET

KATE’S OWN WORDS

Kate’s mother, Charlene Kreider, said her daughter always wanted to be a mother. Kate Gosselin always wanted twins, Kreider said, and her love for children influenced her choice to pursue a career as a labor and delivery nurse.

“She got her twins and went beyond that,” Kreider said.
Now, carefully read this from Jon & Kate’s old website Bio.

“We decided that in October we would return for “round two”, but I got impatient (imagine that!) and went back in August right before our family trip to Disney World. August failed!”

“When we returned, {NOW LOOK AT THIS->}we switched doctors and tried again in October…That cycle was perfect! Everything went great!
I was told I had 3 with a possibility of 4 follicles, {So KATE KNEW!! she had more then the "ONE they claimed to only want}
and that was a great cycle! The only thing that made our doctor nervous was the fact that we were absolutely opposed to reduction and that we were concerned about multiples again. We prayed about this and just like our peace about returning in October for this, we felt peace about proceeding. So we did!”

Five weeks later, (after my hospitalization for over stimulated ovaries) we were at our initial ultrasound and learned the news. I will never forget this day as long as I live." Kate Gosselin

No doctor in their mind would go ahead with treatment knowing there were FOUR {or more} eggs released. She went ahead and had sex and BINGO got her multiples. That DOES sound just like Suleman.
I'm now blocking the Learning Channel from my TV.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 6th, 2009 12:32 am ET

The only reason my blogs/comments are so long is because there is so much information that nobody knows or understands. Actually I dont think you WANT to understand. You think your ideas and opinions and the correct ones even when they are based on false information. There are much more important things in America that people should be upset about. The Gosselins are a family based on christian beliefs. You should be directing your negativity towards that woman that turned man then back to half woman to have a child. If you ask me thats the sick-o.

Maybe my blogs are so long because they are informative and full of definitions. But Im sorry if reading that much is hard for you. Im sure you can get someone to translate any of the larger words.

I promised myself that I wouldnt result to typing alot of negative remarks in hopes at getting under someones skin. I wanted to enlighten people and show them there are two sides to every story. However something cant be helped........

One last thing....God only protects fools and children?? Well then...you can sleep better at night knowing he is watching over you.

isnt it funny how when your quoting Kate.....you leave things out......i find that amusing................her words..your editing them...just as how the show is edited........


Sarah P. Ohio   February 6th, 2009 12:34 am ET

also there are many reasons for switching doctors...thats not fishy or strange at all...I myself have switched doctors. Insurance reasons, staff reasons the doctor could have relocated.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 6th, 2009 12:45 am ET

ugh..my fingers hurt............typing and thinking and having intelligence is wearing me down! im wasting my fingers away!

exploiting her kids.......PLEASE.....so is every mother that has her kids on tv or any sort of ad exploiting them????? They are making money from the kids being on tv! I hope that you dont support any show with a child in it..or commercial for that matter! boycott Kraft foods!!! they are exploiting children in their adds!!! they kids work under hot lights! its stressful to eat mac and cheese and say its the cheesiest on command!! those bad moms!!! how dare they make a living off of their kids!!! Dont watch all these kids movies either! ugh the poor kids..working all the time!!! horrible parents...!! give me a break people!!!!!!


Tara   February 6th, 2009 1:54 am ET

Kate Gosselin and Nadya Suleman have the same problem. If you read Kate's bio you can see she always wanted lots of babies. After having her twins (and she even said she always wanted to have multiples) she went back and tried for more multiples. Both Kate and Nadya Suleman have the intention of getting rich off of their children... Kate just got there first. Kate Gosselin should NOT be on national news channels giving advice on mothering multiples or telling the nation that she is "worried". She is part of the problem!!! I am worried about her children!


Jayme   February 6th, 2009 9:05 am ET

OK I have to join in again, in regard to child actors.

As a Mom of a kid who WANTED to act, and did just a few commercials plus some theatre, there are STRICT LAWS regarding time under the lights, hours of operation, etc. And then there are the LAWS in regard to the income she made.

Remember the Olson twins? They played ONE child. Because of laws.

The reality shows seem to fall between the cracks. We don't know how many hours they are under the lights. Even child actors get to go home at the end of the day and unwind. These children are always on a "set".

And lastly, these children are not actors, they are real children. They are not even "playing" themselves. I prefer to listen to the surviving Dionne quints – keep the kids out of the spotlight.

Thank you.


momofplenty   February 6th, 2009 9:22 am ET

The truth? What are you talking about? Kate is only good at damage control. A picture or (video) is worth a 1000 words. She says we see the real Gosselins, and I say it isn't good. The kids are suffering by growing up in front of the cameras and having intimate details of their lives documented. Not to mention the kooky parenting style of their parents. What must the twins deal with at school? If it's not obvious to them, it is the the viewers and former viewers.


igmukitty   February 6th, 2009 11:32 am ET

I wanted to respond to all the allegations that Jon & Kate are living off freebies and corporate sponsors and are exploiting their children. First of all, keep in mind the show is only one hour a week. We don't see their entire lives. Secondly, maybe living off money given voluntarily to the family is better than living off of America's tax dollars. Just something to think about. By the way, I'm not saying medicaid and welfare don't have their place. My son himself is on medicaid. It looks to me from the hour a week on TV that she's doing a pretty damn good job. At least she takes care of all her children. They may get out of hand sometimes, but all kids do, and I think both she and Jon always have their children's best interests in mind.


colleen   February 6th, 2009 12:54 pm ET

I hope all you haters of Jon and Kate remember one thing – karma what comes around goes around. You may say such hateful things about people and feel good about yourself, but it will come around and bite you back. If you don't like something or someone is or does then you need to keep those thoughts to yourself- how bout this don't watch the show. You know I simply amazed at how much hate and rudeness I read in all these blog replies all across the internet.

Even when comes to this lady who had the 14 kids, HOW does that even remotely affect you and your daily lives? Have nothing else to worry about in this day and age? I know I do! I just think maybe if people supported people more, or at least kept their comments to themselves, we would be a much better world. To call her a dog and she should be fixed.......shameful!!! wonder what skeletons we could pull out of your closet?


Im4Bama   February 6th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

I don't watch this show....but isn't the life of the family "John & Kate" VERY CUSHY with all the endorsement $$$ they have coming in? Do they actually get up, make their own meals, wash ALL their own clothes, run all their own errands, clean their own house, etc. ????? If they live (REALLY LIVE) like the rest of us...then we all need to mind our own business. But alas, the media has hiped them up without giving us the real behind the scenes details. More than likely, they ain't like all of us.....trudging through the day to day trying to make it work.


Missy   February 6th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

I certainly hope I do not offend any one, but I am offended to, theres a poster (I won't mention her name) that said she thinks at least 14 churches in the US of A, that preach against abortions should sponser one of the 14 kids all the way from now thru college, and kinda snarky said "so there, they are taken care of"

Well to that I say "heck no" I belong to a church, and I personally do not agree with abortion, with that being said I Totally dis-agree with a woman now days ever having a baby unwanted, but wait this was all planned, I personally do not care if she has everyone of those kids put into a better home, why should my Church, that I support , that I pay thithes to support her stupidity? she got just what she wanted, B/c she was an only child?, heck no. It's a way of never having to work again, it's better than welfare, I think the state of Calif. should let her sit there and worry about her own kids, if she would have asked for help with the 6, I would have a different view, but then why keep having children when you can not afford them, If she and daddy can't support them, well maybe Angelina Jolie will take them.

I am so sick of women whinning about having another baby, and "we didn't want another one right now" Liars, if you don't want to have one don't, if you can't find a way of birth control, well don't have sex,

Oh dang it wait a minute she didn't have sex, she had it all planned, her and the good Dr. as for me and my church, we already have our hands full taking care of our own, so sorry poster this is one you can't count on.


Dee   February 6th, 2009 5:04 pm ET

I don't believe we need commentary from Kate Gosselin on the subject of multiple births. She needs to pull the plug on their t.v. show and stop living off those kids. At some point in their lives, the Gosselin kids are going to lash out at their parents for the manipulation and unnecessary exposure. Maddy, one of their eldest daughters, is already an anger-filled little brat.

When the t.v. show recently aired an episode where the Gosselins were in their new mega-huge house and Kate was looking out through the kitchen window at the vast expansion of land and commented, "Mine, all mine," that was totally ludicrous and narcissistic. I'm sure that they're able to afford the house from the sole income that the father [who's as IT'er] brings home, huh??


GIVEMEABREAK   February 6th, 2009 10:14 pm ET

Kate Gosselin is such a LIAR. She gets help all the time. A chef, house keeping, nannies and more. MORE MORE MORE. They now live in a million dollar home thanks to TLC. What a crock because she refused to take freebies from her hometown church (right after the kids were born) because the items were not new. Hundreds of volunteers the first year offered clothes, furniture and more and she freaked out all because it was used and not what she wanted. She is a greedy lying nut, selling her kids to aquire $$$$... TLC needs to cancel this show! Oh and yes, I know this because I live in her hometown, so you out there that LOVE her, she is that crazy and mean!!!


fxfanatic   February 6th, 2009 11:03 pm ET

Sarah P.
The kids in commercials are PAID and in a union. They have this thing called PROTECTION and can only work a certain amount of hours. The lights are not in their homes and they don't get filmed "living their life."

**Maybe my blogs are so long because they are informative and full of definitions.***

Oh, you are long-winded AND delusional.


fxfanatic   February 6th, 2009 11:05 pm ET

Brenda - Thank you!!


fxfanatic   February 6th, 2009 11:09 pm ET

igmukitty: most of us don't live off freebies or welfare. We have these things called JOBS. They enable us to take care of our families without help from others.
Why is their only choice freebies/tv show or welfare? I guess you do see what losers they really are.


Lulu   February 6th, 2009 11:40 pm ET

First of all to Karma, your take on John and Kate was hysterical!! It was the most entertaining comment on the entire blog. I just want to say that I haven't missed an episode and continue to be hooked on the reruns as well. It's unfortunate that the success of their show seems to have changed John and Kate from the way they were at the beginning, expecially Kate of course. Is it possible that perhaps they never even dreamed they would be where they are right now? Do you all really believe they are deviant people who planned to exploit their children, in your words, and profit from them so greatly? Perhaps, or maybe it snowballed out of control and who wouldn't want all these freebies?? AFter all, isn't TLC to blame? Why are we blaming John and Kate?

The younger children seem completely adjusted and happy from what we can see, in my opinion, and the older girls are not only dealing with all of this in their lives, but they are likely still having jealousy issues of their siblings and each other!!

I do wish we could get straight answers on the missing people from the show, such as Kate's parents, John's mother, Beth, Jodi and Kate's brother. JENNY, where's JENNY the babysitter who Kate dismisses practically in every episode she was in. Kate barely acknowledged her to be there, I have to say that was rude. It would be professional and courteous to their fans to answer these questions, as we are very curious and miss these individuals. What do their children think and what kind of message does it send to them? John and Kate, you are role models for your children and I hope Kate's parents are in their lives and perhaps we just don't get to see it. However, if you are estranged from them for whatever reason, just remember that someday your children will have children and wouldn't it break your hearts not to be a part of their lives? Mend the fences before it's too late so you do not live with regret and guilt. Forgiveness is a powerful thing and will free you. If not, it will eat you up alive and cause you to act unlovingly. Good luck to you.


Debra   February 7th, 2009 1:41 am ET

Karma...LOL That was great.

Please repost that!!!!


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 2:14 am ET

i am long winded and delusional.......because i have spent so much time and effort trying to make you see some good in someone, trying to teach you about fertility and that its not all bad. its like a gun.....you have to be responsible with it and follow the rules. sometimes accidents happen and you have to deal with it the best you can. there is no way for you to be able to feel whats its like to be in a woman with fertility issues shoes.....and i hope that you never have to be. its an awful thing.....but i pray that one day you find peace in your heart and stop being so angry with the wrong people and things. i hope that you change yourself and become a better less hateful person with compassion and have faith in others as well as god.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 2:41 am ET

Sarah P, do you think this Calif. mom had an accident, do you think she really only wanted "one more?" Ihope you don't believe that, but say that is true, why would she even want one more, I don't buy her lies that she was an only child and wanted a lot of kids, she already had more than she could afford, seriously 6 kids under 8 yrs of age, I don't care if she had 100 if she could afford them, She can not,

Even if she goes to college and gets her masters, she still can't afford them, ppl are losing jobs everyday, ppl with degrees, what makes you think she is gonna do better?

In the mean time who is paying for college? not her, not daddy,who is gonna take care of all her kids when she goes to college, grandma? not one person can do that.

No one in their right mind or had really thought this out would have ever done what she has done, She can not even afford diapers and formula for 8 babies. she doesn't even have decent housing for them to live in.

The stupid professionals that were on LKL defending her have no idea and don't really care b/c the burden is not on them, Well I say it should not be on any one except her and her stupid dr. If she can not feed them well let the State of Calif. step in and give them to some one who can feed them,

What this woman has done is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of, She just saw a way of making money and never working again, She says she can give them unconditional love and give herself to them, well sure while she is sitting in class everyday getting her masters, right?
Can you see her toting at least 12 kids into a day care everyday and then back home and staying up all night with preemies? No way No how. Besides wait, she'll have to have a bigger vehicle to carry all of them, but in the mean time 22.000 ppl in Calif have to quit working on Fridays, So was she doing what was best for her other children when she decided "she wanted another baby? heck no, she still has babies in diapers and her dad is going back to Iraq to work, How selfish can a human being be? I think she ought to be locked up, fixed so she can not ever have more babies and let some one else raise these kids, she is a sick woman,and needs serious help.

Who the hack is going to pay all the health care for these preemies, have you any idea how many millions it is already, hopefully they are healthy, but whose footing the bill for all of this, not her, but b/c she is a woman and decided against all odds that they would be healthy, she did it anyway, b/c she is looking for a show, just like the Gosselins got, so maybe she;ll end up with a million dollar house while the hard working family man will lose his, It wil not surprise me if she gets a show, or if she gets all the freebies like the Gosselins did, hell the American ppl have been pretty stupid so far, look who we have running this country.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 2:51 am ET

Please sarah P, don't disgrace our Lord and savior with showing the link to christianity today, puleeezzzeee God had nothing to do with this woman having these babies, Remember dear he gives us our own will and lets us make our own choices,

I am so sick and tired of ppl saying God did this, or God is blessing me, It's ppl like these who turn ppl away from God, b/c they say they are in Gods will, they say they are christians, but the bible says "by your fruit you are known" and I have not seen the fruit of these ppl yet, I don't care what they say, what are they showing, not only to us but their own children, To do what ever, to get what you want with out ever doing a hard days labour, and then complain about it's still not enough, Oh my lord we have ppl starving right here in our country, while they waller up from everyone who will listen, There are ppl who give that go with out them selves, and I'm sick of them using God to do it, so don't you dare bring God into this womans selfish behavior..


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 3:09 am ET

I was not speaking of the CA woman.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 3:17 am ET

wow before you go off on me maybe you should read what i am against and what i am for. and what i have talked about it past blogs. i know there long...too much to read...im windy...im delusional.....but at least know where i stand and what i support before trashing me!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and what the heck does obama have to do with this??!!!....do you feel better getting that remark in! i sure hope so.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 3:26 am ET

I don't know how anyone could read Karma's post and still not be splitting a gut, I don't know when I have ever laughed so hard about some thing on a blog, Karma you should be a writer,

I know there are several blogs looking for writers,


fxfanatic   February 7th, 2009 3:44 am ET

I never said anything against fertility. EVER. My problem is with how Kate treats her family. You are taking this way too personal. I don't have "hate in my heart" and I'm not a Christian so your truth is not mine.
How does your higher power feel about child exploitation and dishonoring one's spouse? My G-d deems those acts as sins. Worshiping false idols is also a sin.


fxfanatic   February 7th, 2009 3:46 am ET

BTW, I live and WORK in California but I will not be getting my state tax refund this year because the state is broke. However, this new mother, WHOM I HAVE NEVER said one negative word about, will be getting her state benefits for the next 18 years.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 3:52 am ET

Sarah, I didn't say any thing about Obama,
I am not trashing you, The remark you have made more than once about telling others to read that article unless they do not want to know the truth, what is that about? I'm just saying there could be a lot of christian ppl on here, I am, but b/c we are a christian does not mean we need to get kicked in the face,
And yes there are so many ppl doing "what feels good" for them and doing it in the name of the Lord
As afr as the Gosselins, I have for the most part been a defender of them, but tell me do you think Jon portrays himself as a christian/husband/father? no he does not, he is going so against Gods word, He and Kate have reversed the roles, he is suppose to be the head of the home, not Kate, he is suppose to keep his children in check, does he? no, they talk to him just like she does.
Have you ever told one of your kids "don't listen to daddy he's mean?" oh my lord is that a christian mother saying that, no,no,no.
I am so dis-appointed to read what ppl on the blogs say about christians, but they have a right to when you have so-called -christians acting like they do, I don't care how much they are given, how much they have, just quit saying God Blesses us and in the same breath talk to Jon like he is a dog, I don't even treat my dog that bad,
PPl are in trouble in this country, and it don't look like it is getting better to soon, and then we cxhristians tell ppl to pray and seek Gods will and then they see how the Gosselins live "by the word" what can you say to that,
and when do Jon and Kate ever Pray? they sure don't do it where ppl see it, and no TLC has nothing to do with it, It's their kids and their home, why not at least pray before a meal?So even if TLC didn't allow it, which do you think God would be more pleased with the money or the prayer? Espically since they say they are trusting God.

Heres something to think about, little Caylee Anthony, I just wonder if Kate ever thinks of precious little kids like that, probably not b/c she is just to busy and stressed,

Lets face and believe me it has taken me a whaile to say this, but Kate and some of her kids is completely out of control, and Jon is to blame, he had better man up and go read his bible, and instead of reading blogs and e-mailing in his closet he'd better get on his knees and pray, and really seek God, b/c Jon is not doing his wife and children any justice, if they din't get things into order , one day some one is gonna snap, heres one for ya, how about that family in Calif, where the dad just killed his wife and all of his precious kids, he snapped, they lost their jobs, while ppl don't work run all over the country and go to the bank with lots of money, if The Gosselins got cut off tomorrow, they will never worry about money again, thats how much they have made.Are they really happy? I doubt it, look what Elvis had was he happy? NO. Sorry did not mean to offend you, I mean that honestly.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 4:03 am ET

fxfanatic, I am sorry about your tax refund, it's not right and it's a shame that 22.000 ppl were not at work today, and I hope that Calif don't give this woman a dime, If she can't support them (and she can not) even with her parents help, how can she do it? then let the State provide homes for them.

My MIL raised 14 kids, they lived on a farm, they ate what they grew and harvested, They raised healthy happy kids to no ones expence but theirs. Guess what those kids all grown some are even granparents now, and none of them have lived off welfare or a show,
Right now is a time when many hard working ppl are losing their jobs, they are the ones the state should be able to help, we do not need any more welfare bums, welfare was never designed to be a life style, but jt sure has become one for free loaders and bums, healthy men and women who could work,
In my state if you have an addiction, heck just go sign up for welfare until you are able to go to work, which is usually never,or just go to jail, they take good care of ya there, It is so sad.


Kate   February 7th, 2009 4:13 am ET

People keep going on about how the woman that had 8 children had 8 empryos placed in her, when she had 6 empryo's placed and two split. Anyhow, it seems completely unethical. I want to know how people that get "slightly" injured get 165,000 thousand dollars in disability when my mother with multiple aliments that CANT even get out of bed some days gets denied disability. It also appears that she got lip injections with that 165,000 thousand dollars of disability money. She definately seemed to have something funny going on like a mental disability, nobody in their right minds thats single, living at home with their mother and unemployed would want to chance putting in ANY let alone 6 empryos. Lets just hope for the sake of the children, they go to good schools, and have a very forfilled loving life, not an exploited one which they're most likely doomed to have.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 4:33 am ET

The only reason I do take any of this so personal is because I am living the fertility battle along with my husband. I am not looking for sympathy nor do I think I am a special person (or snowflake as some have said). I wanted to defend the use of fertility in a responsible manner. Never did I defend the CA mother. I am a Gosselin fan. My husband and I have been to one of their inspirational speakings. We both enjoyed it and alot of the questions that people ask they answered there. They didnt turn down any questions. They said the grandparents are involved just not everyday, Kate had her sister Kendra there with them. They do have family why do people think their whole family should be on TV? The kids are filmed playing they are not working. The talked about prayer and reading scripture to the children. They met people in the crowd and held babies. They were down to earth and very commical together. My husband and I can relate to them.

missy....Im at a loss for words to you....(for once! LOL!!!)........I have only laughs!!...never have i ever experienced someone that thinks like you do!! WOW!! jon goes against gods word??? oh...you said something about look whos running this country...well..that would be obama now...unless there is another president i was not aware of.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 4:44 am ET

and what i ment by unless you dont want to know the truth.....
there are some people out there that just believe what they want to. whether its factual or not. they can just be told something and thats what they go with...well that link takes you to an interview done with kate. so i posted it in case anyone wanted to go read it. however there are people that even if something is right in front of them they wont look..as if they are scared to find out they could of been wrong or something....and this is not referring to anyone ...its just a comment made in general.


michelle   February 7th, 2009 6:22 am ET

Well put again Sarah.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 10:51 am ET

thanks. but no matter what is said in jon and kates defense or responsible fertility treatments....someone somewhere will always have something negative to say about. whether its true or not. i guess thats freedom of speech. LOL.....but we should direct the negative remarks to awful people that hurt their children and dont love and take care of them. but im sure that remark just left it open for someone to say they think kate is hurting her kids by having a reality show blah blah...........so really there is nothing more to say. thanks for arguing and debating though......it was interesting and somewhat fun and amusing at times! but also hurtful too.


fxfanatic   February 7th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

**the kids are filmed playing they are not working. ***

Hannah has headaches because of hot lights.
Leah has nightmares.
Mady has attitude issues.
The boys are so well-behaved on TV because they are PETRIFIED of their mother.

I'm sorry you are having fertility challenges but I do believe Jon and Kate live against G-d's laws too. As long as you admire them and defend them, you will be attacked for your extreme ignorance.


Tracy   February 7th, 2009 4:04 pm ET

It was so good to read all of the comments about Jon and Kate, I to feel the same.It was a couple of years ago we started watching the show, all of us watched it even my husband. But as time went on Kate grew meaner and meaner. My husband cant stand to watch the show any longer he says Kate dogs her husband I agree. I think the world wants to know why he accepts it. Maybe he feels as if he stands up to her everyone would say poor Kate with all those kids. Her children are whiny but getting better. But that Maddy boy she needs help, I would love a chance to actually meet with those Gosselins and find out whats the deal.I just pray that they still have there faith (although you can't tell) .Kate woman to woman if you ever take the time to read these posts please stop talking to your husband that way, dont feel because you renewed your vows that Jon wont bail, there are so many woman that will treat him good.


colleen   February 7th, 2009 7:53 pm ET

So everything you read on the internet is the truth ,huh?


colleen   February 7th, 2009 8:00 pm ET

Sarah, Thanks for posting the link! Very good! I am just amazed at what people will say about others? Folks get so wrapped up in hate- but I guess goes to show- easier to hate then relate.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 9:23 pm ET

Sarah P. waht I was saying about Jon, or rather asking you, is do you see taht he is really living a christian life? Most christians believe Gods word, which says Jon is to be head of his house, not Kate, Jon does not discipline his children according to Gods word, Kate certainly does not treat her husband according to Gods word, and I'm not talking about when she smacks him, to me that is just playful loveing fun, I've never seen her angry when she does it, or when she said "I'll shoot him" she did not mean she was gonna shoot him,

I have always defended them, but ppl are saying so much about them calling them selves christians and it;s just not there to see. I have lost my temper plenty and said things I regreted. I'm sure most married couples have, but when you are on a national show and talk to the one you are suppose to love with all your heart like he is less than a human being than ppl have to wonder where God is at in their life, and Sarah, it's every episode,

Have you ever said some thing to your husband that would embarrass him if some one else heard it? I'm sure in 40+ years I have, but even if I dis-agreed with him I'd never embarrass him in front of his kids or family/friends or the dang camera crew, And Jon letting it just slide just makes him look like a wuss. What christian Mother tells her child "don't listen to daddy, he's mean?" Now I'm sure God really said "Well Done Kate"

Now as far as Obama, well what ever, but he is not the only one leading our country, Any way I hope we have more than just one man that has a say about our country, even tho it looks pretty shady and ppl are hurting and losing their lively hoods to a corrupt govern't I know there is more than one hand in the cookie jar, You sure don't see any one on the hill suffering do you? and they don't even pay taxes. But as bad as it is it's still America, suppose to be The Land of the Free, but right now I'm sure there are a lot of ppl out there that are wondering what ever happened to the truth in that slogan.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 7th, 2009 11:15 pm ET

your welcome colleen.


Missy   February 7th, 2009 11:51 pm ET

Not every thing I read is truth, sometimes I can't hardly believe what I see, such as a re-run I just saw,
Christian mom showing her christianty, Jon seds a son to corner, Kate calls him back (the son) Don't pay attention to daddy she says, then tells Jon Just go b/c your not helping me any way, Oh my Lord!!
Later on the couch when Jen asked Kate did she think that should have happened in front of the kids, Jon says No that should never happen in front of the kids, and Kate replies, we ahve to take care of it then or it wouldn't happen. Then off to Gymboree with the kids, where Jon gets in trouble for sitting one of the boys in time out.
Now Mady comes in the ktn from school mad as a hornet throws a fit kicks a balloon, goes to mommys room for some quiet time and T.V., and Kate the christian mom excuses it as going back to school is hard on her and she needs her alone time, Then here comes Mady all sweet and happy,

Now tell me where K&J showed their christian walk in any of that, Nope Jon just lets it go, and Kate just belittles him some more.

Now Sarah and Colleen if you call any of that hate, well it was hate shown from K&J to each other and their children.


Missy   February 8th, 2009 1:38 am ET

Heres a good one for us all, the families of victims of the USS Cole are hurt and dis-appointed b/c The President is with drawing charges against the ones who killed their loved ones and started the attack on us, which went onto 9-11, Now thats America for ya. Even the Commander said he is deeply dis-appointed in this order to let them go "FREE"

So just sit back and see what they do next huh?


michelle   February 8th, 2009 4:27 am ET

Im from Canada Missy where are the troops from the USS Cole are they anywhere near Iraq.. if so your an idiot ... yes cause clearly it was Iraq who caused all this ... jeese I thought it was people from afghanistan ohhh i guess i must be wrong... and I HIGHLY doubt that everyone on that ship is hurt.......and where did you hear this .. fox news or CNN um hrmmmm little bit of a bias source don't you think?


michelle   February 8th, 2009 4:28 am ET

typical WAR MONGER attitude


Janet boulter   February 8th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

Please do a show on- how society glorifies (and rewards)- people- and yet criticizes other for wanting the same. For example – the Gosslins and the Duggars- have been glorified and richly rewarded for their large families- so why shouldn't other want in on the fame and fortune?

I am a huge fan of Little People-Big World- because it educates people- and so far medical science has not created a way for people to deliberatly produce dwarf children. With the popularity and obvious affordability of invetro fertilization- we should expect women to continue to have large familes- unless we has a society- quit rewarding it.


Karma   February 8th, 2009 12:30 pm ET

Thursday at 9, the lifetime channel and K mart brings you the $tory behind the story.

You think you know everything there is to know about Jon and Kate Gosselin, megastars of the TLC network.

Cast:

Tina Youthers......................Kate Gosselin
Lou Diamond Phillips..........Jon Gosselin
Valerie Bertinelli..................Beth Carson
Olsen twins...........................The Gosselin twins
and in their theatrical debut......... The octuplets as the Gosselin 6!

"Look, I'm a nurse! Iknow the deal with this stuff, just give the damn shot and shut your trap, Dr.!

"I deserve more than this, Jon! Your just an IT guy and I'm just an RN, we'll always be just..... comfortable middle class!"

"You can give me anything y0u want, Dad!, but it better be new and it better match my white plastic chair"

"society owes me so much" (hysterical sobbing from back of plane)

"I want it just like this",
"but mam, thats a picture from a music video from the eighties featuring heavy white girls and their black, rapper baby daddies"
"shut up and cut my damn hair!"

"Jon, stop worrying, I'll act like i'm OCD, pretend to eat only organic and use the term "comfort item", without giggling, and all of the bad emails will stop."

"that's not butterscotch, thats albino zebra! I cant walk around with these stripes"!

"kaaaate, the great big van wont start again, little help?"

""we'll just keep doing what God wants us to do, right Jon?" (thunderous applause, heavy women in warm up suits and santa earings fainting)

"Seriously Beth, write the damn book, I'll make sure everyone knows you wrote it, totally will"

"I'm concerned that woman from california will exploit her kids for money" (keep looking at camera, dont laugh, dont laugh...and, were out, nice job Kate here's your check)

"Larry, I'm not sure how were gonna make it, it's a day to day struggle, we're in a battle here"
"Kaaate, the vinyl privacy fence guy texted me, he says the new watch dogs chewed through the spray tan hose going into the new spa that's in the outbuilding"
"Kaaate, why are you just staring at me?"
"Jon, Shut up"

It's..... a.. beautiful.... day.......


Sarah P. Ohio   February 8th, 2009 6:56 pm ET

janet

if a family can provide whats wrong with large families?? years ago thats what people did....had large families! glorifying large families does not make people want to have a large family (normal sane people anyway) and IVF or IUI are not affordable by any means!!!!!!! some insurance companies do not even cover any of it..therefore some families pay it all out of pocket. IVF can reach costs well over $14,000.


Sarah P. Ohio   February 8th, 2009 7:07 pm ET

and having fertility DOES NOT MEAN you will have a large family! I have a friend that has conceived through IVF twice. each time was a single birth. thats such a huge misconception about fertility!!!!!!!!!


Amy   February 8th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

I think people are just jealous. You SHOULD get paid for having a TV show. You should not get paid for doing interviews. How exactly do you people think TV works?

Bottom line is that the octuplet mom has some clear mental issues...they were diagnosed long before she had children. The Gosslin's are a good family taking advantage of the capitolistic society that we live in. They provide for their kids and it doesn't cost tax payers a dime., they don't have any mental issues and all you have to do is watch for 2 minutes to see that they LOVE their kids.

Just because they discipline differently than maybe some others, or make a living differently doesn't make them in any way comparable to a woman with an addiction or disorder.

God Bless you Gosslin's!


Sarah P. Ohio   February 8th, 2009 8:24 pm ET

well said amy!


Dan   February 8th, 2009 9:43 pm ET

My wife and I would love to have a child but, because of the costs of IVF and IUI we cannot. But, it's funny how this lady who just had 8 kids, can have this done, along with it being done before....how did she afford that?
We want to start a family and cannot get one while she's already had....HOW MANY?

Can anyone help us out??????


Sarah P. Ohio   February 8th, 2009 9:56 pm ET

dan

i think it was all a scam and her and the doc were in on it together...like he did his end for free..and then if she gets any money out of all this she will split it with him...but who really knows what happened!


Lulu   February 8th, 2009 10:59 pm ET

Hey Karma, you have outdone yourself!! Keep the laughs coming. Are you really Jodi? Does anybody know what happened to the babysitter Jenny? Did Kate catch her hubby checking her out so she showed her the door. Jenny, are you out there, tell us the truth!! I can't wait to see what goes on in the mansion tomorrow night!! Perhaps Kate will interview new cleaning ladies.


Debra   February 8th, 2009 11:32 pm ET

This looks like the Sarah P. Ohio show!!! Put a sock in it will ya Sarah P. How is it that you were able to link in your above comment from Christianity Today....

I have had two that were moderated by CNN that contained links that never made it thru????

Hmmm....or you Kate??


Sarah P. Ohio   February 9th, 2009 12:14 am ET

pretty simple...i copy and paste the link. dont tell me to put a sock in it then ask me a question....that really makes no sense.


Eileen   February 9th, 2009 12:17 am ET

I can not believe the comments I am reading here!! It is no one's business about how large a family people have!! People have been having large families for hundreds of years sucessfully and it's no one's business, particularly not the government.

As for multiple births, whether or not there are risks, once the babies are created, they have the right to live. Which baby would Kate have killed if she had to? None, of course – how sick! You people are hard-hearted and blind who feel killing babies is alright. And you have no right to force someone else to kill their children!

This is still America and not Nazi Germany yet (although, who knows by this time next year?)

Mind your own business and keep your hateful, nasty comments to yourselves!


Sarah P. Ohio   February 9th, 2009 12:20 am ET

and no im not kate i am a 27 year old wife that has fertility issues and sees a fertility doctor with my husband. also a fan of the gosselins....as if you couldnt tell LOL!

what kind of links did you try to post?? maybe you didnt get the entire link or something was corrupt with it? like a virus or something?.....i was able to post an email address in a blog earlier....


Sarah P. Ohio   February 9th, 2009 12:22 am ET

right on eileen!!!


Debra   February 9th, 2009 12:58 am ET

Your fertility issues led you to an the inspirational speakings of the Gosselins...I get that. You say you aren't looking for sympathy but you go on and on about. You said about yourself...."I am long winded and delusional". That is why I asked you to finally put a sock in it.. God will provide.

My link was an article (opposite of your account about family support etc.) in The Enquirer by Sarah Cordes 7/28/08/.

You defend the Gosselins..great, some of us DO NOT!!


mary   February 9th, 2009 1:31 am ET

I love Jon and Kate plus 8! I think it is a very honest show,and when they tried to have one more they had 6 they are very grateful for all they have got. I think the one who now has 14 was trying for multiples and I really think she deserves nothing donated to her she is a single mom who has not worked due to work injury? I think she is looking for others to pay for her kids and you know I am a single mom and have four in 12 years my oldest was in high school when I got a divorce and kids need love and to know your there for them and there is no way a single mom can be there for all of them just not enough time in day, and you know most single moms have to work to support there family and she should have to also.. when Jon and Kate opened there home to us it was original and now there are too many show about big family's I also love little people big world but other then that give it a rest already!


Sarah P. Ohio   February 9th, 2009 1:48 am ET

yeah i know some of you dont support the gosselins....i get it...i didnt tell anyone to "put a sock in it"...actually i like to read what others post and how they feel about things. everyone one has an opinion.

maybe it wouldnt let you post because it was an article from the enquirer....the tabloid????????


Brenda   February 9th, 2009 2:37 pm ET

You're welcome fxfanatic. I'm thinking maybe the blog needs to be turned over to Sarah P. and Missy. I've never seen so much drivel posted in my life. It's like banging your head against the wall to try and make these sheeple understand the damage being done to these children. Honestly, anyone in their right mind can see what a scam the Kons are. Very frustrating to think ppl. are still conned by them.


Missy   February 10th, 2009 9:42 pm ET

Brenda, what are you talking about, why call me a sheeple? I am not defending any of them, I think you are off your rocker, wow you must not be reading the right comments for the right ppl.

and michelle, you said not all the men on the ship were hurt? well dear one was too many, if it had been your family member would you day it like that? I doubt it.


Dodie from Irvine, CA   February 10th, 2009 10:16 pm ET

Having huge families is a thing of the past. 2,000 years ago the population was not 6.80 billion According to Wikipedia, As of March 2009, the world's population is estimated to be about 680000000000.

Each person on this planet takes from the planet. American babies being the worst, by taking the most from our planet.

Diaper Statistics: An estimated 18 billion single-use diapers are thrown in landfills each year, taking as many as 500 years to decompose, and commonly contain raw, untreated sewage. Disposable diapers make up the third largest source of solid waste in landfills, after newspapers and food and beverage containers9. It takes upwards of 82,000 tons of plastic and 1.3 million tons of wood pulp, or a quarter-million trees, to manufacture the disposable diapers.

The only good about disposable diapers is that there is strong evidence that these diapers lead to adult male infertility. So keep using the disposable diapers and maybe, if luck is with us, we will start to decrease our population.


michelle   February 11th, 2009 9:09 am ET

your just a war monger missy now shut it.... and ppl enough with this blog.. its getting old now ... seriously ... yes ppl are jealeous because other people.. other than themselves, are making money ... who gives a crap. Mind your own business and shut it... go blog about useful things that people might actually be interested not jon and kates house or kids or anything to do with them, or the women with 14 kids .. who cares ... mind your own business


Constantine   February 11th, 2009 11:03 am ET

Shut-up Michelle. I believe the whole thing ppl. are complaining about isn't that the Gosselins have money, it's that they lie and keep their hand out to the ppl. who continually fill it with money or stuff. The ppl. who honestly need help themselves. The biggest problem ppl. have with the Kon's is that their children have no privacy and are being harmed so they can continue to get richer, and richer. Blows my hair back to see that the followers are so blinded.

Oh and as far as the link to the Christian site, seems to me there are more mean things about Kate than good.


Missy   February 11th, 2009 11:13 am ET

Michelle, you are one very dis-turbed woman, filled with hate and meaness, you say enough with this blog, well then why are you still contributing to it? b/c you are lacking in adult conversation ? b/c you can not carry on a decent debate face to face with another person? b/c you are afraid of being left alone, what are your reasons dear? b/c I am sure there must be many,
You should be ashamed of your self on here calling ppl names and all b/c you could not as an adult understand what was being said, not just by me but by most of the ppl on here,
So why don't you just back up and "SHUT UP?"


Missy   February 12th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

Your right Michelle, this is not face to face, thats what I'm saying, you have to come here b/c you are not adult enough to face anyone in the flesh and carry on a debate, you could not hold your own, espically with your mean hateful attitude,and you have no idea what you are even talking about, You sure can call names tho, but... most school yard bullies in 3rd grade can.


vkire   February 13th, 2009 12:56 am ET

I watched a recent detailed interview with Jon Gosselin where he was very open about how their finances have changed drastically since the show. They now have a company or companies (can't recall exactly) set up to continue hauling in $$ because of the sextuplets. As he and Kate both have said "the show is our life and our life is the show".

She is the 'working woman' now...he stays home with the kids. She travels for the tv interviews, $25,000.00 speaking engagements, book signings, business meetings in New York while he's at home. He said that she's much more relaxed now that she's not home with the kids all the time.

I find it so ironic that she comes across as a downtrodden mom of 8 when she's now rarely at home...definitely not struggling financially, paying P.R. people and others so that their sextuplet business runs smoothly!

Kate is certainly a contributor to this problem, not part of the solution....I bet one could guarantee that this new mom of 8 wouldn't have gone through with this if she didn't have lifestyles like Jon and Kate's to aspire to! After all...they became millionaires from having sextuplets....

You know...it's not that different from the Dionne Quints of many years ago. Sadly, each grew into a woman who in her own way was tortured by her past. I do pray for all of these children. Hopefully they'll be off the t.v. soon.


Beverli   February 13th, 2009 9:44 am ET

I used to, I say, "used to" watch Jon and Kate plus 8. It is really sad to see parents who seem like intelligent people use thier multiple births to make money and live off the generosity of corporate sponsors, gifts, donations etc. AND, if Kate wanted a nice body, (belly) I guess she soulnd' t have had more children. :)
The last show I watched was when they moved into thier new amazing home! Holy cow! All Kate could do was complain about how dirty and gross the fridge was and how she had to spend hours cleaning it.
Please, people! Get a grip! I wish that was the only problem families had these days......why in heaven's name are these people PAID to do this. It's just wrong and greed on thier part. I feel sorry for the kids.


Missy   February 13th, 2009 2:24 pm ET

Beverli, I could guarantee Kate did not have to clean that whole house, they had a cleaning sevice come in , and she did not clean the one she left behind, you can clearly see in the real estate pictures that the ktn, has trash every where, even a little table and chair set left upstairs in the bed room, The kids will get all new I'm sure.
Kate is not home long enough to clean, and Jon poor guy is clueless of what to do.
They said themselves what we are seeing (some of what we thought was still in the old house) was not, they actually moved long before we saw it on the show,I am sure by now that the Mansion is completely decorated and furnished,
One more thing, J&K will have money coming in even after the show ends, lots of money, you can count on that.This show of Kates has set them up for life, but was it worth all the trash that has been said about them?, do they think God is really proud of them?
I wonder if they really believe this was Gods plan for their kids? I guess we can all justify any wrong doing that we do as long as we are getting what we want, no matter about the kids or God. So Sad.


Ckelly   February 13th, 2009 10:49 pm ET

This is a question of medical ethic's and community morality...

In Canada abortion procedures and after care is free to any female over 14 years- but a woman with fertility issues (legitimate medical problems) is forced to pay ten's of thousands of dollars for treatment to be normal????????...

Large families were the norm when I was growing up in a blue collared Catholic community. But, it was more the norm amoung wealthy Catholic families which had 10-12 children. My parent's married late in order to avoid more than two or three ( they married in their late 30's and 40's)

So it is about economics...before medical care was developed many children died in childbirth or from early childhood illness and farms were successful with larger families. Therefore more children.

Today we don't need 5, 10 or 14 kids to be happy-we need community. But our REAL communities are smaller and less concerned. It does take a village to raise children. However, now we protect our children from the village out of fear.

My mother refused to leave my father and be a single mother on welfare-she wanted too. For better or worse, in the end , it has worked for everyone. Science, TV, FAME, selfishness and welfare benefits are diseases of the 21st century and as recent psychological studies of university youth suggests-these parental decisions are corrupting our youth. Personaility disordered young adults are becoming the norm.

Vanity!!!

People should work as parents to make healthy, wise, informed decisions about giving birth and raising a family. Lets take the celebrities out of the mix as well as the tv and the drama.

Communities need to rise to the occasion and help raise our furture-not with handouts- but with genuine interest, caring and wisdom of age. Being a single mother isn't cool and being a single mother with 6 , 8 or 14 kids isn't cool either. Being parents with two sets of multiples that make it impossible to provide for their children without a TV show, isn't cool either.


Xeres   February 15th, 2009 11:41 am ET

Seeing many aiming at a shot for fame, getting multiplets seems the hardest road possible. I'm not favoring anyone getting IVF, I think it's arrogant to begin with.
Stil, the kids are here, needing clothes, roof, food and warmth. Warmth by sun, generator and of us humans. So get famous, for all I care for, I can't think of a better reason to be.
I just wondered where are the multiplets are after the cameras lose interest, are they still well, happy and healthy?


jamie   February 16th, 2009 10:54 pm ET

Kate, you were quoted in the Reading Eagle Newspaper in 2005 as saying “society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births”, do you think society should help raise the octuplets. Why did you pay 1.3 millon for you new home? the kids get what money? you make 100 thousamd per episode.


Judy   February 18th, 2009 7:03 pm ET

Folks, you are providing a home and a LIFE for your beautiful children...to heck with the rest who have not lived yoiur life...by the way the camp out is a treasure to remember .. :) When I did it with my 4 sons in '98, we ALL still remember feeling the train on the ground, coming into the valley before any of us heard it :)))
My sons are grown now but stil smile at this memory~~~God bless you all J


DAVINA SHIELDS   February 19th, 2009 11:35 pm ET

DO THE GOSSELINS TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FORTHE"IDEA" THAT YOU COULD MAKE MONEY OFF YOUR CHILDREN? I BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE NOW SEEING THE GOSSELINS FOR WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT. WHEN I WATCHED THE VERY FIRST EPISODE, WHERE KATE STAYED IN BED TILL 8:30 BECAUSE SHE JUST CAN'T COPE UNTIL THEN AND A CUP OF COFFEE, I WAS SHOCKED!! SHE THEN SCREAMED IN HORROR BECAUSE ONE OF HER BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRLS HAD FECES ALL OVER HER!!(SHE HAD PROBABLY BEEN LAYING IN IT SINCE SHE AWOKE A COUPLE HOURS EARLIER.) THE LOOK ON THAT CHILDS FACE AND ALL THE OTHERS SHOOK ME TO THE CORE. I THOUGHT PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY UPSET. WELL I THINK THEY WERE BUT THE CURIOSITY GOT THE BETTER OF THEM AND NOW PEOPLE JUST LOVE ALL THE FIGHTING AND SCREAMING! PEOPLE NOW ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THEY ARE ASKING FOR THOSE FREEBIES AND BOY HAVE THEY RECEIVED ALOT! THEY ARE TRULY EXPLOITING THEIR CHILDREN FOR EVERY THING THEY CAN GET AND THEY ADMIT IT. "IF NOT FOR THE CHILDREN WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS" READING THE BLOGS ON J&K PLUS 8 THE CHILDREN ARE SUFFERING BY THE WAY PEOPLE ARE VIEWING THEM NOW. I WOULD NOT REPEAT MOST OF THE THINGS I HAVE READ BUT TO PUT IT AS KINDLY AS I CAN SOME OF THEIR CHILDREN ARE TURNING OUT LIKE KATE! CHILDREN PROTECTIVE SERVICES SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT TO SEE THEM BEFORE NOW! SHOCKED TO SEE THEY BOTH HAD TO GO TO L.A. FOR JOHNS HAIR TRANSPLANT FOR THE SHOW OF COURSE, NO CONCERN FOR THEIR 8 CHILDREN AT HOME VERY SICK WITH THE FLU, NO CONCERN THEY LEFT THEM WITH KATES SISTER IN-LAW WHOM HAD 4 CHILDREN SICK ALSO!! NOW WE ALL KNOW KATE DOES NOT EVEN WATCH THOSE 4 CHILDREN SICK OR NOT!! KATE HAS BECOME SUCH A DIVA, SHE GETS HER HAIR DONE, NAILS SPA DAYS, I AM A MOTHER AND MY CHILDREN COME BEFORE I DO. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY NAMES ON A PETITION WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE GOSSELINS BEFORE THEIR CHILDREN ARE HURT MORE THAN THEY ARE NOW! A REALLY CONCERNED MOM!!


Judy   February 20th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

I just wonder if parents who use IVF or IUI realize that a child is a gift given to us by God not a commodity which may be produced. Gifts are not meant to be taken and that is what is happening when one uses a third party to achieve what you think you have a right to. We do not have a right to have a child like we have a right to vote. Children are a privilege and are entrusted to us by God. As soon as a couple removes the marital act, they are making the doctor the God thereby denying the new life dignity.


Tim   February 23rd, 2009 10:18 am ET

Jon and Kate have more issues in their family that is sugar coated by TLC. Katie refuses to allow anyone in her family, including her sister-in-law, to receive any kudos or recognition. They live by virture of hand-outs. Who will give, pay, donate to their cause...of deciving the public for their own capital gain. In the day and age we live in the viewers of J/K +8 will no doubt realize that they are living better than most just because they have a large family. A 54 acre property with a nearly 6K sq foot home, pool, barns, etc is NOT REALITY! The show provides caretakers, chef and other perks just to keep Kate happy. Jon is along for the ride for fear that Kate will belittle him even further in the public eye. In the years ahead we will most likely hear of a family who were once famous for having 8 children who now have damaged children who can't cope with reality and will suffer for years to come. The mansion will be sold the family will disappear and need their extended family.

More people need to contact TLC and express their view and concern for these 8 children who don't have a chance for reality with the way their mother exploits them...and her husband...on National TV.

Signed:
A father of multiples


randi   February 24th, 2009 2:22 am ET

I don't see how kate, can give adivce against. there show would encourage people to do this, look she had two and the six, the are precious kids. but all they get it free stuff, i don't watch anymore who what to see the dentist trip. she doesn't need much help now that there older, so she kick aunt Judy to the side. I think she's a snob now.


Cole   February 24th, 2009 5:39 pm ET

I used to love watching Jon and Kate plus 8 when the children were little. They were struggling to provide for the family just like us. But now all Jon and Kate doing is taking free trips, free clothes, etc. They don't even seem embarassed to take all the freebies in front of their children. Do TLC and J/K really believe that this is a good example of a normal family? No wonder Octo mom also wanted this kind of life style. And, I can't believe Kate was invited to the show to give Octo mom advice. I am very concerned for Kate's children, especially for Mady and Cara. They don't seem very happy. Jon and Kate need to know that giving their children a million dollar home, free clothes, and free trips do not make them happy and well adjusted human beings.


Stephen ohio   February 26th, 2009 6:03 pm ET

KATE THE GIG IS UP Jon you need to run and fast Kate is using the kids for money nothing less nothing more she needs to see a shrink,really the poor kids are being used family servces here is needed.MONEY MONEY MONEY KATE we know all about you and the type of person you are ask around in PA let the truth be told Kate give it up really.


please   February 28th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

Kate,

please pay some attention to your kids. My heart breaks for Maddy. She is so sensitive and overwhelmed by all the cameras and trips and your barking. How humiliating it must be for a 8-year old to be constantly disciplined on national TV, to show your degraded teeth to millions of people (including your friends), to be yelled at by the babysitter and chased upstairs (she even clapped her hands for emphasis). It must be so tough and we can see how badly Maddy is taking it all. As children, they cannot make decisions, you as a parent must make decisions best for your kids. Give them some peace and privacy before it's too late. What will you answer when they grow up and ask you, why is my pottytraining, butt wiping, bare butt on national TV?

Priorities, Kate, priorities?


Shannon   March 1st, 2009 9:43 am ET

I love Kate! SHe is a wonderful mother to her 8 children. You people who bash the Gosselins are wrong, and if you compare her to Nadya Suleman it's even worse! They don't even compare! TO begin with, Kate did nto get eggs implanted in her like Nadya did. And while yes, Jon and Kate have made a lot of money from their show, I don't think it's fair to say that they are 'using their children." In my opinion, for kate to do the show and have all of those itnerviews – that IS a job! don't be mad because she makes money off of it. It's not like Jon or Kate lived in poverty before they had multiples or didn't hold jobs! They both had great jobs! In my opinion they work hard for their money, they take care of their children, and they spend time with each of their children (each have a special day by themselves to go wherever they want). Yes, they just bought a new, expensive home, but they worked for the money doing the show and Jon being an I.T. They might accept donations (not positive) but who cares if people want to give to them? They still work to have what they have – a happy, healthy family! Take care Jon and Kate!


Candice   March 6th, 2009 6:46 pm ET

I found this on Jon & Kates website in the Q & A section. I thought that for those of you having a hard time finding the difference in situations with the octomom and Kate...

"Just wondering if the fertility treatment you used was IUI. We went through the same and also IVF but were unsuccessful. Thanks.

Yes, we used IUI, which is very different from IVF. IUI is intrauterine insemination where you take meds, are monitored via ultrasound and then your husband’s contribution is placed via catheter. There are no eggs “removed” or “put back” as with IVF. So, we were truly unaware that there were 7 possible babies in there on the day that our procedure was done…or I can assure you, we would not have gone through with it!! (We were told that there were 3 with a possibility of 4 which was, by my doctor, considered excellent to proceed.)"

oh and not to mention Kate is married and was married before the 2 sets were born. If they got a t.v. show good for them. 14 kids, single with no career...so not the same.


Nurse Riverboat   March 8th, 2009 1:04 am ET

People are FEE-ur-ious about the Octomom and the tentacles of our anger will be life-long. This Nadya Suleman is very much in denial, she thinks she can continue her lies, half-truths, and shennanigans to raise millions of dollars – but Child Protective Services record her words and behavior. She will NOT bring these octuplets home – mark my words. I don't know if they'll be placed in foster homes, but what they need is to be placed in permanent, loving homes with both a mother and a father. Not gay parents, not single parents, just a normal family. LOVE is all any child needs....not a multimillion dollar house or a multimillion dollar TV show that exploits every moment of their lives. As soon as we the VIEWERS turn this nonsense OFF, the nonsense of Octomom and her perverted obsessions will phase out. She will return to her nobodyness and nobody will miss her and her calamity. Some people are born to create chaos, confusion and calamity – some people aren't made to do a thing in this life. And I say that is true for the insanity of Nadya Suleman and her parents and her very unfortunate children, who will do vastly better the instant they are adopted away from her influence and corruption.
We have the right to hate loosers like her, we are hard working people and most of us pay for our own children and our own lives. We have the right to object when the media rubs immorality and unethical behavioour in our noses.
So, keep speaking out, America!
VOICE your outrage to train-wrecks like Nadya Suleman and her ilk.


Maudie   March 9th, 2009 7:31 am ET

Wow Larry,
You invite two families on your show to talk about multiples and large families and they get attacked. No wonder we are in the shape we're in in this country, look how much hate that's out there. No family is perfect, no relationship is perfact, for instance some soldiers who are over there fighting for the right of other to live free and happy in a foreign country. Just happen to be women, now if they were to read some of these post, they would feel guilty because they had to leave their husband at home carrying for the children. Kate and Jon did not ask for multiples they only wanted one. They cried when they found out how many babies they were having, they felt guilty because of what it would mean for the twins. TLC came to them and ask them to do the show, now I think they would have been crazy to turn down that income. People it's a income just like to make when you do work. They did not have babies to make money, they make money because God had blessed them with babies. Now Kate never denies that she is OSD, and I hate the way she treats Jon too, and he tells her that now if he would hall off and slap her upside the head you would complain about that too.

If i was her I would move as far away from you haters too. Every where she goes with a blog available some one brings up that Reader News article. Yes if you really watch the show you would know that they do go to church and she thanks God for her good fortures. They give back to charities. So since I have gotten so angry reading all the negative comments and name calling I must go now. But remember God sees and hears all.


Jeanne   April 14th, 2009 9:50 am ET

I completely agree with many of the comments regarding Kate's hateful behavior toward her husband. She should be down on her knees thanking him for all of his help with all those (unplanned) kids!!
Nothing seems to satisfy her or make her happy! And for god's sake – DO something with Cara! Maybe a spanking???? Her behavior is completely unaccepatble for a child! How embarrassing to be on TV and have to watch your child act this way! I wouldn't trade places with Kate for ANY amount of money!


patricia mcgovern   April 26th, 2009 12:09 am ET

larry,
i watch every episode of the gosselins....i love the show. kate and jon are wonderful parents and the kids are too adorable. boy will it be fun for the family when there all older and have kids of there own and there all together at holdiays, etc. like the lawrence welk family, or the osmonds.
anyhow, i have just one question? does jon have a brother? lol... he has so much patience and lets kate rule the rosute..
can't wait to see there interview.


Twyla   April 28th, 2009 10:06 pm ET

I watch Jon & Kate very often and love the show!!! I am sick of people criticizing this family. They are raising remarkable children. Those kids are way more behaved than most of the children i see at the parks when i am with my own children. People don't seem to get it. You have to discipline your kids because their future depends on it. If you let them get away with things today it with keep happening and then you have an unruly teenager that doesn't respect your authority. Now imagine have six kids all the same age!!! it's even more important that you stick to your guns and they have done a great job with it. With all the peer pressures around today you have to keep your kids in check. I had trouble when my son turned the "terrible 2" but to have sick go through that transition at once. It puts alot of stress on the family. So what if Kate yells at jon from time to time. What they are going through is not easy. And don't tell me that all the people complaining about Kate's attitude don't ever yell at their spouse now add on an extra 6 or seven kids into the mix. They have openly discussed their arguments which they didn't have to. You have to relieve stress by yelling or it will just pile up into a ball of anger that will be far worse than yelling one single comment. All parents argue. Of course there are different ways to handle it but when you have 8 kids it's much harder to find a time and place to do it because there is a schedule to follow and they are constantly on the move enrich their childrens lives with activities. They should have the bigger house they earned it from years or compromising their privacy. They did the show to be able to have money for their children to enrich their lives. GOOD FOR THEM. How many parents have money and having their kids dressed like crap, and look like crap?????? At least they are using the money for their children. That's what counts. Kate is never over dressed with a Fendi, Gucci or Louis Vitton bag and all decked out in designer clothes. The whole family is always dressed nice within reason not wasting money on materialistic things. I commend Jon & Kate for what they are accomplishing and all the things they get to experience with their children and best wishes for the future.


Jenet Hamilton   May 7th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I am really looking forward to watching Kate tonight. For all you folks who are jealous of the show, the family – get over it. What horrible remarks that are being made about the money they are making. So what... they have cameras in their faces, in their lives so much. Do you think that actors work for free? Why should real people work for free? Duh. I have no children and if I lived closer I would volunteer to help out. Kate & Jon are doing what they can, the best way then can. They are fair with each child and have as much fun as they can when they can. Isn't that what life is about? The children are experiencing so many wonder times.

Kate: I think you and Jon are doing a wonderful thing with the show, I watch it every week, and I am looking forward to some new shows, I am watching many reruns. Yes some children have difficulties, keeps you on your toes! Yes somethings bother me when watching, but nothing is perfect.

Twyla the comment before mine says it all.


Kat   May 8th, 2009 12:33 am ET

I find it heartbreaking how rude and unempathetic people can be. If John and Kate were suffering more, lived in a run down home, and were miserable, would that please more of you? What is wrong this world?
They have not stolen anything that they have, they are smart enough to capitalize on the situation that HAPPENED TO THEM, make the best of it, and used it to provide a better life for their family. They don't go off and leave the children when they go on these vacations, they take their children on trips that they would otherwise never be able to afford. People who are envious or angry at these people for living and being seen on TV, find something else to do. Try looking inside of yourselves as a beginning.


Alicia   May 8th, 2009 1:28 am ET

I'm sure by now you are getting tired of reading all the comments about your life from people you don't know, giving opinions to you about a life they cant pretend to know anything about, so here's one more. I'm not going to say anything negative but only focus on the positives. 1st you are so extremely brave for letting the world into your private lives.I'm sure you didn't make that decision without a lot of thought and weighing of the bennifits you could receive by doing so. And you only saw that in the situation you were in, it would only make your life easier in the long run.Why cant people see that ? Because they are not in your shoes. They are jealous of your fame and the money you get but they don't see that without that money your life would be 20 times harder. You just cant raise 8 kids or more on a regular persons salary. You did it as you always say (for the kids) no one in their right mind would do it for any other reason.And there are other large families who are doing shows too for the same reason. Thank heavens that the world is curious enough to know how you live and make it work on a daily basis, or there would be no show. Its too bad that those same people cant keep their noses out of your business and just be sympithetic to you about the hard things that you have to endure (such as Gossip) to keep your show and dreams for you childrens lives alive. Shame on all of you who judge when you have not lived one minute in their shoes!! And as far as Kate goes thank God she is a little OCD that is the glue to making it all work! God does not give you challenges you can't do. And as far as Jon goes he is 20 times more involved than lots of dads and thats not really a natural trait of men but he does show he loves his wife and kids by getting involved, most of us would love to be that lucky. Stress can cause us all to loose our minds for a while but you must remember that in that time of weekness when we are at our worst we all would be horified to be held accountable for our mistakes, but i know we all would be fortunate to have people we love forgive us and know that we all are not perfect people. GOD BLESS YOU Jon and Kate, you are wonderful people.


jesse piper   May 8th, 2009 3:19 am ET

I am amazed at how Kate is handling this. I believe it is just another gold digging effort-no matter what-she wants the money. There are reported receipts of gifts to the girl and town people who witnessed the bad behavior. I am also so disappointed in the "product" sells she gives on the show to get free stuff-as if they are not being paid enough. If she was out of town at a book signing, why wasn't he home? If she was home, why was her husband out til 2 am? So far, they have received more free products and services than necessary to "afford" their children. Free tummy tuck, spray tans, clothes, hair stylist, teeth whitening, John Deere mower, Hair transplant.........etc!!! Yes TLC, this is a great show about a family with multiples struggling to raise the children!! TLC is just as guilty


Sharon   May 8th, 2009 10:08 pm ET

Im so proud of Kate she is doing whats right for her family she is a very strong classy lady and so what if she chooses not to have her own family around her thats her choice and her business. All of you people that are so judgemental should be ashamed of yourselves no one is perfect. She is in damage control mode if you really look at her you can see the worry on her face but please dont be angry with her for trying to do whats right by her family. Whether he played around or not thats not our business and so what if she is bossy he married her.

Good on you Kate you carry on doing what you think is right....Take care


Cole   May 9th, 2009 5:45 pm ET

I once thought Jon and Kate were doing their best with the children and I was their fan. I loved their shows, I watched them since the beginning. But now the truth is out! Jon and Kate do not care about their children. They only care about how much money they can make with their children. Kate is busy working and rarely at home. Jon is bored and complaining that he has to stay home with the children. He bought a condo in Utah and a new sports car, thanks to his children. What kind of a married man is a "friend" with a 23 year old young girl he met at the bar? Please, even if Jon did not have sex with this girl, it is very inapppropriate for any married man to hang out with 23 year old girl when the wife is away. I watched Kate's interview. Larry should have asked "have you met this other woman?" "did you know Jon was bringing this woman to your house?" "have your kids met her?" I'm sure Kate is very upset and humiliated. She says she wants to deal with this matter privately, yet she comes on TV to sell her books. Hypocrite! If Jon and Kate want to keep things private, they need to end the show now to spend private time together and to focus on the children. Those poor kids, this is their parents' legacy. Very soon the older girls will find out about their father's inappropriate affairs. Kate said the girls go to a small private school and that the parents there do not care about this recent scandal. Oh please, is she crazy? The kids can be very mean, wake up Kate. Jon and Kate, please think of your kids and stop the show now please.


Kym Brown   May 10th, 2009 7:07 pm ET

I am disgusted at the jealousy I am reading here. People need to stop being so jealous and worry about their OWN families. Jon & Kate have chosen to do this program NOT for the perks like tummy tucks and hair transplants, but for the opportunities that have been given to them. You cannot fault their family for other people offering to do nice things for their family. If people want to give them things, so WHAT? The focus is the children. I am reading how people are saying the kids look sad, etc in some shows... You show me a kid that ISN'T! I know with myself, my kids have their days... why is it not OK for their kids to have them too? I think they are doing a great job for their family. As far as the infidelity questions going on... BACK OFF and allow this family to go through this issue alone and without everyone's influence. Married men are allowed to have friends that are single, younger, etc. It's up to that man's integrity and I believe there was nothing done but because of their "celebrity" this has been shined upon as a big no-no. Give me a break. Back the heck off of their family and allow them to live their lives. I pray that they continue to grow and love eachother and continue with the blessings that they are to those children. Kate, stand by your man. Jon, stand by your wife. And most of all, stand in protection of your children. God Bless you all.


Melissa H   May 11th, 2009 11:25 am ET

I think everyone is forgetting that with these trip that the Gosselin's take, that they are INVITATIONS for them to come there. Two for the price of one, the Gosselins get a trip and the place that invited them gets free press, advertisement, etc.
Gosselins are different from the Octo mom. They went to try for ONE more, not intentionally getting pregnant with multiples, other having INVITRO runs that chance since they do implant more than one egg since the chances of surviving are slim. The Octo mom deliberately went and had multiples implanted.


Jordan   May 14th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

Why do you people even care what the Gosselin's do with their money or lives? If you had your own TV show, I'm sure that you'd accept the benefits that came along with it. The Gosselins are not selfish with it either; it is known that they donate some and support charities. So they bought a new house? Who cares! They are free to spend their EARNED money from having a TV show (like famous actors) on whatever they please. Half of what they were given they never asked for; Kate was approached by a willing doctor to have a tummy tuck. She knows better than to spend money on frivolous things for her own benefit!

Why don't you find something better to do, such as wondering why professional athletics make millions, or why politicians are paid way too much?

Find something better to talk about instead of ruining a family that just likes having their memories taped for us to enjoy.

God bless Kate and family, keep your head high like you have been!


Tammy   August 25th, 2009 9:21 pm ET

Kate I support you and your kids during this time. I starting watching your show over a year ago and I have enjoyed your show very much. I want you to know that you are in my thoughts and in my prayers, I know you have a great deal of faith and I know that your faith will get you thou. I very much admire your strengths and you ability to look for the postives because it is much easier to see the negatives of life. God Bless you and kept you and your kids safe.


DAVINA   September 5th, 2009 2:20 am ET

I find it disgusting how Kate seems to be a better mother now, lolol Kate you are not fooling anyone!!! You just want to keep the money coming! I am so sad that jon is not raising them all the time. I can promise you that these children will be messed up for life, pat yourself on the back for this Kate!!


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